Time Nick Message 00:00 Octupus can some1 tell me what is on 4.4 00:00 Octupus hi VanessaE srry i missed ya :D 00:00 VanessaE nothing. 00:00 VanessaE 4.4 doesn't exist. 00:00 VanessaE maybe you meant ZERO POINT FOUR POINT FOUR ? 00:00 VanessaE :-) 00:00 Octupus yes that :D 00:01 VanessaE 3d players, fancy shaders, various tweaks to the game content, bugfixes 00:01 Octupus O cool 00:02 Octupus does it use the 1 Taoki made 00:02 VanessaE yep 00:02 Octupus cool 00:02 Octupus can we do 3d person view also? 00:02 VanessaE not third-person view, no 00:03 VanessaE you can't see yourself 00:03 Octupus o 00:03 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1239210256.png 00:03 VanessaE the default skin ^^^ 00:03 Octupus nice 00:03 Octupus van iheard u had a server 00:04 VanessaE yeah 00:04 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000 00:04 Octupus may i play on it? 00:04 VanessaE it's slow and laggy but you're welcome to log on and build something 00:04 Octupus :D 00:04 VanessaE here's the skin I use thereon: http://www.9minecraft.net/girl-skin/ 00:05 VanessaE (I have the player_textures mod) 00:05 Octupus hi babyface1031 00:05 Octupus cool vanessa 00:05 VanessaE evening babyface. 00:05 babyface1031 VanessaE: Octupus hi 00:06 Octupus lala waitng for media :) 00:06 VanessaE it'll take a while 00:06 VanessaE there's lots of media to download. 00:07 Octupus im at 60 something 00:07 VanessaE moving along decently then 00:07 Octupus yep 00:08 Octupus ok im loading now :) 00:09 MiJyn VanessaE, what kind of shaders? 00:09 VanessaE MiJyn: mostly lighting changes 00:09 MiJyn oh 00:09 MiJyn lol 00:09 VanessaE tops of blocks are lighter, water is a little lower than surrounding blocks 00:09 Octupus we got that technic loading :) 00:09 VanessaE Octupus: and more yet :-) 00:10 Octupus finish 00:10 Octupus i get connaot load mesh 00:10 VanessaE stupid attach bug! 00:10 VanessaE hold plz, lemme see if I can free you 00:10 Octupus shud i redownload 0.4.4 to fix the problem 00:10 Octupus ok 00:11 Taoki Anyone know why the minetest forum doesn't send me email notifications of replies for some time any more, even when I enable that feature? 00:11 VanessaE Octupus: sign out/in 00:11 * marktraceur waves 00:11 VanessaE Octupus: are you running 0.4.4-dev? 00:11 marktraceur For those who haven't weighed in, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3960 00:11 moltenbot marktraceurs link: Package management in Minetest (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 00:11 Octupus VanessaE,im using sfan5 1 00:12 VanessaE I dunno how new his is 00:12 Octupus did c55 make a official release for 0.4.4 00:13 VanessaE not yet 00:13 VanessaE and if he doesn't fix this attachment bug 0.4.4 is dead in the water 00:13 Octupus does this happen alot 00:13 VanessaE yes 00:13 marktraceur Octupus: There are no alots in here! 00:13 Octupus lolz 00:13 * marktraceur shakes his head condescendingly 00:14 khonkhortisan Well, when Alot gets here we'll ask him if this _does_ happen 00:14 Octupus can u see me on the server Vanessa 00:14 marktraceur Octupus: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html 00:14 VanessaE Octupus: yes, but you're stuck on a sign. 00:14 VanessaE I'm right next to you 00:14 Octupus your invisible 00:14 VanessaE you're using too old of a build of minetest 00:15 VanessaE you *must* use 0.4.4-dev on this server, preferably get it from github 00:15 Octupus let me show u where i got it from 00:16 khonkhortisan a47b82904041584da71e8d8489385a322d3de5cb and then some! 00:16 Octupus VanessaE, http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ 00:16 moltenbot Octupuss link: Sfan5's Minetest Builds 00:17 VanessaE which one of those did you use, Octupus ? 00:17 Octupus the top 1 00:17 VanessaE that's too old. 00:18 VanessaE hold plz 00:18 Octupus ok :) 00:18 VanessaE http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-dev-a47b829-win32.7z 00:18 VanessaE that one's the newest 00:18 VanessaE and in fact is current. 00:18 Octupus gracias 00:19 khonkhortisan the top one is about 30 revisions behind 00:19 khonkhortisan it's so current I'm still compiling it 00:19 * VanessaE updates to latest git also 00:19 Octupus he used winrar so i used it to :) 00:20 VanessaE (I'm a couple revisions behind) 00:20 VanessaE Octupus: denada. 00:20 Octupus :D 00:21 VanessaE Octupus: server is updated and restarted 00:21 VanessaE you may log back in at your convenience, but make sure you are using the build I pointed to,. 00:21 Octupus i just extracted it im going to try now 00:22 VanessaE ok 00:22 VanessaE Unified Inventory. inventory size: 1608 00:22 VanessaE hoo that's a lot of stuff :-) 00:22 Octupus yep 00:23 Octupus so much blocks u built :D 00:23 VanessaE (and that's *after* trimming out about 400 unneeded items) 00:23 Muadtralk 0.0 I only had 1682 items 00:23 Octupus :O 00:24 Octupus VanessaE,u love lua :D 00:24 Muadtralk 400 you say? 00:24 VanessaE well I like it anyway 00:24 Muadtralk you must be bonkers 00:24 VanessaE Muadtralk: certifiable :-) 00:25 Muadtralk really? I've tried to get certified there are actually alot of prerequisites 00:25 Octupus wow im at 70% already 00:25 VanessaE yup :-) 00:25 marktraceur VanessaE: Have you seen the package manegement discussion? Didn't I link you to it? 00:25 VanessaE marktraceur: yes I saw but I'm waiting a while before I weigh in. 00:25 marktraceur *nod* K 00:26 marktraceur So long as you're in the conversation, fine 00:26 Octupus did i just see a golden toilet on the server van 00:26 VanessaE golden? doubt it 00:27 Octupus well everything in the textures turns out golden 00:27 VanessaE Octupus: turn off shaders. 00:27 Octupus O 00:27 VanessaE Settings tab in the game's main menu. 00:27 Octupus O 00:27 Octupus thank you 00:27 VanessaE np. 00:28 * VanessaE argues with some code... 00:30 Octupus yay i get to see now 00:31 VanessaE good :-) 00:33 Octupus the server is creative? 00:34 VanessaE yup 00:35 babyface1031 ok got to go for now laptop dying migh tbe on in a bit or tomorrow 00:41 VanessaE Octupus: I'll put it back up in a sec. 00:41 Octupus k 00:42 Octupus i gtg for tonight bye 00:42 Octupus_says_bye thanks vanessa for showing me the server 00:42 VanessaE you're wel.. 00:42 VanessaE ...come. 00:47 MiJyn is there any way to chat using only the server? 00:47 MiJyn like a server-wide msg? 00:47 MiJyn without loading the client? 00:47 VanessaE MiJyn: not as far as I know. I wish there were, in fact. 00:48 MiJyn hmm 00:48 VanessaE the closest is that IRC mod that...who was it was working on? 00:48 VanessaE jin_xi maybe? 00:48 MiJyn where is it? 00:48 MiJyn how does it work? 00:48 jin-xi kaeza 00:48 VanessaE right, duh 00:49 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905 00:49 moltenbot VanessaEs link: [Mod] IRC Chat (W.I.P.) [0.1.1] [irc] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 00:50 mrtux http://minetest.net 00:50 moltenbot mrtuxs link: About - Minetest 00:50 mrtux heh 00:57 LandMineMT wasssup 01:01 marktraceur LandMineMT: What up, dawg? 01:06 kaeza hello 01:06 VanessaE MiJyn: ah, the guilty party arrives ;) 01:06 kaeza ? 01:06 marktraceur kaeza: Yo yo yo, what it is? 01:06 VanessaE hey kaeza :-) 01:06 kaeza wassup guys? 01:06 VanessaE kaeza: the IRC mod is your fault ;) 01:07 kaeza sorry I wasn't able to connect 01:07 kaeza VanessaE: waht? 01:07 VanessaE nevermind, just trying to make a joke :-) 01:07 kaeza yup 01:07 kaeza It's my fault 01:08 kaeza what PC did it break this time? :) 01:08 VanessaE lol 01:09 bulletrulz google.com 01:09 bulletrulz http://google.com 01:09 kaeza .g irc chat minetewst 01:09 marktraceur bulletrulz: We're familiar with it 01:09 kaeza hmmm 01:09 bulletrulz !g irc 01:09 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat 01:09 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Internet Relay Chat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:09 * marktraceur sighs 01:09 kaeza !g irc chat minetest 01:09 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3905 01:09 bulletrulz !g Im awesome 01:09 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: [Mod] IRC Chat (W.I.P.) [0.1.1] [irc] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 01:09 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYws8biwOYc 01:10 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Spose - I'm Awesome - YouTube 01:10 VanessaE hah 01:10 kaeza YAY! first hit on GOOGOL 01:10 bulletrulz !g porn 01:10 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: Gross! 01:10 bulletrulz lol 01:10 bulletrulz :D 01:10 bulletrulz !g sex 01:10 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: Gross! 01:10 bulletrulz dammit 01:10 bulletrulz lol 01:10 kaeza !g pr0n 01:10 Minetest-tan kaeza: Gross! 01:10 bulletrulz !g gay 01:10 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay 01:10 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Gay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:10 bulletrulz tlol 01:10 bulletrulz !g gay p o r n 01:10 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://gay.porn.com/ 01:10 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Gay Porn, The Best Free Gay Porn Tube Site GAY.PORN.COM 01:10 bulletrulz lol 01:10 bulletrulz !:D 01:11 bulletrulz xD 01:11 VanessaE haha 01:11 kaeza !kill self 01:11 bulletrulz xD 01:11 bulletrulz !g nigger 01:11 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger 01:11 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Nigger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:11 bulletrulz llol 01:11 bulletrulz !g p o r n 01:11 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.pornhub.com/ 01:11 kaeza !g stahp 01:11 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Free Porn Videos & Sex Movies - Porno, XXX, Porn Tube and Pussy Porn 01:11 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/stahp 01:11 bulletrulz lol 01:11 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Stahp | Know Your Meme 01:11 bulletrulz :D 01:12 kaeza hmmm 01:12 bulletrulz !tw nigger 01:12 Minetest-tan Hey followers. What's really hood? (@nigger) 01:12 bulletrulz lol 01:12 kaeza anything new in the game? 01:13 VanessaE *sigh* 01:13 bulletrulz !tw cocaine 01:13 Minetest-tan I know your name. But, I'd prefer to call you, Mine. (@cocaine) 01:13 VanessaE kaeza: nothing new lately 01:13 bulletrulz loll 01:13 marktraceur http://marktraceur.info/testing.html 01:13 moltenbot marktraceurs link: http://marktraceur.info/testing.html 01:13 bulletrulz !tw nikimanaj 01:13 Minetest-tan Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/nikimanaj?1354756395.58 (@nikimanaj) 01:13 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: khalid Adams (NikiManaj) auf Twitter 01:13 marktraceur Hm, it's smart. 01:13 marktraceur And by smart 01:13 marktraceur I mean only marginally smart. 01:13 VanessaE kaeza: except that attachments/entities are totally b0rk3d ;-/ 01:13 kaeza wot? 01:13 kaeza hmmm 01:14 bulletrulz !g death 01:14 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death 01:14 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Death - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:14 kaeza marktraceur: what is that link? 01:14 bulletrulz !g ass 01:14 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://thechive.com/2012/05/30/sweet-ass-its-hump-day-already-60-photos/ 01:14 bulletrulz lol 01:14 bulletrulz !g fuck u 01:14 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://fuckyouverymuch.dk/ 01:14 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: fuck you very much 01:14 bulletrulz lol 01:14 bulletrulz :DDDDX 01:14 bulletrulz XD 01:15 bulletrulz one bot told another fuck u 01:15 kaeza ... 01:15 khonkhortisan I wouldn't ban people for talking about religion, but I would ban them for deviant porn. 01:15 kaeza (areyoufuckingkiddingme.jpg) 01:15 khonkhortisan nope 01:15 khonkhortisan ^meme 01:16 khonkhortisan I mean, meme.jpg 01:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what's wrong with good, clean porn? :-) 01:16 kaeza I've been playing with the CMakeLists 01:16 bulletrulz !g the miz 01:16 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miz 01:16 bulletrulz lol 01:17 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: The Miz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:17 khonkhortisan keep looking at it, and you find some that isn't good and clean 01:17 kaeza made the compilation take half the time 01:17 VanessaE khonkhortisan: heh, I've seen plenty at both ends of the scale (depending on how you define it) 01:17 bulletrulz !yt ytp 01:17 bulletrulz !g youtube poop 01:17 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/youtube-poop 01:17 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: YouTube Poop | Know Your Meme 01:17 marktraceur !g LOL I CAN USE T3H BOTS TOO 01:17 Minetest-tan marktraceur: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Katy 01:18 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Katy - Encyclopedia Dramatica 01:18 VanessaE you know, sooner or later you're gonna get those damn bots caught in a loop, each answering the other's apparent queries 01:18 marktraceur VanessaE: I already tried, it doesn't appear trivially possible 01:18 marktraceur VanessaE: See http://marktraceur.info/testing.html 01:18 moltenbot marktraceurs link: http://marktraceur.info/testing.html 01:18 bulletrulz !g Youtube 01:18 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.youtube.com/ 01:18 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: YouTube 01:19 bulletrulz !g minefuck 01:19 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XE_mAEbFzA 01:19 VanessaE marktraceur: neither were the pyramids ;-) 01:19 kaeza !g the next statement is true. the previuous statement is false 01:19 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Minecraft Minefuck - YouTube 01:19 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox 01:19 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Liar paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:19 khonkhortisan make a page with a title starting in !, then post the link 01:19 bulletrulz :D 01:19 marktraceur VanessaE: The problem is, I need two of moltenbot 01:19 marktraceur moltenbot: Hello 01:19 khonkhortisan "I always lie"? 01:19 VanessaE heh 01:19 marktraceur No, it was the other one 01:19 marktraceur Minetest-tan: Hello 01:19 marktraceur Huh. 01:19 kaeza !g hello 01:19 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://www.helloonline.com/ 01:20 kaeza ? 01:20 kaeza !g hello lionel richie 01:20 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ILDFp5DGA 01:20 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Hello by Lionel Richie - YouTube 01:20 marktraceur .g http://marktraceur.info/testing.html 01:20 moltenbot marktraceurs link: http://marktraceur.info/testing.html 01:20 bulletrulz !g asking all them qestions 01:20 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwUX4cSwrRk 01:20 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: WHY YOU ASKING ALL THEM QUESTIONS? .. #FCHW - YouTube 01:20 kaeza !g this statement is false 01:20 Minetest-tan kaeza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox 01:20 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Liar paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:21 kaeza !C 01:21 kaeza !c 01:21 Minetest-tan kaeza: Nothing to calculate. 01:21 kaeza !c 1/0 01:21 Minetest-tan Sorry, no result. 01:22 kaeza I've been playing with the CMakeLists 01:22 kaeza made the compilation take half the time 01:22 jin-xi cool 01:22 kaeza but apparently the server grows from 2.6 MB up to ~8.5MB 01:23 RealBadAngel hi 01:23 kaeza because I must link Irrlicht, LibPNG, etc, etc again 01:23 jin-xi RealBadAngel 01:23 kaeza RealBadAngel: hi 01:23 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Howdy! 01:23 jin-xi lol hi 01:23 RealBadAngel :) 01:24 marktraceur Hrm, www.google.com 01:24 marktraceur Nope. 01:24 kaeza http://example.com 01:24 kaeza ? 01:24 RealBadAngel anybody know the rules on which mods are loaded? i mean the order 01:24 marktraceur http: //aoeu.com 01:25 kaeza RealBadAngel: apparently alphabetically 01:25 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Anarchy is the rule. 01:25 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Depend on something if you need it. 01:25 RealBadAngel i need Unified Inventory to be loaded first 01:25 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Why? 01:25 jin-xi been using it, its very cool 01:26 kaeza RealBadAngel: maybe you can make default depend on it 01:26 RealBadAngel have to override minetest_register_craft 01:26 kaeza though I cannot confirm 01:26 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Again, why? 01:26 VanessaE ah, the Angel shows his face :-)\ 01:26 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Let's save some time: What's the end goal? 01:27 RealBadAngel to get craft recipes for all the items ingame 01:27 marktraceur RealBadAngel: minetest.registered_items 01:27 RealBadAngel craft recipes 01:27 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Run through it, use minetest.get_craft_recipe 01:27 kaeza RealBadAngel: in that case just make UI depend on default and wrap that func in your own 01:27 marktraceur No no no 01:27 marktraceur kaeza: Don't encourage bad solutions 01:27 RealBadAngel get craft recipe is broken 01:27 kaeza this^^ 01:27 RealBadAngel returns only the first one found 01:28 VanessaE RealBadAngel: sounds like a chance to add another hook to the game (or engine). 01:28 RealBadAngel if you have more than one recipe theres no way to get it 01:28 jin-xi can't that be fixed more easily? 01:29 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I'd imagine it would be a good idea to use a patched default mod, instead of trying to make UI load first. 01:29 RealBadAngel cornernote made the code to override it and collect craft recipes in a table 01:29 RealBadAngel in his CraftGuide mod 01:29 marktraceur RealBadAngel: in your patch, add minetest.registered_recipes or something similar, then use that. 01:30 khonkhortisan Is the answer to this question no? 01:30 RealBadAngel ive moved his code into mine 01:30 marktraceur khonkhortisan: Maybe. 01:30 khonkhortisan good answer, you are not wrong by answering either yes or no. 01:30 RealBadAngel then my mod called "unified_inventory" collects 836 recipes 01:30 RealBadAngel and his called "craft_guide" collects over 2000 01:31 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I would greatly suggest patching default, submitting the patch, suggesting that your users use that patched version, and supporting the ones who don't with a different method (like a late override or get_craft_recipe) 01:32 RealBadAngel imho best solution shall be fixing minetest.get_craft_recipe 01:32 jin-xi ^^^ 01:32 RealBadAngel but i was lookin for an easy one ;) 01:32 jin-xi hehe 01:32 marktraceur RealBadAngel: We don't do easy solutions here, sorry :) 01:33 RealBadAngel damm :) 01:33 * marktraceur commutes 01:34 RealBadAngel VanessaE, i found the way those trees are made 01:34 VanessaE oh yeah? 01:34 VanessaE think you can turn the algorithm into some non-stupid Lua or C++? :-) 01:34 RealBadAngel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-system 01:34 moltenbot RealBadAngels link: L-system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:35 RealBadAngel terasology using L-systems to generate plants 01:35 VanessaE (I've been working on conifers and jungletrees mods to cut down their CPU usage, they were, with apologies to cisoun and bas080, badly coded) 01:36 RealBadAngel code is quite easy 01:37 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/D42Z2vCj 01:37 moltenbot RealBadAngels link: /* * Copyright 2012 Benjamin Glatzel * * License - Pastebin.com 01:37 RealBadAngel this is tree generation code for Terasology trees 01:37 VanessaE RealBadAngel: Warning: parse error - unable to decipher supplied language due to missing language pack. 01:38 VanessaE translation: java is a mess to me :-) I can't read it 01:38 RealBadAngel heheh 01:38 * VanessaE reads the link on L-systems 01:38 VanessaE maybe the math will make more sense here ;) 01:39 kaeza okay guys. gotta go 01:39 kaeza see you one of these days 01:39 RealBadAngel cya 01:41 VanessaE someone who has Linux and hyperthreading, have them run this: http://pastebin.com/xdUqwb9Y 01:41 moltenbot VanessaEs link: [C] #include #include void main() { printf("nprocs: %d\n", - Pastebin.com 01:52 VanessaE mauvebic 01:53 mauvebic suup 01:54 VanessaE nuthin' much 01:54 mauvebic watchin' the last batman 01:55 mauvebic wow, 3 hours, hope its good lol 01:55 VanessaE haven't seen any of them 01:55 mauvebic i preferred jack nicholson's joker lol 01:55 VanessaE ditto 01:55 VanessaE that's the only one I have seen. 01:56 mauvebic jack nicholson was funny, the other was just weird (and it killed him lol) 01:57 Dogzilla131 is there a notepad mod 01:58 VanessaE Dogzilla131: there's a mailbox mod at least. 01:58 VanessaE might serve the same purpose 02:04 RealBadAngel VanessaE, http://algorithmicbotany.org/papers/#abop 02:04 moltenbot RealBadAngels link: Algorithmic Botany: Publications 02:04 OldCoder Back 02:04 OldCoder RealBadAngel, hi! 02:04 VanessaE wb, OldCoder. 02:04 RealBadAngel wb OldCoder 02:04 OldCoder VanessaE, ty! 02:05 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ditto 02:05 VanessaE RealBadAngel: tl;dr :-) 02:12 bulletrulz !g p o r n 02:12 Minetest-tan bulletrulz: http://www.pornhub.com/ 02:12 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Free Porn Videos & Sex Movies - Porno, XXX, Porn Tube and Pussy Porn 02:12 bulletrulz lol 02:12 bulletrulz xD 02:12 VanessaE ok that's about enough of that. 02:13 kaeza back 02:13 VanessaE wb 02:13 bulletrulz ok 02:13 bulletrulz lol 02:13 VanessaE kaeza: sign onto the server...tell me if you see anything new ;) 02:13 kaeza I'm not at home :( 02:13 kaeza sorry 02:14 VanessaE :( 02:14 kaeza I exceeded my monthly cap 02:14 kaeza so i can't internet 02:14 VanessaE damn 02:14 kaeza :'( 02:14 VanessaE what kind of cap? 02:16 kaeza bandwidth 02:16 VanessaE I mean, how much of a cap is it? 02:16 kaeza 4GB per month 02:16 VanessaE 4GB??? 02:16 VanessaE what are you on, satellite? 02:16 kaeza total crap 02:17 kaeza wireless modem 02:17 kaeza USB gledon 02:17 kaeza dongle 02:17 kaeza crap 02:17 VanessaE good G*d, I couldn't survive with such a strict cap 02:18 VanessaE dec. 5 and you already blew through your cap...jeez 02:18 telek Most Cell plans are like that too. 02:18 telek Was fine on a 56k, sucks on a multi-megabit connection. 02:18 VanessaE well on a cell I can kinda understand (though I think caps are total crap) 02:18 kaeza well,it lasts me for about 5 days 02:19 kaeza lol 02:19 VanessaE kaeza: what's your overage charge? 02:19 telek Caps shouldn't be less than a week at full utilization. 02:19 telek Per month. 02:19 kaeza per month 02:19 VanessaE telek: caps shouldn't exist at all imho. 02:19 VanessaE kaeza: I mean, what do they charge you when you go over? 02:20 kaeza 4GB per month 02:20 kaeza oh 02:20 telek VanessaE: Not arguing that. But since they do exist there should be a minimum quantity for them to claim 'unlimited' :D 02:20 kaeza actually, they just cut it 02:20 VanessaE damn. 02:20 VanessaE that's just crap, you need a better ISP 02:21 kaeza they offer you different plans 02:21 VanessaE no one worth their salt is going to give you any less than 100-200 GB/mo 02:21 kaeza but they give you a single gb for about the same price as the month 02:22 kaeza I think they are part of Verizon IIRC 02:22 VanessaE you should look into switching. you're getting seriously railroaded. 02:23 VanessaE and without even so much as one of pilzadam's busted-ass carts to ride in 02:23 VanessaE :) 02:23 kaeza lol 02:23 kaeza true 02:24 kaeza -i've found a nice 60gb pan for the same price 02:24 kaeza plan* 02:25 VanessaE then switch 02:25 VanessaE fuck this 4GB shit 02:25 kaeza I'm on it 02:25 VanessaE if 4GB lasts you 5 days, 60GB ought to be 2 months' worth :) 02:26 kaeza VanessaE: challengeaccepted.png 02:28 kaeza :) 02:29 VanessaE lol 02:29 VanessaE now to keep you from going over your new cap, see if you can find some kind of network throttling program 02:30 kaeza "give a man 4GB, and he will have internet for 5 days; give a man 200gb, and he will have internet for 6 days" -- anonymous 02:30 VanessaE lol 02:30 VanessaE we have a 200 or 250GB cap here, never exceeded it so far as I know 02:31 kaeza that's a cool idea 02:31 kaeza yo still don't know me it seems 02:31 kaeza ;) 02:33 VanessaE well, if you'd lay off the porn...... 02:34 * VanessaE wanders around her server.. so lonely here :( 02:34 kaeza I wonder if mt works in the olpc... 02:34 VanessaE why not? it runs mint, no? 02:35 VanessaE (well, some variant of debian I guess) 02:35 VanessaE I doubt it has much of a GPU in it though 02:35 kaeza hmmm 02:35 kaeza it has ubuntu 02:35 kaeza butbut yes thegpu is a problem 02:35 kaeza aarrrgh 02:36 kaeza it does not have any acceleration 02:36 VanessaE "CPU: 433 MHz x86 AMD Geode LX-700 at 0.8 watts, with integrated graphics controller" 02:36 VanessaE eek, good luck with that 02:39 kaeza also apparently only 8gb of "disk" 02:39 VanessaE 8GB is enough for a full linux install 02:40 kaeza lemme see 02:40 VanessaE as long as you trim out stuff you don't need of course 02:40 VanessaE (like ditch gnome/kde in favor of xfce or lxde or so) 02:41 kaeza df reports 398M free 02:41 VanessaE my current system takes up 8.5GB, and a lot of that is wasted 02:41 VanessaE not counting my homedir of course. 02:42 kaeza heck I'll have to install cmake, irrlicht, ... 02:42 VanessaE easily done 02:42 VanessaE apt-get install build-essential irrlicht-dev cmake ... 02:42 VanessaE ;-) 02:43 kaeza i'll try 02:43 kaeza damn I need an external mouse 02:44 kaeza this touchpad is annoying 02:44 VanessaE I've tried playing on my laptop. It's....tricky. 02:46 kaeza no can do. need the pass. and i'm all alone 02:46 VanessaE time to boot with an install CD ;) 02:46 kaeza fck this linux auth thing 02:46 kaeza cd? 02:47 VanessaE ok maybe a thumbdrive then 02:47 telek If you can get a GPU of Original Radeon quality, you can run a very distance-limited view of minetest 02:47 kaeza hmmm 02:47 telek Anything below that and it WILL be unplayable. 02:47 telek I've run it on a laptop with an RV100 IGP 02:47 VanessaE telek: 250 with 256px textures = 35 fps or so if I turn shaders off, on my HD6870 02:48 telek It only gets like 10-15fps, so it's just barely borderline playable, but it is. 02:48 kaeza telek: I'm on an olpc :( 02:48 telek kaeza: No chance on that Geode, they were 2d only. 02:48 kaeza fck 02:48 VanessaE telek: too bad he can't network to some powerful PC and just display the results locally :-) 02:49 telek I had trouble running it on a Dual Core Hyperthreaded Atom netbook with no 3d accel and the llvmpipe driver (tried irrlichts software too, it was slower than llvmpipe) 02:49 VanessaE but that's a 20-30 MB/sec stream if you can't send GPU events. 02:49 telek VanessaE: Indeed. Actually I wonder how hard it'd be to offer an 8 bit mode. 02:49 kaeza hmmm 02:49 VanessaE quite easy really 02:50 telek If there was an 8 bit software mode you might be able to lower the processing requirements enough to have it playable on other hardware. 02:50 VanessaE but good luck getting anyone to do it :-) 02:50 kaeza challengedeclined.jpg 02:50 VanessaE you'd have better luck porting it to a C64 in that case 02:50 telek Graphically, assuming lighting and such is turned off, minetest isn't much more complicated than some of the old pentium/pentium 2 era dos games. 02:50 kaeza YAY 02:50 kaeza minetest C64 02:51 telek That's a whole 9 better than minetest C55 :D 02:51 * telek nudges celeron55. 02:52 kaeza seriously, 8 bit mode would be slpw as hell 02:52 kaeza slow* 02:52 kaeza or at least of crappy quality 02:52 VanessaE crappy quality? yes. slow? well it didn't used to be that way. 02:53 kaeza that depends 02:53 VanessaE it wasn't that long ago that running in 8-bit gfx mode made things faster and took less video memory, but then again no one wants 8 bit anymore. 02:54 VanessaE (and no one does OpenGL + 8 bit mode anyway) 02:55 kaeza you yeah 02:55 kaeza sorry 02:55 VanessaE heh 02:56 kaeza fcking keyboard 02:56 kaeza and this is the next step in computing? 02:56 VanessaE heh 02:57 VanessaE well the XO wasn't exactly meant to be high-end :-) 02:58 kaeza the xo is actually the garbage nobody wants. 02:58 VanessaE now now 02:58 VanessaE kids in third-world countries could use stuff like that 02:58 kaeza hmmm 02:58 kaeza sorry 02:59 kaeza yes it's true 02:59 kaeza got carried away 03:00 kaeza ? 03:00 VanessaE ok, so tomorrow when you get a chance, you're gonna call the ISP you found and set up new service, tell the 4GB guys to take a long walk off a short volcano ridge, and get back to playing on your PC :-) 03:01 kaeza I'll do. 03:02 kaeza hmmmm 03:02 VanessaE oh you gotta be shittin' me.. 03:02 VanessaE http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=53477&langId=-1 03:02 kaeza lemme see 03:03 VanessaE note some of the other manuals listed below it also :-) 03:04 kaeza wtf 03:04 kaeza hello Muadtralk 03:05 Muadtralk hello 03:05 VanessaE hey Muadtralk 03:05 kaeza VanessaE: are these things for sale? 03:06 VanessaE kaeza: as far as I can see, yes 03:07 kaeza confirmed: what you can't find on the internet, doesn't exist 03:07 Muadtralk not true 03:07 kaeza that goes in pair somewhat with the rule 34 03:08 VanessaE no, you didn't just.. 03:08 VanessaE not rule 34. 03:08 kaeza lol 03:09 Muadtralk should someone bring up the letter after A next? 03:09 kaeza ? 03:09 VanessaE Muadtralk: that's already assumed. 03:09 Muadtralk I see 03:10 kaeza hmmm 03:11 kaeza if you change the groups of a node does it take effect immediately? 03:11 VanessaE no clue 03:13 kaeza you that may know better than me, any good free IRC server software? I want to keep testing the mod in the meantime 03:14 VanessaE sure, ircd :-) 03:15 VanessaE I'm pretty sure it's in your distro's repository 03:16 kaeza hmmm 03:18 kaeza hello leo_in-game 03:18 VanessaE speaking of testing the irc mod :) 03:18 leo_in-game hi 03:19 kaeza lol 03:19 leo_in-game hybrid irc? 03:19 kaeza at least it works 03:20 leo_rockway I'm getting rid of textures 03:20 leo_rockway and staying with default 03:20 kaeza some paranoid in the forums asked if i can remove the http, ftp, etcthings 03:21 kaeza what do you think? 03:22 kaeza hey leo 03:22 kaeza is it lagging? 03:22 MiJyn kaeza, you made the IRC bot? 03:22 kaeza yup 03:23 MiJyn wow 03:23 kaeza and for gawds sake call it "mod" please 03:23 MiJyn amazing mod 03:23 MiJyn sorry 03:23 MiJyn yeah 03:23 leo_rockway kaeza: my internet is lagging. 03:23 kaeza :P 03:23 leo_rockway kaeza: I don't care much, since I didn't use those files you provided o.o 03:23 leo_rockway I installed sockets and irc from my repo 03:24 kaeza MiJyn: wanna test it? 03:24 MiJyn kaeza, I tested it :D 03:24 MiJyn I had to edit it a bit 03:24 MiJyn used system luasocket 03:24 kaeza hmmm... 03:24 MiJyn since I have 64bit 03:24 kaeza it seems it's working better with system than embedded 03:25 MiJyn yeah 03:25 kaeza maybe I should change the readme to point users to DL luasockets separately 03:26 kaeza any input from users is gladly welcome 03:30 kaeza I've been thinking also to try and connect directly if in single player 03:31 kaeza but I need a reliable way to find when whe are in single player 03:31 VanessaE I can't help being a little curious though - why can't you just directly parse IRC protocol in Lua? 03:31 kaeza ... 03:31 VanessaE what's missing, I mean? 03:31 kaeza the protocol IS parsed in lua 03:31 VanessaE I mean without the extra libraries 03:32 kaeza the only thing in C are the sockets 03:32 MiJyn @kaeza, I think that'd be a good idea 03:32 VanessaE exactly. Why can't that part also be done in Lua? 03:32 kaeza but how do I connect to the server? 03:32 VanessaE no clue. I'm not well versed in networking protocols :-) 03:33 MiJyn @kaeza, what do you mean? 03:35 kaeza1 back 03:35 kaeza1 can someone kick kaeza for me? 03:36 kaeza1 VanessaE: because lua has no built in way to connect to the internet 03:36 VanessaE ah. 03:37 kaeza If only c55 would expose some api from the game 03:37 VanessaE ask him to. 03:37 kaeza I wouldn't need luasockets 03:37 VanessaE he just might 03:37 kaeza celeron55: PING 03:38 VanessaE I mean, we got 3d players after all, and he was dead set against MC-like player models at one time 03:38 VanessaE by now he's probably in bed, for another couple of hours I guess. 03:38 kaeza I guess I'll try tomorrow 03:38 kaeza I'm borrowing my sister's comp 03:39 kaeza hmmm 03:39 VanessaE forget the computer, you still gotta get your internet back :-) 03:41 kaeza okay, in the meantime, I'll take time to update the deco computers :) 03:41 VanessaE heh 03:41 VanessaE right 03:42 VanessaE you still gotta wedge in a C64 and an Apple ][e :-) 03:42 kaeza I'm currently making the Speccy 03:42 VanessaE ok 03:42 kaeza I cannot get pics of others if I don't have inet :( 03:43 VanessaE good point 03:43 kaeza k gtg 03:43 VanessaE except..you have internet right now - download pics, save for offline 03:43 VanessaE viewing 03:43 VanessaE And always remember the golden rule of the Internet: "If I can see it, I can copy it." 03:43 kaeza lol 03:44 kaeza hmmm... reminds me of some copycat voxel game called minesomething (not craft) 03:44 VanessaE heh 03:45 kaeza :P 03:45 VanessaE well that rule normally applies to pictures and sounds, not whole games ;) 03:46 kaeza right 03:46 kaeza ;) 03:46 kaeza hello Neko 03:46 kaeza cool game that Gloop 03:46 VanessaE evening NekoGloop. 03:47 kaeza :3 03:47 NekoGloop Oh look, someone who actually played it instead of downloading it and just leaving it there. 03:47 kaeza I finished it ;) 03:47 kaeza almost 03:48 kaeza what can I say? I just love retro platformers 03:49 NekoGloop Of course you did, it's like not even alpha on the upstream one (which was updated ages ago) 03:50 NekoGloop You might like my other game, "So You Wanted To Play God" 03:50 NekoGloop The 2d minecraft is simply a tech demo. 03:50 kaeza link? 03:51 NekoGloop You can see it on my profile on http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/ 03:53 kaeza k. I'll try it later when I get home. 03:53 kaeza and when I can connect again :'( 03:53 kaeza nvm 03:53 kaeza downloaded it 03:54 NekoGloop You can see my horribad attempts at HD graphics there. 03:54 NekoGloop And decent maze game-y ness 03:54 kaeza yup lol 03:55 kaeza nevertheless, it's pretty good 03:55 NekoGloop VanessaE: See my horribad attempts at HD graphics? 03:55 NekoGloop kaeza: Get into the game a tad farther. 03:55 VanessaE no? 03:55 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://sandbox.yoyogames.com and search "So You Wanted To Play God" 03:56 kaeza VanessaE: http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/194886-so-you-wanted-to-play-god 03:56 moltenbot kaezas link: YoYo Games | So You Wanted to Play God 03:56 VanessaE got it. 03:56 NekoGloop That too. 03:56 NekoGloop VanessaE: See my horribad attempts at HD graphics? 03:57 NekoGloop Ignore the title screen, that's total shit. 03:57 NekoGloop Will (not) be fixed in version 2. 03:57 VanessaE I have not, then, if that white screenshot right of the title is not it 03:58 VanessaE er, grey with white. 03:58 NekoGloop That is it. Also Wine. Use it. 03:58 VanessaE no thanks :-) 03:59 NekoGloop Well then you cant see the awesome horribadness of my graphics D: 03:59 VanessaE lol 03:59 kaeza NekoGloop: this is mine cosmorpg.sf.net 03:59 kaeza NekoGloop: this is mine http://cosmorpg.sf.net 03:59 moltenbot kaezas link: Legend of Cosmo 04:02 kaeza k guys gtg 04:02 kaeza see you later 04:08 VanessaE evening bulletrulz 04:40 Aqua Hello 04:41 VanessaE hi 04:41 Aqua Do you have a server? 04:41 VanessaE yes but it's playing up something badly right now. 04:41 VanessaE oh there it goes. 04:42 Aqua Can I join? 04:42 VanessaE sure. 24.181.193.82 port 3000 04:42 Aqua 0.4.4? 04:42 VanessaE yes 04:42 VanessaE updated to latest git earlier today in fact. 04:42 VanessaE but it's b0rk3d right now 04:42 NekoGloop Oh my god. Aqua actually comes here? 04:42 VanessaE lemme restart it. 04:42 Aqua love steel doors 04:43 VanessaE ok 04:43 Aqua and animated fire 04:43 Aqua is it me or did the nyancat textures change? 04:44 NekoGloop Yes. 04:44 NekoGloop And lol animated fire. 04:44 VanessaE Aqua: it changed, 04:44 Aqua I liuked the old ones 04:44 Aqua one* 04:45 VanessaE the old ones were copyrighted. 04:45 VanessaE so I drew new ones. 04:47 Aqua can i join ur server? 04:47 VanessaE you just did :-) 04:47 Aqua who thought of putting in the steel doors? 04:47 VanessaE it takes a while to load, give it time. 04:47 VanessaE PilzAdam did 04:47 Aqua sweet 04:51 Aqua It does take long..... 04:52 VanessaE yeah, it's slow to load. lots of mods on this server 04:52 Aqua Im sure its worth it what mods? 04:52 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ ls -m .minetest/games/vanessa_game/mods/ 04:52 VanessaE 3dforniture, add_moreores_tool, bobblocks, bucket, campfire, carts, conifers, 04:52 VanessaE default, doors, dye, farming, fire, gloopores, habitat, hatches, homedecor, 04:52 VanessaE jungletree, legacy, locked_sign, maptools, mese_starter_kit, 04:52 VanessaE minetest-mod-jumping, minetest-mod-mesecons, moreblocks, moreores, particles, 04:52 VanessaE pipeworks, plantlife, sethome, signs, stairs, stairsplus, technic, 04:52 VanessaE unifiedbricks, unifieddyes, unified_inventory, vessels, wool, workbench, 04:52 VanessaE worldedit, xdoors2, xpanes 04:53 Aqua ok..... 04:54 Aqua what is legacy? 04:54 VanessaE one of the mods from the standard game, I don't recall what all is in it 04:55 VanessaE mostly aliases by now I would think 04:55 Aqua What does it do 04:55 VanessaE dunno. it's there because minetest_game comes with it :-) 04:55 Aqua i know 04:57 Aqua Do you know what a blueberry is? 04:57 VanessaE sure, I just has some bread made them with a couple hours ago 04:57 VanessaE had* 04:57 Aqua The other thing 04:58 VanessaE er..? 04:58 Aqua something like http://www.blueberry-eu.com/ 04:58 moltenbot Aquas link: BLUEBERRY 04:58 VanessaE I know of the blackberry, that's a phone.. the raspberry, which is some little hacker/tinkerer's gadget, and the ... 04:59 VanessaE this, I am not familiar with. 05:00 Aqua finally in!!!!!!!!1 05:01 VanessaE 12 minutes. par for the course. 05:08 Aqua http://i.imgur.com/LhWSM.png 05:10 Aqua http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-build … 2-win32.7z 05:10 VanessaE that build is too old. 05:10 VanessaE use http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-dev-a47b829-win32.7z 05:10 Aqua then link me another 05:11 VanessaE this one is the latest. 05:11 Aqua do i have to load again? 05:12 VanessaE just reinstall with that ^^ build and try again 05:12 VanessaE the load time won't be too long the second time around. 05:12 VanessaE (usually less than 30 seconds) 05:14 Aqua and what does abm mean again? 05:14 VanessaE active block modifier 05:14 Aqua anything but microsoft? 05:14 Aqua gotta go ill join later 05:15 Aqua 2 hrs probaly..... 05:15 Aqua will u be there 05:15 Aqua ? 05:16 VanessaE no 05:16 VanessaE I'll be asleep 05:16 VanessaE but he se... 05:16 VanessaE ...rver will still be up. 05:29 OldCoder anunakki, Hi! 05:32 anunakki hello 05:33 VanessaE ok, time for bed for me. Night all. 05:33 VanessaE hi anunakki 05:33 anunakki hello and goodnight 05:33 VanessaE :) 05:33 VanessaE night 05:47 MiJyn You know, the player's breathing gesture looks obscene lol 05:49 khonkhortisan out of breath 05:53 MiJyn lol 05:59 khonkhortisan I shouldn't've updated, now I segfault every time going to VE's server 06:06 MiJyn bye all 06:06 emerged Hello! 06:09 emerged Could somebody tell me why cornernote was banned? 06:26 OldCoder emerged, He requested it 06:26 OldCoder Actually he insisted on it 06:26 emerged Why? 06:26 OldCoder emerged, long story and I'm weary tonight 06:26 emerged Ok 06:29 emerged I just need to rely if someone would update his mods to new API if it will change. 06:29 OldCoder emerged, rely? or relay? Are you asking me to speak with him? 06:30 emerged rely 06:31 khonkhortisan depend 06:31 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Hi 06:31 khonkhortisan hello 06:33 neko259 Hello. 06:33 OldCoder neko259, hi 06:34 neko259 emerged: You can update his mods :) 06:34 OldCoder Surely 06:35 neko259 Like we did with the flowers mods that was abandoned long ago. 06:35 emerged Emm, I am not so experienced in lua. 06:35 OldCoder Vanessa took over that one 06:35 OldCoder emerged, You will learn 06:35 OldCoder It is not a difficult language 06:35 neko259 Well, at first that was me and some man from RTMMP. 06:35 OldCoder Oh? 06:35 neko259 :3 06:35 OldCoder Yes that's right 06:35 OldCoder You deserve credit 06:35 OldCoder Excuse me! 06:35 neko259 :D 06:36 neko259 I don't want credit, I just want the mods to live :) 06:36 OldCoder And they have 06:36 OldCoder I feel the same way about the worlds 06:36 OldCoder Which is why I have adopted several of them 06:39 neko259 That's the power of free software community :) 06:59 OldCoder Indeed 07:24 Zeg9 Hi 07:26 OldCoder Hi back 07:45 * OldCoder is sleeping 08:03 Aqua Hello 08:04 emerged Hello 08:05 Aqua Hi 08:05 emerged neko259, our server is down! 08:06 neko259 Sorry, I can't fix it now. I don't have a key from the server at my work. 08:10 neko259 emerged: I've checked. It works fine. 08:12 emerged Strange. 08:14 emerged I think that I need to reboot my PC twice :3 08:17 emerged Just remembered this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N38a5ja26xY 08:18 moltenbot emergeds link: The Website is Down (real voices) - YouTube 08:39 Aqua hello 08:40 Zeg9 I'm off! bye all 08:45 jordach Hey guys 08:46 jordach Oh fuck me. No me command on this iPad 08:48 jordach Anyways, to xchat I go! 09:15 * Jordach sighs 09:35 Jordach brb 10:07 brobostigon good morning everyone, 10:07 Calinou hi 10:07 Jordach hello all 10:09 brobostigon hi Calinou and Jordach 10:11 cmacis Mornin 10:13 brobostigon morning cmacis 10:13 cmacis I've an idea for a mod, but I'm uncertain if a) it is possible, or b) someone has done it before. Modify the game day/night cycle to match the server's local time. 10:13 Jordach cmacis - there is a .conf setting for a real life 24 hours day night cycle 10:13 cmacis Sweet. 10:14 Jordach then just do /time 6000 for 6am 10:14 Jordach or like /time 1014 for 10:14am# 10:14 Jordach and of course /time 2100 for 9pm 10:14 cmacis 6000 for 6am, not 0600 or 600? 10:15 Jordach it has to be military time 10:15 Jordach like 6000 hours 10:15 brobostigon 24 hour clock. 10:16 cmacis I thought 6am was oh-six-hundred in military time, which is 0600 or 600. Of course, it would be interesting to learn I was wrong for a few years... 10:21 * hohoho strolls in and looks around 10:24 Calinou /set -n time_speed 1 10:24 Calinou (requires "server" priv) 10:24 Calinou minetest.conf settings set with /set are not saved, too 10:24 Calinou so you'll have to edit minetest.conf and add time_speed=1 10:25 Calinou default is 72 10:34 cmacis I was mostly thinking of doing this on the local game. Especially so that when it's dark outside I'm reminded that I actually have to go to sleep 10:38 cmacis I was really happy when pokemon gold came out and was impressed with the day/night cycle matching local time 10:41 Calinou it's not that hard to do 10:42 cmacis Mhm. Again, with being a 0.X version sometimes the documentation slides a bity 10:56 redcrab Hey there :) ... does anyone has fun texture for the 3D character .. the one I currently use on the 30402 is the default one and it is too neutral for this server taste 10:57 Calinou change the shirt/pants color :p 10:57 Calinou to red? :P 11:02 * Calinou now has 3 contrib packages installed, vrms reports 11:02 Calinou and 2 non-free 11:16 redcrab Calinou : easy ;p , but I'm looking for an original fun texture ... I'm not an artist .. 11:16 Jordach redcrab - one hot skin coming right up 11:16 redcrab "hot" .. I accept only PG content 11:17 Jordach as in like hot dogs 11:19 Jordach http://ompldr.org/vZ2w2Zw/base%20colors%20miner.png 11:23 redcrab Jordach ... nice will try it asap on 30402 11:23 Jordach wait, wait thats my old world with my name on it 11:25 hohoho speaking of skins.. anyone have issue with player_textures mod (the one for 3D) with latest (as of a few days ago) unstable? 11:25 hohoho I had no luck getting it to work but on sdzens server it works. was wondering if anyone happen to have an idea why 11:25 Jordach VanessaE's testing server works 11:25 Jordach for that 11:27 Jordach redcrab, can you explain my full admin rights on 30402? 11:28 hohoho afk a few.. time for some food 11:29 redcrab Jordach : to be exact ... in config.conf there is "name=Jordach" .. that should answer your question :D 11:29 Jordach redcrab - is this world a chaos world like 0.3.1? 11:30 redcrab more less ... free as 0.3.1 but there is /protect command .. I ve updated first post of the thread to explain a little bit more 11:30 redcrab interact is given by default 11:31 Jordach hm, would it be possible to install technic>]# 11:31 redcrab 8O 11:31 Jordach it needs moreores, mesecons and modified stairs plues 11:31 Jordach plus 11:31 Jordach (removing mesecons from depends works too!) 11:32 redcrab :p ... Is it a CPU eater mod .. like mesecon ...? 11:32 Jordach OldCoder's nexus is made from amazon instances 11:32 Jordach which most of them have mesecons and technic 11:33 Jordach minetest.org 11:33 redcrab Yes , but I currently Have 4 minetest instance on my AWS instance :) 11:34 Jordach OldCoder has at least 15 11:34 Jordach worlds 11:34 Jordach or instances 11:34 redcrab 15 opened port simultaneously ... cool 11:34 Jordach the amazon servers can take mesecon heat 11:35 Jordach technic runs fine on my single player 11:36 Jordach btw, it needs a special stairs plus 11:37 Jordach which i have zipped a working modpack 11:37 redcrab does it collide with recipe for classic stairs ? or existing stairs+ ? what appends to the existing world ... Does scrambling it up ? 11:38 Jordach nope, its harmless 11:38 Jordach (some blocks might, dont know because i dont update mods) 11:42 Garp Hi :) 11:42 Garp Thanks for the work. 11:43 Garp I couldnt get it to work 11:43 Garp Question: I'm trying to play remotely, connecting through ssh-tunnel to the machine that host the server. 11:44 Garp Did someone ever done that? I redirected 30000 tcp, then used socat for UDP 11:44 Garp But I must have done something wrong. It attepmt to connect, do somethingbu Media stays at 0% and timeout 11:44 Garp any help? Thanks. 11:48 redcrab Jordach : the rpvided character skin is nice thanks 11:48 hohoho back 11:49 hohoho Garp if you get that working let me know. I'm interested in doing such myself (not in any big hurry but local tests myself failed) 11:57 Jordach im back, redcrab thank you, this took me a few seconds to draw 11:57 Jordach also, http://ompldr.org/vZ2w2cA/technicstuff.zip 12:03 Garp hohoho: Basically, I tried teh following: 12:03 Garp Client: ssh -N -f user@server -L30000:localhost:30000 (for TPC) 12:04 hohoho I used putty to make the tunnel 12:04 Garp Client: ssh -N -f user@server -L30001:localhost:30001 ; socat -T15 udp4-recvfrom:30000,reuseaddr,fork tcp:localhost:30001 # opening another tcp tunnel, and pushing UDP from 30000 in it 12:05 hohoho been about a month since I tried it but it never would connect 12:05 Garp Server: socat tcp4-listen:30001,reuseaddr,fork UDP:localhost:30000 # pushing the UDP stream to 30000 on sever. 12:05 Garp but didnt worked :( 12:05 Garp dunno why 12:08 hohoho I assume it might be minetest side since when you play singleplayer it seems to run a local server 12:09 hohoho something I would be interested in knowing as well is roughly how much bandwidth is used per active player on a server 12:09 hohoho with emphasis on roughly 12:10 Garp hohoho: I started a minetest-server 12:11 hohoho yea technically im the admin over the dtamedia server but my buddy is providing the resources lol 12:11 hohoho im not setup to run my own personal server at this time 12:11 hohoho apparently he loves minetest 12:12 * hohoho got him to try it out about a couple weeks ago (first time since a little after mods first came out 12:12 hohoho ) 12:12 Jordach so you've been here a while then 12:13 * hohoho is RAPHAEL 12:13 Jordach oh hey 12:13 hohoho been roughly absent since early 2012 12:13 hohoho lol 12:13 Jordach ah, personal leave? 12:14 hohoho well had to move from where I lived and after move just got sidetracked 12:14 Jordach mhm 12:14 Jordach btw, you want 0.4-stable git clone 12:14 hohoho I am glad however to see minetest still alive and kicking 12:14 Jordach because i have suffin to show you 12:14 hohoho ? 12:15 Jordach actually wait, latest git 12:15 Jordach 217.43.103.216 : 30000 12:15 Jordach !up 217.43.103.216 30000 12:15 moltenbot Minetest server 217.43.103.216:30000 UP 12:16 hohoho lol upness 12:16 hohoho one question, is it just me or can users on mint/ubuntu can't paste from some os app (like say messenger) to minetest? 12:16 hohoho haven't been able to despite many ubuntu versions since 0.3 12:16 Jordach i can paste fine in win32 12:17 hohoho windows works fine yes 12:17 hohoho but im speaking of tux specifically 12:17 Jordach now play on that ip with latest git 12:17 Jordach :) 12:18 cmacis Don't forget the Gnu's role in the OS! 12:50 hohoho cement.. s'good 12:55 Jordach hello Taoki 13:03 Octupus hi 13:05 hohoho hmm does technic still work? 13:11 Jordach hohoho - you will have to use the apt-get minetest version 13:11 hohoho any reason for such Jordach? 13:12 Jordach formspec is fucked in latest 13:12 Garp Is that normal than we can stay underwater for quite a long time without any damage, and that torchs work well there too ? 13:12 hohoho any version number for reference? 13:12 Jordach also needed stuff here http://ompldr.org/vZ2w2cA/technicstuff.zip 13:12 Jordach includes technic 13:12 Jordach (with a nuclear reactor, but thats a hidden recipe) 13:12 Jordach yes, i coded that 13:12 hohoho I compiled myself and would prefer to compile myself if I can 13:12 Octupus hi Jordach 13:13 * hohoho prefers run in place 13:13 BambooVase Garp: yes 13:13 Jordach hohoho https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/stable-0.4 13:13 Jordach hello Octupus 13:13 hohoho @Garp yes "normal" for minetest 13:13 hohoho lol 13:14 Jordach ho ho ho, i have a gun 13:14 Jordach (die hard reference) 13:14 Octupus Jordach u made the nuclear reactor 13:14 Jordach yes 13:14 hohoho @Jordach.. would "downgrading" from latest unstable to that cause any world issues that you may be aware of? 13:14 Octupus whats it do 13:14 Jordach hohoho, i think something changed 13:14 Jordach Octupus generates a hug amount of power 13:14 Octupus cool 13:14 hohoho hug power! 13:15 * hohoho had to say it 13:15 Jordach hugfe 13:15 Jordach huge 13:15 Garp hohoho: is that a definivie behavior or is this expected to evolve ? 13:15 hohoho no idea garp 13:16 Octupus cooool 13:16 BambooVase Garp: yes 13:16 BambooVase oops sorry 13:16 Garp BambooVase ? 13:16 Garp OK, I see :) 13:16 Jordach RealBadAngel - you here 13:16 BambooVase Garp: I thought my focus was on the terminal so I pressed up+enter 13:18 Garp BTW how much would it cost to add a bit of static mecanical analysis to prevent blocks to float in the air and cantilever to support any unlimited load ? 13:24 * hohoho listens to the silence 13:25 Jordach heh 13:25 * Jordach is working on three tiered mining drills 13:25 * hohoho is compiling for a local test 13:25 hohoho lol 13:25 hohoho battling bouts of vertigo as well 13:25 hohoho lol 13:26 * Octupus is plaing minetest :3 13:27 hohoho my do worlds get large quick 13:27 * hohoho just noticed world size of server 13:28 * Octupus is also waitin g for wizard101 to finish updating 13:31 hohoho anunakki.. Ernie Brown? 13:31 hohoho lol 13:32 anunakki no 13:32 hohoho well either way hello and hello to MilanFIN 13:33 Garp Am I right to understand that minetest worlds are made of 1m large nodes and that there are about 65000 nodes in each directions? 13:33 Jordach yes 13:34 hohoho what happens if you go beyond? 13:34 Octupus u cant go beyond 13:34 Octupus u will get stopped by a forcefield i believe 13:34 Garp So basiaclly, it's a 65km^3 world, with is rather "small", so why the term 'almost infinite' (in muinecraft, I dunno, they say even "infinite") 13:35 Garp Would be nice to have wrapped it, at least in the horizontal dimentsions, would it be difficilult ? 13:36 celeron55 it's infinite for all practical gameplay purposes 13:36 celeron55 and building purposes 13:36 hohoho hey celeron55 13:36 hohoho don't think we have ever chatted lol 13:36 * hohoho RAPHAEL but either someone else registered that nick or I forgot its password 13:36 hohoho lol 13:36 Garp celeron55: yes, I tried to walk for some time, got bored far before even 1km ;)à 13:37 Garp (is it wrapped or do we reach a "border" ?) 13:38 celeron55 a fully generated 60000^3 world would take roughly 100TB of space 13:38 hohoho o_O 13:38 celeron55 there is a border 13:38 Garp celeron55: which is a lot, I agree. 13:38 celeron55 given that most singleplayer worlds are in the range of a couple of MB, i think it's kinda enough 13:39 Garp CAPACITY 784.10T FREE 231.48T ( 29.5%) <- Still have 230TB, but some wouldnt be happy that I use half of it for minetets ;) 13:39 hohoho I've seen as high as 100-200MB maps but that's about it 13:39 Octupus Any1 that neeeds me PM or highlight me 13:39 celeron55 existing large servers have multiple GBs 13:40 celeron55 (like OldCoder's) 13:40 Jordach yeah, they are expansive 13:41 Jordach shit 13:41 Jordach wheres pilzadam when you need him 13:43 Jordach celeron55 - is there any example of shapeless crafting? 13:43 Jordach lua_api_doc.txt is useless 13:44 NekoGloop Well i could have told you that. 13:45 Jordach NekoGloop - show me a example then 13:45 NekoGloop See moreblocks. 13:47 Jordach i mean like in mc when making cakes 13:47 Jordach milk buckets -> normal bucketa 13:48 Jordach -a +s 13:48 hohoho brb in a few 13:51 Jordach ha! VanessaE - unified dyes is useful for once! 13:53 celeron55 minetest_game's dyes have shapeless crafting too 13:53 Jordach celeron55 - i meant replacements 13:54 NekoGloop Jordach: Replacements, you fool. 13:54 Jordach i hate saying something whih my fingers then follow 13:54 Jordach which 13:55 hohoho back 13:56 hohoho and with 0.4.3 stable seems technic still doesn't work right (or maybe im just doing it wrong) lol 13:56 Jordach huh 13:56 NekoGloop You need latest-er-y 13:56 Jordach works fine on win32 13:56 NekoGloop It uses something added later in development. 13:56 Jordach even in the oldcoder build 13:56 Jordach it works fine 13:56 hohoho I've tried technic with unstable and that one I think it was jordach gave link to 13:57 hohoho everything crafts fine but can't seem to get power from generator to say electric furnace 13:57 hohoho tried all cables and even mesecon 13:57 hohoho lol 13:57 Jordach low voltage only works on low voltage 13:57 Jordach currently all machines are low voltage 13:58 hohoho tried lv_cable 13:58 Jordach bar mv solar panels and battery boxes 13:58 NekoGloop And you need a batbox inbetween 13:58 Jordach hohoho, they need to be placed under the machine node 13:58 hohoho under? ill try that 13:58 * hohoho waiting for minetest to load again (I miss the option to not load all the textures ahead of time) 13:59 NekoGloop hohoho: And you need a battery box inbetween, for reasons that are nonsensical 13:59 Jordach hohoho, there is a setting to turn that off 14:00 hohoho unless its in minetest.conf its not in the gui of this version 14:00 hohoho lol 14:00 Jordach hohoho, it is in sfan5|OFF's builds 14:00 * hohoho on linux 14:00 Jordach (sorry for the hl sfan) 14:00 hohoho if I recall right sfan5s is windows 14:00 NekoGloop Well then fuck you 14:00 NekoGloop Go away, shitnix user. 14:01 * Jordach and NekoGloop dont have this problem 14:01 Jordach high five! 14:01 * NekoGloop highfives Jordach 14:01 * NekoGloop scrapes him with his claws 14:01 Octupus i use windows also 14:01 Octupus :D 14:01 * Jordach regenerates 14:01 NekoGloop XD 14:01 Jordach ipad, y u no unlock? 14:01 NekoGloop Lil' kitty claws wouldnt hurt too much :3 14:02 NekoGloop Jordach: Because it scans your fingerprint and keeps you from using it more than 200 times. 14:02 Jordach considering a amorphous liquid cant actually do much, bar set and go hard, like glass 14:02 hohoho there we go.. I wasn't doing it right 14:02 hohoho placed under works 14:03 Jordach hohoho. im the second technic dev 14:03 hohoho guess used to placing mesecons just about anywhere 14:03 hohoho lol 14:03 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/technic 14:04 markveidemanis HI 14:04 Jordach hello, watch the cap lock 14:04 hohoho hey markveidemanis 14:04 NekoGloop hohoho: rba is taking inspiration from universal electricity, is part of the problem. 14:04 Jordach NekoGloop does make more sense this way# 14:05 Jordach not to mention nice looking floors 14:05 NekoGloop Wat? 14:05 NekoGloop What do you mean? 14:05 Jordach because would you have high voltage cables powered all over the floor IRL? 14:05 Jordach (like a charging cable) 14:05 NekoGloop No, i'd have the wires in the wall. 14:05 NekoGloop Not the damn floor. 14:05 Jordach exactly 14:06 Jordach some houses IRL are wired like that 14:06 hohoho lol indeed nekogloop 14:06 hohoho I've seen a business with live wires all over the roof, unprotected 14:06 NekoGloop I say we take some damn inspiration from IC2. 14:06 NekoGloop Cables WHEREEVER THE HELL WE WANT THEM. 14:07 NekoGloop Btw: i now have 60 MC mods. 14:07 NekoGloop It's not so much incompatibility at this point, but rather finding ones i like. 14:07 hohoho nekogloop made 60 or running 60? 14:07 NekoGloop Running 60 14:07 markveidemanis someone make a post on my server topic? 14:07 * hohoho has you beat 14:08 * hohoho running 83 14:08 NekoGloop I cant code in lua, you expect me to know java? 14:08 hohoho not mc 14:08 hohoho mc sucks 14:08 hohoho too laggy 14:08 NekoGloop hohoho: Nope. 14:08 NekoGloop This thing. It's called optifine. 14:08 hohoho plus I like the whole user modding thing 14:08 hohoho don't like what available? make it available 14:08 NekoGloop >Mojang making a mod API 14:08 NekoGloop Wat. 14:09 Jordach yes 14:09 markveidemanis i love optifine!! 14:09 hohoho besides recently I've played mt and mc and compared the two 14:09 * Jordach has 170fps in MC 14:09 hohoho imo both have their strengths and weaknesses but mt wins 14:09 hohoho of course that's my opinion 14:09 markveidemanis but minetest CAN disable fog and fullrender, so optifine is rendered useless 14:09 * Jordach has 70fps with Sonic Ethers shader mid 14:09 * NekoGloop has 20fps in MC but has a shitton of mods in it 14:09 Jordach mod* 14:10 * NekoGloop has 30fps in MT with a shitton of mods. 14:10 * Jordach has 22-40fps in mt 14:10 hohoho 83 mt mods.. 50-65fps 14:10 hohoho I limit to 24 since don't need so many fps 14:10 hohoho lol 14:10 NekoGloop Would prolly help if i didnt have an intel card. 14:10 * hohoho old nvidia here 14:10 * hohoho surprised it still works 14:11 NekoGloop Well here's why you lag so much in mc: you use linux! 14:11 hohoho on another computer I have with similar specs but with integrated intel I get about 10fps with mt 14:11 Jordach yay! finished the lv, mv and hv drills 14:11 hohoho nekogloop mc lag in windows as well 14:11 NekoGloop hohoho: Well yeah, you just said it has an intel card. 14:11 hohoho I have unofficially dubbed minecraft meincrap and minetest meintesticle 14:12 Jordach ehm shit 14:12 Jordach i just realized something 14:12 hohoho for I like mein testicle more than mein crap 14:12 hohoho there should be an s in there. o well 14:12 Jordach the old drills wont get converted to the new drills 14:13 NekoGloop Because rba's code. 14:13 RealBadAngel hi all 14:13 NekoGloop His code reminds me of minecraft source: something really simple done really stupidly. 14:13 Doc22 hey 14:13 hohoho hey RealBadAngel 14:14 Jordach RealBadAngel - got the lv mv and hv drills working 14:14 Doc22 just woke up lol 14:14 Jordach and they return the crystal and drill 14:14 Octupus hi RealBadAngel,and Doc22 14:14 Doc22 hey octupus 14:14 Doc22 hey realbadangel 14:16 BambooVase is it normal to get stuck at [] item definition? or should I rejoin? 14:16 Jordach no it is now 14:16 Jordach not 14:16 Jordach sometimes mine gets stuck, best just letting it do 14:19 Octupus love hate 14:19 Octupus niggas hate 14:19 Octupus bitches hate 14:19 Octupus but me ,i cant 14:24 jordach-iPad Pc getting close to crashing 14:24 hohoho ... 14:24 RealBadAngel BambooVase, if youre joinin the server for the very first time you need to get all the media 14:24 hohoho windows I presume jordach 14:24 RealBadAngel if server is loaded with bunch of mods, with lotsa content 14:24 jordach-iPad Boot camp actually 14:24 * hohoho has successfully crashed windows on many occasions. never been able to crash linux 14:24 RealBadAngel it may take a while 14:25 NekoGloop I never crashed windows. 14:25 hohoho @nekogloop then you haven't used windows fully 14:25 NekoGloop My computer took a dump, but windows itself wasnt the cause. 14:25 NekoGloop Faulty hardware ftw 14:26 hohoho my habit is trying to do more with a computer than its designed to handle normally 14:26 NekoGloop Like mc on an intel card? 14:26 hohoho results usually lag/crash/hardware failure 14:26 hohoho lol yes I've tried that nekogloop 14:26 NekoGloop I've succeeded. 14:27 hohoho I managed to get mc loaded and working 14:27 hohoho but it was too slow to use 14:27 NekoGloop Optifine. 14:27 NekoGloop That is fucking all. 14:27 Doc22 arrgh 14:27 jin-xi huh 14:27 Doc22 gotta bring out old pc, put ram in it 14:27 Doc22 change hd 14:27 hohoho I doubt optifine will do much for a 2.6GHz machine with 1GB of ram running integrated intel graphics with shared memory 14:27 jin-xi RealBadAngel: did you see c55's question in -dev? 14:27 hohoho lol 14:27 Doc22 so ill be off 14:28 hohoho ttyl doc22 14:28 Doc22 optifine does a lot for me on a 2ghz pc running 1gb ram 14:28 Doc22 X) 14:28 RealBadAngel jin-xi, no, can you copy it for me? 14:28 Doc22 cya hohoho 14:28 Doc22 cya octupus 14:28 Doc22 bb; 14:28 Doc22 bbl 14:28 jin-xi RealBadAngel: is there anything that exists, is not upstream and should still go in 0.4.4, in someone's opinion? 14:28 jordach-iPad Okay, windows has found air to breathe 14:28 hohoho but hey the low spec computer was a freebe. nothing wrong with it besides old 14:30 NekoGloop hohoho: Sounds better than my piece of crap. 14:31 thexyz whoa 14:31 Jordach mm? 14:31 Octupus dut dut dut dut dut do dora the explorer :D 14:31 * Jordach shakes heae 14:31 Jordach head* 14:31 Octupus XD 14:31 hohoho technically the computer im on now was $5 usd (yes im a cheap bastard) 14:31 Octupus u are a dora bowl 14:31 thexyz OldCoder: why have you quieted Minetest-tan? 14:31 hohoho but its 6GHz processing power 1GB ram and nvidia agp 256MB 14:32 hohoho not bad for $5 14:32 Jordach but its 6GHz processing power 1GB ram and nvidia agp 256MB - find me a 6hz cpu 14:32 Jordach wo/ over clocks 14:32 hohoho it had a virus on its windows so I nuked the drive and loaded tux. problem solved 14:32 hohoho no overclocks that im aware of 14:33 hohoho I've done no changes to hardware. just nuked the drive and loaded tux 14:33 * hohoho is still amazed people throw away perfectly good computers because of software issues 14:34 hohoho my current whole computing setup (3 working computers including this one) complete with monitor keyboard and optical mouse cost me $20 14:34 hohoho my wifi card cost more at $40 14:34 hohoho lol 14:35 hohoho im a cheap bastard and I like it that way 14:35 thexyz OldCoder: well, i guess you can explain later 14:35 Jordach hohoho, my pc can easily run BF3 14:35 Octupus Jordach,u like pc games dont cha :3 14:35 * hohoho jokingly requests jordachs throwaway when they upgrade to something better in 3-5 years 14:35 hohoho lol 14:36 Jordach hohoho - this thing is handbuilt 14:36 * hohoho has never spent more than $20 dollars on a complete computer setup 14:36 Octupus XD 14:36 Octupus your a cheap bastard XD 14:36 hohoho lol 14:36 * Jordach spends at least several grand into each hand built machine 14:36 hohoho hey more free money for vices 14:36 hohoho work less, more free time 14:37 hohoho lol 14:37 hohoho being cheap has its perks 14:37 Jordach this is my 2006 machine 14:37 Octupus cooool 14:37 Jordach (because im too lazy to fuck my super powered machine) 14:37 * hohoho works about 25-30 hours a week at his job.. lives well 14:37 Octupus XD 14:37 Jordach as in, break it 14:38 hohoho I like "customizing" computers. of course my customizations tend to be in like with frankenstein 14:38 Jordach and yes. its a intel core i7 14:38 * hohoho once put together a computer using 3 different parts computers held in a case that was overly too big using duct tape, metal tape and industrial velcro 14:38 Octupus is it easy to start a server on 4.4 14:38 hohoho worked well for 2 years 14:38 hohoho lol 14:38 Octupus because i just clicked on minetestserver 14:39 Jordach Octupus 0.4.4 14:39 Jordach not 4.4 14:39 Octupus yes that 14:39 Octupus i keep on forgetting the 0 14:41 Octupus i cant till 1 comes out 14:41 Octupus we'll be waiting for years :D 14:41 hohoho im guessing decades 14:42 hohoho unless there's a lot of interest in minetest from a large group of competent coders 14:42 NekoGloop By then people wont use computers anymore. 14:43 Jordach here be my reactors https://github.com/Jordach/technic 14:44 Octupus hi babyface1031 14:44 babyface1031 hi Octupus 14:45 Jordach RealBadAngel - see my changes 14:46 hohoho reactors? 14:47 Jordach prototypes 14:47 Jordach they burn uranium like furnaces 14:47 Jordach however they wont work with your machines 14:47 hohoho where do they get uranium? 14:47 Jordach from the mines 14:47 Jordach and caves 14:48 Jordach they are found at -100 -> -350 ish 14:50 hohoho curious, what's the deepest most here have gone while mining without using fly 14:51 hohoho I've mined down to about -800 and wondering if there really is any use in going deeper 14:51 hohoho lol 14:51 Jordach technic has diamonds around -500 14:53 hohoho are they generated at world creation or after? 14:54 Jordach they are generated like coal and such 14:54 hohoho which is? last I was on minetest everything was generated at world creation (or so it seemed) 14:56 Octupus Vanessa,when u get the time can u remove fire mod pwease because i live besides lava and i didnt reliaze fire was on till just now(house made out of wood) 15:03 babyface1031 can anyone tell me what i did wrong on this code http://pastebin.com/fxV9pGkT 15:03 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_trunk", { description = "Tree", tiles - Pastebin.com 15:05 Octupus NekoGloop,Jordach^^ 15:10 hohoho well im gone, was nice chatting 15:11 hohoho ttyl 15:19 Jordach eh? 15:20 Jordach was playing red eclipse 15:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:20 Jordach hello PilzAdam 15:21 * Jordach added three tiers of mining drills to technic 15:21 Octupus Hi PlizAdam 15:28 babyface1031 can anyone help me with a code i cant figure out what i did wrong http://pastebin.com/fxV9pGkT 15:28 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_trunk", { description = "Tree", tiles - Pastebin.com 15:29 Octupus PilzAdam,Jordach can u help with face and her code 15:29 Octupus because i tried to but i dont understand generation 15:31 PilzAdam what is the problem with the code? 15:33 babyface1031 i keep getting an error let me get it in pastenbin to show you 15:34 babyface1031 PilzAdam: http://pastebin.com/fJrC9HKi 15:34 moltenbot babyface1031s link: 10:33:30: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA =========== 10:33:30: ERROR[ma - Pastebin.com 15:34 PilzAdam add default to depends.txt 15:35 babyface1031 ok 15:36 babyface1031 ty PilzAdam :D 15:37 thexyz !g minetest 15:37 Minetest-tan thexyz: http://minetest.net/ 15:37 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: About - Minetest 15:37 Minetest-tan GIT: celeron55 commited to celeron55/minetest: Set proper field background colors in Irrlicht 1.8 543fc6702f 2012-12-06T09:35:40-08:00 15:37 brobostigon what are the item codes, you can put into /giveme ? to give yourself stuff. 15:40 Jordach brobostigon - /giveme default:pick_mese 15:40 Jordach for a mese pick 15:40 Jordach !wik item_codes 15:40 Minetest-tan "These are the default arguments used for the /give and /giveme commands." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Item_codes 15:40 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Item codes - Minetest Wiki 15:40 brobostigon Jordach: thank you. 15:44 Calinou bulletrulz: ^ 15:44 bulletrulz yay! 15:44 bulletrulz ty Calinou y was i muted? 15:44 Calinou you were quieted ;) 15:44 Calinou quiet is mute, basically 15:44 bulletrulz yeah y though 15:45 bulletrulz well thank u anyway 15:45 thexyz i disagree 15:46 bulletrulz thexyz, what do u mean 15:46 thexyz i think he should be quieted back 15:46 bulletrulz lol 15:46 bulletrulz xD 15:53 thexyz http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2691031 15:53 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06 15:54 Calinou sanctions are not a good way to punish people 15:54 thexyz i agree 15:54 thexyz they are PERFECT way to do it 15:55 * Jordach does not know whether to shave jordach's beard or not 15:55 thexyz let's just hope it won't repeat in future 15:55 thexyz and still, why was Minetest-tan quieted? 15:55 Jordach i think because of bot abuse 15:55 Jordach cant we have username filters? 15:55 thexyz um.. 15:56 thexyz so bot was quieted because of bot abuse 15:56 Jordach stop the damn kids from using em 15:56 thexyz nice 15:56 thexyz i've already +q'd him 16:03 Jordach also http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=52103&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=32503 16:03 Jordach ubuntu for n00bs 16:04 * Calinou downloads xonotic-latest-low autobuild, 606MB 16:04 Calinou git checkout uses 8GB disk space, and it's long as hell 16:04 Calinou I gave up :P 16:04 Calinou (and they use a specific script which doesn't allow the use of --depth) 16:05 Calinou Jordach: BUY something on the internet? are you crazy? 16:05 thexyz Jordach: http://google.com/ ← useful for noobs 16:05 moltenbot thexyzs link: Google 16:05 Jordach Jordach: BUY something on the internet? are you crazy? - heh, you TRY FINDING things that are no longer in shops without ebay 16:06 Calinou startpage.com is better :p 16:06 Calinou google without the downsides 16:06 Calinou or ixquick/duckduckgo/whatever 16:07 PilzAdam ixquick FTW 16:07 Calinou startpage is pretty much the same thing but it doesn't use yahoo/bing results 16:09 Calinou download complete! :D 16:09 * Jordach iplocks all websites so PilzAdam is forced to use google 16:10 * PilzAdam uses NoScript to block the google bot 16:19 Garp Are there any hooks to pilote the minetest client? So that I can relax will my avatar is mining ? 16:20 PilzAdam start minetest with --random-input 16:20 marktraceur Garp: There has been talk of it, but nothing solid yet. 16:25 Garp Thanks for teh answers, I like it 16:26 Calinou put stones on your W key and left mouse button 16:26 Calinou :> 16:26 Calinou or find a OS/game bug to make them "stick" 16:26 Calinou (on windows alt should do this) 16:26 marktraceur There must be a good way to do this in software. 16:27 Calinou too easy :P 16:27 markveidemanis hi 16:27 markveidemanis my server is up 16:27 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163 16:27 markveidemanis any mod requests?? 16:28 markveidemanis hi zeg9 16:28 markveidemanis wanna join my serveer?? 16:28 Zeg9 Hello! 16:28 Zeg9 Maybe... What's the ip again? 16:28 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163:30000 16:28 markveidemanis its changed 16:28 Zeg9 ok, wait, I'll try something before 16:28 markveidemanis k 16:28 PilzAdam !up 86.134.50.163 16:29 moltenbot Minetest server 86.134.50.163:30000 UP 16:29 marktraceur Well, off to the coal mines, talk to y'all soon 16:30 Zeg9 o_O I now have 2 mice (and 2 cursors) 16:30 Zeg9 This is going to be really... useful... 16:31 markveidemanis how?? 16:31 Octupus hi Zeg9 16:31 Zeg9 markv: are you on linux? 16:31 markveidemanis yep 16:31 Zeg9 Hey Octupus 16:31 * Calinou posted a comment to GNOME 3 blog 16:31 markveidemanis who koined my server as Iqualfragile?? 16:31 Calinou let me bet 99 mese it'll be censored 16:31 markveidemanis #joined 16:31 Calinou they only put comments when they're good for them 16:31 Zeg9 markv: make sure you have 2 mice connected (on a different usb (or the old port, PS2?) port) 16:32 Zeg9 Then install xinput 16:32 markveidemanis xinput? 16:32 markveidemanis on linux.... 16:32 markveidemanis sudo apt-get xinput?? 16:32 Zeg9 What distro are you using? 16:32 Zeg9 yeah, that I think 16:32 Zeg9 or apt-cache search xinput if it isn't that 16:32 Jordach Calinou link me the comment! 16:32 markveidemanis lubuntu - debian 16:33 Zeg9 ouch, my second mouse is really faster than the other one... 16:33 markveidemanis useful, but only 1 mouse 16:33 Calinou it's awaiting moderation, but content of comment is: "GNOME 3 forces you to use compositing, which is bad. (new line) inb4 censorship" :D 16:33 Calinou it's a reply to another comment 16:33 Jordach Zeg9 then unplug the other 16:33 Calinou (at a gnome 3 fanboy) 16:33 Zeg9 Jordach: lol 16:33 Jordach thats always funny 16:33 markveidemanis so anyone to go on my server? 16:34 Zeg9 what programs could be compatible with 2 mice... 16:34 Zeg9 I'm coming 16:34 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163:30000 16:34 Jordach 2 minetests??? 16:34 Calinou if you're on linux, you can have several mouse pointers 16:34 markveidemanis ummm, 2 minetest windows? 16:34 Calinou MPX :P 16:34 Jordach RoR 16:34 dlowe markveidemanis: You've been such a pest about it, I'd suspect a malware exploit on your server now 16:34 Calinou ror? 16:34 Jordach rigs of rod 16:34 markveidemanis can i have 2 keyboards? 16:34 Jordach rods 16:37 Jordach wow OldCoder's been sleeping all day 16:37 Zeg9 2 keyboard ? yes, just plug the other one 16:37 markveidemanis done 16:37 Zeg9 FYI, it's not possible to use 2 minetest windows, even with a second mouse >.< 16:37 Zeg9 I'm going to unplug it now xD 16:37 Calinou of course it is not 16:38 Zeg9 There is multi pointer functionnality in x but it isn't used anywhere. 16:39 rubenwardy hi all 16:39 markveidemanis any mod requests for my server? 16:39 markveidemanis hi 16:41 Jordach ffs 16:41 Jordach its almost 2 centigrade in this room 16:42 * Jordach turns heater on 16:43 markveidemanis Zeg9....... 16:44 Zeg9 markveidemanis....... ? 16:44 markveidemanis server?... 16:44 markveidemanis hehe 16:50 Penguin hi 16:51 OldCoder Hi back Penguin 16:51 Penguin I Need Some Help 16:51 Penguin ----------------------------------------- 16:52 OldCoder What's up? 16:54 OldCoder celeron55, Good morning 16:55 thexyz OldCoder: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2692341 16:55 OldCoder R 16:55 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06 16:58 OldCoder thexyz, issue is tedious bot wars. People go !this or !that endlessly. Others shout at them over and over. Consensus was clear and temporary. Other ops can just turn bots back on after tempers cool. 16:59 thexyz you should quiet the person who started bot war 16:59 PilzAdam thexyz, +1 16:59 OldCoder PilzAdam, thexyz, This is a point that has been made. But what if "fault" is not clear? Is it the person who goes !bacon or the one who shouts !bacon is bad? 17:00 OldCoder Bots are bad 17:00 thexyz OldCoder: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2691031 17:00 OldCoder R ty 17:00 thexyz of course it was bot's fail 17:00 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06 17:01 OldCoder Not really following point of latest link but thank you 17:01 OldCoder Bots are disruptive. Fights are negative. Pleasant atmosphere is better. 17:01 thexyz i'm talking about this particular case 17:01 OldCoder Thank you. I am literal and I do not understand. 17:02 OldCoder There is another point... 17:03 OldCoder If a bot is muted temporarily its feelings are not injured. We lost Cornernote to a kick. RBA was angry enough nearly to leave for less. If somebody is clearly over the top they should be muted. Otherwise... the bot gets it! 17:04 OldCoder PilzAdam, thexyz ^ important point 17:04 Jordach it seems to be this arbitarial power divide where the operators have power and final say whre the end user cant speak his mind for a second 17:05 thexyz i disagree with this point, bot doesn't send more text than human who asked it to do something 17:05 PilzAdam well, we dont need people here who dont understand how to use a bot 17:05 OldCoder Jordach, not following 17:05 OldCoder PilzAdam, they need to be educated; you are correct 17:05 OldCoder thexyz, I don't understand 17:05 Jordach we've been operating on op and not op 17:05 OldCoder Jordach, Not true 17:05 PilzAdam OldCoder, in most cases people tell them to stop 17:05 OldCoder Jordach, for me in particular... I have sought consensus 17:05 OldCoder PilzAdam, look at what is happening right now... more time wasted to bots! 17:06 thexyz OldCoder: can you provide an example of situation in which bot should be muted but one who queried it shouldn't? 17:06 thexyz OldCoder: that's because of you, right? 17:06 OldCoder thexyz, One point at a time, please? 17:06 OldCoder thexyz, can you explain the latter point? 17:06 thexyz ok, forget the second one 17:07 OldCoder thexyz, It was related to me. Was it agreement or disagreement? Please be specific in the future. 17:07 OldCoder thexyz, Regarding the first one... Enough. 17:07 OldCoder I think... 17:07 OldCoder Consensus may need to be sought on whether this divisive issue should be settled by a total bot ban 17:07 OldCoder 17:07 OldCoder Octupus, Hello 17:08 Octupus Hello OldCoder 17:08 babyface1031 hi Octupus 17:08 thexyz OldCoder: i don't understand 17:08 Octupus hi babyface1031,did the mod mod? 17:08 OldCoder thexyz, welcome to the club :-) 17:08 thexyz it's not a bot's fault 17:09 OldCoder thexyz, who said that it was? A bot is a tool. 17:09 thexyz it's simple python script, it only does what users ask it to do 17:09 babyface1031 i got the textures ot all work now wait to see if the tree will grow 17:09 OldCoder thexyz, This is correct 17:09 OldCoder babyface1031, trees are the bee's knees :-) 17:09 Octupus http://www.youtube.com 17:09 moltenbot Octupuss link: YouTube 17:09 rubenwardy is it possible to wrap text on the forum? 17:09 Octupus Bettaaaa 17:09 babyface1031 i made a palm tree that will produce coconuts 17:10 OldCoder babyface1031, We look forward to seeing it 17:10 Octupus u need the the texture for the coconuts face 17:10 thexyz OldCoder: now, for example, it's silent and doesn't do anything 17:10 OldCoder thexyz, Yesw 17:10 OldCoder * Yes 17:10 babyface1031 but i been threw 5 day cycles and the trees still havent grown i think i go something wrong in the code 17:11 babyface1031 yes 17:11 Octupus babyface1031,maybe try a code that has abms preferabbly farming_plus 17:12 Octupus il get the code for you 17:12 babyface1031 ok ty 17:12 thexyz so, any bot fault == fault of the person who queried it 17:12 OldCoder i disagree with this point, bot doesn't send more text than human who asked it to do something 17:12 OldCoder Issue is not amount of text 17:12 PilzAdam i totally agree with thexyz 17:12 OldCoder It is frequency of use 17:12 OldCoder PilzAdam, thexyz If you seek consensus 17:12 OldCoder Be aware of what you are getting into 17:13 OldCoder There is more than one person 17:13 OldCoder Who will support a total bot ban 17:13 thexyz OldCoder: who? 17:13 OldCoder I strongly advise bot authors... 17:13 OldCoder To build time limit into bots 17:13 OldCoder This is a damn good idea 17:13 OldCoder 17:13 OldCoder thexyz, you are asking me... 17:13 thexyz better build time limit into people 17:13 OldCoder To spend possibly hours... 17:13 OldCoder Into dealing with this issue 17:13 OldCoder I will not 17:13 OldCoder 17:14 OldCoder If I have time... 17:14 OldCoder to spend on this project... 17:14 OldCoder I will spend it productively 17:14 OldCoder There are patches to be made 17:14 OldCoder Worlds to be repaired 17:14 thexyz i'm just asking you to confirm that there's somebody (except you) who agrees for bots ban 17:14 OldCoder Will you damage the project by taking time away fromt hese things? 17:14 OldCoder I can name one right now 17:14 OldCoder But if I name one 17:14 OldCoder You will say 17:14 OldCoder That is just one 17:14 OldCoder Show me 2 17:14 OldCoder Show me 3 17:15 OldCoder I will not spend time on this ATM 17:15 OldCoder If you wish 17:15 OldCoder A community debate 17:15 OldCoder ... 17:15 * OldCoder pauses 17:15 OldCoder 17:15 OldCoder thexyz, now is not a good time for this. I do have issues to deal with. 17:15 OldCoder Do you wish to press this? 17:15 thexyz so, you will not even try 17:15 OldCoder Must I 17:15 Octupus babyface1031, http://pastebin.com/KGAntuv5 17:15 moltenbot Octupuss link: minetest.register_node("farming_plus:cocoa_sapling", { description = "Cocoa Tr - Pastebin.com 17:15 OldCoder spend an hour or two 17:15 OldCoder Going through logs 17:15 OldCoder Writing essays 17:15 OldCoder To satisfy you? 17:16 OldCoder Regarding not even try... 17:16 OldCoder I am putting as much effort into this... 17:16 OldCoder as... 17:16 * OldCoder pauses 17:16 OldCoder thexyz, I will refrain from making an obvious but argumentative point 17:16 OldCoder 17:16 Octupus babyface1031,where ever u see default:desert_sand or default:sand change it to default:dirt 17:16 marktraceur thexyz: I may be the person who has started this, but my initial suggestion was to temporarily ban the people using the bot for useless things, not banning the bots themselves. I foresee use for *some* bot, even if these bots aren't useful now. 17:17 OldCoder My time is limited. More than one person hates bots per se. Bots are consuming my time. And the time of the community. 17:17 Octupus and fix it to your lking 17:17 thexyz OldCoder: it's not obvious for me 17:17 babyface1031 ok 17:17 thexyz marktraceur: i totally agree with that point 17:17 OldCoder thexyz, That is well 17:17 OldCoder This all sounds productive 17:17 thexyz i'd mute bulletrulz instead of muting the bot 17:17 OldCoder We are left with the issue 17:17 OldCoder That I have stated 17:17 OldCoder Issues, actually 17:17 thexyz but i was sleeping at that time =( 17:17 OldCoder There is such a thing as grey area 17:17 OldCoder It is not always clear 17:18 OldCoder If the person who says !bacon is at fault or the one who says !bacon is bad 17:18 OldCoder Am I to watch like a hawk 17:18 OldCoder And decide who it is 17:18 OldCoder All day long 17:18 OldCoder And then decide 17:18 OldCoder Whether to risk losing that person 17:18 OldCoder By disciplining them when it may be inappropriate? 17:18 OldCoder This is not about one instance 17:18 OldCoder I came close to kicking Mr. Rulz 17:18 OldCoder It is about the broader 17:18 OldCoder situation 17:18 OldCoder ! 17:19 OldCoder 17:19 OldCoder I don't need that crap! 17:19 OldCoder D: 17:19 OldCoder 17:19 thexyz so, do you think everything was right with that discussion earlier? 17:19 OldCoder Which one? 17:19 thexyz the one I pointed you at 17:19 OldCoder There have been 17:19 OldCoder a number of bot battles 17:19 OldCoder You gave me multiple links 17:19 OldCoder And what do you mean by "right" ? 17:19 thexyz http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2691031 17:19 OldCoder R 17:19 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06 17:20 OldCoder thexyz, I do not understand your question 17:20 OldCoder And you 17:20 Calinou why not just remove all bots, i dislike bots in general 17:20 OldCoder Have now consumed 20 minutes of my time 17:20 thexyz do you think he didn't deserve a mute? 17:20 Calinou they just clog up the channel 17:20 thexyz i'm sorry 17:20 OldCoder Calinou, thank you! 17:20 Octupus babyface1031,where ever u see default:desert_sand or default:sand change it to default:dirt 17:20 thexyz Calinou: they don't 17:20 babyface1031 ok 17:20 OldCoder thexyz, Calinou and marktraceur have bot reservations 17:21 Calinou moltenbot keeps saying something every time we paste a link for no good reason, saying the title of a page is useless 17:21 OldCoder thexyz, I have a bot of my own. But you have shifted my perspective. 17:21 OldCoder thexyz, I am not enthusiastic about the bot battles 17:21 babyface1031 but i might have them grow on sand idk yet tho 17:21 thexyz Calinou: ask his author to remove this feature 17:21 Octupus ok 17:21 thexyz OldCoder: there weren't any 17:21 Octupus did u see what i said above 17:21 thexyz (or what do you mean by "bot battles"?) 17:21 OldCoder thexyz, you have not been here 17:21 Octupus about fixing it to your liking 17:21 OldCoder 100% of the time 17:21 OldCoder I am tired of the bots issue 17:21 OldCoder It has been days! 17:22 OldCoder thexyz, if you push this 17:22 Minetest-tan GIT: celeron55 commited to celeron55/minetest: Bump version to 0.4.4 ab06fca4be 2012-12-06T11:21:10-08:00 17:22 * OldCoder pauses 17:22 thexyz aww 17:22 OldCoder thexyz, I am not going to spend my days and nights fighting over bots 17:22 OldCoder 17:22 OldCoder I got enough sh*t to deal with 17:22 OldCoder I'll mute people... 17:23 thexyz your assumption that "bot is always wrong" is incorrect 17:23 OldCoder In cases where it is absolutely clear that it is called for 17:23 OldCoder thexyz, I made no such assumption 17:23 OldCoder At all 17:23 OldCoder Read what I wrote please 17:23 OldCoder But when this hits 17:23 OldCoder Half an hour! 17:23 OldCoder This discussion is over 17:23 OldCoder You have not made points as sensible as I'd have expected 17:23 thexyz i'm sorry 17:23 OldCoder Most are perfectly clear 17:23 OldCoder And not relevant 17:23 OldCoder I apologize myself 17:24 OldCoder If this seems blunt 17:24 OldCoder But do you feel 17:24 OldCoder What you are saying 17:24 OldCoder Is not perfectly obvious? 17:24 Jordach anyone with a xchat 2 or hexchat, /ignore Minetest-tan all and /ignore moltenbot all 17:24 OldCoder Read my responses and get back to me later please 17:24 OldCoder 17:24 OldCoder I strongly suggest that bot authors 17:24 OldCoder Build time limiters into bots 17:25 OldCoder Or encourage the use of PM 17:25 OldCoder Or I may seek consensus 17:25 OldCoder On total bot ban 17:25 OldCoder 17:25 Jordach cant we just have the bot pm the data to the user? 17:25 OldCoder Jordach, as I just said above 17:25 OldCoder Or encourage the use of PM 17:25 Jordach like a 17:25 thexyz Jordach: PM it 17:25 Octupus im going to make my octutool:tree now :D 17:25 Jordach OldCoder PING 17:25 OldCoder fine 17:25 OldCoder Pong 17:25 Jordach like that 17:25 marktraceur Jordach: Here's a possible issue: The bot is potentially useful for many reasons 17:26 thexyz marktraceur: +1 17:26 Jordach i know that, but, abusers seem to get away with things 17:26 marktraceur OldCoder: As an example, in #mediawiki, we have a bot that helps us veterans answer newbie-type questions 17:26 OldCoder I was to spend half an hour on Minetest work. I have a meeting in Finland now. The half an hour has been wasted. This is regrettable. 17:26 thexyz Jordach: then ban abusers, not bots 17:26 OldCoder thexyz, who is the abuser? 17:26 marktraceur OldCoder: That sort of thing would be helpful for this channel as well. 17:26 OldCoder One more time! 17:26 OldCoder marktraceur, I agree 17:26 Calinou OldCoder: huh, meeting in finland? don't you live in the US? 17:27 thexyz OldCoder: the guy who was asking it to google porn/p0rn/etc.. 17:27 OldCoder thexyz: The person who says !bacon or the one who says !bacon is bad? 17:27 OldCoder Calinou, om 17:27 Octupus OldCoder,it is more important to go to Finland atm you are losing time :) 17:27 Jordach philterek is finnish 17:27 OldCoder thexyz, you are focusing relentlessly on bulletrulz 17:27 thexyz yes 17:27 OldCoder Jordach, yes 17:27 OldCoder Heh 17:27 OldCoder You are reading my blog 17:27 OldCoder :-) 17:27 OldCoder Calinou, ^ my associate is in Finland 17:27 thexyz and I'm only talking about this situation in particular 17:27 OldCoder And he is waiting for me 17:27 Jordach its #3 on chromes most visited 17:27 OldCoder thexyz, I don't give a redacted about this situation in particular 17:28 OldCoder You are focusing on an extreme instance 17:28 OldCoder Why does it matter? 17:28 OldCoder The typical case is: 17:28 Calinou internet ought to be enough for everybody 17:28 Calinou planes are fucking expensive 17:28 OldCoder Person A says: !bacon !bacon !bacon Person B says: !bacon is bad 17:28 OldCoder thexyz, ^ 17:28 thexyz because bot got the mute, not man who abused it 17:28 * OldCoder sighs 17:28 OldCoder thexyz, I say this with the utmost respect 17:28 OldCoder Read what I just wrote please 17:28 OldCoder Grey areas 17:29 thexyz you should do that as well 17:29 OldCoder Grey is a color, sort of 17:29 Jordach i have a better plan 17:29 OldCoder Look, guys... Phenek is waiting for me. Not his real nick FWIW. 17:29 OldCoder I got business to attend to 17:29 thexyz OldCoder: then just leave 17:29 OldCoder and half an hour dealing with bots! 17:29 Octupus Adios OldCoder, see u soon 17:29 thexyz why are you wasting your time? 17:29 * OldCoder nods 17:29 thexyz we can talk later, of course 17:29 Jordach shush. let it drop and talk simplistic, 17:29 Jordach ah damn 17:29 Jordach meant to de; that 17:29 Jordach del 17:30 OldCoder thexyz, because dealing with you respectfully is not a waste of time. It is important. If you summon me I must reply. But please, do read what I say. You are not doing so. 17:30 thexyz it seems you're not doing it either 17:30 * OldCoder sighs 17:30 OldCoder ttys 17:30 Jordach "you get what you are given" these bots are just like that: "you type, you get" 17:31 Jordach knowing when to use them correctly = your toys will not be taken away as punishment 17:31 OldCoder Person A says: !bacon !bacon !bacon Person B says: !bacon is bad. Fights. Who is in the wrong? 17:31 Jordach neither 17:32 OldCoder Where is the line? 17:32 OldCoder Then the bot gets it! 17:32 Jordach i dislike a two party system 17:32 OldCoder Heh 17:32 OldCoder Parliament 17:32 Jordach op and no op 17:32 marktraceur Jordach: That's not a two-party system, it's an oligarchy 17:32 OldCoder Jordach, you feel slighted because you've pressed for op yourself and it has not yet been granted 17:32 Jordach stand ground until they give a reason not to 17:33 Jordach Jordach, you feel slighted because you've pressed for op yourself and it has not yet been granted - i have no need for power 17:33 OldCoder Jordach, don't feel slighted; your views are respected 17:33 marktraceur Wow, that was an accurate use of that word. /me is proud of self 17:33 Jordach the end users believe the person with the most forum posts 17:33 OldCoder Huh? 17:33 Jordach i sit at 2,500+ 17:33 OldCoder Whoa 17:33 OldCoder That's a lot of text 17:33 Jordach in a year and two months 17:33 OldCoder Not bad 17:34 Jordach so im at near 3 posts a day 17:34 Jordach so that equals 17:34 jordan4ibanez sfan5, can i have today's build so i can do a let's play? 17:34 OldCoder Pretty dedicated 17:34 Jordach .c 3 * 365 17:35 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, c55 just prepares the release of 0.4.4 17:35 jordan4ibanez oh nice, when is it? 17:35 Calinou PilzAdam is a paparazzi :p 17:36 thexyz jordan4ibanez: ~15 minutes ago? 17:36 jordan4ibanez No, when is it going to be released? 17:36 thexyz https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/ab06fca4bed26f3dc97d5e5cff437d075d7acff8 17:37 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/PXchNeYUmPA 17:37 OldCoder mad_moo, Hi 17:37 mad_moo OldCoder: Sup 17:37 moltenbot jordan4ibanezs link: How To Kill a Mustache - YouTube 17:37 OldCoder mad_moo, what are you? 17:37 mad_moo OldCoder: I am a creature of habit 17:37 Octupus mad_moo,define juice 17:37 OldCoder mad_moo, what are you? 17:37 mad_moo OldCoder: I am proud to be hamburger goodness 17:37 mad_moo Octupus: juice (http://definr.com/juice) n 1: the liquid part that can be extracted from fruits and vegetables 2: any of several liquids of the body [syn: succus] 17:37 moltenbot mad_moos link: definr - juice) 17:37 OldCoder Heh 17:37 Octupus BOSSS 17:37 OldCoder !joke 17:37 moltenbot "Using his trademark roundhouse kick, OldCoder once made a fieldgoal in RJ Stadium in Tampa Bay from the 50 yard line of Qualcomm stadium in San Diego." 17:37 OldCoder Hmm 17:37 OldCoder !fortune 17:37 OldCoder mad_moo, sing 17:37 mad_moo OldCoder: Tra la la 17:37 Octupus coool 17:38 OldCoder !quote 17:38 Jordach OldCoder: I am proud to be hamburger goodness - i smell OldCoder's bot 17:38 OldCoder Yep 17:38 jordan4ibanez I thought there was no bots allowed 17:38 OldCoder But the jokes aren't runjing 17:38 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, a point is being made 17:38 OldCoder Let me get the jokes working 17:38 Jordach no bot ever uses caps 17:38 OldCoder thexyz, will then understand 17:38 OldCoder mad_moo, die 17:38 mad_moo OldCoder: No, you 17:38 OldCoder mad_moo, dance 17:38 OldCoder mad_moo, tell us a joke 17:39 OldCoder Ah! 17:39 thexyz so, that's what i call "bot abuse" 17:39 OldCoder I remember now 17:39 OldCoder thexyz, I am simply patching the bot to get her started 17:39 OldCoder Events will then unfold 17:39 Jordach "her"?? 17:39 OldCoder A minute or two 17:39 bulletrulz !tw jordan4ibanez 17:39 bulletrulz lol 17:39 Minetest-tan Shell Advertisement by Alex | Shell http://arcticready.com/social/5172554-because-we-dont-care-about-tomorrow-wher (@jordan4ibanez) 17:39 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Shell Advertisement by Alex | Shell Let's Go! 17:39 Jordach or maybe a few 17:39 OldCoder Jordach, Certainly. Is there a problem with a female bot? 17:39 Jordach OldCoder - i did learn to rhyme the other day 17:40 OldCoder Oh? 17:40 Jordach it was one of my tweets 17:40 OldCoder I saw a few 17:40 OldCoder madmoo, Hi 17:40 madmoo OldCoder: Hey 17:40 OldCoder !joke 17:40 madmoo Famous last words: "You'll never use all that disk space." 17:40 moltenbot "In the beginning there was nothing...then OldCoder Roundhouse kicked that nothing in the face and said "Get a job". That is the story of the universe." 17:40 bulletrulz !tw jordachsnelling 17:40 OldCoder !help 17:40 madmoo This is MadMoo, a bot based on MadCow 17:40 moltenbot Try !up !teach !ping [] !date [timezone] !define !joke 17:40 madmoo To give MadMoo a command, use ! like this: 17:40 madmoo !define bacon 17:40 madmoo !time utah 17:40 madmoo etc. 17:40 madmoo You can also speak to MadMoo like: 17:40 madmoo Madmoo, define bacon 17:40 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: English friar, scientist, and philosopher whose Opus Majus argued that Christian studies should encompass the sciences. 17:40 Minetest-tan Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/jordachsnelling?1354815652.09 (@jordachsnelling) 17:40 madmoo For more about commands, use: !help toast 17:40 madmoo where toast is one of these topics: 17:40 madmoo alias area bbcnews clock cnn fortune google learn math movie nslookup seen spellcheck stock summon sunrise talk translate urban weather wikimedia wikiquotes word yelp 17:41 OldCoder !time Sri Lanka 17:41 marktraceur celeron55: So I think you're one person who will need to help figure out the following topic: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3960 17:41 bulletrulz oh i speeled it wrong lol 17:41 moltenbot marktraceurs link: Package management in Minetest (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 17:41 jordan4ibanez i wish there was a windows 64 build 17:41 OldCoder !quote 17:41 madmoo A bird in the hand is worth what it will bring. 17:41 madmoo -- Ambrose Bierce 17:41 marktraceur moltenbot: STFU. 17:41 OldCoder thexyz, enjoy our new friend :p 17:41 thexyz for sure 17:41 Jordach !tw jordachsnelling - fail 17:42 OldCoder Others: 17:42 OldCoder !calc 1+1/sin(2) 17:42 madmoo OldCoder: 2.09975017029 17:42 OldCoder She does math 17:42 OldCoder !urban food 17:42 madmoo OldCoder: [1/49] food: a substance you eat,then poop out.usually followed my a nap. - Example: hungry.....need food.... 17:42 OldCoder Urban dictionary 17:42 OldCoder !last Octupus 17:42 madmoo OldCoder: Octupus was last seen 4 minutes ago on #minetest saying "coool" 17:42 OldCoder That is a useful feature 17:42 Octupus YESS WHO 17:42 OldCoder Much more 17:42 OldCoder But the best part is: 17:42 OldCoder !quote 17:42 madmoo The truth is never dangerous. Except when told. 17:42 madmoo -- Philip Moeller 17:42 OldCoder Heh 17:42 OldCoder 70 pages 17:43 OldCoder I have 35 years of jokes in her 17:43 Octupus COOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL 17:43 OldCoder This is a one time visit 17:43 OldCoder I will go to buy cola now 17:43 Octupus !quote OldCoder 17:43 OldCoder Oh, and again 17:43 OldCoder !last OldCoder 17:43 madmoo OldCoder: OldCoder was last seen 0 seconds ago on #minetest saying "last OldCoder" 17:43 Octupus uhhh no quotes bye u in there 17:43 OldCoder !quote 17:43 madmoo They say it's a small world, but I wouldn't want to have to paint it. 17:43 madmoo -- Steven Wright 17:43 Jordach OldCoder PM 17:43 bulletrulz !tw Jordachsnelling 17:43 Minetest-tan Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/Jordachsnelling?1354815820.26 (@Jordachsnelling) 17:43 OldCoder Octupus, there are under other names 17:43 OldCoder Jordach, coming 17:43 bulletrulz olo 17:43 Jordach alright 17:43 bulletrulz jordan snelling 17:44 Octupus O cool 17:44 bulletrulz !tw jordansnelling 17:44 Minetest-tan I got 637,377 points while escaping from demon monkeys. Beat that! http://bit.ly/TempleRunGame #TempleRun (@jordansnelling) 17:44 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Temple Run - App Store Redirect 17:44 bulletrulz is that u Jordach ? 17:44 OldCoder madmoo, help 17:44 madmoo This is MadMoo, a bot based on MadCow 17:44 madmoo To give MadMoo a command, use ! like this: 17:44 madmoo !define bacon 17:44 madmoo !time utah 17:44 madmoo etc. 17:44 madmoo You can also speak to MadMoo like: 17:44 madmoo Madmoo, define bacon 17:44 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: English friar, scientist, and philosopher whose Opus Majus argued that Christian studies should encompass the sciences. 17:44 madmoo For more about commands, use: !help toast 17:44 madmoo where toast is one of these topics: 17:45 madmoo alias area bbcnews clock cnn fortune google learn math movie nslookup seen spellcheck stock summon sunrise talk translate urban weather wikimedia wikiquotes word yelp 17:45 OldCoder Back in a few minutes 17:45 OldCoder Some of her Internet functions are broken 17:45 OldCoder She is being rewritten. But... 17:45 OldCoder In the end, she will be a fine cowbot. The plan is for her to be able to actually talk. 17:45 jordan4ibanez can you run a file in minetest while the game is running yet? 17:45 OldCoder Have conversations. Turing Test. 17:45 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, example? 17:46 Jordach bulletrulz now try ;) 17:46 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, maybe you can call dofile() in lua scripts in runtime, but dunno 17:46 jordan4ibanez dofile(minetest.get_mod_directory("package_management")..file_example.lua) 17:46 OldCoder !time London 17:46 OldCoder Hmm 17:46 OldCoder Zeg9, hi 17:46 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, try it! 17:46 OldCoder madmoo, time New York 17:46 Zeg9 OldCoder, hi again 17:46 OldCoder !quote 17:46 madmoo Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. 17:46 madmoo -- Albert Einstein 17:47 OldCoder That is odd; !time is broken 17:47 * OldCoder shrugs 17:47 OldCoder I need to go buy some cola 17:47 OldCoder Back in a few minutes 17:47 bulletrulz Jordach, ur name is jordan snelling correct? 17:47 OldCoder Thanks, folks 17:47 Jordach try the twitter again ;) 17:48 bulletrulz !jordansnelling 17:48 Jordach miss 17:48 bulletrulz !tw jordansnelling 17:48 Minetest-tan For anyone who uses !tw jordansnelling please sod off. (@jordansnelling) 17:48 OldCoder !last jordan4ibanez 17:48 madmoo OldCoder: jordan4ibanez was last seen 2 minutes ago on #minetest saying "dofile(minetest.get_mod_directory("package_management")..file_example.lua)" 17:48 bulletrulz lOL 17:48 Octupus how do u make a thing burn in the furnace? 17:49 marktraceur Octupus: 1. Delve too greedily 17:49 Octupus i mean in code :l 17:49 marktraceur Octupus: 2. Be corrupted by rings of power 17:49 marktraceur Octupus: 3. Be 3 feet tall 17:49 marktraceur Oh, misread 17:49 marktraceur Thought you said "born" 17:50 Octupus XD 17:50 marktraceur Octupus: You need to register a craft recipe of type "fuel" 17:50 Octupus i want to burn leaves so make string 17:50 marktraceur It may also work if you add it to a group, but that seems pretty magical to me. 17:50 Octupus *to 17:50 marktraceur Octupus: Then you should use a craft recipe of type "cooking" instead 17:51 marktraceur Octupus: Have you read the docs? 17:51 Octupus nope 17:51 Octupus im just looking thorught code 17:51 marktraceur Octupus: If you haven't tried looking at the docs, please do that before asking questions here 17:51 marktraceur Octupus: docs/lua_api.txt in every code checkout of minetest core. 17:51 markveidemanis who wants to go on my server: with all gun mods 17:52 Jordach http://pastebin.com/ckPWkpBu Octupus 17:52 moltenbot Jordachs link: [Lua] minetest.register_craft({ type = "cooking", output = "string:string", reci - Pastebin.com 17:54 jordan4ibanez How does one load up a texture as the game is running? 17:54 PilzAdam you cant 17:54 jordan4ibanez nonsense, technic does it 17:54 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, official 0.4.4 build: https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.4-win32.zip 17:55 jordan4ibanez yay! 17:55 babyface1031 can anyone help me trees are growing but with out leaves http://pastebin.com/4KejvFiK 17:55 * marktraceur waves hands in air excitedly, 0.4.4 is out 17:55 Octupus babyface i just made a tree mod 17:55 Octupus its suppose to make pineapples grow on them 17:55 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_sapling", { description = "Palm Tree Sap - Pastebin.com 17:55 babyface1031 cool 17:55 Jordach !tw jordansnelling 17:56 Minetest-tan Oh fuck no. pic.twitter.com/iLNMi1Qt (@jordansnelling) 17:56 Octupus Gracias Jordach 17:56 Jordach get the OS of your dreams: Arch Linux 17:56 Octupus there no more fucking moltenbot spamming me 17:56 RealBadAngel you gonna spam yourself? 17:57 Octupus no 17:57 jordan4ibanez iron ore looks better 17:57 RealBadAngel gonna ask granpa? 17:57 jordan4ibanez realbadangel, how do you load up textures in game? 17:57 RealBadAngel not possible 17:57 RealBadAngel all have to be cached 1st 17:57 jordan4ibanez well, now the game feels like a real environment, good job every one 17:58 Octupus i need a few textures,sapling,tree,leaves,pineapple,stringshards,string 17:58 Octupus i got a few thing to do :D 17:58 babyface1031 did anyone see where i messed up with my trees they dont grow leaves? 17:59 RealBadAngel water, plants need some water to grow ;) 18:00 Jordach well, now the game feels like a real environment, good job every one - what do you mean? 18:00 Octupus i have so much textures to do :D 18:01 jordan4ibanez the world loads really really fast 18:01 jordan4ibanez and it doesn't lag at all, even with there being a lot of chunks loaded 18:03 PilzAdam do you use preload_item_visuals? 18:04 jordan4ibanez no 18:04 sfan5 Jordach: you have an ipad? 18:04 Jordach yes 18:04 PilzAdam pretty long changelog: http://www.minetest.net/news.php 18:04 moltenbot PilzAdams link: News - Minetest 18:05 Jordach i think i may know why minetest is faster 18:06 Jordach https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/543fc6702f4ae9ad4dbc8289b8c3ed7d8b332cb1 18:06 PilzAdam ehm 18:06 rubenwardy (6:04:56 PM) PilzAdam: pretty long changelog: http://www.minetest.net/news.php 18:06 sfan5 uhh 18:06 moltenbot rubenwardys link: News - Minetest 18:06 rubenwardy pretty cool 18:08 Jordach ehm, i made the minetest_game texture why am i not in the credits, and i am particularily sure that sfan5's apple trees no longer exist, not to mention hmmmm he found the map speed boost, RealBadAngel for the 3d model finishings 18:08 Jordach i can go on all damn day. 18:09 babyface1031 can anyone help me trees are growing but with out leaves http://pastebin.com/4KejvFiK please 18:09 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_sapling", { description = "Palm Tree Sap - Pastebin.com 18:10 Jordach if i picked apart the contributors i could be here for days 18:10 * Jordach nods 18:16 OldCoder Back 18:16 Jordach OldCoder -i've been trying more rhynmes 18:16 Jordach rhymes 18:16 OldCoder Oh? 18:16 OldCoder Rhymes all the times 18:16 OldCoder Fun 18:16 OldCoder Night or sun 18:16 OldCoder Are you done 18:16 OldCoder with rhymes? 18:17 * marktraceur throws food at OldCoder 18:17 OldCoder Heh 18:17 Jordach or perhaps the times? 18:17 * OldCoder ducks 18:17 OldCoder In you chimes 18:17 OldCoder With your rhymes 18:17 * marktraceur throws a bucket of soup at OldCoder 18:17 Jordach oh god, homing tomatoes! 18:17 * OldCoder is delighted at the soup and hopes it is tasty chicken 18:17 marktraceur Cream of OldCoder 18:17 OldCoder Ah! 18:18 OldCoder My favwite 18:18 Jordach rhymes do not cost dimes 18:18 OldCoder Indeed 18:18 OldCoder But take heed 18:18 Jordach only time 18:18 Jordach but 18:18 OldCoder They can require work 18:18 OldCoder So the rhymes should lurk 18:18 OldCoder Til they're ready 18:18 OldCoder Ahead and steady 18:18 OldCoder You plow 18:18 OldCoder Now 18:18 OldCoder what's new with Minetest? 18:18 jordan4ibanez this 18:18 jordan4ibanez is 18:18 OldCoder The game that is the best 18:18 jordan4ibanez spam 18:18 jordan4ibanez oh 18:18 jordan4ibanez how 18:18 jordan4ibanez i 18:18 OldCoder Minetest 18:18 jordan4ibanez love 18:18 jordan4ibanez bot 18:18 jordan4ibanez spam 18:18 * PilzAdam starts to cry because of this beatifull art 18:18 jordan4ibanez spam 18:18 jordan4ibanez spam 18:18 bulletrulz spam 18:18 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php 18:18 bulletrulz spam 18:18 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest 18:18 OldCoder Lovely Spam 18:19 bulletrulz lol 18:19 OldCoder bulletrulz, no 18:19 Zeg9 Can I spam too? 18:19 OldCoder Folks we got him started :-( 18:19 bulletrulz yes 18:19 bulletrulz everyone can 18:19 jordan4ibanez yay! 18:19 bulletrulz spam 18:19 Zeg9 oh 18:19 OldCoder Rhymes are not spam. But they should be limited. 18:19 Zeg9 nice 18:19 Zeg9 thanks 18:19 bulletrulz spam 18:19 bulletrulz spam 18:19 bulletrulz spam 18:19 bulletrulz spam 18:19 bulletrulz spam 18:19 bulletrulz spam 18:19 Zeg9 but I 18:19 Zeg9 have 18:19 bulletrulz spam 18:19 Zeg9 nothing 18:19 bulletrulz spam 18:19 Zeg9 to say 18:19 bulletrulz spam 18:19 Zeg9 so 18:19 Zeg9 far 18:19 OldCoder bulletrulz, no 18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php 18:19 bulletrulz i 18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest 18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php 18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php 18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php 18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php 18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest 18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest 18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest 18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest 18:19 bulletrulz laugh 18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php 18:19 bulletrulz to 18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest 18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php 18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest 18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php 18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest 18:19 bulletrulz billy mays 18:19 celeron55 http://minetest.net/news.php 18:19 celeron55 yay spam! 18:19 OldCoder What is the mute flag again? 18:19 bulletrulz l 18:19 bulletrulz o 18:19 bulletrulz l 18:19 bulletrulz :D 18:19 moltenbot celeron55s link: News - Minetest 18:19 babyface1031 can anyone help me trees are growing but with out leaves http://pastebin.com/4KejvFiK please and my palm tree isnt the right texture please help 18:19 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_sapling", { description = "Palm Tree Sap - Pastebin.com 18:19 bulletrulz billy 18:19 bulletrulz mays 18:20 bulletrulz here 18:20 bulletrulz with 18:20 OldCoder Wait 18:20 bulletrulz the 18:20 celeron55 seriously, stop this 18:20 OldCoder Mute flag please 18:20 Zeg9 o.o 0.4.4 released :') 18:20 celeron55 it's +q 18:20 thexyz sure 18:20 OldCoder thexyz, thank you 18:20 OldCoder celeron55, ditto 18:20 OldCoder And I am sorry for getting him started 18:20 jordan4ibanezidk 0.4.fuckin4 :D 18:20 OldCoder Jordach, we'd both best limit the rhymes all the times 18:20 Jordach alright 18:21 celeron55 if somebody starts a forum thread, i'll link it on that page 18:21 OldCoder Or do them as a single line // That should be fine 18:21 OldCoder celeron55, context? 18:21 celeron55 about 0.4.4 18:21 OldCoder Ah ty 18:21 celeron55 just poke me 8) 18:21 marktraceur Y'all forgettin', not regrettin', you think you own, you're just sublettin'; I'll tell you all the way my drawl will captivate all Provencal; the question being, is it freeing, to be fighting, disagreeing? With all this linkspam, get some more RAM, and /ignore our friend Minetest-tan. 18:21 OldCoder marktraceur++ 18:22 OldCoder That is pretty good! 18:22 * Jordach claps 18:23 jordan4ibanezidk Oh this version is just so fancy 18:23 jordan4ibanezidk >Improve map generation speed a lot 18:23 jordan4ibanez improved map speed a lot 18:23 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3973 celeron55 done. 18:23 moltenbot Jordachs link: Minetest 0.4.4 IS OUT!! (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 18:23 jordan4ibanez or improved map generation speed greatly 18:24 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, its maybe this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/b701f8a878b7c76a33d7c3540a4b5e9c6e6b31ac 18:24 jordan4ibanez No i'm talking about the actual text, it's an incorrect sentence 18:24 jordan4ibanez so on that post replace "Improve map generation speed a lot" with "improved map generation speed greatly" 18:26 dzho oh, huh: anaglyph stereo support 18:27 dzho that sounds like it could be fun 18:27 PilzAdam I really need to buy glasses for that 18:27 dzho or make them 18:28 Jordach we need a minetest.net blog similar to how minecraft's is powered by tumblr 18:28 dzho oh great, now I'm wondering how easy it is to find rolls of the right colored cellophane 18:28 OldCoder Jordach, is there a FOSS example? 18:28 thexyz Jordach: because...? 18:29 Jordach c55.me is always dead 18:29 thexyz why do we need a blog? 18:29 PilzAdam we have this: http://www.minetest.net/news.php 18:29 moltenbot PilzAdams link: News - Minetest 18:29 jordan4ibanez 3d, very very nice 18:30 dzho PilzAdam: am I just not seeing the RSS feed for that, or is there none? 18:30 dzho because that seems to me to be one of the requisite features of something standing in for a blog 18:34 rubenwardy The pictures on the home page could be updated with ones with shaders 18:34 babyface1031 can anyone help me trees are growing but with out leaves http://pastebin.com/4KejvFiK please and my palm tree isnt the right texture please help 18:34 moltenbot babyface1031s link: minetest.register_node("palmtree:palm_sapling", { description = "Palm Tree Sap - Pastebin.com 18:34 Octupus FUCK 18:35 babyface1031 Octupus: what? 18:35 jordan4ibanez yay 3d models 18:35 Octupus well i had a perfect tree set up 18:36 Octupus but it dont work 18:36 Octupus im going to make a dry shrub thingy then 18:36 babyface1031 mine messing up too the palm texture arent there and when they do grow now they dont have leaves 18:36 celeron55 dzho: i just quickly created it because my blog is down 18:37 celeron55 dzho: the blog does have rss and atom feeds :P 18:38 OldCoder Oops 18:39 OldCoder Hmm 18:39 markveidemanis hi 18:39 Octupus what mod is junglegrass from? 18:40 babyface1031 plant life hase it Octupus 18:40 Octupus gracias 18:41 jordan4ibanez test 18:41 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, hi 18:41 jordan4ibanez boop 18:41 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, we can hear you 18:41 jordan4ibanez bleep 18:42 OldCoder ? 18:42 jordan4ibanez Oh sorry oldcoder, i am now a robot. 18:42 OldCoder Oh 18:43 jordan4ibanez celeron55 you forgot to add that fire is animated 18:43 markveidemanis who will go on my server? 18:44 Octupus i need a plantthingy 18:44 Octupus so i can make something that grows so i can make my string shit 18:45 jordan4ibanez you want to make a string http://www.paulnoll.com/Books/5000-Words/5000-pic-string.jpg Shit? http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/511065/458376.jpg 18:46 Jordach thats really weird 18:46 markveidemanis jordach 18:46 markveidemanis can you come on my server? 18:47 Jordach i get more fps in maximisation, with shaders, 3d clouds, smooth light, and fancy leaves on 18:47 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163 18:48 jordan4ibanez Mipmapping and shaders makes mintest into minecraft :3 18:48 Octupus jordan4ibanez, its for a mod im trying to make a growing node 18:48 Octupus i wanna make a grass like junglegrass 18:48 jordan4ibanez That's no string 18:49 jordan4ibanez That's an abm! 18:49 dzho celeron55: fine by me. Just sayin' 18:49 Octupus ik but i want to make the growing plant so i can make string from it 18:49 Octupus but i am having a hard time 18:52 Octupus GURRRRR 18:52 Jordach HURRRRRR 18:52 Octupus OHHHH ik 18:54 jordan4ibanez mark yer server is a little...slow.. 18:54 jordan4ibanez JUST A LITTLE 18:55 jordan4ibanez what ever happened to c55.me 18:55 jordan4ibanez windows 7 http://www.mydigitallife.info/removewat-or-chew-wga-bypass-activate-windows-7-and-server-2008-r2-forever-loader-alternative-to-remove-disable-activation-technologies/ 18:56 jordan4ibanez "so unstable, you can keep it forever for free by moving the dll that controls the liscensing and activation" 18:56 jordan4ibanez BOOM print that, that's windows 9's slogan 18:57 babyface1031 Octupus: i cant get mine to work right now too so i am going to take a break from it then look it over again a lil later 18:57 Octupus ok we will try together later 19:00 markveidemanis my server will remain up, anyone want privs, login as me ang grant yourself my name: markveidemanis 19:02 berome markveidemanis: is your server allowing PvP, and is there mobs, please? 19:04 bulletrulz lol 19:04 bulletrulz ok good 19:07 bulletrulz hello 19:07 bulletrulz kind sir 19:09 Octupus FUCK 19:09 OldCoder What happened? 19:09 bulletrulz what? why did u say fuck 19:09 Octupus i cant get this shit to grow 19:10 bulletrulz lol :C 19:10 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, are u back on linux 19:12 Jordach sfan5 - quickl quiz: what is ios' kernel 19:12 sfan5 ios? 19:12 Jordach yes# 19:12 sfan5 what is ios? 19:12 TheLastProject Jordach: UNIX-BSD? 19:12 TheLastProject I have no clue 19:12 Jordach TheLastProject - yes, ios is BSD 19:13 TheLastProject Oh, errr 19:13 TheLastProject Sorry for messing up your little quiz to him :P 19:13 jordan4ibanez no lol 19:13 Octupus well my dream to make a randomly spawned plant just went down like a ship shooting down a pane 19:13 Octupus *plane 19:14 dlowe uh, no. IOS runs on Darwin 19:15 thexyz isn't it cisco os? 19:15 dlowe that's true. I forgot about that IOS. 19:15 dlowe stupid name overloading. 19:16 Jordach https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9dGBkGCIAAlX9L.jpg: 19:17 dlowe Cisco IOS is its own thing, I'm pretty sure. 19:17 Jordach it is 19:17 dlowe Jordach: You'll find the same notice in Windows 19:17 babyface1031 what is license CC0 19:17 dlowe Creative Commons Level 0 19:18 Jordach everyone has rights 19:18 PilzAdam WTFPL but give credits 19:18 dlowe Everybody likes to use BSD's network stack 19:18 babyface1031 ok ty 19:18 dlowe That doesn't mean the thing has a BSD kernel 19:19 Jordach mmm, cola 19:20 Jordach so apple is built from open source? 19:20 ruskie the copyright notice states that it is the bsd kernel 19:20 OldCoder Jordach, yes 19:20 ruskie Jordach, yup 19:20 Jordach O.O 19:20 ruskie ps3 also has netbsd and freebsd built in 19:20 * Jordach wonders why they are so damn expensive 19:20 celeron55 OS X and iOS are both based on BSD stuff 19:20 ruskie Jordach, because of the shiny shiny on top 19:20 bulletrulz celeron55, but bsd is based off unix 19:21 celeron55 bulletrulz: that doesn't have any relevance in terms of pricing or licensing 19:21 bulletrulz correct 19:21 bulletrulz lol 19:21 rubenwardy just went on to Redcrab 0.4.4 after months of not going on, and someone has built a bypass near my land :) 19:21 rubenwardy * :( 19:21 bulletrulz ruskie, ps3 uses a modified version of gnome 19:21 dlowe OS X is based off XNU, which was written for the NeXT 19:22 dlowe this is rather trivial information to get. 19:22 OldCoder Interesting regardless 19:22 dlowe If the PS3 used gnome, it'd have to distribute source code. All of gnome is GPLed 19:23 bulletrulz dlowe, xnu i based of bsd 19:23 Jordach *is 19:23 * dlowe is going to start a @shitminetestsays account on twitter 19:23 Jordach some nice screenies: http://i.imgur.com/QAcve.png and http://i.imgur.com/lBs4m.png 19:23 ruskie dlowe, I believe it's called a troll 19:23 bulletrulz well in the credits it says something bout using most things from the gnome project 19:24 dlowe ruskie: okay, yeah. I fell for it. 19:24 PilzAdam Jordach, shouldnt it be "an"? 19:24 Jordach i ran out of pixels 19:24 Jordach because an sounds weird IMHO 19:25 Jordach because minetest is a single entity 19:25 ruskie but yeah they have a lot of open source stuff inside the ps3 as well 19:25 Jordach which would be like saying an apple 19:25 ruskie along with a lot of games using stuff as well 19:25 Jordach where theres clearly one 19:26 Jordach because someone would say: i want a ipad for xmas. (then do, s/a/an) sounds odd dont it? 19:27 PilzAdam thats what i learned at school ;-) 19:27 Jordach im very prickly about spelling and grammar 19:27 * Jordach almost wrote er on grammar 19:28 markveidemanis hi 19:29 markveidemanis reply_forgot: no, no mobs 19:29 bulletrulz minetest is more funner then minecraft 19:29 markveidemanis creepers?, endermen? 19:30 bulletrulz markveidemanis, this is not minecraft 19:30 markveidemanis anyone wanna go on my server? 19:30 markveidemanis i kno, but they're pretty funny 19:31 bulletrulz Jordach, minetest is more better 19:31 Jordach brb 19:36 Octupus GURRRRRR 19:36 Jordach HURRRRRR 19:36 Octupus im trying to get a bow 19:36 markveidemanis jordach 19:36 Octupus code 19:36 Jordach what 19:36 markveidemanis come on my server 19:37 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163:30000 19:39 markveidemanis ANYONE?! 19:39 markveidemanis 86.134.50.163:30000 19:41 OldCoder marktraceur, Once is enough 19:41 OldCoder Or once a day 19:41 OldCoder Oops sorry 19:41 OldCoder I meant markveidemanis and not marktraceur 19:42 OldCoder markveidemanis, does thexyz server page list your server? That may help 19:42 markveidemanis no. 19:42 markveidemanis no posts on my topic 19:42 OldCoder markveidemanis, Post your server in the appropriate forum and then I believe he may add it 19:42 bulletrulz the end of the world! 19:43 bulletrulz go cash out ur credit cards 19:43 OldCoder That is not for a while yet 19:43 bulletrulz and kill ur grandma 19:43 markveidemanis yessir 19:43 bulletrulz like a retard 19:43 OldCoder bulletrulz, please 19:44 bulletrulz ok srry 19:44 markveidemanis private message lol>>> 19:48 OldCoder sfan5|OFF, c u 19:49 Octupus Me no belive in 2012 19:49 OldCoder Fair nuff 19:49 Octupus that movie was gay anyways 19:50 OldCoder Didn't see it. But they didn't really mean to say world would end in 2012. They just figured it was so far away it did not matter. 19:53 STHGOM Hello! 19:53 OldCoder STHGOM, Hi 19:53 klunk markveidemanis: that's ok :-) 19:55 markveidemanis t 19:55 Octupus what cart mod has the Box when riding the railing it will leave the stuff in there 19:55 STHGOM does an excaimation mark show up on the little icon in the bottom-right of the screen when a friend comes on? 19:56 markveidemanis octopus: carts 19:56 markveidemanis just called "carts" 19:57 babyface1031 i think it was PilzAdam Octupus 19:58 Octupus OOO thanks 19:59 rubenwardy bye 20:00 STHGOM BYE!!!! 20:00 klunk bye, guys 20:04 Jordach hmm 20:04 Jordach yeah 20:04 Jordach i have this mod idea 20:04 Jordach does anyone want it? 20:05 bulletrulz Jordach, whats the idea 20:06 Jordach un-lumination 20:07 bulletrulz ? 20:09 babyface1031 any coders on that can help me 20:11 babyface1031 i made a trash can mod and it works good but since when you hit it the item is trash so it cant be moved 20:11 babyface1031 is there any way to make it trash everything but 1 thing 20:12 Jordach does anyone have a example for on_punch 20:22 Octupus Jordach, can u love a code over for me 20:22 Octupus *look 20:22 PilzAdam lol? 20:23 celeron55 Jordach: what do you want to use it for? 20:23 Jordach a switch 20:23 Octupus PilzAdam,since i took it from your mod can u look it over for me? 20:23 Jordach like on and off like a door 20:24 PilzAdam Octupus, if you dont give me code i cant look at it 20:24 celeron55 sounds like something that requires the metadata preservation trick 8) 20:24 Octupus http://pastebin.com/M7XM0Jhs 20:24 moltenbot Octupuss link: minetest.register_node("octutool:box", { tiles = {"octu_cart_top.png", "octu_c - Pastebin.com 20:24 Octupus lolz here yo go pilz 20:24 Octupus *PilzAdam srry 20:24 PilzAdam and whats the question? 20:25 Octupus well i get bad textures 20:25 Octupus they turn black 20:25 PilzAdam paramtype = "light", 20:25 Octupus O 20:25 PilzAdam replace the black nodes to see the effect 20:25 Octupus so where wud it go? 20:25 Octupus beneath nodetype 20:27 celeron55 an explanation to "why": nodeboxes look up their lighting from the node itself, and paramtype="light" must be set so that the node contains light 8) 20:27 Octupus OO gracias PilzAdam and c55 20:28 PilzAdam gtg now 20:28 PilzAdam bye 20:28 Octupus bye 20:28 babyface1031 i got to go i will be back later 20:29 Octupus celeron55 i put paramtype = "light" and i got a error 20:36 jordan4ibanez I wish someone would make a function to load up a chunk in a position 20:36 * jordan4ibanez breaks out into song 20:36 jordan4ibanez if only i had one wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiish 20:38 NakedFury you would wish for one more 20:39 jordan4ibanez No i'd wish for -1 wishes so i'd have infinite wishes 20:39 NakedFury and you would be wrong, you would need to wish for minus ninety nine wishes more 20:40 jordan4ibanez nakedfury play zombie master 20:40 NakedFury then the wish master would wish you sixty five thousand five hundred wishes 20:41 jordan4ibanez No no no 20:41 jordan4ibanez No 20:41 jordan4ibanez NO 20:41 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/GpLb-_4plFg 20:41 moltenbot jordan4ibanezs link: F2P Games - Zombie Master - YouTube 20:41 Octupus can some1 tell me why my nodebox has purple in it? 20:41 jordan4ibanez It's lyke free l4d 20:41 NakedFury is it a better game? 20:42 jordan4ibanez OH it is 20:42 NakedFury I wish for a more open style survival of zombies game 20:42 NakedFury like give us a town or city and stuff to survive in it 20:42 Octupus NakedFury,how about left 4 dead 20:43 NakedFury have it but dont like it as much 20:43 NakedFury ohh and I prefer zombies not infected type zombies 20:44 VanessaE hi all. 20:44 NakedFury hi you 20:45 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/fd9e226b794fd644e5dce578db206ddc804bd578#L1R666 20:45 * VanessaE smiles really big :-D 20:46 * STHGOM =:D 20:46 NekoGloop broke my foot ;_; 20:46 VanessaE Neko: owww :( 20:46 iqualfragile good work! 20:46 thexyz how about banning mods from going into "mod releases" if they use some kind of "no-derivative" license? 20:47 VanessaE thexyz: +1 20:47 iqualfragile great idea 20:47 iqualfragile but… actuay i think we should define one "right" license 20:47 NekoGloop VanessaE: I currently have crutches and a splint. 20:47 iqualfragile and you need to release your mod under that license or wtfpl 20:47 VanessaE that in turn will lend itself to this whole mod manager thing we've been talking about lately. 20:47 thexyz iqualfragile: "one license" is bad idea 20:48 STHGOM hi Zeg9! 20:48 VanessaE iqualfragile: imho, this game is best suited to CC-BY-SA 3.0 for textures, WTFPL for code. 20:48 NakedFury how about adding minetests website address on the guiPauseManu.cpp? 20:48 iqualfragile & we (forum-admins) should require at least link to a vcs for the mod 20:48 iqualfragile i.e. git 20:49 thexyz VanessaE: not everyone is a big fan of wtfpl 20:49 iqualfragile otherwise it will be very hard work getting all mods updated 20:49 STHGOM lol nevermind 20:49 VanessaE thexyz: yeah I know. 20:49 thexyz my suggestion only affects ND part, it should be prohibited 20:49 thexyz mods with such license can exists but they won't be moved to "mod releases" 20:50 NekoGloop what if people like the code to stay as-is? 20:50 thexyz well, i don't like the NC part either 20:50 VanessaE thexyz: that much i can definitely agree on. wtf is the point of open source if you can't actually do anything useful with it? 20:50 NekoGloop VanessaE: learning 20:50 NekoGloop Damn, my foot's going numb ;_; 20:50 VanessaE NekoGloop: -ND also means you can't use any part of the code, so learning and turning that knowledge into new code will be hampered by such licenses. 20:51 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zt2fXJVuUU 20:51 moltenbot NekoGloops link: Kasane Teto & Namine Ritsu - Matryoshka +mp3 - YouTube 20:51 iqualfragile a mix between lgpl and agpl sounds good to me 20:51 iqualfragile hey, that bot is actualy usefull, everyone gets warned about NekoGloops jrock links and does not need to open them! 20:52 VanessaE iqualfragile: agreed, finally that damn bot has a use :) 20:52 iqualfragile !lol 20:52 moltenbot "No one has ever pair-programmed with iqualfragile and lived to tell about it." 20:52 VanessaE but those !g queries gotta go. 20:52 NekoGloop fuck you all... 20:52 NakedFury yes igualfragile thanks if that is your bot 20:52 VanessaE !g my ass 20:52 Minetest-tan VanessaE: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my%20ass 20:52 moltenbot Minetest-tans link: Urban Dictionary: my ass 20:52 VanessaE see? 20:53 iqualfragile uh, thats not my bot 20:53 thexyz VanessaE: this can be quite useful 20:53 iqualfragile my bot is able to do 20:53 iqualfragile !d apple 20:53 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: apple definition: the fleshy usually rounded red, yellow, or green edible pome fruit of a usually cultivated tree (genus '''Malus''') of the rose family. 20:53 NakedFury dont worry as long as only non abusers like you know the command we dont have to worry 20:53 VanessaE NekoGloop: fuck me? can you read lips? FUCK YOU! ;-) 20:53 VanessaE (apologies to Rodney Dangerfield, from whom I stole that line :D ) 20:54 iqualfragile !define line 20:54 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: line definition: a length of cord or cord-like material. 20:54 NakedFury that guy had/has the most amazing last name 20:54 madmoo iqualfragile: line (http://definr.com/line) n 1: a formation of people or things one beside another; "the line of soldiers advanced with their bayonets fixed"; "they were arrayed in line of battle"; "the cast stood in line for the curtain call" 2: a mark that is long relative to its width; "He drew a line on the chart"; "The substance produced characteristic lines on the spectroscope" 3: a 20:54 madmoo formation of people or things one behind another; "the line stretched clear around the corner"; "you must wait in a long line at the checkout counter" 4: a length (straight or curved) without breadth or thickness; the trace of a moving point 5: text consisting of a row of words written across a page or column or computer screen; "the letter consisted of three short lines" 6: a single frequency (or 20:54 madmoo very narrow band) of radiation in a spectrum 7: a fortified position (especially one marking the most forward position of troops); "they attacked the enemy's line" 8: methodical reasoning; "I can't follow your line of reasoning" [syn: argumentation, logical argument, {line of reasoning}] 9: a conductor for transmitting electrical or optical signals or electric power [syn: cable, transmission line] 20:54 madmoo 10: a connected series of events or actions or developments; "the government took a firm course"; "historians can only point out those lines for which evidence is available" [syn: course] 11: a spatial location defined by a real or imaginary unidimensional extent 12: a slight depression in the smoothness of a surface; "his face has many lines"; "ironing gets rid of most wrinkles" [syn: wrinkle, 20:54 madmoo furrow, crease, crinkle, seam] 13: a pipe used to transport liquids or gases; "a pipeline runs from the wells to the seaport" [syn: pipeline] 14: railroad track and roadbed [syn: railway line, rail line] 15: a telephone connection [syn: telephone line, phone line] 16: acting in conformity; "in line with" or "he got out of line" or "toe the line" 17: the descendants of one individual; "his entire 20:54 madmoo lineage has been warriors" [syn: lineage, line of descent, descent, bloodline, blood line, blood, pedigree, ancestry, origin, parentage, stock] 18: something (as a cord or rope) that is long and thin and flexible; "a washing line" 19: the principal activity in your life that you do to earn money; "he's not in my line of business" [syn: occupation, business, job, line of work] 20: in games or 20:54 madmoo sports; a mark indicating positions or bounds of the playing area 21: (often plural) a means of communication or access; "it must go through official channels"; "lines of communication were set up between the two firms" [syn: channel, {communication channel}] 22: a particular kind of product or merchandise; "a nice line of shoes" [syn: product line, line of products, {line of merchandise}, 20:54 moltenbot madmoos link: definr - line) 20:54 madmoo business line, line of business] 23: a commercial organization serving as a common carrier 24: space for one line of print (one column wide and 1/14 inch deep) used to measure advertising [syn: agate line] 25: the maximum credit that a customer is allowed [syn: {credit line}, line of credit, bank line, {personal credit line}, personal line of credit] 26: a succession of notes forming a distinctive 20:54 madmoo sequence; "she was humming an air from Beethoven" [syn: tune, melody, air, strain, melodic line, melodic phrase] 27: a short personal letter; "drop me a line when you get there" [syn: note, short letter] 28: a conceptual separation or demarcation: "there is a narrow line between sanity and insanity" [syn: dividing line, demarcation, contrast] 29: mechanical system in a factory whereby an article 20:54 madmoo is conveyed through sites at which successive operations are performed on it [syn: production line, assembly line] v 1: be in line with; form a line along; of trees along a river, etc. [syn: run along] 2: cover the interior of, as of garments: "line the gloves" 3: make a mark or lines on a surface; "draw a line"; "trace the outline of a figure in the sand" [syn: trace, draw, outline, describe, 20:54 madmoo delineate] 4: mark with lines; "sorrow had lined his face" 5: mark with lines, draw lines on; "The paper was lined" 6: fill plentifully; "line one's pockets" 7: reinforce with fabric; of books 20:54 thexyz fuck. 20:54 NakedFury omg 20:54 iqualfragile hey, we have got another bot on here 20:54 iqualfragile obviously 20:54 NakedFury what the mega fuck was that 20:54 iqualfragile -v pleas 20:54 VanessaE holy shit 20:54 iqualfragile (my bot did not spamm) 20:54 thexyz that one is OldCoder's 20:55 NekoGloop !define pie 20:55 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: A baked food composed of a pastry shell filled with fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust. 20:55 madmoo NekoGloop: pie (http://definr.com/pie) n 1: dish baked in pastry-lined pan often with a pastry top 2: a prehistoric unrecorded language that was the ancestor of all Indo-European languages [syn: Proto-Indo European, PIE] 20:55 iqualfragile still -v 20:55 moltenbot madmoos link: definr - pie) 20:55 thexyz -v? 20:55 NekoGloop !define cake 20:55 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: cake definition: a breadlike food made from a dough or batter that is usually fried or baked in small flat shapes and is often unleavened. 20:55 madmoo NekoGloop: cake (http://definr.com/cake) n 1: a block of solid substance (such as soap or wax); "a bar of chocolate" [syn: bar] 2: small flat mass of chopped food [syn: patty] 3: made from or based on a mixture of flour and sugar and eggs v : form a coat over; "Dirt had coated her face" [syn: coat] 20:55 moltenbot madmoos link: definr - cake) 20:55 thexyz -v means devoice 20:55 iqualfragile jup 20:55 VanessaE +q 20:55 thexyz not quiet 20:55 NekoGloop should have said "a lie" 20:55 iqualfragile oh, right 20:55 thexyz devoice is only useful for moderated mode 20:56 thexyz or how's that one called 20:56 iqualfragile i am usualy in channels where you need to get voice 20:56 NakedFury I vote for all bots to whisper the user who uses the commands 20:56 iqualfragile i can chaneg that 20:56 VanessaE whisper? what is this, a yahoo chat room now? :-) 20:56 NakedFury and leave the url to readable title feature intact 20:56 OldCoder Hi 20:56 iqualfragile but it would not be a great idea for some commands 20:56 NakedFury hi 20:57 OldCoder iqualfragile, I thought it was reenabled 20:57 VanessaE google and definition results definitely belong in /msg 20:57 OldCoder Is a bot still muted 20:57 thexyz VanessaE: no 20:57 iqualfragile OldCoder: DO NOT TRY !define line 20:57 NekoGloop !define point 20:57 OldCoder iqualfragile, All right 20:57 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: point definition: an individual detail. 20:57 madmoo NekoGloop: point (http://definr.com/point) n 1: a geometric element that has position but no extension; "a point is defined by its coordinates" 2: the precise location of something; a spatially limited location; "she walked to a point where she could survey the whole street" 3: a brief version of the essential meaning of something; "get to the point"; "he missed the point of the joke"; "life has 20:57 madmoo lost its point" 4: a specific identifiable position in a continuum or series or especially in a process; "a remarkable degree of frankness"; "at what stage are the social sciences?" [syn: degree, level, stage] 5: an isolated fact that is considered separately from the whole; "several of the details are similar"; "a point of information" [syn: detail, item] 6: a very short period of time; "at that 20:57 madmoo point I had to leave" [syn: point in time] 7: the object of an activity; "what is the point of discussing it?" 8: a V shape; "the cannibal's teeth were filed to sharp points" [syn: tip, peak] 9: a very small circular shape; "a row of points"; "draw lines between the dots" [syn: dot] 10: the unit of counting in scoring a game or contest; "he scored 20 points in the first half"; "a touchdown counts 20:57 madmoo 6 points" 11: a promontory extending out into a large body of water; "they sailed south around the point" 12: a distinct part that can be specified separately in a group of things that could be enumerated on a list; "he noticed an item in the New York Times"; "she had several items on her shopping list"; "the main point on the agenda was taken up first" [syn: item] 13: a style in speech or writing 20:57 madmoo that arrests attention and has a penetrating or convincing quality or effect 14: an outstanding characteristic; "his acting was one of the high points of the movie" [syn: spot] 15: sharp end; "he stuck the point of the knife into a tree"; "he broke the point of his pencil" 16: any of 32 horizontal directions indicated on the card of a compass; "he checked the point on his compass" [syn: {compass 20:57 madmoo point}] 17: a linear unit used to measure the size of type; approximately 1/72 inch 18: a punctuation mark (.) placed at the end of a declarative sentence to indicate a full stop or after abbreviations; "in England they call a period a stop" [syn: period, {full stop}, stop, full point] 19: a V-shaped mark at one end of an arrow pointer; "the point of the arrow was due north" [syn: head] 20: the 20:57 madmoo property of a shape that tapers to a sharp point [syn: pointedness] [ant: unpointedness] 21: a distinguishing or individuating characteristic; "he knows my bad points as well as my good points" 22: the gun muzzle's direction; "he held me up at the point of a gun" [syn: gunpoint] 23: (British) a wall socket [syn: power point] 24: a contact in the distributor; as the rotor turns its projecting arm 20:57 moltenbot madmoos link: definr - point) 20:57 madmoo contacts distributor points and current flows to the spark plugs [syn: distributor point, {breaker point}] v 1: indicate a place, direction, person, or thing; either spatially or figuratively; "I showed the customer the glove section"; "He pointed to the empty parking space"; "he indicated his opponents" [syn: indicate, show] 2: be oriented; "The weather vane points North" [syn: orient] 3: direct 20:57 madmoo into a position for use; "point a gun"; "He charged his weapon at me" [syn: charge, level] 4: direct the course; determine the direction of travelling [syn: steer, maneuver, manoeuvre, direct, head, guide] 5: be a signal for or a symptom of; "These symptoms indicate a serious illness"; "Her behavior points to a severe neurosis"; "The economic indicators signal that the euro is undervalued" [syn: 20:57 madmoo bespeak, betoken, indicate, signal] 6: sail close to the wind [syn: luff] 7: mark Hebrew words with diacritics 8: mark with diacritics, as of letter 9: mark (a psalm text) to indicate the points at which the music changes 10: be positionable in a specified manner; "The gun points with ease" 11: intend (something) to move towards a certain goal; "He aimed his fists towards his opponent's face"; 20:57 madmoo "criticism directed at her superior"; "direct your anger towards others, not towards yourself" [syn: target, aim, place, direct] 12: give a point to; "The candles are tapered" [syn: sharpen, taper] 13: repair the joints of bricks; "point a chimney" [syn: repoint] 20:57 VanessaE SHIT! 20:57 NekoGloop >:D 20:57 madmoo None 20:57 OldCoder Wait 20:57 VanessaE nice going iqualfragile 20:57 Jordach thats a nope 20:57 NakedFury that was evil 20:57 OldCoder Hold on 20:57 NekoGloop VanessaE: that was me... 20:57 OldCoder I'm shutting her down 20:57 NekoGloop I defined a point. 20:57 iqualfragile fu 20:58 thexyz oh, i was too late 20:58 iqualfragile !define point 20:58 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: point definition: an individual detail. 20:58 OldCoder Pacem Em Terris 20:58 OldCoder Hmm 20:58 VanessaE [12-06 15:57] OldCoder: DO NOT TRY !define {ell eye en ee} 20:58 OldCoder ? 20:58 OldCoder VanessaE, Go on 20:58 * OldCoder is confused 20:58 NekoGloop VanessaE: it was me, lol 20:58 VanessaE OldCoder: nevermind :-) 20:58 OldCoder All right 20:58 iqualfragile yar bot does some heavy spammin 20:58 * OldCoder shrugs 20:58 NekoGloop "[15:57] !define point" 20:59 NekoGloop VanessaE: ^ 20:59 Jordach i had a rhyme and lost it :( 20:59 iqualfragile back to the command-output 20:59 VanessaE NekoGloop: oh yeh, so I see now :-) 20:59 * OldCoder scrolls up 20:59 iqualfragile when you talk to my bot in private it sends you a message back in private 20:59 OldCoder Good Lord 20:59 VanessaE interesting that it answered you but not iqualfragile 20:59 NekoGloop geometry is long. 21:00 NekoGloop VanessaE: it doesnt check if the ! isnt at the beginning of the message 21:00 celeron55 22:47:57 < thexyz> how about banning mods from going into "mod releases" if they use some kind of "no-derivative" license? 21:00 Jordach NNNNNOOOOOOOO! 21:00 iqualfragile but when you do sth. like 21:00 iqualfragile hey zxy, your server is down 21:00 iqualfragile !up xzyanana.to 21:00 iqualfragile you would expect the bot to post to the channel 21:01 celeron55 maybe i could charge money for those? 8) that's what github does too! 21:01 moltenbot Minetest server xzyanana.to:30000 DOWN 21:01 VanessaE NekoGloop: ah, I kinda figured. 21:01 VanessaE celeron55: challenge accepted? ;-) 21:01 Jordach maybe i could charge money for those? 8) that's what github does too! - then your going to hell 21:01 iqualfragile and 21:01 iqualfragile !teach paste 21:01 NekoGloop VanessaE: same thing with #minecraft's bot; if it isnt at the beginning, it wont say anything. 21:01 celeron55 Jordach: i do not think you understood 21:02 iqualfragile * 21:02 iqualfragile !teach zxy paste 21:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: somewhere on one of the old channels I was on, bots tended to answer regardless of where the command wedge was in the line 21:02 Jordach charge money for mods, ehm, no 21:02 celeron55 why doesn't somebody already ban these bots? 21:02 OldCoder celeron55, I'd like to 21:02 NekoGloop VanessaE: That's actually more complicated to set up 21:02 OldCoder celeron55, But there is dissension. Disputes 21:02 VanessaE celeron55: I don't care to have so many in here either. 21:02 OldCoder :-( 21:02 iqualfragile !t xyz spec 21:02 OldCoder Seriously, bot battles are no fun 21:03 thexyz OldCoder: you started it 21:03 thexyz again. 21:03 OldCoder thexyz, No. And you said you didn't want to discuss it. 21:03 OldCoder And what do you mean, again? 21:03 * OldCoder means this politely 21:03 thexyz http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-06#i_2694058 21:03 celeron55 i say choose one bot that is allowed to stay, and all else shall never come 21:03 OldCoder R 21:03 OldCoder ^ Agreed 21:03 moltenbot thexyzs link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-06 21:03 thexyz nice 21:03 thexyz i choose loggingbot 21:04 celeron55 well, loggingbot doesn't really count, because it doesn't say anything 21:04 OldCoder thexyz, I don't understand your link. And I like a bot that stays silent. 21:04 VanessaE celeron55: moltenbot, but let's rename it or something, I think. 21:04 NekoGloop I choose Minetest-tan for the Japanese honorific in the name :3 21:04 * OldCoder is staying out of this part 21:04 VanessaE NekoGloop: what is the difference between -san and -tan then? 21:04 iqualfragile san is less formal i think 21:04 NekoGloop VanessaE: -tan actually means -chan 21:04 iqualfragile nope 21:05 thexyz Minetest-tan is quite useful because she posts git repo updates 21:05 NekoGloop iqualfragile: -san is more formal, actually. 21:05 iqualfragile other way round 21:05 VanessaE I *do* like the git commit messages - that's useful information there. 21:05 NekoGloop one bot with the functions of them all 21:05 VanessaE can't we just combine the useful functions and distill it down into one bot? 21:05 NekoGloop start a git repo; #minecraft's bot is on git 21:05 Jordach hmm, yeah, git is handy 21:05 VanessaE NekoGloop: one bot to rule them, and in the caves bind them? ;) 21:06 iqualfragile i dont think there wouldbe a problem keeping both bots 21:06 Jordach more like the mesecons to remember 21:06 iqualfragile sfan5 and i have talked a bit and agreed wich bot fullfills wich functionality 21:06 Jordach anyways, im off 21:06 iqualfragile night 21:06 iqualfragile so they would cooperate 21:07 celeron55 having one bot the code of which is hosted on git sounds like a good idea 21:07 iqualfragile we have allso agreed on using the ! as first char of a command so its an uniform interface 21:07 NekoGloop https://github.com/grickit/Gambot #minecraft's bot 21:07 VanessaE iqualfragile: yeah, sounds good to me. 21:07 iqualfragile minetest-tan is just some python-based-bot wich was modified a bit 21:08 VanessaE every other bot out there I've seen uses ! for the command wedge. 21:08 iqualfragile my moltenbot was hacked together in bash 21:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: #minecraft uses &. A tad annoying. 21:08 iqualfragile even the network-connectivity uses bash 21:08 iqualfragile i have no problem with publishing the sourcecode 21:08 OldCoder iqualfragile, I'd say go with Python 21:09 OldCoder Convert to Python and add pieces from other bots sensibly 21:09 OldCoder Emphasis on sensibly 21:09 iqualfragile but its actualy quite comfortable to use bash as its great for processing strings 21:09 VanessaE I guess the days of eggdrop bots are long over huh? :) 21:09 iqualfragile and irc consists of strings 21:09 celeron55 i maintain an eggdrop bot on c55.me 21:09 celeron55 8) 21:09 iqualfragile eggdrop? 21:09 celeron55 haven't used it on minetest channels though 21:09 OldCoder iqualfragile, True. But this will be a shared bot. Perl and Python are good for strings; better than bash and powerful. 21:09 VanessaE ok not completely gone :D 21:09 iqualfragile !ping c55.me its down, i guess 21:09 OldCoder eggdrop is historical 21:10 celeron55 eggdrop is like magic 21:10 NekoGloop eggdrop? 21:10 moltenbot host c55.me DOWN 21:10 celeron55 nobody understands how it works, but still it does work no matter what 21:10 OldCoder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggdrop 21:10 moltenbot OldCoders link: Eggdrop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 21:10 VanessaE that's the one. 21:10 OldCoder http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/EggheadsEdwardEDropLogo.png/125px-EggheadsEdwardEDropLogo.png 21:10 OldCoder Nearly 20 years old now 21:11 NekoGloop should have an einstein moustache. 21:12 NekoGloop Doing a report on this: http://www.2facts.com/icof_story.aspx?PIN=i1300590 , wish me luck 21:12 moltenbot NekoGloops link: Infobase Learning - Login 21:12 NekoGloop oh right, lol, you cant see it without logging in 21:12 OldCoder Good luck 21:12 iqualfragile .aspx i do wish you luck 21:12 NekoGloop sucks to be you 21:12 Octupus OC,update on octutool 21:12 OldCoder Octupus, Pulling now 21:12 Octupus :) 21:13 OldCoder Looks good. I'll back up the worlds in the next hour or two. Mods will be updated then. 21:13 OldCoder Anybody who wishes updates or new mods feel free to post 21:14 Octupus :D 21:14 Octupus gracias otra ves 21:15 Octupus (Thank You Again) 21:15 OldCoder Muadtralk, Hi 21:16 Muadtralk ello 21:16 * VanessaE looks at one of her new pills - 40mg omeprazole .. fucking HORSE PILL! :-) 21:20 Octupus Hi Muadtralk 21:23 VanessaE hey Muadtralk. 21:33 jordan4ibanez fuck 21:37 VanessaE problem? 21:37 jordan4ibanez Is there a server with factions that isn't slow? 21:38 jordan4ibanez Like, i wish minetest did what minetestservers.com did and had you register your server, then pinged the server as the page loaded and stuff 21:38 VanessaE dunno 21:39 jordan4ibanez And to register your server you have to have it online, then post the ip adress to the application, and have the server that hosts the server list ping the minetest server, and if it doesn't show don't allow them to register 21:40 VanessaE well aside from not really understanding the point of clans/factions, it's easy enough to send thexyz a private msg to ask that some server be added to his monitoring page 21:41 OldCoder Uberi, Hi 21:41 Uberi aww yeah 0.4.4 21:41 Uberi hey OldCoder 21:41 VanessaE Uberi: yes! 21:41 jordan4ibanez There is a wiki, a blog, a forum, a download section, a news section, and an api section, all that needs to be done is a server list (NOT THE FORUM) and an official mods list (STABLE MODS) in the front page 21:41 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: There's a topic on the forum about package management. 21:41 Uberi does c55 know his blog is down? 21:42 jordan4ibanez No, i mean a webpage that's linked from minetest.net 21:42 VanessaE he knows c55.me is down, in general yeah 21:42 thexyz of course he doesn't 21:42 thexyz feel free to report it to him 21:42 VanessaE now I guess he knows about the blog :D 21:42 thexyz 1000th time 21:42 jordan4ibanez http://www.planetminecraft.com/resources/mods/ Example :3 21:42 moltenbot jordan4ibanezs link: Recently Updated Minecraft Mods - PlanetMinecraft.com 21:42 Uberi well you know what they say 21:42 Uberi thousandth time's the charm 21:43 jordan4ibanez NO UBERI 21:43 Octupus hi Uberi 21:43 jordan4ibanez NO 21:43 jordan4ibanez but hi 21:43 Uberi o/ 21:43 jordan4ibanez \o 21:43 jordan4ibanez Oh sorry, i thought you were giving me a high five 21:44 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Best method for ensuring stable mods is to use package management, not some web page. Downloading dependencies shouldn't be difficult. http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3960 21:44 moltenbot marktraceurs link: Package management in Minetest (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 21:44 marktraceur moltenbot: STFU. 21:44 Uberi it's sort of a cross between a high five and a wave 21:44 jordan4ibanez marktraceur that's too complicated 21:44 Uberi hey when did this bot get here 21:44 MiJyn hi all 21:44 Uberi hey MiJyn 21:44 jordan4ibanez a player would install so many mods they would crash their game for sure 21:44 MiJyn Why isn't there a sitting key 21:44 MiJyn ? 21:45 MiJyn Or a /sit command? 21:45 MiJyn It's possible to do that in LUA 21:45 Uberi well for one, 3D players is relatively new 21:45 MiJyn Uberi, but it has a sitting animation 21:45 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: That's their own problem. If you install 3 TB of packages on any system, it'll crash. The best we can do is inform the player that they don't have enough disk space for the operation and let them nail their own coffin. 21:46 jordan4ibanez see that's just not right 21:46 * Uberi goes off to read the new lua_api.txt 21:46 jordan4ibanez andddddd 21:46 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: what could be easter than minetest-get install hdx-textures farmingplus homedecor ... ? 21:46 jordan4ibanez and and and 21:46 VanessaE and have it track all the dependencies 21:46 jordan4ibanez minetest will crash if it has too many mods 21:46 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: But "too many" is a function of the user's hardware, not a hard limit. Right? 21:47 jordan4ibanez NO 21:47 VanessaE marktraceur: if that isn't obvious, I favor an apt-get-like method with a comparable command-line tool for the purpose, if an in-game mod manager isn't practical. 21:47 jordan4ibanez my mod pack, i had to stop it because 32 bit minetest would run out of memory and CRASH 21:47 jordan4ibanez and i have 8 gb of ddr3 21:47 marktraceur VanessaE: apt-get was one solution I presented, but it may be too complex, and we'd need to bundle it with Minetest, so rolling our own seems like a good idea 21:47 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: upgrade to an AMD64 OS. that's where the problem is. 21:47 VanessaE you NEED AMD64 ro use more than 4GB 21:47 VanessaE to* 21:48 jordan4ibanez vanessae, i have amd64 os, idk what you are talking about lol 21:48 Uberi what about PAE? 21:48 jordan4ibanez minetest just cannot handle a shit ton of mods 21:48 jordan4ibanez I'm using windows 7 64 bit god damn it, it's not my os 21:48 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Maybe the problem is that you're using too much memory in your mods, not that loading X number of mods will crash the game 21:48 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: I have a shitton of mods on my 4GB box, totalling over 1400 items. Plus 256px HDX textures. 21:48 VanessaE MT doesn't crash, because I use an AMD64 OS *and* an AMD64 build of MT. 21:48 VanessaE marktraceur: indeed, and apt is probably overkill for our needs anyway 21:49 jordan4ibanez It's not my fucking mods, it's not my os, it's not anything about me my computer, etc, we need a fucking 64 bit minetest for windows afkjsdgkljsdfjklasdfk 21:49 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: {{SOFIXIT}} 21:49 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: use a better OS where we can actually build for AMD64 without tearing out our hair :-) 21:49 NakedFury a 64bit minetest verison would be appreciated 21:49 marktraceur (context https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sofixit) 21:49 jordan4ibanez BUT if a 32 bit minetest user installs a shit ton of mods, because they are easy to use, and ends up freezing up their computer, and loosing data, then that is just not right 21:49 Uberi is there an x64 MT build for linux? 21:49 jordan4ibanez s/loosing/losing 21:50 VanessaE Uberi: I can supply such if so desired. Give me 2 minutes. 21:50 Uberi well not that it matters to me, on my x86 box 21:50 jordan4ibanez I cannot compile 64 bit minetest, i asked sfan5 to help me but he just gave up 21:50 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Then they need to be aware of the limitations of their system. They need to do that with the normal, stone-age method of mod installs, too. 21:50 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: I refuse to be held accountable for others' lack of inhibition and caution. 21:50 jordan4ibanez No no no, it's not the limitation of their system, it's the limitation of 32 bit 21:50 Uberi no need VanessaE, I have no means of running such a binary anyways :P 21:50 jordan4ibanez 32 bit minetest cannot handle a lot of mods 21:51 VanessaE uberi: there is now: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/builds/minetest_20121206-1_amd64.deb 21:51 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: 32 bit being part of the system, I'd say they're responsible for understanding that limitation as well. 21:51 jordan4ibanez You're arguing against the scale of safety 21:51 VanessaE that's git pulled about an hour ago. 21:51 jordan4ibanez Which doesn't make any fucking sense 21:51 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: can you run that ^^^^ via an emulator/VM? 21:51 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: How would you have me determine the safety of a mod? Run it in a sandbox minetest instance and determine its memory load? That's infeasible. 21:51 Uberi VanessaE: that was fast! 21:52 VanessaE Uberi: I have a fast box and checkinstall makes packaging builds as easy as it could hope to be :-) 21:52 jordan4ibanez What, in 32 bit minetest, we should have a warning "If you install too many you could freeze your computer, WE WARNED YOU!" ? Am i right? lulz 21:52 jordan4ibanez Marktraceur: exactly! That's why a package manager is a terrible idea lol 21:53 jordan4ibanez Package management is great for things! 21:53 jordan4ibanez linux, FANTASTIC! 21:53 Uberi plus the mod can detect sandboxing and not do the malicious stuff for that 21:53 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: We'll obviously make sure the mods in the repository aren't awful and shitty and memory hogs 21:53 jordan4ibanez windows, it's nice! 21:53 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Which I guess is not so good for your mods, but even so 21:53 Uberi there's no automated way of doing that without running into the Halting problem 21:53 jordan4ibanez minetest, it's a horrible idea 21:54 jordan4ibanez You'd need ppas to add in other mods and shit, just fucking bad 21:54 VanessaE you know, a PPA for a mod repository doesn't sound like such a bad idea. 21:54 VanessaE sudo apt-get install minetest-mod-homedecor minetest-mod-moreblocks minetest-textures-hdx [...] 21:55 marktraceur VanessaE: Essentially that's what I'm suggesting, but it should be hosted on minetest.net if possible 21:55 VanessaE marktraceur: surely there's a way to interface windows to such a thing? 21:55 marktraceur VanessaE: Also I'd prefer to have a matching git host and bug tracker 21:55 Uberi I like the current way of doing it, personally 21:55 Uberi git pull 21:55 jordan4ibanez You people are like talking about a way to cut off windows, and macOS 21:55 marktraceur VanessaE: Yes, Cydia is also an apt-get client and runs on non-GNU systems, it's just a matter of using a different build 21:55 jordan4ibanez it makes no sense 21:55 marktraceur Uberi: And for those of us who use gitorious 21:56 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: No, Windows and Mac OS X are perfectly capable of running apt-get 21:56 thexyz how should we handle conflicts? dependencies? 21:56 Uberi marktraceur: meant to say :) 21:56 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: [12-06 16:55] marktraceur: surely there's a way to interface windows to [apt]? 21:56 marktraceur thexyz: apt-get is good at that 21:56 VanessaE so, no. 21:56 thexyz what if some mod exists only as git repo without any versioning 21:56 Uberi you could easily have an update script, of course 21:56 marktraceur Uberi: Better! 21:56 VanessaE no one wants to cut windows out of the loop, even if it IS obsolete. ;-) 21:56 marktraceur thexyz: It's up to a packager to help get it in the repo 21:56 Uberi yep the install base is a force to be reckoned with 21:57 marktraceur thexyz: We can write a script to help 21:57 jordan4ibanez That's not the point, we want more users, this would absolutely push away a shit ton of new users 21:57 thexyz say, version (sha1-hash) of mod1 is only compatible with (sha1-hash) of mod2 21:57 VanessaE thexyz: if it doesn't have a version number, use the last commit date as the version? 21:57 VanessaE (date+time) 21:58 thexyz writing this system is not a big problem, but who will maintain it? 21:58 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: What on earth are you talking about? Making it easier (even trivial) to change the game is a *good* thing. 21:58 * STHGOM IS BORED 21:58 thexyz test mods for conflicts, whatever.. 21:58 VanessaE thexyz: therein lies the rub. 21:58 marktraceur STHGOM: Thanks for the input 21:58 thexyz answer is "nobody" i guess 21:58 STHGOM you're welcome :) 21:58 marktraceur thexyz: The answer is more like "the community" 21:58 thexyz that's even more vague 21:58 marktraceur thexyz: Debian has a vibrant packaging and testing community, we have the same 21:59 thexyz debian is A BIT more popular 21:59 marktraceur thexyz: Developers can help package things that need packaging, users can report bugs. 21:59 thexyz probably 21:59 thexyz it should be decentralized too, of course 22:00 marktraceur thexyz: Anyone can host a repository for apt-get, it's just a matter of users configuring their clients. 22:00 thexyz yes 22:00 thexyz are you planning to use apt-get? 22:00 marktraceur thexyz: It seems like a good choice, but I'm still open to other suggestions. 22:00 thexyz that can be done by a single python script 22:00 thexyz (with tons of libraries required, of course) 22:01 marktraceur thexyz: Yes, in fact, I already did exactly that 22:01 marktraceur thexyz: I think others have, too. 22:01 jordan4ibanez Are you guys talking about building this into the game? 22:01 Uberi the most important thing, of course, is that it's easy enough to use that you can convince modders to use it over these post attachments and file uploading sites 22:01 celeron55 what if a user chokes to death on a usb dongle that contains minetest? 22:01 marktraceur thexyz: But I also think it could be more complete if we used an existing solution, not to mention easier on whoever steps up to develop it 22:01 Uberi if it's too complicated, well then people are just going to continue to use what's easy 22:01 thexyz Uberi: that won't be easier 22:01 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Eventually it could be, but for now it would likely be a separate utility 22:02 Uberi celeron55: well we already disclaimed warranty with the GPL :P 22:02 celeron55 there will always be ways to misuse software 8) 22:02 jordan4ibanez Oh okay, how would you guys build apt-get into minetest without a windows or mac user having to install it externally? 22:02 Uberi or make it optional and provide the old download method for users who want it 22:03 celeron55 are you people seriously suggesting use of the debian package manager software for minetest mods? 22:03 jordan4ibanez This is why i am stressing out celeron55 lol 22:03 Uberi I mean, if people find it more convenient, then it's more convenient 22:04 marktraceur celeron55: I asked for your input, if you have some, you should offer it 22:04 celeron55 jordan4ibanez: don't worry, the reason why minetest is popular is because i make it accessible for all OSes 8) 22:04 marktraceur celeron55: It's also used in other places, so it's not so far-fetched to use it for this. 22:05 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: And yes, if we used this system it would either be part of a separate install for the package manager (and everyone would need exactly one step, building the package manager), or part of the normal Minetest build process. 22:05 jordan4ibanez Okay good c55 22:06 celeron55 if minetest gets centralized package management, it will be a specific thing built into/with minetest like minetestserver 22:07 celeron55 the server side is debatable 22:07 celeron55 probably some http thing 22:07 Uberi oh hey the render distance tuner is fixed! 22:07 Uberi awesome! 22:07 Louis_ Hey 22:07 marktraceur celeron55: From what I understand, there are nice ways to build an apt-get style package repository that's essentially just flat files, and it also offers nice utilities for adding and removing packages. 22:08 MiJyn Sit mod done 22:08 thexyz USE="microcontroller gate -delayer" minemerge mesecons 22:08 thexyz ^^ 22:08 Uberi got a link, MiJyn? I'd like to see that 22:08 celeron55 thexyz: oh dog 22:08 MiJyn Uberi, it's a hack of player.lua 22:08 Uberi ah 22:08 thexyz just joking.. 22:08 MiJyn gotta test it again 22:08 VanessaE thexyz: byte your tongue! 22:09 VanessaE :) 22:10 MiJyn bugs: you can move while sitting 22:10 MiJyn you can't tell if you are sitting or not, only the others can 22:10 VanessaE MiJyn: you can also move around while "dead"/lying. 22:10 Louis_ Has anyone considered the re-addition of the minetest to Wikipedia? Minetest seems to pass the policy by more than a mile. 22:10 marktraceur celeron55: Are you going to weigh in on the forum post, or just come in and mention some vague disapproval of using apt-get? 22:10 jordan4ibanez well if we could see ourself with a different camera angle that'd be smashing lol 22:11 Uberi Louis_: I thought it already had a page? 22:11 Louis_ Deleted a few months ago. Thats why I am asking if anyone considered re adding it. 22:12 Uberi what was the reason? 22:12 VanessaE Uberi: not notable enough, not enough third-party reliable references. 22:12 Uberi whoa, you're right, it's not there 22:12 VanessaE rubenwardy has a copy of it on his namespace though 22:12 Louis_ Deleted by a consensus of idiots. 22:12 thexyz http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest 22:12 MiJyn It works!!! 22:13 VanessaE MiJyn: what works? 22:13 celeron55 Louis_: can you make a list of references that is considerably better than what the article had? 22:13 Uberi hey that even has 0.4.4 in there 22:13 MiJyn VanessaE, the sit mod 22:13 Octupus hi babyface1031 22:13 celeron55 because it kind of wasn't up to wikipedia's standards 22:13 VanessaE oh ok 22:13 babyface1031 hi Octupus 22:13 Louis_ Ok. One moment (Well not better but different ones) 22:13 thexyz by the way, what's the name of minetest? is it minetest or minetest-c55? 22:14 babyface1031 can anyone help me with my mod 22:14 celeron55 thexyz: "Minetest" 22:14 jordan4ibanez babygace1031 sure 22:14 marktraceur babyface1031: Just ask! 22:14 jordan4ibanez babyface1031 sure 22:15 babyface1031 so is there anyway to add something sayong it will trash everything but a pick 22:15 thexyz celeron55: seems that readme.txt is a bit outdated then 22:15 thexyz it also points to >http://c55.me/minetest/download 22:15 celeron55 maybe you should fix it, then? 8) 22:15 M13_ How do you run the minetest mapper? 22:16 M13_ celeron55, my school made a minetest server for the network :P 22:16 thexyz celeron55: sure 22:16 Octupus hi M13_ 22:16 Uberi hey M13_ 22:16 babyface1031 here is the code http://pastebin.com/GL3YqfFc 22:17 Louis_ To be honest, Most of these will improve Minetest's notability - http://bit.ly/UqjcCE (Link shortened) 22:17 thexyz celeron55: should Wiki point to minetest.net developer wiki or wiki.minetest.com? 22:18 Uberi the latter is much more comprehensive 22:18 celeron55 thexyz: i guess you could point to both as community and developer 22:18 jordan4ibanez The new website looks nice 22:20 Louis_ So Celeron55, If some of those links are added to the artile and then it is created, It should be fine. 22:20 M13_ yes it does, who did it, celeron55? 22:20 celeron55 Louis_: if the same wikipedia guys notice it - no, it won't be fine 8) 22:20 M13_ celeron ps celeron processors suck 8) 22:20 Louis_ If the notability is improved, Regardless who finds it, It should ne fine as a community consenus. 22:20 marktraceur Louis_: Maybe helpful that the FSF bulletin included a mention 22:21 Louis_ ^ Yes indeed. 22:21 marktraceur Louis_: http://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2012/fall/new-libreplanet-gaming-server-running-minetest 22:21 celeron55 minetest would need to get onto some large (as in lots of money, because the en.wikipedia.org are money-loving americans) game or linux publication 22:21 bulletrulz minetest takes more cpu then Minecraft 22:21 marktraceur bulletrulz: "than", dear. 22:21 bulletrulz lol 22:22 Louis_ Trust me Celeron55, It will be fine. 22:22 Minetest-tan GIT: xyzz commited to celeron55/minetest: Update README 1d13d106dd 2012-12-06T14:20:42-08:00 22:22 Uberi wow how many bots are there in here now 22:22 thexyz celeron55: you should also update github repo description 22:22 marktraceur celeron55: You may want to contact some proper GNU/Linux radio shows or podcasts and talk it up 22:22 babyface1031 sorry about that i timed out 22:22 Uberi hey babyface1031 22:23 babyface1031 so i didnt see any of the sugestion anyone made sorry 22:23 babyface1031 hi Uberi 22:23 celeron55 marktraceur: i don't like doing that kind of stuff; but i don't mind some experienced member of the community doing tht 22:23 celeron55 +a 22:24 OldCoder babyface1031, wb 22:24 * marktraceur knows he doesn't mean me, so he must mean VanessaE 22:24 babyface1031 ty OldCoder 22:24 VanessaE heh 22:24 OldCoder marktraceur, He means anybody who would do a credible job 22:24 VanessaE that leaves ME out :) 22:24 marktraceur OldCoder: In celeron55's head, that specifically excludes me :/ 22:24 * VanessaE != "credible job" 22:25 VanessaE :) 22:25 celeron55 marktraceur: well, you are one, as long as you keep your FOSS stuff at a reasonable level 22:25 marktraceur Not that I'm not doing my own public display of affection for the project, but that's a separate thing 22:25 celeron55 if somebody goes to advertise FSF in the name of minetest, that i do not approve 22:25 marktraceur celeron55: Exactly 22:25 Louis_ VanessaE, I think you said you wont edit Wikipedia again but for Minetest, A fine try? 22:26 VanessaE Louis_: I won't edit Wikipedia at all anymore. 22:26 VanessaE I gave up on doing so. 22:26 marktraceur VanessaE: That makes me sad! What causes such an outlook? 22:26 Louis_ So not even a try to attempt to get Minetest on there for some prolonged time? 22:27 VanessaE marktraceur: two words: fucking deletionists. 22:27 VanessaE Louis_: I poured everything I knew about the game into that article and it wasn't enough, so I have to let someone else try. 22:27 celeron55 "the president of the united states didn't say this; let's get rid of it!" 22:28 OldCoder Heh 22:28 marktraceur VanessaE: Well, leaving won't help, then there are fewer inclusionists! :) 22:28 OldCoder marktraceur, Needs an organized counter effort 22:28 Louis_ Hm. Why not put Minecraft up for deletion. It is clearly not notable, Just a new 'trick' to get the small games out of the world. 22:28 celeron55 i'd just suggest Louis_ to try including more references to the article and putting it up 22:28 OldCoder It is a thought. But perhaps better to demonstrate notability for MT. 22:28 celeron55 it doesn't need a "support group" 22:29 babyface1031 i have a mod i need some help with, it is a trash can and when you hit it it deletes the item from you inventory but becuase of this it cant be destroyed so is there any way for the code to say everything but a pick or even a certin typ of pick? 22:29 VanessaE marktraceur: well to that end, I have too strong a connection to MT for the deletionists' taste, so my commentary was discarded entirely out of hand. 22:30 Louis_ Just suggest Minecraft for deletion. Simple. We dont lose anything. 22:30 celeron55 Louis_: what do you expect to gain with that 22:30 thexyz Louis_: there was some discussion about minecraft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest 22:30 VanessaE Louis_: MC has coverage in lots of important media sources as well as, of course, being a rather large cash cow. 22:30 celeron55 in wikipedia's rules, minecraft clearly is notable; it has many large game magazines and whatever as references 22:31 Uberi babyface1031: just check it with puncher:get_wield_item 22:31 Louis_ Anything is better than just sitting here doing nothing. 22:31 celeron55 minetest doesn't quite compare with the popularity of minecraft: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=minetest,minecraft 22:31 celeron55 8) 22:31 thexyz "linux format" magazine once wrote about Minetest 22:33 VanessaE celeron55: that said, notice the top "related terms" entry? :-) 22:34 VanessaE hell the whole set of related terms for that matter 22:34 OldCoder mauvebic, Hi 22:34 Louis_ thexyz has a good suggestion there. Add that and it can carry that source's notability into Minetest 22:34 celeron55 VanessaE: umm? 22:34 mauvebic hey oldcoder 22:34 VanessaE celeron55: on my screen, I see a whole bunch of minetest references in that section. 22:35 celeron55 VanessaE: look at the tab bar that you can find by following the line above to the left 22:35 VanessaE oh fuck. :-) 22:35 * VanessaE is blind. 22:35 mauvebic mmm, bar tab 22:35 celeron55 you fail, officially 22:35 VanessaE oh shush :-) 22:36 jordan4ibanez back when i played minecraft 1.3 we called this oldskool style water http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1iDg9xWi 22:36 Louis_ Why not get Rubenwardy's minetest article and just move it into the article space. If it gets up for deletion, Move it back to the user space. 22:36 celeron55 however, it is interesting to compare the popularity of "wiki", "mods", "server" and stuff like that in the related terms of minetest vs. minecraft 22:36 celeron55 they score differently in there 22:37 mauvebic prolly cuz we dont have as many servers 22:37 mauvebic on at the same time i mean loll 22:38 celeron55 Louis_: add all references you can find and try it 22:40 babyface1031 i fixed it ;D Thank you guys :D 22:41 babyface1031 anyone want to test it out 22:42 jordan4ibanez what is it? 22:42 babyface1031 a trash can mod 22:46 jordan4ibanez sounds... 22:47 jordan4ibanez trashy 22:47 jordan4ibanez OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 22:47 Uberi :O 22:47 marktraceur jordan4ibanez: Your jokes are rubbish. 22:47 jordan4ibanez I get it! You could say they're, TRASH! 22:47 jordan4ibanez ooooooooooooooooooooooooooioioioioiooooooo! 22:47 Uberi :OO 22:48 marktraceur babyface1031: So you're taking advantage of Lua's excellent garbage collector, then? :) 22:49 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, 22:49 jordan4ibanez bulletrulz, 22:49 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, 22:49 marktraceur marktraceur, 22:49 bulletrulz lol 22:49 jordan4ibanez iamwieners123, 22:49 babyface1031 there was a mod that we liked on the server but some ppl did nt like the texture so i re did the texture and made where you could destroye it adn re did the craft 22:49 bulletrulz babyface1031, 22:49 babyface1031 bulletrulz: 22:51 OldCoder LAD, wb 22:51 OldCoder I will restart the worlds shortly for backup and to update octutool. Does anybody wish other updates? 22:51 bulletrulz OldCoder, 22:51 bulletrulz babyface1031, 22:51 bulletrulz bulletrulz, 22:51 bulletrulz bulletrulz, 22:52 bulletrulz LAD, 22:52 OldCoder bulletrulz, don't push it 22:52 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, 22:52 bulletrulz ok kind sir 22:52 babyface1031 OldCoder: what about the mod i made or can you look at it Octupus tryed it before i made it moveable and it worked 22:52 simion314 Uberi: Hi, I am wondering about the refactoring you talked about, any plans to refactor the pistons? I was thinking that it would be nice to have pistons that can reach more, like 2,3,4 blocks 22:52 OldCoder babyface1031, I missed it. Link, please. 22:53 babyface1031 http://www.mediafire.com/?2x3l1d1l55le1z4 22:53 Octupus LADDDDDDD 22:53 Uberi simion314: I dunno, I think that would be too OP 22:53 Octupus YAY 22:53 Uberi as it stands I think movestones are pretty ridiculously powerful 22:53 OldCoder babyface1031, reviewing 22:54 Uberi if it were up to me I'd remove them entirely, but apparently some people use them on their maps 22:54 jordan4ibanez How would a trash can be op? :O 22:54 OldCoder babyface1031, is this based on the other trash? Wasn't there a problem with that one? 22:54 jordan4ibanez Make it so the trash mod explodes if it's full :3 22:54 simion314 Uberi: I will try movestones then 22:54 babyface1031 the problem with th other one is you couldnt destroye ot and the texture was the nyan cat 22:55 MiJyn I edited the player breathing animation so it doesn't look obscene 22:55 babyface1031 i change both things 22:56 OldCoder babyface1031, preparing to install. Allow a little longer. 22:56 babyface1031 ok 22:56 LAD minetest 0.4.4 is broken for me 22:57 jordan4ibanez PREPARE, for you're dume 22:57 jordan4ibanez LAD how so? 22:57 MiJyn does anyone care for the .X file? 22:57 MiJyn of the edited animation? 22:57 LAD 1 sec ill upload a pic 22:57 MiJyn It looks a bit like MC 22:57 jordan4ibanez the X Files?! :O 22:57 MiJyn the character.x one 22:57 MiJyn lol 22:58 LAD go to this linkl 22:58 LAD http://i.imgur.com/mK7w9.png 22:58 celeron55 disable shaders 22:58 MiJyn @LAD, nether? xD 22:58 LAD no 22:58 LAD uploaded anew world on minetest 0.4.4 and this happend 22:59 jordan4ibanez Video card? 22:59 celeron55 for some reason your video drivers aren't able to load the shaders 22:59 LAD mine are all updated just got a new computer yesterday 22:59 celeron55 you can see irrlicht's output in the command line window 22:59 LAD hmmm 22:59 jordan4ibanez What is your video card? 22:59 LAD idk let me a see 22:59 jordan4ibanez Well first, what is your operating system? 23:00 LAD wait you said the shaders right 23:00 LAD hmmm lets see if swift sharder will help it word 23:01 jordan4ibanez Idk, listen to c55 lol 23:02 LAD nope did't work 23:02 MiJyn @c55, why did you add shaders anyways? 23:02 celeron55 because they can be disabled 23:02 jordan4ibanez LAD, what operating system are you on? 23:02 MiJyn but seriously 23:03 LAD uhhh i fell an upchuck coming 23:03 celeron55 have you tried to play with them? 23:03 MiJyn yeah 23:03 LAD windows 23:03 LAD feel* 23:03 jordan4ibanez Okay lad, launch minetest like you would when you get that weird glitch 23:03 jordan4ibanez The shaders look really nice btw 23:04 LAD thanks c55 23:04 celeron55 MiJyn: can you tell me why i would not have added them? 23:04 LAD you know you could have told me they can be ternd off before 23:05 LAD hmmm 23:05 jordan4ibanez Well, let's see what the output of irrlicht is LAD lol 23:05 LAD what 23:05 Octupus LAD,may with me 23:05 Octupus *play 23:06 jordan4ibanez Nevermind -_- 23:06 LAD lol thats what she said 23:06 LAD XD im just easing yea Octu 23:06 Octupus XD 23:06 Octupus ik 23:06 LAD teasing* 23:06 LAD stupid keybord 23:06 marktraceur LAD: Are you a Dodgers fan, or paying homage to generic Pokemon NPCs? 23:06 LAD uhhhhh 23:06 LAD 1:that was random 23:07 Octupus brb 23:07 LAD ok 23:07 marktraceur LAD: Pseudo-random, at best 23:07 LAD ummm 23:07 LAD i realy dont like both of thoughs 23:07 marktraceur LAD: What is your nick, then? 23:07 LAD oh 23:07 LAD XD 23:07 jordan4ibanez bbl\ 23:08 LAD my girldfriend gave it to be 23:08 LAD it stands for laugh all day 23:08 marktraceur Ah. 23:08 marktraceur If she's half the typist you are, I can see why she'd feel the need to abbreviate that. 23:08 babyface1031 what do you need to down load to get sound 23:08 * marktraceur stops :) 23:09 LAD for minetest 23:09 babyface1031 yes 23:09 LAD it should be in already but know 23:09 LAD openAL 23:09 babyface1031 Dogzilla131: ^ 23:09 Dogzilla131 yes 23:09 LAD you need the openAL 23:09 babyface1031 openAL 23:10 Dogzilla131 ok but still no sound 23:10 mauvebic weird openAL works for MT but not return castle wolfenstein :/ 23:10 LAD lol 23:10 mauvebic i know that games even older than you guys lol 23:11 mauvebic anyone remember wulfram? 23:12 MiJyn http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3976 23:12 Octupus Hi Dogzilla131 23:12 mauvebic what exactly was the player doing while breathing? 23:15 OldCoder U.S. worlds shutting down. Not for too long. 23:15 MiJyn http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3977 23:15 OldCoder Everybody out of the pool. 23:16 Octupus OC will they be updating to 0.4.4 23:16 OldCoder Octupus, Only when there is LevelDB support and the code is also a bit more stable 23:16 OldCoder Worlds need to work. That is the important thing. 23:17 Octupus ok cool 23:17 VanessaE OldCoder: I expect when hmmmm gets his new mapgen done and merged into master is when we can expect to start talking about using leveldb 23:17 OldCoder VanessaE, all right 23:17 * OldCoder is updating mods 'n' stuff 23:17 VanessaE brb 23:20 mauvebic is there a public server with like, a huge-ass city? 23:21 OldCoder mauvebic, how huge? 23:21 marktraceur Huge ass-city!? 23:21 OldCoder A few of my worlds seem large 23:21 mauvebic like coruscant 23:21 mauvebic or cybetron (how you see it) lol 23:21 OldCoder babyface1031, Octupus Worlds restarting. Test trashman and octutool please 23:21 marktraceur 'm not sure the game has been out long enough to build Coruscant..... 23:21 OldCoder * trashcan 23:21 mauvebic i cant build fast enough either lol 23:22 Octupus i shall do thatnow 23:22 VanessaE mauvebic: redcrab's server is pretty sizable 23:22 mauvebic same map? coool 23:24 mauvebic we need a mod that builds cities by itself lol 23:24 marktraceur mauvebic: FWIW I'm trying to build massive things on the LPGC server, but it's hard with only me working on it 23:24 mauvebic marktraceur they got WE? 23:24 marktraceur mauvebic: There is 'towntest', which would be useful with some modifications for that purpose 23:24 marktraceur mauvebic: C'est quoi, "WE"? 23:25 mauvebic sorry WE = world edit 23:25 marktraceur mauvebic: Not a one, no 23:25 mauvebic shiiiit 23:25 mauvebic must take a while to build stuff 23:25 marktraceur mauvebic: That's the point of the game! 23:25 mauvebic even with a world editor, i cant build em fast enough 23:25 mauvebic well i get more of a kick out of exploring the worlds than building them tbh lol 23:26 marktraceur mauvebic: Then never mind :) 23:26 mauvebic but towntest, how big are the buildings it plops? 23:28 mauvebic i do get somewhat of a kick outof building stuff, i just dont like the repetitive tasks lol carpel tunnel both hands lol 23:29 VanessaE does anyone have that tool I saw a while back that can generate minetestmapper's colors.txt automatically? 23:29 VanessaE (or a link to it anyway) 23:29 babyface1031 ok i will 23:30 mauvebic something that makes a list of nodes? 23:30 Octupus OldCoder,u did it again :D 23:30 OldCoder Oh? Good 23:32 babyface1031 they both work:D 23:32 mauvebic is someone working on a lua mapgen? i thought i saw something about that earilier 23:33 VanessaE mauvebic: dunno. 23:34 mauvebic i was thinking about that last week, dont know how much slower it would be but worth trying 23:35 mauvebic i kinda envy the wicked mountains they have in MC lol 23:38 VanessaE heh 23:39 VanessaE well I've seen some nice stuff come out of MT's map generator too, so.. 23:40 mauvebic ive seen people playing with the seed and getting something nice yeah but it does nothing for me :-/ 23:41 mauvebic lotsa hills few mountains 23:41 VanessaE one of my old, long-since-lost maps, had some nice formations 23:42 mauvebic yeah i remember one of the 0.3.x's gave some pretty funky maps :-) 23:42 mauvebic i built a greecian city on a mountain :-) 23:42 mauvebic its in receivership now :( 23:44 mauvebic shouldn't joke actually golden dawn is some scary shit 23:50 berome VanessaE:you searched a comand line tool (for map) ? 23:50 berome like this :http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2896 23:51 NakedFury mauvebic: user hmmm was working on a rework of the mapgen in c++ 23:51 NakedFury don't know how that is going 23:51 mauvebic but hes doing it in C++ or lua? 23:52 mauvebic or she 23:52 NakedFury c++ he/she 23:53 marktraceur It 23:53 mauvebic was gonna say lol 23:53 NakedFury he/she/it 23:54 mauvebic hmm 23:54 marktraceur mauvebic: No, hmmmm 23:54 VanessaE berome: no, I meant I thought remembered seeing a tool somewhere that would generate the colorx.txt file from the textures 23:54 mauvebic a lua mapgen would be cool for all modders 23:55 VanessaE colors.txt rather. which would then be passed to minetestmapper.py. 23:55 mauvebic though i dunno whats easier, porting the present one or trying from scratch in lua 23:56 VanessaE hm.. anaglyph colors can't be tuned yet? :( 23:56 MiJyn well, yeah 23:56 MiJyn if you recompile :P 23:56 VanessaE well.. 23:56 NakedFury Its name is usually hmmm with 3 or 4 or he can go with more, depends of its mood 23:57 berome VanessaE :-) I havn't well understand... 23:57 mauvebic my country: https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=2807+boul+perrot,+quebec&ie=UTF8&ll=45.351512,-73.952579&spn=0.006492,0.006191&sll=45.351961,-73.953223&layer=c&cbp=13,85.21,,1,16.07&cbll=45.351971,-73.953205&gl=ca&hnear=2807+Boulevard+Perrot,+Notre-Dame-de-l'%C3%8Ele-Perrot,+Vaudreuil-Soulanges,+Qu%C3%A9bec+J7V+8P4&t=m&z=17&panoid=wOlvMLKHrDZFyUJAfmJxSA 23:58 NakedFury my god 23:58 NakedFury nasty 23:58 mauvebic loll 23:58 NakedFury and the blurry part sucks too 23:58 mauvebic plumbers gotta keep fit too lol 23:58 NakedFury god im blind now 23:59 STHGOM hi 23:59 VanessaE celeron55: preload item visuals as set via the checkbox doesn't seem to be saved to the config anymore. 23:59 VanessaE (but the saved value from the config does work and shows in the checkbox)