Time  Nick           Message
00:01 OldCoder       cosarara97, wb
00:02 OldCoder       Dogzilla131, Hi!
00:02 OldCoder       Dogzilla131, PM
00:02 jojoa1997      anyone know a site that uploads pictures
00:03 jojoa1997      nvm
00:04 jojoa1997      has anyone seen the pocket edition for minetest http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3532
00:04 moltenbot      jojoa1997's link: Pocket Edition (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
00:09 iqualfragile1  jojoa1997: nope, but i dont think that will be done soon
00:09 jojoa1997      what will
00:09 OldCoder       Are animals still High CPU?
00:09 OldCoder       Dogzilla131 wants them
00:09 jojoa1997      the pocket edition
00:09 iqualfragile1  jup
00:10 OldCoder       Pocket Animals?
00:10 OldCoder       iqualfragile1, how crashy are they?
00:10 iqualfragile1  OldCoder: yeah, the animals are still using alot of cpu
00:10 jojoa1997      <jojoa1997> has anyone seen the pocket edition for minetest http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3532
00:10 moltenbot      jojoa1997's link: Pocket Edition (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
00:10 kaeza          back
00:10 OldCoder       iqualfragile1, Can I reduce speed or something?
00:10 sapier1        @oldcoder I'm not sure I've just released a new version completely removing abm based spawning
00:10 kaeza          hey Dogzilla131
00:10 Dogzilla131    hi kaeza
00:10 OldCoder       sapier1, are you the animals author? Comment please. I am interested.
00:10 iqualfragile1  but you can try to blacklist all the mobs
00:10 OldCoder       iqualfragile1, Go on
00:10 jojoa1997      not npc i have seen thye cpu go down with them sometimes
00:10 iqualfragile1  and then enable them step by step
00:10 OldCoder       I may try this
00:10 iqualfragile1  yes he is
00:10 sapier1        If I'm correct this will reduce lag drastically ... BUT there's still github issue 229
00:11 OldCoder       sapier1, what is it?
00:11 OldCoder       229?
00:11 iqualfragile1  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/229
00:11 OldCoder       If people will comment I will try animals now
00:11 moltenbot      iqualfragile1's link: Server hang while processing entities with acceleration (e.g. animals mod) / bad_alloc crash ? Issue #229 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
00:11 OldCoder       R
00:11 iqualfragile1  brb
00:12 OldCoder       Hmm
00:12 OldCoder       I'd rather not crash
00:12 sapier1        It'll take some time to crash depending how much memory your machine has
00:12 OldCoder       Is the workaround reliable?
00:13 OldCoder       Kacey, Hi
00:13 sapier1        reliable as I'm using it for months now .. but not reliable as in not changeing movement
00:13 OldCoder       sapier1, the workaround prevents crashes?
00:13 sapier1        yes it does
00:13 iqualfragile   sapier1: nope its not, minetest crashed 2 times (3-4 days ago)
00:14 sapier1        with same error?
00:14 iqualfragile   there was no error
00:14 iqualfragile   but the minetest-server got unresponsive for more then 5 minutes
00:15 sapier1        possibly another error?
00:15 OldCoder       What about fireworks and industrial? Those are requested too
00:15 sapier1        this workaround won't stop minetest from becoming unresponsive if you do overload server by purpose
00:15 OldCoder       Overload in what context?
00:16 OldCoder       Are there any other changes or patches I might add?
00:16 OldCoder       To reduce problems?
00:16 sapier1        as in attached example code do acceleration by 10000
00:16 OldCoder       Can you elaborate?
00:17 iqualfragile   sapier1: i did not overload it by purpose, i have just git clone git://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack.git
00:17 sapier1        @iqualfragile current git is unstable so there still might be other bugs
00:17 iqualfragile   that was 2-3 days ago
00:18 sapier1        no not quite "might"...I'm sure there are bugs in mobf at
00:18 sapier1        m
00:18 iqualfragile   and when the server hung up there were a lot of vombies and they were burnig
00:19 sapier1        :-) so you had thousands of entities at once ;-) that's nearly same as triggering overload on purpose ;-)
00:19 jojoa1997      make the vombies spawn less
00:19 iqualfragile   sapier1: how about changing the mobf defaults then?
00:20 sapier1        It's the burn animation doing overload ... minetest seems to work well with lots of entities ... I was thinking about that too
00:20 sapier1        making burn animation disabled by default
00:21 sapier1        I think there's a bug in sun damage system too making it even worse
00:22 sapier1        btw I've fixed gull movement in current git version
00:23 OldCoder       If I volunteer to run this, what should I patch?
00:23 OldCoder       Aside from the one line change in the GitHub issue
00:23 sapier1        if you test latest mobf I strongly recomend adding the workaround from 229
00:24 OldCoder       Should I just block mobf?
00:24 OldCoder       What was iqualfragile suggesting?
00:24 iqualfragile   nope
00:24 iqualfragile   mobf has a build-in blacklist
00:24 sapier1        don't use mobf 1.9 in production by now
00:24 iqualfragile   you can blacklist most of the mobs
00:24 OldCoder       Any other changes or patches?
00:24 OldCoder       iqualfragile, Would you like to patch a copy for me?
00:24 jeffrash_nexus John, you online?
00:25 iqualfragile   OldCoder: thats a setting, no need to change any sources
00:25 jojoa1997      jeffrash_nexus: GO ANDROIDS
00:25 OldCoder       But I'd like the setting changed in my copy
00:25 OldCoder       So I need two patches: 229 and that one
00:25 OldCoder       iqualfragile, Willing to produce a copy?
00:26 iqualfragile   jup @pm
00:26 OldCoder       iqualfragile, I have PMd
00:27 sapier1        A little warning 1.9.5 has entity based spawn eggs ... blacklisting a mob AND enable removing of disabled mobs will remove those spawn eggs but if you delete mobf prior all of them are removed you'll have lots of unknown objects in your world
00:28 OldCoder       sapier1, Not if I use this for the first time now
00:28 OldCoder       Correct?
00:29 jeffrash_nexus OldCoder is 30015 down?
00:29 sapier1        the eggs are distributed on mapgen as soon as mobf is loaded
00:30 sapier1        maybe I'd really switch from black to whitelisting
00:31 iqualfragile   !up oldcoder.org 30015
00:31 moltenbot      Minetest server oldcoder.org:30015 DOWN
00:32 Kacey          hello sorry i have been afk all day
00:33 OldCoder       iqualfragile, jeffrash_nexus I am updating
00:33 OldCoder       That is what this discussion is about
00:33 OldCoder       Adding Animals
00:33 OldCoder       jeffrash_nexus, ^
00:34 sapier1        @oldcoder plz make a backup copy of your world prior updating
00:34 jeffrash_nexus Cool.  Thanks.
00:34 OldCoder       sapier1, Made it earlier ty
00:37 sapier1        @oldcoder plz tell me the bugs you find
00:37 OldCoder       sapier1, Still deciding if it is even practical to use this
00:37 OldCoder       Hold on ty
00:37 OldCoder       sapier1, iqualfragile says to use older version
00:38 OldCoder       animals_modpack-1.4.6.zip
00:38 OldCoder       O.K. Two patches...
00:39 sapier1        1.4.6 is more stable but missing lots of features 1.9.x has ... while 1.9.x is not ready for general usage ... I'd prefere having bugreports for 1.9.x but I do understand if you don't have time for it
00:41 OldCoder       sapier1, I am more concerned about crashes than time
00:42 OldCoder       sapier1, What file should I edit for the 229 patch?
00:42 Muadtralk      I remember when i used that mod....
00:42 OldCoder       Muadtralk, go on
00:42 sapier1        collision.cpp
00:42 Muadtralk      i tweaked it to run with hardly any lag
00:42 Muadtralk      it never crashed
00:42 OldCoder       Do you have your version?
00:42 sapier1        1.4.6?
00:42 Muadtralk      its so outdated it doesnt work
00:43 OldCoder       Hmm
00:43 Muadtralk      it was like 0.x something
00:43 Jakssoul       Heyy-lo.
00:43 OldCoder       sapier1, you mean I'll need to rebuild core, then. O.K.
00:43 OldCoder       sapier1, that is a core patch?
00:43 sapier1        yes
00:43 OldCoder       hold on
00:44 sapier1        without this patch NO mobf version will be safe to use
00:44 OldCoder       Working on it
00:44 OldCoder       O.K. Editing.
00:44 OldCoder       Can you give me any context?
00:45 OldCoder       I don't see any CollisionMoveSimple
00:45 OldCoder       in the file
00:45 jojoa1997      yay display blocks 1.4 is out http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60358#p60358
00:45 moltenbot      jojoa1997's link: [Mod] Display Blocks [1.4] [display_blocks] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
00:46 OldCoder       Is anybody able to tell me what to patch in collision.cpp ?
00:46 sapier1        about line 189
00:46 OldCoder       collisionMoveSimple
00:46 sapier1        add "dtime = MYMIN(dtime,0.5);"
00:46 OldCoder       Lower case. O.K.
00:46 OldCoder       Right before...
00:46 sapier1        before first usage of dtime
00:46 OldCoder       speed_f += accel_f * dtime;
00:46 OldCoder       ?
00:46 OldCoder       ScopeProfiler sp(g_profiler, "collisionMoveSimple avg", SPT_AVG);
00:47 OldCoder       After that is O.K. ?
00:47 sapier1        yes between those two lines
00:47 OldCoder       k
00:47 OldCoder       Others: Is animals 1.4.6 fun?
00:48 sapier1        I don't know if there are many ppl out there using it with this patch applied without it it'll be rather anoying than fun
00:48 OldCoder       Hmm
00:48 OldCoder       But that is the majority
00:49 OldCoder       So most people don't enjoy animals?
00:49 * OldCoder     is curious
00:49 babyface1031   i would like to try it
00:50 babyface1031   is there a link to the forum i can look at?
00:50 sapier1        http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629
00:50 moltenbot      sapier1's link: [Mod] MOB Framework [1.9.5 / spawning reworked] [mobf] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
00:50 sapier1        as told before 1.9.x is quite unstable atm but has lots of new features
00:51 OldCoder       babyface1031, I think he says that it needs this patch
00:52 jeffrash_nexus I like the animals.  As long as there aren't to many in one place.
00:52 babyface1031   thats fine i just want to look at it so if you put it on i will know somewhat how to use it :D
00:52 OldCoder       I plan to try
00:53 sapier1        @jeffrash_nexus there shouldn't be many mobs of same type next to each other did you have that happen?
00:54 jeffrash_nexus I made it happen myself in minecraft.
00:54 sapier1        :-) ok by purpose you can do it in mobf too
00:55 jeffrash_nexus 64 pigs in the same location.
00:57 sapier1        have a try it might even work with sheep
00:57 sapier1        no guarantee ;-)
00:57 jeffrash_nexus yep, sheep and cows and chickens too
01:09 sapier1        wooh ... spawning entity style seem to be even worse than abm style :-(
01:12 OldCoder       Oh, well
01:12 OldCoder       it will get better
01:12 OldCoder       It is about experimenting
01:16 sapier1        it's somewhat strange it only seems to behave that bad if many entitys are active ... I'll have to do more investigations probably problem is somewhere else
01:19 OldCoder
01:19 OldCoder       sapier1, I need to remove fire dependency from mobf
01:19 OldCoder       As I do not have fire in my worlds
01:19 OldCoder       Is this possible?
01:19 sapier1        you'll have to remove animal_dm
01:20 kizeren        OldCoder: What mod do you use on yours servers for setting "home" ?
01:20 sapier1        and animal_creeper
01:20 OldCoder       kizeren, hang on
01:20 OldCoder       sapier1, will that break much?
01:20 sapier1        you won't have boombomb and dm's in there but everything else will work
01:20 OldCoder       mobf/fighting.lua talks about flame
01:21 OldCoder       Do I need to patch that?
01:21 sapier1        I'll have a look but I don't think so
01:23 sapier1        there's a reference but as long as boobomb ain't in there this ain't used at all
01:23 OldCoder       sapier1, so deleting those two mods and editing depends.txt might be enough?
01:23 sapier1        at least as long as no other mobs using self destruct feature are added but by now I don't know of any
01:23 sapier1        yes
01:23 OldCoder       ty
01:25 sapier1        which version are you gonna try?
01:26 OldCoder       1.4.6
01:26 OldCoder       with a blacklist by iqualfragile
01:26 OldCoder       and your core collision.cpp patch
01:26 OldCoder       plus fire changes
01:26 sapier1        ok just wanted to know what we're talking about :-)
01:26 OldCoder       Sure
01:29 OldCoder       ...team_game/mods/animals/mobf/management_functions.lua:467:
01:29 OldCoder       bad argument #1 to 'insert' (table expected, got nil)
01:29 OldCoder       01:28:56: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
01:29 OldCoder       01:28:56: ERROR[main]:  [C]: in function 'insert'
01:29 OldCoder       01:28:56: ERROR[main]:  ...team_game/mods/animals/mobf/
01:29 OldCoder       management_functions.lua:467: in function 'mobf_add_mob'
01:29 OldCoder       sapier1, If you can't comment, I understand
01:30 sapier1        I'll have a look at old code
01:32 mauvebic       money supply manager (wip) http://www.zimg.eu/i/4291845872
01:32 sapier1        You most likely have a misspelled blacklist string
01:33 sapier1        there's missing an error check for this case
01:36 OldCoder       sapier1, I got that from iqualfragile
01:36 OldCoder       iqualfragile, are you able to comment?
01:36 OldCoder       http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?3454e2a15a8b5125#N7ZkLKMRw4yWvMh76tvB51s6a0efvgNxThTn4byIhSo=
01:36 moltenbot      OldCoder's link: ZeroBin
01:36 OldCoder       sapier1, ^
01:37 OldCoder       Hmm
01:37 OldCoder       animal_vombie
01:37 OldCoder       Is that it?
01:38 OldCoder       iqualfragile, sapier1 can either of you comment on animal_vombie above?
01:38 sapier1        seems to be fine :-/
01:38 OldCoder       Hmm
01:38 OldCoder       So no explanation for the error
01:39 OldCoder       Thank you regardless
01:39 sapier1        add this to init.lua:
01:39 sapier1        if mobf_registred_mob == nil then
01:39 sapier1        mobf_registred_mob = {}
01:39 sapier1        end
01:39 sapier1        right after
01:39 sapier1        mobf_registred_mob = minetest.deserialize(mobf_mob_blacklist_string)
01:39 OldCoder       Hmm
01:39 OldCoder       O.K.
01:40 sapier1        if your blacklist string is wrong this will catch it
01:40 OldCoder       Wait
01:48 Kacey          back
01:48 Kacey          is Taoki on?
01:50 OldCoder       sapier1, same error
01:50 OldCoder       sapier1, Thanks for your assistance
01:50 OldCoder       01:50:12: ERROR[main]: /opt/minetest044/share/minetest/games/octuteam_game/mods/animals/animal_cow/init.lua:
01:50 OldCoder       01:50:12: ERROR[main]: ...team_game/mods/animals/mobf/management_functions.lua:467: bad argument #1 to 'insert' (table expected, got nil)
01:50 OldCoder       01:50:12: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
01:50 OldCoder       01:50:12: ERROR[main]:  [C]: in function 'insert'
01:50 OldCoder       01:50:12: ERROR[main]:  ...team_game/mods/animals/mobf/management_functions.lua:467: in function 'mobf_add_mob'
01:50 RealBadAngel   hi all
01:50 OldCoder       RealBadAngel, Hi
01:51 RealBadAngel   whats up?
01:51 sapier1        remove line 467 ;-)
01:51 OldCoder       sapier1, k
01:52 Kacey          how do i make a model?
01:52 OldCoder       dofile (mobf_modpath .. "/compatibility.lua")
01:52 sapier1        no wait I see it won't help
01:52 OldCoder       sapier1, do you mean that line?
01:52 OldCoder       k
01:55 sapier1        I don't quite see whats wrong there ... can you plz add
01:55 sapier1        print("ADDING: " .. dump(mobf_registred_mob) .. " mob: " .. dump(mob.modname) .. ":".. dump(mob.name)
01:55 sapier1        prior to line 467 in management_functions.lua
01:55 sapier1        print("ADDING: " .. dump(mobf_registred_mob) .. " mob: " .. dump(mob.modname) .. ":".. dump(mob.name))
01:55 OldCoder       Sure
01:57 OldCoder       sapier1, Sorry... add one print or two?
01:57 OldCoder       table.insert(mobf_registred_mob,mob.modname.. ":"..mob.name)
01:57 OldCoder       and do you mean, before that line?
01:57 sapier1        one print i missed a ) in first line
01:57 OldCoder       and do you mean, before that line?
01:57 sapier1        yes before that line
01:57 OldCoder       table.insert(mobf_registred_mob,mob.modname.. ":"..mob.name)
01:58 OldCoder       k
02:00 Kacey          how do i make a new animation for the players?
02:01 OldCoder       http://oldcoder.org/test.txt
02:01 OldCoder       sapier1, ^
02:02 sapier1        ok it's definitly your blacklist ... i dont understand why the fix doesn't catch it
02:02 sapier1        error:...opt/minetest044/share/minetest/builtin/serialize.lua:168: attempt to call method 'byte' (a nil value)
02:02 sapier1        Initializing probabilistic movement generator
02:02 OldCoder       I will post the patched init.lua
02:02 OldCoder       one moment
02:02 Kacey          HELLO?
02:03 sapier1        yea but you want to blacklist those mobs fixing the blacklist would fix the problem too
02:03 kaeza          hey Kacey
02:03 OldCoder       Hold on
02:03 sapier1        ok
02:03 Kacey          does anyone know how to make a new animation for the player
02:03 kaeza          Kacey you have to learn to use blender
02:04 kaeza          or any other 3d modelling program
02:04 Kacey          i have blender installed
02:04 sapier1        having a application like blender installt ain't a big deal compared to be able to use it ;-)
02:05 Kacey          well i can learn on the fly like i always do
02:05 sapier1        blender is another level ;-)
02:05 OldCoder       sapier hang on
02:05 OldCoder       something odd
02:05 sapier1        its far to complex to learn it without guidance
02:06 Kacey          ok got texture open now to make it 3d...
02:07 Kacey          without having to shoot myself
02:08 sapier1        have a look at youtube blender tutorials I've started learning blender about a week ago ;-)
02:08 OldCoder       sapier1, O.K. I think I had two instances running. No error now. Now how do I find iqualfragile typo?
02:08 OldCoder       iqualfragile, no offense
02:08 OldCoder       http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?3454e2a15a8b5125#N7ZkLKMRw4yWvMh76tvB51s6a0efvgNxThTn4byIhSo=
02:08 moltenbot      OldCoder's link: ZeroBin
02:08 OldCoder       That is what I am using
02:09 sapier1        there's somethin weird going an as this looks perfectly reasonable ... perhaps some non printed chars in there?
02:09 OldCoder       Hmm
02:09 OldCoder       Reviewing
02:09 sapier1        newline for example
02:10 OldCoder       No
02:10 OldCoder       See init.lua
02:10 OldCoder       Hold on
02:10 OldCoder       http://oldcoder.org/init.txt
02:10 OldCoder       Line 111 of that
02:11 sapier1        looks fine ... try adding a
02:11 sapier1        print("GOT_BL: " .. mobf_mob_blacklist_string)
02:11 sapier1        prior the deserialize line
02:12 sapier1        so we see what minetest sees as string to deserialize
02:13 OldCoder       k
02:13 VanessaE       zzz
02:15 jojoa1997      zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wait what the answer is 4 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
02:15 sapier1        no its 21
02:15 OldCoder       http://oldcoder.org/animalog.txt
02:15 OldCoder       sapier1, ^
02:16 sapier1        string is already a table value???
02:16 jojoa1997      4
02:16 sapier1        uhhh :-)
02:16 sapier1        sorry
02:17 OldCoder       ?
02:17 sapier1        if you add this line in init.lua you should add it following way:
02:17 sapier1        mobf_registred_mob = { your blacklist }
02:17 OldCoder       k
02:17 Kacey          made a cube
02:18 OldCoder       local mobf_mob_blacklist_string =
02:18 sapier1        and remove the deserialize line ... BUT you should add the string you got to minetest.conf
02:18 OldCoder       becomes
02:18 OldCoder       sapier1, I don't wish a 500 char line in the conf
02:18 OldCoder       That is why I patched the init
02:18 OldCoder       local mobf_mob_blacklist_string =
02:18 OldCoder       that is the old line
02:18 OldCoder       how should it read?
02:18 sapier1        that'd be what it was meant to
02:18 PilzAdam       going to sleep now; bye
02:18 OldCoder       c u
02:19 OldCoder       sapier1, t y but explain
02:19 OldCoder       local mobf_mob_blacklist_string =
02:19 OldCoder       how should it read?
02:19 sapier1        revert everything you did in init.lua
02:19 OldCoder       and?
02:19 sapier1        open your minetest.conf file
02:19 OldCoder       Not the spelling test I assume
02:19 OldCoder       No
02:19 OldCoder       Thanks
02:19 OldCoder       I rejected that earlier
02:19 OldCoder       I don't wish a 500 char line in the conf file
02:19 OldCoder       I usually patch this sort of thing in the mod
02:19 OldCoder       Is there no simple patch
02:19 OldCoder       to the mod?
02:20 sapier1        ok then the hard way :-) dont use mobf_blacklist_string but mobf_registred_mob
02:20 OldCoder       with local keyword?
02:20 sapier1        if you set this string NO mob will be enabled
02:20 OldCoder       What is the format of the line?
02:20 sapier1        you need to remove any of the mobs you want to have enabled
02:21 OldCoder       iqualfragile says to disable them
02:21 OldCoder       local mobf_mob_blacklist_string = {
02:21 OldCoder       What should this be?
02:21 VanessaE       ARGH PilzAdam pisses me off sometimes.
02:21 sapier1        mobf_registred_mob = { "animal_gull:gull", <...> "animal_vombie:vombie" }
02:21 OldCoder       Wait
02:21 sapier1        no "local" in front of it
02:22 OldCoder       sapier1, is it not a blacklist then?
02:22 sapier1        and AFTER minetest.deserialize(mobf_mob_blacklist_string)
02:22 OldCoder       Would either you or iqualfragile be able to paste a patch ?
02:22 sapier1        ok if you add this to mobf you will disable all mobs
02:23 OldCoder       sapier1, If I start over...
02:23 OldCoder       what *exactly* should I do?
02:23 OldCoder       Could you by any chance
02:23 OldCoder       just paste the file?
02:23 sapier1        I' not quite sure if i understood what you want to do
02:23 OldCoder       I don't want the server to be slow or crash
02:23 OldCoder       :-)
02:23 OldCoder       iqualfragile says to turn off the mobs
02:24 OldCoder       That is what I am attempting to do
02:24 sapier1        iqualfragile suggested you disable all mobs and enable them one by one to find out which ones are ok for your server and which ones are to costly
02:24 OldCoder       He made a list of animals
02:24 OldCoder       This is taking a bit more time than I have
02:24 OldCoder       Are there animals
02:24 OldCoder       which are not mobs
02:24 sapier1        no
02:24 OldCoder       and is there a way to run just them?
02:24 OldCoder       Hmm
02:24 sapier1        yes
02:24 OldCoder       no? yes?
02:24 OldCoder       :D
02:24 sapier1        no there are no animals which are no mobs
02:25 sapier1        and yes you can just run them
02:25 OldCoder       That does not compute
02:25 OldCoder       :-)
02:25 * OldCoder     sighs
02:25 sapier1        it does any animal is a mob
02:25 OldCoder       Is there a good set
02:25 OldCoder       of animals
02:25 sapier1        but you can disable each mob separatly
02:25 OldCoder       that will not hose my server?
02:25 sapier1        so if you disable all mobs not being animals you have only animals
02:26 OldCoder       sapier1, Is there any chance you could post a file that does this?
02:26 sapier1        most likely gull deer cow sheep and rat will be fine ... fish_blue_white and clownfish may be too
02:26 OldCoder       All right
02:26 OldCoder       I would be pleased to try this
02:26 OldCoder       sapier1, Is there any chance you could post a file that does this?
02:27 OldCoder       20 worlds
02:27 OldCoder       wait for the gentle herds
02:27 OldCoder       You offer
02:27 OldCoder       If there is
02:27 OldCoder       a file for me to install
02:27 OldCoder       Cause I am about out of time
02:27 sapier1        after the if mobf_mob_blacklist_string add following line
02:27 OldCoder       Wait
02:27 OldCoder       I assume I should start over
02:28 OldCoder       Is this the case?
02:28 OldCoder       sapier1, Is there any chance you could post a file that does this?
02:28 OldCoder       There is a high risk of error at this point otherwise
02:28 OldCoder       Or
02:29 OldCoder       Should I start over?
02:29 sapier1        mobf_registred_mob = { "animal_creeper:creeper", "animal_dm:dm",  "animal_big_red:big_red", "mob_slime:slime_L", "mob_slime:slime_M", "mob_slime:slime_S", "mob_npc:npc", "animal_vombie:vombie" }
02:29 OldCoder       But what of the blacklist string?
02:29 OldCoder       sapier1, I am out of time. Is there a chance you could post the correct file?
02:29 sapier1        you don't wanna set it in config file so you don't need to use it
02:29 OldCoder       sapier1, I am out of time. Is there a chance you could post the correct file?
02:30 sapier1        the file IS correct
02:30 OldCoder       75 minutes now
02:30 sapier1        you wanna disable mobs a hacky way it's not meant to be done
02:30 OldCoder       Not any longer correct... I have been editing it
02:30 OldCoder       And I am not clear on where you wish me to start
02:31 sapier1        ok ok sorry
02:31 OldCoder       sapier1, I thank you for your time... I can try animals in the future
02:31 sapier1        you seem to se 1.4.5 am I correct?
02:31 OldCoder       1.4.6
02:31 OldCoder       is what he gave me
02:31 sapier1        ok wrong version number in there my fault
02:32 sapier1        you may add:
02:32 sapier1        mobf_registred_mob = { "animal_creeper:creeper", "animal_dm:dm",  "animal_big_red:big_red", "mob_slime:slime_L", "mob_slime:slime_M", "mob_slime:slime_S", "mob_npc:npc", "animal_vombie:vombie" }
02:32 sapier1        no matter what you changed after the if block
02:33 OldCoder       sapier1, I am actually pretty tired and must move on. Pushing 90 minutes now.
02:33 OldCoder       If you are able to provide the mod I will run it proudly
02:33 OldCoder       in 20 worlds
02:33 OldCoder       I do not usually spend 90 minutes per mod on this
02:34 OldCoder       kaeza IRC mod is an exception
02:34 kaeza          hm?
02:34 OldCoder       kaeza, nothing... I am integrating your mod
02:34 OldCoder       into my server framework
02:34 sapier1        I'm sorry but I've already added an easy configurable way to select mobs ... I don't understand why you refuse to use it
02:34 OldCoder       worlds will install it and set up IRC automatically
02:34 kaeza          k
02:34 OldCoder       sapier1, I do not wish 500 character lines in the conf file
02:35 OldCoder       I usually tailor that kind of thing with mod patches
02:35 OldCoder       which are part of my framework
02:35 sapier1        but I can't tailor a mod for everyone wanting to use it?
02:35 OldCoder       No
02:35 OldCoder       Perhaps you can for a 20 world set
02:35 OldCoder       It is up to you
02:35 OldCoder       Considering that it appears to be a one line change
02:36 OldCoder       This is not entirely unreasonable
02:36 OldCoder
02:36 OldCoder       You have repeated one line several times
02:36 OldCoder       But I do not have the context
02:36 OldCoder       Of where to start
02:36 OldCoder       If I attempt this
02:36 OldCoder       There will be errors
02:36 sapier1        ok I'll prepare it for you
02:36 OldCoder       It is your decision
02:36 OldCoder
02:47 sapier1        @oldcoder http://www.mediafire.com/?f1gnw3wynlcjkcc --> 1.4.7 oldcoder special edition
02:47 moltenbot      sapier1's link: animals_modpack-1.4.7.zip
02:49 OldCoder       sapier1, reviewing
02:54 jojoa1997      is obiewan111 here
03:00 OldCoder       sapier1, trying it. Thanks and we'll test.
03:01 sapier1        habe fun ... I'm hoping to get 1.9 stable soon it'll support mesh based animated mobs
03:02 Kacey          we need a village/villager mod
03:02 sapier1        isn't here a village mod?
03:04 Kacey          but one that adds NPCs and chests with things in them
03:04 sapier1        npc doing what?
03:04 Kacey          just living
03:05 sapier1        "living" is a big word ;-) eating drinking having fun ?  ;-)
03:05 Kacey          walking aroundin a set area
03:05 OldCoder       simtest
03:05 Kacey          interacting with objeccts around it
03:05 OldCoder       You want SimTest :-)
03:05 OldCoder       sapier1, He imagines Simcity in MT
03:05 Kacey          no i want a village mod
03:05 OldCoder       Yep
03:05 OldCoder       VillageTest
03:06 Kacey          no just a few houses that randomly spawn and you can live in or loot
03:06 sapier1        :-) you may implement those nps's in mobf ... by now interaction will be somehow limited to not to often run against walls
03:07 sapier1        or chasing and hitting noisy players
03:07 iqualfragile   sapier1: so cows have proper 3-D-models now?
03:08 sapier1        animal_dm mod spawns dungeons with mobs in there ... replacing dungeon by house and dm by villager and you'll have your village mod
03:08 sapier1        yes 1.9.5 has a cow walking(animated)
03:08 iqualfragile   cool, gona try that
03:09 iqualfragile   (should i run it in gdb?)
03:09 iqualfragile   where do cows spawn?
03:09 sapier1        lol ... won't help lua can't be debugged with gdb ... I'd be glad itd work
03:09 sapier1        cows spawn on grass
03:10 iqualfragile   ühm… it wont start, pm
03:10 Kacey          sapier1 did you make the animation?
03:10 sapier1        yes ... don't blame me i started using blender 1 week ago
03:10 Kacey          i started 1 hour ago
03:11 Kacey          and those blender tutorials wont help i looked at one
03:13 iqualfragile   Kacey: looking at one wont help
03:13 iqualfragile   look at the noob to pro guide on wikibooks
03:13 iqualfragile   and you need to do some work on your own
03:13 iqualfragile   play around and try out
03:17 Dogzilla131    is there a mod that add beverages that are in a club, beer stand, and other places where they use that kind of beverages?
03:18 Dogzilla131    if there it is, i just i have new job, manager of a big club :)
03:20 sapier1        and look in wiki I've posted some small pieces of information what to consider when creating .x files to work in minetest
03:26 Kacey          link?
03:28 kaeza          I wonder if someone would convert Half-Life models to be used in MT...
03:28 kaeza          :P
03:28 kaeza          I'd like to see Headcrabs instead of rats :)
03:30 Exio           hahaha
03:31 kaeza          I have the Valve SDK, but I doubt the models' license is compatible with that of MT
03:32 OldCoder       Hi
03:32 OldCoder       I'd like to name my default world
03:32 OldCoder       Which is presently called default
03:32 Exio           'MyDefaultWorld' should world
03:32 Exio           >:D
03:32 OldCoder       Would anybody like to name a world?
03:32 Exio           work *
03:32 OldCoder       Better than that
03:33 Exio           i'm not good with names :P
03:33 OldCoder       This is your chance to name a world
03:33 OldCoder       Anybody?
03:33 babyface1031   ummm.....
03:33 RealBadAngel   Haven
03:33 OldCoder       Taken
03:33 babyface1031   oooo i like that one RealBadAngel
03:33 babyface1031   oh
03:33 OldCoder       Haven is another game
03:33 OldCoder       Hmm
03:33 Exio           Nexus ground
03:33 OldCoder       NakedFury spends a lot of time there
03:33 RealBadAngel   Hyperion
03:33 OldCoder       Nexus Ground
03:34 OldCoder       Hyperion is the name of that book series
03:34 OldCoder       He'd fuss
03:34 RealBadAngel   yes
03:34 RealBadAngel   thats why
03:34 OldCoder       Naked Fury perhaps
03:34 * OldCoder     shrugs
03:34 OldCoder       Bad Angel
03:34 OldCoder       I shall honor one of our contributors
03:34 OldCoder       BadAngel or NakedFury
03:34 OldCoder       Hmm
03:34 RealBadAngel   toss a coin ;)
03:34 babyface1031   bad angel
03:34 Exio           BadFury or NakedAngel
03:34 OldCoder       FuryAngel
03:34 RealBadAngel   lol
03:35 OldCoder       Yeh, we'll skip that last one
03:35 * VanessaE     puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head.
03:35 * NekoGloop    purrs
03:35 * Kacey        steals the kitten
03:36 * iqualfragile puts a hand-granade on the kitten on NekoGloop's head
03:36 OldCoder       AngelFury it is for now
03:36 Kacey          O.O
03:36 NekoGloop      So kacey has a kitten with a hand grenade.
03:36 NekoGloop      Seems legit.
03:36 * Kacey        eats the grenade
03:36 Kacey          mmmmmmmmmmmm yummy
03:36 NekoGloop      *burp*
03:37 NekoGloop      lolwat
03:37 ecube          lol
03:37 RealBadAngel   anybody with an empty bucket to clean the leftovers after grenade eating>
03:37 RealBadAngel   ?
03:37 Kacey          i feel like making a map anyone in?
03:37 Exio           RealBadAngel: lava bucket here
03:37 sdzen          woah! its the gloop!
03:38 RealBadAngel   Exio, even better
03:38 NekoGloop      woah! its the drama!
03:39 sdzen          hmmmm?
03:39 sdzen          i dont cause much do I?
03:39 NekoGloop      lol nothing.
03:39 NekoGloop      the way you said it made it seem dramatic.
03:40 * Kacey        loves drama
03:41 * mauvebic     removes trousers
03:41 * NekoGloop    slowly inches away
03:42 Kacey          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg64Qofzoyo you will die...
03:42 moltenbot      Kacey's link: Let's Play Minecraft Episode 27 - YouTube
03:43 Kacey          we need some of these
03:44 davidpace      Hello Guys!
03:44 Kacey          hallo
03:44 OldCoder       NEWS coming below
03:44 davidpace      :-) Hello OldCoder
03:45 NekoGloop      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnWDB1vfFhA
03:45 Kacey          we need some videos on minetest
03:45 davidpace      Working on it :D
03:45 OldCoder       NEWS Half of my worlds are connected to IRC now. The rest will follow. Animals in Octuworld; come see the zoo. VanessaE world updated; it is cool. davidpace hello. conifers everywhere. MarkV has his new world wish; I will display his world as a test but not interact it yet. New player 3D avatars; come and get 'em. More stuff coming soon including Giant Trees.
03:46 NekoGloop      Well y'all drove jordan off so that's yer own fault.
03:46 ecube          nice :o
03:46 iqualfragile   OldCoder: wich channel are they connected to?
03:46 davidpace      :-)
03:46 OldCoder       iqualfragile, list in a minute
03:46 davidpace      Kacey, check this out: http://www.youtube.com/user/MinetestCommunity?feature=mhee
03:46 moltenbot      davidpace's link: MinetestCommunity - YouTube
03:47 Kacey          i need to install the animals mod...
03:47 davidpace      I'm working on editing a video now
03:47 davidpace      To upload it
03:47 iqualfragile   Kacey: no, you do not
03:47 davidpace      I only give out the password to that channel to whom I trust
03:47 iqualfragile   but if you so: make it quick so i can assist you
03:48 OldCoder       For now MT connects to the Real World of IRC through: ##mtangelfury, ##mtmarktwain, ##mtmauvebic, ##mtmetropolis, ##mtoctuteam, ##mtopenmine, ##mtveritas, ##mtzegaton
03:48 OldCoder       More channels coming
03:48 davidpace      Nice Job OldCoder!
03:48 OldCoder       Sure
03:48 iqualfragile   davidpace: whats the song you use called and: do you have the right to use it?
03:48 davidpace      Yes I do
03:48 OldCoder       In the future we may merge the channels but kaeza mod will need to be modified to sort things out
03:49 kaeza          OldCoder: may I test?
03:49 davidpace      Techno Delux by Musicshake, its one of the songs youtube offers
03:50 babyface1031   join ##mtoctuteam
03:50 Kacey          wow for is not spelled fo
03:50 Kacey          lol
03:52 Kacey          but we need an "Average Day in Minetest" video
03:53 davidpace      I'll work on it soon enough
03:53 Kacey          can i be in it?
03:53 sdzen          okay then if someone can record offtopic events in the IRC and put them in a video that would sum up a average day in minetest
03:53 davidpace      Umm maybe. Depends on timing
03:53 sdzen          :P
03:55 Kacey          lol the random things i build
03:56 OldCoder       kaeza, By all means
03:56 OldCoder       kaeza, It worked
03:56 OldCoder       kaeza, the bot output came back in PM
03:56 sdzen          watch me fly up and down with a water bucket
03:56 * OldCoder     is on a short break
03:56 kaeza          OldCoder: good
03:56 sdzen          pretty much sums up most of my gameplay
03:56 jeffrash       OldCoder, did you load the animals?
03:57 jeffrash       I'll check tomorrow.  Bed time.  Good night.
03:57 Kacey          watch me build something big and fall off of it
03:57 Kacey          my gameplay
03:58 NekoGloop      Watch me make a hugeass hole in the ground.
03:58 NekoGloop      my gameplay.
03:59 Kacey          lol put them all together
03:59 Kacey          a big house in a huge hole while sdzen runs up and down with a bucket
04:05 kaeza          back
04:05 Exio           wb :P
04:05 kaeza          thx
04:05 kaeza          lights out :(
04:08 OldCoder       Hi
04:08 OldCoder       Back
04:08 OldCoder       jeffrash, I did
04:08 OldCoder       Baby Face found a bird
04:08 OldCoder       Animals will migrate to other servers if there are no crashes
04:09 davidpace      Animals?
04:09 davidpace      3D?
04:10 davidpace      What kind?
04:13 iqualfragile   watch me build a skycastle
04:13 iqualfragile   my gameplay
04:16 sdzen          time to watch a person play with blocks
04:16 davidpace      lol
04:16 sdzen          wait i think i can upgrade this to realtime
04:17 sdzen          let me get my 3 year old brother
04:17 sdzen          and some wooden blocks
04:17 davidpace      Haha
04:18 Kacey          we need item_hold to work...
04:21 sdzen          we need lots of things
04:21 sdzen          :P
04:21 sdzen          I am too tired to remember the list of things people want out of minetest
04:21 VanessaE       EVERYTHING!
04:21 VanessaE       :-)
04:22 Kacey          lol
04:22 sdzen          but i do know its very long biased and contradictory
04:22 Kacey          lol
04:22 VanessaE       CODE ALL THE THINGS!!
04:22 iqualfragile   soo, gute nacht leute
04:22 VanessaE       *looks worried*
04:22 VanessaE       code ALL the things?
04:22 sdzen          we need to be able to play minetest within minetest within minetest
04:22 Kacey          good night ___________
04:22 sdzen          night dude
04:22 Kacey          sdzen:yes
04:23 sdzen          then that last minetest must play halo 4
04:23 RealBadAngel   sdzen, you watched Inception too many times propably ;)
04:23 sdzen          hmmm?
04:23 sdzen          never
04:23 sdzen          I really wanna see it
04:23 RealBadAngel   so you should
04:23 sdzen          whats it about?
04:23 RealBadAngel   its about dream in a dream in a dream :)
04:24 RealBadAngel   cool movie
04:24 mauvebic       ive had those
04:24 kaeza          *SPOILER ALERT*
04:24 mauvebic       kept dreaming i was waking up lol
04:24 kaeza          too late
04:24 mauvebic       god forbid the day i go into work naked thinking its a dream
04:25 Kacey          lol
04:26 mauvebic       the worse bit is dreaming about work lol
04:26 davidpace      Wait for it...
04:26 davidpace      Wait for it!
04:27 RealBadAngel   sdzen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hP9D6kZseM
04:27 moltenbot      RealBadAngel's link: Inception - Official Trailer [HD] - YouTube
04:27 davidpace      WAIT FOR IT! DON'T MOVE!
04:28 * VanessaE     moves slightly.
04:28 davidpace      Inception was amazing
04:28 davidpace      VanessaE you ruined the moment
04:28 VanessaE       just playing :-)
04:28 davidpace      It's gone now
04:28 davidpace      Lol
04:28 * NekoGloop    tosses this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnWDB1vfFhA
04:29 VanessaE       I'm still waiting for whatever it is I'm supposed to wait for :-)
04:29 davidpace      Well, you ruined it :P
04:29 davidpace      Here it is!!!
04:29 davidpace      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aQk-kXwSo0
04:29 moltenbot      davidpace's link: How do Download, And install a Texture Pack in Minetest! - YouTube
04:30 sdzen          bad moltenbot you ignored neko!
04:30 davidpace      Haha
04:30 NekoGloop      It always does.
04:30 kaeza          hey NekoGloop :3
04:30 davidpace      Lol
04:30 NekoGloop      Probably by popular demand.
04:30 davidpace      It doesn't like you NekoGloop D:
04:31 NekoGloop      Well that i knew.
04:31 VanessaE       iqual made moltenbot not like me, too :-)
04:31 sdzen          too much japanese for it to handle I assume
04:31 davidpace      ...
04:31 davidpace      Lol
04:31 sdzen          I think it likes me
04:31 sdzen          let me try
04:31 davidpace      And me
04:31 sdzen          http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cave-johnson-combustible-lemons
04:31 moltenbot      sdzen's link: Cave Johnson / Combustible Lemons | Know Your Meme
04:32 sdzen          cool
04:32 * davidpace    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aQk-kXwSo0
04:32 moltenbot      davidpace's link: How do Download, And install a Texture Pack in Minetest! - YouTube
04:32 VanessaE       david:  -1000 for google chrome, +10000000000 for HDX :-)
04:32 davidpace      Yep, its not because he did /me
04:32 davidpace      Whats wrong with chrome?
04:32 VanessaE       nothing, I was kidding :-)
04:32 NekoGloop      Chrome Is The Enemy Of Linux Users.
04:32 davidpace      Lol
04:33 NekoGloop      So did like nobody click that.
04:33 davidpace      Sometimes I use ubuntu, I use windows7 most of the time because everything is saved on it
04:33 davidpace      I did
04:33 VanessaE       that title screen beats the shit out of the old one :D
04:34 davidpace      Yea it does!
04:34 NekoGloop      Oh right, the german denizens of #minetest have me ignored, that's right.
04:34 VanessaE       no, they're still asleep :-)
04:35 NekoGloop      If anyone should be asleep it's me and you.
04:35 VanessaE       a 11:35pm?  naw
04:35 VanessaE       too early yet.
04:35 RealBadAngel   btw, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqVD0swvWU
04:35 moltenbot      RealBadAngel's link: How Lord of The Rings Should Have Ended - YouTube
04:35 davidpace      Lol
04:35 Exio           chrome is shit because it needs 1337 GB of ram for 30 tabs
04:36 NekoGloop      RealBadAngel: I found a polish version of Bad Apple :D
04:36 Exio           i had 200~ tabs here ( netbook ) without any big lag
04:36 davidpace      Uhhh thats why you don't have 30 tabs open
04:36 Exio           >:D beat it
04:36 NekoGloop      Exio: source, now.
04:36 sdzen          I found kirby on LSD
04:36 sdzen          beat that neko
04:36 NekoGloop      I, on average, have like 100 tabs open.
04:36 davidpace      Why?O.o
04:36 sdzen          I have on average 2 tabs
04:36 Exio           what browser?
04:36 NekoGloop      sdzen: Considering i have no idea what you just said...
04:36 NekoGloop      Exio: Chrome.
04:37 sdzen          and 40 windows
04:37 Exio           NekoGloop: how many ram do you have?
04:37 NekoGloop      davidpace: I hate adf.ly
04:37 davidpace      Whatever, chrome is faster then IE, so I use it
04:37 mauvebic       i have several rams
04:37 NekoGloop      Exio: Idk, but not 1337 gigs :3
04:37 davidpace      adf.ly?
04:37 sdzen          midori works best
04:37 Exio           everything is faster than IE
04:37 VanessaE       "how MANY ram?"
04:37 VanessaE       D:
04:38 sdzen          he isnt running on any
04:38 sdzen          he is made of ram
04:38 sdzen          he just plugs himself in
04:38 Exio           lol
04:38 mauvebic       must be a dimm lol
04:38 Exio           btw, i need to sleep
04:38 Exio           bye everybody and NekoGloop :3
04:38 davidpace      I am going to sleep too, soon
04:38 * NekoGloop    kicks exio
04:38 * Exio         hugs NekoGloop
04:39 sdzen          goodbye people I dont know!
04:39 RealBadAngel   Random Access Mauvebic?
04:39 RealBadAngel   ;)
04:39 sdzen          dont forget to not write!
04:39 davidpace      O_Oo_Oo_o-_--.-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
04:39 Exio           lol
04:39 VanessaE       RealBadAngel: no, just Random Mauvebic ;-)
04:39 mauvebic       or Random-Ass-Mauvebic lol
04:39 davidpace      I have a tremendous headache!
04:40 RealBadAngel   take a hammer, hit yourself in the finger
04:40 davidpace      I'm also going to sleep in 5 mins
04:40 RealBadAngel   you will forget bout headache
04:40 mauvebic       i hear inhaling butane fixes headaches
04:40 davidpace      RealBadAngel: Very Funny
04:40 NekoGloop      Then you will have a tremendous fingerache
04:40 davidpace      You guys are all hillarious
04:41 sdzen          simple solution for everything
04:41 VanessaE       mauvebic: that's one hell of a way to solve a headache.... if you didn't keel over first :-)
04:41 sdzen          suck a lemon
04:41 davidpace      Actually, I think sleep will help this headache
04:41 davidpace      :p
04:41 mauvebic       funny story, people 'round here tried to get high that way (though i walk through the valley of the shadows...)
04:41 davidpace      I shall fear no evil
04:42 davidpace      :P
04:42 RealBadAngel   yeah, yeah, dont forget the hammer
04:42 davidpace      I won't
04:43 RealBadAngel   hammerpirine is good for all
04:43 davidpace      I bet!
04:44 davidpace      I'm sure ramming my *Pinky* toe into a dresser will help also
04:44 davidpace      Right?
04:45 Guest70221     NOoooo
04:45 DoctorDave     Heheh
04:45 OldCoder       Back and Animals work
04:45 DoctorDave     What animals?
04:45 OldCoder       We got fish and birds now
04:45 DoctorDave     Are they 3D?
04:46 OldCoder       DoctorDave, added animals to a world
04:46 OldCoder       I have not seen them
04:46 OldCoder       Some are
04:46 DoctorDave     Which world, port?
04:46 OldCoder       minetest.org 30004
04:46 OldCoder       Ask Baby Face to show you the fish
04:46 DoctorDave     May I have privs?
04:47 OldCoder       Thought you did. Go on in and tell me your nick
04:47 OldCoder       when you are there
04:47 davidpace      Oh alright
04:47 davidpace      Maybe I do
04:47 OldCoder       Does not matter
04:47 OldCoder       Go on in and tell me
04:47 OldCoder       I can see you from IRC now
04:47 davidpace      Loading Media..
04:47 OldCoder       That is to say... the world is in IRC
04:47 davidpace      It wont take long
04:47 OldCoder       davidpace, allow time to enter unless it is cached
04:48 davidpace      I know
04:48 davidpace      98%
05:02 sdzen          goodmorning everyone! see you all by noon!
05:11 NekoGloop      Meow.
05:11 VanessaE       meow.
05:12 * NekoGloop    gives VanessaE a kitten
05:12 * VanessaE     snuggles with the kitten for a few minutes and hands it off to OldCoder
05:12 NekoGloop      I like how oldcoder is in like this pile of kittens.
05:12 VanessaE       haha
05:13 * VanessaE     hands NekoGloop a Mese Crystal - your kitten generator's running low.
05:14 NekoGloop      My kitten generator runs on kalite, thank you.
05:14 VanessaE       oh
05:14 * VanessaE     hands NekoGloop a stack of Kalite lumps
05:14 NekoGloop      No, these are no good.
05:14 * Kacey        eats the kitten
05:14 NekoGloop      I need refined kalite bars.
05:14 * VanessaE     refines the kalite into ingots
05:14 VanessaE       :)
05:14 NekoGloop      It appears you lack the machinery for that task, ma'am.
05:15 NekoGloop      A normal mundane furnace is incapable of refining kalite.
05:15 VanessaE       I have an allow furnace, two grinders, and a Home Decor oven on hand too :-)
05:15 * Kacey        looks around at everyone and slowly backs away
05:15 * VanessaE     hands Kacey a kitten
05:15 NekoGloop      You need a particle compressor...
05:15 * Kacey        trips over the oven
05:15 VanessaE       alloy furnace even
05:16 Kacey          oooh hey thats where my mese went
05:16 NekoGloop      No, particle compressor.
05:16 Kacey          hey look what i found!!!!!
05:16 * Kacey        hands VanessaE a particle compressor
05:17 VanessaE       aha
05:17 VanessaE       haha
05:17 * Kacey        crafts a pick and digs a hole behind the oven
05:17 NekoGloop      e-ey!
05:18 NekoGloop      Gimme my freakin particle compressor back, little theif!
05:18 * Kacey        falls into a massive mapgen fail
05:18 VanessaE       lol
05:18 Kacey          AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:19 NekoGloop      Crap.
05:19 NekoGloop      I have to make another.
05:19 * Kacey        lags
05:19 * Kacey        ends up back in the house
05:19 Kacey          hmmmmmmm...
05:19 Kacey          lag
05:19 * VanessaE     restarts Kacey's server
05:19 NekoGloop      Kacey: so more like: AAA-AAAA-HHAAA-AAAA?
05:19 Kacey          no
05:19 NekoGloop      xD
05:20 Kacey          i lagged after the scream
05:20 * Kacey        rejoins the game
05:20 Kacey          ow lag
05:20 Kacey          DO IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:20 * VanessaE     places a teleporter under kacey and the matching one above him
05:20 * Kacey        jumps down the hole
05:21 NekoGloop      Since teleporters are nonsolid, he just teleports... And teleports... And lags.... And then teleports...
05:21 Kacey          never fart into a teleporter lol
05:22 * VanessaE     quickly replaces the teleporters with two Jeija trampolines :-)
05:24 NekoGloop      I want a cookie.
05:24 * VanessaE     hands NekoGloop a bag of Bugles.
05:24 NekoGloop      Let's recalibrate this kitten generator then to make cookies.
05:24 VanessaE       sorry, it's all I have handy.
05:24 * OldCoder     reviews the kittens. He is not quite sure how to proceed.
05:25 VanessaE       OldCoder: snuggle with them singularly or in multiples
05:25 NekoGloop      The ever analytical third Alice approaches...
05:26 * OldCoder     places an assembly of kittens into a laundry basket. Mew. mew. He adds a few kitten treats and a sign: Free Kittens.
05:26 OldCoder       The kittens watch with interest to see who will claim them.
05:28 ecube          That makes me sad...
05:28 NekoGloop      At least give them a proper basket.
05:29 * Kacey        steals the kittens and the basket but leaes half of the sign
05:29 Kacey          leaves*
05:29 ecube          nah, the thought of that kind of close-to-abuse stuff depreesses me.
05:30 * Kacey        runs into a cave
05:30 NekoGloop      Well the kittens are kalite given life basically.
05:30 ecube          especially when they don't even understand what's happening...
05:30 NekoGloop      =)
05:30 ecube          ...
05:30 * Kacey        makes sure nobody is in the cave
05:30 NekoGloop      see: the particle compressor thing.
05:30 * ecube        comes out and bashes Kacey around the neck and shoulders and steals the kittens back
05:31 * Kacey        lays on the ground
05:31 Kacey          ow
05:31 ecube          no, i don't bash you
05:31 ecube          i don't like bash that much
05:31 * Kacey        finds the mese shovel he dropped a year ago
05:31 VanessaE       what's wrong with bash?
05:31 Kacey          hmmmmmmm...
05:31 VanessaE       :)
05:31 NekoGloop      ecube: see: the particle compressor conversation
05:32 * Kacey        walks back to the house
05:32 NekoGloop      VanessaE: It's not supported on most OS's.
05:32 ecube          I never got the hang of it, vanessa, quite like you never got the hang of vi[m]?
05:32 VanessaE       fair enough.  Besides which vim sucks anyway. ;-)
05:32 * Kacey        begins beating everyone with the shovel
05:32 Kacey          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
05:32 VanessaE       actually, doesn't cygwin run bash?
05:33 ecube          vim doesn't suck
05:33 ecube          it lets me keep my hands in the middle of the keyboard
05:33 NekoGloop      do i look like i have the slightest idea what that is, vanessa?
05:33 VanessaE       NekoGloop: it's a command-line development and testing environment for Windows PC's
05:34 VanessaE       also BASH runs on OS X. :-)
05:34 VanessaE       so that covers all three major platforms :-
05:34 * ecube        is content to gawk at Kacey in the cave after stealing back the kittens
05:34 VanessaE       :-)
05:34 NekoGloop      Obviously because it's a linux ripoff.
05:34 * Kacey        has problems...
05:34 ecube          kill -9 Kacey && mv /home/Kacey/kittens /home/ecube/kittens
05:35 NekoGloop      I'm not qualified to help with those kinds of problems.
05:35 VanessaE       NekoGloop: actually I think it's intended more to replicate POSIX environments in general, e.g. BSD, other unixes, etc
05:35 OldCoder       ecube, it was a comfortable basket
05:35 NekoGloop      Let's all get drunk and sing songs.
05:35 OldCoder       with kitten toys
05:35 VanessaE       ecube:  mv: cannot remove `/home/Kacey/kittens': permission denied
05:35 OldCoder       Hmm
05:35 OldCoder       Songs
05:36 Kacey          drunk? ok im down
05:36 ecube          aww
05:36 ecube          i thought i killed kacey though
05:36 ecube          ...
05:36 Kacey          i dont die i just bug out for a sec
05:37 ecube          not when I shoot SIGKILL at you
05:37 VanessaE       ecube: he's D-stated.  even SIGKILL won't do then :-)
05:37 NekoGloop      Yeah, but remember the world runs in a proprietary format.
05:37 OldCoder       When the ship runs out of ocean
05:37 OldCoder       And the vessel runs aground
05:37 OldCoder       Land's where we know the boat is found
05:37 OldCoder       Now there's nothing unexpected
05:37 OldCoder       About the water giving out
05:37 OldCoder       "land's" not a word we have to shout.
05:37 OldCoder
05:37 OldCoder       But there's something beside the shoreline
05:37 NekoGloop      oh god, oldcoder started singing :3
05:37 ecube          WAAT
05:37 OldCoder       Moving across the beachhead
05:37 OldCoder       Coming up from the shipwreck
05:37 OldCoder       Making as if to say:
05:37 ecube          how can he be when he's in a damn cave
05:37 OldCoder
05:37 OldCoder       Women & men
05:37 OldCoder       Women & men
05:38 OldCoder       Women & men
05:38 OldCoder       Women & men
05:38 OldCoder       :-)
05:38 ecube          you can't be dstated when you're in a damn cave
05:38 NekoGloop      You missed the "drunk" part, methinks.
05:38 OldCoder       They do good songs for drinking
05:38 ecube          idk where to insert drunk...
05:38 Kacey          drink,drank,drunk
05:38 NekoGloop      I was talking to oldcoder...
05:38 VanessaE       ecube: he's spinlocked waiting for /dev/sun to return from the last call of set.night()
05:38 Kacey          that is an actual song
05:38 OldCoder       Once a boy named Mister Me bemoaned a great regret I've floundered in the misty sea, but can't abide its mystery I wound up sad, you bet
05:39 OldCoder       So onward go and Edward Ho into the boundin' main Enjoy the show look out below but mind the misty sea Or end up sad like Mister Me
05:39 OldCoder
05:39 * Kacey        runs around within the cave
05:39 NekoGloop      I didnt say "shanties", i said "songs"
05:39 OldCoder       Those are good songs
05:39 * VanessaE     listens to Asleep at the Wheel ("Ida Red" at present)
05:39 OldCoder       There's probably one about kittens
05:40 * Kacey        runs into a wall with a loud CRASH
05:40 ecube          sigsegv?
05:40 VanessaE       ecube: there, now while he's still sleeping
05:40 ecube          hm?
05:40 VanessaE       killall -KILL Kacey
05:40 VanessaE       :)
05:41 ecube          -9 is easier to type
05:41 * Kacey        hit the wall so hard he must run a DEBUG in order to reboot
05:41 VanessaE       lol
05:41 * Kacey        reboots
05:41 ecube          i thought he already caught SEGV
05:41 VanessaE       fsck.reiserfs /dev/Kacey
05:41 ecube          ._.
05:41 * Kacey        loses internet as he tries to rejoin
05:41 VanessaE       ecube: trapped by a signal handler. :)
05:42 * Kacey        finally rejoins
05:42 ecube          wb
05:42 Kacey          OW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:42 ecube          no
05:42 * Kacey        realizes he respawned within the wall
05:42 VanessaE       Kacey: you're glitching again.  corrupt files somewhere in your /usr/share/leftarm tree
05:42 OldCoder       So take the hand of Mister Me and mister Make him glad to swim the Mister Misty Sea and sees The Mister Mystery that mister made him sad
05:42 NekoGloop      ./run device.jammer.antiKacey~active
05:42 ecube          wait what
05:42 ecube          i'm not good at art
05:43 NekoGloop      I think someone here IS drunk.
05:43 OldCoder       Not me
05:43 OldCoder       No alcohol for months
05:43 NekoGloop      It's just the question of who xD
05:43 OldCoder       I am tired though
05:43 VanessaE       wish I were, at least I'd be in less pain and a better mood than I am now :-)
05:43 * Kacey        has to run DEBUG again
05:43 OldCoder       Oh
05:43 VanessaE       but no, that's for Monday night.
05:43 VanessaE       I'll get thoroughly crocked then :-
05:43 VanessaE       :-)
05:43 OldCoder       VanessaE, do you know anything about git cherry picks?
05:43 Kacey          aah thats better
05:44 VanessaE       OldCoder: not too much, no.  Last couple of times I wanted to do that I couldn't figure out how\
05:44 OldCoder       VanessaE, Let me PM a few commands for git
05:44 VanessaE       ok
05:44 Kacey          now if i could get that DM out of my cave...
05:45 VanessaE       if it's in the same repo as my existing codebase, it's easy...  git cherry-pick 2463543438438432 <-- commit ID
05:45 * Kacey        leaves to fight the DM
05:45 VanessaE       but pulling from someone else's repo?  I have no idea how.
05:58 thexyz         VanessaE: just add remote and fetch it
05:59 thexyz         then you can cherry-pick commits from it
05:59 OldCoder       thexyz, you are asleep
05:59 OldCoder       thexyz, It stopped working
05:59 OldCoder       Tried to merge tonight
06:00 VanessaE       thexyz:  yeah, OldCoder explained it already in msg.  Now I understand.
06:08 * VanessaE     pokes Jeija .. just because :D
06:08 Dogzilla131    i cant see the recipes for mob framework can somebody put somewhere else a can go
06:08 Jeija          Not again!
06:08 VanessaE       what?
06:09 Jeija          If there is a warning by chromium, just click advanced + continue
06:10 VanessaE       heh
06:10 Jeija          that's what these warnings are for, arent't they?
06:10 VanessaE       beats me :-)
06:13 * Kacey        returns half dead
06:13 Kacey          owie
06:14 * Kacey        is off to find apples
06:15 * ecube        gives Kacey a wormy apple
06:16 thexyz         you mean, bad apple?
06:17 Dogzilla131    still cant :(
06:19 kaeza          hi everyone
06:20 OldCoder       Hi
06:20 VanessaE       hey kaeza.
06:21 kaeza          whassup?
06:21 VanessaE       my level of fatigue at the moment :-O
06:21 VanessaE       I should sleep but I'm too lazy to go upstairs to the bedroom
06:21 kaeza          D
06:21 kaeza          :D*
06:21 ecube          Sleep at the keyboard!
06:21 VanessaE       (yes, like a good geek, I spend most of my time in the basement :-) )
06:21 ecube          like I sometimes accidentally do
06:22 kaeza          typo on a smiley, that's a new one :)
06:34 Dogzilla131    please can somebody take a picture and give it to me
06:34 VanessaE       a picture of what?
06:35 Dogzilla131    of the crafts of mob frame work
06:36 VanessaE       http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629
06:36 VanessaE       the crafts are right there at the top of the page
06:38 Dogzilla131    yes, but it doesnt let me see it, it look like text document with a slash of green in the middle
06:38 VanessaE       strange
06:38 VanessaE       http://animalsmod.comuf.com/reciepes/recieps.jpg
06:38 VanessaE       how about that by itself?
06:40 VanessaE       try downloading the image file and viewing it with paint.net or gimp or some other image program
06:40 VanessaE       if that didn't owrk I mean
06:40 VanessaE       work*
06:49 Dogzilla131    it says oops cant connect to it
06:49 VanessaE       Dogzilla131:  your internet is being filtered then
06:49 VanessaE       http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZxYg/recieps.jpg
06:49 VanessaE       try that link
06:50 Dogzilla131    yes, thanks
07:01 OldCoder       NEWS: Animals and Skins seem to be working well
07:02 OldCoder       VanessaE, there is a barn in 30004 somewhere
07:02 OldCoder       If you can find it before you sleep I'll blog a screenshot
07:02 OldCoder       VanessaE, BTW your world should be up to date
07:03 VanessaE       cool
07:03 VanessaE       I'll look later
07:03 VanessaE       for now, I need to go to bed
07:03 OldCoder       NIght
07:04 VanessaE       night all
07:04 OldCoder       o/
07:04 ecube          night
07:44 kaeza          good night! off to bed :)
08:00 OldCoder       Hi
08:00 OldCoder       Who is around?
08:01 thexyz         I am
08:02 OldCoder       thexyz, Ah
08:02 OldCoder       thexyz, PM ty
08:23 Calinou        http://minetest.net/forum/misc.php?section=pun_pm&pmpage=inbox
08:23 Calinou        amg
08:23 moltenbot      Calinou's link: Forum message - Minetest Forums
08:23 Calinou        private messages :D
08:25 thexyz         Calinou: yeah, I asked c55 to install some plugins
08:25 thexyz         now we have PMs and polls
08:25 thexyz         (and moderators are able to move posts from one topic to another)
08:28 sfan5          <thexyz> (and moderators are able to move posts from one topic to another)
08:28 sfan5          wasn't that already in before?
08:30 Calinou        nope
08:31 thexyz         sfan5: well, you could move some posts from one topic to new one, then move all posts from new one, to existing
08:31 thexyz         wasn't really handy
08:31 sfan5          ah, ok
08:31 Calinou        gentoo user says something is not handy
08:31 Calinou        seems legit
08:31 Calinou        :>
08:34 thexyz         gentoo is handy and simple
08:34 thexyz         and powerful too
08:34 thexyz         Calinou: you haven't even tried
08:35 Calinou        true
09:03 OldCoder       thexyz, you have met Bonsai right :-)
09:04 * OldCoder     laughs
09:04 OldCoder       I am copying that over to him
09:04 thexyz         umm?
09:08 OldCoder       markveidemanis, Hello
09:08 OldCoder       thexyz, Bonsai
09:08 OldCoder       thexyz, He was pleased to see that
09:08 OldCoder       I explained who he is, right?
09:36 markveidemanis /join ##mtmarktwain
09:50 Minetest-tan   GIT: RealBadAngel (RealBadAngel) commited to celeron55/minetest: L-System treegen b40e599866 2012-12-30T01:42:19-08:00
09:51 markveidemanis /join ##mtmarktwain <== i am OP
09:52 markveidemanis This world is on my personal server. Visit there to build. But it may move to the OldCoder Server Nexus. We are testing it. To see it on the Server Nexus visit minetest.org port 30010.
10:10 derakutenshi   hi
10:20 Zeg9           Hi!
10:24 markveidemanis zeg...
10:24 markveidemanis /join ##mtmarktwain
10:39 markveidemanis Hi!
10:59 markveidemanis hi
10:59 markveidemanis join ##mtmarktwain
10:59 markveidemanis am i silenced?
10:59 thexyz         markveidemanis: you are
10:59 markveidemanis why
10:59 thexyz         please, stop spamming
10:59 markveidemanis then how do you hear me?
11:01 markveidemanis join ##mtmarktwain
11:01 thexyz         stop it
11:05 markveidemanis !g irc voice
11:05 Minetest-tan   markveidemanis: http://www.ircbeginner.com/opvinfo/opvinfo.html
11:15 markveidemanis everyone on minetest.org:30010
11:22 markveidemanis minetest.org:30010
11:24 klunk          markveidemanis: what are you doing, you gonna be ban, unless everybody mute you ...
11:24 klunk          before
11:35 codile         uhhhm...
11:35 codile         what's going on here? :P
11:36 codile         :D
11:36 codile         is there really a #minecraft channel?
11:37 codile         :D
11:37 codile         but that channel isn't on freenode. isn't it?
11:37 codile         :D
11:37 codile         weird, freenode is for foss projects only :P
11:38 codile         well. let's tell em #minecraft shouldn't be on freenode :D
11:39 sapier         sounds like a very fast way to get banned too ;-)
11:39 codile         yeah ;D
11:39 Obiewan1111    If you even hint of a free solution to minecraft it's an insta ban.
11:39 codile         but it'll be fun
11:45 codile         soo
11:45 codile         lets see how fast i'll get banned :P
11:46 Obiewan1111    I'm going too.
11:48 fortytwo       Obiewan1111: Such bans are probably because approx 99% of people offering 'free solutions' are pirating :/
11:49 sapier         @fortytwo maybe true but just because 99% doing something wrong I don't like forcing other 1% stopping to do their legal actions too
11:50 fortytwo       I was thinking more that they probably just didn't take the time to check and see it was something different
11:51 sapier         even worse
11:51 PilzAdam       Hello everyone!
11:52 Obiewan1111    Cya guys.
11:52 PilzAdam       yep
11:53 fortytwo       sapier: Really depends on how it was said, if someone came into a channel and mentioned that there was a nice similar open source project I might check it out, but if they said 'free minecraft like game at this link...' I probably wouldn't
11:53 * fortytwo     has no idea of the circumstance in question
11:54 sapier         maybe :-) but I don't care enough about minecraft to go into details ;-)
11:58 sapier         can someone tell me why my client is lookig for a mesh file at location it's on server sometimes?
12:09 * klunk        have an existencial question :
12:10 klunk          could we go to 2013 without a "boule à facette" disco mod ?
12:11 sapier         I think we've survived end of world at 21. december we'll survive 2012-2013 transition too ;-)
12:13 klunk          ouf, thanks sapier :-)
12:13 sapier         but It'd be cool :-)
12:13 sapier         1.1seconds for initial on_generated function .... we need some built in spawn mechanism in core
12:39 Minetest-tan   GIT: dannydark (dannydark) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fixed compile issues on windows 912c48a490 2012-12-30T04:37:03-08:00
12:40 thexyz         whoops
12:41 Minetest-tan   GIT: dannydark (dannydark) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fixed compile issues on windows 5d18dc358b 2012-12-30T04:38:53-08:00
12:53 thexyz         http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4240
12:53 moltenbot      thexyz's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
12:55 Jordach        cant you just say new win32 build out?
12:55 thexyz         of course I can't
13:00 iqualfragile   WOOHOO l-system treegen
13:00 iqualfragile   is there any tool for deleting parts of a generated map?
13:02 klunk          (TNT, Landmine ?)---------------------------------------->/
13:03 klunk          (sorry, it's morning for me...)
13:03 Zeg9           klunk, I think he means for generating these parts again
13:03 Zeg9           Matin ? à 14 heures ? ...
13:03 klunk          ok, double off topic ...
13:03 klunk          saperlipopette, déjà ;-))
13:04 Zeg9           :-)
13:15 artur99        where can i find more atributtes for a mod?
13:15 * VanessaE     is back
13:17 VanessaE       iqualfragile: someone wrote a world "slicer" program recently that might be of use
13:17 VanessaE       if I could find the damn link
13:18 iqualfragile   sapier: bug-report: my client cant find the moddels for the cow
13:18 iqualfragile   it tries to search where the moddels are on the server
13:19 sapier         yea I've seen that happen to ... but for steer and boombomb not cow ... at least if error messages are correct
13:20 sapier         but there seems to be a major bug in callbackhandling too ... I've errors counting hundreds or registred callbacks ... i haven't even written next to so much callbacks
13:21 VanessaE       iqualfragile: maybe you can derive something useful from this:  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/129
13:29 klunk          artur99: hello, had you already looked into some innit.lua files about that ?
13:29 klunk          *init
13:29 markveidemanis [13:29] == ChanServ changed the topic of ########## to: Not so cool channel name
13:29 markveidemanis init?
13:30 klunk          yes init.lua of mods give you examples, no ?
13:30 artur99        yes
13:30 artur99        i saw some...
13:31 artur99        can u tell me whitch mod is most easyer to unserstand?
13:31 klunk          ok, API for mods not help you ?
13:32 artur99        just a little
13:33 klunk          defaut mod , to start I think.
13:33 artur99        whats the name for marble?
13:34 klunk          I will let place for other for this question because I'm making my first mod for... hem, some weeks :-)))
13:34 artur99        for example, in api, i saw this:
13:34 artur99        {'default:wood', 'default:wood', ''},
13:34 markveidemanis !go fuck your mother
13:34 markveidemanis HA1
13:34 markveidemanis it not work...
13:34 markveidemanis haha
13:34 Zeg9           Dude no, not on this channel --'
13:35 markveidemanis sorry!
13:35 markveidemanis !sorry
13:43 klunk          artur99: markveidemanis wasn't talking to you of course; yes in mod API, default:wood is used to make deco:wood ; this part ?
13:43 markveidemanis me?
13:43 klunk          markveidemanis: yes you wasn't talking to artur99, right ?
13:44 markveidemanis no
13:44 markveidemanis to zegbot
13:44 markveidemanis its a command
13:44 markveidemanis to make him leave
13:44 artur99        for wood is default:wood    , but for marble?
13:44 klunk          I know it, that's ok for me :-)
13:44 artur99        default:marble?
13:45 klunk          marble ? I don't think marble is in defaut mod, so it will become "original mod:marble" name
13:45 RealBadAngel   technic:marble
13:46 klunk          RealBadAngel: thanks !
13:46 artur99        aha
13:46 artur99        thanks
13:47 artur99        i made a register_node and a register_craft
13:47 artur99        do i need more?
13:47 klunk          is it a cookable stuff ?
13:48 artur99        no
13:48 klunk          will it possible to put stuff of your mod in a recipe ?
13:49 artur99        no
13:49 klunk          you need to solve dependencies if it depends something more than defaut mods
13:50 artur99        for example tehnich mod?
13:50 artur99        *technic
13:51 klunk          yes
13:51 VanessaE       you don't need to worry about dependencies if all you're doing is crafting.
13:51 VanessaE       if you register_craft() with items that the game doesn't recognize, the craft just doesn't work, but no error is produced.
13:51 * klunk        let speaking serious modders*
13:52 VanessaE       so you can "support" a mod e.g. technic, without necessarily depending on it.
13:52 VanessaE       homedecor does this a lot for objects that need materials from e.g. moreores or moreblocks
13:52 VanessaE       that way the rest of the mod still works if those others aren't present.
13:53 artur99        i maked a textures folder with an image, and a init.lua file
13:53 artur99        in init.lua, there is a register_craft and a register_node
13:54 artur99        do i need more?
13:55 VanessaE       for your first mod?  probably not
13:56 VanessaE       you should add comments to the start of init.lua identifying the mod, with your name/nick and date and license
13:56 VanessaE       but that's not critical, just a good idea
13:57 artur99        im just testing it on my pc...
14:00 klunk          he he , glad you are not testing on mine (stupid joke). Do you know where you can find debug.txt on your pc ?
14:02 markveidemanis hey, we are messing around on ###minetest
14:03 klunk          you should erase your debug.txt, then test your mod in singleplayer word, so that your debug.txt will talking only about what hapened with your creation ?
14:03 markveidemanis hey, we are messing around on ###minetest come join
14:03 markveidemanis /join ###minetest
14:03 Zeg9           mark...
14:03 Zeg9           No advertising.
14:03 VanessaE       markveidemanis: stop advertising channels and servers
14:03 artur99        i tryed in a singlepalyer mod
14:03 markveidemanis ok
14:04 Zeg9           If you want to advertise go on #minecraft XD
14:04 markveidemanis its just for messing around....
14:04 markveidemanis i will!
14:05 artur99        but i have errror...
14:06 klunk          artur99: do you know somewhere to paste and share code ?
14:07 artur99        wait a second
14:15 markveidemanis !up minetest.org 30010
14:15 moltenbot      Minetest server minetest.org:30010 UP
14:16 markveidemanis !join it
14:20 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3954
14:20 moltenbot      markveidemanis's link: MarkTwain Server (OldCoder Hosting) (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
14:20 OldCoder       Hi
14:20 devlab         tsktsk, hello OldCoder
14:21 OldCoder       Hmm?
14:21 OldCoder       What?
14:21 OldCoder       ?
14:21 OldCoder       devlab, ^
14:21 * OldCoder     is puzzled
14:21 VanessaE       Is there some way to set the game's tollback recorder to go farther than 24 hours?
14:21 devlab         i was refering to markveidemanis's request to join his server
14:21 markveidemanis i like Puzzles
14:21 OldCoder       Ah
14:22 markveidemanis p
14:27 VanessaE       nevermind, forget my question.
14:28 thexyz         something random http://i.imgur.com/CDcPj.png
14:28 VanessaE       thexyz: almost looks like something out of lincity-ng
14:29 VanessaE       (because of the isometric view)
14:32 thexyz         some day we'll have nice isometric mapper (like overviewer)
14:38 thexyz         well, it probably will be slow as hell
14:40 thexyz         isn't it cute? http://i.imgur.com/8heGU.jpg
14:43 RealBadAngel   cute can be a playboy bunny, this is just good lookin ;)
14:43 Jordach        code this... NOW.
14:45 thexyz         john_minetest: with my script in python
14:45 Zeg9           lol everyone is using python today
14:47 VanessaE       thexyz: they look nice, at any rate
14:47 iqualfragile   VanessaE: what looks nice?
14:48 VanessaE       [12-30 09:42] <thexyz> isn't it cute? http://i.imgur.com/8heGU.jpg
14:48 VanessaE       [12-30 09:29] <thexyz> something random http://i.imgur.com/CDcPj.png
14:48 RealBadAngel   wonder how it could look like with an oak
14:49 RealBadAngel   thexyz, can you spawn one and make a shot?
14:50 thexyz         uhh, now I need to find somebody familiar with imagemagick to create script which produces block images http://docs.overviewer.org/en/latest/design/designdoc/#block-rendering
14:50 jeffrash       OldCoder john_minetest, I've noticed an interesting bug with protection blocks.
14:51 jeffrash       I can add blocks one block closer then I can remove blocks
14:52 OldCoder       Hmm
14:52 OldCoder       thexyz, I magick without tragick consequences
14:52 OldCoder       If nobody else helps see me after I rest
14:53 jeffrash       yes, but I can't remove the block I placed 6 blocks away
14:54 jeffrash       I can place at 6 but not remove
14:54 jeffrash       I think that's what's happening anyway.
14:55 RealBadAngel   wheres the mod source?
14:56 jeffrash       I'll be happy to help test
14:58 iqualfragile   thexyz: that picture you posted ( http://i.imgur.com/8heGU.jpg ) looks heavily like there is something fucked up with the map-generation
14:59 VanessaE       brb
15:00 iqualfragile   OldCoder: how to spawn l-system-trees?
15:00 RealBadAngel   http://pastebin.com/N9devVAy
15:00 moltenbot      RealBadAngel's link: protector.can_dig = function(r,pos,digger,onlyowner)  local ok=true  for ix = po - Pastebin.com
15:00 OldCoder       iqualfragile, I don't know MT internals yet
15:00 OldCoder       Except on a piece by piece basis
15:00 RealBadAngel   starting at line #99 it should look like this to get full radius
15:00 OldCoder       And it is 7am my time
15:00 OldCoder       I won't be awake long
15:00 RealBadAngel   +1 is missing
15:01 RealBadAngel   https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-protect/blob/master/protector/init.lua#L99
15:01 moltenbot      RealBadAngel's link: minetest-protect/protector/init.lua at master ? Zeg9/minetest-protect ? GitHub
15:01 iqualfragile   im sorry i wanted to say: RealBadAngel: how to spawn l-system trees
15:01 iqualfragile   Oldcoder: did you get mobf to run?
15:01 OldCoder       iqualfragile, the animals are there
15:02 OldCoder       Does that mean mobf is working?
15:02 iqualfragile   jup
15:02 OldCoder       http://christfollower.me/images/mt121229_chicken.jpg
15:02 OldCoder       http://christfollower.me/images/mt121229_gull.jpg
15:02 RealBadAngel   iqualfragile, http://realbadangel.pl/treegen_tools.zip
15:02 OldCoder       http://christfollower.me/images/mt121229_sheep.jpg
15:02 RealBadAngel   use example spawning sticks
15:02 OldCoder       That sheep's face needs work
15:02 OldCoder       I might do it
15:02 iqualfragile   OldCoder: all the nodeboxes are gona be replaced by real models soon
15:03 iqualfragile   afk
15:03 OldCoder       k
15:03 VanessaE[L]    there, transfer that to the laptop.
15:03 devlab         what's the use for marble?
15:03 VanessaE[L]    decoration
15:06 devlab         Zinc?
15:07 RealBadAngel   many uses
15:07 devlab         i know that Zinc + Copper = Brass
15:07 RealBadAngel   http://technic.kosyak.info/
15:07 moltenbot      RealBadAngel's link: Techic recipe list
15:15 * VanessaE[L]  relaxes in her easy chair
15:19 Jordach        RealBadAngel, cant you use technic.realbadangel.pl#
15:20 RealBadAngel   this site is made by ObKo, not me
15:20 RealBadAngel   we havent decided where to host it yet
15:25 klunk          yes
15:25 klunk          john_minetest: ? :-)
15:26 klunk          oh yes ?!?
15:27 klunk          arg, I can't now, will it be in inventory ?
15:27 devlab         RealBadAngel: the ginder is a Low Voltage or a high voltage machine?
15:27 RealBadAngel   low voltage
15:28 klunk          (finally, my arms becomes normal lenght )
15:28 klunk          john_minetest: thanks a lot for that !
15:28 devlab         with what generators it works?
15:28 klunk          I will take it as soon as I 'm on Zegaton
15:29 sapier         did anyone use meshes in client/server environment by now? seems mesh loading ain't working at all?
15:29 devlab         RealBadAngel: the coal driven generator isnt working
15:30 RealBadAngel   devlab, whats the problem with it?
15:30 devlab         Time it taked to generate enegry
15:31 RealBadAngel   make sure its connected to the battery box
15:32 RealBadAngel   Low voltage one, not medium
15:32 pier3          hi
15:32 VanessaE[L]    hi
15:32 Calinou        hi
15:32 Calinou        VanessaE[L]: why [L]?
15:32 VanessaE[L]    laptop
15:32 * Calinou      renames to Calinou[D]
15:33 pier3          i'm trying to setup for the first time a minetest server, and having few issues with conf
15:33 Calinou        wait, I'm using linux, so
15:33 * Calinou      renames to GNU/Calinou[D]
15:33 VanessaE[L]    lol
15:33 Calinou        pier3: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
15:33 pier3          Calinou, i know
15:33 pier3          :)
15:33 sapier         calinou is  is gpl now lets copy and modify him
15:33 pier3          typing slowwoolly sorry
15:34 Calinou        sapier: btw, why are you using a non commercial clause?
15:34 Calinou        it is beyond pointless (and are you even allowed to do that? that breaks the 4 freedoms defined by the GPL)
15:34 VanessaE[L]    sapier, make copies of Calinou?  are you insane!?
15:34 VanessaE[L]    ;)
15:34 Calinou        it's not like a random guy will start selling your mod
15:35 pier3          first thing weird : when i craft something (wood of land of whatever), the *whatever* respawn automatically
15:35 sapier         if not ... gpl won't apply so no license at all would be given resulting in having no license given at all ;-)
15:35 * VanessaE[L]  listens to her cats going batshit insane upstairs
15:35 Calinou        sapier: "no license" does not mean anything
15:35 VanessaE[L]    pier3, are you using creative mode?
15:36 Calinou        you always need some kind of license, even if it is "all rights reserved"
15:36 sapier         @calinou ... no not quite yet but that's exacly what i intended to prevent
15:36 Calinou        there is no need to be overprotective about it, we're playing/modding a game, we're all trying to have fun
15:36 sapier         If there ain't a license you in fact wouldn't be allowed to do anything with it
15:37 sapier         I'm already thinking about other licenses ... but doing that I'm not sure if gpl is best for a lua mod
15:38 OldCoder       sapier, There are many possible licenses. How about one of the Creative Commons group?
15:38 * OldCoder     is going to sleep now
15:38 sapier         cc-by-nc-sa would fit best :-)
15:38 * OldCoder     notes that many changes were made on Saturday
15:38 OldCoder       Yep
15:38 OldCoder       That one is a favorite of mine
15:38 Calinou        nc is stupid
15:38 OldCoder       That is fine to discuss
15:38 pier3          VanessaE[L], http://pastebin.ca/2298055
15:38 Calinou        zlib ftw :>
15:38 moltenbot      pier3's link: pastebin - Unnamed - post number 2298055
15:39 sapier         but wouldn't help marktraceur at all ... cc-by-sa wouldn't either both ain't gpl compatible
15:39 OldCoder       Perhaps "appropriate" vs. "inappropriate" is better than "stupid"
15:39 Calinou        sapier: why are you against any kind of commercial stuff..
15:39 Calinou        everyone needs to eat
15:39 OldCoder       Yep
15:39 OldCoder       Food is O.K.
15:39 Calinou        buying USB drives for installing linux too
15:39 OldCoder       He is not "against" commercial maybe
15:39 sapier         have a look at minecraft he didn't invent that sort of block games but made lots of money
15:39 VanessaE[L]    pier3, ok, clearly not..    but what do you mean by "respawn" then?
15:40 OldCoder       Zzz
15:40 Calinou        sapier: and? it is fine to take other people's ideas and make money
15:40 thexyz         iqualfragile: http://i.imgur.com/xT5Zd.jpg
15:40 ecube          ?
15:40 sapier         @calinou I don't think so ;-)
15:40 Calinou        realize: your mod is a small-ish piece of code for a game. it's not like someone will even ATTEMPT making money with this
15:40 Calinou        did anyone attempt making money with one of my mods? nope
15:41 Zeg9           Back
15:41 sapier         @calinou requesting an insurance after your house burnt down won't help either ;-)
15:41 pier3          VanessaE[L], when i craft (destroy) something, it reappears few seconds later
15:41 pier3          a block
15:42 sapier         noone did this by now ain't a guarantee noone will do in future
15:42 VanessaE[L]    pier3, read-only map file?  permissions issue?
15:42 pier3          mmm ... checking
15:42 Zeg9           sapier, on zegaton we use carts and boats that both have models
15:42 sapier         I can't even put animals modpack to glpv3 there's already cc-by-sa stuff in there
15:44 VanessaE[L]    *grumble*
15:44 VanessaE[L]    bbiaf.
15:45 sapier         so probably mobf 2.x will be cc-by-sa completely ... not sure by now
15:45 sapier         does anyone use mesh based entities by now in her/his mods?
15:47 thexyz         aww, how should I do this?
15:47 thexyz         convert default_dirt.png -matte -background "transparent" -scale 17x17\! -rotate 45 +repage -crop "25x25+1+1" -channel A -threshold 99% -scale 24x24\! -channel A -threshold 99% -scale 24x12\! isometric_cube.png
15:47 thexyz         (top side)
15:48 VanessaE[L]    ok, one more try...
15:48 thexyz         I'd better steal some code from minecraft overviewer
15:49 VanessaE       there we go.  pain in my ass.
15:49 VanessaE       Calinou, nVidia 101, ATI 2.
15:49 ecube          oh god what
15:51 VanessaE       ?
15:54 Zeg9           sapier, PilzAdam uses meshes in carts and boats
15:54 Zeg9           also jordan uses meshes in santa and npc
15:55 sapier         did anyon try this in client server environment? I know its working singleplayer but looking at minetests code I doubt any mash will be loaded
15:58 sapier         Am I plain wrong or didn't anybody try those modes you're mentioning with server on different machine?
16:05 moltenbot      john_minetest's link: Minecraft Dynamic Map
16:07 thexyz         john_minetest: yeah, that's not too hard to implement
16:07 davidpace      Hello Guys
16:07 VanessaE       hi david
16:07 Zeg9           Hi
16:08 Zeg9           sapier, sorry for the late answer but on my world, we have both carts and boats and they work fine
16:08 Zeg9           And it is on a server
16:08 sapier         do you have same folder structure on client?
16:08 Zeg9           No, but ... yeah it's true I have both mods on singleplayer
16:09 Zeg9           I'll try to remove them and tell you if I still see them on the server.
16:09 sapier         my clients trys to load meshes using paths from server ... but of course they aren't there on my client
16:09 davidpace      VanessaE, I can't say how much I love your texture pack!
16:09 Zeg9           On the server, the mods are in /opt/something
16:10 VanessaE       :)
16:10 Zeg9           on my singleplayer it's in /home/user/.minetest//...
16:10 Exio           i should try VanessaE's 512x texture pack
16:10 Exio           (in this netbook)
16:11 sapier         do you use 0.4.4?
16:11 VanessaE       Exio: are you TRYING to kill your netbook? :-)
16:11 Exio           yeah >:D
16:11 Zeg9           I use the latest git.
16:11 Zeg9           Without the mods on singleplayer, I still see the models on server.
16:12 Zeg9           Maybe they are in the cache, though.
16:12 sapier         if they'd be in cash it'd be fine
16:12 sapier         thats what I expected
16:12 PilzAdam       sapier, I just tested it on VanessaE's server: I havent installed carts and the models shows up correclty on the server
16:12 VanessaE       PilzAdam: *usually* they do :)
16:13 Zeg9           Yeah, it's true that sometimes models don't show
16:13 VanessaE       PilzAdam: sometimes they turn "inside out" for lack of a better word
16:13 Zeg9           but only sometimes
16:13 Zeg9           That, too
16:13 Zeg9           The normals are inverted.
16:13 Zeg9           It's a known bug I think
16:13 Zeg9           And sometimes players are invisible.
16:14 sapier         ok seems problem is a little bit different .. if you specify a FULL path to a mesh it's gonna work singleplayer only
16:14 PilzAdam       john_minetest, I am running a vanilla game
16:15 PilzAdam       going to play BF 3 now; bbl
16:17 Zeg9           sapier: why would you specify full path to a mesh??
16:17 sapier         because it didn't work with name ... probably this was another bug
16:18 sapier         bug in my mod of course
16:19 thexyz         http://ompldr.org/vZ3Z1dQ
16:19 sapier         but it's a funny way to make minetest open arbitrary files on clients machine
16:19 sfan5          can i use code:blocks with minetest?
16:20 sapier         @sfan5: why not?
16:21 sfan5          i just don't know how..
16:21 Jordach        sfan5, for modifying .cpp or .lua?
16:21 sapier         I don't think it depends on minetest what IDE you want to use
16:22 sfan5          Jordach: both
16:22 sapier         I recommend eclipse for both ... at least on windows
16:22 Jordach        code::blocks does support lua to my knowlegde
16:22 thexyz         yeah, eclipse works pretty fine
16:22 sapier         at least on linux eclipse is a little bit slow
16:22 thexyz         tried it once
16:23 sapier         there are lua as well as c++ additions for eclipse ldt and cdt
16:25 sfan5          ...
16:25 sfan5          cmake can generate a project file for you
16:25 sfan5          (for code::blocks
16:25 sfan5          )
16:26 VanessaE       hey neko
16:27 Calinou        <PilzAdam> going to play BF 3 now; bbl
16:27 Calinou        oh god, no
16:27 Calinou        now we know pilzadam plays minecraft too
16:27 davidpace      ?
16:27 ecube          ?
16:27 Calinou        all BF3 players play minecraft, fact
16:27 davidpace      BF 3?
16:27 Jordach        would it be fair if we laughed at you for what games you play?
16:28 NekoGloop      BattleField3
16:28 davidpace      What is BF3?
16:28 ecube          No, I'm just saying, what's... nvm
16:28 davidpace      ph
16:28 ecube          what's bf3
16:28 ecube          yes, neko answered it
16:28 NekoGloop      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnWDB1vfFhA
16:28 davidpace      Moltenbot hates you
16:29 NekoGloop      I know.
16:29 NekoGloop      I'm blacklisted.
16:29 Calinou        BF3 is african word for "be an idiot on the forums, be banned from any EA game)
16:29 Calinou        s/)/"
16:30 Jordach        Calinou, PilzAdam does not use the BF3 forums
16:30 Jordach        also; its on xbox360
16:31 ecube          Calinou: not all bf3 players play minecraft
16:31 thexyz         http://ompldr.org/vZ3Z1eQ, will publish script in a moment
16:32 thexyz         seems the alpha layer is fucked up =(
16:33 NekoGloop      Fact: xbox is shit
16:34 NekoGloop      john_minetest: A) it's an off-topic channel, officially. B) while source isnt published, people fuck with it anyway and they dont care.
16:36 ecube          john_minetest: that's not really true
16:36 ecube          freenode is open source, but not necessarily for open source projects
16:37 moltenbot      john_minetest's link: Freenode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:38 NekoGloop      john_minetest: Read what e cube said.
16:38 ecube          john_minetest: open source AND software focused
16:41 ecube          that's wikipedia
16:41 ecube          there's nothing about it in the channel guidelines http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
16:41 moltenbot      ecube's link: freenode philosophy: channel guidelines
16:42 ecube          therefore, people can create channels that aren't about free software
16:43 thexyz         Unlawful activities and their related support activities are considered off-topic, as are inappropriate advertising, heavy media file trading, gaming and proprietary game software modding, warez, hax0r activity, porn and various forms of antisocial behavior, including (but not limited to) political, racial, ethnic, religious or gender-related invective. Off-topic activity may result in users being barred from the network.
16:44 thexyz         http://freenode.net/policy.shtml
16:44 moltenbot      thexyz's link: freenode: Policies
16:46 sapier1        I'm not quite sure what star trek transporter data calculation was but a huuuuuuge amount of data :-)
16:46 ecube          john_minetest: more than freenode uses
16:48 VanessaE       bbl
16:52 Jordach        thexyz, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/378
16:52 moltenbot      Jordach's link: Cave gen fixes. by RealBadAngel ? Pull Request #378 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
16:52 thexyz         care to explain this part?
16:52 thexyz         -    s16 route_y_max = -of.Y + stone_surface_max_y + max_tunnel_diameter/2 + 7;
16:52 thexyz         +    s16 route_y_max = -of.Y + stone_surface_max_y;
16:53 Jordach        https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/commit/2d3bead500710f68ccb1b677218b9c75946f1458#L0R1740
16:53 moltenbot      Jordach's link: Fixes to cave generation. ?  2d3bead ? RealBadAngel/minetest ? GitHub
16:57 thexyz         Jordach: no, the one I posted
16:57 Jordach        dunno, compile and see
16:57 thexyz         btw, can somebody think of name for isometric mapgen repo?
16:57 Jordach        Mined#
16:57 Jordach        Mine2d
16:58 Jordach        VoxMap
17:01 thexyz         =(
17:01 Zeg9           IsoGEn
17:02 Zeg9           People will think it's something for CDs lol
17:02 iqualfragile   thexyz: looks better, but what was wrong?
17:03 thexyz         iqualfragile: i mixed up x and z
17:03 thexyz         in getBlockAsInteger
17:06 iqualfragile   ok
17:07 iqualfragile   RealBadAngel: not bad, not bad at all
17:07 jojoa1997      how do you know when a pull request is added
17:10 jojoa1997      anyone
17:10 jojoa1997      ?
17:11 Zeg9           Just "watch" the repository on github
17:12 Jeija          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUzyw1a7Ghs&hd=1 << Proof of concept for water shaders (just waves)
17:12 moltenbot      Jeija's link: Minetest Water Shaders - Proof of Concept - YouTube
17:14 iqualfragile   Jeija: how do you find out wich level the water has?
17:14 jojoa1997      you mean height
17:14 iqualfragile   yeah
17:15 jojoa1997      isnt water always at 0
17:16 jojoa1997      Jeija: "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUzyw1a7Ghs&hd=1 << Proof of concept for water shaders (just waves)" how did you do this it is AMAZING
17:16 moltenbot      jojoa1997's link: Minetest Water Shaders - Proof of Concept - YouTube
17:16 Jeija          that's the trick: pos.y -= 3 + sin(pos.z/wavelength+time*wavespeed*wavelength) * waveheight;
17:17 Zeg9           Jeija, great !
17:17 Jeija          and time is the float of timeofday
17:17 Jeija          which means that using these shaders needs minor changes to the source code
17:17 jojoa1997      how much lag does this add
17:17 jojoa1997      or is it little
17:17 Jeija          no lag for me, but I don't know how it performs on other pcs
17:18 Jeija          gtg, bbl
17:18 Zeg9           It shouldn't lag that much
17:18 Zeg9           If you already use shaders, it probably won't change
17:19 jojoa1997      ok that is good
17:19 jojoa1997      gtg
17:21 babyface1031   anyone know how to use the barn to bread animals in the animal mod?
17:22 sapier1        put leaves in
17:23 sapier1        don't use 1.9.5 but 1.9.6 barn crashes in 1.9.5
17:23 babyface1031   i am useing the one on oldcoders server
17:24 sapier1        ok then its only put leaves in and have 2 animals of correct type nearby
17:24 Kacey          hello
17:27 Kacey          anyone on?
17:28 * kizeren      is hiding.....
17:30 davidpace      Back!
17:30 davidpace      Hi Kacey
17:30 davidpace      Hi kizeren
17:30 Kacey          hi\
17:31 * Kacey        hands davidpace a cookie
17:31 kizeren        hi davidpace
17:31 davidpace      Ooooo Thanks
17:31 * sokomine     hopes to get a cookie as well :-)
17:31 * davidpace    muches on the cookie
17:31 * sokomine     looks hungry
17:32 * davidpace    hands sokomine leftovers ;)
17:32 * Kacey        give sokomine a cookie
17:32 * sokomine     thanks kacey and eats the cookie
17:32 Kacey          yw
17:32 sokomine       davidpace: there wheren't many leftovers :)
17:33 davidpace      No, not a lot. But still better then nothing :0
17:33 davidpace      Hi mauvebic
17:33 mauvebic       howdy
17:33 * Kacey        gives mauvebic a cookie
17:34 mauvebic       ugh stupid upstairs neighbour
17:34 mauvebic       i try to be sympathetic about the whole tourrets thing, but could you please not fucking move a couch at 3am lol
17:34 Kacey          lol
17:35 mauvebic       every other day sounds like he's got a pony up there :/ lol
17:35 Kacey          lol
17:35 Jordach        is it "little"?
17:35 mauvebic       judging from the sound of it, no lol
17:36 Kacey          i like little ponies
17:36 davidpace      I like pizza
17:36 mauvebic       tried horse meat once, was unimpressed lol
17:36 davidpace      lol
17:36 Kacey          i want to eat a guinea pig
17:37 davidpace      ~~~~~lol~~~~~~~ Someone swimming
17:37 mauvebic       sharkmeat is hella expensive and tastes almosts like fishticks lol
17:37 mauvebic       (i probably wasn't holding it right)
17:37 davidpace      .______________.
17:37 davidpace      Whale
17:37 iqualfragile   hmm… we need bossmobs in minetest
17:37 Kacey          (:) cookie fail
17:38 mauvebic       bossmobs?
17:38 iqualfragile   yeah, bossmobs
17:38 mauvebic       if theyre anything like my bosses, they'll layabout the server all day drinking coffee and "delegating" lol
17:39 iqualfragile   …
17:39 kizeren        heh first ban on my server.
17:39 sapier1        it's difficult to create reasonable movement for mobs larger that 1 block :-)
17:39 mauvebic       we could even get the douchebag from office space as an NPC
17:40 iqualfragile   it could just be fast
17:40 iqualfragile   and deadly
17:40 davidpace      They can fire you
17:40 davidpace      Literally
17:40 mauvebic       what is a bossmob? i dont think its what im thinking
17:40 Kacey          like DMs?
17:40 iqualfragile   or an nest wich spawns  alot of scorpions
17:41 sapier1        @iqualfragile that'd be easy
17:41 sapier1        a nest doesn't have to move :-)
17:41 davidpace      Molten bt, don't fail me now: http://www.youtube.com/user/MinetestCommunity?feature=mhee
17:41 moltenbot      davidpace's link: MinetestCommunity - YouTube
17:41 davidpace      HAHA!
17:42 davidpace      Just a little channel I run
17:43 davidpace      Where'd everyone go? O.o
17:43 Jordach        mauvebic, i worked out how to make asteroids
17:43 * Kacey        hides behind a pole
17:44 Obiewan1111    http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEz5oD_Pa_sbj01Ms837GMQ?feature=mhee
17:44 moltenbot      Obiewan1111's link: Minetest GamingVids - YouTube
17:44 Obiewan1111    That's the channel my Quick Build Challenges will be uploaded to.
17:44 davidpace      Why don't you upload the video mod review you did?
17:45 mauvebic       asteroids? how :-)
17:45 * davidpace    finds Kacey and asks why she was hiding?
17:45 Jordach        see pm
17:45 Kacey          im a guy XD
17:45 sokomine       sapier: yes. the mt-world is not very cow-friendly :-) they need larger plains
17:45 Obiewan1111    It wasn't that good. It didn't come out good enough.
17:45 davidpace      *he :-)
17:45 Kacey          lol
17:46 Kacey          im hiding because i want to
17:46 davidpace      Why the name Kacey, is that your real name?
17:46 Kacey          no but everyone knows me by my real name and Kacey
17:46 davidpace      Obiwan1111. Then make it again
17:46 sapier1        I've recently created a spawner spawning cows only on  a little bit more flat lands ... but doesn't see, to worl as expected :-) I'll have to do some debuging prior 2.0 for this to work
17:47 Obiewan1111    I don't want to.. It's your idea, and I don't want to jump on it.
17:47 davidpace      MY IDEA?
17:47 davidpace      LOL
17:47 sapier1        btw 1.9.6 looks quite promising in scope of performance I'd be glad if anyone could test too and tell me if I'm wrong :)
17:47 Obiewan1111    Well, you did them.
17:47 davidpace      You said you'd do them thw right way
17:47 davidpace      *them
17:47 sokomine       cows will get even more rare then :-(
17:47 Obiewan1111    No, not your idea for me to do them. -.-
17:48 davidpace      Well, i thought technically they aren't good ennough
17:48 Obiewan1111    Your idea for you to start them.
17:48 davidpace      Yep
17:48 davidpace      But you said you'd do them
17:48 davidpace      Why arent you
17:48 sokomine       can you do something about their model/texture? i saw a cow from above and the texture led to a strange pattern. black/white cows and fully brown cows would be nice as well :-)
17:48 Obiewan1111    I don't have the time.
17:48 davidpace      So why'd you say you'd do them
17:48 sapier1        @sokomine yes they will :-/ but having a cow stand on top of a single block with legs before and after solid ground is wiered too
17:48 Obiewan1111    Plus I'm doing my Minetest Quick Build Challenge.
17:49 davidpace      And I can't do them, because I'm not doing them "Good" enough
17:49 Obiewan1111    Because I had the time then.
17:49 sokomine       sapier: hard to tell. mapgen got so slow in my testworld that few things work there :-(
17:49 davidpace      And why didn't you do them then>
17:49 Obiewan1111    Because when it's Christmas, I spend more time with my family.
17:49 Kacey          afk
17:50 sapier1        hmm I don't know if black would look better .. but I'm not very good at creating textures
17:50 sokomine       sapier: yes it is :-) as i said: not very cow-friendly environemnt. catch someone who does a goat :-) they can jump high and enjoy steep mountains
17:50 sokomine       me neither :-(
17:50 davidpace      So why don't you say on the forums that you're quitting the mod reviews
17:51 babyface1031   sapier1: what can you do with the feathers and raw meat
17:51 Obiewan1111    Because no-one cared anyway.
17:51 Obiewan1111    Apart from one person.
17:51 sapier1        in mobf nothing by now
17:51 davidpace      I did, jojoa does, Aqua does
17:51 davidpace      Casimir does
17:51 Obiewan1111    Then I haven't looked at the post for a bit then. :/
17:51 sapier1        they're tought to be used by other mods
17:52 sapier1        1.9.x doesn't have raw meat anymore but lamb beef chicken ...
17:52 babyface1031   ok
17:52 davidpace      Regardless Obiewan1111, you have to tell them you can't do the mod reviews
17:52 babyface1031   idk what version we have on the server
17:53 davidpace      babyface1031, can I have settime privs? It's really annoying when I try to build something in the night.
17:54 davidpace      If not, okay
17:55 iqualfragile   babyface1031: or just install some kind of beds mod
17:56 babyface1031   we have 2 bed mods davidpace
17:56 davidpace      Sorry, I don't know you that well. Oooo Okay! Could you add the crafting guide?
17:56 davidpace      *server not you
17:58 babyface1031   i can get you the link to the 2 mods i think the craft guide is in the forum
17:59 davidpace      Okay..
17:59 babyface1031   davidpace: i pm you the links
17:59 davidpace      Okay
18:08 thexyz         here it is https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia
18:08 moltenbot      thexyz's link: xyzz/onomatopoeia ? GitHub
18:12 Zeg9           thexyz: Trying...
18:12 thexyz         nah, it's more like PoC now
18:13 Zeg9           thexyz http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/11732
18:13 moltenbot      Zeg9's link: Pastebit, beep beep beep
18:15 thexyz         Zeg9: try pasting this function https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/util/minetestmapper.py#L91 into your util.py
18:15 moltenbot      thexyz's link: minetest/util/minetestmapper.py at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
18:15 thexyz         then tell me if it works
18:16 Zeg9           It works
18:16 Zeg9           How much time does it take?
18:16 Zeg9           the map.sqlite is 128MB
18:16 thexyz         it's DAMN SLOW
18:16 Zeg9           oh, forget that - it's done
18:16 thexyz         ATM it only generates ~100 blocks
18:17 thexyz         like I said, it's PoC
18:17 Zeg9           How do I add mods?
18:17 thexyz         can you upload your map?
18:17 Zeg9           The map.sqlite or .png?
18:17 thexyz         .png one
18:17 thexyz         (just curious)
18:18 Zeg9           It misses the stonesquare from moreblocks so it doesn't look well
18:18 thexyz         see mapper.py
18:18 thexyz         it contains textures dictionary
18:18 Zeg9           Oh, I see
18:19 thexyz         well, adding wallmounted/facedir nodes would definetly be fun
18:19 thexyz         same for nodebox ones
18:19 Zeg9           http://ompldr.org/vZ3Z3NQ
18:19 Zeg9           I'll make one with the stonesqaure now
18:19 Zeg9           stonesquare*
18:20 thexyz         huh
18:20 thexyz         well, I'll try to add google maps api to it
18:20 Zeg9           I guess the invisible part is desert
18:23 Zeg9           Regenerating with desert sand, stonesquare and tree top texture
18:27 Zeg9           Great job thexyz. Now you still need support for fencelike, raillike, nodebox, ... Good luck !
18:27 Zeg9           ...And loading lua mods
18:30 Zeg9           I could try to load blocks from lua somehow, thexyz
18:31 thexyz         that's not a big problem, the big one is about nodeboxes
18:31 Zeg9           Yeah
18:32 thexyz         but any contribution is welcome
18:33 thexyz         we can try to make minetest generate blocks for us and then use them
18:33 thexyz         like cornernote's gamewiki did
18:34 Obiewan1111    Come on Moltenbot.. https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=Minetest+is+an+amazing+game!&oq=Minetest+is+an+amazing+game!&gs_l=hp.3...1194.9918.0.11002.30.24.1.0.0.0.1575.16453.4-7j9j5j2j1.24.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.fuVdEBaHMbo&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.d2k&fp=6a1904ffca346b5f&bpcl=40096503&biw=1228&bih=714
18:34 moltenbot      Obiewan1111's link: Google
18:34 Obiewan1111    -.-
18:34 jin_xi         wtf is this shit
18:34 mauvebic       looks like simcity :-)
18:35 mauvebic       how long would it take to run on a 10Kx10K grid?
18:36 Zeg9           mauvebic, it took like 1 or 2 minutes to make that: http://ompldr.org/vZ3Z3Yw
18:38 mauvebic       ill try to get my whole map with it later today, curious to see what my giant mountain looks like in isometricx
18:38 mauvebic       *isometric
18:41 iqualfragile   https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=xx-pirate&q=minetest+is+awsome
18:42 davidpace      Hehe
18:50 sokomine       looks good :-) open transport tycoon seems to use a similar worldview irrc? only problem is that that isometric image in itshelf is far too big. took me some time to download
18:50 sokomine       would be very nice for towns though
18:51 PilzAdam       back
18:51 mauvebic       you can compress with gimp
18:51 PilzAdam       Calinou, I dont play MC
18:51 mauvebic       id rather have a HQ local copy and GIMP it afterwards
18:51 thexyz         poor you
18:51 moltenbot      john_minetest's link: Pastebit, beep beep beep
18:51 thexyz         ok, I'll commit the fix right now
18:52 thexyz         done, redownload
18:52 thexyz         (don't forget to upload your map.png ^^)
19:04 thexyz         it's PoC, remember?
19:04 thexyz         == proof of concept
19:06 Jordach        did you mean: Piece of Crap?
19:06 Calinou        lol
19:07 Calinou        Jordach: I thought it was that :P
19:07 thexyz         Jordach: same thing
19:07 thexyz         as for now it's piece of crap, for sure
19:07 thexyz         john_minetest: see mapper.py
19:07 thexyz         add your node in similar way
19:11 PilzAdam       thexyz, what dependencies does your mappger have?
19:11 PilzAdam       *mapper
19:11 thexyz         same as default one
19:12 PilzAdam       ImportError: No module named numpy
19:13 PilzAdam       so there are more dependencies than the default mapper
19:14 moltenbot      john_minetest's link: Pastebit, beep beep beep
19:14 thexyz         pastebin full mapper.py
19:15 Kacey          back
19:15 davidpace      Hello Kacey
19:15 Kacey          lol mini bikes are fun
19:16 babyface1031   anyone know thw irc chat rooms for oldcoders servers
19:16 kizeren        #<gamename> I thought
19:19 moltenbot      john_minetest's link: Pastebit, beep beep beep
19:19 mauvebic       updated https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/home/nodex :-)
19:19 moltenbot      mauvebic's link: nodex - mauvemods
19:20 babyface1031   ok ty
19:20 VanessaE       hey
19:20 thexyz         john_minetest: you forgot ,
19:20 PilzAdam       thexyz, works fine now
19:24 davidpace      Lunch Break AFK ;-)
19:25 * PilzAdam     added water, sand and desert sand/stone
19:26 mauvebic       his or yours repo?
19:26 PilzAdam       only loca
19:26 PilzAdam       *local
19:27 PilzAdam       thexyz, the transparency of the water isnt handled correctly, the nodes under water should be drawn too
19:27 thexyz         there's no transparency at all
19:27 thexyz         see leaves
19:28 davidpace      back with  a hotdog
19:30 PilzAdam       I removed the transperancy in the textures now
19:32 mauvebic       isometric or sqlite? lol
19:33 mauvebic       thank god ompldr has no limits lol
19:34 mauvebic       though what really sucks: uploading a large file...DB lock lol
19:34 PilzAdam       http://www.zimg.eu/i/2298557033
19:34 mauvebic       wtf
19:34 mauvebic       lol
19:35 mauvebic       300mb sqlite =(moreorless)= 600mb iso lol
19:36 mauvebic       next step -> to cpp lol
19:36 Kacey          back and hello all
19:36 marktraceur    sapier1: Re GFDL, I don't mind not having sound, so I can strip out non-compatible media if it's otherwise relicensable
19:36 marktraceur    sapier1: CC-BY-SA isn't used for software for good reason
19:38 mauvebic       lol enough w/ the license talk
19:40 marktraceur    mauvebic: Licensing is an important part of free software development, you'll have to bear with us :)
19:43 mauvebic       i know :-)
19:43 mauvebic       but bringing it up every day, prodding others about their choices rather than leading by example...i dont think it helps :/
19:44 mauvebic       whats the point of talking about licenses every day if you dont write any mods?
19:44 sapier1        @marktraceur As of what I have learned from our discussion you're not interested in "freedom" at all but only in enforcing your own personal license preference. I'm gonna decide what license fits best on my own. If this won't match your obsession to gplv3 it's not my fault.
19:44 marktraceur    mauvebic: That's a good question, but I'm afraid you're asking the wrong person
19:45 marktraceur    sapier1: OK, thanks! I'd at least implore you to relicense freely yourself, but you may not choose to do that either. I wish yo luck.
19:46 sapier1        sorry but i don't understand what you wanna tell me I'm not native english speaker ;-)
19:48 sapier1        I've decided to switch to non modified license already out there for 2.x but I haven't decided which one.
19:48 mauvebic       marktraceur who should i be asking?
19:53 sapier1        I wonder why marktraceur is so interested in mobf ... there ain't lots of ppl out there really using it ... but lots of ppl (at least loud ones) complaining about it beeing to slow
19:56 marktraceur    mauvebic: Someone who doesn't write mods
19:56 mauvebic       i doubt its what you think, there are a dozen mob pods to chose from
19:56 mauvebic       *mob mods
19:56 mauvebic       marktraceur where do you post 'em?
19:56 sapier1        I know that's why I even less understand his interest in mobf
19:56 marktraceur    sapier1: Maybe I am thinking this is the wrong thing--I remember finding some animals mod that said "oi, go use sapier's mod", and I did, and it wasn't free so I left
19:57 sapier1        i don't wana start a discussion about "freedom" again
19:58 marktraceur    sapier1: That's fine--but do you know about other mob mods?
19:58 mauvebic       there are varying degrees of free anyways
19:59 mauvebic       lots of businesses use the term free but you end up spending money
19:59 marktraceur    mauvebic: We said we wouldn't get into it, and I don't intend to
19:59 sapier1        yes I've been looking at them most of them did some things better some things worse none did implement even half of features mobf does support
19:59 mauvebic       mob war instead ok lol
20:00 PilzAdam       thexyz, https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia/pull/1
20:00 moltenbot      PilzAdam's link: Support all full blocks of default mod and delete the unused textures by PilzAdam ? Pull Request #1 ? xyzz/onomatopoeia ? GitHub
20:01 marktraceur    sapier1: Well, then that makes sense why I'd ask about yours :)
20:01 thexyz         PilzAdam: nice, but can you use 4 spaces instead of 3 and don't replace >map = Map(".")
20:01 mauvebic       most mobs aren't slow, its what people do w/ them that makes it slow
20:02 PilzAdam       thexyz, oh, didnt noticed that
20:02 PilzAdam       lemme fix that
20:02 marktraceur    I think we all understand each other now, so let's leave it at that :)
20:03 davidpace      Back
20:03 davidpace      What'd I miss? O_o
20:04 mauvebic       anyone want to make a car?
20:04 marktraceur    sapier1: If you want advice about a license, I'm happy to help. You can take my advice with a grain of salt if necessary, but I pride myself on being able to talk about anything logically
20:04 PilzAdam       thexyz, fixed
20:05 davidpace      mauvebic, you're to late, someone already did look: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=car&btnK=&qscrl=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=V57gUIbIB8jsqwHG0IDYAg&biw=1920&bih=979&sei=XZ7gUOeEKciqqgGB2oAw
20:05 davidpace      :-)
20:05 thexyz         PilzAdam: thanks, merged
20:06 mauvebic       davidpace http://goo.gl/zyojc
20:06 davidpace      What is this?
20:06 davidpace      Oh Lol
20:07 mauvebic       talking bout an MT car
20:07 mauvebic       he's got good roads: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60525#p60525
20:07 moltenbot      mauvebic's link: [Mod] Create modern cities: Asphalt and more [1.0] [streets] (Page 2) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
20:07 mauvebic       just needs a car
20:07 davidpace      Lol ok
20:12 sapier1        @marktraceur if I'm gonna release with any license allowing completely free usage I demand a license not allowing anyone to relicense my code with less rights. Do you know of any license fitting this?
20:13 marktraceur    sapier1: Copyleft is the only way to do it. Your few options so far have been right, as is CCBYSA, but they're not the dominant choices for copyleft....
20:13 Kacey          hello
20:13 VanessaE       hi kacey
20:14 markveidemanis hi
20:14 Kacey          ooh hai v
20:14 markveidemanis Kacey;...
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20:14 Kacey          waht
20:14 Kacey          what*
20:14 mauvebic       whats wrong with ccbysa?
20:14 markveidemanis Oldcoder is hosting my server for a test!
20:14 Kacey          cool
20:14 markveidemanis and its actually fast!
20:14 markveidemanis minetest.org:30010
20:14 Kacey          M13 owes me a server still
20:15 markveidemanis haha
20:15 markveidemanis join the server plz
20:15 mauvebic       new bio http://goo.gl/Xqi6P
20:15 moltenbot      mauvebic's link: Mauvebic - mauvemods
20:15 Kacey          he does he shut down my other server
20:15 sapier1        what are you talking about? gpl doesn't fir better to lua mods
20:15 markveidemanis and the corresponding IRC channel: ##mtmarktwain
20:15 M13            what do I owe you?
20:15 M13            a Server
20:16 Kacey          lol jk i can make one but i need a vps...
20:16 M13            host1free
20:16 markveidemanis i have a server on a VPS...
20:16 M13            My servers run "o.k." on 2 host1free vps's
20:16 markveidemanis a real fast one
20:16 Kacey          link?
20:17 markveidemanis my server speed is sccelent
20:17 markveidemanis eccenent
20:17 markveidemanis you know...