Time Nick Message 00:00 ADFENO Wow. 00:00 Kacey ya 00:00 Kacey might abandon the display part and just leave it the way it was 00:08 * PilzAdam is checking terasology's development state 00:08 PilzAdam they have changed the mouse controls so digging is not leftclick and placing blocks is rightclick 00:09 PilzAdam you can jump 2 blocks high 00:10 PilzAdam and you can really throw items with Q; holding it will throw them further and they have nice collisions 00:11 kaeza good night 00:11 kaeza hello 00:12 Kacey hello kaeza 00:13 Kacey i got the decoder done 00:13 kaeza hey Kacey 00:13 kaeza goos 00:13 kaeza good* 00:13 Kacey ya 00:13 kaeza screenies? 00:13 Kacey now im going to make an 8-bit and possibly a 16-bit 00:14 kaeza yay! more sbi's! 00:14 Kacey lol my thoughts exactly 00:15 Kacey but later because i must go eat dinner 00:15 kaeza hey Jakssoul 00:16 Jakssoul Hey, kaeza. 00:16 Jakssoul I have like, 30 GBA games on that emulator. xD 00:16 Jakssoul It's pretty great. 00:17 Jakssoul Well, 21 games. Still. 00:17 Jakssoul I wish I could get the PCSX2 emulator to work. Can't figure that out though. 00:18 ADFENO Jakssoul: PCSX2 is really hard to get working. 00:18 Jakssoul I figured. Haha, I guess I will just have to use VBA. >_> Better than nothing. 00:19 ADFENO I remember the day when I used Windows 7 three years ago, with a top processor which I don't know the name, and 4 GB of RAM, and it was still too slow. 00:20 Jakssoul Oh holy crap,. 00:20 ADFENO I think Mednafen is way better. 00:20 Jakssoul Yeah, this thing won't do that then. 00:20 Jakssoul Mednafen didn't work when I installed it. 00:20 ADFENO Why not? 00:20 Jakssoul I do not know. 00:21 Jakssoul I'm going to reinstall it later, I suppose. 00:21 ADFENO It emulates GBA games just fine. 00:21 Jakssoul I already have VBA. 00:21 ADFENO :D 00:21 Jakssoul Don't need it if that's all it does. 00:22 Jakssoul I got Warzone, bunches of GBA games, Nethack, blah blah, any other recommendations? 00:22 ADFENO Well... It emulates GB, WSW, PCE, NES, GBC, GBA, NGP, TB-GFX and some others I can't even remember. 00:23 Jakssoul Are there ANY decent offline FPS? I have AssaultCube, and even just the Bot team deathmathches are fun. 00:24 ADFENO Hm... I don't play FPSers too much, I can't help you this time. 00:25 OldCoder NEWS: I have a backup of Europe MT world that is three weeks old. The loss of any work is regrettable but the world itself will continue. And I will try to reach Anunakki so that the latest version can be retrieved. 00:25 VanessaE Jakssoul: what about Open Arena? it's old, but still fun at times. 00:26 OldCoder NEWS: I am behind on MT projects for personal reasons. However, everything is planned to continue. 00:26 VanessaE personal reasons are more important than Minetest. 00:26 VanessaE Take care of yourself first. 00:26 OldCoder VanessaE, thank you. Regardless, I am here for anybody who wishes to chat. 00:27 Jakssoul Or free Linux horror games? (Or even WINE compatible for that matter) 00:27 OldCoder And small changes should resume tonight. 00:27 Jakssoul 'Cause Slender isn't really. :( 00:27 OldCoder Jakssoul, WINE works well for slightly older games 00:27 ADFENO DOSBox for old school games is good too. 00:27 Jakssoul I have DOSBox. 00:28 Jakssoul Sadly, I couldn't figure out Daggerfall, 00:28 Jakssoul (To work on it) 00:28 * marktraceur wonders why this is happening in this channel 00:28 ADFENO Have you successfully used DOSBox at least one time? Or is this your first time? 00:29 Jakssoul I have used it. 00:29 Jakssoul To play... one second. 00:29 Jakssoul ANGBAND. 00:29 Jakssoul xD Somebody recommended that yesterday. 00:29 Jakssoul I can't stand it. 00:29 ADFENO Hm... 00:30 Jakssoul Is DaggerFall the same process? 00:30 ADFENO Basicly, if you have the installation CD/image... 00:31 Jakssoul Bethesda gives the game away for free. 00:31 ADFENO You need to mount it, and also, mount a folder to make it your main virtual hard drive. 00:31 Jakssoul Already compiled. 00:31 Jakssoul Already did that. 00:31 ADFENO What does DOSBox, or the game, says? Any errors? 00:32 Jakssoul Hang on. 00:32 Jakssoul OH CRAP. I remember what it was now. Archive Manager wouldn't extract it. 00:32 Jakssoul Then I uninstalled Archive Manager. Guess what? It's still on my computer. 00:32 Jakssoul Like.. what??? 00:33 ADFENO So the issue isn't related with the game or with DOSBox. 00:33 Jakssoul Right. 00:33 kaeza Jakssoul: have you tried extracting from command line? 00:34 Jakssoul kaeza, I told you I didn't know how. I have to redownload it, so give me a few minutes. 00:34 ADFENO In which format have you downloaded the game. Is it a RAR file? An EXE file? 00:34 kaeza Jakssoul: "unzip " :) 00:34 Jakssoul It was .zip, from Bethesda. 00:35 ADFENO Hm... Then it was corrupted, ZIP files should be extracted with no problems under GNU+Linux operating systems. 00:36 Jakssoul Archive Manager gives me issues all the time. 00:36 kaeza ADFENO: IDK why but I had several archives not opening on Lin. Specially on the OLPC 00:36 kaeza ADFENO: I guess it's either a bug in `unzip' or in `file-roller' 00:37 ADFENO Hm... It could be their versions though. 00:37 Jakssoul I've got a good 30 minute wait for it to redownload. 00:37 Jakssoul ADFENO, I doubt it. 00:37 Jakssoul This is Bethesda we're talking about. 00:37 kaeza ADFENO and I recently DLded a Win version of MT for testing on Wine and had similar problems 00:38 ADFENO Strange, I can extract ZIP files just well under a more outdated distribution than the latest Ubuntu. :D 00:39 Jakssoul I can extract plenty fine, but it randomly picks some not to. 00:39 Jakssoul Anyway, Bethesda just needs to offer MW for free. 00:41 ADFENO Hahaha... Free software (as free bear) will always be the same, everyone likes them, but no one cares on what limitations they have. 00:41 ADFENO *as free beer)* 00:43 Jakssoul *sighs* They're not making me pay for it. 00:43 Jakssoul Do you think I care what limitations come with me? 00:43 Jakssoul it* 00:44 ADFENO This is something I can't answer. You have to discover it by yourself. 00:44 Jakssoul I don't care. 00:44 Jakssoul There's no way they'd release it as in freedom, so I'll be happy with not having to pay. 00:44 Jakssoul Or, would you prefer they keep their limitations AND charge $20? 00:44 VanessaE bbiab, food time. 00:47 ADFENO Well... No, but, the copyright of the game itself is still held by the organization, and as far as I know, one must download it from the organization's website to use it under legal conditions. 00:47 Jakssoul Also, who cares about legal conditions? Haha. 00:48 Jakssoul thepiratebay.se is simply proof to that. 00:49 ADFENO Well, The Pirate Bay has no direct involvement on what the users do with it. 00:49 ruskie open source/free software still rely on the legal stuff 00:49 Jakssoul My point is, ADFENO, we have to make do with what we can. 00:50 Jakssoul I agree with you that it's not the best situation. 00:50 ADFENO :D Agree. 00:50 Jakssoul Free software really is ideal, but some people aren't okay with the idea. For example, 99% of software developers. 00:50 ADFENO :D 00:51 Jakssoul Daggerfall is taking forever.. ughh! 00:54 Jakssoul 32KB per sec. 00:54 Jakssoul Gosh. 00:54 ADFENO If you don't mind. I'd like to present another example: Gobblin.se, it's a site where you can upload images, music and video. If you look for the user Yamirlobo, you can notice his uploads are mainly copyrighted by someone else. Or the Gobblin.se maintainers haven't received reports about it, or they aren't responsible for user uploaded content after all. 00:54 Jakssoul Lost internet. Have to restart download. NOOOO! 00:55 Jakssoul ADFENO, what's your point? 00:57 Jakssoul THE NEW SKYRIM ADDON LETS YOU RIDE DRAGONS? 00:57 Jakssoul I am going to kill my Fiance. 00:57 ADFENO Even if someone says something can be acquired by some specific way, the copyright license for it may not allow this, or can indeed allow downloading, but just from allowed sites. 00:59 ADFENO I know the main subject is software, but for me, this example fits very well. 01:01 Jakssoul I dont see a point. 01:19 VanessaE ah what a satisfying meal every time. cook and drain(2 pkgs ramen + 1 can cooked chicken), add 1/2c sour cream + ramen flavor packets, stir and orgasm. 01:19 NakedFury spicy noodles here. spicier than I expected them 01:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, btw: what do you think of the aux1 to fast fly patch? 01:21 PilzAdam s/of/about 01:21 VanessaE which key is aux1 again? I forget 01:21 PilzAdam E 01:21 PilzAdam its already in upstream 01:22 VanessaE doesn't seem to have any effect for me, but I use "use = climb down" 01:22 VanessaE so I guess that overrides the other 01:22 PilzAdam yea, doesnt have any effect in that 01:23 VanessaE now, if you were to say, swap with Shift when that checkbox is set, I could see that being very useful 01:23 VanessaE shift = go fast, E = descend when that checkbox is set 01:23 PilzAdam well, shif is sneak 01:23 VanessaE else E = fast, shift=descend 01:23 VanessaE er right 01:23 VanessaE not shift...whatever the other key was 01:24 PilzAdam but when flying that might be possible 01:24 VanessaE you get my point :-) 01:24 PilzAdam I dont really care about the use = climb down 01:24 VanessaE wouldn't it make more sense for climb down/descend to have an actual key def like the rest? 01:24 VanessaE instead of that checkbox 01:29 NakedFury different speeds for run and fly 01:29 VanessaE one thing I would like to see is acceleration/deceleration when going to/from fast, while flying 01:30 VanessaE take say 5 blocks to get up to full speed 01:30 VanessaE 2 or 3 to slow to a stop 01:30 VanessaE that way you don't have to leave fast mode to make little tweaks to your position 01:32 PilzAdam with E as fast flying you have the same effect 01:32 VanessaE ah 01:32 VanessaE too bad there's no equivalent when E = descend :-) 01:33 VanessaE that begs the question though: 01:33 PilzAdam it could be shift because shift doesnt do anything when flying 01:33 VanessaE yes. 01:33 VanessaE question though: you can look up/down while flying, by way of the mouse... but unlike look left/right, those don't change your flight pitch. 01:34 VanessaE is there a particular reason it was done that way? 01:34 PilzAdam Terasology has this but its somehow weird 01:34 PilzAdam it isnt handy when building 01:34 VanessaE true 01:34 VanessaE ok, better to leave it the way it is, save for using shift = fast fly 01:52 VanessaE PilzAdam: "What about on vanilla servers (or even in a vanilla single player game)? Someone crafts some mese fragments, not knowing what they are, and they've just wasted their mese because fragments are useless, and cannot be crafted back into crystals.." 01:53 VanessaE what can we do about this in minetest_game? Is there some tool or craft possibility we're not thinking of that would deal with this? 01:54 PilzAdam well, shit happens ;-) 01:54 VanessaE hah 01:54 PilzAdam (I thought about this too) 01:54 VanessaE he makes a good point though. 01:55 PilzAdam why is your post in quotes? 01:55 VanessaE because I was quoting someone :-) 01:55 VanessaE 0gb.us wrote that ^^^ 01:57 NakedFury cant do anything unless you want to start an undocrafting. there is a risk-reward with craft and discovery too. he just found out there is nothing with fragments yet 01:57 VanessaE NakedFury: nothing in minetest_game, yeah. 01:58 VanessaE I thought, very briefly, about using two fragments + three crystals to make a mese pick... 01:58 VanessaE no other tool in MT does that afaik and not in MC either 01:58 VanessaE but I don't know if that makes any sense. 01:59 PilzAdam VanessaE, its like: "Lets disable falling damage because new players may fall down" 01:59 VanessaE yup I know. 02:02 VanessaE greetz, bas080 02:03 kaeza back 02:03 kaeza hi V 02:03 kaeza hi bas080 02:03 VanessaE hey kaeza 02:03 NakedFury long time since last saw bas 02:04 kaeza VanessaE: thanks for the //dig tip, I fixed lots of lighting problems in my local server ^_^ 02:04 VanessaE noprob 02:05 bas080 Hey VanessaE, kaeza 02:05 PilzAdam got to sleep now; bye 02:05 VanessaE night 02:11 Kacey back 02:11 VanessaE hi 02:11 Kacey im thinking about making an 8-bit decoder 02:12 VanessaE that'll be fun :-) 02:12 VanessaE 8 bits -> 2 hex digits? 02:12 Kacey idk i will make it larger as i need 02:13 Kacey 4 4-bits put together 02:17 Kacey anyone want to help? 02:17 Kacey 72.175.1.20 port 30000 if you do 02:19 Kacey :'( i cant change pages on my server 02:31 Kacey im thinking i will make a 4-bit and annex onto it 02:31 Kacey keaza: are you online? 02:37 Kacey there will be 256 outputs (that is including 0) 02:38 jeffrash anyone know how to make stainless steel Ingets? 02:38 Kacey nope 02:38 VanessaE jeffrash: Technic "Alloy Furnace", regular Steel Ingot + Chromium Ingot 02:38 VanessaE smelt the two together in that type of furnace to get stainless steel. 02:39 jeffrash ok, thanks 02:39 jeffrash Now I need clay to make the Alloy Furnace. :) 02:45 Kacey hmm..... how about just start with a 4-bit? 02:47 kaeza Kacey: hey 02:47 Kacey join my server keaza 02:47 kaeza Kacey: use tab completion, it's easier :) 02:47 Kacey dont have it lol 02:47 kaeza kaeza* 02:48 VanessaE Kacey: he's got too much to build on my server yet :-) 02:48 kaeza oh yeah 02:48 Kacey 72.175.1.20 port 30000 02:50 kaeza I was so "busy" lately with a few things that I forgot what it was to *actually* play Minetest :P 02:51 Kacey lol 02:53 * iqualfragile1 got to go to sleep now, even if im in the same timezone as pilzadam… 02:55 Muadtralk what timezone is that? 02:55 Muadtralk out of curiousity 02:57 iqualfragile1 germany 02:57 iqualfragile1 sapier and sfan5 are from here too 02:57 Muadtralk I said timezone not country 02:57 Muadtralk theres a different 02:57 iqualfragile1 !date 02:57 moltenbot Sa 29. Dez 03:57:46 CET 2012 02:57 iqualfragile1 CET 02:57 Muadtralk difference* 02:57 Muadtralk thank you 03:00 kaeza Kacey: is your server still up? 03:00 Muadtralk but none of the people you mentioned are on right now..... so would that mean they are sleeping? 03:00 Muadtralk so how is this a even if situation? 03:01 Kacey kaeza: yes 03:01 VanessaE Muadtralk: this is the internet - they don't sleep, they enter Z (zombie) state for a while :-) 03:02 kaeza hmm, i'm trying to connect but it gets stuck in 'Connecting to server...' 03:02 Kacey hm? 03:02 kaeza VanessaE: in this case, 'V' (or Vombie) state :P 03:02 Kacey perhaps i dont have the port forwarded 03:02 VanessaE haha 03:03 kaeza Kacey: 72.175.1.20 port 30000 is this right? 03:03 Kacey yes 03:06 kaeza still no response :( 03:08 kaeza nope Kacey, no response :/ 03:08 Kacey aaw :( 03:08 Kacey maybe when i get back home you can join and see the different decoders 03:10 kaeza k 03:10 iqualfragile1 Muadtralk: yes, they are sleeping, its 03:10 iqualfragile1 !date 03:10 iqualfragile1 here, people should be sleeping now 03:10 moltenbot Sa 29. Dez 04:10:54 CET 2012 03:12 Kacey !date 03:12 moltenbot Sa 29. Dez 04:12:54 CET 2012 03:13 Kacey llol it is *:!% here 03:13 Kacey 8:15* 03:24 Kacey bbl 03:58 jeffrash I just crafted a chain saw. How do you us it? 03:58 jeffrash It doesn't seem to work 04:01 OldCoder Periodic announcement: If anybody knows how to reach Anunakkit ask him to show up. I need to reboot Europe MT VPS. 04:01 OldCoder * Anunakki 04:02 OldCoder Kacey, Hi 04:02 Kacey back 04:02 Kacey hello 04:02 kaeza hi OldCoder 04:02 OldCoder kaeza, I would be happy to try IRC mod again 04:02 kaeza hi Kacey 04:02 Kacey mmmmmmmmmm popcorn 04:02 OldCoder kaeza, indicate when next test is ready 04:02 kaeza OldCoder: whenever you want, do a fresh git clone 04:02 Kacey keaza what is link for new irc mod? 04:02 kaeza s/clone/pull/ 04:02 OldCoder Have you made a change? 04:03 kaeza OldCoder: some tidbits here and there 04:03 OldCoder Hmm 04:03 OldCoder All right 04:03 Kacey kaeza what is link for irc mod? 04:03 kaeza OldCoder: and removed the duplicate mt_irc.connect_ok 04:03 OldCoder Tested elsewhere? 04:04 kaeza OldCoder: #minetest-irc-testing 04:04 OldCoder k 04:04 OldCoder Will test 04:04 kaeza Kacey: a sec plz 04:04 Kacey k 04:05 Kacey i got it nvm 04:09 mauvebic size[16,10.5]item_image[1,1;1,1;hdb:41] --?--> 23:07:30: ERROR[main]: item name=hdb:41, pos=(55,103), geom=(40,40) 04:10 mauvebic should there be quotes? 04:14 Kaceygame *** Kacey joined the game 04:14 Kaceygame hello 04:17 kaeza mauvebic: does MT support fractional metrics for the GUI? 04:17 kaeza I think not 04:18 kaeza s/think/thought/ 04:18 Kaceygame brb guys 04:18 Kacey i updated 04:19 Kacey btw* 04:19 Muadtralk one can only know if they try yes? 04:21 Kaceygame back 04:21 mauvebic not sure :/ trying to figure out why item_image dont work 04:23 OldCoder jojoa1997, Hi 04:24 jojoa1997 hi 04:24 Muadtralk question to the crowd, if there were to be a recipe for wool that depended on nothing but the default what do you think would be the logical choice? 04:25 Kaceygame mese lots of mese lol 04:25 Muadtralk anyone else? 04:25 jojoa1997 leaves in a 4*4 square 04:25 davidpace Hmmm 04:26 davidpace I dunno 04:26 jojoa1997 there is no other use for leaves in the default besides saplings 04:26 khonkhortisan import sheep cut wool export shep 04:26 davidpace Why not just leave it as it is? Sand with coal, Maybe I'm just an idiot but thats how I think it is 04:27 Muadtralk i was thinking along the lines of papyrus, sticks, papyrus// then stick, dry shrub, stick and on the bottom papyrus, sticks, papyrus 04:27 Muadtralk because that actually isnt a crafting recipe for wool in the default davidpace 04:27 Muadtralk that only works in jordaches wool mod 04:27 davidpace Oh okay :D, Thats what it is on redcrabs server 04:27 davidpace But why not make that the default? 04:28 Muadtralk idk why 04:28 Muadtralk it doesn't make much sense which is why i was asking for alternatives 04:29 davidpace Ok 04:29 jojoa1997 leaf,leaf 04:29 jojoa1997 leaf,leaf,stick 04:30 jojoa1997 leaf,leaf 04:30 jojoa1997 the stick represents a weaver thing kindof 04:30 Muadtralk nice idea 04:31 jojoa1997 and for different colors the recipe should be 04:31 jojoa1997 red wool = wool, lava 04:31 Muadtralk the color recipes are actually functional for wool 04:31 jojoa1997 blue = wool, water 04:31 Muadtralk they depend on the default dyes 04:31 jojoa1997 what are the recipes for different colors then 04:32 jojoa1997 i dont see it in the code 04:32 Muadtralk thats where theres also a snag 04:32 jojoa1997 so there is no recipe 04:32 Muadtralk but for the moment I am trying to get wool sorted out 04:33 Muadtralk ive got recipes for the dyes 04:33 Muadtralk I just need to make a pull request to minetest_game 04:33 Muadtralk XD 04:34 jojoa1997 MAKE IT NOW I WANT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL 04:35 kaeza Muadtralk: that's an interesting question 04:35 kaeza there's no "realistic" way to produce wool 04:35 kaeza using only vanilla game 04:36 Muadtralk think outside of the box 04:36 Muadtralk dont think of it as wool 04:36 Muadtralk think of it as a substance 04:37 Muadtralk like thatch or rattan 04:37 Muadtralk or cotton 04:37 Muadtralk not wool in the strict sense 04:37 kaeza hmm... I guess the leaves is the closer you could get to a realistic recipe 04:38 jojoa1997 WHAT about 04:38 kaeza is rubber tree in default? 04:38 jojoa1997 leaf, papyrus 04:38 Muadtralk yeah my papyrus suggestion was overkill and no rubber trees in default 04:38 jojoa1997 papyrus, leaf 04:38 Muadtralk hmmmm 04:38 Muadtralk that may work 04:39 Muadtralk but maybe it would be good to utilize the full 3x3 square so its just a bit harder to make wool 04:39 kaeza I was thinking about that also 04:39 jojoa1997 leaf,papyrus,leaf 04:40 jojoa1997 papyrus,stick,papyrus 04:40 jojoa1997 leaf,papyrus,leaf 04:40 Muadtralk i kinda like that one 04:40 kaeza seems good to me 04:40 Muadtralk anyone have a better suggestion? 04:42 mauvebic item_image_button works but item_image doesn't seem to 04:43 jojoa1997 seem to what 04:44 mauvebic item_image keeps giving nondescript error 04:46 mauvebic ERROR[main]: item name=hdb:41, pos=(305,195), geom=(40,40) ie PCLOADLETTER lol 04:50 RealBadAngel hi 04:51 Muadtralk hello 04:51 jojoa1997 cya family movie night with kung fu panda 2 04:52 RealBadAngel i got an idea, let some1 make grow textures for wheat (8 stages) in return PilzAdam will merge farming mod into minetest_game 04:52 RealBadAngel together with cotton 04:52 RealBadAngel and wool problem will be solved 04:52 Muadtralk hmmmm 04:52 Muadtralk true 04:53 RealBadAngel i tried to make wheat textures but i do suck at 16px 04:53 Muadtralk I have some old farming textures for all the old farming mods 04:53 Muadtralk but i think it needs something new and fresh 04:53 Muadtralk :P 04:53 RealBadAngel farming is needed anyway 04:54 RealBadAngel Muadtralk, btw i like textures you made, good job 04:55 RealBadAngel im workin now on new technic update 04:55 RealBadAngel since im done with the trees 04:56 Muadtralk cool 04:57 kaeza hey RealBadAngel 05:04 Muadtralk https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/89 05:04 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Crafting Recipes for dye by sdzen ? Pull Request #89 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 05:09 kaeza Muadtralk: +1 05:13 RealBadAngel Cacti give 8 blue dye ? 05:13 Muadtralk VanessaE's idea not mine 05:13 RealBadAngel since when cacti are blue? :) 05:14 Muadtralk I wanted to make a new ore for it 05:18 kaeza Muadtralk: no more ores in default plz 05:18 Muadtralk why not? 05:18 Muadtralk we just got out of the mese fiasco 05:18 Muadtralk why notjump into a new one? 05:18 kaeza well, after all this mese vs crystal discusssion 05:18 kaeza yeah 05:19 kaeza fiasco? 05:20 Muadtralk yes fiasco 05:20 Muadtralk I cant try to use colourful words? 05:21 Muadtralk okay so I am sending a request for the wool crafting recipe with jojoas recipe unless someone comes up with a better way 05:21 Muadtralk that doesnt envolve waiting for farming 05:21 Muadtralk oh and there is a bug in the default stairs that just crashed my server 05:22 Muadtralk 20:57:37: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...re/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/stairs/init.lua:158: attempt to index local 'ret' (a nil value) 05:37 Muadtralk https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/90 05:37 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Crafting Recipe for Wool and Addition of Plain Wool by sdzen ? Pull Request #90 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 05:45 VanessaE can someone explain to me what moron thought it was a good idea to make vi/vim the default console text editor in some Linux distros? that's about as stupid as it gets 05:46 ecube How can you have a default console text editor, and why is vi/vim bad? 05:46 VanessaE vi/vim is bad for n00bs because it's command-driven instead of editor-driven, and the default is usually set by the EDITOR environment variable. 05:46 ecube I never use the EDITOR environment variable, what uses it? 05:46 VanessaE imho, everyone should default to nano unless otherwise instructed 05:47 VanessaE a number of different things, git comes to mind 05:47 VanessaE (it's what you edit your commit msg in) 05:47 ecube ah 05:47 VanessaE I forget what all uses it 05:47 ecube are you okay with vi/vim? 05:48 VanessaE personally, no. I hate it. 05:49 VanessaE as for emacs, if it had a decent text editor I might consider it ;-) 05:49 ecube emacs is command based 05:49 VanessaE seriously though? vi always felt to me like edlin, which I just never got the hang of. 05:52 ecube Unfortunately, it has spoiled me, so most of the time i'm too lazy to move my hand away from the keyboard 05:52 ecube or sometimes even the homerow 05:52 kaeza hehehe seems like nobody likes vi 05:52 ecube I like it 05:52 VanessaE nano and similar work best for me. 05:52 ecube i hate the arrow keys 05:53 VanessaE or gedit if I need something with a little more capability 05:54 ecube I never seem to have gotten the hang of nano, it takes me about 10 seconds to remember how to save and exit and actually do so, which is 9.9 seconds more than i'm used to 05:54 VanessaE heh 05:54 VanessaE ctrl-X Y enter 05:55 VanessaE I race through that sequence so fast I often don't notice whether it's actually prompting me to overwrite or not :-) 05:56 ecube ctrl-X makes me nauseous 05:56 ecube literally 05:56 VanessaE hah 05:56 ecube my fat fingers were never designed to reach that way 05:56 VanessaE lol 05:57 kaeza ecube: then use readline and shell redirection lol 05:57 ecube i don't use nano 05:57 Muadtralk goodbye world! 05:57 VanessaE ecube: at least I didn't suggest PICO :-) 05:57 VanessaE night Muadtralk 05:57 ecube night Muadtralk 05:57 Muadtralk um actually its morning now 05:57 kizeren Ahh pico/pine was awesome in its day 05:57 ecube :x 05:58 VanessaE I cut my teeth on those, kizeren :-) 05:58 Muadtralk I usually am up about 2 hours from now so yeah....... 05:58 VanessaE ok, good morning then :-) 05:58 * ecube shudders 05:59 jojoa1997 hello 05:59 VanessaE hi jojo 05:59 ecube hai 05:59 jojoa1997 what was the decision on the wool recipe 06:00 VanessaE jojo: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/90 06:00 jojoa1997 yay that is my recipe 06:01 ecube :) 06:02 kaeza jojoa1997: congrats ;) 06:03 jojoa1997 can someone make a topic like this but for the wool recipe http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4134 06:03 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Proposal: Change the behavior of Mese [Completed] (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 06:03 jojoa1997 kaeza: thanks 06:03 jojoa1997 anyone on vanessae's server 06:03 VanessaE jojoa1997: so go ahead and make a topic :-) 06:03 jojoa1997 how do i make strawberry polls 06:04 kaeza strawberry polls? 06:04 VanessaE you mean straw polls :-) 06:04 kaeza there are only banana ones 06:04 VanessaE http://strawpoll.me/ 06:04 jojoa1997 sorry straw poll 06:04 jojoa1997 i thought straw said strawberry 06:05 kaeza lol 06:05 VanessaE nope, it refers to straw, as in the grassy stuff animals sleep in, and basically means "informal" 06:05 VanessaE probably derived from the practice of drawing straws 06:06 VanessaE whoever gets the shortest (or longest) is the winner/loser of the draw 06:09 Kacey woah i go afk for a while and my computer shut down minetest 06:09 VanessaE minetest is crashy lately 06:09 VanessaE I've had it do that a couple of times 06:09 Kacey lol it was working (mostly) fine for me 06:10 Kacey been having a screen bug with it 06:10 VanessaE what bug? 06:10 Kacey it glitches out 06:10 VanessaE define "glitches out" 06:11 Kacey the screen jumps around for a second 06:11 jojoa1997 any other ideas from earlier to fill in space for the other options 06:11 VanessaE jojoa1997: dunno, I wasn't paying attention most of the time :-) 06:11 jojoa1997 could you scroll up 06:11 Kacey brb shower 06:12 VanessaE I could but I'm too tired :-) 06:16 jojoa1997 anyone else have a recipe they want to add 06:24 jojoa1997 guys vote please http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60160#p60160 06:24 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Poll: Default Wool Recipe (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 06:27 jojoa1997 VanessaE: Is your server up? 06:27 VanessaE should be 06:35 jojoa1997 it works 06:35 Kacey back 06:36 VanessaE wb 06:36 VanessaE stink less now? ;-) 06:36 Kacey lol i dont *smells armpit* nvm lol 06:37 VanessaE lol 06:37 Kacey dont know how many times that has happened in bed 06:43 jojoa1997 im back 06:44 kaeza wb jojoa1997 06:55 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kmeQj6iW5k 06:55 moltenbot Kacey's link: Minetest Mod: Jeija's Mesecons [HD/HQ] - YouTube 06:56 VanessaE Kacey: ollllld video. 06:57 Kacey ya but what happened to the switch textures? 06:58 VanessaE the entire set of mesecons got new textures months ago. 07:00 ecube so it now isn't just a big yellow thing that looks like it had ME\SE hand-written on it? 07:01 VanessaE ecube: what, the mese block? it now looks like a somewhat-natural crystallish block with "MESE" engraved into it neatly. 07:01 ecube :o 07:02 VanessaE hah, speaking of mesecons, look who shows up :S 07:02 VanessaE :D 07:02 ecube lol 07:02 VanessaE Jeija: as always, your timing is impeccable. 07:02 ecube we were talking about mesecons? 07:03 VanessaE ecube: er, yes? 07:03 ecube oh 07:03 Kacey lol perfect timing 07:03 ecube I saw mesecons and immediately thought mese 07:04 Jeija reading the log... 07:05 Jeija ah btw we are working on a new video, it will be shorter and more advertising, not showing the whole mod (which is nearly impossible without boring the viewer) 07:06 Kacey Jeija, were can i get the new api? 07:06 Jeija It's already in the master branch, documentation is here: http://www.mesecons.net/developers.php 07:06 moltenbot Jeija's link: Mesecons 07:07 Kacey ok and where can i get the old switch texture (i kinda like it) 07:09 Jeija some random old version of mesecons, Kacey, e.g. here: http://ubuntuone.com/48j8fRRHjFThPLH2iEfHiZ 07:09 Kacey meh ill make my own on second though 07:10 Kacey thought* 07:18 Kacey Jeija: you should see my 4-bit decoder to 7 segment display 07:18 Kacey made with microcontrollers 07:20 VanessaE off to bed now. Night all. 07:20 ecube night 07:23 Kacey night V 07:25 Kacey Jeija: what is the 2x2 microcontroller thingy? 07:27 Kacey whaere do i download plugs and sockets? 07:35 Jeija Why would you want plugs and sockets? The will break in two days when the API overhaul comes anyway. 07:35 Jeija http://mesecons.net/extensions.php That's where you can download some extensions 07:35 moltenbot Jeija's link: Mesecons 07:40 Kacey well i am going to make a large machine with 2x2 microcontrollers and plugs and sockets 07:44 Kacey it cannot load and run init.lua 07:52 Jeija why would you want plugs and sockets? why don't you just use gates? they can do the same, are smaller and don't crash the server 07:52 ecube what do plugs and sockets do? 07:52 Jeija some old inverters 07:52 Jeija just like the new NOT-Gate, but 3 blocks instead of 1 07:57 Kacey lol it didnt work anyway 07:57 Kacey and neither did 2x2 microcontrollers 07:59 Kacey made a four direction junction 08:02 Jeija http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_LefOtt3o0 << My ingame Server List for Minetest 08:02 moltenbot Jeija's link: Minetest: Server List - YouTube 09:08 OldCoder kaeza, Hi 09:08 OldCoder kaeza, Same test results as before 09:08 kaeza ? 09:08 OldCoder kaeza, IRC bot works fine 09:08 kaeza but? 09:08 OldCoder kaeza, But player does not join channel at all 09:08 OldCoder Says you are not connected 09:08 OldCoder Please use /join 09:09 OldCoder So the code that sets connect_ok or connected_ok 09:09 OldCoder is failing 09:09 kaeza OldCoder: can you paste line 50of config.lua herE? 09:09 OldCoder Yes 09:09 OldCoder mt_irc.auto_connect = true; 09:10 OldCoder I assure you I remembered to set it 09:10 kaeza I see 09:11 kaeza also set auto_join? 09:11 OldCoder Yep 09:11 OldCoder And the bot works 09:11 kaeza found the error 09:11 OldCoder Oh? 09:11 kaeza the bot only sets the "joined" flag at connect time 09:12 OldCoder All right 09:12 kaeza gonna fix it 09:12 OldCoder k 09:15 kaeza OldCoder: pushed. could you do a pull and test again? 09:15 OldCoder Ready? 09:15 kaeza yeah 09:15 OldCoder k 09:20 OldCoder kaeza, Congratulations 09:21 OldCoder We have botoff 09:21 kaeza OldCoder: working? 09:21 OldCoder So to speak 09:21 OldCoder Yes 09:21 OldCoder My worlds 09:21 kaeza good! 09:21 OldCoder will all move into channels now 09:21 kaeza and thanks :P 09:21 * OldCoder high fives 09:21 OldCoder Sure 09:21 * kaeza high fives OldCoder 09:21 OldCoder There shall be chat 09:22 celeron55 http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/15lb3i/the_big_list_of_block_engines/ 09:22 moltenbot celeron55's link: The **BIG** list of block engines! : gamedev 09:22 kaeza hi celeron55 09:22 kaeza good 09:30 markveidemanis Hello 09:30 kaeza hey markveidemanis 09:30 OldCoder marktraceur, hi 09:30 OldCoder oops 09:30 OldCoder markveidemanis, hi 09:31 markveidemanis [/NOTIFICATION] SERVER IS UP [NOTIFICATION/] 09:31 kaeza ? 09:31 kaeza oh 09:31 markveidemanis OldCoder: hi 09:31 kaeza markveidemanis: can I test? 09:32 markveidemanis Surr 09:32 markveidemanis Sure 09:32 kaeza IP? 09:32 markveidemanis just a sec 09:32 markveidemanis 86.134.112.141:30000 09:32 kaeza k 09:33 kaeza entering 09:33 markveidemanis Everyone On My Server.>.> 09:33 markveidemanis stress test 09:34 OldCoder kaeza, Your turn to do a quick test with me 09:34 kaeza OldCoder: k 09:34 kaeza sure 09:34 OldCoder kaeza, Please join minetest.org port 30007 09:34 OldCoder as any nick 09:35 kaeza ok 09:35 kaeza markveidemanis: I'll test later ok? 09:35 markveidemanis k 09:35 Infinity__ hi 09:35 Infinity__ its me Ragnar 09:35 markveidemanis my server is up everyone! everyone on 09:35 RagnarLaud :d 09:36 RagnarLaud hi mark! 09:36 kaeza OldCoder: connecting... 09:36 OldCoder kaeza, when there 09:37 OldCoder Do you know how to change avatar in new mod? 09:37 kaeza don't know, sorry 09:37 RagnarLaud hi oldcoder 09:37 RagnarLaud i have ubuntu! 09:37 kaeza hi RagnarLaud 09:37 RagnarLaud hi kaeza 09:37 RagnarLaud sup yall 09:37 kaeza RagnarLaud: congrats 09:37 OldCoder kaeza, tell me when in 09:37 kaeza OldCoder: k 09:38 sfan5 !server 09:38 Minetest-tan ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 09:38 RagnarLaud thanks 09:38 sfan5 wut? 09:38 kaeza hi sfan5 09:38 kaeza problems? 09:38 sfan5 ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 09:38 sfan5 .... 09:39 sfan5 !server 09:39 Minetest-tan ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 09:39 OldCoder kaeza, still connecting? 09:39 kaeza OldCoder: 39% now 09:39 OldCoder sfan5, It clearly has a syntax error 09:39 sfan5 yeah 09:40 RagnarLaud i feel like i am walking blind... :) 09:40 OldCoder RagnarLaud, hmm? 09:41 RagnarLaud its a song 09:41 RagnarLaud remixed by nilow 09:41 OldCoder ah 09:41 OldCoder kaeza, percent? 09:41 OldCoder Calinou, hi 09:41 kaeza OldCoder: 82% 09:41 kaeza hi Calinou 09:42 Calinou hi 09:42 OldCoder testuser you timed out; reloading? 09:43 kaeza yeah 09:43 kaeza back on 09:43 OldCoder kaeza, percent? 09:44 kaeza OldCoder: last reading at last attempt 82%, now 0% 09:44 kaeza OldCoder: do you have any big media files? 09:44 OldCoder I regret I cannot stay awake long. Will anybody else attempt to join 30007 ? 09:45 OldCoder kaeza, I thought you knew 09:45 OldCoder We have ambience but we also have a fix for the speed load problem 09:45 OldCoder kaeza, what is your OS? 09:45 kaeza Ubuntu 12.04 09:45 OldCoder kaeza, Do you have a Curl-enabled MT client? 09:45 kaeza mineteest built two days ago 09:45 OldCoder kaeza, Do you have a Curl-enabled MT client? 09:45 kaeza I don't think so 09:45 Calinou it is disabled by default 09:45 OldCoder All right 09:45 OldCoder Too bad!! 09:46 OldCoder Will somebody else go to 30007? 09:46 OldCoder I need to sleep 09:46 OldCoder But I promised a change 09:46 OldCoder kaeza, What is the percent? 09:46 kaeza OldCoder: I'll stay to see if it connects 09:46 kaeza 0% 09:46 OldCoder But I need to do the test 09:46 kaeza 11% 09:46 OldCoder Hmm 09:46 kaeza 50& 09:47 kaeza %* 09:47 OldCoder k 09:48 OldCoder kaeza, What is the percent? 09:50 OldCoder Is anybody able to visit world 30007? 09:50 RagnarLaud oc! 09:50 RagnarLaud i need some help please 09:51 OldCoder RagnarLaud, I need help first 09:51 OldCoder Go to world 30007 09:51 OldCoder kaeza, What is the percent? 09:51 OldCoder Is anybody able to visit world 30007? 09:52 OldCoder RagnarLaud, I can stay awake perhaps 3 minutes 09:52 OldCoder or 5 09:52 RagnarLaud what? 09:52 OldCoder If you need help go to 30007 now 09:52 RagnarLaud oh nvm 09:52 OldCoder You won't go? 09:52 RagnarLaud nope... 09:52 OldCoder All right 09:52 RagnarLaud i needed help with lua 09:52 OldCoder and I need a simple test 09:52 OldCoder For a change I promised somebody 09:52 kaeza back 09:52 RagnarLaud kaeza 09:52 RagnarLaud have you ever made an ore? 09:53 OldCoder kaeza, it looks like you cannot get in 09:53 OldCoder and nobody else will go 09:53 kaeza OldCoder: I got a core dump 09:53 kaeza trying again 09:53 OldCoder Regrettable 09:53 RagnarLaud kaeza 09:53 OldCoder Use my builds :-) 09:53 RagnarLaud kaeza! 09:53 OldCoder RagnarLaud, He is going to help me 09:53 RagnarLaud have you ever made an ore 09:53 RagnarLaud oh ok 09:53 RagnarLaud :( 09:54 kaeza RagnarLaud: ? 09:54 OldCoder RagnarLaud, If you are able to go to 30007 09:54 kaeza OldCoder: apparently dumped core at 100% 09:54 OldCoder I C 09:54 OldCoder What is the percent now? 09:54 RagnarLaud i need to know how to make an ore that generates, but not much, i want it to be VERY rare 09:54 OldCoder RagnarLaud Go to 30007 09:55 kaeza OldCoder: at black screen 09:55 OldCoder You will save him time 09:55 OldCoder and me 09:55 RagnarLaud HOW?! 09:55 OldCoder What do you mean how? 09:55 RagnarLaud im not in game 09:55 OldCoder Do you not play the game? 09:55 kaeza OldCoder: I'm in 09:55 RagnarLaud -.-not atm 09:55 OldCoder kaeza, Go to inventory 09:55 kaeza yes 09:55 OldCoder kaeza, on menus 09:55 OldCoder You will see Skins 09:56 OldCoder Select the last 2D skin 09:56 OldCoder the last one 09:56 OldCoder #25 09:56 kaeza that one? 09:56 OldCoder Yes 09:56 OldCoder wait 09:56 OldCoder Move a little 09:56 OldCoder heh 09:56 OldCoder Stop 09:57 OldCoder That is what I needed 09:57 OldCoder Thank you 09:57 OldCoder I proposed that skin to somebody 09:57 OldCoder Back needs some work 09:57 kaeza OldCoder: anytime ;) 09:57 OldCoder But funny 09:57 * OldCoder will sleep now 09:57 OldCoder Zzz 09:57 kaeza btw I like that oerkki skin 09:57 OldCoder Oh? O.K. 09:58 kaeza OldCoder: your skin 09:58 OldCoder Yes 09:58 kaeza good night OC 09:58 OldCoder Somebody tell Dogzilla if he shows up that his sister can use the dog now 09:59 OldCoder I will work on the back later 09:59 kaeza k 10:10 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x-changelog.txt -- updated changelog 10:29 kaeza hey john_minetest 10:30 kaeza not lately 10:34 kaeza yeah 10:34 kaeza it's 08:30 here 10:40 Jordach hello all 10:41 RagnarLaud i need some help 10:42 RagnarLaud yo! 10:42 RagnarLaud kaeza 10:42 kaeza RagnarLaud: ? 10:43 RagnarLaud how do i compile minetest? 10:43 RagnarLaud do you know? 10:43 RagnarLaud my mashine is...wait 10:43 RagnarLaud i686 10:43 kaeza RagnarLaud: gimme a sec 10:43 RagnarLaud i typed in uname -m 10:43 RagnarLaud ok 10:44 kaeza RagnarLaud: take a look at this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837 10:44 moltenbot kaeza's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 10:44 Zeg9 Hi ! 10:44 kaeza hey Zeg9 10:44 RagnarLaud hey zeg 10:44 RagnarLaud im using ubuntu 10:44 RagnarLaud yay :') 10:44 Zeg9 Nice. 10:50 Zeg9 Brb. Need a restart 10:51 RagnarLaud hi 10:51 Zeg9 Hi again. 10:53 Zeg9 Hi! 10:53 RagnarLaud hi john_minetest 10:53 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Ich hasse minecraft (Page 2) - Discussion in other languages - Minetest Forums 10:54 Zeg9 Is there any good translator not by google? 10:54 RagnarLaud me! 10:54 RagnarLaud i am! 10:54 RagnarLaud i can translate english-estonian 10:55 RagnarLaud :D 10:55 RagnarLaud 2% LEFT 10:55 RagnarLaud 1%!!! 10:55 kaeza yo solo hablo español. 10:55 kaeza no comprende 10:55 RagnarLaud hola kaeza 10:56 kaeza cómo estás RagnarLaud? 10:56 Zeg9 LOL Google translate PilzAdam's signature 10:56 Zeg9 Do not call me mushroom, mushroom Call me Adam or Adam. 10:56 kaeza Zeg9: lol 10:56 kaeza fail 10:56 kaeza lolwut 10:56 Jordach so risenpilz means giant mushrooms 10:57 Jordach cool 10:58 RagnarLaud im gonna join yo gangstars! 10:58 RagnarLaud soon 10:58 RagnarLaud well bye for now 10:58 kaeza bye 10:58 kaeza ... 10:59 Zeg9 john_minetest just said "ie" didn't I dream 10:59 kaeza john_minetest: O_o 10:59 Zeg9 We should make a #minetest-offtopic 10:59 Jordach scuse me john_minetest i forgot i before e but never before c 10:59 kaeza john_minetest: what is that meant to mean? 11:01 kaeza john_minetest: ues 11:01 kaeza yes* 11:01 kaeza oh 11:01 Zeg9 song => doesn't mean anything 11:01 kaeza I don't understand the "cresse la palma" thing 11:01 kaeza oh 11:01 kaeza wrong 11:02 kaeza "Yo soy un hombre honesto de donde crecen las palmeras" 11:02 kaeza (palmeras o palmas) 11:03 kaeza yeah, that's more like it 11:03 kaeza my native spanish sucks anyway 11:03 Calinou then install libspanish from a package 11:03 Calinou so that it won't be native 11:04 Calinou or run it with wine 11:04 kaeza I've got no space left after installing libbroken english 11:06 kaeza advantages* 11:06 kaeza :D 11:07 kaeza you need to update your libquitegoodenglish 11:07 Calinou 2TB HDD here, I bet I can't even install libgoogledatabase :| 11:08 Calinou libquitegoodenglish is made by FSF and is GPL'd, it sucks 11:08 Calinou I'm using libbritishenglish which is BSD 11:08 * Calinou installs it from ubuntu software centre 11:08 Jordach Calinou, high five 11:10 Jordach :P 11:10 kaeza nah, somebody from the libenglish will leak info and somebody will make libopenenglish 11:11 Calinou lol 11:12 kaeza lol 11:13 Jordach which a competitior libamericanenglish turns up...like abiword 11:13 Calinou glitchiword 11:13 kaeza abugword 11:15 kaeza then they will make the words the new standard 11:15 kaeza and everyone will have to follow it 11:17 Calinou lol 11:18 Zeg9 New words: "PC" means "Windows computer" 11:18 Zeg9 I still don't understand why pc means that. PC is personnal computer so you're free to install what you want on it... 11:18 kaeza That's why I bought a PC with no OS in it ;) 11:19 kaeza and installed linux myself 11:19 Zeg9 Yeah. 11:19 Zeg9 But it's hard to find laptops with no os... 11:19 Zeg9 (I use a desktop computer) lol 11:19 Calinou dekstops ftw 11:19 kaeza +1 11:19 Calinou 25% faster for same price, since the GPU is not slowed down 11:19 Calinou I can make a gaming machine for about 800 euros, if I choose an AMD CPU+GPU 11:20 kaeza and easier to upgrade 11:20 Calinou I'll probably do that next time I build a computer to troll VanessaE and Taoki[laptop] :D 11:20 Calinou never built a computer, but I guess it isn't too hard. and today's premade computers are too expensive 11:20 RealBadAngel laptops are just handy gadgets, not real computers 11:20 Taoki[laptop] Why troll us :P 11:20 Zeg9 I always built computers. 11:20 Taoki[laptop] Don't troll me bro 11:21 kaeza last time I built a comp wat a shitty Pentium MMX 11:21 Calinou Taoki[laptop]: catalyst ftw :D 11:21 kaeza was* 11:21 Zeg9 Surface are unhandy gadgets, with a bad interface and OS 11:21 Taoki[laptop] Calinou: Catalyst Control Center? 11:21 Calinou no, the driver itself 11:21 RealBadAngel and a guy who invented touchpad should be hang btw 11:21 Calinou lol 11:21 Zeg9 +1 11:22 Calinou external mouses are just so much better... 11:22 kaeza agreed 11:22 klunk years ago there was sort of joystick in center of some laptop keyboards ... cool stuff 11:22 * Calinou has a laser mouse with "soft" and "hard" wheel settings 11:22 Calinou rather expensive, but worth it 11:22 Calinou no red light below mouse :3 11:25 Zeg9 klunk, this is quite unusable though... I do have tested... 11:25 Calinou trackpads are meh 11:25 kaeza mine cost 8k (~350 US$) with shitty taiwanese components. The only component worth it is the processor 11:25 Calinou trackball* 11:25 Calinou what is your CPU? 11:25 Calinou the pentium one? 11:26 kaeza Intl E5700 Dual-Core @ 3.1 GHz 11:26 kaeza Inel* 11:26 kaeza aaarg 11:26 kaeza Intel* 11:27 klunk Zeg9: meh... That's true :-))) 11:31 Jordach i might build my next tower 11:31 klunk gaming oriented ? 11:32 klunk I mean build to run games ? 11:33 Zeg9 TTY oriented ? 11:33 Zeg9 Framebuffer gaming oriented? 11:34 klunk saving money oriented ? 11:34 sfan5 !server 11:34 Minetest-tan ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 11:34 MinetestBot ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 11:34 sfan5 wat? 11:35 Zeg9 o.o 11:38 klunk ( Is there someone here who played were they were fireflyes in game, who can told me what's wrong with it ? ) 11:38 sfan5 klunk: me 11:38 sfan5 !server 11:38 Minetest-tan ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 11:39 MinetestBot ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 5, column 1711 (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/xml/dom/expatbuilder.py", line 223, in parseString) 11:39 klunk sfan5: cool, I read we can catch it ; wy abandon it ? Too much consomation of ressources ? 11:40 sfan5 dunno 11:40 klunk :-) 11:49 klunk Fireflyes are still in defaut init.lua, what I must do to re-activate it in singleplayer world (ubuntu) ? 11:50 sfan5 klunk: let me see 11:51 klunk thanks !! 11:51 sfan5 ummm 11:51 sfan5 i can't find it in init.lua 11:51 sfan5 !server 11:51 Minetest-tan ... 11:51 sfan5 !server 11:51 Minetest-tan ... 11:52 klunk hu me not more ?? where I read it ?? 12:02 sfan5 !server 12:02 Minetest-tan sfan5: Playground Server [0.4.4] | minetest.cloud.tilaa.org:30000 up (81.367%) 12:03 sfan5 !ping minetest.cloud.tilaa.org 12:03 moltenbot 64 bytes from 46.19.37.42: icmp_req=1 ttl=55 time=11.3 ms 12:03 sfan5 !up minetest.cloud.tilaa.org 12:03 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.cloud.tilaa.org:30000 UP 12:04 klunk I'm only sure I saw fireflyes in defaut mod textures, for the moment. 12:06 kaeza wb john_minetest 12:15 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 12:18 klunk PilzAdam: hello ! And see you later :-) 12:21 RagnarLaud hi 12:23 sfan5 !commands 12:23 sfan5 !help 12:23 moltenbot Try !up !teach !ping [] !date [timezone] !define !joke 12:23 sfan5 !joke 12:24 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking' 12:24 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: thinking definition: the action of using one's mind to produce thoughts. 12:24 kaeza !joke 12:25 kaeza (10:21:42) moltenbot: "kaeza does infinit loops in 4 seconds." 12:25 kaeza :D 12:25 kaeza chuck norris jokes FTW! 12:26 kaeza Richard Stallman wrote the compiler God used. The Big Bang was the Universe's first segfault 12:27 kaeza nice 12:27 kaeza :) 12:28 moltenbot john_minetest's link: StallmanFacts.com 12:28 markveidemanis hei 12:30 markveidemanis LOL 12:30 markveidemanis im getting a VPS soon 12:30 markveidemanis any recommendations 12:31 thexyz markveidemanis: hetzner.de 12:31 sfan5 hey Minetest-tan 12:31 Minetest-tan Hey sfan5 12:32 markveidemanis specifications... 12:32 markveidemanis 2GHz dual core 2 GB ram 12:33 markveidemanis also needs to be Lubuntu 12:33 thexyz why do you need *buntu for server? 12:33 markveidemanis to be faster 12:34 markveidemanis its the fastest OS 12:34 thexyz deeeerp 12:34 Zeg9 Who said it is the fastest. 12:34 Zeg9 There is no fastest OS. 12:34 markveidemanis it has to be! 12:35 thexyz that message is wrong in so many ways I don't even want to reply to it 12:35 markveidemanis i need someone to recommend me a company 12:35 Zeg9 2GB of ram will cost you 12:35 Zeg9 Why do you need 2GB? 12:36 markveidemanis i need a cheap server 12:37 markveidemanis LXDE is fast, right? 12:37 Zeg9 LXDE for a server... 12:37 Zeg9 For a server you should only use command line... 12:37 markveidemanis fine 12:37 Zeg9 or a windows server :p 12:37 thexyz that's what my message was referring to 12:37 markveidemanis i will, but... 12:37 markveidemanis NOOOO 12:37 markveidemanis not windows 12:37 kaeza a DOS 5.0 server? 12:37 markveidemanis YAY 12:37 markveidemanis DOS 12:37 thexyz so there's almost no difference between debian/ubuntu in speed 12:38 markveidemanis i dont care about OS as long as it works 12:38 Zeg9 I think debian is a good choice for servers 12:38 markveidemanis and i can get a GUI in a file manager 12:38 Zeg9 Why a GUI?.. 12:38 markveidemanis so Debian? 12:38 markveidemanis idk 12:38 markveidemanis maybe not 12:39 kaeza markveidemanis: do you have any idea of what is running a dedicated server? 12:39 markveidemanis Debian, 2GHz Dual - Core 1.7 GB ram? 12:39 markveidemanis NO 12:39 kaeza no GUI 12:39 kaeza and nightmares using SSH 12:40 markveidemanis i need a link 12:41 kaeza meh 12:41 thexyz markveidemanis: you don't need any links 12:41 * kaeza has no idea of how to run a server in a VPS anyway 12:41 thexyz just `man man` 12:42 markveidemanis VPS, 2GHz, 1.7GB RAM, Dual - Core Debian 12:42 Zeg9 How much does this cost? 12:43 markveidemanis IDK 12:43 markveidemanis max i will go is £20/year 12:43 markveidemanis :D 12:43 Zeg9 ... 12:43 kaeza (09:22:19) kaeza: mine cost 8k (~350 US$) with shitty taiwanese components. The only component worth it is the processor 12:43 Zeg9 This is more like $20/month 12:43 markveidemanis ok, then a server - not a VPS 12:43 Zeg9 Brb 12:44 Zeg9 Servers are even more expensive lol 12:44 markveidemanis not virtual 12:44 markveidemanis but how will i access it? 12:44 Zeg9 SSH 12:44 Zeg9 but it's really expensive you know 12:44 kaeza that is an Intel E5700 Dual Core @3.1MHz, 4GB of RAM, and 500GB of HDD 12:44 Zeg9 with 512 MB ram and a nice processor it's $5/month 12:44 Zeg9 So imagine. 12:44 kaeza adapt as you need 12:45 * Zeg9 is now away 12:45 thexyz hetzner ones are damn cheap 12:45 thexyz http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex4 12:45 moltenbot thexyz's link: Hetzner Online AG: Dedicated Server EX 4 12:45 thexyz kaeza: MHz? sure.. 12:46 kaeza GHz* 12:46 kaeza lol the Z80 had 4MHz 12:46 kaeza :P 12:47 kaeza s/had/ran at/ 12:49 markveidemanis i need a cheap server i dont give a shit to hardware any more 12:49 thexyz minetest will lag on shitty server 12:49 thexyz (it'll lag even on powerful one though) 12:50 thexyz markveidemanis: how much money can you spend on it per month? 12:50 kaeza thexyz: are there any "official" minimum requirements for MT? 12:50 markveidemanis £1 LOL 12:50 thexyz kaeza: no 12:50 markveidemanis £15 year max 12:50 thexyz markveidemanis: you're out of luck then 12:50 markveidemanis ok 30 12:51 thexyz per month? 12:51 markveidemanis nope 12:51 markveidemanis yesr 12:51 markveidemanis year 12:52 markveidemanis atm im building spawn on local server, anyone wanna join? 12:53 thexyz the cheapest one I can find is 2.9 €/month, 400mb ram, 750mhz, 6gb hdd 12:53 thexyz btw, markveidemanis, where are you from? 12:54 markveidemanis im in UK 12:54 thexyz and you can't spend more that 2 pounds per month on server? 13:01 kaeza sfan5: PHAIL: "The chemical formula for the highly toxic cyanide ion is CN-. These are also kaeza \' initials. This is not a coincidence." 13:02 sfan5 lol 13:02 kaeza :P 13:04 kaeza "I am a Potassium" -- Ralph Wiggum 13:06 markveidemanis can i get a free, like amazon server? 13:30 * Zeg9 is back 13:31 markveidemanis hello! 13:32 markveidemanis john, please finish your house 13:34 markveidemanis hi 13:51 kaeza markveidemanis: what was your server IP again? 13:54 analphabet Is there any roadmap available that shows the direction of future development, like planned features? 13:55 kaeza dunno 13:57 sdzen|farfaraway yes 13:57 sdzen|farfaraway but its not like anyone follows it to the dot 13:57 sdzen|farfaraway :P 14:03 jeffrash john or Zeg9 can you join the servers for a sec? I need help replacing three blocks in the street that are protected. 14:04 analphabet sdzen|farfaraway: Is it publicly available? :P 14:04 sdzen|farfaraway I suppose 14:04 sdzen|farfaraway sniff around the developer wiki 14:04 sdzen|farfaraway you will find it 14:05 jeffrash I only have about five min then I have to go 14:08 sdzen|farfaraway analphabet i just realized the meaning behind your nick 14:09 analphabet sdzen|farfaraway: What did you say? 14:09 analphabet ;) 14:10 sdzen|farfaraway analphabet: http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap:roadmap 14:10 moltenbot sdzen|farfaraway's link: 14:10 sdzen|farfaraway how useful moltenbot 14:10 analphabet thank you! 14:11 jeffrash john_minetest, I have to go, I left you a gift in the new street. Please replace the glowstones there with the lamps I left. thanks. 14:13 KikaRz Hi there people! 14:14 sdzen|farfaraway hello there person! 14:14 KikaRz @offtopic, Who can give me one copy of that computer? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-hmjwz8Ucw 14:14 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Best PC ever made 6tb - YouTube 14:36 sdzen|farfaraway i bet it runs minetest at like 100000 fps :P 14:38 sdzen|farfaraway I would assume that its something expensive :P 14:38 markveidemanis [13:51] markveidemanis: what was your server IP again? <== 86.134.112.141:30000 14:38 markveidemanis know an admin node protection mod 14:38 markveidemanis only accesible by administrators 14:39 kaeza markveidemanis: gonna test your server now 14:39 Zeg9 You can edit mine for that. 14:39 Zeg9 Just remove crafting recipe 14:40 markveidemanis no, i need coordinates, not blocks 14:41 markveidemanis like /protect 14:45 davidpace Hi All! :-) 14:45 ecube hai ;) 14:45 sdzen|farfaraway hello davidpace 14:55 kaeza markveidemanis: are you using the newer plantlife modpack? 14:56 kaeza hi davidpace 14:56 davidpace Hello kaeza 14:58 kaeza markveidemanis: too much lag for me 14:58 kaeza with my crappy inet connection 14:58 Zeg9 ...And mark's crappy inet connection 14:58 kaeza lol 14:58 PilzAdam back 14:58 kaeza wb 14:58 davidpace Haha 15:01 markveidemanis haha? 15:01 markveidemanis crappy 15:07 ecube don't you hate it when you run out of coal 15:15 * Zeg9 is bored. 15:15 ecube why 15:15 Zeg9 Because I'm bored. 15:16 ecube I tend to bore people with my talk about cake apocalypses 15:17 kaeza THE APOCALYPSE IS A LIE! 15:17 Zeg9 I'm already bored, don't add to it please :P 15:18 kaeza okay.jpg 15:18 Exio kill dash nine! 15:18 Exio hai 15:18 kaeza o hai Exio 15:20 markveidemanis so how can i make my server speed faster 15:24 markveidemanis the cake is a lie 15:28 ecube markveidemanis: kill unnecessary processes (check them with ps aux), install less mods 15:34 kaeza markveidemanis: run the dedicated server on a different machine with no X (i.e: CLI only) 15:38 ecube is he already using one though? 15:38 Zeg9 No. 15:38 * Calinou changed his avatar since 16 hours now 15:38 Calinou ecube: you probably recognize it :D 15:38 Zeg9 avatar? Where? 15:39 ecube I recognized most of your avatars 15:40 Zeg9 Weird, there is no commit on celeron55/minetest since 2 days now 15:40 Calinou Zeg9: on forums 15:40 Calinou it's the "duel" mutator icon in red eclipse :P 15:40 Calinou (the pistols) 15:40 ecube I knew that 15:41 Zeg9 I see . My cache wasn't up to date 15:51 ecube lol why 15:51 ecube advertising for minetest? 15:54 undercoveragent hey, half the people here is in there too! O_o 15:54 Zeg9 Seriously? 15:55 NakedFury I am there but that is not a minecraft channel 15:56 anonymousagent omg sfan5 is there, too :( 15:57 ecube Huh 15:58 ecube does he ever talk there? 15:58 Zeg9 #minecraft and #minecrafthelp on irc.esper.net are the official Minecraft channels 15:58 Zeg9 I don't know 15:58 Zeg9 But he is there. 15:58 undercoveragent sfan5|OFF: is in there too! you traitor! :P 15:58 Calinou The guys on #minecraft channel banned me :( 15:58 Calinou of course they do 15:59 Calinou I'm banned from #minecraft @ freenode and #minecraft @ espernet 15:59 undercoveragent lol 15:59 Calinou there is: "love mc or gtfo" 15:59 undercoveragent someone banned anoyne whose name contains "minetest" 16:00 NakedFury I have never seen a discussion about MC in those channels 16:00 ecube Actually, a lot of people even ban players who never bought the game 16:00 Calinou of course they do 16:00 Calinou NakedFury: true story 16:00 * Calinou holds glass of wine 16:00 NakedFury just stupid kids acting all big andmature talking about whos dick is the biggest 16:01 NakedFury more like #minecdraftofftopic 16:01 Calinou libreoffice time! 16:01 Calinou (you'll see why) 16:01 Zeg9 Calinou: Wanna see that 16:02 PilzAdam lol: first message i see on #minecraft: ....and the Login server goes down, what a perfect time ;) 16:02 undercoveragent heh 16:02 Zeg9 Their login server sucks. 16:02 Zeg9 It is always down 16:03 Zeg9 lol at this mod http://youtu.be/G7_QWe2_NIM 16:03 moltenbot Zeg9's link: Creeperdy creepz - YouTube 16:03 Zeg9 Yeah 16:03 Zeg9 I like the spawn coin lol 16:03 * Zeg9 Likes 16:04 ecube Haha... they banned everything with minetest in it 16:04 ecube oh damn 16:04 Zeg9 I got banned because I said hi to john 16:04 Zeg9 Well, muted 16:04 ecube lol 16:04 sfan5[iPod] who wanted to ask me something? 16:05 Zeg9 We saw you on #minecraft. 16:05 sfan5[iPod] i play minecraft 16:06 Exio kickbanned * 16:06 Zeg9 I got muted because I said Hi to john lol 16:06 Exio i should say 'hi Zeg9' 16:07 undercoveragent lol 16:07 Zeg9 Do you want to ? 16:07 Zeg9 I can join if you want 16:07 undercoveragent they're getting pissed off 16:08 ecube lol 16:08 Jordach the people in #minecraft are wastes of life. 16:08 undercoveragent join_minetest? 16:08 undercoveragent lulz 16:09 Jordach OMFG 16:09 rubenwardy hi al 16:09 rubenwardy ;; 16:09 rubenwardy l 16:10 Jordach we should lead a an angry landmine into #minecraft] 16:10 PilzAdam +1 16:10 mauvebic hi ;;l 16:10 kaeza +1 16:10 Jordach how fast will the ban happen> 16:10 sfan5[iPod] :D 16:10 Jordach + 16:10 Jordach +! 16:10 mauvebic -pi 16:10 Zeg9 +1 16:11 mauvebic +sqrt 16:11 ecube lolwut 16:11 Zeg9 !sqrt 16:11 Sweden whatwhat 16:11 Zeg9 we should lead a an angry landmine into #minecraft] 16:11 mauvebic dont forget the hypotenuse!~ 16:11 kaeza john_minetest: +1 16:11 Zeg9 +1 16:11 Calinou http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZoNw/Capture%20d%27%C3%A9cran%20-%2029122012%20-%2017:10:51.png 16:11 Zeg9 +20 16:12 Calinou (finally) 16:12 Zeg9 Nice 16:12 Jordach Calinou, lol 16:12 kaeza +1 16:12 Jordach now for #minetest 16:12 Sweden How dare they have fun on IRC! 16:12 kaeza 16:13 PilzAdam lets write a modify the IRC so it posts all debug lines to #minecraft 16:13 Jordach lol 16:13 Exio lolol 16:13 Sweden IRC channels are for serious on-topic discussions, especially unofficial ones. 16:13 PilzAdam (@all people from #minecraft here: yes, we have a simple modding API) 16:13 kaeza trollolol 16:13 Exio ban list filled in 3...2... 16:13 Zeg9 Calinou +20 16:13 Sweden :> 16:13 kaeza Exio: lol 16:13 Sweden I'm not trolling, just being snarky~ 16:13 sfan5[iPod] :D 16:14 Mortvert FREEZE! 16:14 Exio woo 16:14 sfan5[iPod] Mortvert: no 16:14 Mortvert Yes. 16:14 Jordach how about gtfo Minecrap n00b 16:14 sfan5[iPod] no 16:15 Zeg9 May I politely ask why I've been muted for saying "Hi!" 16:15 Mortvert Jordach - You're so cute. 16:15 Exio Zeg9: then you will get banned 16:16 Jordach and...drumroll please. no here gives two fucks 16:16 Mortvert There is no booze over here. Bummer. 16:16 kaeza phail 16:17 Zeg9 I got no answer. 16:18 sfan5[iPod] … 16:18 Jordach should i send in a message saying minetest is better 16:19 ecube nah, it makes minetest look bad 16:19 mauvebic thats gonna help with the griefing lol 16:20 Jordach should i piss on their reddit with manic digger is better? 16:20 Exio the best thing of MT is the opensource thing and the LUA mod api :P 16:20 ecube lol 16:20 mauvebic windows 3.1 RULEZS 16:20 ecube say Why do you hate minetst so much 16:21 Exio ecube: they hate decente software 16:21 Exio decent * 16:21 dos5rulez decente? 16:21 dos5rulez ah 16:21 Exio decente is in spanish :P 16:21 dos5rulez nou comprendou 16:21 dos5rulez :P 16:21 mauvebic impossibru 16:21 Exio lol 16:22 Exio wat 16:22 markveidemanis fghhj 16:22 rubenwardy my brother just said the IPad Mini is the best tablet there is... 16:22 rubenwardy of that size 16:22 mauvebic ce tu wla, gwassideur 16:22 ecube lol 16:22 Exio dos5rulez: my whois says you are from argentina 16:22 ecube apple is just getting to suck more and more 16:22 dos5rulez Exio: maybe 16:22 Exio geoip databa fail 16:22 Exio database * 16:22 dos5rulez more to the east 16:22 Exio yeah, ik 16:22 Jordach portugese? 16:22 dos5rulez more to the west 16:23 markveidemanis how do i make my server EVEN FASTER? 16:23 Exio markveidemanis: stop it 16:23 Zeg9 Make it on another computer. 16:23 mauvebic pour grape juice on it 16:23 Jordach emp it. 16:23 markveidemanis ok il try that 16:23 dos5rulez lolwut 16:23 markveidemanis i broke it 16:23 mauvebic now add marmalade 16:23 Zeg9 lol 16:24 Jordach D: GET OUT NOW. 16:24 Zeg9 Notch, I got a problem 16:24 Zeg9 Screenshot: 16:24 Zeg9 http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZoNw/Capture%20d%27%C3%A9cran%20-%2029122012%20-%2017:10:51.png 16:24 * Calinou patents pie charts 16:25 Zeg9 Brb. 16:25 iloveJB has the new 3d model a name? 16:26 iloveJB I remember someone said Robert but Jordachsaid no 16:26 Zeg9 Jean-Michel 16:27 PilzAdam iloveJB, its character.png 16:27 Zeg9 Hi character.png 16:29 rubenwardy why would anyone dislike mesecons 16:29 Calinou too slow :P 16:29 rubenwardy surpose 16:30 mauvebic i dont dislike, i just think api should be cpp (faster) 16:30 Calinou (not everyone can have an i7; people prefer smoking, eating candy, drinking cola) 16:30 Calinou :> 16:31 mauvebic older people have bills, bills and uhm.... oh yeah! more bills lol 16:31 mauvebic wtf is an i7? 16:32 Calinou intel's high end CPUs 16:32 mesetint mauvebic: a processor? 16:32 Calinou are you trolling me? :P 16:32 mauvebic i only got a dualcore 6mo ago lol 16:33 Calinou ._. 16:33 preludelinux_tv bills seem to multiple with age 16:33 rubenwardy I have a Pentium 16:33 rubenwardy very fast 16:34 preludelinux_tv of course i have to many pc's 16:34 rubenwardy for me, anyway. I am not a gamer so I dont need an i7, yet 16:34 PilzAdam lol, I am kicked from #minecraft 16:34 kaeza PilzAdam: what for? 16:35 PilzAdam I explained them that mesetint is the former name of Minetest 16:35 kaeza lol 16:35 mauvebic too powerful a comp isn't much better though - you endup writing mods that mostly only work for you lol 16:35 PilzAdam because someone called it mese tit 16:35 Zeg9 "Do not call me mushroom Adam; mushroom call me Adam or Adam" << your signature from google translate 16:35 devlab wtf? 16:35 mauvebic mese tits...lol 16:35 PilzAdam Zeg9, lol 16:36 Zeg9 Any other translator than google's ? :P 16:36 RagnarLaud hi 16:36 mauvebic "will perform sexual favours for mese pick-axe" lol 16:36 kaeza mauvebic: lol 16:36 kaeza RagnarLaud: hi 16:36 RagnarLaud hi kaeza 16:36 RagnarLaud i wanna play minetest, got any good servers that dont lag? 16:36 RagnarLaud maybe a survval server? 16:37 mauvebic god knows you have time for a happy ending before figuring out how to craft the pickaxe lol 16:37 kaeza 127.0.0.1 16:37 kaeza RagnarLaud: ^ 16:37 RagnarLaud ok 16:37 RagnarLaud thanks 16:38 mauvebic be careful for griefers on that server 16:38 RagnarLaud ok 16:39 RagnarLaud hey mauvebic 16:39 devlab Calinou: you ported the misa texture pack? 16:39 RagnarLaud did you make the hydroculture mod? 16:39 mauvebic a long time ago yeah lol 16:39 RagnarLaud why doesnt it have a dl link? 16:40 mauvebic i pulled it, then my old drive crashed and i lost everything on that :P 16:40 mauvebic besides the textures are shit 16:41 Zeg9 No 16:41 Zeg9 I may have an old hydroculture version.... Someone wants it ? :P 16:41 kaeza john_minetest: 4seasons 16:41 kaeza but no weather 16:41 mauvebic how old? does it still got the 3 colorful flowers? 16:42 mauvebic tried that 16:42 Zeg9 3 colorful flowers ? hmm don't think 16:42 Zeg9 john_minetest there is some snowfall in the snow mod now 16:42 * rubenwardy got HalfLife2 and Portal for Xmas 16:42 mauvebic weather will have to be done in cpp too lol 16:42 Zeg9 Yeah 16:43 mauvebic rain as entities is lagcity 16:43 Zeg9 Oh but wait 16:43 mauvebic rain done like the stars could work 16:43 Zeg9 With models now 16:43 Zeg9 Maybe there is some way to do it from server 16:43 mauvebic models? 16:43 Zeg9 models/meshes 16:43 mauvebic its the number of entities that lag 16:43 Zeg9 btw, hydro http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZobQ 16:43 mauvebic not the model of the raindrop 16:43 Zeg9 Yeah 16:43 Zeg9 but 16:43 Zeg9 in one model 16:43 Zeg9 you can put multiple rain drops ! 16:44 mauvebic problem: 16:44 mauvebic they all have to be same height 16:44 mauvebic otherwise bottom ones hit ground, floaty ones disapear? 16:44 mauvebic *height == elevation 16:44 Zeg9 Well... Yeah it would look hacky 16:45 Calinou devlab: yes 16:45 mauvebic not trying to discourage lol just tried alot of methods and saw the rsults lol 16:46 devlab Calinou: why does the Technic Mining Laser MK1 Look like a bow? 16:46 Calinou ask misa to make textures for a mining laser 16:47 Calinou in the misa pack for minecraft there is near-zero mod support :P 16:48 Zeg9 You can use the mining laser from haven tp 16:48 davidpace Is anyone interested in participating in this?: http://www.youtube.com/user/MinetestCommunity?feature=mhee 16:48 moltenbot davidpace's link: MinetestCommunity - YouTube 16:48 kaeza anyone thinks this may be useful for begginners? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4245 16:48 moltenbot kaeza's link: Windows Installer (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 16:48 sfan5 i can use my wiimote as mouse 16:49 PilzAdam davidpace, what do you mean by "participating"? 16:49 Zeg9 kaeza: many windows user would like that, yeah 16:49 davidpace By and helping upload videos 16:49 davidpace By being a part of the channel, help run it 16:49 Zeg9 kaeza: is it InnoSetup or NSIS 16:50 kaeza Zeg9: Inno 16:50 Zeg9 Inno FTW :D 16:50 kaeza I may release the script if there is interest 16:50 rubenwardy just ran it, i like it 16:51 RagnarLaud hey who wants to do a lets play? 16:51 rubenwardy you should add a screen that installs some basic mods 16:51 RagnarLaud kaeza 16:51 RagnarLaud ruben 16:51 kaeza rubenwardy: nice idea 16:51 RagnarLaud keaze, rubenwardy, whos up for a lets play? 16:51 Zeg9 http://github.com/Splizard/minetest-snow 16:52 Zeg9 wait no 16:52 Zeg9 http://github.com/Splizard/minetest-mod-snow 16:52 moltenbot Zeg9's link: Splizard/minetest-mod-snow ? GitHub 16:52 rubenwardy ie: farming, animals (simple or mobf), mesecons, carts, moreores, moreblocks, snow, food (maybe) 16:52 rubenwardy the most used ones 16:52 Exio isn't snow 'very slow'? 16:53 rubenwardy yes it is. 16:53 rubenwardy maybe it should be omited from "ie" 16:53 davidpace vbbl 16:53 davidpace bbl 16:53 rubenwardy " (4:53:08 PM) RagnarLaud: well then fuck you... -.- " 16:53 RagnarLaud david! 16:53 rubenwardy nice guy 16:53 kaeza anyone has more suggestions? 16:53 devlab haha, I'm reading the Misa HD texture pack on MCForum, hahaha http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/69354-64x14512w49a-misas-realistic-texture-pack-updated-10dec2012/#entry1114407 << -ahahahahaha 16:53 RagnarLaud FUCK 16:53 moltenbot devlab's link: [64x][1.4.5]+[12w49a] Misa's Realistic Texture Pack (UPDATED 10DEC2012) - Minecraft Forum 16:54 RagnarLaud !bbl 16:54 RagnarLaud !g bbl 16:54 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bbl 16:54 RagnarLaud !define bbl 16:55 rubenwardy be back later 16:55 RagnarLaud o ok 16:56 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3954 16:56 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis' Server (leave comments) (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums 16:56 mauvebic are there hidden fields for formspecs? 16:56 RagnarLaud hey mark 16:56 RagnarLaud or mauvebic 16:56 RagnarLaud you wanna do a lets play? 16:59 mauvebic hmm id rather play with myself 16:59 mauvebic *BY 16:59 mauvebic uhm 16:59 kaeza O_o 16:59 kaeza cannot unsee 16:59 mauvebic *by myself lol 16:59 devlab Who has marble in their mod? 16:59 Zeg9 Technic 16:59 Zeg9 ^ RealBadAngel 17:00 iqualfragile yeah, i have asked him to reduce the number of materials he generates 17:00 iqualfragile but he did not want to… 17:00 Zeg9 mauvebic, there is no hidden field :/ 17:00 mauvebic crap 17:00 Zeg9 I wanted one too lol 17:00 Zeg9 Why? 17:00 mauvebic so where do i hide start_i for buttons :/ lol 17:00 Zeg9 start_i? 17:00 Zeg9 Well if it's a node formsepc 17:00 Zeg9 spec 17:00 Zeg9 put it in node meta 17:00 iqualfragile zinc, uranium, marble, granite, chromium, obsidian, diamonds are all generated by technic 17:01 mauvebic im making a price index for an economy mod, using buttons instead of the inv 17:01 mauvebic meta: good idea, that or maybe put the pagenum in the buttons 17:01 Zeg9 Yeah but I think meta is better 17:02 Zeg9 Then it's your choice :p 17:02 mauvebic which would be faster? 17:02 mauvebic hmm 17:02 mauvebic same difference 17:02 Zeg9 Faster to code or at runtime? 17:02 mauvebic both cases you need meta lol 17:02 mauvebic meta to get formspec or starti field lol 17:02 Zeg9 No need to get formspec 17:03 mauvebic thats how creative does it but yeah 17:03 Zeg9 you know, the "fields" argument in on_receive_fields :P 17:03 mauvebic a meta field would be easier for this 17:03 Zeg9 For a node I always use meta 17:03 Zeg9 Then if it's an inventory thing I use a global variable in lua 17:04 mauvebic i need to combine the creative inventories of creative - gen2/gen3 and the economy mod lol 17:04 mauvebic taking longer and longer to startup 17:05 Zeg9 I noticed if you start singleplayer several times without closing minetest you get much more memory used 17:05 mauvebic you need to close the client everytime you restart 17:05 devlab RealBadAngel: what's the use for marble? 17:05 * rubenwardy is going on Half Life 2 now... 17:05 kaeza Zeg9: that's a serious mem leak 17:06 mauvebic like this zeg http://www.zimg.eu/i/552337754 17:06 kaeza also FPS drops considerably 17:06 kaeza rubenwardy: care for a CS 1.6 match? :P 17:07 rubenwardy huh? 17:07 kaeza I don't like source 17:07 Zeg9 mauvebic: what's that 30 and 50 numbers? 17:07 mauvebic buy/sell 17:07 Zeg9 Oh ok 17:07 rubenwardy I dont have CS 17:07 kaeza J/K 17:07 Zeg9 How do you decide if you want to buy or sell? 17:07 rubenwardy I like source 17:08 mauvebic sell: drop your items into the nodex (like inventory) 17:08 mauvebic buy: take them from nodex (like inventory) 17:08 mauvebic money is automatically calculated 17:08 Zeg9 ok 17:08 Zeg9 Nice you're selling the guns :D 17:08 Zeg9 Is there the one which blows everything up ? 17:09 mauvebic all the guns are on admin lock lol 17:09 mauvebic im tired of random visitors blowing a hole in my port hangar bay lol 17:09 mauvebic :P 17:09 kaeza umm... copying minecraft again? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4242 17:09 moltenbot kaeza's link: Butter Creeper (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 17:09 * Zeg9 doesn't feel concerned 17:09 mauvebic loll 17:10 mauvebic though the price index is sposed to show item images not buttons 17:10 mauvebic rba said he'd fix that bug this week 17:12 markveidemanis [16:59] Who has marble in their mod? 17:12 markveidemanis building blocks 17:12 mauvebic was prolly the first to try and use item_image[..] since there were no other examples lol 17:13 * john_minetest thinks he should change his IRC name because "minetest" in "john_minetest" is too specified. 17:13 markveidemanis ? 17:14 Calinou join #ubuntu 17:14 Calinou ??? 17:14 Calinou PROFIT 17:14 markveidemanis haha 17:14 markveidemanis who can help with node ownership 17:14 markveidemanis i need to protect spawn on my server 17:14 PilzAdam john_minetest, its verry laggy 17:15 mauvebic there is a rain mod now? cool 17:15 ecube doesn't it involve spawning several entities with the texture of a cluster of a raindrop? 17:16 Zeg9 Did I miss something? 17:16 Zeg9 My PLC disconnected... Maybe I'll use WiFi again lol 17:17 Zeg9 What's this mod? 17:18 Zeg9__ hi 17:18 Zeg9 Should I also register Zeg9__ ? 17:18 Innocence who will help me with my server? 17:18 Innocence Zeg9_________________________________________ 17:18 Exio you should register Zeg9____________ too 17:18 Innocence lol 17:18 ecube Innocence: what do you need help with? 17:19 Innocence register all! 17:19 Innocence everything 17:19 Zeg9 Yeah then people will have to pay to have an irc name :) 17:19 Innocence protecting my server from GRIEFERs 17:19 ecube grif protection 17:19 Innocence S 17:19 Innocence yep 17:19 Innocence ? 17:20 Jean-Michel john will understand :p 17:20 Innocence so who will help with protecting spawn? 17:20 Zeg9 How hard is it to place protection blocks? 17:23 Zeg9 Innocence, you should register at nickserv 17:23 Innocence i have 17:23 Zeg9 Why could I group it to my account then 17:24 markveidemanis minetest net viewtopic php id 3954 17:24 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3954 17:24 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis' Server (leave comments) (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums 17:24 markveidemanis leave comments! 17:24 Zeg9 Stop spamming --' 17:25 Sweden haha 17:25 Sweden irony 17:25 Zeg9 mark, could you make a DNS record for your server ? 17:25 Zeg9 I don't feel like entering the IP everytime 17:26 markveidemanis DNS? 17:26 markveidemanis step by step guide for the DNS 17:27 markveidemanis :D 17:27 Zeg9 http://afraid.org 17:27 markveidemanis i cant click on the link... 17:27 markveidemanis im scared 17:27 markveidemanis LOL 17:27 markveidemanis what will happen? 17:27 Zeg9 ... 17:27 PilzAdam gtg; bye 17:28 Zeg9 It's a freeDNS website... 17:28 Zeg9 Cya 17:28 markveidemanis what now? 17:28 Zeg9 !g afraid.org 17:28 Minetest-tan Zeg9: http://freedns.afraid.org/ 17:28 Zeg9 Then hit subdomains 17:28 Zeg9 Register 17:28 markveidemanis Why is it free? It's quite simple. We wanted a challenge... that's it. 17:28 Zeg9 If you want you can pay it's $1 a month 17:28 markveidemanis NO! 17:29 markveidemanis done. logged it 17:29 markveidemanis in 17:30 Zeg9 Then click subdomains again 17:30 Zeg9 click add 17:30 Zeg9 and enter the settings 17:30 markveidemanis subdomain:???? 17:30 Zeg9 Choose. 17:31 markveidemanis mark.no-ip.net 17:31 markveidemanis will that wotk? 17:32 Zeg9 ... 17:32 Zeg9 Subdomain: choose one 17:32 Zeg9 Wait 17:32 Zeg9 Subdomain: mark 17:32 Zeg9 If the domain is strangled.net 17:32 Zeg9 then you'll be mark.strangled.net 17:32 markveidemanis oh no 17:32 markveidemanis ok no, 17:32 markveidemanis mooo 17:33 markveidemanis mooo.com 17:33 markveidemanis lol: mark.moo.com? 17:33 markveidemanis ok.DONE 17:34 markveidemanis no, server.strangled.net 17:34 markveidemanis idk 17:34 markveidemanis done 17:34 mauvebic !up mauvebic.strangled.net 17:34 moltenbot Minetest server mauvebic.strangled.net:30000 UP 17:35 markveidemanis !up mark.strangled.net 17:35 moltenbot Minetest server mark.strangled.net:30000 DOWN 17:35 Zeg9 fail. 17:35 markveidemanis WTF 17:35 markveidemanis oh, its still loading 17:35 Zeg9 !up mark.strangled.net.strangled.net 17:35 moltenbot Minetest server mark.strangled.net.strangled.net:30000 UP 17:35 markveidemanis YAY 17:35 Zeg9 You serious ? ... 17:36 mauvebic sweet, spawnpoint working 17:36 Zeg9 lol did you see that 17:36 Zeg9 he registered mark.strangled.net.strangled.net 17:36 markveidemanis i did something, im not incompetent! 17:36 Zeg9 Yeah 17:36 Zeg9 Still better than nothing 17:36 markveidemanis oh, well 17:36 Zeg9 in subdomain just put mark 17:36 markveidemanis i fucked up somewhere 17:36 markveidemanis :D 17:37 markveidemanis i need to choose another address, how many people could be called mark? 17:37 Exio lolol 17:37 Zeg9 What about: markmt.strangled.net 17:37 Zeg9 or markv 17:37 Exio reading is hard Zeg9 17:37 mauvebic ugh 17:37 mauvebic tried to use a ufo 17:37 markveidemanis markmt.yes 17:37 mauvebic its on zeg's head 17:38 markveidemanis !up markmt.strangled.net 17:38 mauvebic looks like an old english sunday hat lol 17:38 moltenbot Minetest server markmt.strangled.net:30000 UP 17:38 markveidemanis ima update forums 17:38 Zeg9 Yeah Exio, so hard 17:38 Zeg9 He said step by step 17:38 Zeg9 :p 17:39 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55068#p55068 <<=== DID IT! 17:39 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: MarkVeidemanis' Server (leave comments) (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums 17:39 markveidemanis JOIN< LETS HAVE A PARTY 17:39 markveidemanis whoops, holding shift 17:40 markveidemanis !up mark.strangled.net.strangled.net 17:40 moltenbot Minetest server mark.strangled.net.strangled.net:30000 DOWN 17:40 markveidemanis dammit 17:40 markveidemanis join my server everyone, finally i have a DNS 17:40 markveidemanis !!!j 17:40 markveidemanis !g help 17:40 Minetest-tan markveidemanis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help!_(album) 17:41 markveidemanis !d lol 17:41 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking' 17:42 davidpace Hola 17:43 mauvebic gwassideur 17:43 markveidemanis !up markmt.strangled.net 17:43 moltenbot Minetest server markmt.strangled.net:30000 UP 17:43 markveidemanis JOIN 17:44 ecube wat 17:44 ecube !servers 17:44 ecube !list 17:45 markveidemanis !l servers 17:45 markveidemanis !g !g 17:45 Minetest-tan markveidemanis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-force 17:45 ecube lol 17:45 markveidemanis ahahhaha 17:45 markveidemanis In straight and level flight lift (L) equals weight (W). In a banked turn of 60°, lift equals double the weight (L=2W). The pilot experiences 2g and a doubled weight. The steeper the bank, the greater the g-forces. 17:45 RagnarLaud hi 17:46 davidpace What genre of music is best for a "how to" Video? 17:46 RagnarLaud hey david! 17:46 RagnarLaud david!!! 17:46 davidpace Yea? 17:46 markveidemanis ragnarlaud 17:46 mauvebic country 17:46 markveidemanis join my server 17:46 RagnarLaud you wanna do a lets play? 17:46 Calinou davidpace: xonotic's music 8D 17:46 markveidemanis markmt.strangled.net 17:46 Calinou (it is freely usable, btw) 17:46 RagnarLaud david 17:46 davidpace What? 17:46 RagnarLaud wanna do a lets play? 17:46 mauvebic something modern like bing crosby or conway twitty 17:46 Calinou btw, hi davidpace :) 17:47 davidpace Hi Calinou 17:47 RagnarLaud wait...do you have a mic? 17:47 davidpace Ragnar not now. 17:47 davidpace And yes I do 17:47 RagnarLaud ok 17:47 RagnarLaud really? 17:47 RagnarLaud then why not? 17:47 davidpace Because I can't right now 17:48 markveidemanis join my serveeeer 17:48 RagnarLaud mark 17:48 RagnarLaud gimme the ip 17:48 kaeza davidpace: Hola! 17:48 RagnarLaud hey david 17:48 RagnarLaud are you in game atm? 17:48 davidpace Hi kaeza 17:48 markveidemanis markmt.strangled.net 17:48 davidpace Ragnar no 17:48 RagnarLaud ok 17:48 RagnarLaud oh... 17:48 RagnarLaud mark, do you havee a mic? 17:48 davidpace Calinou, wtf is xonotic's music 8D? 17:48 markveidemanis yes 17:48 davidpace :-) 17:48 RagnarLaud mumble? 17:49 RagnarLaud mark, lets mumble :D 17:49 markveidemanis ? 17:49 Calinou davidpace: the "8D" is a smiley... xonotic is a free and open source FPS, see xonotic.org 17:49 Calinou it has some kind of futuristic music 17:49 davidpace Ooooo Okay Thanks :d 17:49 RagnarLaud lets play on your server and talk on mumble... 17:50 markveidemanis il PM you.... 17:50 davidpace xonotic.org is a game... 17:50 RagnarLaud k 17:50 Calinou yes, it is 17:50 Calinou but you're allowed to use its music, just saying 17:50 Calinou (you'll find it in xonotic-music.pk3 which is in the "data" folder, open it with an archive maanger) 17:50 Calinou manager* 17:51 davidpace Ookay, but i'm not gonna download a game just for the music. Thanks anyway 17:51 Calinou I could send you the music :P 17:51 RagnarLaud Calinou 17:51 davidpace Okay 17:51 RagnarLaud you wanna mumble? 17:51 davidpace Taht'll work Calinou :P 17:51 davidpace *that'll 17:51 Calinou file-roller, i am disappoint 17:51 Calinou uses 1 CPU core only... :| 17:52 Calinou heh 17:52 Kacey hello 17:52 Calinou .tar.xz == 36MB 17:52 Calinou .zip == 35.9MB 17:52 Calinou lossless is lighter than lossy 17:52 Calinou .ogg is already compressed :P 17:52 mauvebic not so bad 17:52 mauvebic try compressing a half gig map lol 17:52 Calinou that's gonna take a while to upload :D 17:53 mauvebic debug.txt was 3gb... hadn;t cleaned that out in awhile lol 17:53 davidpace Nvm then :), I'll just use the wide selection yt already has up 17:53 mauvebic i can drink a six pack while uploading the map on ompldr lol 17:53 markveidemanis Infinity69? 17:53 VanessaE hi all.. 17:53 markveidemanis who's that 17:53 iqualfragile Calinou: https://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods i see that you have put your mods on github 17:54 RagnarLaud hi vanessae 17:54 iqualfragile could you please split them up? 17:54 mauvebic could almost setup a small file server and save some time lol 17:54 Kacey hi v 17:54 Calinou iqualfragile: I do since like 6 months 17:54 Calinou iqualfragile: why? 17:54 iqualfragile it would be way easyer to manage if every mod had its own repos 17:54 Calinou just git clone then remove the mods you don't want :P 17:54 kaeza hey VanessaE 17:54 Calinou hosting a modpack in the same repo has many upsides 17:54 kaeza hey Kacey 17:54 Calinou one issue tracker for all the mods... better imo 17:54 Kacey hey keaza 17:55 Kacey kaeza* 17:55 iqualfragile on the one hand that would allow me/server-admins to do git clone git://github.com/Calinou/maptools.git 17:55 Calinou hi Kacey 17:55 davidpace Hi Kacey 17:55 Kacey hi Calinou 17:55 davidpace Lets all just say hi to kacey 17:55 Kacey hi davidpace 17:55 davidpace :-) 17:55 Kacey lol why not 17:55 iqualfragile on the other hand it is better for pull-requests 17:55 davidpace Just Joking :P 17:55 Calinou iqualfragile: git clone git://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods.git && cd calinou_mods && rm -rf 17:55 Calinou ;) 17:56 iqualfragile Calinou: im not stupid 17:56 iqualfragile please keep that in mind 17:56 davidpace We really thought you were 17:56 davidpace :P 17:56 iqualfragile of cause i could do that 17:56 iqualfragile or clone them into some dir and then create links 17:56 iqualfragile but thats not "clean" 17:56 Zeg9 iqualfragile, I have a way to do it 17:56 iqualfragile you should have one repos for one project 17:57 iqualfragile not one for 4 17:57 Zeg9 git clone in a .* directory 17:57 Zeg9 then link the mods you want to your mods folder 17:57 iqualfragile Zeg9: reading, can you use it? 17:57 mauvebic imo 1 github repo is a PITA to manage lol 17:57 iqualfragile let me cite my self: "or clone them into some dir and then create links" 17:57 Zeg9 ok. Sorry I just came 17:58 iqualfragile -.- 17:58 mauvebic was it... good? 17:58 mauvebic :p 17:58 davidpace -.- 17:58 mauvebic lolll 17:58 davidpace -.- 17:58 davidpace O_O 17:58 iqualfragile so: please split them up Calinou 17:59 iqualfragile and the "easy updating" part is lost when i have to delete anything from the folder 17:59 mauvebic im going to offer a courrier pidgeon download option that should fix all these issues 18:00 mauvebic faster than most rural ISPs 18:00 mauvebic lol 18:00 Calinou do it 18:00 mauvebic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers 18:01 moltenbot mauvebic's link: IP over Avian Carriers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 18:01 VanessaE what I do in the case of mod archives like calinou's is I git pull into a directory set aside for them, then copy out what I want via a script I wrote that builds the game used on my server 18:01 Calinou if you want to update, then git reset --hard HEAD 18:01 Calinou then pull then remove the folder 18:01 Calinou only two more commands 18:01 iqualfragile mauvebic: i have posted that exact link about 5 days ago 18:01 Calinou it's not like I update my mods every hour 18:01 mauvebic really? freaky 18:01 iqualfragile Calinou: and its not automatizable anymore 18:01 Calinou shell scripts? 18:02 iqualfragile yeah, but not general shell scripts 18:02 davidpace Lalala, an almost useless video!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaL0NmbS5r8 :D:D 18:02 moltenbot davidpace's link: How to download and play Minetest for Windows! - YouTube 18:02 iqualfragile i would have to add a special handler just for you 18:02 kaeza davidpace: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4245 18:02 moltenbot kaeza's link: Windows Installer (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 18:02 davidpace I love you moltenbot! 18:02 kaeza (ads provided by adtest) :) 18:02 ecube we really need one for linux-based machines 18:03 iqualfragile https://github.com/iqualfragile/minetest_scripts Calinou: that updates all mods automaticly 18:03 moltenbot Masters link: iqualfragile/minetest_scripts ? GitHub 18:03 mauvebic no point installs differently on most distros 18:03 mauvebic paths are different 18:03 davidpace Hence, my "Almost useless" text 18:03 ecube but that's exactly why we should do it 18:04 iqualfragile besides yours and the ones of thexyz, i have to create a special directory and link the wanted mods, and thats just pointless Calinou 18:04 ecube bah. maybe not. 18:04 mauvebic yeah but who will keep it up to date for every distro? 18:04 mauvebic fedora, arch, ubuntu, debian, what else? lol 18:05 mauvebic i think i heard gentoo the other day 18:05 davidpace Hey! 6 views already! :-) and none of them are by me! 18:05 iqualfragile minetest works on puppy 18:05 ecube that's because people on the channel were watching it 18:05 ecube you linked us to it 18:05 davidpace I know, but who watched it here? 18:05 ecube mauvebic: Surely installing from source is more generic? 18:05 kaeza not me 18:05 davidpace I doubt anyone 18:06 preludelinux_tv its not too hard to pull from git and build the newest version from time to time 18:06 mauvebic and if any noob runs into problems with things like folder permissions 18:06 ecube but for people who don't know... 18:06 ecube lol 18:06 mauvebic drivers and configs 18:07 mauvebic probably a seperate page for each distro install lol 18:07 mauvebic talk to mark he's doing a doc thing 18:07 davidpace Next video.... how to install a texture pack! I know there are already videos out there on how to do it, but I wanna do it for that specific channel :-) 18:08 Calinou ecube: I made an one-line script for downloading & compiling minetest 18:08 Calinou for debian-based distros 18:08 ecube can you link me to it? 18:08 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837 18:08 moltenbot Calinou's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 18:09 mauvebic not to knock on debian but its the only distro i know where binary and nouveau suck equally lol 18:09 VanessaE davidpace: use my HDX as your example texture pack :-) 18:09 Calinou mauvebic: no u 18:09 davidpace VanessaE; I will! :-) 18:09 Calinou real men use proprietary drivers, too 18:09 davidpace AFk 18:10 kaeza VanessaE: are texture transforms "official" or some kind of quick hack? 18:10 mauvebic try puppy, arch, maybe slackware, youll double your fps lol 18:10 Calinou zero issues with nvidia driver so far 18:10 VanessaE kaeza: they're official afaik,. 18:10 Calinou arch isn't any faster than ubuntu for anything 18:10 Calinou it doesn't even boot faster 18:10 VanessaE at least official enough that MT has had them for a long while now 18:10 ecube it's cleaner though 18:10 Calinou call me when it is 1) usable 2) efficient 18:10 kaeza VanessaE: I guess units for some of them should be in percentage 18:10 ecube usable? 18:10 Calinou who cares about "clean" 18:10 celeron55 VanessaE: not all of them are official 18:10 ecube it's certainly usable 18:10 mauvebic whats your average uptime? 18:10 celeron55 some are intended for only internal engine usage and may change anytime 18:10 Calinou ecube: I mean, not impossible to install :P 18:11 Calinou mauvebic: I don't keep my computer on 24/7 18:11 ecube Calinou: I generally don't like it when an operating system forces me to use a certain software 18:11 Kacey hey c55 is on 18:11 VanessaE celeron55: I think he's referring to stuff like [transformR90 and so forth 18:11 ecube like pulseaudio 18:11 ecube gnome 18:11 celeron55 there is some issue or pull request on github that has the exact information on this 18:11 ecube blahblahblah 18:11 Calinou no gnome here, xfce 18:11 Calinou pulseaudio ftw 18:11 markveidemanis how to unzip .Gz file in terminal linux? 18:11 Kacey xfce FTW!!!! 18:11 VanessaE celeron55: not the 'internal' stuff 18:11 ecube mauvebic: tar xvf FILENAME 18:11 Calinou it does use CPU, but it works and lets you play several sound sources easily 18:11 Calinou also, pavucontrol is awesome 18:11 mauvebic dualcore is going on 14 days, p4 11 1/2 days lol 18:11 ecube oss ftw 18:11 Calinou I could do that if I wanted 18:11 Calinou oss is obsolete.. 18:12 Calinou support is worse, too 18:12 ecube idc 18:12 ecube i hate pulse 18:12 Calinou reason? 18:12 mauvebic and cpu and ram are still near zero 18:12 Calinou doesn't work with your dell? 18:12 Calinou mauvebic: RAM usage is not an indicator of performance 18:12 ecube lol yes 18:12 Calinou 12GB RAM here, I don't whine when 1GB RAM gets used when playing a game 18:12 ecube and when it does, it just tends to fail on me 18:12 kaeza VanessaE: this is what I'm talking about: 18:12 VanessaE kaeza: already seen it. 18:12 kaeza this is using normal 16px textures: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3878803943.jpg 18:13 mauvebic 12gb, that explains why you dont have problems with debian lol 18:13 celeron55 kaeza, VanessaE: my comment here: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/361 18:13 kaeza and this is using your 128px pack: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3878770416.jpg 18:13 moltenbot celeron55's link: Added texture transformations documentation to MT Lua API docs. by kaeza ? Pull Request #361 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 18:13 Calinou xubuntu 18:13 Calinou also, I could live with 2GB :P 18:13 mauvebic i got 3 and 2, and i dont need the system taking up a third or half of it 18:13 VanessaE kaeza: I use your version of the API doc as a reference when I need one of those transforms :-) 18:13 ecube Calinou: there's a tutorial on installing arch 18:13 Calinou 612MB used right now 18:13 mauvebic even ubuntu xfce is slower than xfce on other systems (why?) 18:13 Calinou ecube: doesnotworkforme 18:13 celeron55 kaeza, VanessaE: that is, [forcesingle, [verticalframe and [crack* do not belong to the official api 18:14 Kacey xubuntu FTW!!!!! 18:14 Calinou mauvebic: remove some startup applications like bluetooth, update notifier 18:14 VanessaE celeron55: right. 18:14 markveidemanis how can i extract a file in terminal under linux? 18:14 kaeza celeron55: ok 18:14 Calinou gunzip 18:14 celeron55 oh, that pull request was from kaeza 18:14 VanessaE celeron55: at any rate, you should merge kaeza's changes as soon as [forcesingle/[verticalframe/[crack* are removed from it. 18:14 Calinou bunzip2 18:15 Calinou for .gz and .bz2 respectively 18:15 Calinou then extract the .tar if any: tar xf 18:15 celeron55 why does kaeza even ask anything then... 18:15 davidpace back 18:15 mauvebic the best thing anyone can do anyhow is to try different distros on an extra partition (without screwing up their root) 18:15 mauvebic you find it fast enough what works and doesnt lol 18:15 ecube tar xf works for most archives 18:15 marktraceur OldCoder: Hi! 18:15 Calinou hi marktraceur 18:15 kaeza celeron55: I just asked if they were an official part of the api since the positions/dimensions would be better in percentages 18:16 Calinou marktraceur: distro war, participate 18:16 ecube arch ftw 18:16 mauvebic not a distro war with 2 distros, more like 18:16 mauvebic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOO7lkV1BGY 18:16 kaeza hey marktraceur 18:16 moltenbot mauvebic's link: coq fight - YouTube 18:16 mauvebic lol 18:17 mauvebic what is ftw? 18:17 ecube for the win 18:17 mauvebic aah 18:17 ecube hai mark 18:17 mauvebic arch is still a c*** to install binary blobs lol 18:18 mauvebic but its much the same everywhere 18:18 marktraceur Calinou: Who's asking? I think I've recommended Trisquel GNU/Linux to all who have asked so far. 18:18 marktraceur kaeza: What's up? 18:18 ecube ubuntu's been doing stuff like windows lately 18:19 mauvebic i used to like crunchbang but the updates were sporadic 18:19 kaeza VanessaE: so should documentation about those transforms be discarded? 18:19 kaeza marktraceur: not much 18:19 VanessaE kaeza: about the 'internal' ones, yeah. 18:19 mauvebic CB = blazing fast debian 18:20 davidpace Alrighty, leaving to do another video on texture packs ;-) 18:20 davidpace Bbl 18:20 kaeza VanessaE: OK, and I will take celeron55's suggestion to reformat it more like the rest of the file 18:20 kaeza and add other details to api.minetest.net 18:21 VanessaE information like this needs to be documented. 18:21 mauvebic was there a pull request for item_image[] since yesterday? 18:21 RagnarLaud hi minetest-tan 18:21 Minetest-tan Hi RagnarLaud 18:21 RagnarLaud hi VanessaE 18:22 VanessaE hi. 18:22 mauvebic +10 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/372 18:22 moltenbot mauvebic's link: Implement "textarea", a multi-line input field in formspec by Jeija ? Pull Request #372 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 18:22 RagnarLaud vamessa, are you in game arm? 18:22 VanessaE RagnarLaud: eh? 18:22 RagnarLaud are you plating right now 18:22 kaeza mauvebic: cool 18:22 RagnarLaud playing* 18:22 RagnarLaud hi kaeza 18:23 kaeza hi 18:23 VanessaE not at the moment. 18:23 mauvebic kaeza not my pull its jeija's 18:23 kaeza mauvebic: I know 18:23 RagnarLaud kaeza are you in-game? 18:23 mauvebic ahk lol 18:23 kaeza nope 18:23 RagnarLaud oh... 18:23 RagnarLaud well come to Glomies 18:23 mauvebic but nothing on itemimage yet :( 18:24 RagnarLaud !up glomies 18:24 RagnarLaud !server 18:24 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: LPGC Minetest Server | games.libreplanet.org:30000 down 18:24 RagnarLaud !server 18:24 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: M13's Server (0.4.3) | m13.servegame.com:30001 down 18:24 RagnarLaud !server 18:24 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: Shaun's survival & IRC testing server (0.4.4) | mcbride.homelinux.net:30000 up (97.981%) 18:24 ecube dayum 18:24 kaeza mauvebic: that could be used for a description field for an internal mod manager :) 18:25 ecube i hope mine's not listed, it's been down for months 18:25 ecube with no intention of putting it back up 18:25 kaeza and for the signs+ (or whatever it is called) 18:25 VanessaE ecube: sad, it was a nice map :-/ 18:26 ecube it wasn't running on a dedicated host and I didn't have the resources to get one... that was its main downfall... 18:26 mauvebic kaeza i was thinking textareas would be more practical for RPG mods 18:27 mauvebic NPCs, quests, shit like that 18:27 kaeza mauvebic: +1000000 to whoever codes a real NPC 18:28 markveidemanis +∞ 18:28 kaeza s/real/good/ 18:28 mauvebic dont look at me, ask jordan and sapier lol 18:28 mauvebic textarea will be practical for my market mod tho 18:29 Calinou +∞ to whoever codes fast mobs 18:29 kaeza meh, jordan does not come here and I won't waste my precious time sending an E-mail 18:29 mauvebic slow mobs aint the modders' fault 18:29 VanessaE kaeza: he'll be back after the first of the year, so he said 18:29 mauvebic entities are just slow 18:29 mauvebic more entities = more slow 18:30 kaeza yeah 18:30 mauvebic no entities on my p4, dualcore ok 18:30 Calinou mauvebic: fast mobs need C++, this is why noone made fast mobs 18:30 Calinou making AI in lua is beyond pointless 18:30 mauvebic and if you already have a shitload of abm's on your server dont imagine that helps entities one bit lol 18:30 kaeza Calinou: whoever ported mobs to Lua deserves a -1000 18:31 Calinou heh, davidpace left, I finished uploading the music.. 18:31 devlab how swell, i did a test join on markveidemanis' server, first thing i see from him is to compile Minetest's latest git 18:31 mauvebic well a mob api done in cpp for the most basic of AI's and a lua wrapper/interface would be best 18:31 Calinou gtg anyway, bye 18:32 VanessaE cya Calinou 18:32 mauvebic but anyways, velocity and accell could be a little better 18:32 mauvebic *accel 18:33 mauvebic though syntax highlighting doesn't help me *get* cpp so it wont be me lol 18:34 mauvebic +1 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/370 18:34 moltenbot mauvebic's link: Fix attachment bug: the parent going faster than the camera by Zeg9 ? Pull Request #370 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 18:35 mauvebic if it works thats great 18:38 Zeg9 It does. ;) 18:39 Zeg9 There are still some bugs like the duplicating entities, but it's another thing 18:41 mauvebic sweet 18:41 mauvebic still havent figured how to texture meshes so ill leave em blank lol 18:43 Zeg9 mauvebic, you need blender or a similar program to do that 18:43 Zeg9 Or you can edit the UV map directly from the model file, but good luck with that :P 18:43 mauvebic tried 18:44 mauvebic looks like rocket science 18:44 mauvebic lol 18:44 Zeg9 My pull request fixes the player being outside of the UFO when you're going fast, for example 18:45 * Zeg9 will be back later 18:46 mauvebic does it fix the player being scaled to the same visual size of the entitity? 18:46 mauvebic okiedokie 18:51 Kacey we need a village/villager mod 18:52 mauvebic like this? http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/76500672/Village+People+png.png 19:01 Kacey idk 19:06 VanessaE zzz 19:06 mauvebic cornernote wrote a village mod i think 19:08 ecube did it generate villages around the map? 19:09 mauvebic ouf its been awhile 19:09 mauvebic but its not difficult to have random WEP's spawn 19:09 mauvebic pick a random point, calculate space, terrain elevation, and poof 19:10 mauvebic even easy to calculate avg terrain height and even it out 19:11 mauvebic add all the coordinates of grass nodes, divide by the number, math floor and you got an even lot 19:11 iqualfragile mauvebic: ont forget to advoid building villages over clifs :D 19:12 mauvebic well any WEP spawner well check the given area to see what fits 19:12 mauvebic otherwise it would look funny yeah lol 19:13 mauvebic be a cool way to populate a new server with a small spawncity 19:14 mauvebic make a repo of WEP's people can download too, make easy replace of nodes they dont have, etc. 19:15 mauvebic could even have an online version of the mod that spawns new WEPs regardless of mod updates lol 19:15 mauvebic (get em off the net) 19:15 mauvebic could use python for that if lua dont work 19:17 mauvebic hell i may even find a way to buy WEP's through my market thingy (with the funny money) 19:22 markveidemanis give me a link to a service that can host my minetest server with no lagg, i want to pay yearly 19:22 mauvebic ask oldcoder and jordach, they know about vps's 19:23 markveidemanis Noooooo 19:23 markveidemanis good timing... 19:25 markveidemanis ll 19:25 kaeza ll? 19:26 marktraceur markveidemanis: Linode is a good VPS service 19:26 markveidemanis k 19:26 markveidemanis payment? 19:26 marktraceur markveidemanis: I don't know, you can look at it 19:26 markveidemanis I am 19:26 thexyz marktraceur: no way, he's only going to spend something like 2 pounds/month 19:27 marktraceur markveidemanis: I'd imagine most companies can accept a payment that covers your account for the year, but that seems like you'll need to call someone to set it up 19:27 thexyz and linode is more expensive that hetzner ^^ 19:27 markveidemanis at the maximum, im paying £20 a year 19:28 markveidemanis just £20! 19:28 marktraceur markveidemanis: Then you are not going to space today 19:28 jklsemicolon what happened to moltenbot? 19:28 VanessaE you'll be lucky to find a VPS that cheap 19:28 markveidemanis ok, 30 maybe 19:28 VanessaE I'd guess you can expect closer to 150/yr or so. 19:29 thexyz markveidemanis: http://vps2fast.com/vds/ 19:29 moltenbot thexyz's link: Cheap virtual dedicated server, managed virtual server hosting Linux - FastVPS 19:29 thexyz ^ those are some russian guys who resell hetzner btw 19:29 markveidemanis k thanks 19:29 VanessaE ..for a VPS that's *fast enough* for MT server and a handful of good mods. 19:29 thexyz yeah 19:29 thexyz marktraceur: but be afraid of OpenVZ 19:30 markveidemanis how many MHz in a GHz (N00B, sorry) 19:30 VanessaE markveidemanis: 1000 19:30 markveidemanis thanks 19:30 VanessaE 1 GHz = 1000 MHz 19:31 markveidemanis how much RAM do i need? 19:31 marktraceur markveidemanis: All the units are multiples of 1024, which is 2^10. 19:31 thexyz marktraceur: unrelated, what server does LPGC use for MT? 19:31 VanessaE RAM isn't much of an issue, it's CPU speed that you need to focus on 19:31 markveidemanis 750 MHz 19:31 marktraceur thexyz: It's hosted on FSF hardware, running Trisquel GNU/Linux. 19:31 markveidemanis ? 19:32 VanessaE 750 MHz ain't gonna cut it. you need 2+ GHz for good performance. 19:32 marktraceur thexyz: The current lack of server upness can be attributed to my lack of planning, by the way :) 19:33 markveidemanis k 19:33 markveidemanis maybe 1700 MHz 19:33 markveidemanis ? 19:33 markveidemanis lol i have 1.6 on my pc 19:33 markveidemanis and runs good 19:33 markveidemanis kind of 19:33 VanessaE "kind of" 19:33 VanessaE either it does or it don't :-) 19:34 OldCoder Back 19:34 VanessaE A lot depends on how many mods, and what they are, that you've installed. 19:35 VanessaE if they're just a bunch of decorative blocks, those lower-end servers are probably okay, just. But if you've got active stuff, lots of ores, anything with ABMs, mapgen hooks, etc. you need everything you can get. 19:35 markveidemanis ok, i wanna try a free host service, if it not work, i can pay 19:35 VanessaE free hosts aren't likely going to allow you to run a server 19:36 VanessaE those are normally geared toward web services 19:36 markveidemanis i wanna try a free host 19:36 * marktraceur giggles 19:37 marktraceur markveidemanis: Good luck 19:37 markveidemanis if it wont cut it, il upgrade 19:37 VanessaE markveidemanis: good luck, but you're about to waste a lot of time I think. 19:37 markveidemanis but thats why i turn to you for links :D 19:37 markveidemanis well? 19:38 markveidemanis i wanna access it with remote desktop connection 19:38 markveidemanis and whats the equivalent of that in linux? 19:38 markveidemanis if it runs as bad as my pc, i dont care. i want it up 24/7 19:39 markveidemanis Hmmm 19:39 markveidemanis m 19:39 markveidemanis who has free room on their VPS's?? 19:39 markveidemanis lol 19:39 thexyz yay, http://minetest.net/forum/misc.php?section=pun_pm&pmpage=inbox 19:39 moltenbot thexyz's link: Forum message - Minetest Forums 19:39 Exio markveidemanis: are you going to use X11 in a server? 19:39 Exio markveidemanis: really? 19:39 markveidemanis what is x11 19:39 kaeza *facepalm* 19:40 markveidemanis who has free room on their V{S's 19:40 markveidemanis VPS's 19:40 * marktraceur smacks markveidemanis 19:40 thexyz markveidemanis: x11 is xxxxxxxxxxx 19:40 markveidemanis X11? 19:41 marktraceur markveidemanis: If you think you want to connect to a GNU/Linux server graphically, you will not be going to space today. 19:42 * markveidemanis 19:42 * markveidemanis <== He Wants A VPS 19:42 thexyz why not? ssh -X 19:43 markveidemanis ? 19:43 marktraceur thexyz: Considering that he doesn't know what X is, that will be difficult for him 19:43 markveidemanis i need a VPS and people will have spare room on their's! 19:44 iqualfragile who can help me to find the download link on this page (russian) http://bombus.jrudevels.org/ 19:44 moltenbot Masters link: Bombus || 19:44 marktraceur markveidemanis: Ask somewhere else, please. 19:44 markveidemanis Never! 19:44 thexyz iqualfragile: http://bombus.jrudevels.org/index.php?page=download 19:44 moltenbot thexyz's link: Bombus || 19:44 iqualfragile thanks 19:45 thexyz iqualfragile: or http://svn.xmpp.ru/repos/bombus/trunk/ 19:45 moltenbot thexyz's link: bombus - Revision 1442: /trunk 19:45 marktraceur markveidemanis: We've offered you ideas. You want too much power for too little money, and you have no idea how to run a server. You need a class, not one-off ideas in IRC. 19:46 iqualfragile ieks, svn 19:48 * VanessaE scrolls back and re-reads the last page of conversation that she missed...and cries a little 19:49 mauvebic works :-) http://www.zimg.eu/i/1112488132 19:52 thexyz VanessaE: faith in the world... lost? 19:53 VanessaE thexyz: years ago. I just lost a little more faith in geekdom :( 19:56 RagnarLaud hi! 20:00 OldCoder VanessaE, thexyz, mauvebic, others: hello 20:00 VanessaE hey odl 20:00 VanessaE OldCoder 20:01 thexyz OldCoder: hi 20:01 VanessaE note to self: o-d-l-Tab will not complete to "OldCoder". 20:03 mauvebic howdy 20:03 OldCoder odltab 20:03 OldCoder Good nick 20:04 OldCoder NEWS I am continuing to try to reach Anunakki to bring back Europe world. IRC mod works now! My worlds will now be wired for IRC. Avatar added for Dogzilla sister. Somebody else wanted avatars uploaded; tell me. VanessaE update coming shortly. More changes are queued. 20:11 davidpace VanessaE. I am here to say that the Suicide Booth on your server is a successful minetest crasher! Good Day! 20:11 davidpace ;) 20:11 VanessaE lol 20:11 VanessaE celeron55: feel like fixing a really hard bug? :-) 20:11 davidpace Haha 20:12 davidpace It was fun for the 0.2 seconds I was on that fun ride! 20:13 kizeren david.....thanks for the short lived fun :) 20:15 davidpace_ No problem kizeren! :-) 20:15 thexyz VanessaE: feel like reporting it? 20:15 VanessaE thexyz: *shrug* 20:16 davidpace_ I have a question, Who is in charge of the minetest wiki? 20:16 VanessaE the person who first experienced that crash should 20:16 thexyz davidpace_: which one? 20:17 davidpace_ Wtf? It finally registers that I left and came back? lol 20:17 VanessaE thexyz: besides which, the smiley should have been a good indicator that I was kidding. 20:18 davidpace This wiki: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki 20:22 thexyz davidpace: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:Admin 20:22 davidpace Who is Saxony???? O_o 20:36 OldCoder NEWS U.S. Worlds will shut down for a bit of work 20:36 OldCoder Does anybody have mod requests? 20:36 OldCoder And who wanted the avatars uploaded? 20:45 kasutaja hi 20:45 kasutaja woops 20:45 thexyz hi 20:52 OldCoder Somebody wanted up to upload new skins. If anybody can clarify this let me know. 20:52 OldCoder Also indicate new mod or world updates 20:52 OldCoder Now is the time 20:55 thexyz kasutaja: bai 21:09 OldCoder markveidemanis, I will comment in a bit 21:17 OldCoder mauvebic, I wish to discuss your world later. I am working on all of them. 21:17 mauvebic okiedokie 21:17 OldCoder Folks, the worlds will return in a few hours. Please signal me regarding new mods you wish updated or added. Also skins to upload. 21:17 OldCoder It is really easier on me to make all these changes at once. 21:18 OldCoder I will do an errand now and return. Nice to see you! 21:18 OldCoder o/ 21:18 * OldCoder will be back in a little while 21:18 mauvebic ill be here :-) 21:18 OldCoder k 21:20 markveidemanis msg from oldcoder.... 21:20 markveidemanis make links 21:20 markveidemanis upliad files 21:21 markveidemanis to make things faster 21:21 mauvebic upliad what? 21:21 markveidemanis skins 21:21 mauvebic im not the skin guy lol 21:22 markveidemanis ok 21:22 mauvebic faster +1 21:22 markveidemanis i am on phone so i not good type 21:22 markveidemanis plusone 21:34 markveidemanis ui 21:45 markveidemanis im going to sleep Cya 21:45 ecube bye 21:53 Obiewan1111 If anyone here was interested in competing in my Quick Build Challenge, I'm building the arena now, and an update was posted on the forum post earlier. I'll need people to compete against me.. 21:56 Obiewan1111 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4076 21:56 moltenbot Obiewan1111's link: Minetest Quick Build Challenge [VanessaE's Server] (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums 21:57 kaeza Obiewan1111: hi 21:57 Obiewan1111 Need to make some updates on the original post. 21:57 Obiewan1111 How to you pm? Bit new to irc. 21:57 VanessaE /msg someone some message here 22:01 M13 VanessaE 22:03 VanessaE hm? 22:13 davidpace Hi Again.... 22:14 kaeza hi davidpace 22:14 Obiewan1111 Yo. 22:18 Obiewan1111 Vanessa, someone on your server is asking for interact privs. 22:18 VanessaE tell him to post on the forum thread first. 22:20 Obiewan1111 Told him. 22:20 VanessaE k 22:20 Obiewan1111 He's foreign and it took some explaining, but I got there. 22:20 * VanessaE is busy testing an update to conifers to use plantlife lib 22:32 * john_cephalopoda is taking sources from the pull requests on github to configure his minetest version. 22:35 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60331#p60331 22:35 VanessaE \o/ 22:38 VanessaE hey redcrab. 22:43 OldCoder Hi 22:45 VanessaE no one cares? :( 22:48 OldCoder VanessaE, people care! 22:48 Muadtralk they do 22:48 OldCoder VanessaE, what are we discussing> 22:48 OldCoder ? 22:48 Muadtralk but that mod always hurt people 22:48 VanessaE OldCoder: I updated conifers :-) 22:48 OldCoder Is it safe? 22:48 OldCoder What does Muadtralk mean? 22:49 OldCoder Are the pine needles too pointy? 22:49 OldCoder Speak 22:49 Muadtralk theres an issue in the spawning 22:49 OldCoder Ah 22:49 OldCoder Spahwning 22:49 Muadtralk i caused mayhem 22:49 VanessaE I've been running it on my server for weeks now, this update is live too, for about an hour. should be safe. plantlife got a small update to allow for it 22:49 Muadtralk it* 22:49 VanessaE Muadtralk: not anymore there isn't. 22:49 VanessaE I brought it under control. 22:49 Muadtralk hmmm 22:49 Muadtralk okay then 22:49 Muadtralk maybe it was just cause i turned them into jungletree's 22:50 Muadtralk :P 22:50 OldCoder What do conifers do 22:50 OldCoder ? 22:50 OldCoder And does anybody have other mods or skins they wish me to use? 22:50 VanessaE OldCoder: really tall pine/cedar trees 22:50 OldCoder Are they nice? Without price? Trees no longer on ice? Does this suffice? 22:51 * OldCoder listens 22:51 * OldCoder does not even hear crickets 22:51 VanessaE heh 22:52 VanessaE well I limited them via perlin noise, and also the grass they spawn on must have at least three grass neighbors, and as cisoun originally programmed, they must be 25+ meters above sea level to spawn 22:52 VanessaE and their distance from one another has been slightly randomized as well to reduce patterns that sometimes appear. 22:52 OldCoder So they are good? 22:53 VanessaE and my fork uses way less CPU than the original :-) 22:53 OldCoder Conifericious? 22:53 VanessaE yeah, they're good. 22:53 OldCoder They are nice trees? 22:53 OldCoder Then geez 22:53 OldCoder We shall add them. Link? 22:54 jojoa1997 HOLA 22:54 OldCoder jojoa1997, que tal 22:54 OldCoder Quetzlcoatl 22:55 VanessaE OldCoder: see above :-) 22:55 jojoa1997 pmas o menos 22:55 jojoa1997 es menos corecto 22:55 OldCoder jojoa1997, you mean mas o menos I assume 22:55 jojoa1997 yeah 22:55 jojoa1997 i am on my second year of spanish 22:56 sapier1 is there some way to do something on_chunk_load? 22:56 OldCoder VanessaE, I am preoccupied; multiple windows. Any chance of a link? 22:56 OldCoder jojoa1997, muy bien 22:56 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60331#p60331 22:56 jojoa1997 and am forgeting some first year stuff 22:56 OldCoder VanessaE, ty 22:56 jojoa1997 y tú 22:56 sapier1 i ask because having spawning abm's is heavy load and perlin ain't quite suited for non static entities 22:56 OldCoder gracias 22:58 jojoa1997 yay my recipe is winning go vote for option 1 now http://strawpoll.me/5909/ 22:58 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Straw Poll 22:58 jojoa1997 here are the results so far http://strawpoll.me/5909/r 22:58 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: Straw Poll 22:58 sapier1 so i added spawner entities ... but those would need to be updated if world is changed by player ... fixing existing ones ain't a problem but adding new ones where world now matches their reqirements is difficult 22:59 jojoa1997 OldCoder: I dont know what mythical gems to add to my mod http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4214 22:59 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: [Mod] Display Blocks [1.3] [display_blocks] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 22:59 jojoa1997 do you have any ideas 23:00 jojoa1997 what do you think about having a fire one that doesnt burn of course 23:02 jojoa1997 simple look 23:02 jojoa1997 ine sec 23:02 jojoa1997 one 23:02 OldCoder jojoa1997, R 23:02 OldCoder Reviewing 23:03 jojoa1997 this is the code 23:03 jojoa1997 minetest.register_craft({ 23:03 jojoa1997 type = "fuel", 23:03 jojoa1997 recipe = "group:tree", 23:03 jojoa1997 burntime = 30, 23:03 jojoa1997 }) 23:03 OldCoder jojoa1997, I am no expert on mythical gems but the mod looks fun 23:04 jojoa1997 thanks i just need a random name with a base color to it 23:04 jojoa1997 oh one sec 23:05 sapier1 @marktraceur is GFDL gplv3 compatible? If not still couldn't relicense mobf because of sounds used for some mobs 23:05 jojoa1997 i like the papyrus idea cause it allows you to also make wool in the desert 23:05 jojoa1997 with the dry shrubs 23:06 jojoa1997 about the code i pasted earlier just change the burn time to 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 23:08 jojoa1997 oh 23:08 jojoa1997 idk 23:13 Exio btw, anyone familiar with minetest code? 23:14 Exio i need an 'explain' about the direction value in camera, because i don't get how 'X' and 'Z' works 23:18 babyface1031 hi everyone how everyone been 23:18 VanessaE in the game, X and Z are E/W and N/S directions, while Y is up/down 23:18 VanessaE -X is west, -Z is south. 23:18 VanessaE if I remember right :-) 23:18 VanessaE hi babyface1031 23:20 babyface1031 hi VanessaE 23:21 Exio VanessaE: oh 23:21 jojoa1997 what should the shape of the fire gem be 23:21 Exio i think i get the point 23:21 sapier1 but direction is radians 23:21 Exio jojoa1997: lava bucket + something? :P 23:21 VanessaE sapier1: you mean yaw? 23:21 jojoa1997 shape not recipe 23:21 Exio ah 23:21 sapier1 yes aren't you speaking about yaw? 23:22 Exio the direction in the code are 3 numbers between -1 to 1 23:22 VanessaE Ah, you're talking about node-relative coords. 23:22 OldCoder Does anybody have more mods or skins they wish? 23:22 sapier1 I'd need some mob/animal meshes ;) 23:23 Exio skins? is possible to have per user 'skins'? 23:23 VanessaE player_textures mod. 23:23 Exio VanessaE: any ideas? 23:23 Exio *about the direction thing* 23:23 VanessaE Exio: I'm a little confused now. better defer to sapier :-) 23:23 sapier1 lua or c++ ? {x,y,z} 23:23 Exio C++ 23:23 sapier1 ok 23:24 babyface1031 hi OldCoder 23:24 sapier1 different "namespace" :-) 23:24 Exio i'm checking the direction value in the line 87 of clientmap.h 23:25 babyface1031 i havent been on in awhile do we have industral mod? 23:25 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi! 23:25 VanessaE industrial mod? What would it do? 23:25 OldCoder babyface1031, glad to see you!! 23:26 OldCoder Exio, VanessaE No 23:26 OldCoder Use the skins mod 23:26 sapier1 its a 3d vector 23:26 jojoa1997 how are these OldCoder http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZuOQ/display_blocks_fire_crystal.png 23:26 OldCoder Then you can have 2D and 3D both 23:26 babyface1031 ty alot been going on i am glad things are calming down at home where i can play again 23:26 OldCoder jojoa1997, R 23:26 sapier1 direction is 0,0,0 to x,y,z of dir value 23:26 OldCoder babyface1031, I am updating 23:26 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZuYQ/display_blocks_fire_block.png 23:26 OldCoder It will be good 23:26 VanessaE jojoa1997: not bad. 23:26 babyface1031 i will get the link VanessaE 23:26 OldCoder Nice 23:26 jojoa1997 how is the crystal 23:26 OldCoder babyface1031, there will be an IRC channel for the world now 23:27 OldCoder jojoa1997, From what I can see, good 23:27 jojoa1997 is it to bold 23:27 OldCoder can't tell in my browser 23:27 babyface1031 oh there is cool 23:27 jojoa1997 i am thinking about doing all the elements 23:27 OldCoder jojoa1997, By all means 23:27 Exio noone knows? grr 23:28 OldCoder Exio, Read above 23:28 OldCoder Exio, what is your question? 23:28 OldCoder Ah 23:28 OldCoder C++ issue? 23:28 Exio yep 23:28 Exio i was rewriting it :P 23:28 Exio *the question* 23:29 sapier1 @exio I've just told you direction is a 3d vector 23:29 Exio hm 23:29 babyface1031 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 here it is VanessaE 23:29 moltenbot babyface1031's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 23:29 sapier1 mention an arrow pointing from 0,0,0 to x,y,z while x,y,z are values in dir 23:30 Exio ok 23:30 jojoa1997 what is the name for lava bucket 23:30 Exio thanks, i will check 23:30 jojoa1997 like default:buckect 23:30 VanessaE jojoa1997: bucket:bucket_lava 23:30 jojoa1997 oh thanks 23:30 VanessaE I think 23:30 jojoa1997 well we will see 23:31 jojoa1997 {'', 'default:mese_crystal_fragment', ''}, {'bucket:bucket_lava', 'default:glass', 'bucket:bucket_lava'}, {'', 'bucket:bucket_lava', ''}, 23:31 jojoa1997 that is the recipe 23:31 jojoa1997 what should take the place of glass 23:31 VanessaE use a while mese crystal for that one :-) 23:31 VanessaE instead of a fragment 23:31 VanessaE keep the glass 23:32 Exio btw, why not a way to craft mese crytals out of mese fragments? 23:32 jojoa1997 how about switch glass with bucket 23:32 Exio so you can make fragmet a drop of a mob 23:32 VanessaE because there's no crystal I've ever heard of, fictional or real, that could be turned back into a whole crystal by using its pieces. 23:32 Exio fragment* 23:33 VanessaE except for the movie "The Dark Crystal" 23:33 Exio hahaha 23:34 jojoa1997 to make it give 5 blocks would i use this 23:34 jojoa1997 output = 'display_blocks:mese_base 5', 23:34 VanessaE yes 23:34 VanessaE but, 23:34 VanessaE for the actual fire gem, yield only 1. 23:34 VanessaE such a crystal should be expensive. 23:35 jojoa1997 there is no gem that you can get it is just a display 23:35 jojoa1997 the gem goes on top of the base 23:35 jojoa1997 the base spawns the undiggable gem 23:36 VanessaE oh ok 23:36 VanessaE still such a recipe should be very expensive. 23:37 VanessaE three lava buckets, the glass, the mese crystal.. something's missing though 23:37 jojoa1997 i figured out how to make the gem go away after the base is gone and took your advice and made gems undiggable 23:37 jojoa1997 one sec can you look at all my recipes 23:38 jojoa1997 here is the init download http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZuaQ]http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZuaQ 23:38 jojoa1997 or the code itself 23:39 jojoa1997 really the glass and fire displays are the weak recipes 23:41 jojoa1997 any ideas 23:43 babyface1031 what is this new mese i am hearing about where can i look it up? 23:43 jojoa1997 it is in the default you just have to download it 23:43 thexyz babyface1031: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game 23:43 moltenbot thexyz's link: celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 23:51 jojoa1997 how are these for air 23:51 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZubA/display_blocks_air_crystal.png 23:52 jojoa1997 try zooming in 23:52 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vZ3ZubQ][img]http://ompldr.org/tZ3ZubQ 23:52 jojoa1997 lol it looks like it has filters on