Time  Nick             Message
00:00 JesseH           Oh, I was thinking that was some homebrew function he made to check hp, was wondering why it was odd
00:00 jojoa1997            8
00:00 jojoa1997        is this right 	self.object:get_hp = 20
00:00 kaeza            no
00:00 kaeza            nonono
00:00 Muadtralk        hello!
00:00 aldobr2          nops
00:00 Muadtralk        0.4.4 stable i believe
00:00 Exio             > get data
00:00 JesseH           Can someone tell me the answer to this "What is the previous stable version of Minetest? (N.N) "
00:00 NekoGloop        RE: what's the latest windows build
00:00 jojoa1997        and NekoGloop: 8
00:00 Exio             > =
00:00 Muadtralk        not much has changed
00:00 JesseH           So I can register on the forums.
00:00 aldobr2          0.4.3
00:00 jojoa1997        oh i thought you meant windows os
00:00 JesseH           0.5 then?
00:01 Muadtralk        aldobr2
00:01 JesseH           opps
00:01 JesseH               0.4
00:01 Muadtralk        your late
00:01 jojoa1997        " is this right self.object:get_hp = 20" then how do i set hp
00:01 aldobr2          jojoa1997 : you probably want to do something like self:set_hp(20)
00:01 jojoa1997        in the loop?
00:02 aldobr2          (its there a set_hp function ?)
00:02 aldobr2          in the line 126
00:02 jojoa1997        self.object:get_hp() = 20
00:02 aldobr2          write that to your mind, you cannot assign a value to a function call
00:02 NekoGloop        your code is broken already
00:02 aldobr2          never
00:02 aldobr2          if it ends with () its a function call, you cannot assign value to it
00:02 NekoGloop        it's "if self.object:get_hp() == 20"
00:02 aldobr2          (formally, it cannot be on the left side of an assignment)
00:02 jojoa1997        i did not write it
00:02 iqualfragile     PilzAdam: na, on a per player basis, so every player can get into pvp mode and fight others or stay peacefull and not getting harmed
00:02 jojoa1997        i only edited it
00:03 aldobr2          function calls can only be on the right side of an assignment
00:03 aldobr2          let me check object ref
00:03 PilzAdam         iqualfragile, so if you are loosing you just turn pvp off and the other cant give you the final hit?
00:04 aldobr2          jojoa1997 change the line to self.set_hp(20)
00:04 aldobr2          or self:set_hp(20)
00:04 aldobr2          hm
00:04 iqualfragile     PilzAdam: you could just make one unable to turn off pvp a hit was recived less than 20 sec ago
00:04 aldobr2          its self.object:set_hp(20)
00:04 aldobr2          :D
00:05 aldobr2          omg
00:05 kaeza            anyone here uses windows and is abit free to do some testing?
00:05 aldobr2          its doing collision detection in lua
00:05 jojoa1997        yay no more errors FOR THAT
00:05 aldobr2          its there a true reason for that ?
00:05 aldobr2          isnt the engine doing collision detection already ?
00:05 jojoa1997        add_item:(self.object:getpos(), "deafult:mese_crystal")
00:05 jojoa1997        lua: init.lua:418: '<name>' expected near '('
00:06 jojoa1997        do i make it add_item:(self.object:getpos, "deafult:mese_crystal")
00:06 aldobr2          hm
00:07 aldobr2          use that code to drop arbitrary objects
00:07 aldobr2          http://pastebin.com/fCgan9Xv
00:07 moltenbot        aldobr2's link: [Lua] drop item - Pastebin.com
00:08 JesseH           Zephyrus1497, Taking too long to download the media, so I canceld.
00:08 aldobr2          ops
00:08 jojoa1997        when i change it it still has the error
00:08 aldobr2          change the function name
00:08 aldobr2          add_item:( <-doesnt make sense
00:08 aldobr2          : or . is used to reference a member
00:08 jojoa1997        where do i put this http://pastebin.com/fCgan9Xv
00:08 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: [Lua] drop item - Pastebin.com
00:09 jojoa1997        i want to make the npcs drop a mese crystasl when i kill them
00:09 JesseH           I wanna play, who has a server hehe
00:09 aldobr2          let me see your code again
00:09 aldobr2          JesseH use redcrab's server
00:09 aldobr2          i play there
00:09 jojoa1997        drop_item:(self.object:getpos, "deafult:mese_crystal")
00:09 aldobr2          174.129.196.242
00:09 JesseH           kk
00:10 aldobr2          port 30401
00:10 aldobr2          drop_item:( makes no sense
00:10 aldobr2          show me your code again
00:10 aldobr2          omg
00:10 aldobr2          i will fix that thing
00:10 aldobr2          send me a zip containing all files for the mod
00:10 JesseH           Im on
00:11 jojoa1997        one sec
00:11 aldobr2          JesseH press T to talk in game
00:11 aldobr2          press T and then type /setemail your@email.com
00:11 jojoa1997        i need to give you a semi fixed version
00:11 jojoa1997        aldobr2 my mod
00:12 aldobr2          JesseH then check your email account
00:12 kaeza            what's the easiest way to get the position of an arbitrary player?
00:12 aldobr2          kaeza
00:13 kaeza            yes?
00:13 jojoa1997        how do i set what it drops http://pastebin.com/fCgan9Xv
00:13 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: [Lua] drop item - Pastebin.com
00:13 JesseH           were are you aldobr2
00:13 aldobr2          kaeza iterate the object list ?
00:14 aldobr2          JesseH i am not online now
00:14 kaeza            I thought so
00:14 JesseH           oh, because idk what to do haha
00:14 aldobr2          well
00:14 aldobr2          redcrab use area protection
00:14 aldobr2          so you will spawn in an area where you cant build (spawn city)
00:14 kaeza            for _,obj in minetest.find_objects_in_range(...) do if(obj:is_player()) ...
00:14 kaeza            is that right?
00:15 aldobr2          dunno
00:15 aldobr2          i believe you know better than me
00:15 NekoGloop        can I get a TL;DR of the conversation?
00:15 aldobr2          looks about right
00:15 kaeza            hmm
00:15 kaeza            have to test
00:15 * kaeza          expects a server crash soon
00:15 aldobr2          JesseH so you find unclaimed area to dig
00:15 aldobr2          1st : get wood
00:16 aldobr2          2nd : craft wood planks
00:16 aldobr2          3rd : craft sticks
00:16 aldobr2          4 : make a wooden pickaxe
00:16 aldobr2          dig
00:16 aldobr2          for cobble
00:16 aldobr2          etc
00:16 JesseH           Oh, cool
00:16 aldobr2          do you know minecraft ?
00:16 JesseH           I do :P
00:16 aldobr2          its about the same
00:16 aldobr2          ok, then you dont need that explanation
00:16 Zephyrus1497     JessH wat server r u on?
00:16 aldobr2          :P
00:17 JesseH           Zephyrus1497, 174.129.196.242
00:17 JesseH           lets party up Zephyrus1497
00:17 Zephyrus1497     wats the port?
00:17 JesseH           30401
00:17 kaeza            hmm seems no one cared about my fix to add texture transforms to the lua api
00:17 kaeza            :(
00:18 iqualfragile     NekoGloop: its called summary not tl;dr
00:21 JesseH           anyway to make the screen bigger
00:22 aldobr2          maximize it
00:23 JesseH           :/
00:23 aldobr2          :P
00:23 JesseH           I knew that
00:23 JesseH           :D
00:23 JesseH           When are you getting on
00:23 aldobr2          dont know why fullscreen wasnt implemented
00:23 aldobr2          not now
00:23 aldobr2          i am writing code
00:23 JesseH           :C
00:23 aldobr2          for a telephone
00:23 aldobr2          a telephone booth on minetest
00:23 aldobr2          :D
00:23 NekoGloop        it is implemented
00:24 JesseH           I imagine I will be writing plenty of code too, but I feel like playing atm
00:24 Renoki           lazy.
00:24 aldobr2          my internet is laggy atm
00:24 Renoki           j/k
00:24 aldobr2          actually
00:24 aldobr2          i am not laggy
00:24 aldobr2          the problem is that i am using wireless
00:24 aldobr2          and minetest hates lost packets
00:24 aldobr2          and wireless loses a lot of packets
00:24 aldobr2          so i only play at night when the spectrum is clear
00:25 JesseH           :P
00:25 JesseH           It is night for me.,
00:25 aldobr2          i mean, late at night
00:25 aldobr2          like 1am
00:25 JesseH           Oh, well I might start on a mod or something about that time :P
00:25 JesseH           Late is when I get coding done.
00:26 aldobr2          omg
00:26 aldobr2          github is on maintenance
00:26 aldobr2          :/
00:26 JesseH           :O
00:26 JesseH           End of the world
00:26 NekoGloop        that was yesterday
00:27 NekoGloop        And you're in heaven unknowingly, playing on a computer
00:27 aldobr2          the 2k12 mayan bug
00:27 aldobr2          luckly the universe was done in pearl, not in mayan language
00:27 mauvebic         if i was in heaven my wife would be in the kitchen for the first time :p
00:27 aldobr2          so everything went fine
00:27 aldobr2          :D
00:28 mauvebic         without setting anything on fire... :p
00:28 NekoGloop        the universe was done in LUA
00:28 NekoGloop        That's why there's so many flaws
00:28 aldobr2          whats wrong with lua ?
00:28 aldobr2          :(
00:29 mauvebic         for i = life,forever_alone, do ... end ?
00:29 aldobr2          i find lua quite a nice language
00:29 mauvebic         for the do ... end bit you can do:
00:29 aldobr2          i am not very partisan towards duck typing but...
00:29 mauvebic         britney_spears() ... adds 1-2gbs
00:29 aldobr2          its nice
00:30 mauvebic         :P
00:30 mauvebic         lua is nice
00:30 aldobr2          i first learned javascript, then lua
00:30 OldCoder         Lua is quite interesting
00:30 aldobr2          for me its almost the same language with different names
00:30 OldCoder         Really small
00:31 aldobr2          all those languages are derived from a language known as self
00:31 OldCoder         Remind me to bring the Masked Lua here sometime :-)
00:32 aldobr2          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_%28programming_language%29
00:32 moltenbot        aldobr2's link: Self (programming language) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
00:32 mauvebic         me in order (whatever type of language) basic -> html (+css, javacript) -> perl -> php ...etc.. lol
00:32 PilzAdam         cisoun, you are the creator of the default texture pack, right?
00:32 aldobr2          In 2006, Self was still being developed as part of the Klein project, which was a Self virtual machine written fully in Self. <- this is quite confusing
00:32 mauvebic         i havent done any php in 10 years tho
00:32 mauvebic         so there was obviously long periods in between :p
00:33 mauvebic         i tried to learn java several times over the years
00:33 mauvebic         sold alot books cheap too lol
00:33 PilzAdam         mauvebic, HTML is not a programming language
00:34 iqualfragile1    aldobr2: its ever more confusing fhen you allso speak german
00:34 mauvebic         its a type of language
00:34 iqualfragile1    klein means litle
00:34 mauvebic         and its where alot of people start
00:34 PilzAdam         marktraceur, its a *markup* language
00:34 mauvebic         so?
00:34 PilzAdam         thats a huge difference
00:35 mauvebic         its a gateway language to other languages so thats obviously not bad :p
00:35 PilzAdam         ever seen a for-loop in HTML?
00:35 aldobr2          html is not (formally) a programming language, but it is a language, a description language
00:35 mauvebic         why would anyone do that? lol
00:35 aldobr2          to be a programming language it needs to be turing complete
00:35 mauvebic         html like css is a formatting language
00:35 aldobr2          but a description language dont need to be turing complete
00:36 mauvebic         idc if its a formatting, dynamic, or compiled language, whenever theres a particular syntax in play, i consider it a languag
00:36 PilzAdam         mauvebic, every nerd on earth will kill you if you tell him that HTML is a programming language
00:36 aldobr2          so, html is a description language
00:36 aldobr2          yes
00:36 aldobr2          if theres a grammar, its a language
00:36 mauvebic         call it how you will :p
00:36 mauvebic         most people start w/ that
00:36 PilzAdam         I call it markup language
00:37 PilzAdam         (guess what the ML in HTML means)
00:37 kaeza            I need a bit of help
00:37 mauvebic         markup language - markup = language
00:37 kaeza            I got this error:  ServerError: LuaError: error: .../diego/.minetest/games/testing/mods/irc/callback.lua:60: bad argument #-2 to 'get_objects_inside_radius' (number expected, got nil)
00:37 aldobr2          perl joke : if perl pass up as a language, anything can be a language too
00:37 kaeza            here's the relevant code: http://pastebin.com/pPVyvreC
00:37 moltenbot        kaeza's link: [Lua] local list = minetest.env:get_objects_inside_radius({0,0,0}, 100000);  for _, ob - Pastebin.com
00:37 mauvebic         the radius variable isnt set
00:38 PilzAdam         kaeza, wtf is that ";" at the end of the line?
00:39 PilzAdam         this isnt C or Java
00:39 aldobr2          :P
00:39 kaeza            PilzAdam: I like to add ';'
00:39 kaeza            and Lua supports it
00:39 PilzAdam         also if () then
00:39 PilzAdam         you dont need the brackets
00:39 mauvebic         ; == php :p
00:40 kaeza            I know
00:40 kaeza            It makes it easier to read
00:40 PilzAdam         no, it doesnt
00:40 kaeza            areyoukiddingme.jpg
00:40 NekoGloop        ; == C, C++, java, all bad programming languages
00:40 aldobr2          NekoGloop why ?
00:41 Jakssoul         Hola amigos!
00:41 PilzAdam         kaeza, you should use the standard syntax for a programming language
00:41 kaeza            anyway nvm the formatting
00:41 kaeza            any clue on the error?
00:41 PilzAdam         and not try to use the one from others
00:41 Jakssoul         Noooopeee!
00:41 kaeza            that is MY style; not from others
00:41 Jakssoul         I installed Xubuntu. Guessss what!?
00:42 kaeza            Jakssoul: hablas español???
00:42 Jakssoul         It doesn't like my Broadcom wireless card.
00:42 PilzAdam         kaeza, maybe the number is too large
00:42 Jakssoul         Yo hablo espanol, si.
00:42 NekoGloop        Linux == your hardware -will- fail
00:42 kaeza            PilzAdam: apparently misc.lua uses that also and the number is much bigger
00:42 PilzAdam         dunno
00:42 PilzAdam         oh, wait
00:42 kaeza            ohhhh
00:42 kaeza            crap
00:42 Jakssoul         Apparently Broadcom is the only chipset for Wireless that *ubuntu doesn't like.
00:42 kaeza            yes
00:42 PilzAdam         {x=0, y=0, z=0}
00:43 kaeza            I noticed now
00:43 kaeza            thanks PilzAdam
00:43 PilzAdam         no problem
00:44 Jakssoul         How's the Minetest going, guys? Sure wish Linux wasn't being a jerk so I could enjoy it too. xD Hahaha.
00:44 PilzAdam         damn, GitHub is "down for maintenance"
00:44 kaeza            wot?
00:44 NekoGloop        well at least github now admits they have a problem
00:44 kaeza            fck
00:44 kaeza            and I was going to do a git push right now :(
00:44 aldobr2          they are running fsck :D
00:45 aldobr2          init 3
00:45 OldCoder         Jakssoul, It is Broadcom that does not like Linux. But that may change.
00:45 aldobr2          fsck /dev/as0d1
00:45 OldCoder         Jakssoul, use fwcutter to solve the problem
00:45 aldobr2          :D
00:45 kaeza            aldobr2: ...
00:45 aldobr2          :}
00:45 * kaeza          is not amused
00:46 aldobr2          i dont like github
00:46 aldobr2          i use svn instead
00:46 aldobr2          on googlecode
00:46 aldobr2          dont understand the need for yet another version control system
00:46 Exio             OldCoder: ubuntu now uses wl, the 'closed' driver, not the free *included in the kernel* + the closed firmware
00:47 kaeza            I don't understand the need for 46896128345892534 different linux distros, but oh well, everyone has their tastes
00:47 Exio             well, at least it used wl here and in some other laptops
00:47 Jakssoul         So basically, I'm just out of luck?
00:47 NekoGloop        So basically, you shouldnt use Linux.
00:47 Exio             why not NekoGloop?
00:47 OldCoder         Exio, all right
00:47 Jakssoul         Then what do you recommend?
00:48 Jakssoul         If you say Windows, I'll cry.
00:48 Jakssoul         xD
00:48 NekoGloop        Use DOS
00:48 jordan4ibanez    Use bsd
00:48 OldCoder         kaeza, Same as different MT worlds. Everyone says theirs is the best. I like *MY* distro the best :-)
00:48 jordan4ibanez    pcbsd
00:48 aldobr2          you dont need to be a hacker to use linux :/
00:48 kaeza            OldCoder: yeah!!
00:48 kaeza            \o/
00:48 NekoGloop        yeah you have to be, aldobr2
00:48 aldobr2          nope
00:48 NekoGloop        in order to make it work, anyway
00:48 Jakssoul         I don't think I could use DOS.
00:48 aldobr2          thats an elitist attitude
00:48 PilzAdam         gtg; bye
00:48 OldCoder         Somebody unbanned jordan4ibanez? Fine. I trust they passed a warning on to him.
00:48 Exio             bye PilzAdam
00:48 OldCoder         Not unbanned; excuse me. Revoiced.
00:49 Exio             'revoiced'? unquieted?
00:49 NekoGloop        what the hell did he do to be muted
00:49 OldCoder         Yes
00:49 jordan4ibanez    Oh oldcoder, i forgot to remute you on my client, whoopsies
00:49 OldCoder         NekoGloop, not important ATM
00:49 jordan4ibanez    I called oldcoder out
00:49 jordan4ibanez    Said he shouldn't be op, the normal stuff
00:49 OldCoder         Heh
00:49 OldCoder         Ops have fewer rights than members
00:50 OldCoder         Let's be clear about that
00:50 Jakssoul         I just died laughing.
00:50 NekoGloop        So here is the example of the Third Alice
00:50 OldCoder         It's a core principle of mine
00:50 Jakssoul         That was wonderful.
00:50 OldCoder         Kind of a headache really
00:50 OldCoder         To have principles
00:50 * OldCoder       chuckles
00:50 NekoGloop        OldCoder: stop being a dick, we like you only because you are fair
00:50 OldCoder         NekoGloop, you like me? Good
00:50 OldCoder         Fair is right
00:50 Exio             he loves you*
00:50 OldCoder         It is the way things should be
00:50 Jakssoul         So, anybody have any recommendations for something not crazy for me to use as an OS? (Not Windows, Mac, or DOS)
00:51 OldCoder         Jakssoul, Indicate your priorities
00:51 aldobr2          Jakssoul try opensuse (i love opensuse)
00:51 OldCoder         What matters to you in an OS
00:51 kaeza            Jakssoul: Puppy Linux
00:51 OldCoder         Wait... let's hear what he looks for
00:51 NekoGloop        OldCoder: Stop being the third alice...
00:51 OldCoder         NekoGloop, O.K. BTW I am glad to see you well.
00:51 * VanessaE       peeks in, puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head, and hides
00:51 VanessaE         hi all ;-)
00:51 kaeza            hey hey V
00:51 OldCoder         Jakssoul, tell us what you have tried before again
00:51 OldCoder         VanessaE, Hi!
00:51 OldCoder         And nobody bash any OS...
00:51 Jakssoul         I'd like to play Minetest, use Skype, and simple internet browsing. Preferably open source, because I want to learn a whole lot more about what I'm using and be able to maybe make some applications for it.
00:52 aldobr2          upensuse is usually quite easy to install and use
00:52 VanessaE         thexyz: of course you can't - you can't see the page right now anyway, github is down :-)
00:52 * NekoGloop      throws the kitten at OldCoder
00:52 OldCoder         Jakssoul, here is a fair suggestion. Try some LiveCDs
00:52 NekoGloop        VanessaE: thanks for the ammo
00:52 VanessaE         lol
00:52 * OldCoder       plucks kitten out of air and sets it down gently
00:52 aldobr2          yast can solve almost all problems by itself
00:52 Jakssoul         I have used Windows (CRAP), can't afford Mac crap, Puppy linux, all of the major *ubuntus, uhmm... Slax, Slitaz...
00:52 OldCoder         Jakssoul, Linux Mint?
00:52 aldobr2          Jakssoul like i said, try opensuse
00:53 * aldobr2        is on the RPM side of the holy war
00:53 NekoGloop        I've tried Windows and Ubuntu. Only windows loads.
00:53 OldCoder         Jakssoul, here is a deal... I will make a distro for people here
00:53 Jakssoul         Opensuse doesn't look like it really has what I need. Linux Mint? I thought about it. Is it really any good?
00:53 NekoGloop        So which is better?
00:53 OldCoder         What shall it be called?
00:53 OldCoder         Nekosoul
00:53 OldCoder         How about that?
00:53 VanessaE         Jakssoul: Mint is good
00:53 OldCoder         What should be in the distro? I will actually make one
00:53 VanessaE         it's basically Ubuntu with some goodies added
00:53 Jakssoul         Do you think it will play nice with my Broadcom wireless card?
00:53 OldCoder         How about a 3" CD that fits in your shirt pocket and runs MT?
00:53 OldCoder         Jakssoul, Yes
00:54 OldCoder         I can support Broadcom
00:54 OldCoder         So can Mint I think
00:54 Jakssoul         Oh, and VanessaE, thank you for the instructions on installing Xubuntu! It worked.
00:54 kaeza            OldCoder: It should be both lightweight and filled with features at the same time IMHO
00:54 JesseH           OldCoder, You are going to make a linux distro?
00:54 OldCoder         Of course!
00:54 Jakssoul         But it doesn't like my wireless card.
00:54 kaeza            that's why I loved Puppy
00:54 OldCoder         JesseH, I have for 15 years
00:54 OldCoder         I will make a new MT distro too
00:54 JesseH           Really?
00:54 JesseH           Can I try it out?
00:54 OldCoder         Sure
00:54 OldCoder         Hold on
00:54 Jakssoul         KAEZA! Puppy doesn't like Minetest!
00:54 VanessaE         Jakssoul: excellent!
00:55 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ssdistrogames.html
00:55 moltenbot        OldCoder's link: Distro screenshots: Games
00:55 aldobr2          Jakssoul i advise you to use opensuse
00:55 Jakssoul         That was my original goal, if you remember. That's why I'm in #minetest.
00:55 OldCoder         JesseH, most people have seen that
00:55 OldCoder         But you have not; therefore, there are my games
00:55 kaeza            Jakssoul: yes I remember
00:55 Jakssoul         aldobr2: Opensuse doesn't seem functional enough from what I have seen in reviews.
00:55 * kaeza          has bad memory
00:55 OldCoder         I can make a 3" minicd that works anywhere and runs MT 0.4.4 client server
00:55 aldobr2          Jakssoul explain, what you mean by functional ?
00:55 VanessaE         Jakssoul: since you've got Ubuntu under the hood now, you may as well stick with it.  It's well-supported, easy to use, and generally "just works".
00:55 aldobr2          http://www.opensuse.org/pt-br/
00:55 moltenbot        aldobr2's link: openSUSE.org
00:56 Jakssoul         Vanessae: That
00:56 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ssdistromedia.html
00:56 moltenbot        OldCoder's link: Distro screenshots: Multimedia
00:56 JesseH           OldCoder, What is the point of the distro, is it's aim to better anything?
00:56 Jakssoul         Sorry. That's not going to work, it doesn't like my Broadcom Wireless Chipset.
00:56 JesseH           Also the games you made?
00:56 OldCoder         JesseH, I will link the history instead of take up channel to explain
00:56 Exio             ask in #ubuntu about it Jakssoul
00:56 OldCoder         Hold on
00:56 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/distro/distrohistory.html
00:56 moltenbot        OldCoder's link: Distro history
00:57 JesseH           I always wanted to make my own linux distro, just not until I knew why I was going to do it :P
00:57 OldCoder         JesseH answer is there
00:57 Jakssoul         Exio, it's a huge issue with everyone that has Broadcom chipsets.
00:57 OldCoder         JesseH, My story may help. Read that link above.
00:57 JesseH           kk :D
00:57 OldCoder         Sometimes things evolve
00:57 Jakssoul         But to fix it, I need a wired connection. Which is 100% unavailable.
00:57 OldCoder         Distro is for you
00:57 OldCoder         Make a distro that you like
00:57 OldCoder         That... is the perfect distro
00:58 Exio             Jakssoul: i'm using one atm
00:58 Jakssoul         Using one what?
00:59 Exio             broadcom wireless
00:59 Jakssoul         On *ubuntu?!?!?!
00:59 Jakssoul         What kind of black magic do you possess?!
00:59 Exio             01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
00:59 Jakssoul         THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE!
00:59 Exio             nope, not ubuntu, gentoo at this moment
00:59 Jakssoul         oH.
00:59 Jakssoul         Oh*. That's different.
00:59 Exio             but using vanilla
00:59 Jakssoul         Mine works with Puppy linux just fine.
00:59 Exio             different? why?
00:59 VanessaE         ugh
00:59 VanessaE         Broadcom.
01:00 VanessaE         the bane of Linux users across the globe.
01:00 Jakssoul         *ubuntu doesn't like it. I don't know why.
01:00 Exio             ah, i think you had problems everywhere :P
01:00 VanessaE         Jakssoul: probably it needs Broadcom firmware, which is non-free.
01:00 VanessaE         e.g. ndiswrapper or whatever it's called
01:00 Jakssoul         Oh no, I'm ripping off my neighbors internet using my Slacko Puppy with that wireless card right now! (kidding.) Using my own internet.
01:00 Exio             Jakssoul: lspci | grep -E '(wl|b43)'
01:00 Exio             in your ubuntu box
01:01 Jakssoul         Yeah, VanessaE, I know. I can't install it from Xubuntu because I don't have a wired connection!
01:01 Exio             VanessaE: hm? ndiswrapper is for 'using' windows drivers in linux :P
01:01 Exio             network drivers mainly, i don't know if it supports others
01:01 Jakssoul         Exio, same issue I just said for that little line of terminal code you said.
01:01 VanessaE         Exio: I know, which is commonly used to enable the use of Broadcom chipsets, or used to be.
01:02 Jakssoul         I have Xubuntu installed on my Hard Drive, and am running Slacko Puppy on my flash drive. Can I VB the Xubuntu to try to get things rolling?
01:02 Exio             i only see ndiswrapper for broadcoms in very old forums :P
01:02 Exio             before wl
01:02 OldCoder         Exio, I use fwcutter
01:02 OldCoder         For Broadcom support
01:02 OldCoder         No NDIS needed
01:02 Exio             same here
01:03 Exio             and i'm not using wl because lazyness
01:03 Jakssoul         I would use fwcutter, as all of the sources have told me to, but no tengo un connecion de internet con ethernet.
01:03 Jakssoul         Hahaha.
01:03 OldCoder         Jakssoul, people can send you pieces
01:03 Exio             Jakssoul: spanish?
01:03 VanessaE         Jakssoul: you can mount your Ubuntu partitions from puppy and then download the .deb files you need, stick them in on the Ubuntu partition, then switch back over to that OS and instlal them
01:03 VanessaE         install*
01:03 Exio             i had a .deb with the firmware *v4*
01:03 aldobr2          i hate ubuntu
01:03 VanessaE         aldobr2: wfm.
01:03 aldobr2          its against all my deeply held beliefs
01:04 Jakssoul         What do those consist of, aldobr2?
01:04 Exio             brb
01:04 Jakssoul         VanessaE, could you give me a site with more specific instructions or something?
01:04 aldobr2          i dont know how to express in english :D
01:05 Jakssoul         What language is native for you?
01:05 aldobr2          portuguese
01:05 Jakssoul         Try me.
01:05 aldobr2          hard to explain
01:05 aldobr2          i would advice you to download and try opensuse
01:05 Jakssoul         I know Latin, Italian, and Spanish. I might be able to translate some portuguese.
01:05 JesseH           OldCoder, Pretty cool stuff O.o
01:05 aldobr2          in all computers i tested, it works flawlessly right from the start
01:05 Jakssoul         I'll give OpenSuse a chance tomorrow on a Live USB installation. Okay?
01:06 aldobr2          it has a longer development time than debian/ubuntu
01:06 Jakssoul         For now, I want to try to get Xubuntu working with my wireless card.
01:06 kaeza            VanessaE: does obj:get_pos() work with players
01:06 kaeza            ?
01:06 Jakssoul         Be right back.
01:07 kaeza            fck
01:07 VanessaE         Jakssoul: boot puppy, open a terminal, mkdir /mysystem ; mount /dev/sda1 /mysystem (put in the right partition name); fire up a browser in puppy, search for the .debs you need on packages.ubuntu.com, download what you need, copy to /mysystem.  Reboot, look in / and you should see the .deb's you downloaded.  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
01:07 kaeza            sorry to disturb... my mistake, it was getpos()
01:08 NekoGloop        http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4187
01:08 moltenbot        NekoGloop's link: About the IRC (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
01:08 VanessaE         https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
01:08 VanessaE         Jakssoul: ^^^^^ go there for instructions on how to make it work
01:08 NekoGloop        VanessaE: haha now Molten is ignoring you :3
01:08 VanessaE         use your puppy install to fetch any files you may need.
01:09 VanessaE         NekoGloop: iqualfragile1 set it that way because I hate moltenbot :-)
01:10 jojoa1997        help i get this error http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png here is the code http://ompldr.org/vZ3Nvcg/init.lua
01:10 kaeza            ok another crappy forum post, could you please get your personal quarrels off here?
01:10 NekoGloop        kaeza: it's not my quarrel
01:11 NekoGloop        but since he's banned for no reason
01:11 NekoGloop        I have to post it
01:11 kaeza            nvm, don't want to discuss this. just forget what i said
01:12 Jakssoul         Back
01:12 jojoa1997        i need help. i get this error http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png here is the code http://ompldr.org/vZ3Nvcg/init.lua
01:12 jojoa1997        can anyone help
01:12 kaeza            jojoa1997: checking...
01:13 jojoa1997        k
01:13 aldobr2          jojoa1997 wheres the error ?
01:13 aldobr2          what line ?
01:13 kaeza            jojoa1997: can you post the code again?
01:13 jojoa1997          393
01:13 jojoa1997        http://ompldr.org/vZ3Nvcg/init.lua
01:14 aldobr2          put it on pastebin
01:14 aldobr2          i cant count lines
01:14 aldobr2          ¬¬
01:14 jojoa1997        i have pasted too many things
01:14 Jakssoul         Okay, thanks VannesaE, I didn't realize I could get the files from Puppy and move them to  my HDD that way.
01:14 jojoa1997        it says and i cant get an acount
01:14 jojoa1997        one sec
01:15 aldobr2          i copied the source to notepad++
01:15 aldobr2          line 393 looks innocent
01:15 VanessaE         Jakssoul: oh sure.  no prob.  for future reference:  you can do that from any linux to any other linux and generally from linux to a win partition also.
01:16 VanessaE         Jakssoul: if you should need to fix someone's broken machine at some time, you should be able to use puppy to get you access enough to download files/drivers
01:16 aldobr2          i used puppy once
01:16 aldobr2          its nice
01:16 Jakssoul         VanessaE: You're fantastic. Can't wait until I'm not a complete newbie and can be helping people like you have for me. I appreciate it so much.
01:16 aldobr2          but i feel "constrained"
01:16 Jakssoul         Why do you feel that way?
01:16 VanessaE         Jakssoul: no problem.  hang around, chat, write a mod, play the game some.  you'll be happy here I'm sure :-)
01:16 aldobr2          Jakssoul pls try opensuse someday
01:17 jojoa1997        error saidattempt to index feild 'env' (a nill value)
01:17 Jakssoul         aldobr2: I will install it to one of my dozens of Flash Drives tomorrow, don't worry.
01:18 aldobr2          local list = minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20); <- this is line 393, how can env be nil ?!?
01:18 jojoa1997        look at the pic http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png
01:18 kaeza            jojoa1997: can you use pastebin to show me line 393?
01:18 kaeza            not the error
01:19 aldobr2          yes this says that env is a nil value
01:19 aldobr2          how the f* can env be nil ?
01:19 NekoGloop        because minetest.env
01:19 aldobr2          and ?
01:19 jojoa1997        [20:14] <jojoa1997> i have pasted too many things
01:19 jojoa1997        [20:14] <jojoa1997> it says and i cant get an acount
01:19 VanessaE         eh?
01:19 jojoa1997        cant make an account
01:19 NekoGloop        well you have jordan muted so he cant help
01:20 kaeza            jojoa1997: then post here *ONLY* line 393
01:20 jojoa1997        i wont make an account on it
01:20 NekoGloop        so in other words, you're fucked
01:20 aldobr2          kaeza
01:20 aldobr2          local list = minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20);
01:20 jojoa1997        hold on
01:20 kaeza            wot?
01:20 aldobr2          i dont understand
01:20 jojoa1997        local list = minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20);
01:20 aldobr2          the error says that env is a nil value
01:20 jojoa1997        wont
01:20 kaeza            hmm
01:20 aldobr2          im perplexed
01:20 kaeza            indeed the line is right
01:20 aldobr2          how can env be nil ?
01:20 VanessaE         jojoa1997: use a different pastebin then, such as http://paste.dy.fi/
01:21 aldobr2          how can env be nil anywhere in the whole darn script ?
01:21 jojoa1997        i speak english only
01:21 kaeza            aldobr2: maybe some bad written mod is changin minetest.env to nil?
01:21 aldobr2          yes
01:21 VanessaE         jojoa1997: just paste and click the "Pastaa" button :-)
01:21 aldobr2          thats what i tought
01:21 aldobr2          a major screw up
01:21 jojoa1997        k
01:21 Jakssoul         jojoa1997, por que no hablas espanol? Necessitas aprender espanol ahora!
01:21 OldCoder         JesseH, ty
01:21 kaeza            Necesitas*
01:21 jojoa1997        i am learning it inschool
01:21 Jakssoul         See? Two years of Spanish class and I'm a pro! ;)
01:22 jojoa1997        not me
01:22 Jakssoul         It was sarcasm.
01:22 kaeza            Yo hablo español desde que nací ^_^
01:22 celeron55        OldCoder: you shouldn't ban or mute jordan4ibanez just because he says you shouldn't be an op
01:22 jojoa1997        what is the word for lua
01:22 celeron55        OldCoder: otherwise you just maybe shouldn't be
01:23 jojoa1997        found it
01:23 aldobr2          yo no hablo español
01:23 jojoa1997        http://paste.dy.fi/D1U
01:23 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: pastebin
01:23 aldobr2          eu falo português :D
01:24 celeron55        OldCoder: it's not like his sayings would have any effect on the thing anyway, except if you react to them like a child
01:24 jojoa1997        hablo un poco español pero pr favor no hablas en español
01:24 jordan4ibanez    Thanks
01:24 aldobr2          kaeza cant find "minetest.env = something" anywhere in the source
01:24 Jakssoul         Baha! This is fun! :D
01:24 jojoa1997        http://paste.dy.fi/D1U this is the code
01:24 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: pastebin
01:25 OldCoder         celeron55, More complicated than that. It may come down to him or I. I am sort of preoccupied these days. He keeps it up then he goes or I do. But let me focus on actual MT things today please.
01:25 jojoa1997        is it the local list part
01:25 jordan4ibanez    who needed help with my mod?
01:26 OldCoder         celeron55, and with all due respect don't lecture me about kids. You are young enough to be one of mine.
01:26 jojoa1997        it my version of your mod the peaceful npc
01:26 NekoGloop        And you're old enough to die. And we dont care.
01:26 jordan4ibanez    What's wrong with it?
01:26 OldCoder         NekoGloop, :D
01:26 NekoGloop        I suggest you dont care about our ages.
01:26 jojoa1997        i am trying to limit the npcs around the npc spawner block
01:26 aldobr2          i need beer and a steak
01:26 OldCoder         NekoGloop, I was simply responding to a point C55 made about "acting like a child"
01:27 aldobr2          a big big big steak of argentine's picanha :D
01:27 moltenbot        KittenGNU's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC
01:27 jojoa1997        jordan4ipbanezÑ i keep getting this error http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png
01:27 Exio             bot fail
01:27 NekoGloop        lol @ moltenbot
01:27 jojoa1997        and here is my version http://paste.dy.fi/D1U
01:27 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: pastebin
01:27 jordan4ibanez    did you put minetest.env: instead of env: ?
01:28 jojoa1997        jordan4ipbanez: i keep getting this error http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png
01:28 jojoa1997        local list = minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20);
01:28 VanessaE         jojoa1997: for large pastes of code like that you should consider using github (when it comes back online).
01:28 OldCoder         celeron55, One more point please. The LM situation requires careful handling. jordan4ibanez has been messing with that. Do you *want* the LM situation to go on forever? I don't think so.
01:28 jojoa1997        k
01:29 VanessaE         jojoa1997: that is' teach yourself how to maintain a git repository.  It'll make your life far easier in the future when you really get into coding more.
01:29 NekoGloop        if we stop giving LM attention, he will leave
01:29 jordan4ibanez    Umm, i don't even see what's wrong with that line dude lol
01:29 OldCoder         celeron55, this is about Landmine and not "acting like a child". NekoGloop do I need to point out the irony in you talking about the subject?
01:29 jojoa1997        VanessaE: i am havoing trouble getting it working so i gave up
01:29 NekoGloop        Do i need to point out the irony in you saying it?
01:29 jordan4ibanez    Use pastebin
01:30 jojoa1997        so anyone know what is wrong
01:30 OldCoder         celeron55, NekoGloop, VanessaE, jordan4ibanez I am prepared to make one more attempt to help with Landmine. And to help Landmine. If jordan4ibanez gets in the way he gets muted.
01:30 jojoa1997        i pasted too much
01:30 jojoa1997        http://paste.dy.fi/D1U here is it it is still in english
01:30 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: pastebin
01:30 aldobr2          i gotta go
01:30 OldCoder         marktraceur, thexyz, sfan5|OFF ^ See the preceding position statement
01:30 aldobr2          cya all
01:30 OldCoder         C U
01:31 celeron55        jordan4ibanez: if you don't understand what OldCoder is doing, you can currently only blame yourself
01:31 jordan4ibanez    Well what is oldcoder doing? Because no one will say anything to me
01:31 jojoa1997        just to be clear what i want to do is limit the # of npcs around the npc spawner
01:32 celeron55        it's kind of worthless to explain to you in any kind of full enough extent
01:32 celeron55        probably
01:32 kaeza            jordan4ibanez: certainly your personality is hard to understand. I'm not lecturing you, but you should be a little more friendly sometimes
01:32 jordan4ibanez    well can you even say the 1 line version? lol
01:32 celeron55        maybe OldCoder might give a short explanation privately?
01:33 celeron55        it's a silly thing and i don't even know that much about what OldCoder plans to do about it, so i rather not even try
01:33 Exio             jojoa1997: hm? that? i don't see it in the 'npc_spawner' function
01:33 jordan4ibanez    I give up, please ban my account, i am going back to minecraft
01:33 moltenbot        jordan4ibanez's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC
01:34 VanessaE         jeez
01:34 kaeza            oh well
01:34 celeron55        oh, whatever then
01:34 kaeza            if he says so
01:34 VanessaE         "back to MC".  er. pl
01:34 jojoa1997        line 354 but i dont know how to add it into the  392 part
01:34 VanessaE         er, ok.
01:34 Exio             the npc_spawner is called for spawning mobs from the npc spawner
01:34 NekoGloop        jordan says: "fuck minetest"
01:34 NekoGloop        figured I'd share
01:34 jojoa1997        which is an object i want to limit the # of npcs around it
01:35 celeron55        to be honest, i don't even give a shit :D
01:35 iqualfragile1    hmm… guys, lets collect ideas for mobs
01:35 iqualfragile1    wich are not cloned from minecraft
01:35 NekoGloop        guys, let's make the game work instead of copying minecraft all day long
01:35 kaeza            celeron55: well, since this is a free game, you should refund him :P
01:35 celeron55        but whatever, let's let this more constructive discussion continue
01:36 jojoa1997        can we help me some
01:36 OldCoder         I don't think I'll discuss any of this further today publicly or privately. I have IRL stuff to deal with as most of you do.
01:36 jojoa1997        cuase i have gotten nowhere
01:36 kaeza            jojoa1997: wait
01:36 Exio             jojoa1997: you can reuse code from the spawning_mobs function, it has a 'way' to count objects in a radius
01:36 jojoa1997        Exio:how
01:36 jojoa1997        kaeza:what
01:37 kaeza            jojoa1997: try to find a mod that does something similar to what you need to do, and see how it does things
01:37 jojoa1997        i dont know of any
01:38 LandMineOG       wassssssssup
01:38 LandMineOG       VanessaE you there?
01:38 jojoa1997        except for mobf but that code seems to rely on other stuff
01:38 VanessaE         yeah.
01:38 marktraceur      OldCoder: Agreed.
01:39 Exio             kaeza: check the code at line 464 * for _,obj in pairs(minetest.env:get_objects_inside_radius(pos, 30)) do
01:39 LandMineOG       k
01:39 kaeza            Exio: ?
01:39 Exio             in jojoa1997's pastebin
01:39 kaeza            oh
01:39 Exio             it has a code for checking objects around
01:39 kaeza            wait
01:39 jojoa1997        this is a comment if obj:is_player() then
01:39 Exio             s/objects/luaentities/
01:40 jojoa1997        ?
01:40 Exio             small regex for replacing 'objects' to 'luaentities'
01:41 jojoa1997        lines 425-483 are all comented
01:41 kaeza            Exio: yes... so?
01:41 jojoa1997        can we figure out the problem for line 393
01:41 jojoa1997        but thanks
01:42 Exio             isn't he writing a 'spawn limit' for npc spawners?
01:42 kaeza            yeah
01:42 Exio             if npcentities around > somenumber; don't spawn it?
01:42 jojoa1997        that is my added part
01:42 Exio             the code for getting the 'npcentities around' is in that function
01:43 jojoa1997        i want to make it a limet around the NPC Portal
01:43 jojoa1997        *limit
01:44 jojoa1997        but the error says that the minetest.env is nil
01:44 jojoa1997        or the "env" itself is nil
01:44 Exio             i think the problem is where you are running it
01:44 jojoa1997        how do i make the radius go around the node
01:45 jojoa1997        where should i
01:45 LandMineOG       oldcoder .........you there
01:45 kaeza            jojoa1997: try creating a game mode with only the default mods and your new mod and see if it shows the same error
01:45 Exio             in the npc_spawner function jojoa1997, as i said
01:46 jojoa1997        k
01:46 OldCoder         LandMineOG, Yes. But preoccupied.
01:47 LandMineOG       ohh ok oldcoder.....do your stuff...i wasnt gonna ask anything important anyway
01:47 OldCoder         LandMineOG, Free free to PM
01:47 NekoGloop        guys, follow the freenode guidelines and remove your op status when not using it
01:47 OldCoder         NekoGloop, No. I have specific reasons for the moment.
01:48 OldCoder         I think it's best if the others don't either. But it is their decision.
01:48 NekoGloop        why, to hateban anyone who thinks you shouldnt be op?
01:48 OldCoder         NekoGloop, I am focused elsewhere ATM. As I said I won't discuss the other issues further today.
01:48 OldCoder         Running behind on other projects.
01:48 NekoGloop        nice way to avoid a conversation
01:48 OldCoder         Necessary
01:49 OldCoder         Besides... you haven't been here a few days
01:49 OldCoder         I was concerned about you
01:49 OldCoder         Could have talked this last week
01:49 NekoGloop        stop with that BS
01:49 OldCoder         Not BS
01:49 OldCoder         I meant what I said in PM
01:49 OldCoder         And what I've posted publicly
01:49 NekoGloop        You're just trying to make me shut up
01:49 OldCoder         Hardly
01:50 OldCoder         I try to stop you from evaporating
01:50 OldCoder         That is far from making you shut up
01:50 OldCoder         I saw the switch, you know
01:50 jojoa1997        is it possible to just set the overall limet in the world
01:51 NekoGloop        From you being a kind innocent person to a self-centered demon?
01:51 OldCoder         jojoa1997, explain
01:51 OldCoder         NekoGloop, PM
01:51 jeffrash         What happened to minetest.org 30015?
01:51 OldCoder         jeffrash, Heh
01:51 OldCoder         jeffrash, John did a /clearobjects
01:51 jeffrash         I just lost a week of work
01:51 OldCoder         jeffrash, Ouch
01:51 OldCoder         jeffrash, No. Just 2 days.
01:51 jeffrash         really?
01:51 jojoa1997        istead of having the limit be set around the npc spawner have it set for the entire world say 50
01:51 jeffrash         I did a lot of 2 days
01:51 OldCoder         jeffrash, When he did /clearobjects it ate 12GB of my RAM
01:51 OldCoder         jeffrash, You can get it back
01:52 jeffrash         how?
01:52 LandMineOG       map backup
01:52 OldCoder         jeffrash, I will start the damaged world and give you worldedit there. You can try to export work as schems. Will this be acceptable?
01:52 jeffrash         sure, but I don't know how to world edit
01:53 OldCoder         jeffrash, deal is that you talk to people and learn. When you are ready we will try this if you wish. One tip: Turn on full range viewing. Toggle it immediately before export.
01:53 OldCoder         This works around a bug
01:53 jeffrash         can I import it back into the new world?
01:53 OldCoder         jeffrash, Probably
01:53 OldCoder         If it works
01:53 jojoa1997        OldCoder: http://paste.dy.fi/DTf this is the part that limits npcs
01:53 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: pastebin
01:53 OldCoder         I am willing to try
01:53 LandMineOG       you just have to set a position with //pos1 and then load it //load whatever.we
01:54 OldCoder         jojoa1997, O.K.
01:54 OldCoder         jojoa1997, Do you have a patch proposed?
01:54 jojoa1997        Patch?
01:54 OldCoder         jojoa1997, Is there a request for a fix?
01:54 OldCoder         Or a change?
01:54 jojoa1997        no it is my mod
01:54 OldCoder         jojoa1997, Are you requesting that the mod be used?
01:55 jojoa1997        i need it to be fixed
01:55 jeffrash         I'll just rebuild.  Are you sure it was only 2 days?
01:55 jeffrash         I'm missing alot
01:55 jojoa1997        this is the error http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png
01:55 OldCoder         jeffrash, I will verify the timestamp. Wait please.
01:55 jeffrash         it doesn't matter
01:56 OldCoder         jeffrash, I made the backup at about 6:30am local time on Thursday morning.
01:56 jeffrash         thanks for the information.
01:56 OldCoder         All right
01:56 OldCoder         Good luck
01:56 OldCoder         jojoa1997, reviewing
01:56 LandMineOG       jojoa1997 its easier if you goto /bin and delete your debug
01:56 jeffrash         do you think this will happen again?
01:56 LandMineOG       then run the game gain
01:56 LandMineOG       then paste your entire debug
01:56 LandMineOG       in pastebin.com
01:56 OldCoder         jeffrash, It will if somebody does /clearobjects
01:56 OldCoder         We may need to disable that
01:57 jojoa1997        why delete debug wont that make problems and others cant use it
01:57 OldCoder         jeffrash, there will be crashes occasionally
01:57 OldCoder         It is inevitable
01:57 jeffrash         ok
01:58 LandMineOG       jojoa1997 the debug has nothing to do with the mod
01:58 jojoa1997        k
01:58 LandMineOG       the reason to delete it
01:58 LandMineOG       is so a clean one can generate itsself
01:58 jojoa1997        it can regenerate itself?
01:58 LandMineOG       so you don thave to paste alot of stuff
01:58 LandMineOG       yeah
01:58 LandMineOG       it creates a new one
01:58 jojoa1997        you sure
01:58 LandMineOG       by itsself
01:58 LandMineOG       of course im sure
01:58 LandMineOG       ask anybody else
01:59 LandMineOG       go to /bin and delete debug.txt
01:59 LandMineOG       then run the game again
01:59 LandMineOG       when it crashes again
01:59 LandMineOG       open your debug
01:59 Exio             if you aren't sure movethe debug.txt to debug.txt.bak
01:59 LandMineOG       copy all of it
01:59 LandMineOG       and paste it in pastebin.com
01:59 LandMineOG       and send us the url of the pastebin
01:59 jojoa1997        the error still comes up
02:00 LandMineOG       [19:59] <LandMineOG> go to /bin and delete debug.txt [19:59] <LandMineOG> then run the game again [19:59] <LandMineOG> when it crashes again [19:59] <LandMineOG> open your debug [19:59] <Exio> if you aren't sure movethe debug.txt to debug.txt.bak [19:59] <LandMineOG> copy all of it [19:59] <LandMineOG> and paste it in pastebin.com [19:59] <LandMineOG> and send us the url of the pastebin
02:00 kaeza            jojoa1997: read what LandMineOG says
02:00 kaeza            hi LandMineOG
02:00 jojoa1997        i already deleted it
02:00 Exio             fffff
02:00 Exio             thanks for the highlight
02:00 LandMineOG       np exio and hi kaeza
02:01 jojoa1997        http://paste.dy.fi/DBS
02:01 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: pastebin
02:02 LandMineOG       oldcoder can you help with this?
02:02 LandMineOG       http://paste.dy.fi/DBS
02:02 moltenbot        LandMineOG's link: pastebin
02:02 LandMineOG       thanks in advanced
02:03 OldCoder         Reviewing
02:04 OldCoder         The env variable
02:04 OldCoder         What mod or component defines it?
02:04 jojoa1997        yep
02:04 OldCoder         I will grep the code
02:04 OldCoder         Hold on
02:04 jojoa1997        ???
02:04 kaeza            LandMineOG, jojoa1997: certainly this error is puzzling me
02:04 jin_xi           jojoa1997: try running only this one mod
02:05 jojoa1997        i did on minimal and that error came up
02:05 kaeza            jojoa1997: try creating a game mode with only the default mods and your new mod and see if it shows the same error
02:05 iqualfragile1    night guys
02:05 kaeza            night iq
02:05 OldCoder         That is part of default
02:05 OldCoder         Odd...
02:05 * OldCoder       greps further
02:06 jojoa1997        same thing
02:06 OldCoder         Minute please
02:07 kaeza            jojoa1997: what MT version do you have?
02:07 jojoa1997        0.4.4
02:07 OldCoder         jojoa1997, are you able to ZIP this up and send it to me?
02:07 kaeza            0.4.4 dev as i se
02:07 kaeza            see*
02:07 jojoa1997        the stable one
02:07 OldCoder         jojoa1997, your map and/or mods?
02:07 OldCoder         jojoa1997, Let me try to run it please
02:07 VanessaE         NekoGloop: so,..  why haven't you been on my server lately? :-)
02:07 OldCoder         Make a ZIP of a world and any mods
02:08 jojoa1997        one sec
02:08 OldCoder         VanessaE, PM
02:11 NakedFury        minetest is mentioned here
02:11 NakedFury        http://www.squidoo.com/games-that-are-like-minecraft
02:11 moltenbot        NakedFury's link: 18 Games Like Minecraft (Free and Paid) - Fun Sandbox Building Games
02:11 VanessaE         minetest gets #2 in the list, not bad
02:11 NakedFury        yeah
02:11 kaeza            cool
02:12 kaeza            MT is also number #2 in alternative.to IIRC
02:12 * OldCoder       will be here
02:12 kaeza            the first one Infiniminer
02:12 OldCoder         jojoa1997, If you make a ZIP let me try this
02:12 VanessaE         Minetest has potential to rise to the top of those lists if we manage it right
02:12 jojoa1997        one sec i am busy
02:12 NakedFury        I agree withat
02:12 NakedFury        with that
02:13 LandMineAway     brb
02:14 NakedFury        what ended in the forum upgrade discussion? upgrade to latest punbb or switch to another free alternative?
02:14 NakedFury        xenforo was expensive
02:15 kaeza            has anyone here actually played Infiniminer?
02:15 NakedFury        no
02:15 jojoa1997        nope
02:16 kaeza            hmm reading about it looks like fun
02:16 kaeza            but it seems it's not that advanced as MT
02:16 NakedFury        the developers dropped it after the source was leaked
02:16 Exio             nothing is advanced as MT
02:17 Exio             well, games using LUA are very advanced! <3
02:17 kaeza            yes I was reading about the 'Why Development of Infiniminer Was Stopped'
02:18 kaeza            but oh well TL;DR for now
02:20 kaeza            NakedFury: was there a poll about new forum software?
02:20 NakedFury        no, earlier today they were discussing about it
02:20 VanessaE         http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens18899388module155312055photo_1321895178minecraft_hates_1_by_cele
02:20 VanessaE         lol, so true in MT also.
02:21 kaeza            VanessaE: you may also like this one: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/memes/507c7f2d2a291.jpeg
02:21 kizeren          Hm.....any reason my players are mining and stuff randomly pops in to each others inventory?
02:21 VanessaE         hah
02:21 VanessaE         seen that one before :-)
02:21 VanessaE         OldCoder: I've got world/game/etc. updates for you at your leisure.  Use the .tar.bz2 URLs I gave before - those are permanent.
02:22 OldCoder         VanessaE, O.K. I am now over my head IRL. Must finish elsewhere before I MT again. But I will complete things.
02:22 VanessaE         take your time, there is no hurry.
02:22 OldCoder         I often tell others the same thing. One step at a time. More true for them than me though.
02:22 VanessaE         these also serve as two backup copies even without your online mirror :-)
02:22 OldCoder         Time is precious.
02:22 OldCoder         Ah
02:22 OldCoder         But I wish to show off your place
02:23 OldCoder         It is quite nice
02:23 VanessaE         You should see the place Dopium is building out past my house (take the road through the desert mountain to the east)
02:23 VanessaE         it's looking nice.
02:24 VanessaE         and jojoa1997 said he's got a nice little city brewing, but I haven't seen it yet.
02:24 * kaeza          feels nobody cares about his Final Fantasy 7 Main Theme music box :(
02:24 VanessaE         kaeza: you only give it like 8 notes :)
02:24 kaeza            oh yes
02:24 kaeza            I forgot to finish it :P
02:25 VanessaE         :P
02:25 NekoGloop        FF7 :D
02:26 kaeza            NekoGloop: you should see it... or rather hear it :D
02:26 NekoGloop        i know what it sounds like :#
02:26 NekoGloop        :3*
02:27 NekoGloop        Oh hello. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1613290-hello-i-am-new/#entry19853415
02:27 moltenbot        NekoGloop's link: Hello, I am new. - Minecraft Forum
02:28 NakedFury        was that you using a jordan id or really jordan?
02:28 NekoGloop        what do you think
02:29 NakedFury        should post traitor.
02:30 * kaeza          does not care
02:30 * kaeza          goes back to hacking
02:31 NekoGloop        like all linux users
02:31 OldCoder         NekoGloop, I will make a NekoDistro for you
02:32 OldCoder         That will make you smile
02:32 NekoGloop        no it wont
02:32 OldCoder         It will have whiskers
02:32 OldCoder         And cans of tuna fish
02:32 NekoGloop        because my hardware is linux-proofed
02:32 OldCoder         And anything else you wish
02:32 * VanessaE       whines because github is still down :(
02:32 OldCoder         It will run Windows
02:32 OldCoder         VanessaE, I can host repos if need be
02:33 VanessaE         OldCoder: naw, there's no need.  github's had some kind of hardware failure by the look of it.
02:33 NakedFury        shes having github withdrawals
02:33 VanessaE         *twitch*
02:33 OldCoder         VanessaE, NakedFury Understood
02:33 OldCoder         Heh
02:34 VanessaE         *twitch*
02:34 * NekoGloop      puts a kitten on VanessaE's head
02:35 LandMineAway     oldcoder tell vanessae to stop playing with my head
02:35 kaeza            github still down??
02:35 kaeza            buh
02:35 kizeren          Yes kaeza
02:35 OldCoder         Heh
02:35 OldCoder         VanessaE, dom
02:35 kaeza            I need to do a git push right now!
02:35 OldCoder         VanessaE, don't mess with his head :P
02:35 OldCoder         kaeza, Hold it back for a few minutes
02:36 OldCoder         I am sure git will be hubbing along at any time
02:36 kaeza            k
02:36 kaeza            :)
02:36 OldCoder         There should be backup servers
02:36 VanessaE         I'm not playign with anyone's head (*kicks a head-like ball across the floor innocently*)
02:37 kaeza            you are not playing with spell checkers either :)
02:37 kaeza            lol J/K
02:38 VanessaE         no, I'm just too lasfuiwmn tygok fix mty typoisz
02:38 VanessaE         :-)
02:38 kaeza            lol :)
02:39 * VanessaE       takes the previously-placed kitten and snuggles with it, then hands it off to OldCoder
02:47 Exio             i'm having problems with tweaking the world generation a bit, i changed the mapgen.lua, well, the alias in the mapgen.lua to avoid the tree generation, and changed water to lava
02:48 Exio             but, a new generated world with that, still generates trees and water
02:48 VanessaE         never messed with the map generator, hell I barely even know how to hook into it
02:48 Exio             and the ONLY mod in that 'testgame' is default with the mapgen.lua header changed
02:50 Exio             hm
02:51 kaeza            NakedFury: if the new forum software is still in discussion, I wan to suggest something
02:51 kaeza            want*
02:52 kaeza            or well, ask something for future reference
02:53 kaeza            hi Muadtralk
02:54 Muadtralk        no hello!
02:54 Muadtralk        i didnt leave too long did I?
02:54 NekoGloop        yes. You abandoned us D:
02:54 Exio             hm, nice
02:54 NakedFury        maybe
02:56 kaeza            Is it possible to have "post revisions" like wiki page revisions using some kind of plugin/addon?
02:57 kaeza            or at least block editing of posts (other than the first one) after someone replies?
02:59 * OldCoder       appreciates the kitten gift
02:59 Exio             i'm getting mad, a param of make_tree is obtained by the param of make_block, and it is obtained by calling some function with a variable obtain from a param of ServerMap::generateBlock
02:59 * NekoGloop      punts a kitten at OldCoder
03:00 kaeza            lolwut
03:00 Muadtralk        wha.........
03:00 Muadtralk        reverse posting?
03:01 Exio             aaaand, well
03:01 kaeza            Muadtralk: this always comes to my mind: http://www.epicfail.com/2012/04/09/facebook-trolling-win/
03:01 * OldCoder       uses a patented kitten net to catch it
03:01 Exio             generateBlock params is 'obtained' from emergeBlock
03:02 * NekoGloop      sues OldCoder for using his patented kitten net
03:05 OldCoder         Hmm
03:06 OldCoder         But I vetted the patents
03:06 OldCoder         :-(
03:06 * OldCoder       shrugs
03:14 Exio             nice, github still down
03:18 kaeza            Exio: yes :(
03:18 kaeza            and the last changes I pushed to my mod inadvertently borked some things :(
03:23 OldCoder         kaeza, bork happens
03:23 kaeza            I fixed the bugs now
03:23 kaeza            awaiting for github to be up again :)
03:25 Exio             i give up, i won't get where can be the problem of the mapgen
03:26 jakssoul         HAHAHA! IT WORKS
03:26 jakssoul         I'm on Xubuntu. WIRELESSLY.
03:26 jakssoul         I'm ECSTATIC.
03:26 sokomine         congratulations :-)
03:27 Exio             well, now i'm going to sleep, night
03:27 jakssoul         Sorry. Just had to throw that out there.
03:27 Exio             bye everybody
03:27 VanessaE         woohoo!
03:29 kaeza            way to go jakssoul!
03:29 kaeza            bye Exio
03:52 jakssoul         kaeza, I've got VanessaE to thank. She guided me through all of it, and still is!
03:53 kaeza            \o/
03:53 jakssoul         Que es la problema?
03:53 kaeza            estoy festejando :)
03:53 jakssoul         kaeza, tienes un problema?
03:54 jakssoul         festejandas que?
03:55 kaeza            ...
03:55 kaeza            nvm
03:55 jakssoul         ?
03:55 jakssoul         Que!?
03:57 * OldCoder       laughs
03:57 jakssoul         Por que?
03:57 OldCoder         I can understand about 2/3 of that
03:57 OldCoder         After all the years
03:57 OldCoder         It stays with you
03:57 jakssoul         Yeah.
03:57 jakssoul         I'm in Spanish 2.
03:58 OldCoder         Odd
03:58 OldCoder         It has been so long
03:58 jakssoul         I pretend I know how to speak it correctly.
03:58 OldCoder         I am sure you will do well
03:58 jakssoul         He probably just told me he is beating off or something.
03:58 jakssoul         Hahahaha.
03:58 OldCoder         Nah
03:58 OldCoder         There is only one word
03:58 jakssoul         Celebrating, right?
03:58 OldCoder         Let me check it
03:58 NakedFury        he is celebrating
03:58 OldCoder         Yes
03:58 jakssoul         Festejando is celebrating I thought.
03:58 OldCoder         That is the only word I missed
03:59 jakssoul         So I asked what he is celebrating!
03:59 jakssoul         Then he got angry?
03:59 OldCoder         And he said
03:59 OldCoder         nvm
03:59 jakssoul         Is festejandar the verb?
03:59 OldCoder         Not angry
03:59 jakssoul         Or is it not a verb some magical way?
03:59 OldCoder         I can't tell
03:59 OldCoder         Reviewing
04:00 OldCoder         I only see festejando
04:00 OldCoder         Anyway, excuse me
04:00 kaeza            OldCoder: hablas un poco de español?
04:00 OldCoder         Un poco si
04:00 OldCoder         I can read it
04:00 kaeza            bien!
04:00 OldCoder         No longer speak it
04:00 OldCoder         Si
04:00 OldCoder         Solamente un poco
04:00 OldCoder         With translator more obviously
04:00 OldCoder         But I am surprised at how much I remember
04:01 kaeza            heh yes
04:01 kaeza            things you learn at school are with you for life
04:01 jakssoul         kaeza, Are you latino?
04:01 kaeza            no matter how much time passes
04:01 jakssoul         Or just enjoy the language?
04:02 kaeza            jakssoul: from uruguay
04:02 sokomine         that's almost understandable :-)
04:02 kaeza            south america
04:02 jakssoul         Ahhhh, fun fun.
04:02 kaeza            sokomine: "es casi ininteligible"
04:03 kaeza            what you just said :P
04:03 kaeza            or "entendible"
04:03 kaeza            :/
04:04 * kaeza          sucks at spanish... even speaking it natively
04:04 kaeza            ^_^
04:09 NakedFury        jordan did leave the game
04:11 jakssoul         Hang on here.
04:11 jakssoul         celeron55 is one of the main developers of Minetest?
04:11 sokomine         afaik he wrote the game
04:12 jakssoul         Yeah. I just read that. I was just talking to this guy and didn't even realize.
04:12 jakssoul         Wow.
04:12 jakssoul         I'm an idiot.
04:14 sokomine         :-) doesn't matter. he seems a nice guy and you can talk with him when he's online :-)
04:20 NakedFury        ok found 3 guys on minecraft forums and added as friends
04:21 NakedFury        neko, jordan, and ipushbuttons
04:22 jakssoul         Woah.
04:23 Muadtralk        no taoki?
04:23 Muadtralk        i know she is on there
04:23 Muadtralk        at least last  i checked
04:23 NakedFury        same name?
04:23 NakedFury        and you?
04:24 NakedFury        mirceakitsune with a rainbow pony avatar?
04:26 NakedFury        yep same user
04:26 OldCoder         kaeza, I am sure your Spanish is fine
04:27 OldCoder         jakssoul, congratulations on the wifi
04:28 NakedFury        his spanish must be fine, maybe he sucks at grammar
04:33 VanessaE         yay!  github is back :-)
04:34 OldCoder         VanessaE, press the button. You know you want to.
04:34 OldCoder         Do it.
04:34 OldCoder         Dooo eeet
04:34 OldCoder         :-)
04:34 OldCoder         Push or pull etc.
04:34 NakedFury        fork!
04:35 OldCoder         Spoon!
04:35 NakedFury        uis there actually a spoon term in git hub?
04:35 OldCoder         If not there ought to be
04:35 OldCoder         It almost makes sense
04:37 VanessaE         heh, actually I just wanted to review a couple of bug reports :D
04:37 NakedFury        ...sure you know you wanted some pulling or commits action
04:37 VanessaE         lol
04:38 VanessaE         actually I'm glad it's back up, I'm helping jakssoul through the process of installing MT from sources :-)
05:01 Trezker          All I wanted was a straight stair into the depths, and here's this damn lava pool in the way...
05:28 kaeza            github is BACK!!
05:28 VanessaE         yep :-)
05:29 kaeza            I'm pushing 21634896 changes!!
05:29 kaeza            \o/
05:29 VanessaE         lol
05:29 leo_rockway      what? o.o
05:31 kaeza            good bye monthly bandwidth :/
05:31 VanessaE         kaeza: I thought to upgraded to that better ISP?
05:32 kaeza            not yet :(
05:32 kaeza            still on 4GB :/
05:32 leo_rockway      I thought you only had the state ISP
05:32 kaeza            leo_rockway: Claro
05:32 leo_rockway      oh
05:33 leo_rockway      and how does that work?
05:33 VanessaE         ick :(
05:33 kaeza            usb modem. 4GB/mo for 485 pesos
05:33 kaeza            a lot overrated
05:35 leo_rockway      what's the UY$ US$ exchange rate? I don't remember it.
05:35 leo_rockway      I was in Uruguay earlier this year, but considering our exchange rate issues I have trouble remembering actual rates.
05:37 kaeza            1 US$ = 20 UY$
05:37 Trezker          25.19 according to google
05:37 kaeza            or 1 AR$ = 6 UY$
05:37 Trezker          I mean 485 peso = 25.19 usd
05:38 leo_rockway      kaeza: official...
05:38 leo_rockway      I can't get 6UY for 1 AR
05:38 OldCoder         <kaeza> I'm pushing 21634896 changes!!
05:38 OldCoder         Slacker :P
05:38 kaeza            IDK the current rates
05:39 kaeza            ask google
05:39 kaeza            OldCoder: lol
05:39 kaeza            OldCoder: actually: 1 file changed, 66 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
05:40 OldCoder         O.K.
05:52 VanessaE         is it bad if you get lost on your own server occasionally? :-)
05:55 OldCoder         Nah
05:55 OldCoder         Big places
06:04 kaeza            It's 3:00 AM and some my f*cktard network has his stereo at full volume
06:04 kaeza            ...
06:05 kaeza            there are at least 3/4 wrong in that statement
06:05 kaeza            It's 4:00 AM and my f*cktard neighbor has his stereo at full volume
06:05 kaeza            lol autocorrect
06:06 * kaeza          is bored
06:06 VanessaE         lol
06:07 * kaeza          is thinking of griefing vanessae.mine.bz
06:08 VanessaE         /revoke kaeza interact
06:08 VanessaE         ;)
06:08 kaeza            (at -32000^3) //p1 (at 32000^3) //p2 //set air
06:16 OldCoder         Hmm
06:16 OldCoder         There should be a //set buildings
06:16 OldCoder         That would be interesting
06:16 OldCoder         Or...
06:16 OldCoder         //set cheese
06:16 OldCoder         Maybe //set rats
06:16 OldCoder         What happened to the rats again?
06:17 OldCoder         Not compatible?
06:17 * OldCoder       remembers the rats divided by zero bug
06:17 kaeza            I miss c++ DMs :(
06:17 OldCoder         That was a heaping helping of rats
06:24 kaeza            VanessaE: can you paste a worldedit file in your world if I send it to you?
06:25 VanessaE         I could but I guarantee it won't paste right unless you've got a good area to paste it into
06:26 VanessaE         worldedit's load command needs a little bit of work yet
06:28 VanessaE         kaeza: where were you when you signed off?
06:28 kaeza            near Zephyr
06:29 VanessaE         oh ok, not by the note blocks?
06:29 kaeza            i didn't see the noteblocks :(
06:29 VanessaE         did you re-appear in the same place as when you signed off?
06:29 kaeza            apparently I'm at the music box now
06:29 kaeza            so yes
06:29 VanessaE         yep.
06:29 VanessaE         ok
06:30 VanessaE         tjust trying to figure out why the map didn't load for you
06:30 VanessaE         -t
06:31 kaeza            the strange thing is it load ok for a minute or so
06:31 kaeza            loads*
06:31 VanessaE         strange indeed
06:32 kaeza            punched the switch about 20 secs ago
06:32 kaeza            and it just turned off
06:33 VanessaE         I think you're losing packets or something
06:33 VanessaE         it's been working great for everyone else
06:34 kaeza            I'll try reconnecting my modem
06:34 kaeza            brb
06:34 kaeza1           back
06:35 VanessaE         wb
06:35 kaeza1           thx
06:35 kaeza1           I'll try connecting now
06:35 * kaeza1         is waiting for kaeza to go
06:37 OldCoder         ghost it
06:39 kaeza            how do i "ghost" it?
06:40 JesseH           kaeza, how do you handle ping requests with your client? :B
06:40 kaeza            ...
06:41 OldCoder         /msg NickServ GHOST nickname password
06:41 OldCoder         Like that kaeza ^
06:41 kaeza            thx OC
06:41 OldCoder         Kicks the ghost
06:41 * OldCoder       nods
06:41 * kaeza          feels like a n00b
06:41 JesseH           :/
06:41 JesseH           Ill just split the string and send it back
06:42 kaeza            yup
06:42 kaeza            y?
06:43 JesseH           because I have to pong that ball
06:44 * kaeza          is not amused
06:45 JesseH           :/ sorry
06:45 * JesseH         kills self.
06:45 kaeza            J/K
06:45 kaeza            I'm a bit tired
06:46 JesseH           me too
06:47 kaeza            well, someone has been building houses around my music box :(
06:47 kaeza            I don't have enough space now :/
06:48 kaeza            I may have to start building upwards
06:48 JesseH           Don't dig down
06:51 kaeza            nah, I'll just grief all the houses mwahahaha
06:51 kaeza            J/K
06:51 JesseH           heh
06:53 kaeza            VanessaE: is your recent mapgen problem related to the fact that there are leaves without trees?
06:53 VanessaE         no, that's just from me having disabled leaf decay ;-)
06:54 kaeza            oh cool :D
06:54 kaeza            I found it a bit strange lol
06:55 VanessaE         I suppose I could re-enable it (I disabled it while we were trying to cut down the CPU usage and make the server less laggy)
06:55 kaeza            no leave it as it is now
06:56 kaeza            I don't mind removing leaves manually
06:56 kaeza            and leafdecay will surely bog down your server
06:56 VanessaE         yeah
06:57 kaeza            hmm I should do the same for my local games
06:57 VanessaE         according to the profiler, it was the heaviest mod on the server, even moreso than technic assumign I read it right
07:03 VanessaE         interesting.  The server was sitting there spinning at 60% CPU without anyone logged in, then I connected and it went back down to normal
07:03 kaeza            hm?
07:04 kaeza            odd
07:06 RealBadAngel     propably it played solitaire or somethin like that
07:06 RealBadAngel     out of boredom
07:06 VanessaE         *forever alone*
07:07 kaeza            hi RealBadAngel
07:07 RealBadAngel     hi
07:09 kaeza            and good night, I'm off to bed
07:09 kaeza            good night everyone
07:09 kaeza            CU l8r
07:14 VanessaE         zzz
07:33 VanessaE         think I'll follow suit and go to bed also.
07:33 VanessaE         night.
08:01 OldCoder         Night
09:31 Jordach          morning OldCoder
09:31 OldCoder         Jordach, hello
09:38 Jordach          i see shit hit the fan last night
09:47 Jordach          can i has cake? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=58792#p58792
09:47 moltenbot        Jordach's link: Ban me. (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
09:47 Jordach          moltenbot, shush
09:56 OldCoder         Taoki, Hi
09:56 OldCoder         Ditto Jeija
09:56 Taoki            hello :)
09:56 Taoki            Been a while... how have you been?
09:56 OldCoder         Heh
09:56 OldCoder         Not so good
09:56 OldCoder         But thank you
10:00 OldCoder         markveidemanis, Hello
10:02 markveidemanis__ hi oldcoder
10:02 markveidemanis_  who registered this nickname??
10:02 OldCoder         Which one?
10:02 markveidemanis_  oh, me
10:03 markveidemanis_  hii
10:04 markveidemanis_  OldCoder, whats the port of the default worls
10:04 markveidemanis_  #d
10:05 markveidemanis_  anyone know any good seeds?
10:05 OldCoder         markveidemanis_, try 30000 on minetest.org
10:05 markveidemanis_  k
10:09 markveidemanis_  it cant be default
10:09 markveidemanis_  still connecting
10:22 markveidemanis_  whats the boomworld mod
10:31 markveidemanis_  welL?
10:31 brobostigon      good morning everyone,
10:32 markveidemanis_  good morning
10:32 brobostigon      morning markveidemanis_
10:32 markveidemanis_  do you know what the "boomworld" mod on the gameboom server is?
10:33 brobostigon      no, sorry.
10:34 markveidemanis_  not doing that again...
10:35 markveidemanis_  why 3 times?
10:35 markveidemanis_  oh, all the ip's
10:35 markveidemanis_  now who is spamming:)
10:36 markveidemanis   test
10:36 markveidemanis   yay
10:36 markveidemanis   hi Minetest-tan
10:36 Minetest-tan     Hey markveidemanis!
10:36 markveidemanis   hi moltenbot
10:37 Taoki            back
10:37 Taoki            OldCoder: I hope things get better then, good luck
10:38 markveidemanis   wait, what did he do?
10:39 thexyz           he asked for it
10:39 thexyz           http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-23#i_2745532
10:39 moltenbot        thexyz's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-23
10:43 thexyz           other ops are free to unban him if they wish to
10:43 * Taoki          wonders why so much drama here every once in a while... MineTest is a nice and peaceful place :)
10:44 thexyz           yeah, i was surprised by amount of drama here too
10:44 thexyz           does the same thing happen with every opensource project?
10:44 markveidemanis   01:33	jordan4ibanez	I give up, please ban my account, i am going back to minecraft
10:44 markveidemanis   what he said, not me
10:45 Jordach          he's always been like this
10:46 celeron55        thexyz: i have a bit of experience from one, but the community of it was mainly quite professional older people
10:46 Jordach          celeron55, clap clap clap
10:46 celeron55        thexyz: i think the cause of this is that this project pulls many young people
10:46 Jordach          celeron55, you might wanna take motivational speeches up
10:56 Taoki            thexyz: Not that I know of. I usually check the channel for #xonotic often apart from this one (since that's my other favorite FOSS game), but things are usually ok
10:56 Taoki            Only time there's drama there is when people argue over the weapon balancing (a.k.a. developer drama) or a troll that's sticking with the project for years and ban evades every few months comes in and starts complaining till he's banned again
11:00 OldCoder         thexyz, the LM issue complicates this one
11:01 OldCoder         But any social media based enterprise
11:01 OldCoder         has a human element
11:01 OldCoder         Group dynamics are often unpredictable
11:01 OldCoder         And just to balance things...
11:01 Zeg9             How runs minetestserver on swap?
11:02 OldCoder         Heh
11:02 OldCoder         Zeg9, explain
11:02 Jordach          OldCoder, the entity LM will fall over sometime under its own weight
11:02 Zeg9             I have a wii, which has really a few memory
11:02 Jordach          Zeg9 means swap memory
11:02 OldCoder         Jordach, or evolve
11:02 OldCoder         Not familiar with wii
11:02 Zeg9             It's like 50 MB of memory, or less
11:02 Jordach          Zeg9, it should have 256mb or 512mb
11:02 OldCoder         I need to learn that
11:03 Jordach          !wik nintendo wii
11:03 Zeg9             So, I'm wondering if minetest server would run fine on a swap on an usb drive or sd card
11:03 Minetest-tan     "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Nintendo_wii
11:03 OldCoder         Zeg9, it should with the right database format
11:03 Zeg9             Well I'll try. I'll make a 1 GB swap and tell you news...
11:03 Zeg9             ...When the upgrade is done...
11:05 Jordach          Zeg9, about 128mb of ram
11:05 Zeg9             I finally got the wifi working, realising the ssid had a _ and not a -
11:05 Zeg9             128mb yeah but all can't be used
11:05 Jordach          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#Specifications
11:05 moltenbot        Jordach's link: Wii - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
11:05 Zeg9             http://www.gc-linux.org/wiki/WL:whiite-linux#DOs_And_DON.27Ts
11:05 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: WL:whiite-linux - gc-linux
11:06 * Zeg9           is upgrading his wii from debian 5 to 6, in the hope he won't have to reinstall all
11:08 markveidemanis   i am running a minetest 0.3.1 server on the usual ip
11:09 Zeg9             Wii is really a quiet system
11:11 * Zeg9           successfully enabled 512 MB swap on sd card on his wii.
11:12 Zeg9             Lol. I typed free -m 3 times and on the 4th...
11:12 Zeg9             Oh nothing.
11:13 Zeg9             Hey john
11:13 Zeg9             morning ? it's 12:12
11:14 Zeg9             Installing linux on wii :')
11:15 OldCoder         Yes Zeg9 it is late here
11:15 OldCoder         :-)
11:15 Zeg9             lol
11:15 OldCoder         <-- Received a CTCP TIME from Zeg9
11:15 * Jordach        was coding a text based procedrally generated zombie game
11:16 Zeg9             Was wondering why you were so tired everyday.
11:16 OldCoder         So much nonsense going on
11:16 OldCoder         Need to finish blog posts
11:16 OldCoder         Jordach it is 3:14am
11:16 OldCoder         <-- Received a CTCP TIME from Jordach
11:16 Jordach          i know, just checking
11:16 OldCoder         Attention: To save the poor old CTCP packages a trip
11:16 OldCoder         It is 3:15am in Coderland :P
11:16 Jordach          walking in a winter coderland
11:16 OldCoder         Yes
11:16 OldCoder         Actually posted that song
11:17 OldCoder         Just one stanza; he didn't write more
11:17 Zeg9             Installing git. Then... minetestserver !
11:18 OldCoder         Later on, we'll compile, // As we debug by the fire // To face unafraid, // The APIs that we've made, // Walking in a coder wonderland.
11:19 Zeg9             That's so poetic.
11:19 OldCoder         Heh
11:19 OldCoder         I didn't write it
11:20 OldCoder         I dabble
11:20 OldCoder         Puddles of dreams of riches
11:20 OldCoder         On the ground
11:20 OldCoder         Splash through the APIs
11:20 OldCoder         And the acronyms
11:20 OldCoder         Dreams of magic ponies
11:20 OldCoder         Pulling wheelbarrows of money
11:20 OldCoder         Down from the server clouds
11:20 OldCoder         etc.
11:21 OldCoder         Sure
11:21 OldCoder         Rhymes all the times
11:21 markveidemanis   11:08:53: ACTION[ServerThread]: A dungeon master spawns at (-80,-18,58)
11:21 Zeg9             NEWS: SWAP on SD card via usb is slow.
11:21 markveidemanis   someone come on my 0.3.1 server
11:21 OldCoder         Yeah that will pack them in
11:21 OldCoder         markveidemanis, explain...
11:21 Zeg9             Or wait no. It was an overloaded cpu
11:22 OldCoder         why they should
11:22 OldCoder         markveidemanis, marketing
11:22 markveidemanis   relive the experiebce...
11:22 Zeg9             mark, just use a mod like simple mobs for dungeon masters and stuff...
11:22 OldCoder         markveidemanis, O.K. that is a start
11:22 OldCoder         Why is 0.3.1 more fun for you than 0.4.4 ?
11:23 OldCoder         Jordach, weren't you working on a 0.3.X fork at one point?
11:23 Jordach          yes, the git is still around
11:23 OldCoder         I can see a simple MT
11:23 Jordach          also -- i found the proto mod api txt
11:23 OldCoder         as being useful
11:23 OldCoder         as a coding base and learning tool
11:24 markveidemanis   i quit the 0.3.1, i got bored
11:24 OldCoder         john_minetest, would an older Irrlicht work?
11:24 markveidemanis   i installed 0.3.1 from the marketplace
11:24 OldCoder         markveidemanis, marketplace?
11:24 markveidemanis   and compiled 0.4
11:24 markveidemanis   lubuntu software centre
11:24 Zeg9             Soon compiling 0.4,... on wii
11:25 OldCoder         Ah
11:25 OldCoder         Sure
11:25 OldCoder         Jordach, Zeg9 what is the CTCP TIME command? I don't recall and somebody else wants to CTCP me
11:26 OldCoder         Ha
11:26 Zeg9             OldCoder /ctcp OldCoder TIME
11:26 OldCoder         Yep
11:26 OldCoder         Mystery Inquirer: Do that command
11:26 OldCoder         /ctcp OldCoder TIME
11:26 OldCoder         Yep
11:26 john_mt|afk      eating
11:26 Zeg9             Oh... You changed it
11:26 OldCoder         It worked
11:26 Zeg9             I guess
11:26 OldCoder         Yep
11:26 Zeg9             No.
11:26 markveidemanis   003:25
11:26 OldCoder         What changed?
11:26 OldCoder         Same client as before
11:27 OldCoder         /ctcp OldCoder version
11:27 OldCoder         will show my HexChat
11:27 OldCoder         Yep
11:27 OldCoder         Now you're getting it
11:27 Zeg9             Try to ctcp time me
11:27 OldCoder         Heh
11:27 OldCoder         Message
11:32 Zeg9             Huh wait - minetest server can use swap right?
11:33 Jordach          Zeg9, yes it can
11:33 Zeg9             Ok
11:33 Jordach          all programs can use swap file
11:33 markveidemanis   hi
11:34 Zeg9             Hi
11:34 Zeg9             no, java don't use them
11:34 Zeg9             Weirdly
11:35 markveidemanis   zeg, any updates on the ufo mod?
11:35 Zeg9             Not yet.
11:35 markveidemanis   the beam!?
11:36 Zeg9             DOING OTHER STUFF
11:36 markveidemanis   :(
11:37 Zeg9             Why building server requires irrlicht??
11:40 Zeg9             Finally building minetestserver on wii.... :')
11:46 Zeg9             It seems to be stuck on sqlite3 building...
11:47 OldCoder         Allow time
11:47 OldCoder         Good point about Irrlicht
11:47 Zeg9             I see. sqlite is 4MB file to compile...
11:48 Zeg9             I hope it will work.
11:48 Exio             Zeg9: java uses it, at least here
11:48 Exio             and hi btw
11:49 Zeg9             Hello!
11:49 markveidemanis   ji
11:49 Zeg9             Well, when I hosted a minecraft server, it would never use swap
11:49 Zeg9             But maybe that's related to minecraft, not java
11:50 Zeg9             Ouch
11:50 Exio             my minecraft uses the swap when i 'allocate' more than half gb :P
11:50 Exio             and well, minecraft client
11:50 Zeg9             http://pastebin.com/K3N3wPGX
11:50 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: sqlite3 wii compiling - Pastebin.com
11:51 Exio             aww
11:51 Zeg9             This ruined all...
11:51 Exio             i should compile it for my android phone
11:51 Exio             easy ^ :P
11:52 markveidemanis   who has a dev mod for me to test
11:52 Exio             wb
11:52 Zeg9             Eating now
11:56 markveidemanis   how can you replace an operating system
11:57 Exio             i was thinking about doing that, but that isn't that easy
11:58 Exio             cyanogen*?
11:58 markveidemanis   ?
11:59 Exio             john_minetest: one thing, check the specs, possibly only a 'high end' phone can handle the things from a small desktop
12:00 Exio             and where is the touchscreen input?
12:00 Exio             s/?/option?/
12:00 Exio             800 MHz*?
12:00 Exio             ah, well
12:01 Exio             yeah
12:10 Exio             maemo was better than android
12:10 Exio             sudo gainroot
12:10 iqualfragile     using win 2000 an 800mhz-cpu is quite usable
12:10 Exio             apt-get install build-essentials cmake lua lua-dev
12:11 Exio             lol windows 2000
12:16 Jordach          none
12:16 Jordach          depends on the NAND lock they install
12:18 bas080           More then a hundred posts :D
12:19 Zeg9             Back
12:21 Exio             john_minetest: the 'easiers' systems for installing linuxs, are androids, mainly because you can use the kernel+modules and other opensource stuff for getting it working
12:23 Exio             you can, the two ways
12:26 markveidemanis   hhhiii
12:26 Zeg9             Have you seen that ?
12:26 Zeg9             http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=58672#p58672
12:27 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: [Mod] Simple Mobs [mobs] (Page 8) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
12:27 Zeg9             http://ompldr.org/vZ3N0Yg
12:27 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: Hi moltenbot !
12:28 Exio             hahahaha
12:29 celeron55        Zeg9: oh dog what
12:30 Zeg9             Yeah. I didn't thinks this issue was provocated by something like that...
12:30 Zeg9             think*
12:31 celeron55        lol, taoki left an hour ago
12:31 moltenbot        john_minetest's link:  [REF][ICS] Kernel Stuffs - How is ICS Kernel Different | updated may-28-2012 - xda-developers
12:36 celeron55        Zeg9: most likely that *is* the actual issue
12:36 Zeg9             Yeah
12:39 * markveidemanis is compiling the latest minetest]
12:44 iqualfragile     are there 3d-mobs?
12:44 iqualfragile     (im not talking about that humanoid thing)
12:44 Zeg9             There is mob framework, but it still uses nodeboxes :/
12:44 Exio             someone should make the models
12:45 iqualfragile     iirc there were some people willing to do that
12:48 Jordach          IT MIGHT be possible to make simple mobs use the player model since their appearance looks like the old player
12:48 Exio             maybe, but every mob with the same model ...
12:48 Exio             hm :P
12:49 iqualfragile     yeah, we do definitly need some other models
12:49 Zeg9             Make simple mobs different ?
12:49 markveidemanis   hi#
12:49 iqualfragile     !ping github
12:49 moltenbot        host github DOWN
12:50 Zeg9             Well, Oerkki, dungeon master, rat and sheep wouldn't use the player model.
12:50 iqualfragile     !ping github.com -.-
12:50 moltenbot        64 bytes from 207.97.227.239: icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=87.0 ms
12:50 Zeg9             There were already some Oerkki and DM models submited
12:50 Zeg9             "The Realm of 3D mobs" I think
12:50 Zeg9             !g The realm of 3d mobs minetest
12:50 Minetest-tan     Zeg9: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1594
12:51 iqualfragile     yeah, well, he did not publish them, did he
12:52 Zeg9             Oerkki one: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=20068#p20068
12:52 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: The Realm of 3D Mobs (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
12:52 Zeg9             http://filesmelt.com/dl/mt_mob_mesh.zip
12:52 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: mt_mob_mesh.zip - FileSmelt File and Image
12:52 Zeg9             There is no license information, though :/
12:53 iqualfragile     so its public domain!
12:53 Zeg9             We'd better remake one
12:55 Zeg9             I'll try to make some meshes.
12:57 Exio             i suck at design grr, i can't help :<
12:58 markveidemanis   http://filesmelt.com/notfound
13:07 Zeg9             I'm a bit tired to do meshes.
13:07 Zeg9             john_minetest, maybe one for oerkki, DM,rat and sheep?
13:11 Zeg9             They are nice. But... no license information
13:11 Zeg9             Maybe we should just request this :)
13:13 Zeg9             I'll work on the planes mod
13:18 markveidemanis   yay, work on planes mod
13:21 Zeg9             1000101 1100001 1110011 1111001 100000 1101111 1101110 1100101
13:22 markveidemanis   im am i will translate...
13:22 markveidemanis   7 bit??
13:22 Zeg9             Hehe no
13:22 Zeg9             I knew you will find this site, john
13:23 Zeg9             Hint
13:23 Zeg9             If it's 7 bit, then the first bits have been removed ...
13:24 Zeg9             Because they are useless => 0 bits
13:24 markveidemanis   first the picture, not THIS
13:24 markveidemanis   #now
13:24 markveidemanis   first the picture. now this
13:24 Zeg9             Yeah
13:24 Zeg9             I still have the picture ifyou want x)
13:24 markveidemanis   so do i get "give" if i crazk it?
13:25 markveidemanis   crack
13:25 Zeg9             Nop
13:25 Zeg9             Just a way to waste time.
13:25 markveidemanis   but last time it was
13:25 markveidemanis   hahahaha
13:25 markveidemanis   so you want towaste time, huh?
13:29 markveidemanis_  hiiiiiiiiiiii
13:30 markveidemanis   anyone have a  non-laggy server?
13:30 markveidemanis   1000101 1100001 1110011 1111001 100000 1101111 1101110 1100101
13:32 markveidemanis   anyone running server
13:32 markveidemanis   [13:32] CTCP TIME reply from OldCoder: Sun Dec 23 05:31:22
13:33 OldCoder         markveidemanis, Yes Mark...
13:33 OldCoder         I am still in the same time zone as two hours ago
13:33 OldCoder         :P
13:33 Zeg9             OldCoder won't sleep tonight
13:33 Jordach          OldCoder, go grab yourself a coffee
13:33 OldCoder         I will
13:33 OldCoder         I need to sleep
13:33 markveidemanis   hi
13:33 OldCoder         Promised things to a bunch of people
13:33 OldCoder         marktraceur, yes
13:33 * markveidemanis
13:33 OldCoder         Oops
13:33 OldCoder         markveidemanis, not marktraceur
13:34 markveidemanis   tab?
13:34 OldCoder         Yep
13:34 OldCoder         Needs to work more like bash tab
13:34 OldCoder         Finished blog
13:34 OldCoder         time to sleep
13:34 Jordach          OldCoder, annoying here as well
13:34 OldCoder         Today I got about 5 things promised
13:34 OldCoder         Oh?
13:34 Jordach          hexchat with first aplhabetically
13:34 OldCoder         ah
13:34 Jordach          sorted tab
13:34 OldCoder         Yes
13:35 * markveidemanis
13:35 OldCoder         Yes, Mark; we see your name
13:35 OldCoder         You have typed /me
13:35 OldCoder         It is not entirely clear why
13:36 markveidemanis   YAY!
13:39 Zeg9
13:40 Zeg9             Zeg9
13:40 markveidemanis   markveidemanis
13:40 * Zeg9           is bored.
13:44 markveidemanis   Zeg9.........................................................................................................................
13:44 Zeg9             I am called zeg9
13:45 markveidemanis   no, Zeg9
13:45 markveidemanis   zeg9
13:45 markveidemanis   ZeG9
13:45 markveidemanis   i am bored too
13:45 Jordach          Zeg9, you could make some player textures usingn skincraft
13:48 markveidemanis   link .
13:48 markveidemanis   to planes mod
13:49 markveidemanis   telnet tosel.blinkenlights.nl: we all love this
13:49 markveidemanis   8888888888  888    88888                                                 88     88   88 88   88  88                                                 8888  88  88   88  88888                                                     88 88 888888888 88   88                                            88888888  88 88     88 88    888888
13:49 markveidemanis   fail
13:49 markveidemanis   it should say star wars
13:50 markveidemanis   its cool right?
13:50 markveidemanis   and kinda sad...
13:52 markveidemanis   *cricket chirps
13:53 markveidemanis   houston, abort
13:57 markveidemanis   i am starting a new server
13:57 markveidemanis   ...{...}
13:57 markveidemanis   it will be survival and have only basic mods
13:57 markveidemanis   anyone interested
13:58 markveidemanis   it will also feature some other entity mods: ufo, boats, worldedit
13:58 markveidemanis   inventory+
13:58 markveidemanis   skins mod
13:58 markveidemanis   cube
13:58 markveidemanis   3dforniture
13:58 markveidemanis   utility
13:58 markveidemanis   maptoold
13:58 markveidemanis   #s
13:59 markveidemanis   anyone interested in it???
13:59 markveidemanis   WELL>
14:00 OldCoder         markveidemanis, don't flood please
14:01 markveidemanis   why are the not listening?
14:01 OldCoder         You can combine some of that into a single paragraph
14:01 OldCoder         markveidemanis, You are in the U.K.
14:01 OldCoder         Is that correct?
14:01 OldCoder         Most people are U.S.
14:01 markveidemanis   yeh
14:01 markveidemanis   yeh
14:01 OldCoder         Or other countries
14:01 OldCoder         ZZz
14:01 OldCoder         Sleeping
14:01 OldCoder         Now don't flood please
14:01 markveidemanis   #Zzz, ZZz
14:02 markveidemanis   ok
14:02 * OldCoder       is asleep
14:02 OldCoder         Mostly
14:03 OldCoder         *sigh* Yes Mark I have not left my time zone
14:03 OldCoder         It is still Pacific
14:03 markveidemanis   do you still see the notifications?
14:03 OldCoder         Yes
14:03 OldCoder         Hence my remark
14:03 OldCoder         I do not read minds
14:03 OldCoder         Usually
14:03 OldCoder         :-)
14:03 markveidemanis   :9)_
14:04 markveidemanis   : - )
14:05 OldCoder         markveidemanis, I take it you are bored. Go build a world or write a story.
14:05 OldCoder         People will come to play later
14:06 markveidemanis   me really boreesd
14:06 OldCoder         Can you write?
14:06 OldCoder         Write something
14:06 markveidemanis   what?
14:06 OldCoder         A story. Or learn coding.
14:06 OldCoder         Learn Lua.
14:07 OldCoder         markveidemanis, I need to sleep a bit. I assure you my time zone will not change today. Write a story. Learn coding. Walk a dog. Speculate about Christmas gifts. There are many possibilities.
14:07 markveidemanis   ;(
14:08 OldCoder         Why ;( ?
14:08 markveidemanis   idk
14:08 markveidemanis   just looks funny
14:08 markveidemanis   ;( :( :) ;)
14:08 OldCoder         Mark Next op up will probably mute you
14:08 OldCoder         Not everybody likes CTCP pings over and over
14:09 * OldCoder       shrugs
14:09 OldCoder         If you behave I will consider running your world
14:09 OldCoder         Go write a story or learn coding
14:09 OldCoder         Zzz
14:13 Zeg9             There are many supertux textures in xmoo
14:13 markveidemanis_  Greetings
14:13 Zeg9             There are many supertux textures in xmoto*
14:13 markveidemanis_  moo
14:14 markveidemanis   Zeg9: can i have link to planes mod
14:14 markveidemanis   0ldCoder? OldCoder...
14:15 markveidemanis   o looks different
14:15 markveidemanis   in the panel
14:15 markveidemanis
14:15 markveidemanis   hello
14:15 markveidemanis   how's the inventory mod
14:15 mauvebic         for the millionth time, i am not cornernote lol
14:16 mauvebic         cornernote is gone
14:16 simion314        hi, how can i write same program in many microcontrolers(messecons mod) in an efficient wat?
14:16 mauvebic         he's gone to london to see the queen
14:16 Zeg9             markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vZ3NnNQ
14:16 simion314        i do not want to write the same code for 64 times
14:17 markveidemanis   http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=58814#p58814
14:17 markveidemanis   yay
14:17 Zeg9             http://ompldr.org/vZ3N0Yg
14:17 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: Hi moltenbot !
14:17 markveidemanis   and moltenbot is silent!
14:17 mauvebic         so hybrid dog is putting his stuff back and j4i is quitting? gonna need a news ticker to keep up with this stuff lol
14:18 markveidemanis   dont ruin the silence
14:18 Zeg9             We have a weird community
14:18 markveidemanis   ARRRRGGGGGHHHH
14:18 markveidemanis   yep
14:18 Zeg9             :D
14:19 sfan5            does anyone want to play a Minecraft Adventure Map with me?
14:19 markveidemanis   MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
14:19 markveidemanis   ip of server
14:19 mauvebic         zeg its definately looking multipolar these days lol
14:20 markveidemanis   sfan5: warning, i have slow pc, though
14:20 Zeg9             http://ompldr.org/vZ3N1bA
14:20 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: Moltenbot hi
14:20 Zeg9             Oh, it didn't work.
14:21 * Zeg9           is sad now.
14:21 DarkAceLaptop    how long should I wait for it to connect to a server?
14:21 markveidemanis   what was suppose to happen
14:21 jin_xi           DarkAceLaptop: it takes a while especially for servers with a lot of media heavy mods
14:21 Zeg9             There was a \n in the title
14:21 Zeg9             after hi
14:21 DarkAceLaptop    ah
14:22 DarkAceLaptop    is one minute a normal wait?
14:22 jin_xi           indeed
14:22 Zeg9             DarkAceLaptop, are you talking about media loading, node or item, or Connecting to server
14:22 DarkAceLaptop    Connecting to the server
14:22 Zeg9             The server must be down then
14:23 Zeg9             What ip is it?
14:23 DarkAceLaptop    several ones
14:23 DarkAceLaptop    oh
14:23 DarkAceLaptop    something happened now
14:23 DarkAceLaptop    magic.minetest.net
14:24 Zeg9             !up magic.minetest.net
14:24 moltenbot        Minetest server magic.minetest.net:30000 DOWN
14:24 DarkAceLaptop    couldn't resolve address
14:24 DarkAceLaptop    oh
14:24 DarkAceLaptop    !up 24.5.2.67
14:24 moltenbot        Minetest server 24.5.2.67:30000 DOWN
14:24 Zeg9             !up minetest.org
14:24 moltenbot        Minetest server minetest.org:30000 UP
14:24 Zeg9             Try minetest.org port 30000 to 30017
14:24 DarkAceLaptop    !up c55.me
14:25 moltenbot        Minetest server c55.me:30000 DOWN
14:25 DarkAceLaptop    :/
14:25 Zeg9             !up 94.23.33.108
14:25 moltenbot        Minetest server 94.23.33.108:30000 UP
14:25 DarkAceLaptop    \o/
14:25 Zeg9             !ping 65.55.58.201
14:25 moltenbot        host 65.55.58.201 DOWN
14:25 Zeg9             o.o
14:25 Zeg9             Click this ip x)
14:26 moltenbot        Minetest server 127.0.0.1:30000:30000 DOWN
14:27 moltenbot        Minetest server 127.0.0.1:30000 UP
14:27 DarkAceLaptop    lol
14:27 Zeg9             No
14:27 Zeg9             The best is this one:
14:27 Zeg9             !up 127.0.128.254
14:27 moltenbot        Minetest server 127.0.128.254:30000 UP
14:27 aldobr           hi all
14:28 Zeg9             😼
14:28 Zeg9             Hi
14:28 DarkAceLaptop    [✔]
14:28 Zeg9             😵
14:28 DarkAceLaptop    Media takes a while lol
14:28 Zeg9             I like the cat smileys :p
14:28 Zeg9             DarkAceLaptop, have you started singleplayer before going to a server?
14:29 DarkAceLaptop    yeah
14:29 DarkAceLaptop    or
14:29 DarkAceLaptop    you mean this session?
14:29 Zeg9             No, generally
14:30 Zeg9             Well then just wait ...
14:30 aldobr           hey whats the max resolution of a nodebox ?
14:31 aldobr           i am thinking about a way to design nodeboxes
14:31 aldobr           a layered approach
14:32 aldobr           drawing 2d figures
14:32 aldobr           1st layer : a 2d figure
14:32 aldobr           2nd layer : another figure
14:32 aldobr           etc
14:32 Zeg9             aldobr, 0.5 in all directions is the maximum, -0.5 being the minimum, for the size of a node
14:32 aldobr           -0.5 to 0.5
14:33 aldobr           this means 1
14:33 aldobr           but whats the ammount of subdivisions ?
14:33 Zeg9             There is no limit.
14:33 Zeg9             (I think)
14:33 sfan5            for anyone who wants to play my minecraft adventure map: 79.235.45.164:25567
14:33 aldobr           i was thinking about a way to create a nodebuilder node
14:33 sfan5            afk
14:33 Zeg9             The only limits are imposed by your computer
14:33 aldobr           to allow ingame nodbox creating
14:33 Zeg9             You can't add node in game.
14:33 Zeg9             They must be added on server start
14:33 aldobr           why ?
14:33 aldobr           hm...
14:34 aldobr           :/
14:34 aldobr           it would be cool
14:34 aldobr           right click a special node
14:34 aldobr           get a formspec with X x Y buttons
14:34 aldobr           press buttons to build a layer
14:34 aldobr           press next to go to next layer
14:34 aldobr           when finished
14:34 aldobr           press generate
14:34 aldobr           bam ! a new nodebox is created from scratch
14:34 aldobr           go to another node and file a recipe
14:34 Zeg9             aldobr, see painting mod
14:35 aldobr           paiting cannot do 3d things
14:35 aldobr           Zeg9
14:35 aldobr           imagine that you stack image over image
14:35 aldobr           this will create a 3d thing
14:35 aldobr           out of the pixels of each image
14:35 Zeg9             No, but only textures can be modified I think
14:35 Zeg9             That would be messy.
14:36 Zeg9             Oh, but there is a possible solution.
14:36 Zeg9             Use entities. There can be more than one entity per node
14:37 Zeg9             10 cents plizz âž“
14:38 * Jordach        sips tea
14:38 sfan5            john_minetest: what?
14:39 sfan5            john_minetest: minecraft
14:39 * sfan5          is now afk (really)
14:40 iqualfragile     john_minetest: there is a minetest-server running on the same server as moltenbot so localhost is up
14:47 * markveidemanis is playing minecraft
14:51 jojoa1997        can anyone help i need to make the npcs drop a mese crystal fragment look at lines 417-424  http://paste.dy.fi/ZEq
14:51 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: pastebin
14:54 jin_xi           Taoki[laptop]: check todays -dev log
14:55 jojoa1997        where is that
14:56 * Jordach        wonders when jordach became good at pvp
14:57 * jojoa1997      wonders when Jordach started playing Black Ops
14:57 Zeg9             Jordach, I'm worse...
14:57 jojoa1997        can anyone help
14:57 Jordach          jojoa1997, i have 390G on Black Ops 1 for 360
14:57 jojoa1997        LOL i did  not know
14:58 markveidemanis   who gas minecraft
14:58 markveidemanis   #has
14:58 jojoa1997        jordach could you help me with the mod
14:58 jojoa1997        not me
14:58 Jordach          hm?
14:58 jojoa1997        brb
14:58 Zeg9             jojoa, are you sure you need to do obj:get_luaentity()
14:58 Zeg9             Or wait...
14:59 Zeg9             Jojoa, check here
14:59 Zeg9             https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop/blob/master/init.lua
14:59 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: item_drop/init.lua at master ? PilzAdam/item_drop ? GitHub
14:59 Zeg9             For item dropping
14:59 Zeg9             => local obj = minetest.env:add_item(pos, name)
14:59 Zeg9             not add_entity, add_item
15:00 jojoa1997        back
15:00 Zeg9             jojoa1997, ^
15:01 jojoa1997        how do i make it add a ceryain object
15:01 Jordach          jojoa1997, i know nothing of the higher level minetest modding api
15:01 jojoa1997        i want the npcs to drop something when they die
15:02 jojoa1997        there is no errors with lines 417-424 but they dont do anything in game
15:02 Zeg9             minetest.env:add_item(pos,"default:mese_crystal")
15:02 Zeg9             jojoa ^ I think
15:02 jojoa1997        but how do i set the item addded
15:03 Zeg9             the item is default:mese_crystal here
15:03 Zeg9             just replace by what you want
15:04 jojoa1997        is this right  local obj = minetest.env:add_item(pos, "default:mese_crystal_fragment")
15:05 Zeg9             I think so
15:06 jojoa1997        nothing happens
15:07 jojoa1997        how would i make it work with  if self.object:set_hp(20) then
15:07 jojoa1997        hp(0)
15:08 jojoa1997        if self.object:set_hp(0) then do function(pos, item)
15:08 iqualfragile     ah, we are lucky, the models do have a license
15:09 jojoa1997        ?
15:09 jojoa1997        can you help
15:09 iqualfragile     even if its no real formal licence it states that no proffit shal be made and that credit should be given
15:10 jojoa1997        i gave credit in the forum topic
15:10 jojoa1997        can you help
15:10 Zeg9             iqualfragile: fine :)
15:11 jojoa1997        the error says name expectec near '('
15:11 jojoa1997        if self.object:set_hp(0) then do function(pos, item)
15:12 jojoa1997        just to forwarn i am a begginer
15:13 markveidemanis   Zeg9:whats the ip of the server u r on>
15:13 jojoa1997        [10:01] <jojoa1997> i want the npcs to drop something when they die
15:13 Zeg9             127.0.0.1
15:13 jojoa1997        private
15:14 Zeg9             singleplayer
15:14 markveidemanis   zeg, the minecraft server
15:14 jojoa1997        oh sorrry
15:14 jojoa1997        wrong person being talked to
15:14 markveidemanis   who has a minecraft server
15:14 jojoa1997        so any idea how to fix it
15:15 Zeg9             jojoa, send me your code, I'll try it
15:15 jojoa1997        k
15:17 Minetest-tan     GIT: celeron55 (Perttu Ahola) commited to celeron55/minetest: Initialize all member variables of LuaEntitySAO 0f1d2c127c 2012-12-23T07:16:46-08:00
15:18 DarkAceLaptop    are there any mobs in minetest?
15:18 markveidemanis   who has a MINECRAFT server
15:18 markveidemanis   sdzen?
15:18 jojoa1997        [url=http://ompldr.org/vZ3N2Yg]http://ompldr.org/vZ3N2Yg[/url]
15:19 jojoa1997        there is the download
15:19 Zeg9             DarkAceLaptop, there are mods for mobs
15:19 Zeg9             !g minetest simple mobs
15:19 Minetest-tan     Zeg9: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3133
15:19 DarkAceLaptop    o
15:19 Zeg9             !g minetest mob framework
15:19 Minetest-tan     Zeg9: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629
15:20 jojoa1997        this is not mobf but a different mob
15:28 markveidemanis   Zeg9, what you doin?
15:29 Zeg9             Fixing jojoa's mod
15:29 markveidemanis   linkkk
15:30 markveidemanis   whats the mod
15:30 markveidemanis   whats rmehd nfnhdjd
15:30 markveidemanis   whoops
15:30 markveidemanis   soz
15:33 * markveidemanis is on redcrab's server
15:40 markveidemanis   hi
15:40 markveidemanis   i am bored
15:41 markveidemanis   gtg
15:41 markveidemanis   *back
15:41 john_mt|afk      omg, i finally animated a pig!
15:41 markveidemanis   time travel?
15:41 markveidemanis   LINK
15:42 Jordach          was it for science?
15:42 Zeg9             lol jordach
15:42 Zeg9             so john, you're not so afk
15:42 Jordach          markveidemanis, dont ask for links to everything, people might not have put it online.
15:42 markveidemanis   really?
15:45 Jordach          john_minetest, does it look like this: http://i.imgur.com/SXhWn.png
15:45 markveidemanis   tpuggu
15:45 markveidemanis   piggu
15:46 markveidemanis   minecraft
15:47 jojoa1997        how do you make an on_activate
15:48 markveidemanis   scheme
15:48 markveidemanis   why
15:48 markveidemanis   maybe add an antennae
15:48 jojoa1997        how do you make an on_activate
15:49 markveidemanis   [15:47] <jojoa1997> how do you make an on_activate
15:50 markveidemanis   screenshot
15:50 jojoa1997        soryy
15:55 markveidemanis   p
15:55 markveidemanis   P
15:55 markveidemanis   i AM bored
15:56 Zeg9             john_minetest, do you want to make the UV map and texture for plane, or should I do it?
15:57 markveidemanis   Zeg9 is away:eating
15:58 Zeg9             Back.
15:59 davidpace        Morning all! :-)
15:59 markveidemanis   71.57.8.234
15:59 markveidemanis   good EVENING
16:00 davidpace        Lol, Good Evening to you markveidemanis
16:00 markveidemanis   good evening:)
16:00 davidpace        What is CTCP TIME mean?
16:00 markveidemanis   get local time
16:00 Jordach          huh - my twitter found something stupid
16:00 aldobr2          client to client protocol time
16:00 davidpace        Ahh okay
16:00 markveidemanis   /ctcp <name> <time, version>
16:01 jeffrash         OldCoder, can you give me world edit in minetest.org 30015?
16:01 jeffrash         I'd like to be able to backup my castle
16:01 Zeg9             Jeff, OldCoder is sleeping
16:01 Zeg9             Maybe I can though
16:01 jeffrash         ok, thanks
16:01 jeffrash         I'm just Jeff in the game
16:01 davidpace        My time right now is 10 AM
16:01 Jordach          Zeg9, basic_privs allows granting and revoking of interact and shout
16:02 jeffrash         11am here
16:02 jeffrash         ok, I want to be able to keep backups of my castle
16:03 Zeg9             Jeff, just one thing about worldedit, don't use it where you don't have permission ok?
16:03 markveidemanis   ARE YOU GIVING HIM WORLDEDIT?
16:03 markveidemanis   also, i found a bug
16:04 markveidemanis   if i connect with latest, i cant fly through walls...
16:04 Zeg9             mark, Jeff made a huge castle with only fly and fast
16:04 Zeg9             If you do same, maybe you'll have worldedit too
16:04 jeffrash         ok, I thanks
16:04 jeffrash         I will only use it to backup my castle
16:05 jeffrash         I lost 20+ hours of work on it yesterday
16:05 jeffrash         I would like to backup
16:05 markveidemanis   i made a house, but the backup screwed it up
16:07 aldobr2          zzzzzzzzzz
16:08 markveidemanis_  greets
16:08 * Jordach        + Pixel Shading + LSD + Music + GLSL = http://i.imgur.com/9hajl.jpg
16:09 Exio             markveidemanis_: uh? you need the 'noclip' priv for flying through walls
16:09 markveidemanis_  wtf
16:09 markveidemanis_  ohh
16:09 markveidemanis_  not in 0.4.4
16:09 Exio             yes in 0.4.4
16:10 Jordach          markveidemanis_, i read git and it is correct -- noclip is needed to fly through blocks
16:10 markveidemanis_  no, 0.4.4 allows me to go through walls, 0.4.? does not
16:10 Exio             0.4.4 is the last release and the first with that feature
16:11 VanessaE         good morning all..
16:11 Jordach          hello VanessaE
16:12 davidpace        Hello VanessaE
16:12 VanessaE         hi :-)
16:13 Zeg9             Hi VannesaE
16:14 * john_minetest  <3 xkill command
16:15 Jordach          fromy ctcp time it is: 1 day, 7 hours, 44mins and 26 seconds
16:15 Jordach          from my
16:18 VanessaE         1 day 7:44:26 for what?
16:20 Jordach          >jordach< CTCP TIME
16:20 Jordach          * Received a CTCP TIME from Jordach
16:20 Jordach          -Jordach- TIME Sun Dec 23 16:13:34 see?
16:22 Jordach          i just looked on omploader and one of the top files is Calinou's moreores
16:22 VanessaE         oh.  thought you were measuring time since some obscure Mayan event or something ;-)
16:22 Jordach          VanessaE, think.
16:22 ecube            VanessaE: Who cares about mayans now ;)
16:23 Jordach          Calinou, your moreores.zip is one of the hottest downloads on omploader
16:23 Jordach          http://ompldr.org/vZ3N3Nw/hiresmt.png VanessaE
16:23 VanessaE         oh you mean that weird religious holiday?  Hrm, I think I saw something on The Onion about it...
16:23 VanessaE         ;-)
16:24 VanessaE         interesting take on "high res" :-)
16:24 Jordach          Zeg9, hm?
16:24 Jordach          cant you just use /msg or a query?
16:24 Zeg9             No that was just a test, sorry for annoying
16:24 Jordach          http://i.imgur.com/nt6Nv.png -- Calinou check it out!
16:24 Zeg9             I should have tested on myself lol
16:24 Jordach          Zeg9, i didnt mind
16:24 * Jordach        nwas wondering why
16:25 Calinou          Jordach: this happened more than once :)
16:25 Jordach          lol
16:26 * Jordach        + Pixel Shading + LSD + Music + GLSL = http://i.imgur.com/9hajl.jpg
16:26 Jordach          hehe!
16:26 Calinou          pixel shading is for direct3d users
16:26 Zeg9             LSD takes an important part here
16:26 Zeg9             Drugs are bad.
16:27 Jordach          Zeg9, thats the joke
16:27 Jordach          the pc is on lsd
16:27 Zeg9             !g educational drugs minetest
16:27 Minetest-tan     Zeg9: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4103
16:27 VanessaE         dammit
16:27 VanessaE         wrong window
16:27 * Jordach        sniggers
16:28 Jordach          Zeg9, i can render that at 12000x12000
16:28 davidpace        I wanna see someone make a 50x50 texture pack :D
16:29 VanessaE         50x50?  pfft.  mine maxes out at 512x512 :-)
16:29 VanessaE         and one person did a 1024px one before :-)
16:30 davidpace        Who did?
16:30 VanessaE         I don't remember the person's name now
16:30 aldobr2          how does the engine behaves with 1024x textures ?
16:30 davidpace        That's nuts...
16:31 davidpace        What did they use? Paint Bucket to do it? :-)
16:32 aldobr2          i have an idea for a mod
16:32 aldobr2          that i wont make
16:32 aldobr2          a telephone booth
16:32 aldobr2          disable shout and people can only communicate using telephones
16:32 aldobr2          or make shout only short range
16:32 aldobr2          and long range communication needs phones
16:33 aldobr2          this would unclutter minetest chat
16:33 Zeg9             Yeah.
16:33 Zeg9             Good idea you have here
16:33 iqualfragile     "i added damage to the drugs to make the mod educational"
16:33 davidpace        Lol
16:33 aldobr2          hehe i dont find the drugs mod educational at all
16:34 sfan5            re
16:34 aldobr2          minetest should be free of any drug reference
16:34 VanessaE         drugs mod is...  questionable at best.
16:35 davidpace        Agreed
16:35 VanessaE         maybe the marijuana could be useful given its relationship to hemp, but the rest?  just plain dumb.
16:35 aldobr2          we have other sources of hemp-like material that are not related to marijuana
16:35 aldobr2          brazilian babaçu being an example
16:36 JesseH           Because cannabis is just like meth
16:36 VanessaE         not even close, JesseH and lets not start that discussion here.
16:36 JesseH           xD
16:37 davidpace        Hehe, do this convo in /msg :D
16:37 JesseH           Yeah not a good place.
16:37 Zeg9             Interesting discussion.
16:37 Zeg9             It looks like you know a lot about drugs lol
16:38 JesseH           Anyone made a hemp tycoon game?
16:38 JesseH           mod*
16:39 JesseH           It seems though, that hemp tycoon isn't exactly about paper, but it's the way you look at it I guess.
16:39 davidpace        Lol, Zeg9
16:40 davidpace        :-)
16:40 Jordach          Jeija, hey
16:40 Jordach          also, mesecons is almost a year old!
16:41 Jordach          i was there when it was posted
16:41 Calinou          more than, no?
16:41 Jordach          Calinou, 25/12/11
16:41 Calinou          k
16:41 davidpace        On Christmas.
16:41 Jordach          !g mesecons
16:41 Minetest-tan     Jordach: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=628
16:41 Calinou          oh, it was a christmas gift
16:41 VanessaE         hey, Jeija
16:41 Calinou          lol, first result
16:41 Jeija            I know, Jordach, posted on christmas
16:42 davidpace        Actually, It was on the 24th..
16:42 davidpace        Close enough!
16:42 Jordach          davidpace, remember time zones
16:42 davidpace        Oh, nyes yes. Thank you for reminding me :D
16:42 davidpace        *yes
16:42 Calinou          "nyes" -- when a nyan cat says "yes"
16:43 markveidemanis_  davidpace
16:43 davidpace        Lol
16:43 Jeija            Nothing so exciting this year, although I was planning another mod release...
16:43 davidpace        Yes markveidemanis_?
16:43 Jordach          Jeija, yes?
16:43 Jeija            I can't finish it till tomorrow, maybe new years eve
16:43 Jordach          2013. here we come.
16:43 davidpace        Yep
16:43 Jeija            surprise
16:44 markveidemanis   2013, cya tomorrow
16:44 Jeija            I thought I wouldn't be able to release it anyway after the 21st December
16:44 Jordach          Jeija, it was bullshit anyways
16:44 Jordach          austrailia would have been the first target
16:45 Calinou          australia lags, so it wouldn't
16:45 aldobr2          people created a lot of fuss about a simple calendar bug
16:45 davidpace        Haha
16:45 davidpace        Yeaaap
16:45 aldobr2          that wouldnt happen if the mayan calendar was done in pearl
16:45 Calinou          perl*
16:46 Zeg9             Just buy suicide boots if you planned the end of the world.
16:46 Jeija            Seems like I've started a conversation about the apocalypse -_-
16:46 davidpace        Hahahaha I was just looking at that mod!
16:46 aldobr2          suicide booths would be better
16:46 davidpace        Suicide Boots!
16:46 Zeg9             Agrees, suicide booths
16:46 * Zeg9           loves futurama
16:46 markveidemanis   suicide door
16:46 Zeg9             No, about suicide
16:47 markveidemanis   yay post pic of fry
16:48 Zeg9             http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3300000/Suicide-Booth-futurama-3305111-1024-768.jpg
16:48 * Jordach        hunts for the elusive TV remote
16:48 JesseH           Lua problem, if anyone feels like helping. Lets say that I have apple = "whats up". How do I split it up by the " " (space) and make "whats" and "up" seperate?
16:49 Calinou          concatenation!
16:49 Calinou          apple = "this is " .. "an apple"
16:49 Calinou          = this is an apple
16:49 Jordach          Calinou you beat me there
16:49 JesseH           No like
16:49 Zeg9             JesseH, did you mean "whats up":split(' ')
16:49 Calinou          (spaces are not added, you have to add it yourself like i did)
16:49 davidpace        Who likes the mese crystal?
16:49 * Zeg9           likes
16:50 JesseH           oh yeah split() that might be it
16:50 VanessaE         davidpace: I do :-)
16:50 JesseH           I need to get the first argument with a string returned, then respond the second argument.
16:50 Zeg9             VanessaE, surprising
16:51 VanessaE         because keeping a joke block purely because we already had it for a while and not acknowledging its usefulness is dumb :-)
16:51 Zeg9             JesseH: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/builtin/misc_helpers.lua#L77
16:51 davidpace        I would rather keep the Mese Block, But I am open to change :-)
16:51 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: minetest/builtin/misc_helpers.lua at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
16:51 JesseH           Zeg9, thanks
16:52 Calinou          VanessaE: suicide boots should be added to main game imo :P
16:52 VanessaE         heh
16:55 markveidemanis   i hate the new mese
16:56 VanessaE         why?
16:57 Zeg9             mark, there is a mod bi Jeija to put the old one back
16:57 markveidemanis   no complaint about look, but it makes error messages on startup
16:58 markveidemanis   cannot find texture for<steelshovel, [...]>
16:58 markveidemanis   generating dummy texture for <>
16:58 VanessaE         that's completely unrelated?
16:58 VanessaE         you probably need to re-install your game, your textures git deleted or corrupted.
16:58 markveidemanis   steelshovel, mesepick, more
16:58 markveidemanis   ok
16:58 VanessaE         got*
16:59 markveidemanis   then when i look in inventory, its the same
16:59 markveidemanis   also, why crtstals and not ingots?
17:00 VanessaE         because c55 said he sorta thinks of mese as an alien artifact or something, and making it into ingots would be too plain
17:00 Zeg9             markveidemanis, steelshovel thing is from my planes mod XD
17:00 Zeg9             completely unrelated
17:00 markveidemanis   http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3524
17:01 Zeg9             moltenbot, what is that?  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3524
17:01 moltenbot        Zeg9's link: [Mod] Mese Ingot And Mese lump (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
17:01 markveidemanis   but why 2 types
17:01 markveidemanis   default:mese should be the ore and the block
17:01 markveidemanis   whoops, i deleted minetest
17:01 VanessaE         impossible
17:01 markveidemanis   no its not
17:01 VanessaE         you can't make it both without going back to the old mese.
17:02 markveidemanis   right click+move to recycle bin
17:02 markveidemanis   huh, oh that!
17:02 VanessaE         duh :-)
17:02 VanessaE         you could make it an ore and make that drop mese blocks but that defeats the purpose of this change
17:02 markveidemanis   and the texture.....
17:02 VanessaE         is beautiful, thank you very much :-)
17:02 markveidemanis   could it be like default
17:03 markveidemanis   :-)
17:03 markveidemanis   yellow block made in mspaint
17:03 VanessaE         well if you don't like the texture, put in a texture pack :-)
17:04 davidpace        I think we could be more creative with mese
17:04 markveidemanis   yeh
17:04 VanessaE         so much complaining over the textures and not enough focus on functionality, jeez.
17:04 jojoa1997        i like vanessae's mese change
17:05 markveidemanis   zeg, what key is up for the plane
17:05 markveidemanis   oh, space
17:06 davidpace        I am not complaining, I think we could come up with something more creative then just a mese crystal -_-
17:06 VanessaE         davidpace: so...um...craft something using crystals/fragments/blocks?
17:06 davidpace        Not an ingot, not a block, not a crystal. Something more, something more creative
17:06 VanessaE         why does this creativity have to be part of default?  basic functionality is more important for this, i think
17:07 davidpace        Because without creativity everything would be dull
17:07 VanessaE         yes, but put too much into it and you limit what other people can do with it
17:07 davidpace        It can be basic, just something creative, not complex
17:07 markveidemanis   an ingot is more creative
17:07 davidpace        No mark
17:08 VanessaE         hardly.  ingots already exist in the game
17:08 davidpace        It's not
17:08 markveidemanis   maybe a mese booth
17:08 markveidemanis   :)
17:08 davidpace        Agreed, VanessaE
17:08 VanessaE         steel in default, and like 20 others between technic, more ores, diamonds, titanium, ...
17:08 davidpace        I kind of like mito551's change on mese :D MESE (as Military Enveloped Special Equipment)
17:08 VanessaE         ingots are boring and far too common.
17:09 VanessaE         mito551 tries to turn a word into a backronym :-)
17:09 davidpace        What does MESE stand for?
17:09 davidpace        Nothing?
17:09 VanessaE         Mese is a Finnish joke name for MSN Messenger or some such thing
17:10 VanessaE         it's a word, not an acronym :-)
17:10 thexyz           Jordach: so secure
17:10 davidpace        Okay
17:11 VanessaE         thexyz: regarding that bug - you probably need a HD texture pack, and you have to have item preload turned on to expose it, and I suspect focus follows mouse but without raise on focus/click.
17:11 VanessaE         I'll try again later and see if I can reproduce it.
17:12 VanessaE         at any rate you have basically be configured to cause that long wait at what used to be the black screen
17:12 VanessaE         have to*
17:12 davidpace        Lol, seems as if Google.com is down :D
17:12 VanessaE         davidpace: works for me.
17:12 davidpace        Doesn't for me...
17:12 davidpace        No browser I have works
17:13 davidpace        It just says:No site configured at this address
17:13 celeron55        Military Enveloped Special Equipment sounds kind of funky
17:13 VanessaE         davidpace: DNS error?
17:13 celeron55        that'd mean mese would be some kind of a box
17:13 markveidemanis   who will build on my server
17:13 davidpace        celeron55: I see your point
17:14 davidpace        I guess so VanessaE
17:14 aldobr2          simple solution
17:14 aldobr2          remove mese from the game
17:14 aldobr2          add all real world minerals
17:14 davidpace        But still, A crystal? Just doesn't sound right to me
17:14 aldobr2          and let the magic items be handled by mods
17:14 markveidemanis   celeron55: that would be cool: a box :)
17:14 VanessaE         aldobr2: realtest mod (I think)
17:14 davidpace        That is what mito551 has in his dwarves game modw
17:14 davidpace        *mode
17:15 VanessaE         well it's game, not a mod, but anyway
17:15 davidpace        MESE, in mito's game mode has a chance of dropping 4 ingots,    - Gold (moreores)          - Silver (moreores)          - Lead (moreores, instead of mithril)          - Copper (moreores)          - Ebony (dwarves)          - Steel (dwarves)          - Pobe (dwarves)          - Mithril (dwarves)          - Iron (default)
17:15 davidpace        SOrry about that
17:15 davidpace        Copy & Paste
17:15 VanessaE         that is, as c55 would say, horrible.
17:15 markveidemanis   [17:15] == markveidemanis was kicked from #gameboon by markveidemanis [wibble]
17:16 celeron55        i mean, mese being a box would be kind of like coins in super mario
17:16 aldobr2          i find mese to be just a kind of shortcut
17:16 markveidemanis   yay, MARio
17:16 davidpace        Haha, Yes celeron55, I'm not saying we should have it like this, I am just saying... That I kind of like it
17:16 aldobr2          dont know or too lazy to add a complex chain of materials to reach a certain effect ? add a magical item that does everything in just a step
17:16 Zeg9             Just make a mario mod then...
17:16 celeron55        completely senseful game-wise, but having no real-world sense whatsoever
17:16 VanessaE         celeron55: ironic you should say that:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4111
17:17 aldobr2          you can make "mese" the result of a complex metalurgy process
17:17 aldobr2          like ... cant remmember the english word
17:18 Calinou          alloy
17:18 davidpace        Oh gosh, Please nothing with Magic, Wizards, Potions, Enchantments etc. Please don't add anything that even resembles that into the default game! PLEASE!
17:18 aldobr2          yes
17:18 aldobr2          alloy
17:18 Calinou          read: no minecraft shit
17:18 davidpace        Agreed, Calinou
17:18 aldobr2          let magic be handled by mods
17:18 davidpace        Yes
17:18 VanessaE         Zeg9: that makes for an interesting idea though....  really tall walls of cloud blocks set say 10 nodes apart in a REALLY long hall, with blocks created and positoned to be like SMB :-)
17:18 aldobr2          mese can be replaced by titanium i most circunstances that mese is used
17:19 aldobr2          *in
17:19 VanessaE         davidpace: agreed, leave the RPG stuff to other mods
17:19 davidpace        Ehhh, no
17:19 aldobr2          others can be replaced by diamond
17:19 davidpace        Yes, VanessaE
17:19 aldobr2          etc, real world ores
17:19 celeron55        perfect realism isn't fun
17:19 davidpace        Yep
17:19 aldobr2          not about perfect realism
17:19 celeron55        it's just a thing any nerd would do and then get bored with it
17:19 markveidemanis   what about creepers:)
17:19 aldobr2          mods can unregister ores and add magical items
17:19 VanessaE         NO!
17:19 aldobr2          just a plain starting point
17:19 VanessaE         markveidemanis: BITE YOUR TONGUE
17:20 davidpace        Lol
17:20 Zeg9             I'm french, please...
17:20 aldobr2          but i find mese a "hack", a shortcut for real functionality
17:20 markveidemanis   OWWWW
17:20 aldobr2          (and its ugly as hell in current form)
17:21 davidpace        We need 3D mobs if any
17:21 markveidemanis   no, creepers are single use
17:21 davidpace        I would like mobs though :D
17:21 markveidemanis   no mobs, this is minetest
17:21 Calinou          no
17:21 davidpace        And?
17:21 Calinou          mobs would be better
17:21 aldobr2          mobs should be add by mods
17:21 Calinou          the game is quite boring when you don't build
17:21 davidpace        Calinou Agreed
17:21 Calinou          if I want to build shit in an unlimited game, I play sauerbraten or red eclipse
17:21 aldobr2          because mods can range from ultra high tech robots to medieval fairytale entities
17:22 aldobr2          *mobs
17:22 davidpace        And I don't care who says this is copying minecraft! We need melee or close up range mobs, and ranged mobs :D
17:23 aldobr2          well
17:23 aldobr2          for mobs, we need a pathfinding api
17:23 davidpace        I dunno about blowing up mobs though, that sounds to much like minecrap
17:23 aldobr2          i believe jordan tried to make a pathfinder in pure lua
17:23 aldobr2          i dont believe that this is efficient
17:23 markveidemanis   anyone know any good minecraft servers?
17:24 aldobr2          well, sorry for taking all the talk, now i will listen
17:24 aldobr2          that was my two cents
17:24 DarkAceLaptop    minetest > minecraft
17:24 markveidemanis   Noooooooooo
17:24 DarkAceLaptop    minetest's worldgen is amazing
17:24 markveidemanis   Noooooo
17:24 davidpace        Well, Minetest is better then minecraft
17:24 JesseH           DarkAceLaptop is right.
17:24 DarkAceLaptop    minecraft's is boring now
17:24 davidpace        Minecraft is stupid
17:24 DarkAceLaptop    ^
17:24 JesseH           minecraft = no scriptin && = java
17:25 DarkAceLaptop    loljava
17:25 markveidemanis   if it has unlimited height, cant it use it, enourmous mountains...
17:25 davidpace        Lol John
17:25 davidpace        YES Mark!!!
17:25 davidpace        Better, BIGGER mountains
17:25 markveidemanis   so, you wanna play minecraft
17:25 markveidemanis   lol
17:25 DarkAceLaptop    enourmous mountains are awesome
17:25 davidpace        And more plains :-)
17:25 JesseH           Anywho, how do I get the amount of objects in a certain position?
17:25 markveidemanis   no, BIGGER
17:25 DarkAceLaptop    and the caves that are formed by them
17:25 aldobr2          JesseH
17:25 aldobr2          get_objects_in_radius()
17:26 DarkAceLaptop    caves with water
17:26 markveidemanis   get<whateverthehellyouwant>
17:26 markveidemanis   <,>
17:26 davidpace        Yes
17:26 markveidemanis   yeh
17:26 aldobr2          JesseH check this out : https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
17:26 davidpace        I was talking about haveing water in caves
17:26 moltenbot        aldobr2's link: minetest/doc/lua_api.txt at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
17:26 JesseH           so why does "local list = minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20);" return "attempt to index field 'env' (a nil value)"
17:26 VanessaE         aldobr2: I just realized it was your mint/ASM mod I linked to :-)
17:27 VanessaE         you may want to update your description and recipes/images to account for your proposed changes. :-)
17:27 thexyz           JesseH: it's get_objects_inside_radius
17:29 aldobr2          VanessaE i will add more money based machines
17:29 aldobr2          like the telephone booth i am trying to make
17:29 VanessaE         ok
17:29 JesseH           thexyz, thanks
17:30 aldobr2          a telephone booth that charges 1 minetoon pences for each message :P
17:30 Calinou          let's add Minetestcoins®
17:30 Zeg9             And an online shop to buy them
17:30 JesseH           minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20);
17:30 Zeg9             with real money.
17:30 JesseH           Same error
17:30 JesseH           excuse me
17:30 JesseH           minetest.env:get_objects_inside_radius(pos, 20);
17:31 jojoa1997        this is the error http://paste.dy.fi/lLT
17:31 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: pastebin
17:35 markveidemanis   hey is minecraft port UDP or TCP
17:35 Zeg9             UDP
17:35 VanessaE         UDP
17:35 Zeg9             First :D
17:35 Calinou          UDP
17:35 Calinou          (:D)
17:35 markveidemanis   k
17:35 VanessaE         celeron55: is there any way for a mod to forcibly change the player's view/yaw?
17:36 celeron55        wait, what?
17:36 celeron55        the question was about minecraft
17:36 celeron55        MC uses only TCP as far as i know
17:36 VanessaE         ahahaha I read Minecraft as Minetest :D
17:36 Zeg9             Oh it was minecraft
17:36 Zeg9             lol
17:36 Zeg9             We all failed
17:37 JesseH           I asked a python question in #lua onetime. Normally those things don't work.
17:37 markveidemanis   who has MINECRAFT]
17:38 markveidemanis   join #lua
17:38 Zeg9             Mark, you haven't bought it as far as I know
17:38 markveidemanis   i have
17:38 markveidemanis   well, i got 4 free:)
17:38 markveidemanis   86.172.133.242:25565
17:39 JesseH           markveidemanis, you seem to be really focused on minecraft latley.
17:39 markveidemanis   try to connect to minecraft server from minetest
17:39 Zeg9             Yeah
17:39 markveidemanis   i know
17:39 Zeg9             markveidemanis, just go on #minecraft...
17:39 markveidemanis   we all know...
17:39 markveidemanis   there are a bunch of losers there:)
17:39 Zeg9             !up 86.172.133.242 25565
17:39 moltenbot        Minetest server 86.172.133.242:25565 DOWN
17:39 Zeg9             We can't connect to it
17:40 JesseH           they all play minecraft as well, what a ironic situation.
17:40 markveidemanis   i know, its a minecraft server
17:40 markveidemanis   in minecraft server console, i can ban players
17:41 JesseH           Congratulations on that
17:41 Zeg9             That's great.
17:41 jojoa1997        for this error http://paste.dy.fi/lLT should i change minetest.env to minetest or env
17:41 moltenbot        jojoa1997's link: pastebin
17:42 davidpace        CRAP!
17:42 davidpace        My email account has gotten hacked
17:42 markveidemanis   LoooLL
17:42 Zeg9             How?
17:42 JesseH           :/
17:42 VanessaE         uh oh
17:42 davidpace        They changed the password and secret questions!!!!
17:42 Zeg9             ah
17:42 VanessaE         report them immediately.
17:42 Zeg9             That's dumb heh
17:42 Zeg9             Must be "school friends"
17:42 JesseH           I was about to say.
17:42 davidpace        VanessaE, How would I do that without knowing who did it?
17:43 davidpace        No NO shcool friend
17:43 Zeg9             They have ip records, davidpace
17:43 davidpace        s
17:43 VanessaE         report the email address to the provider directly.
17:43 davidpace        I am homeschooled
17:43 VanessaE         they'll either figure out who it was or they'll reset your password.
17:43 davidpace        Yes
17:43 JesseH           It was one of your familiy members then.
17:43 Zeg9             Ah, that's fine. Must be some dumbass who think he's a hacker then
17:43 VanessaE         (or do nothign)
17:43 davidpace        NO
17:43 thexyz           Jordach: post your init.lua
17:43 davidpace        Alright
17:43 VanessaE         davidpace: since it's been changed, what was your old password?
17:43 davidpace        I have to go work on getting it back
17:44 JesseH           "Oh look guys, Im elite, I can brute force an email address."
17:44 davidpace        VanessaE, I will never tell you
17:44 VanessaE         (and if you get it back, do NOT reuse that password either)
17:44 davidpace        I won't
17:44 VanessaE         I only ask because I'm curious if it's what we would consider "weak"
17:44 Zeg9             Yeah. If you tell us then we can be sure you won't use it again lol
17:44 markveidemanis   i found in minecraft files...
17:44 VanessaE         e.g. a word, a birthday, someone's name, etc.
17:44 markveidemanis   max-build-height=256
17:44 Zeg9             markveidemanis, nobody cares about minecraft here
17:45 JesseH           Again back to me asking a python question in #lua.
17:45 markveidemanis   ]moo
17:45 Zeg9             Python rocks, lua too
17:45 JesseH           Zeg9, yes, but that's beside the point.
17:45 Zeg9             lol yeah
17:45 JesseH           :D
17:45 VanessaE         davidpace: was it something like what I said?
17:45 Jordach          thexyz, for what
17:45 JesseH           Let's go to #halo and talk about COD.
17:46 davidpace        VanessaE, No
17:46 thexyz           oops
17:46 celeron55        yeah, and let's go to #windows to talk about installing archlinux
17:46 VanessaE         davidpace: hm.  well at any rate, next time make it a "line noise" password (as I call it).
17:46 JesseH           Let's do both.
17:46 thexyz           jojoa1997: post your init.lua
17:46 thexyz           wrong hl
17:46 davidpace        Yes, VanessaE
17:47 VanessaE         davidpace: you know, stuff of the form: ^&*$g8re@!&*tyD)320      (and write it down :-) )
17:47 davidpace        ...
17:47 davidpace        Okay
17:47 davidpace        Lol
17:47 jojoa1997        so dont post my init.lua
17:47 VanessaE         (there's a reason I keep all my passwords in an encrypted file - they're all line noise and impossible to remember, save for a few I use frequently :D )
17:47 jojoa1997        thexyz:/\
17:48 thexyz           also try to use some of those æ ± ≤ ≥ °ȯȧė and like in passwords
17:49 markveidemanis   santa is coming
17:49 celeron55        passwords are quite useless against targeted cracking unless you use stuff like VanessaE does... but i wonder how davidpace's account got cracked
17:49 markveidemanis   łøł
17:50 markveidemanis   ħełłø
17:50 VanessaE         markveidemanis: oy, that makes the text look...wobbly :-)
17:50 celeron55        it's not like some person would specially target him, so they must have gotten the password from somewhere
17:50 thexyz           then you may also use some password manager like keepassx
17:50 markveidemanis   haha
17:50 VanessaE         celeron55: I tend to agree, but then again it could have been a simple data leak, I see that stuff happen a lot lately :-/
17:51 markveidemanis   voilæ
17:51 VanessaE         "Company X has suffered a breach in security.  X.yz million account records were compromised, possibly including credit card, social ID number, blah, blah, and password information."
17:52 markveidemanis   blah
17:52 celeron55        that's exactly what you hear every month
17:52 markveidemanis   ##security
17:52 john_mt|afk      yeah. some time ago it was the League of Legends accounts.
17:53 john_mt|afk      and now i am really afk.
17:53 markveidemanis   you are |afk!
17:53 VanessaE         celeron55: yeah, and it's starting to worry me a little...  some of those breaches are starting to get just a *little* close to corporations my Husband and I actually use
17:53 markveidemanis   |0|
17:53 markveidemanis   |o|
17:54 markveidemanis   lol+101=|O|
17:55 JesseH           Going to see about getting rid of ubuntu today, any suggestions on a replacement?
17:55 markveidemanis   lubuntu
17:55 VanessaE         Mint.
17:55 thexyz           JesseH: gentoo
17:55 VanessaE         or Xubuntu.
17:55 celeron55        try some rpm based distro just for the kicks
17:55 markveidemanis   xubuntu
17:55 markveidemanis   kubuntu
17:55 markveidemanis   mythbuntu
17:55 JesseH           I want to get away from debian guys
17:55 markveidemanis   "edubuntu"
17:55 celeron55        or archlinux, to be fashionable and sooooo bleeding edge
17:55 JesseH           Thats that point of the switch.
17:55 markveidemanis   redhat
17:55 markveidemanis   gnome
17:55 markveidemanis   puppy
17:55 thexyz           gentoo!
17:55 JesseH           I was thinking gentoo, arch, or slackware
17:56 VanessaE         celeron55: that settles it, you are certifiably insane :-)
17:56 markveidemanis   i will now type 1 key to the left of the keyboard
17:56 celeron55        VanessaE: wut? :P
17:56 markveidemanis   jr;;p
17:56 VanessaE         arch indeed :-)
17:56 JesseH           Something with a niace package manager
17:57 JesseH           I do like my apt-get install
17:57 VanessaE         Jeija: connection issues?
17:57 thexyz           archlinux definetly has newest packages, even newer than ~amd64
17:57 thexyz           JesseH: gentoo has the most powerful package manager
17:57 markveidemanis   get ubuntu
17:57 Zeg9             Arch
17:57 VanessaE         thexyz: and the most glorious way to fail to install a package :D
17:57 markveidemanis   ubuntu!
17:57 Zeg9             pacman -S <your package>
17:57 JesseH           markveidemanis, you play minecraft, sshh!
17:57 markveidemanis   pacman
17:57 thexyz           VanessaE: dunno, it just works for me
17:57 thexyz           except when it doesn't
17:57 markveidemanis   ssh
17:58 markveidemanis   SSH
17:58 markveidemanis   ?
17:58 VanessaE         thexyz: lol
17:58 Zeg9             Yeah, minecraft guys out of here
17:58 celeron55        gentoo is like arch in that extent
17:58 Zeg9             haven't tried gentoo yet
17:58 jojoa1997        is there a way to set the limit of how many entities there are
17:58 celeron55        it works when it works, and when it doesn't, you better have an another computer to search the wiki and forums
17:58 celeron55        but you can fix it by hand then
17:58 JesseH           Sooooo, arch then?
17:58 VanessaE         thexyz: well having used gentoo for a reasonbly long period (about 2 years I think) at one time, I can say without reservation or fear of contradiction that it is NOT for the faint of heart or for anyone who just wants their machine to "just work" :-)
17:59 markveidemanis   lol
17:59 VanessaE         of course that was 3 or 4 years ago I suppose :-)
17:59 thexyz           JesseH: try both in VM
17:59 thexyz           (you'll also have fun compiling gentoo inside vm)
17:59 celeron55        JesseH: are you prepared to update the whole system at least every month, and before doing that, looking through the news section of arch's website of things that you have to take into account in order to not break anything?
17:59 celeron55        if so, go ahead
17:59 celeron55        that applies for arch and gentoo
17:59 JesseH           Yeah, I'de like to upgrade really. I like a good challenge.
18:00 Calinou          lol
18:00 Calinou          thexyz: apt is powerful
18:00 markveidemanis   lollololol
18:00 Zeg9             If you update everyday then updates are fast
18:00 Calinou          gentoo's PM is not that powerful though
18:00 markveidemanis   no!"£"
18:00 * Calinou        says a random apt feature
18:01 Zeg9             apt-get moo
18:01 JesseH           I am still lost, so I will try them all via vm
18:01 Zeg9             This APT has super cow powers
18:01 markveidemanis   apt-get install hello random people you [message cut]
18:02 JesseH           sudo apt-get remove *
18:02 markveidemanis   NOOOO
18:02 markveidemanis   NEVER
18:02 JesseH           that obviousley removes the '*' from the end of that statement.
18:02 aldobr           hey
18:02 aldobr           its there any way to filter all chat messages ?
18:03 aldobr           i want to make shout ranged
18:03 aldobr           so you can only use shout to talk to someone inside a realistic range
18:03 davidpace        *Sigh* from my secondary account, I sent an email to account-security-help@cc.yahoo-inc.com for help
18:03 davidpace        I hope they can help
18:04 davidpace        Anyways
18:04 davidpace        I have to go
18:04 JesseH           Just get a gmail and be happy :D
18:04 aldobr           minetest.register_on_chat_message(func(name, message))
18:04 aldobr           ^ Called always when a player says something
18:04 aldobr           can i simply cancel the message ?
18:04 Calinou          nope, it is impossible to cancel chat
18:04 markveidemanis   nooooooooooooooo
18:04 markveidemanis   press f2
18:04 aldobr           i need a lua message filter
18:05 aldobr           to force a range to the user talk...
18:05 markveidemanis   noooooooooooooooooo
18:05 aldobr           else he uses a telephone or radio
18:05 aldobr           to talk longer ranged
18:05 markveidemanis   yesssss
18:05 markveidemanis   coooolll
18:05 markveidemanis   9*0
18:05 markveidemanis   (*)
18:07 aldobr           im trying to make a telephone system for minetest
18:07 markveidemanis   who will play blockforge with me
18:07 markveidemanis   _______          _     _______ (_______)        | |   (_______)                                  _  _____ ___   ____| |  _ _____ ___   ____ ____  ____   ____   ____| |_ |  ___) _ \ / ___) | / )  ___) _ \ / ___) _  |/ _  ) |  _ \ / _  )  _) | |  | |_| | |   | |< (| |  | |_| | |  ( ( | ( (/ / _| | | ( (/ /| |__ |_|   \___/|_|   |_| \_)_|   \___/|_|   \_|| |\____|_)_| |_|\____)\___)                                        (__
18:07 markveidemanis   that should say blockforge
18:07 markveidemanis   if you squint...
18:07 JesseH           *and suddenly, in a flash markveidemanis is banned*
18:08 Exio             hahaha
18:08 markveidemanis   [whoops]
18:08 markveidemanis   not agaun
18:08 markveidemanis   again
18:10 markveidemanis   who will play blockforge with me
18:10 JesseH           What is that?
18:10 markveidemanis   http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3907 <== this
18:11 JesseH           I want to play  a little.
18:12 aldobr           JesseH im on redcrab's
18:12 JesseH           Forgot the ip lol
18:12 markveidemanis   86.172.133.242 <== to blockforge...and beyond!
18:12 JesseH           aldobr, lets party up and do something normal minetesters would do
18:13 markveidemanis   yeh, all on my server
18:14 aldobr           something normal minetesters would do ?
18:14 aldobr           dig to 32k in search of nyan cats
18:14 Calinou          they spawn anywhere under sea, no?
18:15 aldobr           dunno
18:15 aldobr           never found one :P
18:15 aldobr           maybe thats why
18:15 aldobr           haha
18:15 JesseH           aldobr, I am on i think where are you
18:16 aldobr           road to desert city -> road to new riverwood -> road to humble village
18:27 JesseH           the world doesnt load worth a dang
18:33 Zeg9             brb, eating
18:40 DarkAceLaptop    ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
19:12 DarkAceLaptop    ^
19:37 mauvebic         !up mauvebic.strangled.net
19:37 moltenbot        Minetest server mauvebic.strangled.net:30000 UP
19:39 Jeija            A working multiplayer server list: http://i.imgur.com/o6YZs.jpg
19:41 RealBadAngel     wow
19:41 RealBadAngel     thats cool
19:42 thexyz           Jeija: where's your source code availible?
19:43 NakedFury        omg thats win potential
19:43 Jeija            not yet, thexyz, I need to improve it
19:43 Jeija            and I need someone to host the "central server"
19:44 thexyz           why does it need central server?
19:45 Jeija            Where should it get a recent server list from?
19:47 thexyz           oh, i thought it only stores visited ones
19:47 Jeija            It doesn't store visited ones yet
19:47 Jeija            but I may implement it
19:52 davidpace        Hi Again :-)
19:53 NakedFury        Jeija needs a new name. I propose Jeija "Freaking Awesome" lastname
19:58 davidpace        So many great texture packs! Too many to choose from! :D
19:59 NakedFury        throw a dice
19:59 kaeza            good evening
19:59 davidpace        I don't have any DICE!
19:59 Jordach          http://random.org
19:59 moltenbot        Jordach's link: RANDOM.ORG - True Random Number Service
19:59 Jordach          there, dice
20:00 davidpace        Thanks ;)
20:01 davidpace        The 3 I'm torn on is:  Medieval Castles, Minetoon, and HDX Textures  by VanessaE!
20:02 davidpace        1. is  Medieval Castles 2. is Minetoon 3rd is HDX Textures by VanessaE!
20:02 davidpace        Here it goes!\
20:02 davidpace            2
20:02 davidpace        Minetoon
20:03 davidpace        Minetoon it is! Sorry VanessaE! ;-)
20:06 Jordach          meh to minetoon
20:07 kaeza            HDX is awesome
20:07 kaeza            I tried the 128px pack
20:07 Jordach          na, hdx strains my pc like passing traffic
20:07 Jordach          blindfolded
20:08 aldobr           hi all
20:08 NakedFury        hi
20:08 kaeza            I have an e5700 dual core @3.1MHz x2
20:09 aldobr           you made me remember of something
20:09 aldobr           is minetest multi-threaded ?
20:09 kaeza            with integrated intel i965 it runs at ~50FPS
20:09 kaeza            aldobr: yes
20:09 aldobr           hm nice
20:09 aldobr           i will get a X4
20:09 aldobr           used
20:10 aldobr           i hope this improves my game speed
20:12 NakedFury        I think it will
20:14 davidpace        You know what, I'll take VanessaE's texture pack instead of Gambits Minetoon! Sorry Gambit!
20:16 Exio             kaeza: intel mobile?
20:16 Exio             ah, i see
20:18 RealBadAngel     davidpace, what about Haven tp?
20:18 kaeza            ?
20:18 davidpace        ?
20:18 davidpace        Exactly kaeza
20:18 kaeza            no actually intel series 4
20:18 davidpace        lol
20:19 kaeza            davidpace: ?
20:19 davidpace        davidpace, what about Haven tp?
20:19 davidpace        Quoted from RealBadAngel
20:19 davidpace        I was wondering what he means
20:20 davidpace        I can only guess its a texture pack
20:20 davidpace        Ahh yes, tp= texture pack
20:20 davidpace        Got it
20:22 kaeza            (18:15:23) davidpace: Exactly kaeza
20:22 kaeza            ?
20:23 davidpace        Because you went "?" as I went "?" I thought we were reffering to the same thing, but we werent
20:23 davidpace        Sorry
20:23 davidpace        VanessaE are you here?
20:24 davidpace        If you are here, please look at your server page on the forums!
20:24 kaeza            k
20:29 aldobr2          updated my mod
20:29 aldobr2          http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=48
20:29 moltenbot        aldobr2's link: View mod - Minting & Automatic Vending Machine - Minetest Mods
20:30 kaeza            aldobr2: cool
20:35 NakedFury        rarkenin: Considering some basic crystallography, mese shouldn't be a crystal since neither a microsoft messaging program nor 55 carbons(C55) can properly crystallize. The 55 carbons part is based on some simple back-of-the-envelope calculations, so I'll need to check it later.
20:35 NakedFury        is that guy for real? that is a post about mese as crystal
20:36 kaeza            lolwut
20:37 kaeza            do we have to have real physics/biology/chemistry in MT now?
20:37 NakedFury        apparently
20:37 NakedFury        but he mentions microsoft messaging program too
20:38 NakedFury        must be smoking some weird stuff
20:45 babyface1031     hi everyone
20:46 kaeza            man, just tell him already! the original idea of mese crystals (as I see it) is that MESE is a hard material like diamond, that is supposed to be the hardest material in game, hence, it should split into crystal shards. Not a bland material like clay or gold that is split into lumps.
20:47 kaeza            forms into lumps*
20:47 kaeza            hi babyface1031
20:48 RealBadAngel     NakedFury, mese comes from m$ messenger name
20:48 RealBadAngel     its an old joke
20:50 RealBadAngel     so original idea was a funny node called after msn messenger
20:58 davidpace        VanessaE your texture pack is awesome! :-)
20:58 jojoa1997        I agree ;-)
21:03 KikaRz           hah.
21:03 KikaRz           VanessaE, you there?
21:04 jojoa1997        i thinkshe is afk
21:04 jojoa1997        did not answer earlier
21:10 kaeza            back
21:17 jojoa1997        how do you set radius
21:17 jojoa1997        get_objects_inside_radius(pos, radius)
21:19 jojoa1997        anyone?
21:22 NakedFury        no idea
21:23 jojoa1997        does this work
21:23 jojoa1997        get_objects_inside_radius(pos, 20)
21:29 aldobr           hi
21:35 aldobr           my cat scratched my hand :/
21:35 aldobr           bad cat
21:35 aldobr           now i cant code
21:35 aldobr           :/
21:42 * Jordach        hates bash like terminals
21:42 aldobr2          i hate bash at all
21:42 aldobr2          actually i hate anything made by the creators of c language
21:43 aldobr2          AND c language
21:43 Jordach          c language is easy peasy
21:43 aldobr2          bash was not written by then
21:43 aldobr2          but was inspired by
21:43 aldobr2          so its on my hate list too
21:43 Zephyrus1497     Hey vanessa ur server isnt letting me log on
21:43 Zephyrus1497     nevermind
21:45 Jordach          for gods sakes gcc, move yo damn ass
21:45 davidpace        ... Who is he?
21:47 aldobr2          oh my
21:47 Zephyrus1497     is there a server that has the weather mod?
21:47 aldobr2          i typed /join #god
21:47 aldobr2          and the channel exists
21:48 Zephyrus1497     Who?
21:48 davidpace        ...
21:49 aldobr2          to troll or not to troll
21:50 aldobr2          oh ...
21:50 aldobr2          my fingers itch
21:50 jin_xi           lol
21:50 jin_xi           do eet
21:50 Zephyrus1497     is there a weather mod?
21:54 davidpace        How do I chat here through the irc mod?
21:54 davidpace        Ingame i mean
21:54 aldobr2          i am looking for a channel where god answers
21:54 aldobr2          is god connected to freenode ??
21:55 aldobr2          ¬¬
21:55 davidpace        aldobr don't be ridiculous
21:55 aldobr2          i am meaning the true god
21:55 aldobr2          (R)
21:55 davidpace        Ugh
21:55 aldobr2          (C)
21:55 aldobr2          True God (C)
21:55 davidpace        How do I chat ingame through the irc mod?
21:55 Zephyrus1497     can someone help me?
21:55 kaeza            hi davidpace
21:55 aldobr2          hhahah
21:55 davidpace        Hi kaeza
21:55 kaeza            what's the prob with irc mod?
21:55 davidpace        How do I use your mod?
21:56 davidpace        How do I chat here through it?
21:56 aldobr2          god is using freenod
21:56 aldobr2          he is just not online
21:56 davidpace        I installed it already
21:56 kaeza            davidpace: modify config.lua
21:56 davidpace        Gosh John, I'm not an idiot, Or maybe I am
21:56 Zephyrus1497     is there a good server that has the creative mode installed?
21:56 davidpace        And what do I add?
21:57 kaeza            davidpace: let's start with a simple test
21:57 kaeza            start the game
21:57 davidpace        Umm okay?
21:57 davidpace        Staring
21:57 davidpace        *Starting
21:57 aldobr2          #thelastchannelonfreenode
21:58 davidpace        I am in
21:58 kaeza            now in-game type "/irc_connect"
21:58 kaeza            you should see "Now you are connected"
21:58 davidpace        I did and now it crashed
21:58 kaeza            WTF??
21:58 kaeza            erm...
21:58 kaeza            error?
21:58 davidpace        Yep, lemme try once more. Minetest has been buggy today :/
21:59 * VanessaE       wanders in and falls asleep on the channel easy chair
21:59 kaeza            hey hey V
21:59 davidpace        Errored again
21:59 davidpace        VanessaE
21:59 VanessaE         hi
21:59 davidpace        Umm, please look at your server page on the forums
21:59 * VanessaE       looks
21:59 kaeza            davidpace: delete your debug.txt, start the game again, and when it crashes, upload your log and paste link here
22:00 davidpace        Umm oook
22:00 aldobr2          hi JesseH
22:00 JesseH           I need a server that isn't so dang laggy.
22:00 aldobr2          i believe no one will ever use my mods
22:00 VanessaE         david: yeah I saw that on the "every building block" structure.  I thought you revised it or something :-)
22:00 VanessaE         need me to protect the area for you?
22:01 davidpace        Yes please
22:01 davidpace        I didn't do it though
22:01 Zephyrus1497     Vanessae i cant load ur world its just grey al around me
22:01 JesseH           aldobr2, I want to make mods, but I have barley played yet ;)
22:01 VanessaE         ouch.
22:01 VanessaE         ok, bye bye to those three mods.
22:01 kaeza            JesseH: Y U NO PLAY YET??
22:01 VanessaE         server restarted without those three mods.
22:02 davidpace        Yay
22:02 JesseH           no server that doesn't lag me
22:02 VanessaE         much better now.
22:02 JesseH           I just wanna like do something like minecraft, survival
22:02 kaeza            JesseH: vanessae.mine.bz is tha best!
22:03 kaeza            try mcbride.homelinux.net if you like Survival
22:03 aldobr2          redcrab's the best !
22:03 kaeza            I can't play redcrab's. too laggy for me :(
22:03 davidpace        kaeza, what is that?
22:03 aldobr2          actually, redcrab lags a little
22:03 Zephyrus1497     wats the port kaeza?
22:03 davidpace        Hey kaeza I dunno if this is the right error: Access violation at 009CDFA4 write?=1 address=1807932272 16:00:46: ERROR[ServerThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Access violation
22:04 VanessaE         davidpace: sign onto the server plz
22:04 davidpace        Okay VanessaE
22:04 kaeza            davidpace: more context may make more sense
22:04 kaeza            please upload your log
22:04 davidpace        ?
22:04 davidpace        Oh, how?
22:04 Zephyrus1497     mcbride.homelinux.netkaeza wats the port for that server u put up?
22:05 kaeza            Zephyrus1497: 3000
22:05 kaeza            30000*
22:05 Zephyrus1497     ok thanks wait is it four 0's?
22:05 kaeza            yup, thrity thousand
22:05 Zephyrus1497     sorry my computer is really slow
22:05 kaeza            thirty*
22:05 aldobr2          why so many servers ?
22:05 aldobr2          this disperses the community
22:05 aldobr2          we need a single high performance server
22:06 davidpace        OldCoders servers are good
22:06 kaeza            aldobr2: everyone has their tastes
22:06 davidpace        Will this help kaeza?: Access violation at 009CDFA4 write?=1 address=1807932272 16:00:46: ERROR[ServerThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Access violation  In thread 418a4: C:\tmp\minetest\src\server.cpp:153: ServerThread::Thread: Assertion '0' failed. Debug stacks: DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD 4169c: #0  main (Leftover data: #1  ClientMap::renderMap) (Leftover data: #2  ClientEnvironment::step) (Leftover data: #3  Client::
22:06 kaeza            ones like servers crammed up with mods
22:06 JesseH           kaeza, you playing right now?
22:07 kaeza            davidpace: upload your debug.txt file to a site like ompldr
22:07 kaeza            JesseH: not right now
22:07 kaeza            butI may be in a bit later
22:07 JesseH           tell me when you do
22:07 kaeza            I'm having network issues here
22:07 davidpace        Pkay
22:07 davidpace        *Okay
22:08 aldobr2          \\\
22:08 kaeza            aldobr2: \\\o///
22:08 kaeza            :P
22:09 davidpace        Kaeza: http://ompldr.org/vZ3QxYQ
22:09 kaeza            davidpace: checking...
22:09 aldobr2          i believe i have anxiety disorder
22:09 aldobr2          i feel like a cat in a jail
22:09 aldobr2          without something to do
22:09 aldobr2          yet when i try to write code
22:09 aldobr2          i cant
22:09 Zephyrus1497     wats the forum page for the interact privs kaeza?
22:09 aldobr2          :/
22:11 davidpace        VanessaE: So you don't think you can do rollback? It'll take forever to figure out which blocks go where
22:11 kaeza            davidpace: this is good to know, I haven't tested IRC on Windows yet
22:11 davidpace        Okay
22:11 VanessaE         davidpace: for starters I don't know how to use it. :-)   and besides, I was under the impression that it adds a pretty heavy load to a server
22:11 kaeza            if it's not an error from another mod then my code may be broken
22:11 davidpace        Yea, whoever needs someone to test something out on windows, lemme know and I will do it
22:11 VanessaE         can someone confirm that?
22:12 Zephyrus1497     kaeza wats the forum page the server u posted so i can ask for the interact priv?
22:12 davidpace        VanessaE it doesn't do anything to redcrabs server
22:12 kaeza            Zephyrus1497: a moment please
22:12 davidpace        But i dunno exactly
22:12 Zephyrus1497     ok
22:12 VanessaE         redcrab's server runs on an Amazon AWS instance. :-)
22:12 kaeza            Zephyrus1497: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4057
22:12 moltenbot        kaeza's link: VanessaE's Server [0.4.4 git] (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
22:12 aldobr2          i bilieve its ont of the reason for redcrabs major lag
22:12 davidpace        VanessaE: I think it'd be good to make sure you can't do rollback
22:12 aldobr2          *believe
22:12 Zephyrus1497     thanks
22:13 davidpace        Redcrabs server hardly lags, and when it does its because of all the players and creations on his server
22:13 VanessaE         I'll enable rollback and see how it behaves then.
22:13 kaeza            err... was that the one Zephyrus1497? or mcbride?
22:13 Zephyrus1497     mcbride
22:13 davidpace        okay
22:14 davidpace        VanessaE will you have to reboot the server?
22:14 kaeza            Zephyrus1497: a moment
22:14 Zephyrus1497     k
22:14 VanessaE         davidpace: no, I can just turn it on.
22:14 davidpace        Okay cool
22:15 VanessaE         ok, rollback recording is now enabled.
22:15 Zephyrus1497     how would i use rollback?
22:15 VanessaE         it's something I have to use, but I don't know how it works yet
22:16 Zephyrus1497     oh
22:16 aldobr2          ?
22:16 davidpace        You could ask redcrab or cactuz
22:16 kaeza            Zephyrus1497: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4124
22:16 moltenbot        kaeza's link: Testing Server & Survival. (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
22:17 kaeza            but I don't know if it's up. I haven't seen kizeren nor his gamebot today (yes, he's using my IRC mod)
22:17 davidpace        VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1156
22:17 moltenbot        davidpace's link: [Mod] Rollback [0.1] [rollback] (WTFPL) (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
22:18 * VanessaE       read.s..
22:18 kaeza            !up mcbride.homelinux.net
22:18 moltenbot        Minetest server mcbride.homelinux.net:30000 UP
22:18 VanessaE         davidpace: that's jeija's mod, not the inbuilt rollback system
22:18 davidpace        Okay
22:18 davidpace        You don't think it'd be the same?
22:19 VanessaE         the command is similar but I need to learn more about it
22:19 davidpace        kk
22:20 NakedFury        finished my entrance to the Thousand Thousand Steps that leads to the Underground City that has No Name
22:20 NakedFury        http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/2gd5nlj8y
22:20 moltenbot        NakedFury's link: Screenshot Uploader
22:22 aldobr2          zzzzz
22:22 kaeza            hmm... is it possible to add oblique surfaces?
22:23 aldobr2          qwered made a oblique grass
22:23 aldobr2          dunno how
22:23 Zephyrus1497     does anyone kno if there is a server with the weather mod?
22:24 NakedFury        is there a weather mod?
22:24 Zephyrus1497     yes
22:25 kaeza            dunno about weather
22:25 aldobr2          anybody tried to model rain ?
22:25 kaeza            I know of 4seasons
22:26 NakedFury        I remember someone trying to add rain but encountering a limit some place on spawned entities
22:27 OldCoder         Back
22:28 aldobr2          that would be nice
22:28 aldobr2          rain and water streams
22:28 aldobr2          and objects that move because of water
22:31 VanessaE         bbl
22:31 NakedFury        it would need to check all non blocky objects and make them droppped items, the same way when the block that holds a torch is taken and the torch falls
22:31 NakedFury        that same principle should be given to flowers and the grasses and bushes
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22:41 OldCoder         ?
22:42 davidpace        Hi OldCoder!
22:44 iqualfragile     hi OldCoder
22:44 OldCoder         o/
23:01 jakssoul         Hola amigos.
23:01 Zephyrus1497     hi
23:01 jakssoul         How's it going?
23:01 Zephyrus1497     bored theres noone to build with
23:02 jakssoul         I might be getting on here in a minute, if you'd like?
23:02 Zephyrus1497     which server?
23:02 jakssoul         Whatever you'd like.
23:02 jakssoul         I don't mind, I'm a newb to Minetest. I played Minecraft for the longest time, though.
23:02 jakssoul         Then I went.. Oh yeah! This sucks. >_<
23:03 Zephyrus1497     im on vanessae's server but u have to ask for the interact priv on the minetest forums
23:03 jakssoul         She had me on her server last night when she helped me install the game./
23:03 jakssoul         I might already have it. Not sure.
23:03 Zephyrus1497     http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4057 well if u dont heres the forum url
23:03 moltenbot        Zephyrus1497's link: VanessaE's Server [0.4.4 git] (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
23:04 jakssoul         I'll look into it once I get my laptop charger working.
23:04 Zephyrus1497     ok
23:05 jakssoul         Any mods you'd recommend?
23:05 Kacey            hey guys im back
23:06 Zephyrus1497     for ur server?
23:06 Zephyrus1497     i mean world
23:06 jakssoul         For singleplayer.
23:06 kaeza            he hey Kacey
23:06 kaeza            jakssoul: computers :)
23:06 jakssoul         Already got em! They're awesome.
23:06 Kacey            windows 8 sucks...
23:06 jakssoul         Yes, yes it does.
23:06 jakssoul         Thank you, Kacey.
23:06 jakssoul         Haha. :D
23:06 Kacey            i have it now :'(
23:06 Zephyrus1497     i havent really used any mods yet but im going to try some out in a little bit in a different window
23:07 jakssoul         Uninstall. Get Linux. Easy fix. I know, seeing that Windows Logo is a hardcore error message.
23:07 jakssoul         XD
23:07 jakssoul         Something didn't go right if you see that! Hahahaha.
23:07 kaeza            ?
23:07 Kacey            grandparents wont let me
23:07 jakssoul         Oh that's too bad.
23:07 jakssoul         Get a flash drive? Run a LIVE USB?
23:08 OldCoder         Sure
23:08 OldCoder         That works easy
23:08 jakssoul         Ready for sarcastic messagee....
23:08 OldCoder         ?
23:08 jakssoul         Or were you being serious?
23:08 OldCoder         I *make* those things
23:08 OldCoder         Yes. I make them myself.
23:08 Kacey            i need to set up a vm...
23:08 jakssoul         Live USB's?
23:08 OldCoder         <-- distro developer
23:08 OldCoder         Sure
23:08 jakssoul         Yeah, it's very easy.
23:08 OldCoder         I carry the whole world on a keychain
23:09 jakssoul         Not to make distros. But to make Live USBS.
23:09 OldCoder         I do both I assure you
23:09 jakssoul         I have like, six different distros on my USB stick right now.
23:09 OldCoder         Yep
23:09 jakssoul         I meant making distros is difficult.
23:09 OldCoder         I also make a MultiOS CD
23:09 OldCoder         It takes a while
23:09 jakssoul         I can as well.
23:09 jakssoul         Not with my own distros, though. I can't do that.
23:09 Kacey            u have 2 isos on my usb stick
23:10 jakssoul         Use YUMI MULTIBOOT to install them.
23:10 jakssoul         Bye, john_minetest.
23:10 Kacey            WHO CHANGED THE LOOK ON MINETEST.NET!?!!?!
23:10 jakssoul         I'm going to cut someone if my laptop doesn't start charging in the next five minutes.
23:11 jakssoul         It's been that way for a while, I think?
23:11 Zephyrus1497     is it plugged in sir?
23:11 jakssoul         Zephyrus1497, yes it is. Hahaaa.
23:11 Zephyrus1497     oh well i got nothin then
23:11 jakssoul         I was using this outlet last night. >_<
23:12 jakssoul         BAM! Got it.
23:12 jakssoul         Now I can get some work done.
23:12 Kacey            brb live tiles time
23:12 Zephyrus1497     ok cool if u get on i could sho u my secret base
23:12 jakssoul         Ew. Have fun.
23:12 jakssoul         Give me the server info?
23:12 Kacey            k it works
23:12 Zephyrus1497     vanessae.mine.bz port 30000
23:13 Kacey            speedy little computer...
23:13 jakssoul         Connected. Laggy, but connected.
23:14 Zephyrus1497     hmm r u jamese9?
23:14 jakssoul         Si, senior.
23:14 Zephyrus1497     ok
23:14 jakssoul         Nevermind, I'm at 0% media.
23:14 Zephyrus1497     ill be there in a sec
23:14 jakssoul         Hang on.
23:14 jakssoul         I'm getting nothing.
23:14 Kacey            i dont think minetest works on windows 8...
23:14 jakssoul         I don't know why it wouldn't?
23:14 jakssoul         Like I said: LiveUSB some linux!
23:15 Kacey            wont load
23:15 jakssoul         Why not?
23:15 Kacey            idk i cant see the main menu
23:15 jakssoul         That didn't work. Aborted itself.
23:16 Kacey            got it
23:16 jakssoul         Zephyrus, it's not allowing me to connect.
23:17 jakssoul         "Unsupported Texture Format"
23:17 jakssoul         There's a bunch wrong with it.
23:17 Zephyrus1497     take out ur texture pack
23:17 Zephyrus1497     i had to
23:17 jakssoul         Just delete it?
23:17 Kacey            just wait and it will load
23:17 jakssoul         No, Kacey, it won't. It aborts itself.
23:17 Zephyrus1497     no just move it to the desktop
23:17 jakssoul         Uggghh, fine.
23:17 Kacey            ooh
23:18 jakssoul         What do I remove? /minetest/textures? Or, /minetest/textures/all OR, /minetest/textures/base   ?
23:19 Zephyrus1497     did u install any texture pack whenu downloaded the game?
23:19 jakssoul         Nope.
23:19 jakssoul         Just whatever was default.
23:19 Zephyrus1497     then it should be fine
23:19 Kacey            thinkill make my own texture pack
23:19 kaeza            Kacey: +1
23:19 jakssoul         Someone needs to make a pokemon style texture pack..
23:19 Kacey            do you guys see me on?
23:19 Zephyrus1497     try to logon again and tell me wat it says
23:19 Zephyrus1497     i do
23:19 jakssoul         I know MineCraft has one.
23:20 Kacey            is my guy blonde
23:20 Zephyrus1497     they already made a pokemon texture pack
23:20 Zephyrus1497     no hes not blonde
23:20 Kacey            glasses?
23:20 Zephyrus1497     no
23:20 Kacey            darn
23:20 Zephyrus1497     regular default guy
23:20 jakssoul         Could not open file of texture: boat.png
23:20 jakssoul         Loaded mesh: boat.x
23:20 jakssoul         Could not open file of texture: cart.png
23:20 jakssoul         Loaded mesh: cart.x
23:20 jakssoul         Could not open file of texture: character.png
23:20 jakssoul         Loaded mesh: character.x
23:20 jakssoul         Could not open file of texture: ufo.png
23:20 jakssoul         Could not open file of texture: ufo.png
23:20 jakssoul         Loaded mesh: ufo.x
23:20 Zephyrus1497     let it load it will
23:21 Kacey            going to have to give VanessaE my player texture again
23:21 jakssoul         ERROR[main] ATLAS is FULL
23:21 Zephyrus1497     it says the same thing for me eveytime
23:21 Kacey            thats alright
23:21 jakssoul         All of that?
23:21 Zephyrus1497     i still get on
23:21 jakssoul         It's not allowing me to.
23:21 Kacey            says the same for me
23:22 kaeza            jakssoul, Zephyrus1497: set 'enable_texture_atlas = false' in config file
23:22 Zephyrus1497     ask vanessae wats wrong but i can see u guys on here
23:22 kaeza            Kacey: ^
23:22 jakssoul         On it, kaeza.
23:22 Zephyrus1497     im on kaeza ive been on im trying to help them
23:22 jakssoul         Nevermind, not necessary. It's working now.
23:22 Kacey            uugh
23:23 Kacey            hey OldCoder
23:24 OldCoder         Hi
23:24 jakssoul         Yup. I have 0 privaleges.
23:24 jakssoul         SPELLED THAT WRONG!
23:24 Kacey            im working on a new mod
23:24 Zephyrus1497     go to http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4057
23:24 moltenbot        Zephyrus1497's link: VanessaE's Server [0.4.4 git] (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
23:25 Zephyrus1497     jakssoul
23:25 jakssoul         I don't think I care enough to.
23:25 jakssoul         Sorry!
23:26 Zephyrus1497     oh
23:26 Zephyrus1497     do u kno any servers where i can get the interact priv by default?
23:26 jakssoul         Make your own?
23:27 jakssoul         I suppose that'd be more fun anyway.
23:27 jakssoul         BRB
23:27 Zephyrus1497     cant dont have a real ip address
23:27 Zephyrus1497     supposedly
23:27 Zephyrus1497     try wazuclan.com port 30000
23:27 Kacey            just play singleplayer
23:27 Kacey            wazuclan.com... wow
23:27 Zephyrus1497     or minetest.org port 20007
23:28 Zephyrus1497     much better
23:28 Zephyrus1497     30007
23:28 Zephyrus1497     sorry
23:28 Kacey            hey OldCoder do you have a 0.4.4 server?
23:29 OldCoder         They all are now
23:29 OldCoder         Except Europe which will be updated Kacey
23:29 Kacey            im not in europe
23:32 Kacey            O.o
23:32 jakssoul         Can you guys believe Minecraft has 10,000,000+ players? It costs $20!
23:32 jakssoul         This amazing game costs, ya know, $0.00, it's also OPEN SOURCE.
23:32 jakssoul         Why does this thing not have more momentum?
23:35 Kacey            how many gb is 500000 kb?
23:36 jakssoul         I don't even think it's one?
23:36 RealBadAngel     /1024 /1024
23:36 jakssoul         It's about .5 GB
23:36 jakssoul         So, 500MB?
23:37 jakssoul         488MB, actually.
23:37 jakssoul         May I ask why?
23:37 Kacey            no reason
23:38 jakssoul         Oh, of course not. You downloading 488MBs of p0rn? xD
23:38 Kacey            naw i don do that
23:38 jakssoul         Kidding. Kidding..
23:39 Kacey            how do i burn an iso to a usb stick?
23:39 jakssoul         What ISO?
23:39 Kacey            windows xp
23:39 jakssoul         I have an dialog window with you, just message me there.
23:41 kaeza            Kacey: universal usb installer
23:42 jakssoul         Already told him.
23:42 kaeza            I used it to "burn" Puppy Linux to usb stick
23:42 jakssoul         I recommended YUMI, but either works fine.
23:43 jakssoul         I've got Lucid, Slacko, and Precise Puppy on one USB stick. As well as OpenSuse (as per some guys instructions last night) and Xubuntu.
23:44 jakssoul         Something else too... oh! Slitaz.
23:45 jakssoul         kaeza, question.
23:45 kaeza            yes?
23:45 jakssoul         Can you install Windows XP to a hard drive while using an XP Live USB?
23:45 jakssoul         XP doesn't have any kind of software that will do that, does it?
23:45 kaeza            hmm dunno
23:46 kaeza            haven't tested it
23:46 Kacey            ooh sure y donti just message kaeza lol
23:46 jakssoul         Off to google!
23:46 jakssoul         Then just message kaeza. He didn't know either.
23:46 jakssoul         I'm just trying to help you out.
23:46 kaeza            jakssoul: just for the record, it was not me who said "GIYF" :P
23:46 jakssoul         You're wanting to do something most people do the opposite of: Put windows on their computer. Gross!
23:47 Kacey            i have to...
23:47 jakssoul         Like I said: Gross. So there isn't much documentation on it.
23:47 jakssoul         I'm searching now.
23:48 Kacey            well i also have the xubuntu iso...
23:48 Kacey            maybe i will set up a multiboot and run xubuntu when nobody is looking
23:48 jakssoul         I'd really recommend you install that. It's soooo much nicer. But I'm trying to figure something out for Windows.
23:49 jakssoul         What do your Grandparents have against Linux?
23:49 Kacey            idk
23:49 jakssoul         http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+install+windows+from+USB
23:49 moltenbot        jakssoul's link: Let me google that for you
23:49 jakssoul         There ya go.
23:51 jakssoul         OR!
23:51 jakssoul         http://www.komku.org/2009/09/wintoflash-guide-install-windows-xp.html#.UNeY1XZMHlQ
23:51 moltenbot        jakssoul's link: WinToFlash Guide - Install Windows XP from USB Flash drive
23:52 jakssoul         I win! :D
23:53 Kacey            lol no i win
23:54 jakssoul         You're welcome, pal. :P
23:54 Kacey            i didnt use your link
23:54 jakssoul         >_< Then why did you ask for help..
23:54 Kacey            YUMI did it for me
23:55 Kacey            well bbl guys
23:56 jakssoul         Oh, well, I told you about YUMI!!!!! :D
23:56 jakssoul         Imma get off and singleplayer some Minetest. I'll be back on later. See ya!