Time  Nick            Message
00:00 kaeza           VanessaE: core::position2d<s32> pos_to(0,0);
00:00 kaeza           WTF??
00:00 davidpace_      Alright, please try connecting again. Port:30000 Address: 71.57.8.234 0.4.4 latest
00:00 kaeza           I mean, why don't just POINT2D pos = { 0, 0 };
00:01 NekoGloop       because celeron
00:01 VanessaE        davidpace_: DOA.
00:01 davidpace_      DOA?
00:01 VanessaE        Dead On Arrival
00:01 VanessaE        it don't work :-)
00:01 davidpace_      Alright
00:02 marktraceur     kaeza: There's probably other constructor-type things that need to happen.
00:02 davidpace_      Does the protocol for the port forwarding need to be TCP or  UDP?
00:03 davidpace_      Or both?
00:03 kaeza           hmmm
00:04 kaeza           marktraceur: http://www.softpanorama.org/Lang/Cpp_rama/humor.shtml
00:04 moltenbot       kaeza's link: C++ Humor
00:05 kaeza           "C++ : Where friends have access to your private members."    — Gavin Russell Baker.
00:05 jordan4ibanez   Where was that mod that made the craft menu textured?
00:06 VanessaE        davidpace_: UDP.
00:06 jordan4ibanez   It used textures from a minecraft texture pack
00:06 VanessaE        but you may as well forward both
00:06 davidpace_      Okay Thanks VanessaE
00:06 VanessaE        sooner or later MT will be using TCP
00:06 OldCoder        More reliable
00:07 VanessaE        (thexyz's remote media patch notwithstanding)
00:07 OldCoder        Separate level
00:07 davidpace_      That may have been the problem, I was forwarding TCP :)
00:07 OldCoder        Yep
00:09 kaeza           what does the `N' in the `[crackN' transform mean? Crack animation frame?
00:09 VanessaE        no idea
00:10 VanessaE        davidpace_: try forwarding UDP
00:10 kaeza           nvm
00:10 kaeza           found it
00:11 davidpace_      I did, I am changing settings, and mods. Before I ask you to try again :).
00:11 davidpace_      Don't try yet.
00:12 NekoGloop       ... gloop is hungwy
00:12 NekoGloop       feed gloop pwease. :3
00:12 davidpace_      Whenever I try to create a new world in 0.4.4 it keeps freezing up and crashing -_-
00:13 jordan4ibanez   does anybody know what i'm talking about? there was a mod that textured the craft menu, and it had a red ribbon on the top
00:13 NekoGloop       yeah
00:13 NekoGloop       dunno where it is
00:14 NekoGloop       < will work for food
00:14 * Octupus       gives NekoGloop a big pot of skittles     TASTE THE RAINBOW!!!!!
00:14 davidpace_      ...
00:14 * NekoGloop     throws nyancat at Octupus
00:14 NekoGloop       TASTE IT
00:14 Octupus         XD
00:14 davidpace_      ...
00:14 * Octupus       ouch
00:15 marktraceur     Well, that escalated quickly
00:15 Octupus         hi Uberi
00:15 Uberi           hey Octupus
00:16 * Uberi         is rewriting the ucScript interpreter
00:16 * NekoGloop     throws nyancat at Uberi
00:16 * Octupus       is trying to make a adventure map the dumbass trees dont wanna grow :l
00:16 * Uberi         throws default:nyancat_rainbow at NekoGloop
00:16 * NekoGloop     punts a kitten at Uberi
00:16 Uberi           Octupus: according to the ABM def it should take around 10 real life minutes
00:16 Octupus         :/
00:17 * Uberi         throws a spoon at NekoGloop
00:17 Octupus         thanks for the info
00:17 Uberi           no problem ;)
00:17 * NekoGloop     throws FF4 at Uberi
00:17 Octupus         :)
00:17 * Uberi         throws an exception at NekoGloop
00:17 * Octupus       sets a fakeglass under NekoGloop ,and watched him fall to his death
00:17 NekoGloop       what, you dont want final fantasy 4? D:
00:18 * Uberi         throws an intel integrated graphics chip at NekoGloop
00:18 NekoGloop       ow
00:18 NekoGloop       you poked me
00:18 Octupus         why are we using /me again?
00:18 * NekoGloop     again
00:18 * Uberi         likes to use /me
00:18 Octupus         XD
00:18 * VanessaE      tosses NekoGloop an apple
00:19 * NekoGloop     tosses NekoGloop an apple
00:19 VanessaE        here, golden delicious :)
00:19 * Octupus       pokes VanessaE and asks for his SKITTLES
00:19 VanessaE        well the laptop's new charger seems to work
00:19 VanessaE        SKITTLES!!!!!
00:19 * VanessaE      steals all
00:19 * Uberi         eats the skittles
00:19 davidpace_      Why is 0.4.4 not loading any of my games???
00:20 Uberi           davidpace_: is there an error?
00:20 Uberi           if so, what is it?
00:20 VanessaE        davidpace_: no idea?  what errors?
00:20 davidpace_      It freezes up when its creating a client
00:20 davidpace_      No errors. Just freezes
00:20 Uberi           what's at the end of your debug.txt?
00:20 VanessaE        strange; are you using a big texture pack/
00:20 VanessaE        ?
00:20 davidpace_      Lemme look.
00:20 Octupus         NO MY SKITTLES!!!!!!!!
00:21 * VanessaE      gives Octupus a single skittle.
00:21 jordan4ibanez   where is the really nice particle mod?
00:21 * Octupus       looks at it carefully then pops it in his mouth
00:21 Uberi|Away      jordan4ibanez: cornernote's?
00:21 VanessaE        jordan4ibanez: https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/tree/master/mods/particles
00:21 moltenbot       VanessaE's link: minetest-megapack/mods/particles at master ? cornernote/minetest-megapack ? GitHub
00:21 * Octupus       then pulls out another bag of skittles and NOOMS it in Vanessa's FACE
00:22 Octupus         :)
00:22 VanessaE        nooms?
00:22 davidpace_      This is at the end of the debug.txt:  18:21:17: INFO[main]: SourceImageCache::getOrLoad(): No path found for ""
00:22 VanessaE        zoom + nom?
00:22 VanessaE        :)
00:22 Octupus         like the sound u make
00:22 Octupus         while you eat
00:22 Octupus         nom nom nom nom
00:22 VanessaE        that's "nom" :-)
00:22 Octupus         o :)
00:22 jordan4ibanez   the boats mod is the best thing ever
00:22 Octupus         stupid tree :/
00:23 davidpace_      Anybody know what it means?:  18:21:17: INFO[main]: SourceImageCache::getOrLoad(): No path found for ""
00:23 jordan4ibanez   I'm still trying to find that textured craft menu
00:23 VanessaE        davidpace_: no clue
00:23 davidpace_      Okay :(
00:23 VanessaE        jordan4ibanez: unified inventory I think can do that, or technic inventory
00:24 jordan4ibanez   no, there was one that did it to the craft inventory, and it had nice textures, it had a red ribbon at the top
00:25 VanessaE        ah yes
00:25 davidpace_      I think my pc just needs to reboot :) brb in 5
00:26 VanessaE        jordan4ibanez:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4001
00:26 moltenbot       VanessaE's link: [Mod] XGUI [0.1][xgui] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
00:26 VanessaE        maybe you mean this?
00:29 Octupus         !up
00:29 moltenbot       Minetest server !up:!up DOWN
00:30 Octupus         VanessaE, server up?
00:30 VanessaE        !up vanessae.mine.bz
00:30 moltenbot       Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP
00:30 davidpace       Yep! PC Reboot did the trick!
00:30 davidpace       No the server is not up yet
00:30 davidpace       Oh, sorry I thought you were reffering to me :(
00:30 Octupus         its ok :)
00:31 Octupus         VanessaE, no more mesecons :(
00:31 VanessaE        Octupus: mesecons is installed on my server?
00:31 Octupus         i thought u said u removed it
00:31 VanessaE        I put it back.
00:31 Octupus         OOOO :D
00:32 VanessaE        it was only removed for testing and debugging
00:32 Octupus         :o
00:32 Octupus         I wonder is my creeper still stands
00:32 VanessaE        when I last looked, yes
00:32 Octupus         i shall check again :D
00:33 VanessaE        damn you're fast.
00:33 VanessaE        ninja'd on my own server :-)
00:33 Octupus         :D
00:38 davidpace       Alright please try once more Addrss: 71.57.8.234 Port: 30000
00:39 davidpace       *Address
00:39 davidpace       If it doesn't work I'll just stop and continue later
00:39 VanessaE        nope, dead.
00:39 davidpace       Alright
00:40 davidpace       Alright, cya later guys :)
00:49 jordan4ibanez   we should make the default texture pack faithful pack
00:49 jordan4ibanez   include the boat mod, the tnt mod, and mesecons
00:50 jordan4ibanez   and have a party
00:53 Uberi           I like your style :P
00:53 Uberi           but especially mesecons, yes
01:00 VanessaE        zzzz
01:01 VanessaE        mesecons +100000000
01:01 VanessaE        but there is a problem with the idea:
01:01 VanessaE        celeron55 is slow to accept changes that don't improve some core function of the engine
01:02 VanessaE        my mese changes have been pending for a few days now, and yet they're a definite improvement, if non-core
01:02 Uberi           VanessaE: I'm kind of on the edge about the MESE thing, doesn't it break backwards compat?
01:02 VanessaE        I'm trying to get them pushed in so that the UFOs mod can use them - after all c55 says mese is sort of an alien artifact, so what better mod to first use them than UFOs
01:02 Uberi           neat :P
01:03 VanessaE        Uberi: not directly - there's a compatibility recipe included so old mods would still work
01:03 VanessaE        dig mese -> get mese crystal -> craft crystal + stone back to mese ore -> use that in old recipes that just call for "mese".
01:03 Uberi           VanessaE: ah, I understand now
01:03 VanessaE        otherwise, dig mese -> get crystal -> use that or craft it into fragments or blocks and use those.
01:04 Uberi           so mese blocks are default:mese, right?
01:04 Uberi           or is that the ore
01:04 VanessaE        mese "blocks" are mese blocks :-)
01:04 VanessaE        default:mese is the "ore".
01:04 Uberi           ah
01:04 VanessaE        default:mese_crystal is what it drops when dug
01:05 VanessaE        craft 9 to get a block, or craft just 1 to get 9 fragments, which stuff like mesecons should use.
01:05 VanessaE        you can try it out on my server.
01:05 NakedFury       please use a better alias, we need to drop the _ in aliases
01:06 VanessaE        NakedFury: no aliases are being used.
01:06 VanessaE        this is all straight code.
01:06 VanessaE        Uberi: sign onto vanessae.mine.bz:30000 and give it a try.
01:06 NakedFury       add a crystal alias
01:06 VanessaE        celeron55 can add that if he wants, I don't see a need for it
01:07 Uberi           sure, one moment
01:08 OldCoder        frogcrush, wb
01:08 Uberi           I can tell this media download might take a while...
01:08 VanessaE        it might
01:08 OldCoder        Uberi, we have fixes for that now
01:08 VanessaE        but lately, people haven't been having much trouble getting it all.
01:08 VanessaE        I have a copy of my cache on the forum thread
01:09 Uberi           oh hey 61%
01:09 Uberi           not too shabby at all
01:09 VanessaE        there are two useful recipes right now
01:10 VanessaE        for a mese pickaxe, use three mese crystals in place of the usual mese objects, plus two sticks
01:10 VanessaE        to craft a UFO,
01:10 VanessaE        - G -
01:10 VanessaE        F S F
01:10 Uberi           wow that is a lot of blocks
01:10 VanessaE        I C I
01:10 VanessaE        G = glass, F = crystal fragment, S = stone, C = crystal, I = steel ingot
01:11 Uberi           what's a crystal fragment?
01:11 VanessaE        over 1800 defined items on this server ;_)
01:11 VanessaE        I'll show you
01:11 Uberi           :O
01:20 Uberi           !up vanessae.mine.bz
01:20 moltenbot       Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP
01:20 Uberi           :/
01:20 VanessaE        ?
01:20 Uberi           oh now it's connecting
01:21 VanessaE        wtf?
01:21 VanessaE        something's odd..
01:21 Uberi           you just timed out
01:21 VanessaE        oh right, I forgot it takes time to reconnect after that
01:21 VanessaE        F10 crash.
01:24 kaeza           anyone? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/361
01:24 moltenbot       kaeza's link: Added texture transformations documentation to MT Lua API docs. by kaeza ? Pull Request #361 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
01:24 kaeza           VanessaE: ^
01:25 kaeza           marktraceur: ^
01:25 marktraceur     Meeehhhhh
01:25 marktraceur     Could use a silent night at home with some tasty noms.
01:26 VanessaE        kaeza: +(2^41-1) internetz
01:26 kaeza           thx :)
01:26 VanessaE        er 2^63-1
01:26 marktraceur     Whoa, 2^41
01:26 VanessaE        damn it I can't type
01:26 VanessaE        I give up :-)
01:26 marktraceur     VanessaE: +(INT_MAX * INT_MAX)
01:26 marktraceur     Well
01:26 marktraceur     Maybe not
01:26 kaeza           overflow
01:27 kaeza           meh
01:27 VanessaE        heh
01:27 VanessaE        kaeza: really though, this is a BIG plus
01:27 kaeza           just a bit sleepy from browsing that C++ mess
01:27 VanessaE        it was ABOUT G*DDAMN TIME someone documented this :-)
01:27 kaeza           I just ripped off the source
01:27 VanessaE        so?
01:27 kaeza           and added a bunch of docs myself
01:28 marktraceur     kaeza: If you're interested, we're thinking of having a doc sprint sometime in January.
01:28 kaeza           marktraceur: of course
01:28 VanessaE        define "doc sprint"
01:28 kaeza           lua_api.txt needs a complete revamp
01:28 kaeza           IMHO
01:28 marktraceur     VanessaE: Go through bits of code, comment them out, write wiki pages about everything
01:28 VanessaE        ah
01:28 marktraceur     thexyz: Didn't you have a mediawiki instance set up?
01:29 NakedFury       if possible comment them so dummies can understand it
01:29 kaeza           VanessaE, marktraceur: care to review it later?
01:29 kaeza           I still think it could be better
01:29 VanessaE        kaeza: review what, a revamped API?
01:29 kaeza           my pull
01:29 kaeza           request
01:30 VanessaE        the documented texture transforms?
01:30 kaeza           yup
01:30 VanessaE        I'm reading it now.
01:30 kaeza           tell me if something is not clear
01:31 marktraceur     Mrrrr. Maybe.
01:31 NakedFury       +[forcesingle is that missing a ]
01:31 VanessaE        NakedFury: no.
01:31 VanessaE        kaeza: not that many of us need it, but filename^filename^... should also be documented.
01:32 kaeza           k
01:32 VanessaE        NakedFury: only the open bracket is used on these transform commands - like a command wedge
01:32 NakedFury       I would suggest maybe mentioning all [crack# states
01:33 NakedFury       from 0 to MAX
01:33 kaeza           the problem is they depend on the crack textrue
01:33 NakedFury       ok just read that part
01:33 VanessaE        kaeza: [inventorycube is too terse. you should expand the description some
01:33 NakedFury       since when was this added?
01:34 kaeza           VanessaE: I know
01:34 kaeza           I'll expand it
01:35 kaeza           but if you see, a few parts in lua_api.txt are also a bit terse
01:36 VanessaE        to put it mildly :-)
01:36 NakedFury       maybe add an example after lines 1253 and 1254. Also can this be used more than once in the same line?
01:36 NakedFury       texture.png^forcesingle^crack2?
01:36 kaeza           NakedFury: k
01:36 kaeza           I believe most of them yes
01:36 NakedFury       well you can mention that too
01:37 OldCoder        NakedFury, touch base with Zeg9 when you can. See if he is interested in working on the avatars mod he mentioned. That is the way I play to add 3D avatars.
01:37 kaeza           with the notable exception of [inventorycube
01:37 NakedFury       ok. I tried to check if he had a topic about that already made
01:40 kaeza           marktraceur: a new `lua_api.html' or at least `lua_api.info' would be good
01:40 kaeza           but would need a lot of work right now
01:40 marktraceur     kaeza: There's probably a format you could use that would compile to HTML
01:40 marktraceur     kaeza: e.g. markdown or something
01:41 kaeza           hmmm
01:41 kaeza           I like texinfo since it can be nicely exported to a lox of formats
01:41 kaeza           lot*
01:41 marktraceur     Seems pretty reasonable
01:42 kaeza           but IDK if it's available everywhere
02:00 NakedFury       encyclopedia of minetest
02:04 kaeza           NakedFury: ?
02:04 kaeza           hello Dogzilla131
02:06 Asahammer       hi
02:06 VanessaE        hi
02:06 Dogzilla131     hello kaeza
02:07 kaeza           hi Asahammer
02:07 kaeza           hi dawg
02:07 kaeza           :)
02:07 kaeza           what's up?
02:08 Asahammer       Not too much here, kind of wondering if the public servers list on the Minetest site is accurate.  Cause I tried a few the other day with no success.
02:08 Uberi           Asahammer: try vanessae.mine.bz, creative server
02:08 VanessaE        you need latest git for it to work 100% right
02:08 VanessaE        (or at least later than Dec. 2)
02:09 Asahammer       The latest what?
02:09 VanessaE        git - that's how the game's source code is distributed.
02:09 Uberi           the latest version
02:09 VanessaE        it's basically the bleeding edge source code, experimental features, that sort of thing
02:09 VanessaE        it's what code is put through before it becomes a release that you see on the downloads page
02:10 kaeza           Asahammer: basically, you get 10 new features for the price of 213845823 bugs :)
02:11 VanessaE        haha well not quite THAT bad but sometimes :D
02:12 Asahammer       I downloaded 0.4.4.
02:12 VanessaE        it might work, try it and see :-)
02:12 kaeza           well... maybe just 213845822.99
02:12 NakedFury       you can try the above mentioned server or minetest.org ports 30000 to 30018
02:13 VanessaE        Asahammer: one thing you'll notice is that servers come and go a lot around her
02:13 VanessaE        here
02:13 VanessaE        some have persisted for a long time though, like redcrab's
02:14 kaeza           also, except for Nek... err.. some users, we are not 3L171575
02:14 Uberi           :P
02:16 jojoa1997       maybe you should look at flags mod is it outdated?
02:16 Uberi           no idea
02:16 jojoa1997       wrong section
02:16 kaeza           Dogzilla131: I have some fixes to moreflags
02:17 kaeza           but I fixed an old copy :(
02:29 Uberi           bye everyone!
02:38 kaeza           Who is this Someguy1234?
02:38 VanessaE        I dunno, just some guy. :-)
02:39 kaeza           he keeps getting Excess Flood
02:39 VanessaE        might be Calinou :P
02:39 VanessaE        that's his usual signof msg
02:40 kaeza           on a different topic, I think I'll make the C64/128 thicker
02:40 kaeza           as you said
02:41 VanessaE        well
02:41 kaeza           and maybe I'll split the 128 version into two nodeboxes
02:41 ieatbacos       Hi, is it possible to add music to minetest?
02:41 VanessaE        make the C64 thicker
02:41 VanessaE        but make the Z+/back part of the C128 a little thinner
02:41 kaeza           yup.
02:41 kaeza           my thoughts exactly
02:41 VanessaE        and btw, you don't have to call then Admiral :-)
02:41 kaeza           ieatbacos: try the ambience mod
02:42 kaeza           VanessaE: it's a pun on "Commodore"
02:42 VanessaE        I know :-)
02:42 VanessaE        ieatbacos: ambiance, or technic-ambiance extended version
02:42 VanessaE        both are large downloads though
02:42 kaeza           what would be a better name for it?
02:42 ieatbacos       Ok
02:43 VanessaE        leave it as it is then :-)
02:43 VanessaE        hey Splizard.
02:43 kaeza           hi Splizard
02:43 Splizard        hi
02:43 kaeza           and hi... Someguy1234
02:44 Splizard        I heard somewhere that hats were supported for 3d models, is that true?
02:44 VanessaE        yes
02:44 VanessaE        regular MC skins, with or without 'hats'
02:44 kaeza           Splizard: not really "hats"
02:44 kaeza           more like "helmets
02:45 kaeza           just headgear in general
02:45 Splizard        ok
02:45 kaeza           of course, I don't think it's possible to make a wizard hat
02:45 VanessaE        kaeza: I'm sure a good artist will find a way to fake it :-()
02:46 VanessaE        :-)
02:47 kaeza           VanessaE: If Doom 3 can fake horrible geometry with shaders, anything can be done
02:47 VanessaE        heh
02:47 NakedFury       with time I think the models could be updated to include hats
02:47 NakedFury       of any shape
02:48 NakedFury       before that we would need to come up with MT own original player model
02:49 kaeza           someone was talking about client provided players IIRC
02:49 VanessaE        such models are already possible - the UFOs mod has some non-square shapes already
02:49 VanessaE        (triangular wings)
02:49 kizeren         IIRC?
02:49 kaeza           you can now use models for entities?
02:49 VanessaE        If I Recall Correctly
02:50 VanessaE        kaeza: yes
02:50 harrison        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwPEIcAVB8I&feature=youtu.be
02:50 kaeza           kizeren: IIRC = If I Remember/Recall Correctly
02:50 moltenbot       harrison's link: marmalade mice and tangerine skies - YouTube
02:50 harrison        marmalade mice and tangerine skies
02:50 kizeren         Hehehehe
02:50 VanessaE        kaeza: UFOs, carts, boats all have custom models
02:50 kizeren         I am so out on jargon
02:50 VanessaE        IIRC is quite old
02:50 VanessaE        like pre-BBS-days old :-)
02:50 kaeza           BBS? so oldschool
02:50 kaeza           :)
02:51 kizeren         Hm.....
02:51 kizeren         I can honestly say in all my days of MUDS I have never seen IIRC
02:51 kaeza           VanessaE: but I bet the API is not included in lua_api.txt right?
02:52 cy1             ishygddt
02:52 kaeza           brb
02:54 kaeza1          back
02:54 VanessaE        kaeza1: actually I haven't looked.  I'm not sure if it is or not.
02:55 kaeza1          hmmm
02:55 kaeza1          I'll have to look at the UFO mod
03:37 kaeza           lol http://cheezburger.com/6855014656
03:37 moltenbot       kaeza's link: Oh God! Here Too! - Cheezburger
03:48 OldCoder        davidpace, Dogzilla131 wb
03:54 davidpace       Thanks OldCoder
03:54 kaeza           It's a bit lonely in here
03:54 kaeza           :(
03:55 OldCoder        kaeza, Hi!
03:55 kaeza           hi OldCoder
03:55 OldCoder        kaeza, I look forward to the IRC mod
03:55 OldCoder        Then there will be more MT channels to talk in
03:55 OldCoder        And you won't be lonely :-)
03:55 kaeza           thx :P
03:56 kaeza           but I still can't find why you can't connect
03:56 kaeza           everything seems fine
03:56 kizeren         OlderCoder can I get your textures and ambience?
03:59 kaeza           kizeren: I just saw your issue report
04:00 kizeren         ooo?
04:00 kaeza           I'm sorry I didn't notice it before
04:01 kizeren         NO worries
04:01 jordan4ibanez   i wish the server DIDNT FUCKING PRINT FORCING DELETE EVERY GOD DAMN TIME IT DELETES A FUCKING ENTITY
04:01 kaeza           I mean the login/logout problem
04:01 VanessaE        +1
04:02 kizeren         kaeza
04:02 kaeza           yes?
04:02 kizeren         I have been messing with the code all night.  Can't get the callback("connect") to work properly but the logging off displays proper message.
04:02 kaeza           hmm
04:02 kaeza           explain
04:02 kaeza           does it not get called?
04:03 kaeza           apparently, LuaIRC calls ir on `irc.connect()'
04:03 kaeza           it*
04:03 kizeren         This message "*** Shaun joins the game." doesn't get displayed.  But "*** Shaun left the game. " does.
04:03 VanessaE        kaeza: so, have you moved beyond needing a binary lib yet? :-)
04:04 kaeza           VanessaE: not until celeron55 approves exporting some api
04:04 VanessaE        damn
04:04 VanessaE        I'm kinda wanting to add this mod to my server :-)
04:05 VanessaE        then I can F2 and move all my chatter over to my IRC client where it belongs
04:05 VanessaE        hey Dolan
04:05 Dolan_          hey :D
04:05 Dolan_          wait
04:05 Dolan_          i'll get the URL
04:05 VanessaE        ok
04:05 Dolan_          ]what time is it there?
04:05 VanessaE        11:05pm
04:05 kizeren         VanessaE the IRC is for the most part working fine.  Is the binary you don't want?
04:05 Dolan_          oh
04:05 Dolan_          02:05 PM
04:06 VanessaE        kizeren: yeah pretty much - I don't want to install an out-of-game program.
04:06 kaeza           VanessaE: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-17#i_2729099
04:06 moltenbot       kaeza's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-17
04:06 Dolan_          http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/471845/minecraft-dolan/
04:06 moltenbot       Dolan_'s link: minecraft dolan | Minecraft Skin
04:06 VanessaE        haha
04:07 VanessaE        ok dolan if you want :-)
04:07 Dolan_          tika.
04:07 Dolan_          goes to play*
04:07 VanessaE        wait
04:07 kaeza           gooby pls
04:07 VanessaE        server restart to install it.
04:07 Dolan_          OK .-.
04:07 VanessaE        done.
04:07 Dolan_          can i re-enter now?
04:08 Dolan_          ?
04:08 VanessaE        yup
04:08 Dolan_          ok
04:09 VanessaE        hi "Donald" :-)
04:10 kaeza           minecrest pls
04:10 VanessaE        eh?
04:10 kaeza           nvm
04:11 kaeza           kizeren: is "connect" callback not getting called?
04:11 VanessaE        kaeza: hrm, well at least he's not rejecting the idea..
04:12 kaeza           ?
04:12 Dolan_          OMFG
04:12 Dolan_          THERE'S A DEMIN IN MY SISTER
04:12 VanessaE        kaeza: by that log you posted, it looks like he's generally willing
04:12 Dolan_          LOL
04:12 VanessaE        Dolan_: you are taking forever to connect
04:12 Dolan_          like always
04:13 kaeza           VanessaE: yes I know
04:13 VanessaE        Dolan_: it's "demon" btw.
04:13 Dolan_          my PC is fast as fuck
04:13 kaeza           he just said he's having problems with "connect"
04:13 VanessaE        Dolan_: it happens for some people - some folks are super fast at connecting, others not so much.
04:13 Dolan_          i know,look where's ''i'' and where's ''o'' on the keyboard
04:13 VanessaE        Dolan_: you timed out.  try again.
04:13 kizeren         kaeza: it appears it is not.
04:14 kaeza           hmm
04:14 kizeren         I am not exactly sure how to test if it is getting called or not.
04:14 kaeza           can you pastebin your code?
04:15 kizeren         Its the latest git
04:15 kizeren         Yours does it also.
04:15 kaeza           lemme check
04:15 Dolan_          dude
04:15 Dolan_          i need
04:15 Dolan_          64
04:15 Dolan_          games
04:15 Dolan_          like zelda
04:16 kizeren         I am guessing since we auto connect on start.  Then player joins.  There is no callback or function being called that is "connect"
04:16 Splizard        Hi, does anyone know if is it possible to overide the 3d players animation?
04:16 Dolan_          i even don't know whats overide lol
04:16 kizeren         I think pilzadam has a mod that allows for custom avatars.
04:16 VanessaE        Splizard: not sure, but I believe you replace the model file with a new one containing the desired animations
04:17 VanessaE        kizeren: sdzen, and I use it on my server
04:17 kaeza           kizeren: yes
04:17 VanessaE        player_textures
04:17 kizeren         AHh sorry
04:17 kizeren         Still trying to learn who does what.
04:17 kaeza           kizeren uncomment line 87 of init.lua
04:17 VanessaE        you'll learn it :-)
04:17 Splizard        VannessaE: what I mean is having the player eg. sit on a chair
04:18 Splizard        without editing the default mod
04:18 VanessaE        Splizard: sit command.  a mod jordan4ibanez did I think
04:18 kaeza           kizeren: I will spray comments everywhere next update
04:18 jordan4ibanez   mijyn
04:19 VanessaE        http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3977
04:19 moltenbot       VanessaE's link: Player sit command (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
04:19 VanessaE        mke that mijyn
04:19 VanessaE        make*
04:19 Splizard        VannesaE: thx
04:19 kaeza           hello jordan4ibanez
04:19 kizeren         kaeza let me get fresh git I got mine all goofy from testing.
04:19 VanessaE        np
04:19 VanessaE        ok, time to get outta here for the night
04:19 VanessaE        be back tomorrow :-)
04:19 kaeza           kizeren: please use a separate build dir this time :)
04:19 kaeza           bye V
04:19 VanessaE        night all
04:20 kizeren         kaeza 87 isn't commented out
04:21 kaeza           kizeren: irc.say(mt_irc.channel, "*** "..player:get_player_name().." joined the game");
04:21 kaeza           is that the one?
04:21 kizeren         Yea.   Its not commented out.
04:22 kaeza           lemme test it
04:22 kizeren         but line 86 is the one that tells the bot to connect.  That is the line that does not seem to be doing its job.
04:28 jordan4ibanez   hi kaeza
04:29 jordan4ibanez   oh shit, i was so busy i released my mod with a big in it :O
04:29 kaeza           a big?
04:29 kaeza           haven't tested it yet
04:29 kaeza           sorry
04:29 jordan4ibanez   bug
04:30 OldCoder        Big bug
04:30 OldCoder        B{i,u}g
04:30 OldCoder        Biug
04:30 jordan4ibanez   23:30:24: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...home/jordan/Desktop/minetest/bin/../builtin/misc.lua:15: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'time' (a string value)
04:30 jordan4ibanez   wtf is THAT
04:32 jordan4ibanez   Wait, i don't think that's a bug in my mod
04:33 jordan4ibanez   Yea, that doesn't happen on my latest github verion of minetest, that is weird
04:33 Aqu             hello
04:33 Aqu             Aqua*
04:33 kaeza           hello Aqu
04:33 kaeza           Aqu: /nick Aqua
04:34 Aqua            its registered
04:34 kaeza           I read it with a 't' instead of an 'f' lol
04:36 ShiftyCake      lol
04:36 sokomine        hi
04:36 ShiftyCake      Have you seen my minetest 0.4.4 viedeo
04:37 ShiftyCake      I'm trying yo be funnier without swearing
04:37 ShiftyCake      to*
04:37 sokomine        is there a way to use formspec-menues with non-nodes? especially with npc?
04:38 sokomine        hm, if you have enough players running around it might look funny on its own
04:39 jordan4ibanez   can i have a link?
04:40 ShiftyCake      sure
04:40 ShiftyCake      wait editing the desription 1 min
04:44 ShiftyCake      When im digging cobble the screen goes purple-ish how do i fix that
04:44 ShiftyCake      in the video
04:44 ShiftyCake      And what recorder do you use?
04:45 ShiftyCake      in your lets play
04:46 cy1             ShiftyCake: links?
04:46 ShiftyCake      Here: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM8ZYacqcz6kDOpyEjhUTSA/featured
04:46 moltenbot       ShiftyCake's link: Shaun Zero - YouTube
04:46 ShiftyCake      I'm really sorry about my voice it was late
04:46 ShiftyCake      I used hypercam but it didnt turn out well
04:47 jordan4ibanez   ummmm, can someone else test out my fireworks to see if misc.lua gives them an issue?
04:48 ShiftyCake      jordan what recorder do you use?
04:49 moltenbot       Splizard's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC
04:49 ShiftyCake      Please tell me
04:53 ShiftyCake      Did you see it....
04:56 ShiftyCake      ?
05:09 thexyz          marktraceur: i do, http://wapi.minetest.ru, it's not finished yet
05:14 marktraceur     KK
05:15 RagnarLaud      Hi
05:15 RagnarLaud      Hello Minetest-tan
05:15 Minetest-tan    Hello RagnarLaud!
05:16 RagnarLaud      Hi moltenbot
05:16 moltenbot       hi RagnarLaud
05:16 RagnarLaud      :
05:18 OldCoder        3D can be overridden
05:18 marktraceur     RagnarLaud: Hello! How's it going?
05:18 OldCoder        We are working on a possible mod
05:19 ShiftyCake      hi ragnar
05:32 OldCoder        marktraceur, anunakki hi!
05:39 VanessaE        sigh..
05:39 VanessaE        well that was a colossal waste of timne
05:39 VanessaE        time*
05:39 VanessaE        can't sleep.
05:41 jordan4ibanez   I've found the issue, you can't place it into your mod directory, it has to be placed in your gamemode directory, which is WEIRD!
05:42 VanessaE        jordan4ibanez: player_textures is like that too.  won't work unless it's part of a game.
05:42 jordan4ibanez   Well i'm glad that's all sorted out, goodnight
05:42 * jordan4ibanez pats vanessae on the bed
05:42 jordan4ibanez   sleep tight lol
05:42 VanessaE        hah
05:42 kaeza           hi again V
05:42 VanessaE        hey
05:43 Aqua_           is 2516kb, a big file?
05:43 kaeza           seems you can't sleep
05:43 VanessaE        depends on whay it's for
05:43 VanessaE        kaeza: as usual.
05:45 kaeza           a nice glass of milk (or a bottle of beer) can cure that
05:45 VanessaE        heh
05:46 VanessaE        actually I had a good swig of milk just before I went to bed.
05:54 celeron55       VanessaE: i don't understand the way you think
05:55 celeron55       VanessaE: you think that i shouldn't be the dictator of the project, and then you insist on me making every decision
05:55 celeron55       is this some kind of woman logic
05:56 VanessaE        um?
05:56 VanessaE        *shakes head*
05:57 VanessaE        the problem isn't whether you are a dictator of the project or not, it's your prerogative.  The problem is when no one *else* is willing to make a decision because they either don't want to step on your toes, or don't know what to decide.
05:57 celeron55       just ask PilzAdam to take a final look and merge it, he's been mainly taking care of minetest_game recently
05:57 kaeza           celeron55: could you please? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/361
05:57 moltenbot       kaeza's link: Added texture transformations documentation to MT Lua API docs. by kaeza ? Pull Request #361 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
05:57 VanessaE        I did - he hates it becuase of the yellow textures.
05:57 VanessaE        and he doesn't care much for the idea of mese -> crystals -> etc.  even though he's been outvoted roughly 3:1 by now.
05:57 VanessaE        :-)
05:57 kaeza           and hi!
05:59 celeron55       i still don't like the textures either
05:59 VanessaE        yeah well they're 1000000x better than black-on-yellow [ mEsE ]
05:59 VanessaE        :-)
06:00 VanessaE        no offense :-)
06:01 celeron55       that one doesn't even intend to be good in any way
06:01 VanessaE        I know
06:01 VanessaE        but what I've provided is *still* better :-)
06:02 VanessaE        see, the whole idea is here is to get the code into place so others can use it, and then fix the textures later by whoever wants to commit new ones.
06:02 VanessaE        (as long as we don't get a repeat of that weird olive-colored mese block we had for a while there -- sorry cisoun :-)  )
06:06 VanessaE        besides -- UFO mod?  Mese as an alien artifact?  Come on, it just screams for my update :-)
06:08 NakedFury       rework texture until it the opposition likes it
06:08 celeron55       are you seriously continuing to mock me because of an example i said that i said was horrible?
06:08 OldCoder        celeron55, Hi
06:08 celeron55       this is not far from me kicking you
06:08 VanessaE        huh?
06:09 RagnarLaud      Hi moltenbot
06:09 moltenbot       hi RagnarLaud
06:09 RagnarLaud      Hi minetest-tan
06:09 Minetest-tan    Hello RagnarLaud
06:09 RagnarLaud      I need those bots
06:09 RagnarLaud      !joke
06:10 VanessaE        celeron55: I think you're seriously misreading my intention now.
06:10 RagnarLaud      Hi VanessaE
06:10 kaeza1          back
06:10 RagnarLaud      Hey VanessaE, my keyboard has the "any" key
06:11 RagnarLaud      Hi kaeza
06:12 RagnarLaud      Hey kaeza
06:12 kaeza           hi
06:12 RagnarLaud      !joke
06:12 RagnarLaud      !joke
06:12 RagnarLaud      !joke
06:12 RagnarLaud      !joke
06:12 RagnarLaud      !joke
06:12 RagnarLaud      !joke
06:12 kaeza           not this again
06:13 VanessaE        RagnarLaud: knock it off.
06:13 RagnarLaud      No this was once
06:13 OldCoder        RagnarLaud, we can get you the jokes database if you wish it
06:13 kaeza           RagnarLaud: /repeat
06:13 kaeza           don't do that
06:13 OldCoder        celeron55, PM
06:13 VanessaE        celeron55: my whole point is not to mock (in fact by now I would have hoped you'd come to understand that).  My point is to suggest that an improvement exists.  Nothing more.
06:14 OldCoder        celeron55, BTW Good morning
06:14 celeron55       very good kickban-filled morning
06:15 OldCoder        Heh
06:15 * VanessaE      watches her kitten go apeshit over a little container that was dropped on the floor
06:16 VanessaE        100% pure entertainment --->
06:16 VanessaE        morning jin_xi n
06:16 VanessaE        -n
06:16 jin_xi          hi there
06:16 OldCoder        Hi
06:17 kaeza           hi jin_xi
06:33 VanessaE        heh, he didn't stay long.
06:37 NakedFury       http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/unlocking-your-smartphone-will-soon-be-illegal-and-other-new-dmca-rule-insanity/?utm_source=nrel1
06:37 moltenbot       NakedFury's link: DMCA rule insanity: Unlocking your smartphone will soon be illegal | Digital Trends
06:38 cy1             NakedFury: man I don't even own a smartphone and that hurts to read.
06:39 NakedFury       Corey Hall   52 days Ago   I really could care less. I'm still gonna jailbreak, root, and unlock my devices
06:39 NakedFury       best comment
06:40 cy1             I dunno, that comment seems to downplay the ability of the USA to enforce its own laws...
06:40 NakedFury       unless they create a new police to check peoples tablets then that is just some stuff written on a piece of paper
06:42 NakedFury       same as when games terms of use make you give up your right to some stuff, really bad
06:42 cy1             NakedFury: ever hear the term "arbitrary justice?"
06:42 cy1             how about "Stamp Act of 1765?"
06:43 NakedFury       wait checking about the first
06:43 NakedFury       ok this is only checking definition for arbitrary and wont tell me about the full term
06:44 cy1             ppl will just keep their materials without getting a stamp the british will never be able to enforce it
06:44 cy1             NakedFury: I'll find a link, momentai
06:45 cy1             NakedFury: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_prosecution
06:45 moltenbot       cy1's link: Selective prosecution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
06:46 NakedFury       just finished reading the stamp act
06:47 NakedFury       ok
06:47 cy1             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law <-- what doesn't exist where there is arbitrary justice...
06:47 moltenbot       cy1's link: Rule of law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
07:03 kaeza           ok guys time to go
07:04 kaeza           see you later
07:04 OldCoder        c u
07:05 YoMamaSoUgly    Hi moltenbot
07:05 moltenbot       hi YoMamaSoUgly
07:05 YoMamaSoUgly    Hi minetest-tan
07:05 Minetest-tan    Hi YoMamaSoUgly!
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:06 YoMamaSoUgly    !joke
07:28 davidpace       I'm watching your video right now Aqua
07:28 davidpace       Wait, he left?
08:00 VanessaE        neko259: I think the plantlife lib is stable, those height limit changes I mentioned are already in place and *seem* to work but I have not had a chance to stress-test them.
08:01 VanessaE        also, good morning (or whatever)
08:06 neko259         VanessaE: I also wrote the water limit changes for growing, but haven't tested it yet :)
08:06 VanessaE        cool
08:06 VanessaE        well the latest code is up on my repos if you wanna give it a shot.  patches welcome.
08:07 neko259         Ok, thanks.
08:07 VanessaE        if you spot a bug I missed or if my code is just stupid, I wouldn't mind a fix or two :-0
08:07 VanessaE        :-)
08:07 VanessaE        I think I'm gonna head off to bed now
08:07 OldCoder        c u
08:07 VanessaE        night all.
08:09 OldCoder        o/
08:26 Zephyrus1497    Hi everyone!
09:57 YoMama          Hi
10:01 RagnarLaud      Hi moltenbot
10:01 moltenbot       hi RagnarLaud
10:01 RagnarLaud      Hi minetest-tan
10:01 Minetest-tan    Hey RagnarLaud!
10:01 RagnarLaud      Hi Ragnar Laud
10:01 RagnarLaud      Hi Ragnar Laud
10:02 RagnarLaud      !joke
10:02 RagnarLaud      !g joke
10:02 Minetest-tan    RagnarLaud: http://www.jokes.com/
10:02 RagnarLaud      !server
10:02 Minetest-tan    RagnarLaud: glomie's server | 94.23.33.108:30000   up (99.407%)
10:03 RagnarLaud      !up
10:03 moltenbot       Minetest server !up:!up DOWN
10:03 RagnarLaud      !up pythonserv.sytes.com
10:03 moltenbot       Minetest server pythonserv.sytes.com:30000 DOWN
10:04 RagnarLaud      !up vanessae
10:04 moltenbot       Minetest server vanessae:30000 DOWN
11:01 Calinou         it's vanessae.mine.bz
11:01 Calinou         looks like it is down currently
11:18 OldCoder        Good night
12:10 RagnarLaud      hi
12:10 RagnarLaud      u just registred my account yay :D
12:10 RagnarLaud      hi Minetest-Tan
12:10 Minetest-tan    Hi RagnarLaud!
12:10 RagnarLaud      hi moltenbot
12:10 moltenbot       hi RagnarLaud
12:12 RagnarLaud      !joke
12:15 RagnarLaud      hi!
12:22 celeron55       whoever owns the bots: remove that hi thing, both
12:23 RagnarLaud      hey Celeron55
12:23 RagnarLaud      can you help me please?
12:23 celeron55       maybe
12:23 RagnarLaud      idk how to use ftp with linux...
12:24 RagnarLaud      please?!
12:24 RagnarLaud      come on man
12:24 celeron55       i'm not here to help you with that; google it
12:24 RagnarLaud      gee, thanks alot asshole!
12:24 RagnarLaud      i ask your help and you dont even help 0.0001%
12:24 celeron55       you're welcome, asshole 8)
12:25 RagnarLaud      fuck you
12:25 RagnarLaud      you think youre soo damn cool eh? why didnt you make something, oh idk...less minecraft-ish?
12:25 RagnarLaud      or atleast less lagging
12:25 celeron55       i make all sorts of things; it's not really my problem if people like the minecraft-ish thing that i happened to make
12:26 RagnarLaud      you think youre smart, so make it lag less
12:26 RagnarLaud      whats the matter, cat shit on your tounge?
12:26 celeron55       yeah, i regularly eat cat poop
12:26 celeron55       yummy stuff
12:27 RagnarLaud      you do know that this isnt PM right?
12:27 celeron55       i do
12:27 RagnarLaud      EVERYONE can see this...
12:27 celeron55       yeah, and the fact that i have operator status at the same time probably looks quite interesting 8-)
12:28 RagnarLaud      dude i dont actually give a shit
12:28 celeron55       so how's your day going?
12:28 RagnarLaud      i know your kind...
12:28 RagnarLaud      behind the computer, youre the fucking king...
12:28 RagnarLaud      do what you want, say what you want etc...
12:28 RagnarLaud      but in real life you are nothing else that a mother fucking pussy
12:29 RagnarLaud      prove me wrong!
12:29 celeron55       nobody is much more than a mother fucking pussy in real life
12:29 celeron55       i wouldn't guess you were either
12:29 RagnarLaud      im 3 hours away from you...
12:29 RagnarLaud      you want me to come there and fuck you to next year?
12:30 celeron55       probably not
12:31 RagnarLaud      then shut the fuck up!
12:31 celeron55       you're the one asking things :P
12:31 RagnarLaud      ive been to court more times that you have updated minetest...all for assault...
12:32 RagnarLaud      so you really think you wanna mess with me?
12:32 RagnarLaud      i hope not
12:32 celeron55       are you proud of that
12:32 RagnarLaud      cause if you really piss me off, then im not responsable for my actions
12:32 RagnarLaud      you got it, punk?!
12:32 Dopium          lol
12:32 celeron55       the law does say otherwise
12:33 RagnarLaud      hey Dopium
12:33 RagnarLaud      see what a coward he is?
12:33 RagnarLaud      hides behind the law -.-
12:33 celeron55       see how awesome lawless ganster this guy is!
12:33 RagnarLaud      you think thats gonna save you?
12:33 celeron55       ooh!
12:33 celeron55       :-D
12:34 RagnarLaud      fat chance
12:43 RagnarLaud      !g html tutorial
12:43 Minetest-tan    RagnarLaud: http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp
12:44 RagnarLaud      see celeron55, even Minetest-tan helps more that you!
12:44 RagnarLaud      atleast it gives a fucking LINK!!!
12:44 RagnarLaud      it doesnt say "Google it"
12:44 RagnarLaud      it does it FOR me!
12:45 celeron55       yes, that's what computers are made for
12:45 RagnarLaud      !g html align center
12:45 Minetest-tan    RagnarLaud: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_div_align.asp
12:46 RagnarLaud      and you wanna get rid of them?
12:46 celeron55       by the way, always include for example "mdn" to searches about web technologies
12:46 RagnarLaud      srsly, you suck!
12:46 celeron55       w3schools is very bad
12:46 RagnarLaud      well it helps more than you do asshole!
12:59 Garp            Hi.
13:00 Garp            I'm getting the following error: 13:55:46: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player
13:01 RagnarLaud      so celeron55, work your magic and show him how "smart" you are xD
13:01 Garp            Looked for help, didnt find much. Looks like it happends, but no solution found.
13:01 Garp            Where should I look to understand what the problem may be ?
13:01 Garp            Thnaks.
13:02 Garp            Thanks ;)
13:06 Kray            >w3schools
13:07 Kray            http://tsundere.fi/b/eivv.jpg
13:14 celeron55       Garp: it's a known error, i think it usually happens when a client crashes without properly quitting, and then you try to connect within the 30s timeout
13:14 celeron55       if this is not that case, maybe you can try to figure out what case it is 8)
13:36 Dracopta        nick KikaRz
13:36 KikaRz          Hi there :)
13:36 KikaRz          heey
13:36 KikaRz          :c
13:36 RagnarLaud      hey KikaRz
13:36 RagnarLaud      KikaRz can you help me PLEASE?!
13:36 KikaRz          ??
13:36 KikaRz          lawl
13:37 KikaRz          People, are you listening me?
13:38 RagnarLaud      i ran my "website" from my compter, to test it...and when i do <a href="./forum/index.php">Forum</a href> it starts downloading the .php
13:38 RagnarLaud      help?
13:39 celeron55       you need a web server that executes php scripts
13:39 RagnarLaud      firefox?
13:39 celeron55       your browser or file manager won't do that
13:39 RagnarLaud      so firefox doesnt do that?
13:39 RagnarLaud      huh... :/
13:40 RagnarLaud      hey celeron55
13:40 RagnarLaud      im sorry for flipping out earlier
13:40 RagnarLaud      i just had a hard day at school : got picked on , didnt get enought sleep...
13:41 RagnarLaud      had a test in maths, that a failed...
13:41 RagnarLaud      so do you forgive me?
13:41 celeron55       the combination of this and the earlier sounds odd and pretentious
13:41 RagnarLaud      what?
13:42 RagnarLaud      you mean, that its kinda odd, that first i was angry, and now im not?
13:42 celeron55       but in any case i don't need to forgive you because you have nothing to be sorry about
13:42 RagnarLaud      really?
13:42 * VanessaE      wanders in
13:42 RagnarLaud      no hard feelings?
13:42 VanessaE        good morning.
13:42 RagnarLaud      hi VanessaE
13:42 RagnarLaud      i registred :D
13:42 VanessaE        yay.
13:42 RagnarLaud      hey vaness...
13:42 RagnarLaud      can you help me?
13:43 RagnarLaud      how do i execute my forum on a website?
13:43 VanessaE        I don't know.  I've never done that.
13:43 KikaRz          VanessaE
13:43 KikaRz          can you go query for a bit?
13:43 VanessaE        morning KikaRz
13:43 VanessaE        sure.
13:43 RagnarLaud      i downloaded punBB, the latest one, and there is no index.html, but there is a index.php...
13:43 RagnarLaud      but i have issues with php's...
13:44 RagnarLaud      hey celeron55
13:44 RagnarLaud      PM
13:47 VanessaE        who oh why does sleep have to be so fleeting for me :(
13:47 VanessaE        why*
13:47 RagnarLaud      what?
13:47 RagnarLaud      say again...
13:49 Darkbee         Hello
13:49 RagnarLaud      hey Darkbee
13:50 RagnarLaud      how much do you know php?
13:50 Darkbee         not really
13:50 Darkbee         I just came to say that my item pickup issue was resolved.
13:50 RagnarLaud      oh ok...
13:50 RagnarLaud      and what caused it?
13:50 Darkbee         Just exiting the game and reloading seem to do the trick... last night I was able to pick up the items, no problem.
13:50 RagnarLaud      oh...
13:50 Darkbee         I have no idea.
13:50 * RagnarLaud    hoped it was lag
13:51 * RagnarLaud    would have almost been right
13:51 Darkbee         I have a new question... is there way to find out the coordinates of your current location?
13:51 jin_xi          f5
13:51 RagnarLaud      yes
13:51 RagnarLaud      hey jin_xi
13:51 RagnarLaud      know php?
13:52 Darkbee         Thanks
13:52 jin_xi          no, never used it
13:52 RagnarLaud      oh...
13:52 RagnarLaud      but do you know any good ftp-able web hosters?
13:52 RagnarLaud      except bugs3
13:53 RagnarLaud      btw jin_xi
13:53 RagnarLaud      you know that when you type in http://www.minetest.net/forum it goes to http://www.minetest.net/forum/index.php
13:53 moltenbot       RagnarLaud's link: Minetest Forums
13:54 RagnarLaud      how can i do that?
13:54 jin_xi          its the web server doing it
13:54 RagnarLaud      oh... ok...
13:54 RagnarLaud      but is it possible for me to do?
13:55 RagnarLaud      i need that :(
13:55 RagnarLaud      or atleast teach me how to set up a forum...
13:55 RagnarLaud      i downloaded punBB
13:55 Darkbee         simplest way would be to do HTML redirect page.
13:55 RagnarLaud      ?
13:55 RagnarLaud      to the index.php page?
13:55 RagnarLaud      it starts downloading it :(
13:55 RagnarLaud      when i test it...
13:56 RagnarLaud      but it doesnt start downloading the .php file on minetest forums...
13:56 Darkbee         errr
13:56 RagnarLaud      why?
13:56 Darkbee         does your server support PHP?
13:56 Darkbee         or rather is it installed?
13:56 RagnarLaud      i said that im testing it out with my computer at first
13:56 Darkbee         oh
13:57 RagnarLaud      but wait a sec
13:57 Darkbee         then you don't have PHP set up correctly.
13:57 Darkbee         what server software are you using?
13:57 RagnarLaud      what do you mean by that?
13:58 Darkbee         You're testing a website on your computer?  You have to run a web server on yoru computer to do that.
13:58 RagnarLaud      im just running the index.html, there i put a link to the index.php (in ./forum/) and when i click it, it starts downloading it
13:58 Darkbee         something like XAMPP
13:58 RagnarLaud      idk what r u talking about...
13:58 jin_xi          http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081226121136AAhJyfA
13:58 moltenbot       jin_xi's link: How to get php to be run locally on web browser? - Yahoo! Answers
13:59 Darkbee         Your computer doesn't know what to do with the PHP file so it just treats it l ike a text file and tries to download it.
13:59 RagnarLaud      wait i just found an answer to my questions!
13:59 RagnarLaud      im gonna auto-install a forum :D
14:00 RagnarLaud      whats better, phpBB or punBB
14:00 Darkbee         I have no experience of either.
14:00 Darkbee         I think phpBB is more popular.  Maybe
14:00 RagnarLaud      ok
14:02 Darkbee         You can test something like phpBB on yoru computer without putting on the Internet but you need a web server (with PHP support) running on your computer first, like Jin's link explains.
14:02 RagnarLaud      well i think i got it...testing
14:04 VanessaE        now for a bit of on-topic chat:  What would cause a server to start spinning at 100% CPU, but only while a player is logged in - map generator/loader stops working, but the server still responds quite snappily to commands?
14:04 VanessaE        (when everyone was logged out, it dropped to ~5% CPU)
14:04 VanessaE        (or less)
14:04 KikaRz          lol
14:05 VanessaE        clearly it isn't a mod, or the server would not respond to commands (or so I gather),...so what's the cause?
14:06 Darkbee         I'd have to take a really wild stab in the dark at that one... no idea... conflicting process vying for resources?
14:06 Darkbee         accidentally have two instances of the server running?
14:06 VanessaE        I doubt it - one of the two would exit, failing to bind to the port
14:07 RagnarLaud      VanessaE im making a forum :D
14:07 RagnarLaud      yay :D
14:07 VanessaE        also:  the screen goes its usual grey when the map generator/loader is stalled out - even if you're in an area that has long since been generated (e.g the spawn)
14:08 jin_xi          more hueg tree: http://i.imgur.com/zGwhR.jpg
14:08 Darkbee         can you reproduce on another machine?  corrupt files?
14:08 KikaRz          Peoeple
14:08 Darkbee         I saw a tree with a sand block in it last night.  :S
14:08 KikaRz          how i know my vps's IP?
14:09 VanessaE        Darkbee: only one machine that can run MT as a server, and definitely not - I rebuild and re-install the server frequently as new updates are released.
14:09 VanessaE        KikaRz: ifconfig
14:09 KikaRz          if or ip ?
14:09 Darkbee         ip
14:09 RagnarLaud      lol :D
14:09 RagnarLaud      thats for windows
14:09 RagnarLaud      i think -.-
14:09 RagnarLaud      PROVE ME WRONG
14:09 RagnarLaud      :D
14:09 VanessaE        celeron55: I realize the mapgen/loader gets stuck from time to time, but fwiw this persisted for about 4 hours (someone reported via the chat log that the mapgen died)
14:09 KikaRz          Darkbee
14:10 KikaRz          ipconfig in windows
14:10 KikaRz          ifconfig in linux
14:10 Darkbee         yes, for windows. sorry.
14:10 VanessaE        celeron55: isn't there anything that can be done short of periodic restarts?  (Redcrab does this, once a night)
14:10 Darkbee         anyway.. I have to go... just wanted to report my issue resolved fwiw.
14:10 VanessaE        jin_xi: beautiful tree
14:19 jin_xi          VanessaE: its quite fun to experiment with treegen
14:22 RagnarLaud      jin_xi
14:22 RagnarLaud      PunBB has just killed PhpBB
14:22 RagnarLaud      IM PICKING PUNBB
14:34 VanessaE        zzz
14:34 Garp            Thanks for your answers to my question. (I didnt read, was away)
14:35 Garp            But this error "Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player
14:35 Garp            " appends when I try to connect a client. The client just never connect
14:36 VanessaE        did the client disconnect un-gracefully shortly before that?  i.e.a client crash?
14:36 Garp            VanessaE: no, the client attempt to connect, and stay waiting for the connection, teh server display the message.
14:37 VanessaE        weird.
14:37 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
14:37 Garp            I saw something related to ipv6, but couldnt conclude
14:37 VanessaE        PilzAdam:  ah I've been waiting for you.  Weird carts bug: sometimes they turn "inside out" when placed.
14:37 VanessaE        also hi :-)
14:37 PilzAdam        noticed that too
14:37 VanessaE        Garp: no clue on that.
14:37 PilzAdam        VanessaE, aks Taoki
14:37 PilzAdam        *ask
14:37 Garp            VanessaE: thanks anyway.
14:38 RagnarLaud      hi PilzAdam
14:38 RagnarLaud      im making a website
14:38 RagnarLaud      would you look at that :/
14:40 VanessaE        Garp: sorry I couldn't be more helpful
14:41 RagnarLaud      hey VanessaE
14:41 VanessaE        hm?
14:41 RagnarLaud      i heard you like 404
14:41 RagnarLaud      so i added some 404 on the 404 not found page
14:42 VanessaE        so I put a 503 in your 404 so you can lose your service while your file is not found :-)
14:42 RagnarLaud      WHAT?!
14:42 VanessaE        if you don't know what error 503 is yet, you need to learn more before you start a web server :-)
14:43 VanessaE        (503: service unavailable, usually means the server is overloaded/out of bandwidth)
14:44 RagnarLaud      oh ok
14:44 RagnarLaud      t4ti
14:44 VanessaE        t4ti?
14:45 RagnarLaud      thanks 4 the info -.-
14:45 VanessaE        oh
14:45 VanessaE        that's a new one on me.
14:46 RagnarLaud      oh ok
14:46 RagnarLaud      i just made that up btw
14:46 VanessaE        actually, you didn't :-)
14:46 RagnarLaud      VanessaE do you know how to make html make an image just as big as the web browser?
14:46 RagnarLaud      i kinda did...
14:47 VanessaE        urban dictionary has a listing for the abbreviation, but it means something different.
14:47 RagnarLaud      really?
14:47 RagnarLaud      oh ok
14:47 VanessaE        RagnarLaud: no idea off the top of my head.
14:47 RagnarLaud      well is it possible?
14:47 RagnarLaud      ok
14:47 VanessaE        it's possible with javascript
14:47 VanessaE        I've done something similar, but not exactly the same
14:47 VanessaE        I just don't remember the code anymore
14:48 RagnarLaud      oh ok
14:48 RagnarLaud      im just gonna make the game 1000x1000 pxl
14:48 VanessaE        no
14:48 VanessaE        do it right
14:49 VanessaE        1000x1000 won't fill most people's screens
14:49 VanessaE        (most are probably 1280x1024 or 1920x1080)
14:50 RagnarLaud      its not to fill the whole screen...
14:50 RagnarLaud      but most of it :D
14:50 RagnarLaud      hey how do i change the size in html?
14:50 thexyz          RagnarLaud: width:100%, height:100%
14:50 RagnarLaud      i dont remember :D
14:50 RagnarLaud      oh thanks!
14:50 thexyz          in css
14:50 RagnarLaud      oh... -.-
14:50 RagnarLaud      i ment html...
14:50 RagnarLaud      i just need 1 image to cover the whole screen
14:51 RagnarLaud      im making a 404 not found screen...
14:51 RagnarLaud      i got the image, but its small...
14:51 VanessaE        you'd be better off having 3 or 4 copies of the image and using a little javascript to serve up the right one depending on screen resolution
14:52 VanessaE        or going with svg if you can
14:52 VanessaE        RagnarLaud: rule #1 when serving images:  don't start with a small image and scale up - it'll look butt ugly.   Find the original size image and scale it *down*, and only if you need to.
14:53 RagnarLaud      i know it will look butt ugly :D
14:53 RagnarLaud      thats the whole point of it
14:53 VanessaE        rule #2, don't use GIF unless you have no choice. :-)
14:53 jin_xi          gifs are good for cats
14:53 VanessaE        rule #3, see rules 1 and 2. :D
14:53 RagnarLaud      i use jpeg
14:53 RagnarLaud      and rune 4?
14:53 RagnarLaud      see rule 3?
14:53 thexyz          use png
14:54 RagnarLaud      i use jpeg
14:54 thexyz          is rule 4
14:54 VanessaE        rule #4: don't use jpg if the image doesn't compress visibly well - use png.  see also, rules 1 and 2.
14:54 Garp            thexyz: width and height are also properties of the <img> tag, even if discouraged for pure css styles.
14:54 VanessaE        you know what?  fuck pure css - there's nothing wrong with using HTML to accomplish a given task if it'll work. :-)
14:54 RagnarLaud      yeah!
14:55 thexyz          Garp: but in <img> it can only be pixels
14:55 RagnarLaud      :D
14:55 Garp            rule whatever: dont bloat small bandwidth with some 100kB image that just say '404' if you can avoid.
14:55 Garp            thexyz: non % are acceptable too
14:55 sokomine        hi everyone
14:56 sokomine        do you know of a way of using formspecs with npc? they do call the function on_rightclick which is helpful. but in this case calling the display of a formspec from withhin that function would be helpful
14:56 VanessaE        mornin' sokomine
14:57 RagnarLaud      http://HVGaming.bugs3.com/sakjdal
14:57 RagnarLaud      go there VanessaE
14:57 thexyz          oh, i was wrong
14:57 VanessaE        ew.
14:57 RagnarLaud      :D
14:57 VanessaE        you violated rule #4 bigtime
14:57 VanessaE        and that meme is so old it's no longer funny
14:57 VanessaE        find a new one :-)
14:57 RagnarLaud      THATS WHY YOU DONT WANT TO FIND SOMETHING THAT ISNT THERE!
14:58 Garp            <p><img src="http://ompldr.org/vZ3Fzeg/index.jpeg" alt="404 Not Found" width="1000" height="750" /></p>
14:58 VanessaE        besides, you also violated the meme itself :-)
14:58 Garp            <p><img src="http://ompldr.org/vZ3Fzeg/index.jpeg" alt="404 Not Found" width="100%" height="100%" /></p>
14:58 Garp            would be simple and would work
14:58 VanessaE        it's "you dawg, I heard you like X, so I put some X in your X so you can Y while you Y."  For one noun X and one verb Y.
14:58 thexyz          +awful
14:58 VanessaE        exactly that form or U FAIL IT.
14:58 VanessaE        :-)
15:02 RagnarLaud      http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Yo+dawg+I+heard+you+like+chests_12d4ec_3638698.jpg
15:04 Garp            I've never been able to put a chest ull of something in another chest.
15:05 RagnarLaud      ikr
15:05 RagnarLaud      yo dawg, i heard you like Mac's
15:05 jin_xi          need to craft a super chest out of 8 chests arranged like wood for a chest
15:06 RagnarLaud      so i put only 1 pedal in your car!
15:07 RagnarLaud      yo dawg
15:07 RagnarLaud      i heard you like penis, so i put a penis in your penis so you could penis while you penis
15:08 Garp            I've anyway be quite amazed by the mass a single person can carry on her back in minetest ;) If a cubic meter of stone would weight about 3000kg, and we can carry 99 of them in a single cell and there are about 40 of them or something like that... We' a several thousands of tons of material...
15:09 RagnarLaud      yo Garp, i heard you like macs, so i broke all the windows in yo house
15:09 sokomine        garp: there's a secret about all these blocks :)
15:09 Garp            sokomine: which one ?
15:09 * sokomine      mumbles something about blocks beeing hollow and deflatable :)
15:10 Garp            hehe :) they are hollow, I'm sure, it's just surface texture, not volumic ones ;)
15:11 RagnarLaud      yo VanessaE i heard you like dreams...
15:11 sokomine        right :-) and the surface texture is very thin. so you can deflate/fold them :)
15:11 RagnarLaud      but arent u thinking u taking it 2 far?
15:11 sokomine        (if you want an explanatin. you could as well say that realism is unheard of :-))
15:11 Garp            RagnarLaud: macintoshes are pretty wonderful, like many dangerous things ;)
15:11 Garp            sokomine: that may explain :)
15:12 sokomine        and you can't dig up a full chest; thus you can't place a full chest anywhere
15:12 RagnarLaud      http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/506654/yo-dawg-yo-yos.jpg
15:12 RagnarLaud      BEST
15:12 Garp            sokomine: yes, that's what I concluded
15:12 RagnarLaud      XZIBIT
15:12 RagnarLaud      MEME
15:12 RagnarLaud      EVER
15:12 sokomine        jinxi: and what's the problem with that?
15:12 jin_xi          wut?
15:14 sokomine        you asked about a super chest? or was that just an answer to garp? :-)
15:14 jin_xi          yep, fail troll answer
15:15 RagnarLaud      hey jin_xi
15:15 sokomine        no-one has an idea about showing formspecs to a player in on_rightclick or other function? :-(
15:15 sokomine        aah :-) ok
15:15 RagnarLaud      yo dawg, i heard you like driving, so i put a video game in your car, so you can crash while you crash
15:16 KikaRz          guys
15:16 KikaRz          who knows installing Twisted in Debian?
15:17 Garp            Is there a tchat systme between players in minetest? How does it work? I found references to some, but not much about how it works
15:20 RagnarLaud      KikaRz
15:20 RagnarLaud      http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/506654/yo-dawg-yo-yos.jpg
15:26 RagnarLaud      VanessaE
15:26 RagnarLaud      jin_xi
15:26 RagnarLaud      somebody
15:26 RagnarLaud      please help me!
15:26 * jin_xi        helps RagnarLaud
15:27 VanessaE        with your web server?  you're best off asking elsewhere about that.
15:27 RagnarLaud      how do i apply a css template?
15:27 VanessaE        RagnarLaud: please go ask this stuff in a more appropriate channel/.
15:28 RagnarLaud      ok :(
15:28 RagnarLaud      wait theres a html code in there -.-
15:28 RagnarLaud      YAY
15:29 RealBadAngel    hi
15:29 jin_xi          hey RealBadAngel
15:29 jin_xi          Been playing with your treegen a lot
15:29 jin_xi          very impressive trees
15:30 jin_xi          check this one: http://i.imgur.com/zGwhR.jpg
15:31 RealBadAngel    wow, nice one
15:31 jin_xi          or this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57769#p57769
15:31 moltenbot       jin_xi's link: [Fun] Post your screenshots! (Page 34) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
15:31 jin_xi          they are huge tho
15:32 sokomine        hi realbadangel
15:32 RealBadAngel    hi
15:32 RealBadAngel    2nd one is also nice, almost like a palm
15:32 sokomine        wow! impressive tree
15:32 RealBadAngel    i will finish in day or two c++ version of it
15:32 KikaRz          TropiCraft.
15:33 RealBadAngel    so it will be way faster
15:33 RealBadAngel    and also will add more commands
15:33 jin_xi          cool, try the rule from second one yourself, takes looong
15:33 RealBadAngel    there are quite a few not yet implemented
15:33 sokomine        c++-version? can it be integrated into the game itshelf?
15:33 jin_xi          yes, but i think its very promising
15:34 jin_xi          also i think lsystem can be used to procedurally make buildings and maybe cities too
15:34 PilzAdam        sokomine, it *has* to be integrated into the game!
15:34 jin_xi          and clouds
15:34 jin_xi          rivers
15:35 jin_xi          so i'm really excited about it
15:35 RagnarLaud      RealBadAngel
15:35 RagnarLaud      help me?
15:41 RealBadAngel    with what/
15:42 RealBadAngel    jin_xi l-systems are mostly used to generate plantlikes
15:42 jin_xi          ok
15:42 RealBadAngel    but seen usage of them to make clouds too
15:43 jin_xi          but i think if 2d rivers could work too
15:45 jin_xi          well, googling for lsystem and city brings up quite a bit
15:45 jin_xi          road generation, but also floor plans, buildings and such
15:46 jin_xi          i'll try anyway ;)
15:50 sokomine        new trees are always nice :-) on singleplayer, i do prefer those mods that make nature more intresting
15:52 sokomine        i want players to build the towns. players are good at that. and it's the thing that makes minetest fun
15:52 RealBadAngel    they make game lookin tottally different
15:52 jin_xi          sorry, gotta go
15:52 VanessaE        sokomine: you haven't been on my server lately :(
15:52 jin_xi          later all
15:53 KikaRz          how to run a .py file in a vps?
15:53 KikaRz          can you tell me VanessaE?
15:53 KikaRz          or RealBadAngel
15:53 VanessaE        python filename.py
15:53 VanessaE        or edit the file and specify #!/usr/bin/python  (or similar) as the first line
15:53 RealBadAngel    idk
15:54 PilzAdam        RealBadAngel, the best thing about the new trees is that it adds a new aspect to the gameplay
15:54 KikaRz          fail
15:54 sokomine        vanessae: i tried. it somehow didn't work. either it was all totally dark or totally empty or only some chunks got loaded :-(
15:55 Garp            Just a questioon: when we cut tree branches, do they regrow again ?
15:55 RealBadAngel    no
15:55 RealBadAngel    but it could be done
15:55 VanessaE        sokomine: this morning the mapgen hung up, but the server has finally stopped crashing
15:56 VanessaE        sokomine: so try again :-)   vanessae.mine.bz:30000
15:56 sokomine        cutting up a very high tree might be difficult. i saw it with jungletrees (that special mod that adds 4-tree-thick jungletrees with very decorative leaves). the timber mod worked partly...until there was a leaf-block inbetween tree-blocks
15:57 Garp            RealBadAngel: that would be a good idea, I think. Even if I dont really understand what is the good balance of realism vs fantasy in such a game.
15:57 sokomine        vanessae: later on :-) don't have long enough time right now
15:57 PilzAdam        sokomine, thats the gameplay aspect i was talking about
15:57 Garp            sokomine: shouldnt a tree cut at its base fall down ?
15:57 sokomine        ah, ok
15:57 KikaRz          forgot pysqlite
15:57 KikaRz          :(
15:57 RealBadAngel    takin down the tree shouldnt be easy
15:58 RealBadAngel    go outside and try to chop down old oak
15:58 sokomine        then most people will cut off that part that is easy and we'll have the crown floating above the land...
15:58 PilzAdam        with your hand
15:58 sokomine        :-)
15:58 PilzAdam        the trees shouldnt be too realistic
15:59 PilzAdam        remember, its still a world based on cubes
15:59 Garp            sokomine: the node world is a very smart idea, but obvious things are very hard to implement with that paradigm
15:59 RealBadAngel    of, course, but thanks to axioms trees can be fully customizable
15:59 sokomine        good-looking trees are a plus, though. as long as they are very sparsely used. maybe "crafted" by the player somehow. or if the player gives the tree minerals
15:59 Garp            like rotations.
16:00 sokomine        yes, that's a problem
16:00 Garp            so having a "falling tree" looks almost impossible
16:00 KikaRz          VanessaE
16:00 KikaRz          how to extract a tar gz ?
16:00 Garp            tar zxvf myfile.tar.gz
16:00 sokomine        i thought of falling trees as well. if there is enough free space...it might partly work
16:00 RealBadAngel    or use archive manager just
16:00 PilzAdam        -1 for falling trees
16:01 Garp            sokomine: how do you rotate the trunk? It could baybe behave like sand: just go down verically
16:01 sokomine        every tree ought to supply horizontal tree-blocks for his...er...tree-parts :-)
16:01 RealBadAngel    this is voxel world, such things do not fit it
16:01 RealBadAngel    that can be easily done
16:01 PilzAdam        RealBadAngel, the best would be to just implement the trees as you currently have, maybe some different axioms
16:02 PilzAdam        no extra features
16:02 sokomine        oh, i don't know. the timber-mod is very practical for actual aquiring of tree. but if a npc would fell a tree that would look rather stupid. plus they'd have to be slower than players. thus, if an npc fells a tree, it would be a plus if the tree would be lying on the ground
16:02 RealBadAngel    c++ code wont carry any axioms
16:02 RealBadAngel    they gonna be passed to the generator from lua
16:02 Garp            How, btw while we're talking about physics...
16:03 Garp            I spent quite some time to get an underground river to fall on a lava lake, hoping to enjoy a very nice spectacle... and nothing happened :(
16:03 RealBadAngel    or from a worldgen if some1 decides to use them (im pointin hmmm)
16:04 RealBadAngel    since hes coding new worldgen
16:04 sokomine        will your tree-code be genal enough for all the diffrent kind of trees out there? some trees just add other nodes or fruits instead of some leaves; that could be done with a general function. large jungletrees and conifers have diffrent algorithms
16:04 PilzAdam        sokomine, RBA's code is based on axioms, so that every kind of tree is possible
16:05 sokomine        garp: there's a mod that adds obsidian. i believe it follows the water+lava->obsidian paradigm
16:05 sokomine        that's good
16:05 RealBadAngel    adding fruits, horizontal branches are things that could be done
16:05 Garp            sokomine: water+lava should first give a tremendous explosion
16:05 RealBadAngel    so i could add more axiom elements
16:05 sokomine        how about ore generation? that might be another thing which might wander into the c++-part
16:06 RealBadAngel    ask hmmm bout it
16:06 RealBadAngel    im doing just trees
16:06 Zeg9            Hey there
16:06 KikaRz          VanessaE
16:06 KikaRz          I got
16:06 KikaRz          /usr/local/include/python2.7/stringobject.h:63: note: expected 'const char *' but argument is of type 'int'
16:06 KikaRz          error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
16:06 KikaRz          when installing pysqlite
16:07 sokomine        garp: better not :-) think about people playing with them...there'd be a lot of explosions :-( and steam
16:07 RealBadAngel    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5921947/pyaudio-installation-error-command-gcc-failed-with-exit-status-1
16:07 moltenbot       RealBadAngel's link: python - Pyaudio installation error - 'command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1' - Stack Overflow
16:08 sokomine        well, trees are good. i'm looking forward to them :-)
16:08 KikaRz          total different RealBadAngel
16:08 KikaRz          thats pyaudio
16:08 KikaRz          i want pysqlite
16:08 KikaRz          xd
16:08 RealBadAngel    same error
16:08 RealBadAngel    look at solution
16:08 Garp            sokomine: lava is between 1000-1300°C, meeting water at sea-level atmospheric preasure should create lot of steam. 1 block of water cnverst to about 1000 blocks of steam, at deadly temperature, and exploding everything that try to contain it.
16:08 RealBadAngel    maybe you should follow same way
16:09 KikaRz          no
16:09 KikaRz          im in VPS
16:09 KikaRz          shell / PuTTY
16:09 PilzAdam        Garp, be sure to be not too realistic ;-)
16:10 KikaRz          so, whats the solution RealBadAngel?
16:10 RealBadAngel    reinstalling pysqlite?
16:10 KikaRz          ...
16:10 KikaRz          im installing it
16:10 KikaRz          and i cant
16:10 KikaRz          -.-
16:10 Garp            PilzAdam: well, I though to some "steam source" begin created at contact, with maybe 2 or 3 lava states: hot lava contact water: steam, and "less hot" lava block conversion. If water still on some "less hot" lava convert to cold solid
16:11 Garp            PilzAdam: steam would be managed like a liquid
16:11 RealBadAngel    from error log i see youre tryin to compile  something
16:11 Garp            OK? I know, that's a bit too much ;)
16:11 RealBadAngel    and it looks like installation of some libraries are fucked up
16:11 RealBadAngel    reinstall them all
16:12 KikaRz          Going to see
16:12 KikaRz          I CANT!
16:12 PilzAdam        Garp, go to the realtest author ;-)
16:12 KikaRz          pastebinning...
16:12 Garp            PilzAdam: lol, for sure, reality is far more complex than what we can simulate.
16:13 RealBadAngel    sudo apt-get install python-sqlite
16:13 RealBadAngel    try this way
16:14 KikaRz          http://pastebin.com/Dn5QnYEU
16:14 moltenbot       KikaRz's link: [Bash]   root@kikarz1vps:~/pysqlite-2.6.3# python setup.py install                      - Pastebin.com
16:14 KikaRz          not finded
16:15 KikaRz          OOOH!
16:15 KikaRz          WORKS!
16:15 KikaRz          THANK YOU MY ANGEL!
16:15 RealBadAngel    lol, no problemo
16:16 KikaRz          SAME PROBLEM
16:16 KikaRz          http://pastebin.com/kSEndnTV
16:16 moltenbot       KikaRz's link: [Python] root@kikarz1vps:~/miceserver# python transformiceserver.py  Traceback (most rece - Pastebin.com
16:17 RealBadAngel    sudo apt-get install python-sqlite3
16:17 RealBadAngel    maybe?
16:17 KikaRz          Nope
16:18 KikaRz          Unable to locate package python-sqlite3
16:18 RealBadAngel    try to find all sqlite packages in app manager
16:18 KikaRz          VPS.
16:18 KikaRz          Putty / SSL
16:19 RealBadAngel    i cannot do that because im not on ubuntu
16:20 KikaRz          Ah!
16:20 KikaRz          guess i need
16:20 KikaRz          libsqlite3-dev
16:20 KikaRz          yea
16:20 KikaRz          ‎must be
16:20 KikaRz          no
16:21 KikaRz          still giving error
16:22 RealBadAngel    same?
16:22 KikaRz          Yea.
16:23 RealBadAngel    wowsers
16:24 RealBadAngel    googlin for "pysqllite3" gives ONE result ;)
16:24 KikaRz          sqlite-devel
16:24 KikaRz          i think
16:24 RealBadAngel    notice the typo btw ;)
16:24 KikaRz          No.
16:24 KikaRz          not working
16:26 RealBadAngel    http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-May/230303.html
16:26 moltenbot       RealBadAngel's link:  Enable Sqlite3 module in python
16:26 RealBadAngel    try this solution
16:28 KikaRz          Thats FreeBSD
16:28 KikaRz          not Debian
16:30 KikaRz          installing sqlite3
16:30 KikaRz          not worked :'(
16:30 KikaRz          i'm getting angry and sad :(
16:31 thexyz          !g python sqlite debian
16:31 Minetest-tan    thexyz: http://packages.debian.org/python-sqlite
16:31 KikaRz          Install databases/py-sqlite3, how to install?
16:33 KikaRz          :(
16:34 KikaRz          i can't >>> import sqlite3
16:35 KikaRz          ImportError: No module named _sqlite3
16:35 sfan5           KikaRz: you installed it wrong
16:36 KikaRz          no i didnt
16:36 KikaRz          I'm tired.
16:36 sfan5           how did you install it?
16:37 KikaRz          wget python.org/ftp/.../Python-2.7.2.tgz
16:37 KikaRz          next
16:37 KikaRz          tar -xzf
16:37 KikaRz          then cd Python-2.7.2
16:37 KikaRz          ./configure
16:38 KikaRz          and then sudo apt-get python2.7
16:38 RealBadAngel    To install the port: cd /usr/ports/databases/sqlite3/ && make install clean
16:38 RealBadAngel    To add the package: pkg_add -r sqlite3
16:38 sfan5           KikaRz: that makes no sense
16:38 KikaRz          i know
16:38 KikaRz          i was without anything to configure it
16:38 thexyz          KikaRz: (20:30:14) Minetest-tan: thexyz: http://packages.debian.org/python-sqlite
16:38 moltenbot       thexyz's link: Debian -- Package Search Results -- python-sqlite
16:38 KikaRz          and cmake make i
16:38 thexyz          you shouldn't install packages from source
16:38 sfan5           you download the python sources configure them and then you install the precompiled package
16:39 KikaRz          thexyz, that dont work
16:39 RealBadAngel    she had pysqlite already
16:39 sfan5           KikaRz: which linux distro do you use?
16:39 RealBadAngel    but pyslite3 is missing
16:39 KikaRz          debian
16:39 KikaRz          Sistema Operacional	Debian 6 32bit
16:40 KikaRz          Sistema Operacional = Operating System
16:40 KikaRz          RealBadAngel
16:40 sfan5           try su -c "apt-get install python-sqlite"
16:40 KikaRz          no i dont
16:40 KikaRz          root@kikarz1vps:~/miceserver# cd /usr/ports/databases/sqlite3 && make install clean
16:40 KikaRz          -bash: cd: /usr/ports/databases/sqlite3: No such file or directory
16:40 RealBadAngel    http://www.freshports.org/databases/py-sqlite3
16:40 moltenbot       RealBadAngel's link: FreshPorts -- databases/py-sqlite3
16:41 KikaRz          what i do with that site, RealBadAngel
16:41 RealBadAngel    dunno :) read it/
16:41 RealBadAngel    ?
16:42 KikaRz          how to download it?
16:43 RealBadAngel    pkg_add -r py27-sqlite3
16:43 RealBadAngel    tried this?
16:44 KikaRz          -bash: pkg_add: command not found
16:44 KikaRz          RealBadAngel
16:44 KikaRz          you on which OS?
16:46 RealBadAngel    squeeze
16:46 KikaRz          debian?
16:46 RealBadAngel    yes
16:46 KikaRz          my vps got squeeze
16:46 KikaRz          can you go query?
16:47 marktraceur     KikaRz: Did you try sfan5's suggestion?
16:48 KikaRz          dont works
16:48 sfan5           whats the output?
16:49 marktraceur     KikaRz: Use a pastebin, please
16:49 KikaRz          fuck
16:49 KikaRz          wait!
16:49 KikaRz          my pc its lagging!!!
16:50 KikaRz          PSY was 2012's Internet breakout star as Gangnam Style approached 1 billion views and became YouTube's most-watched video of all time in just 6 months
16:51 NakedFury       it just needs 37 million more to reach 1 billion
16:51 KikaRz          Yea!
16:51 sfan5           KikaRz: can you paste the output of 'su -c "apt-get install python-sqlite"'?
16:51 KikaRz          Fuck this PC
16:51 KikaRz          sfan5, i already installed
16:53 RealBadAngel    sfan5 it doesnt come with database port sqlite3
16:53 RealBadAngel    she already installed python-sqlite module
16:54 KikaRz          FUCK THIS GOOGLE CHROME!
16:54 VanessaE        use firefox :-)
16:54 RealBadAngel    sfan5, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-May/230303.html
16:54 moltenbot       RealBadAngel's link:  Enable Sqlite3 module in python
16:54 KikaRz          VanessaE
16:54 KikaRz          i use Firefox
16:54 RealBadAngel    question is how
16:54 VanessaE        good :-)
16:54 Jordach         CHROME FTW
16:54 VanessaE        fuck chrome :-)
16:55 Jordach         firefox leaks memory like a hole in a bucket
16:55 RealBadAngel    better the hole than a niagara falls in IE
16:56 KikaRz          lol
16:56 KikaRz          John, it's dead!
16:56 Jordach         RealBadAngel, yeah
16:56 KikaRz          RealBadAngel, ID and pass on query
16:56 KikaRz          It's the 8.
16:56 Jordach         KikaRz, did you mean: It's dead Jim! ?
16:57 KikaRz          Yep.
16:57 KikaRz          xd
17:00 Calinou         so apt-get upgrade says:
17:00 Calinou         Les paquets suivants seront mis à jour :  linux-generic linux-libc-dev
17:00 Calinou         seems legit
17:00 Calinou         libc upgrades ftw
17:02 KikaRz          ??
17:02 KikaRz          what?
17:04 markveidemanis  hi
17:04 KikaRz          RealBadAngel, take the niagara to other place and come to query
17:06 Calinou         xchat
17:06 Calinou         y u disappear from tray
17:08 KikaRz          Haha! Calinou is disappearing!
17:09 OldCoder        Hi
17:10 PilzAdam        marktraceur is OP?
17:10 OldCoder        PilzAdam, PM
17:11 RealBadAngel    i wonder just about one thing
17:11 RealBadAngel    default trees shall be renamed after L-systems once or rename in mapgen to default:bush? ;)
17:11 thexyz          OldCoder: has c55 approved this?
17:12 RealBadAngel    *deleted
17:13 markveidemanis  who thin
17:13 markveidemanis  k##
17:13 markveidemanis  who thinks they are a good builder/architect?
17:13 KikaRz          bush?
17:13 KikaRz          George W. Bush ?
17:13 KikaRz          XD
17:14 Calinou         wtf, with assaultcube I get higher FPS when compsoting is enabled when having 16x AA
17:14 Calinou         compositing*
17:15 markveidemanis  who can make me an entity mod?
17:16 VanessaE        http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4134
17:16 moltenbot       VanessaE's link: Proposal:  Change the behavior of Mese (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
17:16 VanessaE        please all vote on this strawpoll
17:16 VanessaE        I need stats.
17:17 Jordach         can i has proxy abuse?
17:17 OldCoder        thexyz, Yes. Last night. PM
17:17 VanessaE        er, well I can't do much about proxies, I don't run the service on which that poll runs
17:20 markveidemanis  !define hello
17:20 moltenbot       http://ddg.dg: hello definition: an expression or gesture of greeting —used interjectionally in greeting, in answering the telephone, or to express surprise.
17:21 Calinou         !define markveidemanis
17:21 moltenbot       no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
17:21 Calinou         !define thinking
17:21 moltenbot       http://ddg.dg: thinking definition: the action of using one's mind to produce thoughts.
17:22 Calinou         hi
17:22 Calinou         O_o default program for .conf files is libreoffice
17:22 VanessaE        john_minetest, OldCoder:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4134
17:22 moltenbot       VanessaE's link: Proposal:  Change the behavior of Mese (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
17:22 Calinou         I tried to open my minetest.conf :P
17:22 VanessaE        oh shut up you stupid bot
17:23 Calinou         VanessaE: I voted about lumps/ingots
17:23 VanessaE        ok
17:23 Calinou         lol'd at the last option
17:23 VanessaE        the last option was supposed to be a Cowboy-Neal-esque option as seen in slashdot pools :-)
17:23 OldCoder        I will review
17:24 VanessaE        polls*
17:24 markveidemanis  !define minetest-tan
17:24 moltenbot       no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
17:25 markveidemanis  !define moltenbot
17:25 moltenbot       no definition found, try to use 'thinking'
17:26 VanessaE        shit and I misspelled vers[a]tile :-/
17:39 marktraceur     PilzAdam: What's up?
17:39 KikaRz          !define boring
17:39 moltenbot       http://ddg.dg: boring definition: causing boredom.
17:39 PilzAdam        marktraceur, BF 3
17:39 KikaRz          marveidemanis, that you doing its causing boredom
17:40 marktraceur     PilzAdam: Fair 'nuff
17:40 celeron55       no kickban because of proprietary? 8)
17:41 PilzAdam        You may ban me when I tell you that i play it on the XBox 360
17:41 * celeron55     loves pointy jokes
17:41 marktraceur     celeron55: :)
17:41 * Jordach       high fives PilzAdam for using a 360
17:41 marktraceur     celeron55: Not to worry, I'm not so fast and loose with authourity. With great power comes great cupcakes.
17:41 Jordach         Evil beware, we have waffles.
17:41 kaeza           hi!
17:41 celeron55       marktraceur: i was fine with giving you +o because i know you are quite liberal
17:42 kaeza           good afternoon channel!
17:42 Calinou         oh no, BSD^H^H^H^H WTFPL will be opped
17:43 KikaRz          good morning kaeza
17:43 kaeza           hey KikaRz
17:43 kaeza           what's up?
17:43 KikaRz          tired.
17:43 KikaRz          trying to make the fucking python to work
17:44 KikaRz          RealBadAngel, passed 5 minutes.
17:44 marktraceur     celeron55: I assure you, I may be rather interested in voicing my opinion, but I'm just as interested in others voicing theirs. Op status isn't some political soapbox, nobody here should be worried unless they're doing something clearly bad.
17:44 kaeza           KikaRz: what's the issue?
17:44 KikaRz          _sqlite3.
17:47 KikaRz          make can't be faster?
17:48 marktraceur     KikaRz: It's mostly limited by your hardware, so....no, probably not
17:48 markveidemanis  p
17:49 marktraceur     markveidemanis: q
17:49 Calinou         r
17:49 PilzAdam        s
17:49 marktraceur     All right all right I'm sorry I encouraged this
17:51 * Calinou       waits for ragnar saying "t"
17:51 Calinou         he's not here :>
17:57 Minetest-tan    GIT: sfan5 (sfan5) commited to celeron55/minetest: Tweak CMake files for cURL 05b58501f2 2012-12-18T09:52:56-08:00
17:57 sfan5           yay
17:57 Calinou         curls!
17:59 markveidemanis  my server has irc mod, anyone wanna come on?
17:59 kaeza           hello sfan5
17:59 markveidemanis  address: click my name, the whois
17:59 markveidemanis  port:30000
17:59 sfan5           hi kaeza
18:00 marktraceur     markveidemanis: You're in here very frequently advertising your server, is there some reason you're here today in particular?
18:01 markveidemanis  i have the irc mod and was wondering if anyone would like to see it working on my server
18:01 marktraceur     markveidemanis: And that's a new development? I think I've seen you using the IRC mod before.
18:01 markveidemanis  yep
18:02 marktraceur     markveidemanis: "yep[, I've used it before]"?
18:02 markveidemanis  yep
18:02 markveidemanis  :)
18:03 marktraceur     Then please advertise on the forums, announce here for changes.
18:03 marktraceur     Only if there are people here who are affected by your changes, though. If your server has no residents, or none of them are in attendance, just use the forum.
18:03 markveidemanis  its not always on and ip changes
18:04 VanessaE        markveidemanis: http://freedns.afraid.org/
18:04 moltenbot       VanessaE's link: FreeDNS - Free DNS - Dynamic DNS - Static DNS subdomain and domain hosting
18:04 kaeza           markveidemanis: we still need to fix a few issues
18:04 VanessaE        that'll help with the dynamic IP.
18:04 PilzAdam        VanessaE, tips to get the mese patch merged: http://youtu.be/0YOh-rpvjYg
18:04 moltenbot       PilzAdam's link: Family Guy - Undecided Voters - YouTube
18:05 VanessaE        PilzAdam: eh..  no audio right now, I'm listening to music.  Undecided voters appear not to be a problem though.
18:06 PilzAdam        http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57942#p57942
18:06 moltenbot       PilzAdam's link: Proposal:  Change the behavior of Mese (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:06 kaeza           PilzAdam: lol
18:06 kaeza           I love family guy
18:07 * Jordach       finally wired a super safe reactor up in tekkit
18:15 KikaRz          now having problems with
18:15 KikaRz          E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
18:15 kaeza1          ?
18:15 KikaRz          :(
18:16 rubenwardy      hi all
18:16 kaeza1          hi rubenwardy
18:17 Penguin_        hi
18:17 KikaRz          FUCK THIS!
18:17 KikaRz          :@@
18:17 Penguin_        wha
18:17 KikaRz          HATE THIS PYTHON!
18:18 mauvebic        whats wrong?
18:18 KikaRz          AGAIN! THE STUPID _SQLITE
18:18 kaeza1          KikaRz: pastebin the code or the error
18:18 KikaRz          ImportError: No module named _sqlite3
18:18 KikaRz          ALREADY
18:18 kaeza1          install sqlite then
18:18 KikaRz          ALREADY
18:19 KikaRz          NOT THAT PROBLEM
18:19 kaeza1          windows?
18:19 mauvebic        yeah python is a bitch when it comes to importing modules lol
18:19 KikaRz          linux
18:19 mauvebic        especially in linux, the modules seem to change names from dist to the next
18:20 mauvebic        try a dist specific search for your module
18:20 mauvebic        i went through 5 python spiders before coming up with enough bits to have a working one lol
18:21 mauvebic        and check with version of python your use (ie #!/usr/bin/env python2)
18:21 rubenwardy      hi
18:22 mauvebic        howdy
18:22 berome          hi
18:22 KikaRz          kaeza1, sorry for pasting that big in query.
18:22 KikaRz          2.7.2
18:23 mauvebic        try either
18:23 mauvebic        #!/usr/bin/env python
18:23 mauvebic        #!/usr/bin/env python3
18:23 mauvebic        its stupid but it often solved my problems lol
18:24 mauvebic        or with 2 instead of 3
18:30 Zeg9            'later all
18:30 celeron55       mauvebic: you could just run the script explicitly by python or python2 or python3
18:30 celeron55       like python3 foo.py
18:32 OldCoder        kaeza, kaeza1, if you wish to try another pass over IRC mod I can do so tonight
18:32 mauvebic        even when calling from lua's os.execute?
18:33 kaeza           OldCoder: we seem to have fixed the autoconnect and the flooding
18:33 kaeza           but autojoin is having some issues for kizeren right now
18:34 markveidemanis  some one plz recommend a mod
18:34 kaeza           markveidemanis: IRC, computer :)
18:34 markveidemanis  !define IRC
18:34 moltenbot       http://ddg.dg: An international computer network of Internet servers, using its own protocol through which individual users can hold real-time online conversations.
18:34 markveidemanis  nah
18:34 markveidemanis  laggs a lot
18:35 markveidemanis  only 16x16 textures
18:35 kaeza           my decorative computers uses 32x32
18:35 markveidemanis  something similar to the ufo mod?
18:35 markveidemanis  something similar to the building_blocks mod?
18:35 kaeza           because with 16x16 I cannot provide any detail
18:36 marktraceur     markveidemanis: There's a WHOLE FORUM for this sort of thing!
18:36 mauvebic        one thing i dont get about python is half their users seem to hate v3 even though i cant tell the difference much lol
18:36 markveidemanis  maybe someone is working on a private mod...
18:36 kaeza           mauvebic: ditto here
18:36 marktraceur     markveidemanis: Then they're probably not interested in telling anyone about it yet, or they would have posted it....where?
18:37 KikaRz          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTCmHC8IuuI&list=PLSTz8jpJdr5q0wKLjV-_pary9NH-i7ODs
18:37 moltenbot       KikaRz's link: Interactive Timeline: YouTube Rewind 2012 (Global) - YouTube
18:37 KikaRz          :D
18:37 KikaRz          so cool
18:37 mauvebic        same with php though i learned v3 and apparently 4 and 5 are as bloated as a store-bought windows machine lol
18:37 kaeza           lol
18:37 mauvebic        though i lost interest when that zend crap got big
18:38 kaeza           IMHO v3 brings new features not worth for a major version change
18:38 kaeza           it should be 2.8, 2.9, ...
18:38 mauvebic        my only concerns is reverse-compat for syntax and modules
18:39 mauvebic        unlike macrosoft which supports a different platform every six months lol
18:39 kaeza           yeah
18:39 mauvebic        all their accreditations make for fancy expensive toilet paper
18:39 kaeza           and WinXP progs don't work on Win9X
18:39 kaeza           lol
18:39 marktraceur     kaeza: The idea is that it breaks backwards compatibility a lot
18:40 kaeza           marktraceur: but not so that required a 2->3 change in numbering IMHO
18:41 mauvebic        i care less about version numbers too lol
18:41 mauvebic        its mostly in the head
18:41 kaeza           what incompatibilities does it introduce?
18:41 kaeza           I've run most of my v2 progs in v3 with no probs
18:42 kaeza           except maybe for Tkinter-based ones
18:42 mauvebic        in the future: when politicians will need a major distraction, they'll throw out a new version number for their policies lol
18:42 kaeza           lol
18:42 kizeren         There are politicians using github for bills now
18:42 kaeza           haven't then been doing than for ages with those "ammendments"?
18:43 kaeza           them*
18:43 markveidemanis  can i have link to mauvemods plz
18:43 kaeza           that*
18:43 mauvebic        <markveidemanis> https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/
18:43 moltenbot       mauvebic's link: mauvemods
18:44 kaeza1          I should ditch this 3G thing
18:44 mauvebic        3G?
18:45 kaeza1          wireless modem
18:45 Calinou         lol3g
18:45 Calinou         the only thing that brings money to ISPs :> too bad
18:45 markveidemanis  i quite like 3g, reliable, doesn't crash...
18:45 kaeza1          every now and then it turns on the "Yellow light of death"
18:46 kaeza1          switching to HSPA
18:46 kaeza1          and fucking my connection speed
18:46 markveidemanis  HSDPA?
18:46 kizeren         We just had an ISP roll in and start putting up 4G towers......
18:46 kizeren         Anyone using 4G wireless internet?
18:47 mauvebic        only when the DSL aint workin
18:49 kaeza1          I'm stuck with this for this month. I'll try to switch to a better connection next moth
18:49 kaeza1          month*
18:50 kaeza1          kizeren: have you found any clue on the IRC issue?
18:51 markveidemanis  is there a server with no mods?
18:52 kaeza1          markveidemanis: I can make one later
18:52 markveidemanis  on a vps|
18:52 markveidemanis  >?
18:52 kaeza1          direct connection
18:55 sokomine        why a server without mods? servers usually need some sort of protection. and the world only gets really intresting with some mods :-) be it those that provide special blocks for buildings, extend nature with plants, supply useful tools or something else...
18:55 rubenwardy      no mods = no game
18:55 OldCoder        kaeza1, that is excellent news. I will test later
18:55 rubenwardy      you mean a server with only defualt game
18:55 rubenwardy      fault
18:55 kaeza1          some prefer a clean world
18:56 markveidemanis  fust like in 0.3.1.
18:56 markveidemanis  #just
18:57 kaeza1          talking about that, someone posted in the forums about making a server for 0.3.1, was that you?
18:57 markveidemanis  people were still able to build then, and some of the buildings built then were much better than ones built now
18:57 markveidemanis  nah
18:57 markveidemanis  0.4.4
18:57 markveidemanis  i like the new graphics of 044
18:57 markveidemanis  maybe a few mods...
18:57 markveidemanis  can you make a server?
18:58 kaeza1          how about pvp free-for all
18:58 kaeza1          ?
18:58 markveidemanis  k
18:58 markveidemanis  can i send you my mods?
18:58 kaeza1          rifle + gunmod + armor
18:59 kaeza1          k
18:59 kaeza1          post your mod list first
18:59 kaeza1          I don't wand to download a 30MB file
18:59 kaeza1          want*
19:00 kaeza1          OldCoder: k
19:00 OldCoder        markveidemanis, I can host worlds but they need to be interesting
19:00 Jordach         RealBadAngel, present?
19:00 OldCoder        I am switching to BackupCoder on the bus
19:00 Jordach         when did phones support VNC?
19:00 OldCoder        Jordach, Hi! Jordach would you like to build some Christmas on one of my worlds using your new mod?
19:01 OldCoder        Jordach, He is a bouncer
19:01 OldCoder        mrtux can explain later
19:01 Jordach         OldCoder, im busy with automated technic
19:01 OldCoder        Jordach, O.K. Ask somebody else to do so if they wish
19:01 OldCoder        I would love to post an Xmas screenshot
19:01 OldCoder        Got to go; people are waiting for me in San Jose. See you when I get on the bus.
19:01 Jordach         i have a machine to produce emc, which makes tin + uranium + auto crafting + reactor = free uranium.
19:02 OldCoder        Jordach, Sounds fun
19:02 kizeren         kaeza1 not really no clue yet.
19:02 OldCoder        Boom!
19:02 Jordach         and another machine to produce coolant
19:02 OldCoder        NakedFury, kaeza1, sokomine anybody else: Like to try Jordach Christmas mod on one of my worlds?
19:02 kaeza1          OldCoder: Sure! IP?
19:03 Jordach         hold on five ticks
19:03 kizeren         have it installed here at home pretty neat wife likes it
19:03 OldCoder        kaeza1, pick any of my worlds; most have it. Jordach will tell you procedure maybe. If it does not work do not worry. See you later!
19:03 kaeza1          thx
19:03 markveidemanis  oldcoder - i will send you the modpack
19:03 kaeza1          later Coder
19:03 OldCoder        kaeza1, OpenMine has default interact if I have not interacted you. markveidemanis ty
19:04 * OldCoder      leaves but will return
19:05 kaeza1          Jordach is OC's server minetest.org?
19:05 Jordach         yes
19:05 kaeza1          ok
19:05 kaeza1          port?
19:05 Jordach         also, btw, i did implement vertical wiring, but they dont work
19:05 iqualfragile    kaeza1: multiple
19:05 kaeza1          Jordach: good
19:05 kaeza1          iqualfragile: thx
19:05 Jordach         as in crafting
19:05 iqualfragile    up to 7 i think… not shure about that
19:06 iqualfragile    look at minetest.org for more information
19:06 kaeza1          iqualfragile: will do
19:06 iqualfragile    away playing anno 1602
19:08 rubenwardy      bye all
19:08 markveidemanis  http://ompldr.org/vZ3F4NQ/My ModPack.zip
19:08 kaeza1          bye rubenwardy
19:09 kaeza1          markveidemanis: DL'ing
19:10 kaeza1          markveidemanis: quite an interesting pack
19:15 sokomine        markveidemanis: it depends on people how well they may bild. many can gain better building skills by practising. there are still some good builders around
19:17 sokomine        i have some trouble with the stairs though. they are more difficult to place than lines of plain blocks. building a roof with stairs by hand takes significantly longer than with something like worldedit in creative
19:18 sokomine        jordach: on which port is your christmas mod installed? does it need further testing?
19:18 Jordach         sokomine, it is installed on all servers
19:18 sokomine        ah, ok
19:19 sokomine        then i'll take calinous world where i already have a mine and a small house
19:26 BackupCoder     kaeza. hi
19:27 kaeza           hi BackupCoder
19:27 BackupCoder     sokomine you too hey
19:30 sokomine        hi backupcoder :-)
19:32 markveidemanis  kaeza1
19:32 markveidemanis  is the server done
19:33 kaeza1          not yet
19:33 kaeza1          I'm a bit busy with other project of mine
19:33 markveidemanis  link?
19:35 thexyz          enjoy brand new http://api.minetest.net/
19:35 moltenbot       thexyz's link: Minetest API
19:35 kaeza1          http://cosmorpg.sf.net
19:35 moltenbot       kaeza1's link: Legend of Cosmo
19:35 marktraceur     Gasp! Sexy, thexyz!
19:35 thexyz          it still needs a lot of work
19:36 thexyz          so any help is greatly appreciated
19:37 BackupCoder     thexyz r
19:37 marktraceur     Yes, I'll help work on it this week probably
19:37 markveidemanis  oldcoder...
19:37 marktraceur     Great stuff
19:37 markveidemanis  can you setup an extra server
19:38 thexyz          the top priority are functions that register something, like register_node, etc.
19:38 BackupCoder     thexyz very nice
19:38 BackupCoder     markv if it is interesting only
19:39 markveidemanis  i have link...somewhere
19:39 BackupCoder     markv this stuff costs me cash
19:40 BackupCoder     markveidemanis
19:41 markveidemanis  it wont cost as much as other servers, its a no-,mapgen worl
19:41 markveidemanis  d
19:42 kaeza1          VanessaE: you here?
19:45 BackupCoder     youlysses hi
19:53 PilzAdam        gtg; bye
19:54 BackupCoder     c u
19:58 markveidemanis  anyone still have the link for my modpack?
19:59 kaeza1          markveidemanis: yes
20:00 kaeza1          markveidemanis: http://ompldr.org/vZ3F4NQ/My ModPack.zip
20:00 markveidemanis  ty
20:21 kaeza1          hello jojoa1997
20:21 jojoa1997       back from school finally
20:27 jordan4ibanez   http://i.imgur.com/tsRlr.gif
20:29 kaeza           hello jordan4ibanez
20:29 kaeza           ...interesting
20:47 RagnarLaud      Hi
20:48 RagnarLaud      Hi minetest-tan
20:48 Minetest-tan    Hello RagnarLaud!
20:48 RagnarLaud      Hi moltenbot
20:48 moltenbot       hi RagnarLaud
20:50 marktraceur     RagnarLaud: It's not really necessary to greet both bots every time you enter the channel :)
20:51 RagnarLaud      Im just being a friend.
20:51 RagnarLaud      Bots have feelings too
20:52 marktraceur     RagnarLaud: I assure you, they don't. Feel free to greet the channel, but five lines of you talking to yourself seems excessive somehow
20:53 RagnarLaud      Really?
20:53 RagnarLaud      5 lines?
20:55 marktraceur     RagnarLaud: Considering yesterday's flood of "!joke" I don't think I'm out of line to be cautious when you generate a lot of text, especially related to the bots in-channel.
20:55 jin_xi          dont humanize bots. they hate it!
20:56 celeron55       i already requested the bot maintainers to remove the "hi" commands from them
20:56 celeron55       apparently nobody heard
20:56 celeron55       maybe they hear now
20:56 celeron55       i hope they do
20:56 marktraceur     !owner
20:56 * marktraceur   sighs
20:56 marktraceur     Ah
20:56 celeron55       i have no idea who owns them, so it's kind of hard to tell them
20:56 marktraceur     Clever
20:56 marktraceur     iqualfragile: Please disable the "hi" command on moltenbot
20:56 marktraceur     I think Minetest-tan is from sfan5|OFF
20:57 iqualfragile    celeron55: now i heardi t
20:57 EqualsRagnar    The code is, but he doesnt host them
20:58 iqualfragile    im gona disable it if you wish me to
20:58 iqualfragile    but i could allso move the answert to a private message
20:58 iqualfragile    or block some individuals
20:59 marktraceur     iqualfragile: It seems like it's a useless enough feature that it can be safely disabled.
20:59 iqualfragile    its not useless
20:59 marktraceur     ...
20:59 iqualfragile    bots have feelings, too
20:59 iqualfragile    moltenbot is a bot
21:00 RealBadAngel    wait, ragnar is in love with a bot?
21:00 RealBadAngel    fascinating
21:00 marktraceur     iqualfragile: Support that with evidence, peer-reviewed articles preferably studying your bots that are apparently miracles of modern science, or remove the useless feature.
21:01 iqualfragile    you cant show feelings with science
21:01 RealBadAngel    just let them pretend in private ;)
21:01 marktraceur     iqualfragile: I disagree. Functional MRIs are able to show many emotional responses.
21:02 iqualfragile    just did that
21:02 RealBadAngel    preprogrammed
21:02 rdwrer          moltenbot: Hi
21:03 marktraceur     K
21:03 iqualfragile    nah, wronk systax
21:03 iqualfragile    u must use hi moltenbot
21:03 rdwrer          Hi moltenbot
21:03 RealBadAngel    which makes no emotions, but trickin folks just
21:04 marktraceur     iqualfragile: It PMd me
21:04 iqualfragile    jup, thats intentional
21:04 marktraceur     ....borderline, but OK
21:04 RealBadAngel    now go furhter check nick, if nick is *ragnar* pm him with "hello my love"
21:05 EqualsRagnar    Hi RBA
21:06 RealBadAngel    hi, i tryin to get you some emotional responses ;)
21:07 EqualsRagnar    Stop xD
21:07 EqualsRagnar    Hey RBA
21:07 EqualsRagnar    Tell jojoa that he can trust me
21:08 RealBadAngel    jojoa?
21:08 EqualsRagnar    jojoa1997
21:09 jojoa1997       me
21:09 EqualsRagnar    Tell him RBA
21:09 EqualsRagnar    That if can trust me
21:09 EqualsRagnar    He
21:10 kaeza           hello RealBadAngel
21:10 sokomine        the bot scrolls a lot, yes. especially with some people. but this is irc...there is an igno-command. it helps a lot
21:10 jojoa1997       why equal ranger quit
21:11 kaeza           have you implemented the portals yet?
21:11 RealBadAngel    no, working on the c++ version of the trees
21:11 kaeza           oh ok
21:12 VanessaE        that'll hold for now.
21:13 jin_xi          RealBadAngel: i'm really looking forward to try that out
21:13 kaeza           VanessaE: +1
21:13 marktraceur     VanessaE: What's up with that?
21:13 kaeza           who is this guy?
21:13 RealBadAngel    i got ready c++/LUA interface
21:13 iqualfragile    he is a bit annoying
21:13 VanessaE        I dunno, but his trolling is getting over the top
21:13 jin_xi          a 13 year old?
21:14 RealBadAngel    tommorow will code core gen code
21:14 VanessaE        and now he's claiming to have placed viruses on people's machines.
21:14 iqualfragile    oh dear
21:14 kaeza           RealBadAngel: looking forward to that
21:14 jin_xi          btw did you see c55 handle ragnars freakout? smooth
21:14 iqualfragile    a scriptkitty
21:14 RealBadAngel    it shall not take long since i had before to port some c++ methods to get LUA generator working
21:15 marktraceur     Lua.
21:15 sokomine        fine :-) hope the trees can be used soon
21:15 sokomine        i'm trying to find a way to get formspecs with npc
21:15 RealBadAngel    ive ported to lua matrix library and rewrotten some matrix4 functions
21:16 jin_xi          RealBadAngel: i really think it could be used to generate a lot more than plantlikes at some point
21:16 RealBadAngel    yes
21:16 sokomine        the whole formspec-part seems isolated enough...but i have no idea about the general data structure yet. the npc would need an inventory and access to the npc (lua-entity?) istead of a node would have to be handled
21:16 RealBadAngel    with some more commands
21:17 sokomine        nice :-)
21:17 RealBadAngel    i already liked idea to add command for fruits
21:17 RealBadAngel    like apples, coconuts etc
21:17 sokomine        i'd like real bushes as well. not the 2d-shapes but rather groups of leaves without tree
21:17 jin_xi          RealBadAngel: not only that, i think the actual "drawing" functions should be easily changeable
21:17 sokomine        sounds good :-)
21:18 * sokomine      gives realbadangle a few apples to hang on trees
21:18 RealBadAngel    sokomine,we already have bushes
21:18 RealBadAngel    by now they are called default trees
21:18 sokomine        oh? how do they look like?
21:19 RealBadAngel    http://realbadangel.pl/sorry.png
21:19 kaeza           my spider sense is detecting *Ragnar*
21:20 RealBadAngel    here, you can see some bushes in the middle
21:20 VanessaE        there, THAT will hold him for a while longer.
21:20 kaeza           my spider sense is no longer detecting *Ragnar*
21:20 VanessaE        beautiful trees, RealBadAngel
21:20 kaeza           thanks V
21:20 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: still using Lua?
21:22 sokomine        hard to tell; maybe starting a bit too high from the ground for bushes. the larger trees and those with diffrent leaves are gerat
21:22 RealBadAngel    c++ isnt done yet
21:22 VanessaE        ok
21:22 VanessaE        sokomine: well to be fair, the default trees look like bushes by comparison :D
21:22 RealBadAngel    easy change
21:22 sokomine        :-) yes, the new ones from rba are giants
21:23 RealBadAngel    make default tree trunk random 2-3 instead 4-5 and rename it to bush
21:23 sokomine        tree-houses might make sense with them
21:23 sokomine        oh, there ought to be "normal" old trees as well. not every tree has to be a special, impressive one. in nature, not all are extremly large as well
21:24 marktraceur     RealBadAngel: Did you wind up growing the trees one stage at a time?
21:24 kaeza           want to see bigger trees? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-10-25%2019%3A20%3A26.png
21:25 kaeza           It's from a borked old version of Nature Pack
21:25 VanessaE        hahah
21:25 RealBadAngel    marktraceur, i made them by now appearing at random stage
21:26 sokomine        very enthusiastic trees :-)
21:26 marktraceur     Hm. K.
21:26 VanessaE        kaeza: neko259 now knows about plantlife mod's growth height control, so maybe that'll be fixed soon
21:26 RealBadAngel    when given number of iterations as parameter it means its a max stage
21:26 VanessaE        sokomine: is that a tree on your screen or is your game just happy to see me? :-)
21:26 kaeza           VanessaE: I have removed nature pack
21:26 RealBadAngel    and randomly it can be lowered by 2
21:26 kaeza           also, It's on my old (0.4.3) world
21:27 RealBadAngel    so, callin the function can result in 3 different stages of growth
21:27 kaeza           FPS drops to ~5 when near the trees
21:27 Muadtralk       talking about RBA's trees?
21:27 kaeza           Muadtralk: no
21:27 Muadtralk       huh
21:27 RealBadAngel    that would be impossible
21:27 kaeza           Muadtralk:  https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-10-25%2019%3A20%3A26.png
21:28 RealBadAngel    generated trees are just bunch of nodes
21:28 kaeza           and hi Muadtralk!
21:28 kaeza           :P
21:28 Muadtralk       hello
21:28 Muadtralk       oh nature mod
21:28 RealBadAngel    hi Muadtralk
21:28 Muadtralk       infinite wood yes?
21:28 marktraceur     SeeBorg: Hello! Have you been around here before? I'm not sure I remember you :)
21:29 kaeza           Muadtralk: yup
21:30 VanessaE        kaeza:  look at the output spew from the client when it's at 5fps :-)
21:30 VanessaE        it'll be pouring out errors about being out of indexes.
21:30 kaeza           VanessaE: I deleted my old world long ago, kept the screen for fun
21:30 VanessaE        kaeza: oh ok.  well it's an error that'll be fixed in time,
21:31 jojoa1997       IRC and ingame where real debugging occurs
21:31 kaeza           VanessaE: here's another one: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-10-25%2019%3A20%3A16.png
21:31 kaeza           and sorry for spamming links
21:31 neko259         kaeza: I already fixed that long tree bug.
21:32 VanessaE        this is spamming?
21:32 VanessaE        kaeza: someone has 3dforniture! :-)
21:32 VanessaE        neko259: did you use my code? :-)
21:32 neko259         Not yet.
21:32 VanessaE        oh ok
21:32 neko259         I haven't done anything this week.
21:32 neko259         Got no time.
21:32 VanessaE        no prob
21:32 kaeza           VanessaE: yup
21:32 kaeza           y?
21:33 VanessaE        no reason, just noticed :-)
21:33 marktraceur     I'we asked three times this week, but is the entity spawning bug getting fixed?
21:33 RealBadAngel    kaeza, compare your screenshot to this: http://realbadangel.pl/under_the_tree.png ;)
21:33 jojoa1997       big trees for treehouse yay
21:33 kaeza           RealBadAngel: cool!
21:34 kaeza           s/cool/awesome/
21:34 Muadtralk       it should give you the same effect of fps drop as the infinite trees
21:34 VanessaE        kaeza: epic no? :-)
21:34 Muadtralk       but that cause lua right RBA?
21:34 VanessaE        Muadtralk: it's because the client runs out of graphics indexes
21:35 VanessaE        it spews errors at such a rate that it drags the client down into the mug
21:35 VanessaE        mud*
21:35 Muadtralk       :P
21:35 VanessaE        it's not the trees, it's something in the engine
21:35 Muadtralk       yes i know
21:35 kaeza           Do the trees use entities?
21:35 RealBadAngel    noo
21:35 kaeza           or nodeboxes?
21:35 RealBadAngel    neither
21:35 kaeza           models?
21:36 kaeza           what then?
21:36 RealBadAngel    nodes
21:36 jin_xi          well... sometimes if your rule is weird it generates many leafes which then die
21:36 marktraceur     Not a bad idea to use nodeboxes for, say, sticks on trees
21:36 sokomine        5fps? i know that only from minecraft. minetest can get slow on far view, but on normal view it works well (unless land is generated)
21:36 jin_xi          -> tons of saplings
21:36 kaeza           hmm
21:36 marktraceur     Or possibly branches (that give smaller logs, with only one plank each)
21:36 RealBadAngel    ive disabled sapling gen on the trees
21:36 jin_xi          but yea, i generated trees that makes rba's big ones look like bushes in comparison
21:37 RealBadAngel    hehe
21:37 kaeza           pic or it didn't happen
21:37 RealBadAngel    ive made a few mother of all trees too
21:37 jin_xi          still havent fully explored (read: abused) the treegen
21:38 RealBadAngel    starting on the ground ending above the clouds
21:38 jin_xi          kaeza: http://i.imgur.com/zGwhR.jpg
21:38 sokomine        ...and then you spawn in your new world on top of a tree and have to dig down for ages to reach the ground :-)
21:38 kaeza           jin_xi: fck!
21:38 kaeza           that's some big three!
21:38 kaeza           tree*
21:38 jin_xi          or this: http://i.imgur.com/dQclB.jpg
21:39 sokomine        and it gets slow when those trees are nearby? or is that only sometimes?
21:39 kaeza           they aren't generated on mapgen yet right?
21:39 jin_xi          only while generating
21:39 kaeza           I have to test this
21:39 sokomine        ok. no wonder - trees that size need some time to grow :-)
21:40 hmmmm           RealBadAngel, have you been porting it to C++?
21:40 sokomine        imagine one of them popping up right in front of you like trees do.....
21:40 kaeza           RealBadAngel: where's the trees mod?
21:41 jin_xi          actually it feels good to spawn them: you wait a bit, and boom, it starts to grow like an explosion
21:41 RealBadAngel    hmmmm, i shall be ready with c++ by tommorow
21:41 jin_xi          then you're in the dark ;)
21:41 hmmmm           ah okay
21:41 hmmmm           'cause I was gonna say
21:42 hmmmm           I would've done it if you didn't want to
21:42 kaeza           cool to make creepy forests :D
21:42 RealBadAngel    i just finished c++/lua interface
21:42 sokomine        some trees are specific to certain binomes, e.g. the jungletrees. it looks strange if they appear everywhere. i'm afraid that will have to be handled somehow as well. most of the ground is the same dirt and stone like everywhere...but the plantlife might be diffrent in diffrent regions
21:42 jin_xi          sokomine: don't worry its hugely flexible
21:42 sokomine        the inverse of tnt? :-)
21:43 RealBadAngel    hmmm, i will also add a few additions that folks proposed
21:43 VanessaE        sokomine: my plantlife mod can be used to create biomes of saplings also
21:43 sokomine        ah. that would be good. how?
21:43 RealBadAngel    as generating horizontal trunks, fruits etc
21:43 VanessaE        sokomine: https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/blob/master/API.txt
21:43 moltenbot       VanessaE's link: plantlife/API.txt at master ? VanessaE/plantlife ? GitHub
21:44 RealBadAngel    all customizable by axioms
21:44 sokomine        yes, fruits are important. it would be great to have e.g. some nuts. or other fruits (pears, prunes, cherries, ...)
21:44 VanessaE        sokomine: you call the spawn_on_surfaces() function with the right parameters, then let some other ABM actually grow them into trees
21:45 RealBadAngel    each tree will have a chance to spawn defined fruit
21:45 kaeza           YAY! then we can make fruit salad! (is that how it's called)
21:45 kaeza           ?
21:45 RealBadAngel    so if you will make a palm tree, just add coconut as a fruit
21:46 kaeza           fruit punch *
21:46 RealBadAngel    of course axiom should be made to spawn them in a sensible way
21:46 RealBadAngel    but its not really my case
21:46 * sokomine      collects all the fruits for winter :-)
21:46 RealBadAngel    axiom creator will have to take care of it
21:47 RealBadAngel    axioms and rules are simply a programming language
21:47 kaeza           and maybe sometime I can make my Harvest Moon inspired game
21:47 sokomine        vanessae: looks like it would require diffrent surfaces? i'm thinking more of binomes - areas with a certain plantlife but with the same old dirt as everywhere else
21:48 sokomine        can you give an axiom as an example for your trees? just the general idea you're thinking of
21:49 VanessaE        sokomine: well it's perlin-noise-based
21:49 VanessaE        and you can specify as many surfaces to spawn on as you want :-)
21:49 RealBadAngel    hmmmm, dont you think biomes shall be greater sized then?
21:50 sokomine        this perlin-noise seems popular with binome-mods, yes. havn't had a look at how that "noise" works internally
21:50 RealBadAngel    those trees changes in game scale once and for all
21:50 sokomine        there ought to be not too many extremly large trees :-)
21:51 RealBadAngel    one feel small again walkin under those trees
21:51 VanessaE        yes :-)
21:52 RealBadAngel    btw for those who havent tried the lua version: http://realbadangel.pl/trees.zip
21:52 RealBadAngel    unpack, pick 5 spawn sticks from creative and play in a new world
21:53 RealBadAngel    i suggest then turn off fly mode
21:53 RealBadAngel    and just walk in spawned forest
21:54 Zephyrus1497    hi everyone
21:55 sokomine        oh. spawn sticks? how are they named?
21:55 RealBadAngel    treegen:
21:55 RealBadAngel    and tree name
21:55 RealBadAngel    use creative to find them
21:55 RealBadAngel    or UI
21:56 hmmmm           hmm?
21:56 RealBadAngel    hmmm: hmm what?
21:56 hmmmm           what did you mean by your last message directed toward me
21:56 RealBadAngel    ah, the size
21:57 hmmmm           well the whole thing will be made up of biomes
21:57 RealBadAngel    with bigger trees biomes could be greater
21:57 hmmmm           well here is what i'm thinking of
21:57 hmmmm           each biome gets a "decorationdef"
21:57 hmmmm           the decorationdef defines which sort of decoration it's going to be
21:58 hmmmm           which can be set to generic tree, L-system tree, rocks, or custom (made in lua)
21:58 hmmmm           or maybe a combination of those
21:58 hmmmm           and then if L-system tree is specified, then you'll be able to give the "parameters" for creating them (in this case it'll be the axioms)
21:58 hmmmm           sound good?
21:58 RealBadAngel    yes
21:59 hmmmm           yea
21:59 sokomine        it's possible to see the bark of the tree in the short time until it's fully grown :_)
21:59 RealBadAngel    wait, lookin for a name
21:59 sokomine        really huge and dark!
22:00 hmmmm           for now, you just work on the treegen stuff... when it comes time to merge my stuff I'll add in the treegen things
22:00 RealBadAngel    i just imagined specific biome
22:00 RealBadAngel    giant sequoia wood biome
22:00 sokomine        that would be something
22:01 RealBadAngel    dark, green and gigantic trees
22:01 RealBadAngel    with trunks so close you can build whole city around them
22:01 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: respawn on my server already :-)
22:02 VanessaE        dead bodies lying around is..unattractive :-)
22:02 RealBadAngel    like ewoks in starwars :)
22:02 RealBadAngel    oh, you killed me? :P
22:04 RealBadAngel    hmmmm, i got lots of ideas how to improve the treegen already
22:05 RealBadAngel    its gonna be a very universal tool
22:06 RealBadAngel    i will of course make api for it public
22:06 RealBadAngel    let people play with it
22:06 jin_xi          procedural textures would be awesome too
22:06 RealBadAngel    then we could pick the best projects to include in bioms
22:07 RealBadAngel    this way we could have very specific and chosen trees for each biome
22:07 jin_xi          yes, there needs to be a thread collecting good treegen rules
22:08 RealBadAngel    yup
22:08 RealBadAngel    i will write a guide on how to use it
22:08 jin_xi          i never tried lsystem until yours but i like the feel of making and changing those rules
22:08 RealBadAngel    and then lets the community create the best trees ever seen
22:10 RealBadAngel    jin_xi one of yours is pretty close to the palm tree
22:10 kizeren         So....just got back....Are you trying to create seperate biomes in a 1 map/world?
22:10 RealBadAngel    but needs some commands not done yet
22:10 RealBadAngel    like changing the angle, twistin branches
22:11 RealBadAngel    and also pure leaves branches
22:11 RealBadAngel    without trunks
22:11 jin_xi          i really like the voxels for huge trees, but for smaller ones i wish nodeboxes were fully roll/yaw/pitch-able
22:13 Uberi           oriented nodeboxes?
22:14 RealBadAngel    ok, have to go, see ya later
22:14 Uberi           o/
22:14 VanessaE        hey hey Uberi.
22:14 jin_xi          see ya
22:15 VanessaE        can models be applied to nodes?
22:15 Uberi           hey VanessaE
22:15 Uberi           not at the moment, it seems
22:15 jin_xi          VanessaE: no, i dont think so
22:15 Uberi           but that would probably slow things down with all the mesh skinning recalculations
22:16 VanessaE        well one could always build trees out of a metric assload of entities :D
22:17 Uberi           :O
22:17 VanessaE        I didn't say it would be *efficient*
22:17 * marktraceur   welcomes KittenGNU from the LibrePlanet community :)
22:19 * KittenGNU     shakes marktraceur  's hand and makes a big grin
22:19 VanessaE        hi KittenGNU
22:19 KittenGNU       Why thank you :3
22:19 KittenGNU       Hi
22:19 Uberi           o/ KittenGNU
22:20 KittenGNU       Uberi: Sorry for sounding silly, but what does "o/" refer to? XD
22:20 Uberi           look at it very carefully
22:21 Uberi           o is a head, and / is an arm :P
22:21 sokomine        i imagine the trees some players would like most would be trees without leaves, standing next to each other without a node between them, easy to chop down...poor trees are treated bad sometimes on tree-farms
22:21 KittenGNU       Uberi: Ah... :| That was silly of me not to notice.
22:22 Uberi           yeah I should make a mod where the trees have formed a union and go on strike if you don't give them the benefits they're demanding
22:22 KittenGNU       Uberi: :D Do so
22:22 VanessaE        haha
22:22 KittenGNU       "trees of the world, unite!"
22:22 marktraceur     Uberi: Luckily, it will take them ages to decide to strike--they're never hasty
22:22 * VanessaE      grabs a big bottle of glue...someone want a few trees to "unite"? :-)
22:23 Uberi           "I am the Lorax, and I speak for the trees"
22:23 Uberi           "for trees have no tongues"
22:24 sokomine        yes, here, please! digged up part of a trunk...now the crown floats :_)
22:24 * sokomine      nods to uberi
22:25 Uberi           if you punch a tree too hard, the trunk will break and the Lorax will come out of it
22:25 Uberi           the Lorax does 5 hearts of damage per hit and 1 heart per second aftereffect for 5 seconds
22:25 sokomine        that sounds so...fight-like
22:26 sokomine        maybe more indirect :-) wood that after digging turns out to be too weak for wooden planks
22:27 Uberi           the trees have eyes
22:27 Uberi           they stare at you, all day, all night
22:27 Uberi           through your windows, through your roofs
22:27 Uberi           they drop saplings closer and closer to you while you're not watching
22:28 Uberi           if you don't watch out, you'll be eaten alive by the trees!
22:28 marktraceur     Uberi: I made that happen once
22:29 marktraceur     Uberi: The first saplings implementation would drop saplings that auto-planted
22:29 Uberi           a mod?
22:29 Uberi           oh neat
22:29 marktraceur     Back in 0.3.x
22:29 Uberi           do the trees actively try to eat you?
22:29 marktraceur     No, but if you don't pay attention, they get right out of hand
22:29 Uberi           I should make a Super Hostile game mode
22:30 sokomine        no...even worse :-) the linger in the grass...and if you approach...plop! ran into a tree again
22:30 Uberi           everything tries to kill you
22:30 marktraceur     Especially since some of the leaves were out of the radius I was checking....so the edges would decay and re-plant....
22:30 Uberi           :O
22:30 sokomine        :-)
22:31 marktraceur     Boy that was a long time ago
22:33 * Uberi         is writing an RD parser for ucScript
22:34 Uberi           soon Mesecons microcontrollers will support nested If statements, escape characters in strings, and generally be more stable
22:35 VanessaE        \o/
22:36 KittenGNU       The download link on the Wiki is broken btw.
22:38 Uberi           Muadtralk: !
22:39 Muadtralk       !
22:39 marktraceur     KittenGNU: Which one?
22:39 Muadtralk       Uberi !
22:39 KittenGNU       marktraceur: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki - under resources.
22:40 moltenbot       KittenGNU's link: Minetest Wiki
22:40 marktraceur     Sure as hell is, thanks
22:40 marktraceur     Gorram it. View source.
22:41 * marktraceur   hates not benig able to edit a wiki
22:41 Muadtralk       hmmm?
22:41 Muadtralk       you cant edit wiki's?
22:41 Uberi           wait you can't edit that wiki?
22:41 marktraceur     Muadtralk: Just the minetest one
22:42 marktraceur     Just the main page
22:42 Uberi           ah good
22:42 Muadtralk       i thought that one was editable
22:42 marktraceur     But Calinou's an admin, whenever he comes around
22:42 Muadtralk       I once changed things on it.....
22:42 Muadtralk       must have been a fluke
22:43 M13             hello
22:44 * KittenGNU     waves to M13
22:44 * M13           waves back to KittenGNU
22:44 M13             VanessaE
22:44 Uberi           hey M13
22:45 M13             hey, I have a New Website?
22:45 Uberi           got a link?
22:45 M13             http://m13.myftp.biz
22:45 moltenbot       M13's link: Madchicken13's Site (Open source Projects / Free Website Hosting)
22:45 M13             lol, cool
22:45 VanessaE        coo..
22:45 M13             thats the title
22:45 VanessaE        cool.
22:46 M13             Its my first site
22:46 Uberi           M13: FYI, typo on line 2: s/coarse/course
22:46 M13             oops
22:46 M13             Ill fix
22:47 M13             VanessaE
22:47 M13             do you have a website?\
22:48 VanessaE        I have my own website, but it is not for the server.
22:49 kaeza           back
22:49 kaeza           VanessaE: this may interest you for your HDX pack http://opengameart.org/
22:49 moltenbot       kaeza's link: OpenGameArt.org
22:52 * KittenGNU     bookmarks both links
22:56 M13             madchicken13.weebly.com
22:56 M13             Ill use this for my blog and forum
22:57 VanessaE        kaeza: I'll look at it later, but thanks
22:57 M13             g2g
23:50 cy1             Anyone on any servers?
23:50 jordan4ibanez   yea boi
23:50 cy1             liek which
23:50 jordan4ibanez   Guess
23:50 cy1             oldcoder's
23:51 cy1             nope
23:51 kaeza           hi cy1
23:51 kaeza           hi again jordan4ibanez
23:51 cy1             mine!
23:51 cy1             kaeza: yo
23:52 cy1             ...nope
23:52 cy1             jordan4ibanez: which one??
23:52 jordan4ibanez   Wiener
23:53 jordan4ibanez   Recdrab
23:53 cy1             eww redcrab
23:53 jordan4ibanez   hi kazea
23:55 grondilu        for some reason sneaking does not work (I'm using 0.4.4)
23:55 kaeza1          hello grondilu
23:55 grondilu        yet the key is reckognized since I can climb down ladders
23:55 kaeza1          that's odd
23:56 celeron55       oh, the site doesn't accept links without .php and some places link to those
23:56 celeron55       shit 8)
23:56 kaeza1          celeron55: ?
23:58 celeron55       now they work
23:58 celeron55       re. marktraceur/KittenGNU discussion about http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki 's link to http://minetest.net/download
23:58 moltenbot       celeron55's link: Minetest Wiki