Time Nick Message 00:07 OldCoder Dogzilla131, anunakki wb 00:09 Octupus hi Dogzilla131 00:09 jordan4ibanez I got freepcgamers to review minetest 00:09 Uberi awesome! 00:09 OldCoder Wait 00:09 Dogzilla131 Hi octu 00:09 OldCoder Does this mean the game is Notable now? 00:09 OldCoder Restart the Wikipedia article 00:09 jordan4ibanez yes 00:09 OldCoder Who wishes to take a stab at that? 00:10 OldCoder It means Deletionist Debates again 00:11 VanessaE please do 00:11 OldCoder VanessaE, you up for this? 00:11 VanessaE take those bastards on. 00:11 OldCoder k 00:11 VanessaE me? no. I gave up on contributing to wikipedia. 00:11 VanessaE hey jin 00:19 jordan4ibanez i got a yobo fc twin and it is AWESOME 00:21 Octupus alright studied alot of lines on css time to deal with minetest stuf 00:22 Octupus VanessaE,i have opened a fb page for mt awhile ago and it has now 11 likes :l 00:22 VanessaE cool 00:22 Octupus XD 00:23 Octupus Any1 that wants to contribute a like to the FaceBook Page of Minetest please do so this game needs to become worldwide :D 00:23 Uberi got a link? 00:25 Octupus Hold on 00:26 Uberi oh will have to wait until after food 00:28 Octupus Uberi|Away, when u get back here ya go :D http://www.facebook.com/pages/MineTest/345371275551444 00:28 moltenbot Octupus's link: Update Your Browser | Facebook 00:28 mauvebic lol 00:28 Octupus Any1 else who wants to contribute a like there is the link above 00:28 jin_xi update your browser man 00:28 mauvebic i thought bots faked useragents 00:29 Octupus WOW as soon as i sent that link i got a like 00:29 mauvebic must be all the flash and javascript crap on fb lol 00:29 Octupus SOMETHING MAGICAL 00:29 jin_xi probably a fake like anyway 00:30 Octupus how is it fake :l 00:30 kizeren Liked! 00:31 Octupus thank you kizeren 00:32 kizeren Anyone have a survival server up and going? The one I frequent seems to down for the count.... 00:32 Octupus kizeren,i do 00:33 kizeren May I? 00:33 Octupus only down for updates and back ups,about 30 mins everyday 00:33 kizeren Whats the addy if I may join it...? 00:33 Octupus to save the world just incase of *the bad people* 00:34 Octupus minetest.org 30004 00:35 kizeren Interesting......No connect. 00:35 Octupus address is minetest.org 00:35 Octupus port is 30004 00:35 kizeren Yep...got that just sits here "Connecting to server" ..... 00:36 Octupus probably down for updates 00:36 Dogzilla131 he's right octu 00:36 kizeren Calinous down that is the one I camp out on.... 00:38 Octupus RealBadAngel,HIIII 00:43 VanessaE hey RBA 00:46 Octupus hi jordan4ibanez 00:47 jordan4ibanez hi doctor octopus 00:47 Octupus :) 00:48 Octupus Dogzilla131,kizeren,if i were u guys i would update to 4.4 so u can play on the server 00:48 kizeren I am on 4.4 00:48 Dogzilla131 already did 00:48 Octupus well no harm done :) 00:48 kizeren Well to be honest mine says 0.4.4-dev 00:49 jordan4ibanez I'm playing tf2 natively on linux lol 00:50 kizeren tf2? 00:50 marktraceur Natively? 00:50 marktraceur (damn it, nobody carried it through) 00:51 marktraceur Octupus, kizeren, 0.4.4. Not 4.4. 00:51 Octupus marktraceur, i always forget the 0 :) 00:52 kizeren :) 00:53 jordan4ibanez yes it's natively 00:53 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Is this new? 00:54 jordan4ibanez look up steam for linux 00:54 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Well, I'm not all that interested unless it's free 00:54 jordan4ibanez It's free 00:54 jordan4ibanez But only 32 bit 00:54 jordan4ibanez also http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/142896-valve-confirms-steam-box-coming-in-2013-says-it-will-compete-with-next-gen-consoles 00:54 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: What license? 00:54 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Valve confirms Steam Box coming in 2013, says it will compete with next-gen consoles | ExtremeTech 00:55 jordan4ibanez I have no idea, it's free to play, closed beta, look into the liscense for steam yourself lol 00:55 marktraceur Well, you said it was free 00:55 marktraceur So you must have some idea of the license 00:55 jordan4ibanez It's free, go get it at steam for linux, look up steam for linux on google AND GO GET IT 00:55 Octupus Maybe marktraceur a GPL 00:56 Octupus Wb Uberi 00:56 Uberi o/ 00:56 Octupus I sent a link above 00:56 Uberi ah thanks 00:57 Uberi 13 likes now 00:57 Octupus :) 00:57 Octupus i need 17 more 00:57 Octupus TEll your friends 00:58 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: I cannot find any information on the license, nor a download link, nor source code 00:58 Uberi marktraceur: it's proprietary, obviously 00:58 Uberi and it's in closed beta, with open beta coming next week 00:58 marktraceur Oh. So it's not free. 00:58 Uberi it is, in the other sense of the word 00:58 marktraceur Well 00:59 Uberi free as in beer is still free, you know 00:59 marktraceur "Free of cost" is sort of silly to truncate, when the actual meaning of "free" is in such widespread use in the software community 00:59 Uberi marktraceur: not so in the general populace 00:59 marktraceur Uberi: Welcome to IRC, we aren't exactly the general populace.... 01:00 Uberi marktraceur: you've got a point there 01:00 Uberi but using the terms free and libre is totally unambiguous 01:01 marktraceur Uberi: Well, using the terms "gratuis" and "libre" would be, but if I only see you use "free" and "libre" I could still assume you mean the same thing by both. And I usually do. 01:02 Uberi eh, OK 01:04 sema4_ weird, i am building a nodebox with facedir, and when placed in one direction, it renders improperly. 01:04 sema4_ but when placed in the other 3 directions it renders correctly 01:04 OldCoder 17:03:31: INFO[main]: ** Server received: peer_id=2, 01:04 OldCoder size=13, data=Hello World!M 01:05 OldCoder 17:03:31: INFO[main]: Sending data (size=30000): 01:05 OldCoder 0000 0000 0101 0101 0202 0202 0303 0303 0404 0404...M 01:05 OldCoder 17:03:31: INFO[main]: ** running client.Receive()M 01:05 OldCoder 17:03:31: INFO[main]: ** Client received: peer_id=1, size=30000M 01:05 OldCoder 17:03:31: INFO[main]: Received data (size=30000): 01:05 OldCoder 0000 0000 0101 0101 0202 0202 0303 0303 0404 0404...M 01:05 OldCoder 17:03:32: ERROR[main]: run_tests(): 1 / 12 tests failed.M 01:05 OldCoder 17:03:32: ERROR[main]: run_tests() aborting.M 01:05 OldCoder Hmm 01:05 OldCoder Sorry. That was too long. 01:05 OldCoder Is anybody able to comment on the above? 01:05 Uberi OldCoder: a built in test failed for some reason 01:05 Uberi seemingly the first one 01:05 OldCoder Yes; that is clear 01:05 Uberi one moment, lemme check the source 01:06 jordan4ibanez moo 01:07 Uberi actually it doesn't say which test failed 01:07 Uberi hmm 01:07 Uberi one of them anyways: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/test.cpp 01:07 moltenbot Uberi's link: minetest/src/test.cpp at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 01:07 OldCoder Checking things here too 01:07 OldCoder Test #1 01:08 OldCoder No 01:08 OldCoder You are correct 01:08 Uberi OldCoder: well it does print out a message at each test run 01:08 OldCoder Yes 01:08 OldCoder TestConnection 01:08 Uberi wait no I see it now 01:09 Uberi well seems like it's having trouble receiving data from the client: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/test.cpp#L1439 01:09 moltenbot Uberi's link: minetest/src/test.cpp at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 01:10 OldCoder The client is part of the same code; this is simply a Win32 build of the master 01:10 OldCoder I will fiddle with it 01:10 Octupus_ VanessaE, there was 1 last ultimate test 01:11 VanessaE Sorry guys, emergency server restart 01:11 Octupus_ kay 01:11 VanessaE (already done) 01:11 Octupus_ lets see if lava can with stand the protection 01:12 Octupus_ put some stone infron of the wood 01:12 Octupus_ i got a mod idea any1 wanna hear it 01:12 OldCoder sure 01:13 Octupus_ when lavatouches lava its burn so everytime something wooden burn its turns into wooden shards 01:13 Octupus_ *something wooden 01:13 Octupus_ and if its 1 block away from lava its starts to melt 01:14 Octupus_ *another mod idea* 01:15 Octupus_ if a house doesnt have 4 stilts to keepit high it falls to the ground the higher the house the more stilts 01:16 marktraceur Octupus_: So....gravity? 01:16 Octupus_ yes 01:17 jordan4ibanez http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410\ 01:17 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Steam Community :: Steam for Linux 01:18 kizeren still no minetest.org 30004..... 01:18 Octupus_ kize it is updating to 30004 which may take awhile 01:18 Octupus_ *not 30004 to 0.4.4 01:19 sema4_ oh interesting, it had to do with my nodebox dimensions being flipped (1st point was upper coord, should have been lower coord) 01:20 kizeren Ahhhh okay. Wander if the other one I am playing is doing the same. 01:21 jordan4ibanez I am making pigs for minetest :) 01:22 kizeren What animals do you have so far? 01:22 jordan4ibanez Well this pig is just a body, this will be my test for animals 01:22 kizeren Ahhhh 01:24 kizeren I saw the video of the NPC's you done. Awesome! 01:26 jordan4ibanez Thanks! 01:30 kizeren Do you have any plans in mine for them? 01:31 kizeren I was thinking something like an adventure map....following preprogrammed route or something. 01:39 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Is the NPC mod a library, or do you just have a bunch of code adding preprogrammed NPCs that you envisioned? 01:40 jordan4ibanez a mod 01:40 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Ask it a different way: Could we put it in minetest_game, and have people build mods around it? 01:40 jordan4ibanez lol no 01:40 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Stuff like mods.register_mod( 'animals:squirrel' .... 01:40 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Well, what's the license? 01:40 VanessaE c55 did indicate interest in a generic mob API/library... 01:40 jordan4ibanez wtfpl 01:40 marktraceur Exactly 01:40 jordan4ibanez wtfyw 01:41 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: I may swing through it and see if I can't genericize it 01:41 jordan4ibanez It's heavily in development 01:41 marktraceur (another instance of "because I'M NOT BUSY ENOUGH") 01:41 VanessaE heh 01:42 marktraceur I still have huge swaths of underground city to build, too 01:42 marktraceur My weekend is looking very full 01:42 jordan4ibanez Please don't 01:42 VanessaE build it on my server :-) 01:42 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: What? 01:42 jordan4ibanez I'm heavily creating updates 01:42 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Well, I can try to rebase your changes as I go 01:43 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: I'd strongly suggest refactoring before you go any further, it will really help things in the long run 01:43 jordan4ibanez I'd rather do it all myself, once i get a couple mobs i like, then i will create an api 01:43 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Too bad, you licensed it under WTFPL, wrong license if you want to stop me from doing things 01:43 jordan4ibanez I think it is fine for now lol 01:44 OldCoder NEWS: Minetest 0.4.4 Windows client builds and runs fine! 01:44 * OldCoder continues MT 0.4.4 work 01:44 VanessaE cool, OldCoder 01:44 mauvebic im makin' mountains (mouhahaha) 01:45 jordan4ibanez Fine, liscense is apache 2.0 01:45 mauvebic what are those underground elves called? 01:45 mauvebic dwarves 01:46 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: I downloaded it as WTFPL, so I'll be relicensing it as GPLv3 and writing a more generic implementation sometime this weekend 01:46 jordan4ibanez Don't 01:46 jordan4ibanez I'm asking you kindly 01:46 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: You haven't given me any real reason not to 01:46 mauvebic let him finish it himself 01:47 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: I'm glad you want to work on it, that's great, but if you want to tie down your code I'm going to download it and write a better version 01:47 jordan4ibanez no offense mark, but you're kinda being a dick 01:47 marktraceur I'm OK with that, it will lead to a useful library 01:47 FreeFull I think tthat something being licensed under the WTFPL might still not give other people the right to relicense 01:47 VanessaE marktraceur: I got a better idea - take on PilzAdam's rework of thexyz's signs mod - give it multiple font sizes (I provided some on the forum thread) and make it respect node_ownership :-) 01:47 VanessaE Ijust had to yank it our of my server because of a security issue with it 01:47 VanessaE :( 01:48 marktraceur VanessaE: Nah, I like this idea better, NPCs are a good idea 01:48 jordan4ibanez I'm telling you, the next update will include +400-500 lines of code, please, at least wait 01:49 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: When will it be out, if you don't mind me asking? 01:49 jordan4ibanez in 4-10 days 01:50 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Can I help you push that a bit faster, maybe? I'm a pretty fast worker when it comes to this stuff, and it would be useful to have a solid base. 01:50 * marktraceur is amused, actually, Apache allows relicensing as well 01:52 mauvebic http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/27997415.jpg 01:55 Uberi GPLv3 is good for this purpose if you don't want relicensing 01:55 Uberi I recommend the AGPLv3 since the GPLv3 has a loophole in the particular case of MineTest 01:56 FreeFull What's the loophole? 01:56 Uberi FreeFull: well, mods are run on the server 01:57 Uberi it's not considered distribution 01:57 Uberi therefore, you do not need to give out the source 01:57 Uberi well it's a loophole to me because giving out the source is fundemental to the concept of the GPL, IMO 01:57 klunk bye peopk 01:57 Uberi bye 01:57 OldCoder Uberi, Problem before was probably compiler flags. I recommend people use -O2 and not -O3 Goodbye klunk 01:57 klunk :-)) *people 02:00 jordan4ibanez I'm not looking for loop holes, i'm just looking to release the api, and the mods using the api itself, but the code is just a baby right now 02:01 Uberi yes we should respect jordan4ibanez's wishes to release it how he wants to 02:02 Uberi hey NekoGloop 02:02 VanessaE evening NekoGloop 02:02 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Uberi's head 02:02 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on VanessaE's head 02:03 Uberi :O 02:04 * VanessaE sniggles with the kitten 02:04 VanessaE snuggles too. 02:06 * NekoGloop sets down the box of -1 nekogloop:kitten 02:06 Uberi /giveme air 99 02:06 * VanessaE looks at the kittles 02:07 VanessaE kittens* 02:07 * Uberi places air on NekoGloop 02:07 VanessaE hm, you're still using the old 2d mobs for these. 02:07 * Uberi builds a house of air around NekoGloop 02:07 VanessaE nice nodebox defs on the box itself, but those kitten sprites gotta go :-) 02:07 NekoGloop That's a known bug 02:07 NekoGloop Will be fixed in version 1.01 02:09 NekoGloop 0.01, even 02:10 VanessaE Uberi: you hacker, you. 02:11 Uberi :P 02:11 * NekoGloop puts default:cloud around Uberi 02:12 Uberi /giveme : 99 02:12 * VanessaE grants Uberi worldedit privilege 02:12 Uberi hey I wonder if that would work 02:12 * NekoGloop puts nekogloop:kitten around Uberi =3= 02:12 VanessaE no, it does not. 02:12 Uberi :( 02:12 * Uberi just wanted some extra hands 02:12 VanessaE "Server: -!- error: cannot give an unknown item" 02:14 NekoGloop nekogloop:kitten is given an exception on dig event to replace itself and the 3x3 area around it with default:lava_source. 02:14 Uberi :O 02:14 NekoGloop So no killing kittens =w= 02:14 VanessaE //replace nekogloop:kitten air 02:14 VanessaE :-) 02:14 Uberi //replace stone tnt:tnt 02:15 Uberi //replace air tnt:tnt 02:15 NekoGloop //replace grass fire:basic_flame 02:15 NekoGloop Kaboom. 02:15 Uberi :P 02:15 Uberi you mean dirt_with_grass 02:16 NekoGloop Whatever 02:16 NekoGloop //replace dirt_with_grass fire:basic_flame 02:16 NekoGloop //replace dirt fire:basic_flame 02:16 NekoGloop Boom. 02:17 NekoGloop //replace air nekogloop:kitten 02:17 NekoGloop Yes, i went there. 02:18 NekoGloop My army of kittens! MEOW WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT!!! 02:19 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui9AAvEqae0 02:19 jordan4ibanez http://freesound.org/people/DoubleDeanArt/sounds/94989/ 02:19 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Freesound.org - "Bad Chili Fart.wav" by DoubleDeanArt 02:20 NekoGloop moltenbot: y u lrn to /ignore 02:21 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on jordan4ibanez's head 02:22 jordan4ibanez yay 02:22 Uberi FREE KITTENS, FREE KITTENS FOR EVERYONE 02:22 * kizeren takes alergy pills 02:22 jordan4ibanez I just realised i can go rent games, then rip the cd into an iso, then burn the iso to a disk lol 02:22 NekoGloop =w= 02:23 NekoGloop /give Temperest nekogloop:kitten -1 02:23 Uberi O_o 02:23 Uberi you play with fire! 02:24 NekoGloop have some kittens. =w= 02:29 NekoGloop /give Temperest default:lava_source -1 02:29 NekoGloop Have fun. 02:30 Uberi what am I going to do with these -1 lava sources 02:30 NekoGloop Make a -1 lava pool 02:34 Muadtralk anyone notice c55 isn't a moderator on his own IRC channel? 02:35 OldCoder Muadtralk, he has full ops 02:35 NekoGloop Anyone notice the freenode guidelines say to only keep op when needed? 02:35 Uberi hey Muadtralk + kotolegokot 02:35 kotolegokot hi 02:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, Anyone notice that is a philosophy and not a rule? 02:35 Muadtralk how odd.... my irc client isnt showing his powers 02:35 Muadtralk but it shows everyone elses 02:35 OldCoder Muadtralk, he has not opped himself ATM 02:36 cy1 hey RealBadAngel, where's technic_obsidian.png? 02:36 Muadtralk ahhhhhhhhh 02:36 OldCoder NEWS: The slow Ambience problem is partly corrected 02:36 OldCoder About 5X faster now 02:36 OldCoder When I test it 02:36 NekoGloop NEWS: i still dont like it 02:36 Uberi really? how? 02:36 Uberi that's incredible 02:36 OldCoder Uberi, C55 or another party made the congestion parameters adjustable 02:36 Muadtralk ambience? 02:36 Uberi oh neat 02:36 OldCoder Remains to be seen if other people see the same speedup 02:37 OldCoder Muadtralk, music 02:37 Uberi and sound effects 02:37 Uberi like running water near the ocean 02:37 Muadtralk thats what i was thinking you were talking about 02:37 OldCoder I just loaded all the media in just a few minutes 02:37 Muadtralk minutes? 02:37 OldCoder As opposed to 30 02:38 NekoGloop As compared to hours. 02:38 Muadtralk hmmmm 02:38 OldCoder I think I can tune this further 02:38 Muadtralk odd when i had it installed for all of a day on my server people were only complaining of a few minutes loading 02:38 OldCoder The U.S. worlds will return in a few minutes 02:38 OldCoder Muadtralk, good 02:38 OldCoder Apparently it varies 02:39 NekoGloop There's also less mods on his server. 02:39 cy1 nvm I found it RealBadAngel 02:39 OldCoder mods are not the issue NekoGloop 02:39 OldCoder While I am at it does anybody wish mod updates? 02:40 VanessaE 0. 02:40 OldCoder Or new mods? 02:40 VanessaE oops 02:40 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on OldCoder's head 02:40 * OldCoder pets the kittie 02:40 kizeren OldCoder..Do you do calinous server? 02:40 OldCoder kizeren, Yes 02:41 OldCoder Nobody needs new mods? 02:41 OldCoder VanessaE, I don't wish to use plantlife yet; needs more testing 02:41 kizeren I was going to request one for his server....but it has escaped me. 02:41 VanessaE OldCoder: no prob. 02:41 OldCoder kizeren, ok 02:42 kizeren I think it was mesecons where buggin on me few days ago..... 02:42 kizeren But that isn't important. 02:42 Uberi what was the issue, kizeren? 02:43 kizeren Sticky pistons on that server when placed one to the back of another and triggered ...they would turn towards each other and stop working. 02:44 OldCoder 02:44 sema4_ well that took long enough 02:44 sema4_ /quote nick sema4 02:44 OldCoder NEWS: All 18 U.S. MT worlds updated to 0.4.4. Let's see what's broken! Come and inspect the worlds and report all the malfunctioning stuff please 02:45 OldCoder A nice new Windows 0.4.4 client will be posted tonight with preloaded cache 02:46 OldCoder Dogzilla131, check 30004 if you can 02:46 OldCoder VanessaE, maybe take a peak at 30017 02:46 OldCoder mrtux, willing to check out 30001 MT 0.4.4 world? 02:46 OldCoder mrtux, I will post a new Windows EXE in a few minutes 02:46 mrtux sure 02:46 OldCoder Hang on and you can try it 02:47 VanessaE looks right to me, OldCoder 02:47 OldCoder ty 02:47 OldCoder Need to see what crashes etc. 02:47 mrtux oldcoder, i don't need the exe 02:48 OldCoder mrtux, running what? 02:48 VanessaE OldCoder: pilzadam's signs don't respect node_ownership, just fyi. 02:48 mrtux oldcoder: windows 02:48 mrtux Nothing is wrong with the exe from the downloads page 02:49 OldCoder VanessaE, k 02:49 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on mrtux's head 02:49 OldCoder VanessaE, I thought the 2D avatars would remain. Dogzilla131 and I are apparently 3D now. 02:50 OldCoder VanessaE, do you know how that works? 02:50 Muadtralk did you remove the character.png 02:50 OldCoder Muadtralk, No 02:50 Muadtralk and models stuff? 02:50 VanessaE OldCoder: correct, but it is possible to revert to 2d if you want 02:50 Muadtralk try that 02:50 OldCoder Muadtralk, VanessaE ty 02:50 VanessaE but no one wants 2d anyway :-) 02:50 OldCoder VanessaE, delete the character.png and it will be 2D for a world? 02:50 OldCoder VanessaE, I wish one world with fun 2D 02:50 VanessaE no, I'm sure it's more than that 02:51 OldCoder Muadtralk, is she correct? 02:51 VanessaE like Muadtralk said, maybe delete the model file also 02:51 Muadtralk I still want 8 directional sprites 02:51 OldCoder VanessaE, Muadtralk what is the model file extension? 02:51 VanessaE .x 02:51 Muadtralk just remove the folder 02:51 Uberi (DirectX model format) 02:51 VanessaE you probably need to delete the whole folder. 02:51 OldCoder VanessaE, can 2D and 3D be mixed on a world? 02:52 VanessaE OldCoder: i don't know. 02:52 OldCoder Let us find out 02:52 Uberi science! 02:52 OldCoder Heh 02:52 OldCoder It can wait actually; I better finish the Windows client. mrtux my version may be faster. 02:53 Muadtralk oh and delete the player.lua 02:53 Muadtralk and its retrospective linking to the init 02:53 OldCoder Dogzilla131, to answer your ingame question your 2D avatar is gone. You are a 3D generic player. 02:53 mauvebic OT creme celery + can of tuna = actually good 02:53 OldCoder Muadtralk, But if I delete all that a world can be only 2D. So I guess it is a choice between one or another. 02:54 Uberi mauvebic: that sounds pretty delicious to me :) 02:54 OldCoder Folks try out the 0.4.4 stuff the next few days and tell me what happens 02:58 NekoGloop Go away, uberi. :D 02:59 Muadtralk hmmmm 02:59 hmmmm hmmmm 02:59 hmmmm every time i'm highlighted, i'm being highlighted by one person 02:59 hmmmm can you guess who that one person is 03:00 VanessaE heh 03:00 NekoGloop hmmmm 03:00 NekoGloop HMMMM 03:00 NekoGloop Idk. 03:00 Muadtralk if there was a way to be able to set specific visuals for players 03:00 VanessaE hmmph. 03:00 Muadtralk ie mesh or sprite 03:00 NekoGloop Muadtralk: There is iirc 03:01 Muadtralk i suppose it actually might be a way to do that 03:01 Muadtralk there not it* 03:01 OldCoder Muadtralk, let me know if you figure it out 03:01 OldCoder I'd love to have the option of both 03:01 VanessaE huh. response from github re: zipball target folder naming: "Thanks very much for the feedback, I can definitely see how this function would be useful. We've had some requests for this, so I will add your +1 to the Feature Request list for the team to consider." 03:02 VanessaE (I asked for the ability to specify the exact folder name to be created when a zipball is prepared on demand for download) 03:07 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Muadtralk's head 03:08 Muadtralk player textures mod 03:09 Muadtralk next to the textures put visual = upright_sprite 03:09 Muadtralk iirc 03:09 Muadtralk and have some sort of hook to a text file containing the names and preference of the players? 03:09 VanessaE Muadtralk: how about working that mod into something that covers both use cases and which can be merged upstream? 03:10 VanessaE I'm sure c55 will find it useful, the rest of us do anyway :-) 03:12 jordan4ibanez I've thought and thought and thought and thought 03:12 jordan4ibanez i just realised how to pathfind 03:14 VanessaE evening mrtux_ 03:14 mauvebic theres a thread on pathfinding methinks 03:14 mauvebic dont know if they got any work done yet though 03:15 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on mauvebic's head 03:15 jordan4ibanez No, it has to be a special one for minetest, i just figured it out though, hopefully i will be finished by tomorrow 03:16 mauvebic pathfinding over 10, 100, 1000 nodes? 03:16 * NekoGloop punts a kitten at mauvebic 03:16 mauvebic on an island not so bad 03:16 mauvebic around a lake :/ bit tougher lol 03:17 NekoGloop TAKE THE IFNSNSHEBFUANDIESSING KITTEN 03:17 mauvebic i already have a cat on my lapand she keeps head-buttingme when i type 03:17 NekoGloop This kitten is nice 03:17 NekoGloop It doesnt even mind being punted. 03:18 NekoGloop See 03:18 Muadtralk muavebic small world 03:18 * NekoGloop punts another kitten at mauvebic 03:18 mauvebic lol 03:19 mauvebic sorry busy with 420'ness atm lol 03:24 Uberi|Away hey Taoki 03:24 NekoGloop //set nekogloop:kitten 03:24 NekoGloop =w= 03:24 Uberi|Away jordan4ibanez: make sure you post about it in the mobs thread so I see it! 03:24 Uberi|Away bye everyone! 03:28 OldCoder The Windows EXE is producing a large debug.txt file 03:28 OldCoder is there any way to turn that off? 03:28 OldCoder NekoGloop, VanessaE ? 03:29 NekoGloop You expect me to know/care? 03:29 OldCoder I am finished I think except for that 03:29 OldCoder NekoGloop, Know, yes 03:29 Muadtralk turn it off? 03:29 VanessaE symlink it to the win equivalent of /dev/null 03:29 VanessaE no clue how that's done though 03:29 OldCoder There are no symlinks under Windows 03:29 OldCoder Not normal ones 03:30 OldCoder I will try creating a folder by that name 03:30 Muadtralk its a debug txt for a in development game 03:30 Muadtralk i dont think its meant to be removed 03:30 OldCoder Muadtralk, Need to disable it 03:30 OldCoder Or users will have 1000GB files 03:30 OldCoder I think I did it 03:30 OldCoder This is fun 03:31 NekoGloop You broke it. 03:31 OldCoder Full update of stuff almost finished 03:33 OldCoder Windows EXE seems healthy 03:33 OldCoder I've added all sorts of mods 03:33 OldCoder This copy should be less crashy than the standard one 03:38 OldCoder 03:38 OldCoder Who wishes to try the new Windows 0.4.4 client? 03:41 OldCoder 03:42 OldCoder Are there any Windows users who wish to try a nice new client? 0.4.4, less crashy, preloaded cache, faster, the oldcoder_game modset built in. Come 'n' get it. 03:42 OldCoder :-) 03:42 OldCoder 03:42 OldCoder cy1, VanessaE, NekoGloop, mauvebic, mrtux ? 03:42 OldCoder 03:43 mauvebic arch linux here 03:43 VanessaE hm? 03:43 VanessaE oh. strictly linux here. 03:43 VanessaE (Ubuntu) 03:43 mrtux oldcoder, i'll try it tomorrow 03:43 mrtux well 03:43 mrtux maybe 03:43 OldCoder That's pure commitment! :P 03:44 mrtux windows will go bai bai sometime soon 03:44 * OldCoder chuckles 03:44 mrtux Steve Ballmer is evil 03:44 OldCoder Nobody will try the new client? 03:44 NekoGloop Nope 03:45 OldCoder Oh, well 03:45 mrtux I will. 03:45 OldCoder All right 03:45 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-121213.zip 03:45 mrtux >go on my minecraft server 03:45 mrtux >dirt hous 03:45 mrtux *house 03:45 OldCoder ^ Fast client! Try it! 03:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, will you try the client so that you can laugh at the futility of existence? 03:46 * mrtux wishes Microsoft wasn't so pathetic 03:46 OldCoder Micro$oft is $$$ 03:46 OldCoder That is something to remember 03:46 mrtux Microshit 03:46 OldCoder They have clout 03:46 mrtux Bill Gate$ 03:46 OldCoder Dogzilla131, please try my new Windows client 03:47 OldCoder Do you have Windows? 03:47 Dogzilla131 yes 03:47 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-121213.zip 03:47 OldCoder Download that 03:47 OldCoder Unpack it 03:47 OldCoder Go into bin folder 03:47 OldCoder Run minetest.exe 03:47 OldCoder Thank you 03:47 OldCoder 03:47 OldCoder Try it on 30004 03:47 OldCoder Or stand alone 03:47 OldCoder Or both 03:48 Dogzilla131 ok, but what is the difference 03:48 mrtux VannesaE: Why use Ubuntu? :P 03:49 mrtux I like Arch GNU/Linux 03:49 kizeren Arch rocks! 03:49 mrtux and other "do it yourself" distros 03:49 mrtux ^ 03:49 OldCoder Dogzilla131, mine is faster, less crashy, has a preload cache, and comes with my modset 03:49 mrtux Never tried Slackware 03:49 OldCoder Test it please 03:49 OldCoder mrtux, Slackware is good 03:49 mrtux I'm itching to try it though 03:49 mrtux it's weird that it has 8 cd's 03:49 OldCoder Then proceed 03:50 OldCoder mrtux, why weird? 03:50 kizeren I run Arch, T2, CentOS, LFS, Ubuntu 03:50 NekoGloop Arch rocks! Where? Arch rock formations are awesome! 03:50 mrtux 1 seems to be for KDE 03:50 Dogzilla131 ok im downloading it 03:50 mrtux NekoGloop, Arch LINUX not Arch rock formations... 03:50 NekoGloop Oh 03:50 NekoGloop Then fuck arch. 03:50 mrtux lulz 03:51 mrtux >inb4 oldcoder adds this to his blog :P 03:51 OldCoder ? 03:51 mrtux well 03:51 mrtux nekogloop thought arch was a rock formation 03:51 NekoGloop He'd have to be paying attention. 03:51 OldCoder He did not 03:51 NekoGloop And i was joking. 03:51 mrtux but it actually is lunix 03:51 OldCoder He was poking fun 03:52 mrtux *gnu/lunix 03:52 mrtux oh lol 03:52 NekoGloop lunix? 03:52 mrtux yeah 03:52 NekoGloop Is that linux for the moon? 03:52 mrtux dunno 03:52 mrtux maybe 03:52 jordan4ibanez Pathfinding is going to be really heavy duty lol 03:53 NekoGloop The paths are going to be laid out in stainless steel tiles? 03:54 Muadtralk solid mese tiles? 04:00 mrtux night 04:01 kizeren Interesting...... 04:01 kizeren Just teleported to -3000 and it says everything is protected....no way out :( 04:25 * VanessaE peeks in again 04:25 VanessaE OldCoder: you around? 04:33 VanessaE OldCoder: please update your copies of vanessa_game and My_World_server at your convenience. 04:33 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi 04:34 VanessaE same URLs as before. 04:34 OldCoder VanessaE, Sure! 04:34 OldCoder Will do after I complete a job application 04:34 OldCoder Deal, though: Try my new Windows client; will you? 04:34 OldCoder It does need to be tested under Windows 04:34 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ 04:35 VanessaE take your time. 04:35 VanessaE I can't try the windows client, I don't have windows. 04:35 VanessaE (not even a dual boot or virtual machine) 04:36 VanessaE also, on a different but related note: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/64 04:36 moltenbot VanessaE's link: Changed Mese to act like an object cut out of a block of stone, rather than an object found *among* the stone. by VanessaE ? Pull Request #64 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 04:36 VanessaE this supercedes pull request #60 04:37 VanessaE (it is already included in the vanessa_game files) 04:39 OldCoder Hmm 04:39 OldCoder VanessaE, that is the change you mentioned 04:39 VanessaE yes. 04:39 OldCoder The one that sounds good but is irreversible 04:40 VanessaE no 04:40 OldCoder Oh? 04:40 VanessaE actually now it isn't 04:40 VanessaE I fixed that. 04:40 OldCoder Good 04:40 OldCoder So no real reason not to use the patch? 04:40 VanessaE it will not alter old maps, and I stuck a little stub into 3dforniture to convert my map back to the original format (this will not affect anyone else's map, and that is a temporary change that does not need to be managed) 04:40 VanessaE correct. 04:41 OldCoder So I could update 3dforniture elsewhere and then use your mesechange safely? 04:41 VanessaE maps spawn default:mese, I just changed the textures, made it drop crystals (which you smelt into ingots and craft into tools, blocks, etc) 04:41 OldCoder See question 04:41 VanessaE don't update 3dforniture anywhere else. 04:41 OldCoder Just for your world? 04:41 OldCoder So your change is useful and should be safe? 04:41 VanessaE I just stuffed an alias in there just to have a place to put it that would not be part of my official pull request. 04:41 OldCoder Remind me to add it 04:42 VanessaE the alias is not intended for use outside my world 04:42 OldCoder k 04:42 VanessaE the pull request is, of course. 04:42 OldCoder Remind me to add the change 04:42 VanessaE it's already part of vanessa_game :-) 04:42 OldCoder Remind me to add the change to the other worlds 04:42 VanessaE OH 04:42 VanessaE ok 04:42 OldCoder :-) 04:42 VanessaE I thought you were talking about the alias, not the rest of the patch :-) 04:42 VanessaE right. 04:42 OldCoder Yes 04:42 VanessaE ok 04:43 VanessaE the only reason not to use it is that it still breaks old recipes, but that can't be helped, and it still has that workaround to craft default:mese for use therein. 04:43 OldCoder Any recipes that would affect my worlds? 04:43 OldCoder Which ones? 04:44 VanessaE Anything that uses mese except for standard mese pickaxes - I already fixed those. 04:44 OldCoder So I'd need to edit a bunch of mods? 04:44 VanessaE but you can craft mese out of stone + mese crystal and use that in any mod that needs default:mese 04:44 OldCoder Would people be confused? 04:45 VanessaE probably. 04:45 OldCoder Well we 04:45 VanessaE but it's better to break mods than break maps. :-) 04:45 OldCoder Well we'll talk about it 04:45 VanessaE *nod* 04:46 mauvebic break maps? lol 04:47 VanessaE yup, I would rather break a bunch of mods that I can just submit updates to than to cause old maps to have a bunch of unknown blocks. 04:48 Aqua Hello iss davidpace here? 04:48 VanessaE no, but he was earlier. 04:48 VanessaE mornin' Aqua. 04:48 Aqua Damn 04:48 Aqua Good afternoon' 04:49 VanessaE or afternoon then :-) 04:49 Aqua I made a wicked map publishing it now 04:50 VanessaE cool 04:50 Aqua uses PilzAdam's Cart's 2 mod its a rollercoaster thing 04:50 VanessaE Anything like mine? :-) 04:52 Aqua Link? 04:53 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=56270#p56270 04:53 moltenbot VanessaE's link: Mesecons machine competiton 2.0! (Page 2) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 04:54 VanessaE you've seen it in my server before of course 04:56 Aqua Do you have to climb back up or does it loop? 04:57 Aqua Mine goes alot more distance from cliff to cliff and has stations 04:57 Aqua other then that its pretty similar 04:57 VanessaE it loops 04:57 Aqua And mine looks hideous its flying in the sky 04:57 VanessaE heh 04:59 Aqua Mine goes upside down 04:59 Aqua brb 05:04 Aqua Back 05:05 Aqua What time is it for you? 05:10 VanessaE I hate computers. 05:11 * VanessaE just showed a network card who's boss. 05:43 cy1 where's the player.x file...? 05:53 OldCoder celeron55, 0.4.4 upgrade completed and a snappy new 0.4.4 Windows client is built 06:06 VanessaE OldCoder: I forgot to actually upload those new world/game files. They're on the way up now. 06:07 VanessaE in the meantime, HDX now supports the new mese paradigm: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_2550437177.png 06:08 VanessaE and now the two ZIPs are actually uploaded and ready for you to grab at your convenience. 06:09 OldCoder VanessaE, All right 06:09 OldCoder Proceeding right now 06:12 VanessaE davidpace: Aqua was looking for you earlier. 06:12 davidpace Yea, I can imagine 06:12 davidpace I came here looking for him 06:13 davidpace How long ago? 06:13 VanessaE about an hour and a half ago 06:13 davidpace Okay 06:14 davidpace I promised him 2 textures I made 06:15 davidpace Wha 06:15 davidpace Oops, sorry 06:15 davidpace Who is moltenbot? 06:15 davidpace http://minetest.net/forum/index.php 06:15 moltenbot davidpace's link: Minetest Forums 06:16 davidpace Or what is? 06:16 VanessaE he's not a who, he's more of a what :-) 06:16 VanessaE just a useful bot is all. 06:16 davidpace Yep, I can see that :) 06:17 davidpace I just wanna see what it does :-): http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=minetest 06:17 moltenbot davidpace's link: freenode Web IRC (qwebirc) 06:17 davidpace Cool! 06:19 davidpace http://digitalaudioconcepts.com Your store? 06:19 moltenbot davidpace's link: Digital Audio Concepts - Products 06:19 davidpace I am reffering to: VanessaE 06:19 VanessaE yeah. 06:20 davidpace Nice. 06:20 VanessaE but I don't advertise it here since it is off-topic for this channel. 06:20 davidpace Okay. 06:21 VanessaE ok, time for me to get to bed. night all 06:22 davidpace Night 06:22 davidpace What time is it for you? 07:01 OldCoder VanessaE, try world 30017 again when you have a chance 07:01 OldCoder 07:02 OldCoder Are there any Windows MT users here tonight? 07:04 davidpace I am 07:04 davidpace ... 07:06 Kray I read Windows NT 07:06 davidpace Bye, I'll be back on in 30 mins or less, I hope :-), @OldCoder , I am a windows MT user, but I am on an old computer so I can't play MT atm 07:06 davidpace I'll leave this logged in :) 07:07 davidpace If Aqua comes, tell him I'll be back soon 07:39 OldCoder Hi 07:39 OldCoder Kray, do you play MT under Windows? 07:43 davidpace OldCoder : Do you know the server that your letting octopuslegs use? 07:43 davidpace If you do, Do you know what version of minetest its using? 07:47 OldCoder Hi 07:47 OldCoder davidpace, I should know because I built it :-) 07:47 OldCoder davidpace, What do you need to know? 07:47 davidpace Good 07:47 davidpace What Version of minetest does it run? 07:47 OldCoder The server was upgraded to 0.4.4 tonight. It is a patched version with LevelDB support and changes of my own. 07:47 davidpace Alright thanks1 07:48 davidpace *! 07:48 OldCoder davidpace, The LevelDB support is significant. makes a big difference. 07:48 OldCoder davidpace, did you say you could not run MT at the moment? I need to test my new Windows client. 07:48 davidpace Okay. 07:48 davidpace i can now 07:48 OldCoder Wait 07:48 davidpace What do you need? 07:48 davidpace Okay 07:48 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-121213.zip 07:49 OldCoder Download the ZIP and unpack it somewhere 07:49 OldCoder Go into the BIN folder 07:49 OldCoder Run minetest.exe 07:49 davidpace ok... 07:49 OldCoder Connect to world 30001 for me 07:49 OldCoder I will interact you 07:49 davidpace downloading 1 minute left 07:49 davidpace Alright 07:49 OldCoder Tell me if it runs and if you hear music 07:49 OldCoder That is pretty much it 07:49 davidpace Okay 07:49 OldCoder ty 07:50 davidpace No problem 07:50 OldCoder davidpace, BTW this version has preloaded cache and the OldCoder modset for offline play 07:50 davidpace Alright 07:50 OldCoder May also be faster and less crashy than official 07:50 davidpace Good, I like the sound of it so far :0 07:50 davidpace *:) 07:51 davidpace So just start the game thats already here? 07:52 OldCoder davidpace, no 07:52 OldCoder Go to multiplayer 07:52 davidpace Alright 07:52 OldCoder Server: minetest.org 07:52 OldCoder Port: 30001 07:53 davidpace Alright, Gonna do it right now 07:53 OldCoder I will be waiting when you arrive to grant interact 07:53 davidpace connecting 07:53 OldCoder You have a fast PC and network 07:53 OldCoder Good 07:53 davidpace I do? :) 07:54 OldCoder Seems like it may be the case 07:54 OldCoder Compared to some certainly 07:54 OldCoder davidpace, do you hear sound effects? 07:54 davidpace Yes 07:55 OldCoder davidpace, ty! 07:55 OldCoder So it works? 07:55 davidpace Yes, No problem 07:55 * OldCoder is pleased 07:55 OldCoder davidpace, tyvm 07:55 OldCoder Have fun 07:55 OldCoder davidpace, that is what I needed. Pretty sure everything is in order now. 07:56 davidpace I have to get off right now, I will be on soon though :-) 07:57 OldCoder Sure 07:57 OldCoder ttyl 07:57 davidpace Hmmm, so minetest.org with the port 30004 is PvP? 07:57 OldCoder Yes 07:57 OldCoder But the worlds as a whole are underpopulated 07:57 OldCoder This will change over time 07:57 davidpace Okay, and both are hosted by you :) 07:57 OldCoder All 18 are :-) 07:57 davidpace 18? You have 18 servers? 07:57 OldCoder About 20 to 25 counting other machines 07:57 OldCoder Yes 07:57 OldCoder Some are pretty cool 07:57 davidpace Wow 07:57 OldCoder If I do say so myself 07:58 OldCoder I like this game 07:58 ruskie hehe 07:58 davidpace I can see that 07:58 OldCoder It is art brought to life 07:58 OldCoder ruskie, admit it... this is art 07:58 davidpace Free Art! :-) 07:58 OldCoder Yep 07:58 ruskie it's engineering+art+everything else 07:58 OldCoder ruskie, tell RealBadAngel Europe is next 07:58 OldCoder Yep again 07:58 ruskie erm... I'm not very active around here recently 07:58 OldCoder ruskie, busy IRL it happens 07:58 ruskie so not even sure what's going on 07:59 OldCoder ruskie, I have upgraded my worlds to 0.4.4 07:59 ruskie ahh 07:59 OldCoder It actually works 07:59 davidpace Minetest is awesome thats whats going on 07:59 OldCoder <-- pleased 08:00 davidpace Alright See Ya guys! There are a few servers I am active on right now :) 08:00 davidpace Bye 08:00 davidpace I 08:00 davidpace Have got to find out which one is my favorite :) 08:04 DangerCoder neko259, hello 08:05 neko259 DangerCoder: Hi. 09:23 davidpace Was Aqua on recently? 10:35 DangerCoder Calinou, Hi! 10:35 DangerCoder Calinou, Your world is now 0.4.4 10:35 DangerCoder Report any problems 10:36 Calinou dear FSF, my money does not talk, and here it's euros, not dollars, so how am I supposed to turn my dollars into decibels? 10:36 Calinou :trollface: 10:36 Calinou DangerCoder: k ;) 10:37 * DangerCoder shrugs 10:37 DangerCoder Bonsai Kitten gave me the idea. I don't recall if you know him. 10:56 KikaRz Hi there 10:56 KikaRz any news about the updates? 10:56 KikaRz In 3 hours, ill be for vacances :) 10:57 KikaRz VanessaE, you there? 10:57 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits 10:57 Calinou :p 10:57 KikaRz Who is DangerCoder? and where is ChanServ? 10:57 DangerCoder Hi 10:57 Calinou DangerCoder is oldcoder.. 10:57 DangerCoder ChanServ is here 10:57 DangerCoder I am simply having a bit of fun 10:58 DangerCoder KikaRz, my U.S. worlds are all 0.4.4 now and I have built a new Windows 0.4.4 client 10:58 KikaRz And who are you? 10:58 KikaRz ah! 10:58 DangerCoder The new client is available from http://minetest.org/ 10:58 KikaRz fail, i thinked that ChanServ were OldCoder. 10:58 KikaRz what client 10:58 DangerCoder It is fine 10:58 DangerCoder A new Windows Minetest 0.4.4 EXE 10:58 KikaRz im on a school computer. 10:58 DangerCoder Very well 10:59 KikaRz Im with WIndows here, but i can't play here 10:59 DangerCoder k 10:59 KikaRz 11:00 10:59 KikaRz in 5 minutes, i have to exit. 11:00 KikaRz DangerCoder, that supports D3D? 11:00 KikaRz I don't think right 11:00 DangerCoder I don't think so; but you can try it 11:00 KikaRz Ok, ill try at home. 11:00 DangerCoder It is simply my version of the standard Windows build 11:00 KikaRz in 2 hours and 30 minutes 11:00 DangerCoder I have not added new graphics DLLs 11:01 KikaRz anything different than the official one? 11:01 DangerCoder Yes 11:01 DangerCoder The following: 11:01 KikaRz what? 11:01 DangerCoder (1) Preloaded cache, (2) A good configuration file, (3) The OldCoder modset is included, (4) Compiled differently to reduce crashes 11:01 DangerCoder Four things ^ 11:03 KikaRz gtg 11:03 KikaRz bye. 11:03 DangerCoder cu 11:05 thexyz DangerCoder: what crashes? 11:05 DangerCoder thexyz, Well, for example: 11:06 DangerCoder Minetest.EXE would not run for me yesterday until I recompiled with -O2 as opposed to -O3. The network test at startup simply failed. After the change it seemed fine. 11:06 thexyz umm.. 11:06 DangerCoder I've explained this before. -O3 is death for the program. 11:06 thexyz are you sure you're building release, not debug? 11:06 DangerCoder Just *try* to compile it for a number of different hosts. 11:06 DangerCoder Yes. 11:06 DangerCoder But actually 11:06 thexyz yes, I compile it under MSVC for windows, and it works fine (as reported by users) 11:06 DangerCoder note that -NDEBUG is required 11:07 DangerCoder Glad to hear it :p 11:07 thexyz all settings is default 11:07 DangerCoder FIne 11:07 thexyz that's just strange 11:07 DangerCoder <--- Disclaimer: It is not fine :p 11:07 DangerCoder thexyz, MSVC and gcc are different 11:07 DangerCoder Not surprising there are anomalies. Best to be conservative. And my EXE is probably faster than yours. 11:07 thexyz are you compiling under gcc? 11:07 DangerCoder So I have been told. 11:07 DangerCoder yes 11:08 DangerCoder Latest one seems to work great. Try it. 11:08 DangerCoder http://minetest.org/ has the link on the front page 11:08 thexyz well, I can't compare speed because I only have windows in virtualbox ATM 11:08 thexyz gcc builds are worse 11:08 Calinou windows' EULA forbids its use in a VM :> 11:09 DangerCoder Not based on what I've heard 11:09 Calinou everyone does that, though 11:09 Calinou at least since vista 11:09 DangerCoder Remark is about gcc 11:09 thexyz AFAIK they don't support DirectX 11:09 Calinou real GPUs work fine with opengl :P 11:09 thexyz well 11:09 DangerCoder http://minetest.org/clients.html 11:09 DangerCoder ^ Nice fast stable Windows client :-) 11:10 thexyz DangerCoder: does it support directx? 11:10 DangerCoder I have no idea 11:10 DangerCoder Try it and tell me please ty 11:10 thexyz you should better have some 11:10 DangerCoder Some what? 11:10 * DangerCoder is curious 11:11 thexyz some idea, as opposed to no idea ^^ 11:12 thexyz ok, let me check in vm 11:13 DangerCoder Very well 11:13 DangerCoder ty 11:14 thexyz I'm currently trying to add some sort of remote_media setting which allows to make clients fetch media from remote server via http protocol, are you interested in testing it? 11:16 thexyz DangerCoder: apparently, it doesn't support direct3d9 11:16 thexyz same for direct3d8 11:18 cy1 ugh mesecons... 11:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:23 brobostigon good morning everyone, 11:27 cy1 https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/61 11:27 cy1 anyone actually comprehend mesecons? :( 11:31 cy1 worst part is it's oldcoder's world so I can't mess with the codez 11:32 cy1 or uh DangerCoder = OldCoder? 11:32 thexyz for sure 11:33 cy1 oh god it got so so late 11:56 thexyz so, using cURL (even one-threaded) reduces startup time for minetest+ambience from (something like half an hour?) to 45 seconds 11:58 PilzAdam does this break anything? 11:58 thexyz dunno 11:58 PilzAdam are you sure you have deleted the cache when retrying? 11:59 thexyz sure 11:59 PilzAdam I suggest you continue testing 11:59 thexyz it locks everything on client when fetching data, though 12:04 thexyz PilzAdam: you can also test it yourself https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/remote_media 12:06 PilzAdam thexyz, there are new dependencies 12:06 thexyz ikr 12:06 thexyz it can be disabled 12:07 PilzAdam do you know the ubuntu packages? 12:07 thexyz no 12:07 thexyz (what did you mean though?) 12:08 PilzAdam the names of the ubuntu packages i need to install 12:08 Zeg9 PilzAdam, I got a working model :D 12:08 thexyz oh 12:08 Zeg9 http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pasties/store/11564/cart.x 12:09 thexyz PilzAdam: you probably need libcurl-dev 12:09 thexyz if it won't work try any of those libcurl4-openssl-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev 12:10 PilzAdam both, openssl and gnutls are in the repos 12:10 PilzAdam wich one should i install? 12:13 thexyz any 12:13 thexyz well, the one you like more 12:13 thexyz i've set up a compatible server at minetest.ru:12346 12:13 DangerCoder Hi 12:14 DangerCoder cy1, Hello 12:14 PilzAdam that was fast! 12:14 DangerCoder So cURL is not a general solution? 12:15 DangerCoder thexyz, quite interested in testing yes 12:15 DangerCoder I did LevelDB didn't I? :-) 12:15 PilzAdam hm, it was probably the cache the first time 12:15 DangerCoder thexyz, Not useful though unless it supports Windows 12:15 PilzAdam thexyz, the media thing stays at 0% while loading 12:15 Zeg9 I'll be back around 5 pm... PilzAdam, see carts forum post 12:16 DangerCoder thexyz, adjusting congestion setting seems to help a bit 12:27 RagnarLaud h8i 12:27 RagnarLaud hi* 12:27 RagnarLaud hi PilzAdam! 12:27 PilzAdam hello 12:28 RagnarLaud hey you did the darming mod right? 12:28 thexyz DangerCoder: why wouldn't curl support windows? 12:28 RagnarLaud farming* 12:28 PilzAdam RagnarLaud, yep 12:28 RagnarLaud can u help me make 3 plants? 12:28 RagnarLaud and 3 seeds... 12:28 RagnarLaud well you get the point... 12:28 PilzAdam you just have to copy the existing code 12:29 RagnarLaud the code from the farming mod? 12:29 PilzAdam yep 12:29 RagnarLaud its SO confusing :S 12:29 thexyz DangerCoder: and it can't be useless, it's backwards-compatible 12:29 PilzAdam take this as an example: https://github.com/PilzAdam/farming/blob/master/wheat.lua 12:29 thexyz so clients without curl support will work too 12:29 DangerCoder thexyz, It does. The issue is getting cmake to work. I was totally unable to persude cmake to find boost even though I built boost myself. Same issue might happen with curl. 12:29 RagnarLaud ok... 12:30 DangerCoder thexyz> DangerCoder: why wouldn't curl support windows? 12:30 DangerCoder ^ 12:30 RagnarLaud btw, is it okay if i use GEdit for editing lua? 12:30 DangerCoder But your other point is valid 12:30 RagnarLaud cause it seems to work :D 12:30 PilzAdam RagnarLaud, you can use anything you want to edit it; but VIM FTW! 12:30 * DangerCoder does not like "build" systems that make it impossible to build things 12:30 RagnarLaud VIM? 12:30 RagnarLaud well anyways... 12:30 thexyz DangerCoder: curl definetly supports win32 12:31 DangerCoder I *know* that 12:31 thexyz DangerCoder: well, you should be hating windows, not cmake 12:31 DangerCoder See above. The issue is getting cmake to find it. 12:31 DangerCoder Excuse the "*know*" 12:31 DangerCoder But I spent hours trying to build MT for Windows with Boost 12:31 thexyz it can be configured by hand 12:31 DangerCoder I tried that 12:31 DangerCoder For hours 12:31 thexyz and on windows it's AFAIK is the only way to make it work 12:31 DangerCoder Make which work? 12:31 thexyz anything! 12:32 DangerCoder BTW This was cross-compile 12:32 thexyz like libogg or libcurl 12:32 DangerCoder I ain't going back to Windows Charlie 12:32 DangerCoder :-) 12:32 thexyz ok 12:32 DangerCoder Not after about 15 years 12:32 thexyz as I only compile using MSVC I'll only be able to write guide explaining how to compile using it 12:33 DangerCoder If I can cross-compile MT that will be great. Otherwise no point for me. 12:33 DangerCoder But thank you for the points 12:33 DangerCoder AFAIK cmake should be the only problem. And it *is* a problem. 12:34 * DangerCoder hates "simple" build systems 12:34 thexyz it's strange you weren't able to build minetest with boost 12:34 DangerCoder For Windows 12:34 DangerCoder Linux version obviously works like a charm 12:34 DangerCoder The issue is cmake 12:35 DangerCoder cmake means break :p 12:35 thexyz it should be pretty straightforward 12:35 DangerCoder Nope 12:35 thexyz how can cmake be issue? 12:35 DangerCoder cmake refuses to find boost 12:35 DangerCoder I patched and patched 12:35 thexyz nah 12:35 thexyz YOU should find it 12:35 DangerCoder Cried and sighed 12:35 thexyz not cmake 12:35 DangerCoder No boost for OldCoder 12:35 DangerCoder I *did* 12:35 DangerCoder I built the damn thing myself 12:35 thexyz and then point cmake to library/includes dir 12:35 DangerCoder I did all that 12:35 DangerCoder And BTW... 12:35 DangerCoder I have fiddled with cmake for years 12:36 thexyz (by point cmake i mean make it link with boost, etc) 12:36 DangerCoder I know all that 12:36 DangerCoder The thing is there are multiple modes 12:36 DangerCoder And combinations of prefixes etc. etc. 12:36 thexyz well, that's not my issue ATM 12:36 DangerCoder Huh 12:36 DangerCoder Who said it was? 12:36 DangerCoder *You* are the one pressing me about this 12:36 * DangerCoder is annoyed 12:37 * DangerCoder is literal. When he is asked questions he answers them. He does not like to be told that he should not answer the questions he is asked. 12:37 DangerCoder D: 12:37 DangerCoder 12:37 DangerCoder If somebody prepares a curltest I will test curltest to see if curl can be tested 12:37 DangerCoder Nuff Said 12:37 DangerCoder 12:39 thexyz what do you mean? 12:39 thexyz >If somebody prepares a curltest I will test curltest to see if curl can be tested 12:39 DangerCoder MT with curl support 12:40 DangerCoder You asked me something to the effect, would I test it 12:40 DangerCoder The answer is yes 12:40 DangerCoder 12:40 DangerCoder I'm currently trying to add some sort of remote_media setting which allows to make clients fetch media from remote server via http protocol, are you interested in testing it? 12:40 DangerCoder 12:41 * DangerCoder sighs and does not understand why communication is often so difficult 12:41 DangerCoder 12:42 * DangerCoder is going to update blog entries and nap for a while 12:42 DangerCoder Good night! 12:42 RagnarLaud hey i need some help... 12:42 DangerCoder RagnarLaud, with what? 12:42 RagnarLaud minetest.register_alias("farming:corn_seed", "farming:wheat_seed") 12:42 RagnarLaud what if i delete this line... 12:43 RagnarLaud what happens... 12:43 thexyz DangerCoder: that's probably because you sometimes miss some lines 12:43 thexyz like this one (16:04:07) thexyz: PilzAdam: you can also test it yourself https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/remote_media 12:43 thexyz well, i didn't say your name that time 12:43 RagnarLaud hey... 12:43 thexyz so it's probably my fault 12:43 RagnarLaud what if i delete the aliases... 12:43 DangerCoder RagnarLaud, Oh; sorry. Not able to focus at that level right now. thexyz In this case I don't think I missed anything. Your remark followed mine. Assumption was natural. But I am tired. Good night. 12:43 RagnarLaud what will happen/wont happen 12:44 RagnarLaud oh ok... 12:44 RagnarLaud good night :D 12:44 RagnarLaud VanessaE 12:51 RagnarLaud WOW 12:51 RagnarLaud making code for a mod isnt actually that hard :D 12:51 RagnarLaud yay 12:51 RagnarLaud my mod will be hopefully up this week :D 12:51 RagnarLaud or maybe the next week :D 12:54 thexyz RagnarLaud: you should read lua api documentation 12:54 RagnarLaud what? 12:54 RagnarLaud why? 12:55 thexyz (16:42:10) RagnarLaud: minetest.register_alias("farming:corn_seed", "farming:wheat_seed") 12:55 thexyz (16:42:19) RagnarLaud: what if i delete this line... 12:55 RagnarLaud well i didnt delete it yet... 12:55 RagnarLaud and maybe not gonna 12:55 RagnarLaud just gonna tweak it a littlebit... 12:55 RagnarLaud hey thexyz 12:56 RagnarLaud you wanna be my tester? 13:05 RagnarLaud sfan5 13:05 RagnarLaud hi :D 13:05 sfan5 hi 13:05 RagnarLaud im making my first mod that im going to release 13:06 RagnarLaud http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4074 13:06 RagnarLaud is it allowed to move the topic to Mod Releases before its ready? 13:06 thexyz no 13:06 RagnarLaud if so, then please do so 13:06 RagnarLaud oh... 13:06 RagnarLaud ok... :( 13:06 thexyz seems you missed the "releases" part of its name 13:07 RagnarLaud what? 13:07 RagnarLaud if you click on the dl/crafting link, there is a "coming soon" pic... 13:08 RagnarLaud isnt that enought? 13:08 thexyz of course it's enough! 13:08 thexyz moving it right now 13:08 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1271 13:11 RagnarLaud moving what? 13:11 RagnarLaud wait you can move? 13:11 RagnarLaud and youll move it? 13:12 RagnarLaud wait... 13:12 RagnarLaud oh! 13:12 RagnarLaud thexyz = The XYZ = XYZ? 13:12 RagnarLaud OH!!! 13:12 RagnarLaud NICE :D 13:14 RagnarLaud But i got high... 13:14 RagnarLaud i forgot to make the textures...because i got high... xD 13:15 RagnarLaud btw, what do you think... 13:15 RagnarLaud as a FIRST mod :D 13:22 thexyz love those guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3u6m6cSRT4 13:24 RagnarLaud john_minetest yeah :D 13:24 RagnarLaud but idk how to... 13:26 RagnarLaud oh yeah :D 13:26 RagnarLaud or... 13:26 PilzAdam thexyz, cant understand anything but its still nice 13:26 RagnarLaud maybe make a random text generator for shout priv, while high... 13:27 thexyz PilzAdam: enable subtitles 13:27 RagnarLaud so if i say like "Hi, PilzAdam" it says "gu OukxSfgb" 13:36 RagnarLaud awesome 13:37 RagnarLaud john_minetest: hey mind helping me with that? 13:55 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on #minetest's head 13:57 * john_minetest adds a rainbow and pop-tart. NYAN! 14:05 * NekoGloop punts a kitten at #minetest 14:06 * PilzAdam puts a dog to the cat 14:08 NekoGloop You're mushroom guy, not dog guy 14:11 RagnarLaud PilzAdam: hey can you help me for a sec? 14:11 PilzAdam dunno 14:11 RagnarLaud PilzAdam: i think i just found a bug... 14:11 RagnarLaud farming:add_plant("drugs:tobaccaplant", {"drugs:tobaccaplant_1", 14:12 RagnarLaud what do i do with the farming: 14:12 RagnarLaud or do i keep it... 14:12 PilzAdam leave it as is 14:12 RagnarLaud oh ok 14:12 RagnarLaud thanks 14:12 PilzAdam and add "farming" to depends.txt 14:12 RagnarLaud oh ok :D 14:14 KikaRz Back 14:14 KikaRz Hi VanessaE, hi everyone 14:15 RagnarLaud hey PilzAdam 14:15 RagnarLaud isnt farming upstream? 14:15 PilzAdam its not 14:17 RagnarLaud oh... 14:17 RagnarLaud well it should be... :( 14:31 RealBadAngel hello everyone 14:32 RagnarLaud hi! 14:32 RagnarLaud hey RealBadAngel 14:33 RagnarLaud what if the textures are .jpg, if i describe that in the init.lua as texturename.jpg, does it work? 14:35 RagnarLaud never mind :D 14:36 KikaRz RealBadAngel, hi :) 14:41 RagnarLaud [Mod]Drugs[drugs] 0.0.5 has just been released! 14:41 KikaRz ... 14:41 RagnarLaud WITHOUT ANY TEXTURES XD 14:41 KikaRz you kidding me? -.- 14:41 RagnarLaud nope! 14:41 RagnarLaud http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=56838#p56838 14:41 KikaRz ... 14:41 KikaRz I dislike links. 14:42 RagnarLaud what? 14:42 KikaRz nothing. 14:44 RagnarLaud I HAVE EARNED $0.00200 14:44 RagnarLaud YAY XD 14:44 RagnarLaud FOR 1 VISIT :D 14:45 RagnarLaud :3 i love AdFly :3 14:46 KikaRz shut up. 14:46 KikaRz i have 644.4333$ by Machinima 14:46 KikaRz and 53.43$ by TGN Portugal 14:46 RagnarLaud so?! 14:46 RagnarLaud well im 13 :D' 14:46 RagnarLaud youre 21/22 xD 14:46 KikaRz so, you can't have money. 14:47 RagnarLaud why not! 14:47 RagnarLaud xD 14:47 KikaRz Credit card. 14:47 RagnarLaud i have a credit card you moron! 14:47 KikaRz If you're 13. 14:47 KikaRz -.- 14:47 KikaRz you cant 14:48 RealBadAngel Gretid Gard? 14:48 KikaRz Idk what's a Gretid card. 14:48 RagnarLaud LOL 14:48 RagnarLaud i can you asshole! 14:48 RagnarLaud im not where you are! 14:48 KikaRz No Flamming. 14:48 RagnarLaud im from estonia! 14:48 RagnarLaud flamming? 14:48 RealBadAngel when u cant have Credit Card you get Gredid Card 14:49 RagnarLaud LOL 14:49 iqualfragile hi b!4tc35 14:49 KikaRz Flamming is when you tell Offensive Words to someone. (like: YOU MORON! YOU ASSHOLE) 14:49 KikaRz hi iqualfragile 14:49 RealBadAngel hi iqualfragile 14:50 PilzAdam hi iqualfragile 14:50 iqualfragile hi guys :D 14:50 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=56876#p56876 14:50 KikaRz and girl 14:50 iqualfragile KikaRz: see "hi b!4tc35" 14:51 RagnarLaud COME ON!!! 14:51 RagnarLaud WHY 14:51 KikaRz shut you you nawb. 14:51 RagnarLaud IM SAVING UP SO I CAN BUY A LAPTOP AND HOST MY SERVER 24/7! 14:51 iqualfragile RagnarLaud: stop the capslock 14:51 KikaRz SHUT UP YOU NAWB! 14:51 RagnarLaud ok :( 14:51 RagnarLaud CAPS L0Ck 14:51 PilzAdam Do not earns money from an Open Source project; thats my opinion 14:51 RagnarLaud K1Ck 14:51 RagnarLaud ok :( 14:52 RagnarLaud if i remove my adfly link, will you delete ur post? 14:52 PilzAdam yep 14:52 RagnarLaud oh wait! 14:52 iqualfragile PilzAdam: … hmm… if he would realy be the author it would be allright i guess (depending on the size of the mod) 14:52 RagnarLaud why not earn line 0.002 $ from 1 view? 14:53 PilzAdam its 99.9% code from me 14:53 RagnarLaud :( 14:53 RagnarLaud but it was my idea :( 14:53 RagnarLaud and im going to credit you in a sec 14:53 thexyz PilzAdam: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/remote_media 14:53 thexyz i've fixed something 14:53 thexyz now it's threaded 14:53 KikaRz RagnarLaud, you too young to win Money by internet . 14:53 PilzAdam im on -dev, you dont have to double post 14:53 thexyz ok 14:54 thexyz so, ambience loads in ~20 seconds for me now 14:54 thexyz using 8 fetch threads 14:54 PilzAdam im not gonna test this right now 14:54 thexyz ok 14:54 PilzAdam just remove this curl package 14:55 PilzAdam *removed 14:55 thexyz why? 14:55 iqualfragile w00t? 14:55 RagnarLaud btw, i hate you adam! 14:55 iqualfragile one does not simply remove curl 14:55 RagnarLaud bye! 14:55 iqualfragile go to hell 14:55 PilzAdam iqualfragile, only the -dev package 14:55 iqualfragile ah, ok 14:55 thexyz still 14:55 PilzAdam I dont need it 14:56 thexyz what are you running your linux from, a floppy? 14:56 PilzAdam + depdendecies it was over 19 MB 14:56 thexyz oh 14:56 thexyz that's strange 14:56 thexyz afaik, -dev one only contains include dir 14:56 KikaRz Yay, young puto saiu. 14:56 thexyz still 14:56 thexyz package size is 891.1 kB for amd64 14:57 thexyz well, whatever, it's not windows, you don't have to immediately remove stuff you don't need 14:57 thexyz anyone else willing to test? 15:01 KikaRz amd64, not ixxx 15:05 thexyz that's not fun, how can minetestserver eat up to 70% of core i7-2600 when 7 players are online? 15:05 thexyz up to 90% actually 15:06 thexyz (though i use pretty old version, 20120606 one) 15:06 PilzAdam why do people use old versions? 15:06 thexyz you mean, this one was fixed? 15:07 PilzAdam no 15:07 thexyz also, what is >Congestion control parameters? 15:07 PilzAdam its something about the network 15:07 thexyz can it improve perfomance? 15:07 PilzAdam the package send limit or so 15:09 KikaRz guys 15:09 KikaRz can you translate me: surdo (PT) to english? 15:10 KikaRz (a person that can't listen ) 15:18 whirm KikaRz: deaf 15:18 KikaRz i know that is defficient 15:18 whirm no man... 15:18 whirm translate.google.com 15:20 Penguin Hi Can Someone Help Me What Fourm Would I Post 0.4.4 Skins 15:21 PilzAdam Texture Packs 15:21 Penguin Thanks 15:30 KikaRz Who can come to VanessaE's server to explain me mesecons? 15:30 KikaRz hi celeron55. 15:37 KikaRz VanessaE 15:40 babyface1031 hi everyone 15:43 babyface1031 where can i get the 0.4.4 that OldCoder has on his server 15:43 KikaRz minetest.org 15:44 KikaRz there is a 0.44. 15:44 KikaRz *0.4.4 client 15:44 babyface1031 ok ty 15:44 KikaRz or minetest.org/clients/minetest-121213 15:44 KikaRz i guess 15:44 KikaRz .zip 15:49 iqualfragile in wich file is the abm wich changes saplings into trees? 15:50 iqualfragile KikaRz: http://mesecon.ohost.de/ 15:50 moltenbot iqualfragile's link: Mesecons 15:50 KikaRz iqualfragile, i didn't said about that. 15:52 KikaRz Hi Jordach, Bye Jordach 15:56 KikaRz guys, how i install java? 15:57 KikaRz im developing an app for android, iOS and etc 15:57 KikaRz and i need to try it in linux 15:58 KikaRz Hi NekoGloop 15:58 KikaRz Hi Jordach 15:58 * Jordach laughs evilly 15:58 * NekoGloop punts a kitten at KikaRz 15:59 KikaRz NekoGloop, I'm already a kitten. 15:59 Jordach NekoGloop, cloaks ftw 16:02 KikaRz Jordach, you will see in 5 min 16:04 KikaRz Jordach, now you can see. unaffiliated/kikarz 16:04 KikaRz :) 16:04 Zeg9 Hello 16:04 KikaRz Hi Zeg9 16:05 Jordach hello Zeg9 16:07 PilzAdam can the client's c++ code access the settings of the server? 16:07 Jordach nope# 16:07 Jordach unless they are the admin, with /setting 16:08 KikaRz /set 16:08 PilzAdam I mean does the client now if the server has enable_damage = false 16:08 PilzAdam (in the c++ code) 16:08 KikaRz PilzAdam, you can set by the client (server priv needed) 16:09 KikaRz then you will put: /set enable_damage = false/true 16:09 PilzAdam -_- 16:09 NekoGloop Retards 16:09 NekoGloop Retards everywhere 16:10 PilzAdam KikaRz, i want to now how to do it in the *code* 16:10 PilzAdam i know how to set it in the chat 16:10 KikaRz NekoGloop, put your keyboard in your a** then you will see where are the retards. 16:11 NekoGloop The above sentence couldnt possibly have worse grammar. 16:13 KikaRz :'( 16:13 KikaRz Im scared. 16:13 NekoGloop Good 16:13 KikaRz Too much wind outside (130 KM/h) 16:13 KikaRz NekoGloop, not scared from you. from the weather 16:14 RealBadAngel time to unpack flying tools 16:15 RealBadAngel heres not so windy, just cold 16:15 RealBadAngel -10 by now 16:16 KikaRz http://www.meteo.pt/ 16:16 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Instituto de Meteorologia, IP Portugal 16:16 KikaRz thats not spanish, thats portuguese 16:17 RealBadAngel damn you 16:17 KikaRz you talking for me or for NekoGloop? 16:17 RealBadAngel you 16:17 KikaRz what i did to you? 16:18 RealBadAngel you have +20 circa 16:18 KikaRz circa? 16:18 RealBadAngel well, 10 to 20 16:18 RealBadAngel i do have -10 16:18 KikaRz no, i have 5ºC (minimal) 16:19 KikaRz and 11ºc (maximal) 16:19 RealBadAngel still, way more than we do have here 16:19 NekoGloop Then stop living at the north pole 16:19 RealBadAngel hehe 16:19 KikaRz you dont have wind. 16:19 * NekoGloop punts a kitten at rba 16:20 RealBadAngel i could swap 20degs in plus for a little wind 16:20 KikaRz RealBadAngel, im going to install teamviewer 16:21 KikaRz first tell me: how to install java? 16:21 RealBadAngel google knows 16:21 Zeg9 teamviewer ? java ? 16:21 Zeg9 Why you need java for teamviewer ? 16:21 KikaRz ... Not for that -.-' 16:21 * Zeg9 is out :D 16:21 KikaRz it's a project 16:21 KikaRz that im developing (not gaming) 16:22 thexyz google is your friend 16:23 NekoGloop Course, you could just use windows. 16:23 KikaRz NekoGloop: windows sucks. 16:23 KikaRz NekoGloop: windows sucks. 16:23 RealBadAngel example: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html 16:23 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: Install Oracle Java 7 in Ubuntu via PPA Repository ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog 16:24 NekoGloop KikaRz: Then why are there so many games developed exclusively for it? 16:24 KikaRz cause you're noob. 16:24 RealBadAngel $ 16:24 KikaRz you don't know make them work into linux -.- 16:24 RealBadAngel all have coins instead of eyes 16:25 RealBadAngel its called business little kitty 16:26 KikaRz Yea. 16:26 RealBadAngel all is about to get as much money as possible out of you, happy consumer 16:27 Jordach well 16:27 Jordach minecrap at first was very very cheap 16:27 NekoGloop Why do they care? They dont get money from you buying windows. 16:28 RealBadAngel stop blaming Notch there, hes indie developer 16:29 thexyz NekoGloop: windows is too insecure to use this days 16:29 RealBadAngel windows is good at one thing 16:30 RealBadAngel its a demo of an os 16:30 RealBadAngel it shows how real OSes could work to the folks 16:30 RealBadAngel except for that of course its only a demo 16:31 KikaRz Aaaa 16:31 KikaRz got a problem 16:31 KikaRz E: O pacote teamviewer necessita ser reinstalado, mas não foi possível encontrar um repositório para o mesmo. 16:31 mauvebic windows has been insecure since 2000/ME lol 16:31 NekoGloop Windows is a real OS. 16:31 KikaRz The package teamviewer needs to be reinstalled, but could not be possible to find one repository for it. 16:32 RealBadAngel people are made dumb by the corporations 16:32 KikaRz NekoGloop, just put it in your a*s and smile. 16:32 RealBadAngel one rule, if im a producer of something 16:33 RealBadAngel i will make anythin to sell you my product 16:33 RealBadAngel lies included 16:33 mauvebic they're all real OSes, just diff varieties of bad lol 16:33 KikaRz Faaak! 16:33 NekoGloop This is the kind of community that doesnt want content from someone who uses a real OS. 16:34 RealBadAngel first rule when you will attempt to be a seller of anythin 16:34 mauvebic i dont think people here care what OS you use except for a few zealots 16:34 RealBadAngel customer is our enemy 16:34 RealBadAngel he has our money 16:34 RealBadAngel we shall do anythin to force him to give it to us 16:35 mauvebic there's always communist china? 16:35 celeron55_ NekoGloop: this is the kind of community that has people who think the community is two people that happen to be against them 16:35 RealBadAngel no 16:35 RealBadAngel thats real life 16:35 RealBadAngel thats how they train the workers 16:35 NekoGloop celeron55_: you, rba, mauvebic, kikarz, vanessa... Need i go on? 16:36 NekoGloop Some are more subtle in their hate of anyone who uses windows. 16:36 KikaRz NekoGloop, vanessa is offline. 16:36 RealBadAngel i was takin part in such shit 16:36 KikaRz not offline 16:36 KikaRz is away. 16:36 mauvebic ianno, the last political conversation (involving animals i think) didnt end too well 16:36 mauvebic maybe we should end this here lol 16:36 NekoGloop And there's always the retard known as KikaRz. 16:36 KikaRz rba, go query 16:36 RealBadAngel all resellers were trained like that 16:37 KikaRz fuck you NekoGloop. i'm tired of you. and maybe more people are. 16:37 NekoGloop KikaRz: Learn to understand the damn english language. 16:37 mauvebic not everyone is native english speaker 16:37 NekoGloop I wasnt talking to her. 16:37 NekoGloop Nor did i even intend to ping her. 16:38 KikaRz NekoGloop, I'm not talking "bad" english. 16:38 mauvebic john_minetest perhaps we should setup a poll for that lol 16:38 iqualfragile in wich file is the abm wich changes saplings into trees? 16:38 NekoGloop KikaRz: Yeah, but you cant understand good english 16:38 KikaRz NekoGloop, i'm without host. (i'm in my friend's house) 16:38 KikaRz his net is satelite. 16:38 NekoGloop KikaRz: This is relavent how? 16:39 KikaRz Now, you are talking bad english, not me. 16:39 mauvebic id call it minetest-retarded but these days saying retarded is worse than dropping the n-bomb 16:39 KikaRz !define relavent 16:39 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: En Suisse, laver la vaisselle après le repas. 16:39 KikaRz That's Swedish. 16:39 NekoGloop relate. relavent. 16:39 NekoGloop English ^ 16:39 KikaRz *relevant 16:39 * VanessaE peeks in 16:39 KikaRz *revelant. 16:39 VanessaE what'd I miss? 16:39 mauvebic not much lol 16:40 KikaRz Hi VanessaE, a discussion with NekoGloop. 16:40 VanessaE oh 16:40 mauvebic lol 16:40 mauvebic oh says it all 16:40 NekoGloop relavent is the proper way of saying it. 16:40 KikaRz relavent = washing the plates, etc. 16:41 NekoGloop revelant? wtf does that mean. 16:41 KikaRz !define revelant 16:41 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking' 16:42 KikaRz !define !relevant 16:42 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking' 16:42 KikaRz !define relevant 16:42 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: relevant definition: having significant and demonstrable bearing on the matter at hand. 16:42 KikaRz you see? revelant and relevant are completely different things. 16:42 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: not on the topic of discussion; far from the general subject of a discussion; not part of the purpose of a particular communication channel, such as an Internet newsgroup. 16:42 mauvebic !define retarded 16:42 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: retardation definition: an act or instance of retarding. 16:42 KikaRz !define NekoGloop 16:42 moltenbot no definition found, try to use 'thinking' 16:42 thexyz NekoGloop: what's your native language? 16:43 KikaRz swedish maybe. 16:43 NekoGloop english. 16:43 thexyz KikaRz: stop abusing the bot 16:43 KikaRz you sure? 16:43 KikaRz thexyz, i'm not. 16:44 NekoGloop !define relate 16:44 NekoGloop Oh, right. 16:44 KikaRz *related 16:45 NekoGloop moltenbot is ignoring me. 16:45 KikaRz Because you may be retarted. 16:45 mauvebic retarted? lol 16:46 mauvebic or just a tart? 16:46 KikaRz (im writing the form of him) 16:46 mauvebic ahh lol 16:46 NekoGloop No, you just can't spell. 16:46 KikaRz retarded it's the right form. 16:46 KikaRz Your english is 40% correct . 16:46 mauvebic nekogloop focus less on people and more on code :-) 16:47 NekoGloop My code is shit, so what purpose would that serve? 16:47 mauvebic you spend all your time here fighting with people 16:47 mauvebic if you put that time into your code imagine what you'd have 16:47 NekoGloop More shit? 16:47 mauvebic put yourself down if you want 16:48 KikaRz mauvebic 16:48 mauvebic but you seem to be putting others down for the same reason 16:48 KikaRz going to create new blocks 16:48 KikaRz then programing them 16:48 KikaRz (how i can make slabs?) 16:48 NekoGloop You don't. 16:48 KikaRz Shut up NekoGloop. 16:48 thexyz well, NekoGloop seems only to be capable of whining ATM 16:49 mauvebic slabs? half the stairs mods have em kikarz including the default if im not mistaken 16:49 NekoGloop Someone make wallmounted slabs. And then do placement like redpower. 16:49 KikaRz default have them too 16:49 NekoGloop Now. 16:50 KikaRz (guess im going to destroy NekoGloop's house.) 16:50 NekoGloop I dont have one. 16:50 KikaRz oh right, you live in the street. 16:50 NekoGloop I live in a hole in the ground. 16:50 KikaRz without beds 16:51 NekoGloop Stop explaining your life. 16:51 NekoGloop We don't care. 16:52 Calinou no u 16:53 NekoGloop thexyz: I take it you were the one who wiped my farewell post, as well? 16:53 KikaRz NekoGloop, do you want to start having problems? I guess yes. 16:53 thexyz NekoGloop: umm? 16:54 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: not on the topic of discussion; far from the general subject of a discussion; not part of the purpose of a particular communication channel, such as an Internet newsgroup. 16:54 KikaRz I heard that Windows it's the most unprotected OS. 16:55 KikaRz john_minetest, go make your homework. 16:55 NekoGloop What the hell does that even mean. 16:55 mauvebic i dont know how some people sit on this channel 24hrs a day every day lol id go insane 16:56 Calinou NekoGloop: that's not a question 16:56 NekoGloop Calinou: Exactly. 16:56 thexyz NekoGloop: what topic were you talking about? 16:56 NekoGloop A ponderance. 16:56 NekoGloop thexyz: The one that got wiped mere seconds after i posted it. 16:56 KikaRz And a Warning. 16:57 thexyz well, I don't remember this, but I guess you may be right 16:57 mauvebic can we have a sticky thread called 'The Sign-Out Book" where people can post their goodbyes? 16:57 KikaRz john_minetest, he started. not me. 16:57 mauvebic better than a bunch of threads 16:57 NekoGloop KikaRz: And you continued it for what, an hour? 16:58 KikaRz NekoGloop, Stfu and go get some sleep . 16:58 KikaRz -- End of Thread -- 16:58 NekoGloop It's noon for pete's sake... 16:59 * KikaRz is installing some apps. 16:59 KikaRz DangerCoder = OldCoder. 16:59 KikaRz He changed his name. 17:00 mauvebic anyone heard from neuromancer lately? 17:00 NekoGloop Only mac uses call applications "apps" 17:00 NekoGloop users* 17:00 NekoGloop Fuck this keyboard. So damn picky. 17:00 Calinou how can you fuck keyboards... 17:00 mauvebic sticky keys... lol 17:01 Calinou john_minetest: how do BSD users call these, then? 17:01 NekoGloop i just fuck you all and call them what they are: "applications" 17:01 Calinou must be "apps" since OS X is so famous :> 17:02 KikaRz NekoGloop, fuck off. 17:02 KikaRz I'm not a Mac user. so, shut up. 17:03 Calinou KikaRz: be nice to other people in the channel, please, there's no need for insults. 17:03 KikaRz Calinou, i'm tired of him. 17:03 Calinou john_minetest: depends on your client, on xchat it's /ignore ALL 17:03 Calinou KikaRz: there is still no need for insults :) 17:03 Calinou ignore him if you want 17:03 KikaRz NekoGloop is now ignored. 17:03 mauvebic there are plenty of polite ways to insult people anyhow 17:04 mauvebic like telling a woman she looks "smart" 17:04 NekoGloop Good god. I thought i'd never be rid of kika. 17:07 celeron55_ NekoGloop: can you seriously suggest i hate people who use windows while i am roughly the only one who insist on having everything in minetest reasonably support windows and compile windows versions with microsoft's compilers? 17:08 celeron55_ get real 17:08 celeron55_ i mean, of course i hate windows, but i hate linux and osx and everything else too 17:09 celeron55_ and those aren't the people who use them 17:09 celeron55_ they are the OSes 17:11 VanessaE Since I was mentioned earlier today in this subject, I don't generally hate people either (not even you, NekoGloop ;-) ) regardless of the OS they use. I just hate the OS. :-) 17:11 Jordach i'll use anything that supports my needs 17:12 NekoGloop ... 17:17 iqualfragile forum-admins http://minetest.net/forum/profile.php?id=3695 http://minetest.net/forum/profile.php?id=2664 spambots, spambots everywhere (please delet) 17:17 moltenbot iqualfragile's link: nevkick's profile - Minetest Forums 17:17 iqualfragile ( Calinou VanessaE celeron55_ sfan5 thexyz ) see above 17:18 thexyz nice report, >Modding General : [Mod] Drugs [drugs] : Post #56838 17:18 thexyz Spam/AdFly 17:18 PilzAdam heh 17:19 Calinou done 17:19 VanessaE done. 17:19 Calinou thexyz: should we keep adfly links? 17:19 Calinou adfly is terrible 17:19 PilzAdam I thought you dont read the reports 17:19 NekoGloop No they dont 17:19 NekoGloop They just undeniably ban. 17:19 Zeg9 just edit them and replace by their target 17:19 thexyz Calinou: can we `wget` those and receive files? 17:21 Calinou nopez 17:21 Calinou and adblock sometimes even fails to block sound-playing ads (happened once to me) 17:22 mauvebic flashblock will block those 17:23 mauvebic noscript too 17:23 Calinou who uses firefox in 2012 17:23 KikaRz Me. 17:23 mauvebic ? i have those on chrome 17:23 KikaRz Chrome lags my pc 17:23 Calinou chromium > chrome 17:24 KikaRz Firefox plays faster the Youtube movies / films / videos 17:24 mauvebic chrome,chromium, iron, wtv lol 17:24 mauvebic back in the 90s browsers were browsers (not portable OSes lol) 17:25 Calinou KikaRz: youtube-dl > youtube 17:25 iqualfragile firefox 17:25 mauvebic now you need a dozen blockers to read a page in peace lol 17:26 iqualfragile Calinou: youtube-dl | mplayer 17:27 Zeg9 Firefox here too 17:27 Zeg9 mauvebic, welcome to what people did to web 17:27 PilzAdam is there an browser poll? 17:27 mauvebic just an hero 17:27 Zeg9 It seems so 17:27 PilzAdam Firefox 17:28 KikaRz Calinou, can't. 17:28 mauvebic what i miss abouty 90's web: people made real fansites with more detail than most wiki pages lol 17:29 Zeg9 Yeah but ... ads won't be here, flash stuff too,... but... no "good css" or other nice stuff 17:30 * PilzAdam is a fan of HTML5 17:30 Zeg9 "HTML5 by microsoft" according to sourceforge xD 17:31 mauvebic lol microsoft aint the enemy anymore, thats really 90's. apple is 17:31 KikaRz HTML5 sucks (if its from Microsoft) 17:31 Zeg9 It isn't from microsoft 17:31 Zeg9 but sourceforge is sponsored by microsoft, so... 17:32 Calinou ms uses github too :D 17:32 mauvebic when gates left and stevie came back the tables pretty much turned 17:32 Calinou mauvebic: not really 17:32 Calinou stuff is still bad 17:32 Zeg9 But you know, microsoft helped in kernel 3.0... 17:32 mauvebic both are bad 17:32 Zeg9 ...maybe for their virtual machine project 17:32 mauvebic it was always a matter of marketing and controlling the market 17:33 mauvebic ballmer is inept at both 17:33 mauvebic steve was good at it but hes gone now 17:33 Calinou the only products that work are windows and office because they're selling it forcibly 17:33 KikaRz TeamViewer 8 is now installed 17:33 Calinou "work" in a commercial way 17:33 Calinou KikaRz: woo! another user of proprietary evil software! 17:34 KikaRz no, im not a user 17:34 PilzAdam Idea: recreate the Minetest article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life 17:34 KikaRz just a destroyer 17:34 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Meaning of life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 17:34 KikaRz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest 17:34 KikaRz '-' 17:34 mauvebic it works because companies can call someone when shit breaks and not be told 'FIY' lol 17:34 Calinou KikaRz: ask the WP admins 17:34 Calinou i'm too annoying for them.. 17:35 iqualfragile KikaRz: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest 17:35 moltenbot iqualfragile's link: Minetest-c55 - Wikipedia 17:36 marktraceur KikaRz: Don't ask, just make the article! 17:36 PilzAdam KikaRz, learn german and read the german article; its absolutly worth it! 17:37 Calinou marktraceur: so that it'll be deleted because not notable? 17:37 Calinou +it's 17:37 Calinou that's what happened before, we had a good article 17:38 mauvebic wikipedia doesnt seem to have a lot of pages on OSS games :/ 17:39 marktraceur Calinou: If further people make good articles, then it's less likely to be deleted. 17:39 mauvebic im more used to looking on http://www.happypenguin.org/ for that 17:39 marktraceur Calinou: Iterating, too, is good. 17:39 Calinou marktraceur: see the "article for deletion" about minetest 17:40 Calinou as i'm too lazy to make another WP account, as soon as I contribute to it the article will be removed 17:40 Calinou (plus, coming with decent fakenames is hard!) 17:40 youlysses What license is the artwork under? I want to upload a package for NixOS assuming it's not already avaliable. :-) 17:40 Calinou mauvebic: 2007 was the year of foss gaming, you could make an artcile about a foss game with zero sources and it stayed there 17:40 Calinou eg. armagetron advanced 17:41 Calinou youlysses: a mix of WTFPL, CC BY, CC BY SA 17:41 Calinou the most strict one being CC BY SA 17:41 mauvebic 2007 was the peak of linux too, i never got physical with computers back then 17:41 mauvebic thank god for cheap keyboards 17:41 PilzAdam youlysses, and cc-0 17:41 youlysses I guess I need to look into it, and see if it's compatible with the hydra build system (license wise). :-P 17:42 marktraceur Calinou: I fear I'd have a complicated time of things if I tried to build an article 17:42 marktraceur Calinou: I'm part of the project, credited and all, so 17:42 Calinou there is already one article 17:42 Calinou *plugs USB drive and gets the wikicode of the old article* 17:43 VanessaE bbl 17:43 mauvebic youd need to run the article through a thesaurus and change a few dots and commas to make it look newish 17:45 KikaRz VanessaE, if you were liking chocolate... i was giving you 4 boxes 17:45 KikaRz i have 12 in here. 17:45 Calinou erm, looks like i don't have it 17:45 Calinou john_minetest: it's called java 17:47 Zeg9 Yeah, in python you need to format your code great, to make it run 17:47 Zeg9 :D 17:48 KikaRz lol 17:48 * Calinou got crushed by a python standard library 17:48 KikaRz Meaning of Death 17:48 KikaRz what it says? 17:49 mauvebic monty python 17:51 mauvebic cop a feel? 17:52 mauvebic :P 17:52 mauvebic thats more than i know how to do lol 17:54 mauvebic they quit fightin a while ago anyhoo 17:54 mauvebic thank the gods 17:58 mauvebic were building this huge-ass mountain with a dwarven city in it 17:58 mauvebic like the timelapse video 'dwarven city' 18:21 PilzAdam Calinou, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=56903#p56903 18:21 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: [Mod] Drugs [drugs] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 18:22 Calinou yes, i know 18:23 Calinou ah he wanted it to be deleted 18:23 Calinou done 18:25 KikaRz Fuck. 18:25 KikaRz my computer crashed 18:27 Calinou old news 18:27 KikaRz let me see if in my language is there 18:27 KikaRz if is not 18:27 KikaRz ill add 18:28 KikaRz it's my language 18:28 KikaRz http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest 18:28 KikaRz Its not 18:28 KikaRz going to add 18:29 KikaRz can i? 18:30 Calinou yes 18:30 Calinou maybe use the german article as a abse 18:31 KikaRz idk german 18:31 Calinou google translate knows german 18:32 KikaRz Gean (discussão | contribs) apagou a página Minetest (20. Impróprio 18:32 KikaRz Gean... who is Gean? 18:33 KikaRz LOL 18:33 KikaRz Wikipedia dont needs email to register 18:33 Calinou no 18:33 Calinou registering is good, though, you should do it :P 18:34 KikaRz lol 18:34 KikaRz Who is fucking Gean? 18:35 KikaRz (meist nur Minetest) = ? 18:35 KikaRz "meist nur" is what? 18:36 PilzAdam KikaRz, mostly 18:36 PilzAdam its german 18:36 KikaRz ok 18:36 KikaRz i know. 18:36 KikaRz i cant use translate.google.pt 18:36 KikaRz Freies = ? 18:37 PilzAdam free 18:37 KikaRz Help me translating in Query. 18:37 PilzAdam lets flood the channel ;-) 18:37 KikaRz No. That's restricted. 18:37 KikaRz Whats computerspiel? 18:37 sema4 jargon 18:38 PilzAdam KikaRz, computer game 18:41 KikaRz1 Window 18:41 KikaRz1 List of Ignorated 18:41 KikaRz1 or Ignorated List 18:41 KikaRz1 (in XChat 2) 18:41 KikaRz1 Did you unignorated me already? 18:45 Calinou xchat2 is obsolete, use hexchat: http://hexchat.org 18:45 moltenbot Calinou's link: HexChat 18:45 Calinou xchat (the original one) is also obsolete, it's no longer updated ;) 18:46 Jordach Calinou, /ctcp Jordach version 18:48 KikaRz john_minetest, you unignored me already? 18:48 RagnarLaud Hi 18:48 RagnarLaud Hi john 18:48 FreeFull I wonder if xchat aqua will ever be merged into hexchat 18:49 Zeg9 Hi Ragnar 18:49 RagnarLaud Im using jmirc 18:49 PilzAdam RagnarLaud, still angry? 18:49 RagnarLaud hey zeg 18:49 FreeFull I'm using irssi 18:49 RagnarLaud Not much 18:49 FreeFull But hexchat is what I recommend to other people 18:50 RagnarLaud Btw jmirc is irc on my phone 18:50 KikaRz ... 18:50 KikaRz PilzAdam, its the Rubenwardy thread updated? 18:51 PilzAdam what? 18:52 Zeg9 I have to go, bbl maybe 18:52 Zeg9 Bye everyone 18:52 KikaRz bbl = ? 18:52 RagnarLaud Bye 18:52 Zeg9 be back later 18:57 KikaRz Guys, i present you... My son. 18:57 KikaRz telek 18:57 KikaRz telek> Mommy! 18:57 KikaRz Hi sonny :) 18:58 RagnarLaud Im back, lag 18:59 telek What's going on in minetestland? 19:00 RagnarLaud idk 19:00 KikaRz http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:Gean 19:00 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Usuario:Gean - Wikipedia, a enciclopedia livre 19:00 KikaRz Gean is a brazilian user... 19:00 KikaRz what a stupid. 19:00 RagnarLaud Nobody cares 19:01 KikaRz going to report him 19:01 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4075 19:01 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: [1.0] Santa! (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 19:01 KikaRz RagnarLoud, shut up 19:01 KikaRz He deleted Minetest (PT wikipedia) info 19:01 RagnarLaud Sir no sir 19:02 RagnarLaud Oo 2 and a half men is on yay 19:02 RagnarLaud Im afm 19:03 RagnarLaud Away from mobile 19:03 RagnarLaud /ME is watching 2 and a half men 19:04 KikaRz stupid. 19:04 telek What's shakin kikarz? 19:04 KikaRz shakin = (a bit same of) Vibrating 19:04 RagnarLaud No im not, i know what to google 19:04 KikaRz stupid. 19:04 RagnarLaud No im not 19:05 KikaRz i didnt called you 19:05 KikaRz i called to 2 and a half gay. 19:05 RagnarLaud Oh ok thanks honey 19:05 jordan4ibanez All the english in here terrible 19:06 RagnarLaud Oo kandi left charlies brother 19:06 RagnarLaud hi jordan 19:09 PilzAdam Jordach, nice lets play with mito! 19:09 * Jordach did not not it was out 19:09 * Jordach was playing tekkit for ideas 19:10 Jordach i should make a jar of dirt, for the boat users 19:11 Jordach so scurvy is curable 19:12 RagnarLaud Hi 19:19 RagnarLaud Hi 19:25 KikaRz SHUT THE HELL UP! 19:25 telek Jordach: I thought scurvy was cured with biscuits? 19:25 Jordach nope 19:26 telek Fresh fruit? 19:26 Jordach vitamin c means anti-scurvy 19:26 telek Ahh. 19:26 telek So orange them. 19:27 telek Why does minetest seem so slow when loading worlds with a lot of mods? Checksumming of textures? 19:29 PilzAdam all the media (textures, sounds, etc.) are loaded at startup 19:29 PilzAdam this takes a while 19:29 marktraceur KikaRz: Um, what are you saying shut up about? 19:30 PilzAdam telek, and also if you use preload_item_visuals the inventory items are all rendered at startup 19:31 telek PilzAdam: Good to know. They're always done when I start anyway? (Default on?) 19:31 KikaRz marktraceur, to RagnarLoud 19:31 KikaRz it's annoying 19:32 PilzAdam telek, the inventory images are not rendered when you dont use preload_item_visuals; it makes loading of worlds really fast if the textures are cached 19:32 PilzAdam so only the node definitons need to be loaded 19:33 telek PilzAdam: Oh, interesting! Thanks. 19:33 telek What version was that added? 19:33 PilzAdam 0.4.4 19:34 Jordach shits, i crashed tekkit 19:35 telek PilzAdam: Neat, I'll add it to my conf file then. 19:36 Jordach PilzAdam, is my voice clear enough? or does it need mic specific tuning? 19:36 PilzAdam its in the settings menu 19:36 telek Oh even better. 19:36 PilzAdam Jordach, I can understand you but better sound quality is always welcome 19:36 telek I hope systemd dies a slow painful death. 19:36 Jordach PilzAdam, blame my xbox260 headset 19:36 Jordach 360* 19:37 KikaRz 260... 19:37 KikaRz let me search for that 19:38 marktraceur KikaRz: It's annoying that....he was saying "hi"? 19:38 marktraceur I just read the AfD log for [[:en:Minetest]], that was fascinating 19:38 KikaRz He spanned. 19:39 KikaRz 2 times 19:39 marktraceur KikaRz: 2 messages does not spam make. 19:39 KikaRz joining and leaving 19:40 marktraceur KikaRz: He clearly had connection troubles, that's life 19:40 PilzAdam but he dont have to say "Hi" on all joins 19:41 marktraceur PilzAdam: He doesn't have to, but entering a channel is usually a good time to say "Hi" :) 19:42 PilzAdam but not when pinging out 19:44 KikaRz not that 19:45 Jordach PilzAdam, i had a panic attack this morning 19:45 PilzAdam why? 19:46 Jordach lambmine 19:46 Jordach (yes, i wanna spin it) 19:46 KikaRz Idea for Creative 19:46 KikaRz spin it? 19:46 KikaRz o_o' 19:47 Jordach PilzAdam, there are three computers in this house, all of them being expensive, i dont want ANY OF THEM CMOS hacked or worse 19:47 Jordach thats the reason for the cloak now 19:48 DangerCoder Hi 19:48 Jordach (it also helps that he cant find my ip easy) 19:48 KikaRz ok 19:48 KikaRz good 19:48 KikaRz DangerCoder = OldCoder. Ok People? 19:48 KikaRz DOn't panic 19:48 KikaRz going to dinner! 19:48 DangerCoder Heh 19:48 KikaRz-Dinner BRB 19:48 DangerCoder It is just for a day 19:48 KikaRz-Dinner reason? 19:48 KikaRz-Dinner going to dinner 19:49 telek PilzAdam: Option is already enabled, still as slow as previous versions. 19:49 PilzAdam disable it 19:49 PilzAdam enabled is default 19:49 RagnarLaud Hi 19:49 PilzAdam and was default for every version before 0.4.4 19:49 RagnarLaud Hi adam 19:49 PilzAdam hey 19:49 Jordach DangerCoder, why the danger part? 19:50 RagnarLaud Hi jordach 19:50 Jordach hello 19:50 RagnarLaud im using a java phone to be here lol 19:51 Jordach RagnarLaud, when i responded to your post under the mito lets plays, i hit yours when i meant to hit mitos quote button 19:51 RagnarLaud Oh ok 19:51 RagnarLaud btw jordach, what do you think about the drugs mod? 19:52 Jordach have not used it 19:53 DangerCoder Jordach, I posted the relevant exchange on my blog. It is simply a fun diversion. 19:54 Jordach Old "Danger" Coder 19:54 * DangerCoder shrugs 19:54 thexyz DangerCoder: you may be interested https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/354 19:54 moltenbot thexyz's link: Added ability to fetch media from remote server (using cURL library) by xyzz ? Pull Request #354 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 19:54 DangerCoder Not as euphonius 19:54 DangerCoder thexyz, thank you! 19:55 DangerCoder euphonious * 19:55 thexyz minetest_game + ambience loads in ~15 seconds for me now 19:55 DangerCoder thexyz, Sounds good. But is that a default mode or is there a command line switch? I am looking at the diff now. 19:55 thexyz when media_fetch_threads is set to 8 (default) 19:56 thexyz it's enabled by default 19:56 PilzAdam thexyz, is it compatible with servers that not use this? 19:56 thexyz PilzAdam: should be 19:56 thexyz PilzAdam: you can also test and tell me 19:56 PilzAdam clients that not have this connected to servers 19:56 DangerCoder thexyz, is there a way to turn it off? And I will try to build and test Windows version shortly 19:56 thexyz DangerCoder: yes, you just -DENABLE_CURL=0, it 19:56 RagnarLaud Hi im back when i get disconnected then wait for a while 19:57 thexyz it'll also turn itself down when curl libraries are not found 19:57 DangerCoder thexyz, I mean at runtime; startup command line option switch 19:57 DangerCoder I assume not; but that is O.K. 19:57 DangerCoder Just wish to know 19:57 thexyz what do you mean? 19:57 RagnarLaud Hey jordach 19:57 thexyz why do you need to turn it off at runtime? 19:57 DangerCoder thexyz, debug and/or special cases 19:57 DangerCoder But never mind 19:57 RagnarLaud What do t think about drugs mod 19:57 DangerCoder I assume the answer is no 19:57 DangerCoder On with the show 19:58 DangerCoder I will try a Windows build today 19:58 thexyz so, server should have remote_media setting set to URL where media is located 19:58 DangerCoder thexyz, example? 19:58 thexyz http://minetest.ru/ambimedia/ 19:58 thexyz all files should be accessible like http://minetest.ru/ambimedia/character.png 19:58 RagnarLaud Hi thexyz 19:58 thexyz hello 19:58 DangerCoder thexyz, where would that be relative to minetest_game folder? 19:59 DangerCoder Isn't the media scattered about? 19:59 thexyz all textures/sounds/etc have different names, so that's not a problem 19:59 RagnarLaud Drugs beta is out did t know thexyz 19:59 thexyz you should copy everything from textures/, sounds/, models/ (something else?) 19:59 DangerCoder thexyz, not following. There is no single folder where the media is. 19:59 DangerCoder O.K. 19:59 thexyz yes 19:59 DangerCoder thexyz, so you are indicating that files should be symlinked into a single folder. 19:59 RagnarLaud Have t tried it yet 20:00 thexyz DangerCoder: right 20:00 DangerCoder thexyz, they are not all uniquely named though I think 20:00 thexyz they are 20:00 DangerCoder Is this the actual case? 20:00 DangerCoder Very well. Can try it 20:00 DangerCoder john_minetest, Hi! 20:00 RagnarLaud Well have you thexyz 20:01 thexyz RagnarLaud: link? 20:01 DangerCoder thexyz, I will attempt a build today. You will be asleep. I will let you know. 20:01 sema4 most people prefix the textures like modname_texturename.png, but some do not 20:01 thexyz DangerCoder: ok 20:01 thexyz i already tried to build it for windows 20:01 DangerCoder sema4, One solution might be to omit those files and let them default to usual mode 20:01 DangerCoder thexyz, would that work ^ 20:01 thexyz gave up, DLL hell and then access violation in trans_func 20:02 DangerCoder thexyz, if I detect overlapping names and do not symlink either copy what will happen? 20:02 thexyz DangerCoder: there are NO overlapping names 20:02 DangerCoder thexyz, see sema4 remark above 20:02 thexyz so what? 20:02 thexyz still 20:02 thexyz there're no overlapping names, period 20:03 thexyz if there are, server just sends some file 20:03 DangerCoder thexyz, you have worked and spent time. Thank you. I will attempt builds and report results. 20:03 thexyz ok 20:03 DangerCoder thexyz, humor me and answer a question. 20:03 DangerCoder If I omit a symlink will file be sent the usual way or will the server not fall back? 20:03 thexyz it will be send the usual way 20:03 DangerCoder Good 20:04 DangerCoder So this approach sits on top of the usual one? 20:04 DangerCoder And there is fallback 20:04 DangerCoder That is well 20:04 * DangerCoder nods 20:04 DangerCoder Sounds like something fun to try. I will do so. 20:04 thexyz yes, though it's better to use it for everything, that'll decrease server load 20:04 DangerCoder thexyz, yes. This is a technical question. Useful to know. 20:05 KikaRz-Dinner back 20:05 KikaRz-Dinner omg, 20:05 KikaRz-Dinner i'm shocked. 20:06 KikaRz That shooter killed 18 kids 20:06 KikaRz :'( 20:13 RagnarLaud Hi 20:13 RagnarLaud John query me 20:15 * DangerCoder is going for an errand and is sorry to hear about events. Back for all day in 30 to 90 minutes. 20:20 RagnarLaud Hi 20:21 paxcoder who griefed baembaem at gameboom's servers? 20:22 KikaRz I didnt 20:23 KikaRz RagnarLaud, stop spamming joining, leaving etc. 20:23 paxcoder by the looks of it, someone played with lava around my forest 20:23 EqualsRagnar Hi 20:23 paxcoder the whole ceiling was made of black-coloured wood 20:23 paxcoder it caught on fire 20:23 paxcoder burned entirely 20:24 paxcoder the nook burned too 20:24 EqualsRagnar Yeah no shit 20:24 paxcoder and even some of the inside 20:24 EqualsRagnar You dont say 20:25 paxcoder so who played with lava? 20:25 EqualsRagnar I did 20:25 paxcoder rose fence burned too in part 20:25 EqualsRagnar ikr 20:32 * RagnarLaud is watching jackass 3.5 20:41 paxcoder alright, so whoever burned it owes me (at least) 648 black wood, 132 saplings, 126 normal wood (though there was jungle wood involved too) 20:43 KikaRz not my problem. 20:43 KikaRz * RagnarLaud is watching jackass 3.5 20:43 KikaRz * RagnarLaud saiu (Remote host closed the connection) 20:49 marktraceur KikaRz: Don't harass someone who's having connection problems 20:49 KikaRz NOT ME 20:49 KikaRz How he cant have network problems, if its loading films and etc in the mobile? 20:49 KikaRz ... 20:49 paxcoder marktraceur, don't harass someone who has trolling problems 20:50 paxcoder marktraceur, don't harass someone who has spamming problems 20:50 paxcoder harras. 20:50 RagnarLaud Im watching jackass 3 and im laughting my ass off xD 20:50 marktraceur KikaRz: It happens. We just live with it. You can always turn of join/leave notifications for him if you want. 20:50 KikaRz !define offtopic 20:50 KikaRz moltenbot is offline. 20:50 RagnarLaud Who 20:50 paxcoder RagnarLaud, but you STILL want attention 20:51 marktraceur RagnarLaud: KikaRz is right about that, your film habits aren't really on topic. 20:51 paxcoder RagnarLaud, I can sell you a pill, looks like aspirin but i added attention in it. When you take it, so much attention hits you that you blush. 20:51 RagnarLaud Why yes, yes i do 20:51 paxcoder $400 per pill 20:51 paxcoder no guarantees (GPL) 20:51 paxcoder you get the ingredients, of course 20:52 RagnarLaud So its like ill pay you 400 bucks, and MAYBE ill live after that 20:52 paxcoder you can check the ingredients first 20:53 RagnarLaud Yo sup 20:53 paxcoder but your survival is not guaranteed, that's right 20:53 RagnarLaud Tomorrow 0.1.0 will be released 20:54 KikaRz ... 20:55 Muadtralk will it be used in conjunction with the weed mod? 20:58 KikaRz you forgot one 20:58 KikaRz cocain 21:06 paxcoder umm.. are you sure? 21:12 Jordach huh. 21:14 RagnarLaud Hi 21:15 RagnarLaud Is john_minetest here? 21:16 paxcoder what cuts trees best? 21:16 Muadtralk mese picks 21:17 paxcoder mese picks suck for the job 21:17 Muadtralk instant destruction of anything not fast enough? 21:17 Muadtralk wait.... 21:17 Muadtralk oh yeah they limited the mese pick 21:18 Muadtralk it still should tear through it pretty quickly 21:18 paxcoder i hope there's something quicker 21:18 Muadtralk only in mods 21:18 paxcoder mythrill perhaps? 21:18 Muadtralk ohhh! 21:18 Muadtralk are you on singleplayer? 21:20 paxcoder no 21:20 Muadtralk okay then nvm 21:20 Muadtralk mithril prolly is best 21:29 PilzAdam VanessaE, player texture: http://www.zimg.eu/i/1938587416 21:34 VanessaE PilzAdam: installed. I'll restart the server in a while 21:35 VanessaE PilzAdam: btw your signs mod has a bug: it violates node_ownership when placed (and it should disallow editing also). 21:36 PilzAdam that should be fixed in node_ownership and not in my mod 21:36 VanessaE your mod is probably using the wrong function to place the node 21:36 * VanessaE shrugs 21:37 VanessaE either way I had to remove it from my server :( 21:41 PilzAdam VanessaE, if node_ownership cant handle this its not a good mod 21:42 VanessaE well what's really needed is a proper hook into the engine to let mods like node_ownership intercept all methods of adding nodes. 21:42 KikaRz VanessaE, server? 21:43 VanessaE KikaRz: it's busy with worldedit. 21:43 KikaRz fixing shadows? 21:43 VanessaE tyes 21:43 VanessaE -t 21:43 EqualsRagnar Hi vanessae 21:43 KikaRz i could have temporarily world edit, to make the area better. 21:43 VanessaE hi 21:43 KikaRz but just you can have 21:43 VanessaE KikaRz: no one can have worldedit, it's too risky. 21:43 KikaRz im controlled. 21:44 VanessaE PilzAdam: you're using some function that node_ownership doesn't know how to trap 21:44 EqualsRagnar Im im th middle of a mod that will be fully released tomorrow 21:44 VanessaE even my homedecor knows to check for it before placing a door (=two nodes) 21:44 PilzAdam if its in lua-api.txt i will use it 21:44 KikaRz Vanessa, why the slabs are so bugged 21:44 VanessaE come on man, stop being so G*d damn stubborn. 21:44 KikaRz with the blocks ? 21:44 VanessaE KikaRz: eh? 21:44 PilzAdam also this is in a part of the mod i copied from thexyz 21:45 KikaRz the blocks are 1 slab distance on the top of it 21:45 VanessaE KikaRz: looks like I crashed the server :-/ 21:45 PilzAdam and why the heck cant i connect to your server? 21:45 KikaRz Lawl 21:45 KikaRz too dangerous: Reason: Hasta VanessaE puede crashar el servidor. 21:45 VanessaE try now, PilzAdam 21:45 PilzAdam ah 21:45 KikaRz (Its too dangerous because VanessaE can crash her own server. 21:46 VanessaE PilzAdam: worldedit is not very server-friendly :-) 21:46 EqualsRagnar Bye jackass is on 21:46 KikaRz for me its 21:46 KikaRz you dont know how to use it! :c 21:46 EqualsRagnar Be back soon 21:46 EqualsRagnar Bye 21:46 KikaRz its BBL (be back later.) 21:46 KikaRz not BBS. 21:46 KikaRz -.- 21:47 davidpace Realize how he did not say bbs 21:47 EqualsRagnar idc 21:47 EqualsRagnar Bye 21:47 davidpace Bye 21:47 KikaRz ncbttc 21:47 EqualsRagnar Hi david 21:47 KikaRz . 21:47 davidpace Hi 21:47 VanessaE KikaRz: it's an interaction between the //dig command and the particles mod. 21:47 EqualsRagnar Not gonna go 21:47 KikaRz DO NOT USE DIG 21:47 KikaRz USE //set air 21:47 marktraceur BBS == 'Bulletin Board System' 21:47 KikaRz VanessaE, you really don't know using WorldEdit 21:47 davidpace Nobody Said BBS! 21:48 VanessaE KikaRz: you have to use //dig to force the light to recalculate. 21:49 davidpace Hi Vanessa 21:50 VanessaE KikaRz, PilzAdam ok now. 21:50 VanessaE (I forgot to actually copy the skin into place)\ 21:50 KikaRz again? 21:51 KikaRz its restarted? 21:51 PilzAdam why dont i get the server shutting down message? 21:51 KikaRz not Ctrl + C 21:51 KikaRz maybe forced to quit 21:51 KikaRz and no saving 21:51 KikaRz 7 days left. 21:55 VanessaE PilzAdam: because I restart the server via a killall command when I run my update script. 21:56 OldCoder Hey 21:56 VanessaE hey 21:56 KikaRz You back to normal! 21:56 OldCoder Yes 21:57 OldCoder VanessaE, checked your world on 30017 ? 21:57 VanessaE OldCoder: not yet, will do now. 21:57 OldCoder k 21:57 OldCoder So far so good in general 22:00 davidpace Hey OldCoder! :D 22:00 OldCoder davidpace, Hi! 22:00 davidpace Could you give me interact privs on your PvP server? 22:04 RagnarLaud Hi 22:04 RagnarLaud Im back 22:04 OldCoder RagnarLaud, wb 22:04 KikaRz ... 22:04 OldCoder davidpace, coming right up 22:04 RagnarLaud What??? 22:05 OldCoder Welcome Back == wb 22:05 RagnarLaud Whats WB 22:05 RagnarLaud Oh 22:05 OldCoder Welcome Back is what it means 22:05 davidpace Alright Thanks 22:05 RagnarLaud mkay 22:05 OldCoder davidpace, what is your ingame nick there? 22:06 davidpace david 22:06 RagnarLaud Hey oldcoder 22:06 RagnarLaud Can you host a server 24 7? 22:06 OldCoder davidpace, done. Indicate any other servers you join later. 22:06 OldCoder RagnarLaud, I host about 18 of them. 22:07 OldCoder But I don't do "give me a blank world" without a good reason. The resources cost me money. 22:07 RagnarLaud Can i be the 19th? 22:07 OldCoder What do you have? 22:07 davidpace Thanks OldCoder 22:07 * OldCoder nods 22:07 OldCoder RagnarLaud, any special reason you can't build in the existing worlds? 22:07 RagnarLaud What??? 22:07 OldCoder See question 22:07 OldCoder It is fair. This stuff costs me money. 22:08 OldCoder cy1, hi 22:08 RagnarLaud Not that i cant but i want a 24 7 server until i get a new laptop and them i can host it myself 22:08 davidpace There are a lot of 24/7 servers up 22:08 RagnarLaud Oh ok... 22:09 davidpace Such as Vanessa's, Redcrabs 22:09 davidpace .. 22:09 davidpace I'm sure OldCoder has some 24/7 servers also 22:09 RagnarLaud I know, but non of them are cops and robbers 22:09 davidpace Theres also a thing called singlepleayer 22:09 OldCoder davidpace, Only 19 counting Europe :-) 22:09 davidpace You mean PvP 22:09 cy1 OldCoder: hi 22:10 davidpace Ragnar, You want Pvp? 22:10 cy1 cops and wut 22:10 RagnarLaud Hey oldcoder how do you host, dedicated server? 22:10 davidpace You Pay 22:10 OldCoder RagnarLaud, $$$ 22:10 * marktraceur doesn't understand, is there something other than a 24/7 server? 22:10 OldCoder marktraceur, Yes 22:11 RagnarLaud Im making a minetest game called cops and robbers 22:11 cy1 RagnarLaud: so, would that be a server which has locked chests disabled or something? 22:11 OldCoder marktraceur, People try to do this using their home PCs 22:11 marktraceur Then what's the point? 22:11 cy1 OldCoder: Like meeeeee 22:11 OldCoder marktraceur, ^ 22:11 cy1 You pay for your home PC more than a server though 22:11 OldCoder How so? 22:11 cy1 It's just an unavoidable cost for me. 22:11 marktraceur So do I, what's the problem with that? Does somebody at the power company turn off your electricity at night? 22:11 cy1 OldCoder: like $40 a month for ISP whatevers. 22:11 cy1 40? 80? I dunno. 22:11 RagnarLaud Nope anybody can grief, steal etc and will be put to jail 22:11 OldCoder marktraceur, quite often it's difficult to keep a home server and connection running 22:12 RagnarLaud But BBL 22:12 OldCoder cy1, yes 22:12 cy1 RagnarLaud: That's true of all servers. 22:12 marktraceur OldCoder: That's very strange. 22:12 cy1 though jail = no interact 22:12 RagnarLaud Jackass is on 22:12 RagnarLaud Bye 22:13 OldCoder c u 22:13 OldCoder marktraceur, not strange at all 22:13 OldCoder marktraceur, talk to Zeg9. His server was part time til I took it over. 22:13 davidpace OldCoder Loves this game. 22:14 marktraceur Huh. 22:14 cy1 I want to pay less to my ISP for less bandwidth, and get a VPS somewhere with the extra money. But the person who handles the bills is like uh-uh that sounds too strange and risky. And my ISP is like "would you like MORE download (fuck you about upload) no we don't have any deals for low bw you moron you want MORE" 22:14 marktraceur OldCoder: I mean, it's strange that you can't keep a home internet connection up 22:14 cy1 plus I can't find a good VPS 22:14 marktraceur OldCoder: I had at least 98% uptime when I hosted my server at home 22:14 cy1 and 22:14 cy1 so basically I'm stuck with god damned Frontier as my VPS 22:14 davidpace You can keep internet connection up, its just his internet will take 10 years to start up if hes running all 19 servers 22:15 davidpace *INternet Browser 22:15 davidpace Am I wrong? 22:15 cy1 davidpace: that's why you need a room full of computers :T 22:15 davidpace Not everyone has the money for that, for instance, me 22:16 OldCoder davidpace, Actually speed is not a problem if you have a reasonable amount of RAM and a fast PC 22:16 OldCoder One PC can host a number of MT servers 22:16 OldCoder It needs optimized configurations though 22:17 davidpace So, running a server doesn't slow your computer down by much? 22:17 OldCoder I also recommend LevelDB 22:17 OldCoder It does! 22:17 OldCoder So MT plus watch videos not recommended etc. 22:17 davidpace Okay 22:17 OldCoder Personal PC not advisable for MT server 22:17 OldCoder Should be dedicated 22:17 OldCoder But a dual core with a few gig of RAM will work quite well 22:18 VanessaE OldCoder: seems to work okay for me, crappy (if fast) internet aside. 22:18 mauvebic 3gigs? 22:18 marktraceur davidpace: Well obviously, if you're running many servers, you should spring for more than one machine, and some nicer bandwidth. 22:18 davidpace Yes, Mark 22:18 OldCoder c u 22:19 OldCoder mauvebic, Hi! 22:19 mauvebic left and came back :p 22:19 mauvebic (switched pcs) 22:19 OldCoder All right 22:19 OldCoder Glad to C U regardless 22:19 mauvebic you too 22:19 mauvebic me too? 22:19 mauvebic my english sucks 22:20 mauvebic my bandwidth is unlimited 22:20 mauvebic but no one on the outside can connect 22:20 davidpace He is happy to see you 22:20 davidpace Alright, I'll get off for now. 22:20 mauvebic i have a modem uplinked to a router so the setup is bizarre to figure out lol 22:21 davidpace Bye Guys, And Girls (if there are any) :-) 22:21 OldCoder C U 22:21 mauvebic even when i place the server computer in the 'DMZ' outside calls arent routed 22:23 mauvebic lan IP's, Wan IPs, gateways... lol could use a networking course 22:26 bbcccd 66.187.92.66:30000 (works?) 22:27 KikaRz VanessaE 22:27 KikaRz !up 66.187.92.66 22:27 moltenbot Minetest server 66.187.92.66:30000 DOWN 22:28 KikaRz it's down bbcccd 22:28 bbcccd damn 22:29 bbcccd !up 66.187.92.66 22:29 moltenbot Minetest server 66.187.92.66:30000 UP 22:29 bbcccd there we go 22:29 marktraceur bbcccd: Stick around a while 22:29 bbcccd its mauvebic 22:30 bbcccd dont know why i cant take my own name 22:30 bbcccd prolly cuz i pulled the plug on my router lol 22:30 marktraceur Well, it was logged in before, but timed out now 22:30 bbcccd lesson learned: place computer in DMZ, set up NAT on modem 22:31 bbcccd god knows when ill need it i wont remember lol 22:32 cy1 lesson: IRC nick names are not a strong form of identity. Use public keys. 22:32 cy1 learned: ??? 22:32 bbcccd hmm, someone just tried to connect but it timed out, thats cuz of the media i imagine? 22:32 bbcccd public keys??? 22:32 cy1 media doesn't cause timeouts 22:32 cy1 bbcccd: yes indeedy 22:32 bbcccd i cant even remember my facebook password, enough accounts ty 22:32 cy1 0ac7da56 22:32 cy1 8 digits I had to memorize 22:32 bbcccd what causes timeouts then? 22:33 cy1 clients crashing... 22:33 cy1 I dunno. 22:33 cy1 nets 22:33 bbcccd allright, now that that works, whats the best free dyn dns? 22:34 cy1 afraid.org 22:34 mrtux I agree 22:34 mrtux I used to use afraid.org 22:34 mrtux but now i use cloudflare 22:34 cy1 other than that I only know dyndns.org :/ 22:34 bbcccd though my ISP only refreshes my IP once every two months unless i release it myself lol 22:34 mrtux No-ip isn't that good. 22:35 bbcccd dyndns was the only one i knew of but it looked somewhat sketch 22:35 mrtux I can't find the signup page anyore 22:35 mrtux *anymore 22:35 RagnarLaud Hi im back 22:35 bbcccd http://freedns.afraid.org/signup/ 22:35 moltenbot bbcccd's link: Create your account 22:36 RagnarLaud What page? 22:36 marktraceur RagnarLaud: We saw 22:36 cy1 dyndns only has the domain .dyndns.org and no NS forwarding, and it dies if you don't send them a bump every 30 days. 22:36 mrtux Welcome back, RagnarLaud 22:36 bbcccd a bump of what? 22:36 cy1 afraid is p. cool, and their paid options are nice too 22:36 mrtux yep 22:36 cy1 bbcccd: like, a script that updates your record there 22:36 RagnarLaud Thanks mrtux 22:36 mrtux I want to use them again :( 22:36 mrtux I have to use cloudflare now though 22:36 * mrtux isn't very happy 22:37 bbcccd meh, i dont need a dns that can wipe my ass and check my emails, i just need forwarding to my IP adress lol 22:37 RagnarLaud Hey who wants to be a beta tester for my mod? 22:37 cy1 either one then bbcccd. 22:37 cy1 I only needed NS records because goddamned jabber is a goddamned horrible DNS monstrosity 22:37 cy1 RagnarLaud: what mod 22:38 RagnarLaud Hey who wants to be the first to get stoned im minetest with my mod? 22:38 bbcccd i once kept all my account info in a passworded zip file.... then i lost the password lol 22:38 cy1 sorry my minetest is a glass house 22:38 RagnarLaud [Mod]drugs[drugs] 22:38 cy1 touch fuzzy get dizzy? 22:39 RagnarLaud Ill release the mod tomorrow 22:39 marktraceur RagnarLaud: That'll make it hard for people to test it until then 22:39 RagnarLaud What? 22:39 mrtux bbcccd, you can probably decrypt the password 22:39 bbcccd argh! 22:39 mrtux or even the zip archive for that matter 22:39 bbcccd locked out 22:39 bbcccd those stupid recaptchas 22:40 * mrtux hates recaptcha 22:40 RagnarLaud Hey what fuzzy and dizzy? 22:40 bbcccd seriously its only like 12 year olds who can read them 22:40 cy1 ur mom 22:40 bbcccd 24" screen and i still cant figure it out 22:40 * RagnarLaud LOVES CAPTCHA 22:40 * cy1 prefers word problems to captcha 22:41 bbcccd tseteniM! 22:41 bbcccd i know by heart now lol 22:42 RagnarLaud You do know it doesnt need a capital m right? 22:42 bbcccd ok so once im signed up it takes me to a subdomain page 22:42 bbcccd am i supposed to create a sub or a domain? 22:44 cy1 bbcccd: subdomains. domains are donated. 22:44 RagnarLaud Hi im back 22:44 RagnarLaud I crashed 22:48 bbcccd !up mauvebic.strangled.net 22:48 moltenbot Minetest server mauvebic.strangled.net:30000 UP 22:48 bbcccd sweet 22:48 bbcccd ok the bot works by logging in 22:49 bbcccd thats the timeout user lol 22:49 cy1 OldCoder: update your mesecons to the latest. there's a pistons bug I ran into that I think is fixed. 22:52 OldCoder cy1, k 22:52 OldCoder In a few minutes 22:52 OldCoder You can test for me 22:53 VanessaE zzz 22:53 bbcccd coffee? 22:53 VanessaE I wish :-) 22:53 * VanessaE is tired. 22:54 marktraceur VanessaE: Cheer up! It are Friday! 22:54 * marktraceur is going to have a nice relaxing evening of TV and minetest 22:54 bbcccd cheer up (avoid the news) 22:54 marktraceur Possibly substitute one or two hours of nerf war. But that's subject to participation of others. 22:54 bbcccd nerf on minetest? 22:54 marktraceur bbcccd: No, in real life 22:54 bbcccd oh lol 22:55 marktraceur bbcccd: We had a holiday party last night and wound up warring in an art gallery 22:55 VanessaE OldCoder: please re-download world and game again. Updated. 22:55 VanessaE wait..not yet.. 22:56 OldCoder O.K. NP 22:56 OldCoder Say when 22:56 VanessaE hit enter too soon :-) 22:56 cy1 OldCoder: will do 22:56 telek We need more metadata in mod packages. 22:56 VanessaE OldCoder: ok, now. 22:58 VanessaE OldCoder: say when and I will log in and check it out. 22:58 cy1 OldCoder: ready to test whenever you are 22:58 marktraceur telek: Like what? 22:59 telek marktraceur: Mostly version information, maybe some sort of API/ABI version number, just stuff to help avoid incompatibilities now that people are running 30+ mods on the average server? 22:59 bbcccd im only running 7-8 mods on mine 23:00 telek bbcccd: Any of those modpacks? 23:00 bbcccd my modpack yeah lol 23:01 marktraceur telek: Application Brogramming Interface? 23:01 telek Application Binary Interface :D 23:01 marktraceur Ah. 23:01 telek IE if data structures have changed or whatnot. 23:01 OldCoder cy1, VanessaE very well to both of you. Allow 15 to 30 minutes. I will post here again. 23:02 marktraceur telek: Agreed. Hence my consistent requests for a package manager. Nobody else seems interested, really. 23:02 bbcccd because no one can agree how it should be setup :/ 23:02 OldCoder marktraceur, my frameworks are evolving in that direction 23:02 bbcccd and we have 2 or 3 partially complete systems i think 23:03 telek Gotta say we're a pretty good example for why Tarn said he didn't want to open source Dwarf Fortress 'until it was finished' :D 23:04 bbcccd well eventually a clear favorite will emerge and that will become standard 23:04 telek If everybody doesn't have a common vision then you can end up with everybody implementing the desired features, but none of the features actually working together :) 23:04 bbcccd i doubt all the lifeforms on this earth were meant to compliment eachother, but here we are lol 23:05 bbcccd brb 23:06 mauvebic 420time, feel free to grief my test map in the meantime :P (mauvebic.strangled.net:30000) 23:08 OldCoder mauvebic, is that the 100MB one? 23:09 OldCoder Link that again 23:09 jordan4ibanez idk, should i rename my mod shitting santas lol 23:09 OldCoder I am going to host it 23:09 mauvebic no no no but i can start that one if you want to visit 23:09 OldCoder It is online IIRC 23:09 mauvebic when? ill need to upload a newer version 23:09 OldCoder Where is the demo page you asked me to review the other day? 23:09 OldCoder Go ahead 23:09 OldCoder Can be today if you wish 23:09 * OldCoder is in a Minetest Mood 23:10 mauvebic the modpack was updated today, gimme half an hour to upload the map (takes a while at 120mb) lol 23:10 OldCoder No rush! 23:10 OldCoder I will be here for hours 23:10 OldCoder And there are other tasks first 23:10 mauvebic me too still pretty early in the day 23:10 OldCoder Good 23:10 OldCoder You are not in France etc. then 23:10 mauvebic Quebec :-) in the country 23:10 OldCoder All right 23:11 OldCoder So take your time and let's see if the thing runs for me 23:11 OldCoder Prepare a modpack, some notes and remarks, and a ZIP of the world tree 23:11 mauvebic though dont mind the name of the world, it was like the 20th test map i had started that day lol 23:11 PilzAdam gtg; bye 23:11 OldCoder It can be called Mauvebic 23:11 OldCoder Or Satan's Sweat 23:11 OldCoder As you prefer 23:11 mauvebic i cant rename the world without crashing the client lol 23:12 OldCoder Hmm? 23:12 mauvebic any name other than whats already there lol 23:12 * OldCoder shrugs 23:12 cy1 santa's sweets? 23:12 OldCoder c u in a bit 23:12 cy1 mauvebic: connected btw 23:12 OldCoder That is confusing 23:12 mauvebic hehe nvm youll see later ;P 23:12 mauvebic cyl try the white guns :p 23:12 cy1 still 0% media :/ 23:14 mauvebic still 0 now? 23:14 cy1 yayyy 2% 23:14 mauvebic jesus 23:14 mauvebic i have to get rid of those musical paintings in riventest 23:14 cy1 if you clear your cache and login to your world, your cache size will be the media size, 23:15 mauvebic dont understand :/ 23:15 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQFLaHFVMcw 23:15 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Minetest (Free PC Sandbox RPG Game): FreePCGamers Game Watch - YouTube 23:17 OldCoder 23:17 OldCoder VanessaE, how confident are you with Plant Life presently? 23:17 VanessaE satisfied. 23:17 OldCoder How safe do you feel it may be? 23:17 OldCoder Do you trust it yet? 23:18 VanessaE it's been working flawlessly on my server so I guess i can trust it :-) 23:18 OldCoder But only the one server? Has anybody else tried it? 23:18 VanessaE well, 23:18 telek Is there a mod which readds rats, or are they gone now? 23:18 OldCoder Not redcrab yet? 23:18 OldCoder telek, reads rats? 23:18 VanessaE neko259 refactored nature pack to use it 23:18 VanessaE and it is now part of that mod 23:18 OldCoder VanessaE, ah! 23:18 telek OldCoder: re-adds. 23:19 VanessaE so anyone who has nature pack has plantlife. 23:19 OldCoder VanessaE, should I use nature pack? 23:19 VanessaE at least if theit copy is recent. 23:19 cy1 69% 23:19 VanessaE no, don't use nature pack yet 23:19 OldCoder VanessaE, in the future then? 23:19 VanessaE it isn't stable yet. 23:19 VanessaE yeah, in the future it'll be. 23:19 cy1 OldCoder: it's working on my server no problem 23:19 OldCoder VanessaE, but Plant Life may be approaching stable? 23:19 OldCoder cy1, ty 23:19 VanessaE plantlife is stable. 23:19 telek I used to have rats in one of my old worlds, but they apparently got removed at some point (we had them as pets in a cage in-world) 23:19 cy1 AND NO POISON IVY >:( 23:20 OldCoder VanessaE, I saw crashes but may be unrelated. Comment on rat for telek. Tell me again which mods to delete if I add plantlife right now. And link again to plantlife latest. 23:20 VanessaE cy1: delete the poisonivy folder from plantlife and it will go away :-) 23:20 mauvebic cyl should be faster next time, dumped about 4mb of useless sounds 23:20 OldCoder VanessaE, thexyz may have fixed the ambience speed problem 23:20 OldCoder For Linux clients at least 23:20 VanessaE OldCoder: a server and game update are forthcoming. 23:20 VanessaE some nitwit poured lava near a large grove of trees and started a forest fire. 23:21 VanessaE I'm cleaning up the mess now. 23:21 VanessaE and I disabled fire. 23:21 VanessaE (now) 23:21 OldCoder VanessaE, fine. I will be away for 10 minutes. Then I will update mesecons, add plantlife, update your world and game folder, and was there anything else? 23:21 VanessaE when you update mesecons, delete the command block from it. 23:21 OldCoder Indicate old mods to delete when plantlife is added. Also link to be safe to latest release. 23:21 VanessaE (just delete the folder containing it) 23:21 OldCoder VanessaE, explain; please 23:22 VanessaE ok, when you return we'll discuss it 23:22 OldCoder k 23:22 VanessaE I gotta clena up this mess 23:22 OldCoder bbiab 23:23 jordan4ibanez see what i said about blocks being placed inside yourself? 23:23 jordan4ibanez that is the main issue everyone is talking about 23:26 mauvebic i think my server crashed lol 23:26 cy1 yeep 23:26 mauvebic floor gen lol 23:27 mauvebic bookcases everywhere lol 23:27 cy1 your stuff has weird item IDs :/ 23:27 cy1 oh god I'm sorry 23:27 mauvebic lol its a test server 23:27 cy1 I was like "wtf this isn't doing anything" 23:27 mauvebic you should see the damage i do with nukes lol 23:27 mauvebic turn a sea into an ocean 23:27 cy1 Sounds like a good way to get rid of bookcases 23:28 mauvebic you mean about the number IDs? 23:28 mauvebic yeah i couldn't come up with 60 nodenames if i tried lol 23:29 cy1 for my next trick I will set this on fire 23:29 mauvebic *83 nodenames actually lol 23:30 cy1 eeeeee green flame 23:30 mauvebic burns more than wood 23:31 marktraceur OldCoder: I'm still not convinced that you're building a package manager so much as a build system 23:32 marktraceur OldCoder: Both are great, but a package manager would be far more helpful for, say, end users 23:32 cy1 think I killed it again 23:32 mauvebic how many nukes? lol 23:32 cy1 not the nukes, the fire 23:33 cy1 fire's a huge hog, and forkbombs any server 23:33 cy1 you should see my fire mod 23:33 cy1 lets you shut off fire propogation :B 23:33 mauvebic my fire only has one abm at interval 10 23:33 mauvebic its the shapes in the mushroom cloud that lags things abit 23:33 mauvebic spheroid + hyperboloid + torus.....=shitton of math 23:33 cy1 hm... 23:34 cy1 math. not even once. 23:35 mauvebic in essence i should shrink both nukes abit so the small one is the big one 23:35 cy1 OldCoder: sorry I'm out of time I gotta go. 23:38 mauvebic *uploading world.zip (13%)* 23:39 jordan4ibanez celeron55, when i make a hostile mob with an api, can it please be put into the default game? 23:39 jordan4ibanez = survival elements 23:40 mauvebic +1 23:40 OldCoder cy1, c u 23:41 * OldCoder proceeds with work 23:41 mauvebic ttyl cyl 23:42 OldCoder mauvebic, indicate link 23:42 OldCoder Can PM if you wish 23:42 OldCoder VanessaE, indicate plantlife link and mesecons change plus list of mods to remove for plantlife 23:43 mauvebic will do (30%) 23:44 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3898 23:44 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [Mod] Plantlife [20121130] [plantlife] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 23:44 VanessaE remove flowers, junglegrass, poisonivy, then install that ^^^^^ 23:45 mauvebic one of these days ill write a new hydro from scratch lol my old textures were so bleh 23:45 mauvebic looks bad when everything else is 64 23:45 VanessaE mauvebic: you ever see the textures I made for your original OCD and powerlines mods? they were kickass 23:46 mauvebic with the computers i had last year 64px wasnt really viable :/ 23:46 OldCoder VanessaE, ty and what is the mesecons change? 23:46 mauvebic i had crap FPS with defaults lol 23:46 VanessaE delete command block 23:46 mauvebic (46%) 23:47 OldCoder VanessaE, can you explain? 23:47 VanessaE it's a security vulnerability when I last heard. 23:47 OldCoder I mean... 23:47 OldCoder How to make the change 23:48 OldCoder Context of lines to delete 23:49 VanessaE just delete the folder containing it. 23:49 VanessaE mesecons is a modpack 23:49 VanessaE so just delete the mesecons_commandblock folder. 23:49 OldCoder Ah 23:49 OldCoder Simple 23:49 OldCoder VanessaE, is your world updated? 23:50 VanessaE no 23:50 OldCoder k 23:50 OldCoder Indicate when 23:50 VanessaE I'm cleaning up from a forest fire. 23:50 OldCoder k 23:50 VanessaE some poured lava near a big grove of trees, now I'm cleaning it up. 23:50 VanessaE some nitwit* 23:51 telek Can modpacks be nested? 23:51 VanessaE dunno 23:51 VanessaE probably not 23:52 mauvebic doesnt your node protection stop people form pouring lava above y = 0? 23:54 mauvebic register on placenode(pos,node) if node.name lavasource and pos.y > 0 then remove node 23:55 OldCoder mauvebic, I have a mod for that 23:56 OldCoder Hmm 23:56 OldCoder Not sure it is in my standard set yet 23:57 mauvebic i have a mod that makes water expand at y<= 0 23:57 mauvebic otherwise when i remove continents the oceans stand there looking square and daft lol 23:59 mauvebic though when we hit an underground river when building our 1st underground city the whole cavern flooded lol