Time Nick Message 00:00 NekoGloop :) 00:00 Obiewan1111 Are you being serious? 00:00 NekoGloop why yes, yes i am good sir. 00:00 Obiewan1111 I grant that they did make the first all in one computer. 00:00 marktraceur Kacey: Chuck Norris doesn't run into anything, things run into Chuck Norris' fists. 00:00 Kacey who is the guy who owns virgin mobile? 00:00 Obiewan1111 Err.. 00:00 NekoGloop Kacey: the guy who hasnt fucked up his phone 00:00 marktraceur Kacey: Richard Branson 00:00 ADFENO Hahahaha marktraceur. 00:01 NekoGloop cwhutididthar. 00:01 Obiewan1111 They call Steve Jobs a legend, but he's far from it. 00:01 Obiewan1111 I'm more of a legend, than that idea stealing bitch. 00:01 Kacey good thing they didnt name him blow lol 00:02 NekoGloop woulda been more fitting 00:02 * marktraceur took a second of "Why? Blow Branson isn't all that offensive" before figuring out the order of that conversation 00:02 Kacey i broke moltenbot lol 00:02 NekoGloop moltenbot IS broken ; 00:02 Obiewan1111 Who's moltenbot. 00:02 NekoGloop ;) 00:02 Obiewan1111 ?* 00:03 marktraceur http://fsf.org 00:03 NekoGloop moltenbot ignores IPv6 :P 00:03 marktraceur Yup, broked. 00:03 Obiewan1111 hahgay.com 00:03 Obiewan1111 www.hahgay.com 00:03 marktraceur http://no-www.org 00:03 moltenbot marktraceur's link: www. is deprecated. 00:03 marktraceur Sweet. 00:03 Kacey lol i did !joke to many times 00:04 Obiewan1111 http://moltenbot sucks.com 00:04 NekoGloop !burp 00:04 marktraceur Wonder why it didn't pick up http://fsf.org 00:04 Obiewan1111 http://Let'splayagamemoltenbotnamethisurl.com 00:04 Obiewan1111 I win. 00:05 marktraceur I'm pretty sure that single quotes aren't allowed in domain names 00:05 jojoa1997 is anyone good with coding with privs 00:05 Kacey ? 00:05 Obiewan1111 Idc. 00:05 Obiewan1111 Idc. 00:06 Kacey "A study showed the leading causes of death in the United States are: 1. Heart disease, 2. Kacey , 3. Cancer" 00:06 jojoa1997 Idc.? 00:06 Obiewan1111 Lulwhut? Double post. 00:06 NakedFury I dont care 00:06 NakedFury i d c 00:06 jojoa1997 whats that mean 00:06 Obiewan1111 Idc=I don't care. 00:06 jojoa1997 oh 00:06 NekoGloop idc= i dont crap 00:06 NakedFury idgc more rude 00:07 NekoGloop https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commit/9e23e9ecbf351cbd7a07a894abca707c91f02a5b :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 00:07 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Wool group ? 9e23e9e ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 00:08 NakedFury wasnt that going to be changed to cotton to be more fitting with the current game state? 00:08 Kacey "A study showed the leading causes of death in the United States are: 1. Heart disease, 2. Kacey , 3. Cancer" haha 00:08 Obiewan1111 "A study showed nothing". 00:09 ADFENO Cotton is more suitable, for me, at least. 00:09 NekoGloop dont know dont care 00:10 NekoGloop it's finally got a fucking group 00:10 ADFENO Wool comes from animals. Cotton can also be used to make strings (idea from Stranded 2) :D 00:10 NekoGloop and my version doesnt have it 00:10 NekoGloop fck 00:13 Obiewan1111 This guy hacks FS2013... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGCtSMQ-aN4&NR=1&feature=endscreen 00:14 Kacey nice 00:14 Kacey !up sourceforge.net 00:14 moltenbot Minetest server sourceforge.net:30000 DOWN 00:14 Kacey lol oops 00:14 Obiewan1111 !down sourceforge.net 00:15 NakedFury what is fs? 00:15 ADFENO "I still prefer Harvest Moon. :D" 00:15 NakedFury I would like harvest moon farming on minetest 00:15 ADFENO FS = file system? 00:15 Kacey tractors 00:15 Kacey FS = farm simulator 00:16 ADFENO Ah, hahaha. 00:16 NakedFury the only game I liked in that series was for playstation 1 00:16 ADFENO I'm being too nerd right now. 00:17 ADFENO I like all of them, but I haven't tested Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life, and beyound. 00:18 Kacey "If, by some incredible space-time paradox, Kacey would ever fight himself, he\'d win. Period." yes i win 00:19 ADFENO Wow. 00:19 Uberi|Away but he'd also lose 00:20 Kacey haha no 00:20 Uberi aw yiss wool groups 00:20 NekoGloop Uberi: a tad late, are ye? 00:21 Kacey "Kacey can compile syntax errors." yes i can 00:21 Uberi :P 00:21 kaeza (22:12:19) NakedFury: I would like harvest moon farming on minetest 00:21 kaeza +1 00:21 NekoGloop s/Kacey/Chuck Norris/ 00:22 Kacey "Kacey can dereference NULL." 00:22 * ADFENO agrees with NakedFury's quote made by kaeza. 00:22 NekoGloop s/Kacey/Chuck Norris/ 00:22 kaeza Kacey: that's why your brain had a core dump :P 00:22 ADFENO :D 00:23 Uberi oh snap 00:23 Kacey omg yesterday i forgot how to read and write 00:23 * NakedFury agrees with ADFEN0 doing a me about kaeza quoting NakedFury 00:23 * NekoGloop agrees with meow 00:23 ADFENO wow. 00:24 Kacey that explains why 00:24 NekoGloop /\ 00:24 NekoGloop pfft 00:24 NekoGloop /\ 00:24 NekoGloop /\ /\ 00:24 NekoGloop triforce. 00:24 * kaeza agreens with NakedFury spamming the channel agreeing with ADFENO doing a me about kaeza quoting NakedFury 00:24 kaeza agrees* 00:24 ADFENO Wow³. 00:25 Kacey hey guys wanna see voltron force? 00:25 kaeza NekoGloop: Power, Wisdow, Courage -- Pick any two :) 00:25 kaeza Wisdom* 00:25 ADFENO Wisdom². 00:25 Uberi well I certainly don't want wisdow, whatever that is 00:25 NekoGloop kaeza: Power so i can kick your ass, Wisdom so i can know how to get the fuck out 00:25 kaeza but you won't have the Courage :) 00:26 NekoGloop That's why i'd run afterward. 00:26 Uberi heheh 00:26 kaeza trollolol 00:26 VanessaE Wisdom and Courage, fuck power. 00:26 Kacey /_\ 00:27 Kacey i cant find it /_\ 00:27 NekoGloop hehe 00:27 NekoGloop counting spaces ftw 00:27 NekoGloop /_\ 00:27 NekoGloop /_\ /_\ 00:27 NekoGloop fck 00:27 NekoGloop /_\ 00:27 NekoGloop /_\ /_\ 00:27 NekoGloop fck 00:28 Kacey failures 00:28 NekoGloop /_\ 00:28 VanessaE (with Wisdom and Courage comes the ability to do things that Power alone would otherwise be needed for, therefor Power is not really that badly needed) 00:28 NekoGloop /_\ /_\ 00:28 Kacey troll 00:28 kaeza △ 00:28 kaeza △ △ 00:28 kaeza beat that :) 00:28 NekoGloop fck 00:28 NekoGloop kaeza: easy 00:28 NekoGloop △ 00:28 NekoGloop △ △ 00:28 kaeza fail 00:28 NekoGloop like actually spacing properly :) 00:28 NekoGloop samewidth fonts ftw 00:28 kaeza hehe 00:29 VanessaE people use IRC with proportional fonts? o.O 00:29 Kacey http://www.duffelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/chucknorris.jpeg i win 00:29 NekoGloop VanessaE: webchat 00:29 ADFENO Wow... I'm seeing triangles... More triangles... Here... There.. On my father's controller, oh... 00:29 ADFENO :D 00:29 VanessaE NekoGloop: meh. 00:29 Kacey i wonder could i play minetest with a 360 controller? 00:29 NekoGloop Kacey: the more pictures i see of chuck norrix, the more i see the similarity between him and Jeb. 00:30 NekoGloop norrix? norris. 00:30 Uberi hey I use proportional fonts 00:30 VanessaE Kacey: with an appropriate key mapper, why not? 00:30 kaeza VanessaE: pidgin 00:30 VanessaE xchat ftw. 00:30 Uberi with pidgin 00:30 NekoGloop webchat ftw 00:30 ADFENO I'm using Pidgin. 00:30 Kacey XChat ftw 00:30 kaeza ftw FTW! 00:30 NekoGloop no installing, no wasting space on my computer 00:30 NekoGloop also not a dime spent. 00:30 VanessaE xchat for linux is free 00:30 VanessaE :) 00:30 Kacey Chuck Norris ftw!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!1one!!!!!!!2!!!! 00:31 kaeza lol 2? 00:31 Uberi also there are free windows builds of xchat 00:31 Kacey 2 yes 00:31 NakedFury kacey use xpadder and you could 00:31 VanessaE Kacey: you fotgot "eleven" :-) 00:31 Uberi and I use pidgin portable 00:31 Kacey xpadder? 00:31 NekoGloop Chuck Norris ftw!!!!!!1!!!111!!!!meow!!! 00:32 kaeza RMS jokes FTW!! 00:32 ADFENO I like Pidgin, but I can't set it to access my SIP address using SIMPLE. Whichi I'll try tomorrow. 00:33 kaeza Uberi: isn't 'xchat' X11-based? 00:33 ADFENO Wow. 00:33 NekoGloop we should add stick, wood, stone, metal groups 00:33 NekoGloop well there is a stone one but what about the others. 00:33 kaeza lolwut 00:33 jojoa1997 what is so special about wool group 00:34 NekoGloop jojoa1997: crafting recipes in mods can use all the wools now 00:34 NekoGloop also getting 16 wools from one is kinda stupid. 00:34 jojoa1997 i am lost when did this happen 00:34 NekoGloop jojoa1997: never 00:34 Uberi kaeza: nope I ran it on windows for a while 00:34 Uberi but it didn't have the features I want 00:35 NekoGloop so he switched to linux to hack it. 00:35 kaeza Linux h4x0rz FTW!! 00:35 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caAGyHayvaY 00:35 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: English Cover?JubyPhonic P?Hide And Seek ???? - YouTube 00:36 kaeza (ad provided by GloopAds) 00:36 kaeza :D 00:36 ADFENO Woow. 00:37 Kacey i need an xpadder-like program for free for linux 00:38 Doc22 xpadder? 00:38 Doc22 wazzat? 00:38 Kacey i want to play minetest on a 360 controller 00:38 Doc22 oh 00:38 kaeza Kacey: qjoypad :) 00:38 Doc22 idk how to help there 00:39 ADFENO Yes, QJoypad. :D 00:39 marktraceur I have had *poor success* with joysticks and minetest 00:39 marktraceur It's just not as exact 00:40 OldCoder Hi 00:40 kaeza hey OldCoder 00:40 marktraceur OldCoder: Evening 00:40 marktraceur Er, TZAG 00:40 OldCoder o/ 00:40 kaeza \o 00:40 NekoGloop ding dong, hurry up I'm waiting~ 00:40 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caAGyHayvaY 00:40 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: English Cover?JubyPhonic P?Hide And Seek ???? - YouTube 00:40 marktraceur /o 00:40 * OldCoder posts a sign that says Lovable Kittens to Good Homes. The kittens gradually disperse to places where they are needed. 00:40 marktraceur NekoGloop: You've posted that link already, can you please keep it to one? 00:40 kaeza /o: command not found 00:41 * VanessaE grabs NekoGloop's kitten generator and pours a few more at OldCoder's feet :D 00:41 marktraceur kaeza: It's a guy scratching his head 00:41 NekoGloop VanessaE: h-hey! 00:41 OldCoder Kitten Generator O_o 00:41 NekoGloop That is a VERY expensive piece of equipment! 00:41 * OldCoder ponders the notion 00:42 * Kacey wants a kitten generator 00:42 OldCoder Whirr! Click! Meow! Whirr! Click! Meow! It is quite a picture 00:42 VanessaE NekoGloop: relax, I grabbed the spare one. you know, the one that only seems to generate siamese and calico? ;-) 00:42 NekoGloop minetest texture pack for minecraft. Is now possible with mese being a crystal. 00:42 NekoGloop not that i would ofc. to me vanilla minetest is crappy as hell 00:43 kaeza where's the code that generates the nyancat? 00:43 Mika_R VanessaE, still working with the home decor? 00:43 VanessaE Mika_R: of course, though there haven't been any updates recently. I've been too busy with regular life 00:43 kaeza hai Mika_R 00:43 marktraceur [o (guy raising hand) ,_o_, (guy directing traffic), (o (guy throwing uppercut), (guy covering his ears) 00:44 NekoGloop kaeza: in mapgen.lua of default mod. 00:44 kaeza marktraceur: (o = guy doing shoryuken (right, right-down, right, punch) 00:44 Uberi heh never noticed the (o 00:44 NekoGloop VanessaE: gasp. wtf is that. 00:45 VanessaE NekoGloop: what, real life? :-) 00:45 Uberi what's a regular life? 00:45 kaeza NekoGloop: thx :) 00:45 VanessaE oh, it's that thing you're supposed to do for a few hours every morning and evening between sleep and (school|work|coding|IRC) 00:45 Kacey libxtst? 00:46 ADFENO Up², down², (left, right)², B, A. Done. :D 00:46 kaeza Konami Code FTW!! 00:46 VanessaE ADFENO: you forgot Start, Select, L1, L1, X, O.... 00:46 kaeza you get 30 lives 00:46 NekoGloop you should try entering that on a few different websites. 00:46 jojoa1997 If necesity == life then life = minetest 00:47 ADFENO :D Actually, I was trying the Konami code. :D 00:47 NekoGloop Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Enter. 00:47 kaeza mommy, where's the L1 key ? 00:47 kaeza :P 00:47 Mika_R hi Kaeza 00:47 VanessaE OI was kidding, I tend to forget some games actually had defined standard codes like that 00:47 Kacey mcfly 00:47 Kacey "hoverboard nlocked" 00:47 Kacey :P 00:47 marktraceur NekoGloop: The weapons cheat from GTASA? 00:47 VanessaE kaeza: shoulder buttons on a standard PSX controller of course :-) 00:47 sapier1 have a look at all new monorail mod now supporting transport carts ... yes it's in "old mods" besides I don't understand why it was moved 00:48 NekoGloop marktraceur: no, the code you press on some websites for some special hidden stuff. 00:48 marktraceur *nod* I got it now 00:48 VanessaE sapier1: you sure? looks like it's in Mod Releases to me... :D 00:48 marktraceur Backscroll is my friend 00:48 kaeza VanessaE: no L1 *key* on a PC keyb :/ 00:48 sapier1 :-) that was quick 00:48 Kacey alt+L+1 00:49 ADFENO Hahaha. 00:49 Mika_R does that konami code work in old sonic? 00:49 VanessaE though as usual I forgot to turn off that STUPID! subject redirect checkbox. 00:49 kaeza Mika_R: Sonic==Sega 00:49 VanessaE celeron55: can you please make that thing default to off? it's too easy to forget 00:49 ADFENO Wow... :D 00:49 kaeza Contra==Konami 00:49 NekoGloop ±ƒ╚TÄeƒ╚±T╖Äe 00:49 kaeza (or Castlevania) 00:50 kaeza ANSI graphic chars FTW!! 00:50 ADFENO Yay... Castlevania. 00:50 Mika_R Kaeza, in old sonic on Sega Genesis was 1 cheat, opened all the levels, never learnt it and last summer i gave the sega to my nephew 00:50 VanessaE sapier1: damn, those are some expensive recipes 00:50 NekoGloop I pressed random buttons on my alt thing 00:50 VanessaE four mese blocks for one lousy pusher? :) 00:50 kaeza oh, right... Windows 00:50 sapier1 :-) 00:50 sapier1 too expensive? 00:50 kaeza we don't have the Alt+num thing on Lin 00:51 NekoGloop Mika_R: some combination of sound test things 00:51 Mika_R VanessaE, how about some corners to the fences? 00:51 * ADFENO agrees with kaeza. 00:51 VanessaE sapier1: they were cheap enough before, but now they're...a little pricey :-) 00:51 VanessaE sapier1: remember, mese blocks are 9x more valuable now :) 00:51 sapier1 its 5 pushers ;-) 00:51 VanessaE Mika_R: eh.. I dunno. I'll think about that 00:51 Mika_R NekoGloop, ? 00:51 NekoGloop Mika_R: to unlock the debug menu, IIRC 00:52 NekoGloop though you need to unlock the sound test first :) 00:52 sapier1 and you do need pusher only at end of track 00:52 NekoGloop which is in this handy dandy tips and tricks codebook 00:52 NekoGloop which is across the room from me 00:52 kaeza Mika_R: BTW the Konami Code works on Capcom games too 00:52 NekoGloop which I'm too lazy to get 00:52 kaeza (at least on Megaman X4/5/6 00:52 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Gl9gPdG2w 00:53 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: [KAITO] Hide and Seek+VSQ [????] - YouTube 00:53 kaeza (ad provided by GloopAds) 00:53 ADFENO Wow. 00:53 NekoGloop (stupid remark provided by kaeza inc. 00:53 jojoa1997 can anyone help i get this error 00:53 jojoa1997 error=bad arguement #1 to 'get_player_privs' (string expected, got nil) 00:53 jojoa1997 for 00:53 jojoa1997 minetest.get_player_privs(name) 00:53 sapier1 is name nil? 00:54 kaeza jojoa1997: post the relevant code 00:54 jojoa1997 how do i get names to be the player privs 00:54 jojoa1997 ok 00:54 VanessaE sapier1: btw, Animals had to be removed. It was killing my server :( 00:54 jojoa1997 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1497774/ 00:55 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 00:55 kaeza jojoa1997: *relevant* code, not *all* 00:55 moltenbot Minetest server 67.162.156.91:30000 UP 00:55 sapier1 :-( do you have any idea what exactly was wrong? 00:55 VanessaE sapier1: that race condition I keep fighting with, it got worse with Animals :( 00:55 VanessaE the EmergeThread race issue. 00:55 NekoGloop the ErMehGerd race issue. 00:55 sapier1 is this same as collision check problem? 00:55 jojoa1997 yes 00:55 jojoa1997 no 00:55 Uberi hasn't the dtime clamping issue been merged already? 00:55 VanessaE sapier1: I don't think so. 00:55 VanessaE Uberi: eh? 00:55 jojoa1997 line 368 00:56 kaeza NekoGloop: mer fervet burg 00:56 jojoa1997 error=bad arguement #1 to 'get_player_privs' (string expected, got nil) 00:56 kaeza jojoa1997: k checking... 00:57 kaeza jojoa1997: where do you get `name' from? 00:57 kaeza I mean, why is it in the global chunk? 00:57 sapier1 Uberi: no wasn't merged 00:57 Kacey sapier1 where do i get monorail rails from on creative? 00:57 kaeza (i.e: outside any function) 00:58 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROdoGff6ovQ 00:58 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Namine Ritsu - Declare War on All VOC@LOID +mp3 - YouTube 00:58 kaeza (ads ...) meh 00:58 jojoa1997 i was trying to get the privs of the players 00:58 VanessaE sapier1: relevant: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-12-21#i_2740418 00:58 sapier1 kacey don't know I haven't done anything to remove them 00:58 VanessaE sapier1: that's the discussion we had in -dev about this issue 00:58 Kacey i got it 00:59 kaeza jojoa1997: the get_player_privs() call must be *inside* a callback function 01:00 kaeza jojoa1997: no PM's please 01:00 jojoa1997 ok 01:00 jojoa1997 ok 01:00 jojoa1997 will it still work wiith what i am trying to do 01:00 Kacey sapier1 you need to replace default:mese with something else from the mese family 01:00 kaeza I don't know where to start.... 01:01 kaeza that code has many things wrongs 01:01 VanessaE Kacey: no he doesn't, it just means his recipes are expensive :-) 01:01 kaeza -a 01:01 kaeza +a-s 01:01 sapier1 vanessae I don't quite remember but you run latest github server am I right? 01:01 Kacey i tried with a mese block and got nothing 01:01 VanessaE sapier1: yup 01:02 VanessaE I update fairly frequently. 01:02 sapier1 does emergethread bug consume all memory too? 01:03 VanessaE I haven't noticed, but it consumes large quantities of CPU, or sometimes just hangs internally without using very much 01:03 VanessaE OldCoder: Updates for my world/game/map/cache are available just now. 01:03 NekoGloop oh god, this giant api function is sooo awesome 01:04 sapier1 ok then it's most likely not same bug ... I wonder why you didn't run into collision handler bug 01:04 VanessaE sapier1: it is possible that I did hit that bug and just didn't realize it. 01:04 Obiewan1111 Good night. 01:04 Obiewan1111 Why did I even fucking stay up. 01:05 Obiewan1111 I get what's that 5 hours of sleep. -.- 01:05 OldCoder VanessaE, O.K. 01:05 Obiewan1111 URGH. 01:05 VanessaE because you can? :-0 01:05 * NekoGloop puts a kitten with a little t-shirt that says "Sleep is for n00bs" on VanessaE's head 01:06 * VanessaE hands the kitten off to OldCoder and pours a bunch more from Neko's kitten generator onto the pile 01:06 NekoGloop *the kitten walks back over to Vanessa and sits at her feet* 01:06 VanessaE aww 01:07 jojoa1997 Player.on_step = function(self, dtime) 01:07 * VanessaE snuggles with it, then sets it back on OldCoder's pile, along with some treats 01:07 NekoGloop also: the kitten generator doesnt go *that* fast. 01:07 jojoa1997 would that work to start off 01:07 VanessaE NekoGloop: you forgot to shut it off earlier, I was just dumping out the collector bin. 01:07 NekoGloop you already did :O 01:08 VanessaE NekoGloop: you keep leaving that on and you're gonna have one HELL of an electric bill next month. 01:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: it runs purely on compressed kalite bars. 01:08 VanessaE oh that's right 01:08 mauvebic entry panels work http://www.zimg.eu/i/3388826269 01:08 VanessaE yeah but the kalite has to come from somewhere, and I don't see any powerplants anywhere nearby :-) 01:09 VanessaE mauvebic: sweet 01:09 VanessaE pull request that sucker :-) 01:10 mauvebic you may need to create a sort of capacitor pump though 01:10 VanessaE storage tank :-) 01:10 VanessaE that's what the intent of those was 01:10 mauvebic that works too lol 01:10 VanessaE as a buffer/capacitor 01:10 VanessaE not unlike the battery boxes in RealBadAngel's technic 01:10 Kacey weeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 01:11 Kacey im riding a monorail cart 01:11 mauvebic anyways, the inakes/pump will now take any liquid from any mod - and the pressure from pump/intake is 100 -1 for each pipe segment 01:11 jojoa1997 kaeza: Player.on_step = function(self, dtime) minetest.get_player_privs(name) 01:11 VanessaE mauvebic: sweetness. 01:11 VanessaE mauvebic: pull request plz. :-) 01:11 VanessaE I must have this. :-) 01:12 mauvebic it might take less time for me to send through ompldr lol 01:12 VanessaE yeah but do that and I'll have to manually merge your changes again 01:12 Kacey sapier1: transport cart crashes server 01:12 sapier1 can you give me the error message? 01:13 Kacey no :( 01:13 sapier1 ? Can't fix it without knowing whats wrong? 01:13 NekoGloop VanessaE: a kalite fabricator hooked up to a particle compressor which sends the compressed kalite into the kitten generator 01:13 Kacey cant find the error 01:14 mauvebic the only thing that changed is the flow logic section and the entry panel node dec (made it 2 instead of 1 node with _empty _loaded) 01:14 mauvebic latest http://ompldr.org/vZ3k3bQ/pipeworks-gangnam_flowlogic.zip 01:14 sapier1 hmm :-/ 01:14 VanessaE mauvebic: got it. 01:15 mauvebic i may have forgotten to comment out some print commands lol 01:15 VanessaE mauvebic: awww man you put it all in one file again :( 01:15 mauvebic but you change those to dbg 01:15 mauvebic ive been working from the same copy 01:15 sapier1 Kacey do you have mesecon installed? 01:16 Kacey yep 01:16 sapier1 probably thats difference I haven't atm I'll try 01:16 VanessaE mauvebic: I can't make sense of this :( 01:17 VanessaE can you please pull from git master and code against that? 01:17 VanessaE (without one-filing everything) 01:18 mauvebic lines 675 to 713 should be in devices.lua 01:18 mauvebic 332 to 513 is the new flow.lua 01:18 mauvebic replaces everything thats there 01:19 VanessaE no it ain't :-) 01:19 VanessaE line 332 is in the middle of the register_node() call for spigots :-) 01:20 Kacey i dont have pumps :( 01:20 mauvebic no ascii art? 01:20 sapier1 hmm it doesn't even start with latest mesecon version 01:21 VanessaE plenty of ascii art, but: 01:21 VanessaE on_construct = function(pos) 01:21 VanessaE local meta = minetest.env:get_meta(pos) 01:21 VanessaE meta:set_int("pipelike",1) 01:21 VanessaE end, 01:21 VanessaE node_box = { type = "fixed", fixed = spigotboxes, }, 01:21 VanessaE selection_box = { type = "fixed", fixed = { -2/16, -6/16, -2/16, 2/16, 2/16, 8/16 } } 01:21 VanessaE that "end" is line 332. 01:21 mauvebic weird me its on 641 01:22 klunk tchao :-) 01:22 mauvebic wrong one 01:22 VanessaE mauvebic: refactor your code against pipeworks git master and pull request it 01:22 VanessaE this is gonna get too complicated otherwise. 01:23 sapier1 great ... is there a way to do one version that supports both mese and non mese? 01:25 VanessaE sapier1: check whether mese crystals are registered..um, hold a sec 01:25 VanessaE where the hell did I put that code 01:25 kaeza VanessaE: can you craft MESE crystals back from shards? 01:26 kaeza s/shards/fragments/ 01:26 VanessaE if minetest.registered_nodes["default:mese_crystal"] == nil then [so stuff that doesn't use crystals] else [do stuff that does] end 01:26 VanessaE kaeza: no, because when you craft them, you're actually shattering the crystal. 01:26 kaeza k 01:26 sapier1 hmm not quite sur if this is what i was looking for but I'll try 01:26 VanessaE s/so stuff/do stuff/ 01:27 VanessaE sapier1: or, you could just register a new craft using crystals and just blithely leave it there - it's harmless to old MT versions. 01:27 Kacey how do i turn on a pump? 01:27 VanessaE Kacey: punch it. 01:27 Kacey it dissapears when i do that 01:28 VanessaE Kacey: O.O 01:28 VanessaE disappears!? 01:28 leo_rockway so much violence... I'd disappear too if somebody tried to punch me. 01:28 Kacey maybe mesecons could be applied for the power 01:28 ADFENO I must go now, it's 11:30 PM here. 01:28 leo_rockway Kacey: idk what you're talking about, but I like technic for power and mesecons for logic. 01:29 ADFENO Bye everybody. 01:29 VanessaE night ADFENO 01:29 leo_rockway bye, ADFENO 01:29 sapier1 that's not my problem my problem atm is that i need to add mesecon info to my node definition ... which will fail if no mesecon mod is installed am i correct? 01:30 VanessaE sapier1: correct. So you need to check for the presence of some registered mesecons node e.g. a mesecons wire. If it exists, execute the code needed to hook into the mesecons api 01:31 Kacey turned creative mode off 01:31 sapier1 thats what i did before latest version requires registering whole different nodes? 01:31 VanessaE Kacey: I test routinely in vanilla minetest_game both in creative mode and in standard mode. 01:31 NekoGloop it should need a right click 01:32 * VanessaE pokes mauvebic with a pull request icon :D 01:32 VanessaE NekoGloop: no. :-) 01:32 NekoGloop yes. 01:32 VanessaE mauvebic and I *just* got water flow working. I'm not about to switch to using rightclicks yet :-) 01:33 mauvebic rightclicks? 01:33 mauvebic did i send the right version? 01:33 VanessaE mauvebic: new feature added today, lets a mod catch a right-click for something other than a formspec. 01:33 VanessaE mauvebic: unrelated to pipeworks. 01:33 NekoGloop https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/5bc14e2fe45f12cdb69d302807d05985ee5552ee 01:33 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Add on_rightclick(pos, node, clicker) callback for nodes ? 5bc14e2 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 01:33 mauvebic ok lol 01:34 VanessaE mauvebic: refactor against current pipeworks git master and pull request plz. 01:34 Kacey right-click menu with a switch 01:35 NekoGloop [transformR90? 01:36 kaeza NekoGloop: I'm working on the documentation about that 01:36 VanessaE NekoGloop: rotates the texture listed to the left of the command by 90 degrees clockwise before applying it to the node/item 01:36 kaeza just being a bit laxy 01:36 kaeza lazy+ 01:36 NekoGloop lazy* 01:36 kaeza ** 01:36 NekoGloop VanessaE: so digging, not smacking? 01:37 VanessaE NekoGloop: eh? 01:37 NekoGloop instead of smacking with a shovel, we're digging ;) 01:37 VanessaE oh, yes 01:40 jojoa1997 how do i make this be for players 01:40 jojoa1997 Player.on_step = function(self, dtime) 01:41 Kacey VanessaE:idea: make the pipes slightly stronger as in more hp or whatever 01:42 VanessaE stronger!? 01:42 VanessaE you mean digging groups? 01:42 Kacey yes so they dont dissapear with one click in creative 01:42 VanessaE they're supposed to - that's a feature in creative now apparently. 01:43 VanessaE in normal mode, they'll take a second or two each to dig. 01:43 NekoGloop soo cant wait for pipes that carry ITEMS 01:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: pneumatic tubes, technic mod. 01:43 NekoGloop VanessaE: ones that can be used in a useful manner 01:43 mauvebic where does oil spawn in oil mod? 01:44 VanessaE mauvebic: shallow water at a beach, at the sand-water interface I think 01:44 OldCoder If I add node_ownership by randomproof to a world should I remove glomie protector? 01:44 VanessaE http://i.imgur.com/JewyW.png 01:44 VanessaE OldCoder: no need, they don't interfere with one another afaik. 01:45 OldCoder How do people feel about these two these days? 01:45 NekoGloop one is better than the other :P 01:45 OldCoder Which one? 01:45 NekoGloop protect block 01:45 OldCoder protector limits to -1000 01:45 OldCoder protect block? 01:45 OldCoder Is that the third? 01:45 NekoGloop you should be able to remove that IIRC 01:45 OldCoder I know there are three 01:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, safe to patch it out? 01:45 NekoGloop OldCoder: protect block == protector 01:45 OldCoder Glomie 01:45 OldCoder So use both 01:45 VanessaE OldCoder: I am partial to node_ownership, because that requires the admin or operator to issue the protection, meaning some random player can't just claim land someone else built on. 01:46 OldCoder VanessaE, would you keep protector as well? 01:46 OldCoder Hmm 01:46 OldCoder I guess not 01:46 NekoGloop VanessaE: they cant place it if you've protected your land :P 01:46 VanessaE OldCoder: I don't see a reason to keep it, as long as you have time to answer protection requests 01:46 OldCoder Well, I don't but world admins would 01:46 OldCoder O.K. 01:46 VanessaE sfan5: are you awake? 01:47 NekoGloop yes! super seeecret api for super seeeecret project is done :P 01:47 mauvebic you could always sell predefined 'lots' on the server, that could be done automatically 01:47 mauvebic (sell with funny money) 01:48 NekoGloop now to actually make a super seeeecret use for it :P 01:48 OldCoder Do people have opinions on the Nether mod? 01:48 kaeza OldCoder: just no 01:48 kaeza don't use it 01:48 mauvebic never tried it, does it work? 01:49 OldCoder kaeza, O.K. Go on. 01:49 OldCoder mauvebic, I don't know yet myself 01:49 VanessaE OldCoder: it's old, outdated, and extremely slow. 01:49 OldCoder k! 01:49 VanessaE OldCoder: do not use it. 01:49 kaeza the nether mod lags the server as...well, the nethe 01:49 kaeza +r 01:49 OldCoder Heh 01:49 OldCoder There is consensus 01:49 OldCoder never nether :p 01:49 OldCoder nethver 01:49 kaeza ;) 01:49 mauvebic we attack at dawn, leave no survivors 01:50 mauvebic i need villager NPC's for pillaging 01:50 sapier1 vanessae why has olde mesecon register_conductor support been dropped? 01:50 VanessaE sapier1: I'm not entirely sure, I have not read up on the new API Jeija is working on 01:50 NekoGloop whaaaaat 01:51 NekoGloop mesecons making progress instead of just updating every few seconds with miniscule changes 01:51 NekoGloop what is this. 01:51 kaeza lol 01:51 VanessaE NekoGloop: yep 01:51 sapier1 the way he's doing it right now makes it imposible to create mods that do run without mesecon installed ... at least i don't se a obvious way atm 01:51 Exio kaeza: the nether is slow as hell! 01:51 VanessaE sapier1: he's reworking the API for now 01:52 NekoGloop sapier1: you could always code in a soft dependancy. 01:52 Kacey afk dinner 01:52 NekoGloop like i should have done for gates mod 01:52 kaeza inb4 /nick Kacey|dinner 01:52 NekoGloop and because xyz stole my post i cant update :P 01:52 sapier1 no you can't if you need to do node different if a mod is present or not 01:53 Kacey nvm it will be here in an hour 01:53 sapier1 node registration 01:53 VanessaE sapier1: all you have to do is check for the presence of mesecons wires having been registered. 01:53 NekoGloop what the fuck. 01:53 NekoGloop did he fuck up the api since i left? 01:53 sapier1 they aren't as my mod is loaded prior mesecons 01:53 kaeza how about we put captchas to prevent node spambots from registering? 01:53 VanessaE sapier1: damn it. 01:53 kaeza 01:54 VanessaE sapier1: check for the presence of mesecons files on disk then 01:54 NekoGloop that is known as a soft depends :P 01:54 mauvebic still cant find oil lol 01:54 VanessaE e.g. look for mesecons/init.lua, if present, register. 01:54 NekoGloop mauvebic: then get better at it 01:54 sapier1 great ... hop pilzadam fixes this again as it's a regression to prior state of mesecons 01:54 VanessaE mauvebic: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=962 01:55 kaeza sapier1: according to celeron55 (or somebody) you can use minetest.get_modpath() to check for the availability of a mod 01:55 VanessaE kaeza: yes; I've used that myself once or twice 01:55 NekoGloop sapier1: ikr 01:56 sapier1 hmmm might work thx ... nevertheless its 100 lines of code compared to 6 lines it has been before ... not quite what i call "proggress" 01:56 kaeza cant remember if it returns nil or "" if mod not avail 01:56 VanessaE kaeza: nil I think 01:57 NekoGloop guess I'm making my own logic wires then 01:57 NekoGloop :) 01:57 * Kacey needs a mod idea 01:57 mauvebic under water thats where im looking lol am i sposed to dig ? 01:57 VanessaE mauvebic: no, apparently it should just be there, randomly - if the mod still works! 01:58 VanessaE maybe just do a /giveme and place a bunch for testing :) 01:58 mauvebic great lol none of my liquids work either :/ 01:58 kaeza sapier: local path=minetest.get_modpath("foomod"); if (path) then dofile(path.."/init.lua"); foomod_available = true; end 01:59 mauvebic http://www.zimg.eu/i/3339724765 02:00 VanessaE heh 02:00 VanessaE doesn't flow eh? :-) 02:00 kaeza that's strange 02:00 kaeza I got it flowing 02:00 mauvebic nope, neither does any other liquid i try to add 02:00 VanessaE or you mean the content_ignore errors, not sure why those happen 02:00 VanessaE mauvebic: some ABM has you stalled out then 02:01 VanessaE ABMs are used to make liquids flow I think 02:01 Kacey bbl 02:01 mauvebic but lava and water still flow :/ 02:01 VanessaE weird 02:01 NekoGloop mauvebic: try calling nodeupdate when you place a liquid out of a pipe 02:01 VanessaE dunno, must be some engine change since oil mod was written 02:03 mauvebic ill try compiling the latest engine from git in its own folder 02:04 NekoGloop nodeupdate(pos) where pos is the node being updated 02:04 VanessaE mauvebic: I suspect you need to go the other way, e.g. back to 0.4.1 or even 0.4.0-dev 02:04 NekoGloop use it when placing a liquid out of a pipe. 02:04 mauvebic i cant, economy mods needs fixed item_image rba submitted 02:05 VanessaE mauvebic: I mean for testing the oil mod - it obviously needs updated :-/ 02:05 VanessaE you know what the irony of this is? I originally wrote pipeworks as a replacement for oil mod's pipes 02:06 NekoGloop teaser of new api thing (i hope you can guess :3): http://pastebin.com/rctyQA8K 02:06 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: glooptest.ore_module.register_ore("glooptest", "kalite", "Kalite", { ore = { - Pastebin.com 02:06 mauvebic the version i have: none of the mod liquids work 02:06 VanessaE NekoGloop: be sure you start from my fork of gloopblocks, I fixed some broken recipes. 02:06 mauvebic in one case i copied the dec from default and changed the name and texture and still didn't work 02:07 VanessaE when you get to that mod I mean :) 02:07 mauvebic so hoepfully its just a bug that updating will fix 02:07 NekoGloop VanessaE: blocks_module will be from scratch anyhow. 02:07 VanessaE blocks_module? o.O 02:07 NekoGloop the ore_module, blocks_module, etc. 02:08 NekoGloop tis a modpack :) 02:08 VanessaE as long as you don't break the old node names :-) 02:09 sapier1 minetest.get_modpath won't work either as you need mesecons.on/off on registering nodes ... without setting a dependency you can't enforce mod load order 02:09 NekoGloop gloopblocks will likely be broken as i will likely add completely different things. 02:09 VanessaE my server uses gloopores and gloopblocks fairly liberally. 02:09 VanessaE nooooooOOOOOooooOOOooooOOoooOooOOooOoOoOOo 02:09 NekoGloop gloopores will be supported with aliases 02:09 Kacey back lol 02:09 NekoGloop VanessaE: they should be considered seperate mods, and should be used in combination. 02:09 VanessaE NekoGloop: well, okay as long as there's no duplication between them 02:10 VanessaE what made you decide to resume working on it? 02:10 NekoGloop boredom 02:10 Kacey Aggies, ##kacey please 02:10 VanessaE heh 02:10 VanessaE ok, well I look forward to seeing what you come up with :-) 02:10 NekoGloop besides, I'm writing this all from scratch. 02:11 Aggies ##kacey please 02:11 NekoGloop CC-BY-NC-SA license on it all. 02:11 VanessaE sounds okay to me 02:11 NekoGloop some parts may be licensed differently, just to comply with other licenses should i use anyone else's code. 02:12 VanessaE ok 02:12 NekoGloop which is why i wanted generate_ore exposed; too lazy to see if LGPL v2.1 is compatible in any form with CC-BY-NC-SA 02:12 VanessaE as long as people are free to steal your work ;) 02:12 NekoGloop my work, sure. 02:13 NekoGloop because it's shit anyway :P 02:13 VanessaE so 02:13 VanessaE so's mine, but I write it anyway :) 02:13 VanessaE there's a reason mauvebic is doing the fluid flowing code for pipeworks :) 02:14 NekoGloop because you're too incapable of doing it yourself? :> 02:14 VanessaE because when it comes to that kind of logic, I suck :) 02:14 NekoGloop pfft, why need logic 02:14 NekoGloop just check for connected pipes and alter metadata :P 02:15 VanessaE ask celeron55. He'll tell you my logic is random :) 02:15 NekoGloop like the fact that sometimes you ping him and some times you dont? 02:15 VanessaE no, that's just a mood thing :) 02:16 NekoGloop anyway, that little snippet is obviously code for adding a kalite ore. 02:16 VanessaE before you do that 02:16 NekoGloop while not adding the lump or anything else, it does that much. 02:16 mauvebic nope liquids still dont wont in newest version and i have to hold 'e' to fast move (not happy lol) 02:16 VanessaE generate_ore() was just exposed in the minetest API today 02:16 VanessaE so you don't have to copy the code. 02:16 NekoGloop Kacey: you're only gonna make my ping go down 02:16 NekoGloop VanessaE: i know 02:16 Kacey haha 02:17 NekoGloop the reason i wanted it that was was BECAUSE i didnt know if LGPL and CC-BY-NC-SA would play nicely. 02:19 NekoGloop VanessaE: would you be so kind as to pastebin the generate_ore lines from gloopores? 02:19 mauvebic anyone have a mod with liquids that work/flow? 02:20 NekoGloop and also because you've assumed *coughstolencough* control of the mod, then could you make it use the new default.generate_ore? 02:20 VanessaE NekoGloop: http://pastebin.com/mFRPnHgQ 02:20 NekoGloop ty :) 02:21 NekoGloop VanessaE: see above 02:21 Kacey !up 67.162.156.91 02:21 moltenbot Minetest server 67.162.156.91:30000 UP 02:21 Kacey alright 02:21 VanessaE NekoGloop: I am not maintaining it. I just put the post back online. 02:22 NekoGloop VanessaE: and i cant do anything with it :) 02:22 VanessaE why? 02:22 NekoGloop because I'm too lazy and it's your post 02:22 NekoGloop :) 02:22 VanessaE download the code, change it, upload the changes somewhere and I'll mirror them and change the post 02:22 NekoGloop >too lazy 02:22 VanessaE pfft 02:23 VanessaE says the guy who wants to rewrite it from scratch :) 02:23 NekoGloop also why would i bother, it's outdated as soon as i release the modpack :) 02:23 NekoGloop says the guy who has already rewritten it from scratch 02:23 NekoGloop ComputerCraft minecraft mod is excellent for learning lua. 02:23 VanessaE s/wants to rewrite/rewrote/ 02:24 NekoGloop all i have to do is plug in the numbers now. 02:24 NekoGloop have vanilla lumps at least been put in the middle of the image? 02:24 jojoa1997 how do you make a function dependent on a priv 02:25 VanessaE NekoGloop: not sure actually. 02:25 VanessaE (I didn't pay attention) 02:26 NekoGloop >9 month ago commit for default_coal_lump.png 02:26 NekoGloop yep, they're still sitting in the bottom of the image. 02:26 VanessaE NekoGloop: someone should submit my 16px HDX as default now :-) 02:26 VanessaE (yes, 16px) 02:27 NekoGloop heh. 02:27 NekoGloop ewwwww. 02:27 VanessaE (except some tools and craft items are 64px because they lose too much detail otherwise) 02:27 NekoGloop screenies or it looks like shit 02:27 VanessaE ok, hold. 02:27 * NekoGloop holds onto a kitten in a baseball cap 02:28 OldCoder VanessaE, update in progress 02:29 jojoa1997 how do you make a function dependent on a priv 02:30 kaeza jojoa1997: what function? 02:30 VanessaE NekoGloop: several screenshot links coming in just a minute.... 02:30 kaeza minetest.check_player_privs() 02:31 jojoa1997 nonono 02:31 * kaeza is installing Xfce4 desktop 02:31 kaeza hope this is worth the 24MB 02:32 kaeza I tried an older version and it was sh*t 02:32 kaeza jojoa1997: ? 02:32 jojoa1997 here is functionhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1498063/ 02:32 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 02:32 jojoa1997 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1498063/ 02:32 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 02:33 NekoGloop molten could click it but we couldnt 02:33 NekoGloop haaaaax 02:33 kaeza gimme a sec 02:33 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2001042013%20-%2009:28:15%20PM.png 02:33 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_143302163.png 02:33 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_143402271.png 02:33 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_143454409.png 02:33 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_143494758.png 02:33 VanessaE NekoGloop: ^^^^^^^^^ 02:33 NekoGloop holy shit 02:33 VanessaE I'd post more but that's already borderline flooding :) 02:33 kaeza SPAAAAAAAM 02:34 VanessaE kaeza: no, flood. there's a subtle difference. 02:34 jojoa1997 they are all different 02:34 NekoGloop your wooden planks look like shit 02:34 NekoGloop :) 02:34 kaeza well 02:34 kaeza s/SPAAAAAAAM/FLOOOOOOOOOD/ 02:34 kaeza that's better? 02:34 VanessaE kaeza: yup 02:35 jojoa1997 so about function 02:35 VanessaE flooding just means a posted a bunch of stuff, useful or not. spam is when it's purely useless and usually only if it's an advertisement :-) 02:35 kaeza jojoa1997: it seems right now 02:35 kaeza but you are not checking for privs again 02:35 NekoGloop VanessaE: hey, wanna see if my woodplanks are compatible? 02:35 jojoa1997 do i do it in the same spot 02:35 NekoGloop s/compatible/mesh well/ 02:36 VanessaE NekoGloop: maybe later. 02:36 NekoGloop why not now 02:36 NekoGloop ):) 02:36 VanessaE busy :) 02:36 NekoGloop well then get un-busy 02:37 VanessaE hey, I just took a bunch of screenies for you. so Pthththt 02:37 VanessaE :P 02:37 * NekoGloop ponuces redcrab 02:37 NekoGloop ponuces? pounces. 02:38 kaeza jojoa1997: http://pastebin.com/7RTQVvt1 02:38 moltenbot kaeza's link: [Lua] on_place = function(itemstack, placer, pointed) local name = placer:get_player - Pastebin.com 02:39 jojoa1997 kaeza:error=bad arguement #1 to 'get_player_privs' (string expected, got nil) 02:39 NekoGloop will adding multiple register_on_generated calls slow down the game any more than the same amount of code in a single on_generated? 02:39 kaeza jojoa1997: see the link I posted 02:39 VanessaE NekoGloop: slightly less of a slowdown to use multiple calls 02:40 jojoa1997 i saw testing 02:40 VanessaE let the C++ part of the game do its job :-) 02:40 VanessaE oh weird 02:40 NekoGloop oh really? multiple on_generateds cause LESS lag than one on_generated? 02:40 VanessaE lava goes slightly translucent as you move farther away from it. 02:41 jojoa1997 \o/ i see NOPE! 02:41 jojoa1997 it works 02:41 VanessaE NekoGloop: yes, if you run the same equivalent amount of code, because with one call, you have to manage your decisions in Lua, versus multiple calls which lets C++ manage it 02:41 kaeza jojoa1997: now try giving yourself the npcwhatever priv 02:43 NekoGloop VanessaE: but what if it's just different generate_ore calls? 02:43 VanessaE then it doesn't matter, because generate_ore() is entirely in Lua anyway :( 02:44 kaeza jojoa1997: you there? 02:44 NekoGloop gotcha. 02:44 jojoa1997 yep 02:44 jojoa1997 it works 02:44 kaeza working as expected? 02:44 jojoa1997 yep 02:44 kaeza good 02:44 kaeza even with the npc... priv? 02:44 jojoa1997 VanessaE: now it is ready for whenever you do it 02:45 VanessaE ok 02:45 kaeza jojoa1997: can I test it too? 02:45 jojoa1997 cant place npc without priv 02:45 jojoa1997 use my github 02:45 kaeza link? 02:45 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc 02:45 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: jojoa1997/peaceful_npc ? GitHub 02:45 kaeza k thx 02:48 jojoa1997 enough modding for me play time 02:50 jojoa1997 VanessaE: can you update now 02:50 kaeza jojoa1997, VanessaE: mod working as expected 02:50 kaeza jojoa1997: nice job 02:50 jojoa1997 thanks 02:50 jojoa1997 tnks for help too 02:50 VanessaE jojoa1997: done. 02:51 kaeza jojoa1997: np 02:51 VanessaE you break my server, I break your head :) 02:51 jojoa1997 \o/ 02:51 NekoGloop you break his head, i break his arm 02:51 NekoGloop :D 02:51 jojoa1997 just what i wanted for new years ;) 02:51 kaeza VanessaE: just don't give peacefulnpc priv to known spammers (*cough*KikaRz*cough*) 02:52 kaeza :P 02:52 VanessaE I probably won't give it to anyone actually 02:52 NekoGloop she'll just spam the npc's herself. 02:52 kaeza better yet :P 02:52 jojoa1997 i also fixed the bug where it would make players move sideways too 02:52 VanessaE 20:18:53: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <0gb_us> I see you guys are no longer mad at me. 02:52 VanessaE 20:19:08: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <0gb_us> Jojoa must have straitend things out. 02:52 VanessaE 20:22:07: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <0gb_us> First you ignore me, then you want to creepily follow me weverywhere? 02:52 VanessaE jojoa1997: ^^^^ someone noticed :-) 02:53 jojoa1997 ? 02:53 jojoa1997 VanessaE:your gonna give the priv to me right 02:53 NekoGloop VanessaE: you will need to rename the images though. 02:53 NekoGloop inb4 rage scream 02:53 kaeza lol 02:53 VanessaE that's for the "they all turn sideways when I approach" bug actually. 02:53 VanessaE NekoGloop: rename what? 02:53 NekoGloop VanessaE: in your texture pack 02:53 VanessaE NekoGloop: no. :-) 02:54 VanessaE keep your filenames the same. 02:54 NekoGloop well then it wont support it :) 02:54 jojoa1997 me? 02:54 VanessaE NekoGloop: ^^ 02:54 kaeza brb 02:54 NekoGloop VanessaE: the items and blocks will alias, not the textures. 02:54 VanessaE NekoGloop: why rename the textures? you can make them any filenames you want you know 02:55 VanessaE there's no practical reason to rename them 02:55 NekoGloop seeing as I'm not doing this in the normal modpack fashion it's a bit strange to code as is. 02:55 VanessaE mine's the only third-party texture pack that supports gloopores :-) 02:55 NekoGloop no modpack.txt in this modpack :) 02:55 VanessaE (but I haven't done the others yet) 02:56 NekoGloop I'm making a modpack that minetest doesnt think is a modpack 02:58 NekoGloop this is to avoid the spam of the /mods command ala mesecons :) 02:58 jojoa1997 kaeza: how is the spawn command 02:59 jojoa1997 you like it? 02:59 Kacey there is a /mods command? 03:00 VanessaE yep 03:00 jojoa1997 type /summonnpc # 03:00 NekoGloop and mesecons spams it. 03:00 NekoGloop :-) 03:00 jojoa1997 # = how many you want to spawn 03:00 VanessaE [01-04 22:00] * summonnpc :Unknown command 03:00 VanessaE ;) 03:00 * VanessaE is not on the server at the moment 03:01 jojoa1997 why you shutting down server 03:01 VanessaE I didn't. 03:01 jojoa1997 my neck is breaking 03:01 VanessaE 22:01:00: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaE 03:01 VanessaE rror: error: ...netest/games/vanessa_game/mods/peaceful_npc/init.lua:515: 'for' 03:01 VanessaE limit must be a number 03:01 VanessaE you suck. 03:01 VanessaE :) 03:01 kaeza what did I miss there? 03:01 jojoa1997 it worked on my pc 03:02 VanessaE disabled until you fix it. 03:02 NekoGloop the command was entered wrong i bet :P 03:02 jojoa1997 just shutdown VanessaE's server 03:02 VanessaE I disabled peaceful npc's and restarted the server, just until you fix that bug. 03:03 jojoa1997 can anyone help http://paste.ubuntu.com/1498175/ 03:03 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 03:05 jojoa1997 well.......... 03:05 jojoa1997 vanessae can you see why it shut down 03:05 jojoa1997 like in the debug.txt 03:06 kaeza jojoa1997: line 6 03:06 OldCoder mauvebic, Is my copy of your world up to date? 03:06 jojoa1997 what 03:06 VanessaE jojo, you forgot to do some basic sanity checking on the inputs you give to the code. 03:06 kaeza change to local npcs_to_spawn = tonumber(param) or 0 03:06 VanessaE do what kaeza said. 03:06 kaeza err 03:06 jojoa1997 so i add "or 0" 03:06 kaeza change to local npcs_to_spawn = tonumber(param) or 1 03:06 kaeza better 03:06 VanessaE or better, make it "or 1" at the end of the line 03:06 VanessaE nonja'd agaiN! 03:06 VanessaE ninja'd too 03:06 kaeza nonja'd? 03:07 kaeza lol 03:07 jojoa1997 local npcs_to_spawn = tonumber(param) or 1 03:07 kaeza jojoa1997: right 03:08 jojoa1997 done 03:09 VanessaE jojoa1997: updated, reinstalled, server restarted. 03:10 jojoa1997 kaeza: you test it? 03:11 NekoGloop VanessaE: you get your wish. the textures are not renamed due to my laziness 03:11 VanessaE jojoa1997: well if you'd hurry the hell up and finish logging in.... 03:11 VanessaE NekoGloop: heh, ok 03:11 jojoa1997 would not load 03:11 VanessaE jojoa1997: ok, or time out. 03:11 jojoa1997 loading now 03:12 jojoa1997 it always get stuck at Loading mesh: character.x 03:12 jojoa1997 then everything loads fast 03:12 jojoa1997 tupid windows 03:12 jojoa1997 *stupid 03:12 kaeza jojoa1997: use Linux :) 03:12 jojoa1997 no 03:12 kaeza :( 03:13 Kacey did you say no to linux?!?!?!?! 03:13 jojoa1997 WINDOWS ALL THE WAY for me 03:13 VanessaE Linux is Your Friend ™ 03:13 * leo_rockway pats jojoa1997's head. 03:13 leo_rockway I'm sorry 03:13 kaeza LIYF!! 03:13 jojoa1997 Windows is also my friend ;) 03:13 Kacey chuck norris will kill you in your sleep 03:13 kaeza no 03:13 jojoa1997 yay 03:13 NekoGloop new version of the glooptest ore module api example: http://pastebin.com/TdyE9j9u 03:13 jojoa1997 then i kill him 03:14 kaeza NekoGloop: new ores? 03:14 NekoGloop read: "kalite" 03:14 VanessaE kaeza: nope, the same dusty old ores as usual :D 03:14 NekoGloop same ores, implemented differently. 03:14 NekoGloop also exposed api function 03:15 kaeza NekoGloop: add kryptonite :D 03:15 NekoGloop kaeza: would look too much like arol 03:15 jojoa1997 scarry type /summonnpc 15 at night 03:15 VanessaE NekoGloop: technically, it wouldn't. the real thing is actually a greyish white. 03:15 VanessaE (yes, kryptonite is a real mineral) 03:15 NekoGloop ninja'd 03:16 NekoGloop then it would look too much like the stone it's in 03:16 VanessaE heh 03:16 NekoGloop besides, that would be better for the suuuper seeeeeecret other modules. 03:16 jojoa1997 bbs pc restart 03:17 OldCoder NEW: Rebuilding worlds. Mostly changes to Mark Twain that may be copied elsewhere after testing. Updated Vanessa World. Any other requests? 03:17 OldCoder mauvebic, see question above 03:18 Kacey OldCoder can i have a world? 03:19 NekoGloop can i have a pie? 03:19 * Kacey hands Neko a pie 03:20 * Kacey hands VanessaE a cookie 03:20 OldCoder NEWS Worlds are restarted! VanessaE That includes updated copy of yours. 03:20 OldCoder Kacey, What do you have? 03:21 * NekoGloop nomnomnomnomnom 03:21 VanessaE OldCoder: thanks. Also, news: the contractor finished most of the rough-in for the bathroom downstairs; the in-game model of my home is current, except I forgot to lay the hardwood floor we have planned. 03:22 * jojoa1997 crunch crunch crunch 03:23 jojoa1997 back with funions and munchies 03:23 VanessaE FUNYUNS!!! 03:23 * VanessaE steals all *NOM* 03:23 jojoa1997 saorry all gone 03:24 VanessaE you bastard :) 03:24 VanessaE selfish :-) 03:24 jojoa1997 you can have pretzels 03:24 VanessaE bleah. 03:24 jojoa1997 too bad my dog ate them 03:24 jojoa1997 i have munchies 03:24 jojoa1997 cheese flavored 03:25 jojoa1997 http://www.fritolay.com/our-snacks/munchies-cheese.html 03:25 Kacey OldCoder: what? 03:28 jojoa1997 just sommuned 20 npcs over water mass suicide 03:29 jojoa1997 vanessae look in game 03:29 VanessaE jeez 03:31 Kacey lol /summonnpc 99999999999999999999999\ 03:32 VanessaE BAHAHAH! 03:32 jojoa1997 you crashed my client 03:32 VanessaE I summoned 20, then another 50 - the latter crashed my client :D 03:32 jojoa1997 how many did you spawn 03:33 jojoa1997 try summoning 1000 03:33 VanessaE fuck no 03:33 jojoa1997 server crash time 03:33 VanessaE it won't crash the server but I bet it'll take forever and a day to spawn 'em all 03:33 jojoa1997 i know 03:33 jojoa1997 it is funny how they drop in just five spots 03:33 VanessaE actually, that did crash the server 03:34 jojoa1997 so it looks like there is only five 03:34 * VanessaE issues /clearobjects 03:34 jojoa1997 !up vanessae.mine.bz 03:34 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP 03:34 Kacey wb 03:34 jojoa1997 kaeza try spawning 50 npcs 03:34 VanessaE jojoa1997: now you see why that command and the spawners absolutely HAVE to be priv-limited. 03:35 jojoa1997 vanessae /clearobjects issue 03:35 OldCoder Kacey, you asked *me* a question 03:35 jojoa1997 yep 03:35 VanessaE it's still running :-) 03:35 OldCoder jojoa1997, test peaceful npc now 03:35 jojoa1997 we already did 03:35 VanessaE oops, killed the server again :D 03:35 jojoa1997 just dont spawn above 10 03:35 VanessaE (that time, just because I hit the wrong key on the command line) 03:36 jojoa1997 spawn 30 i n one spot and vanessae server shutsdown 03:36 jojoa1997 nvm 03:36 jojoa1997 '!up vanessae.mine.bz 03:36 * VanessaE re-issues /clearobjects 03:36 jojoa1997 why issues 03:36 VanessaE jojoa1997: it's up already. let it clear out the damage I did :-) 03:36 jojoa1997 just takes forever 03:36 VanessaE jojoa1997: learn to read. 03:37 VanessaE [01-04 22:35] oops, killed the server again :D 03:37 VanessaE [01-04 22:35] (that time, just because I hit the wrong key on the command line) 03:37 jojoa1997 i know 03:37 jojoa1997 [22:35] spawn 30 i n one spot and vanessae server shutsdown [22:36] nvm 03:37 VanessaE that's why I re-issued it - when you shut the server down gracelessly like I did, it also kills any commands that were running 03:37 jojoa1997 oh 03:38 jojoa1997 i thought you were saying that there were issues with the command 03:38 jojoa1997 line 508 https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc/blob/master/init.lua 03:38 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: peaceful_npc/init.lua at master ? jojoa1997/peaceful_npc ? GitHub 03:38 VanessaE criminy! 03:38 VanessaE this is taking forever. 03:38 jojoa1997 anyone want to tell me how to set limit 03:39 VanessaE ok, screw this. 03:39 * VanessaE yanks out peaceful_npc 03:39 jojoa1997 will you add it later 03:40 VanessaE when you debug it, yes. 03:40 jojoa1997 anyone want to tell me how to set limit 03:41 jojoa1997 well 03:41 VanessaE keep a count of how many NPCs are active, compare that value against the amount a person asks to spawn, if it tries to go over some limit, say max of 20, adjust the number being spawned. 03:41 Kacey nope 03:44 * VanessaE patiently waits for /clearobjects to finish... 03:45 jojoa1997 try that with mobf 03:46 VanessaE shit, I actually went into swap there for a while 03:46 VanessaE christ in a cartoon 03:48 jojoa1997 how is this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1498361/ 03:48 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 03:49 VanessaE well I think I killed them all off (as "unknown object" sprites, but that works anyway) 03:49 jojoa1997 is it right 03:49 jojoa1997 nvm testing it 03:50 VanessaE jojoa1997: that should work, but you still need to keep a count of the total number of NPCs in the active area 03:50 jojoa1997 how do i do that 03:50 jojoa1997 nvm 03:50 jojoa1997 sorry how do i do that 03:51 VanessaE I'm not sure how that's done, probably with the get_objects_inside_radius() function 03:51 VanessaE maybe with a radius of 100, if the value returned is over say 30, deny the spawn request entirely. 03:51 VanessaE get_objects_inside_radius(pos, radius) 03:51 jojoa1997 i know i can just shut off function if 03:51 VanessaE where pos would be the player's current position 03:51 jojoa1997 it is over 30 03:52 jojoa1997 one sec 03:52 VanessaE bear in mind that this command will also find things like carts, signs text, torch particles, etc., so it will need some tuning. 03:52 jojoa1997 there s code for that in the spawner 03:52 kaeza back 03:52 VanessaE ok 03:53 kaeza bad weather and wireless transmissions don't get along very well :/ 03:53 VanessaE kaeza: long-distance wireless? 03:53 kaeza especially when there's thunder 03:54 VanessaE eek 03:54 VanessaE where there's thunder, there's lightning - I hope you've isolated all your important equipment 03:54 kaeza it already passed 03:54 kaeza (th storm) 03:54 VanessaE oh ok 03:55 VanessaE jojoa1997: now, realistically, you should probably have the spawn limit set to no more than twice what your automatic spawning limit is set for 03:55 Kacey tehe 03:55 jojoa1997 k 03:56 VanessaE so if you're doing 4 per 100 node radius, you probably want to set your limit to maybe 10 03:56 jojoa1997 spawner set for 5 but will set limit for 15 03:56 jojoa1997 it is now 1 per 100 radius 03:56 VanessaE ok 03:56 VanessaE I think 2-3 per 100-node radius is good 03:56 jojoa1997 meseblock is too valueable to have 4 per 100 03:56 VanessaE ok 03:57 jojoa1997 set to 2 03:57 Kacey http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Pants_92d7d3_245780.jpg haha 03:58 Kacey core dumped :( 03:58 * Kacey is going to start on a mod 03:59 Kacey idk what it is going to be but ooh well 04:00 jojoa1997 is this right 04:00 jojoa1997 if SPAWN_LIMIT >= 15 then 04:01 jojoa1997 for the >= 04:03 jojoa1997 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1498419/ 04:03 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 04:03 Kacey mod ideas... mod ideas 04:03 jojoa1997 syas unexpected symbol near "}" 04:03 Kacey AHA COOKIES!!!! 04:03 jojoa1997 line 20 04:05 Kacey are cookies already in a mod? 04:05 jojoa1997 what is unexpected about end 04:05 VanessaE jojoa1997: SPAWN_LIMIT is a misnomer, you should put something like "active_npc_count" 04:05 jojoa1997 k 04:05 VanessaE since that 15 really is your spawning limit. 04:05 kaeza jojoa1997: again, respect indentation 04:06 Kacey ok who changed the api page? 04:07 jojoa1997 same error 04:07 VanessaE jojoa1997: correct your indentation first, then let's see the current code 04:07 NekoGloop ok who pushed the red button 04:08 jojoa1997 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1498451/ 04:08 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 04:08 VanessaE remember, every time you "if", function(), register_something(), etc., tab. every time you "end", subtract a tab. 04:08 Kacey sorry i thought i would get cookies 04:09 VanessaE your variable usage looks more or less okay now. what's the exact error? 04:09 jojoa1997 unexpected symbol near } 04:09 jojoa1997 line 20 04:09 VanessaE actually I see it, you need to get rid of that if at line 18 of the paste, then add an end at line 18 04:09 NekoGloop unexpected symbol near jojoa1997 04:10 VanessaE you are doing: for xxxxxxx if xxxxxx then xxxxx else if xxxxxxx end 04:10 VanessaE you're short at least one 'end'. 04:11 VanessaE jojoa1997: get rid of the whole of line 17, then add another 'end' right between line 19 and 20. 04:11 VanessaE jojo, so you should have something like: 04:11 VanessaE for xxxxxxx if xxxxxx then xxxxx else xxxxxxx end end }) 04:12 jojoa1997 f active_npc_count <= MAX_SPAWN then minetest.env:add_entity({x=pos.x+math.random(-1,1),y=pos.y+math.random(2,3),z=pos.z+math.random(-1,1)}, ("peaceful_npc:npc")) else minetest.chat_send_player(name, "The spawn limit is 15") end end }) 04:12 VanessaE jojoa1997: pastebin!!!!! 04:12 jojoa1997 sorry 04:12 thexyz NekoGloop: nobody needs them, right? 04:12 thexyz so broken links is not a problem 04:12 NekoGloop thexyz: yeah but what was it supposed to link to 04:13 jojoa1997 dooing something weird with spacing http://paste.ubuntu.com/1498471/ 04:13 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 04:13 NekoGloop curiousity shall kill the cat, in an incredibly crude metaphorical manner of speech 04:13 jojoa1997 same error 04:15 VanessaE jojoa1997: code and exact error message via pastebin 04:15 Kacey how do i call upon the get_player_name() function 04:15 jojoa1997 gtg please make correction a pull request 04:15 jojoa1997 cya 04:15 VanessaE Kacey: very politely? ;) 04:15 NekoGloop I just realised I have no way of testing all of this code until I've finished making it all. 04:15 Kacey lol no 04:16 NekoGloop fck. 04:16 VanessaE NekoGloop: ah, the joys of coding :-) 04:17 Kacey how do i get it to be in the middle of a sentence 04:17 NekoGloop because the way i set this up, it'll error at startup because this one file doesnt exist yet 04:17 NekoGloop but if i comment that out, then it wont load ANYTHING. 04:19 Kacey O.o it loaded 04:20 Kacey how do i call the get_player_name() function/command in the middle of a chat message output 04:20 Kacey thst was horribly put 04:21 NekoGloop Kacey: "foo "..get_player_name().." bar" 04:21 Kacey ooh ok 04:22 NekoGloop .. is the same as +, except for strings. 04:23 VanessaE there, git reset back to his last good commit before the privs/summonnpc stuff. 04:23 VanessaE (so at least the server still has them) 04:24 Kacey testing... 04:24 kaeza NekoGloop: problems with code? can I help in your "supah secret projekt"? 04:24 NekoGloop kaeza: no. 04:25 kaeza ok :) 04:25 NekoGloop because i dont have a "supah secret projekt" 04:25 jojoa1997_tab sorry but i have to go to bed now. could you please make a pull request on my github 04:25 Kacey init.lua:5: attempt to call global 'get_player_name' (a nil value) 04:25 NekoGloop I have a "suuuuuuuper seeeeeeeeecret project" 04:25 Kacey huh? 04:25 kaeza NekoGloop: problems with code? can I help in your "suuuuuuuper seeeeeeeeecret project"? 04:25 Kacey what is up with my code 04:25 kaeza :) 04:25 VanessaE jojoa1997_tab: no, because you need to fix your own code 04:26 VanessaE you have to learn how to do this :) 04:26 NekoGloop kaeza: no. 04:26 kaeza Kacey: wrong 04:26 kaeza Kacey: code plz? 04:26 Kacey hang on 04:26 kaeza NekoGloop: ok :) 04:26 jojoa1997_tab no i meant with the latest pastebin i gave yall. i lost it on my pc 04:27 VanessaE jojoa1997_tab: git pull 04:27 VanessaE that'll re-fetch your code from github. 04:27 VanessaE or git clone, whichever you need to do 04:27 jojoa1997_tab no i mean the paste bin 04:27 kaeza oh dear 04:27 VanessaE http://paste.ubuntu.com/1498419/ 04:27 jojoa1997_tab i have the git version on my pc 04:27 Kacey http://pastebin.com/zf9TFtSV 04:27 moltenbot Kacey's link: minetest.register_chatcommand("hello", { params = "", description = "Player - Pastebin.com 04:27 VanessaE wait, wrong one. 04:27 VanessaE http://paste.ubuntu.com/1498451/ 04:28 VanessaE that's the last one you posted I think 04:28 Kacey kaeza ^^^^^^ 04:28 kaeza Kacey: http://pastebin.com/pYeARQ2y 04:28 moltenbot kaeza's link: [Lua] minetest.register_chatcommand("hello", { params = "", description = "Player - Pastebin.com 04:28 jojoa1997_tab thanks 04:29 kaeza Kacey: you don't actually need get_player_name() in that case 04:29 Kacey ooh ok 04:29 kaeza because it is already passed as the `name' argument 04:29 Kacey ok 04:30 Kacey tehe 04:30 kaeza working? 04:31 Kacey ya forgot spaces the 04:31 Kacey though* 04:32 Kacey get on my server and see it work 04:33 NekoGloop gaaaah 04:33 NekoGloop ore module code is sooo huge 04:33 NekoGloop this is like the opposite of what i wanted ;.; 04:34 Kacey lol 04:34 NekoGloop although, since it is performing less code than gloopores was, maybe it'll be faster? :? 04:35 Kacey haha have a /hello and a /cookie command 04:37 jojoa1997_tab bet time good night 04:37 jojoa1997_tab bed 04:38 Kacey night 04:38 Kacey beware of chuck norris 04:38 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caAGyHayvaY 04:38 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: English Cover?JubyPhonic P?Hide And Seek ???? - YouTube 04:39 Kacey idea: mese apples made from mese fragments and apples 04:40 NekoGloop idea: meow 04:40 NekoGloop too golden apple-y 04:40 kaeza NekoGloop: my turn :3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1nsBwLqLTE 04:40 moltenbot kaeza's link: Grand Theft Awesome - YouTube 04:41 NekoGloop it's not musidc 04:41 NekoGloop music* 04:41 NekoGloop your agruement is invalid. 04:41 kaeza err..what? 04:42 NekoGloop someone tell me why the fuck i just made alatro tools have arol aspects >.> 04:42 kaeza NekoGloop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT7Cz7K_QkI 04:42 moltenbot kaeza's link: no te va gustar - al vacio - YouTube 04:42 kaeza THAT is music :3 04:42 NekoGloop no, it's people screaming and whistling :P 04:43 Kacey no mese apple isnt a good idea 04:43 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL6CHHWw1hU 04:43 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Alice Human Sacrifice [64 Voices] Chorus nico nico + you tube - YouTube 04:45 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15hOaHnS4t4 i win 04:45 moltenbot Kacey's link: Hollywood Undead - Everywhere I Go with Lyrics (Uncensored) - YouTube 04:46 kaeza 04:46 NekoGloop No, that doesnt even touch alice human sacrifice. 04:47 Kacey it kills it 04:47 NekoGloop no, alice human sacrifice kills you. 04:47 Kacey alright /cookie works :P 04:47 NekoGloop needs moar /kitten 04:48 NekoGloop VanessaE: I suppose you want me to not break tool incompatibility either? 04:48 VanessaE actually, gloopblocks and toolsizes aren't supported in HDX yet :-) 04:48 VanessaE however, 04:49 NekoGloop gloopores tools. 04:49 VanessaE ah 04:49 VanessaE well 04:49 NekoGloop and i meant with wear and shit. 04:49 VanessaE all I know is the item/node names need to stay the same or there will be unknown nodes/items all over the map 04:49 thexyz and in reply to >you could at least leave it as my name :P 04:50 thexyz what if you'll delete everything again? 04:50 NekoGloop why, are talinite blocks the newest fad in interior lighting 04:50 VanessaE evening thexyz. 04:50 thexyz morning, VanessaE 04:50 NekoGloop thexyz: obviously nothing because I'd never even be *able* to. 04:50 VanessaE NekoGloop: no but for some incomprehensible reason, people seem to like evil blocks/stairs as well as rainbow blocks :) 04:51 Kacey what is the evil mod about? 04:51 NekoGloop rainbow blocks dont tile as well as I'd like them to. 04:51 NekoGloop also, those are gloopblocks. As i said, gloopblocks will be kept as a seperate mod entirely. 04:51 VanessaE NekoGloop: you have to make them an exact multiple of 6 (or 7), so 18 or 21 px instead of 16. 04:52 NekoGloop :P 04:52 thexyz lol, wtf, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4332 leftclick — 2, rightclick — 13 04:52 moltenbot thexyz's link: [Poll] Open/Close Doors (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 04:52 thexyz why? 04:53 NekoGloop ew, non standard sizes 04:53 NekoGloop thexyz: because digging is an ass 04:53 kaeza thexyz: consistency? 04:53 NekoGloop i'm also one of the 8. 04:53 kaeza me too 04:53 thexyz kaeza: rightclick to open doors *is* inconsistent 04:53 NekoGloop thexyz: do you right click to open a chest? 04:53 kaeza thexyz: it *is* consistent with how other activatable nodes work 04:53 NekoGloop the answer is yes 04:54 kaeza what Neko said 04:54 VanessaE if doors go to right-click to operate, I guess I'll tweak home decor, but only after that flag we talked about in -dev gets in. 04:54 NekoGloop mesecons will update shortly i presume to use right click for levers buttons etc. 04:54 NekoGloop VanessaE: care to share with the class? 04:54 thexyz kaeza: how can it be consistent if there was no on_rightclick before? 04:54 VanessaE NekoGloop: what share? 04:54 thexyz and everything is activated ATM using left click 04:55 NekoGloop VanessaE: the flag 04:55 kaeza thexyz: read what Neko said ^^^ 04:55 NekoGloop not everyone hangs out in -dev 04:55 thexyz we don't use chests (in terms of minetest api) 04:55 VanessaE neko: minetest.api_features (table) that will hold one or more fields/flags that indicate if a given feature is present, in this case one which indicates that right-click-to-operate is availab.e. 04:55 VanessaE available* 04:56 NekoGloop you could also just add a config. 04:56 thexyz well, I see, this has more advantages than disadvantages 04:56 NekoGloop suddenly, matryoshka. 04:56 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye4ZFA5OtKI 04:56 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?????200+??Matryoshka ?????? - Nico Nico Ultimate Chorus of Choruses! - YouTube 04:57 kaeza thexyz: lclick should be reserved exclusively for the "main" action (digging). rclick for "secondary" (or "context sensitive") actions. 04:57 NekoGloop now i want tools to have a on_rightclick as well 04:58 ecube What's wrong with them dropping on rightclick? 04:58 NekoGloop 1) stupid 04:58 kaeza 2) duplicated functionality from 'Q' 04:58 VanessaE ecube: admin pick in a server that shouldn't allow regular users to have it? 04:58 VanessaE drop one accidentally, someone else finds it... 04:58 NekoGloop 2) i want my gun to shoot on right click, rather than also not being able to dig with it 04:59 NekoGloop (gun is an example) 04:59 NekoGloop also, eating. 04:59 kaeza Neko: +1 04:59 NekoGloop I eat apples like crazy because I try digging with them. 04:59 Kacey xpad 04:59 Kacey going to play minetest with a 360 controller 04:59 NekoGloop gl hf 05:00 NekoGloop yay 4 saturday~ 05:00 kaeza Kacey: I use qjoypad 05:00 thexyz you mean, we should drop on_use? 05:00 Kacey linux/init.h: No such file or directory 05:00 Kacey i ccannot compile qjoypad 05:00 thexyz too bad for you 05:00 kaeza Kacey: sudo apt-get? 05:01 ecube those are under linux-headers, wouldn't they be? 05:02 ecube VanessaE: good point 05:02 NekoGloop thexyz: on_use should be rightclick :P 05:02 ecube Nah, you should be able to call on_use in on_rightclick, but the on_rightclick thing should be introduced for more flexibility 05:03 thexyz NekoGloop: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues 05:03 moltenbot thexyz's link: Issues ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 05:03 NekoGloop why, so you can piss on my idea in a more official setting? 05:03 ecube somebody added the minecraft bukkit stuff to the AUR T_T 05:03 thexyz NekoGloop: sure 05:03 ecube (offtopic) 05:04 VanessaE NekoGloop: but then again, the pissing-on would go on record officially as well, so you can shame random people then ;) 05:04 VanessaE (just kidding *hides from thexyz*) 05:04 NekoGloop it's also on record here 05:04 * NekoGloop points at loggingbot_ 05:04 VanessaE NekoGloop: but it's easier to forget, even with the log :-) 05:12 kaeza hey jakssoul 05:12 jakssoul You guys know what's awesome? Amnesia - The Dark Descent. You know what's not awesome? Playing it with only 6FPS. 05:12 jakssoul Hey kaeza! I've missed you. 05:13 jakssoul I turned two HP Mini 1010NR's into a HP DV6700. Twice the size, 4 times the RAM, dedicated video card, etc. 05:13 Kacey im going to play minetest on a 360 controller 05:13 jakssoul Kacey, it's way nicer that way. 05:13 kaeza jakssoul: you know what's more awesome? that warcraft III locks up your entire computer if the fullscreen window loses focus 05:13 Kacey you have done it? 05:13 kaeza :P 05:13 jakssoul Wow. That's awful. 05:13 jakssoul Yes, Kacey. 05:13 Kacey what keymapper did you use? 05:13 jakssoul On Windows though. Haven't tried doing it on Linux. 05:13 Kacey crap 05:14 jakssoul There should be a default one. 05:14 kaeza Kacey: q-j-o-y-p-a-d 05:14 jakssoul Like, preinstalled. 05:14 jakssoul YEAH! That. 05:14 Kacey I cannot compile that 05:14 jakssoul Oh darn. 05:16 VanessaE if you're on linux, you can compile. 05:16 VanessaE one goes with the other, like bacon and eggs. 05:16 jakssoul Bacon and Pancakes, she means. 05:16 Kacey Error: you will need libxtst to compile this program 05:16 jakssoul Eggs are gross. 05:16 VanessaE so install libxtst ? 05:17 Kacey i tried sudo apt-get install libxtst but it could not find the package 05:17 VanessaE apt-cache search libxtst 05:17 VanessaE pick whichever one looks like the right one. 05:18 VanessaE you probably want libxext-dev 05:18 Kacey apparently i already have it 05:19 Kacey nvm wrong one lol 05:19 VanessaE oops, misread that 05:19 VanessaE libxtst-dev 05:19 VanessaE try installing that one :) 05:20 Kacey rror: you need at least Qt version 4.2 to use this program 05:20 VanessaE libqt4-dev 05:21 Kacey now we wait... 05:22 Kacey k now i make qjoypad 05:22 VanessaE have fun :) 05:23 kaeza well played *ubuntu! we want to install a 200KB program and you make us install 200MB of additional libs. well played... 05:23 Kacey going to get on your server with it lol 05:23 VanessaE kaeza: I think the theory is that if you're building a program that needs all those libs, you're probably already running a system that uses them (e.g. KDE in this case) 05:24 Kacey good thing i got a chatpad for christmas and 12 months of xbox live gold 05:24 VanessaE Kacey: have fun 05:24 Kacey i will :) 05:24 jakssoul kaeza, Have you always lived... where you live? xD Where was it again? 05:24 jakssoul (Country) 05:25 kaeza VanessaE: now we have KDe running Gtk+ apps, Gnome running Qt apps, foo running bar apps, and so on, so you need *all* the libs anyway 05:25 Kacey mkdir: cannot create directory `//usr/local//share/pixmaps': Permission denied 05:25 Kacey hmm? 05:25 VanessaE kaeza: true :-/ 05:25 kaeza jakssoul: Uruguay 05:25 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_OcKMD5d3w 05:25 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Touhou - Rumia's Are you NUTS!?! PV ~Full Version~ {1080p} - YouTube 05:25 VanessaE kaeza: sudo make install 05:25 VanessaE Kacey: ^^^^ 05:25 jakssoul That's right. Have you always live in Uruguay? 05:25 kaeza yup 05:25 kaeza y? 05:25 jakssoul Hello, NekoGloop/. 05:25 VanessaE Kacey: but it's better to learn how to use checkinstall, in case you need to remove it later. 05:25 jakssoul Why do you have such a good sense of humor? 05:25 kaeza -.- 05:26 jakssoul kaeza, the sense of humor thing was directed towards you. xD 05:26 Kacey qjoypad is already open... i donnt see it 05:27 kaeza you say us Uruguayans have some bad sense of humor? 05:27 kaeza you're right :( 05:27 jakssoul No, I say foreigners generally don't get American humor, yet you take it like a comic genius. 05:27 jakssoul But yes, I was thinking that. xD 05:28 kaeza hehe 05:28 Kacey how do i open a gui for qjoypad? 05:28 kaeza the thing is I speak better in english than in spanish :P 05:29 * NekoGloop speaks better in japanese than english. Note that this doesnt mean i know all the words in japanese. 05:29 kaeza konnichiwa 05:29 kaeza fail? 05:29 NekoGloop I just flow better with my speech in japanese 05:29 NekoGloop kaeza: konnichiha* 05:29 jakssoul kaeza, do many people in your community speak English? 05:30 Kacey how do i sync a wired controller with my computer? 05:30 jakssoul I really freaking wish there was a Slender build for Linux. 05:30 jakssoul Plug it in. 05:30 jakssoul It should have the drivers preinstalled. 05:30 jakssoul Even with Linux. I have tested that. 05:30 Kacey i did that but it is not connecting 05:30 kaeza jakssoul: not many, at least properly 05:30 jakssoul Then do some Googling, man. 05:30 kaeza (english speakers) 05:30 jakssoul Then why do you, kaeza ? 05:31 kaeza dunno 05:31 kaeza too much videogames I think :P 05:31 jakssoul Hahahaha! 05:32 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/Df9BkniJ glooptest.ore_module.register_ore in it's entirety. 05:32 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: [Lua] glooptest.ore_module.register_ore("glooptest", "alatro", "Alatro", { ore = { - Pastebin.com 05:34 NekoGloop VanessaE: ^ 05:35 VanessaE zzz 05:35 OldCoder zzz? 05:35 Kacey my computer is not sensing the controller 05:35 VanessaE zzz. 05:35 * NekoGloop puts a kitten with an alarm clock on VanessaE's head 05:35 NekoGloop dingdingdingding 05:35 * VanessaE sets the alarm two minutes into the future and sticks it at the bottom of OldCoder's pile of kittens 05:36 jakssoul Hey, VanessaE, are you busy? 05:36 NekoGloop jakssoul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdsRkhQUbZc 05:36 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: [Original Song] Slender [Miku, Rin, Len, and Luka] PV- English Subbed - YouTube 05:36 VanessaE jakssoul: not presently, but I am getting pretty tired X-O 05:36 * OldCoder opens a portal into Happy Kitten Land and gently moves the kittens through the portal. 05:37 jakssoul How do I get to the file where I need to uncomment crud to get my repositories working? 05:37 * jakssoul catches the portal on fire. 05:37 OldCoder mauvebic, VanessaE, check my copy of your world sometime 05:37 * VanessaE opens a portal above OldCoder and points it at Happy Kitten Land's receiving dock. 05:37 NekoGloop now to add the other ores into the ore_module 05:37 * OldCoder is bemused at the rain of kittens. Mew! Mew! 05:37 * kaeza pings realbadangel to make him implement the portals so OldCoder can send the kittens to the Happy Kitten Land 05:37 * NekoGloop throws a portal gun at VanessaE 05:37 VanessaE NekoGloop: your code looks good acually, at least it's well-formatted, easy to read through 05:38 * VanessaE looks at the portal gun...what do I do with it? 05:38 NekoGloop shoot portals, ma'am 05:38 NekoGloop :) 05:38 kaeza also: THE CAKE IS A LIE!!! 05:38 NekoGloop no. 05:38 * jakssoul scream, "THE CAKE IS A LIE", 05:38 jakssoul DAMN YOU KAEZA! You beat me to it. 05:38 * VanessaE opens a portal with it, sets the gun on auto-fire, 5 second delay, and tosses the gun in 05:39 kaeza ninja'd 05:39 jakssoul VanessaE, You would destroy reality. 05:39 VanessaE DIE, EVIL FABRIC OF SPACETIME! 05:39 VanessaE :) 05:39 NekoGloop what if you shoot a portal while traveling between two portals. 05:40 NekoGloop "Do not look directly into the operational end of the device" 05:40 NekoGloop "Do not submerge the device in liquid" 05:40 * NekoGloop plays multiplayer, looks at his friend's gun's operational end 05:40 VanessaE "Do not taunt happy fun ball." 05:41 * NekoGloop also jumps into water with the portal gun 05:41 kaeza "warranty void if seal broken" 05:41 kaeza "made in taiwan" 05:41 * NekoGloop biggest fuck you to GLaDOS ever. 05:41 Kacey no made in china 05:41 VanessaE kaeza: meanwhile, the seal is on the outside of the packaging :) 05:41 NekoGloop technically, it's made in aperture science 05:41 Kacey my computer will not recognize my controller 05:41 NekoGloop which is somewhere in the midwest. 05:42 kaeza VanessaE: http://www.picslap.com/sites/default/files/field/image/sealofapproval.jpg 05:42 NekoGloop VanessaE: the api code which you saw there, is actually longer than the code that actually uses it :o 05:43 VanessaE kaeza: haha that's actually kinda cute :D 05:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: sounds about like plantlife....the library is bigger than the functional parts of the mods that use it 05:44 NekoGloop heh :) 05:45 NekoGloop the api code can be called from any mod that depends on glooptest. 05:46 NekoGloop also, i ninja'd in generate code INSIDE the register_ore 05:46 NekoGloop :D 05:46 Kacey haha i win 05:47 NekoGloop one giant leap at a time, i shall make this mod. 05:47 NekoGloop Today's giant leap was coding register_ore. 05:47 kaeza NekoGloop: and add Kryptonite :D 05:48 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caAGyHayvaY 05:48 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: English Cover?JubyPhonic P?Hide And Seek ???? - YouTube 05:49 NekoGloop ding dong, i have won this game~ 05:49 Kacey wawwwwwwaw 05:49 Kacey typed that with my controller 05:50 NekoGloop Up left up up up up up up left up 05:50 Kacey s/left/down 05:50 NekoGloop S should be down. 05:51 Kacey ooh ya 05:51 Kacey please work 05:52 NekoGloop is that pointed at anyone in particular, or your controller? 05:52 Kacey controller 05:53 NekoGloop tomorrow: add arol, talinite, akalin, desert coal & iron 05:53 NekoGloop next day: add furnace powered by nearby lava 05:54 Kacey does anyone know how to set axis to mouse? 05:54 NekoGloop magic 05:55 Kacey must be 05:55 Kacey i cannot get an axis to go to more than one setting 05:55 NekoGloop you're the one on linux 05:55 NekoGloop haxxor it 05:55 Kacey howz? 05:56 NekoGloop decompile make it work recompile 05:56 Kacey how do i decompile? 05:56 NekoGloop you're the haxxor, not me. 05:56 Kacey im no haxxor 05:56 NekoGloop linux user == software haxxor 05:57 NekoGloop if you're allowed to make stereotypes about windows users then I'm allowed to make stereotypes about linux users. 05:59 Kacey uugh wish this would WORK 06:00 kaeza aswddawdaaadddddddddddwswsw 06:00 kaeza yup 06:00 Kacey ? 06:01 Kacey what was that 06:01 kaeza qjoypad :) 06:01 Kacey :'( i cant get mine to work :'( 06:02 kaeza joystick not recognized? 06:02 kaeza oh wait 06:02 kaeza nvm 06:02 kaeza joystick not recognized? 06:02 Kacey it is recognized i just cant program it 06:03 kaeza Kacey: in a terminal: qjoypad -notray 06:04 Kacey ok now what? 06:04 kaeza configure :) 06:05 kaeza Kacey: a window should have popped up 06:05 kaeza with the image of a gamepad 06:05 Kacey i can only get it to push mouse in one direction 06:06 kaeza hm? 06:06 kaeza explain 06:06 Kacey wdsaw 06:07 Kacey s a w 06:07 Kacey yay 06:09 NekoGloop ... 06:12 Kacey oops pointer got stuck 06:15 jakssoul_ Any of you guys have Minecraft for PC? 06:16 Oblivion1500 NO! 06:16 Kacey eesewessdwas 06:17 jakssoul_ I don't like it either, don't worry. 06:17 Oblivion1500 GOOD! 06:17 jakssoul_ But since nobody is going to help this Linux n00b (me) out with compiling Minetest, I'm just going to get someone's account info so I can login to Minecraft once then play offline foreverrrr. 06:17 Oblivion1500 just kidding, havent played it on pc so i really couldent say if it was good or bad 06:18 jakssoul_ It's decent from what I played on 360. 06:18 Oblivion1500 you just said you didnt like it 06:18 jakssoul_ It's so much like Minetest it's not even funny. Well, it's the other way around, but whatever. 06:18 jakssoul_ Yeah, but it's better than nothing. 06:18 Oblivion1500 why dont you just play minetest online? 06:19 jakssoul_ I. Cannot. COMPILE IT! 06:19 jakssoul_ xD 06:19 Oblivion1500 there should be something showing you how to do it on minetest.net front page 06:19 jakssoul_ I read all the directions. 06:19 jakssoul_ I am too stupid. 06:19 Oblivion1500 google is the god of all answers 06:19 jakssoul_ Hahah, not really. 06:19 jakssoul_ Instructions take too long. 06:19 Oblivion1500 no, really 06:19 jakssoul_ Too impatient. 06:19 OldCoder Or is it... the answer of all Gods? 06:19 jakssoul_ Both. 06:19 Oblivion1500 same thing 06:19 jakssoul_ Well, neither. 06:20 jakssoul_ Gods don't exist. Me = Winner. 06:20 Kacey i gtg to bed and i got my controller programmed! 06:20 Oblivion1500 lol no you just lost the game 06:20 jakssoul_ Good job, Kacey. 06:20 jakssoul_ Who already left. 06:20 Oblivion1500 yep see you lose 06:21 jakssoul_ Die, Oblivion. 06:21 jakssoul_ Have you played Oblivion? 06:21 jakssoul_ It's pretty amazing. 06:21 Oblivion1500 no 06:21 jakssoul_ You're kidding. 06:21 Oblivion1500 nope, 06:21 jakssoul_ It's one of the best games I have ever played. 06:21 jakssoul_ It stole at least 300 hours of my life from me. 06:21 jakssoul_ Skyrim only took maybe 60. 06:21 Oblivion1500 bahaha 06:22 jakssoul_ Oblivion, in reality, probably got more like 400. 06:22 Oblivion1500 yea im more of a fps fan depending on the online content of rpgs 06:22 jakssoul_ Have you played any Bethesda games based on that engine? 06:22 jakssoul_ Like, Fallout? It's FPS. 06:22 Oblivion1500 yea and borderlands 06:23 jakssoul_ FPSRPG. Hahah. 06:23 jakssoul_ Both are great. 06:23 Oblivion1500 i just got borderlands 2 06:23 jakssoul_ Fallout I like more, though. 06:23 jakssoul_ B-lands 2 kicked ass for action, not so much for RPG. 06:23 Oblivion1500 i like BL because its online gameplay is epic 06:23 jakssoul_ No tengo internet, usually. 06:24 jakssoul_ So, online play means nothing to me. 06:24 Oblivion1500 do what now? 06:24 jakssoul_ BL's split screen was my favorite. 06:24 jakssoul_ I don't have internet, usually* 06:24 jakssoul_ Played with my little brothers on B-Lands allllll the time. 06:24 Oblivion1500 oh lol well i am a social person so i need internets to play games 06:24 jakssoul_ Now I'm in foster care, so even that is ruined. Bahaha. 06:24 Oblivion1500 oh that sucks 06:24 jakssoul_ I have to solo all of my games. 06:25 jakssoul_ Right now I'm standing to rip off my neighbors internet. xD 06:25 jakssoul_ Not going to get immersed in any game I have to stand for. :P 06:25 Oblivion1500 lol 06:25 jakssoul_ I installed that Amnesia game earlier. 06:25 Oblivion1500 just put your system on the wall 06:25 jakssoul_ Have you played it? 06:25 Oblivion1500 (mount) 06:25 jakssoul_ I got rid of my system to get my fiance her ring. 06:26 Oblivion1500 no whats it about? 06:26 jakssoul_ It's a Horror game. 06:26 jakssoul_ Scariest shit ever. Well, would be if I had more than 6 Frames Per Second. 06:26 jakssoul_ I got it from TPB. *coughs.* I meaaaaan. WHAT? 06:27 Oblivion1500 im gonna watch the trailer one sec 06:27 jakssoul_ It's pretty great. 06:31 Oblivion1500 i lold 06:31 kaeza want a creepy game? play The Adventures of JB 06:31 Oblivion1500 Whats jb? 06:31 Oblivion1500 jail bait? 06:31 kaeza Justin Bieber 06:31 kaeza yuck 06:31 Oblivion1500 NO 06:32 Oblivion1500 i wont do it 06:32 Oblivion1500 hey kaeza, you have a server right. whats the ip? 06:32 kaeza jail bait O_o 06:33 kaeza not currently 06:33 jakssoul_ You lol'ed? 06:33 Oblivion1500 thats what i thought you were getting at.. lol i didnt know what JB was 06:33 Oblivion1500 yea i did.. thought it was funny. not a game i would play 06:34 kaeza (04:29:34) Oblivion1500: hey kaeza, you have a server right. whats the ip? 06:34 kaeza not currently ^^ 06:34 Oblivion1500 i dont get freaked out by games... maybe a good movie.. usually dont.. im the guy in the theater that laughed as everyone gasped 06:34 kaeza hey Dawg 06:34 Oblivion1500 yea i saw that lol 06:35 Oblivion1500 i dont miss anything kaeza 06:35 Oblivion1500 well how about this, what is the best server in your oppionion 06:36 kaeza vanessae.mine.bz 06:36 jakssoul_ Oblivion, you don't understand. 06:36 kaeza and minetest.org 30010 06:36 Oblivion1500 isent that creative? i 06:36 jakssoul_ I don't get freaked out by games either, but this... this is different. 06:36 Oblivion1500 im on mt.org lol 06:37 kaeza ikr 06:37 kaeza :P 06:37 Oblivion1500 i dont know.. i still think all games need to be online. i wont play it if i cant be social 06:38 kaeza fck social games 06:38 Oblivion1500 and if i want to be an asshole to everyone i will play a online fps lol 06:38 kaeza (at least FB ones) 06:38 Oblivion1500 no 06:38 Oblivion1500 i dont like facebook game lol 06:38 Oblivion1500 well pot farm is fun 06:39 * jakssoul_ high fives kaeza. 06:39 jakssoul_ Social games. ughhh. 06:39 * jakssoul_ vomits. 06:40 kaeza let's make minetest more like a FB social game: "You walked 3 steps! Your energy is depleted! Invite 821749 of your friends and you'll both have 1 extra energy point to walk another step!" 06:40 Oblivion1500 but games that you can actually talk to people wile playing them.. 06:40 Oblivion1500 yea no 06:41 * jakssoul_ laughs uncontrollably, and begins developing a game like kaeza described. 06:41 jakssoul_ Oh, that was a joke, huh? 06:41 jakssoul_ xD 06:41 Oblivion1500 if you develop it you could make money 06:41 jakssoul_ Money wouldn't cover the humility I would suffer for that kind of violation of video game culture. 06:41 kaeza Making money is not the primary goal in FLOSS 06:42 Oblivion1500 yea, thats for teeth 06:42 kaeza (and sometimes is not a goal at all) 06:42 jakssoul_ Screw FLOSS in this instance, doing stuff like that is just being a douchebag. 06:42 kaeza thanks, I appreciate your thoughts :/ 06:43 Oblivion1500 lol 06:43 jakssoul_ I meant going against the philosophy of it. 06:43 jakssoul_ Not contributing to the idea of FLOSS. 06:43 jakssoul_ Ugh nevermind. I worded that badly. 06:43 kaeza yup 06:43 Oblivion1500 What the heck is FLOSS? 06:43 jakssoul_ Dick. 06:43 kaeza Free/Libre and Open Source Sfotware 06:44 kaeza Software* 06:44 jakssoul_ Libre = ? 06:44 jakssoul_ Latin or something? 06:44 Oblivion1500 oic 06:44 jakssoul_ Spanish? 06:44 jakssoul_ It's both Latin and Spanish. 06:44 jakssoul_ Why isn't it just FOSS or LOSS? 06:44 kaeza Free = free as in "free beer" (i.e: gratis), Libre = free as in "free speech" 06:45 Oblivion1500 what is the goal usually in an open source game? something that everyone can contribute to? 06:45 OldCoder Liberty 06:45 jakssoul_ Oh, combining the tool. 06:45 jakssoul_ too* 06:45 jakssoul_ TWO*! 06:45 jakssoul_ Blagghh. Oblivion: Yup. 06:45 jakssoul_ It's free. 06:45 Oblivion1500 tow 06:45 jakssoul_ Free = Love. :D 06:45 jakssoul_ Don't you know, Love is all you need. xD 06:45 Oblivion1500 na something could be paid for and still have love 06:46 Oblivion1500 like food 06:46 kaeza Oblivion1500: the main goal is to make it so eveeryone can learn, and so that everyone is free to use the software 06:46 Oblivion1500 i pay for food and love it 06:46 jakssoul_ But, here's some math. 06:46 jakssoul_ Food = Love. Free food = LOVE. 06:46 jakssoul_ Understand? 06:46 jakssoul_ xD 06:46 kaeza no? 06:46 jakssoul_ New Software = Love. Free New Software = LOVE. 06:46 Oblivion1500 well someone has to pay for it 06:47 Oblivion1500 somehow 06:47 jakssoul_ Nah. 06:47 jakssoul_ Unless you derive a direct correlation between time and money. 06:47 kaeza Oblivion1500: the "payment" is in contributions 06:47 jakssoul_ Then someone, lots of someones, is paying for it. 06:47 kaeza be it a simple patch 06:47 kaeza a feature suggestion 06:47 kaeza etc 06:47 jakssoul_ Oh. 06:47 jakssoul_ I guess you could be a pedantic jackass and say, "They're paying for electricity". 06:48 Oblivion1500 so like i said something that eveyone can contribute too, something that eveyone can make it better 06:48 kaeza yup 06:48 kaeza exactly 06:49 Oblivion1500 what do you thinks going to happen when it hits 1.0 or even 2.0, im sure there are going to be fetures that you have to pay for just like every game 06:49 kaeza tell me something: can you *actually* help make Windows better? 06:49 kaeza nope 06:49 Oblivion1500 ... uhm duh 06:49 Oblivion1500 yea you can 06:49 kaeza cause it's closed source, proprietary software 06:49 Oblivion1500 you cant produce it 06:50 jakssoul_ Yes, you can, kaeza. 06:50 jakssoul_ That's not true. You can develop applications and the like to make it better. I suppose you aren't making "Windows" better, but you are making the Windows experience better. 06:50 Oblivion1500 you just need software that you install onto windows, you cant sell an edited version of windows 06:50 jakssoul_ Is modding for Minetest making Minetest better? I say yes, so same theory. 06:51 jakssoul_ Mods aren't changing "Minetest", but they change the experience. 06:51 kaeza yeah, but you are missing a point 06:51 Oblivion1500 isent there modding for minecraft as well 06:51 kaeza you can freely modify the *game engine* 06:51 jakssoul_ No, I got your point. I am in a "Pedantic Jackass" mood. 06:51 kaeza (or the "OS") 06:51 kaeza (contrary to Windows) 06:52 jakssoul_ I wish I could put Xubuntu on a tablet. 06:52 jakssoul_ I would ****** everywhere. 06:52 kaeza yeah! lets ****** everywhere!!! 06:52 kaeza um... 06:52 kaeza what's ******? 06:52 Oblivion1500 i want to install an linux based os on my external but i dont have the time lol 06:53 Oblivion1500 also im not sure of the one i should install... 06:53 jakssoul_ (Orgasm) 06:53 Oblivion1500 should i get ubuntu? 06:53 jakssoul_ Xubuntu. 06:53 Oblivion1500 or what 06:53 Oblivion1500 why? 06:53 jakssoul_ NO! UNITY IS FOR douchebags. 06:53 kaeza Oblivion1500: if you are for games, go for good old 'buntu 06:54 kaeza and yes, fck unity 06:54 jakssoul_ Ubuntu is for douchebags. 06:54 jakssoul_ Darn, no HTML. 06:54 kaeza install another desktop environment ASAP 06:54 jakssoul_ Xubuntu? Yes. 06:54 jakssoul_ Lubuntu? Yes. 06:54 jakssoul_ Kubuntu? Ye.....maybe. 06:54 Oblivion1500 not really a gaming computer.. but yea 06:54 jakssoul_ Unity and Kubuntu are pretty heavy resource users. 06:54 jakssoul_ Xfce is beautiful. 06:55 kaeza jakssoul_: fun fact: you can (almost) totally replace Unity 06:55 jakssoul_ kaeza: fun fact: Yeah, that's called uninstalling Ubuntu and getting Xubuntu. 06:55 jakssoul_ xD 06:55 kaeza with a bit of patience 06:55 kaeza nope 06:55 jakssoul_ I know. 06:55 jakssoul_ It was humor. 06:55 kaeza I'm using plain 'buntu with Xfce 06:55 kaeza yep 06:56 kaeza we have bad humor 06:56 kaeza :D 06:56 jakssoul_ Why would you do that, kaeza? 06:56 jakssoul_ http://www.pcworld.com/article/2014263/meet-the-pengpod-a-true-linux-tablet-starting-at-120.html 06:56 moltenbot jakssoul_'s link: Meet the PengPod, a 'true Linux' tablet starting at $120 | PCWorld 06:56 kaeza do what? 06:56 jakssoul_ Does this not make you want to *** everywhere? 06:56 jakssoul_ Put Xfce on ubuntu. 06:56 kaeza hmm...no? 06:57 jakssoul_ I meant the link. 06:57 jakssoul_ It should. 06:58 kaeza (04:53:42) jakssoul_: Put Xfce on ubuntu. 06:58 kaeza because there is some concept called "Freedom" where you can install whatever the gnikcf operating system you want 06:59 jakssoul_ Yeah, but, that's... pointless. 06:59 jakssoul_ I don't get your point. 06:59 jakssoul_ It's convoluted. 06:59 kaeza then install Arch :) 06:59 jakssoul_ Why have Ubuntu at all if you're going to change the biggest thing separating it from Xubuntu? 07:00 Oblivion1500 jak you dont even know how to compile something 07:00 jakssoul_ Oblivion, were you really taking me seriously? 07:00 jakssoul_ I was clearly kidding. 07:00 kaeza yeah...right 07:00 kaeza "kidding" 07:00 Oblivion1500 lol 07:01 jakssoul_ >_> I may not be a Linux genius, but I know how to compile programs 07:01 kaeza yes, certainly you are not :P 07:02 jakssoul_ Dick. 07:02 Oblivion1500 so, kaeza what os do you think i should install 07:03 Oblivion1500 lol 07:03 kaeza lol 07:03 kaeza sorry jakssoul! 07:03 kaeza :P 07:03 Oblivion1500 so? 07:04 kaeza I would recommend Xubuntu or something like that 07:04 Oblivion1500 lol arguing with him only to give me his suggestion 07:04 kaeza :P 07:05 Oblivion1500 is there an easy way to install it on my external? 07:05 kaeza explain external 07:05 Oblivion1500 1tb external harddrive 07:51 thexyz of course you should try gentoo 07:55 kaeza thexyz: too late, I already converted him to Puppy Linux. MWAHAHAHA 07:55 kaeza lol J/K 07:56 Oblivion1500 whats your thoughts on Mint 13 07:56 Oblivion1500 lol no you didnt 07:56 kaeza Mint is too overbloated IMHO 08:01 khonkhortisan first you start compiling programs, then you start fixing compilation errors, then segfaults, then bugfixes, then adding new features, and ta-da! You're a programmer! 08:02 kaeza wrong 08:02 khonkhortisan okay 08:02 khonkhortisan I'm fine with being wrong 08:02 kaeza you fix a bug, you introduce 10 new bugs 08:02 kaeza (repeat until bugs == 0) 08:03 khonkhortisan I'd say that goes more for features than for bugs 08:04 khonkhortisan No, I did NOT search for the 10 biggest bugs on Earth. 08:04 kaeza "Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature." -- Rich Kulawiec 08:10 Oblivion1500 i should learn python before learning C shouldent i? 08:11 khonkhortisan I know c++ better than python, so I wouldn't know. 08:11 khonkhortisan x**y = x^y 08:21 OldCoder kaeza, Hi 08:21 OldCoder kaeza, PM 08:22 kaeza OldCoder: hi 08:22 kaeza k 08:24 thexyz Oblivion1500: mint is fine 08:26 * OldCoder is resting 08:28 OldCoder NEWS: http://minetest.org/ has been tidied up a bit but more work is needed. For example, I'll add _game ZIPs at some point and possibly full maps. 08:28 moltenbot OldCoder's link: OldCoder Minetest Site 08:29 OldCoder Also more clients 08:29 Oblivion1500 lol for a comp running with 2gb of ram? and im trying to install on an external hard drive and dual boot it with windows 08:30 Oblivion1500 OldCoder: good work 08:46 Oblivion1500 learning http://cli.learncodethehardway.org/book/ then im going to go on to python ext by the end of this year i should be ready to create my own extencive program :) 08:46 moltenbot Oblivion1500's link: None 08:49 Oblivion1500 lol trust me thats a link 08:53 kaeza lol: http://cheezburger.com/6935923712 08:53 moltenbot kaeza's link: Internet Explorer Crashed! - Cheezburger 08:56 webdesigner97 hi :) 08:57 markveidemanis Hi! 08:57 webdesigner97 hi mark 08:58 markveidemanis !up minetest.org:30010 08:58 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30010:30010 DOWN 08:58 markveidemanis ? 08:58 markveidemanis moltenbot won't behave 08:58 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 30010 08:58 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30010 UP 08:58 markveidemanis ? 08:58 markveidemanis yay 08:59 markveidemanis why not with the colon? 08:59 webdesigner97 huh? 09:00 markveidemanis as in... 09:00 markveidemanis !up minetest.org:30010 09:00 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30010:30010 DOWN 09:00 markveidemanis :30010:30010 09:00 webdesigner97 idk 09:00 markveidemanis Bots are bugged... 09:00 markveidemanis anyways, want to come on? 09:01 Oblivion1500 something with irc makeing : a referance to repeat or something 09:01 Oblivion1500 probably something to do with ping 09:02 markveidemanis who can help me compile ZNC 09:02 Oblivion1500 not me lol 09:02 webdesigner97 i can't :D 09:04 kaeza http://cheezburger.com/6934338048 09:04 moltenbot kaeza's link: I Will Not Give In! - Cheezburger 09:04 Oblivion1500 lol so in other words markveidemanis everyone else can 09:05 webdesigner97 btw, what is ZNC? 09:05 markveidemanis Google it:D 09:07 webdesigner97 ok :) 09:07 markveidemanis Compiling now. 09:07 markveidemanis just ran "make" from terminal:D 09:07 markveidemanis Cake! 09:07 markveidemanis Come on my server? 09:08 markveidemanis ZNC sounds "Light" 09:08 markveidemanis on the CPU 09:08 webdesigner97 who, I? 09:09 markveidemanis Yep. 09:10 markveidemanis how do i set an away message 09:10 webdesigner97 I'm working on my mod, so i can't come to your server :/ 09:11 webdesigner97 but I've got a little problem: How can i access the methods of InvRef? http://dev.minetest.net/InvRef 09:11 moltenbot webdesigner97's link: InvRef - Minetest Developer Wiki 09:13 Oblivion1500 with those commands 09:13 Oblivion1500 lol 09:14 webdesigner97 :/ 09:15 webdesigner97 local inventory = placer:get_inventory() 09:15 webdesigner97 print(inventory.get_size("main")) 09:15 Oblivion1500 i need to learn lua first 09:15 webdesigner97 bad argument #1 to "get_size" userdata expected, got string :/ 09:17 webdesigner97 and the dev wiki says get_size("listname") <= and that is a string..... 09:19 Oblivion1500 maybe asl oldcoder? 09:19 Oblivion1500 ask 09:20 webdesigner97 i asked on forum and continue the mod later 09:20 webdesigner97 bye :) 09:20 markveidemanis what port is FreeNode 09:22 Oblivion1500 i think 6667 if i remember correctly 09:22 markveidemanis ok 09:22 markveidemanis do i want SSL? 09:23 Oblivion1500 i dont know lol 10:26 webdesigner97 hi :) 10:26 kaeza hey 10:29 Oblivion1500 ello 10:31 webdesigner97 thx for your help, kaeza :) 10:31 kaeza hm? 10:31 kaeza np ;) 10:31 webdesigner97 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62029#p62029 10:31 moltenbot webdesigner97's link: Place a block with LUA (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 10:32 kaeza webdesigner97: about your last comment 10:32 webdesigner97 found out 10:32 kaeza is that on_dig? 10:32 kaeza oh 10:32 webdesigner97 return itemstack 10:32 kaeza ninja'd :P 10:32 webdesigner97 on_place 10:33 webdesigner97 :) 10:33 kaeza does it work as expected now? 10:34 webdesigner97 yep 10:34 webdesigner97 it removes I item from the inventory :) 10:34 kaeza nice 10:34 KikaRz Hi there people 10:34 KikaRz now in Linux :) 10:34 kaeza hey KikaRz 10:34 webdesigner97 hi 10:35 kaeza KikaRz: +100000 10:35 KikaRz ?? 10:35 KikaRz What's that? 10:35 kaeza Linux :P 10:35 Oblivion1500 internets 10:35 Oblivion1500 thats how many you got 10:35 KikaRz lol 10:35 KikaRz making apt-get update dist-update 10:35 KikaRz or something 10:36 KikaRz sudo apt-get dist-upgrade 10:36 kaeza Xubuntu? 10:36 KikaRz yay, i have amd64... 10:36 KikaRz no kaeza 10:36 kaeza which one? 10:36 KikaRz It's Crunchbang. (Or Debian-based linxu) 10:36 KikaRz *linux 10:37 kaeza oh ok 10:37 KikaRz A lot of shortcut keys 10:37 KikaRz don't you think? 10:37 KikaRz They're useful. 10:38 kaeza very useful 10:38 kaeza especially the desktop/workspace switch 10:38 kaeza (win+[1-9]) 10:38 KikaRz wow. crunchbang already haves XChat and CHROMIUM! 10:39 kaeza preinstalled? 10:39 kaeza cool 10:39 KikaRz Yea. 10:39 KikaRz You should try it 10:39 kaeza I had to install them manually here :( 10:39 kaeza KikaRz: link? 10:40 KikaRz crunchbang.com 10:40 KikaRz 2.8.8 its the latest version of XChat? 10:41 Oblivion1500 should i get that one? 10:41 KikaRz Yea 10:41 kaeza hmm dunno 10:41 * kaeza is googling 10:41 KikaRz very cool, with good programs included 10:41 kaeza 2.8.9 10:42 KikaRz apt-get dist-upgrade will update xChat? 10:42 KikaRz lol 10:43 KikaRz And no normal menus. You know that menus of button? or from Unity? 10:43 KikaRz Here you can right click on the desktop 10:43 KikaRz and the menu will open 10:43 KikaRz :P 10:43 kaeza KikaRz: sudo apt-get upgrade 10:43 kaeza will update everything outdated 10:43 KikaRz kaeza, it was the First Running Configuration 10:44 kaeza KikaRz: doesn't it come with a panel (aka taskbar)? 10:44 KikaRz Yea 10:44 KikaRz it comes 10:44 kaeza fbpanel? 10:44 KikaRz on the below 10:44 KikaRz of the screen 10:44 KikaRz there is 2 spaces 10:44 KikaRz (screen 1 ) (screen 2) 10:45 KikaRz there it will show programs running into 2 screens 10:45 kaeza maybe it's fbpanel 10:45 KikaRz and at the side: 10:45 KikaRz the things 10:45 kaeza fbpanel/openbox make a great couple :P 10:45 KikaRz Internet, Clipboard manager, sound, XChat 10:45 KikaRz and the time and date 10:45 KikaRz :P 10:46 kaeza you can configure *all* the things in it, including the "Menu" icon 10:46 kaeza (and the label) 10:46 KikaRz idk 10:46 KikaRz but i can try. 10:46 kaeza y u no put your name on it? :P 10:47 KikaRz lol? 10:47 kaeza for fbpanel, the config is at ~/.fbpanel/menu 10:47 kaeza IIRC 10:49 KikaRz should i install linux-image-2.6-liquorix-amd64 ? 10:49 KikaRz hmmm... i don't know if i should do that... 10:51 KikaRz If you want a new google page... 10:51 KikaRz choose this: http://crunchbang.org/start/ 10:51 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Web Search - CrunchBang 10:51 kaeza http://www.google.com/ig :) 10:51 moltenbot kaeza's link: iGoogle 10:53 KikaRz iGoogle will not be available after November 1, 2013. Learn more. 10:54 Oblivion1500 why? 10:55 KikaRz Wait 10:56 KikaRz http://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=igoogle%20will%20not%20be%20available%20after%20november%201%2C%202013.%20learn%20more.&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsupport.google.com%2Fwebsearch%2Fbin%2Fanswer.py%3Fhl%3Den%26answer%3D2664197&ei=vAboUJPbApOAhQf7zIC4BQ&usg=AFQjCNGe4IngxvLFO6PYhavmsP5yCTzgeQ&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.ZG4 10:56 KikaRz FAIL 10:56 KikaRz Thats not a virus, just a google link,. 10:57 KikaRz Gangnam style in 1080 HD... = SLOW NETWORK 10:58 KikaRz eeeeee...e.e.e.eeeeeeee 10:58 KikaRz sexist lady... 11:01 kaeza KikaRz: http://5z8.info/PIN-phisher_j2s9he_racist-raps 11:02 KikaRz And that's? 11:03 Oblivion1500 nothing at all lol, a shady url 11:03 kaeza KikaRz: http://5z8.info/this-page-will-steal-all-of-your-personal-data_j6m4sw_dont-just-drizzle 11:03 KikaRz ... 11:03 kaeza lol 11:03 kaeza click it ;) 11:04 Oblivion1500 that page will steal all your personal information 11:04 kaeza maybe.... after all, it points to google lol 11:05 Oblivion1500 lol yea you should just use bing 11:12 Zeg9 Yahoo 11:21 KikaRz testing minecraft... 11:21 KikaRz then ill test minetest 11:23 KikaRz Minecraft: 4 FPS 11:36 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:37 sapier hello 11:37 kaeza hey 11:38 kaeza (and awaiting for KikaRz to disclose the Minetest FPS) 11:38 sapier does anyone have experience in exporting to md2 from blender? 11:38 KikaRz finalized the compilation 11:38 KikaRz let me run it... 11:39 kaeza 15 minutes? obamanotbad.jpg 11:39 KikaRz 20/25 FPS 11:39 KikaRz 5 fpss. 11:39 kaeza that's a HUGE increase from MC :D 11:40 KikaRz no, at initial, minecraft did 24/25 fps 11:40 KikaRz then, decreased 11:40 KikaRz like minetest 11:40 kaeza oh 11:41 KikaRz how i update the drivers? 11:41 KikaRz and what drivers i should get? 11:41 kaeza gfx card? (exact model) 11:41 KikaRz wait 11:42 kaeza is "wait" a gfx card vendor? lol 11:42 KikaRz damn 11:42 KikaRz i forgot 11:42 kaeza NVidia right? 11:43 KikaRz yea 11:43 KikaRz geforce nforce something 11:44 KikaRz wait 11:44 kaeza http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=266 11:44 moltenbot kaeza's link: HOW TO - Install NVIDIA drivers on Linux 64 bit (generic) 11:44 KikaRz i guess i need to get into windows to see the properly 11:44 KikaRz The exactly 11:45 kaeza KikaRz: wait 11:45 kaeza there should be some "System info" program 11:46 kaeza In ubuntu it's Settings->System->Details 11:46 kaeza see if you have it somewhere 11:46 kaeza hey Jordach 11:46 Jordach hey 11:52 KikaRz cant find video card 11:55 OldCoder Back 11:56 KikaRz 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2) 11:56 KikaRz OldCoder!| 11:56 KikaRz I missed you so much! 11:56 KikaRz *--* 11:57 PilzAdam hi Jordach 11:58 KikaRz kaeza, ive sent you 11:58 kaeza wb OldCoder 12:00 TB|Vibe-X hi all 12:01 TB|Vibe-X PilzAdam, do you have a second? i found your bed mod and installed it on my server (linux). the mod ist loaded, but do you know if it is possible to skip night (sleep) on a dedicated server? 12:01 TB|Vibe-X or is it just in singleplayer possible? 12:01 PilzAdam it has multiplayer support 12:01 kaeza KikaRz: I think it's either libgl1-mesa or the nouveau drivers. not sure 12:01 PilzAdam if all players are in the bed the night is skipped 12:02 PilzAdam s/the/a/ 12:02 TB|Vibe-X ah okay, beacuse if i left click on a bed, nothing happens, but im the only one on server 12:02 Calinou SAUEROOOOO 12:02 Calinou hi 12:02 Calinou (new sauerbraten release :D) 12:02 kaeza hey 12:02 TB|Vibe-X i installed in /games/minetest_game/mods because in m/mods/ it doesnt run on my server o.O 12:02 PilzAdam TB|Vibe-X, do you have the latest version? 12:02 TB|Vibe-X sauerbraten release? :D 12:03 TB|Vibe-X yeah, minetest, minetest_game and yours from git 12:03 Calinou yes, see sauerbraten.org 12:03 TB|Vibe-X i just use git versions 12:03 * Calinou is collectin' teh collect edition 12:03 PilzAdam TB|Vibe-X, then try rightclick the bed ;-) 12:03 TB|Vibe-X o.O wait i try again :D 12:03 TB|Vibe-X but i can install on /games/minetest_game/mods right= 12:03 PilzAdam its not recommended, but you can do it 12:03 kaeza PilzAdam: the rightclick is already in master right? 12:04 PilzAdam yep 12:04 Calinou bad practice 12:04 PilzAdam I pushed it yesterday 12:04 Calinou put your mods in ~/.minetest/mods/minetest 12:04 kaeza oh right 12:04 Calinou (if you compiled without run-in-place) 12:04 Calinou if you compiled with, then in your minetest folder/mods/minetest 12:05 TB|Vibe-X yeah i did run in place, when i install in mods/minetest the mod wont be loaded o.O i will try again 12:05 Calinou make sure you put the mod folder correctly 12:05 Calinou eg. mods/minetest/moreblocks/init.lua 12:05 Calinou make sure your structure is similar to that 12:05 KikaRz idk what i want linux for 12:05 KikaRz :( 12:05 KikaRz if i cant play minetest / minecraft properly on it. 12:05 Calinou for fleeing windows? 12:06 Calinou :> 12:06 TB|Vibe-X minetest@srv1:~/minetest-0.4.4-d1-linux/mods/minetest/beds$ 12:06 kaeza WOW PilzAdam appears as a suggestion on Google Instant :P 12:06 TB|Vibe-X right? 12:06 PilzAdam kaeza, what? 12:06 Calinou kaeza: it is not a google instant suggestion, it's ajax suggestions 12:06 Calinou TB|Vibe-X: with init.lua file inside? yes 12:06 Calinou are you 100% sure it is run in place? 12:06 TB|Vibe-X yes 12:06 Calinou are you running the minetest_game and not "minimal" game? 12:06 TB|Vibe-X yes 12:06 Calinou you can see it in server log 12:06 kaeza Calinou: whatever 12:07 TB|Vibe-X i compiled on virtual maschine in rune place, made archive 12:07 TB|Vibe-X with make 12:07 Calinou type /mods to see mod list, does it return any mods you installed? 12:08 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4332 12:08 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: [Poll] Open/Close Doors (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 12:08 TB|Vibe-X beds are missing, but bones is used (installde on /games/minetest_game/mods/ 12:08 TB|Vibe-X beds is in /mods/minetest/ and not loaded o.O 12:08 Calinou PilzAdam: voted for right click 12:08 Calinou more logical 12:08 PilzAdam great! 12:08 Calinou you don't open chests with left click 12:08 Calinou also, it makes mining the doors easier 12:09 Calinou they don't flip like hell especially if you play singleplayer 12:11 PilzAdam Ill push this patch this afternoon 12:12 TB|Vibe-X nice beds is loaded now, but clicking do nothing :D i will look at this later . have to eat (all you can eat chinese buffet) 12:12 TB|Vibe-X have a nice day ;) 12:12 PilzAdam c u 12:21 PilzAdam Calinou, can you add the first 7 chars of the commit hash to your unofficial changelog? 12:22 PilzAdam (to see when its last updated) 12:23 Calinou if I want to do that I'll have to go through the whole git log for minetest and minetest_game, would take time for little benefit 12:24 Calinou if someone wants to see the commits they can just look at the git logs then ctrl+f :P 12:24 PilzAdam no, I mean only for "last update" 12:24 PilzAdam like "last update: 2013-01-04 (f6asd4g" 12:25 PilzAdam +) 12:25 Calinou oh 12:26 Calinou PilzAdam: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commit/a0ba7cf97302eab03f331a4cd81b02aa2cecc05d < add a minetest.conf setting to allow read only chests maybe :P 12:26 moltenbot Calinou's link: Show the contents of the locked chest only to the owner ? a0ba7cf ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 12:26 KikaRz Going to windows. 12:26 Calinou like, "locked_chest_read" setting 12:26 KikaRz Linux its too hard for me 12:26 Calinou KikaRz: closing my windows! 12:26 KikaRz ? 12:26 Calinou it is not, linux is easier to use than windows, has no shitstrictions and is free 12:26 KikaRz not that 12:27 Calinou my OS is an "ultimate" edition, not a "starter" or "home" one 12:27 Calinou any linux distro is 12:27 KikaRz ... 12:27 KikaRz Calinou 12:27 KikaRz What i mean is: I can't install the drivers properly, and the games are with low FPS (3/4/5 FPS) 12:27 KikaRz like Minetest, Minecraft... etc 12:27 KikaRz all that use OpenGL 12:28 Calinou file-roller, I am disappoint 12:28 Calinou can't you understand my CPU has 8 threads? 12:28 Calinou it only uses one ;-; 12:29 * Calinou just extracted a 590MB .tar.bz2 file 12:29 PilzAdam Sauerbraten? 12:35 sapier :-) food or engine? 12:36 Calinou changelog updated 12:36 Calinou sapier: game 12:36 Calinou sauerbraten is a game not an engine, the engine is cube 2 :P 12:36 sapier btw I recommend using b3d model format as minetests default mesh format it's size is way smaller than .x 12:36 Calinou wait 12:37 Calinou i don't have any floppies 12:37 Calinou I have a 64GB USB drive 12:37 Calinou please don't make it full 12:37 PilzAdam sapier, pull request it 12:37 Calinou :P 12:37 Calinou b3d sucks at minetest 12:37 Calinou .x works fine 12:37 sapier @calinou are you sure? i thought engine was called sauerbraten 12:37 sapier .x sucks way more even small models with animation >250kb 12:38 Calinou sapier: yes, I am 12:38 sapier pilzadam b3d is already supported 12:38 Zeg9 b3d is used in STK too 12:38 Calinou we support any format irrlicht supports, no? 12:39 Calinou Zeg9: STK has one of the worst engines /me has even seen :p 12:39 PilzAdam sapier, pull request it to minetest_game 12:39 sapier according to wikipedia its "sauerbraten game engine" while game is called "Cube 2: Dauerbraten" 12:39 Zeg9 Calinou, for a karting game, it's a great engine :p 12:39 sapier -D +S 12:39 Zeg9 I haven't looked at the source code though... 12:40 Calinou Zeg9: the physics make me vomit frame pointers 12:40 Calinou the graphics engine is very weak, and the art sucks: P 12:40 Calinou good art is very hard to make though 12:40 Calinou and GIMP still isn't the best at texturing 12:41 Zeg9 Their physics are still better than our :P 12:41 Calinou heh 12:41 sapier pilzadam I don't understand pull what to minetest_game? 12:41 Calinou we could have better ones, just reduce friction/acceleration and remove air control if you want something realistic :P 12:41 PilzAdam convert the .x to whatever you want 12:42 sapier I haven't had a look at minetest_game .x files I was talking about mobfs ones. And to let others know what I have already discovered 12:42 Zeg9 Saying that, it's true that in STK I often drived into water and ended up in the sky, Calinou XD 12:42 Calinou still better than bugrigs :D 12:43 PilzAdam sapier, havent you talked about the default model? 12:43 Zeg9 [Poll] What do you think is the longer ? Generate a map with onomatopoeia or send it to a remote server with my great connection ? 12:44 sapier not quite exactly but it applies to it too 12:45 sapier default character.x is 296 kb character.b3d would be 72kb 12:46 PilzAdam sapier, then pull request the character.b3d to minetest_game 12:46 sapier puuuuhhh ... that'll take far more time than creating it but I'll do 12:47 PilzAdam then delete the old character.x and change player.lua to fit the changes 12:49 sapier yes but It'll still need some testing, I've just done basic tests with b3d for mobf 12:50 PilzAdam sure 12:52 devlab what does the technic obsidian do? 12:56 kaeza can't tell if spammer or just stupid: http://minetest.net/forum/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=3339 12:56 moltenbot kaeza's link: Posts by alessio (Page 1) - Minetest Forums 12:56 kaeza s/stupid/too lazy to read/ 12:57 devlab he didn't see 'whitelisted' 13:03 Calinou default character.x is 296 kb character.b3d would be 72kb => you spent about 15 minutes for that, yet downloading that file 100 times would take less time :P 13:03 Zeg9 Was playing STK, back 13:04 sapier calinou it doesn't matter if you do have only character.x but if you have 10 other meshes rangeing from 300kb to >700kb it DOES matter 13:05 Zeg9 Also, we wouldn't use microsoft's format anymore :p 13:06 sapier zeg9; that isn't an argument ;-), startup times are a big argument in my oppinion 13:06 Zeg9 Yeah, that's just joking. 13:07 Calinou ask irrlicht devs to add .iqm support 13:07 Calinou then tell all the debian rusty users to use *buntus 13:07 Zeg9 .blend support 13:07 sapier b3d is blizzard ... don't know if its better :-) 13:07 Calinou ??? 13:07 Calinou PROFIT 13:07 Zeg9 .blend are really huge files :D 13:08 sapier I've tried md2 too but couldn't get blender to produce propper files 13:08 sapier 3ds doesn't have animation 13:08 Calinou md2 is so 1997 13:08 Calinou md3 is so 1999 13:08 Calinou md5 is so 2003 13:08 sapier and .obj animation is creating a separate obj file for each frame 13:08 Zeg9 Yeah, .obj doesn't have animation 13:09 Calinou sauerbraten maps can be exported to .obj format :P 13:09 Calinou but you can import it in blender then convert it to .x 13:09 Zeg9 BZFlag maps can be exported to .obj 13:09 Zeg9 Ok, I go away xD 13:10 sapier what I can't tell is if dae dmf or ms3d might be even better that b3d as i didn't find a way to create those mesh formats 13:10 PilzAdam sapier, can you import .b3d to blender? 13:11 sapier pilzadam no it's one-way as .x 13:11 Calinou noone made an importer for it, that means :P 13:11 Zeg9 .x is two way ! 13:11 Calinou but it is possible probably 13:11 Zeg9 but the importer is a WIP iirc 13:11 sapier working b3d exporter is hard to find too ... the one from supertuxcart is working with blender 2.63 13:12 Calinou 2.65 is latest, and blender breaks everything every release... 13:13 sapier zeg9 are you sure? my blender version can't import .x 13:13 Zeg9 sapier, you have to find it in addons 13:13 sapier yes so did I to enable the exporter but even if enabled i can't import .x 13:14 Zeg9 Yeah you also need to enable the importer 13:14 Zeg9 let me find it again 13:14 Zeg9 In "supported levels" you need to check "testing" 13:15 Zeg9 Wait, I can't find it anymore 13:16 sapier i still can't import but i don't need it anyway 13:16 Zeg9 sapier, I remember there was one but I don't remember how I enabled it anyway it wouldn't be useful 13:16 sapier maybe there's a import addon out there somewhere 13:16 sapier i doubt there's one for b3d 13:17 thexyz Zeg9: have you uploaded your map to server yet? 13:17 Zeg9 thexyz, it's uploading, around 35% 13:17 thexyz ok 13:17 Zeg9 With my great upload speed... 13:18 Zeg9 o_O 13:18 Zeg9 Wait, I'll upload it as .zip, it should be faster 13:23 Calinou .tar.xz ftw 13:25 Zeg9 Yeah but I don't think there is .tar.xz in php 13:25 Zeg9 Anyway, I upload it as .zip because there are a lot of files, not because they are big 13:26 thexyz don't you have shell access to your server? 13:26 Zeg9 No, it's just a free http hosting 13:27 Zeg9 I don't know what will be the speed of the map but at least it won't ruin my bandwidth ;) 13:27 Zeg9 And it should be better than 90KB/s 13:49 TB|Vibe-X hi all :) 14:26 jojoa1997 is it possible to have two people share a post 14:29 Zeg9 No why 14:30 jojoa1997 me and luk3yx are co makers of a mod and i just updated it 14:30 jojoa1997 but he has to add it to topic 14:31 markveidemanis on my server, i have protected skycity - if anyone has a house there, please tell me where so i can add you as the owner 14:31 Calinou use a github repo, or a shared dropbox folder 14:31 Zeg9 You need to wait for him. But during that you should just "reply" to the topic 14:32 markveidemanis Anyone? 14:32 jojoa1997 yep i am the one with the repo. i did reply 14:32 markveidemanis jojoa 14:32 markveidemanis there is a new protection mod on the server 14:32 jojoa1997 yeah 14:32 jojoa1997 i know 14:32 jojoa1997 OldCoder you there 14:32 markveidemanis use /set_owner 14:33 markveidemanis and /add_owner " " 14:33 jojoa1997 i requested that 14:33 markveidemanis i did too lol 14:39 Jabama Wrong game nick. o.o 14:42 TB|Vibe-X OP, are you here? 14:43 jojoa1997 can you make a tool's maxlevel=3.5 14:43 jojoa1997 would it do anything different 14:45 jojoa1997 nvm' 14:46 OP hi 14:46 OP im markveidemanis, testing irssi 14:47 markveidemanis how do i list users 14:47 markveidemanis OP 14:47 OP what? 14:47 markveidemanis how to list them? 14:47 OP I DONT KNOW! 14:47 markveidemanis lol 14:47 markveidemanis OP, you have to go now 14:47 iqualfragile markveidemanis: list what? 14:47 markveidemanis users in irssi 14:48 markveidemanis lol that was me in another client 14:48 iqualfragile i know 14:48 iqualfragile you had the same ip 14:48 markveidemanis yep 14:49 OP pp 14:49 OP how do i list them? 14:49 OP i am in terminal 14:50 OldCoder jojoa1997, Yes I am here 14:50 OldCoder Woke up at 3:15am today 14:50 jojoa1997 you want to go three way with markv 14:50 OldCoder When he wishes; one of you PM me 14:50 iqualfragile OldCoder: me too, but pm -.- 14:51 OldCoder iqualfragile, I have PMd 14:51 iqualfragile oh, no, i meant i woke up at 3:15 pm 14:51 iqualfragile (thats ~20 minutes ago) 14:52 jojoa1997 lol marktwains initials were mt 14:56 kaeza hello everyone 14:56 kaeza screenie: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_187603648.jpg 14:56 kaeza jojoa1997: ^ 14:56 jojoa1997 O.O 14:56 kaeza I could spawn ~30 before game crashed ^_^ 14:57 markveidemanis kaeza 14:57 kaeza that just shows some of them 14:57 markveidemanis what can i do with a terminal-based IRC program 14:57 kaeza uhhh... chat? 14:58 markveidemanis can you forward the log from a server to a client in chat? 14:58 OP me! 14:58 kaeza not everything 14:58 OP to me 14:59 jojoa1997 kaeza it only spawns in five spots but let the disperse then you see them all 14:59 kaeza markveidemanis: I'm making a separate mod for that 14:59 markveidemanis really? 15:00 markveidemanis :D 15:00 markveidemanis YAY 15:00 kaeza what do you need forwarded? 15:00 markveidemanis server log 15:00 markveidemanis forward to client "OP" 15:00 kaeza I can log most things (place/dig/chat) 15:00 kaeza s/log/forward/ 15:01 markveidemanis invoked commands? 15:01 kaeza maybe 15:02 kaeza everything typed in the chat window can be logged 15:02 kaeza also place/dig nodes 15:02 markveidemanis can it be sent to a client? 15:02 kaeza yup 15:02 markveidemanis but so the client can filter 15:02 kaeza as PMs 15:02 markveidemanis filter, chat, dig/place 15:02 markveidemanis grant, 15:03 jojoa1997 who wants to try out xhands 15:03 PilzAdam jojoa1997, why do I need xhands when I have creative? 15:03 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/xhands 15:03 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: jojoa1997/xhands ? GitHub 15:04 kaeza markveidemanis: that will be for later; for now, I fixed that annoying delay on connecting 15:04 markveidemanis delay? 15:05 kaeza waiting for the MOTD 15:05 markveidemanis do you have that mod done? 15:09 kaeza IMHO the poll feature of the forums is being abused 15:09 kaeza http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4338 15:09 moltenbot kaeza's link: Gui Pictures for Minetest (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 15:10 jojoa1997 for coding if i use "for" do i need an "end" for it 15:11 PilzAdam jojoa1997, sure 15:11 Zeg9 kaeza: I agree 15:12 kaeza I think it should be moved to a different page 15:13 kaeza or better yet, don't allow users to make polls until they have a certain amount of posts 15:13 PilzAdam kaeza, I like the poll feature because it makes my life easier (decide what feature to add to mt_game) 15:13 kaeza PilzAdam: I understand your point, but some users are just making nonsense polls 15:13 Zeg9 Require 204 posts to make polls 15:15 PilzAdam kaeza, I just dont care about useless polls, why would you need to disable them? 15:15 kaeza not disable them entirely 15:15 PilzAdam I mean, If users make useless polls, then just let them do that 15:15 PilzAdam who cares? 15:16 kaeza ooook 15:26 jojoa1997 gtg bbl 15:26 Zeg9 bye 15:29 Zeg9 lol kaeza 15:29 Zeg9 "What means abusing?" nvm 15:30 kaeza yeah 15:30 kaeza should I post a *proper* response? 15:30 kaeza nah 15:30 Obiewan1111 Ah sh*t. 15:30 Obiewan1111 Chelsea are down. 15:30 Obiewan1111 Rage quits everything. 15:31 kaeza dafuq 15:37 jojoa1997 help 15:38 jojoa1997 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1499908/ 15:38 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 15:38 kaeza jojoa1997: ? 15:38 jojoa1997 unexpected symbol near '}' 15:38 jojoa1997 the last "}" 15:39 kaeza ... 15:39 kaeza f-i-x-y-o-u-r-i-n-d-e-n-t-a-t-i-o-n 15:40 PilzAdam jojoa1997, your indentation is messed up 15:40 jojoa1997 how? 15:40 sapier make blanks and tabs grouping if/else while etc 15:40 kaeza jojoa1997: do you really think that code is readable? 15:40 PilzAdam read defaults and builtings Lua code to see how its done correctly 15:41 PilzAdam *builtin's 15:41 jojoa1997 k 15:41 jojoa1997 brb 15:41 sapier there ain't a single right solution but yours is wrong for sure ;-) 15:42 kaeza mixing tabs and spaces == bad idea 15:42 kaeza that's one of the nice features of python IMHO 15:42 sapier depends what you call "mixing" minetest uses tab for prefix whitespacing and spaces for anything else 15:43 kaeza I mean for indentation 15:43 kaeza either use tabs, *or* space 15:43 kaeza +s 15:43 sapier true 15:43 kaeza but not both 15:46 jojoa1997 i use only tabs 15:46 sapier but they don't match the code blocks you have 15:47 kaeza jojoa1997: wrong 15:47 kaeza lines 4&5 use spaces 15:48 sapier for example after a "function(parameters)" line any code is one tab deeper until the corresponding "end" occurs 15:48 sapier same to "if" .... "end" 15:48 * kaeza is a bit bitchy 15:48 kaeza :P 15:48 jojoa1997 did i massacre the code? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1499939/ 15:48 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 15:48 kaeza ... 15:49 kaeza where do I start? 15:49 sapier where are you from jojoa? 15:49 jojoa1997 pluto ;) 15:49 PilzAdam jojoa1997, dont split the else and the if 15:49 jojoa1997 k 15:50 PilzAdam elseif active_npc_count >= MAX_SPAWN then 15:50 PilzAdam here you go 15:50 jojoa1997 so it is all one line 15:50 PilzAdam yep 15:50 kaeza inb4 line 11 contains PilzAdam's code :P 15:51 jojoa1997 is this part wrong 15:51 jojoa1997 function spawn_for_command(name, param) 15:51 PilzAdam no 15:51 PilzAdam but an local would help keeping the global namespace clea 15:51 jojoa1997 do i need 15:51 jojoa1997 local pos = player:getpos() 15:51 PilzAdam *clean 15:51 PilzAdam local is recommended 15:52 jojoa1997 make the func local? 15:52 PilzAdam func = spawn_for_command 15:52 jojoa1997 oh 15:52 Obiewan1111 Anyone remotely interested in British football? 15:52 kaeza jojoa1997: lines 24-25: wat 15:52 PilzAdam and: 15:52 PilzAdam local function spawn_for_command(name, param) 15:52 kaeza nope 15:52 jojoa1997 local func = spawn_for_command 15:52 LandMine Football? U mean soccer? 15:53 PilzAdam jojoa1997, no, dont put the local there 15:53 jojoa1997 i didnt 15:53 Obiewan1111 Are you being serious LandMine? 15:53 jojoa1997 we posted same time 15:53 LandMine of course 15:53 jojoa1997 are all the locals in the function needed 15:53 OldCoder Football is soccer in many parts of the world 15:54 PilzAdam jojoa1997, yea 15:54 jojoa1997 k 15:54 jojoa1997 how about the if for stuff that right 15:54 PilzAdam if active_npc_count == nil then has a missing "end" 15:55 PilzAdam and (as said above) bring that elseif in one line 15:55 jojoa1997 dammit it never stays 15:55 jojoa1997 i always delete it 15:55 LandMine Obiewan1111 beside britsh don't know how to play 15:55 LandMine Damm he lft 15:55 kaeza jojoa1997: if you indent the code correctly you can find most of these trivial errors for yourself 15:56 jojoa1997 k 15:56 PilzAdam jojoa1997, protip: http://www.lua.org/pil/ 15:56 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Programming in Lua 15:56 LandMine Kaeza jojoa1997 pilzadam please move this chat to #minetest-mods thanks 15:56 kaeza how about no? 15:57 PilzAdam LandMine, why? 15:57 kaeza btw hi LandMine 15:57 LandMine Because it would be the best thing to do pilzadam 15:57 LandMine Its not an order 15:57 LandMine But a suggestion 15:57 PilzAdam the -mods channel is dead and this channel is used to talk about mods too 15:57 LandMine You might 15:58 LandMine Ok ;-) 15:59 jojoa1997 ok so far the mod loaded 16:00 NekoGloop -mods is deprecated and exists purely for backwards compatibility. 16:00 PilzAdam hello NekoGloop 16:00 LandMine Nekogloop mind ur own buisness 16:00 kaeza hey Neko 16:00 NekoGloop hai guise :3 16:02 kaeza jojoa1997: so? 16:02 jojoa1997 nope 16:02 kaeza works? 16:02 kaeza k 16:02 kaeza code? 16:02 jojoa1997 first error 16:02 * VanessaE wanders in, takes one of NekoGloop's kittens, and puts it on LandMine's head. 16:02 jojoa1997 attempt to index local 'player'(a nil value) 16:03 VanessaE good morning 16:03 PilzAdam heh 16:03 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 16:03 kaeza o hai VanessaE 16:03 NekoGloop no need to soil the kitten's underside. 16:03 jojoa1997 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1499982/ 16:03 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 16:03 PilzAdam jojoa1997, func = spawn_for_command, 16:03 PilzAdam nothing else 16:05 jojoa1997 nope 16:05 jojoa1997 it says = expected near end but there is nothing to = 16:05 kaeza pastebin? 16:05 NekoGloop func is not valid if you are putting it in place of function() 16:05 kaeza inb4 you forgot the comma 16:06 jojoa1997 this right 16:06 jojoa1997 func = function spawn_for_command 16:06 PilzAdam no 16:06 PilzAdam thats wrong 16:06 jojoa1997 didnt think so 16:06 NekoGloop commas are everything in lua :P 16:06 LandMine Hmmm 16:06 kaeza lol yeah :P 16:06 PilzAdam its func = spawn_for_command 16:06 LandMine Hmmm wanna rap battle? 16:06 VanessaE NekoGloop: I thought you had your kittek generator set for "Scotch Brite" mode? 16:07 kaeza kittek? 16:07 VanessaE kitten* 16:07 NekoGloop VanessaE: No, i set it to "cute and fluffy, idc what it is" :3 16:07 VanessaE oh, right 16:07 jojoa1997 \o/ test time 16:07 * VanessaE tweaks the setting, generates another kitten, and replaces the soiled one on LandMine's head. 16:08 LandMine Vanessae stop trying to get my attention....I'm taken geeesh :-) 16:08 jojoa1997 kitty 16:08 * kaeza codes an ABM: neighbors={"human:head",action=put_kittehs} 16:09 kaeza whatever, I suck at ABMs :P 16:09 VanessaE interval=1, chance=1 16:10 VanessaE ;) 16:10 kaeza lol that was what I missed 16:10 NekoGloop also action is outside of the neighbors 16:10 kaeza (excluding the very obvious syntax error) 16:10 VanessaE plus you forgot to set nodenames= 16:10 VanessaE so your abm will never execute :) 16:10 kaeza ninja'd 16:10 * Jordach walks in 16:11 * Jordach is bemused in what VanessaE said 16:11 * VanessaE puts a kitten on Jordach's head. 16:11 * Jordach meows 16:11 jojoa1997 i summoned 20 :( 16:11 * NekoGloop burp 16:12 kaeza jojoa1997: so? 16:12 jojoa1997 the limit was 15 16:12 jojoa1997 .code http://paste.ubuntu.com/1500014/ 16:12 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 16:12 kaeza if active_npc_count <= MAX_SPAWN then 16:12 kaeza active_npc_count = 0 16:12 kaeza ??? 16:12 kaeza (the other way around) 16:13 jojoa1997 if active_npc_count == nil then active_npc_count = 0 end 16:13 jojoa1997 that stops nil error 16:13 jojoa1997 one sec 16:14 FreeFull Does minetest still generate those awesome super-tall mountains? 16:14 kaeza jojoa1997: line 12: you are checking the wrong var 16:14 NekoGloop FreeFull: I think so 16:14 NekoGloop Ones that you could jump off of and die of fall damage about a third of the way down? 16:15 markveidemanis hi 16:15 markveidemanis how do i switch windows in irssi 16:15 FreeFull NekoGloop: I'm thinking any mountain that goes above cloud layer 16:16 FreeFull Anyway, minetest doesn't give you fall damage right now unless you hit the ground 16:16 NekoGloop FreeFull: Usually play with clouds off :P 16:16 FreeFull Cloud layer is at 100 16:16 NekoGloop And i know, it's just that if you landed at that point you'd die :D 16:16 jojoa1997 kaeza what is the right var 16:16 FreeFull Well, unless you fall in water =p 16:16 NekoGloop True 16:16 kaeza NekoGloop: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1538663744.jpg 16:17 jojoa1997 oh 16:18 kaeza jojoa1997: think: what is the var that is "counting" the *current* number of the NPC? 16:18 jojoa1997 i have to add something 16:18 kaeza no 16:18 FreeFull I've been fruitlessly trying to find one by constantly moving east 16:18 FreeFull Hit 3200 already 16:19 jojoa1997 if active_npc_count + npcs_to_spawn <= MAX_SPAWN then 16:19 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on FreeFull's head 16:20 * FreeFull pets the kitten 16:20 thexyz Zeg9: any progress? 16:20 jojoa1997 is this possible 16:20 jojoa1997 elseif active_npc_count + npcs_to_spawn >= MAX_SPAWN + 1 then 16:20 Zeg9 Not really, I had to restart it many time 16:20 Zeg9 many times* 16:20 jojoa1997 for me? 16:20 Zeg9 No, thexyz 16:20 Zeg9 thexyz, it's at 74% of the current upload... 16:21 Zeg9 It says 13 minutes remaining 16:21 Zeg9 Last time, it crashed around 90% :( 16:21 thexyz crashed? 16:21 Zeg9 Timed out or something. 16:21 thexyz aww 16:23 kaeza jojoa1997: ??? 16:24 PilzAdam thexyz, according to this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62091 I will push this rightclick to open doors patch 16:24 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: [Poll | Finished] Open/Close Doors (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 16:24 jojoa1997 it works 16:24 kaeza FreeFull: like these? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1935471382.jpg 16:24 thexyz PilzAdam: k 16:24 kaeza PilzAdam: +1 16:24 FreeFull kaeza: No 16:24 FreeFull Way bigger 16:24 thexyz don't forget about apple 16:25 NekoGloop apple would need on_rightclick to be able to be tied to items as well 16:25 NekoGloop inb4 it is already 16:25 kaeza FreeFull: I could upload my entire collection of tall mountain screenies, but my connection is bitchy today :/ 16:25 VanessaE today? 16:25 kaeza would* 16:25 kaeza -.- 16:25 FreeFull kaeza: Has to be at least 100 blocks tall 16:25 VanessaE isn't that word a little redundant? 16:26 FreeFull Preferably bigger 16:26 Jordach FreeFull, remember the 0.3.x / 0.2.x mountains? 16:26 kaeza thanks VanessaE for reminding me of my crappy connection 16:26 FreeFull Jordach: Yeah 16:26 FreeFull Those were cool 16:26 VanessaE I was just kidding :-) 16:26 FreeFull Although I never played 0.2.x 16:26 kaeza :P 16:26 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Open/close doors with rightclick 686c0d087c 2013-01-05T08:25:19-08:00 16:26 FreeFull The 0.3.x terrain was awesome 16:26 jojoa1997 what do yall say for adding a tool that instint kills npc 16:27 kaeza Jordach: any screenies handy? 16:27 kaeza (preferably in 1x1 and in JPG :P 16:27 Jordach gimme a few mins 16:28 kaeza jojoa1997: have you fixed you current code yet? 16:28 FreeFull I played on one server that had a huge mountain, it also had a wall around the area where people were supposed to remain 16:28 jojoa1997 yep but have to edit wont let me spawn 15 16:29 kaeza then wait until you fix this 16:29 kaeza copypasta is no programming teacher 16:29 jojoa1997 fix what 16:29 kaeza (14:25:43) jojoa1997: yep but have to edit wont let me spawn 15 16:29 kaeza that ^ 16:29 FreeFull I don't remember if it was before or after deserts 16:30 jojoa1997 i know what to do 16:30 kaeza then do it :) 16:30 jojoa1997 i did testing 16:31 sapier does anyone know a nice book about computer programming in jojoas native language? no offense jojoa but you need to learn the basics prior doing complex stuff 16:32 NekoGloop No you dont 16:32 sapier you're a smart guy you'll get it done quickly but you have to do it 16:32 NekoGloop Take me as an example :P 16:32 markveidemanis i want to compile ircll but i get an error 16:32 markveidemanis make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mark/irc/source' rm -f count.c lex count.l make[1]: lex: Command not found make[1]: *** [count.c] Error 127 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mark/irc/source' make: *** [irc] Error 2 16:32 kaeza jojoa1997: basically what I told you: learn to walk before you can run 16:32 PilzAdam since we have now doors that are opened/closed with a righclick we can change the bucket to be used with an rightclick too 16:32 Zeg9 thexyz, 96% of uploading - hope it won't crash and the unzip thing will work 16:32 jojoa1997 ok it works but one prob 16:32 PilzAdam what do you think? 16:32 markveidemanis ... 16:32 markveidemanis ; 16:32 kaeza markveidemanis: sudo apt-get install lex 16:33 markveidemanis k 16:33 kaeza flex* 16:33 jojoa1997 the server says "The spawn limit is 15" for every npc if you type a numbre over the limiy 16:33 Zeg9 PilzAdam, maybe pick water with left and put water with right ? 16:33 sapier yes everyone thinks he can fly before walking but afer some time you discover it'd be way faster if you did it right order ;-) 16:33 PilzAdam Zeg9, that could work 16:34 sapier did you use a global variable for spawn limit jojoa? 16:34 jojoa1997 how do i make it say that only once 16:34 jojoa1997 The spawn limit is 15 16:34 jojoa1997 no would interfere withother limits 16:34 NekoGloop PilzAdam: First, make it so items/tools *have* a rightclick callback 16:34 kaeza jojoa1997: if we say it we will be making the mod for you :) 16:34 jojoa1997 nvm your right 16:34 Zeg9 NekoGloop, they have, it is called on place 16:34 PilzAdam NekoGloop, they have it since forever 16:35 markveidemanis make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mark/irc/source' rm -f count.c lex count.l mv -f lex.yy.c count.c gcc -o count -O count.c /tmp/ccZpGuvc.o: In function `yylex': count.c:(.text+0xcf5): undefined reference to `yywrap' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [count] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mark/irc/source' make: *** [irc] Error 2 16:35 jojoa1997 is it in the api though 16:35 NekoGloop on_place requires you to be pointing at something 16:35 kaeza markveidemanis: p-a-s-t-e-b-i-n 16:35 PilzAdam NekoGloop, not really, no 16:35 markveidemanis ok 16:35 NekoGloop Which for liquid is not always the case 16:35 sapier make sure your code is correct befor blaming api ;-) 16:35 NekoGloop PilzAdam: Yes it does 16:35 PilzAdam NekoGloop, and you do have to point a liquid to pick them up 16:36 jojoa1997 i dont blame api 16:36 PilzAdam NekoGloop, trust me, pointed_thing.type can be "none" 16:36 sapier sorry missunderstood you 16:36 markveidemanis http://pastebin.com/9apzfWXj 16:36 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mark/irc/source' rm -f count.c lex count.l - Pastebin.com 16:36 Jordach kaeza, couldnt find any but: http://imgur.com/a/QshVo 16:36 moltenbot Jordach's link: Photo Album - Imgur 16:36 NekoGloop PilzAdam: You will see soon enough that if you arent pointing at something, on_place is not called. Period. 16:36 Zeg9 thexyz, I give up - the .zip magically disappeared. 16:36 kaeza markveidemanis: checking 16:37 markveidemanis kaeza: can you join #mtmt 16:37 markveidemanis its *quiet* there 16:37 kaeza Jordach: thanks 16:37 kaeza (if it ever loads that is) :P 16:37 Jordach kaeza, dont expect much 16:37 Jordach there were a few hills tho 16:37 NekoGloop For buckets your idea is great. What about guns, or food. 16:38 NekoGloop on_place would require me to look at a suface to eat 16:38 NekoGloop Which is just ew. 16:38 NekoGloop Or shooting, which is even more redundant. If i'm looking at something, chances are that i wont hit my target. 16:39 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62095 16:39 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: [Poll] Buckets (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 16:39 PilzAdam Vote now! 16:39 NekoGloop PilzAdam: See above 16:40 kaeza Jordach: those hills are just pretteh 16:40 NekoGloop PilzAdam: You forgot the actual poll. 16:40 PilzAdam poll fixed: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4340 16:40 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: [Poll] Buckets (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 16:41 PilzAdam (it had only 3 options before) 16:41 NekoGloop I'm 100% of the votes :D 16:41 PilzAdam not anymore 16:41 NekoGloop As i said, for buckets your idea is great. 16:42 NekoGloop What about eating with rightclick. You'd have to look at a solid surface to eat. 16:43 PilzAdam NekoGloop, oh, yes, I forgot that there was some strange behaviour of on_place(), sorry 16:43 NekoGloop PilzAdam: But yes, buckets can implement that perfectly. 16:44 FreeFull So I flew high up and made my v_range huge 16:44 NekoGloop Besides, it's on_place = function() :P 16:44 FreeFull And my conclusion is that the current minetest terrain generator generates essencially flat terrain 16:44 FreeFull I don't see anything above 50 16:45 NekoGloop FreeFull: Hate to give out details but my modpack will have something of a solution. 16:47 FreeFull I have a feeling it has to do with an adjustment that was meant to eliminate floating islands 16:48 NekoGloop Most likely. 16:49 jojoa1997 how is this for my NPC Instakill http://ompldr.org/vZ3llMw/peaceful_npc_npc_instakill.png 16:50 FreeFull I'm going to download 0.3.x 16:50 FreeFull For exploratory purposes 16:51 jojoa1997 well what do you think 16:54 Jordach FreeFull, :D 16:57 FreeFull Building 16:59 celeron55 http://apina.biz/93286.png 16:59 moltenbot celeron55's link: http://apina.biz/93286.png 16:59 celeron55 (oh don't mind the other images) 16:59 FreeFull XD 17:00 celeron55 https://twitter.com/notch/statuses/287440874902806528 <- better link 17:00 moltenbot celeron55's link: Twitter / notch: So I tried this Omegle thing. ... 17:01 FreeFull /home/freefull/minetest/0.3.x/src/content_cao.cpp:907:60: error: cannot allocate an object of abstract type ‘irr::scene::MyBillboardSceneNode’ 17:01 FreeFull Yay 17:02 Kacey hello 17:04 Jordach celeron55, we dont wish to know yer dirty habits :P 17:04 * Jordach also saw this on Twitter a few hours ago 17:05 FreeFull Wtf do I do now ): I want to play 0.3.x 17:06 PilzAdam fix it? 17:07 NekoGloop Use windows? :? 17:07 PilzAdam can you compile 0.3.x for him? 17:07 davidpace Hello 17:08 NekoGloop Me? Lol? 17:08 NekoGloop I cant even compile for *me* properly. 17:08 Kacey lol 17:08 PilzAdam then using windows isnt recommended 17:08 NekoGloop Let alone cross compile for some random linux distro 17:08 NekoGloop PilzAdam: No, this is my own incompetence. 17:09 NekoGloop :3 17:09 Kacey https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.3.1-win32.zip 17:09 FreeFull I think irrlicht might have changed 17:09 PilzAdam Kacey, thats 0.3.1 not 0.3.x 17:09 FreeFull Let me try compiling 0.3.1 and seeing if that works 17:09 Kacey that is precompiled 17:10 kaeza back 17:10 NekoGloop 0.3.x == {0.3.1, ...} 17:10 Kacey http://c55.me/minetest/oldsite/packages/win32/minetest-0.3.0-win32.zip 17:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, youre here? 17:10 Kacey http://c55.me/minetest/oldsite/packages/win32/minetest-0.0.1-win32-110214104633.zip enjoy 17:11 NekoGloop heh. 17:11 kaeza what? 17:11 kaeza the first version? 17:12 kaeza (one of) 17:15 kaeza that's the version where cobblestone grew in trees right? lol 17:15 Kacey lol i should make a server for it\ 17:20 kaeza lol according to 0gb.us, i'm a 'She' now 17:20 kaeza (actually, my nick may be a bit ambiguous):P 17:21 Kacey mine too 17:21 ecube ._. 17:21 * Kacey is reading c55's blog 17:22 * kaeza is playing a C64 emu 17:22 Zeg9 PilzAdam, is it intentional that the door can only be open/closed from the top node? 17:22 Zeg9 The bottom still uses left click :S 17:23 kaeza s/playing/using/ 17:23 PilzAdam Zeg9, no, works fine for me 17:23 Zeg9 Weird 17:23 Zeg9 For me, the top opens with right click, bottom with left 17:24 PilzAdam is it on a server? 17:24 Zeg9 No, singleplayer 17:24 Zeg9 And I don't have any door mod 17:25 PilzAdam repull minetest_game 17:26 Zeg9 I searched in doors/init.lua and there is no on_punch 17:26 PilzAdam strange 17:27 Zeg9 Here is my mod list: 17:27 Zeg9 http://ompldr.org/vZ3lmMg 17:29 Zeg9 I'll try on another world, wait 17:30 Zeg9 Oh, I think I know 17:33 Zeg9 PilzAdam, one mod is causing that, trying to find which... 17:33 PilzAdam does it depend on the wielditem? 17:33 Zeg9 No. 17:34 Zeg9 Only the top is open with right click, bottom with left. I'll try to find out which mod does this. 17:34 Zeg9 ...it is mesecons 17:34 PilzAdam try vanilla game 17:34 Zeg9 I tried vanilla game. It works there 17:34 Zeg9 grep door $(find ~/.minetest/mods/minetest) 17:34 PilzAdam oh, yes, mesecons override doors to add the mesecon functionality IIRC 17:35 Zeg9 It's in mesecons_compatibility 17:37 markveidemanis come to #mtmt 17:37 markveidemanis and help... 17:38 Calinou why? 17:41 PilzAdam Calinou, move this to Discussions in other Languages: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62097 17:41 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: My channel (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 17:51 Zeg9 zegbot, leave this channel 17:51 jakssoul Hellooo. 17:51 Zeg9 Hi 17:51 jakssoul How's it going? 17:52 Kacey ooh hai 17:52 Kacey how do i kill a player with a command? 17:52 jakssoul /kill 17:52 Kacey what is the code to do that? 17:52 jakssoul Kidding. I don't know. 17:52 PilzAdam /givme default:sword_steel 17:52 jakssoul YES! 17:52 jakssoul Very nice, PilzAdam. 17:52 PilzAdam *giveme 17:53 Calinou Kacey: there is none in defaul game :P 17:53 Kacey no i mena i am making a /suicide command and i need it to kill the player 17:53 Kacey mean* 17:53 PilzAdam player:set_hp(0) 17:53 PilzAdam or: 17:54 PilzAdam minetest.env:set_node(player:getpos(), {name = "default:lava_source"}) 17:54 Calinou we should have one, made an issue about it a few seconds ago 17:54 Kacey haha 17:55 kasutaja hi 17:55 RagnarLaud hi :D 17:55 Zeg9 Hi 17:55 RagnarLaud oh yo zeg 17:55 RagnarLaud long time no see huh? 17:56 RagnarLaud i was with my family the time i wasnt online LD 17:56 Kacey init.lua:20: attempt to index global 'player' (a nil value) 17:56 RagnarLaud :D* 17:56 RagnarLaud it couldnt merge the player 17:56 RagnarLaud Kacey 17:56 PilzAdam Kacey, you need to get a player reference 17:56 RagnarLaud idk how to fix it, its something that i remembered c55 say 17:56 RagnarLaud hi PilzAdam 17:56 RagnarLaud >D 17:56 RagnarLaud :D 17:57 Kacey maybe if i delete the player: part 17:57 PilzAdam hey RagnarLaud 17:57 * RagnarLaud is happy to be back 17:57 PilzAdam Kacey, that wont work 17:57 PilzAdam you need to get a player reference 17:57 RagnarLaud fuck i freaking hate my mouse -.- 17:57 RagnarLaud its wire is broken 17:57 RagnarLaud hey adam 17:58 RagnarLaud can you help me with a small lua/api thingy? 17:58 PilzAdam maybe 17:58 Kacey minetest.set_hp(0) 17:58 RagnarLaud it sets the hp to (nr) 17:58 Kacey nope 17:59 PilzAdam Kacey, I say it one more time: You need to get a player reference 17:59 RagnarLaud PilzAdam, do you know how to make a crafting recipe that works in a node/crafting table/coffee maker im making? 18:00 Kacey minetest.set_player_hp(0) 18:00 Kacey if not i will find someething 18:00 RagnarLaud it sets the players hp to (nr) 18:00 RagnarLaud Kacey 18:00 PilzAdam RagnarLaud, depends on how you implement the formspec 18:00 RagnarLaud umm... 18:00 RagnarLaud let me gimp it 18:00 PilzAdam (but thats not a "small thingy") 18:00 Zeg9 RagnarLaud, implement != design 18:00 RagnarLaud ??? 18:01 Kacey i know that it sets the player hp to (#) it is a /suicide command 18:01 PilzAdam I mean the coding side of the formspec 18:01 RagnarLaud wait a sec 18:01 RagnarLaud im away 18:03 RagnarLaud ji john_minetest 18:03 RagnarLaud hi* 18:03 Kacey there's my chatpad lol 18:04 RagnarLaud lol 18:04 RagnarLaud lag much? 18:06 Kacey hi davidpace 18:06 davidpace Hi Kacey. 18:07 RagnarLaud oh hey david 18:07 RagnarLaud :D 18:07 davidpace Hi Ragnar 18:08 Kacey gtg bye 18:13 davidpace Hi markveidemanis. 18:13 markveidemanis hi 18:13 markveidemanis theres a bot competition at #mtmt 18:14 markveidemanis best bots join! 18:14 markveidemanis Minetest-tan... 18:14 markveidemanis ...moltenbot 18:14 PilzAdam markveidemanis, please stop advertising channels or servers 18:15 markveidemanis im not, im just asking to see the best bots 18:25 RagnarLaud hi kaeza 18:26 * RagnarLaud is mouse-less 18:26 RagnarLaud i fucking HATE my mouse :@ 18:27 RagnarLaud lol i guess karma striked me :D 18:27 RagnarLaud it zapped me :D 18:27 RagnarLaud hmm...kinda electricuted :D 18:29 TB|Vibe-X sapier, hey? i saw your mods (cactus, trees), are you using git ? or are your mods downloadable via mediafire only? 18:29 RagnarLaud umm... 18:29 RagnarLaud TB|Vibe-X 18:29 kaeza hi RagnarLaud 18:29 RagnarLaud i could host the mods on my website :D 18:29 RagnarLaud im re-moddeling it 18:30 RagnarLaud and making sub-sites :D 18:30 TB|Vibe-X cactus and tree mod? o.O 18:30 TB|Vibe-X you remoddeling it? 18:30 RagnarLaud if i get them 18:30 RagnarLaud no 18:30 RagnarLaud im re moddeling the website 18:30 RagnarLaud http://hvgaming.bugs3.com 18:30 TB|Vibe-X ah 18:30 TB|Vibe-X what site should that beß 18:31 TB|Vibe-X its not the problem about hosting. im interested in versioning ;) 18:31 RagnarLaud hvgaming.coming_soon ({"Minetraft Mods Section", 18:31 RagnarLaud :D 18:31 Zeg9 RagnarLaud, take a look at the new http://minetest.web1337.net 18:31 moltenbot Zeg9's link: Zeg9's Minetest Server - Home 18:31 RagnarLaud later 18:31 RagnarLaud im mouseless atm 18:31 RagnarLaud :d 18:32 RagnarLaud cant click on your ADVERTISEMENTS!!! 18:32 RagnarLaud xD 18:32 TB|Vibe-X :D 18:32 RagnarLaud hey TB 18:32 TB|Vibe-X im building german minetest server 18:32 TB|Vibe-X minetest.de =) 18:32 RagnarLaud you got any mods you ade? 18:32 RagnarLaud ok? 18:32 TB|Vibe-X but there are so many things to do so far :/ 18:32 RagnarLaud "D 18:32 RagnarLaud how ya gonna get .de? 18:32 TB|Vibe-X jop 18:32 Zeg9 Ragnar, pay 18:32 TB|Vibe-X its mine ;) 18:32 RagnarLaud it isnt free ya know... 18:33 TB|Vibe-X i registred for some day 18:33 TB|Vibe-X i think wednesday ? dont know exactly 18:33 RagnarLaud every month like $5 - $100 / month 18:34 TB|Vibe-X huh? 18:34 TB|Vibe-X what do you mean :D 18:34 Zeg9 Ragnar, he knows... 18:34 RagnarLaud cause here, @ estonia, the .ee domains cost 20-30 euros/month :S 18:34 RagnarLaud so i suggest .bugs3.com 18:34 TB|Vibe-X better using .fm for minetest radio or such crazy shit :D 18:34 RagnarLaud thats WITH hosting :D 18:34 RagnarLaud it costs! 18:34 TB|Vibe-X you better use .com or org 18:34 RagnarLaud you dumbass! 18:35 TB|Vibe-X its cheaper then .ee 18:35 TB|Vibe-X or .eu 18:35 RagnarLaud yeah, no shit! 18:35 TB|Vibe-X o.O 18:35 RagnarLaud but .bugs3.com is...umm....how will i make it clear enought for ya...its...umm...FREE!!! 18:35 RagnarLaud you dumbass 18:35 TB|Vibe-X uhm, kk 18:35 TB|Vibe-X i have own root server so no problems about this :) 18:36 RagnarLaud and its also with free hosting 18:36 RagnarLaud zeg9 18:36 RagnarLaud was it 1GB or 10GB of space? 18:36 RagnarLaud on bugs3 18:36 RagnarLaud wait gonna restart my pc 18:36 RagnarLaud brb 18:36 RagnarLaud bbl 18:36 RagnarLaud what ever :D 18:36 RagnarLaud bye yall 18:38 Zeg9 What a weird guy 18:45 TB|Vibe-X Zeg9, you are right, very strang :D 18:45 markveidemanis hi 18:45 Zeg9 Hi 18:45 MasterBot hi 18:46 markveidemanis hello, MasterBot 18:46 MasterBot Hello markveidemanis 18:46 Zeg9 Hi MasterBot 18:46 Zeg9 It isn't a bot. 18:46 markveidemanis Zeg9, plz help with ZegBot 18:46 MasterBot Hello markveidemanis 18:46 MasterBot Hello Zeg9 18:47 MasterBot hollo 18:47 MasterBot whoops TYPE 18:47 MasterBot TYPO 18:54 NekoGloop the captcha I just got was the longest one EVER 18:54 NekoGloop "t he" 18:58 NekoGloop So, do furnaces accept recipes including item stacks as input yet? 18:59 PilzAdam what? 19:00 NekoGloop minetest.register_recipe(type="cooking",recipe="foo:bar 2", output="foo:rab") 19:00 NekoGloop is that valid yet? 19:00 PilzAdam I dont think so 19:01 NekoGloop should look into it. 19:01 NekoGloop you could see if rba's alloy furnace code can be adapted to the default furnace. 19:14 NekoGloop also, yay mapgen junglegrass :D 19:16 markveidemanis hi InvBot 19:17 InvBot oןןǝɥ 19:18 InvBot uʍopǝpısdn sǝʇıɹʍ ʇoq sıɥʇ 19:18 kaeza invbot: gtfo 19:18 kaeza /msg InvBot !filter shout 19:18 kaeza /msg InvBot say what 19:18 InvBot SAY WHAT 19:18 kaeza fail 19:18 NekoGloop PilzAdam: stick, wood, and tree blocks should have groups and should be used in crafting recipes. 19:18 NekoGloop InvBot: looks like someone's using LuaIRC. 19:19 * kaeza points at markveidemanis 19:19 markveidemanis stick, wood, and tree blocks should have groups and should be used in crafting recipes. 19:19 markveidemanis me? 19:19 markveidemanis its kaeza's bot! 19:19 markveidemanis :D 19:19 kaeza nope 19:19 kaeza check the IP 19:19 kaeza :D 19:19 markveidemanis ! 19:19 NekoGloop i see the other mark is still op'd. 19:19 markveidemanis NO! 19:19 markveidemanis HEXADECIMAL 19:20 InvBot 68 65 6C 6C 6F 19:20 InvBot 48 45 58 41 44 45 43 49 4D 41 4C 19:20 kaeza invbot: gtfo 19:20 InvBot nwod 19:20 InvBot SAY WHAT 19:20 markveidemanis invbot 19:26 Leuthihi I have a server with some friends on it and we already built homes and stuff. 19:26 Leuthihi Now I'm wondering if it's possible to add mods without the need to create a new world, and if we don't like the mod to simply remove it again? 19:26 kaeza so? 19:27 kaeza Leuthihi: you can 19:27 Leuthihi awesome! 19:28 kaeza install the mods in /minetest/mods/minetest 19:28 kaeza if you don't like them later you can remove them 19:28 Leuthihi And to activate them, I simply restart the server? 19:30 PilzAdam yep 19:30 Leuthihi Thanks a lot. 19:31 Leuthihi I also have some issue, but since everything works perfectly fine for my friends, I'm sure it must be related to something on my computer. 19:31 Leuthihi I'm on Windows 7 x64, and the game freezes occasionally. Sometimes the whole windows freezes and I have to kill it. 19:32 NekoGloop dont use direct3d 19:32 Leuthihi I searched on the forum if someone has a similar issue but couldn't find anything. 19:32 NekoGloop also try only having minetest open 19:33 Leuthihi Thanks for the suggestions, I will try that. 19:35 Leuthihi Hello Elench. 19:35 Elench Hi 19:35 Elench (: 19:40 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_OcKMD5d3w 19:40 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Touhou - Rumia's Are you NUTS!?! PV ~Full Version~ {1080p} - YouTube 19:45 * marktraceur waves 19:45 marktraceur Does anyone know of a way to create minecart accelerators that isn't mesecons? 19:45 marktraceur (or technic, I'm not sure I want either of them) 19:46 NekoGloop marktraceur: dunno. 19:46 marktraceur NekoGloop: Thanks for chiming in anyway 19:46 NekoGloop :P 19:47 NekoGloop dunno == polite way of saying look it up yourself 19:48 marktraceur *nod* the only one I can see is mesecons 19:48 marktraceur Maybe I'll hack the powered rails out of mesecons 19:48 mauvebic just take the bit you need 19:48 NekoGloop it should use mese fragments for a slower one, and mese crystals for a faster one :D 19:49 PilzAdam wich carts are you talking about? 19:50 sapier monorail already has non mesecon booster rails 19:51 NekoGloop hm.. i wonder how hard a conveyer belt would be. 19:51 marktraceur PilzAdam: Yours 19:51 marktraceur sapier: I don't suppose you have a link, do you? 19:52 NekoGloop marktraceur: near the top of mod releases 19:52 PilzAdam marktraceur, there is an accelerator: driving downhill; the acceleration of it is higher than the deceleration when driving uphill 19:52 marktraceur NekoGloop: Doesn't seem super-hard. I've already defined a craftitem for conveyors, and a node that transfers between two inventory nodes 19:52 NekoGloop heh 19:52 NekoGloop looks like two people are making a tech-style modpack now :) 19:53 marktraceur PilzAdam: So I guess it would be possible to just make a hilly road, and be done 19:53 PilzAdam yea 19:53 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=730 19:53 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: [Mod] Monorail [0.0.12] [pushable_block] (transport cart added) (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 19:53 NekoGloop also: sapier: do your recipes use blocks or crystals or fragments now? 19:53 PilzAdam marktraceur, here, get a free track: /\/\/\/\/\/\ ;-) 19:53 marktraceur PilzAdam: Unless (deceleration over one node of uphill) + (deceleration over one node of flat) == -(acceleration over one node of downhill) 19:54 PilzAdam I tested it and it seems to work 19:54 PilzAdam (although I never calculated it) 19:55 PilzAdam marktraceur, heres the relevant code: https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/blob/master/init.lua#L315 19:55 sapier blocks by now but I may change if there is interest in this mod 19:55 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: carts/init.lua at master ? PilzAdam/carts ? GitHub 19:56 NekoGloop sapier: use new vehicle api and make it crystals, then I'll be interested. 19:56 sapier marktraceur: monorail supports hil climbing for ages and its wtfp you don't have to reinvent the wheel 19:56 ADFENO Hello. 19:57 sapier vehicle api? attache detache? 19:58 NekoGloop yes vehicle api 19:58 NekoGloop or attachment api 19:58 sapier already added 19:59 ADFENO I'm having problems running my Minetest, to be short, it's a segmentation fault. If someone wants to help, I can provide more details. :D 19:59 sapier I've had exatly same in my minetest branch when I created monorail ... as it wasn't included to core I've lost interest in monorail ... now its in and monorail already is exactly designed for this api 20:00 sapier and monorail supports transport carts 20:01 marktraceur sapier: I'm not reinventing anything, just putting a few stone blocks in my cart path. No problem. 20:02 NekoGloop well, now i work on my modpack :) 20:03 NekoGloop oh, wait, i guess there'll be 3 tech-style modpacks, if technic counts 20:04 sapier so I assume pilzadams carts have learned to climb hills by now? 20:04 NekoGloop prolly not :) 20:04 PilzAdam sapier, I rewrote the carts mod and the first thing ive done was climbing hills 20:05 PilzAdam so its currently the best thing they can do ;-) 20:05 NekoGloop s/best/only/ 20:05 NekoGloop :-) 20:05 PilzAdam they can also drive downhill and even turn on corners(!) 20:06 NekoGloop also, i made my register_ore command allow a light level to be set for ore. 20:06 NekoGloop now no more defining everything but the ore and block in talinite 20:07 mauvebic why is it in the latest git i compiled yesterday - that fast 'J' doesn't work? 20:07 NekoGloop no idea 20:07 NekoGloop maybe it's not J anymore? :? 20:07 mauvebic checked the keys 20:07 mauvebic its still J 20:08 mauvebic it says "fast move enabled" but i aint moving any faster 20:08 PilzAdam mauvebic, hold "E" 20:08 mauvebic are you serious? 20:08 mauvebic i have to hold it every time i wanna fast move? 20:08 sapier PilzAdam: don know when you did it but last time i tried they couldn't do that ... but its been a while since that time 20:08 NekoGloop isnt that how it always worked... 20:09 sapier and downhil and corners are nothing special ;-) 20:09 mauvebic how do i restore the previously sane setting? 20:09 PilzAdam mauvebic, its really handy if you use fly to build etc. 20:09 NekoGloop mauvebic: fast_move always required E. 20:09 mauvebic uhm no 20:09 NekoGloop also no more reaching over the fucking keyboard to turn it off in fly mode 20:09 PilzAdam its same as it was for walking before 20:09 mauvebic e has always worked but you didnt need to hold it down the whole time youre moving fast 20:10 mauvebic holding 'e' as opposed to tapping 'j' twice is more tiresome 20:10 NekoGloop QUICK LITTLE POLL: should talinite ore look like mese ore? 20:10 Calinou no 20:10 mauvebic no wonder vanessa was telling me to downgrade yesterday lol 20:10 ADFENO No. -1. 20:11 NekoGloop well that's a rather definite answer 20:11 NekoGloop why? 20:11 kasutaja hi 20:11 Calinou could be confusing :p 20:11 kasutaja hi calinou 20:11 kasutaja :D 20:11 NekoGloop Calinou: a light blue version of mese ore. 20:11 kasutaja hi neko 20:11 kasutaja wait 20:11 Calinou did I disconnect/reconnect? 20:11 mauvebic how do i undo the holding 'e' thing? 20:11 NekoGloop talinite == the baby/sky blue ore. 20:11 NekoGloop mauvebic: you dont. 20:12 RagnarLaud hi 20:12 mauvebic i will lol 20:12 RagnarLaud :D 20:12 mauvebic one way or another lol 20:12 RagnarLaud hi mauvebic 20:12 NekoGloop Calinou: talinite is the sky blue ore. How could that confuse with mese? 20:13 mauvebic rba will know 20:13 NekoGloop i mean to change the ore pattern of talinite to match mese, not the ore colour. 20:13 Calinou might look like inverted mese to some :p 20:13 Calinou but change the pattern a bit maybe, just rotate it? 20:13 Calinou would look better if someone wants to use it in builds 20:13 MasterBot hi 20:14 MasterBot hi... 20:14 markveidemanis who has programmed a good bot 20:14 NekoGloop Calinou: explain. talinite ore is never gathered; that's the ore that's in the ground. 20:14 RagnarLaud hey i need help! 20:14 NekoGloop ore ~= block :) 20:14 RagnarLaud who knows how to fix a mouse! 20:15 mauvebic where do pull requests that have gone through go? 20:15 NekoGloop RagnarLaud: feed it cheese. 20:15 RagnarLaud PLEASE help me 20:15 RagnarLaud -.- 20:15 markveidemanis who's bot is moltenbot 20:15 NekoGloop markveidemanis: iqual 20:15 MasterBot k 20:15 RagnarLaud not an actuall mouse, a computer mouse you moron! 20:15 markveidemanis what about Minetest-tan 20:15 RagnarLaud so please! 20:15 RagnarLaud help me! 20:15 Calinou NekoGloop: suddenly: creative or /give 20:15 RagnarLaud i cant live without it :S 20:15 PilzAdam markveidemanis, please stop advertising channels or servers 20:15 ADFENO RagnarLaud: plaese, be more kind. :D 20:16 NekoGloop RagnarLaud: feed it computer cheese. 20:16 markveidemanis im not... 20:16 RagnarLaud CMON NekoGloop 20:16 RagnarLaud srsly 20:16 NekoGloop Calinou: so, change it as it is NOW, or rotate AND recolor mese ore pattern? 20:16 RagnarLaud ADFEN0 im in a rush 20:16 RagnarLaud ADFENO im in a rush 20:16 ADFENO Ok, RagnarLaud, what exactly happened with your mouse? 20:16 RagnarLaud sorry :D 20:17 RagnarLaud umm...i cant move the cursor... 20:17 markveidemanis Heh 20:17 NekoGloop inb4 he's pinged by both names. 20:17 Calinou no, don't do anything then 20:17 RagnarLaud it has = a light istead of a ball, a USB cord... 20:17 RagnarLaud the cord is kinda broken tho... 20:17 RagnarLaud and thats the problem 20:17 NekoGloop Calinou: ? 20:17 RagnarLaud the light is on, but it doesnt work :S 20:17 ADFENO RagnarLaud: do you use a portable computer? 20:17 NekoGloop you said "but change the pattern a bit maybe, just rotate it?" 20:17 RagnarLaud no... 20:18 RagnarLaud a pc... 20:18 RagnarLaud not a laptop 20:18 mauvebic normally when someone changes behaviour in MT they put a checkbox to re-enable old behaviour 20:18 RagnarLaud with Ubuntu 12.10 20:18 RagnarLaud mauvebic, GENIUS 20:18 NekoGloop mauvebic: that's because old behavoir was shit :P 20:18 RagnarLaud so ADFENO will ya help me? 20:18 ADFENO Hm... I'm thinking. 20:18 Calinou RagnarLaud: -EBUY_A_DESKTOP :) 20:18 Calinou oh 20:18 RagnarLaud ??? 20:19 Calinou thought it was a laptop 20:19 RagnarLaud lawl 20:19 Calinou ADFENO: you successfully trolled me D: 20:19 ADFENO Wow... sorry Calinou. 20:19 mauvebic holding key's ad-inifinitum is endlessly more retarded and certainly no help for carpel tunnel 20:19 RagnarLaud i had a laptop once, but i selled it for a DELL 20:19 RagnarLaud ADFENO 20:19 RagnarLaud HELP 20:19 RagnarLaud ima ina needa for somea helpa, pleasea 20:19 markveidemanis !t bots 20:19 moltenbot Bots are there to help you and the channel, dont missuse them to spamm. You can use /msg moltenbot 20:20 Calinou heh, dell 20:20 RagnarLaud !g broken speedlink mouse 20:20 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://www.speedlink.com/?s=1&p=3&sup=12 20:20 RagnarLaud :D 20:20 RagnarLaud what 20:20 RagnarLaud DELL is great for games :D 20:20 NekoGloop Calinou: so explain what you mean by rotate the ore pattern? 20:20 RagnarLaud so please! 20:20 Calinou NekoGloop: nevermind 20:20 ADFENO Ok... RagnarLaud, was the mouse working vefore the boot? 20:20 Calinou RagnarLaud: it is not 20:20 ADFENO *before the* 20:20 Calinou build your own desktop next time 20:20 RagnarLaud i need a doctor...uh...repair man... 20:21 RagnarLaud yes... 20:21 Calinou much cheaper and lets you put the non-half-assed OS on it easier :P 20:21 NekoGloop Calinou: at least tell me what you meant 20:21 Calinou dell, lenovo, hp are overpriced and acer sucks 20:21 ADFENO Hm... Your mouse is a USB one, right? 20:21 Calinou NekoGloop: just tweak the ore pattern a bit else it'll look boring 20:21 RagnarLaud its done this before, but usually it hasnt done this for so long 20:21 RagnarLaud yes 20:21 Calinou ADFENO: no, wireless I bet :trollface: 20:21 NekoGloop gotcha. 20:21 RagnarLaud i need help with getting it open, fixing it inside etc. 20:21 Calinou just flip or rotate it, way better than nothing 20:22 Calinou RagnarLaud: google might help you a lot for that.. 20:22 NekoGloop I'll rotate 90 degrees. vertical ore looks better than nothing :D 20:22 Calinou tweaking a premade computer is not always a good idea, they sometimes use outdated technologies 20:22 ADFENO As far as I know, it's not related to a problem inside it. 20:22 RagnarLaud i cant click on any links...kinda... 20:22 Calinou my computer lacks USB 3.0 and SATA III yet it's from january 2012 :facepalm: 20:22 NekoGloop LOL 20:22 Calinou who knows how to fix a mouse! 20:22 Calinou buy a new one? :p 20:23 RagnarLaud WAIt 20:23 RagnarLaud I HAVE A GENIUS IDEA :D 20:23 ADFENO Wait... 20:23 Calinou back in november 2011, my previous mouse somehow broke 20:23 NekoGloop buy it some cheese, problem solved. 20:23 RagnarLaud i remember when i used my gamepad to play mt 20:23 markveidemanis who knows how to fix a mouse! 20:23 markveidemanis grab its tail! 20:23 Calinou I had some gaming mouse bought in 2009, so I used it 20:23 RagnarLaud i set the left stick on mouse_settings 20:23 RagnarLaud GENIUS 20:23 Calinou the logitech g500 is awesome btw, if you want to buy a new mouse :] 20:23 markveidemanis does anyone know InvBot? 20:23 RagnarLaud i do 20:23 RagnarLaud its moltenbot 20:23 markveidemanis really? 20:23 markveidemanis no 20:24 markveidemanis . 20:24 RagnarLaud since of yesterday 20:24 RagnarLaud yes! 20:24 markveidemanis who can help me with a bot 20:25 mauvebic like you need a bot lol 20:25 markveidemanis wat? 20:25 mauvebic well you do a pretty good job of spamming without one :p 20:25 markveidemanis i want the bot to say Y when X is mentioned 20:25 markveidemanis and?... 20:25 markveidemanis http://www.sendspace.com/file/a5a23t 20:25 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: Download invbot.zip from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way 20:25 markveidemanis help 20:25 markveidemanis plz... 20:25 markveidemanis and send back 20:26 markveidemanis but use X and Y 20:26 mauvebic i dont want to imagine what you'd do w/ a bot lol 20:26 markveidemanis reply lol to everything 20:26 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ3lnaw textures folder size of gloopores 20:27 ADFENO As far as I know, the mouse issue is related to the module, however, if the mouse was working, in the same system, then 20:27 markveidemanis mauvebic... 20:27 ADFENO ... I have no clues. 20:27 markveidemanis please code my bot... 20:27 mauvebic weird, lulzpack liquids work, oil doesnt,, code looks the same lol 20:27 NekoGloop mauvebic: the power of IMAAAAAAAAAAAGINATION 20:28 NekoGloop 20:28 markveidemanis mauvebiC... 20:28 mauvebic are you too the same person? 20:28 MasterBot Code my bot please 20:28 NekoGloop which two? 20:28 MasterBot yeah, which 20:29 markveidemanis http://www.sendspace.com/file/a5a23t 20:29 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: Download invbot.zip from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way 20:29 MasterBot http://www.sendspace.com/file/a5a23t 20:29 moltenbot MasterBot's link: Download invbot.zip from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way 20:29 markveidemanis quiet MasterBot... 20:30 markveidemanis dont +q masterbot, diff meaning 20:30 NekoGloop quick, +q masterbot! 20:30 markveidemanis NOOOOOOO 20:30 markveidemanis MOO 20:31 MasterBot initiate self-destruct 20:31 NekoGloop we dont need another spammer in here, let alone one who pretends to be a bot. 20:31 markveidemanis oh, no 20:31 MasterBot i AM a bot 20:31 MasterBot i think 20:31 NekoGloop no you arent. 20:31 MasterBot wanna see a real bot? 20:31 NekoGloop You're mark. 20:31 markveidemanis SO what> 20:31 marktraceur MasterBot: Please change your nick. 20:31 NekoGloop ./whois MasterBot 20:31 NekoGloop :P 20:37 NekoGloop Calinou: http://ompldr.org/vZ3lnbw like this? 20:40 NekoGloop or... this? http://ompldr.org/vZ3lncg 20:41 PilzAdam NekoGloop, the latter one is better 20:41 NekoGloop MC technic players will be like: "WTF nikolite" 20:41 NekoGloop xD 20:44 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4342 :) 20:44 moltenbot Calinou's link: Application for port forwarding using UPnP (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums 20:44 Calinou looks good NekoGloop 20:44 Calinou (testing would be appreciated about the port forwarder, thanks) 20:45 Calinou probably works 20:45 NekoGloop this is called fucking with a lot of settings in GMPaint :) 20:45 NekoGloop also with selection moving 20:46 PilzAdam Calinou, off topic comment added 20:46 RagnarLaud hey who uses ubuntu? 20:46 RagnarLaud hi btw... 20:46 RagnarLaud i know most of you do... 20:46 PilzAdam sry, Kubuntu here 20:46 RagnarLaud but who also has a gamepad? 20:46 RagnarLaud PilzAdam 20:46 RagnarLaud do u have a gp? 20:46 RagnarLaud gamepad 20:46 PilzAdam sure, from my xbox 360 20:46 NekoGloop Calinou: now arol :) http://ompldr.org/vZ3loMA 20:47 ADFENO I'm using Trisquel, I have gamepad, but I use it mainly for emulated games. 20:47 RagnarLaud hey ADFENO 20:47 RagnarLaud do you use wine+xpadder? 20:47 ADFENO No, sorry. 20:47 RagnarLaud f..... 20:48 Calinou PilzAdam: swing gui? :p 20:48 Calinou ADFENO: trisquel? O_o 20:48 RagnarLaud hey is there a emulated mouse or something likethat? 20:48 NekoGloop centered a bit better: http://ompldr.org/vZ3loMQ 20:48 ADFENO I don't need to use XPadder since my games are emulated, and the emulators recognise the input well. 20:48 ADFENO QJoypad., RagnarLaud. 20:49 RagnarLaud !g QJoypad 20:49 Calinou whoops, my external IP is visible D: 20:49 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/ 20:49 Calinou lemme fix that 20:49 PilzAdam Calinou, you arent a Java programmer? 20:49 NekoGloop is VanessaE about? 20:50 ADFENO Calinou: Yes, I'm still testing the system. My main problem is trying to get Minetest to not exit with a segmentation fault. :( 20:50 Calinou PilzAdam: no 20:50 Calinou ADFENO: trisquel... that's why :D 20:50 Calinou the open source drivers are far from the proprietary ones 20:50 Calinou same goes to firmware 20:50 NekoGloop anyone who cares: http://ompldr.org/vZ3loMQ arol ore texture thingy. 20:50 RagnarLaud ADFENO how does it work? 20:50 ADFENO Strange, other more resource taking games work just fine. 20:51 Calinou btw, you said "free distro"? i'm going to download steam then buy L4D on it :3 20:51 Calinou NekoGloop: nice 20:51 Calinou ADFENO: what resource taking game? 20:51 NekoGloop :D 20:51 NekoGloop I would be so pissed if i load this all and it fails instantly 20:52 ADFENO Calinou: Neverball, Nexuiz, OpenArena, TORCS. 20:52 ADFENO RagnarLaud: For me, Trisquel installed just fine. 20:53 ADFENO I just had to update it a bit to get the latest 3D support from the Mesa project. 20:53 ADFENO Otherwise I couldn't even run Minetest. 20:54 Calinou nexuiz is the only resource demanding game in your list :P 20:54 Calinou ADFENO: but it is much slower 20:54 ADFENO No, for me, it's not slow. 20:54 Calinou by much, it is like 2-6 times slower 20:54 Calinou what is your graphics card? 20:54 ADFENO Nexuiz runs just fine. 20:54 Calinou what is "just fine"? 20:55 NekoGloop Calinou: http://ompldr.org/vZ3loNQ 20:55 Calinou I get 60FPS on my old laptop with high settings, I bet the open source drivers does worse :P 20:55 Calinou (xonotic, nexuiz is dead btw) 20:55 ADFENO Minetest: 60-70 FPS, 40~ whne looking at deserts and deep sea. 20:55 Calinou ADFENO: what is your hardware, again? 20:56 ADFENO NVidia GeForce GT 430. 20:56 Calinou I get 20FPS on minetest with nouveau and this is my hardware: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1500666/ 20:56 moltenbot Calinou's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 20:56 ADFENO (Using the Nouveau module, with the latest 3D renderer by the Mesa project, to be short: Gallium3D) 20:56 Calinou (fully loaded terrain, range 128, max settings, no shaders, singleplayer) 20:57 Calinou also had VRAM corruption when using xchat 20:57 Calinou and only opengl 3.0 support instead of 4.2 20:57 ADFENO Hm... You might want to try Gallium3D, then. :D 20:57 Calinou the nouveau driver in ubuntu's repos uses gallium3D, no? 20:57 NekoGloop Calinou: thoughts on the akalin ore texture? 20:57 RagnarLaud hey i need help! 20:58 Calinou NekoGloop: no need to ask every time :P 20:58 mauvebic 20 FPS? :S 20:58 Calinou RagnarLaud: just ask :P 20:58 RagnarLaud umm.... 20:58 RagnarLaud ok? 20:58 Calinou buut with nvidia driver I get 300FPS :> 20:58 ADFENO I'm not sure, Calinou. Only the glxinfo command can tell. 20:58 RagnarLaud ./config 20:58 NekoGloop RagnarLaud: I'm not qualified to administer that kind of help 20:58 Calinou ADFENO: so I don't want to use nouveau when I can get 300FPS :P 20:58 mauvebic well at least you reconize nouveau's crappyness lol 20:58 RagnarLaud i wrote that in the term. trying to install/compile QJoypad 20:58 Calinou 570GTX, which is a fermi GPU can't be reclocked by nouveua 20:58 mauvebic some people would have me believe it works better lol 20:58 Calinou nouveau 20:59 Calinou if it was i'd get MUCH better performance 20:59 RagnarLaud and i dont know what to do 20:59 Calinou but the question is, when will this be possible :( 20:59 NekoGloop Calinou: well you didnt answer to the akalin texture http://ompldr.org/vZ3loNQ 20:59 Calinou looks nice 20:59 Calinou RagnarLaud: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4342 20:59 moltenbot Calinou's link: Application for port forwarding using UPnP (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums 20:59 Calinou might be interesting :P 20:59 mauvebic at this point i just use the hooks that come with nividia biinary 21:00 mauvebic nouveau will be *as good* if /when they get access to the binary source lol 21:00 RagnarLaud umm... 21:00 mauvebic so in the meantime, ill use the binary 21:00 mauvebic lol 21:00 ADFENO Well.. I use Nouveau. The only difference here is: Instead of using the Mesa renderer, I use Gallium3d, which is also open source. 21:00 RagnarLaud how do i apt-get libxtst 21:00 RagnarLaud :D 21:00 RagnarLaud E: Unable to locate package libxtst 21:01 mauvebic not alot of dists though come with binaries pre-loaded 21:01 RagnarLaud what? 21:01 mauvebic so you have about 1-3 hours of mesa-hell lol 21:01 RagnarLaud not alot of distros come with binaries built-in? 21:02 RagnarLaud is that what you mean? 21:02 RagnarLaud !g how to install libxtst 21:02 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-244583.html 21:02 mauvebic they come with every other graphics driver, except the ones that work for most people lol 21:02 ADFENO :D 21:02 mauvebic even the dirt-cheapest computers today have nvidia/radeon cards that work better with binary lol 21:03 Calinou mauvebic: doing so is illegal for distros ;) 21:03 mauvebic ok i can deal with that but you'd think they'd all have that tool like ubuntu had which detects these things and points you to the right driver 21:04 RagnarLaud hey how do i install LibXtst 21:04 RagnarLaud ??? 21:04 NekoGloop fck omploader upload limit 21:04 RagnarLaud LAWL 21:04 mauvebic what limits? 21:04 RagnarLaud but srsly 21:04 RagnarLaud NekoGloop, sudo apt-get install libxtst 21:04 ADFENO It wasn't hard to active my GPU capabilities... I just had to update the kernel using Jxself repository, and then install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental. :D 21:04 NekoGloop "NO COOKIE!" where there *should* be an upload button :P 21:04 mauvebic ive ompld'ed over 400mb of maps in one day lol 21:05 RagnarLaud doesnt work 21:05 NekoGloop mauvebic: My uploads were in multitute, not mass. 21:05 RagnarLaud YO 21:05 RagnarLaud i need help! 21:05 NekoGloop RagnarLaud: and you expect me to know what the fuck you need to do? 21:05 RagnarLaud ADFENO 21:05 RagnarLaud yeah :D 21:06 RagnarLaud got it :D 21:06 NekoGloop You: linux user who needs to install something in order to install this thing that lets you use something to install the next thing 21:06 RagnarLaud it was this one 21:06 NekoGloop Me: windows user who can install what he wants from the start 21:06 Calinou NekoGloop: me: I know how to read readmes and forum threads 21:06 RagnarLaud sudo apt-get install libxtst-dev 21:06 RagnarLaud :D 21:06 Calinou you paste one line in a terminal and you have a minetest install 21:06 NekoGloop Calinou: that too xD 21:06 Calinou (my script) 21:07 Calinou ADFENO: yeah, but performance is partial and opengl support is worse 21:07 NekoGloop I can at least find what i need :P 21:07 mauvebic thats because in linux the minute something matures into stable a new buggy abstraction layer has to be added lol 21:07 ADFENO RagnarLaud: What do you want to install? 21:07 Calinou no "misc feature" support too 21:07 Calinou mauvebic: no u 21:07 Calinou xubuntu is very stable for me, i never found *buntus broken 21:07 ADFENO Calinou: I find the performance a lot better with Gallium3D than Mesa. 21:07 Calinou compare to the proprietary driver 21:08 NekoGloop now, http://ompldr.org/vZ3loYw 21:08 NekoGloop alatro 21:08 Calinou looks good too. 21:08 NekoGloop :D 21:08 RagnarLaud ADFENO 21:08 mauvebic ubuntu, in 07/08 was actually faster than the other distros (imagine that) 21:09 Calinou it still is 21:09 Calinou game performance is the same than with arch 21:09 Calinou and RAM usage is not an indicator of performance, again -- RAM is cheap too 21:09 Calinou 8GB costs €30 if you don't care about speed 21:09 RagnarLaud hey how do i change a tab in xChat without a mouse? 21:10 RagnarLaud with keyboard buttons 21:10 jakssoul 'Ello. 21:10 mauvebic well ram usage is an indicator if the system starts filling swap, SSD or not thats bloody slow compared to ram 21:10 RagnarLaud like on firefox its CTRL+TAB 21:10 RagnarLaud doesnt work here 21:10 mauvebic even with 3gb of ram here it mostly peaks at 1/4 usage 21:10 RagnarLaud ADFENO 21:10 RagnarLaud hey how do i change a tab in xChat without a mouse? 21:10 RagnarLaud like on firefox its CTRL+TAB 21:10 RagnarLaud doesnt work here 21:11 mauvebic though admittedly, im not running 3d docks and transparent gadgets 21:11 ADFENO Sorry, I don't use XChat. 21:11 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:11 RagnarLaud ok 21:11 RagnarLaud MARV! 21:11 mauvebic 2x 1920x1080 and i still dont have enough room tho 21:11 Calinou mauvebic: what if you have a lot of RAM 21:11 Calinou also, multiscreen is only useful to create bugs :3 21:11 RagnarLaud mauvebic = Marv (from home alone) 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 mauvebic even if i had the ram i wouldn't be tempted to run unity or gnome or kde lol 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 RagnarLaud mauvebic 21:12 mauvebic +q 21:12 RagnarLaud Calinou 21:12 ADFENO RagnarLaud: stop. 21:12 mauvebic ty 21:12 Calinou :> 21:12 Calinou mauvebic: xfce here :) 21:12 RagnarLaud sorry 21:12 mauvebic love xfce 21:12 RagnarLaud mauv 21:12 RagnarLaud marv* 21:12 mauvebic like gnome 2 21:12 RagnarLaud SRSLY! 21:12 Calinou well I have 854MB RAM used right now -- running clementine, firefox, thunderbird, gimp, terminals, teamspeak 21:12 Calinou ...out of 12GB 21:13 ADFENO I like GNOME 2, a little less GNOME 3. 21:13 mauvebic the only thing i miss about gnome 2 is all the UI's being the same 21:13 RagnarLaud yo calinou! 21:13 Calinou RagnarLaud: please no spamming, try to act like a mature person, thanks.. 21:13 mauvebic yeah those are all heavy apps lol 21:13 RagnarLaud I CANT 21:13 mauvebic except maybe clementine 21:13 mauvebic (and obvs the terminals) 21:13 RagnarLaud EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU A**HOLES ARE JUST IGNORING ME!!! 21:13 Calinou mauvebic: chromium loads pages a bit slower for me, but i like it too 21:13 PilzAdam RagnarLaud, guess why 21:13 mauvebic chromium but in a crunch ill use midori too 21:14 RagnarLaud prove me wrong! 21:14 Calinou you deserved it 21:14 thexyz BAI 21:14 NekoGloop ragequit 21:14 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caAGyHayvaY 21:14 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: English Cover?JubyPhonic P?Hide And Seek ???? - YouTube 21:15 mauvebic though chromium+flash+nvidia+minetest = bug lol 21:15 Calinou mauvebic: closed firefox/thunderbird/gimp/terminals, 464MB now :P 21:15 mauvebic for certain cards 21:15 Calinou mauvebic: disable HW accel -- anyway latest nvidia driver fixes smurf videos 21:15 Calinou or use HTML5 :D 21:15 Calinou why does youtube still use flash today 21:15 Calinou flash is dead 21:15 mauvebic weirdly, the xfce4-panel is taking twice the ram than minetest right now 21:15 NekoGloop because their html5 one doesnt like to work on all vids 21:16 NekoGloop ... I think task manager is lying to me. This thing cant humanly be dualcore, it sucks too much for that. 21:16 mauvebic html5, ipv6, something about it all makes me want to retch its like the 90's all over again lol 21:17 NekoGloop mauvebic: next, pdf67 21:17 NekoGloop pdf7* 21:17 sfan5 interesting! http://sfan5.pf-control.de/rndm/browsers.png 21:17 mauvebic i still have vivid memories of debates on css vs table-based designs lol 21:17 ADFENO NekoGloop: Task manager monitors the cores and the turbos. 21:17 mauvebic back then they both looked shitty 21:19 ADFENO NekoGloop: For example, I have an Intel Core i7-2600K, it has four cores and four turbos... So it's shown as eight cores under task manager. 21:19 mauvebic on arch i dont have a swap but i have a 5gb /tmp partition since arch doesn't seem to do anything about old temp files till reboot lol 21:20 mauvebic they recent power-out finally freed that up lol 21:20 ADFENO I have an ext3 partition (Debian 6.0.6 Squeeze), an ext4 (Trisquel 5.5 Brigantia), and an 8 GB swap. 21:21 mauvebic you know swap is mostly used for sleep? lol 21:21 ADFENO Each system has aprox. 200 GB of free space. 21:21 mauvebic and last-resort memory 21:21 mauvebic my p4 has 2tb, the dualcore has 500gb 21:22 ADFENO I simply don't let my computer enter sleep mode, it's one of the first things I configure it to avoid. 21:24 mauvebic arch has autoscreenoff that i havent figured how to disable in 2 yrs lol at this point i know xset by heart lol 21:25 ADFENO I don't even turn my computer off. Except when I need to apply or test something, but never before doing backups of my projects. So... It's not off during midnight, except when there is a strong storm. 21:25 khonkhortisan sudo /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate 21:26 khonkhortisan if it works, it saves power while you're gone 21:26 khonkhortisan and power costs money 21:26 khonkhortisan if it doesn't work, you've just lost data 21:27 ADFENO Wow. 21:27 mauvebic in my case power is inc. in the rent 21:27 khonkhortisan cool 21:30 mauvebic no way i'd pay a power bill here, they'd have to properly insulate the place first lol 21:31 khonkhortisan if you insist on paying the bill, you might be able to force them to follow building code 21:32 jojoa1997 new npc is out with spawn command limit and index fix 21:33 mauvebic meh, the rental authorities are pretty much in the pockets of the "proprietaires" (owners?), youre just as likely to get kicked out and sent a bill for the rest of the years' rent 21:34 Leuthihi I made sure it uses opengl. It seems like it was using it by default. I tried it on a different PC, and sure enough, no 'freezing' there. 21:34 khonkhortisan yuck, I thought you'd have paid the last month's when you started 21:34 Leuthihi The problem is that the other PC is much slower, so I can't really play there either. 21:34 mauvebic well you pay on the 1st for the month 21:42 Calinou "I have an Intel Core i7-2600K, it has four cores and four turbos" 21:42 Calinou HIGH FIVE! 21:43 Calinou but I have a better graphics card :3 21:43 ADFENO :D 21:43 ecube D: 21:44 jojoa1997 VanessaE: is she here? 21:44 NekoGloop just 100 more lines of code and gloopores is obsolete \o/ 21:47 NekoGloop I have 344 lines of code between two files O.o 21:47 ADFENO Does someone knows why the site happypenguin.org is offline? 21:47 jojoa1997 kaeza1 i fixed the indentation and it works 21:47 jojoa1997 my npc mod 21:48 NekoGloop he accidentally his webchat 21:50 thexyz Calinou: what do you use your i7 for? 21:52 Calinou thexyz: playing games and extracting .tar.bz2 files 21:53 ADFENO Playing games too. Working with heavy visual projects (images and video). 21:53 Calinou also, running java apps 21:54 Calinou (that's why I have 12GB ram) 21:54 ADFENO For me, my 4 GB RAM does everything. 21:56 thexyz Calinou: try source-based distro 21:57 PilzAdam lol: http://youtu.be/19jUboon5gI?t=1m45s 21:57 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Linus; nvidia f_ck you! - YouTube 21:57 thexyz lol, slowpoke here 21:58 ADFENO I also hate NVidia. 21:59 ADFENO It caused me several system errors when I used Ubuntu. 21:59 thexyz it works fine for me 21:59 PilzAdam works fine for me too 21:59 khonkhortisan I lose graphics on upgrade often 22:07 NekoGloop meow 22:07 ADFENO Aw... Cute. 22:08 NekoGloop ^w^ 22:10 ADFENO I love cats, they are so cute and gentle. :D 22:11 ADFENO (although I'm a man) :D 22:12 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on ADFENO's head 22:12 ADFENO As long as it doesn't hurt, it's ok. 22:12 hmmmm and ATI didn't give you problems!? 22:13 hmmmm for my platform there are literally no drivers for amd 22:13 hmmmm freebsd 22:14 * NekoGloop accidentally the internet 22:16 NekoGloop do swords finally take damage when used on entities? 22:16 PilzAdam you mean wear out? 22:17 NekoGloop same difference 22:18 Calinou thexyz: heh, no 22:18 thexyz why? 22:18 Calinou I also hate NVidia. 22:18 Calinou omg 22:18 Calinou hate on everythin' 22:18 ADFENO Wow. 22:19 NekoGloop PilzAdam: do they? 22:19 PilzAdam not yet 22:20 Calinou lol 22:20 hmmmm for me it just werks 22:20 Calinou hate on® 22:20 Calinou same, hmmmm 22:20 Calinou 9600M and 570GTX == zero issues with nvidia-current-updates 22:20 Calinou nouveau works but is slow :3 22:20 thexyz *you* had, that doesn't mean nvidia sucks 22:21 Calinou since when gentoo/arch users dislike nvidia? :3 22:21 ADFENO thexyz: The first experience determines wether the user will like it or not. 22:22 Calinou AMD CPUs and GPUs use more power so you lose your money 22:22 Calinou >2013 22:22 Calinou >quadro 22:22 Calinou who the fuff uses these? O_o 22:22 Calinou also nice arch you have there 22:23 thexyz >bitcoin mining 22:23 thexyz >2013 22:23 hmmmm >arch 22:23 hmmmm i shiggy diggy dooooo 22:23 NekoGloop Calinou: gonna update moreores to use default.generate_ore? 22:23 Calinou NekoGloop: when I have time 22:23 Calinou thinkpads ftl 22:24 Calinou overpriced_oems = "*", 22:24 hmmmm they're not overpriced when you buy it off lease 22:24 Calinou desktops ftw 22:24 Calinou actually powerful CPUs/GPUs 22:25 hmmmm hope you know that the T4x were the last thinkpads that ibm actually made 22:25 hmmmm T60 and later are all lenovo 22:26 NekoGloop pffft 22:26 NekoGloop fcking commas 22:27 Calinou my old laptop's GPU reached 101°C yesterday, i shut it down 22:27 Calinou ...and my desktop's is at 36°C 22:27 hmmmm my CPU temp today hit 27C 22:27 PilzAdam Calinou, send it to hmmmm, his water boiler is broken ;-) 22:27 ADFENO :-! I hate my ISP, it blocks the most harmless sites. 22:27 hmmmm stock intel cooler 22:28 NekoGloop attempt to call "register_recipe" (a nil value) 22:28 hmmmm if i want heat i would just go buy a GTX480 22:28 NekoGloop wtf is it called now. 22:28 ecube My old laptop gets a BadAlloc error when trying to run minetest. Ouch. 22:28 PilzAdam NekoGloop, minetest.register_craft() 22:29 thexyz it was never called register_recipe, btw 22:29 ecube it wasn't? 22:29 thexyz sure 22:29 NekoGloop sooo many errors xD 22:30 NekoGloop I accidentally CONTENT_IGNORE 22:31 ecube I wanted to buy a GPU that used 500W when using GL4 and the like 22:33 ecube I could have used it as a substitute for my water heater 22:34 ecube hi sfan 22:36 Calinou ADFENO: real ISPs don't block sites 22:36 NekoGloop can i turn off fog somehow? :? 22:37 Calinou NekoGloop: enable_fog = false in minetest.conf 22:37 ecube I think it's either F2 or F3 22:37 ecube Well, you can use one of those buttons 22:37 ecube or use the config 22:37 NekoGloop thank you, that's quite annoying. 22:37 ADFENO Ok, but somehow, I'm beeing redirected to my ISP's search page, which I don't use. 22:39 ecube btw, what's the minimum memory requirement for running minetest? 22:39 sfan5 256 mb should be there 22:39 NekoGloop 10 bytes 22:39 sfan5 128mb may work too 22:39 NekoGloop close enough 22:41 ecube Hm. I've got more than that. Not enough resources error. 22:41 sfan5 too many mods? 22:42 ecube No, it happens when I start minetest 22:42 ecube it's a fresh git version 22:43 sfan5 hm.. 22:43 NekoGloop I accidentally my texture names 22:43 NekoGloop but it loads :D 22:44 ecube :) 22:45 ecube Never mind, I'll find out 22:47 NekoGloop yay found talinite :D 22:47 NekoGloop granted flynoclip but i found it :D 22:51 NekoGloop seems to generate in strains of 4-6 with the numbers i put in. Cool. 22:52 NekoGloop scratch that 22:52 NekoGloop i just seem to have got lucky 22:52 NekoGloop 2-4 seems most common 22:53 NekoGloop ore also gives off a soft glow, which is cool :D 22:53 PilzAdam I thought about adding a glow effect to mese 22:54 Calinou ADFENO_-_absent: what kind of ISP do you have ;-; 22:54 Calinou also, don't use away nicks :P 22:54 NekoGloop PilzAdam: eeeeew 22:54 NekoGloop talinite wont be special then ;.; 22:57 NekoGloop the soft glow looks reaaaaally cool with smooth lighting 23:00 Calinou mod releases forum has 10,093 23:00 Calinou posts 23:00 Calinou more than 10,000 in a single forum! 23:01 PilzAdam Server and General Discussions have > 10,000 too 23:01 NekoGloop General Discussion == General Spam 23:02 Calinou general discussion will soon reach 1000 topics :> 23:02 NekoGloop Calinou: 10,094 now 23:02 ADFENO I'm back. 23:02 Calinou welcome back 23:02 Calinou so, don't use away nicks 23:02 Calinou just use /away 23:02 ADFENO Sorry, I didn't know about that. 23:03 Leuthihi I updated the graphic card driver and I'm still having the same issue. (game freezing for a second or two every few seconds) 23:04 LandMine get a better pc leuthihi 23:04 LandMine just sayin 23:05 Leuthihi It's not "bad performance", it's freezing for a second or two every couple of seconds. I'm not having that issue on my other PC (which has an overal worse performance) 23:05 PilzAdam Leuthihi, does it also happen when you only run a client? 23:05 BackupCoder happens with all servers? 23:06 BackupCoder oh this is a server? 23:06 Leuthihi PilzAdam: I tried to run the server on the other PC and the client on this PC and it still happened. 23:06 NekoGloop le gasp 23:06 NekoGloop le second oldcoder is talking 23:07 BackupCoder heh 23:07 BackupCoder not 2nd but backup I am the safety measure 23:07 Leuthihi The FPS usually stays at around 60 (which is the set limit) 23:08 Leuthihi I don't think it's a performance issue. The overal performance is worse on the other PC, but that exact same issue isn't happening. 23:08 Leuthihi Occasionally that "freezing" freezes the window in an irrecoverable way. (not responding), so I have to kill it. 23:09 NekoGloop I think i accidentally my akalin generation 23:18 KikaRz Hi! 23:18 KikaRz Calinou is OP! What a surprise 23:19 KikaRz VanessaE, why your server is offline=? 23:19 KikaRz sfan5 is OP too. 23:21 VanessaE KikaRz: probably for the same reason as always (EmergeThread getting stuck) 23:21 VanessaE it's back now. 23:22 KikaRz VanessaE 23:22 KikaRz now you should give me a tutorial of Animals mod 23:22 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ3lrNA 23:22 NekoGloop :D 23:22 KikaRz !up vanessae.mine.bz 23:22 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP 23:22 KikaRz Still can't enter 23:22 LandMine !up test 23:22 moltenbot Minetest server test:30000 DOWN 23:23 VanessaE this sucks :( 23:23 VanessaE restarted again. 23:23 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://ompldr.org/vZ3lrNA :D 23:23 KikaRz VanessaE, you should update your site 23:23 KikaRz :P 23:23 KikaRz make it more beautiful 23:23 VanessaE NekoGloop: +1000 23:24 KikaRz beautiful history: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/wedding/index.html 23:24 moltenbot KikaRz's link: April 22, 2006 Wedding Story 23:24 VanessaE oh. 23:25 VanessaE fucking server keeps hanging :( 23:25 NekoGloop VanessaE: do you liek the ore textures? 23:25 KikaRz yea 23:25 * VanessaE yanks out peaceful_npc and restarts. 23:25 KikaRz it froze at media 23:25 VanessaE NekoGloop: yes 23:26 NekoGloop ... holy shit :-) http://ompldr.org/vZ3lrNg 23:26 KikaRz froze at media 23:26 KikaRz Non responding 23:26 PilzAdam NekoGloop, press F1 and F2 before making a screenshot 23:26 VanessaE had to remove jojoa's peaceful NPCs. 23:27 NekoGloop PilzAdam: why? :P 23:27 KikaRz going to play super meat boy 23:27 VanessaE KikaRz: the server's responding fine now. 23:27 KikaRz not the server 23:27 KikaRz my game 23:27 VanessaE there are updates to bring in, so wait it out. 23:27 VanessaE you timed out... 23:28 NekoGloop PilzAdam: here, you screenshot nazi: http://ompldr.org/vZ3lrNw 23:28 PilzAdam please, dont call me nazi 23:29 KikaRz so 23:29 KikaRz you're what? 23:29 NekoGloop ok 23:29 NekoGloop screenshot mushrrom 23:29 NekoGloop mushroom* 23:29 PilzAdam better :-) 23:29 KikaRz who can compile the latest minetest 23:29 KikaRz for windows? 23:29 BackupCoder me 23:29 NekoGloop KikaRz: the forums can 23:29 PilzAdam KikaRz, thexyz 23:29 BackupCoder ask monday 23:29 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4240 23:30 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 23:30 KikaRz thexyz 23:30 thexyz ? 23:30 KikaRz Nothing 23:30 NekoGloop stop ping spamming him, i posted the link 23:30 KikaRz ... 23:30 KikaRz NekoGloop 23:30 KikaRz i sent the message first 23:30 KikaRz you sent the link after. 23:30 NekoGloop you sir are mistaken :P 23:31 KikaRz ... no im not 23:31 thexyz http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-01-05#i_2786218 23:32 KikaRz [23:29] thexyz [23:29] http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4240 23:32 moltenbot KikaRz's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 23:32 KikaRz thexyz, a delay in my computer occured maybe. 23:32 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ3lrYw :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D 23:33 KikaRz that piece of crap is? 23:33 KikaRz (that grey brown and black thing 23:33 NekoGloop a gravel biome. :D 23:33 PilzAdam NekoGloop, you *have* to post seed and post of that somewhere in the forum! 23:33 KikaRz VanessaE 23:34 PilzAdam s/post/pos/ 23:34 KikaRz Can i use the latest version in your server? 23:34 NekoGloop PilzAdam: but wont having my ores affect the gravel spawning? 23:34 NekoGloop or no? :? 23:34 VanessaE bbl 23:34 PilzAdam NekoGloop, no 23:34 KikaRz VanessaE, noooo 23:34 NekoGloop lol there's even a cave 23:35 KikaRz make a swamp biome 23:35 NekoGloop KikaRz: u noob, gravel biomes are legit vanilla :D 23:35 KikaRz whats the config for atlas texture? 23:35 KikaRz atlas_what_enabled ? 23:35 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ3lrZg 23:36 KikaRz can yo utell me? 23:36 PilzAdam KikaRz, see minetest.conf.example 23:36 NekoGloop disabled by default aint it 23:36 KikaRz ... 23:37 KikaRz enable_texture_atlas = true 23:38 PilzAdam gtg; bye 23:38 KikaRz Look: 23:38 KikaRz PNG warning: Interface handling should be turned on when using png_read_image 23:39 KikaRz whats that? 23:39 NekoGloop dont ask me 23:39 KikaRz Its spamming the console 23:39 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62190#p62190 23:39 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: [Random] Gravel biomes, nyan cats, mese blocks, oh my! (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 23:41 KikaRz where are nyan cats? 23:41 KikaRz -.- 23:42 NekoGloop everywhere that you arent looking 23:52 NekoGloop adding compat_module to glooptest. 23:52 NekoGloop will allow users to disable compatibility. Should offer faster loading. 23:53 NekoGloop will also have its own config file to only comply to certain mods