Time Nick Message 00:00 ecube ohh, nice 00:01 kaeza this is after removing a single node: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1058913431.png 00:03 ecube ;) 00:07 khonkhortisan sand does that on redcrab 00:09 jin_xi VanessaE: skin changing works here 00:11 jin_xi http://pastebin.com/jdq1a9sX used this chat command in player.lua and a modified skin 00:11 jin_xi it changes it for all players atm 00:11 jin_xi but that is fixable 00:11 VanessaE oh good 00:12 VanessaE let's make sure it's compatible with the naming scheme used by player_textures 00:12 VanessaE this is looking really food. 00:12 VanessaE good. 00:13 VanessaE :-) 00:16 kaeza heh V you still hungry? 00:16 kaeza :D 00:16 kaeza where do I put that code? 00:16 kaeza oh nevermind 00:18 jin_xi you probably should not put it anywhere... 00:18 jin_xi its just a test case 00:20 VanessaE kaeza: nope, not even :-) 00:23 VanessaE kaeza1: not even close to hungry now :-) 00:23 kaeza1 this is looking really food 00:23 kaeza1 lol 00:23 VanessaE lol 00:24 kaeza1 hmm... https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1060658419.jpg 00:24 VanessaE Freudian slip? ;) 00:24 kaeza1 right :P 00:24 VanessaE kaeza1: challenge accepted? :-) 00:24 kaeza1 you bet 00:24 kaeza1 just a moment please... 00:27 kaeza1 LOL https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1061036812.jpg 00:27 iqualfragile well, i guess its great to have an 3D-Model for the player now 00:28 iqualfragile i hope that the Animal-mods will use some, too 00:28 kaeza1 iqualfragile: agreed 00:30 VanessaE there, my server is now at the very latest git commit. 00:30 kaeza was there a new commit? 00:30 VanessaE just some minor stuff, new glass breaking sound 00:30 VanessaE nothing major 00:31 VanessaE Taoki: I'm going to wait on your branch until you and c55 push it to main so I don't have to maintain two servers :-) 00:31 VanessaE (translation: I get lost easily) 00:32 jin_xi meanwhile: http://www.sea-of-memes.com/LetsCode72/LetsCode72.html 00:33 kaeza 8O 00:48 VanessaE there, fine. If f10 is gonna crash I'll make my own chat history. tail -f ~/.minetest/debug.txt|grep -i chat 00:48 kaeza cool cave entrance https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1062266507.jpg 00:48 kaeza how is f10 crashing? 00:49 VanessaE segfault I guess. 00:49 VanessaE celeron55 blames it on irrlicht 00:49 kaeza it's not crashing for me 00:49 kaeza weird 00:51 VanessaE in linux the F10 console is very unstable 00:51 VanessaE crashes about 8/10 times. 00:52 kaeza I've hit f10 like 200 times and nothing is happening 00:52 kaeza I mean, it just shows the chat window 00:52 VanessaE huh. 00:52 VanessaE windows? 00:52 kaeza console* 00:52 kaeza whatever 00:52 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/mt-chat-window.jpg 00:53 VanessaE Hm. ubuntu. wonder why it's so stable for you but breaks for everyone else to often? 00:54 kaeza Maybe it has something to do with the fact that on some OSes F10 is the key to bring the menu? 00:55 VanessaE beats me. 00:56 kaeza It happened on my old PC with an NVidia card that stealing the focus to an app at almost the same time the app goes fullscreen crashed the entire system 00:56 VanessaE for me, MT will crash if I take focus away from it at the wrong moment. 00:56 VanessaE (ATI gfx here) 00:57 kaeza I'm using Intel i965 (I think) 00:57 VanessaE therre's a window of crash risk toward the end of the "loading media" screen, from there till a few seconds into the black screen that follows. 00:57 iqualfragile i have never had any kind of problem with f10 either 00:57 VanessaE if I take focus from the MT window during that time, and I'm going onto a server at the time, it'll crash at the moment it's supposed to switch to the black screen 00:59 kaeza now that you mention it, it did for me a few times 01:00 kaeza the crash on the black screen 01:00 VanessaE yup 01:01 VanessaE on that topic, I really *really* wish someone would push an update to the client to let us see the textures being rendered like some windows users get to see. at least that's some kind of activity. 01:01 kaeza +1000 01:03 VanessaE where "us" of course means "us linux obessives :D" 01:04 kaeza it seems windows has impressive gfx capabilities http://osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/can-your-mac-do-this.jpg 01:04 kaeza :D 01:05 iqualfragile sea of memes is getting quite interesting recently 01:05 Octupus lalala im griefing :) 01:06 iqualfragile vanessae: do you referr to the litle block on the lover left hand corner at loading-time? 01:07 VanessaE iqualfragile: I guess so, I never see it since I'm in linux. 01:07 VanessaE but most win users see it as a side effect of something irrlicht does 01:07 iqualfragile its not because you are on linux 01:07 iqualfragile im on linux, too and i do see that one 01:08 iqualfragile well, actualy its more like a reskinned windows vista 01:08 VanessaE I never see it. 01:09 Octupus Landmine if u are here dont die on the griefing server KAY 01:09 Octupus because u will never get out :D 01:09 iqualfragile night guys 01:10 VanessaE night iqualfragile 01:10 kaeza hight 01:10 kaeza night* 01:10 Octupus night iqualfragile 01:10 kaeza Hey octo, where are you playing? 01:11 Octupus a griefing server 01:11 Octupus u want the ip 01:11 kaeza sounds fun 01:12 Octupus u can be on my clan 01:12 kaeza yes please 01:12 Octupus i griefed $ houses today 01:12 Octupus 4 01:12 kaeza $ houses? lol 01:12 kaeza for me that's 0 houses 01:12 kaeza i.e: $ == 0 01:12 kaeza IP plz 01:26 * OldCoder is on a short break 01:30 Octupus ok i done with griefing that server for awhile 01:31 Octupus gtg bye guys 01:41 VanessaE wb 01:41 kaeza thx :) 01:41 kaeza missed anything? 01:41 VanessaE nope 01:42 kaeza I just been playing on Octupus server' and it happens the same as in your server 01:43 VanessaE well at least it isn't unique to me :-) 01:43 kaeza maybe it's me 01:43 VanessaE the old server at minetest.ru:30001 or whatever it was, was laggy as hell too, and it had anti-cheat enabled 01:43 kaeza hm.. 01:44 kaeza Is ping a reliable command? 01:45 VanessaE usually. 01:45 kaeza just testing something 01:45 VanessaE reliable enough to get some idea of the latency of a connection 01:45 VanessaE (or whether or not it's live) 01:45 kaeza your server is up? 01:45 kaeza gonna try if it works 01:45 VanessaE it is up, yes 01:45 VanessaE lemme sign in 01:46 VanessaE ok, I'm on. 01:46 kaeza wait 01:46 kaeza what was your ip again? 01:47 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000 01:48 kaeza ~/Descargas/celeron55-minetest-4fa4340$ ping 24.181.193.82 01:48 kaeza PING 24.181.193.82 (24.181.193.82) 56(84) bytes of data. 01:48 kaeza 64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=1 ttl=49 time=587 ms 01:48 kaeza 64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=2 ttl=49 time=296 ms 01:48 kaeza 64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=3 ttl=49 time=556 ms 01:48 kaeza 64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=4 ttl=49 time=555 ms 01:48 kaeza 64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=5 ttl=49 time=1025 ms18 packets transmitted, 17 received, 5% packet loss, time 17016ms 01:48 kaeza rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 279.757/769.761/1847.494/432.312 ms, pipe 2 01:48 VanessaE OUCH 01:49 kaeza this is bad 01:49 VanessaE celeron55: you seeing this? 01:51 kaeza does that help at all? 01:52 VanessaE how the hell am I supposed to fix THAT? 01:56 kaeza oh well. I guess I'll have to play locally :( 01:56 kaeza It's not your fault V 01:57 VanessaE I know 01:57 kaeza It's just my crappy ISP 01:57 VanessaE yeah but if you can fetch a web page at a decent rate, I should be able to serve minetest data at a good rate too 01:57 VanessaE to you anyway 01:58 kaeza IDK, today I had to wait 10 secs for Facebook to load 01:58 VanessaE yeah well that's facebook ;) 01:58 kaeza yeah :) 01:58 kaeza I guess 01:58 Kacey hello 01:58 kaeza hey Kacey 01:58 Kacey hows it going 01:59 kaeza fine 01:59 kaeza how's the nuclear disaster map going? 01:59 Kacey well today during school, i decided to write down a mod 01:59 kaeza cool 01:59 Kacey ooh it became an adventure map and it is on my other computer 02:01 Kacey writing the time mod so partial afk 02:02 kaeza LOL I'm the time travel master: 64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=4 ttl=49 time=-1 ms 02:02 VanessaE lol 02:02 Kacey wow 02:02 VanessaE neko 02:02 kaeza does that mean i got the packet before i sent the request? 02:03 kaeza hey neko 02:03 NekoGloop What do you want? 02:03 VanessaE kaeza: more likely somewhere along the way the packet got munged :-) 02:03 kaeza O_o 02:03 VanessaE NekoGloop: um.. hi? :-) 02:03 Kacey lol i get that all the time on my phone 02:03 NekoGloop Was there someone asking for me or something? 02:03 VanessaE not that I saw? 02:04 Kacey nope 02:04 kaeza nope 02:04 kaeza FOREVER ALONE! 02:04 VanessaE neko: minetest 0.4.4, 24.181.193.82, port 30000 - give me a skin to use for you and sign on when I say, and get busy building :D 02:04 Kacey 0.4.4? all ready?!?! 02:04 NekoGloop I'd still have to scrounge up 0.44 02:04 NekoGloop 0.4.4* 02:04 kaeza yup 02:05 VanessaE Kacey: yep. released yesterday, some bugfixes added today. 02:05 kaeza with 3D players YAY! 02:05 Kacey where do i download this magical version? 02:05 kaeza compile 02:05 kaeza :) 02:05 Kacey 3D PLAYERS!!!!!! 02:05 VanessaE kaeza: from sources. :-) 02:05 Kacey i cannot compile on windows 02:05 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master 02:05 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commits/master 02:05 NekoGloop VanessaE: Nothin' like a mistab. 02:06 VanessaE meh 02:06 VanessaE click on "code" :-0 02:06 VanessaE :-) 02:06 Kacey ooh wait i have a vm for compiling 02:06 kaeza I don't know if it can be cross-compiled from my machine, but if I could I'd do it for you 02:06 Kacey teamviewer 02:06 NekoGloop Teamviewer is crap. 02:07 Kacey but it works for compiling noobs 02:07 VanessaE or just wait a couple of days 02:07 Kacey like me 02:07 kaeza listen to NekoGloop 02:07 kaeza he's tha man 02:07 VanessaE 3d players' hats have been implemented and will be pushed to master ^^^^ soon. 02:07 kaeza umm... or woman? 02:07 NekoGloop Try nekoshounen; catboy. :3 02:07 Kacey a couple of days?!?!?!?!?! O.o that is like a month in teenager years 02:08 kaeza lol 02:08 VanessaE Kacey: well if you don't give a shit about players' hats, grab the sources now :D 02:08 kaeza Kacey: try VirtualBox 02:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: I'd rather wait. 02:08 Kacey i have a vm but that is linux and it doesnt transfer 02:08 kaeza or if you feel a bit lucky, DL a linux distro and setup a dual-boot system 02:08 Kacey back to windows 02:10 kaeza I have a cross compiler Linux -> MinGW32 02:10 OldCoder Windows is Sindows :p 02:10 kaeza Shitdows :) 02:10 Kacey well i didnt choose my os 02:11 Kacey winshit 02:11 kaeza that is your RIGHT 02:11 NekoGloop Shitnix. 02:11 Kacey not really i didnt choose my computer 02:11 OldCoder NekoGloop, sorry; I didn't mean to start that 02:11 kaeza wat 02:11 OldCoder kaeza, Kacey Leave Windows alone; I shouldn't have started that 02:11 OldCoder To each their own 02:11 kaeza k J&K 02:11 kaeza J/K 02:11 OldCoder Yes 02:12 OldCoder Kacey, I just dropped back in 02:12 NekoGloop If i want what i paid for, then let me have it. 02:12 OldCoder What problem are you having? 02:12 Kacey oldcoder can you teach me how to compile with MinGW? 02:12 OldCoder NekoGloop, I agree 02:12 OldCoder Kacey, Yes 02:12 OldCoder I can 02:12 Kacey k pm please 02:12 OldCoder I can provide scripts etc. 02:12 OldCoder Kacey, No need 02:12 OldCoder Kacey, I am unable to do much for a while longer 02:12 NekoGloop Such as the technic pack for minecraft. 02:13 Kacey ooh ok well let me finish this tool and get the latest version of minetest 02:13 OldCoder I expect to straighten things out and post everything 02:13 NekoGloop If i paid for minecraft, i have every right to use its modifications as well. 02:13 kaeza NekoGloop: +1 02:13 Kacey same ^ 02:14 * NekoGloop shuffles his deck of +1's 02:14 * kaeza has lol'd 02:14 * Kacey shuffles across the floor to lmfao 02:15 NekoGloop Seriously, i just utter a pearl of wisdom in #minecraft and i get +10000000 :3 02:15 OldCoder Hmm? 02:15 Kacey lol same in the school for me 02:15 OldCoder That is a big number 02:15 NekoGloop Yeup. 02:15 kaeza hey! I just told a n008 how to start a program on Y! answers and got best answer 02:16 Kacey lol 02:16 VanessaE kaeza: Achievement Unlocked - you receive 1000 internets. 02:16 VanessaE :D 02:16 Kacey what do i download? i see WAY too many things here 02:16 * kaeza welcomes all to the Internet, where people know how to chat but don't know how to start a F*CKING program 02:16 Kacey lolz 02:17 kaeza VanessaE: thanks :) 02:17 Kacey is it bump version to 0.4.4 or something like that? 02:17 NekoGloop Off-topic: i just made a jetpack in minecraft technic woot! 02:18 VanessaE Kacey: it was. but there are more commits after that. 02:18 VanessaE Kacey: the latest just past 0.4.4 has several bug fixes. 02:18 Kacey so what do i download 02:18 NekoGloop Jetpack + portalgun mod's long fall boots = wheee~~ 02:18 kaeza NekoGloop: any chance to get this to MT? 02:18 VanessaE Kacey: nothing. you don't know how to handle compiling from github, so better you should wait for someone to package latest git for you. 02:18 NekoGloop kaeza: I mean ingame, i dont know a lick of java and my lua skills suck. 02:19 kaeza hm... 02:19 kaeza It would be cool to see this 02:19 NekoGloop We'd need equipment first likely. 02:19 Kacey i can compile with oldcoder's help but i need to know what to download 02:19 kaeza for servers that don't allow free move 02:20 kaeza Kacey: go to the main github page 02:20 NakedFury ill wait for oldcoders compiled version 02:20 VanessaE Kacey: fetch the very latest sources from https://github.com/celeron55/minetest and https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game 02:20 kaeza what was it again? 02:20 VanessaE compile them. 02:20 kaeza yep that is 02:20 kaeza and hit the "ZIP" button at the top of the file list 02:20 NakedFury do we have 3d armor for characters already? 02:20 Kacey what file of them do i download?!?! 02:21 Kacey ok found it 02:21 NekoGloop NakedFury: No. 02:21 kaeza ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME? 02:21 VanessaE NakedFury: no, but we have good 3d players that use minecraft skins :-) 02:21 VanessaE Kacey: stop. 02:21 NekoGloop The headwear from the minecraft skin format is implemented. 02:21 Kacey i found it 02:21 kaeza Kacey: go to https://github.com/celeron55/minetest in your browser, and hit the "ZIP" button! 02:21 NakedFury ok. so minetest is going with minecraft models for good or just as placeholder for now? 02:21 kaeza oh nevermind 02:21 VanessaE Kacey: read this IN DETAIL. https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L78 02:22 kaeza this ^ 02:22 OldCoder R 02:22 OldCoder Kacey, I may be able to start over with all of this around December 1 02:22 Kacey start over? 02:23 OldCoder Not bad 02:23 OldCoder Catch up 02:23 OldCoder If that sounds better 02:23 Kacey ooh 02:23 OldCoder Things have gotten a bit crazy recently 02:23 Kacey lol 02:23 * OldCoder shrugs 02:23 OldCoder O_o :p 02:24 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Umd-2moT3Y 02:24 Kacey ooh boy this cold be bad... 02:24 NakedFury OldCoder no problem, we can wait 02:25 OldCoder NakedFury, ty 02:25 OldCoder Kacey, sorry to hear it 02:27 kaeza can somebody please post a link to a precompiled Irrlicht package for MinGW32? 02:28 kaeza oh found it! 02:29 VanessaE kaeza: you can build against irrlicht source also 02:29 kaeza yes 02:29 VanessaE I did that once under Ubuntu Intrepid 02:29 kaeza i'm currently DL'gin 02:29 VanessaE (as a test) 02:29 kaeza ing* 02:30 kaeza I have cross-compilation support in my game, Legend of Cosmo 02:30 kaeza out of the box 02:30 Kacey_ sorry computer went stupid 02:30 kaeza lol 02:30 kaeza there you go 02:31 kaeza :) 02:31 Kacey well that sucke 02:31 kaeza WOW I think I'll take a look at this Irrlicht thing 02:31 Kacey heey 02:31 aggies sup 02:31 kaeza seems fun :) 02:31 kaeza hi 02:32 Kacey lol soooo much stuff today 02:32 aggies who all is on 02:32 Kacey this is aggies, my brother 02:32 Kacey look on the left side 02:32 * Kacey slaps aggies with a rainbow trout 02:32 kaeza I suck at 3D coding 02:33 Kacey lolz 02:33 kaeza trigonometry and such things 02:33 Kacey lolz 02:33 * aggies slap Kacey in the face with globe 02:33 Kacey downloading minetest_game now 02:33 * Kacey slaps aggies with a big red brick 02:33 Kacey i have a slap button 02:34 * NekoGloop slaps NekoGloop-- owie. 02:34 * kaeza slaps both Kacey and aggies 02:34 Kacey i hate when that happens lol 02:34 * aggies slaps Kacey in the face with the world 02:34 * Kacey ducks 02:34 * aggies jumps 02:34 kaeza YAY! slapwar! 02:35 * Kacey slaps kaeza with a rainbow trout 02:35 Kacey i win 02:35 * aggies slaps Kacey with his laptop 02:35 * Kacey slaps aggies with Bill Gates' wallet 02:35 * kaeza takes out a BFG9000: you're all fucked 02:35 * VanessaE clobbers Kacey over the head with a 30kg soaking-wet Programmer's Reference Guide for Linux Super-Geeks 02:36 * Kacey slaps VanessaE with the Microsoft user guide 02:36 * aggies slaps Kacey with an atom bomb 02:36 VanessaE oh wow, one whole page :-) 02:36 Kacey lol not this one 02:36 VanessaE (which reads "Point and drool." ) 02:36 * VanessaE ducks 02:36 Kacey thickest book i have ever seen 02:36 * kaeza is questioning if there can be a 30KG book for Linux, since all books are at least 50KG 02:37 * sokomine showes everyone fighting into one of the arenas to make some young players who like to fight happy :-) 02:37 * aggies jumps onto Kacey and brings him down 02:37 * Kacey slaps kaeza with the Wrld Dictionary 02:37 NekoGloop VanessaE: Nope. 02:37 NekoGloop It reads "Bing it" 02:37 sokomine oh no! the microsoft user guide is a violation of the geneve convention! 02:37 Kacey wow that failed it was supposed to say World 02:37 * aggies slaps kaeza with steve hawkings wheelchair 02:38 * kaeza takes the chair: WHEEE! 02:38 * Kacey hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK 02:38 VanessaE NekoGloop: oh, right. 02:39 * aggies throws NekoGloop to the moon 02:39 NekoGloop Spaaaaaaaaaaccccccceeeeeeee!!!!!!!! 02:39 kaeza NekoGloop: lol 02:39 NekoGloop /spacecore 02:39 Kacey guess how long it took aggies to come up with that 02:40 * aggies took a couple of seconds i was afk for a min 02:40 Kacey /me hits everybody with SPELL-CHECK 02:40 * sokomine hopes that nekogloop builds a base on the moon 02:40 aggies fail 02:40 Kacey wtf?!?!?!?! 02:40 * Kacey hits everybody with SPELL-CHECK 02:40 kaeza Internet not working, Suggest help from the internet -- Scumbag MS Windows 02:40 * NekoGloop spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccccccccccceeeee!!!!!!!!!!! 02:40 Kacey aah un needed space 02:40 * NekoGloop is now the portal 2 space core. 02:41 * NekoGloop what have you done. 02:41 * aggies throw kaeza to the heliosphere 02:41 * Kacey is secretly Chuck Norris 02:41 * aggies is secretly bruce lee 02:42 * Kacey hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK 02:42 kaeza Yeah, Bruce Lee kicked Chuck's ass HARD! 02:42 Kacey until Bruce died 02:42 NekoGloop ... 02:42 NekoGloop I'm in space... I'm in space... 02:42 Kacey aggies: GET THE HINT!!!!! 02:42 NekoGloop SPAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIICCCCEEEEE~~~~~~!!!!!!!!! 02:43 Kacey anyone remember my bot? 02:43 kaeza spaice? 02:43 sokomine don't fall off the map :-) 02:43 * aggies bring NekoGloop back to earth 02:43 kaeza lol NekoGloop is at (0,32000,0) 02:43 * NekoGloop feverishly mutters about space 02:43 * aggies is on roof of house 02:43 * Kacey hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK 02:44 * aggies drive skidstere into haystack 02:44 kaeza wat 02:44 * Kacey hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK 02:44 Kacey he can't spell 02:45 * aggies hits Kacey in face with spell check 02:45 * Kacey hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK 02:45 Kacey and it annoys him 02:45 * NekoGloop randomly shoots a portal above and at the feet of Kacey 02:45 NekoGloop Infinite loop now! 02:45 Kacey WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! 02:45 * aggies in SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEE 02:45 NekoGloop aggies: :( 02:45 * Kacey hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK 02:46 Kacey OldCoder? 02:46 * aggies says what 02:46 * Kacey slaps aggies with a big red brick 02:46 * aggies is a hobbit 02:47 Kacey /me likes purple 02:47 * sokomine waits until kacey hits three more times so that a brick block can be crafted 02:47 OldCoder Kacey, All right 02:47 kaeza Kacey: fail 02:47 OldCoder Purple. Noted. 02:47 Kacey lol 02:47 OldCoder Hobbits are habits. 02:47 * aggies like blue 02:47 Kacey that didnt work like i wanted 02:47 OldCoder No :-) 02:47 Kacey ok how may i compile 02:48 aggies hi OldCoder 02:48 * Kacey stabs aggies 02:48 * kaeza likes the green color of the Oranges (note I'm colorblind :P ) 02:48 * aggies runs over Kacey 02:48 Kacey ooh green oranges i love them 02:48 * aggies loves green tomatoes 02:48 * Kacey is made of Chevy 02:49 * NekoGloop is made of little kitties 02:49 * aggies is afk 02:49 * kaeza politely requests Kacey and aggies to SHUT THE FUCK UP 02:49 * Kacey pokes celeron55 to see if he is alive 02:49 * Kacey notes the request 02:50 VanessaE by now c55 is asleep 02:50 VanessaE or I would assume so 02:50 kaeza yeah 02:50 Kacey i have never talked to him 02:50 Kacey OldCoder how do i compile? 02:50 Kacey using MinGW 02:51 kaeza Kacey: I'm now crosscompiling 02:51 Kacey ? 02:51 kaeza hope it works 02:51 OldCoder Kacey, there are two ways 02:51 Kacey well i want to compile my own 02:51 OldCoder Start with a build script that C55 provides 02:51 OldCoder That is how you start 02:51 OldCoder Then tailor the script to your liking 02:51 Kacey i have minetest -master 02:52 OldCoder Or: Do the same thing starting with my code 02:52 OldCoder That will be incompatible with most worlds 02:52 * aggies is back 02:52 kaeza hey Tom____ 02:52 Tom_____ Hey 02:52 Kacey ooh im going to change code 02:53 aggies wat code 02:53 Kacey source code 02:53 aggies which is 02:53 Kacey what makes minetest 02:53 aggies oooooo 02:54 Kacey ya 02:54 * aggies pokes Dogzilla131 to c if dead 02:54 kaeza Kacey: I think you should have something similar to celeron-minetest-XXXXXX 02:54 Kacey nvm on changing it 02:55 Kacey i have the git pull 02:55 Kacey alright OldCoder now what 02:55 * Dogzilla131 wakes up and starts barking 02:55 * aggies runs to get gun 02:55 * kaeza pats Dogzilla331 02:55 * Dogzilla131 stop barking 02:55 * Kacey stabs aggies 02:56 Kacey (sw) 02:56 * aggies shoots Kacey 02:56 * Dogzilla131 happy with kaeza and begs for a treat 02:56 * Kacey is immortal 02:56 * Kacey jumps on Dogzilla131 and tries to ride him like a horse 02:56 * aggies is also immortal 02:56 * kaeza gives Dogzilla331 a shot of wine 02:57 * Dogzilla131 turns to a dogzilla and tries to get aggie 02:57 Kacey uugh i only have 3 more minutes 02:57 Kacey where is OldCoder when i need him? 02:57 * aggies try to give Dogzilla131 some food 02:57 * Dogzilla131 eats it but carefully 02:58 * Dogzilla131 looks at aggies 02:58 * kaeza is listening to I Wanna Rock and Roll All Night by Kiss 02:58 * aggies tries to pet Dogzilla131 02:58 NekoGloop Meow? 3: 02:58 Kacey that is a good song 02:58 * Kacey pets NekoGloop 02:58 * NekoGloop purrs :3 02:59 * Kacey picks up Neko 02:59 * Dogzilla131 goes back to normal dog size and wags hes tail 02:59 * aggies listens to gangham style 02:59 * Dogzilla131 looks at NekoGloop, but he does not hate cats 02:59 * aggies gives Dogzilla131 a bone 03:00 * NekoGloop shys away from dogzilla and cuddles up to kacey who is holding him :3 03:00 * Kacey lets go of Neko and bicycle kicks him across the room 03:00 NekoGloop D: 03:00 Kacey i love doing that 03:00 * aggies is lmfao 03:00 * Kacey rubs his foot that now hurts from kicking Neko 03:00 * Dogzilla131 is a transformer , he turns to a Golden Retriever 03:00 Kacey i gtg bye 03:01 Dogzilla131 bye 03:01 * aggies gives Neko some food 03:01 kaeza Kacey, aggies: Achievement Unlocked: Steal a channel for tthree pages 03:01 * NekoGloop nibbles it 03:01 * Dogzilla131 now turns to a Labrador Retriever 03:01 * aggies pets Neko 03:01 * Dogzilla131 turns to a chihuahua 03:02 * NekoGloop purrs :3 03:02 * Dogzilla131 wants a pat 03:02 * NekoGloop pets doggy~ :3 03:02 * kaeza is listening to We Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who 03:02 * aggies dropskicks Dogzilla131 as chihuahua 03:02 kaeza hey RC 03:02 VanessaE hey redcrab 03:02 aggies sup redcrab 03:03 kaeza V: I thought you were dead 03:03 * aggies says who 03:03 kaeza :( 03:03 * aggies is afk 03:05 * aggies is GATman 03:05 VanessaE nope, just going slow now. 03:05 NekoGloop It's too hard to disconnect. Dammit. 03:05 kaeza NekoGloop: wat 03:06 NekoGloop s/hard/easy/ 03:06 kaeza oh 03:07 VanessaE heh 03:07 * aggies is secretly eminem 03:08 * NekoGloop is secretly the space core 03:08 * aggies is bored 03:08 kaeza aggies: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22376084.jpg 03:09 * aggies kicks Neko across the universe 03:10 NekoGloop Ssssssssssspppppppppppaaaaaaaaacccccccceeeeeee.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 03:10 aggies I GATman u can't hurt me 03:10 VanessaE ... 03:11 NekoGloop VanessaE: Wut? 03:11 VanessaE nuthin' 03:11 aggies i love sibling rivalerie 03:11 NekoGloop Heh. 03:11 aggies look up GATman and robin and u would c 03:12 kaeza OK, now starting x-compilation to MinGW32. Wish me luck :) 03:12 * aggies makes Neko into venus 03:12 * NekoGloop blows up 03:12 * aggies makes Neko run into the sun as venus 03:13 * NekoGloop reconstitues as the creeper-steve hybrid that is his minecraft skin. 03:13 * aggies eat chocolate pie 03:13 khonkhortisan "space corp" 03:14 kaeza slowbro shows up as khonkhortisan 03:14 * aggies jumps cause khankhotisan is alive 03:14 khonkhortisan firefox was taking 70% mem, with only three tabs 03:14 NekoGloop genghis khan(khortisan) 03:14 kaeza ditch Shitdows 03:14 kaeza :) 03:14 sdzen|away only 70%? 03:14 khonkhortisan yep, still here, just playing rpgs and wrestling with opengl 03:14 NekoGloop kaeza: Firefox is a mem hog on any os. 03:15 khonkhortisan Neko I don't understand you 03:15 sdzen|away it should be taking 100 03:15 kaeza also ditch FF, use Chromium :) 03:15 khonkhortisan oh. 03:15 * khonkhortisan didn't like history class 03:15 NekoGloop Haha. 03:16 aggies http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1280&bih=691&tbm=isch&tbnid=82WjtBQ3QK4FSM:&imgrefurl=http://creeperblog.com/%3Fcat%3D3%26paged%3D5&docid=U3NoswgCv22NrM&imgurl=http://creeperblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/How-to-Build-a-Minecraft-Creeper.jpg&w=500&h=332&ei=ajC0UPnUD4HI9QSyx4GoCw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=2&sig=110153936471635374800&page=1&tbnh=144&tbnw=213&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:178&tx=130&ty=110 03:16 khonkhortisan creeperblog.com^ 03:16 kaeza aggies: nice 03:16 Muadtralk firrefox is Grrrrrrrrreat! though 03:17 jordan4ibanez How do i get keypresses on the latest version? 03:17 kaeza not better that opera 03:17 kaeza hey jordan 03:18 jordan4ibanez Hi JRADKADASDKAS 03:18 jordan4ibanez keraladzm 03:18 AGUAIDFIASFJ http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1280&bih=691&tbm=isch&tbnid=V1RJ0O_AYhySWM:&imgrefurl=http://creeperblog.com/%3Fp%3D6&docid=4IiboSKrTUUVxM&imgurl=http://creeperblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/creeper.jpg&w=580&h=435&ei=bDC0UNfrHYWs8ATpzICgCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=374&vpy=386&dur=13&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=126&ty=141&sig=110153936471635374800&page=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=185&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:0,i:211 03:18 OldCoder Right here 03:18 OldCoder What did Kacey want? 03:18 khonkhortisan already saw that by scrolling down 03:18 khonkhortisan don't need another link 03:18 OldCoder Kacey lets go of Neko and bicycle kicks him across the room 03:18 OldCoder That seems dramatic 03:18 OldCoder Blink and you miss the darndest things 03:19 aggies lol 03:19 khonkhortisan so that's what that kick is called 03:19 NekoGloop I dont even know what that was, but i'm the space core so it hurt his foot more. 03:19 kaeza aggies: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/memes/W2x4iH9450iId5W7MfuYvw2.jpg 03:19 OldCoder Yep 03:19 khonkhortisan what is a space core? 03:19 Aggies lol 03:19 NekoGloop Portal 2. 03:19 NekoGloop That is all. 03:20 Sssssppppaaaccee :3 03:20 kaeza Sssssppppaaaccee: lol 03:20 khonkhortisan You got the name right. Horray for tab completion! 03:21 kaeza "I'm in Sssssssssspace!" -- A Creeper 03:22 kaeza khonkhortisan: Do you know my friends? they are Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V 03:24 kaeza wb 03:24 mrtux Hi redcrap 03:24 mrtux *redcrab 03:24 mrtux whoops 03:24 mrtux sorry 03:24 * VanessaE pokes redcrab 03:24 khonkhortisan this goes along with the theme http://deathonabun.deviantart.com/art/Space-Core-Wallpaper-2-206279211 03:25 khonkhortisan My friend is Mouse Highlight and Middle "Mouse" Button 03:25 khonkhortisan No ctrl-c/v required 03:27 kaeza khonkhortisan: you use linux? 03:27 kaeza http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XUWx0NMsvaQ/TSfu3TRjs4I/AAAAAAAABKw/ZsHMOY2Vibg/s1600/minecraft.jpg 03:27 khonkhortisan yep 03:27 khonkhortisan and have a windows program on a flash drive to do the same thing 03:27 kaeza thought you used shitdows 03:27 kaeza sorry 03:27 khonkhortisan um, the recursion isn't done by scaling. 03:28 khonkhortisan that's impressive 03:28 khonkhortisan ha! The left wire is too high on the second monitor draw 03:29 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: I call that "lack of available detail" 03:29 NekoGloop Redpower microblocks could be helpful there. 03:30 kaeza oppa craft style: http://tpdm.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/minecraft-style-600x300.jpg 03:30 NekoGloop kaeza: No, listen to the song first. 03:30 NekoGloop "Digging minecraft style" 03:34 jordan4ibanez What am i doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Lq4cb355 03:35 kaeza http://www.minecrafthumor.com/images/2012/October/15/507c80861c371.jpg 03:35 jordan4ibanez I'm trying to wrap my head around the basics of this function 03:35 jordan4ibanez Taoki|away: How do i use the set_attachment function? 03:40 kaeza VanessaE: how do you make player textures 03:40 kaeza ? 03:40 VanessaE I don't :-) 03:40 VanessaE I download them 03:40 VanessaE they're just minecraft skins. 03:40 kaeza ok 03:41 kaeza I want to adapt this texture: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52970#p52970 03:42 VanessaE http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Skinzones.png 03:42 VanessaE this should help 03:42 kaeza thanks V :) 03:42 VanessaE scale the image up or down as needed to get to the resolution you're working with, then copy&paste the various pieces of your player image into the templace. 03:42 VanessaE template* 03:42 VanessaE the template can be any resolution in Minetest as long as the format is correct. 03:43 kaeza oh fuck http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/hd-x-gen-skin-gordon-freemanhalf-life-2/ 03:43 VanessaE lol 03:44 VanessaE well there ya go :-) 03:44 VanessaE want me to assign it to you? 03:44 kaeza should've guessed there should be already one. HL is a 14-years old game after all 03:44 kaeza what? 03:44 kaeza oh yes 03:46 VanessaE installed. 03:46 VanessaE (I kept the old one as a backup) 03:46 kaeza1 sorry 03:46 VanessaE it's okay 03:47 VanessaE I installed your new skin, and kept the old one in case you want to revert. 03:47 kaeza1 thanks :)) 03:47 jordan4ibanez Mualdtralk 03:48 VanessaE no, eppes? sign in already :-) 03:48 VanessaE nu* 03:49 jordan4ibanez Muadtalk 03:49 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jV9bB-Q7JU 03:49 jordan4ibanez muadtralk 03:50 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3877 03:50 NekoGloop -1 + -1 is -2.... 03:51 Muadtralk hmmmm 03:51 jordan4ibanez NO 03:51 Muadtralk i assume youve based this off carts? 03:51 jordan4ibanez Since -1 is not a real number it can be WHATEVER I WNAT 03:51 Muadtralk or at least have looked at it 03:51 jordan4ibanez Yes 03:53 VanessaE last I knew, -1 was, like all negative numbers, still part of the "real numbers" set (in mathematics) 03:54 Muadtralk its not a positive integer though so its not in that set 03:54 Muadtralk so replace "not a real number" with "not a positive integer" 03:55 VanessaE Muadtralk: "real numbers" include negatives. 03:55 jordan4ibanez Nope! 03:55 jordan4ibanez all negatives are imaginary 03:55 NekoGloop http://algebra.freehomeworkmathhelp.com/Numbers/sets_of_all_numbers_subsets.GIF 03:56 NekoGloop Negatives are integers. 03:56 jordan4ibanez NOPE 03:56 VanessaE jordan4ibanez, thousands of years of mathematics professors say you're wrong. 03:56 M13 hello 03:56 jordan4ibanez I have -1 apples 03:56 jordan4ibanez IT CANT BE REAL 03:56 Muadtralk yes 03:56 jordan4ibanez You can't work with - numbers in real lyfe 03:56 Muadtralk i was suggesting a possible correction to make it true 03:56 NekoGloop The set of integers contains the negative and positive numbers that have no fractional or decimal part. In other words, the integers consist of all negative and positive whole numbers including 0 03:57 jordan4ibanez muadtralk: wha? 03:57 M13 has KikaRz been here complaining about "her server" 03:57 * dzho hooks jordan4ibanez up to a -120 volt potential 03:57 khonkhortisan the apple is inside out? 03:57 jordan4ibanez I have -123121 atoms 03:57 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: you can quite easily work with them in real life: I have -1 apples --> I have lost one apple. 03:58 VanessaE Adding a negative number is equivalent to subtracting its positive. 03:58 jordan4ibanez NOPE, that would be 1 - 1 not -1 03:58 khonkhortisan You have -$50 in your wallet because both you and your friend remember your debt. 03:58 NekoGloop -1 + -1 = -2 03:58 khonkhortisan n + (-1) = n - (1) 03:59 bulletrulz no -1=-1=1 03:59 dzho anyway "imaginary" is reserved for a different concept 03:59 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: just because you can't work with negative numbers in real life does not mean they don't exist. 03:59 khonkhortisan a 90 degree rotation. 03:59 VanessaE "imaginary" numbers are any value multiplied by sqrt(-1) 03:59 jordan4ibanez -1 + 1 = 0 zero is an imaginary number too 03:59 bulletrulz VanessaE, can i join ur server? 03:59 jordan4ibanez negative numbers are just a concept, they aren't actually real 03:59 VanessaE bulletrulz: sure, got very recent 0.4.4 handy? 03:59 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: I have $0 03:59 khonkhortisan the number line simplifies things 04:00 NekoGloop I have -$100 04:00 bulletrulz not 4/3 04:00 khonkhortisan each number is equidistant from the next 04:00 jordan4ibanez Yes, but that means you have 0 dollars which physically is impossible 04:00 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: How? 04:00 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: of course it is possible - I have zero dollars. 04:00 NekoGloop I have no dollars. 04:00 bulletrulz do i need 4.4 VanessaE 04:00 jordan4ibanez You can't have 0 dollars, it's physically impossible 04:00 * khonkhortisan stretches out hand. Looks in hand. Sees no money. 04:00 dzho "dollars" don't need to be physical 04:00 NekoGloop (A tad literally) 04:00 VanessaE I have none, zippo, broke, busted, zip, zilch, and a whole lotta nada. 04:00 jordan4ibanez But you would need to have at least 1 dollar to have a number of physical dollars 04:00 VanessaE bulletrulz: it is ZERO POINT FOUR POINT FOUR. and yes it is required. 04:01 khonkhortisan if the concept of "dollar" is defined, you don't have any number other than zero of them. 04:01 khonkhortisan *is not defined 04:01 jordan4ibanez The concept of -1 is imaginary, it's not physical 04:01 bulletrulz VanessaE, where do i get it? 04:01 NekoGloop If T_A_N_K tries to math, we all die. 04:01 jordan4ibanez There's 0, and 1 04:01 khonkhortisan the car I'm looking at is -5 feet behind me. What's wrong with that? 04:01 VanessaE bulletrulz: you have to compile it from source code for now. 04:01 * dzho giggles at the thought of jordan4ibanez trying to grasp the difference between countably infinite and uncountably infinite 04:01 VanessaE bulletrulz: binaries have not been released yet. 04:01 jordan4ibanez Lol, i just wanted to see how long i could keep this going on for 04:01 bulletrulz ok 04:02 jordan4ibanez I know -1 is real XD 04:02 khonkhortisan but now we have countable and uncountable 04:02 VanessaE khonkhortisan: well to be pedantic, if it's -5 feet in front of you, it's (positive) 5 feet *behind* you :D 04:02 jordan4ibanez No math lessons, only butthurt 04:02 khonkhortisan yep, but that's the other direction than I said 04:02 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, is correcy 04:02 khonkhortisan and I wouldn't see it then 04:02 * khonkhortisan looks up "pedantic" 04:03 jordan4ibanez Physically, you can't be negative, but mentally you can 04:03 bulletrulz VanessaE, Can you give me the link to the source 04:03 jordan4ibanez ROBOTICALLY YOU CAN BE ANYTHING 04:03 khonkhortisan direction can easily be negative, just swap the origin and the point, but leave the axes the same 04:04 jordan4ibanez But then that becomes mental math 04:04 jordan4ibanez And you won't like mental math 04:04 jordan4ibanez Here, everyone learn from yahoo http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080225122726AAHJLct 04:05 VanessaE bulletrulz: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest and https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game 04:06 bulletrulz thank toy 04:06 VanessaE bulletrulz: follow the readme carefully 04:06 VanessaE I ain't no toy :-) 04:06 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, is right a negitive plus a negitive always EQAULS a postive 04:06 khonkhortisan "real" as differentiated from imaginary numbers only. 04:06 jordan4ibanez But a negative * positive always equals negative 04:06 NekoGloop bulletrulz: Nope. 04:06 jordan4ibanez WHAAAAAAAAAAAA 04:06 VanessaE bulletrulz: wrong. 04:07 NekoGloop Negative plus a negative is a negative. 04:07 khonkhortisan (-1) + (-2) = -3 04:07 bulletrulz ye 04:07 VanessaE add two negatives, the result is negative. Multiply them and the result is always positive. 04:07 khonkhortisan (-1) x (-2) = 2 04:07 NekoGloop Negative minus a positive is a negative 04:07 bulletrulz NEGITIVE PLUS A NEGITIVE = a posive 04:07 VanessaE bulletrulz: wrong. 04:07 bulletrulz dude this is 4th grade math! 04:07 bulletrulz no 04:07 bulletrulz its not 04:07 VanessaE bulletrulz: add two negatives, the result is negative. Multiply them and the result is always positive. 04:07 khonkhortisan how is that wrong? 04:07 khonkhortisan making a negative more negative keeps it negative 04:08 VanessaE bulletrulz: it is wrong. adding two negatives is the same as subtracting both from zero. 04:08 khonkhortisan (-1) - 2 = -3 04:08 VanessaE -1 + -1 = 0 - 1 - 1 = -2 04:08 jordan4ibanez 1+2+3 = 3+2+1 04:08 VanessaE bulletrulz: ask any math teacher. they will agree with me. 04:08 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, XD 04:08 VanessaE (and khonkhortisan and NekoGloop) 04:09 jordan4ibanez And don't even get me started on pi 04:09 NekoGloop -& + € = % 04:09 jordan4ibanez pi = 3 04:09 VanessaE 3.141592653 ...is as far as I can remember it :-) 04:09 NekoGloop pi = tasty 04:09 dzho euler's gamma, though: they don't even know if it's irrational or transcendental 04:09 jordan4ibanez pi = 3 * 1/1222233333344444 04:10 dzho 32 04:10 dzho d'oh 04:10 kaeza Sorry I'm late, but how can a circle be perfect if PI is irrational? 04:10 jordan4ibanez A circle is perfect, pi is just wrong 04:10 bulletrulz pi = 3.14 whats 3.14 upside down and flipped around :O 04:10 VanessaE kaeza: because pi is merely a ratio :-) 04:10 jordan4ibanez 41.3 04:11 bulletrulz oh 04:11 kaeza yes, but let's say a circle whose diameter is 1cm is ~3.1416 04:11 bulletrulz lol turn the 4 around 04:11 bulletrulz pie O: 04:11 bulletrulz 3.14 in a mirror is PIE! 04:11 bulletrulz :O 04:11 VanessaE kaeza: because we can't measure it precisely. 04:12 jordan4ibanez Lol, i think linux will never be successful 04:12 kaeza aaargh It's hard to explain my point 04:12 dzho because if it were successful, none dare call it linux 04:12 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, i think your wrong! 04:12 kaeza this^ 04:12 jordan4ibanez bulletrulz: egoraptor 04:12 dzho they'd call it something different, like, say . . . "Android" 04:12 bulletrulz when did jordan4ibanez turn in to a windows nazi 04:13 kaeza shitdows* 04:13 VanessaE kaeza: it would be ~3.1415927 cm in diameter, but only because we don't have any shorthand to give an exact figure except pi * diameter :-) 04:13 jordan4ibanez I have a successful version of linux, it's called pcbsd 04:13 VanessaE kaeza: so as a workaround, we just round it. 04:13 jordan4ibanez I think i've successfully gotten this irc butthurt to ∞ 04:14 VanessaE heh 04:14 kaeza yeah, but the problem is it's not the same (d * 3.1416) than (d * 3.1415927) etc etc 04:14 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, 2010-2011 cool guy T_A_N_K/jordan4ibanez 2012 windows nazi 04:14 VanessaE kaeza: right, which is why we just shorten ~3.1415... to "pi" 04:14 kaeza gone 04:14 VanessaE "pi" literally IS a number, and at present is what, a trillion digits long now? 04:15 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez is dead to me 04:15 kaeza maybe 04:15 VanessaE I forget how far out they've calculated it 04:16 kaeza but even if it had a trillion digits, it would still not be the same as one trillion and one digit 04:16 VanessaE far enough to measure the circumference of the galaxy with an error smaller than the Planck length or some such :-) 04:16 NekoGloop VanessaE: There's a program that is currently running on a website, calculating pi. 04:16 kaeza ok nevermind, I suck at math anyway 04:17 kaeza NekoGloop: how do they that? beats me 04:17 NekoGloop Minecraft gets piFPS on my computer. 04:17 kaeza NekoGloop: lol 04:17 NekoGloop kaeza: Easy.... 04:18 NekoGloop SOME EXCEPTION: Dont care. 04:18 OldCoder redcrab, hi 04:18 kaeza hey RC 04:18 bulletrulz VanessaE, check the messege 04:19 kaeza wat 04:19 kaeza NekoGloop: wat 04:19 bulletrulz CMake Error: CMake was unable to find a build program corresponding to "Unix Makefiles". CMAKE_MAKE_PROGRAM is not set. You probably need to select a different build tool. 04:19 bulletrulz CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. 04:19 bulletrulz Missing variable is: 04:19 bulletrulz CMAKE_C_COMPILER_ENV_VAR 04:19 bulletrulz CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. 04:19 bulletrulz Missing variable is: 04:19 bulletrulz CMAKE_C_COMPILER 04:19 bulletrulz CMake Error: Could not find cmake module file:/home/brandon/Desktop/minetest/CMakeFiles/CMakeCCompiler.cmake 04:19 VanessaE bulletrulz: don't paste!!!!! 04:19 bulletrulz CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. 04:19 bulletrulz Missing variable is: 04:19 bulletrulz CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER_ENV_VAR 04:19 bulletrulz CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. 04:19 bulletrulz Missing variable is: 04:19 bulletrulz CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER 04:19 bulletrulz CMake Error: Could not find cmake module file:/home/brandon/Desktop/minetest/CMakeFiles/CMakeCXXCompiler.cmake 04:19 bulletrulz CMake Error: CMAKE_C_COMPILER not set, after EnableLanguage 04:20 bulletrulz CMake Error: CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER not set, after EnableLanguage 04:20 bulletrulz -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! 04:20 VanessaE STOP STOP STOP STOP 04:20 VanessaE STOP STOP STOP STOP 04:20 VanessaE STOP STOP STOP STOP 04:20 bulletrulz ok 04:20 bulletrulz lol 04:20 bulletrulz xD not really a big deal 04:20 VanessaE do NOT paste in the channel! 04:20 bulletrulz ok 04:20 bulletrulz ok 04:20 VanessaE anyway, I can't help you with compiling on Windows 04:20 kaeza wowowow 04:20 kaeza stop it! 04:20 VanessaE except that you obviously need a compiler :-) 04:20 bulletrulz VanessaE, im using linux 04:20 VanessaE bulletrulz: you didn't follow the readme like I told you to. 04:20 bulletrulz i did 04:20 VanessaE otherwise you'd have a compiler now. 04:21 kaeza maybe CMake is not installed correctly? 04:21 VanessaE bulletrulz: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L78 04:21 bulletrulz VanessaE, i have it 04:21 kaeza did you install from the package manager? 04:21 VanessaE bulletrulz: please notice the apt-get install line. 04:21 bulletrulz there must be some dipendisie isshues 04:21 VanessaE (line 82, make sure you can see the whole thing) 04:22 VanessaE sudo apt-get install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev 04:22 VanessaE run that, then try again. 04:23 bulletrulz VanessaE, ty 04:24 bulletrulz VanessaE, you have 3d players installed right? 04:25 bulletrulz my internet is being a douch 04:25 bulletrulz 65 kb???!! 04:25 bulletrulz its ussualy 400kb 04:25 bulletrulz maybe its apt-get 04:26 VanessaE 0.4.4 is 3d yes. 04:26 bulletrulz VanessaE, wait 3d is included by defualt? 04:26 Muadtralk yep! 04:26 VanessaE yes 04:26 VanessaE in 0.4.4 and up. 04:26 bulletrulz :D 04:26 bulletrulz tat 04:26 bulletrulz yay 04:26 bulletrulz ! 04:26 bulletrulz can we change skin? 04:27 Muadtralk and model 04:27 bulletrulz for diffrent players? 04:27 VanessaE yes, with the player_textures mod for now 04:27 bulletrulz ::DDDDDD 04:27 Muadtralk should someone ever make a different model that is 04:27 bulletrulz yay 04:27 VanessaE I have that installed, so if you manage to get 0.4.4 compiled, give me a skin to use and I'll plug it in for you. 04:27 bulletrulz what skins will work> 04:27 bulletrulz minecraft skins? 04:27 Muadtralk yep 04:28 bulletrulz minecraft skins will work VanessaE 04:28 kaeza V: I don't seem to be able to connect 04:28 Muadtralk also my server supports different player textures 04:28 Muadtralk so if your ever on zenoheld 04:28 kaeza maybe it's that bloated ambience mod 04:28 Muadtralk ring me up! 04:28 kaeza Muadtralk: IP? 04:28 Muadtralk minecraft skins work 04:29 VanessaE kaeza: the server is up? 04:29 Muadtralk minetest.sytes.net:30000 for survival 30001 for semi creative 04:29 * bulletrulz is doing the happy dance 04:29 kaeza I get to "Downloading media" so i think yes it's up 04:29 bulletrulz now we need to be able to see what players have in there hand 04:29 OldCoder There is a script to check this 04:29 VanessaE kaeza: wait it out, remember RBA's technic and ambiance are in, so they're huge 04:30 VanessaE plus remember the crappy network code and your internet :-) 04:30 OldCoder Both are up 04:30 kaeza yup :( 04:30 kaeza :okay: 04:30 VanessaE bulletrulz: "their", and that'll come soon enough. 04:30 OldCoder I should add that script to a page 04:31 kaeza and on that topic, maybe make the head turn up/down 04:31 kaeza just tossing ideas 04:31 bulletrulz building! 04:31 kaeza not that i'm complaining or anything 04:31 bulletrulz 18% 04:31 bulletrulz 19 ll 04:31 bulletrulz CANT WAIT! 04:32 kaeza Minetest binaries version 0.4.4 for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/minetest-0.4.4.tar.bz2 04:32 * sokomine pushes some mods in redcrabs direction and hopes he doesn't notice :-) 04:33 * bulletrulz SAYS Hey sokomine i saw that 04:33 kaeza does not include minetest_game 04:33 bulletrulz 32% ::D:DDDD:D:D:D: 04:34 bulletrulz kaeza, wtf man 04:34 bulletrulz im building mine right now 04:34 bulletrulz lol 04:34 bulletrulz i could of jusst downloaded that XXXDDD 04:34 bulletrulz might as well let it make 04:35 bulletrulz i got docky to work in lubuntu 04:35 bulletrulz S: 04:35 kaeza I was uploading when you said you built it :) 04:35 bulletrulz kaeza, YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!LOL 04:36 bulletrulz 45% :D 04:36 kaeza yes I am >:) 04:36 bulletrulz lol you either a dog or you just called your mom a bitch !XD 04:37 kaeza a bit of both 04:37 bulletrulz xDDDD 04:38 bulletrulz kaeza, your a cool guy what os u got? 04:38 mrtux night 04:38 kaeza http://www.troll.me/images2/grammar-correction-guy/-youre.jpg 04:38 bulletrulz lol 04:39 bulletrulz 61% 04:39 kaeza Ihave DOS 5.0 04:39 kaeza #YOLO 04:39 kaeza J/K 04:40 bulletrulz lol 04:40 kaeza guess what? Ubuntu 12.04!! OMG!! That's unexpected!! 04:40 bulletrulz apple or microsoft dos XD 04:40 bulletrulz kaeza, so ubuntu 04:40 kaeza yep 04:41 bulletrulz i got lubuntu 12.10 04:41 bulletrulz with docky xD 04:42 bulletrulz i think ill stick with it too 04:42 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-11-27%2002%3A38%3A31.png 04:45 kaeza back 04:45 kaeza sorry 04:45 VanessaE wb 04:45 VanessaE what's with the screenshot? 04:45 bulletrulz lol 04:45 kaeza just showing off 04:45 bulletrulz VanessaE, almost dont builfinh 04:45 bulletrulz 99 04:46 kaeza btw it seems Muadtralk is gone 04:46 bulletrulz 99% 04:46 bulletrulz 100% 04:46 bulletrulz hes dead jim 04:46 VanessaE eh? 04:46 NekoGloop Um... 04:46 NekoGloop He left about 15 mins ago. 04:46 kaeza he posted a link to a server but the server is still 0.4.3 04:47 kaeza nvm 04:47 bulletrulz VanessaE, 04:47 bulletrulz can i have the server ip? 04:48 VanessaE did you find a player skin you want me to use? 04:48 bulletrulz oh i can use minecraft ones right? 04:48 VanessaE yes 04:48 VanessaE give me the address of the skin and I will install it for you 04:49 bulletrulz pl 04:49 bulletrulz ok 04:49 bulletrulz VanessaE, http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/152857/slenderman/ 04:50 VanessaE Ok. You will use the name "bulletrulz" as you spelled it here? 04:50 bulletrulz yes 04:51 kaeza bulletrulz: nice skin 04:51 VanessaE ok. The skin is installed. Server is at 24.181.193.82 port 30000 04:51 VanessaE please note that the server is very laggy for reasons that are as yet out of my control. 04:52 VanessaE wait.. 04:52 VanessaE gotta fix something. 04:52 bulletrulz noo ok 04:54 bulletrulz done? 04:54 VanessaE not yet. 04:54 VanessaE don't connect,. 04:54 VanessaE I ain't done 04:54 VanessaE ok, now it's ready. 04:55 bulletrulz 0% media!!! 04:55 VanessaE heh, looks like the anonymous guy :-) 04:56 VanessaE it'll take a long time for the media to come in. like 5-10 minutes. 04:56 VanessaE give it time. 04:56 bulletrulz VanessaE, slender man is a thing from something awful forums 04:56 VanessaE this will improve in the near future. 04:56 bulletrulz ender man is based of of this 04:56 bulletrulz ok ill go take a shower 04:56 bulletrulz be back and it should be done 04:56 VanessaE ok 04:59 khonkhortisan haha so I google "how to create a multiplayer game in c++", get to stackoverflow which recommends raknet, who has a featured customer minecraft pocket edition, a variation of the game this game "copies". I can't get away! 04:59 VanessaE heh 04:59 VanessaE sounds like we need a 6 degrees of minetest website now ;-) 04:59 VanessaE (or -minecraft) 05:02 kaeza been playing a bit with the port to C++ of minetestmapper. It's full of awesomeness! 05:02 VanessaE cool :-) 05:02 VanessaE So you're saying it's Awesomesauce™? 05:03 kaeza yup :) 05:03 VanessaE (Awesomesauce and the Awesomesauce logo are TM and © 2012 by Mark Traceur) 05:03 VanessaE ;) 05:04 * kaeza is waiting in court before MarkTraceur sues him 05:04 VanessaE hahaha 05:04 kaeza :) 05:04 kaeza hey Aqua 05:04 marktraceur kaeza: It's OK, I released the rights to the C++ port because I'm happy to have it represent the Awesomesauce brand. 05:04 kaeza lol 05:05 VanessaE bahahahahaa 05:05 kaeza posting pic in 3...2...1... 05:05 VanessaE and of course he shows up :D 05:05 Aqua hi 05:05 VanessaE hey marki 05:05 VanessaE mark* 05:05 marktraceur VanessaE: I got highlighted! 05:06 VanessaE I blame kaeza :D 05:06 kaeza lolol 05:09 kaeza marktraceur: now that you mention it, I never had the honor to see you around here 05:09 marktraceur VanessaE: No, it was you! 05:09 marktraceur kaeza: Pleased to meet you ): 05:09 marktraceur :)* 05:09 kaeza same here :) 05:09 VanessaE I plead the 5th, your honor. :D 05:11 VanessaE gotta run. Have fun on the server. 05:11 kaeza still 0% media 05:11 kaeza :( 05:11 kaeza ok 05:11 kaeza later then ;) 05:11 VanessaE marktraceur: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 -- using the very latest 0.4.4, if you have the patience to deal with the lag :-) 05:12 marktraceur VanessaE: Meh, I'm happy with stable versions for now 05:12 VanessaE kaeza, bulletrulz you know what, that ambience mod adds too much. It's gotta go. 05:12 kaeza I agree 05:13 VanessaE mod deleted, server restarted. 05:13 jordan4ibanez Comiceos6 05:13 jordan4ibanez Most polished linux distro I've ever used 05:13 kaeza V: going in 05:14 VanessaE marktraceur: 3d models? :-) 05:14 kaeza jordan4ibanes: cool 05:14 kaeza ibanez* 05:15 Aqua ibanez is a brand of guitar/bass : 05:15 Aqua ):) 05:15 Aqua :) 05:15 jordan4ibanez Like I'm not kidding, this feels more polished than windows 7 holy shit 05:16 marktraceur kaeza: Use tab completion! 05:16 marktraceur kaeza: Type (e.g.) V to get VanessaE. 05:16 kaeza oh 05:17 VanessaE marktraceur: anyway, 0.4.4 seems stable enough and it now has 3d player models by default. It IS pure Awesomesauce™ :-) 05:20 VanessaE and, I'm off to bed. 05:20 VanessaE night all. 05:20 kaeza night V 05:23 kaeza bulletrulz: you still here 05:23 kaeza ? 05:28 Aqua herro 05:34 bulletrulz back 05:36 bulletrulz lol 05:36 bulletrulz anyone on vs server 05:36 bulletrulz ? 05:36 kaeza bulletrulz: is the server ok? 05:37 kaeza I can see you 05:37 bulletrulz yay am i slenderman? 05:41 bulletrulz VanessaE, 05:41 bulletrulz how do i get privs????!!!!! 05:41 bulletrulz nooooo 05:42 kaeza shhhh 05:42 kaeza she's sleeping 05:42 kaeza :) 05:42 bulletrulz lol WAKE UP VanessaE 05:43 bulletrulz somebody help lol 05:43 khonkhortisan "and it now has 3d player models by default." Never thought I'd hear it. 05:48 bulletrulz any admins for vs server online? 05:50 kaeza bulletrulz: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1080481738.png 06:00 Aqua herro 06:02 OldCoder Back 06:02 Aqua amazing 3d !!!!! 06:02 OldCoder bulletrulz, Hi 06:03 Aqua hey oldcoader is port fowarding dangerous? 06:03 Aqua cos i wanna start a server on windows 06:04 bulletrulz OldCoder, do u have prics on vs server> 06:05 Aqua oc??? 06:05 kaeza wb coder 06:06 bulletrulz OldCoder, D: 06:07 OldCoder bulletrulz, hi. What's the question? 06:07 OldCoder Aqua, indicate what you mean. Are you asking me to forward to you? 06:08 Aqua port foward to make a server 06:08 bulletrulz OldCoder, i need help on VanessaE server i dont have privs can u give me some 06:14 OldCoder I don't have admin there bulletrulz 06:14 OldCoder It isn't one of mine 06:14 OldCoder Aqua, Explain 06:14 Aqua 1. Start the server on a port (set in minetest.conf as port = ####) 2. Find the internal LAN IP of the computer the you are running the server on (example: 192.168.1.100) 3. Use port forwarding from the router to forward port #### to the internal LAN IP 3.a If any firewalls are present, they must allow the port to pass traffic as well. 4. Let your friends know what your internet IP is (you can find this by looking at your router's s 06:14 Aqua is there another way? 06:16 Aqua ? 06:16 Aqua kaeza 06:16 Aqua khonk 06:16 kaeza what? 06:16 OldCoder Reading 06:16 OldCoder Ah 06:16 Aqua http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1037 06:16 OldCoder You mean port forwarding at that level 06:16 OldCoder R 06:16 OldCoder Reviewing 06:16 Aqua yeh 06:16 OldCoder One minute 06:17 OldCoder For a single UDP port at 30000 should be perfectly safe 06:17 OldCoder except for 06:17 OldCoder any risks inherent in the software itself 06:17 OldCoder There is no other way that I am aware of 06:17 bulletrulz opera is a good browser 06:17 OldCoder It is O.K. yes 06:18 OldCoder Aqua, you must forward because otherwise how will packets get to the software? 06:18 Aqua what bout this way? 06:18 Aqua Open command prompt by going in the Minetest installation folder, then in the "bin" folder, hold Shift, do a right click on a empty file (not on minetest.exe), click "Open command window here". Type this, without quotes: "minetest.exe --server". If you get the error "Multiple worlds are available.", use "minetest.exe --server --worldname world_name" instead, where world_name is the name of the world. If your serv 06:19 OldCoder Aqua, that is too long 06:19 bulletrulz i like qupzilla though 06:19 OldCoder It cannot be read here 06:19 OldCoder Aqua, paste it to a paste site as I did not receive it 06:19 OldCoder bulletrulz, one moment 06:20 Aqua http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server 06:20 OldCoder bulletrulz, Thank you. Never tried that one. I'll need to build it. 06:20 Aqua or is this outdated? 06:20 bulletrulz OldCoder, its got packages 06:20 bulletrulz debian 06:20 bulletrulz fedora 06:20 OldCoder Aqua, that part has nothing to do with forwarding 06:20 OldCoder bulletrulz, I build all my software 06:20 bulletrulz why lol 06:20 OldCoder I do not use packages except when essential 06:20 OldCoder Because I run my own Linux distro 06:20 OldCoder There is no other way 06:21 bulletrulz oh 06:21 Aqua i have windows 06:21 OldCoder Aqua, You must forward ports if you have a router 06:21 bulletrulz Aqua, switch to liux 06:21 OldCoder bulletrulz, Wait 06:21 OldCoder bulletrulz, one issue at a time 06:21 bulletrulz linux is better Aq 06:21 OldCoder Aqua, what is the current question or issue? 06:21 khonkhortisan khonk semi-present 06:21 OldCoder khonkhortisan, hi 06:21 Aqua khonk is gameboom down? 06:21 Aqua forever? 06:22 Aqua how to make a server on windows. 06:22 khonkhortisan haven't played recently 06:22 khonkhortisan been to redcrab more recently than gameboom 06:22 bulletrulz i used to be a mod on redcrab 06:22 Aqua gameboom has been shut down :) 06:23 Aqua u used to be a mod? 06:23 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:23 OldCoder Aqua, they have lost the world before 06:23 OldCoder Aqua, Only about 20 of them :-) 06:23 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 06:23 OldCoder ^ See list and screenshots 06:23 OldCoder Oh 06:24 OldCoder I misunderstood 06:24 OldCoder Aqua, what is your question? 06:24 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:24 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:24 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:24 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:24 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:24 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:24 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:24 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:24 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:24 Aqua oc how do u host a serevr? 06:24 OldCoder Aqua, do not flood 06:24 Aqua spam? 06:24 OldCoder No 06:24 OldCoder That is flood not spam 06:24 OldCoder Aqua, I see the question 06:24 Aqua whats the difefernce? 06:24 OldCoder Flood is too long 06:24 Aqua whats the difefernce? 06:24 OldCoder Spam is several other things 06:24 Aqua whats the difefernce? 06:25 Aqua whats the difefernce? 06:25 OldCoder Aqua, I will kick you 06:25 Aqua ok 06:25 OldCoder It is late and I am tired 06:25 Aqua ill stop 06:25 OldCoder Show some courtesy and I will answer your questions 06:25 * marktraceur is 100% in favor of kicking 06:25 OldCoder Now... 06:25 OldCoder Aqua, can you explain your question? 06:25 OldCoder What do you mean? 06:25 OldCoder About host a server? 06:26 OldCoder Be patient and try to explain 06:26 Aqua i wanna start a server and im stuck in port fowarding i think i kinow how but i just wanted to ask is it dangerous to the laptop or watever? 06:26 OldCoder No 06:26 OldCoder Not for this 06:26 OldCoder It is just one port at UDP 30000 06:26 OldCoder Risk is not large 06:27 Aqua ive heard that there could be viruses or something? 06:28 OldCoder Aqua, You run the same risk with or without port forwarding 06:28 OldCoder It is not the issue 06:28 OldCoder Port forwarding will not give the system cancer 06:28 OldCoder Not for one port at UDP 30000 06:28 OldCoder For Windows there are risks with everything 06:29 OldCoder You should consider a switch to Linux someday 06:29 marktraceur Aqua: Even better, switch to GNU/Linux: Security *and* functionality! 06:29 OldCoder As I said :p 06:29 * marktraceur enjoys ribbing the people in this channel about terminology sometimes :) 06:29 OldCoder Though your explanation marktraceur is better 06:29 OldCoder Fair nuff 06:31 Aqua yep vanessaE told me to switch to kubuntu but will it run on a 5 or 6 yr old windows xp with terrible processor(centrino duo) 06:32 kaeza Aqua: You should try PuppyLinux http://puppylinux.org/ 06:32 VanessaE actually I said Xubuntu, but Kubuntu is okay. 06:32 VanessaE also, hi. 06:32 VanessaE so much for sleep, got too hungry 06:32 Aqua who said kubuntu? 06:32 VanessaE I see bullet made it into the server. 06:32 kaeza hey V! 06:32 VanessaE [11-27 01:31] yep vanessaE told me to switch to kubuntu [...] 06:32 VanessaE you did :) 06:33 kaeza thought you were sleeping 06:33 VanessaE kaeza: I was trying to. Got too hungry to sleep. 06:33 OldCoder She may have drifted off for a bit 06:33 Aqua i forgot who it was....... 06:33 kaeza can you give bullet interact privs? 06:33 VanessaE got a protein shake/smoothie on hand now. 06:33 OldCoder VanessaE, I can visit your world now if you like 06:33 kaeza you always thinking about food... 06:33 OldCoder kaeza, food is good 06:33 VanessaE Aqua: don't remember, but I seem to recall Linus Torvalds likes KDE anyway 06:33 VanessaE OldCoder: please do :-) 06:34 Aqua mark is ur server up? 06:34 VanessaE ah I forgot to give bulletrulz interact. shit. 06:34 Aqua really looking for new server 06:34 kaeza YOU SUCK :) 06:35 kaeza lol 06:35 VanessaE :P 06:35 OldCoder VanessaE, location again? 06:35 OldCoder ty 06:35 VanessaE Aqua: try mine :-) 06:35 VanessaE OldCoder: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 06:35 kaeza I was in it until a few minutes ago 06:36 marktraceur Aqua: I'd suggest using Trisquel GNU/Linux, it works fairly well on most machines that I've tried. 06:36 kaeza NO MORE LAG!! YAY!! 06:36 khonkhortisan VanessaE, what brand? 06:36 VanessaE bullet has interact now when he shows up. 06:36 Aqua but i dont have 0.4.4 06:36 VanessaE khonkhortisan: er, Body Fortress I think, PB and Chocolate. 06:36 kaeza it seems he's gone 06:36 VanessaE Aqua: get it. :-) 06:36 kaeza R.I.P 06:36 VanessaE kaeza: I know. 06:36 Aqua mark is ur server up? 06:36 khonkhortisan don't know that one 06:36 marktraceur Aqua: Are you asking me? 06:36 VanessaE kaeza: I disabled interact by default to prevent griefing 06:37 Aqua i dont have linux? 06:37 Aqua yes 06:37 khonkhortisan is it safe to update minetest git? 06:37 VanessaE Aqua: build it from sources? ;) 06:37 Aqua can i get 0.4.4 on windosws? 06:37 OldCoder VanessaE, visiting 06:37 marktraceur Aqua: Use tab-completion to avoid ambiguity. Type mark to get my name. 06:37 OldCoder VanessaE, is it 0.4.3 or 0.4.4 ? 06:37 marktraceur Aqua: Besides, I don't know what server you mean....I've run multiple ones. 06:37 VanessaE ooooo 06:37 kaeza Aqua: you use linux right? 06:37 kaeza nope 06:37 VanessaE hats have been pushed to git master! 06:37 Aqua mark: in ur server up 06:38 VanessaE server going down for upgrade! 06:38 khonkhortisan khon = khonkhortisan 06:38 kaeza HATS! We are Valve now! 06:38 Aqua vaneesa can u make it 0.4.3? 06:38 marktraceur Aqua: Which server? 06:38 khonkhortisan hats? I'm so far behind 06:38 Aqua i only see one in ur topics 06:39 Aqua http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=505 06:39 marktraceur Aqua: marktraceur.info? 06:39 VanessaE Aqua: no. this is 0.4.4 and up only. 06:39 Aqua yeh 06:39 marktraceur Aqua: That one is not up, no. 06:39 OldCoder VanessaE, I don't have 0.4.4 yet; will need to wait 06:39 Aqua what other do u have thats up? 06:39 VanessaE OldCoder: s'ok, just tell me when you're ready. 06:39 kaeza OldCoder: what OS do you use? 06:39 marktraceur Aqua: I actually shouldn't say, the server hasn't officially launched yet. 06:39 Aqua :( i really need a server 06:40 Aqua so bored playing on nubelites server no one on 06:40 Aqua how can i get 0.4.4 on windows? 06:40 VanessaE Aqua: bug the usual windows build guys or build it yourself :-) 06:41 Aqua do i have to download it first? 06:41 VanessaE OldCoder, kaeza, whoever else: server is up. 06:42 kaeza k 06:42 kaeza going in 06:42 kaeza you did not put ambiance back right? 06:42 kaeza ambience* 06:42 VanessaE I killed ambience. 06:43 kaeza +10000000 06:43 VanessaE it's history 06:43 VanessaE I don't like it for server use, but it's nice for singleplayer 06:43 * kaeza hands VanessaE a gift card for 10000 Internetz 06:44 VanessaE in order to see hats on players you will also need to update your client btw. 06:45 Aqua where can i get 0.4.4? 06:45 VanessaE (I don't see your glasses) 06:45 VanessaE Aqua: source code, from the usual git repositories. 06:54 VanessaE well I guess the hats code is NOT in yet. 06:54 VanessaE just re-checked the commit log, I must have misunderstood. Oh well 06:55 VanessaE or wait... 06:55 VanessaE oh I know why. 06:56 VanessaE ok, let's try it now. 06:56 VanessaE kaeza: any time you're ready 06:56 kaeza you upgraded? 06:57 kaeza diving in 06:57 VanessaE I forgot to copy the new minetest_game over into my game folder. 06:57 VanessaE much better. 06:57 VanessaE you have glasses now :D 06:57 kaeza oh 06:57 kaeza do I look like Freeman? 06:57 VanessaE yup 06:58 VanessaE you did before, just didn't have the "hat" (glasses) on. 06:58 kaeza can you post a pic? 06:58 kaeza "hat" glasses.... sounds silly 06:58 kaeza :) 06:59 kaeza BTW was the lag problem something in the code? 06:59 VanessaE well that' 06:59 VanessaE that's how they're implemented. 06:59 VanessaE I dunno, I didn't change anything in the code. I just ditched that ambiance mod is all. 06:59 kaeza k 06:59 VanessaE stand by 06:59 VanessaE take a screenie of me also 06:59 kaeza k 07:01 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1084979642.png 07:01 VanessaE there's you 07:01 kaeza here is yours : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1084756596.jpg 07:02 kaeza cool 07:02 VanessaE well from the front would be nice :-) 07:02 VanessaE stop looking at my ass :D 07:02 VanessaE wait 07:02 VanessaE what are you doing? 07:03 VanessaE you keep circling me 07:03 kaeza no u 07:03 kaeza here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1084890248.jpg 07:03 VanessaE I keep turning to face you :D 07:04 VanessaE that's my back side :-) 07:04 VanessaE but I see the ribbon in my hair, so that works :-) 07:05 kaeza so the other one is the front side 07:05 VanessaE I'm standing facing you now. 07:05 VanessaE why is my face covered in black? 07:06 kaeza there is your front: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1085046798.jpg 07:06 kaeza dunno 07:06 VanessaE wtf? 07:06 VanessaE that can't be right. 07:06 kaeza I was gonna ask you the same 07:06 * VanessaE checks the skin file... 07:06 khonkhortisan look for transparency? 07:07 kaeza maybe you forgot the alpha channel? 07:07 VanessaE hm, skin file looks okay 07:08 VanessaE must be a bug. 07:08 kaeza hmm 07:08 kaeza may i take a look at the skin? 07:09 VanessaE hold a sec. 07:09 VanessaE Oh, I know 07:09 VanessaE you need to update your client. 07:09 VanessaE it looks fine from my testuser client. 07:09 VanessaE (which is up-to-date) 07:09 kaeza ok 07:10 kaeza the testuser also looks black from my client 07:10 VanessaE yeah, better update. 07:10 kaeza gonna rebuild 07:10 VanessaE I remember taoki said clients would have to be updated to avoid weird transparency bugs 07:10 VanessaE or something to that effect. 07:12 kaeza do I need the latest minetest_game too? 07:14 kaeza k 07:14 kaeza building 07:14 VanessaE yes 07:14 VanessaE well, I think so 07:14 VanessaE may as well have it on hand anyway 07:15 khonkhortisan I see my flowing water mod is obsolete 07:15 VanessaE yup 07:15 khonkhortisan that's what I wanted 07:15 VanessaE but the engine or game or whatever still needs tweaked 07:16 OldCoder VanessaE, I don't have 0.4.4 yet 07:16 VanessaE some angles and directions of flowing water look like they flow uphill 07:16 VanessaE OldCoder: grab the very latest git (engine and minetest_game) 07:16 VanessaE no excuses :D 07:18 VanessaE hey thomas 07:18 khonkhortisan wow, that's odd. I'm using the programmer dvorak layout (which makes the 4 key be a } and a 3 when shifted). I'm typing in the address to the minetest server, and press right shift+3 and minetest starts connecting 07:19 VanessaE khonkhortisan: hah! you just joined as I was restarting the server 07:19 VanessaE you may want to sign off/on again :-) 07:20 khonkhortisan Client disconnected, instead of the server this time 07:21 thomas hiya VanessaE :) 07:21 * VanessaE watches khonkhortisan walk in mid-air :D 07:21 khonkhortisan black screen of death 07:21 khonkhortisan there's the nodes loading 07:22 khonkhortisan and the talking segfault. 07:22 VanessaE haha 07:22 * kaeza1 wants to kill the modem 07:22 * khonkhortisan already did that, it won't save changes to settings 07:22 VanessaE kaeza1: got the latest git? you may sign on at your leisure now 07:23 kaeza1 yep. just finished building 07:23 VanessaE excellent. 07:24 kaeza almost in 07:24 kaeza some angles and directions of flowing water look like they flow uphill 07:25 kaeza This is true 07:26 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1086437274.png 07:26 VanessaE khonkhortisan, that's you on the right, kaeza on left. 07:27 kaeza core dumped 07:27 VanessaE f10? 07:27 kaeza nope 07:27 kaeza just because 07:27 khonkhortisan do the hands match the skins? 07:27 VanessaE well sometimes I get random crashes, have for a long while now 07:27 kaeza going in again 07:27 VanessaE khonkhortisan: in the default texture pack? not really I guess 07:28 khonkhortisan A well-balanced game includes both constructive and destructive games 07:28 khonkhortisan *well-balanced day 07:28 khonkhortisan people should be drawn with blind eyeballs while they're connecting 07:29 kaeza Next: Grand Theft Auto 0.4.5: Minetest City 07:30 VanessaE lol 07:33 kaeza VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1086261412.jpg 07:33 celeron55 lol 07:33 kaeza khonkhortisan: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1086268048.jpg 07:33 VanessaE that's what I should look like :-) 07:33 kaeza hey celeron 07:33 khonkhortisan oops 07:33 VanessaE hey c55. 07:34 kaeza one more VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1086609987.jpg 07:34 VanessaE khonkhortisan: another crash? 07:35 khonkhortisan if I press enter to talk 07:35 VanessaE oh that 07:35 kaeza I normally use 'T' to talk 07:35 kaeza I don't use F10 07:36 khonkhortisan T say something enter vs. T say something click proceed 07:36 VanessaE I usually hit t, type my text, then hit enter. 07:36 kaeza this^ 07:37 khonkhortisan and the user/pass/address/port boxes have a white background 07:37 khonkhortisan instead of the normal gray 07:37 VanessaE buggy irrlicht? 07:37 khonkhortisan something in the way I compiled 07:37 khonkhortisan yeah 07:37 kaeza a problem with gfx driver perhaps? 07:37 kaeza nvm 07:38 khonkhortisan are carts default minetest_game? 07:38 kaeza nope 07:38 VanessaE no 07:38 VanessaE tthey're still experimental yet 07:38 kaeza yeah by experimental read "buggy" 07:39 khonkhortisan can't go down this hill, it's scared of an itty-bitty bridge 07:39 kaeza (hmm... that means a cart is a buggy?) 07:39 kaeza VanessaE: have you tweaked the speed of carts? 07:39 VanessaE no 07:39 celeron55 VanessaE: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/congestion_setting 07:39 khonkhortisan I just did a u-turn at a t-intersection 07:40 VanessaE celeron55: perfect! 07:40 VanessaE well the interface to it anyway :-) 07:40 khonkhortisan maybe it stops there because it goes down two nodes instead of one 07:40 celeron55 it's not perfect 07:40 celeron55 but that will help you a bit 07:40 kaeza celeron55: +1000 07:41 kaeza if that works :) 07:41 celeron55 if you raise congestion_control_aim_rtt or congestion_control_max_rate, it may kill the RTT of users that otherwise might have good RTT at the basic settings 07:41 VanessaE +#congestion_control_aim_rtt = 0.2 <-- a measure of seconds? 07:41 celeron55 anyway, try setting congestion_control_aim_rtt = 0.5 or so 07:42 celeron55 and setting congestion_control_max_rate to much higher may be fun too, but might cause problems 07:42 VanessaE right. 07:42 celeron55 (that is in packets/s) 07:42 khonkhortisan there should be a car system based on railroads where there are stop signs/traffic lights and you will go straight through the intersection unless you hit the switch, and the switch only affects your car, not the next one. Or switch into a turn lane and play a game of openttd/simutrans in minetest 07:42 celeron55 actually 07:42 VanessaE I shall experiment with these tomorrow when I have a clear-enough head (pretty tired now) 07:42 kaeza khonkhortisan: O.O 07:42 celeron55 you might want to just raise congestion_control_min_rate to 50 or so 07:42 celeron55 with those parameters, there are no perfect settings 07:43 celeron55 only settings worse in some way or another 07:43 celeron55 s/worse/bad/ 07:43 VanessaE right, but sometimes finding a good compromize is the best thing in lieu of some better method. 07:43 VanessaE compromise* 07:43 khonkhortisan If I approach a T-intersection from the top part of the letter T, with the switch facing towards me, I U-turn 07:44 celeron55 the thing i'd first try is just raising congestion_control_aim_rtt much higher, and hope that it doesn't cog up the tubes to those who can get much smaller RTT 07:44 VanessaE khonkhortisan: yeah, those switches are sorta unpredictable, and the carts don't follow the visibly-drawn turn in the junction 07:44 VanessaE celeron55: gotchya. 07:44 khonkhortisan all it would take is to switch the visual, or draw all possibilities and be ambiguous 07:45 khonkhortisan stand in the cart when you start it for a random start direction 07:45 celeron55 also, the size of a packet is around 500 bytes, so 400 is 200kB/s 07:45 celeron55 (or, well, the maximum size) 07:46 khonkhortisan these would be great for art servers having amusement park rides where they go in scary caves 07:48 khonkhortisan nice, deceleration on stopping. 07:48 khonkhortisan now we need to tie switches to mesecons and do railroad logic :) 07:49 VanessaE and figure out why the cart is, as you put it, afraid of a little bridge :-) 07:50 khonkhortisan just put a baby on one of these, and have it climb a really long hill, and it'll rock the baby to sleep 07:50 VanessaE hehe 07:54 VanessaE celeron55: thanks for adding those settings. I appreciate it. 08:02 kaeza you are using latest git VanessaE 08:02 kaeza ? 08:03 VanessaE yup 08:03 khonkhortisan I am, on her server 08:03 kaeza It runs WAY better than before :) 08:03 VanessaE well latest up to just before c55 added those congestion management controls. 08:03 kaeza at most 2 sec lag 08:03 kaeza which is normal (at least for me) 08:04 VanessaE cool, I didn't do anything but update :-) 08:05 VanessaE well the server's 24/7 now, or at least as long as my computer remains powered and connected :-) 08:05 kaeza BTW nice toilet :) 08:05 kaeza just for when you are in a hurry 08:08 VanessaE heh 08:09 VanessaE ok, bedtime ...try #2 08:09 VanessaE night all. 08:11 OldCoder VanessaE, Does it support LevelDB? 08:11 OldCoder That is not an excuse 08:11 OldCoder Sort of mandatory for me 09:33 thexyz commit 4e249fb3fbf75f0359758760d88e22aa5b14533c 09:33 thexyz Author: Perttu Ahola 09:33 thexyz Date: Sat Nov 27 01:02:21 2010 +0200 09:33 thexyz Initial files 09:33 thexyz happy birthday, minetest 09:34 OldCoder Strike up the band! 09:34 OldCoder thexyz, Hi. I have nearly caught up with things. May I find you here sometime this week? 09:34 OldCoder What are good times? 09:34 OldCoder I have merged some upstream patches with your code BTW 09:34 OldCoder I have a pretty good copy of 0.4.3 09:45 celeron55 thexyz: well, more like happy version control day 09:45 celeron55 it did exist for a couple of weeks before that 09:46 thexyz that means we can celebrate several times 09:55 ruskie so basically november would be minetest month ;) 09:56 celeron55 i started minetest in october 09:56 ruskie so more than a couple of weeks then 09:56 celeron55 hmm... apparently 10:07 OldCoder ack 10:07 OldCoder back I mean 10:07 OldCoder thexyz, could we meet later in the week? If convenient for you? 10:08 OldCoder celeron55, I raised those settings already but have not built new clients yet; just servers 10:08 OldCoder celeron55, BTW This is fun: PilzAdam unique avatars 2D: http://minetest.org/avatars.jpg 10:09 thexyz OldCoder: probably 10:09 OldCoder Any particular times good for you? 10:10 OldCoder Of the day I mean 11:07 thexyz finished it, http://minetest.ru/prowseed-minetest-net/index.php 13:16 * OldCoder is resting 14:06 thexyz celeron55: i've finished that new design http://minetest.ru/prowseed-minetest-net/index.php, any thoughts? 14:10 celeron55 thexyz: i have already commented on it long ago 14:11 thexyz and your thoughts haven't changed, right? 14:11 celeron55 not in any considerable way 14:13 celeron55 if there are any serious web designers around, i am willing to try whipping up some amount of constructive criticism 14:14 celeron55 otherwise, i'll just leave it at that; no reason to start a flame war 14:14 thexyz you can just post it here http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3075 14:15 thexyz i guess that man is "serious web designer" enough 14:17 celeron55 he hasn't posted anything on the forum for months 14:18 thexyz so what? 14:20 NekoGloop He's busy. Desinging webs. 14:20 celeron55 i expect him to be long gone and replies to be wasted effort 14:21 thexyz i don't think so 14:21 thexyz we can contact him by email 14:36 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:50 NekoGloop Hello pilzadam 14:51 PilzAdam the new 1 frame death animation is funny 15:39 Taoki PilzAdam: It's better that way, since the ugly loop problem is fixed. If you want it to be smooth, animation blending will be possible to use for that, when Irrlicht fixes the bug it has with it 15:39 Taoki The 1 frame animation is also easier to use for other things, like laying down in bed rather than just death 15:40 PilzAdam i said nothing against it 15:40 Taoki Sure. BTW: In the model, it's actually 5 frames. Since if I try to loop the same frame, the model just freezes in place. It's odd 15:41 Taoki But it works so no biggie 15:41 PilzAdam should the selectionbox should be changed when dead? 15:41 Taoki But now there's a stand, sit, and lay animation. Stand is standing default, sit will be for mods like chairs and carts, lay is used for death and can be used by mods like beds 15:42 Taoki Can probably be done. Not important so I didn't look into it 15:42 Taoki Not urgent at least 15:42 PilzAdam so the camera would fit to the model 15:42 Taoki Bounding box should be possible to change where the animations are set 15:42 Taoki But that can be done later, it's one of the little things 15:43 PilzAdam currently the player that is dead doesnt know that he has the dead animation 15:43 PilzAdam it just seems like you are still standing 15:44 Calinou methinks "death" animation should use one frame of "lay" animation, and make the "lay" animation slightly animated (if this isn't the case already, haven't tested yet) 15:44 Calinou so that dead players look dead, players laying do not :P 15:45 PilzAdam sometimes sleeping people look like dead in RL 15:45 Taoki Lay animation isn't animated, but doesn't need to be really 15:45 Taoki Looks fine as is 15:45 Calinou it looks like you are dead :P 15:46 Calinou in minecraft when you're on a bed you still animate a bit 15:46 Taoki Not much tio animate there either, for the blocky player especially 15:46 Taoki didn't even notice that :P Some other time if anything 15:46 Calinou also, is the lighting bug fixed? 15:46 Calinou (when you have 2+ players in view) 15:46 Taoki Not by me, don't know how 16:16 jin_xi Taoki: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-11-25#i_2659388 16:17 Taoki ah, that explains the blackness bug with models and items / entities 16:26 Penguin hi 16:26 * Calinou tried to make player yaw transitions smoother 16:26 Calinou literally failed 16:27 Calinou it broke everything when I tried to do it :3 16:37 bulletrulz hi :) 16:37 bulletrulz VanessaE, is your server up? 16:37 PilzAdam hi bulletrulz 16:37 PilzAdam hi john_minetest 16:37 PilzAdam ooops 16:38 PilzAdam hi jordan4ibanez 16:38 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, what was the distro you were talking about last night? 16:38 jordan4ibanez comiceos 4 16:39 bulletrulz oh 16:39 bulletrulz i tried that too osxey for me 16:41 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, did u switch to it? 16:41 Calinou lol 16:41 Calinou unknown distros ftl 16:42 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtjW9Z_8ZCU 16:42 Jordach Taoki - you implemented HATS!!!!?! 16:42 Calinou HATS 16:42 Calinou minetest is the new TF2 16:42 jordan4ibanez Now we are tf3 16:42 Jordach TROLOLOL 16:43 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/117f2088263833a40b672b702fb215e52b88be5c wow 16:43 bulletrulz pilz go back on the server 16:43 Lumpio- Did I hear somebody say hats? 16:43 PilzAdam hi Jordach 16:43 PilzAdam bulletrulz, what server? 16:44 bulletrulz VanessaE, 16:44 bulletrulz server 16:44 Calinou hats are broken, jordan4ibanez 16:44 Calinou Jordach* 16:44 Calinou transparent zones become black 16:45 Jordach i thought they were fixed 16:48 NekoGloop Meow? 16:49 PilzAdam Calinou, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/5f798d944ee03beca205b107dda58bdc72dd2bf8 ? 16:50 jordan4ibanez Is there a server where people have custom skins? 16:50 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, VanessaE 16:50 bulletrulz for 4.4 16:50 bulletrulz 04/4 16:50 jordan4ibanez wat is ur survur vanussau 16:50 bulletrulz but shes not online lol 16:50 jordan4ibanez What is her server? 16:50 PilzAdam minetest.ru:12345 is 0.4.4 too 16:50 bulletrulz hold on 16:51 bulletrulz 24.181.193.82 30000 16:51 bulletrulz im on there too 16:53 Calinou PilzAdam: ah, my git repo didn't update due to local changes :) 16:54 PilzAdam thexyz, update minetest.ru:12345 to latest git 16:54 jordan4ibanez TO 24.181.193.82 16:54 bulletrulz lol :D 16:54 bulletrulz for 0.4.4 16:55 PilzAdam see you next monday when media is downloaded ;-) 16:55 bulletrulz media downloaded quick for me about 4 min 16:56 PilzAdam on "normal" servers it takes 30 sec. max 16:56 PilzAdam VanessaE just installed millions of mods 16:56 jordan4ibanez It's taking me 3 years to go 16:56 jordan4ibanez Pilzadam, can you like post a tut on how to mount entities? lol 16:57 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/blob/attachment/init.lua#L665 16:57 PilzAdam thats all 16:58 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, just wait itll get faster 16:59 Calinou http://ompldr.org/vZ2gxYw/screenshot_1120799023.png poor Player, he got killed by a torch. 16:59 Calinou lol 17:00 Calinou added skin for 3D player in misa's pack :) 17:00 kotolegokot hello everyone 17:01 PilzAdam hi 17:01 * Jordach zooms in, hats work fine Calinou 17:02 kotolegokot how i can to fix image in inventory? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53677973/tmp/03452.png 17:02 PilzAdam use inventory_image = "texture.png", in node definition? 17:02 jordan4ibanez WHERE IS THE TRAMPOLINE CODE 17:02 bulletrulz lol im stuck in the thing 17:03 Calinou Jordach: yeah they do 17:03 Jordach see 17:03 Jordach this is not minecraft 17:03 Calinou PilzAdam: you mean inventory_image = minetest.inventorycube("texture.png") 17:03 Jordach (the render is probably better) 17:04 kotolegokot http://paste.ubuntu.com/1392139/ 17:05 bulletrulz NOOOO FACE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mULx2qcsioY 17:06 jordan4ibanez VanessaE where did you get the trampoline mod? 17:07 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2957 17:07 * NekoGloop plays shooter game 17:07 * NekoGloop gets k/d ratio of 3:4 17:07 * NekoGloop fuuuuuuu-- 17:07 Jordach NekoGloop - cod? 17:07 Jordach bfxx? 17:07 kotolegokot PilzAdam, If I will use inventory_image, I should draw many textures. That long. 17:08 jordan4ibanez This group bouncy=20+i*20 17:08 NekoGloop Shadowgate: Deadzone 17:08 jordan4ibanez wtf 17:08 PilzAdam kotolegokot, i see the problem 17:09 jordan4ibanez Can you draw an image on the gui yet? 17:09 PilzAdam formspec or real gui? 17:10 jordan4ibanez Real gui, could you mount a gui to the player? 17:11 NekoGloop Not shadowgate. Derp 17:11 NekoGloop Shadowgun. 17:12 NakedFury is that game good? 17:12 PilzAdam you mean minetest? 17:12 NakedFury I have been trying to find a fun ipad shooter 17:13 VanessaE[L] boo. 17:14 NakedFury boo 17:14 NakedFury o/ 17:14 VanessaE[L] hi 17:14 PilzAdam VanessaE[L], we have nice glass entities again: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/117f2088263833a40b672b702fb215e52b88be5c 17:14 NekoGloop NakedFury: Yup 17:14 VanessaE[L] PilzAdam, er... 17:14 VanessaE[L] heh 17:15 VanessaE[L] I was about to ask what I missed :-) 17:15 PilzAdam c55 said me that inventory_image should override everything 17:15 NekoGloop VanessaE[L]: All hell breaking loose. :3 17:15 PilzAdam even the item_entity 17:15 VanessaE[L] neko: lol 17:15 NekoGloop How about drop_image? 17:15 VanessaE[L] PilzAdam, well, to fix glass et.al maybe a different approach is needed. 17:16 PilzAdam c55 already looked how to fix the "cube in inventory is dark" bug 17:16 VanessaE[L] like figuring out why it's black in the inventory (without an inventory image) in the first place. 17:16 VanessaE[L] oh ok 17:17 PilzAdam but: PilzAdam: i'm afraid this thing will be left untouched for now 17:17 NekoGloop NakedFury: Not quite my cup of tea but is not a bad game by any means. 17:18 NakedFury its kind of sad how not many developers actually take advantage of the ipad, or tablet 17:18 NakedFury keep releasing crap shooter ports 17:18 PilzAdam apple is evil 17:18 PilzAdam and shouldnt be supported 17:18 VanessaE[L] NakedFury, well apple doesn't make it particularly easy to develop for it do they? 17:18 VanessaE[L] (as opposed to an open system like a PC) 17:19 PilzAdam heh, "Lets realease a not programmable PC" 17:19 NakedFury apple are pros when it comes to getting people to spend $600 yearly for new products 17:19 VanessaE[L] NakedFury, haha 17:19 Jordach NakedFury - bs, my ipad2 is still as fast as it was two years ago 17:20 NakedFury unless you jailbrake the ipad or iphone or itouch they are incomplete crap products 17:20 PilzAdam but everyone wants them 17:20 * PilzAdam not 17:20 NakedFury bunch or small fixes can only be done with cydia stuff 17:20 NakedFury example no wishlist on the itunes store 17:20 NakedFury so simple yet not present ever 17:21 VanessaE[L] brb 17:21 NakedFury limited folders and apps in folders 17:21 NekoGloop NakedFury: Shadowgun is only a tad laggy. 17:22 NekoGloop Which is probably just my internet. 17:22 NakedFury also big lack of quality strategy games here 17:24 NekoGloop Try bloons tower defense. 17:25 NakedFury already played it on kongregate 17:25 Kray yes 17:25 NakedFury and I mean real time strategies or turn based strategies not tower defense 17:25 NakedFury age of empires, simcity, civilizations style 17:25 NakedFury the ipad would be perfect with some control fixes 17:25 Kray yes 17:26 Kray nope 17:26 Jordach NakedFury - yes it would, but the ipad is objective-c, not c++ 17:26 VanessaE[L] john_minetest, grab it from sources. 17:27 VanessaE[L] you have to compile it yourself for now. 17:27 * Jordach hates itunes' way of ordering music by ablum, album artist 17:28 NakedFury iTunes and App store really need a Wishlist tab 17:28 NakedFury "ohh I can't buy this now, let me place on whislist so I won't forget" 17:29 Jordach or just use notes app like i do 17:29 Jordach problem solved 17:29 Kray john_minetest: 0.4.4 isn't released yet? 17:30 Jordach kray - get back to EVE online 17:30 VanessaE[L] Kray, source code from github. 17:30 VanessaE[L] come on people, learn to compile :-) 17:30 Jordach VanessaE[L] - i know 17:30 celeron55 Kray: it isn't released yet 17:30 Kray I don't see tag for 0.4.4 17:31 Jordach a simple cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 and a make -j4 17:31 Jordach problemo solved 17:31 VanessaE[L] Jordach, some people are still relegated to windows. :-) 17:31 Jordach (im a windows guy and its easy) 17:31 celeron55 VanessaE[L]: have you used the network parameters by now? 17:31 VanessaE[L] celeron55, not yet, I haven't had a chance to work with it - just got up about an hour ago. 17:32 * Jordach smells the aroma of bacon 17:32 * Jordach drools 17:32 celeron55 i'm waiting for you to see if one can get any practical benefit from them before including them upstream 17:32 * john_minetest just ate but hungry again... 17:32 NakedFury ohh thats me Jordach, baked potato with cheese and bacon 17:32 Jordach mmmm, bacon + egg + baked beans + mushrooms 17:32 Jordach and of course toast 17:32 bulletrulz back 17:33 VanessaE[L] celeron55, a lit later today I will check. 17:33 NekoGloop Chimichangas. 17:33 sokomine ok. tell me when the testserver is up again with the new network code 17:33 sokomine hi, btw :-) 17:33 VanessaE[L] willdo, sokomine 17:34 VanessaE[L] for now, others are saying it's working far better now, so you might want to play with it some 17:35 sokomine shall i compile a new version or is that one from yesterday still current? 17:35 VanessaE[L] compile a new one. hats code got pushed :-) 17:35 hummer Hello 17:35 VanessaE[L] hi hummer 17:35 hummer Russian here? 17:35 VanessaE[L] no 17:35 sokomine hmpf. i hate firefox eating up computing time while idling 17:35 hummer Can help with the landscape generator? 17:36 VanessaE[L] sokomine, maybe 18 will be better with that ionmonkey script engine. 17:36 Jordach or chromium 17:36 Jordach no lag 17:36 Jordach >:D 17:36 VanessaE[L] heh 17:36 hummer in what files to be functions of generation of the world 17:37 NekoGloop Maybe internet explorer would be better. 17:37 PilzAdam anyone know the Pope emoticon? +<:-) 17:37 VanessaE[L] haha 17:37 bulletrulz NekoGloop hahahah internet explorer whats wrong with u 17:38 PilzAdam john_minetest, prepare to wait 3 years to load media 17:38 VanessaE[L] irrlicht bug. 17:38 sokomine well, it's not exactly lag. it just causes load for no apparent reason. cpu cycles that could be used by minetest :) 17:38 hummer ?--in what files to be functions of generation of the world--? 17:38 PilzAdam if i select it in Klipper (KDE) I can paste it in main menu 17:39 marktraceur hummer: Usually mapgen.cpp and mapgen.hpp IIRC 17:39 VanessaE[L] PilzAdam, for some reason, copy&paste doesn't work for everone, in linux 17:39 PilzAdam marktraceur, hpp????? 17:39 marktraceur Errr, .h? 17:39 sokomine hummer: at which level do you want to change world generation? mod or mt-code? 17:40 marktraceur PilzAdam: Some projects use .cpp/.hpp, others use .cpp/.h 17:40 VanessaE[L] what's a .hpp? some evil hybrid of a .h and .cpp file? :-) 17:40 marktraceur Some actually use .c++, though that doesn't make much sense. 17:40 PilzAdam never heard about hpp 17:40 OldCoder Back 17:40 marktraceur VanessaE[L]: It's just a way of specifying that the header file is for C++. 17:40 sokomine john_minetest: you'll eventually arrive on the server. get a cup of coffee and relax :) at least it's faster the second time... 17:40 VanessaE[L] whoosh :-) 17:41 hummer sokomine: I write game on similarity of minecraft but only also realistic purposes are used 3д models, there is no only world generation. Game I write on with ++ FrameWork 17:41 VanessaE[L] yeah, it'll take a while to download the media 17:42 VanessaE[L] I killed off that ambiance mod, which was temporary anyway. That helped considerably but didn't solve the issue of course 17:42 PilzAdam VanessaE[L], maybe just dont install a googolplexplex of mods? 17:42 hummer who will help with a question of generation of the world? skype: bond_russia 17:43 VanessaE[L] celeron55, I think it would be a good idea for the server not to announce to everyone that a client has connected, until the client starts actually displaying the world to the player. 17:43 VanessaE[L] PilzAdam, well that helps some :-) 17:44 sokomine true. it's irritating if a player is supposed to be there already - has logged in according to message, is visible in the game - but will not actually be there for half an hour until the media got transmitted 17:44 sokomine ah. this time it was all much faster 17:46 bulletrulz lag lol 17:46 VanessaE[L] ain't my fault :-) 17:46 VanessaE[L] I'm not even on the server right now :-) 17:46 bulletrulz lol nothing your fault it is lol jk 17:46 PilzAdam VanessaE[L], did you know that you have more mods installed than protons exist in the universe? 17:47 VanessaE[L] (my anemic little laptop can barely push 15fps with my 64px pack (and 20 with default) 17:47 VanessaE[L] PilzAdam, yeah, so? :D 17:47 bulletrulz it says uare 17:48 PilzAdam there are 10^80 protons and you have a googolplexplex = 10^100^(10^100^(10^100)) mods 17:48 VanessaE[L] it does? 17:48 VanessaE[L] odd. 17:48 VanessaE[L] PilzAdam, a googleplex is 10 ^ (10 ^100) 17:48 VanessaE[L] :-) 17:48 PilzAdam i said googolplexPLEX 17:48 VanessaE[L] oh haha 17:48 VanessaE[L] shit. 17:49 bulletrulz \i think i should go fuck with people on mumble 17:49 VanessaE[L] and I said "google-" instead of "googol-" 17:49 NekoGloop VanessaE: googolplex 17:49 * VanessaE[L] hands in her geek card. 17:49 * PilzAdam burns it 17:49 VanessaE[L] yeah I know. damn corporations :D 17:49 celeron55 tuning the values in the right way should do much good to media load time 17:50 celeron55 actually, the branch might transfer media already faster because it changes one thing (probably not) 17:50 VanessaE[L] when I get back to my PC I'll fiddle with that 17:50 bulletrulz VanessaE[L], 17:50 bulletrulz start a mumble server lol 17:51 sokomine btw, the stairsplus-nodes are most of the time not visible in the inventory (their images) 17:51 VanessaE[L] mumble? why> 17:51 VanessaE[L] sokomine, those work fine on my PC and my laptop? 17:51 VanessaE[L] brb 17:52 bulletrulz so people can tlak on mic lol 17:52 sokomine no matter what server i most of the time get half of them as inventory images at max 17:52 sokomine but i don't remember how much memory i gave to the onboard grapics card. hm. perhaps not much... 17:53 Penguin hi 17:55 thexyz PilzAdam: updated now 17:57 PilzAdam k 18:00 VanessaE[L] sokomine, out of graphics memory> 18:00 VanessaE[L] ? 18:01 rubenwardy bloody hell, my temp forum already has spam 18:01 sokomine most likely, yes 18:01 VanessaE[L] rubenwardy, sowwy 18:02 PilzAdam hi rubenwardy 18:03 NekoGloop Go figure 18:05 rubenwardy why are you VanessaE[L]? 18:06 VanessaE[L] because. :-) 18:06 VanessaE[L] (I'm on my laptop.) 18:06 NakedFury she is late? 18:06 NakedFury ohh laptop 18:06 NekoGloop Because she's [Lost] 18:06 NakedFury could also be VanessaE[M] for mobile 18:07 sokomine hmm. i want an npc that does the roof of a house :-) 18:08 Jordach hello nekoGloop 18:08 bulletrulz sokomine, it was lagging 18:08 InuGloop Woof. 18:09 sokomine most of the time it seems to work now (more or less - some lag is always there...) 18:09 sokomine it still laggs considerably when using creative inv 18:09 * Jordach is working on a female model skin 18:09 Jordach -model 18:10 Taoki Jordach: Yes, hats are implemented now. So all MineCraft skins will work 18:10 Jordach super sweet 18:11 VanessaE[L] yes and they look good 18:11 VanessaE[L] sokomine, care to link to that last good screenshot of me? 18:11 * InuGloop got a 7:1 k/d ratio woot! 18:15 bulletrulz inu gllop is nekogloop 18:16 Jordach we know 18:16 bulletrulz lol 18:16 OldCoder Let NekoGloop figure out who he wishes to be 18:16 bulletrulz a boy or a girl LOL XD 18:16 OldCoder Let it go 18:17 bulletrulz OldCoder, what the name of your os? 18:17 InuGloop inu is dog. neko is cat 18:18 bulletrulz lol WTF 18:18 * Jordach knows a lot of japanese 18:18 OldCoder InuGloop, that makes sense in a way 18:18 OldCoder InuYasha 18:18 OldCoder Like that? 18:18 OldCoder Is InuGloop an inushounen? 18:19 OldCoder Or, rather, *was* InuGloop an inushounen? 18:19 PilzAdam wtf?!? 18:19 OldCoder PilzAdam, ? 18:19 PilzAdam did I just saw a dog transforming to a cat?!?! 18:19 OldCoder Yep 18:19 NekoGloop Yes. Yes you did. 18:19 OldCoder Woofmeow 18:19 bulletrulz PilzAdam, YEP 18:19 Jordach oh christ, what have we done!!!! 18:19 Jordach O.O 18:19 bulletrulz lol 18:19 OldCoder It is no big deal 18:20 * Jordach sneaks off 18:20 * NekoGloop yawns 18:20 OldCoder Dogs into cats are an everyday occurrence surely 18:20 * bulletrulz cathes Jordach 18:20 OldCoder cats Jordach? 18:20 Jordach i like TRAINS 18:20 bulletrulz a train hits jordach 18:20 OldCoder A train of thought 18:21 * NekoGloop meow 18:21 bulletrulz trololololololololololololololololololololololololololoolololololololololololololollololololol 18:22 bulletrulz ;p 18:22 Jordach wait, did neko use a silent /nick? 18:22 NekoGloop What? 18:23 NekoGloop No, you just didnt notice me changing nicks. 18:23 Jordach oh yes, there was a /nick 18:25 * Jordach is trying HD skins 18:27 * john_minetest exists 18:28 bulletrulz OldCoder, did u try qupzilla? 18:29 * rubenwardy is thinking about the life, universe and... 18:29 OldCoder bulletrulz, I won't be able to build it until December or January 18:29 bulletrulz lol why? 18:29 bulletrulz OldCoder, why? 18:29 OldCoder bulletrulz, I am under water with things; over my head 18:29 OldCoder Trying to straighten everything out 18:30 bulletrulz well your gonna drown lol 18:30 OldCoder That's a cheerful thought bulletrulz :-) 18:30 OldCoder Thank you for the support! 18:31 Jordach rubenwardy 42? 18:31 rubenwardy everything 18:31 rubenwardy == 42 :D 18:32 Jordach OldCoder - some monty python: he's not the messiah; he's a very naughty boy! 18:32 OldCoder k 18:34 rubenwardy i didnt vote for you! 18:37 bulletrulz OldCoder, wtf 18:37 bulletrulz xDDD 18:37 rubenwardy monty python quotes 18:37 Jordach rubenwardy - a test of a hd skin http://i.imgur.com/yxZiZ.png 18:38 VanessaE[L] that is HD? 18:38 OldCoder bulletrulz, ? 18:38 VanessaE[L] nice though,. 18:38 OldCoder High Definition I assume 18:38 Jordach thats a 2x the size of a normal 18:38 Jordach (faces have 8x, this being 16x) 18:38 VanessaE[L] that ain't HD but it is nice 18:38 Jordach also, 16px mt logo 18:40 VanessaE[L] to call it HD it needs to be like 128px across by 256px vertically 18:40 VanessaE[L] (relative to the whole model) 18:41 Jordach hell no 18:41 Jordach anything above default is hd 18:41 Jordach because it contains more pixels 18:42 VanessaE[L] then half the mods for MT are HD including some nodes in homedecor :-) 18:42 bulletrulz mijyns new game 18:42 bulletrulz https://t.co/juocc5bh 18:47 bulletrulz gonna play some freedm onlinr 18:50 PilzAdam brb 18:50 VanessaE[L] bbl 18:51 VanessaE[L] or rather, moving to the PC where I can see wtf I'm doing. One screen ain't enough :D 18:51 Jordach vanessaE - http://imgur.com/a/bP0Xy 18:51 Jordach theres a difference. but its the same t 18:51 Jordach +p 18:51 rubenwardy (6:37:52 PM) Jordach: rubenwardy - a test of a hd skin http://i.imgur.com/yxZiZ.png 18:51 rubenwardy cool 18:53 Jordach jeezus h. the ipad is louder than my old droid tab 18:54 Jordach my headphones are reaching almost 90db with my mic testing 18:55 VanessaE there. a normal keyboard, two normal monitors, and a normal chair and desk. :-) 18:55 Jordach vanessaE 18:55 Jordach http://imgur.com/a/bP0Xy find the difference 18:55 Calinou multiscreen on linux? oh you made it work, you deserve nobel prize 18:56 Calinou :> 18:56 VanessaE OldCoder: btw, no it doesn't use leveldb (you asked earlier, I didn't see it till just now) 18:56 VanessaE Calinou: nVidia 99, ATI 4. :-) 18:57 VanessaE dual-screen "just works" on ATI drivers :-) 18:57 Calinou nvidia too 18:57 Jordach same for windows :3 18:57 Calinou you can even choose what to do: separate x server, twinview... 18:57 PilzAdam what is this script for? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/master/util/wireshark 18:58 OldCoder VanessaE, ty. I am committed to LevelDB now and I recommend it be merged into main. 18:59 VanessaE OldCoder: have you guys solved the cross-compatibility issue with old maps? 19:00 OldCoder VanessaE, Which one? 19:00 OldCoder The SQLite3 export issue? yes 19:00 ruskie OldCoder, did you upgrade europe yet? 19:00 OldCoder Can go back and forth 19:00 VanessaE about automatically importing old sql maps 19:00 OldCoder ruskie, No 19:00 OldCoder VanessaE, Not following. I can convert back and forth if that is what you mean. 19:01 OldCoder WorldEdit can be used reliably too 19:01 VanessaE OldCoder: well remember that before, you had to make changes to the program and/or world config files to force it to use leveldb? 19:01 OldCoder Though not for entire maps; too large 19:01 OldCoder VanessaE, the world.mt file must be edited to specify the desired mode. No changes are required now to the main config. 19:02 OldCoder VanessaE, It is a one-line change. Makes sense as the engine still supports both modes. 19:02 VanessaE what about defaulting to leveldb for new worlds? 19:02 OldCoder VanessaE, I could make that change easily 19:02 VanessaE I recommend it. 19:02 OldCoder It would be trivial I think 19:02 OldCoder Very well 19:02 VanessaE the less things a new user has to edit in their configs, the better. 19:02 OldCoder VanessaE, sure 19:03 Jordach yeah, like how mc, always converts the old format into the new 19:05 Penguin hey 19:06 Penguin ? 19:08 VanessaE celeron55, sokomine, anyone else who wants to test it, the test server with congestions_settings is up, with the previously-discussed congestion_control_min_rate = 50 added to the config. Running a copy of the same world, same collection of mods, same skins, and otherwise the same config file as the main server. 19:08 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30001 for congestion_settings (port 30000 for the master branch) 19:10 Jordach rubenwardy - your player skin forum needs a download all for packaging for PilzAdam's mod 19:14 Jordach hm, i've been working on a "super" file type 19:14 khonkhortisan carts clone themselves now 19:14 Jordach uh-oh 19:15 VanessaE khonkhortisan: saw that. don't know how to fix it. PilzAdam, that's your call :-) 19:16 PilzAdam hm, what? 19:16 VanessaE carts. that's your mod is it not? 19:16 PilzAdam yep, let me read the log 19:16 VanessaE they're cloning themselves occasionally, and sometimes won't go down a hill. 19:16 khonkhortisan right-click a cart, get one in the inventory, the cart stays there 19:16 sokomine ah 19:16 rubenwardy (7:10:54 PM) Jordach: rubenwardy - your player skin forum needs a download all for packaging for PilzAdam's mod 19:16 rubenwardy What do you mean? As in a program that fetches each persons skin? 19:17 Jordach nono, like hitting zipball on github 19:17 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/avatar/files/ 19:17 VanessaE no one wants to try out the 0.4.4 congestion_settings branch? 19:17 sokomine the not getting down a hill seems to be in combination with turns. turn + height change -> doesn't work from one side (might still work from the other side) 19:17 VanessaE (your regular 0.4.4 should suffice I guess?_ 19:18 PilzAdam VanessaE, cloning carts are an engine bug 19:18 sokomine item and node definition have arrived. waiting for media 19:19 sokomine seems to have arrived 19:19 VanessaE sokomine: did you clear your minetest cache? 19:19 sokomine no....ought to have done that i think 19:19 VanessaE yeah, log out, clear it, log in 19:19 sokomine but at least i didn't get that one-minute-delay like yesterday 19:19 VanessaE let's see what this baby can do :D 19:19 khonkhortisan Remember the dirt_with_grass-desert_sand transition? It looks right if they're at the same height, but if the dirt is placed one node above the sand, there's holes in the dirt. 19:19 sokomine where's the cache stored? 19:20 VanessaE ~/.minetest/cache 19:20 VanessaE just delete the whole subdir 19:20 * sokomine looks frighened 19:20 VanessaE lol 19:20 sokomine well, you're not the one who has to wait until all that media arrives again :-) 19:20 VanessaE yeah it'll make all servers take a while to reload, but it's *worth* it :D 19:20 sokomine i'll just move it away 19:20 * VanessaE watches the netowrk meter 19:20 VanessaE network* 19:21 VanessaE waiting for you :-) 19:22 sokomine connecting again 19:22 khonkhortisan oh that toilet. 19:22 VanessaE max 20 kB/sec, averaging about 12. 19:22 * khonkhortisan feels slow 19:22 sokomine well...the % number does visibly increase 19:23 VanessaE max 30kB/sec, averaging about 15. 19:23 sokomine hangs now at 8%... 19:23 sokomine 9... 19:23 sokomine might make it today :-) 19:23 sokomine seems faster than the old version already 19:23 rubenwardy Jordach: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/avatar/zipball.php 19:23 VanessaE this seems notably faster 19:23 Jordach rubenwardy - thanks 19:23 VanessaE but still far below my max.. 19:23 Jordach now its easier to include them with PilzAdam's mod 19:24 sokomine well, my max download rate is 1/3 of your upload rate, so...it will take time with a lot of mods 19:24 VanessaE congestion_control_aim_rtt = 0.2 <-- lets tweak this to 0.75 and see what it breaks :D 19:24 sokomine 28% 19:24 VanessaE soko: oh you're flooding your downlink already? 19:24 sokomine but such a number at least gives hope 19:24 sokomine don't think so. just wanted to say that my download isn't that high and will not be able to fill your upload 19:25 VanessaE oh ok. 19:25 VanessaE alright, close it off. 19:25 VanessaE lemme tweak that other setting. 19:25 VanessaE maybe 0.6 is right. 19:25 sokomine hmpf :-( i already got 59% :) 19:25 sokomine but tweak it 19:25 VanessaE ok, clear your cache and try again 19:26 sokomine it was considerably faster and did transmit ~5 mb 19:26 sokomine ok...trying again 19:26 VanessaE oh yeah, it's moving faster now 19:26 VanessaE seems to be averaging 25-30 kB/sec 19:27 VanessaE at my end anyway 19:27 VanessaE well it was :-) 19:27 sokomine 10% 19:27 VanessaE what's your ping time to me? 19:27 * khonkhortisan doesn't agree with /giveme being a different privilage than creative 19:28 sokomine around 125 ms 19:28 VanessaE khonkhortisan: sure, simple: you shouldn't be able to get say water source in creative if the admin doesn't want it to be there, but still get it with a /giveme if you have that priv 19:28 * sokomine nods to khonkhortisan and has thought the same a few minutes ago while trying to build with a too-slow creative inv 19:28 sokomine givme would have been faster i think 19:28 khonkhortisan well, I meant I should be able to skip to the last item in the creative list without clicking the button 65 times 19:29 khonkhortisan huh. Carts don't stack. 19:29 sokomine and maybe filling part of the inv automaticly with predefined things, e.g. "bathroom", "kitchen", "doors", "light", "stairs", ... 19:29 sokomine might be faster to do that in one go 19:30 sokomine 70% 19:30 VanessaE khonkhortisan: RBA has a "unified inventory" that remedies that. 19:30 sokomine definitely faster than previously 19:31 sokomine (the automatic filling beeing subject to buttons pressed or commands typed in) 19:31 sokomine 81% 19:31 VanessaE sokomine: much better. 19:31 sokomine definitely 19:31 VanessaE now I need someone with a good, fat pipe to try it. 19:31 khonkhortisan Having played open transport tycoon deluxe and simutrans, I will be playing with the rails. 19:31 VanessaE brb 19:32 khonkhortisan know what page the signal is on? 19:32 sokomine just make sure you don't go up or down immediately after a turn. that does not seem to work 19:33 khonkhortisan If I'm going down a mine shaft, and it splits into three directions, how would I decide which direction to go without the possibility of whizzing by the switch? 19:33 marktraceur VanessaE: Does this new version have working carts? 19:33 khonkhortisan some bugs 19:33 khonkhortisan duplication, stopping down hills 19:33 marktraceur khonkhortisan: Do carts keep moving through block boundaries? 19:34 marktraceur khonkhortisan: i.e. if the block isn't loaded at the time 19:34 khonkhortisan not that I've noticed. I know movestones do that 19:34 marktraceur Hrm. 19:34 marktraceur Bollocks to movestones and bollocks to carts not moving if they hit unloaded blocks. 19:35 marktraceur I can walk anyway 19:35 sokomine well, and moving up/downhill is strange since it is rather hopping than gliding :-) but that's a minor problem 19:35 khonkhortisan yeah, it makes roller coasters not fun 19:37 thexyz does anybody know what's the license of http://api.minetest.net contents? 19:37 sokomine using creative inv is still so slow that it's almost unusable 19:37 rubenwardy thexyz: i wrote the "getting started" page 19:38 rubenwardy that is wtfpl 19:38 thexyz because i'm planning to convert this one to mediawiki and don't know which license to use 19:39 thexyz cc0 is fine for documentation, isn't it? 19:40 OldCoder thexyz, CC-BY-NC-SA ? 19:41 Jordach OldCoder thats my license 19:41 OldCoder k 19:41 Jordach (what i use often) 19:41 thexyz OldCoder: i don't like NC part 19:41 Calinou CC BY FTW 19:41 OldCoder thexyz, there are multiple variations of course 19:43 Calinou unrelated: anyone hosts a server with latest git? 19:43 VanessaE Calinou: I do. 19:43 Calinou minetest.ru:12345 is empty 19:43 thexyz and i don't understand "attribution" part (in relation to wiki), should i attribute anybody who modified that page? 19:44 thexyz Calinou: it's up (at least) 19:44 VanessaE Calinou: 0.4.4 built about half an hour ago, 24.181.193.82 port 30001 if you wanna help me test the congestion_settings or port 30000 for the master branch 19:44 VanessaE (the world on 30001 is a temporary copy of the world on 30000) 19:45 Calinou thexyz: that's why CC licenses get quickly annoying for wikis :/ 19:45 Calinou then use something like CC0 or WTFPL... 19:45 VanessaE Calinou: wrong one, use port 30001. 19:47 thexyz Calinou: then there's problem with code samples, as they will often be non cc0-compatible (like minimal or minetest_game) 19:50 khonkhortisan Could not open file of texture: character.png ... Loaded mesh: character.x 19:50 khonkhortisan PNG warning: Interlace handling should be turned on when using png_read_image ... you people look black now 19:51 jin_xi wtf VanessaE is your server ever not shutting down ;) 19:51 VanessaE jin_xi: I restarted it to remove an obsolete setting. 19:51 VanessaE try again. 19:52 VanessaE wow, now THAT's what I'm talking about. 19:52 VanessaE jin_xi gets > 50 KB/sec. 19:52 VanessaE that's an order of magnitude better than before. 19:55 khonkhortisan aah! I built a four-loop circular railroad and it threw the cart 19:55 khonkhortisan 10 nodes away from a turn 19:55 VanessaE lol 19:56 Calinou when trying to start a second MT instance, I get this: X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) 19:56 Calinou wtf 19:56 Calinou never seen this before :| 19:56 VanessaE out of video mem? 19:56 Calinou how can I check? :P 19:57 VanessaE no clue 19:57 Calinou there, started two instances 19:57 VanessaE jin_xi: you alive on the congestion_setting server? 19:59 PilzAdam gtg; bye 20:01 VanessaE jin_xi, turn your F2 chat back on you schmuck :) 20:03 sokomine connecting a second time is really fast now 20:03 VanessaE celeron55: the congestion settings help with download speeds, but access to the creative inventory is still laggy (for jin_xi anyway) 20:04 sokomine for me too. changing a page, taking something out of creative inv, putting something in the trash-field...all that takes too long 20:05 VanessaE is there a particular reason the client can't predict that stuff and just..go? 20:06 VanessaE like with digging/placing nodes 20:06 celeron55 thexyz: do you have the sql dump? 20:08 celeron55 VanessaE: the reason is that implementing such prediction on the existing system explodes brains 20:08 VanessaE lol 20:08 VanessaE ok, fair enough :D 20:08 VanessaE celeron55: you gonna clear your cache and sign in to the server or what? :-) 20:08 celeron55 i might try 20:08 VanessaE ok 20:09 rubenwardy bye all 20:09 VanessaE ciao rubenwardy 20:09 thexyz celeron55: of what? 20:09 celeron55 i need to build master first though 20:09 VanessaE oh ok. 20:09 celeron55 i was doing something completely different 20:10 VanessaE no problem, you said you were waiting, but I don't want to harass 20:10 VanessaE (much :D ) 20:11 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/fDmgi.png 20:12 thexyz i'll just convert current api site to mediawiki one and then ask celeron55 to replace it 20:13 celeron55 so you do have the sql? 20:13 celeron55 maybe i don't need to ask that... 20:13 celeron55 cornernote didn't mention any license, but he clearly wanted people to continue using and improving it, so maybe we'll just go with CC BY-SA like minetest generally does 20:14 celeron55 (for the license issue) 20:15 thexyz celeron55: no, i don't have it 20:15 celeron55 http://c55.me/random/2012-11/minetest_api_2012-11-08.sql 20:15 VanessaE celeron55: it's GPL v3 20:15 VanessaE https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-game_wiki 20:15 celeron55 not the same thin 20:15 celeron55 +g 20:15 VanessaE oh ok 20:15 thexyz celeron55: thanks, though i guess that'd not help 20:15 VanessaE oops, you're right. I misread that 20:15 * VanessaE sighs 20:16 celeron55 VanessaE: the server loads slow as hell 20:17 celeron55 :30001 one 20:17 celeron55 not better than :30000 at all 20:17 VanessaE what's your ping time to me? 20:17 celeron55 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 152.387/156.889/163.729/4.082 ms 20:17 VanessaE hrm. Not bad. 20:18 celeron55 i'll see what happens if i use the branch too 20:19 VanessaE ok 20:19 celeron55 what congestion_control_aim_rtt do you have there currently? 20:19 VanessaE 0.6 20:20 VanessaE min_rate is 50 as previously suggested. 20:20 celeron55 raising both so much is probably not a good idea 20:21 VanessaE probably not heh 20:21 celeron55 but anyway, that won't matter in terms of speed, only lag 20:21 celeron55 not better 20:21 VanessaE celeron55: max 60 kB/sec to you just now. That's much better than before. 20:22 VanessaE seems to average ~20kB/sec though 20:22 VanessaE well 25 or so anyway 20:22 celeron55 ehm 20:22 celeron55 it pulls around 12.5kBps 20:22 celeron55 just like :30001 20:23 VanessaE I wonder how much of this is just networking overhead? I'm going by my net meter in xfce 20:23 celeron55 i have no idea what it's showing to you 20:23 celeron55 i'm trusting the meter of my icewm taskbar 20:23 VanessaE I wonder if there's just some simple packet loss going on 20:23 VanessaE hard to tell though 20:24 khonkhortisan when climbing a rail up into the sky, a cart needs dirt under the rail every two nodes. When going horizontally in the air. the cart bobs. It requires something under the rail only at the end when going horizontally. 20:24 celeron55 ping doesn't seem to see packet loss 20:25 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi 20:25 babyface1031 hi OldCoder 20:26 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: I noticed this too. 20:26 leo_rockway there's no 3rd person view in minetest, is there? 20:26 khonkhortisan nope 20:26 VanessaE no 20:26 khonkhortisan there's fov, though 20:27 leo_rockway fov? 20:27 khonkhortisan makes you look like a dretch from tremulous 20:27 leo_rockway oh... 20:27 khonkhortisan where you can see much further sideways 20:27 leo_rockway how can that be done? 20:28 khonkhortisan it's not in my config anymore. fov = 180 maybe? 20:28 leo_rockway it's funny how explaining what "fov" is was so much faster for me when you said "dretch" hehe. 20:28 leo_rockway thanks, I'll try that out. 20:28 VanessaE "field of view" 20:28 leo_rockway thank you 20:29 khonkhortisan huh. I dug a hole, filled it back in, and was down one cobble. (or dirt, not really sure) 20:29 * OldCoder is AFK briefly on an errand 20:30 khonkhortisan oh. coal :) 20:30 OldCoder Coal Cool 20:31 khonkhortisan Do rails move at mostly constant speeds? I could make a stop-motion movie by passing by art walls 20:32 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: there's a max speed in the init.lua 20:32 khonkhortisan but moving horizontally, is it mostly constant? 20:32 leo_rockway if you move in a straight line, I think you go at the same speed 20:32 leo_rockway I think so 20:38 khonkhortisan game of life is turing complete. who would've thunk it. 20:41 bulletrulz http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/how-to-run-chromeos-in-ubuntu this is kinda cool but only 64 bit :/ 20:42 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: game of life in mesecons o.o 20:43 khonkhortisan hmm 20:43 khonkhortisan probably have to build the display at a 90-degree angle from the math, to be able to expand 20:49 thexyz http://wapi.minetest.ru/minetest.register_chatcommand 20:52 bulletrulz lmgtfy 20:57 khonkhortisan Can anyone make a rail-powered moving picture? 21:00 VanessaE put it on the last train to clarksville? 21:00 VanessaE :-) 21:01 khonkhortisan have the rail move past colored walls. But the rail moves pretty slow. 21:02 VanessaE slit effect. 21:02 khonkhortisan don't have the slit right yet 21:02 VanessaE drive past a wall of 1-node-wide slits with images places 2 nodes behind them 21:02 VanessaE problem is the speed of the cart. 21:03 khonkhortisan oh. I was moving toward the walls 21:04 VanessaE take advantage of the parallax between the holes in the wall and the images/nodes placed behind those holes 21:04 VanessaE the farther back they are, the more sharply they'll appear/disappear 21:04 VanessaE get the cart moving fast enough and they will turn into an animated image. 21:05 khonkhortisan that'll work much better than driving through the frame 21:05 VanessaE yes 21:05 VanessaE the further back they are, though, the more likely it is for you to see adjacent images 21:06 khonkhortisan I'm feeling the limit of how increasing the image size makes the slits further apart, reducing the frame rate. 21:06 khonkhortisan Interesting, a smaller image draws faster. 21:09 VanessaE lol! on my test server: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1135824894.png 21:09 VanessaE does that mean someone thinks c55 should sit in the corner? :D 21:09 VanessaE (no, I didn't do that) 21:09 khonkhortisan nice textures 21:11 sokomine oh :-) poor c55 :- 21:11 VanessaE haha 21:15 khonkhortisan if only I had 45-degree walls 21:16 khonkhortisan is there a node that has a really tiny hole in it? 21:16 VanessaE not that I can think of 21:16 VanessaE closest might be an inverted stair 21:17 VanessaE (or regular one) 21:17 VanessaE that's at least a 1/4-node hole anyway 21:17 khonkhortisan I realy like the campfire 21:17 khonkhortisan furnace at home, campfire on the go 21:18 VanessaE or a homedecor oven if you're not "roughing" it :-) 21:18 khonkhortisan I still want to use the stovetop 21:18 VanessaE better to make a separate node for that 21:19 VanessaE a really thin nodebox-based one, that acts as another, much slower oven 21:19 khonkhortisan rail switches could be used for alternate storylines 21:20 sokomine stovetop? 21:20 khonkhortisan the burners on the top of the homedecor oven don't work 21:21 sokomine ah, ok 21:22 VanessaE right, in order for that to happen, either I have to move them into a separate "cookstove" object, or someone has to figure out how to make it give a different formspec depending on clicking the top versus the front/sides :-) 21:23 khonkhortisan allow_formspec(...) does stuff on right click, returns true to show formspec <-- a missing feature 21:26 khonkhortisan elastigirl: the first video on http://blog.blendimages.com/2012/11/11/slit-scan-distorted-dance-video-the-new-gangnam-style/ 21:27 khonkhortisan creepy 21:29 thexyz celeron55: http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page 21:35 khonkhortisan almost a full second between two 3x3 node frames 21:43 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: if you'll do the animation thing, you can include note blocks, connected to the mesecon rail 21:43 leo_rockway then you have music and animation 21:44 khonkhortisan I'm using regular rail. Mesecon rail lights up under the cart? 21:45 leo_rockway in MC, the redstone rail activates when the cart is over it, I think. 21:45 iqualfragile nope 21:45 khonkhortisan but there's a mesecon stop rail 21:45 iqualfragile in mc the redstone rail stops the minecart if its not powered 21:45 leo_rockway I saw a guy that made lights turn on when the cart got over certain rails 21:45 khonkhortisan player detector? 21:46 iqualfragile otherwise it accelerates it 21:46 leo_rockway maybe 21:46 OldCoder Back 21:46 leo_rockway iqualfragile: true... 21:46 iqualfragile there is no detector rail afaik 21:46 leo_rockway hold on, let me look the tutorial up and see if it applies to mesecons too 21:46 khonkhortisan you can make a floor filled with ghoststone that disappears when the object detector in the center of the room activates 21:46 iqualfragile well, my last game of minecraft dates 5 months back so that informaiton might be slightly out of date 21:47 leo_rockway I've never actually really played 21:47 leo_rockway just tried it out to compare it to MT 21:48 khonkhortisan is there a way to make one-way rail? 21:49 iqualfragile uh, wait a moment 21:49 iqualfragile does that mean that there are/will be working carts in minetest? 21:49 bulletrulz hi 21:50 VanessaE there are. 21:50 bulletrulz iqualfragile, there aready is?? 21:50 khonkhortisan they mostly work, unless you change rail direction twice in two nodes, or the other thing I already forgot 21:50 leo_rockway they work already 21:50 VanessaE sokomine and I have been playing with them on my server. 21:50 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: if there are no blocks under the rails 21:50 iqualfragile if you refer to pilzadams carts: last time i tried those they were quite buggy 21:50 leo_rockway they bob 21:50 leo_rockway iqualfragile: there's a new branch that works with the new 3D players. 21:51 * marktraceur asks foolishly whether 0.4.4 is going to be released soon (or if it will be 0.5 because of tghe big new player-facing stuff) 21:51 marktraceur the* 21:51 iqualfragile mind sending me a link? 21:51 khonkhortisan I don't care if it's released, it works for me :P 21:52 marktraceur khonkhortisan: For those of us running production servers it would be nice to have some indication of "hey this is stable now" 21:52 marktraceur Not to mention builds. 21:52 khonkhortisan I don't know how only the head sticks out when in a cart 21:53 leo_rockway http://youtu.be/Wta7K7hG__I 21:53 leo_rockway those are the neww things 21:53 leo_rockway new* 21:53 iqualfragile there are people out there not using the latest git 21:53 iqualfragile (linux people) 21:54 leo_rockway fair enough 21:55 bulletrulz my charger is starting to brake noooooooooo!!! 21:55 marktraceur bulletrulz: So accelerate again! Jeez, it's not the end of the world to lose velocity. 21:57 bulletrulz marktraceur, no i mean its a mess up in the cord itself 21:57 marktraceur bulletrulz: What, your brake lines were cut? That's pretty serious, man. 21:59 bulletrulz marktraceur, i know but cords for it ar eonly like 30$ 21:59 leo_rockway mmhhh... yeah, the tutorial I saw uses detector rails 21:59 leo_rockway there's no such thing in mesecons? 22:00 marktraceur bulletrulz: Yeah, just don't drive anywhere for a while, that's dangerous. 22:02 bulletrulz marktraceur, not in a car on my laptop charger lol 22:02 marktraceur bulletrulz: Wait, what about your laptop charger is braking? 22:03 marktraceur bulletrulz: It seems like its normal state is at rest, it seems counter-intuitive to put brakes on such a thing. 22:04 VanessaE maybe he keeps sliding it across the floor? 22:04 marktraceur VanessaE: That might do it, but even then, friction would be enough of an opposition that it wouldn't do any damage to the charger. Besides, he wouldn't be able to control the charger if he gave it enough velocity to slide and then let go.... 22:06 VanessaE lol 22:06 * marktraceur sighs, kids these days 22:08 leo_rockway marktraceur: oh, give him a brake! 22:08 leo_rockway geez 22:09 marktraceur leo_rockway: Oh, I'll give him a brake all right 22:11 khonkhortisan server freeze? 22:17 kaeza hey guys 22:21 marktraceur kaeza: Bye! 22:27 kaeza hello 22:28 marktraceur kaeza: Welcome back! 22:28 VanessaE hey kaeza 22:28 kaeza hi mark! 22:28 kaeza hi V 22:28 kaeza anything new? 22:28 VanessaE you missed the test server :-) 22:29 kaeza oohh 22:29 kaeza new commit? 22:29 VanessaE same IP, port 30001. 22:29 VanessaE it runs c55's "congestion_setting" branch 22:29 VanessaE clear your cache first, then try it. 22:29 VanessaE see if it works better than the one on 30000 22:29 VanessaE but don't build anything serious there, that world will be deleted soon. 22:30 Renoki I think I'll play some Minetest 22:31 Kacey hello 22:32 kaeza VanessaE: you will like this: http://minecraft.novaskin.me/ 22:32 kaeza I'm gonna try connecting 22:32 VanessaE nice editor 22:33 leo_rockway what's "congestion_setting"? 22:33 kaeza hey Kacey 22:34 Kacey im in school lol 22:34 VanessaE leo_rockway: a test to see if we can improve bandwidth without a major recode of the network stack basicallt :-) 22:34 VanessaE basically* 22:34 kaeza Kacey: shoudn't you be "studying" 22:34 kaeza ? 22:35 Kacey no there was a technology test 22:35 kaeza good 22:35 leo_rockway VanessaE: is it passing the tests? 22:35 Kacey only ten minutes till the end of school 22:35 kaeza k 22:36 kaeza lol 22:36 VanessaE leo_rockway: not yet. 22:36 VanessaE kaeza: so... clear your ~/.minetest/cache and sign on already, port 30001 22:36 VanessaE :-) 22:36 kaeza VanessaE: now connecting @ 34% 22:36 VanessaE ah, so you are :-) 22:36 kaeza yeah 22:36 VanessaE how's it behaving for you now? 22:37 kaeza just a few minutes and I'm in 22:37 VanessaE I mean the media download 22:37 Kacey still need to compile it 22:37 VanessaE Kacey: get the very very very latest git when you do. 22:38 Kacey there is a new one?!?!?!?! 22:38 kaeza 50% now 22:38 kaeza quite fast 22:38 kaeza at least faster than yesterday/today earlier 22:38 VanessaE like, fetch from git right before you start compiling. anything more than about 12-18 hours ago is too old :D 22:38 leo_rockway VanessaE: just latest master or some other branch? 22:38 VanessaE leo_rockway: latest master is fine. 22:38 VanessaE the congestion_setting branch is only for the server end I guess 22:38 leo_rockway I have a speed hack, though :S 22:38 leo_rockway I'd have to disable that 22:38 kaeza you still have a minetest from 12 hours ago? so oldschool :) 22:38 leo_rockway I had just compiled it too 22:39 VanessaE kaeza: haha 22:39 leo_rockway I run a script that pulls from git nightly. If there are changes, it builds. 22:39 kaeza 80% for me. almost there 22:39 VanessaE kaeza: that's at least an order of magnitude faster for you, isn't it? 22:40 kaeza yup. a record of 3 minutes 22:40 Renoki meh.. 22:40 kaeza previously this was like half an hour 22:40 VanessaE kaeza: that's consistent with what I'd expect given the size of the media being downloaded. 22:40 leo_rockway what's the default walkspeed_max? 4? 22:40 Renoki playing this makes me think "Why don't I just play Minecraft instead?" 22:40 kaeza i'm in 22:40 Uberi anyone know why the flatland mod is so SLOOOW? 22:41 Kacey 5 more minutes 22:41 Renoki any servers I can join? 22:41 VanessaE no idea uberi 22:41 Uberi I wrote my own that only generates a 1 block thick ground 22:41 Uberi but even that is slow 22:41 VanessaE celeron55: you seeing this? some users ARE seeing an improvement with that branch in place on the server. 22:41 Uberi TCP blocks? 22:42 * leo_rockway builds without speed hack 22:42 leo_rockway oh, new shaders branch! 22:42 * leo_rockway likes 22:43 leo_rockway what's the IP and port? 22:43 VanessaE for the main server, 24.181.193.82 port 30000 22:43 leo_rockway for the one for the tests 22:43 VanessaE for the testing-only server, port 30001. 22:43 leo_rockway okay, I'm joining 30001 then 22:43 Uberi oh that shaders_v4 thing, I sure hope that works with my GPU 22:44 Renoki no server browser? :( 22:44 VanessaE not yet. 22:44 leo_rockway are the anti-cheat limitations going to be removed? 22:45 VanessaE anti-cheat is turned off on my servers. 22:45 VanessaE I hate it. :-) 22:45 leo_rockway me too 22:45 leo_rockway particularly since I cheat o.o 22:45 Renoki does anyone have a server I could join? 22:45 Uberi Renoki: try http://servers.minetest.ru/ 22:45 Renoki thanks 22:45 leo_rockway but I never play remote, always local 22:45 Uberi no problem :) 22:45 leo_rockway I disabled the cheat just now, to join 22:46 Uberi there ought to be a good Mesecons build server around 22:46 leo_rockway I'm downloading 1% of media per second 22:46 VanessaE that's good 22:46 VanessaE 1%/second is about what I'd expect. 22:46 leo_rockway 100%, now black screen 22:46 VanessaE that's less than 2 minutes to sign-on versus 20-30 :D 22:46 Uberi I was building a piston airship today and was thinking about how awesome it would be in PvP 22:49 VanessaE celeron55: as long as it won't cause a regression, I recommend merging congestion_setting to master. It's a definite improvement. 23:03 Uberi ah 23:08 marktraceur So I asked earlier, don't think I got an answer....is the 3D player + carts branch looking to be merged soon? 23:08 VanessaE 3d players already are. 23:08 VanessaE 0.4.4 has those. 23:08 NakedFury I thought it already was 23:08 VanessaE carts is a separate mod. 23:08 marktraceur VanessaE: Wait, is 0.4.4 released? 23:08 Uberi 3d models was merged today, IIRC 23:09 VanessaE marktraceur: only via github sources like usual 23:09 VanessaE Uberi: yesterday 23:09 Uberi VanessaE: ah OK 23:09 * marktraceur is shocked, but happy 23:09 * Uberi still has no sense of time 23:09 marktraceur VanessaE: Where do the player textures come from, the server? 23:09 VanessaE marktraceur: I've got two servers running right now (one main, one testing the congestion branch). both 0.4.4 nearly-latest, both with 3d models and carts. 23:09 VanessaE from the server, yes. 23:10 marktraceur K. 23:10 VanessaE I have the player_textures mod, so several people have their own skins :-) 23:10 marktraceur I think I need to wait for a Windows build before I update my server, and I spend too much time on that server to switch to a new one :P 23:10 VanessaE heh 23:10 VanessaE chickenshit :D 23:12 marktraceur VanessaE: That implies that I'm somehow afraid to change servers...it's not that, but I'd rather forward the existing efforts on one server than start new projects elsewhere! 23:12 VanessaE fair enough :-) 23:12 Renoki so uh 23:13 Renoki will Minetest copy Minecraft exactly or do their own thing in future updates? 23:14 Uberi well it's never really copied minecraft much 23:14 NakedFury you are talking about the player models? 23:14 VanessaE do their own thin, definitely. 23:14 VanessaE but for now, some stuff is similar to minecraft almost out of necessity 23:14 VanessaE player models being the same means we now have a large selection of skins 23:15 VanessaE but new models are possible 23:15 marktraceur Renoki: The thing is, there are so many opportunities to change the game through mods that saying it's a copy is just a matter of what mod pack you're using. 23:15 Renoki heh, true 23:15 Taoki VanessaE: Is your server up and running again? Curious to see my patches to the model from yesterday in practice 23:16 Renoki what I mostly mean is gameplay 23:16 leo_rockway I wouldn't like to see enchantment tables... 23:16 VanessaE Taoki: indeed it is. 23:16 Renoki like fighting, the combat in Minecraft is horrible. 23:16 Taoki awesome, willt ry to login 23:16 kaeza marktraceur I'm trying to compile a windows version right now 23:16 Renoki I'm hoping for better combat in Minetest 23:16 leo_rockway Renoki: minetest is an engine, so different people can have different mods and different ames 23:16 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 ports 30000 (main) and 30001 (testing only) 23:16 leo_rockway the win version was compiled, search the forum 23:16 VanessaE Renoki: mobs. we have those. 23:16 Renoki BRB 23:16 marktraceur kaeza: I'll need an officially hosted one 23:17 kaeza t you afraid of virus? 23:17 Taoki VanessaE: says it couldn't resolve address 23:17 VanessaE eh? 23:17 Taoki VanessaE: When I try to connect to your IP, MineTest says it couldn't resolve the address 23:18 VanessaE leo's on the 30001 server right now? 23:18 Taoki 24.181.193.82:30001 right? 23:18 kaeza marktraceur: I'm crosscompiling from linux to mingw32, using only official builds of the depends 23:18 VanessaE yes,. 23:18 leo_rockway I am 23:18 marktraceur kaeza: No, but I don't want to point people to http://randomfuckingdownloadsite.com for the download 23:18 Taoki this is weird, wonder why it does that 23:18 VanessaE taoki: typo? 23:18 * marktraceur calls dibs on that domain 23:19 kaeza marktraceur: I use dropbox download it when it's up to test it and i'll ask the admins later to make it in official 23:20 marktraceur kaeza: Yeah, Dropbox would be worse. 23:20 VanessaE Taoki: kaeza is on 30001 also, and khonkhortisan is connected over on 30000 23:20 marktraceur kaeza: This is for the upcoming FSF-hosted server. 23:21 leo_rockway the fsf will host a server? 23:21 kaeza marktraceur: I'm trying to put my 2 cents 23:21 marktraceur leo_rockway: Yes, soon 23:21 leo_rockway marktraceur: nice! 23:21 VanessaE marktraceur: when sfan5 makes his next build, use that. that's as official as it gets without getting outdated :-) 23:22 marktraceur VanessaE: Well, there are builds on minetest.net, I figure I'll wait for that. 23:22 VanessaE marktraceur: I don't think they'll be kept up-to-date there. 23:22 marktraceur Hrm. 23:22 VanessaE *shrug* 23:22 * marktraceur dislikes that idea 23:23 Uberi I sure hope those get updated 23:23 leo_rockway marktraceur: http://leorockway.com.ar/gnu+linux.png 23:23 marktraceur celeron55: Can you at least host sfan5's builds on minetest.net so it's not annoyingly unofficial when getting Windows downloads? 23:23 leo_rockway marktraceur: I never got to finish the gnu... 23:23 leo_rockway IDK who did the Tux. 23:23 VanessaE leo_rockway: cute :-) 23:23 leo_rockway VanessaE: :D 23:24 marktraceur leo_rockway: Pretty great! 23:24 Taoki yeah was a typo lol, connectong now 23:25 leo_rockway that screenshots seems to be 1 year old 23:26 kaeza Taoki were you Mitsea something 23:27 Taoki MirceaKitsune :) 23:27 kaeza1 back 23:27 kaeza1 sorry, modem again 23:28 VanessaE oops :-) 23:28 kaeza1 Taoki were you Mitsea something? 23:29 Taoki kaeza1: MirceaKitsune 23:29 Taoki Miss Tea... that's a nick I haven't thought of :P 23:29 kaeza1 yes typo 23:30 marktraceur Taoki: We'd need to give you a Pokemon-themed texture, then 23:30 kaeza1 Taoki: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1143900835.jpg 23:30 Taoki Please give me a pony model and texture if possible :) 23:30 Taoki kaeza1: Looks nice! 23:30 marktraceur Taoki: No, Misty! You would be Misty. 23:31 Taoki that works too 23:32 kaeza VanessaE: crash on F10 LOL 23:32 VanessaE heh 23:32 kaeza first time though 23:35 NakedFury it never happens to me 23:36 Uberi worldediting in 40000 nodes is taking a while... 23:38 VanessaE it'll do that alright 23:40 NakedFury something like that broke the server when I did 23:40 NakedFury it 23:40 Taoki BTW, wanted to mention something else. Since the models code is in, vehicles should theoretically be possible too 23:40 Taoki You can create a LUA entity, attach a player to it as the driver, then read his key input (RBA's patch) to acccelerate and steer that entity 23:41 kaeza is RBA's patch in master? 23:41 Taoki Note that it would be laggy, since it's not local movement. Client sends pressed key to server, server updates movement and sennds that update to clients 23:41 kaeza or a different branch? 23:41 Taoki Sure, with models 23:41 kaeza bbiab 23:42 VanessaE sweet\ 23:43 kaeza back 23:53 kaeza F*CK crash on chat 23:53 VanessaE dammit 23:53 VanessaE kaeza: wrong port :) 23:53 VanessaE you went to 30000 that time :D 23:54 NakedFury hey talking about chat, I have noticed that I cant click anything that is covered by chat 23:54 kaeza oh it got reset after the crash :) 23:54 kaeza ok now 23:55 kaeza NakedFury: that happens 23:55 kaeza just hide chat with F2