Time Nick Message 00:05 OldCoder VanessaE, j 00:05 OldCoder VanessaE, k * 00:06 kaeza1 typo on a single letter word ... 00:06 kaeza1 :/ 00:07 cy1 minetest should use a content hash for content. that way you don't download the same texture twice, even from different worlds? 00:07 kaeza1 cy1: it does 00:07 cy1 good 00:08 kaeza1 It would be better if the client checked locally if the same mods are installed in the client to avoid a lot of DL'ing twice 00:08 cy1 minetest is at 74% CPU so nothing getting killed here. 00:08 cy1 servers can have custom textures for mods though. 00:09 kaeza1 hash a tex locally and remotely. if they differ, DL. It's simple I guess 00:09 cy1 yeah, content hashes are great... 00:09 cy1 hash trees are better for large files 00:09 kaeza1 I quit 00:10 kaeza1 still at 0% media 00:10 cy1 sure, no problem 00:10 kaeza1 sorry 00:10 cy1 minetest likes to hang at 0% every startup for me... but not more than like 30s 00:10 kaeza1 you don't have ambience do you? 00:10 cy1 hooo no 00:10 cy1 might be Frontier screwing w/ it, sending RST packets or somethin 00:11 kaeza1 hmmm... mesecons+technic+flowers are a lot of textures 00:11 cy1 yeah... 00:11 cy1 but then it should go like 1% 2% etc 00:14 cy1 My upload isn't *that* bad :p 00:15 kaeza1 but my download is crappy at times 00:15 kaeza1 I have a 3G modem :( 00:15 VanessaE flowers is obsete. 00:15 VanessaE obsolete. 00:15 VanessaE get plantlife :-) 00:15 kaeza1 right 00:16 kaeza1 and it also lags as hell (sorry V) 00:16 VanessaE works fine for me 00:16 kaeza1 the old flowers I mean 00:16 VanessaE ah 00:16 VanessaE plantlife is better. 00:16 kaeza1 much better 00:16 kaeza1 :) 00:16 kaeza1 I'd still like the poison ivy to damage punchers though 00:17 KikaRz PilzAdam 00:17 KikaRz you there? 00:17 VanessaE eventually I will add that, kaeza1 00:17 OldCoder kaeza1, are you able to provide a download link? 00:17 OldCoder Oh! 00:17 OldCoder You did 00:17 kaeza1 OldCoder: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/mods/Kaeza-irc-0.1.2-Linux-i686.tar.gz 00:17 OldCoder Yes 00:18 OldCoder Installing 00:18 kaeza1 OldCoder: I think I will rewrite the IRC protocol stuff 00:18 OldCoder k 00:18 kaeza1 cy1: pointed that it's a bit messy 00:19 kaeza1 but that will be left for later 00:19 kaeza1 s/:// 00:19 OldCoder Testing in a minute 00:20 kaeza1 VanessaE: as you said somewhere, it's just a nuisance ATM 00:20 OldCoder kaeza1, So basically, I just comment out the first two settings and specify a channel in the third? 00:20 VanessaE *nod* 00:20 OldCoder Plus a bot nick 00:21 kaeza1 yup 00:22 kaeza1 OldCoder: you may also want to change mt_irc.connect_on_{load|join} 00:22 OldCoder k 00:23 OldCoder libluasocket.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 00:23 OldCoder kaeza1, ^ 00:23 OldCoder Wait 00:23 kaeza1 you're using AMD64? 00:23 OldCoder let me build this from source 00:23 kaeza1 k 00:23 OldCoder We did that before 00:23 OldCoder Hang on 00:24 OldCoder cmake . ? 00:24 kaeza1 OldCoder: etc/zipmod.sh 00:24 OldCoder make worked 00:24 OldCoder make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. 00:24 OldCoder zipmake did that 00:24 kaeza1 hmmm 00:25 OldCoder zipmod * 00:25 kaeza1 It does a native build and then a Linux->MinGW32 build 00:25 kaeza1 it may have borked on the 2nd 00:25 OldCoder cmake . 00:25 OldCoder make 00:25 OldCoder worked 00:25 kaeza1 just ignore that 00:25 OldCoder is that enough? 00:25 kaeza1 yup 00:26 OldCoder Package how? 00:26 kaeza1 make pack_mod 00:26 OldCoder worked 00:26 OldCoder Where is output? 00:26 kaeza1 it should create an `irc' dir 00:26 OldCoder Got it ty 00:27 kaeza1 np 00:27 kaeza1 ty for testing it :) 00:27 OldCoder proceeding 00:27 kizeren downloaded..... 00:28 kizeren just drop in mods folder and change config.lua? 00:28 OldCoder Yes 00:28 kaeza1 kizeren: yup 00:28 OldCoder -- mt_irc.server = nil; 00:28 OldCoder Comment out? 00:28 kaeza1 or leave at nil 00:28 kaeza1 as long as Lua think it's "false" it uses the default 00:29 OldCoder What is this about single connection? 00:29 kaeza1 in Lua "nil" and "false" evaluate to false 00:29 OldCoder What is this about single connection? 00:29 kaeza1 what? 00:29 kaeza1 oh 00:29 OldCoder How is that turned off or on 00:29 kaeza1 That is not currently implemented 00:29 OldCoder k 00:29 kaeza1 I should fix it 00:30 kaeza1 it's always single connection for now 00:30 kaeza1 so you always talk through the "bot" 00:30 OldCoder k 00:31 kizeren looking at this. it seems I don't have to chagne anything really. 00:31 OldCoder kaeza1, started but bot did not join channel 00:31 kizeren looks like you have defaults. 00:31 kaeza1 OldCoder: have you tried "/irc_connect" 00:31 kaeza1 ? 00:31 OldCoder Where? 00:31 OldCoder In the game? 00:31 kaeza1 yes 00:32 OldCoder I changed the config.lua 00:32 OldCoder to be default connect on mod load 00:32 kaeza1 hmmm 00:32 OldCoder Should that work? 00:32 OldCoder Plus 00:32 OldCoder needs to be that way 00:32 OldCoder because the worlds often restart 00:32 kaeza1 seems I have not tested this thoroughly 00:32 OldCoder and I have about 20 of them 00:32 OldCoder Trying manual 00:33 kizeren OldCoder, not to through you off topioc. Your server on 30000, is there anyway to get the texture pack and ambience you are using? 00:33 OldCoder Of course 00:33 kaeza1 OldCoder: wait until it finishes getting the MOTD 00:33 OldCoder All the pieces 00:33 kizeren Don't worry about it now. 00:34 kaeza1 That's why I want a rewrite 00:34 OldCoder kaeza1, It says already connected to IRC 00:34 OldCoder But there is no bot in the channel 00:34 kizeren I will catch up another time and grab the textures from ya. 00:34 kaeza1 see if your bot is on the channel 00:34 kaeza1 oh 00:34 kaeza1 hmmm 00:35 OldCoder Thousands of SEND QUIT messages 00:35 OldCoder Thousands more 00:35 OldCoder Hard loop 00:35 OldCoder Ouch :-) 00:35 kizeren 13:12:03: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...etest-ab06fca/bin/../games/minetest/mods/irc/irc.lua:964: attempt to index upvalue 'irc_sock' (a nil$ 00:35 kaeza1 ow 00:35 kaeza1 hmmm 00:35 OldCoder Is my copy sending you debug info? 00:35 kaeza1 I better rewrite this IRC thing better soon 00:36 kaeza1 OldCoder: is mt_irc.debug enabled? 00:36 kaeza1 you should see the IRC comm on your term 00:36 OldCoder As I said 00:36 OldCoder thousands of error messages 00:37 kaeza1 hmm 00:37 OldCoder SEND: QUIT :Closing. 00:37 OldCoder RECV: :brooks.freenode.net 372 mtveritas :- 00:37 OldCoder SEND: QUIT :Closing. 00:37 OldCoder RECV: :brooks.freenode.net 372 mtveritas :- You're using freenode, a servi 00:37 OldCoder ce of Peer-Directed Projects 00:37 OldCoder SEND: QUIT :Closing. 00:37 OldCoder RECV: :brooks.freenode.net 372 mtveritas :- Center Ltd (http://freenode.ne 00:37 OldCoder t/pdpc.shtml). 00:37 OldCoder SEND: QUIT :Closing. 00:37 OldCoder RECV: :brooks.freenode.net 372 mtveritas :- 00:37 KikaRz stop pasting! 00:37 KikaRz stop pasting! 00:37 KikaRz use pastebin 00:37 OldCoder [[1;30mSEND: QUIT :Closing.[[0m 00:37 OldCoder About 2,000 of those 00:37 OldCoder KikaRz, valid point 00:38 OldCoder Limit of about 7 lines is probably O.K. 00:38 jordan4ibanez http://completelyseriouscomics.com/?p=270 00:38 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Completely Serious Comics - Animal Power 00:39 kaeza1 jordan4ibanez: lol 00:39 kizeren kaeza1 should the chanel and ports be in quotes or not quotes? 00:40 jordan4ibanez http://completelyseriouscomics.com/?p=282 00:40 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Completely Serious Comics - Ghost Butt Comics 00:40 kaeza1 kizeren: where? 00:41 kaeza1 in config.lua of course 00:41 OldCoder VanessaE, has vanessa_game changed? or world? or both? 00:41 VanessaE both 00:41 kizeren config.lua 00:42 kizeren kaeza1 think I am forgetting something. 00:42 kizeren http://pastebin.com/LBYawUcQ 00:42 moltenbot kizeren's link: [HomeDecor] Loaded! Pipeworks loaded! [Plantlife] Loaded (enabled...er...nothi - Pastebin.com 00:43 VanessaE ignore it. that's a bug and your copy is outdated ;-) 00:43 kaeza1 kizeren: build from sources please 00:44 kizeren I was looking in the link you posted but no source. 00:44 kizeren or my brain is dieing..... 00:45 kaeza1 kizeren: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc 00:45 moltenbot kaeza1's link: kaeza/minetest-irc ? GitHub 00:46 kaeza1 It seems OldCoder is having the same problem as before 00:47 kizeren Same kaeza1 00:47 kizeren same error I should say 00:48 kaeza1 OC seems to get Quit messages as soon as he connects 00:49 kizeren [[1;30mSEND: QUIT :Closing.[[0m 00:49 kizeren I am seeing this too then I get that error about a socket. 00:49 kaeza1 hmmm 00:50 VanessaE is there a way to forcibly slow down a cart? 00:50 VanessaE aside from going up a hill I mean 00:51 kaeza1 kizeren: it seems my check for OK connection is not enough. The mod fails to connect one way or the other and it reports success anyways 00:53 kizeren why is yours working but not ours though? 00:54 kaeza1 hmm 00:54 kaeza1 It may be the sockets implementation on your system 00:54 kaeza1 LuaIRC checks for it's connection 00:55 kaeza1 let me check this 00:55 kizeren ArchLinux 00:55 kizeren If it helps. 00:56 kaeza1 http://pastebin.com/HeQrXqmF 00:56 moltenbot kaeza1's link: [Lua] function send(command, ...) if not serverinfo.connected and not serverinfo. - Pastebin.com 00:56 kaeza1 apparently, it borks on line 14 of that paste 00:56 kaeza1 but according to line 2, it's OK 00:57 kaeza1 I may have to reqrite that stuff myself 00:57 kaeza1 rewrite* 00:58 kaeza1 hello NekoGloop :3 00:58 NekoGloop Meow 00:58 kaeza1 good game 'So you wanted to play god' 00:59 kaeza1 a bit short though 00:59 kizeren Tried running as root to see if it was an account issue but still same error. 01:00 NekoGloop kaeza1: I made it because i was bored. 01:00 kaeza1 NekoGloop: then you should get bored more often :P 01:01 kaeza1 kizeren: I'm looking into it 01:05 kizeren Oooo think it worked! 01:06 kaeza1 kizeren: yes? 01:06 kizeren Give me a moment. 01:07 kizeren #minetest-irc-testing 01:12 kaeza1 RealBadAngel you there? 01:13 VanessaE he's gone to bed 01:13 VanessaE back in several hours, work comes after he wakes up. 01:14 * NekoGloop punts a kitten at VanessaE for the heck of it 01:15 * VanessaE catches the kitten and snuggles with it 01:15 VanessaE evening Neko. 01:15 NekoGloop Why does every fucking minecraft server have to have that damn faction plugin. 01:16 NekoGloop I just wanna play some damn multiplayer survival. 01:16 VanessaE I don't have factions on my server, and that's to the chagrin of someone who already asked for it 01:16 NekoGloop >minecraft 01:16 VanessaE yes I know. 01:16 VanessaE and the same thing has already long since come to minetest. 01:16 NekoGloop Well it makes it so you have to claim land 01:17 NekoGloop Guess what? All the land within about ~500 blocks from spawn is claimed. On every goddamn server. 01:17 VanessaE heh 01:18 NekoGloop And there's a safe zone near spawn. 01:18 NekoGloop There's also people in full diamond with diamond swords just WAITING for you to step outside. 01:19 OldCoder NekoGloop, Hi! 01:20 VanessaE fuck all of that. 01:20 VanessaE I'd rather play peacefully. 01:20 VanessaE if I want OpenArena, I'll fucking play OpenArena. 01:20 NekoGloop ikr. 01:20 NekoGloop so apparently you cant play smp minecraft. At all. 01:21 cy1 NekoGloop: sounds like protect blocks to me :/ 01:21 kaeza1 NekoGloop: just ditch MC and use MT :) 01:21 NekoGloop cy1: Nope. More like node_protection but you dont need an op to claim something. 01:23 cy1 NekoGloop: so like protect blocks, without the ugly blocks in place 01:23 NekoGloop cy1: And no need to craft anything either. 01:26 mauvebic split maps in north and south, north lands can be claimed, south cant? 01:26 NekoGloop If only 01:30 kaeza1 maybe calculate some "level" based on the items the player has equipped. If the difference between players is > some value, you disable the damage. That way 13375 cannot harm n0085 01:31 kaeza1 just throwing ideas 01:48 cy1 NekoGloop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtJzABifWBw 01:48 cy1 That'll either make you feel better, or enraged. 01:49 kaeza1 hello KrayonWork 01:50 KrayonWork kaeza1: Hi. 01:52 kaeza1 somebody please tell me thisis either a mannequin or an inflatable doll: http://cheezburger.com/6875214336 01:52 moltenbot kaeza1's link: Barbie's Body Looks Terrifying - Cheezburger 01:52 kaeza1 I'm shocked at the stupid things people do to their body 01:55 cy1 kaeza1: only solution is to expose people to as many realistic naked women as possible and hope it sticks 01:55 VanessaE good grief. 01:57 * cy1 reinstates co-ed locker rooms mua ha ha 01:58 kaeza1 cy1: agreed 01:58 kaeza1 for *ahem* educative purposes that is 02:00 cy1 oh it'd be lots of fun for the first week, but then when people start getting *used* to it....... 02:16 OldCoder kaeza1, If you have suggestions this week let me know 02:16 kaeza1 about? 02:16 kaeza1 OldCoder: I seem to have fixed the autoconnect bug 02:17 OldCoder kaeza1, but the basic problem? 02:17 OldCoder Do you mean that? 02:17 OldCoder Or another issue? 02:18 kaeza1 well, it seems kizeren had the same problem as you 02:18 OldCoder And? 02:18 kaeza1 the Quit:Excess flood thing 02:18 kaeza1 but it works for him now 02:19 kaeza1 kizeren you there? 02:19 kizeren yes 02:19 kaeza1 you don't have the Quit:excess flood anymore do you? 02:19 OldCoder Are all the send:quits related? 02:20 OldCoder There are 1000s of them 02:20 kaeza1 OldCoder: they may be 02:20 OldCoder Pushed yet? 02:20 kaeza1 yep 02:20 OldCoder Fine 02:20 OldCoder will test in a few minutes ty 02:20 kaeza1 no ty 02:20 OldCoder ? 02:20 kizeren Now with autoconnect on I am still getting the excessive flooding. But going to pull the git again and see what happens. 02:21 * OldCoder will wait 02:21 kaeza1 maybe it has something to do with connecting and joining so fast? 02:22 OldCoder 02:22:32: ERROR[main]: /opt/minetest044/share/minetest/games/vanessa_game/mods/minetest-hatches/hatches/init.lua: 02:22 OldCoder 02:22:32: ERROR[main]: .../vanessa_game/mods/minetest-hatches/hatches/init.lua:83: attempt to index global 'mesecon' (a nil value) 02:22 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ 02:22 kaeza1 I mean, you establish the connection and join the channel at about the same time 02:24 kaeza1 hmmm... no that's not it 02:25 kizeren Still doing it. 02:25 kizeren even with autojoin off and autoconnect on 02:28 VanessaE OldCoder: strange, that file is exactly the game I run on my server. 02:28 OldCoder I believe you 02:28 VanessaE you sure you launched the world against my game? 02:28 OldCoder Double checking 02:28 OldCoder Pretty sure but I will verify 02:30 OldCoder Looks like it 02:30 OldCoder Will need to debug this week 02:33 VanessaE hrm 02:35 OldCoder Triple checking now 02:36 kizeren kaeza1 is is possible the irc bot is trying to close the connection because it knows no one is connecting? So it keeps sending the SEND: QUIT Closing: 02:36 VanessaE OldCoder: maybe you need to entirely wipe out the vanessa_game folder and re-extract? 02:36 VanessaE Might be a redundant file or two 02:36 OldCoder vanessa I just did that. mods/minetest-hatches/hatches/init.lua fails due to mesecons. 02:37 VanessaE lemme re-zip then. 02:37 kaeza1 kizeren: I'm reading an article about flood prevention 02:37 VanessaE maybe I screwed it up 02:37 OldCoder k 02:37 kaeza1 but lemme check anyways what you say 02:38 VanessaE uploading... 02:42 kizeren kaeza1 think I just fixed it. 02:42 kizeren yes I did. 02:42 kaeza1 kizeren: how? 02:42 kizeren Let me do about another minute of testing before I commit to the previous statment :P 02:42 kaeza1 k 02:44 VanessaE OldCoder: Upload complete. You may download when ready. 02:44 OldCoder k 02:44 VanessaE :-) 02:44 OldCoder sure 02:44 VanessaE I double-checked that it's zip'ing the right files and putting them at the right URL 02:44 OldCoder k 02:44 OldCoder D/Lg 02:44 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/vanessa_game.zip 02:44 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/My_World_server.zip 02:44 OldCoder Yep 02:45 NekoGloop Hello? Are you still there? 02:45 kizeren kaeza1 fixed the flooding. but now bot won't connect to channel but i can pm back and forth.. 02:46 kizeren Line 76 of init.lua 02:46 kaeza1 ... 02:46 kaeza1 :P 02:47 kizeren I comment out 76-78 02:47 kaeza1 kizeren: checking 02:47 kizeren But since it doesn't detect player joining..... 02:47 kizeren And I am not familiar enough with lua to properly fix it. 02:47 OldCoder VanessaE, I even renamed the folder to foo_game to avoid ambiguity 02:47 OldCoder 02:47:26: ERROR[main]: ...ames/foo_game/mods/minetest-hatches/hatches/init.lua:83: attempt to index global 'mesecon' (a nil value) 02:47 kaeza1 make a pull request 02:47 VanessaE I don't understand why it's breaking for you 02:48 OldCoder is mesecon correct? 02:48 kaeza1 kizeren: make a pull request 02:48 VanessaE no 02:48 VanessaE it should be minetest-mod-mesecons 02:48 OldCoder Then check the file 02:48 OldCoder How is it working for you? 02:48 kizeren kaeza1 sorry......not familiar with git either :) 02:48 NekoGloop Freeman's voice is so awesome that it comes through even silence. 02:48 VanessaE I'm running that game on my server right now, have been for hours 02:49 OldCoder I will debug further 02:49 OldCoder davidpace, Hello 02:49 davidpace Hello OldCoder 02:49 kaeza1 hello davidpace 02:49 VanessaE you sure you're not overwriting anything in the vanessa_game folder after extracting? 02:49 davidpace Hello kaesa1 02:49 OldCoder VanessaE, 100% 02:49 OldCoder 200% 02:49 OldCoder maybe 500% 02:49 davidpace *kaeza1 02:49 VanessaE wtf then o.O 02:49 * VanessaE is confused. 02:49 OldCoder It is fine 02:49 kaeza1 kizeren: I am too 02:49 OldCoder I will examine this week 02:50 kizeren how to "make a pull request" ? 02:51 kaeza back 02:51 kaeza modem died :( 02:51 VanessaE oh THAT's a surprise... 02:51 VanessaE not. 02:51 VanessaE :-) 02:52 kaeza :P 02:52 kaeza also: http://xkcd.com/487/ 02:53 VanessaE OldCoder: pastebin ls vanessa_game/mods 02:53 VanessaE I wanna see what's coming out of the zip 02:53 kizeren kaeza i think you have to add me to the project for me to do a pull request on github ?? 02:53 kaeza kizeren: I don't think so 02:53 kaeza sfan5 did one 02:53 VanessaE kizeren: fork the project, make your changes, upload your changes to your fork, then use the github website to place your pull request 02:54 VanessaE it's easy once you've done it once or twice 02:54 kaeza there I go :) 02:54 kizeren Thank you VanessaE 02:54 OldCoder VanessaE, all right 02:55 OldCoder http://minetest.org/temp.txt 02:55 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ 02:56 VanessaE OldCoder: that's what I have here. 02:56 * NekoGloop punts a kitten at kaeza 02:57 OldCoder VanessaE, all right 02:57 OldCoder Assume mods match 02:57 OldCoder what produces that error? 02:57 kizeren hope i did that properly. kaeza sent pull 02:57 VanessaE OldCoder: what proceedure are you doing when you update your copy? 02:57 OldCoder wget 02:57 OldCoder unzip 02:57 OldCoder mv 02:57 OldCoder Done 02:58 OldCoder Plus a chown 02:58 VanessaE but you nuke the contents of the original folder first right? 02:58 OldCoder Yes 02:58 OldCoder One more time 02:58 * OldCoder proceeds 02:58 kaeza kizeren: checking 02:58 VanessaE and you start my world against that game? 02:58 OldCoder That is why I rename to foo_game 02:58 OldCoder There is no foo_game 02:59 OldCoder So this proves correct start 02:59 VanessaE strange and confusing 02:59 OldCoder Wait 02:59 OldCoder wget http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/vanessa_game.zip 02:59 OldCoder wget in progress 02:59 kizeren So a pull/fork is how GIT keeps track of what is going on in a project? Sorry I am so use to the old CVS ways.... 03:00 VanessaE kizeren: more or less yeah 03:00 VanessaE there's more to it but that's a simple way of looking at it. 03:00 * NekoGloop kicks a kitten 03:00 kizeren Just didn't want to go screwing up someones elses project like you could on CVS... 03:00 VanessaE naw, you can't do that 03:01 OldCoder VanessaE, unzip -q vanessa_game.zip 03:01 VanessaE the project owner has to give you push access to their master copy in order for that to be a risk 03:01 OldCoder VanessaE, chown -R games.users vanessa_game 03:01 kizeren VanessaE: I visited your server few days ago. Looks like rollercoaster heaven. 03:01 kaeza kizeren: checked and merged 03:01 VanessaE kizeren: if Pilzadam's carts worked better it would be :-) 03:01 OldCoder VanessaE, rm -fr /opt/minetest044/share/minetest/games/foo_game 03:02 OldCoder VanessaE, mv vanessa_game /opt/minetest044/share/minetest/games/foo_game 03:02 kizeren on on cli....CVS you could do an "update" does git have something similar or is it easier to just clone again? 03:02 VanessaE kizeren: git pull 03:03 OldCoder VanessaE, $SERVEREXE --port 30017 --gameid foo_game --config $CONFXDIR/$NAME.conf --world $WORLDDIR/$NAME 03:03 OldCoder Done 03:03 kaeza OldCoder: test the IRC whenever you can 03:03 OldCoder kaeza, k 03:03 kaeza there's no hurry 03:03 * VanessaE sings... 03:03 VanessaE Ho ho fucking ho, what a crock of shit 03:03 VanessaE We all work for Santa Claus, we've had enough, we quit 03:03 VanessaE Cause we do all the fucking work while he stars in the show 03:04 kizeren Thanks again. 03:04 VanessaE Stick ya christmas up your arse, ho ho fucking ho 03:04 VanessaE I'm Santa Claus' wife, I know what he's really like 03:04 VanessaE Sneaking into them little kids rooms he's a fucking pedophile. 03:04 VanessaE A devious old drunk and I'm married to the cunt. 03:04 VanessaE So stick ya christmas your arse, ho ho fucking ho. 03:04 VanessaE lol 03:04 VanessaE ok I'll stop now :-) 03:04 kaeza lol 03:05 VanessaE OldCoder: what are the values in those variables at the time you execute that command? 03:05 OldCoder om 03:05 VanessaE maybe your worldpath is wrong? 03:05 davidpace VaessaE, that was very entertaining 03:05 OldCoder Nope 03:05 OldCoder om 03:05 VanessaE I'm utterly confused 03:05 VanessaE davidpace: the whole thing: http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Ho-Ho-Fucking-Ho-lyrics-Monty-Python/860B206F0990F512482570D6001208A1 03:05 VanessaE and it ain't monty python but who it really is, i dunno 03:06 davidpace Haha 03:06 OldCoder /opt/minetest044/bin/minetestserver --port 30017 --gameid foo_game --config /opt/minetest044/share/minetest/vanessa.conf --world /opt/minetest044/share/minetest/worlds/vanessa 03:06 kaeza Monty Python? so oldschool 03:06 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ 03:07 VanessaE OldCoder: and your default game folder is set so that foo_game can be found? 03:07 VanessaE I'm grasping at straws here 03:07 OldCoder That is the same folder I use for all the worlds 03:07 OldCoder I will try to debug it this week 03:07 VanessaE ok 03:07 OldCoder Your own world worked here 03:07 OldCoder Remember? 03:07 VanessaE yes I remember 03:07 OldCoder It is fine 03:07 OldCoder What does the error message mean? 03:08 OldCoder kaeza, what is the git link again? 03:08 kaeza OldCoder: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc 03:09 VanessaE OldCoder: it means that hatches depends on mesecons...wait a sec.. 03:09 VanessaE something is messed up here, it should be failing here too, but it doesn't???? 03:10 VanessaE if minetest.get_modpath("mesecons") then 03:10 VanessaE mesecon:register_on_signal_on(on_hatch_punched) 03:10 VanessaE mesecon:register_on_signal_off(on_hatch_punched) 03:10 VanessaE end 03:10 VanessaE those are the affected lines.... 03:11 OldCoder So... found it? 03:11 VanessaE not yet 03:11 OldCoder kaeza, ty 03:11 VanessaE ls minetest-mod-mesecons 03:11 OldCoder ? 03:11 VanessaE what's in that folder? 03:11 VanessaE I wonder if the zip is not getting everything 03:12 OldCoder Hold on 03:12 OldCoder http://minetest.org/temp.txt 03:12 OldCoder ^ VanessaE 03:12 VanessaE looks right... 03:12 VanessaE could there be some globally-installed mods interfereing? 03:12 VanessaE -e 03:13 kaeza OSTRICH? http://xkcd.com/492/ 03:19 NekoGloop Those my hatches? 03:23 VanessaE NekoGloop: I don't think so 03:24 NekoGloop VanessaE: 3d when down? 03:24 VanessaE I think this copy came from cornernode's archive, which might be the old ironzorg one 03:24 VanessaE yup, wrong hatches. 03:24 VanessaE got a URL to your working ones? 03:28 NekoGloop Should be on the forum 03:31 VanessaE ok let's see how that works 03:31 VanessaE (found and installed yours) 03:32 VanessaE much better, 03:33 NekoGloop 03:33 VanessaE OldCoder: new update coming, with a different version of hatches. Why it works for me, I don't know, but now it's got NekoGloop's version. 03:33 VanessaE OldCoder: upload in progress. 03:34 NakedFury may I ask what you mean by hatches? 03:35 VanessaE NakedFury: trapdoors 03:35 VanessaE OldCoder: Upload complete. Download when ready. 03:35 OldCoder VanessaE, k 03:38 kaeza any good desktop capture app for linux? 03:38 kaeza I mean video capture 03:39 kaeza NekoGloop: then it comes "HEY! LISTEN!" 03:39 jordan4ibanez pilzadam should make his carts have a sound attached to them when they move 03:39 NekoGloop Pfft 03:39 VanessaE kaeza: gtk-recordmydesktop 03:39 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: +1 03:39 kaeza VanessaE: thx 03:39 VanessaE just the sound of wheels on rails or so would be plenty 03:39 OldCoder VanessaE, that fixed it 03:40 kaeza I believe PilzAdam's carts had sound... 03:40 OldCoder I will start the world formally in a few minutes 03:40 VanessaE OldCoder: I still don't get why it was working for me, but whatevr :-) 03:40 OldCoder VanessaE, there is something weird about the old mod 03:41 kaeza WOW! gtk-recordmydesktop is only 176 K? 03:42 kaeza Windows app developers should learn about this 03:42 kaeza to not bloat their apps 03:43 NekoGloop Again, only mac users call software "apps" 03:43 kaeza NekoGloop: sorry 03:44 kaeza is "applications" better? 03:44 jordan4ibanez I want to make 03:44 jordan4ibanez I want to make the carts mod into a train mod, but idk if i should do it on top of all of these things 03:44 kaeza make: *** No rule to make target `jordan4ibanez'. Stop. 03:45 jordan4ibanez don't talk nerdy to me 03:45 preludelinux_lap hello everyone 03:45 kaeza hello preludelinux_lap 03:45 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/0JslOWGHJCQ 03:45 NakedFury jordan maybe focus on a 1 mod first and complete it 03:46 jordan4ibanez hello prelude 03:46 jordan4ibanez are you in your prelude right now? lol 03:46 NakedFury and if you do a train, do you plan to make it big? as in bigger than 1 block 03:46 kaeza +1 for a train 03:47 kaeza I need it for my subway 03:47 kaeza meh 03:48 preludelinux_lap not anymore .... its been awhile since i have had that car 03:49 preludelinux_lap but theres also an intrusion detection software called prelude 03:54 VanessaE Ok, I could use some help from someone.. 03:55 VanessaE didn't I read somewhere of a util that would generate an up-to-date colors.txt for minetestmapper based on a person's textures and mods? 03:56 mauvebic builtin/misc_register.lua 03:57 VanessaE ? 03:58 mauvebic use the function register_node to generate a list of nodes and assign colors 03:59 mauvebic im pretty sure thats how it worked though i havent seen the tool in awhile now :/ 04:00 OldCoder kaeza, It is much better in the logs. But (1) does not auto-join. (2) When /join is done it says you are in the channel but no bot appears 04:00 kaeza OldCoder: hmm 04:00 OldCoder No error messages 04:00 OldCoder Does not auto-join 04:00 OldCoder /join says O.K. in channel 04:01 kaeza wait 04:01 kaeza lemme check 04:01 VanessaE mauvebic: I must be tired because I can't make heads or tails of this... 04:01 OldCoder VanessaE, your world is all happy again :-) 04:01 OldCoder I wonder what changed before 04:02 VanessaE OldCoder: who knows heh 04:06 kaeza OldCoder: seems to work OK on my side 04:06 kaeza hmmm 04:06 kaeza wait 04:06 kaeza I'll fetch a fresh copy to a clean dir 04:08 * NekoGloop punts a kitten in the general direction of VanessaE 04:08 kizeren it joins IRC but won't join a channel. Still working on that 04:08 OldCoder VanessaE, I think you should catch the kitten 04:08 OldCoder Else there will be kittens everywhere 04:09 * sokomine sees the kitten and grabs it 04:09 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on every exposed surface of #minetest 04:09 * sokomine puts nekogloop into a jail for spamming with kittens 04:10 * NekoGloop puts a can of spam on sokomine's head 04:10 OldCoder sokospam 04:10 kaeza1 yay kittehs 04:11 kaeza1 ... 04:11 * sokomine is entirely innocent :-) 04:11 * NekoGloop sits on sokomine's head 04:11 * sokomine cries for help as that happens only with bugs! 04:11 * NekoGloop comfy =w= 04:12 OldCoder mauvebic, hi 04:12 mauvebic howdy :-) 04:12 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on mauvebic's head 04:12 mauvebic scalp massage 04:13 VanessaE haha 04:13 mauvebic i could use it lol i had so much stuff to fix downtown today 04:13 * NekoGloop sits on mauvebic's head 04:13 kaeza1 OldCoder: ty for your great help; kizeren: thanks for helping me out 04:13 kaeza1 I'm going to sleep now 04:14 OldCoder kaeza1, so will continue this week I assume 04:14 OldCoder Good luck 04:14 kizeren Night kaeza1 if I get it working I will make pull request 04:14 kaeza1 OldCoder: of course 04:14 mauvebic Nekogloop http://youtu.be/FKeQpeDkoGc 04:14 kaeza1 kizeren: ty 04:14 kaeza1 good night ladies and gentlemen 04:15 mauvebic nity nite 04:15 OldCoder C U 04:15 NekoGloop M 04:15 * NekoGloop runs 04:19 NekoGloop wow. 04:19 NekoGloop Either that joke died or you are all too busy laughing. 04:23 Dopium hi all 04:23 Dopium vanessa serve down again? 04:23 VanessaE yeah but I'm waiting for it to connect so I can get the profiler output from it 04:23 VanessaE (go figure, it goes down while I'm not connected) 04:24 VanessaE it's "up" but locked at 100% CPU. 04:25 Dopium oh ok no problem thanks for letting me know 04:25 NekoGloop A program cant take 100% cpu 04:25 NekoGloop The os has to be running 04:25 VanessaE NekoGloop: 6 cores. 04:26 NekoGloop Therefore, your arguement is invalid. 04:26 VanessaE a program can use 100% of one core. 04:26 NekoGloop I have 2 cores :l 04:26 * VanessaE waits for the connection to complete (it's at least gotten to "waiting content") 04:26 NekoGloop And an intel gfx chip 04:26 NekoGloop And a cardboard case. 04:28 NakedFury profiler? 04:29 Dopium Its a debug program 04:29 NakedFury what does it profile or debug? 04:29 VanessaE mod activity 04:29 VanessaE time usage 04:29 VanessaE if this connection will ever complete so I can see what is tying up the server... 04:30 Dopium lol 04:30 VanessaE there it is. 04:30 VanessaE BAM. got it. 04:30 Dopium nice :D 04:31 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/riNMmLK6 04:31 VanessaE there it is 04:32 NekoGloop Um 04:32 NekoGloop If you think that is any kind of conclusion. 04:32 NekoGloop You are sadly mistaken. 04:32 NekoGloop Unless you have some idea what the fuck that output means. 04:32 VanessaE worst offender: Technic battery box. 04:32 VanessaE ------------------- L:@@/home/vanessa/.minetest/games/vanes 04:32 VanessaE sa_game/mods/technic/technic/battery_box.lua:166 ------------------- 04:32 VanessaE Sample count: 11604 04:32 VanessaE Time spend total: 1449.430s 04:33 NekoGloop battery box contains the code for electricity distribution 04:34 NekoGloop ^ the reason you need one in a circuit 04:34 VanessaE of course. 04:34 VanessaE RBA says he's rewriting the whole thing though, so.. 04:34 Dopium yeah i noticed that also mesecons is quite high 04:34 NekoGloop Good god 04:34 NekoGloop Let's hope his logic is more logical 04:35 mauvebic to expect one to order poison at a bar, is not logical 04:35 NekoGloop mauvebic: yet one will order water 04:36 mauvebic you werent around in the 80s, were ya? :p 04:36 NekoGloop That i was not. 04:36 mauvebic oh no wait, 04:36 mauvebic search for spock was prolly late 70s 04:36 VanessaE mauvebic: 80's. 04:36 NekoGloop And star trek doesnt interest me anyhow 04:37 OldCoder NekoGloop, are you a Star Wars fan? 04:37 NekoGloop Nope. 04:37 davidpace Bya all 04:37 OldCoder o/ 04:38 mauvebic speaking of star wars lol 04:38 mauvebic http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4117 04:39 OldCoder Has anyone tested Jordach's xmas mod? 04:39 mauvebic ooo they finally got rid of the bots 04:39 OldCoder Brand new 04:40 mauvebic doesnt seem to be on forunms :/ 04:46 mauvebic quiet at this hour 04:47 OldCoder mauvebic, what isn't on forums? 04:48 mauvebic i dont understand 04:48 mauvebic forums are quiet too 04:51 jordan4ibanez It's because of science 04:51 OldCoder mauvebic, what isn't on forums? 04:52 OldCoder Anybody wish to test Jordach's xmas mod? 04:52 mauvebic ooh jordachs xmas mod you told us to checkout 04:55 OldCoder mauvebic, yes 05:06 mauvebic i liked the ambience mod when i visited the server 05:06 OldCoder ty 05:07 mauvebic i might make an alternate version of it though 05:08 OldCoder k 05:13 VanessaE ok, time for me to get to bed. Night all. 05:14 Dopium night 05:14 OldCoder c u 05:14 mauvebic nite 05:16 RagnarLaud Hi 05:49 jordan4ibanez Would someone like to try this? 05:49 OldCoder No 06:09 kizeren OldCoder: Bot is now auto logging in properly to IRC. 06:09 OldCoder kizeren, ? 06:10 OldCoder He went to sleep 06:10 OldCoder How did it get changed? 06:10 kizeren Yea have to wait for him to get the pull request 06:10 OldCoder Is there a new version? 06:10 OldCoder You patched it? 06:10 OldCoder May I have the code? 06:10 kizeren one second let me kill my minetest clinet .....killing me here. 06:11 * VanessaE wanders back in, Cleepless in Waynesville. 06:11 VanessaE Sleepless too. 06:11 kizeren https://github.com/kizeren/minetest-irc/commit/64897c1ba0cf119fe19d2e1173b062c6ce4acc00 06:15 RagnarLaud Hi 06:16 mauvebic party time 06:16 kizeren OldCoder: Make sure autojoin and autoconnect are both true. 06:17 Aqua Hello 06:20 kizeren hi 06:20 Aqua Hello 06:22 kizeren OldCoder: Any luck with it? 06:24 OldCoder I did not see the link until now 06:24 OldCoder I will try it in about 10 minutes ty 06:32 Dopium aawww Vanessa server crashed again 06:33 VanessaE no, I restarted it to fix a bug 06:33 VanessaE but forgot to fix another bug that wouldn't let it restart :D 06:36 mauvebic done serverlite-ambience (1.2mb) 06:38 VanessaE ok, it's back now. 06:40 OldCoder Testig now 06:40 OldCoder *ng 06:50 VanessaE OldCoder: you there? 06:51 mauvebic reminds me of "Mr Grainger, are you free?" 06:51 VanessaE heh 06:51 OldCoder VanessaE, Yes 06:51 OldCoder I am 06:51 mauvebic though i dont know what time it is for him lol 06:52 OldCoder For me? 06:52 VanessaE OldCoder: World/game updated. 06:52 OldCoder Will update 06:52 OldCoder after IRC test 06:52 VanessaE I might have fixed the problem. 06:52 OldCoder I was preoccupied with my blog 06:52 OldCoder So much this weekend; not updated since Friday 06:53 OldCoder kizeren, that looks simple; you added one line 06:53 OldCoder Trying it 06:53 kizeren yea. 06:53 VanessaE no prob 06:53 VanessaE at your convenience. 06:54 VanessaE OldCoder: it would appear that you *can* embed modpacks within modpacks, but the resultant behavior is...unpredictable,. 06:54 OldCoder I C 06:54 VanessaE it turns out I had half of my standard mod collection copied a second time over, into one of the mods within that collection 06:54 mauvebic sounds messy lol 06:54 OldCoder Eh 06:54 OldCoder Yes 06:54 VanessaE well all of it I thin. 06:54 VanessaE so I got two copies of most stuff. 06:55 VanessaE that might be why the hatches was bugging out for you 06:55 mauvebic me its the doors lol 06:58 OldCoder kizeren, thanks but still no bot 06:58 OldCoder I did set both join flags to true 06:59 OldCoder When I do join 06:59 OldCoder It says already in the channel 06:59 kizeren try a "/part" then "/join" 06:59 kizeren Was working for me. This bot hates me. 07:00 OldCoder kizeren, works 07:00 kizeren you left channel default? 07:00 OldCoder No 07:00 OldCoder Set it to a channel 07:00 OldCoder Works with /part /join 07:00 kizeren it defaults to #minetest-irc-testing 07:00 OldCoder Nothing happens by default 07:00 OldCoder I know 07:00 OldCoder I set it to a channel 07:01 OldCoder It works if I /part /join 07:01 OldCoder Nothing happens by default 07:01 kizeren yea Not sure....I had it working....went to create a "disconnect" command and it broke on me :P 07:01 OldCoder So not fixed 07:01 OldCoder ty 07:01 kizeren Sort of is. 07:01 RagnarLaud Hi 07:01 kizeren Bot would never join a channel unless this was there. 07:02 OldCoder No... I need it auto or I can't use it 07:02 OldCoder You did fix a bug 07:02 RagnarLaud Hi mah'man 07:02 kizeren Just have to find the missing clue as to why no true auto. 07:02 OldCoder Sure 07:02 RagnarLaud Hi OldCoder 07:02 OldCoder VanessaE, I will need to wait to download 07:02 OldCoder RagnarLaud, Hello 07:02 VanessaE take your time, OldCoder 07:02 OldCoder VanessaE, starting to fade 07:02 RagnarLaud Hi VanessaE 07:02 VanessaE btw if anyone wants to see the map of my server, 07:02 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map.png 07:03 RagnarLaud Hey Vanessa please answer to this...why isnt my mod going to mod releases 07:03 VanessaE did you read the post I left in that thread? 07:03 RagnarLaud Yes but what did i do wrong? 07:03 RagnarLaud Nothing 07:04 RagnarLaud PilzAdam encourages to kill animals and shit 07:04 mauvebic hunting is legal 07:04 mauvebic drugs arent in most countries 07:04 RagnarLaud With his mod, but that gets there =( 07:04 akerok Hello everyone! 07:04 mauvebic especially w/ a game w/ an audience < 18yrs 07:04 VanessaE it's the decision of the MT staff that an illegal-drug-related mod not be moved to the official releases forum 07:04 OldCoder akerok, Hi 07:04 VanessaE it might be seen as promoting drug use. 07:04 akerok How are you? 07:04 VanessaE good evening akerok 07:04 OldCoder akerok, Me? 07:04 RagnarLaud Well... What about toxic drinks? 07:05 clicker4721 Can somebody answer a few quick question for me about basic mod installation? via PM 07:05 akerok Yes 07:05 OldCoder akerok, Read my blog in a day 07:05 RagnarLaud If i made drinks that kill/ make dizzy etc 07:05 OldCoder RagnarLaud, may I ask you a question privately? 07:05 VanessaE RagnarLaud: toxic drinks aren't, technically, illegal. 07:05 akerok OldCoder, What is the link to your blog? 07:05 OldCoder akerok, PM 07:05 VanessaE RagnarLaud: bleach is toxic and can be drank. yet it's legal. 07:06 clicker4721 I've been getting an ModError message for a lua script that I'm pretty sure doesn't need to exist. 07:06 VanessaE clicker4721: pastebin the complete error message so we can look 07:06 VanessaE don't paste it here though 07:06 VanessaE use pastebin.com or similar. 07:07 clicker4721 How 'bout Imgur? Screencap is easier. 07:07 VanessaE screenshots work as long as you're takeing an image of the black terminal window and not the minetest game window 07:07 VanessaE the game window's error report is always useless :-) 07:08 mauvebic PC LOAD LETTER 07:08 VanessaE heh pretty much just like that :-) 07:08 VanessaE "Check Engine o[=]" 07:08 clicker4721 Okay, hold on. I'll do it in the terminal. 07:08 mauvebic i rigged all the printers at UPS to say low mayonnaise after seeing the meme lol 07:09 VanessaE lol 07:12 clicker4721 Okay, quick snap I got: http://goo.gl/nOYPB (Don't worry, it's Imgur) 07:12 VanessaE ok that's easy 07:12 VanessaE Minetoon is a texture pack 07:12 clicker4721 It's a really basic dumb issue, I know. Just tell me I'm dumb and send me away happy. :-) 07:12 VanessaE you don't put it in with your mods :-) 07:12 VanessaE I see you run ubuntu. good. :-) 07:13 clicker4721 Well see, I didn't think I'd need to either, but I noticed that it's hierarchy fits a mod. 07:13 VanessaE mkdir Minetest-textures 07:13 VanessaE mv Minetoon Minetest-textures 07:13 VanessaE nano ~/.minetest/minetest.conf 07:13 VanessaE texture_path = ~/Minetest-textures/Minetoon 07:13 VanessaE or whatever the exact foldername is. 07:13 VanessaE restart the game and you should be good. 07:13 clicker4721 Will that take care of the hierarchy? 07:14 VanessaE sorta - texture packs aren't meant to be installed, really. They're meant to just be placed somewhere and you point your minetest.conf at it instead. 07:14 clicker4721 Torches don't work right, so I assumed using it as a mod would fix it. 07:14 clicker4721 Okay, I'll just try it. Two minutes. 07:14 VanessaE so as long as the folder has PNGs in it, or subfolders with PNGs it should be god. 07:14 VanessaE good* 07:15 VanessaE if that doesn't work, point minetest.conf one level below the Minetoon folder, to the first level that has the actual images. 07:15 VanessaE why he included an init.lua I have no idea. 07:16 clicker4721 Oh, wait: I only want to apply it to one world. Do you know off-hand which folder that goes in? 07:17 clicker4721 Yeah, see; this doesn't make any sense. http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Installing_Texture_Packs 07:19 kizeren OldCoder: only thing I can think of at 1:15am is to turn off autojoin that way when someone tries to talk they are forced to type "/join" which then will auto conenct to IRC. 07:21 mauvebic 3 more hotdogs and bedtime lol, nity nite 07:24 clicker4721 @VanessaE Okay, I dumped it all just like before, the same two problems persist: cracks and torches don't work with the new pack. I previously assumed that's what the lua scripts were for. 07:25 clicker4721 But I don't know anything anymore. 07:25 VanessaE clicker4721: ah 07:25 VanessaE well cracks and torches are differnet from what minetoon supports. 07:25 VanessaE that's the problem 07:25 clicker4721 How is that? 07:25 VanessaE it simply doesn't have the animated torches or long crack animations at all. 07:26 VanessaE those were added a couple months ago by now, but Gambit hasn't updated Minetoon to accommodate that change 07:26 VanessaE they need new files. 07:26 clicker4721 Oh, it does. I can see them in the folder. crack.png and 3 different torches 07:26 clicker4721 Wait, so can I just change the filenames? 07:26 VanessaE you could try but I don't expect that they'll work right 07:26 VanessaE maybe copy one to the other, e.g. cp default_torch.png default_torch_animated.png or so 07:28 clicker4721 Yeah, that didn't work. Well, fart. Would you happen to know of any texture packs that aren't dated? I hate the default. 07:29 VanessaE I like my HDX pack, but that's just me :-) 07:29 VanessaE it supports everything under the sun 07:29 clicker4721 HDX? I'll look it up. 07:30 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1583 07:30 wei2912 VanessaE, hi again 07:30 VanessaE hi wei2912 07:30 wei2912 do you know of any common mods that are known to cause lag? 07:30 VanessaE MOBF 07:30 VanessaE some say mesecons can 07:30 VanessaE technic can 07:31 VanessaE conifers 07:31 VanessaE jungle trees 07:31 VanessaE snow biomes 07:31 VanessaE any of the seasons mods 07:31 wei2912 ah thanks :D 07:31 wei2912 i have conifers 07:31 VanessaE any of the other biomes mods. 07:32 clicker4721 Okay, awesome. Thanks for your help! 07:33 VanessaE no prob :-) 07:33 wei2912 VanessaE, thanks for your help :) 07:34 OldCoder Hi 07:34 OldCoder kizeren, ttyl 07:46 OldCoder 07:46 OldCoder VanessaE, awake? 07:46 kizeren Strange. 07:46 VanessaE yes 07:46 OldCoder VanessaE, PM 07:46 VanessaE sure 07:46 kizeren if I log in instantly the autoconnect works 07:47 kizeren if I don't it doesn't 07:47 kizeren blahhh too late to think. 07:47 kizeren Night all. 08:06 markveidemanis[m hi 08:07 davidpace Hi 08:09 markveidemanis[m !up minetest.org:30000 08:09 Minetest-tan markveidemanis[m: minetest.org:30000 is up (0.296ms) 08:09 markveidemanis[m hello? 08:35 VanessaE morning davidpace 08:35 davidpace morning 08:39 wei2912 there's a bot? :D 08:40 VanessaE yeah 08:40 VanessaE well there was 08:40 VanessaE Minetest-tan is one 08:41 VanessaE moltenbot (not present) was the other 08:41 Dopium Link Vanessa? 08:41 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2012172012%20-%2003:15:04%20AM.png 08:42 VanessaE inspired by one RBA did :-) 08:42 Zephyrus1497 cool 08:42 Dopium Nice work looks really good 08:43 VanessaE that's the image I was working on earlier. took forever to get it just right 08:43 VanessaE I wish it could be higher resolution but the game scales it weirdly. 08:44 VanessaE (I think it just scales it to 4x and then crops to the window's size) 08:44 Dopium Still looks good tho 08:45 Zephyrus1497 gtg 08:46 Zephyrus1497 bye 08:48 VanessaE he didn't stay long... 08:48 wei2912 lol 08:50 VanessaE ah and there's the wayward bot. 08:51 VanessaE zzz 08:52 VanessaE ah to sleep.. if I only could :-/ 08:52 VanessaE I could go upstairs and lie down but as soon as my head hits the pillow I'll be wide awake again. 08:53 Dopium Sounds like your over tired lol 08:54 VanessaE I get that way a lot :-/ 08:54 VanessaE and it sucks 08:55 RagnarLaud Hey VanessaE 08:55 * VanessaE chills moltenbot both down a bit to solidify it. 08:55 VanessaE hi 08:55 RagnarLaud Hey can you teach me how to make a irc bot later? 08:56 RagnarLaud A simple one 08:56 VanessaE I don't know how. 08:56 VanessaE it's been so long since I ran a bot (15 years or so), I don't remember anything about it now. 08:59 iqualfragile RagnarLaud: no, teach yourself 08:59 iqualfragile otherwise you wont be able to archive anything 08:59 wei2912 RagnarLaud, look at PircBot if you know java 09:00 VanessaE iqualfragile: well if he has a big enough hard disk, archiving should be easy with or without a bot :D 09:04 VanessaE I think one's enough Ragnar. 09:16 VanessaE ok, I'm out. Night all. 09:26 cy1 ugh, movestones are still broken... 09:28 cy1 OldCoder: your uh map will work again once you remove the minetest_movestones mod. I thought it was working, sorry. 09:28 cy1 wait, no I stopped it! 09:28 cy1 ok never using movestones again, check 09:28 cy1 I want my moving ships already :'( 09:33 OldCoder Hi 09:33 OldCoder cy1, ? 10:20 cy1 OldCoder: sorry, I thought I broke it, but it ended up resetting so I could fix it. I think movestones can crash the server. Also ur textures are fskd 10:21 OldCoder Hi 10:21 OldCoder cy1, can you be more specific? 10:21 OldCoder About any of that? 10:23 cy1 OldCoder: you seemed to have changed your textures for trees, wood, coal, iron etc, and once they uploaded they all had that one texture glitch 10:23 cy1 where half the texture disappears 10:23 cy1 or turns to rgb static 10:23 OldCoder What texture glitch? 10:23 cy1 or uh 10:23 cy1 basically it looks like there are glitchy stripes in any texture so affected, even when stacked. 10:24 OldCoder What do you mean by "so affected" ? 10:24 cy1 only a problem for certain textures. Used to be just some stuff in moreblocks(?). Somehow your trees and wood and coal got replaced with glitchy textures. 10:25 cy1 They might be a weird size? 10:25 OldCoder 10:25 OldCoder Here is the answer 10:25 OldCoder 10:25 * OldCoder writes 10:25 cy1 'k 10:27 OldCoder thexyz told me that there is only supposed to be ONE image file of a given name. But I found *205* errors where image filenames conflicted! I added code to select images so that the rule is obeyed. This allows us to fix the Ambience Speed Problem. It's complicated. There was no way to know what images to select. If you would like to help sort things out see me this week. We can tweak it. 10:27 OldCoder cy1, ^ 10:28 cy1 sure np 10:29 cy1 so when you make two textures for the same thing, it glitches like that? 10:29 RagnarLaud Possible 10:32 KikaRz !up vanessae.mine.bz 10:32 Minetest-tan KikaRz: vanessae.mine.bz is up (0.236ms) 10:32 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP 10:33 RagnarLaud This isnt spam this is surviving 10:37 KikaRz !define grise 10:37 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking' 10:37 KikaRz !define souris 10:37 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: souris definition: river 450 '''miles''' (724 '''kilometers''') Canada & United States flowing from SE Saskatchewan SE into N North Dakota & N into the Assiniboine in SW Manitoba. 10:46 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4120 :> 10:46 moltenbot Calinou's link: [16x] Old Minetest pack (Page 1) - Texture Packs - Minetest Forums 10:56 RagnarLaud !g knife to meet ya 10:56 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPe4w7-TgsE 10:56 KikaRz !g Minecraft style 10:56 Minetest-tan KikaRz: Nope! 10:57 KikaRz !define stupid 10:57 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: stupid definition: slow of mind. 10:57 KikaRz Minetest-tan 10:57 RagnarLaud Hey KikaRz good song mineraft style 10:57 RagnarLaud By captainsparkles 10:58 RagnarLaud !g knife to meet ya 10:58 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPe4w7-TgsE 11:03 wei2912 !help 11:03 moltenbot Try !up !teach !ping [] !date [timezone] !define !joke 11:04 wei2912 who owns moltenbot? :D 11:04 wei2912 !teach minetest 11:06 RagnarLaud !g knife to meet ya 11:06 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPe4w7-TgsE 11:11 KikaRz !teach minetest 11:17 wei2912 !define test 11:17 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: test definition: '''chiefly British''' cupel. 11:17 wei2912 !up kernel.org 11:17 moltenbot Minetest server kernel.org:30000 DOWN 11:17 Minetest-tan wei2912: kernel.org seems to be down 11:17 wei2912 oh, it's for minetest servers... 11:32 KikaRz ... 11:32 KikaRz !ping kernel.org 11:32 moltenbot 64 bytes from 149.20.4.69: icmp_req=1 ttl=48 time=166 ms 11:32 KikaRz you can ping it 11:34 wei2912 i could :P 11:49 KikaRz WHo from here got the "Revenge"'s singer skin ? 11:49 KikaRz LAD i think 12:12 devlab Hi, what does this error mean: "14:07:55: ERROR[main]: TextureSource::buildMainAtlas(): Atlas is full, not adding more textures." 12:18 wei2912 devlab, means that you reached the limit for number of textures? 12:20 devlab can it be lifted? 12:23 wei2912 devlab, not sure. 12:23 devlab what file is responsible for this? 12:23 wei2912 try searching for the method "buildMainAtlas" and "Atlas is full, not adding more textures." in the source code 12:28 devlab can I lift that limit and what is the responsible file for texture Atlas? 12:30 devlab yes, when loading the world 12:32 moltenbot john_minetest's link: [Frequently Asked Questions] - Read before asking for help! (Page 1) - Bugs and Problems - Minetest Forums 12:34 devlab that error is gone 12:36 devlab now i get a dummy image error about 'technic_obsidian.png' 12:40 Muadtralk look in the texture folder to make sure its not missnamed first 12:42 devlab Muadtralk: nope, its not there, 12:43 devlab RealBadAngel: the technic mod doesn't have a technic_obsidian.png file, where is it? 13:02 KikaRz Look what is so cute... 13:02 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNfdKebcrOI 13:02 moltenbot KikaRz's link: #PuppyCam @PetCollectiveTV #Subs4Pets - YouTube 13:02 KikaRz :) 13:02 KikaRz Livestream, 13:04 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqZetiaZLg0 , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8MI81iIOuI and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi-XBXik2mg , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_UtIgXNuJU 13:04 moltenbot KikaRz's link: #HuskyCam @PetCollectiveTV #Subs4Pets - YouTube 13:04 KikaRz so cuteeee 13:13 RagnarLaud hi 13:46 devlab I'm getting a ServerEnvironment::DeactivateFarObjects() error 13:49 KikaRz love these pets 13:49 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Dldlfmr3U 13:49 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe - Corgi Rae - Pet Parody - YouTube 13:51 KikaRz they're too fantastic! 13:59 KikaRz !c 14-8 13:59 Minetest-tan 6 13:59 KikaRz !c 14+2-8 13:59 Minetest-tan 8 13:59 RagnarLaud hey kikarz 13:59 KikaRz What? 13:59 RagnarLaud stop abusing poor little Minetest-tan 13:59 RagnarLaud :D 13:59 RagnarLaud hey KikaRz 14:00 RagnarLaud look at those 14:00 RagnarLaud http://ompldr.org/vZ3E5dA/Infinity69.png 14:00 RagnarLaud http://ompldr.org/vZ3E5Mw/HVGaming.png 14:01 KikaRz !c 114640 * 0.25 14:01 Minetest-tan 28 660 14:01 KikaRz COOL! 28600 euros already gotten! 14:01 KikaRz no 14:01 KikaRz dolares 14:02 RagnarLaud hey KikarZ 14:02 RagnarLaud KikaRz' 14:02 KikaRz .. 14:02 KikaRz no spam 14:03 RagnarLaud what do you think about those pictures? 14:03 RagnarLaud it isnt spam... 14:03 RagnarLaud nice eh? 14:03 KikaRz 3 times saying hey KikaRz 14:05 RagnarLaud well what do you think? 14:05 RagnarLaud tell me please! 14:06 Darkbee I'm hoping somebody can help. When I drop items using "Q" how do I pick them up? (I thought I had to "mine" them using left mouse buttton). I've dropped a pickaxe and a locked chest but I can't seem to pick them up again. 14:06 RagnarLaud KikaRz tell me your three favourite logos or things 14:07 RagnarLaud lag 14:07 RagnarLaud Darkbee lag 14:07 KikaRz ... 14:07 RagnarLaud like hearts, ponies etc. 14:07 RagnarLaud or do you want me to pick them for you? 14:08 Darkbee This is in a single player game 14:08 wei2912 Darkbee: left click 14:08 RagnarLaud he did you dumbass 14:08 RagnarLaud but it doesnt work 14:08 Darkbee @wei2912, doesn't work. :( 14:08 RagnarLaud Darkbee even single player can lag 14:09 wei2912 RagnarLaud: nice insult, when you claimed that lag solves his problem? 14:09 Darkbee So lag explains why I can't pick them up? But shouldn't I pick them up eventually? I've seen the furnace lag but after a second or so, items are removed from the furnace 14:09 RagnarLaud i just said, that he has lag 14:09 RagnarLaud Darkbee remove some mods... 14:09 RagnarLaud then idk... 14:09 Darkbee do some mods come installed with the default game? 14:09 wei2912 RagnarLaud: I just said, left click another time 14:09 RagnarLaud yes 14:10 Darkbee Ok. I'll take a look at that. Thanks. 14:11 Darkbee since I'm here I'll just say thanks and credit to the developers... nice job with Minetest. 14:15 RagnarLaud hey KikaRz 14:15 RagnarLaud can you help me? 14:16 KikaRz shut up 14:17 RagnarLaud yeah i heard you the second time...sheesh... 14:20 cowdog1 hello 14:22 brobostigon question, i just updated my server end, and free_move wont allow me to fly through stuff anymore, is there something i have set wrong? 14:22 KikaRz noclip 14:22 KikaRz get noclip priv 14:23 brobostigon ok, let me look at that. 14:23 KikaRz brobostigon, now its needed noclip priv to fly through things 14:23 brobostigon KikaRz: i thought i have given myself all privs, ohwell. let me check that. 14:24 brobostigon KikaRz: i have noclip. 14:24 KikaRz ah! 14:24 KikaRz press H 14:25 KikaRz i think 14:25 KikaRz i think its the shortcut (the H) 14:25 brobostigon thats new, ok, let me make a note. 14:25 RealBadAngel H like noclip, perfect :) 14:26 RealBadAngel but i guess its was hjk in a row 14:26 RealBadAngel that actually makes sense 14:27 KikaRz hope you understood 14:27 KikaRz :) 14:27 RagnarLaud hey RBA 14:27 RagnarLaud can you help me? 14:28 brobostigon KikaRz: thank you, yes. 14:30 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi 14:30 RealBadAngel hi Oldcoder, how is your day? 14:30 OldCoder Muadtralk, PM 14:30 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Night :-) I am getting to sleep now 14:31 RealBadAngel time zones :) 14:31 OldCoder Yep 14:31 RealBadAngel i just got back from work 14:31 RealBadAngel brb 14:33 OldCoder You are not too tired, then 14:33 wei2912 OldCoder: is BackupCoder a clone of you? 14:33 OldCoder wei2912, He is my Android device 14:33 OldCoder For use on the bus 14:33 wei2912 OldCoder: ohh. 14:33 wei2912 lol 14:45 RagnarLaud hey oldcoder! 14:45 * devlab installed a 25 unit solar array in his world 14:46 RagnarLaud OldCoder 14:46 RagnarLaud Revenge - "A dish best served cold" ; "Sweet" 14:46 RagnarLaud what is it 14:46 RagnarLaud what is Revenge 14:47 RagnarLaud hey LAD 14:47 RagnarLaud Revenge - "A dish best served cold" ; "Sweet" 14:47 RagnarLaud what does that mean 14:47 LAD hi 14:50 OldCoder Hi 14:50 OldCoder RagnarLaud, What can I do for you? PM 14:57 aldobr hi all 14:57 aldobr how to detect if a certain item name is a tool ? 14:58 aldobr (and consequently, can only be stored as a single item in a itemstack) 14:58 kizeren http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57687#p57687 14:58 moltenbot kizeren's link: Testing Server & Survival. (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums 14:59 kizeren Server is up with IRC mod installed. Feel free to try it out. 15:02 RagnarLaud bye 15:05 * OldCoder is resting 15:08 * devlab ponders the point of the coal driven generator 15:21 KikaRz gtg 15:21 KikaRz going to shop 15:25 harrison I AM THE HARRISON 15:37 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:37 EqualsRagnar Hi 15:38 EqualsRagnar yolo = yo + hello 15:39 EqualsRagnar Yolo 15:39 EqualsRagnar Calinou yolo! 15:46 RagnarIsMyName !g let me talk to 'em 15:46 Minetest-tan RagnarIsMyName: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPnt8_sKSMU 15:46 VanessaE good morning all. 15:46 RagnarIsMyName Ditto 15:47 KikaRz Hi! 15:47 KikaRz Im back 15:47 RagnarIsMyName Btw VanessaE im Ragnar... Dont belive me? Ask something only he knows 15:47 RagnarIsMyName Hi KikaRz 15:47 KikaRz Shut up. 15:47 VanessaE hi. 15:47 VanessaE hey KikaRz. Server's working normally now, I think the problem is fixed. 15:47 RagnarIsMyName Whats wrong mommy? 15:48 KikaRz yay VanessaE! 15:48 RagnarIsMyName Ok one down. One to im 15:48 RagnarIsMyName One to go 15:48 KikaRz VanessaE 15:48 KikaRz can enter? 15:48 VanessaE sure of course 15:49 VanessaE it's up and running normally. 15:49 RagnarIsMyName Hey VanessaE 15:49 VanessaE hi 15:49 RagnarIsMyName Can i get no clip and fly, 15:49 VanessaE everyone has those privs by default. 15:49 RagnarIsMyName Can i get server? 15:49 Minetest-tan GIT: xyzz (Ilya Zhuravlev) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fix hypen used as minus sign (manpages), fix spelling error (server.cpp) e301bc2d77 2012-12-17T07:46:54-08:00 15:50 VanessaE !up vanessa* 15:50 Minetest-tan VanessaE: Invalid Address 15:50 moltenbot Minetest server vanessa*:30000 DOWN 15:50 VanessaE oh you suck. 15:50 VanessaE vanessae.mine.bz:30000 15:50 VanessaE !up vanessae.mine.bz:30000 15:50 Minetest-tan VanessaE: vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (0.240ms) 15:50 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000:30000 DOWN 15:50 KikaRz fail 15:50 RagnarIsMyName Hey VanessaE can i get server priv? 15:50 KikaRz !up vanessae.mine.bz 15:50 Minetest-tan KikaRz: vanessae.mine.bz is up (0.234ms) 15:50 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP 15:50 VanessaE RagnarIsMyName: absolutely not. 15:50 KikaRz I'm smarter than yours! 15:51 Calinou EqualsRagnar> Calinou yolo! 15:51 Calinou *sets autoban on "yolo"* 15:51 Calinou some craftbukkit plugin does that :3 15:53 brobostigon anyone around who has tried a compile on freebsd, a friend of mine wants to play, but has freebsd. 15:53 Calinou heh, bsd 15:54 Calinou no idea :P 15:54 brobostigon Calinou: me neither, i just going to try standard method, and then try and work it out. 15:54 Calinou GIT: xyzz (Ilya Zhuravlev) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fix hypen used as minus sign (manpages), fix spelling error (server.cpp) e301bc2d77 2012-12-17T07:46:54-08:00 15:54 Calinou ^ I thought these were the same? 15:54 thexyz Calinou: ? 15:54 Calinou if I type /teleport 0,-1,0 with a minus, it does the same thing if I put an hypen instead of minus 15:55 thexyz >(manpages) 15:55 Minetest-tan GIT: xyzz (Ilya Zhuravlev) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fix hypen used as minus sign (manpages), fix spelling error (server.cpp) e301bc2d77 2012-12-17T07:46:54-08:00 15:55 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Fix modname prefix in stairs and slab functions 8c977451a8 2012-12-16T10:52:13-08:00 15:55 thexyz !up minetest.ru 15:55 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.ru:30000 UP 15:55 thexyz neat 15:56 KikaRz Calinou 15:56 KikaRz Thats to fix that bugs when placing things up the slabs and etc???????? 15:59 kaeza hi! 15:59 VanessaE hey kaeza 15:59 kaeza what's up? 15:59 VanessaE KikaRz: sorry about that, testing a new command on the server. 15:59 VanessaE there we go, that fixed it. 15:59 Calinou KikaRz: no 15:59 Calinou just for modding 16:00 kaeza hi john 16:00 KikaRz :' 16:00 Calinou VanessaE: is it /setpassword without arguments? :D 16:00 KikaRz VanessaE, what command? 16:00 VanessaE haha 16:00 VanessaE no implementing a /spawn command 16:00 Calinou we need that in the default game, with "enable_spawn_command" setting (true by default) 16:00 Calinou we have like 5 implementations of /spawn commands 16:00 VanessaE agreed 16:01 VanessaE Calinou: I use this, which I got from redcrab: 16:01 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/jAXqXdy2 16:01 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [Lua] minetest.register_on_chat_message(function(name, message, playername, player) - Pastebin.com 16:01 VanessaE (modified slightly to remove a couple of unrelated variables) 16:01 Calinou we could do the same thing for home too (with "home" privilege).. 16:01 VanessaE sethome mod 16:01 VanessaE needs 'home' priv. 16:02 PilzAdam VanessaE, why dont you use register_chat_message()? 16:02 VanessaE PilzAdam: because I'm just using the code redcrab gave me, and if it works, it works :-) 16:02 PilzAdam this would enable help for it 16:05 KikaRz http://clickjogos.uol.com.br/jogos/maximum-frustration-2/ 16:05 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Maximum Frustration 2 no Click Jogos 16:05 KikaRz this game is totally frustating 16:07 kaeza KikaRz: Play Nethack :) 16:07 kaeza THAT is frustrating 16:07 KikaRz virus? :P 16:07 kaeza nope 16:07 Calinou hack the net to play 16:07 jin_xi nethack is cool 16:07 kaeza a classic text-mode game 16:08 Calinou what? a text-mode game is using vim... 16:08 * jin_xi the male neutral human tourist 16:08 kaeza jin_xi: yes! cool! I lost all my stuff to a fucking knoll/goblin/whatever that was 16:08 jin_xi knoll is from crawl 16:08 KikaRz 2,0 mb in Firefox = 5 minutes??? O_O' 16:08 VanessaE PilzAdam: have you seen the latest version of the mese changes? 16:09 VanessaE PilzAdam: with crystals et.al 16:09 PilzAdam where? 16:09 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/65 16:09 moltenbot VanessaE's link: Changed Mese to act like an object cut out of a block of stone, rather than an object found *among* the stone. by VanessaE ? Pull Request #65 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 16:09 Calinou KikaRz: everything is so long in firefox! 16:09 VanessaE celeron55 seems to like this ^^^ 16:09 kaeza KikaRz: use Chrome 16:09 KikaRz kaeza, too lag form e 16:09 kaeza VanessaE: that's a really good idea 16:10 VanessaE PilzAdam: this modification is in place on my server already, if you want to experiment. UFOs and mese picks use the new recipes. 16:10 Calinou chromium* 16:10 Calinou FTFY 16:10 VanessaE Calinou: +1 16:10 kaeza I always thought why did you get the mese block 16:10 kaeza instead of a "lump of mese" or something similar 16:11 kaeza KikaRz: or use wget 16:12 Jordach hello everyone 16:12 PilzAdam hi Jordach 16:12 kaeza hey Jordach 16:12 Jordach hey PilzAdam 16:12 Jordach kaeza * 16:12 Jordach and OldCoder 16:13 Jordach im really tired 16:13 Jordach (did a assault course 3 stories up in the air, held on by a metal clip) 16:13 PilzAdam Jordach, youtube -> search "follow the red dot" -> you will be awake 16:16 KikaRz jordach, get this pretty song. 16:16 KikaRz http://jadakre.tk 16:16 moltenbot KikaRz's link: jadakre.tk 16:16 KikaRz it's so lovely... 16:16 KikaRz i lvoe it. 16:16 KikaRz *love 16:18 KikaRz or shafou.com 16:18 KikaRz :) 16:18 Calinou seems legit 16:19 Calinou john_minetest: lol 16:19 KikaRz Yaay 16:19 KikaRz people with cardiacal problems 16:19 KikaRz dont watch it 16:19 RagnarLaud Hi yall 16:19 Zeg9 Hi 16:21 RagnarLaud Hey who knows how to make a irc bot 16:21 Calinou google(R) 16:21 * VanessaE pokes PilzAdam 16:21 * PilzAdam pokes back 16:22 RagnarLaud Hey who knows how to make a irc bot 16:22 Jordach hello VanessaE 16:22 thexyz RagnarLaud: google is your friend 16:23 RagnarLaud You too thexyz 16:23 RagnarLaud Right? 16:23 thexyz dunno 16:23 devlab RagnarLaud: for where? 16:23 * Jordach notices the lag to freenode is 0.1s, which is above jordach's average of 0.0s 16:23 VanessaE hey Jordach 16:23 RagnarLaud <='0 16:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: you never answered my question :-) 16:24 PilzAdam what question? 16:24 devlab no really, where do you want the bot? 16:24 RagnarLaud Here on irc 16:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: if you saw the latest version of the mese changes. Come to my server to see it in action (mese pickaxe, UFO use it) 16:24 devlab have a VPS? 16:24 RagnarLaud No 16:24 PilzAdam VanessaE, arent they a few days old? 16:25 devlab i have a vps, what kind of bot? 16:25 VanessaE indeed they are. 16:25 PilzAdam we already talked about it in -dev 16:25 PilzAdam with c55 16:25 RagnarLaud A bot that would say anything once every minute 16:25 VanessaE PilzAdam: well consensus from those who commented on the commit was to merge it 16:25 RagnarLaud So i wouldnt crash 16:26 VanessaE PilzAdam: I counted 5 in favor, 2 opposed, 1 abstain 16:26 devlab You want a chatterbot huh? 16:26 RagnarLaud Yeah 16:26 VanessaE whatever bot you create, RagnarLaud, do not bring it here, 16:26 VanessaE we already have like three and that's enough. 16:26 RagnarLaud A CleverBot 16:27 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEhnJqhMTHU 16:27 moltenbot Jordach's link: Keyboard led vu meter - YouTube 16:27 Jordach something i worked on a few weeks back 16:27 RagnarLaud But i keep crashing whenever nobody talks for over 2 minutes 16:27 devlab tbh, last time a bot that i created entered a channel, it got banned 16:27 RagnarLaud So please VanessaE 16:28 RagnarLaud Lol 16:28 VanessaE no. 16:28 RagnarLaud Well what if...i will ask OldCoder 16:28 VanessaE I'm pretty sure I speak for the rest of the mods here: add a bot and it will be banned immediately 16:28 RagnarLaud Hey VanessaE, will you be the bot them?? 16:28 devlab lol 16:28 KikaRz LOL 16:29 KikaRz RagnarLaud, stop talking a lot of phrases with 3 words. 16:29 RagnarLaud Hi KikaRz 16:29 KikaRz RagnarLaud, stop talking a lot of phrases with 3 words. 16:29 RagnarLaud No 16:29 RagnarLaud I 16:29 RagnarLaud Wont 16:29 KikaRz ... 16:29 kaeza back 16:29 RagnarLaud Hi kaeza 16:29 Zeg9 Hello ! 16:29 kaeza hi! 16:29 * marktraceur joins in 16:29 RagnarLaud Yolo 16:29 kaeza hi Zeg9 16:29 marktraceur Hi! 16:29 RagnarLaud Hi 16:29 kaeza hey marktraceur 16:30 devlab RagnarLaud: not pleasent, i had to talk to Freenode's staff 16:30 KikaRz +q "yolo"!@* 16:30 devlab to get the bot unbanned 16:30 RagnarLaud Hey KikaRz. I ____ you. Fill im the _ 16:30 KikaRz hate 16:31 KikaRz i know you hate me 16:31 RagnarLaud No 16:31 KikaRz and that space? it's a gap. 16:31 Jordach tips, KikaRz /ignore RagnarLaud all, and RagnarLaud, /ignore KikaRz all 16:31 devlab hahah 16:31 RagnarLaud I know that. You think im an ______? 16:32 KikaRz PilzAdam, how we grow up the cocoa trees? 16:32 kaeza1 please not again Ragnar 16:32 RagnarLaud Well, Jordach, you, my good sir, are a _______! 16:32 RagnarLaud XD 16:33 marktraceur KikaRz: Why would RagnarLaud hate you? I mean, maybe dislike, but it's the internet! You can't hate words! :) 16:33 RagnarLaud Hi kaeza1 16:33 Jordach Well done, 7 letter word, can i has 50 points + a triple word score? 16:33 kaeza1 Jordach is a bunch of underscores? I don't get it... 16:33 RagnarLaud Jordach only if you answer it correctly 16:34 Jordach 455#013 16:34 RagnarLaud Kaeza1 ill tell you when your older xD 16:34 marktraceur kaeza1: It means he's an underachiever, maybe? 16:34 kaeza1 Jordach: maybe 16:34 kaeza1 RagnarLaud: I double your age 16:35 RagnarLaud Right. Of course you do, little princess =3 16:35 RagnarLaud XD 16:35 kaeza1 uhh... princess?? 16:35 markveidemanis[m hi 16:36 kaeza1 hi mark 16:36 markveidemanis[m hello? 16:36 markveidemanis[m hi 16:36 markveidemanis[m im on my phone 16:36 kaeza1 RagnarLaud: I'm the Lord of Darkness >:] 16:37 kaeza1 markveidemanis[m: I'm on a chair 16:37 RagnarLaud Hey. How much do 21001 coconuts cost, if the size of the earth is diveded by the mass of the sun and tripled? 16:37 kaeza1 :P 16:37 RagnarLaud No really, tell me, idk 16:37 RagnarLaud XD 16:38 kaeza1 the earth size cannot be 'diveded' 16:38 markveidemanis[m :-) ;-) ;-) :-P =-O :-* :O B-) :-$ :-! :-[ O:-) :-\ :'( :-X :-D o_O :-/ x-( :-| <3 :-V XD :-Q :-@ :-C :-O 16:38 markveidemanis[m kp 16:39 RagnarLaud Kaeza1 you cant be diveded!! 16:39 sfan5 !up mcbride.homelinux.net 16:39 moltenbot Minetest server mcbride.homelinux.net:30000 UP 16:39 kaeza1 hello sfan5 16:39 marktraceur RagnarLaud: Nothing, because A) There'd be nobody around to buy or sell the coconuts and B) The coconuts wouldn't grow. Earth wouldn't have its atmosphere if it were that small. 16:39 sfan5 !ping mcbride.homelinux.net 16:39 sfan5 wtf?! where is Minetest-tan? 16:39 moltenbot host mcbride.homelinux.net DOWN 16:39 sfan5 !server 16:39 Minetest-tan sfan5: Calinou's Server | calin.sytes.net:30000 up (91.438%) 16:39 sfan5 !up mcbride.homelinux.net 16:39 RagnarLaud Lol 16:39 moltenbot Minetest server mcbride.homelinux.net:30000 UP 16:40 jojoa1997 vanessa afk? 16:40 RagnarLaud !joke 16:40 thexyz sfan5: i've disabled !up, no need to see that server is up/down twice 16:40 Zeg9 Whose server is mcbride.homelinux.net? 16:40 sfan5 but i found the ms time for pinging usefuel :( @thexyz 16:41 RagnarLaud jojoa VanessaE is idle 16:41 jojoa1997 k 16:41 sfan5 Zeg9: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57687#p57687 16:41 moltenbot sfan5's link: Testing Server & Survival. (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums 16:41 Zeg9 Okay 16:42 RagnarLaud Hey ruben 16:42 rubenwardy hi all 16:42 thexyz sfan5: well, iqualfragile refused to remove !up from moltenbot, so i did that 16:42 RagnarLaud Hey rubenwardy 16:42 rubenwardy Hi, wuu2? 16:42 RagnarLaud Can you make me a website tomorrow? 16:43 Zeg9 RagnarLaud, why wouldn't you do that yourself 16:43 thexyz and i don't want to argue with him or anybody 16:44 RagnarLaud KNIFE to meet you, *guy gets stabbed* foot worry, im in STABle condition 16:45 kaeza1 ... 16:45 RagnarLaud Zeg9 cause im not good @ it 16:45 Zeg9 Ha nice found an interesting bug 16:45 Zeg9 in the latest git, no fall damage is taken when fly is enabled - even if no fly privilege ! 16:45 marktraceur RagnarLaud: Who is happiest in a stable condition? Horses. 16:45 kaeza1 RagnarLaud: try Kopozer :) 16:46 kaeza1 Kompozer 16:46 kaeza1 * 16:46 * kaeza1 is lolling at the joke by marktraceur 16:46 * marktraceur giggles all the way to work 16:46 RagnarLaud Is it for ubuntu 9.04 16:46 kaeza1 RagnarLaud: wrong 16:46 Zeg9 Make websites with openoffice :D 16:46 sfan5 who uses ubuntu 9.04 (if you leave my school out 16:46 rubenwardy WordPress is good 16:46 sfan5 )? 16:47 RagnarLaud The library maybe, where i use a public pc... 16:47 kaeza1 sfan5: My uni had Win95 back in 2004 :( 16:47 sfan5 lol 16:47 RagnarLaud Lol 16:47 kaeza1 public schools suck 16:47 rubenwardy I have a Win95 laptop with 16 MB ram, 4 GB hard drive space 16:48 kaeza1 rubenwardy: +1 16:48 kaeza1 Win98SE is the most stabe version IMHO 16:48 rubenwardy still better than Vista 16:48 KikaRz yea! 16:48 Jordach IMPOSSIBRU! 16:48 RagnarLaud Well my granny has a commodore 128 16:48 KikaRz No 16:48 KikaRz the 3.x its the most stable 16:49 Jordach vista runs better on mine that xp does 16:49 kaeza1 IDK, XP is a mem hog 16:49 kaeza1 And Vista too 16:49 Jordach kaeza1, its using 200mb as of right now 16:49 kaeza1 I prefer Seven 16:49 RagnarLaud Hey Jordach rwj much? 16:49 rubenwardy kaeza1 +1 16:49 KikaRz PilzAdam 16:50 KikaRz How i can get my cocoa trees working? 16:50 kaeza1 (that is, WHEN I use Windows) 16:50 kaeza1 I prefer Linux all the way! 16:50 aldobr hi all 16:50 rubenwardy how do you resize layers on gimp? 16:50 kaeza1 hi aldobr 16:50 rubenwardy nm 16:50 RagnarLaud Jordach did you take that from rwj's episode? 16:50 kaeza1 rubenwardy: Layer->resize 16:50 aldobr what is the type returned by minetest.registered_items[] ? 16:51 kaeza1 aldobr: same as ItemDef 16:51 aldobr i need to check if a certain item-name is a tool 16:51 aldobr its there a sane way ? 16:51 kaeza1 minetest.registered_items["default:wood"].description 16:51 kaeza1 err.. 16:51 aldobr theres no itemdef in the api.txt 16:51 kaeza1 minetest.registered_items["yourmod:youritem"].description 16:52 RagnarLaud !g his here have no fear darkman is back 16:52 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4hfsh_nana-she-s-coming-terminator-remix_music 16:52 KikaRz !g Laud 16:52 Minetest-tan KikaRz: Nope! 16:52 RagnarLaud Great song 16:52 KikaRz fuck you bot 16:52 KikaRz !owner 16:52 kaeza1 aldobr: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1297 16:52 moltenbot kaeza1's link: minetest/doc/lua_api.txt at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 16:52 RagnarLaud KikaRz pwned much? 16:52 KikaRz shut up 16:52 KikaRz ignored RagnarLaud 16:53 VanessaE PilzAdam: problems connecting? 16:53 aldobr kaeza1 thats exactly the document i am reading 16:53 aldobr theres no itemdef 16:53 PilzAdam VanessaE, nope, just testing a patch from thexyz 16:53 VanessaE ok 16:53 kaeza1 and that's exactly the structure saved in registered_items 16:53 kaeza1 aldobr: ^ 16:53 RagnarLaud !g KikaRz getting pwned by a bot 16:53 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-11-17 16:54 aldobr ah, found 16:54 aldobr thanks 16:55 PilzAdam VanessaE, just for the record, I will mainly ignore this channel from now on because its just too loud here 16:55 aldobr theres nothing there that points that an item is a tool 16:55 kaeza1 aldobr: np. just ask if you have any doubts 16:55 PilzAdam VanessaE, you can talk to me on the other channels 16:55 aldobr what happens to tool_capabilities if an item is not a tool ? 16:55 RagnarLaud The pen is stronger than the sword, but only if the pen is held by RagnarLaud 16:55 VanessaE ok. 16:55 aldobr is it set to nil ? 16:55 KikaRz PilzAdam, i need to talk with you 16:55 KikaRz About your farming_plus mod 16:55 aldobr (if yes, i can use that to detect if item is a tool) 16:56 kaeza1 hmm 16:56 kaeza1 I don't know much about that one 16:56 kaeza1 I don't mess with tools 16:57 kaeza1 sorry 16:58 aldobr another question 16:59 aldobr i have an array indexed by names 16:59 Minetest-tan GIT: xyzz (Ilya Zhuravlev) commited to celeron55/minetest: Make m_media_fetch_threads to contain MediaFetchThread* instead of MediaFetchThread e9006f904c 2012-12-17T08:56:59-08:00 16:59 aldobr in other place i need to index that array by numbers instead of name 16:59 aldobr how to get the name and value from the index ? 16:59 aldobr like 16:59 aldobr local a = {} 16:59 aldobr local a['name'] = 10 16:59 aldobr how to get 'name' from a[1] ? 17:01 RagnarLaud Why did moltenbot quit? 17:01 aldobr smoke a little 17:01 aldobr pee maybe 17:02 kaeza1 aldobr: wait 17:02 sfan5 aldobr: a['name'] 17:02 aldobr nope 17:02 aldobr i dont know "name" 17:02 aldobr i know index 17:02 aldobr i want to get the name 17:02 rubenwardy Should the food mod have nyan cat sandwich or nyan cat burger? 17:03 aldobr rubenwardy how could someone eat a nyan cat ? 17:03 sfan5 ^ 17:03 aldobr :( 17:03 FreeFull aldobr: a[1] = "name" ? 17:03 RagnarLaud I would 17:03 kaeza1 rubenwardy: mmmmm... nyan cay sandwich... 17:03 Minetest-tan IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/minetest/bot/modules/rssnotify.py", line 39, in rsscheck) 17:03 KikaRz hahahaah 17:03 rubenwardy 1 nyan cat -> 99 sandwiches 17:03 RagnarLaud GHGHGH 17:03 thexyz lol 17:03 aldobr local a['default:coal_lump'] = 10 17:03 aldobr ops 17:03 aldobr local a = {} 17:03 aldobr a["default:coal_lump"] = 10 17:03 kaeza1 Just asking but just how rare is the nyancat? 17:04 aldobr a["default:torch"] = 20 17:04 RagnarLaud Yo, i lost my virginity before my dad did, yo 17:04 aldobr for i=1,table.getn(a) do 17:04 aldobr minetest.debug(a[i] ???) 17:04 aldobr end 17:04 aldobr i want to print "default:coal_lump" and "default:torch" 17:05 rubenwardy very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very x 100 17:05 rubenwardy rare 17:05 kaeza1 aldobr 17:05 kaeza1 you must look up the index them 17:05 kaeza1 then* 17:05 aldobr a[i] 17:05 kaeza1 for i=1, table.getn(a) do 17:05 kaeza1 no wiat 17:06 kaeza1 wait a moment plz 17:06 aldobr hm 17:06 aldobr forget, i can do with pairs() 17:06 Zeg9 ipairs 17:07 Zeg9 Someone got player textures ? I'm making a skins mod and would like some default skins to put in 17:07 Zeg9 It allows 2d as well as 3d skins 17:08 kaeza aldobr: http://pastebin.com/UiQ95rSa 17:09 aldobr hm 17:09 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest: Fix falling damage when not flying f4ed37ec6f 2012-12-17T09:04:41-08:00 17:09 aldobr ok 17:09 aldobr but this is a linear search 17:09 moltenbot rajaniemi.freenode.net's link: freenode: frequently-asked questions 17:09 Zeg9 PilzAdam, did someone report it before me ? :D 17:09 kaeza there's no other way 17:09 aldobr :/ 17:09 KikaRz fail 17:09 PilzAdam Zeg9, nope 17:09 KikaRz '-' 17:09 aldobr damm lua 17:09 kaeza unless you do the other way around 17:09 KikaRz Zeg9, he ignored the room 17:10 aldobr i found a way using pairs 17:10 kaeza a[10] = 'default:coal_lump' 17:10 PilzAdam Zeg9, it was a rather obvios bug if you look at the code 17:10 Zeg9 I guess that 17:10 aldobr no because i have to store two values 17:10 aldobr and i dont want to make it a sub-table 17:10 aldobr because in other place i index by the names 17:10 kaeza can you pastebin your code? Iy may make things clearer 17:10 aldobr i am doing the part of the code that detects if the player has enough free slots 17:10 kaeza It* 17:10 aldobr well 17:11 aldobr let me ask, 17:11 aldobr its there a way to detect if i can put several items into the player inventory AT the same time ? 17:11 iqualfragile RagnarLaud likes jokes 17:11 aldobr not only one, but four itemstacks at the same time 17:11 kaeza aldobr: use inv:room_for_item() 17:11 KikaRz !joke 17:11 KikaRz !joke RagnarLaud 17:12 aldobr kaeza this only tests for one stack 17:12 kaeza you do it in a loop 17:12 iqualfragile (he has allready requested 102 jokes from my bot 17:12 aldobr room_for_item("main", ItemStack("default:mese 99")) 17:12 Zeg9 What's the license for this: minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3915 ? 17:12 rubenwardy (17:07:44) Zeg9: Someone got player textures ? I'm making a skins mod and would like some default skins to put in 17:12 rubenwardy (17:07:51) Zeg9: It allows 2d as well as 3d skins 17:12 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/charaters 17:12 kaeza and you can check for room 17:12 rubenwardy sorry, http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/avatar/ 17:12 aldobr if theres space for one item 17:12 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Welcome - Minetest Characters 17:12 rubenwardy only 2d atm 17:12 aldobr it will answer ok even if the three items cannot be added simultaneously 17:12 Zeg9 rubenwardy, what's the license? 17:13 aldobr because i am testing only one item at a time 17:13 moltenbot gibson.freenode.net's link: freenode: frequently-asked questions 17:13 rubenwardy ask the creator 17:13 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Fix modname prefix in stairs and slab functions 8c977451a8 2012-12-16T10:52:13-08:00 17:13 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/avatar/zipball.php to download them all 17:14 aldobr ah 17:14 aldobr thats too hard 17:14 aldobr :/ 17:14 aldobr i will rewrite everything from scratch 17:14 kaeza aldobr 17:14 kaeza wait a bit 17:15 RagnarLaud I won at connect4 im 3 moves yay!!! 17:16 rubenwardy -!- Food Mod(s) Update - 0.8.2 -!- 17:16 rubenwardy coming in 30 minutes 17:16 rubenwardy >> food 17:16 rubenwardy PilzAdam's simplemobs support 17:16 rubenwardy docfarming support 17:16 rubenwardy clean up 17:16 rubenwardy >> food_modern 17:16 rubenwardy popcorn 17:16 rubenwardy milkshakes 17:16 rubenwardy chips 17:16 rubenwardy burgers 17:16 rubenwardy hot chocolate 17:16 KikaRz SHUT UP 17:16 rubenwardy and nyan cat rainbow juice 17:17 thexyz every time i see post about any modern game http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/10/500x_niceshooting.jpg 17:17 ruskie lol 17:17 ruskie it's just something for the OCD people ;) 17:18 RagnarLaud How much is a gallon? 17:18 thexyz RagnarLaud: google://gallon 17:19 ruskie ~4L 17:19 RagnarLaud !g gallon 17:19 Minetest-tan RagnarLaud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon 17:19 jordan4ibanez thexyz, can you push this https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/295/files 17:19 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Allow different place sounds by moving the code for it to Lua by PilzAdam ? Pull Request #295 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 17:19 RagnarLaud !define gallon 17:19 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: gallon definition: a unit of liquid capacity equal to 231 cubic inches or four quarts. 17:19 jordan4ibanez so this can be pushed https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/48 17:19 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Add the place field to default sound table by PilzAdam ? Pull Request #48 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 17:19 kaeza aldobr: 17:19 thexyz jordan4ibanez: ask PilzAdam 17:20 jordan4ibanez pilzadam can you push that stuff 17:20 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, no, c55 doesnt want this; it should be done in c++ so the sound is perfectly synchronized 17:21 jordan4ibanez But that's the main fucking point, it tells you if a server is lagging 17:22 PilzAdam sound isnt the best medium to do this 17:22 kaeza aldobr: http://pastebin.com/TABmJtL3 17:22 jordan4ibanez All this stuff about how to get server lag, and i found a solution which adds another feature, and it's not getting pushed 17:22 moltenbot kaeza's link: [Lua] local stacks = { { item=ItemStack("'default:mese' 99"), added=false; }, { it - Pastebin.com 17:22 kaeza maybe you can adapt that code 17:22 jordan4ibanez Yes, yes it is, there is no better way that you can constantly check without an annoying block, or constantly /ping 17:23 kaeza I didn't test it though 17:23 jordan4ibanez "oh i think this server is lagging" *places block* "hmmm..." *block sound* "oh yep!" 17:23 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, in current code there is even an dummy node placed so the client doesnt notice the server lag when building 17:23 PilzAdam so just remove this to get the server lag 17:24 jordan4ibanez No, that will LOOK hacky, the way this does it is very efficient and constant 17:25 sfan5 hi Minetest-tan 17:25 Minetest-tan Hey sfan5! 17:25 RagnarLaud Yo pick up ze phone 17:25 RagnarLaud Hi minetest-tan 17:25 Minetest-tan Hey RagnarLaud! 17:25 RagnarLaud Way 17:25 RagnarLaud yay 17:26 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, the current code is all about people shouldnt recognize the server lag 17:27 RagnarLaud PilzAdam did you know that... 17:27 jordan4ibanez But that is highly unlikely and close-minded because people should be able to recognize server lag because all servers lag, and if the code is all about how people shouldn't notice server lag, why does the server 17:28 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, this only applies to very high pings 17:28 PilzAdam the normal lag isnt that massive that this effect is noticeable 17:28 sfan5 !server 17:28 Minetest-tan sfan5: [Wazu] Clan Server 0.4.4 | wazuclan.com:30000 up (96.719%) 17:28 sfan5 !server 17:28 Minetest-tan sfan5: [Wazu] Clan Server 0.4.4 | wazuclan.com:30000 up (96.719%) 17:28 sfan5 !server 17:28 Minetest-tan sfan5: dise's server [0.4.3] | dise-minetest.no-ip.org:30000 up (86.631%) 17:29 sfan5 !server 17:29 Minetest-tan sfan5: Mrtux's Minetest server | minetest.org:30001 up (90.676%) 17:29 sfan5 !server 17:29 Minetest-tan sfan5: [0.4.3] LAD's creative server 24/7 | minetest.org:30006 up (90.653%) 17:29 kaeza aldobr2: hi again! 17:29 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, but the sound would even with default lag sound weird 17:29 jordan4ibanez Every server i go on has this kind of lag, sometimes even localhost, and it's very irritating 17:29 kaeza aldobr2: have you read the pastebin I posted? 17:30 aldobr2 hi 17:30 aldobr2 im reading 17:30 jordan4ibanez OH, then change the play at position, to play to player 17:30 aldobr2 local stack_count = #stacks; 17:31 jordan4ibanez but whatever, i give up on that then 17:31 aldobr2 is this the same as local stack_count = tables.getn(stacks) ? 17:31 sfan5 aldobr2: yes 17:31 aldobr2 nice 17:31 aldobr2 new trick for me 17:31 sfan5 :D 17:32 aldobr2 i will try another way 17:32 aldobr2 see, if the player is buying something, he will have less money after buying than before 17:32 aldobr2 so i will put the money back into the player inventary (the change) 17:32 aldobr2 and drop the item to the ground 17:33 aldobr2 he grabs the item from the ground 17:33 aldobr2 if hes inventory is not full 17:33 RagnarLaud RagnarLaud : 0 = 1 17:33 aldobr2 else he moves items to the craft area to create space 17:33 aldobr2 etc 17:34 RagnarLaud !joke 17:34 RagnarLaud !joke 17:34 RagnarLaud !joke 17:34 RagnarLaud !joke 17:34 RagnarLaud !joke 17:34 RagnarLaud !joke 17:34 RagnarLaud !joke 17:34 marktraceur Holy gods. 17:34 sfan5 RagnarLaud: stop spamming 17:35 RagnarLaud Ok. Btw sfan5 you are an _______ 17:35 sfan5 thanks for the compliment :) 17:35 * kaeza is amused 17:35 jordan4ibanez You are nil sfan5 17:35 jordan4ibanez lol 17:36 RagnarLaud >=( 17:36 aldobr2 kaeza 17:36 sfan5 i wonder if you can divide through nil 17:36 kaeza yes? 17:36 aldobr2 the only problem is that the machine will get more money than before the sell 17:36 aldobr2 so i still have a problem to detect free slots :/ 17:36 kaeza As I said, I didn't actually test the code 17:36 jordan4ibanez You can, but it equals nil 17:36 aldobr2 i will make so that the machine only operates if there are 3 empty slots 17:36 aldobr2 thats harsh, but works 17:36 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: :D 17:36 jordan4ibanez it's like dividing by zero, because nil basically is 0 17:37 jordan4ibanez OH GOD TOO MUCH MATH 17:37 RagnarLaud !joke 17:37 RagnarLaud !joke 17:37 RagnarLaud !joke 17:37 RagnarLaud !joke 17:37 RagnarLaud !joke 17:37 RagnarLaud !joke 17:37 RagnarLaud !joke 17:37 RagnarLaud !joke 17:37 RagnarLaud !joke 17:37 RagnarLaud !joke 17:37 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: It depends on how Lua does type coercion, I guess 17:37 kaeza aldobr2: You can loop through the array returned by env:get_list() 17:37 jordan4ibanez no, nil is the absense of a number, essentially 0 17:37 marktraceur sfan5: How's that op status treatin' you? 17:38 kaeza aldobr2: and count those for which stack:is_empty() returns true 17:38 sfan5 x/0 technically equals Infinity*(1-2*(x<0)) 17:38 aldobr2 yes 17:38 kaeza jordan4ibanez: wrong! 17:38 kaeza nil != 0 17:38 jordan4ibanez Nil equals nothing 17:38 sfan5 marktraceur: dunno... 17:39 marktraceur aldobr2: What are you trying to do, exactly? 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 RagnarLaud !joke 17:39 Jordach good 17:39 kaeza +1 sfan5 17:39 jordan4ibanez Fucking retard 17:39 Jordach +x/0 17:39 marktraceur Something tells me that won't matter much 17:40 sfan5 +x/0 17:40 sfan5 ^ what? 17:40 kaeza Jordach: OH SHI-- 17:40 Jordach >:D 17:40 aldobr2 marktraceur i am doing a selling machine 17:40 thexyz +inf, apparently 17:40 aldobr2 but i must be carefull with inventory overflow 17:40 iqualfragile http://minetest.ne 17:40 thexyz iqualfragile: dns lookup failed 17:40 marktraceur aldobr2: In what circumstance, exactly? 17:40 sfan5 x/0 = Infinity*(1-2*(x<0)) @Jordach 17:41 Jordach ha 17:41 Jordach sfan5, this is not twitter 17:41 aldobr2 @marktraceur my mod uses 3 kinds of money 17:41 iqualfragile shure, i actualy tried to remove teh wohle line but accidentaly hit enter… 17:41 aldobr2 i need to take money from the player, put the change back into the player, remove the sold item from the machine, put the money paid into the machine and put the item sold into the player 17:41 aldobr2 all without overflowing the inventory 17:41 aldobr2 and must be atomic 17:41 marktraceur Hm. 17:41 aldobr2 cannot fail midway 17:42 jordan4ibanez How to, find an item in inventory? 17:42 sfan5 Jordach: i didn't want to delete the text i already wrote and i didn't want to move my cursor 17:42 Jordach lolol 17:42 marktraceur aldobr2: I think you can fetch the inventory stacks via InvRef:get_list or similar. Then you can play with that as a test and see what works for you, without modifying the inventories. 17:43 marktraceur aldobr2: I think you could also put the money in escrow and punish a player who didn't think it through by not giving them the item :) 17:44 sfan5 http://example.com 17:44 moltenbot sfan5's link: Example Domain 17:44 aldobr2 i found a solution 17:44 aldobr2 based on the following 17:44 aldobr2 the machine only operates if it has 3 empty slots 17:44 aldobr2 the player will allways receive less money than it paid 17:44 aldobr2 the machine will allways have less items than before 17:45 aldobr2 and if the player has no free slot for the bought item, the item is dropped 17:45 aldobr2 i believe this will solve 17:45 aldobr2 item 2 and 3 means i dont need to check for space 17:45 aldobr2 and item 1 and 4 solves the inventory overflow 17:46 jordan4ibanez update: now fireworks boxes work as that; you place fireworks in them like a chest, and they will shoot off 17:46 marktraceur aldobr2: Why not have a non-displayed inventory for the machine's money balance? 17:46 jordan4ibanez on mesecons power on 17:46 aldobr2 marktraceur because i want the money to be tangible 17:46 aldobr2 the machine is like a locked chest 17:46 aldobr2 the owner (the seller) can open it and place items to sell and take the money of the items sold 17:46 aldobr2 the money is not abstract, but is real coins 17:47 aldobr2 made out of mese 17:47 marktraceur aldobr2: Well, why not have two nodes, then--one for items to sell and one for the collected money? 17:47 aldobr2 real in the game sense 17:47 aldobr2 marktraceur i believe this would make the thing too complex 17:47 aldobr2 but i will try that if the current model fails 17:47 rubenwardy thexyz, sfan5, Calinou, VanessaE 17:47 rubenwardy http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51230#p51230 17:47 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Publishing Mods: For mod makers, new and old (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 17:47 sfan5 RagnarLaud disconnected from Freenode! 17:47 rubenwardy what do you think? 17:48 VanessaE hiruben 17:48 VanessaE er hi rubenwardy 17:48 VanessaE rubenwardy: come play on my kickass server :D 17:48 sfan5 rubenwardy: really nice! stickd' 17:48 sfan5 VanessaE: ip? 17:48 VanessaE sfan5, rubenwardy: vanessae.mine.bz:30000 17:48 VanessaE it has tons of mods, so it'll take a while to load. 17:48 sfan5 !up vanessae.mine.bz 17:48 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP 17:49 aldobr2 last bug : 17:49 aldobr2 local sound = minetest.sound_play("mint_atm.ogg", { pos=pos, gain=1.0, max_hear_distance=32 }) 17:49 sfan5 VanessaE: can i get a preloaded cache directory zipped? 17:49 aldobr2 doesnt play sound 17:49 marktraceur sfan5: You know Ragnar has three or four different nicks? Ragnar, RagnarLaud, EqualsRagnar 17:49 VanessaE sfan5: sure, gimme a few minutes to prepare it. 17:49 sfan5 marktraceur: lemme check 17:50 sfan5 marktraceur: RagnarLaud doesn't own the Ragnar nick, other nicks are not online 17:50 marktraceur Hm. 17:50 VanessaE sfan5: uploading... 17:52 aldobr2 finished 17:52 aldobr2 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57541#p57541 17:52 moltenbot aldobr2's link: [mod] mint & automatic selling machine [mint] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 17:52 VanessaE sfan5: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/vanessae.mine.bz-cache.zip 17:52 celeron55 ummmmmmmmm 17:53 rubenwardy VanessaE! you dont have my food mod installed, but you do have farming and farming_plus installed! :P 17:53 Jordach yes celeron55? 17:53 thexyz sfan5: why do you need the cache? 17:53 thexyz just make VanessaE to enable remote_media 17:53 celeron55 i do not like rubenwardy's promotion of his half-made extension repo in a "howto" that actually explains nothing, that is a sticky 17:53 VanessaE rubenwardy: I never thought to add it :-) 17:53 rubenwardy sorry, you may unsticky it 17:54 marktraceur aldobr2: I'm intrigued! Thanks for the cool mod. 17:54 VanessaE thexyz: I don't know anything about that remote_media thing, I've only seen some talk about it, but I'm not aware of how it works. 17:54 thexyz well, it's perfectly documented 17:54 celeron55 it shouldn't be a sticky for now, or alternatively remove the minetest extensions promo and add more useful stuff and links to it 17:55 thexyz VanessaE: like, in client.cpp 17:55 VanessaE thexyz: is that part of the main repo yet? 17:55 thexyz VanessaE: it is 17:55 celeron55 or alternatively make it solely an advertisement for your minetest extensions repo 17:55 aldobr2 if only some server decided to add my minecoins mod 17:55 celeron55 then it can be left to be a sticky 17:55 kaeza1 hello celeron55 17:55 thexyz actually, what you need is to set up some http server (better use nginx) and then make media accessible from web 17:55 celeron55 just don't make your site look like it'd be something official 17:56 celeron55 or, the post to look so, that is 17:56 thexyz then set remote_media to point to url where that media can be accessed (don't forget the tailing /) 17:56 marktraceur celeron55: It would be a good idea to start supporting at least one centralized repo, don't you think? 17:56 marktraceur Or at least a repo _system_ 17:57 marktraceur rubenwardy: Does your repo have source code somewhere? 17:57 celeron55 i'm fine with people doing their own things and hosting their sites and advertising on the forum, as long as they make it clear they aren't part of the "main website" 17:57 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest-forum 17:57 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: rubenwardy/minetest-forum ? GitHub 17:57 KikaRz wait a sec 17:57 celeron55 if the community decides to start supoorting one, fine; but currently i don't want to take sides 17:57 KikaRz !c 2012-1992 17:57 Minetest-tan 20 17:57 marktraceur Hrm, PHP 17:57 VanessaE thexyz: so this also requires a newer client build as well (obvious I guess)? 17:58 sfan5 VanessaE: and curl activated client side 17:58 PilzAdam VanessaE, but old clients can still connect 17:58 VanessaE right, I assumed (both) 17:58 celeron55 rubenwardy: do i seem reasonable? 17:58 rubenwardy you do 17:58 VanessaE is curl built by default if present? 17:58 celeron55 so, you know your options 8) 17:58 PilzAdam VanessaE, yep 17:58 celeron55 tell if you'd like it to be unstickied 17:59 sfan5 its unsticked 17:59 thexyz VanessaE: yeah, but it also supports older clients 17:59 sfan5 *unstickied 17:59 thexyz btw, i'm planning to make semi-automatic minetest builds using MSVC with all features enabled (like gettext, curl, etc..) 17:59 VanessaE ok, I'll update the server then. 18:00 VanessaE #media_fetch_threads = 8 <-- this is the default? 18:00 rubenwardy I have updated it 18:00 PilzAdam VanessaE, yep 18:00 kaeza1 new commit? 18:00 kaeza1 ... 18:00 thexyz VanessaE: yes, that only affects client 18:00 VanessaE ok, so nothing special need be done on my end - just pull and build. 18:01 thexyz yeah 18:01 thexyz and set up web server 18:01 VanessaE excellent. 18:01 celeron55 rubenwardy: nice, re-stickied it 18:01 thexyz and symlink everything to it 18:01 VanessaE web...server? 18:01 VanessaE fuck 18:01 VanessaE I knew there was a catch :-) 18:01 thexyz (21:54:58) thexyz: actually, what you need is to set up some http server (better use nginx) and then make media accessible from web 18:01 sfan5 VanessaE: pythons SimpleHTTPServer should work 18:01 celeron55 rubenwardy: you clearly got what i was thinking 8) 18:01 thexyz sfan5: no way 18:01 thexyz better use some real one 18:01 thexyz like nginx 18:02 thexyz that's all about perfomance, remember? 18:02 VanessaE shouldn't the server/engine start its own mini webserver for this purpose? 18:02 thexyz and then you set up some slow web server in python... 18:02 thexyz VanessaE: i'm too lazy to write one 18:02 Zephyrus1497 HI 18:02 thexyz and i don't think this is needed 18:02 thexyz why do we need to have webserver inside minetest? 18:02 Jordach thexyz, still faster than the default method 18:02 VanessaE haha 18:02 thexyz Jordach: probably 18:02 VanessaE thexyz: why do wee need http fetch with no webserver to serve it? :-) 18:03 Jordach thexyz, you should really turn down the negativity when someone is against your views 18:03 thexyz VanessaE: because it works faster 18:03 thexyz Jordach: what about my negativity? 18:03 thexyz care to quote me? 18:04 jordan4ibanez what is the equivilant to \n in lua? 18:04 Jordach sfan5: no way 18:04 Jordach better use some real one 18:04 kaeza VanessaE: http://www.hiawatha-webserver.org/ 18:04 moltenbot kaeza's link: Hiawatha - Hiawatha webserver 18:04 jordan4ibanez \n being new line in python 18:04 Zephyrus1497 hi everyone 18:04 VanessaE meh. 18:04 kaeza hey Zephyrus1497 18:04 VanessaE I'll look into this later when I'm less pressed for ti,me 18:04 thexyz VanessaE: to conclude, use nginx 18:04 VanessaE time* 18:04 Zephyrus1497 How is everyone today? 18:04 VanessaE hi Zephyrus. 18:04 markveidemanis good,...good. 18:05 aldobr2 any recommended app to make ingame videos? 18:05 thexyz Jordach: sorry, i don't see anything negative here 18:05 VanessaE ok, nginx website is open for later review 18:05 thexyz it also could be my awful understanding of english, btw 18:05 kaeza aldobr2: gtk-capturemydesktop 18:05 * rubenwardy has just finished listening to Portal 2: the complete sound track, and is now listening to Bon Jovi: Living on a prayer 18:05 aldobr2 im on windows :P 18:05 sfan5 VanessaE: ubuntu's file roller crashed while i wanted to extract the zip xD 18:05 VanessaE haha 18:06 VanessaE command line ftw :-) 18:06 VanessaE kaeza: gtk-recordmydesktop 18:06 kaeza VanessaE: ty. type 18:06 VanessaE well nginx is installed, I'll configure it later. 18:06 kaeza typo* FCK 18:06 sfan5 7zip in command line works fine, gui apps crash 18:07 VanessaE kaeza: double FAIL 18:07 VanessaE lol 18:07 kaeza :P 18:07 rubenwardy interesting trend for Minetest Extensions http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/piwik_weekly.png 18:07 marktraceur "Shockingly, after letting people upload files, more files were uploaded" 18:07 jin_xi is an extension the same as a mod? 18:08 sfan5 marktraceur: haha 18:08 marktraceur Oh, visits 18:08 sfan5 jin_xi: extension == mod 18:08 rubenwardy Minetest Extensions is a collection for Mods, Textures and sounds 18:08 sfan5 VanessaE: i forgot the password i used for your server 18:08 marktraceur jin_xi: We don't use the term extension, rubenwardy single-handedly decided to do that 18:08 rubenwardy Minetest Extensions does not host files 18:09 rubenwardy what should I call it? 18:09 jin_xi well i think its a bit confusing 18:09 thexyz how about some sort of "mod reviewing" site? 18:09 marktraceur rubenwardy: I think it should only be a mods repo, but that's just me 18:09 VanessaE sfan5: what's the most graceful way to reset it? 18:09 thexyz where "reviewers" should sign files with their gpg key or something 18:09 sfan5 VanessaE: auth.txt 18:09 VanessaE (the only way I know is to edit auth.txt and rest...) 18:09 rubenwardy ok 18:09 thexyz lie >this mod is reviewed by VanessaE, sha1: <>, [download], GPG sign: <> 18:09 VanessaE is a restart needed? 18:10 thexyz *like 18:10 marktraceur VanessaE: There should be a command to reload auth (I think) 18:10 marktraceur /reload_auth or something facile as that 18:10 sfan5 marktraceur: there is a function for that but not a command 18:10 jordan4ibanez Aw mann, minetest doesn't support multiline description boxes :( 18:11 marktraceur I swear I've seen it 18:11 VanessaE ahh 18:11 VanessaE /clearpassword 18:11 VanessaE sfan5: reset. 18:11 rubenwardy how about that: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/index.php 18:11 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Home - Minetest Mods 18:12 rubenwardy|away brb 18:12 VanessaE sfan5: you can login now if you want. 18:12 marktraceur rubenwardy|away: It's not a forum, I hope you realize. It's basically a file host. Call it a repo or upload site or something. 18:12 jordan4ibanez That's a lot better 18:13 sfan5 VanessaE: i can't login 18:13 VanessaE sfan5: give it a new password? 18:14 sfan5 VanessaE: forget what i said 18:14 VanessaE forgotten :D 18:18 jordan4ibanez working on a firework api :D 18:19 * Zeg9 is looking for player textures (for sprites as well as models) and their license 18:21 rubenwardy It doesn't host files though, marktraceur 18:22 thexyz it should 18:22 rubenwardy http://github.com 18:22 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: GitHub ? Build software better, together. 18:23 thexyz rubenwardy: tell that to modders, not me 18:23 marktraceur https://gitorious.org 18:24 moltenbot marktraceur's link: Gitorious 18:24 rubenwardy bah 18:24 Calinou https://github.com 18:24 moltenbot Calinou's link: GitHub ? Build software better, together. 18:24 Calinou HTTPS FTW 18:25 Zeg9 Bbl 18:25 jordan4ibanez Calinou and his extreme views :D 18:27 thexyz marktraceur: better use http://gitlabhq.com/ then 18:27 moltenbot thexyz's link: GITLAB Site 18:28 thexyz hm.. i probably should update my local one 18:28 * kaeza welcomes new users to the Internet, where every FCKING thing yields a war, even VCS 18:29 rubenwardy I use github because minetest uses it 18:29 rubenwardy I dont know the adv/dis vantages of other ones 18:29 Zephyrus1497 oh it does does it? 18:29 rubenwardy I dont really care 18:30 thexyz rubenwardy: github is not free 18:30 Zephyrus1497 Mine is f***ed up 18:30 rubenwardy is it not? 18:30 rubenwardy ah, and gitorious is 18:31 kaeza github is free for opensource projects IIRC 18:31 thexyz not like in free beer ^^ 18:32 thexyz rubenwardy: both gitorious and gitlab are free/libre 18:32 mauvebic github... users could waste more time learning that than the actual MT API lol 18:32 thexyz john_minetest: are we talking about git or github? 18:32 thexyz git is free, of course 18:33 kaeza hello mauvebic 18:33 Kray are you whining about github's internal stuff not being open source 18:33 Kray if you are, stfu 18:33 mauvebic hey kaeza 18:33 Kray that's completely irrelevant 18:33 thexyz Kray: not for marktraceur 18:33 marktraceur thexyz: I tried, but it doesn't allow anonymous http checkouts 18:33 thexyz marktraceur: yeah, that one is good for private repos 18:33 thexyz i always forget to mention that 18:34 mauvebic i have yet to meet a system that beats the simplicity of anon file uploads lol 18:34 thexyz in general, i dislike gitorious interface 18:34 VanessaE gitorious may be a nice solution for the sake of open source, but I *hate* its interface 18:34 markveidemanis HI 18:35 VanessaE sorry marktraceur :-) 18:35 marktraceur VanessaE: I don't take offense, I didn't design it 18:35 VanessaE I know, but you tend to promote it :-) 18:36 celeron55 i wonder why they don't update the interface 18:36 thexyz btw, gitlab has very similar to github interface 18:38 marktraceur VanessaE: It's just a matter of freedom, the interface doesn't have to be nice 18:38 thexyz marktraceur: most people will choose github then 18:38 marktraceur VanessaE: If there were a good free software git repository host that ran over telnet, I'd sho' 'nuff use that, too 18:38 thexyz for example, i did because of awful gitorious interface 18:39 VanessaE heh 18:39 marktraceur thexyz: And that's your choice. I choose to support free software, you choose not to. Fair enough. 18:39 celeron55 minetest uses github for the sole reason of bitbucket not supporting git at the time minetest moved from mercurial to git 18:39 Zephyrus1497 Ur museum looks good VanessaE 18:39 celeron55 otherwise it'd use bitbucket 18:39 VanessaE well I'm quite a visual person, so for me a good UI takes precedence over freedom of the underlying framework 18:39 marktraceur Though if you'd like to offset that, the FSF is having a donation drive :) 18:39 celeron55 (bitbucket isn't libre afaik) 18:39 VanessaE Zephyrus1497: Dolan is building it, I haven't see it yet 18:39 Zephyrus1497 Hello celeron 18:40 VanessaE to a degree, that is 18:41 thexyz marktraceur: isn't it important for fsf to get new people involved? 18:41 leo_rockway I'm jumping in in the middle of the conversation, but what about gitorious? 18:41 VanessaE 6638 sectors in my map already. growing fast :-) 18:42 mauvebic whats the furthest point? 18:42 VanessaE 82 MB 18:42 mauvebic (furthest developed) 18:42 mauvebic nb 18:42 marktraceur thexyz: Yes, but not at the cost of supporting non-free software. 18:42 VanessaE doesn't hold a candle to Redcrab's 5GB map though :-) 18:42 mauvebic 300mb my map uncompressed 18:42 mauvebic jesus 18:42 VanessaE mauvebic: yeah but 90% of your map is worldedit'd or the equivalent in madblocks ;-) 18:42 thexyz marktraceur: how's that related? i wasn't talking about supporting non-free software at all 18:43 thexyz *weren't 18:43 marktraceur thexyz: OK, then yes. What's your point? 18:43 mauvebic VanessaE 1) theres only two of us 2) were not into building shacks lol 18:43 marktraceur ("wasn't" was the right contraction, though) 18:43 VanessaE heh 18:44 VanessaE mauvebic: I build decent, big houses without worldedit (except to prepare the ground underneath if needed) :-) 18:44 thexyz marktraceur: to get new people involved == to make things most of people would like, i.e. better interface; instead, it's common for open source devs to add something they want to 18:44 thexyz well, i can't blame them for doing so 18:44 mauvebic no one could build by hand what we build w/ WE anyhow so the point is moot 18:44 Jordach VanessaE, interesting buildings can be made without flatlands 18:45 mauvebic i doubt enough people know how to use WE wisely enough to build nice looking megaliths 18:45 VanessaE Jordach: I know, sometimes it's helpful to get some flat land first, build the house, then landscaping around it 18:46 marktraceur thexyz: It's certainly not low priority to help build a better repo host. GNU has its Savannah, which is arguably even worse than Gitorious. 18:46 jin_xi ^ its true 18:55 markveidemanis i am testing zeg9's skins mod on my server 18:55 markveidemanis you can pick skin in-game 18:55 Zephyrus1497 VanessE u should get that mod 18:56 VanessaE link? 18:56 minetest-B1BDFEA *** markveidemanis joined the game 18:56 * marktraceur smirks at "VanessE" 18:56 Zephyrus1497 ................................................ 18:56 markveidemanis https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-skins 18:56 moltenbot markveidemanis's link: Zeg9/minetest-skins ? GitHub 18:56 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest: Add ability to change the itemstack in placenode callbacks 29c17c14f1 2012-12-17T10:49:18-08:00 18:56 VanessaE markveidemanis: forum post plz 18:56 VanessaE I need to see the description of it too 18:56 minetest-B1BDFEA its not on the forum yet 18:57 minetest-B1BDFEA just on my server for testing 18:57 VanessaE ok 18:57 VanessaE well when you're done testing, make a forum post about it and I will examine it. 18:57 kaeza hello! 18:57 minetest-B1BDFEA also i have the irc mod (you may have noticed) 18:57 kaeza make 18:57 kaeza mark 18:57 rubenwardy I am guessing minetest-B1BDFEA is a irc mod 18:57 kaeza * 18:57 VanessaE hey kaeza 18:57 VanessaE rubenwardy: yes 18:57 * marktraceur figures it might be time to add the IRC mod to the LPGC server 18:58 minetest-B1BDFEA no 18:58 minetest-B1BDFEA thats the game-name 18:58 minetest-B1BDFEA so, is anyone coming on? 18:58 kaeza rubenwardy: haven't you tried it? 18:58 kaeza markveidemanis: IP? 18:59 minetest-B1BDFEA my name, then whois 18:59 minetest-B1BDFEA at the top 18:59 kaeza k 18:59 rubenwardy not yet 18:59 minetest-B1BDFEA l 18:59 minetest-B1BDFEA p 19:00 kaeza rubenwardy: If you're going to test it, for now compile from sources 19:00 kaeza the binaries are a bit outdated 19:00 markveidemanis any one coming on? 19:01 kaeza markveidemanis: one moment please 19:01 minetest-B1BDFEA k 19:02 minetest-B1BDFEA *** markveidemanis left the game 19:02 mauvebic !up mauvebic.strangled.net 19:02 moltenbot Minetest server mauvebic.strangled.net:30000 DOWN 19:03 mauvebic damn, gonna have to DMZ both towers lol 19:06 markveidemanis p 19:11 rubenwardy http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57731 19:11 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Help] somes problems (Page 1) - Bugs and Problems - Minetest Forums 19:14 rubenwardy VOTE: Should this contain texture packs as well? 19:14 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/index.php 19:14 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Home - Minetest Mods 19:14 kaeza rubenwardy: strange fella 19:14 kaeza the forum topic I mean 19:14 rubenwardy yeah 19:15 Jordach rubenwardy, yes 19:17 * Jordach fears .jpg files when scanning documents 19:21 markveidemanis who is working on a mod thats not in the forum 19:22 markveidemanis hi 19:23 RagnarLaud Hi minetest-tan 19:23 Minetest-tan Hello RagnarLaud 19:24 VanessaE rubenwardy: why doesn't food mod use vessels for the texture sources? :-) 19:24 markveidemanis Hi minetest-tan 19:24 Minetest-tan Hey markveidemanis 19:24 markveidemanis haha 19:24 markveidemanis is the server up minetest-tan? 19:25 rubenwardy it uses animal materials, because that is what I organially used before vessels 19:25 VanessaE well fix it :-) 19:25 jordan4ibanez Rocket/firework API works :D now to the dust particle api 19:25 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: new video of the results? 19:25 EqualsRagnar Hi minetest-tan 19:25 Minetest-tan Hello EqualsRagnar 19:26 jordan4ibanez the video will be the same, but now you can make fireworks very easily 19:26 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: I hope to add this mod to my server when it's able to launch controlled displays :-) 19:27 Jordach celeron55, could we possibly have a texturing section, like modding but texture packs and player skins go there 19:27 jordan4ibanez how do i find a group in a chest? 19:28 Jordach (and perhaps requesting textures.) 19:31 rubenwardy food mod's support.lua is quite clever IMO. It sees what mods are installed, and adds support for them 19:31 jordan4ibanez Awesome 19:31 rubenwardy not as clever as mesecons, of course 19:32 VanessaE so.. 19:32 celeron55 offtopic: my ludum dare 25 entry: http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-25/?action=preview&uid=16208 19:33 VanessaE do I install food or do I reject it because it doesn't use vessels textures ;-) 19:33 celeron55 anyone else participated? 19:33 rubenwardy does it matter? 19:33 VanessaE never heard of it 19:34 Jordach celeron55, i noted the video on youtube 19:34 celeron55 it's odd how little the minetest community and the indie gamedev scene have in common 19:34 VanessaE celeron55: seems pretty random to me :D 19:34 celeron55 i guess it's the libre/non-free separation as always 19:35 celeron55 i often feel like the only person in the world who lives in both of these worlds 8) 19:35 Jordach celeron55, me too 19:38 * kaeza wants to kill his modem 19:39 rubenwardy Modem? 19:41 celeron55 Jordach: have you done something recently that is better called "indie gamedev" rather than "minetest stuff"? 19:41 VanessaE mo-dem /mow' dem/ v. 1. What you did when the grasses got too high. 19:41 markveidemanis who will go on my serveer 19:41 Jordach celeron55, does coding small games for iOS count 19:41 Jordach (yes, im paying for dev stuff :3) 19:42 celeron55 Jordach: definitely does 19:42 thexyz like pong? 19:42 markveidemanis who will build on my server 19:42 marktraceur Jordach: You certainly are! 19:42 Jordach thexyz, i have pinball machines and recreate them 19:43 thexyz that should be fun 19:43 thexyz any app$tore links? 19:43 Jordach A) i'd open source them, but the sounds, textures etc are not FOSS 19:43 Jordach B) possible rejection, apple is an asshole to coders 19:43 thexyz be careful when choosing license, some of them are incompatible with appstore 19:44 thexyz remember when VLC was pulled off 19:44 cosarara97 thexyz: but you can double-license your own work without problems 19:44 rubenwardy Appl$euro; 19:44 rubenwardy Appl€ 19:45 cosarara97 Appl€ 19:46 kaeza celeron55: can you export some network api from minetest? 19:46 celeron55 kaeza: what kind of 19:46 celeron55 and to where 19:46 kaeza to use from lua 19:46 * Jordach is drawing the minetest skin artwork 19:47 kaeza like for my irc mod 19:47 kaeza the messages are intermixed between those in-game 19:47 thexyz rubenwardy: yeah, better set up compose key 19:47 celeron55 well, dunno; there is the problem of choosing how much to include, and then if less is included, people will start demanding the full extent of luasocket or something 19:48 kaeza hmm... I see your point 19:48 celeron55 a simple tcp socket could be included 19:48 celeron55 maybe 19:48 kaeza that would be enough for most things 19:48 rubenwardy Appl€, Micro$oft, Googl€, £acebook 19:48 kaeza connect/shutdown/recv/send 19:48 celeron55 "most things" = bad re-implementations of common protocols :D 19:48 kaeza lol you're right 19:48 Jordach celeron55, you're right 19:49 celeron55 we'll have to see about including luasocket in minetest 19:49 celeron55 but not today 19:49 kaeza there's no rush c55 19:49 kaeza this needs to be worked out first 19:49 kaeza we may introduce backdoors if we do the wrong thing 19:50 celeron55 you might want to research this a bit and note if you find some handy solutions 19:50 kaeza hmm 19:50 kaeza btw it was updated to join/part channels on demand 19:51 kaeza celeron55: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc 19:51 moltenbot kaeza's link: kaeza/minetest-irc ? GitHub 19:54 jordan4ibanez could you use the network api to download player's skins from minetest.net? 19:54 jordan4ibanez i mean luasocket 19:54 Zephyrus1497 .... 19:54 Zephyrus1497 .. 19:54 Zephyrus1497 ..... 19:54 Zephyrus1497 ........... 19:54 Zephyrus1497 cant think 19:54 marktraceur Zephyrus1497: This is all very fascinating 19:55 Zephyrus1497 how? 19:55 rubenwardy just realised that there is no nav bar in minetest mod reviewer anymore... 19:55 marktraceur Zephyrus1497: Well, I'm curious to see how many times you can send only-dot messages before getting kicked 19:55 Zephyrus1497 ok im gonna stop now 19:55 marktraceur Seems smart to me 19:56 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Use infinite stacks in creative mode and make the hand break anything 61e60724f6 2012-12-17T11:27:01-08:00 19:56 Jordach PilzAdam, YOU FAIL 19:56 jordan4ibanez I wonder if i can make a mod which players can have their skins automatically downloaded from a special list of servers 19:56 Jordach how does one open doors 19:56 jordan4ibanez when they join a server that is 19:56 PilzAdam Jordach, hand breaks everything after 0.5 sec. 19:58 celeron55 jordan4ibanez: that is not supported, and requires additions to the engine in order to be 19:58 jordan4ibanez Damn 19:59 kaeza1 jordan4ibanez: nice idea 19:59 kaeza1 about DL'ing skins 19:59 jordan4ibanez thanks, celeron55, you could have minetest.net work as a skin directory, and the account player's use in the forum contains their skin or something 20:00 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/avatar/ uses punbb, just needs a downloader client 20:00 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Welcome - Minetest Characters 20:00 rubenwardy punbb is the forum celeron55 uses 20:01 kaeza1 rubenwardy: Hey! It's that GloopMaster? 20:01 rubenwardy so there is the server side scripts, just needs a download and updating scripts 20:02 rubenwardy what> 20:02 rubenwardy ? 20:02 kaeza1 the 9th one in the 2d gallery? 20:03 rubenwardy yes it is 20:03 RagnarLaud Hi rub 20:04 RagnarLaud Rub 20:04 * marktraceur expects that we'll soon be singing "Rubenwardy" to the tune of Ernie's "Rubber Ducky" 20:04 RagnarLaud Hey rubenwardy 20:05 RagnarLaud Yeah 20:05 RagnarLaud Hey 20:05 RagnarLaud Mark 20:05 RagnarLaud Do you have some duck tape? 20:07 rubenwardy (8:04:42 PM) ***marktraceur expects that we'll soon be singing "Rubenwardy" to the tune of Ernie's "Rubber Ducky" 20:07 rubenwardy Complement or Joke? 20:08 jordan4ibanez I am happy to say that fireworks now work correctly, and i am finishing up the last touches on the api 20:08 marktraceur rubenwardy: Both! 20:09 kaeza1 jordan4ibanez: link plz 20:09 marktraceur Maybe a tad creepy, with the implications that I want to see you at bath time. But even so. 20:10 mauvebic duck tape, bath time....*walks back out* 20:10 mauvebic lol 20:10 * marktraceur totally has duct tape 20:10 marktraceur But too late, Ragnar left 20:10 Jordach mauvebic, use /me walks back out 20:10 * Jordach walks back out 20:10 * mauvebic thats how they do it 20:11 * mauvebic invades Gaul 20:11 * marktraceur pats mauvebic on the head 20:11 marktraceur Adorable :P 20:11 * kaeza1 is amused 20:11 Jordach mauvebic, its third person so thats should be knowsx 20:11 Jordach -x 20:12 * mauvebic frequently talks about himself in the third person 20:12 * kaeza1 thinks mauvebic doesn't yet get the grasp at the /me command 20:13 rubenwardy (8:11:06 PM) ***marktraceur pats mauvebic on the head 20:13 rubenwardy Simpleton head pat 20:14 * mauvebic eats rubenwardy with fava beans and a fine chianti 20:14 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 20:14 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/a6zpJ.png 20:14 Jordach there, some nice cel shaded art from gimp 20:14 kaeza1 Jordach: nice! 20:14 rubenwardy even as the creator of the Food Mod, i have no idea what fava beans and chianti's are 20:15 mauvebic me neither 20:15 mauvebic well wine yes 20:15 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Fix incorrect slabs to full block transformation by changing the modname to 'stairs' for all stairs and slabs 95cbfc50d8 2012-12-17T12:03:25-08:00 20:15 mauvebic beans no 20:16 rubenwardy I am terrible at writing commit messages 20:16 PilzAdam Jordach, add an alias for the stairs and slabs of your christmas mod 20:17 mauvebic you should read my docs lol youll feel better 20:17 Jordach please, not now 20:18 rubenwardy hmmm, https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest-forum/commit/1bdaef151bca6715cd8676a5bbfa2dba836799e6 20:18 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Alot of small changes ? 1bdaef1 ? rubenwardy/minetest-forum ? GitHub 20:18 PilzAdam Jordach, the commit above somehow breaks your stairs 20:18 PilzAdam an alias should work 20:19 thexyz rubenwardy: http://i.imgur.com/KbpGf.jpg 20:19 marktraceur thexyz: Wonderful. 20:19 mauvebic OT, anyone know if a crested lark is a bird? 20:20 thexyz marktraceur: sure, have you seen http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.ru/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html ? 20:20 moltenbot thexyz's link: Hyperbole and a Half: The Alot is Better Than You at Everything 20:20 rubenwardy Can someone tell him how to hide the console: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57739#p57739 20:20 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Help] somes problems (Page 1) - Bugs and Problems - Minetest Forums 20:21 Jordach rubenwardy, it would need recompiling 20:21 * john_minetest is back 20:22 thexyz rubenwardy: lolwtf, is he trying to steal minetest? 20:22 kaeza1 rubenwardy: done! 20:22 kaeza1 Is that enough? 20:23 rubenwardy yes, of course 20:23 rubenwardy simpletons 20:24 marktraceur Of course, thexyz! I read about alots a lot. 20:24 rubenwardy rubenwardy: lolwtf, is he trying to steal minetest? 20:24 rubenwardy it would seem so, lol 20:24 jordan4ibanez who's trying to steal minetest? lol 20:25 rubenwardy :22:09 PM) thexyz: rubenwardy: lolwtf, is he trying to steal minetest? 20:25 rubenwardy http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57739#p57739 20:25 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Help] somes problems (Page 1) - Bugs and Problems - Minetest Forums 20:25 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking' 20:25 rubenwardy !define your mum 20:25 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: you definition: the one or ones being addressed —used as the pronoun of the second person singular or plural in any grammatical relation except that of a possessive. 20:25 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, have you seen this? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commit/61e60724f6b0875d14dc7f185d914702eddb806e 20:25 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Use infinite stacks in creative mode and make the hand break anything ? 61e6072 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 20:25 PilzAdam I patched the engine so this works without a hack 20:26 jordan4ibanez f 20:26 mauvebic sounds nice 20:26 jordan4ibanez Finally! 20:26 mauvebic though dont break so fast that 3 nodes go when you want 1 to go ;) 20:26 PilzAdam its basically the MC creative mode 20:27 kaeza1 rubenwardy: what makes you mad about those posts is not that people omplain about it; it's that they don't accept a simple 'no' 20:27 PilzAdam mauvebic, its as fast as the mese pick 20:27 mauvebic cool 20:28 PilzAdam you can still open doors 20:28 jordan4ibanez Now if only we could make it so the player's hand section of their skin was the default ":" item xD 20:28 jordan4ibanez I'll have to try this in a bit 20:28 jordan4ibanez nice work pilzadam 20:28 mauvebic cant we attach 1/10 scale entity of the payer's wielding item? 20:29 mauvebic *wielded item 20:29 jordan4ibanez Wouldn't that be hackyish? 20:29 mauvebic for now 20:29 PilzAdam ask Taoki 20:30 mauvebic otherwise how do you include each node into the player texture? 20:30 mauvebic seems more expensive 20:31 PilzAdam texture1.png^texture2.png 20:31 PilzAdam or [combine: 20:31 PilzAdam ([combine is the way it should be) 20:31 PilzAdam (see signs mod) 20:31 mauvebic if the player is 3d, it should show the wielded item in 3d methinks 20:31 mauvebic ideally in the real shape 20:31 thexyz yeah, signs mod is totally awesome 20:32 PilzAdam isnt that by you? 20:32 KikaRz we need get 3D block on the player's hand 20:32 rubenwardy (8:27:21 PM) kaeza1: rubenwardy: what makes you mad about those posts is not that people omplain about it; it's that they don't accept a simple 'no' 20:32 rubenwardy YEAH 20:32 rubenwardy sorry, yeah 20:32 thexyz PilzAdam: yep 20:32 jojoa1997 vanessa idle? 20:32 KikaRz PilzAdam 20:32 KikaRz How i make the cocoa tree to grow up? 20:33 PilzAdam place the sapling in the light on grass 20:35 kaeza1 good night :) 20:35 jordan4ibanez why can't i make a double slab in the latest version? 20:35 kaeza1 oops 20:36 kaeza1 wrong channel 20:36 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, seems to be a bug in creative 20:36 kaeza1 sorry 20:36 jojoa1997 Is VanessaE idle? 20:41 kaeza1 OldCoder: you here? 20:42 Zephyrus1497 Wurcarivae 20:42 Zephyrus1497 DOnt kno wat that means read it online 20:43 jojoa1997 "[15:36] jordan4ibanez, seems to be a bug in creative" i heard that it was changed to be that way purposely 20:43 jordan4ibanez No, it seems to work in survival 20:44 kaeza1 jordan4ibanez: can you post the link to your fireworks? 20:44 jordan4ibanez Not yet, i'm putting the finishing touches 20:45 kaeza1 oh ok 20:45 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, I dont have any idea why it doesnt work in creative; If anyone can fix the bug I will bring the fix upstream 20:46 PilzAdam gtg; bye 20:46 jojoa1997 i like it blocks are meant to be blocks and slabs slabs 20:48 marktraceur jojoa1997: It would be weird if a block suddenly became a slab 20:48 marktraceur I mean, worst thing being that it would cause a huge discontinuity in the world 20:49 jojoa1997 i like it cause when i place slabs i dont need anything underneath anymore 20:50 marktraceur I've actually fallen through a slab before 20:50 marktraceur Don't know how it happened 20:51 OldCoder Hi 20:52 OldCoder kaeza1, I am now 20:52 kaeza1 o hai OldCoder! 20:52 * OldCoder nods 20:52 kaeza1 fixed the autoconnect thing on IRC 20:52 kaeza1 seems to work now 20:53 kaeza1 do you still have problems with it? 20:53 KikaRz I'm bored. 20:53 kaeza1 hey KikaRz! Y U Bored? 20:54 thexyz !g when i'm bored 20:54 Minetest-tan thexyz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6_MWVHZ4g 20:54 KikaRz !g when the bot ignores me 20:54 Minetest-tan KikaRz: Nope! 20:55 VanessaE OldCoder: msg.. 20:55 kaeza1 lol 20:55 VanessaE also, I'm back 20:55 kaeza1 wb V 20:55 VanessaE hey hey. 20:55 kaeza1 any updates to plantlife? 21:00 VanessaE nope, not recently. 21:00 VanessaE plantlife seems to be stable 21:01 VanessaE wait 21:01 VanessaE need to push my latest testing code 21:01 VanessaE done. 21:03 KikaRz lol 21:03 VanessaE kaeza1: pull when convenient. I think Plantlife is stable. I have seen no issues with it. 21:03 kaeza1 ... 21:03 VanessaE OldCoder: ditto ^^^ 21:03 kaeza1 k 21:04 OldCoder Hi 21:04 OldCoder john_minetest, replaces three older plant mods 21:04 iqualfragile hi 21:04 VanessaE john_minetest: a plats growing library and modpack, which contains the current flowers, jungle grass, and poison ivy 21:05 VanessaE plants* 21:06 thexyz john_minetest: this is the original one 21:06 kaeza1 VanessaE: cloning 21:07 kaeza1 now testing :) 21:09 * Jordach is heading off to bed now 21:22 mauvebic !up mauvebic.strangled.net 21:22 moltenbot Minetest server mauvebic.strangled.net:30000 UP 21:22 FreeFull !up somethingriajfi 21:22 moltenbot Minetest server somethingriajfi:30000 DOWN 21:22 FreeFull !up google.com 21:22 moltenbot Minetest server google.com:30000 DOWN 21:22 mauvebic do not abuse the bot 21:22 FreeFull Ok 21:22 mauvebic ty 21:23 Uberi hmm, does this work on other ports as well? 21:23 mauvebic yep just add it after a space 21:23 iqualfragile yeah, just add a portnumber 21:23 iqualfragile but its just for minetest-servers 21:23 Uberi !up api.minetest.net:80 21:23 moltenbot Minetest server api.minetest.net:80:30000 DOWN 21:24 Uberi oh OK thanks 21:24 iqualfragile !up api.minetest.net 80 21:24 moltenbot Minetest server api.minetest.net:80 DOWN 21:24 mauvebic im trying a modified ambience on my local, hopefully load times are better 21:25 FreeFull !up c55.me 21:25 moltenbot Minetest server c55.me:30000 DOWN 21:25 FreeFull I miss c55.me ): 21:25 mauvebic i think it had glass floors over lakes? yeah was pretty cool 21:26 Uberi man debugging microcontrollers is a pain in the butt 21:27 mauvebic wats the problem w them? 21:27 iqualfragile FreeFull: you should use !ping for that usecase 21:27 iqualfragile !ping c55.me 21:27 moltenbot 64 bytes from 188.64.1.157: icmp_req=1 ttl=55 time=51.8 ms 21:27 Uberi I found a bug in the microcontrollers with double updating and am trying to fix them now 21:28 Uberi it's breaking my animated display 21:28 FreeFull iqualfragile: there used to be a minetest server on c55.me 21:28 FreeFull I had a cool underwater mansion 21:28 iqualfragile mauvebic: no need for that, as loading stuff from the server will soon be using some cool curl-suff wich makes everything alot faster as it actualy uses the bandwidth the server has 21:28 iqualfragile FreeFull: oh, did not know that 21:29 iqualfragile i should use an old pc of mine to run an server 21:29 Uberi iqualfragile: is that remote_media thing going to add on-demand resource loading? 21:29 iqualfragile pentium 1 900 mhz 21:29 Uberi :O 21:29 FreeFull Minetest's map generation got better in performance recently 21:29 iqualfragile not shure bout that 21:29 FreeFull I miss the old terrain though 21:29 iqualfragile but it allows you to specify a way to get your recources 21:29 Uberi FreeFull: yep EaseCurve was improved 21:29 mauvebic iqualfragile you mean loading my map over the net wont take 5-10mins? 21:29 kaeza1 a pentium at 900MHz? where? 21:30 FreeFull The Old old terrain 21:30 iqualfragile mauvebic: jup 21:30 FreeFull Which used some inefficient algorithm or something but was beautiful 21:30 iqualfragile or… well, at least loading textures and songs and moddels and stuff 21:30 mauvebic well reducing the size of the media isn't the only thing i did 21:30 mauvebic at least lol 21:31 mauvebic alot of the sound clips repeat themselves, which you can accomplish with a trimmed version and a loop flag 21:31 mauvebic bandwith is bandwith lol 21:31 iqualfragile oh… ok, who did that? 21:31 Uberi mauvebic: are you going to publish your changes? get them merged in the main mod perhaps? 21:31 iqualfragile please publish a pull-request 21:31 mauvebic already did 21:31 marktraceur sumanah: mauvebic Actually, bandwidth is bandwidth. 21:31 Uberi ah neat 21:32 mauvebic in my modpack, in the OT thread 21:32 marktraceur Er, not sumanah. Just mauvebic. 21:32 mauvebic sorry 21:32 * mauvebic is french 21:32 marktraceur mauvebic: Nobody's perfect :) 21:32 mauvebic french cdn not french french 21:32 marktraceur Seriously though, "ne pas"? What's up with that. 21:33 * marktraceur is working on a lingustic stand-up routine 21:33 mauvebic well anyways oldcoder asked me to look for economies in CPU and bandwith so that i can do lol 21:34 mauvebic another thing i noticed is ambience plays the sounds directly to the user rather than positionally in relation to a type of node 21:34 mauvebic when i approach lava the sound abruptly changes from birds to rumbling earth lol 21:35 mauvebic so im gonna put some more work in and see if i cant achieve some balance between different areas 21:36 kizeren Hi HI 21:36 mauvebic howdy 21:36 mauvebic today's special is roasted pheasant (sp?) 21:36 kizeren Hm....never had pheasant. 21:36 kizeren Any good? 21:37 mauvebic yummy 21:37 * marktraceur wonders if OldCoder should discuss that with VanessaE thexyz sfan5|OFF etc. 21:37 VanessaE seems okay to me. 21:37 Uberi pheasant is delicious 21:38 mauvebic yeah he'\s a nice guy 21:38 VanessaE mauvebic: I hate your website btw :-) you need download links for all your old mods :-) 21:38 VanessaE and not some mega-modpack :-) 21:38 jojoa1997 i agree 21:38 kaeza1 agreed 21:38 kaeza1 hmmm 21:38 mauvebic half the old mods dont seem to work as well as they did 21:38 VanessaE ohhh 21:38 mauvebic as often happens when APIs evolve 21:38 VanessaE well fix them and link to them :-) 21:38 jojoa1997 still put the links in the forum 21:39 mauvebic ok 21:40 mauvebic first you want to ban my mods because of the ND, now im supposed to put them back? 21:40 mauvebic i dont mind either way, id just like a final decision 21:41 VanessaE don't make then -ND and no one will complain, but you forget that people still want to *use* them even if they won't modify them 21:41 Uberi what's wrong with ND? 21:41 Uberi it only applies if you republish it 21:42 mauvebic well you can understand why i wouldn't want to document my mods in a thread that might be removed, lost work and all 21:42 Uberi if you modify it on your own computer, you are free to use it, but not publish your derivative work 21:42 VanessaE mauvebic: no one's gonna delete threads 21:42 VanessaE but such mods probably will not make it to Mod Releases. 21:42 mauvebic then what's the point? 21:42 mauvebic if i have to play these games? 21:43 * VanessaE sighs 21:43 mauvebic i was told 3 months ago to chose whatever license i like, it was either sfan5 or thexyz, but it came from you guys 21:43 VanessaE post the mods, link to them, just don't expect them to be moved to Releases. 21:44 VanessaE well sure, 3 months ago you weren't talking about -ND 21:44 VanessaE (that I can remember) 21:44 Uberi ND isn't allowed in the Mod Releases forum? 21:44 VanessaE Uberi: generally no. 21:44 mauvebic no i was talking about people ripping off my mods while the threads weren't getting moved and i wasn't using ND then 21:44 VanessaE mauvebic: you were moving way too fast - practically a new mod every day 21:44 VanessaE maybe there just wasn't enough time to move them? 21:45 VanessaE as I recall I wasn't a forum mod at the time those mods were being posted. 21:45 mauvebic im talking about waiting weeks, not hours or days 21:45 mauvebic im not blaming you personally 21:45 mauvebic im just saying thats what happenned 21:45 VanessaE I know.. 21:45 VanessaE but remember how much trouble I had keeping up in HDX? :-) 21:45 Uberi VanessaE: that seems pretty strange, would you happen to know why? 21:45 mauvebic problem remains MM2 has two ND mods, so technically that thread shouldn't be in releases either 21:46 VanessaE Uberi: I don't remember the exact reasons so I can't quote, but my personal belief is that open source should be open to modification and redistribution. If you don't want modify-and-redistribute, what's the point of opening the source? 21:46 VanessaE may as well just compile your mods then. 21:48 Uberi VanessaE: oh, OK, I just didn't know the Mod Releases forum was for open source mods only 21:48 mauvebic all i know is this, i busted my ass to make multinode different the first time around 21:48 mauvebic and it took half a day for WE to get spheres and cylinders too 21:48 mauvebic having known, i wouldn't have bothered 21:48 Uberi yeah I agree that ND isn't in the spirit of open source 21:48 mauvebic and neither would have it 21:49 VanessaE Uberi: originally it wasn't that way, but it's gravitating toward it now. 21:49 jojoa1997 at least post the spotlight mod 21:49 jojoa1997 cause i want it 21:49 Uberi mauvebic: I coded the spheres code myself, it was based off of a feature suggestion by a WE user 21:49 mauvebic doesnt square with what temperest told me at the time 21:49 Uberi mauvebic: I am temperest... 21:49 mauvebic different nicks? odd lol 21:50 Uberi :P 21:50 mauvebic point is - if shits gonna get copied the same day, why would a guy like me bother at all? 21:50 jojoa1997 incognito mode using different nicks 21:50 VanessaE because that's how we learn? 21:50 mauvebic opensource - just because you can doesn't mean you always should 21:51 Uberi mauvebic: I didn't mean to copy your features, but it was a natural thing to add in a few primitives, you see 21:51 jojoa1997 then you can build off of them 21:51 VanessaE mauvebic: if flowers hadn't been WTFPL, I wouldn't have been able to write junglegrass or poison ivy, plantlife wouldn't exist, and homedecor would have been nothing but a wish 21:51 mauvebic i guess i just dont work that way 21:51 mauvebic im used to rewriting things from scratch more than once or twice 21:51 Uberi mauvebic: in any case I apologize if it made you feel ripped off 21:52 mauvebic like i told OldCoder, ND isn't permanent 21:52 mauvebic its there, to give me a month or so to be unique 21:52 mauvebic then ill drop it 21:52 jojoa1997 could you split it up at your homepage at least 21:52 mauvebic cant really 21:53 mauvebic its a modpack, they dont work seperately 21:53 VanessaE mauvebic: sometimes rewriting a mod is what works best, but not always 21:53 VanessaE the whole point of keeping the code is to build a library of stuff you can use and re-use 21:53 mauvebic microsoft hacks different bits together and look what that gives 21:53 VanessaE yeah well that's microsoft. 21:53 leo_rockway forcing rewrites of things that can be reused is not optimal 21:53 jojoa1997 an amaising pc 21:54 mauvebic id like to point out ND doesn't stop people from using the mod as a dependency or any of its functions 21:54 jojoa1997 amazing 21:54 VanessaE mauvebic: it does if you don't link to the files to download 21:54 Uberi mauvebic: Ambience-serverlite is much faster to load, works great 21:55 mauvebic when it comes to learning programming, the clipboard isn't always your friend 21:55 VanessaE fat lotta good it does to have abd release a mod if you won't link to the files so a person can actually download and use them. 21:55 mauvebic thanks Uberi 21:55 VanessaE and* 21:55 mauvebic thats WTFPL 21:55 mauvebic i wont link to them on the forums because you dont like ND 21:55 kizeren May I ask what ND is ? 21:55 mauvebic even linux can coexist with proprietary software, so whats you're problem? 21:56 leo_rockway kizeren: no derivatives 21:56 VanessaE NoDerivatives 21:56 kizeren Ahh thanks 21:56 jojoa1997 ? 21:56 kizeren I was thinking that but just had to ask. 21:56 VanessaE CreativeCommons-AttributionRequired-ShareAlike-NoDerivitives -> cc-by-sa-nd 21:56 mauvebic creative commons wouldn't bother if they didn't think there was merit 21:56 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4083 21:56 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: [1.0 - Beta 2] FireWorks Delux - Now With API (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 21:57 mauvebic but creative commons is about protecting art 21:57 Uberi some might argue code is a form of art 21:57 mauvebic not everyone thinks of programming as a public utility 21:57 leo_rockway mauvebic: there was actually debate to get rid of NC and ND for 4.0 21:57 kaeza1 o hai leo_rockway 21:58 jordan4ibanez Now there is an api for rockets and fireworks 21:58 kaeza1 jordan4ibanez: thanks! 21:58 jordan4ibanez Yep 21:58 mauvebic they can get rid of it but it wont invalidate whats already out there 21:58 jojoa1997 what is link to rockets 21:58 kizeren OldCoder: Can I get your textures and ambience now? Same that is on calin.sytes.net 30000 ? 21:58 leo_rockway kaeza1: \ø 21:58 jojoa1997 what is link to rockets 21:58 jordan4ibanez Also: Firework boxes work like chests, and you put the rockets in, and then they launch them with mesecon input. 21:58 jin_xi playing with RBAs treegen: http://i.imgur.com/dQclB.jpg 21:58 jin_xi this took a while... 21:58 Uberi jojoa1997: see jordan4ibanez's link 21:59 VanessaE jin_xi: WOW!! 21:59 jordan4ibanez I made it so it reads left to right, so you can fire off a very very complex fireworks show 21:59 Uberi holy moly 21:59 Uberi RBA made a treegen? 21:59 VanessaE looks like a banyan tree 21:59 VanessaE Uberi: L-Systems fractal-based 21:59 VanessaE entirely in Lua 22:00 jojoa1997 is there a mod? 22:00 leo_rockway I like that tree 22:00 jin_xi yes, read the log, he posted a link yesterday 22:00 Uberi wowee 22:00 jordan4ibanez That tree is crazy 22:00 jordan4ibanez does it take long to generate? 22:00 VanessaE that's *beautiful 22:00 jojoa1997 i don't stay signed in all the time 22:00 jin_xi i feared my laptop was gonna melt 22:01 VanessaE jin_xi: make the trunk taller and thicker and call it Home Tree :-) 22:01 VanessaE (Avatar reference) 22:01 Uberi :O 22:01 jojoa1997 not going on vanessa's server then 22:01 jin_xi jojoa1997: its more like a proof of concept 22:01 Uberi hey jordan4ibanez, those NPCs of yours are pretty neat 22:01 VanessaE I have the mod but definitely not the axiom for that tree :-) 22:01 jin_xi if something like that is going to be used it will need to be done using c++ 22:02 VanessaE jin_xi: RealBadAngel is coding it in C++ 22:02 jordan4ibanez Thank you 22:02 VanessaE we need to bug c55 to get it merged in when it's done. 22:02 kaeza Uberi: he also made this wallpaper: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/red_cliffs_wallpaper.png 22:02 jojoa1997 I hope it goes into the engine with 0.4.5 or whatever the next one is 22:02 Uberi whoa did someone make lens flares in MT? 22:02 VanessaE celeron55: you seeing this? don't sit on this, get that code merged. 22:03 VanessaE Uberi: gimp. 22:03 Uberi :/ 22:03 jin_xi VanessaE: http://pastebin.com/xYeXya8z 22:03 VanessaE OldCoder: he's opped already, jeez :-) 22:03 moltenbot jin_xi's link: [Lua] giant tree, takes looooong - Pastebin.com 22:03 kaeza Uberi: a bit gimped, yes, but the trees are from his treegen 22:03 marktraceur :) 22:03 VanessaE jin_xi: that's the axiom? wow, a lot smaller than I expected. 22:03 marktraceur VanessaE: We were trying to make it togglable, but no dice 22:03 jin_xi just put that at the end of treegens init.lua and get an experimental spawner 22:04 VanessaE kaeza: that screenshot/wallpaper reminds me: HDX got a new menu splash for the game :-) 22:04 jin_xi it heayily recurses 22:04 jin_xi it will take a while, only spawn one tree and be patient... 22:04 kaeza VanessaE: wow 22:04 Uberi VanessaE: is there a pull request yet? 22:04 VanessaE https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_512HD/menulogo.png 22:04 kaeza gonna check it :) 22:05 VanessaE Uberi: not yet. In a couple of days if I understand RBA right 22:05 kaeza VanessaE: +((1^32)-1) internetz 22:05 kaeza 2* 22:05 marktraceur kaeza: +0 internetz? :P 22:05 kaeza +((2^32)-1) internetz * 22:06 kaeza :P 22:06 jin_xi another view: http://i.imgur.com/ZagEy.jpg 22:06 Uberi ah OK thanks 22:06 kaeza I failed 22:06 kaeza :( 22:07 marktraceur kaeza: And for you, a +INT_MIN. 22:07 Uberi that is one sweet tree 22:07 kaeza :( 22:07 kaeza marktraceur: it's MIN_INT 22:07 kaeza ... 22:07 kaeza gotta study again C 22:07 VanessaE jin_xi: that is just seriously epic 22:07 Uberi #include 22:08 * kaeza is now checking limits.h 22:08 * marktraceur looked it up on enwiki, so 22:08 kaeza I failed again 22:08 kaeza -INT_MIN to me :( 22:08 * jin_xi wishes he had a better machine 22:09 marktraceur kaeza: No, +INT_MIN 22:09 marktraceur kaeza: INT_MIN is negative, so subtracting it would be good for you 22:09 kaeza damn it! fail again 22:09 kaeza according to jordan4ibanez, "-1 + -1 = 2" 22:09 marktraceur kaeza: However, subtracting INT_MAX would actually be subtracting INT_MIN if I understand it correctly 22:09 leo_rockway jin_xi: /me wishes he had a machine. 22:10 * leo_rockway 's laptop died last week. 22:10 marktraceur Then again, I could be wrong. I also have been out of C for a while. 22:10 kaeza !c 1 22:10 Minetest-tan 1 22:10 kaeza !c INT_MIN 22:10 Minetest-tan Sorry, no result. 22:10 kaeza does not understant consts 22:10 kaeza !c pi 22:10 Minetest-tan 3.14159265 22:11 kaeza yes it does 22:11 marktraceur kaeza: Is your computer broken? 22:11 Uberi just not the ones you want :P 22:11 OldCoder VanessaE, C55 didn't give me the flags to make it permanent. I was testing that. I've PMd C55 and I hope he responds. 22:11 VanessaE OldCoder: right, gotchya. 22:11 kaeza marktraceur: y? 22:11 jin_xi !c e^(i*pi) 22:11 Minetest-tan -1 22:11 marktraceur kaeza: Because you're using someone else's computer to do your computer's work 22:11 marktraceur kaeza: And anyway, it depends on your processor. So the bot's answer might not be useful to you. 22:12 kaeza I'm too lazy to press Alt+Tab :P 22:12 Uberi whoa it supports imaginary numbers 22:12 marktraceur Wow, impressive. 22:12 Uberi !c 4i^2 22:12 Minetest-tan -4 22:13 Uberi now that is neat 22:13 jin_xi !g e^(i*pi) 22:13 Minetest-tan jin_xi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_identity 22:13 marktraceur Please stop abusing the bots. 22:13 * marktraceur says, with his brand new @ sign 22:13 kaeza does it support fibbonacci? 22:13 Uberi what calculation engine is Minetest-tan using? 22:13 Minetest-tan 120 22:13 marktraceur kaeza: What on earth would that mean? 22:14 Uberi kaeza: you mean factorial? 22:14 jin_xi recursion you mean? 22:14 kaeza that 22:14 kaeza sorry 22:14 kaeza I suck at math and algorithms in general 22:15 marktraceur kaeza: Luckily, some server across the world can do your math for you. Good thing you have a computer, eh? Shame it doesn't have calculation abilities. 22:15 kaeza like the 10000000000000th digit of pi? 22:15 Uberi marktraceur: what if he's running an IRC client on his abacus? 22:15 * marktraceur suspects that grid computing for 6th grade math is a bit over-engineered 22:16 marktraceur Uberi: Then he has bigger problems than alt-tab, his device can't hold Unicode characters! 22:16 Uberi marktraceur: sure you can, just use UTF-8! 22:16 Uberi and get a bigger abacus 22:17 Uberi and duct tape a computer to it 22:17 kaeza hey! 22:17 * Uberi imagines a computer driving a robotic arm that manipulates an abacus 22:17 moltenbot john_minetest's link: UserFriendly Strip Comments 22:18 * Uberi imagines a camera mounted to the computer that performs computer vision to determine the abacus result 22:19 moltenbot john_minetest's link: UserFriendly Strip Comments 22:20 kaeza Uberi: http://answeritsa.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/first-smartphone.jpg?w=538 22:21 * OldCoder is going out to buy juice and cola. Back in a few minutes. 22:21 marktraceur kaeza: Even back then, they didn't have full keyboards. Sadness. 22:21 kaeza do you imagine the women doing duckfaces with that thing? 22:22 Uberi :O 22:22 kaeza lol 22:22 leo_rockway kaeza: that's actually the first thing that popped to my mind. On the mirror at the bathroom. 22:22 kaeza lol 22:23 VanessaE back 22:23 kaeza wb 22:24 VanessaE thanks 22:26 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Minetest - Fireworks [1.0] - YouTube 22:27 kaeza1 also: the future of handhelds: http://camposcarles.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/ipad3_humor.jpg?w=595 22:28 marktraceur kaeza: Soon it will be in parks, and children will use it to play chess together 22:28 VanessaE kaeza1: also known as Microsoft Surface :-) 22:29 VanessaE they were going after something very much like that actually 22:29 marktraceur Is that what that shitty thing is? A big ol' touch screen? 22:29 VanessaE and about that size too if I recall correctly 22:29 VanessaE marktraceur: I think so. lame, no? 22:29 marktraceur Ha, /me remembers the AOL kids only thing 22:30 marktraceur VanessaE: Geez. I don't get that. 22:30 jojoa1997 i would only be cool if you had a mouse 22:31 VanessaE AOL aka America Offline aka AO-Hell 22:31 jojoa1997 my server home is not 22:31 jojoa1997 ao 22:33 iqualfragile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wta7K7hG__I what server is this on? 22:33 moltenbot iqualfragile's link: Minetest (LATEST) - So many new things!! - YouTube 22:35 kaeza1 back 22:35 kaeza1 VanessaE: lol 22:36 kaeza1 john_minetest: I only use Windows for gaming. and didn't switch to 8 22:37 kaeza1 yup 22:37 kaeza1 I mostly use Wine for windows apps now 22:37 kaeza1 s/apps/applications/ 22:38 kaeza1 when some game doesn't work on Wine, I use Win 7 22:38 kaeza1 has steam for linux been launched? 22:39 Uberi kaeza1: open beta this week 22:39 kaeza1 hmmm 22:39 Uberi kaeza1: also, it's $10 :) 22:39 kaeza1 I prefer desura for now 22:39 NakedFury $9.99 Ace of Spades 22:39 kaeza1 Isn't AOS fre? 22:39 kaeza1 free* 22:40 marktraceur kaeza1: No longer! 22:40 marktraceur Or rather, it never was 22:40 kaeza1 I never actually played 22:40 kaeza1 AOS 22:40 marktraceur There was a free one that got posted here 22:40 kaeza1 couldn't get it to work either in Wine or native Windows 22:40 marktraceur https://github.com/iamgreaser/buldthensnip 22:40 moltenbot marktraceur's link: iamgreaser/buldthensnip ? GitHub 22:40 Uberi the beta is still available, though 22:41 Uberi it's free, of course 22:41 Uberi but not open source 22:42 kaeza1 I still like minetest though 22:42 marktraceur And not free 22:42 Uberi marktraceur: it is free, in the gratis sense 22:42 kaeza1 It would be good if someone provided a "Free for All" PVP server 22:42 Uberi john_minetest: yeah I was working on that but didn't have time for it recently 22:42 kaeza1 with no ptotection bullshit 22:43 kaeza1 protection* 22:43 Uberi kaeza1: I want a game that you can just start up and start playing, and AoS is great at this :) 22:43 kaeza1 john_minetest: link plz 22:43 Uberi no need to level, no need to build characters, etc. 22:43 kaeza1 Uberi: yes I know what you mean 22:44 kaeza1 in CS 1.6 I just type 1 (Terrorists) and 2 (Leet Crew) and ready! 22:44 marktraceur That's funny, I want exactly the opposite. But haven't found one. 22:44 iqualfragile thexyz: again: please split up your mods into different repositorys 22:44 Uberi well to each our own, I guess 22:44 kaeza1 most of tmy friends take half an hour to select 22:45 Uberi start game, have some fun for whatever amount of free time you've managed to scrounge, close game 22:45 kaeza1 john_minetest: you said there was an AOS inspired game for MT 22:45 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Ace of Minetest. GAMEMODE FOR LATEST BUILD. (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 22:45 kaeza1 john_minetest: thx :) 22:46 NekoGloop ah, snickerdoodles. :3 22:46 kaeza1 hello Neko :3 22:46 Uberi neato 22:46 marktraceur NekoGloop: Jealous! I won't have tasty holiday cookies for some time now. 22:46 kaeza1 ugh. mediafire 22:46 NekoGloop and also, MC griefing is fun! :D 22:48 marktraceur Ah, holiday cheer. Drinking cider, chomping on cookies, destroying others' hard work. The season of giving. 22:48 NekoGloop the season of griefin' 22:48 kaeza1 +1 for Cider 22:49 * kaeza1 wants a cold alcoholic beverage of any kind 22:49 marktraceur Deck the halls with buckets of lava, trollolololol, olololol 22:49 NekoGloop lol no, not lava 22:49 jin_xi lol 22:49 NekoGloop tnt 22:49 kaeza1 wow 22:50 Uberi Hardcore Mese TNT 22:50 marktraceur 'tis the season to play games running on Java, trollolololol, olololol 22:50 NekoGloop and bedrock, bedrock looks lovely on your treasured diamond block wall. 22:50 NekoGloop also hanging on doors, bedrock looks awesome. 22:50 marktraceur Dawn will come and show the wreckage, trollolol, trollolol, trollolol 22:50 Uberi how on earth are you getting bedrock in survival 22:50 NakedFury such an awesome song 22:51 NekoGloop Uberi: TMI. 22:51 NekoGloop tis works for servers with no protection 22:52 kaeza1 NekoGloop: http://www.explosm.net/comics/2143/ 22:52 moltenbot kaeza1's link: Cyanide & Happiness #2143 - Explosm.net 22:52 kaeza1 you just reminded me :) 22:53 iqualfragile wer ist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q7ewQ0VCD4 22:53 moltenbot iqualfragile's link: [GERMAN] Let's Play Minetest #000 Vorbesprechung - YouTube 22:54 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7s7dmYoF8E 22:54 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Abstract Nonsense - Kagene Rei - YouTube 22:54 NekoGloop NOW it has unignored me 22:54 NekoGloop dafuq is up with you, moltenbot 22:56 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui9AAvEqae0 22:56 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?ENGLISH COVER?Adult's Toy???????????????? - YouTube 22:59 VanessaE hey hey NekoGloop. 22:59 NekoGloop wat 22:59 VanessaE um...hi? 22:59 * VanessaE puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head 22:59 * NekoGloop purrs 23:15 kaeza1 VanessaE: do you know a bit about git? 23:16 kaeza1 hello davidpace 23:16 kaeza1 hello Octupus 23:16 Octupus Hola 23:16 davidpace Hello kaeza1 23:16 kaeza1 Todo bien? 23:17 Octupus hi kaeza1 23:17 kaeza1 hi 23:17 kaeza1 what's up? 23:17 Octupus si todo es bien 23:17 kaeza1 fail 23:17 kaeza1 :P 23:17 kaeza1 nvm 23:17 Octupus todo es bien 23:18 kaeza1 "todo está bien" or simply "todo bien!" 23:18 kaeza1 nvm 23:18 Octupus i get lag :l 23:19 marktraceur Octupus: Lag happens, but sorry to hear it. 23:19 iqualfragile yeah, well, good night 23:19 Octupus :) 23:20 VanessaE kaeza1: only enough to use it but not really much detail 23:20 kaeza1 oh ok 23:20 Octupus so how every1 doinh 23:20 kaeza1 just wanted to know if you need the entire branch to make a pull request 23:20 Octupus brb 23:21 kaeza1 i.e: do I need to clone the entire minetest source if I want to make a pull request to change one single file? 23:22 marktraceur kaeza1: Yup 23:22 kaeza1 maybe I should just make a diff? 23:22 kaeza1 and send it to someone? 23:22 NekoGloop maybe you shouldnt bother? 23:22 Octupus Hi 23:22 Octupus Better :D 23:23 kaeza1 wb 23:23 marktraceur Octupus: What changed? :) 23:23 NekoGloop ikr 23:23 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qYlJD96euc 23:23 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist? x [Ashe] Bad Apple! (English) + Lyric - YouTube 23:23 Octupus idk marktraceur it just got better after i reset the client 23:23 marktraceur kaeza1: You could make a diff, but it would be roughly the same effect, you'd still need to diff against something 23:23 marktraceur Oh, K 23:24 marktraceur NekoGloop: Could you keep the video postings to a minimum? 23:24 kaeza1 marktraceur: I have the original, but do I need to upload the entire branch? 23:24 marktraceur kaeza1: Do you have a git repository? 23:24 Octupus NekoGloop, my bestest trolling buddy :D 23:24 marktraceur Or just files? 23:24 NekoGloop marktraceur: could you respect that this is the general minetest chat? 23:24 kaeza1 I can make a repo 23:25 NekoGloop == not geared toward development or modmaking 23:25 marktraceur NekoGloop: I do, and I'm happy you're here, but please be conservative. I'm not asking for zero, just few :) 23:25 kaeza1 but uploading the entire minetest to it seems like overkill 23:25 marktraceur kaeza1: No no 23:25 NekoGloop Octupus: MC griefing, tis fun, no? 23:25 marktraceur kaeza1: Do you have, locally, a git repository? 23:25 kaeza1 yes 23:25 marktraceur kaeza1: You can use git format-patch, then, if you want. 23:25 marktraceur kaeza1: Do you have a fork on github? 23:25 Octupus NekoGloop, tisk tisk tisk cracked or paid i wanna grief a poor MC person :D 23:26 NekoGloop paid 23:26 kaeza1 no 23:26 jin_xi *- 23:26 Octupus :l 23:26 Octupus NekoGloop, IM POOR 23:26 Octupus joke :) 23:26 NekoGloop simply so Forge doesnt bite my ass 23:26 jin_xi sorry, my cat* is leaning on my keyboard* 23:26 kaeza1 I just want to give it a shot at documenting the texture transformations 23:26 marktraceur kaeza1: Make one, it will be worth it. Their servers will run the commands to set it up, then you can upload a tiny patch (basically a patch file, but in git format) to make your changes to that repo. 23:26 jin_xi * 23:26 NekoGloop jin_xi: no I'm not 23:26 kaeza1 did anyone do that already? 23:27 Octupus Neko that mod on #minecraft hates ppl with cracked clients XD 23:27 NekoGloop Octupus: enchilado? 23:27 Octupus Yep 23:27 Octupus XD 23:27 marktraceur kaeza1: Everyone's done that already. It's the primary method for submitting changes to a project. 23:27 NekoGloop Octupus: Helzibah has banned like 5 of my IP's by now 23:27 kaeza1 marktraceur: I mean, document the texture transforms in tile.cpp 23:28 kaeza1 and put them in lua_api.txt 23:28 marktraceur Sounds good 23:28 Octupus NekoGloop, cracked client ehh :D 23:28 kaeza1 I may do it 23:28 NekoGloop Octupus: nope. mods. 23:28 NekoGloop #minecraft hates mods. 23:28 Octupus O lolz 23:28 * marktraceur wonders if NekoGloop is going to suggest that Minecraft chatter belongs in #minetest 23:28 kaeza1 brb 23:29 NekoGloop marktraceur: well i can't talk about it in the respective channel 23:29 NekoGloop I'm out of IP's 23:29 Octupus marktraceur, calm down in #minetest you can talk about anything calm DOWN :) 23:29 NekoGloop :D 23:29 marktraceur NekoGloop: That's not my problem, you shouldn't piss people off in _any_ channel. 23:29 NekoGloop marktraceur: what, you think i broke a rule of some kind? 23:29 marktraceur Again, happy to have you here, just keep it tame and on-topic as much as you can 23:29 NekoGloop no, i was hate banned for liking to use mods. 23:30 marktraceur NekoGloop: No. The rules are few and very loose, but be careful :) 23:30 Octupus so bestest trolling buddy made any trolling maps lately 23:30 NekoGloop nope 23:30 * kaeza thinks NekoGloop should read RFC 1855 23:31 NekoGloop what the hell is that 23:31 kaeza NekoGloop: https://www.google.com.uy/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Frfc%2Frfc1855.txt&ei=HavPUJrsEpLq0QG_pICQCA&usg=AFQjCNHJDaCrMM1WEvpUgffCQn1l1gYrTQ&bvm=bv.1355325884,d.dmQ 23:31 marktraceur Gorram bots in this channel can't link an RFC? geez. 23:31 kaeza sorry 23:31 kaeza marktraceur: can they do it? 23:31 marktraceur http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 23:31 moltenbot marktraceur's link: RFC 1855 - Netiquette Guidelines 23:32 kaeza !g rfc 1855 23:32 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt 23:32 NekoGloop tl;dr: i didnt break any rules or guildlines 23:34 marktraceur NekoGloop: Not in that list, but in this channel we also try to stay on-topic. 23:34 Octupus im going to make a race :D 23:34 kaeza Octupus: a race? 23:34 kaeza I want elves :P 23:34 Octupus marktraceur, i dont think there was a rule for it 23:34 Octupus kaeza, im making a map 23:35 marktraceur Octupus: I'm telling you now, if there's too much off-topic chatter, it will stop. 23:35 Octupus marktraceur, well good for you :) 23:35 NekoGloop inb4 ban 23:35 Octupus NekoGloop,DIGGY DIGGY HOLE 23:35 kaeza People! People... Please /join #off-topic 23:36 VanessaE come on guys, let's relax... 23:36 Octupus Hi VanessaE 23:36 VanessaE hi 23:38 Octupus VanessaE,im making a competition map any suggestion 23:38 VanessaE not really, sorry 23:38 kaeza Octupus: interesting 23:38 kaeza but later maybe 23:38 Octupus ok 23:38 Octupus first challenge is underground 23:39 NekoGloop *crash* 23:39 NekoGloop WHO BROKE THAT LINK 23:40 NekoGloop D< 23:40 marktraceur NekoGloop: What? 23:40 NekoGloop nothing 23:43 Octupus Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 23:43 Octupus i need moreblocks for super duper glowglass :D 23:44 kaeza Octupus: consider also maptools 23:44 davidpace_ Someone please try to join the server I just made please? Port:30000 Address: 71.57.8.234 23:44 davidpace_ On 0.4.4 23:44 kaeza for unbreakable things and player/build clip 23:44 VanessaE davidpace_: don't wanna play on mine anymore? :( 23:44 davidpace_ The Latest 23:45 davidpace_ I'm just trying to see if I can create my own. I won't be able to run it 24/7. And yes I will play on your server vanessa 23:45 VanessaE ok 23:46 VanessaE davidpace_: it does not connect. 23:46 davidpace_ Aww, what does it say? 23:46 davidpace_ Nothing? 23:46 Octupus VanessaE,your taking my players :( 23:46 VanessaE nothing, it just sits there waiting. 23:46 Octupus just kidding :) 23:46 VanessaE Octupus: sowwy :) 23:46 davidpace_ Oh okay. maybe I did the port forwarding wrong :( 23:48 VanessaE davidpace_, Octupus: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2012172012%20-%2003:15:04%20AM.png 23:48 VanessaE my new menu splash :-) 23:48 NekoGloop oh, does that actually work now? 23:48 VanessaE NekoGloop: yeah as long as the image is ~320x240 or so 23:49 Octupus VanessaE, NICE 23:49 VanessaE and that the logo part at the bottom is <200 pixels wide 23:49 VanessaE otherwise it won't fit a 1280x1024 screen or the default window, respectively. 23:49 davidpace_ Nice, VanessaE 23:50 NekoGloop VanessaE: 8bit adder detected 23:50 VanessaE NekoGloop: heh 23:50 marktraceur A snake!? 23:50 * marktraceur jumps on table 23:50 VanessaE haha 23:50 NekoGloop lol someone on the network is actually called "snake" 23:52 kaeza my eyes hurt from looking at `tile.cpp' 23:53 NekoGloop seems legit 23:53 marktraceur kaeza: Maybe go outside for a while? 23:55 kaeza I hate // C++ style comments 23:56 kaeza I /* prefer this all the way */ 23:56 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCQY22Qc1bc be happy it's an english one. =w= 23:56 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: [Full] ?Matryoshka? - English - YouTube 23:56 mauvebic its been snowing here so much lately, i added a a pure snow node lol 23:57 mauvebic should look rather fabulous on mountain peaks :D 23:57 Octupus VanessaE,do u use a chest like in 0.4.3 23:58 Octupus NVM 23:59 VanessaE eh? 23:59 VanessaE kaeza: C++ makes my eyes bleed. 23:59 VanessaE :-)