Time Nick Message 00:04 paxcoder ping 00:04 VanessaE pong 00:04 paxcoder that's alright. i've just been auto +q'd from #freenode-newyears then 00:06 paxcoder john_minetest, what's upw ith having this game's name in your nick anyway? 00:07 paxcoder john_minetest, don't 00:08 paxcoder oh you mean like a sub-nick 00:08 paxcoder ok then 00:08 paxcoder you're still john_minetest for /whois 00:09 paxcoder which is funny :-P 00:09 paxcoder paxcoder_teeworlds 00:09 paxcoder bb 00:47 sapier1 happy new year :-) 00:56 mauvebic better pathfinding http://ompldr.org/vZ3dlYw/pipeworks-exp-123112-1953.zip 00:59 iqualfragile yeah, happy new year 00:59 iqualfragile (well, two hours late but whateverz 00:59 iqualfragile ) 01:00 iqualfragile (i should write a script wich automaticly closes any unclosed brackets) 01:01 Exio still 2012 here :P 01:01 M13 same here :P 01:08 sapier1 @exio and m13 ... you're late ;-P 01:09 Exio we are in UTC- :P 01:09 Exio UTC-3 here and still 2012 01:09 sapier1 :-) as I told you're late ;-) 01:09 M13 :-) 01:11 kaeza k guys, see you next year! 01:11 sapier1 @kaeza have fun 01:11 kaeza sapier1: thanks, same for you 01:12 sapier1 thx but I already had ;-) 01:17 iqualfragile ich auch, komm lass uns auf deutsch unterhalten um den kanal zu ärgern 01:17 sapier1 ach nee wir brauchen uns doch nich gleich im neuen jahr neue feinde machen ;-) 01:18 bas080 Happy new year 01:18 bas080 Where's the new year server at? 01:18 sapier1 happy new year to you too 01:21 OldCoder New Year Server? 01:21 OldCoder sapier1, Hi 01:21 OldCoder Happy New Year to people 01:21 sapier1 hello oldcoder happy new year 01:23 sapier1 @oldcoder how is mobf doing do you have any problems sofar? 01:23 bas080 where we play with fireworks mod and have a happy minetest new year 01:24 OldCoder sapier1, It all works like a charm 01:24 OldCoder Except 01:24 sapier1 :-) 01:24 OldCoder Baby Face noted two interesting issues 01:24 OldCoder We are pleased in general 01:24 OldCoder Because there are fish in the water etc. 01:24 OldCoder She says... 01:24 OldCoder Hold on and I will find it 01:24 sapier1 ok 01:25 sapier1 I've just received a whole new year I've got plenty of time left for the moment :) 01:25 OldCoder sapier1, This is funny 01:25 OldCoder Wait a few minutes and I'll edit the log 01:25 kaeza OldCoder: the IRC bot now supports manual disconnection/reconnection. Next step will be automatic reconnection in case of timeout/kick/used nick/etc. 01:26 OldCoder kaeza, Cool 01:26 kaeza gotta go now. brb next year 01:27 OldCoder kaeza, C U! 01:27 OldCoder happy new year 01:27 OldCoder sapier1, you will laugh 01:27 sapier1 I hope so :) 01:27 OldCoder First the bug report 01:27 OldCoder i like the animals but they are buggy 01:27 OldCoder at onr point there are there then they are 01:27 OldCoder gone then you leave and come back and poof they are back but 01:27 OldCoder your barns are missing 01:27 OldCoder ok i like the animals tho ty for adding them 01:28 OldCoder Now I'll save a few of the general remarks 01:29 sapier1 hmm haven't heard of barns getting lost by now ... the other problem she tells is a well known problem with entities for years 01:29 OldCoder Oh? 01:29 sapier1 on chunk load/unload minetest client often get out if sync which entities are loaded and which ain't 01:29 OldCoder sapier1, I am editing 01:30 OldCoder O.K. 01:30 OldCoder I will share a discussion with you 01:30 sapier1 thanks 01:30 kizeren Does anyone else have problems with technic marble stairs? 01:31 kizeren http://pastebin.com/HBTFQSsH 01:31 moltenbot kizeren's link: Aborttat] Loaded! Obsidian Mod: LOADED [HomeDecor] Loaded! growing_trees mod - Pastebin.com 01:32 OldCoder i wonder if the animals die 01:32 OldCoder what?! 01:32 OldCoder what happen to my sheep? 01:32 OldCoder what 01:32 OldCoder he's NAKED 01:32 * OldCoder laughs 01:32 OldCoder Wait 01:34 sapier1 @kizeren seems to be a simple lua bug 01:34 kizeren I am not very familiar with lua yet. Any ideas? 01:35 OldCoder sapier1, Hi 01:35 OldCoder sapier1, mod authors like to see their stuff used 01:35 OldCoder http://minetest.org/animals.txt 01:35 OldCoder So there is an animals discussion 01:35 sapier1 yes it's always good to see your work is usefull for someone 01:35 OldCoder i have one fish, do they reproduce 01:35 OldCoder idk 01:35 OldCoder i have 2 diffrent kinds 01:35 OldCoder i have my favorite fish, clownfish 01:35 OldCoder i have that and a blue fish 01:35 OldCoder six sheep? 01:36 OldCoder man, they have alot of babies 01:36 OldCoder 01:36 OldCoder http://minetest.org/animals.txt 01:36 sapier1 thx I'm already about to read it 01:44 sapier1 :-) pkeasure to read 01:44 OldCoder k! 01:44 OldCoder :-) 01:45 sapier1 completely vanishing barns is a problem I don't know about by now ... I'll have a look if I'm able to find out why this happens 01:50 sapier1 btw mobf 1.9.x gets stable more and more ... i just wonder how big your worlds do get if your players search the world for animals :-) 01:59 OldCoder Pretty large 01:59 OldCoder sapier1, ^ 01:59 iqualfragile pretty large 01:59 iqualfragile ~30 mb for now 01:59 iqualfragile but not everybody has searched yet 01:59 iqualfragile i will need to minesplice the map soon 02:00 sapier1 :-) there's a feature called secondary spawn algorithm making mobs spawn in already generated areas too ... but it's risky spawning in generated areas requires much more cpu power than spawning on mapgen 02:01 sapier1 this feature is disabled by default 02:01 iqualfragile Can I have some mese? :D 02:01 iqualfragile hold on got to get some 02:01 iqualfragile WTF? 02:02 sapier1 don't know ... mobf doesn't use mese for anything 02:03 iqualfragile thats not the point 02:03 iqualfragile either some mod gifts mese 02:03 iqualfragile or someone gifts his hard-earned mese 02:03 sapier1 :-) 02:04 Doc22 anyone play terraria? i have a server 02:06 iqualfragile Doc22: no, nobody plays frcking windows-only .net Steam drm terraria 02:07 Doc22 lol 02:08 Doc22 just wondering 02:10 * VanessaE is back 02:10 iqualfragile no, VanessaE fell over in shock 02:10 * VanessaE is ON HER back. 02:11 VanessaE :) 02:11 iqualfragile aah, now i get it 02:12 iqualfragile it seems to me that half the minetest-community is from germany 02:27 kaeza feliz año nuevo para todos! :) 03:05 VanessaE kaeza: well feeliz something something something to you too :-) 03:05 VanessaE -e 03:05 kaeza thanks :) 03:06 kaeza happy new year! (is this better) :P 03:06 VanessaE lol 03:38 kaeza back 03:39 kizeren wb 03:39 kaeza thx :) 03:42 * VanessaE fixes some (plain, unadorned) fruit punch. Anyone care for glass? 03:42 * kaeza wants 03:43 VanessaE :) 03:45 VanessaE rule #1 for avoiding a hangover: drink lots of water or other sugar-free non-carbonated non-alcoholic drinks aside the alcohol to avoid dehydration :-) 03:45 kaeza rule #2: drink slowly, not all of a sudden :) 03:45 VanessaE yup 03:56 iqualfragile or alternative rule 03:56 iqualfragile #13 dont drink 04:01 VanessaE heh 04:01 kaeza rule #34: no exceptions 04:01 VanessaE well abe and I only get two excuses to drink all year, and we don't drink any other time anyway 04:01 VanessaE so this is as good a reason as we should need :) 04:02 VanessaE kaeza: no, you did NOT just go there. 04:02 kaeza lol 04:02 iqualfragile oh dear… 04:02 iqualfragile kaeza: you did not do that, did you? 04:03 VanessaE yes, he did :-/ 04:03 iqualfragile stop it diego 04:07 kaeza *ok.jpg* 04:08 kizeren Night all and Happy New Year. 04:08 VanessaE night kizeren, happy new year 04:13 kaeza :/ 04:13 kaeza I need a cloak 04:17 VanessaE why? 04:18 kaeza as suggested by OC 04:18 kaeza I don't really care about it though 04:43 hmmmm time for your daily dose people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE 04:43 moltenbot hmmmm's link: Developers - YouTube 04:44 VanessaE is that of monkeyboy jumping around? :-) 04:44 mauvebic 17 mins to go here 04:45 mauvebic cant wait to take down the tree: cat managed to unplug half the circuits in it lol 04:46 VanessaE 14:03 to go 04:46 VanessaE (I'm watching what replaced Dick Clark's Rockin' New Year's Eve via livestream) 04:48 mauvebic i wonder if lawrence welk is on :S 04:48 mauvebic eventhough its all digital now PBS is still pretty hazy lol 04:48 VanessaE (actually it still IS Dick Clark's, they just haven't been saying so on screen here) 04:50 VanessaE 10 minutes! 04:50 mauvebic i dont even have cable subscription anymore since 6mos ago lol 04:50 VanessaE http://new.livestream.com/accounts/43923/events/1673924/player_pop_up 04:50 BackupCoder gave uo 04:50 VanessaE that'll get you the stream I'm watching, in theory 04:51 BackupCoder gave up tv in 07 04:51 mauvebic seriously when they make a show worth watching ill think about buying the boxset otherwise lol 04:51 VanessaE BackupCoder: we don't even own a TV here. an antenna + tv tuner that aren't even hooked up, to the projection system you saw in my home model 04:52 ecube What programs would you watch TV for, anyway? 04:52 ecube the internet/newspaper is good enough 04:52 VanessaE who knows, reruns of old stuff on TV Land maybe, if we had it. Or cartoons. 04:52 ecube and the extra time that you get from not watching TV could be spent with your fellow minetesters 04:53 mauvebic most of the shows you get into these days get cancelled because of cost 04:54 VanessaE yup 04:54 VanessaE old stuff on Blu Ray or DVD is enough for me for the most part now 04:54 VanessaE e.g. star trek or whatever 04:54 VanessaE I refuse to pay for commercials e.g. cable TV 04:54 ecube the only thing on TV worth watching now is news, and you can use the internet for that 04:55 VanessaE 5 minutes! 04:55 mauvebic besides who has time to be home at just the right time to catch your favorite show? lol most ppl dont do 9-5 anymore 04:55 TorpedoSkyline VanessaE, 5 minutes for you, 1:05 for me. ;P 04:55 VanessaE TorpedoSkyline: what, doesn' 04:55 VanessaE doesn 04:55 VanessaE ARGH! 04:55 TorpedoSkyline lol xD 04:56 VanessaE doesn't everyone go by New York time? ;) 04:56 VanessaE what moron put the apostrophe so close to Enter? :-) 04:56 ecube the people who invented the qwerty keyboard 04:56 VanessaE heh 04:56 ecube who happened to be too lazy to fix their typewriters to go faster 04:57 TorpedoSkyline lol 04:57 VanessaE you sure about that? I remember reading somewhere that that theory/story was debunked 04:58 ecube http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Querty#History_and_purposes 04:58 moltenbot ecube's link: QWERTY - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 04:58 mauvebic thats nothing, in quebec we got these shitty combined french/english keyboards that dont work properly with either settings lol 04:58 ecube "The solution was to place commonly used letter-pairs (like "th" or "st") so that their typebars were not neighboring, avoiding jams." 04:58 ecube the sentence after that is a lie 04:58 kaeza great, so now we have "typewriters" (PC keyboards) that are extremely fast and people still use DVORAK. *genius* 04:59 ecube that was the reason the designers gave 04:59 VanessaE here we go 04:59 ecube kaeza: people still use QWERTY 04:59 VanessaE 50 04:59 jojoa1997 HAPPY NEW YERS 04:59 ecube and they should use DVORAK 04:59 jojoa1997 YEARS 04:59 VanessaE 40 04:59 jojoa1997 bbl 04:59 VanessaE 30 04:59 ecube happy new year, jojoa1997, because I've still got 4 more hours, minus 58 minutes 04:59 jojoa1997 20 04:59 VanessaE 20 04:59 jojoa1997 cool 05:00 kaeza 30 05:00 jojoa1997 10 05:00 kaeza 40 05:00 ecube lol 05:00 jojoa1997 5 05:00 jojoa1997 1 05:00 jojoa1997 no3 05:00 jojoa1997 now 05:00 jojoa1997 for me it is 2013 yay i survived 2012 05:00 kaeza merry christmas!!! 05:00 kaeza whoops 05:00 ecube happy new year for those in the east coast 05:00 jojoa1997 thanks 05:01 VanessaE HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!! 05:01 * VanessaE gets drunk 05:01 kaeza lol 05:01 kaeza jojoa1997: you from brazil right? 05:01 jojoa1997 from 2 states below vanessa 05:02 kaeza oh your name sounded portuguese 05:02 kaeza sowwy 05:02 jojoa1997 for joseph 05:02 kaeza oh 05:02 kaeza I thought is was joao 05:02 kaeza sowwy again 05:03 ecube I never thought about that 05:04 jojoa1997 so for the real reason i came how do you make an entity die when they go in water i just cant figure it out this is my github 05:04 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc 05:04 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: jojoa1997/peaceful_npc ? GitHub 05:04 jojoa1997 bbl 05:04 jojoa1997 think about the prob 05:04 jojoa1997 please 05:05 Muadtralk happy new year from EST! 05:05 Muadtralk :P 05:05 * VanessaE gets drunker :D *hic* 05:05 VanessaE *hic* 05:05 jojoa1997 cya bb in a hour 05:05 Muadtralk only sober person in my house atm 05:05 Muadtralk :P 05:05 VanessaE lol 05:05 VanessaE why!? 05:05 Muadtralk underaged 05:05 Muadtralk not that it matters in my household 05:06 ecube I find alcoholic drinks too bitter for my taste 05:06 VanessaE you're under 21? I got the impression for some reason that you were closer to my age 05:06 VanessaE meh, you'll have a chance soon enough :) 05:06 Muadtralk eh most of my family has been drinking since they were 5 05:06 VanessaE ecube: André "Spumante" sparkling wine 05:06 Muadtralk i just never picked up the habit 05:07 mauvebic im part scott and french, so obviously i have a alcohol:blood content :p 05:07 ecube Maybe it's because my first impression of alcohol was isopropyl alcohol 05:07 kaeza wait... you though Muadtralk was about 60? lol 05:07 VanessaE o.O 05:07 ecube and the second one was in natural ice 05:07 VanessaE I'm VanessaE, not OldCoder :D 05:07 ecube lol 05:07 Muadtralk and i thought VanessaE was rather young 05:07 Muadtralk not too young 05:07 Muadtralk maybe 36 05:08 kaeza nah, she looks like 18 05:08 kaeza (x4) 05:08 VanessaE holy shit I think I'm already smashed 05:08 Muadtralk good for you 05:08 VanessaE I've only had one drink so far! 05:09 iqualfragile VanessaE: in most countries you are allowed to drink way earlier then 21 05:09 Muadtralk ive already heard enough broken glass and mary jane tonight 05:09 VanessaE Muadtralk: close enough :D 05:09 iqualfragile here in germany its 16, and if you are in a restaurant eating something and have your parrents with you its 14 05:09 mauvebic here's one of me done recently: http://www.fineartlib.info/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/3/653.jpg 05:09 kaeza iqualfragile: where I live, the legality of it doesn't really matter lol 05:09 iqualfragile here neither 05:09 kaeza we have 13 year olds getting drunk 05:10 iqualfragile but thats just whats legal and 16 is a lot less then 21 05:10 * kaeza lives in what you would consider a ghetto 05:10 Muadtralk I live in the boonies 05:10 iqualfragile i do absoulutely not live in a getto 05:10 Muadtralk :P 05:10 iqualfragile but still… germans love alcohol 05:11 kaeza lol 05:11 Muadtralk my high class socialite german family works out very well 05:11 iqualfragile we have 13 year olds getting drunk, too 05:11 iqualfragile but its more common to start drinking with ~14 05:11 kaeza I always ask where are the parents of those children 05:11 iqualfragile whats worse is that they start smoking, too 05:11 kaeza they should be hanged 05:11 iqualfragile kaeza: nope 05:12 iqualfragile they have no idea 05:12 mauvebic perhaps both parents are working 05:12 iqualfragile even those who care 05:12 kaeza In my experience here, there are quite a few parents who send their children to work for them 05:12 mauvebic i pulled alot of dumb shit in my youth but i dont blame my parents for it lol 05:13 kaeza they *know* about those addictions 05:13 kaeza and yet they do nothing about it 05:13 Muadtralk I have crashed the computer mainframe at my school several times 05:13 Kacey hello 05:13 kaeza hey Kacey! 05:13 Muadtralk i got only get caught when i fileshare 05:13 kaeza happy new year 05:13 Kacey are we talking about crashing the school network? 05:13 ecube it depends on where in the world you are 05:14 ecube damn... only a small percentage of the world left in 2012 05:14 ecube good-bye, 2012! *sobs* 05:14 Muadtralk no we are talking about dumb shit 05:14 Kacey 2 hours of dos mil doce for me 05:15 kaeza tu español apesta Kacey 05:15 kaeza :P 05:15 Kacey hey kaeza ##kacey 05:15 mauvebic its the same time in mexico and peru right? 05:15 Kacey que? 05:15 Muadtralk thats why I said happy new year from EST 05:15 Kacey lol 05:15 Muadtralk much more specific 05:15 ecube i think mexico is 1-3 hours behind peru 05:15 ecube nvm i was thinking about brazil 05:16 ecube nvm that, i was right the first time 05:16 iqualfragile i have allready used 6 hours of 1213 05:16 iqualfragile 2013 05:17 mauvebic im not going to bed soon anyhow lol 05:17 iqualfragile im sorry, timetraveled a lot lately, still having a bit of a problem remembering the right dates 05:18 iqualfragile kaeza: but its not that bad (alcohol) midle-europeans (germans, polish people) have geneticly adapted to alcohol-consumption 05:18 mauvebic i had a sixpack over the course of the evening 05:18 kaeza heh 05:18 mauvebic all time record was 36 in a day 05:19 kaeza that's one of the german stereotypes 05:19 iqualfragile ( im not kidding ) 05:19 iqualfragile no, its not 05:19 iqualfragile im german 05:19 kaeza either a beer addict or a hitler 05:19 Kacey im german and redneck 05:19 iqualfragile neither 05:19 Kacey octoberfest? 05:19 Muadtralk my relatives still having full cognitive power when beating me at tengen tetris is a testament to how correct that stereotype is 05:19 Kacey or however it is spelled 05:19 iqualfragile and most nazis live outside of germany nowadays 05:19 kaeza oktoberfest* 05:19 ecube hahaha.... *backs away from the channel* 05:19 Kacey yah!!!! 05:19 Muadtralk I believe they have been drinking nonstop since...... 05:20 Muadtralk about when they woke up 05:20 iqualfragile its realy genetics! 05:20 Kacey yah!!!! 05:20 iqualfragile in the middle-age everybody had to drink beer 05:20 Kacey nein!!! 05:20 iqualfragile because the water was too poluted to drink 05:20 Kacey true... 05:21 Muadtralk and it was some evil beer at that I would assume 05:21 Muadtralk :P 05:21 iqualfragile so even the young girls drunk it 05:21 mauvebic heck here they still dumped raw sewage into the river well into the 70s lol 05:21 iqualfragile and those who had problems converting alcohol just died 05:21 * Kacey must not say anything or look like a perv 05:21 Muadtralk why not? 05:22 iqualfragile so the ones left had a natural alcohol-resistance 05:22 Kacey so even the young girls drunk it | no reason... 05:22 Muadtralk I can't fathom how that could be perverted 05:22 iqualfragile thats why germans have less problems with lots of alcohol 05:22 Muadtralk explain Kacey 05:22 mauvebic black stockings 05:22 Kacey no just no 05:22 Muadtralk PM me then 05:23 Muadtralk you have awakened my curiousity 05:23 iqualfragile i know 16 year olds wich can drink half a bottle of wodka without greater problems 05:23 mauvebic lol only half? 05:23 iqualfragile 16 year old girl 05:23 Kacey hell i can down a bottle and a half before the floor hits my face 05:23 Muadtralk the other half go to burning things? 05:23 Muadtralk :P 05:23 Kacey and im younger 05:24 Kacey lol thats where my extra half goes 05:24 kaeza talking to my mom on chat: (one hour later): Hi! 05:24 mauvebic first time i got drunk was on 40oz of vodka (i thought it looked like water so must not be strong) lol 05:24 iqualfragile well, im off now 05:24 mauvebic nity nite 05:24 iqualfragile its 6:30 around here so i gues its time to go to bed 05:25 iqualfragile (or wake up if you arent a nerd) 05:25 mauvebic pm? 05:25 iqualfragile we use 24 hours 05:25 mauvebic i use the klingon calendar 05:25 mauvebic :p 05:25 * iqualfragile uses bed 05:25 * mauvebic tucks 05:25 Muadtralk long as it isnt lunar..... 05:33 jojoa1997 im back :-) 05:33 jojoa1997 who is still here 05:33 mauvebic the holy ghost 05:34 jojoa1997 that i was talking to earlier 05:34 jojoa1997 vanessae? 05:34 Muadtralk I am alive :P 05:34 mauvebic i left ten minutes ago 05:34 VanessaE yes? 05:35 jojoa1997 oh 05:35 VanessaE I'm only here in spirit - I' 05:35 VanessaE m too drunk to give a shit now :D 05:35 jojoa1997 well sweet dreams :-) 05:35 VanessaE lol 05:36 jojoa1997 so does anyone know how to make an entity die when in water 05:36 mauvebic *here in spirits? 05:36 mauvebic :p 05:36 VanessaE mauvebic: LOLOLOLO 05:36 kaeza +L :P 05:36 jojoa1997 all i hade was carbonated grape juice 05:36 jojoa1997 underaged rocks no hangovers yay 05:37 jojoa1997 if i am responsible ofcurse 05:37 jojoa1997 ofcourse 05:38 kaeza :P 05:38 Muadtralk responsible? 05:38 Muadtralk are you insane? 05:38 VanessaE jojoa1997: solution: rink lots of water while you're hitting the sauce - you won't get hungover then 05:39 jojoa1997 you know when you do the right thing i have very good parents 05:39 Muadtralk being irresponsible is so much fun! 05:39 VanessaE drink too 05:39 VanessaE fuck I'm plastered 05:39 * VanessaE laughds hysterically 05:39 Muadtralk maybe I should have drank all the alcohol i got offered today 05:39 VanessaE Abe is equally pissed 05:39 Muadtralk then maybe I could sleep.... 05:40 jojoa1997 nah im fine i water is what i get drunk oin seems like your solution does not work LOL 05:40 mauvebic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbgv8PkO9eo 05:40 moltenbot mauvebic's link: Harry Nilsson - Coconut (1971) - YouTube 05:41 jojoa1997 so that is anyone that is not drunk or can help tell me how to make the code i have given up here is my git https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc/blob/master/init.lua 05:41 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: peaceful_npc/init.lua at master ? jojoa1997/peaceful_npc ? GitHub 05:42 jojoa1997 or should i ask later 05:43 mauvebic ive been working on the same nodebox for 3 hours so im probably no help tonight lol 05:43 Muadtralk couldnt you just give it a check to see what node the entity is in at the given moment 05:43 Muadtralk and if it is in water remove? 05:43 jojoa1997 VanessaE : one word ASPIRIN 05:44 Muadtralk ie get the post and cross reference to the nearest node? 05:44 jojoa1997 it dies when it is in water 05:44 jojoa1997 when the head is 05:44 * VanessaE screams at the top of her lungs for no reasons whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 05:44 * jojoa1997 whinpers 05:44 * jojoa1997 wimpers 05:44 Muadtralk x-1? 05:44 kaeza aaaaaaand she's drunk :P 05:45 OldCoder Hi! 05:45 kaeza 3hey OldCoder 05:45 VanessaE totally shitfaced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 05:45 kaeza lolol 05:45 jojoa1997 oldcoder give me interact on minetest.org 30010 05:45 mauvebic ill be making coffee soon wife's on a nightshift anyhow 05:45 * VanessaE laughs uncontrollably!!!!!! 05:45 OldCoder jojoa1997, coming now 05:45 OldCoder jojoa1997, it was not supposed to be an interact world 05:45 * OldCoder sighs 05:45 OldCoder It was supposed to be a demo 05:46 Kacey ooh god VanessaE's drunk 05:46 OldCoder jojoa1997, what time zone are you in? 05:46 OldCoder kaeza, hi 05:46 OldCoder kaeza, you are 2nd in a list 05:46 jojoa1997 OldCoder, markdveimanius gave it to me befor the switchover 05:46 kaeza OldCoder: happy new year ^_^ 05:46 OldCoder jojoa1997, what switchover? 05:46 OldCoder kaeza, HNY! 05:46 kaeza OldCoder: ? 05:46 OldCoder jojoa1997, explain 05:46 VanessaE Kacey: 6 sheets to the wind :D 05:46 VanessaE *hic* 05:46 jojoa1997 when the server went from him to you 05:46 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi! 05:46 jojoa1997 hosting wise 05:46 OldCoder jojoa1997, go on 05:46 VanessaE hi OldCoder ! 05:46 OldCoder explain 05:46 OldCoder VanessaE, not you 05:46 OldCoder VanessaE, Happy New year 05:47 VanessaE yes me! happy new year :D 05:47 OldCoder jojoa1997, what do you mean, gave it to you? 05:47 jojoa1997 i asked him and he gave me it to help him build but when i sign on now the priv is gone 05:47 jojoa1997 granted it to me 05:47 OldCoder jojoa1997, this is news to me 05:47 OldCoder PM please 05:47 jojoa1997 i asked him ingame 05:47 VanessaE if I had any intelligence I'd sign off now but I DON"T CARE!!!!! 05:47 jojoa1997 ok 05:47 VanessaE :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D 05:47 OldCoder VanessaE, don't 05:47 kaeza lololol 05:47 OldCoder VanessaE, we are glad to have you 05:47 OldCoder kaeza, I will announce officially here 05:48 OldCoder kaeza, and work up a page later 05:48 OldCoder kaeza IRC mod is proudly featured as part of the OldCoder modset 05:48 kaeza OldCoder: may I ask announce what= 05:48 kaeza ?* 05:48 kaeza oh 05:48 OldCoder kaeza, you asked me 05:48 OldCoder If it was official 05:48 kaeza right 05:48 OldCoder I have been helping people to compile all day 05:48 OldCoder etc. 05:48 OldCoder So have not produced an updated page 05:48 OldCoder That features the mod 05:48 OldCoder I will try to do so tonight 05:49 * OldCoder sighs 05:49 OldCoder 2 people need help elsewhere 05:49 OldCoder excuse me 05:49 kaeza OldCoder: good news: I also fixed a bug at pack_mod time with CMake < 2.8.7 05:49 kaeza I already got xy to compile 05:49 * Kacey goes off to find bread 05:52 * jojoa1997 eats Kacey's bread nom nom nom 05:52 OldCoder kaeza, K I will update 05:52 Kacey i dont have it yet 05:52 VanessaE I justrealized you guys have never seen me like this. How do I look!!!!! 05:52 VanessaE :D :D:D;D :D:D:D:DD: 05:52 Kacey like a bunch of letters lol 05:52 kaeza OldCoder: you don't need to currently 05:52 jojoa1997 very good (in words) 05:53 * Kacey comes back with bread 05:53 * kaeza wants bread 05:53 * Kacey hands VanessaE the bread 05:53 Kacey here sober up a little 05:53 VanessaE fuckthe bread *throwsit atthenearest nyancat* 05:53 VanessaE OMG 05:53 kaeza lolwut 05:53 Kacey you are more drunk than me after a bottle and a half of vodka 05:54 VanessaE lol 05:54 Kacey and i look like a worm after then 05:54 VanessaE lol 05:55 * kaeza had 4 bottles (1 liter each) of beer, and is now having cider 05:55 kaeza bad combo 05:56 jojoa1997 you guys are brave i had to take pepto after a can of cream soda and a glass of sparkling grape juice 05:57 mauvebic testmap lol http://www.zimg.eu/i/4286623054 05:58 kaeza mauvebic: PIPES CAN TRANSPORT LIQUIDS??? 05:58 jojoa1997 the pipes mod works now when was it updated? 05:58 mauvebic http://ompldr.org/vZ3dlYw/pipeworks-exp-123112-1953.zip 05:58 mauvebic keep a copy of your default one 05:59 kaeza mauvebic: thx, gonna try it :) 06:00 mauvebic they only transport water, are there any mods that register their liquids with bucket? 06:02 mauvebic my wife wanted it to work with lava, someone else mentionned oil in pm 06:02 kaeza I was about to suggest oil too 06:03 mauvebic i could always lookup the drawtype via nodedef 06:03 mauvebic tho mixing liquids around the intake might crash it lol 06:04 kaeza good point 06:04 kaeza I guess suggesting data buses for mesecons would have the same problems 06:04 mauvebic meh, ittl go with the first type it finds 06:05 mauvebic if people are stupid enough to stick lava + water or oil around the intake thats their problem lol 06:05 VanessaE so let them try to suck up obsidian :D 06:05 mauvebic assuming oil mod has machiens to extract oil, the intake/outtakes is more for tanks and such 06:06 mauvebic in my case i really do move water from one end of an asteroid to the other lol 06:06 mauvebic i have these huge-ass gardens coming up lol 06:10 mauvebic i was thinking the outlet could be more like this: http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-m2/75-160-mm-16-bar-120-26457-2592793.jpg 06:11 kaeza nice idea 06:12 kaeza ask VanessaE :D 06:12 mauvebic ill ask her in the morning lol 06:13 OldCoder Hi 06:13 OldCoder VanessaE, you look fine 06:13 OldCoder more or less 06:13 kaeza she seems to have pased out on alcohol lol 06:13 jojoa1997 i think that the water should not expand but stay in one line down 06:14 mauvebic i need coffee (romulan ale should be illegal) 06:15 kaeza hmm... romulan ale? 06:15 VanessaE it IS illegal :D 06:15 kaeza oh there you are :P 06:15 VanessaE `HI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 06:16 kaeza lol you remind me of my sister 06:16 mauvebic howdy oldcoder HNY 06:17 mauvebic ooh i have leftover chocolates with alcohol in them :S 06:18 VanessaE CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!!! 06:18 kaeza no 06:18 VanessaE GIMME!!!!!! 06:18 kaeza lolol 06:19 kaeza now that you are drunk, can I grief your server? :P 06:19 VanessaE no 06:20 VanessaE nice try A$$H0L3! :-) 06:20 VanessaE lol 06:20 kaeza d0n7 5p34k m3 1n 7h47 l4n6u46e m155 06:20 VanessaE LOL! 06:21 * Kacey reads up... 06:21 kaeza 101 06:21 * VanessaE his practically hyperventilating from laughing so hard 06:21 kaeza 7r010101 06:21 Kacey im jealous now 06:22 kaeza ʃoʃ Êžunɹp ɯ,I 'ʃʃǝɥ ¿ʇɐɥʍ ÉŸo snoʃɐǝɾ 06:23 VanessaE LOL! 06:24 Kacey :/ 06:24 Kacey im not 06:30 * Kacey has found the bag of sugar 06:30 Kacey hehe good enough 06:31 kaeza does anyone know what's the package name for LAMP? 06:31 VanessaE sugar? bleah. keep it 06:31 Kacey well i am not the age to be drinking soo ya 06:32 kaeza lose *ALL* the teeth!!! 06:32 Kacey naw i have the teeth mod installed i made them out of mese 06:33 VanessaE teeth mod? 06:34 kaeza Kacey: your character needs a better AI mod, because your current one suxxx 06:34 kaeza trollolol 06:34 VanessaE HAPPY NEW YEARS WEEDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 06:34 Kacey damn 5 pound bag of sugarr lasts around a minute 06:34 Kacey 25 more minutes... 06:34 kaeza 5 pounds = ?kg ? 06:35 kaeza Weedy_lappy: HNY!! 06:35 Kacey uuum idk 06:35 VanessaE a little less than 2kg I think 06:36 kaeza :/ 06:36 kaeza you'll really lose all your teeth that way you know? 06:36 VanessaE a little OVER 2kg sorry 06:36 Kacey teeth mod 06:36 VanessaE 2.27blahblahblahblahblahblahblah kg 06:36 VanessaE BLAH!!! 06:36 VanessaE :D 06:36 kaeza lolol 06:37 kaeza also 3.14blahblahblah 06:37 VanessaE lol 06:37 kaeza and blah! you end up with an *almost* full circle :P 06:39 Kacey pi? i like pi!!!!! 06:40 kaeza hmmm pie 06:45 VanessaE night all 06:45 VanessaE time to go to bed while I can still manage some semblence of walking :-) 06:45 VanessaE semblance* 06:47 OldCoder VanessaE, very well 06:47 OldCoder hny 06:47 kaeza good night VanessaE 06:48 kaeza hope you don't get a hangover :P 06:50 Kacey night v 06:50 Kacey 10 more minutes... 06:59 kaeza Kacey: PING 07:01 Exio hey 07:01 Exio hai :D 07:01 Kacey uHAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!one!!!!! 07:08 kaeza feliz año nuevo Exio!! 07:08 Exio :D 07:08 kaeza al menos alguien me entiende ^_^ 07:08 Kacey dos mil trece!!!!!!!! 07:09 Exio feliz new year tambien :P 07:09 kaeza :P 07:19 Kacey night all 07:22 kaeza night Kacey 07:22 Exio night Kacey :) 07:30 mauvebic pipes in the colony http://www.zimg.eu/i/1364554930 07:51 OldCoder R 07:52 OldCoder mauvebic, will the old world continue? 07:52 OldCoder I am just getting to know it 07:52 OldCoder That is an impressive image though 07:54 kaeza OldCoder: what are the 'normal' circumstances under which a user may disconnect? kicked and timing out? 07:54 kaeza besides manual disconnection 07:55 kaeza (from an IRC channel I mean) 07:55 OldCoder kaeza, There are 6 minutes 07:55 OldCoder left in the year for me 07:55 OldCoder I am on a 6-minute break :-) 07:55 kaeza :P 07:55 kaeza nice 07:56 kaeza you should take a longer break every now and then 07:57 jojoa1997 leave him alone only six minutes left 07:58 Exio kaeza: disconnect? channel? wut 08:00 mauvebic yeah my wife did some work on the old world yesterday 08:00 kaeza Exio: I'm trying to add autoconnection in case of fail to my IRC mod 08:00 kaeza but LuaIRC is a PITA 08:00 OldCoder Happy New Year to me 08:01 kaeza \o/ 08:01 * OldCoder blows an imaginary party favor 08:01 kaeza HNY OldCoder 08:01 OldCoder ty 08:01 kaeza yw 08:03 Exio kaeza: you should make a 'catch' for every quit of the bot 08:04 Exio and only 'avoid' the reconnect when you specify it 08:04 Exio btw, an irc channel can't disconnect players 08:04 Exio the irc server does that :P 08:04 kaeza meh 08:05 kaeza you get the point 08:05 kaeza LuaIRC is event driven 08:05 Exio :P 08:05 kaeza I need to catch *all* the 'normal' quit errors/messages 08:06 kaeza and reconnect after some time 08:06 OldCoder kaeza, I am now too tired to think much about your question 08:06 OldCoder But I am updating the mod 08:06 OldCoder and it will go in on next rebuild 08:07 kaeza OldCoder: np, I'm sorting this out 08:07 OldCoder hmm 08:07 OldCoder should I update now? 08:07 kaeza ifyou wish so 08:07 OldCoder No, indicate 08:07 OldCoder is the master ready to use? 08:07 kaeza yes 08:07 OldCoder k 08:09 Exio Ping timeout, Excess Flood, Quit:, Max SendQ Exceeded, Remote host closed, Connection reset by peer, and KILLs 08:11 Exio and the ping timeout.. should be 'fully client side' (PING and if the server doesn't "respond" it in <200 seconds, reconnect) 08:24 kaeza Exio: besides manual disconnection by user 08:25 kaeza so Ping timeout, Excess flood, Max SendQ exceeded, Kicked, ... 08:25 Exio everything not starting by 'Quit:', but that is per network 08:28 kaeza lol I didn't know you can host a website with dropbox 08:30 Exio only 'static' pages (well, not dynamic in the server, only with JS in the client) :P 08:36 kaeza Use Qooxdoo-based apps and you have a hell of a hosting service in Dropbox :P 08:36 kaeza (almost) 08:39 markveidemanis hi 08:39 kaeza hi mark 08:39 markveidemanis Hi kaeza 08:40 kaeza 06:37 08:40 kaeza just ask 08:40 markveidemanis ok 08:41 markveidemanis i am 2 hours ahead of you 08:41 markveidemanis 8:40 08:42 * kaeza is feeding his kittehs, brb 08:43 Exio 5:43 her 08:43 Exio +e 08:51 * kaeza is back 08:51 Exio wb :P 08:52 Exio btw, i'm going to sleep, 'night' >:D 08:56 kaeza thx and night 08:56 kaeza I may do so very soon 09:05 Kaeza-in-jEdit a 09:06 OldCoder NEWS 09:06 OldCoder worlds shutting down for backup and updates 09:07 OldCoder Jeija, clarify 09:07 OldCoder should I update mesecons or not? 09:07 OldCoder not to experimental 09:07 OldCoder I mean main 09:08 markveidemanis No data received Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data. 09:08 markveidemanis whoops i broke the internet 09:08 kj markveidemanis: what? 09:08 markveidemanis idk... 09:09 kj F5 09:18 Jeija yep, OldCoder, you may update mesecons to the latest master 09:20 kaeza|jEdit done, sorry for flooding 09:27 kaeza bbl. going to bed 09:27 kaeza cya 09:47 Calinou hi and happy new year :p 10:01 * kaeza|jEdit is away: Please contact me in my main account 10:02 kaeza a 10:05 thexyz someone should've muted VE 10:58 markveidemanis k 10:58 markveidemanis ... 10:59 markveidemanis /msg doesn't work 10:59 OldCoder explain 10:59 markveidemanis everyone: minetest.org:30010 is up live and on a fresh modpack 10:59 markveidemanis ! 10:59 markveidemanis i tried /msg #minetest 10:59 OldCoder ?! 10:59 OldCoder no 10:59 OldCoder that does not work :-) 10:59 markveidemanis minetest.org:30010 is up live, interact will be Granted! everyone on for the best building you have ever done! 10:59 markveidemanis ok 12:00 markveidemanis MY SERVER IS LIVE 12:00 markveidemanis survival mode 12:00 markveidemanis new and exciting mods 12:00 markveidemanis come join 12:01 markveidemanis us at minetest.org30010 12:01 markveidemanis thank you 12:03 kaeza SIERRA-PAPA-ALPHA-MIKE 12:07 * john_minetest <3 glider planes! 12:12 kaeza is there any callback or another way to reliable determine when the server is shutting down? 12:16 RealBadAngel minetest.register_on_shutdown(func()) 12:16 RealBadAngel ^ Called before server shutdown 12:16 RealBadAngel ^ WARNING: If the server terminates abnormally (i.e. crashes), the registered 12:16 RealBadAngel callbacks WILL LIKELY NOT BE RUN. Data should be saved at 12:16 RealBadAngel semi-frequent intervals as well as on server shutdown. 12:18 kaeza thanks RealBadAngel 12:18 kaeza also happy new year 12:18 RealBadAngel thx, u2 12:18 Jordach yep 2013 12:48 Jeija http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We1Xc9BslZA&hd=1 second version of clientside engine particles 12:48 moltenbot Jeija's link: minetest particles take 2 - YouTube 12:49 Jordach Jeija, NICE. 12:49 Jordach so its for all nodes registered? 12:52 Jeija yep, it just takes parts of their textures 12:53 Jordach jeija, can you also make that part of while your digging it? 12:53 Jordach like punching dirt 12:53 Jeija sure, but I'm working on collision detection now 12:53 Jordach good 12:53 Jordach just use the player detection durr 12:53 Jeija ...and there is another really weird bug: Particles appear to be >behind< clouds ^^ 13:14 Jordach ahhh z-fighting 13:14 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 13:14 PilzAdam Happy New Year! 13:14 Jordach hey PilzAdam 13:32 Muadtralk VanessaE sobered up yet or should I get a bat? 13:36 Jordach craft a bucket, left click a water source. left click on VanessaE 13:36 Muadtralk that never works 13:36 Muadtralk I will use lava instead 13:36 Jordach lol :) 13:37 * Muadtralk grabs one of his many lava buckets and pours it over VanessaE's head 13:37 Jordach or CONTENT_IGNORE, crash the universe 13:38 Muadtralk last time i placed CONTENT_IGNORE i found out that statement was a lie 13:38 Jordach content_ignore is neither ture or false 13:38 Jordach its not air, but not a node 13:40 Muadtralk If we ever get suffocation CONTENT_IGNORE should act like a vacuum 13:40 Jordach thats weird. why should content_ignore be there when its neither a node or air 13:40 Jordach i was thinking it be anti-gravity nodespace 13:41 Muadtralk yes but you should need a special suit to traverse it 13:41 Jordach eg, SPACE. 13:41 Jordach suit. 13:41 Muadtralk yep 13:41 Jordach (had to do a space core, for SPPPAAAACCCEEEE!!!) 13:42 Muadtralk hmmmm would such a core be feasible? 13:42 Muadtralk crud...... 13:42 Muadtralk okay hmmmm is not on 13:42 Muadtralk so there is no need for me to be careful with my hmmmm's 13:43 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVn1oQL9sWg 13:43 moltenbot Jordach's link: All quotes from Portal 2's "Space" sphere - YouTube 14:54 markveidemanis HI! 14:55 markveidemanis HeLLO! 14:55 markveidemanis who is a miner (Dwarf) 15:00 Vibe-X hi all :) 15:03 Vibe-X i created a linux server (after compiling like in the article in wiki) and get while connecting to it this error" minetest failed to emerge player" does someone know, what this could be? :( 15:03 Calinou Vibe-X: if someone crashes, they'll take a while to time out 15:03 Calinou known bug 15:03 Calinou user has to wait a bit to connect again 15:05 Vibe-X no this would be my first connect after starting th eserver 15:05 Vibe-X no time out needed, because i never connected before 15:06 Calinou does your client work? (singleplayer) 15:06 Calinou did you add any mods to the server? which mods? 15:07 Vibe-X singleplayer works on my client very well, no mods 15:07 Vibe-X the server is pure, and client unmodded 15:07 Calinou try restarting your server :P 15:07 Vibe-X done, vibe-x.de port 30000 15:07 Calinou i'll try 15:08 Vibe-X and no chance :/ 15:08 Vibe-X 16:08:08: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player 15:08 Calinou yeah can't connect 15:08 Vibe-X on_newplayer 16:08:06: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player 15:08 Calinou Vibe-X: try stopping the server the delete the "worlds" folder on the server, then restart it 15:08 Calinou small chance the world got corrupted :P 15:08 Vibe-X okay 15:08 Calinou it'll generate a new one 15:09 Vibe-X 16:09:28: ACTION[main]: World at [world] 16:09:28: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on port 30000. creative inventory size: 115 15:09 Vibe-X retry ? :) 15:09 Calinou nope... 15:09 Calinou have to go now 15:11 PilzAdam Vibe-X, cant connect 15:11 Vibe-X yeah thats the problem ;) 15:12 PilzAdam I know, you wanted some testing 15:12 sapier hello is there a set of default privs within minetest? 15:13 PilzAdam sapier, you mean something like this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L182 ? 15:13 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: minetest/minetest.conf.example at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 15:14 Vibe-X pilzadam, you have no other idea, why ther is such a error ? 15:15 sapier thx :-) maybe this information would be good in lua_api.txt too 15:15 PilzAdam no, because thats not modding 15:15 PilzAdam Vibe-X, dunno 15:16 sapier there's a lua api for privs too so it is modding somehow 15:16 sapier in my oppinion at least a notice where to find more information would be fine 15:16 PilzAdam its only config related 15:18 sapier so why add a lua iterface if it's not of interest for lua? ;-) 15:19 sapier how to acces priv description from within game? 15:19 PilzAdam ehm, the only function to change this is minetest.setting_set() and it says that is configurates the minetest.conf file 15:19 markveidemanis what mods are just for administrators? 15:19 PilzAdam and people should know that there is a minetest.conf.example 15:19 markveidemanis like maptools 15:21 sapier mods may have settings too at least mobf does have ... mob blacklist for example is really complex so I created a gui to make it more conveniant for players ... in singleplayer this is quit ok but on servers that gui ought to be shown to special players only 15:21 PilzAdam sapier, btw: the wiki helps a lot: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Privileges 15:22 Jordach heh 15:22 sapier some days ago we had a discussion about "single source of information" ... this is one of the cases showing what benefit this is ;-) 15:22 iqualfragile sapier: you allready have that build in 15:22 Jordach Vibe-X, ill test your server 15:22 sapier yes but privs system isn't working as expected 15:23 sapier privs system in mobf_settings 15:24 sapier @iqualfragile what do you mean with "that"= 15:24 iqualfragile you do check wether a player has a privilege before you add the mobf-menue to his inventory_plus 15:25 Vibe-X 16:23:24: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player 16:23:37: ACTION[ServerThread]: jordach times out. List of players: 15:25 sapier yes but It's not working :) 15:25 iqualfragile it worked for me 15:25 Jordach i'll keep it running 15:25 sapier register of privilege was missing so i doub't anyone could access it 15:25 iqualfragile i could access it after reading the source and adding the privilege to my player 15:25 iqualfragile before that i could not 15:26 iqualfragile so it worked, didnt it? 15:26 Jordach Vibe-X, did you install from apt-get or self compile 15:26 Vibe-X self compiled, but i think he creates no world 15:26 Jordach ehm, run the minetest binary 15:26 Vibe-X ah kk 15:26 Jordach and go to the advanced tab 15:26 sapier yes but why is a register_privilege function in place if you don't need to register a privilege ? strange ... have you been able to change settings from client too? 15:27 Jordach create a world; and run on 30000 15:27 Vibe-X it is linux with no X server 15:27 Jordach O.o 15:27 iqualfragile no, i have not, have allready reported that to you 15:27 Vibe-X no chance to run minetest binary or? 15:27 Vibe-X i want to run linux shell based server 15:27 iqualfragile Vibe-X: no problem 15:27 Vibe-X aaaaaah 15:27 iqualfragile run bin/minetestserver 15:27 Jordach dunno, most people use screen with X 15:28 iqualfragile im not 15:28 Vibe-X AH he create world ion PWD 15:28 Vibe-X -.- 15:28 sapier @iqualfragile ... yes I do remember it not working thats why i asked :) 15:28 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 15:29 PilzAdam Vibe-X, did you compiled latest git version? 15:29 iqualfragile Vibe-X: have you solved your problem? 15:29 Vibe-X latest stable 15:29 Vibe-X with cmake like in wiki told 15:29 Vibe-X " cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1" 15:29 Jordach from http://github.com/celeron55/minetest/master ? 15:30 iqualfragile Vibe-X: try using those scripts, they might be able to help you 15:30 Vibe-X "wget': wget https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/tarball/master -O master.tar.g" 15:30 iqualfragile https://github.com/iqualfragile/minetest_scripts 15:30 PilzAdam Jordach, he just said latest stable 15:30 moltenbot Masters link: iqualfragile/minetest_scripts ? GitHub 15:30 iqualfragile Vibe-X: no, just clone it 15:30 iqualfragile git clone git://github.com/iqualfragile/minetest_game.git 15:30 iqualfragile no 15:30 Jordach the minetest_scipts are nice apparently 15:30 iqualfragile git clone git://github.com/iqualfragile/minetest.git 15:30 Jordach why yours iqualfragile 15:31 iqualfragile oops 15:31 iqualfragile my mistake :D 15:31 iqualfragile git://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git 15:31 iqualfragile THERE 15:31 Jordach i was gonna hand type that 15:31 Jordach >:( 15:33 * Jordach has a playlist with 4 months, 13 days, 6 hours, 28 mins and 41 seconds 15:33 PilzAdam nyan-cat? 15:33 Vibe-X yeah but downloading the latest stable from git would be the same as the tar file or? 15:33 Jordach yes 15:34 Vibe-X i will give the scripts a chance thank you 15:34 iqualfragile Vibe-X: not realy, you can use git pull to update 15:34 Vibe-X yeah of course 15:34 iqualfragile (if you clone) 15:34 iqualfragile thats verry handy 15:35 Vibe-X yeah versioning has some advantages :D 15:35 Vibe-X but this isnt needed for a static version you want to use, if you dont want to updated in "real time" 15:35 Vibe-X i will try to compile again 15:36 Jordach PilzAdam, should i create 2048^2 textures? 15:36 markveidemanis hi 15:36 Obiewan1111 I hate youtube sometimes. -.- 15:36 PilzAdam Jordach, sure 15:36 Obiewan1111 Hey. 15:36 Jordach PilzAdam, watch your framerate drop by 13x 15:37 artur99 how to make a shop? 15:38 Jordach PilzAdam, maybe at some point: (2048*2)^2 15:38 Vibe-X lua/build/liblua.a(loslib.o): In function `os_tmpname': loslib.c:(.text+0x35): warning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' 15:38 Vibe-X is this serious? 15:39 Vibe-X while compiling 15:39 Vibe-X just a warning, right? 15:39 Jordach \o/ 15:40 Vibe-X now i tried a minimal game, and still emerge error :( really strange 15:41 Vibe-X or does someone has an ready to go debian package? 15:41 Vibe-X the repo packages are out of date+ 15:42 Jordach sudo apt-get update 15:42 Vibe-X yeah, no i meant -> debian packages are just 0.3.1 15:42 Jordach oh 15:42 Vibe-X or do i need another repo? 15:42 Jordach then self-compiling is the best option 15:43 Jordach concurrently 15:43 Vibe-X http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=minetest&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all 15:43 moltenbot Vibe-X's link: Debian -- Package Search Results -- minetest 15:43 Jordach Vibe-X, want latest, compile it yourself 15:44 Jordach (thats how it runs around here apparently) 15:44 PilzAdam Vibe-X, ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds 15:53 sapier @iqualfragile sorry but I can't make mobf_settings work on servers from within lua ... servers "saveConfig" function is never called in core ... client uses "updateConfigFile" directly but that code is ifndef SERVER 15:53 iqualfragile sapier: then save the settings to worlddir/moddata/mobf/* 15:55 sapier is there a conveniant way to access settings stored there or do i have to implement file reading writing myself? 16:01 iqualfragile later :D 16:02 sapier no i won't work for trash ;-) btw server not saving settings seems to be bug as there is a saveConfig() function specialy for server but it's never called 16:07 sapier @iqualfragile if you add "saveConfig();" to server.cpp at end of server destructor (around line 1185) mobf_settings will do fine 16:07 iqualfragile k 16:11 artur99 how to make a shop? 16:12 Calinou depends on the shop mod you use :P you need one, too 16:12 Calinou if you want an automated shop 16:12 artur99 im on an online server 16:15 artur99 i want to make a normal shop 16:15 Calinou what server? 16:15 Calinou look at the mod releases forum 16:15 Calinou btw, /mods for a list of mods 16:16 artur99 30004 16:18 Vibe-X there is an shop mod 16:18 Vibe-X with shopping machines and coins ;) 16:19 artur99 so, how to make it? 16:22 Vibe-X theres a mod "mint" 16:22 Vibe-X search at the mods site 16:22 Vibe-X unpoack it in mod folder 16:22 Vibe-X but there are some dependencies, maybe you need them installing to 16:22 Vibe-X now i have to go, sorry :/ eat ;) 16:23 artur99 how to make am locked sign 16:23 artur99 ? 16:30 markveidemanis how do i spawn a zombie from animals mod? 16:31 sapier are you on oldcoders server? 16:32 sapier if not "/spawnmob animal_vombie:vombie x,y,z 16:32 VanessaE good morning all 16:32 PilzAdam hey VanessaE 16:32 artur99 where is the zombies? 16:33 artur99 *are 16:40 iqualfragile sapier: in Server::stop() ? 16:40 sapier no 16:40 iqualfragile VanessaE: good morning 16:40 VanessaE hi :) 16:40 sapier at end of Server::~Server() 16:41 sapier mayve server stop would work either 16:41 iqualfragile so the last line of Server::~Server() 16:44 sapier1 sorry lost connection but yes last line of Server::~Server() function 16:46 artur99 the copper is in the tefault mod? 16:46 artur99 *default 16:46 iqualfragile no 16:46 VanessaE copper is in moreores. 16:47 iqualfragile its in moreores 16:47 Vibe-X look in the packages ;) 16:47 artur99 aha 16:47 artur99 thanks 16:48 VanessaE +1 16:48 iqualfragile not without adoptions 16:48 iqualfragile i think you could remove some of the ores 16:49 artur99 which server has zombies? 16:50 iqualfragile artur99: none of oldcoders has 16:51 iqualfragile he has just enabled the animals 16:51 artur99 which on them? 16:52 iqualfragile well, sheep, fish, gulls, cows chicken 16:52 artur99 no... Which server has animals? 16:54 iqualfragile all of them i guess, but im not shure about that 16:54 iqualfragile OldCoder: artur99 has a question 16:54 OldCoder Hi 16:54 OldCoder 30004 16:54 OldCoder The others will shortly 16:54 OldCoder 30004 was a test 16:54 OldCoder They seem to work except for one known problem and one unconfirmed 16:54 artur99 im playing there, but i never found animals 16:55 OldCoder artur99, the animals were just added 16:55 OldCoder Talk to Baby Face 16:55 artur99 when? 16:57 OldCoder when she shows up 17:09 Doc22 im so tired 17:10 Doc22 probably going through a growth spurt 17:10 Doc22 been tired for the past week or two 17:11 Doc22 lol 17:12 Doc22 im 14 so proper age for growth spurt 17:12 Doc22 wow 17:12 Doc22 im 5'7" or so 17:12 Doc22 which is a bit less 17:12 Doc22 if you dont know feet 17:13 Doc22 i think 2 metres is about 6 feet 5 inches 17:14 Morrolan Just google it. 17:17 iqualfragile im nor tired, i woke up at 15:30 17:17 iqualfragile (stayed up untill 6:30) 17:22 iqualfragile use wolframalpha 17:45 Kacey hello 17:45 Muadtralk you broke the silence! 17:45 Kacey lol 17:45 VanessaE hi kacey 17:45 Kacey hi v 17:47 Kacey hey if anyone wants to play with Kaceybot go to ##kacey 17:49 Mika_R hi all 17:49 Kacey hello 17:49 Mika_R VanessaE when did you last time visit redcrabs 30401 server? 17:50 VanessaE Mika_R: a couple weeks ago I guess 17:50 VanessaE I don't go there too much anymore 17:50 Mika_R anyone here encountered issues with gravel? 17:50 Mika_R vanessaE, the gravel behaves odd 17:50 VanessaE define "odd"? 17:51 Mika_R when mined the lowest, leaving air beneat it the rest drops, but also some / somehow spawns around the map above sealevel, mainly on roads 17:52 VanessaE that may be related to the >4GB SQLite bug 17:52 VanessaE redcrab's map is almost 6GB now, any MT map more than 4GB tends to exhibit weird bugs. 17:53 VanessaE (except when the database backend being used is LevelDB, apparently) 17:53 Mika_R ok, mined a bit a few minutes back on redcrabs and then when i came up another player noticed gravel where he was 17:53 VanessaE OH wait 17:53 VanessaE that's the attachments bug 17:53 VanessaE any entity will do that, and falling gravel is an entity 17:54 Mika_R there is quite a bit around redcrabs 30401 with gravel 17:54 Muadtralk so has any progress been made in repairing that bug? 17:56 VanessaE not sure really 17:56 Exio VanessaE: 20 FPS with your 512x texture pack 17:56 Exio 30 without 128x 17:56 VanessaE exio: not bad; what view range? 17:56 Mika_R i dont know, i have been struggling with my pc last 3 weeks 17:56 Exio with * 17:57 Exio VanessaE: default (server) 17:58 VanessaE exio: cool 17:58 Exio not shaders or stuff.. netbook :P 17:58 Kacey need to boost my fps 17:58 Exio the engine is very fast 17:59 Exio Kacey: try minecraft, then minetest will look too damn faster 17:59 Kacey no MC looks faster right now 17:59 Kacey 0 fps 18:00 Exio enabled 'full viewing range (r) and 10~14 FPS 18:00 Vibe-X hi volks, just 1 more question 18:00 Vibe-X is it correct, that only the server needs a mod 18:00 Vibe-X and the client download all needed filesß o.O 18:00 Mika_R i feel there is quite a difference between minetest in windows and ubuntu 18:01 Kacey disabled fog and turned viewing range all the way down and got 1 fps 18:01 VanessaE Kacey: bad video driver I guess 18:01 Vibe-X i installed "mesecons" and after connecting i got all textues and mod informations o.O 18:01 VanessaE Vibe-X: that is correct behavior 18:01 Kacey Vibe-X: you don't need the same mods as the server 18:02 Vibe-X i just need the mod on server side, right? 18:02 VanessaE yes 18:02 Vibe-X and clients dont need it 18:02 Kacey correct 18:02 Vibe-X wow *.* now im loving it <3 18:02 Mika_R minetest disabled full view around 55-60, with enabled full view 15-25 18:02 Vibe-X and what about clients, who installed own mods, they wont used, riht? 18:02 Vibe-X because of hacking e.g. 18:02 VanessaE no 18:02 Kacey full view kills me 18:02 VanessaE server won't run their code. 18:02 Exio even in the celeron in my other house without acceleration and windows xp (512mb ram) minetest works better Kacey 18:03 Kacey not here 18:03 Vibe-X no i mean, user installed mods which change the game, wont executed on the client side 18:03 Vibe-X like other blocks or something 18:03 Exio the client doesn't run anything 18:03 Vibe-X if you install a redstone block for example, just on your client 18:03 VanessaE Vibe-X: well in theory a hacked client could perhaps run client-side mods, but they won't be able to change the map in any way that the user can't with tools etc. 18:04 Vibe-X ah okay 18:04 Vibe-X alright, thank you 18:05 Vibe-X just the last question, can i enforace texture packs by this way? 18:06 VanessaE you can install a client-side texture pack to override what the server sends you, yes 18:06 * VanessaE does that 18:06 VanessaE many of us do in fact 18:06 * PilzAdam not 18:07 Vibe-X so i am not able to force clients to use server mod packs, beacuse they can overwrite it 18:07 Vibe-X kk 18:07 VanessaE ah PilzAdam, the consummate antagonist 18:07 VanessaE :) 18:07 VanessaE Vibe-X: right. 18:07 VanessaE Vibe-X: if there's no texture pack in use on the client, they'll see the server's texture pack. Otherwise, they see their own. 18:08 Kacey speaking of texture pack, i need one that boosts fps 18:08 VanessaE Kacey: try http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=850 18:09 VanessaE or http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3670 18:09 Kacey naw ill find my own 18:09 VanessaE (4x4 and 8x8, respectively) 18:09 Kacey but Vibe-X pull up a chair and stay a while there is plenty of room here for you 18:09 Exio i don't think that will really matter 18:09 Vibe-X VanessaE: will the server send first and the client check, if texture will used? or will the client check first and download then? :) 18:10 VanessaE Vibe-X: the server sends first. 18:10 VanessaE but then the client caches the data for later. 18:10 VanessaE (it just doesn't use some of it then) 18:11 Vibe-X ah okay 18:11 Vibe-X Kacey: ? o.O 18:12 VanessaE Kacey: there's also this really old and gawdy one: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1407 18:12 VanessaE (1x1) 18:12 Kacey stay a while Vibe-X 18:12 Vibe-X in this channel, or what? 18:13 Kacey i grabbed Mennche's 4x4 18:13 Vibe-X sorry, but i dont know, what you want to tell me :/ 18:13 Kacey just hang around 18:13 Vibe-X i will :D 18:13 VanessaE Vibe-X: whe is saying that we'd like you to visit here more often - we like having new folks around. 18:13 VanessaE -w 18:14 Vibe-X ah alright, of course i will visit you some times more 18:14 Vibe-X i'm really interested in minetest, such much potential 18:15 Vibe-X with some tests, i will do a public server =) the concept of lua scripts are perfect 18:15 Vibe-X is there any posibility to init a new script, without restarting the server? 18:15 * Kacey has yet to figure out lua modding 18:15 thexyz Vibe-X: no 18:15 Vibe-X ah okay thx 18:16 Muadtralk I would imagine if such a feature did exist it would be rather volitile 18:16 Jordach Vibe-X, i suggest you use a real irc client, like hexchat, xchat, irssi, quassel et al 18:16 Vibe-X i uses xchat ;) 18:16 Jordach good 18:16 Exio wait what 18:16 Vibe-X but when i joined here, i just thought about fast question :D 18:17 Vibe-X not about hours of chatting 18:17 Vibe-X i will send a bouncer to this channel later ;) 18:17 Exio 30~40 FPS 18:17 Jordach your english is rather decent 18:17 Vibe-X mine? o.O Sorry about this 18:18 Jordach Vibe-X, i can easily understand you without trouble 18:18 Vibe-X happy to hear :) 18:18 Jordach (people like kikarz, artur, etc) i cant easily get 18:18 Vibe-X first : thank you for your help ! i will visit a friend to play borderlands now ;) 18:18 PilzAdam Jordach, when will there be the next episode of you + Mito lets play? 18:18 Vibe-X have a nice evening 18:18 Jordach PilzAdam, when he beeps my on skype 18:18 Jordach me* 18:19 Kacey im putting together a group to create a string of let's plays 18:19 Jordach why? i might be able to; my triton headset has hq recording 18:20 Jordach PilzAdam, i could review the default mod and creative thursday 18:20 Jordach (default mod SETS.) 18:21 Jordach i still think woolcraft should be in defaul 18:21 Jordach default game until wool can be crafted 18:21 Kacey afk 18:21 VanessaE Jordach: sdzen's+jojoa1997's dye and wool crafting mods ftw 18:22 Jordach bleh 18:22 VanessaE sorry to put it bluntly, but your recipes are horrible by comparison :-) 18:22 Jordach VanessaE, you liked woolcraft at one point 18:22 Jordach so shush. 18:22 Muadtralk VanessaE worked with you on cotton 18:22 VanessaE Jordach: I still do, but those ^^^ are better :-) 18:22 Muadtralk double shush 18:22 Muadtralk :P 18:24 VanessaE not that it matters, pilzadam's just gonna drag his feet :-) 18:24 Jordach xyz over there might be able to help 18:24 Muadtralk thexyz could you possibly push it to the master? 18:24 Muadtralk wow Jordach beats me yet again 18:25 thexyz push what? 18:25 Muadtralk fetching links 18:26 thexyz woolcraft? 18:26 Muadtralk https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/92 18:26 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Crafting Recipes For Dyes by sdzen ? Pull Request #92 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 18:26 thexyz >sand + coal= White wool | lol, wtf 18:26 Muadtralk https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/90 18:26 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Crafting Recipe for Wool and Addition of Plain Wool by sdzen ? Pull Request #90 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 18:26 VanessaE thexyz: wrong mod. 18:27 Jordach VanessaE, fallback > existing solutions 18:27 Jordach (uses mobf, farming, etc) 18:27 thexyz crafting wool from papyrus and sticks? seems legit 18:27 VanessaE thexyz: better than sand+coal :D 18:27 Muadtralk more legit then coal and sand 18:28 Muadtralk damn it I keep being beat! 18:28 Jordach trololololol 18:28 Muadtralk 3 seconds this time! 18:28 VanessaE lol 18:28 PilzAdam thexyz, I dont like this wool craftings because its just adding something (maybe stupid) because we have nothing else 18:28 PilzAdam this cant end good 18:28 NakedFury ok alternative 18:28 Jordach PilzAdam, deal breaker: add farming 18:28 NakedFury scrap wool. add cotton blocks and cotton crafting 18:28 thexyz we should minetest_game with celeron55, like, should it have wool? should this game be (slightly)realistic? what to add, etc, etc.. 18:29 thexyz yeah, cotton blocks are better 18:29 PilzAdam Jordach, I have a nice farming mod ready for upstream; I just need textures 18:29 Jordach go on. 18:29 NakedFury cotton can have cotton plants 18:29 NakedFury we cant do wool plants 18:29 VanessaE thexyz: we have no real wool source and probably won't for months. So we need a somewhat believable solution. 18:29 NakedFury cotton! 18:29 thexyz good solution is cotton 18:29 Jordach PilzAdam, send the mod to me in -mods 18:29 Kacey back 18:29 Mika_R papyrus + sticks aint that good 18:29 NakedFury cotton just needs a name change, adding the plant and a rework of the recipe for colors 18:29 thexyz BTW, I don't play minetest_game at all, better ask PilzAdam to merge something into it 18:29 mauvebic no cotton plants? 18:29 thexyz NakedFury: why does it need name change? 18:30 Muadtralk mobf is actually pretty stable now 18:30 NakedFury well wool block when we are using cotton? 18:30 thexyz NakedFury: cotton block 18:30 Muadtralk some work and I think its worthy of being in the default 18:30 Muadtralk you know once it gets low res textures 18:31 NakedFury forgot to say earlier, happy new year 18:31 Mika_R there is some mod of planting cotton 18:31 thexyz what's wrong with cotton block? it's definetly better than wool from papyrus and sticks 18:31 VanessaE what about the dye crafting recipes? forget wool for now 18:31 Mika_R papyrus is rare on servers that has been up for a longer time 18:32 Muadtralk so were trees 18:32 Muadtralk before saplings were added 18:32 thexyz VanessaE: your recipes for unified dyes are OK, as for me 18:32 thexyz maybe except white dye 18:32 mauvebic you should use a chemist mod for making dyes 18:32 VanessaE thexyz: eh? not unified dyes, forget about that mod. I mean Muadtralk's dye crafting 18:32 thexyz hm.. 18:32 VanessaE (UD will be rewritten to work with his, if it gets pushed to minetest_game) 18:33 thexyz red dye from apple? 18:33 thexyz blue dye from cactus? 18:33 mauvebic we used to have a mod for making, potions i think -> make dyes 18:33 Mika_R OldCoder, how is it going with europe server? 18:33 Muadtralk would you rather have water for blue? 18:33 VanessaE and yellow from a mese crystal fragment - closest materials we could find in the default game. 18:33 thexyz doesn't it have flowers? 18:33 NakedFury use flowers for dye making 18:33 PilzAdam thexyz, there is an alternative for creating dyes: this https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/576f055e26b1fdaf11c366087829971e7511b2bb but with flowers 18:33 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Add junglegrass to mapgen ? 576f055 ? PilzAdam/minetest_game ? GitHub 18:34 VanessaE who said anything about flowers? 18:34 PilzAdam VanessaE, 3 people here ;-) 18:34 thexyz then we should firstly add flowers to default game 18:34 VanessaE before that you nut 18:34 Mika_R flowers would be logical 18:34 Mika_R and somewhat cheap cause they respawn 18:34 mauvebic only logical if all maps have grass tho 18:34 VanessaE flowers is logical but if the flowers are not compatible with my/ironzorg's mod they should not be used. 18:35 Muadtralk why wouldn't they be compatible? 18:35 VanessaE Mika_R: PilzAdam wants to put them into the mapgen = they'll never show up on old maps without my mod. 18:35 VanessaE Muadtralk: node names. 18:35 mauvebic which mapgen? lua or cpp 18:35 Muadtralk ahem i mean why wouldnt someone think to make them compatible 18:35 Muadtralk hopefully cpp 18:35 Muadtralk :P 18:35 mauvebic for flowers? 18:35 PilzAdam mauvebic, basically the Lua mapgen but it uses existing code so it wouldnt slow down very much 18:36 mauvebic add whatever you want to the mapgen just dont forget to add flags :p 18:36 VanessaE Muadtralk: "not invented here" of course. 18:36 thexyz whatever, I was working on new stupidMakeTilesV2 for onomatopoeia and you interrupted me so roughly, back to code now.. 18:36 VanessaE Muadtralk: everyone seems to like to re-implement stuff in slightly incompatible ways 18:36 Muadtralk hmmmmm 18:36 Muadtralk true 18:37 Muadtralk your a testament to that with your bloody default:mese 18:37 mauvebic thats not new lol 18:37 VanessaE :P 18:37 mauvebic the same thing was said of mobs a few fays ago lol 18:37 mauvebic *days 18:37 VanessaE heh 18:38 markveidemanis HI! 18:38 markveidemanis my server actually has people on 18:38 markveidemanis all come join 18:38 markveidemanis it has awesome creations 18:38 Jordach ffs 18:38 Jordach shut up about it. 18:38 markveidemanis minetest.org30010 join the fun! 18:39 thexyz oh, it has people on it! such a popular server 18:39 mauvebic though lately when i reimplement stuff i send it back to the OP cuz i just dont feel like maintaining copies seperately lol 18:39 rubenwardy !s 18:39 Jordach its like the proposed end of the world, no one gave a shit 18:40 mauvebic which reminds me i have to send zeg my copy of ufos lol 18:40 * Kacey hands everyone a cookie 18:40 mauvebic ugh, not on :( 18:41 Jordach mauvebic, drop it on his topic 18:41 mauvebic eventually were gonna need mod categories on the boards lol 18:44 VanessaE so getting back on topic, where do we stand with these dyes and wool? 18:45 VanessaE (so I know what to rewrite later on my mods that use the stuff) 18:45 NakedFury wool trnasformed into cotton until we have sheep 18:45 NakedFury transformed 18:45 mauvebic cylon + viper ufos: http://ompldr.org/vZ3dtZg/ufos-010113-worcestershire_edit.zip 18:45 VanessaE ok fine 18:45 Mika_R vanessaE, should be plantable cotton, then harvest, 2x2 cotton in grid to make white wool. colors from some cheap stuff 18:46 Mika_R if flowers doesn't work 18:46 VanessaE PilzAdam, thexyz: put Jordach's Cotton mod into minetest_game, alias all wool nodes to the appropriately-colored cotton nodes. 18:46 VanessaE put Muadtralk's dyes mod in, altered to work with cotton. 18:46 Jordach VanessaE, requires UDye 18:46 VanessaE put flowers in, so we have a source of the raw materials. 18:46 VanessaE Jordach: you used dye groups, right? 18:47 Jordach its your framework 18:47 VanessaE group:basecolor,red and so forth? 18:47 thexyz care to alias/alter everything needed? 18:47 VanessaE hm. nope, you hard-coded the dyes names. 18:48 VanessaE forget jordach's cotton. 18:49 VanessaE thexyz: trivial to do, but pointless now. 18:50 VanessaE thexyz: point him to jojoa1997's post. 18:51 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4248 18:51 thexyz point him yourself 18:52 VanessaE now watch the fun. 18:52 VanessaE "horrible" or "random". 18:54 mauvebic updates posted to ufos and pipeworks :-) 18:56 VanessaE mauvebic: maybe I should change the inlet grate to inlet PUMP 18:56 VanessaE like how a car puts the fuel pump into the fuel tank these days 18:56 mauvebic i thought of combining the two 18:57 thexyz VanessaE: why don't you say it to his face? 18:57 mauvebic inlet + pump could be the same, outlet can look more like a big industrial tap? 18:57 VanessaE thexyz: because he can read this channel as well, and besides it wouldn't do any good. 18:59 VanessaE mauvebic: I was thinking the outlet could be made to look like a big spigot or so. 18:59 mauvebic a big one and a small one yeah 18:59 VanessaE hm... 19:00 mauvebic because i want to add water stream (not 1x1x1 in size) 19:00 VanessaE I guess the pump would need to be redesigned to take over the job of the intake grate, alias the two grates to just pipeworks:grating so it's purely decorative, and create a new node for the spigot 19:00 mauvebic well the inlet can look like a combined inlet + pump 19:01 VanessaE yes 19:01 NakedFury +1 for water stream 19:01 mauvebic keep the grate-y texture on the bottom, 19:01 VanessaE exactly my thinking 19:01 VanessaE maybe make the bottom 1/4 of the pump node look like a grate, the rest being the pump body 19:01 VanessaE still only allow connection from the top? 19:02 mauvebic that would certainly make my job easier for flow - the flow pressure would start a 100 from the inlet, and drop by 1 for every pipe segment traversed 19:02 mauvebic top connection yeah 19:02 mauvebic inlet checks for water under & around it 19:03 NakedFury so would water pressure drop twice as much when going up? 19:03 VanessaE now what about a power connection to the pump? do we allow for a mesecons-compatible junction somewhere on it? 19:03 mauvebic ill start with water pressure and thinking about gravity effects later :P 19:03 VanessaE (nevermind how to code that, I just mean its appearance) 19:04 mauvebic where would the mesecon connection go ? 19:04 mauvebic i would suggest mesecons not directly affect devices, just flow 19:04 VanessaE one of the four sides, at the top I guess 19:04 VanessaE well 19:04 VanessaE let's forget about mesecons for the time being 19:05 mauvebic jeija's still rewriting the API too i think? 19:05 VanessaE yeah 19:05 FreeFull If you stand right on the edge of a block 19:05 FreeFull You can't jump 19:05 VanessaE FreeFull: we know. 19:05 mauvebic ah well lets let him finish before writing code that will need to be rewritten 19:05 FreeFull But you can if you sneak :O 19:06 VanessaE lemme see what I can throw together for pipeworks. 19:06 mauvebic i would recommend a simple mesecons valve 19:06 mauvebic to cut or reduce flow 19:06 VanessaE mauvebic: so you agree with my idea letting the pump replace the intake grate with the combined texture, and relegating the two grates to decorative status only? 19:07 VanessaE mesecons valve is a good idea, 19:07 VanessaE and easier to texture for mesecons. 19:07 mauvebic the other way round but yeah same result :-) 19:07 mauvebic keep the nodenames 'intake' and 'outlet" easier to remember for me lol change the description and textures to what you want :-) 19:08 PilzAdam bbl 19:08 VanessaE hm, no... 19:08 VanessaE I think they need to be redone 19:09 VanessaE otherwise they'll make no sense later :-/ 19:09 mauvebic well the flow logic stays the same either way 19:09 VanessaE yeah 19:09 mauvebic so it dont matter to me lol just let me know which ones are supposed to take water and those that are sposed to pour it 19:10 mauvebic oh we do need one thing: 19:10 VanessaE hm? 19:10 mauvebic a full node with a pass-through pipe connection 19:10 OldCoder Hi 19:10 Jordach hey OldCoder 19:10 OldCoder Jordach, Hi 19:11 OldCoder Mika_R, I need to reach Anunakki 19:11 OldCoder He is the host 19:11 mauvebic cuz technically this shoul be airtight: http://www.zimg.eu/i/4034028490 19:11 VanessaE agreed 19:11 OldCoder Mika_R, I simply need to reboot the server. But Phantom Circuit, who has the hardware, says that only Anunakki knows which VPS we have. 19:11 VanessaE but what shall it look like? just glass? a steel plate? 19:12 OldCoder Mika_R, If I cannot reach Anunakki then I will revert to an older copy. 19:12 mauvebic it could be like a 6-way connection node 19:12 OldCoder Mika_R, therefore the world will not be lost 19:12 mauvebic id say metallic 19:12 * OldCoder is tired BTW 19:12 mauvebic keep the same texture theme as the rest 19:12 VanessaE ok. 19:12 * mauvebic hands oldcoder coffee 19:12 * OldCoder does not drink real coffee but gratefully accepts virtual variety 19:12 VanessaE I'll make it a steel pane 2/16 thick intersecting a horizontal pipe. 19:12 OldCoder If anybody sees Anunakki tell him to reboot his VPS 19:13 mauvebic works :-) 19:13 VanessaE I guess a vertical one is needed also? 19:13 mauvebic either a horiz + vertical or a multi-connection node 19:13 mauvebic (like those funky 80's powerbars that started fires lol) 19:14 VanessaE heh 19:14 VanessaE I'll see what I can come up with 19:14 mauvebic coolness :-) when flow works we can (later on) think about adding bigger/double pipes for greater flow 19:15 VanessaE *nod* 19:15 VanessaE also, 19:15 markveidemanis k 19:15 VanessaE do we *really* need two pumps and two valves because of apparent facedir? 19:16 markveidemanis NO! 19:16 VanessaE or shall I delete the extras and make them work with param2 19:16 VanessaE ? 19:16 markveidemanis YES! 19:16 markveidemanis BYE! 19:16 mauvebic ive never made two nodes where 1 + facedir will do 19:16 VanessaE ok. 19:16 mauvebic it also means seperate rules for seperate nodes 19:16 mauvebic whereas with facedir i can 'rotate' the rules 19:16 Obiewan1111 Rendering the first Minetest Quick Build Challenge for the second time. 19:17 Kacey cool^ 19:17 Obiewan1111 Damn youtube took it down because it was "too long". 19:18 Kacey how long was it? 19:18 Obiewan1111 26 mins. 19:18 Kacey wow roosterteeth makes 40 minute videos 19:19 Obiewan1111 It was the first video of the channel. 19:19 Kacey aah 19:23 Kacey is sapier1 on? 19:24 Kacey i guess not 19:25 sapier1 yes I am 19:25 Kacey ooh ok 19:25 Kacey i have a bug with mobf 19:26 sapier1 which one ? 19:26 Obiewan1111 Anyone interested in appearing in the second minetest quick build challenge? 19:26 Kacey when i shear a sheep i get the wool, but it says that sheep_naked is not defined 19:27 sapier1 which version of mobf? 19:27 Kacey latest 19:31 sapier1 thx I'll fix it 19:31 Kacey k 19:42 jojoa1997 hi 19:42 Kacey hello 19:43 jojoa1997 who uses chrome 19:43 mauvebic me 19:43 Kacey i did but then i went to chromium 19:43 jojoa1997 google chrome 19:44 jojoa1997 what is chromium 19:44 mauvebic same thing 19:44 Kacey !up 19:44 moltenbot Minetest server !up:!up DOWN 19:44 jojoa1997 ah 19:44 Kacey !up vanessae.mine.bz 30000 19:44 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP 19:44 mauvebic only diff between chrome and chromium is political lol 19:44 Kacey k it is up 19:45 jojoa1997 just wondering cause chrome sopports irrchle or whatever the minetest code is and we could have an online version of it on chrome 19:45 NakedFury difference chrome is from google and chromium not 19:45 Kacey chromium is open source chrome from google 19:47 Obiewan1111 jojoa, I mucked up the quick build. 19:49 Obiewan1111 Gonna have to re-do it, because it's 20 mins long. :/ 19:50 jojoa1997 why 20 minutes 19:50 FreeFull Is rhubarb useless without the food mod? 19:50 Obiewan1111 I didn't put a timer on. 19:50 Obiewan1111 Sorry. 19:51 Obiewan1111 And because I was interupted for like 4 secs. 19:52 jojoa1997 i really dont want to do it again i liked my place why not just show the people the finished places 19:52 jojoa1997 OldCoder, you there? 19:52 Obiewan1111 I destroyed them. 19:53 jojoa1997 really 19:53 Obiewan1111 Yes. 19:53 OldCoder jojoa1997, yes 19:53 OldCoder jojoa1997, the npc mod crashes 19:53 OldCoder did markv speak with you? 19:53 jojoa1997 maybe i did not update it 19:53 jojoa1997 yes 19:53 Obiewan1111 It doesn't have to be this week jojoa.. 19:53 jojoa1997 get rid of npc 19:53 jojoa1997 obie ok 19:54 OldCoder jojoa1997, we did temporarily 19:54 OldCoder jojoa1997, the world is up 19:54 OldCoder you have full privs 19:54 OldCoder go design and build 19:56 Kacey testing... 19:56 Kacey can you see me? 19:57 Obiewan1111 Yes. 19:57 Kacey k 20:03 Obiewan1111 See ya guys. 20:06 Kacey aaagh silence 20:07 jojoa1997 you dont have silence you have me 20:07 Jordach hmm 20:07 Jordach i have a question 20:07 * jojoa1997 is playing all the instruments seen in The Grinch Who Stole Christmas 20:08 jojoa1997 what question 20:08 * Kacey is sitting in a dark room 20:08 Jordach has ANYONE tried to place a player skin in textures/all and see if it works? 20:08 Kacey yea.... nope never 20:09 jojoa1997 you mean in default 20:10 Kacey damn internet 20:12 * Jordach is testing this thoery 20:12 Jordach also, can someone go onto VanessaE's server 20:12 * Kacey is going to kill his ISP pretty soon 20:12 Jordach her* 20:12 Kacey im going to get off for a while so bbl 20:14 jojoa1997 joining Jordach 20:15 Jordach preferably a default player without a added skib 20:15 Jordach skin 20:17 Jordach VanessaE, could you just logon to your server 20:18 Kacey back lol 20:19 NakedFury almost a whole minute passed Kacey 20:19 Kacey lol i figured out the problem 20:19 Kacey it was my computer 20:23 Jordach can someone log onto VanessaE's server with a random name?> like asidhfpuasnfsdf 20:24 Kacey y? 20:24 Jordach testing if skins work from texture pack directory 20:25 Kacey ooh ok 20:25 Kacey i cant though lol 20:27 VanessaE mauvebic: is there any functional reason why a bare pipe can't just pour water right out without the need for a spigot? 20:27 mauvebic would prolly crash your server everytime a user cuts a section of pipe (intentional or not) 20:27 mauvebic big messes lol 20:28 VanessaE heh, good point 20:28 mauvebic most smart pipes today (oil ones anyways) have an automatic shutoff 20:28 Jordach VanessaE, can i ask you something 20:28 VanessaE hm? 20:28 Jordach logon to your serv with a random name 20:29 Jordach i wanna see if textures load from textures/all for skins 20:29 VanessaE not right now, kinda busy 20:32 Jordach damn VanessaE, i was hoping to test said thing 20:32 VanessaE ok, I'm there. 20:33 Jordach IT WORKS 20:33 VanessaE cool 20:33 Jordach (i made a megaman skin) 20:34 Jordach thanks VanessaE 20:35 VanessaE no prob. 20:35 Jordach VanessaE, worked out my new years resolution: http://i.imgur.com/rfHSS.jpg 20:35 VanessaE hah! 20:37 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ZPyOg.png <- VanessaE 20:37 * Jordach sees skin needs fixing 20:37 Jordach :O 20:38 Jordach thats strange. 20:38 Jordach really strange 20:39 Jordach ehm, Taoki[laptop] 20:39 sapier1 hello is anyone interested in showing formspecs to player from lua? 20:40 mauvebic pipeworks + aeroponics : http://www.zimg.eu/i/2547623931 20:40 Jordach Taoki[laptop], apparently the legs of a minecraft skin are broken 20:40 Taoki[laptop] broken how? 20:40 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ZPyOg.png 20:41 Taoki[laptop] What's wrong? 20:42 Jordach it should look like this: http://i.imgur.com/MADKa.jpg 20:43 Jordach (and the legs are mirrored) 20:43 Taoki[laptop] ah, I can see where there's a mirroring error 20:43 Taoki[laptop] Is it the same on the back side of legs? 20:43 Jordach yes 20:43 Taoki[laptop] Need to fix it when I get home 20:43 Taoki[laptop] ok 20:43 Jordach (well. couldnt see) 20:44 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGlVtNXLMmA&NR=1 haha im dying from this 20:45 Obiewan1111 Lol. 20:45 Kacey omg its hilarious 20:46 VanessaE mauvebic: I'm about to push an update to the gitub repo in a few mins. I think I'm done. 20:46 Obiewan1111 Never heard the word "F*ck" more in a video 20:46 mauvebic same link as on the forums? 20:46 mauvebic i get lost on github 20:46 mauvebic lol 20:47 Kacey lol 20:47 VanessaE yeah, it'll be the same link 20:47 Obiewan1111 Lol. The medal bit. Ehmagad. 20:49 mauvebic coolness :-)_ 20:49 mauvebic i wish id learned to program VCR's back when, i might have an easier time on git lol 20:50 Jordach Taoki[laptop], http://imgur.com/a/olvW8 20:50 moltenbot Jordach's link: Photo Album - Imgur 20:51 jojoa1997 that video is so funny 20:51 Taoki[laptop] ok, will look home 20:51 Obiewan1111 @Kacey, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx7a6MwJ3Us 20:51 moltenbot Obiewan1111's link: Let's Play - Farm Simulator 2013 - YouTube 20:52 Obiewan1111 That's even funnier. 20:52 Jordach is that yogscastlalna by chance? 20:52 Jordach you know, duncan 20:53 Jordach nope. achievement hunter. 20:53 * Jordach prefers Rage Quit and Fails of the Weak 20:54 Obiewan1111 One guy just keeps on saying can I put my d**k in this thing? 20:57 Mika_R vanessaE, why is the viewing range almost as full viewing range (R-key) when it should be disabled? only difference is light, just dropped to 8fps 20:57 Obiewan1111 Press Ctrl and - 20:58 Obiewan1111 To lower it. 20:58 VanessaE dunno, I think the game default got turned way up recently. 20:58 Kacey haha farm simualtor lol 20:58 Obiewan1111 And Shift and + to increase it. 20:58 Mika_R Kacey, ? 20:59 Kacey [13:51] @Kacey, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx7a6MwJ3Us 20:59 Kacey [ 20:59 moltenbot Kacey's link: Let's Play - Farm Simulator 2013 - YouTube 20:59 Kacey lol it gets funnier 21:00 * Jordach wonders on how to beat moltenbot's link notifier 21:00 Mika_R kacey, dont know what you think but it's a good game, but needs mods 21:01 Kacey i need to buy it 21:01 Jordach Kacey, did not read manual; dick stuck in xbox tray 21:01 Kacey lol 21:04 mauvebic http://www.zimg.eu/i/2131155790 21:06 VanessaE mauvebic: git updated. 21:06 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks 21:06 mauvebic DL\ed 21:06 mauvebic *dl'ed 21:07 VanessaE How's that look? 21:07 VanessaE (I did not use your patches yet, you'll want to re-apply your code) 21:08 mauvebic so this version declares one peice of each type and uses facedir? 21:09 VanessaE the pipes are unchanged - I reworked the devices only to use facedir (and tweaked the autoplace algorithm to compensate) 21:09 Obiewan1111 Can you link it with the toilet mod? 21:09 mauvebic okie dokie :-) 21:09 Obiewan1111 So you can connect pipes to a toilet.. 21:09 Obiewan1111 mod that includes toilets* 21:10 VanessaE Obiewan1111: someone has to modify the toilet (3dforniture mod) so it has a proper fitting to connect to a pipe :-) 21:10 VanessaE mauvebic: I haven't added the airtight panel/pipe thingy yet 21:11 mauvebic no biggie, i can always use a grate with a connector face on all sides :-) 21:11 mauvebic and draw little caps on them 21:11 mauvebic (cuz if theres nothing connected they should be capped lol) 21:13 VanessaE *nod* 21:13 VanessaE I'll add it, I just didn't get to it yet 21:29 VanessaE mauvebic: added it. please re-pull 21:29 VanessaE just horizontal for now, didn't think a vertical version was really needed yet. 21:30 VanessaE this one has different rules than the other devices - I oriented the model along the Z axis this time, to make it easier to place. 21:37 vibe-x hi all :) 21:37 Kacey hello 21:37 Kacey ooh hai markv 21:38 markveidemanis hi 21:38 Vibe-X im back again in town :P 21:38 * VanessaE pokes at mauvebic for signs of life 21:39 mauvebic pulled :-) 21:39 * Kacey screams behind VanessaE really loud 21:39 mauvebic sry lots of phone calls today from family in a few diff countries lol 21:39 * VanessaE clobbers Kacey 21:39 * Kacey plays dead 21:40 VanessaE mauvebic: ah. happy new years' wishes I'm sure :-) 21:41 * Obiewan1111 Wishes everyone a Happy New Year! :D 21:42 mauvebic yeah, some of them in groggy lol 21:42 Vibe-X just one question about the world generation, i read "Almost infinite world and a fairly good map generator (limited to +-31000 blocks in all directions at the moment)" 21:42 Vibe-X is that beacuse of the sqlite3 file? 21:43 Vibe-X that there are file restrictions (32bit) ? 21:43 VanessaE I think the choice was somewhat arbitrary 21:44 Vibe-X mh i hope that will be increased :) and the type of saving would be cahnged :/ 21:44 Vibe-X i think 1 file will be corrupted easier then in minecraft e.g. 21:45 mauvebic testing waterflow to aeroponics trays and then ill take a look at the updated zipball 21:49 Kacey anyone have an old MC account that they dont want 21:50 Obiewan1111 Dude. 21:50 Obiewan1111 Stay at minetest 21:50 Muadtralk PIRACY!!!!!!! It's a wonderful wonderful thing! 21:50 * Muadtralk breaks into song and dance number 21:50 Kacey i am i am thinking about stealing some code/ ideas from MC 21:50 Obiewan1111 In a few releases, we'll be better than mc. 21:51 Muadtralk if you just want to check out what MC has http://mineshafter.appspot.com/ 21:51 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Mineshafter 21:51 mauvebic victory! trays filling up: http://www.zimg.eu/i/1441043057 21:52 VanessaE yay!!!! 21:52 VanessaE now, you'll need to tweak your rules, the spigot is horizontal connect, and pours vertically 21:53 VanessaE like the faucet on your bathtub or garden hose 21:53 mauvebic functions are written just need to adapt to new devices now :-) (easu) 21:53 VanessaE I'm working on crafting recipes 21:53 Kacey afk 21:57 Vibe-X vanessa? whioch functions? in c or is it a mod, what you are coding? :) 21:57 VanessaE a mod 21:57 Vibe-X ah which one, if i are allowed to ask 21:57 VanessaE my pipeworks mod 21:57 VanessaE mauvebic and I are working on improvements to it 21:57 Vibe-X ah i read about i think 21:59 Obiewan1111 Anyone else wishing to participate in the minetest quick build challenge? 22:00 Vibe-X what is this? 22:00 Vibe-X build as fast you can? 22:01 Vibe-X VanessaE, is the master zipball the newest version ,or do i need to download from the git? 22:01 VanessaE Vibe-X: master zipball, but I have more stuff on the way, so you should wait for a bit yet 22:01 Obiewan1111 Vibe, you have 10 mins to build a chosen topic against me. 22:02 Obiewan1111 Winner if the person with the most votes from the comments section in youtube. 22:02 Vibe-X of course, i just interested which option would be newer, but i think after git update the master zip will be updated too 22:02 Vibe-X ah nice idea @Obi 22:02 kaeza hello everyone 22:02 Vibe-X hi 22:03 Obiewan1111 Minecraft did it first. But.. Who cares? 22:03 VanessaE mauvebic: crafts updated. Please pull. 22:04 Vibe-X minecraft needs years to update and is not interested in ideas and wishes from normal users 22:04 Kacey ooh hai kaeza 22:04 kaeza hey Kacey 22:04 VanessaE Vibe-X: in theory, either link will work - it's just that the zipball doesn't give you all the commit history, so you can't use it to develop patches with. 22:04 Vibe-X the plugins make minecraft interesting... nothing more. minecraft as itself is uninterested 22:05 Kacey lol found myself lost in mc for a while 22:05 Vibe-X ah okay, alright. thought the git would have "stable" and dev maybe. but i will have a look on it, thank ;) 22:05 Vibe-X i got a mc server by myself, but will create public server for minetest 22:06 Vibe-X but the name "minetest" make people think, it is just a test not a real game :/ 22:06 Kacey true true 22:06 Vibe-X hard to explain friends :D 22:06 TorpedoSkyline why not change the name to Opencraft? 22:06 Vibe-X ask c55 and the crew :D 22:06 TorpedoSkyline hehe ;P 22:06 Vibe-X but i ask me about license of minetest 22:07 Vibe-X if i would start a minetest server community with open server, am i allowed to make a ready to go package and offer on my webste 22:07 Vibe-X or am i just allowed to send to c55 page or git 22:09 Kacey we should work on an item_hold mod 22:10 Obiewan1111 You mean so people can see what you're holding? 22:10 Kacey yep 22:10 Obiewan1111 Agreed. 22:10 kaeza disagree 22:10 Kacey why 22:11 kaeza because in that case, with the bones mod, everyone will go after anyone that has a valuable item 22:11 RealBadAngel Vibe-X, you can modify, compile and publish your own version. 22:11 Kacey true but we should make it optional 22:12 Kacey like so you can turn it of 22:12 Kacey off* 22:12 Vibe-X i dont want to publish, but sometimes it is easier to create a full package and offer stupid users ;) 22:12 RealBadAngel so make it 22:12 kaeza s/stupid/not knowledgeable/ 22:12 RealBadAngel or use thexyz's or sfan5's ones 22:13 Exio hey kaeza 22:13 iqualfragile ruskie: you are on libretree, arent you? 22:13 RealBadAngel http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ 22:13 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: Sfan5's Minetest Builds 22:13 kaeza hey Exio 22:13 Exio the irc-mod is showing in the irc every command :P 22:13 kaeza ? 22:14 kaeza what do you mean? 22:14 Kacey lol if you say /home in game it shows it in irc channel 22:14 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4240 22:14 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 22:14 thexyz Vibe-X: you should provide source when providing binary builds 22:14 kaeza oh right I know about that 22:15 thexyz oh, well, I forgot to make it sticky 22:15 thexyz now I'll get much more attention 22:15 kaeza Kacey, Exio: I will try to filter these things 22:16 Kacey idc about it but Exio does apparently 22:16 vibe-x @kaeza -> some are stupid and dont want to learn :D# 22:17 Kacey VanessaE: i am making a new skin for me on your server 22:17 kaeza|jEdit vibe-x: true lol 22:18 kaeza|jEdit but it still sounds a bit less offensive that way 22:18 vibe-x yeah okay you're right 22:18 jeffrash john_minetest, can you join Zeg9's world and help me with a teleporter? 22:19 kaeza|jEdit Kacey, Exio: --> #minetest-irc-testing 22:20 VanessaE kaeza|jEdit: ok 22:20 kaeza VanessaE: ? 22:20 VanessaE d'oh 22:20 VanessaE Kacey: ok. 22:20 kaeza (20:14:17) Kacey: VanessaE: i am making a new skin for me on your server 22:21 VanessaE tab completion FAIL 22:21 kaeza lol 22:22 VanessaE mauvebic: *poke* 22:23 * Kacey screams again but runs off 22:27 VanessaE there, forum thread is updated to account for today's work on Pipeworks. at least, for the part I'm doing. 22:29 Kacey cant find the save button 22:30 sapier1 hello does anyone have experience with detached inventories? 22:30 Kacey nope 22:36 RealBadAngel sapier1, whats the problem? 22:37 sapier1 on changeing a item in a detached inventory it seems to look for callbacks linked to it (theres a typo in info message too) 22:37 * PilzAdam is back 22:38 sapier1 ant when trying to access the detached inventory it tells that no detached inventory exists 22:38 sapier1 by that name 22:38 RealBadAngel can you show me your code? 22:39 sapier1 Of course, but I'm about to add a new feature to core so you probably need some information more than my code 22:40 sapier1 http://pastebin.com/LY17nzMB 22:40 moltenbot sapier1's link: minetest.register_entity("testmod:rct", { physical = false, collisi - Pastebin.com 22:40 sapier1 i think relevant info is starting from line 30 22:42 sapier1 showing the detached formspec combined with detached inventory already works I'm currently testing if everythin is working as expected but I don't have any experience with detached_inventorys 22:44 RealBadAngel sapier1, "list[detached:testinv;main;0,3;1,1;]" .. 22:44 RealBadAngel use this 22:45 * VanessaE pokes at mauvebic for signs of life 22:45 sapier1 great :-) it's working thanks 22:45 * Kacey screams behind VanessaE and then runs off 22:47 sapier1 @realBadAngel where to put core improovements for review? 22:47 sapier1 this special improvement will add npc trader support to minetest ;-) 22:48 RealBadAngel sapier1, to minetest_game or the engine? 22:49 sapier1 engine there hasn't been any way to show a formspec from lua by now 22:50 mauvebic sorry having trouble with trays facedir/connections 22:50 Kacey mauvebic: link to the pipes mod please? 22:51 mauvebic see pipes thread 22:52 mauvebic my local copy is full of partially working stuff lol 22:52 Kacey lol 22:52 VanessaE mauvebic: pull from git again 22:52 VanessaE more minor tweaks (bug fix, etc) 22:52 VanessaE I think I need to change the default orientation of the spigot to align along Z instead of X 22:52 VanessaE easier to place, that way 22:53 kaeza|jEdit mauvebic: does the outlet put water source or flowing? 22:53 mauvebic source always 22:53 mauvebic flowing evaporates 22:53 RealBadAngel sapier1, post pull request to https://github.com/celeron55/minetest 22:53 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 22:53 mauvebic or disapears 22:53 mauvebic however people like to think about it 22:54 kaeza|jEdit k 22:54 mauvebic i wanna make a nodebox water stream thats much narrower for small spihots 22:54 mauvebic *spigots 22:54 sapier1 @realbadangel thx I'm gonna do some cleanup and post a pull request 22:58 Kacey all i got in that mod was an inlet grate, pipe segment, outlet grate, and exp (?) outlet grate 22:58 Kacey am i supposed to download VanessaE's version also? 22:58 VanessaE mauvebic: spigot changed. one last git pull plz :-) 22:59 mauvebic id rename one of the two kacey until i can sync 22:59 Kacey ooh ok 23:01 mauvebic trying to get the aeroponics equipment working w/ the pipes then ill get back to the devices and updating fucntions for the new parts 23:03 Kacey VanessaE: having problems with the pipeworks mod 23:03 VanessaE Kacey: it is in flux right now. Whatever copy you have is probably already outdated :D 23:03 Kacey i just got it 23:03 Muadtralk good now get it again 23:03 VanessaE what's the problem/ 23:03 Muadtralk and again 23:04 Kacey i had to rename it and then something in init.lua 23:04 jojoa1997 how do i push a repo in github using the shell 23:04 Kacey alright got it 23:04 VanessaE jojoa1997: cd to the folder; git add . ; git commit -a (and write a message in the editor that coems up) ; git push 23:05 VanessaE comes* 23:05 VanessaE Kacey: what is the problem you're having? (use pastebin if more than one line) 23:05 jojoa1997 nvm 23:05 Kacey idk but i got it 23:05 VanessaE Kacey, regarding renaming... from the first post in the forum: "Install: Download and unzip the above file, rename VanessaE-pipeworks-blahblah to just "pipeworks", and move it into Minetest's mods directory." 23:05 mauvebic might be easier to copy paste your game folder and put the different pipeworks in one of them 23:06 Kacey i put one pipworks in the other 23:06 VanessaE you can't do that. 23:06 VanessaE don't install both, only install one or the other. 23:06 Kacey uugh i dont get the pump out of either 23:07 jojoa1997 this right 23:07 jojoa1997 # Initial commit update 23:07 jojoa1997 # Initial commit 23:07 jojoa1997 update 23:07 VanessaE jojoa1997: your commit message should be at least a couple of lines describing what the commit is for - what you updates, and why 23:07 VanessaE updated* 23:07 jojoa1997 okay 23:08 Kacey ok got it 23:09 Kacey now how do i get it to work? 23:12 VanessaE Kacey: don't try to use it yet. It is not in anything close to a final state yet 23:12 Kacey i want to move water though 23:13 Kacey mauvebic: how did you get it to work? 23:13 vibe-x VanessaE, is there any wiki entry or hoto use your pipe mod? how to use the blocks? 23:14 VanessaE vibe-x: not yet. 23:14 vibe-x alright, so i wil have just a try :D 23:15 Kacey crap... 23:16 Kacey does there have to be water under the pump? 23:16 VanessaE there, another tweak to fix a rotation error... 23:16 mrtux Hello LAD 23:16 LAD hey mrtux 23:16 LAD i have a qestion 23:16 LAD what is a licence for a mod?? 23:17 LAD ive made a mod but dont know what or how to fin the licene for it 23:17 vibe-x VanessaE, a pump/intake do i need to stand it in water e.g.? or how to use it? :) 23:17 LAD i gtg cya later guy/girls 23:18 Kacey HOW DO I DO THIS?!?!?! 23:18 VanessaE vibe-x: they don't work yet, but when they do, the idea is that you submerge it in water. 23:18 VanessaE like a fuel pump in a car 23:18 Kacey mauvebic got it to work 23:18 LAD hey VanessaE?? 23:18 VanessaE hi LAD. 23:18 LAD what's a licence for a mod? 23:19 vibe-x ah alright van 23:19 VanessaE LAD: whatever you want to use. WTFPL, GPL, cc-by-sa, whatever you like. 23:19 LAD idk what thous are 23:19 VanessaE LAD: google it :-) 23:19 LAD so can i just put one of thous randomly on my forums post?? 23:20 VanessaE LAD: figure out which license you want to use, then say so in the forum post. 23:20 LAD ok 23:20 * PilzAdam is reading the -deb logs 23:20 VanessaE LAD: once you choose a license, stick with it. Don't just randomly pick one or change from release to release. 23:20 PilzAdam seems like i missed the new years party there 23:20 PilzAdam (damn W-LAN crashed) 23:22 * OldCoder will be back a little later 23:23 mauvebic yay got facedir/connection ruleset working http://www.zimg.eu/i/3377427258 23:23 mauvebic brb 23:25 VanessaE nice 23:25 VanessaE but don't rely on this - you need to prepare to use a spigot now :-) 23:27 Kacey thank god for github :) 23:28 Kacey but its not working :( 23:28 Kacey still 23:28 VanessaE Kacey: it isn't done yet. It won't work until it is done. 23:28 Kacey uugh ok 23:29 Kacey but mauvebic has a working version 23:29 Kacey unless he cheated like i just did 23:29 VanessaE he's adding a feature to my code to make the mod able to move water. 23:30 VanessaE which one did you get, mine or his? 23:30 Kacey i used github to get it 23:30 Kacey probably yours then 23:30 VanessaE then you have the version that won't move water yet. 23:30 VanessaE mauvebic's code has not been merged upstream to my repository yet. 23:31 Kacey where can i get his code? 23:33 Muadtralk didnt the oil mod transport liquids somehow? 23:33 Muadtralk sort of transport them.... 23:33 PilzAdam it doesnt have rules to transport it IRC 23:33 VanessaE Muadtralk: unreliably I guess. This is a more generic one. 23:33 Muadtralk ahhhh 23:33 VanessaE Kacey: http://ompldr.org/vZ3dtaA/pipeworks-exp-010113-min.zip 23:33 VanessaE Kacey: but *just wait for us to finish!!!& 23:34 Kacey ok ok i guess ill start on a mod... 23:35 RealBadAngel it doesnt transport anythin in fact from what i saw, it just takes water at one end and puts it on anoter 23:35 RealBadAngel but it works 23:36 Kacey i cant get it to work at all :( 23:37 VanessaE Kacey: this only works in mauvebic's code: Place an intake grate into water. run pipes around and connect an outlet grate. Be sure you dig a hole to receive the water. 23:37 VanessaE water should start pumping immediately. 23:39 Kacey i deleted minetest from this computer already 23:39 VanessaE why> 23:39 Kacey it is not my computer 23:40 VanessaE oh 23:40 Kacey ya 23:40 kaeza why does everyone keep using that silly table["fieldname"] syntax instead of table.fieldname? O_o 23:42 VanessaE inertia? :-) 23:42 VanessaE why do I still use separate register_on_punchnode() calls instead of on_punch = {} inside a register_node() call? :-) 23:42 Kacey i cannot understand a word you are saying 23:42 kaeza hehe 23:43 PilzAdam VanessaE, because you are obsolete? VanessaE 2.0 is already in the shops 23:43 VanessaE VanessaE 2.0 is buggy ;) 23:44 kaeza $ git clone http://github.com/gawd/VanessaE 23:44 kaeza testing... 23:44 Muadtralk then I suggest getting the expansion pack 23:45 Muadtralk with lasers and shark teeth 23:45 VanessaE kaeza: Some exception 23:45 PilzAdam kaeza, you need the hardware too 23:45 kaeza :P 23:46 kaeza hehe want something really silly? 23:48 kaeza _G["minetest"]["env"]["add_node"](_G["minetest"]["env"], { ["x"]=0, ["y"]=0, ["z"]=0 }, { [ "name" ] = "default:dirt" }) 23:49 Exio you should use brainfuck the next time 23:50 kaeza hehehe 23:50 kaeza the fun fact is that that statement is valid 23:51 kaeza and is exactly equivalent to minetest.env:add_node({x=0,y=0,z=0},{name="default:dirt"}) 23:52 Exio i still don't get what _G["minetest"]["env"] does after the first thing 23:52 Exio _G["minetest"]["env"]["add_node"]( .. _G["minetest"]["env"], ... 23:54 kaeza Exio: from the Lua manual: "To represent records, Lua uses the field name as an index. The language supports this representation by providing a.name as syntactic sugar for a["name"]. There are several convenient ways to create tables in Lua (see §2.5.7)." 23:54 Exio kaeza: i don't mean that 23:54 kaeza wrong quote 23:54 Exio i mean, you have 3 parameters in the _G[blablah] and 2 in the 'short' way 23:55 kaeza Exio: again from the Lua manual: The form can be used to call "methods". A call v:name(args) is syntactic sugar for v.name(v,args), except that v is evaluated only once. 23:56 Exio ah, the 'self' value 23:56 kaeza yup 23:56 Exio i didn't remember that :P 23:58 kaeza and in case you are wondering: _G: A global variable (not a function) that holds the global environment (that is, _G._G = _G). 23:58 sapier1 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/383 -- This pull request is essential to take player <-> mob interaction to a new level plz review 23:58 moltenbot sapier1's link: add lua support for displaying formspecs for detached inventories by sapier ? Pull Request #383 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 23:59 kaeza IDK, that should merit a version bump, right? 23:59 ruskie iqualfragile, yes 23:59 kaeza because of changes in the protocol 23:59 iqualfragile oh, wow, you scrolled up that far?