Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
ecube |
ohh, nice |
00:00 |
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00:01 |
kaeza |
this is after removing a single node: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1058913431.png |
00:03 |
ecube |
;) |
00:07 |
khonkhortisan |
sand does that on redcrab |
00:09 |
jin_xi |
VanessaE: skin changing works here |
00:11 |
jin_xi |
http://pastebin.com/jdq1a9sX used this chat command in player.lua and a modified skin |
00:11 |
jin_xi |
it changes it for all players atm |
00:11 |
jin_xi |
but that is fixable |
00:11 |
VanessaE |
oh good |
00:12 |
VanessaE |
let's make sure it's compatible with the naming scheme used by player_textures |
00:12 |
VanessaE |
this is looking really food. |
00:12 |
VanessaE |
good. |
00:13 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
00:16 |
kaeza |
heh V you still hungry? |
00:16 |
kaeza |
:D |
00:16 |
kaeza |
where do I put that code? |
00:16 |
kaeza |
oh nevermind |
00:18 |
jin_xi |
you probably should not put it anywhere... |
00:18 |
jin_xi |
its just a test case |
00:20 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: nope, not even :-) |
00:22 |
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00:23 |
VanessaE |
kaeza1: not even close to hungry now :-) |
00:23 |
kaeza1 |
<VanessaE>this is looking really food |
00:23 |
kaeza1 |
lol |
00:23 |
VanessaE |
lol |
00:24 |
kaeza1 |
hmm... https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1060658419.jpg |
00:24 |
VanessaE |
Freudian slip? ;) |
00:24 |
kaeza1 |
right :P |
00:24 |
VanessaE |
kaeza1: challenge accepted? :-) |
00:24 |
kaeza1 |
you bet |
00:24 |
kaeza1 |
just a moment please... |
00:27 |
kaeza1 |
LOL https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1061036812.jpg |
00:27 |
iqualfragile |
well, i guess its great to have an 3D-Model for the player now |
00:28 |
iqualfragile |
i hope that the Animal-mods will use some, too |
00:28 |
kaeza1 |
iqualfragile: agreed |
00:30 |
VanessaE |
there, my server is now at the very latest git commit. |
00:30 |
kaeza |
was there a new commit? |
00:30 |
VanessaE |
just some minor stuff, new glass breaking sound |
00:30 |
VanessaE |
nothing major |
00:31 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: I'm going to wait on your branch until you and c55 push it to main so I don't have to maintain two servers :-) |
00:31 |
VanessaE |
(translation: I get lost easily) |
00:32 |
jin_xi |
meanwhile: http://www.sea-of-memes.com/LetsCode72/LetsCode72.html |
00:33 |
kaeza |
8O |
00:38 |
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00:47 |
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00:48 |
VanessaE |
there, fine. If f10 is gonna crash I'll make my own chat history. tail -f ~/.minetest/debug.txt|grep -i chat |
00:48 |
kaeza |
cool cave entrance https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1062266507.jpg |
00:48 |
kaeza |
how is f10 crashing? |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
segfault I guess. |
00:49 |
VanessaE |
celeron55 blames it on irrlicht |
00:49 |
kaeza |
it's not crashing for me |
00:49 |
kaeza |
weird |
00:51 |
VanessaE |
in linux the F10 console is very unstable |
00:51 |
VanessaE |
crashes about 8/10 times. |
00:52 |
kaeza |
I've hit f10 like 200 times and nothing is happening |
00:52 |
kaeza |
I mean, it just shows the chat window |
00:52 |
VanessaE |
huh. |
00:52 |
VanessaE |
windows? |
00:52 |
kaeza |
console* |
00:52 |
kaeza |
whatever |
00:52 |
kaeza |
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/mt-chat-window.jpg |
00:53 |
VanessaE |
Hm. ubuntu. wonder why it's so stable for you but breaks for everyone else to often? |
00:54 |
kaeza |
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that on some OSes F10 is the key to bring the menu? |
00:55 |
VanessaE |
beats me. |
00:56 |
kaeza |
It happened on my old PC with an NVidia card that stealing the focus to an app at almost the same time the app goes fullscreen crashed the entire system |
00:56 |
VanessaE |
for me, MT will crash if I take focus away from it at the wrong moment. |
00:56 |
VanessaE |
(ATI gfx here) |
00:57 |
kaeza |
I'm using Intel i965 (I think) |
00:57 |
VanessaE |
therre's a window of crash risk toward the end of the "loading media" screen, from there till a few seconds into the black screen that follows. |
00:57 |
iqualfragile |
i have never had any kind of problem with f10 either |
00:57 |
VanessaE |
if I take focus from the MT window during that time, and I'm going onto a server at the time, it'll crash at the moment it's supposed to switch to the black screen |
00:59 |
kaeza |
now that you mention it, it did for me a few times |
01:00 |
kaeza |
the crash on the black screen |
01:00 |
VanessaE |
yup |
01:01 |
VanessaE |
on that topic, I really *really* wish someone would push an update to the client to let us see the textures being rendered like some windows users get to see. at least that's some kind of activity. |
01:01 |
kaeza |
+1000 |
01:03 |
VanessaE |
where "us" of course means "us linux obessives :D" |
01:04 |
kaeza |
it seems windows has impressive gfx capabilities http://osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/can-your-mac-do-this.jpg |
01:04 |
kaeza |
:D |
01:05 |
iqualfragile |
sea of memes is getting quite interesting recently |
01:05 |
Octupus |
lalala im griefing :) |
01:06 |
iqualfragile |
vanessae: do you referr to the litle block on the lover left hand corner at loading-time? |
01:07 |
VanessaE |
iqualfragile: I guess so, I never see it since I'm in linux. |
01:07 |
VanessaE |
but most win users see it as a side effect of something irrlicht does |
01:07 |
iqualfragile |
its not because you are on linux |
01:07 |
iqualfragile |
im on linux, too and i do see that one |
01:08 |
iqualfragile |
well, actualy its more like a reskinned windows vista |
01:08 |
VanessaE |
I never see it. |
01:09 |
Octupus |
Landmine if u are here dont die on the griefing server KAY |
01:09 |
Octupus |
because u will never get out :D |
01:09 |
iqualfragile |
night guys |
01:10 |
VanessaE |
night iqualfragile |
01:10 |
kaeza |
hight |
01:10 |
kaeza |
night* |
01:10 |
Octupus |
night iqualfragile |
01:10 |
kaeza |
Hey octo, where are you playing? |
01:11 |
Octupus |
a griefing server |
01:11 |
Octupus |
u want the ip |
01:11 |
kaeza |
sounds fun |
01:12 |
Octupus |
u can be on my clan |
01:12 |
kaeza |
yes please |
01:12 |
Octupus |
i griefed $ houses today |
01:12 |
Octupus |
4 |
01:12 |
kaeza |
$ houses? lol |
01:12 |
kaeza |
for me that's 0 houses |
01:12 |
kaeza |
i.e: $ == 0 |
01:12 |
kaeza |
IP plz |
01:14 |
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01:23 |
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01:26 |
* OldCoder |
is on a short break |
01:30 |
Octupus |
ok i done with griefing that server for awhile |
01:31 |
Octupus |
gtg bye guys |
01:41 |
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01:41 |
VanessaE |
wb |
01:41 |
kaeza |
thx :) |
01:41 |
kaeza |
missed anything? |
01:41 |
VanessaE |
nope |
01:42 |
kaeza |
I just been playing on Octupus server' and it happens the same as in your server |
01:43 |
VanessaE |
well at least it isn't unique to me :-) |
01:43 |
kaeza |
maybe it's me |
01:43 |
VanessaE |
the old server at minetest.ru:30001 or whatever it was, was laggy as hell too, and it had anti-cheat enabled |
01:43 |
kaeza |
hm.. |
01:44 |
kaeza |
Is ping a reliable command? |
01:45 |
VanessaE |
usually. |
01:45 |
kaeza |
just testing something |
01:45 |
VanessaE |
reliable enough to get some idea of the latency of a connection |
01:45 |
VanessaE |
(or whether or not it's live) |
01:45 |
kaeza |
your server is up? |
01:45 |
kaeza |
gonna try if it works |
01:45 |
VanessaE |
it is up, yes |
01:45 |
VanessaE |
lemme sign in |
01:46 |
VanessaE |
ok, I'm on. |
01:46 |
kaeza |
wait |
01:46 |
kaeza |
what was your ip again? |
01:47 |
VanessaE |
24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
01:48 |
kaeza |
~/Descargas/celeron55-minetest-4fa4340$ ping 24.181.193.82 |
01:48 |
kaeza |
PING 24.181.193.82 (24.181.193.82) 56(84) bytes of data. |
01:48 |
kaeza |
64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=1 ttl=49 time=587 ms |
01:48 |
kaeza |
64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=2 ttl=49 time=296 ms |
01:48 |
kaeza |
64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=3 ttl=49 time=556 ms |
01:48 |
kaeza |
64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=4 ttl=49 time=555 ms |
01:48 |
kaeza |
64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=5 ttl=49 time=1025 ms18 packets transmitted, 17 received, 5% packet loss, time 17016ms |
01:48 |
kaeza |
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 279.757/769.761/1847.494/432.312 ms, pipe 2 |
01:48 |
VanessaE |
OUCH |
01:49 |
kaeza |
this is bad |
01:49 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: you seeing this? |
01:51 |
kaeza |
does that help at all? |
01:52 |
VanessaE |
how the hell am I supposed to fix THAT? |
01:53 |
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01:56 |
kaeza |
oh well. I guess I'll have to play locally :( |
01:56 |
kaeza |
It's not your fault V |
01:57 |
VanessaE |
I know |
01:57 |
kaeza |
It's just my crappy ISP |
01:57 |
VanessaE |
yeah but if you can fetch a web page at a decent rate, I should be able to serve minetest data at a good rate too |
01:57 |
VanessaE |
to you anyway |
01:58 |
kaeza |
IDK, today I had to wait 10 secs for Facebook to load |
01:58 |
VanessaE |
yeah well that's facebook ;) |
01:58 |
kaeza |
yeah :) |
01:58 |
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01:58 |
kaeza |
I guess |
01:58 |
Kacey |
hello |
01:58 |
kaeza |
hey Kacey |
01:58 |
Kacey |
hows it going |
01:59 |
kaeza |
fine |
01:59 |
kaeza |
how's the nuclear disaster map going? |
01:59 |
Kacey |
well today during school, i decided to write down a mod |
01:59 |
kaeza |
cool |
01:59 |
Kacey |
ooh it became an adventure map and it is on my other computer |
02:01 |
Kacey |
writing the time mod so partial afk |
02:02 |
kaeza |
LOL I'm the time travel master: 64 bytes from 24.181.193.82: icmp_req=4 ttl=49 time=-1 ms |
02:02 |
VanessaE |
lol |
02:02 |
Kacey |
wow |
02:02 |
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02:02 |
VanessaE |
neko |
02:02 |
kaeza |
does that mean i got the packet before i sent the request? |
02:03 |
kaeza |
hey neko |
02:03 |
NekoGloop |
What do you want? |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: more likely somewhere along the way the packet got munged :-) |
02:03 |
kaeza |
O_o |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: um.. hi? :-) |
02:03 |
Kacey |
lol i get that all the time on my phone |
02:03 |
NekoGloop |
Was there someone asking for me or something? |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
not that I saw? |
02:04 |
Kacey |
nope |
02:04 |
kaeza |
nope |
02:04 |
kaeza |
<NekoGloop> FOREVER ALONE! |
02:04 |
VanessaE |
neko: minetest 0.4.4, 24.181.193.82, port 30000 - give me a skin to use for you and sign on when I say, and get busy building :D |
02:04 |
Kacey |
0.4.4? all ready?!?! |
02:04 |
NekoGloop |
I'd still have to scrounge up 0.44 |
02:04 |
NekoGloop |
0.4.4* |
02:04 |
kaeza |
yup |
02:05 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: yep. released yesterday, some bugfixes added today. |
02:05 |
kaeza |
with 3D players YAY! |
02:05 |
Kacey |
where do i download this magical version? |
02:05 |
kaeza |
compile |
02:05 |
kaeza |
:) |
02:05 |
Kacey |
3D PLAYERS!!!!!! |
02:05 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: from sources. :-) |
02:05 |
Kacey |
i cannot compile on windows |
02:05 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master |
02:05 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commits/master |
02:05 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: Nothin' like a mistab. |
02:06 |
VanessaE |
meh |
02:06 |
VanessaE |
click on "code" :-0 |
02:06 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
02:06 |
Kacey |
ooh wait i have a vm for compiling |
02:06 |
kaeza |
I don't know if it can be cross-compiled from my machine, but if I could I'd do it for you |
02:06 |
Kacey |
teamviewer |
02:06 |
NekoGloop |
Teamviewer is crap. |
02:07 |
Kacey |
but it works for compiling noobs |
02:07 |
VanessaE |
or just wait a couple of days |
02:07 |
Kacey |
like me |
02:07 |
kaeza |
listen to NekoGloop |
02:07 |
kaeza |
he's tha man |
02:07 |
VanessaE |
3d players' hats have been implemented and will be pushed to master ^^^^ soon. |
02:07 |
kaeza |
umm... or woman? |
02:07 |
NekoGloop |
Try nekoshounen; catboy. :3 |
02:07 |
Kacey |
a couple of days?!?!?!?!?! O.o that is like a month in teenager years |
02:08 |
kaeza |
lol |
02:08 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: well if you don't give a shit about players' hats, grab the sources now :D |
02:08 |
kaeza |
Kacey: try VirtualBox |
02:08 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: I'd rather wait. |
02:08 |
Kacey |
i have a vm but that is linux and it doesnt transfer |
02:08 |
kaeza |
or if you feel a bit lucky, DL a linux distro and setup a dual-boot system |
02:08 |
Kacey |
back to windows |
02:10 |
kaeza |
I have a cross compiler Linux -> MinGW32 |
02:10 |
OldCoder |
Windows is Sindows :p |
02:10 |
kaeza |
Shitdows :) |
02:10 |
Kacey |
well i didnt choose my os |
02:11 |
Kacey |
winshit |
02:11 |
kaeza |
that is your RIGHT |
02:11 |
NekoGloop |
Shitnix. |
02:11 |
Kacey |
not really i didnt choose my computer |
02:11 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, sorry; I didn't mean to start that |
02:11 |
kaeza |
wat |
02:11 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Kacey Leave Windows alone; I shouldn't have started that |
02:11 |
OldCoder |
To each their own |
02:11 |
kaeza |
k J&K |
02:11 |
kaeza |
J/K |
02:11 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
02:12 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, I just dropped back in |
02:12 |
NekoGloop |
If i want what i paid for, then let me have it. |
02:12 |
OldCoder |
What problem are you having? |
02:12 |
Kacey |
oldcoder can you teach me how to compile with MinGW? |
02:12 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, I agree |
02:12 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, Yes |
02:12 |
OldCoder |
I can |
02:12 |
Kacey |
k pm please |
02:12 |
OldCoder |
I can provide scripts etc. |
02:12 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, No need |
02:12 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, I am unable to do much for a while longer |
02:12 |
NekoGloop |
Such as the technic pack for minecraft. |
02:13 |
Kacey |
ooh ok well let me finish this tool and get the latest version of minetest |
02:13 |
OldCoder |
I expect to straighten things out and post everything |
02:13 |
NekoGloop |
If i paid for minecraft, i have every right to use its modifications as well. |
02:13 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: +1 |
02:13 |
Kacey |
same ^ |
02:14 |
* NekoGloop |
shuffles his deck of +1's |
02:14 |
* kaeza |
has lol'd |
02:14 |
* Kacey |
shuffles across the floor to lmfao |
02:15 |
NekoGloop |
Seriously, i just utter a pearl of wisdom in #minecraft and i get +10000000 :3 |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
02:15 |
Kacey |
lol same in the school for me |
02:15 |
OldCoder |
That is a big number |
02:15 |
NekoGloop |
Yeup. |
02:15 |
kaeza |
hey! I just told a n008 how to start a program on Y! answers and got best answer |
02:16 |
Kacey |
lol |
02:16 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: Achievement Unlocked - you receive 1000 internets. |
02:16 |
VanessaE |
:D |
02:16 |
Kacey |
what do i download? i see WAY too many things here |
02:16 |
* kaeza |
welcomes all to the Internet, where people know how to chat but don't know how to start a F*CKING program |
02:16 |
Kacey |
lolz |
02:17 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: thanks :) |
02:17 |
Kacey |
is it bump version to 0.4.4 or something like that? |
02:17 |
NekoGloop |
Off-topic: i just made a jetpack in minecraft technic woot! |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: it was. but there are more commits after that. |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: the latest just past 0.4.4 has several bug fixes. |
02:18 |
Kacey |
so what do i download |
02:18 |
NekoGloop |
Jetpack + portalgun mod's long fall boots = wheee~~ |
02:18 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: any chance to get this to MT? |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: nothing. you don't know how to handle compiling from github, so better you should wait for someone to package latest git for you. |
02:18 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: I mean ingame, i dont know a lick of java and my lua skills suck. |
02:19 |
kaeza |
hm... |
02:19 |
kaeza |
It would be cool to see this |
02:19 |
NekoGloop |
We'd need equipment first likely. |
02:19 |
Kacey |
i can compile with oldcoder's help but i need to know what to download |
02:19 |
kaeza |
for servers that don't allow free move |
02:20 |
kaeza |
Kacey: go to the main github page |
02:20 |
NakedFury |
ill wait for oldcoders compiled version |
02:20 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: fetch the very latest sources from https://github.com/celeron55/minetest and https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game |
02:20 |
kaeza |
what was it again? |
02:20 |
VanessaE |
compile them. |
02:20 |
kaeza |
yep that is |
02:20 |
kaeza |
and hit the "ZIP" button at the top of the file list |
02:20 |
NakedFury |
do we have 3d armor for characters already? |
02:20 |
Kacey |
what file of them do i download?!?! |
02:21 |
Kacey |
ok found it |
02:21 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: No. |
02:21 |
kaeza |
ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME? |
02:21 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: no, but we have good 3d players that use minecraft skins :-) |
02:21 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: stop. |
02:21 |
NekoGloop |
The headwear from the minecraft skin format is implemented. |
02:21 |
Kacey |
i found it |
02:21 |
kaeza |
Kacey: go to https://github.com/celeron55/minetest in your browser, and hit the "ZIP" button! |
02:21 |
NakedFury |
ok. so minetest is going with minecraft models for good or just as placeholder for now? |
02:21 |
kaeza |
oh nevermind |
02:21 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: read this IN DETAIL. https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L78 |
02:22 |
kaeza |
this ^ |
02:22 |
OldCoder |
R |
02:22 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, I may be able to start over with all of this around December 1 |
02:22 |
Kacey |
start over? |
02:23 |
OldCoder |
Not bad |
02:23 |
OldCoder |
Catch up |
02:23 |
OldCoder |
If that sounds better |
02:23 |
Kacey |
ooh |
02:23 |
OldCoder |
Things have gotten a bit crazy recently |
02:23 |
Kacey |
lol |
02:23 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
02:23 |
OldCoder |
O_o :p |
02:24 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Umd-2moT3Y |
02:24 |
Kacey |
ooh boy this cold be bad... |
02:24 |
NakedFury |
OldCoder no problem, we can wait |
02:25 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, ty |
02:25 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, sorry to hear it |
02:27 |
kaeza |
can somebody please post a link to a precompiled Irrlicht package for MinGW32? |
02:28 |
kaeza |
oh found it! |
02:29 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: you can build against irrlicht source also |
02:29 |
kaeza |
yes |
02:29 |
VanessaE |
I did that once under Ubuntu Intrepid |
02:29 |
kaeza |
i'm currently DL'gin |
02:29 |
VanessaE |
(as a test) |
02:29 |
kaeza |
ing* |
02:30 |
kaeza |
I have cross-compilation support in my game, Legend of Cosmo |
02:30 |
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02:30 |
kaeza |
out of the box |
02:30 |
Kacey_ |
sorry computer went stupid |
02:30 |
kaeza |
lol |
02:30 |
kaeza |
there you go |
02:31 |
kaeza |
:) |
02:31 |
Kacey |
well that sucke |
02:31 |
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02:31 |
kaeza |
WOW I think I'll take a look at this Irrlicht thing |
02:31 |
Kacey |
heey |
02:31 |
aggies |
sup |
02:31 |
kaeza |
seems fun :) |
02:31 |
kaeza |
hi |
02:32 |
Kacey |
lol soooo much stuff today |
02:32 |
aggies |
who all is on |
02:32 |
Kacey |
this is aggies, my brother |
02:32 |
Kacey |
look on the left side |
02:32 |
* Kacey |
slaps aggies with a rainbow trout |
02:32 |
kaeza |
I suck at 3D coding |
02:33 |
Kacey |
lolz |
02:33 |
kaeza |
trigonometry and such things |
02:33 |
Kacey |
lolz |
02:33 |
* aggies |
slap Kacey in the face with globe |
02:33 |
Kacey |
downloading minetest_game now |
02:33 |
* Kacey |
slaps aggies with a big red brick |
02:33 |
Kacey |
i have a slap button |
02:34 |
* NekoGloop |
slaps NekoGloop-- owie. |
02:34 |
* kaeza |
slaps both Kacey and aggies |
02:34 |
Kacey |
i hate when that happens lol |
02:34 |
* aggies |
slaps Kacey in the face with the world |
02:34 |
* Kacey |
ducks |
02:34 |
* aggies |
jumps |
02:34 |
kaeza |
YAY! slapwar! |
02:35 |
* Kacey |
slaps kaeza with a rainbow trout |
02:35 |
Kacey |
i win |
02:35 |
* aggies |
slaps Kacey with his laptop |
02:35 |
* Kacey |
slaps aggies with Bill Gates' wallet |
02:35 |
* kaeza |
takes out a BFG9000: you're all fucked |
02:35 |
* VanessaE |
clobbers Kacey over the head with a 30kg soaking-wet Programmer's Reference Guide for Linux Super-Geeks |
02:35 |
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02:36 |
* Kacey |
slaps VanessaE with the Microsoft user guide |
02:36 |
* aggies |
slaps Kacey with an atom bomb |
02:36 |
VanessaE |
oh wow, one whole page :-) |
02:36 |
Kacey |
lol not this one |
02:36 |
VanessaE |
(which reads "Point and drool." ) |
02:36 |
* VanessaE |
ducks |
02:36 |
Kacey |
thickest book i have ever seen |
02:36 |
* kaeza |
is questioning if there can be a 30KG book for Linux, since all books are at least 50KG |
02:37 |
* sokomine |
showes everyone fighting into one of the arenas to make some young players who like to fight happy :-) |
02:37 |
* aggies |
jumps onto Kacey and brings him down |
02:37 |
* Kacey |
slaps kaeza with the Wrld Dictionary |
02:37 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: Nope. |
02:37 |
NekoGloop |
It reads "Bing it" |
02:37 |
sokomine |
oh no! the microsoft user guide is a violation of the geneve convention! |
02:37 |
Kacey |
wow that failed it was supposed to say World |
02:37 |
* aggies |
slaps kaeza with steve hawkings wheelchair |
02:38 |
* kaeza |
takes the chair: WHEEE! |
02:38 |
* Kacey |
hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK |
02:38 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: oh, right. |
02:39 |
* aggies |
throws NekoGloop to the moon |
02:39 |
NekoGloop |
Spaaaaaaaaaaccccccceeeeeeee!!!!!!!! |
02:39 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: lol |
02:39 |
NekoGloop |
/spacecore |
02:39 |
Kacey |
guess how long it took aggies to come up with that |
02:40 |
* aggies |
took a couple of seconds i was afk for a min |
02:40 |
Kacey |
/me hits everybody with SPELL-CHECK |
02:40 |
* sokomine |
hopes that nekogloop builds a base on the moon |
02:40 |
aggies |
fail |
02:40 |
Kacey |
wtf?!?!?!?! |
02:40 |
* Kacey |
hits everybody with SPELL-CHECK |
02:40 |
kaeza |
Internet not working, Suggest help from the internet -- Scumbag MS Windows |
02:40 |
* NekoGloop |
spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccccccccccceeeee!!!!!!!!!!! |
02:40 |
Kacey |
aah un needed space |
02:40 |
* NekoGloop |
is now the portal 2 space core. |
02:41 |
* NekoGloop |
what have you done. |
02:41 |
* aggies |
throw kaeza to the heliosphere |
02:41 |
* Kacey |
is secretly Chuck Norris |
02:41 |
* aggies |
is secretly bruce lee |
02:42 |
* Kacey |
hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK |
02:42 |
kaeza |
Yeah, Bruce Lee kicked Chuck's ass HARD! |
02:42 |
Kacey |
until Bruce died |
02:42 |
NekoGloop |
... |
02:42 |
NekoGloop |
I'm in space... I'm in space... |
02:42 |
Kacey |
aggies: GET THE HINT!!!!! |
02:42 |
NekoGloop |
SPAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIICCCCEEEEE~~~~~~!!!!!!!!! |
02:43 |
Kacey |
anyone remember my bot? |
02:43 |
kaeza |
spaice? |
02:43 |
sokomine |
don't fall off the map :-) |
02:43 |
* aggies |
bring NekoGloop back to earth |
02:43 |
kaeza |
lol NekoGloop is at (0,32000,0) |
02:43 |
* NekoGloop |
feverishly mutters about space |
02:43 |
* aggies |
is on roof of house |
02:43 |
* Kacey |
hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK |
02:44 |
* aggies |
drive skidstere into haystack |
02:44 |
kaeza |
wat |
02:44 |
* Kacey |
hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK |
02:44 |
Kacey |
he can't spell |
02:45 |
* aggies |
hits Kacey in face with spell check |
02:45 |
* Kacey |
hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK |
02:45 |
Kacey |
and it annoys him |
02:45 |
* NekoGloop |
randomly shoots a portal above and at the feet of Kacey |
02:45 |
NekoGloop |
Infinite loop now! |
02:45 |
Kacey |
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! |
02:45 |
* aggies |
in SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEE |
02:45 |
NekoGloop |
aggies: :( |
02:45 |
* Kacey |
hits aggies with SPELL-CHECK |
02:46 |
Kacey |
OldCoder? |
02:46 |
* aggies |
says what |
02:46 |
* Kacey |
slaps aggies with a big red brick |
02:46 |
* aggies |
is a hobbit |
02:47 |
Kacey |
/me likes purple |
02:47 |
* sokomine |
waits until kacey hits three more times so that a brick block can be crafted |
02:47 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, All right |
02:47 |
kaeza |
Kacey: fail |
02:47 |
OldCoder |
Purple. Noted. |
02:47 |
Kacey |
lol |
02:47 |
OldCoder |
Hobbits are habits. |
02:47 |
* aggies |
like blue |
02:47 |
Kacey |
that didnt work like i wanted |
02:47 |
OldCoder |
No :-) |
02:47 |
Kacey |
ok how may i compile |
02:48 |
aggies |
hi OldCoder |
02:48 |
* Kacey |
stabs aggies |
02:48 |
* kaeza |
likes the green color of the Oranges (note I'm colorblind :P ) |
02:48 |
* aggies |
runs over Kacey |
02:48 |
Kacey |
ooh green oranges i love them |
02:48 |
* aggies |
loves green tomatoes |
02:48 |
* Kacey |
is made of Chevy |
02:49 |
* NekoGloop |
is made of little kitties |
02:49 |
* aggies |
is afk |
02:49 |
* kaeza |
politely requests Kacey and aggies to SHUT THE FUCK UP |
02:49 |
* Kacey |
pokes celeron55 to see if he is alive |
02:49 |
* Kacey |
notes the request |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
by now c55 is asleep |
02:50 |
VanessaE |
or I would assume so |
02:50 |
kaeza |
yeah |
02:50 |
Kacey |
i have never talked to him |
02:50 |
Kacey |
OldCoder how do i compile? |
02:50 |
Kacey |
using MinGW |
02:51 |
kaeza |
Kacey: I'm now crosscompiling |
02:51 |
Kacey |
? |
02:51 |
kaeza |
hope it works |
02:51 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, there are two ways |
02:51 |
Kacey |
well i want to compile my own |
02:51 |
OldCoder |
Start with a build script that C55 provides |
02:51 |
OldCoder |
That is how you start |
02:51 |
OldCoder |
Then tailor the script to your liking |
02:51 |
Kacey |
i have minetest -master |
02:52 |
OldCoder |
Or: Do the same thing starting with my code |
02:52 |
OldCoder |
That will be incompatible with most worlds |
02:52 |
* aggies |
is back |
02:52 |
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02:52 |
kaeza |
hey Tom____ |
02:52 |
Tom_____ |
Hey |
02:52 |
Kacey |
ooh im going to change code |
02:53 |
aggies |
wat code |
02:53 |
Kacey |
source code |
02:53 |
aggies |
which is |
02:53 |
Kacey |
what makes minetest |
02:53 |
aggies |
oooooo |
02:54 |
Kacey |
ya |
02:54 |
* aggies |
pokes Dogzilla131 to c if dead |
02:54 |
kaeza |
Kacey: I think you should have something similar to celeron-minetest-XXXXXX |
02:54 |
Kacey |
nvm on changing it |
02:55 |
Kacey |
i have the git pull |
02:55 |
Kacey |
alright OldCoder now what |
02:55 |
* Dogzilla131 |
wakes up and starts barking |
02:55 |
* aggies |
runs to get gun |
02:55 |
* kaeza |
pats Dogzilla331 |
02:55 |
* Dogzilla131 |
stop barking |
02:55 |
* Kacey |
stabs aggies |
02:56 |
Kacey |
(sw) |
02:56 |
* aggies |
shoots Kacey |
02:56 |
* Dogzilla131 |
happy with kaeza and begs for a treat |
02:56 |
* Kacey |
is immortal |
02:56 |
* Kacey |
jumps on Dogzilla131 and tries to ride him like a horse |
02:56 |
* aggies |
is also immortal |
02:56 |
* kaeza |
gives Dogzilla331 a shot of wine |
02:57 |
* Dogzilla131 |
turns to a dogzilla and tries to get aggie |
02:57 |
Kacey |
uugh i only have 3 more minutes |
02:57 |
Kacey |
where is OldCoder when i need him? |
02:57 |
* aggies |
try to give Dogzilla131 some food |
02:57 |
* Dogzilla131 |
eats it but carefully |
02:58 |
* Dogzilla131 |
looks at aggies |
02:58 |
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02:58 |
* kaeza |
is listening to I Wanna Rock and Roll All Night by Kiss |
02:58 |
* aggies |
tries to pet Dogzilla131 |
02:58 |
NekoGloop |
Meow? 3: |
02:58 |
Kacey |
that is a good song |
02:58 |
* Kacey |
pets NekoGloop |
02:58 |
* NekoGloop |
purrs :3 |
02:59 |
* Kacey |
picks up Neko |
02:59 |
* Dogzilla131 |
goes back to normal dog size and wags hes tail |
02:59 |
* aggies |
listens to gangham style |
02:59 |
* Dogzilla131 |
looks at NekoGloop, but he does not hate cats |
02:59 |
* aggies |
gives Dogzilla131 a bone |
03:00 |
* NekoGloop |
shys away from dogzilla and cuddles up to kacey who is holding him :3 |
03:00 |
* Kacey |
lets go of Neko and bicycle kicks him across the room |
03:00 |
NekoGloop |
D: |
03:00 |
Kacey |
i love doing that |
03:00 |
* aggies |
is lmfao |
03:00 |
* Kacey |
rubs his foot that now hurts from kicking Neko |
03:00 |
* Dogzilla131 |
is a transformer , he turns to a Golden Retriever |
03:00 |
Kacey |
i gtg bye |
03:01 |
Dogzilla131 |
bye |
03:01 |
* aggies |
gives Neko some food |
03:01 |
kaeza |
Kacey, aggies: Achievement Unlocked: Steal a channel for tthree pages |
03:01 |
* NekoGloop |
nibbles it |
03:01 |
* Dogzilla131 |
now turns to a Labrador Retriever |
03:01 |
* aggies |
pets Neko |
03:01 |
* Dogzilla131 |
turns to a chihuahua |
03:02 |
* NekoGloop |
purrs :3 |
03:02 |
* Dogzilla131 |
wants a pat |
03:02 |
* NekoGloop |
pets doggy~ :3 |
03:02 |
* kaeza |
is listening to We Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who |
03:02 |
* aggies |
dropskicks Dogzilla131 as chihuahua |
03:02 |
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03:02 |
kaeza |
hey RC |
03:02 |
VanessaE |
hey redcrab |
03:02 |
aggies |
sup redcrab |
03:03 |
kaeza |
V: I thought you were dead |
03:03 |
* aggies |
says who |
03:03 |
kaeza |
:( |
03:03 |
* aggies |
is afk |
03:05 |
* aggies |
is GATman |
03:05 |
VanessaE |
nope, just going slow now. |
03:05 |
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03:05 |
NekoGloop |
It's too hard to disconnect. Dammit. |
03:05 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: wat |
03:06 |
NekoGloop |
s/hard/easy/ |
03:06 |
kaeza |
oh |
03:07 |
VanessaE |
heh |
03:07 |
* aggies |
is secretly eminem |
03:08 |
* NekoGloop |
is secretly the space core |
03:08 |
* aggies |
is bored |
03:08 |
kaeza |
aggies: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22376084.jpg |
03:09 |
* aggies |
kicks Neko across the universe |
03:10 |
NekoGloop |
Ssssssssssspppppppppppaaaaaaaaacccccccceeeeeee.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
03:10 |
aggies |
I GATman u can't hurt me |
03:10 |
VanessaE |
... |
03:11 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: Wut? |
03:11 |
VanessaE |
nuthin' |
03:11 |
aggies |
i love sibling rivalerie |
03:11 |
NekoGloop |
Heh. |
03:11 |
aggies |
look up GATman and robin and u would c |
03:12 |
kaeza |
OK, now starting x-compilation to MinGW32. Wish me luck :) |
03:12 |
* aggies |
makes Neko into venus |
03:12 |
* NekoGloop |
blows up |
03:12 |
* aggies |
makes Neko run into the sun as venus |
03:13 |
* NekoGloop |
reconstitues as the creeper-steve hybrid that is his minecraft skin. |
03:13 |
* aggies |
eat chocolate pie |
03:13 |
khonkhortisan |
"space corp" |
03:14 |
kaeza |
slowbro shows up as khonkhortisan |
03:14 |
* aggies |
jumps cause khankhotisan is alive |
03:14 |
khonkhortisan |
firefox was taking 70% mem, with only three tabs |
03:14 |
NekoGloop |
genghis khan(khortisan) |
03:14 |
kaeza |
ditch Shitdows |
03:14 |
kaeza |
:) |
03:14 |
sdzen|away |
only 70%? |
03:14 |
khonkhortisan |
yep, still here, just playing rpgs and wrestling with opengl |
03:14 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: Firefox is a mem hog on any os. |
03:15 |
khonkhortisan |
Neko I don't understand you |
03:15 |
sdzen|away |
it should be taking 100 |
03:15 |
kaeza |
also ditch FF, use Chromium :) |
03:15 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. |
03:15 |
* khonkhortisan |
didn't like history class |
03:15 |
NekoGloop |
Haha. |
03:16 |
aggies |
http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1280&bih=691&tbm=isch&tbnid=82WjtBQ3QK4FSM:&imgrefurl=http://creeperblog.com/%3Fcat%3D3%26paged%3D5&docid=U3NoswgCv22NrM&imgurl=http://creeperblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/How-to-Build-a-Minecraft-Creeper.jpg&w=500&h=332&ei=ajC0UPnUD4HI9QSyx4GoCw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=2&sig=110153936471635374800&page=1&tbnh=144&tbnw=213&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:178&tx=130&ty=110 |
03:16 |
khonkhortisan |
creeperblog.com^ |
03:16 |
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03:16 |
kaeza |
aggies: nice |
03:16 |
Muadtralk |
firrefox is Grrrrrrrrreat! though |
03:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
How do i get keypresses on the latest version? |
03:17 |
kaeza |
not better that opera |
03:17 |
kaeza |
hey jordan |
03:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hi JRADKADASDKAS |
03:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
keraladzm |
03:18 |
AGUAIDFIASFJ |
http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1280&bih=691&tbm=isch&tbnid=V1RJ0O_AYhySWM:&imgrefurl=http://creeperblog.com/%3Fp%3D6&docid=4IiboSKrTUUVxM&imgurl=http://creeperblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/creeper.jpg&w=580&h=435&ei=bDC0UNfrHYWs8ATpzICgCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=374&vpy=386&dur=13&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=126&ty=141&sig=110153936471635374800&page=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=185&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:0,i:211 |
03:18 |
OldCoder |
Right here |
03:18 |
OldCoder |
What did Kacey want? |
03:18 |
khonkhortisan |
already saw that by scrolling down |
03:18 |
khonkhortisan |
don't need another link |
03:18 |
OldCoder |
Kacey lets go of Neko and bicycle kicks him across the room |
03:18 |
OldCoder |
That seems dramatic |
03:18 |
OldCoder |
Blink and you miss the darndest things |
03:19 |
aggies |
lol |
03:19 |
khonkhortisan |
so that's what that kick is called |
03:19 |
NekoGloop |
I dont even know what that was, but i'm the space core so it hurt his foot more. |
03:19 |
kaeza |
aggies: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/memes/W2x4iH9450iId5W7MfuYvw2.jpg |
03:19 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
03:19 |
khonkhortisan |
what is a space core? |
03:19 |
Aggies |
lol |
03:19 |
NekoGloop |
Portal 2. |
03:19 |
NekoGloop |
That is all. |
03:20 |
Sssssppppaaaccee |
:3 |
03:20 |
kaeza |
Sssssppppaaaccee: lol |
03:20 |
khonkhortisan |
You got the name right. Horray for tab completion! |
03:21 |
kaeza |
"I'm in Sssssssssspace!" -- A Creeper |
03:22 |
kaeza |
khonkhortisan: Do you know my friends? they are Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V |
03:24 |
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03:24 |
kaeza |
wb |
03:24 |
mrtux |
Hi redcrap |
03:24 |
mrtux |
*redcrab |
03:24 |
mrtux |
whoops |
03:24 |
mrtux |
sorry |
03:24 |
* VanessaE |
pokes redcrab |
03:24 |
khonkhortisan |
this goes along with the theme http://deathonabun.deviantart.com/art/Space-Core-Wallpaper-2-206279211 |
03:25 |
khonkhortisan |
My friend is Mouse Highlight and Middle "Mouse" Button |
03:25 |
khonkhortisan |
No ctrl-c/v required |
03:27 |
kaeza |
khonkhortisan: you use linux? |
03:27 |
kaeza |
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XUWx0NMsvaQ/TSfu3TRjs4I/AAAAAAAABKw/ZsHMOY2Vibg/s1600/minecraft.jpg |
03:27 |
khonkhortisan |
yep |
03:27 |
khonkhortisan |
and have a windows program on a flash drive to do the same thing |
03:27 |
kaeza |
thought you used shitdows |
03:27 |
kaeza |
sorry |
03:27 |
khonkhortisan |
um, the recursion isn't done by scaling. |
03:28 |
khonkhortisan |
that's impressive |
03:28 |
khonkhortisan |
ha! The left wire is too high on the second monitor draw |
03:29 |
NekoGloop |
khonkhortisan: I call that "lack of available detail" |
03:29 |
NekoGloop |
Redpower microblocks could be helpful there. |
03:30 |
kaeza |
oppa craft style: http://tpdm.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/minecraft-style-600x300.jpg |
03:30 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: No, listen to the song first. |
03:30 |
NekoGloop |
"Digging minecraft style" |
03:34 |
jordan4ibanez |
What am i doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Lq4cb355 |
03:35 |
kaeza |
http://www.minecrafthumor.com/images/2012/October/15/507c80861c371.jpg |
03:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
I'm trying to wrap my head around the basics of this function |
03:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
Taoki|away: How do i use the set_attachment function? |
03:40 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: how do you make player textures |
03:40 |
kaeza |
? |
03:40 |
VanessaE |
I don't :-) |
03:40 |
VanessaE |
I download them |
03:40 |
VanessaE |
they're just minecraft skins. |
03:40 |
kaeza |
ok |
03:41 |
kaeza |
I want to adapt this texture: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52970#p52970 |
03:42 |
VanessaE |
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Skinzones.png |
03:42 |
VanessaE |
this should help |
03:42 |
kaeza |
thanks V :) |
03:42 |
VanessaE |
scale the image up or down as needed to get to the resolution you're working with, then copy&paste the various pieces of your player image into the templace. |
03:42 |
VanessaE |
template* |
03:42 |
VanessaE |
the template can be any resolution in Minetest as long as the format is correct. |
03:43 |
kaeza |
oh fuck http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/hd-x-gen-skin-gordon-freemanhalf-life-2/ |
03:43 |
VanessaE |
lol |
03:44 |
VanessaE |
well there ya go :-) |
03:44 |
VanessaE |
want me to assign it to you? |
03:44 |
kaeza |
should've guessed there should be already one. HL is a 14-years old game after all |
03:44 |
kaeza |
what? |
03:44 |
kaeza |
oh yes |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
installed. |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
(I kept the old one as a backup) |
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kaeza1 |
sorry |
03:46 |
VanessaE |
it's okay |
03:47 |
VanessaE |
I installed your new skin, and kept the old one in case you want to revert. |
03:47 |
kaeza1 |
thanks :)) |
03:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
Mualdtralk |
03:47 |
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03:48 |
VanessaE |
no, eppes? sign in already :-) |
03:48 |
VanessaE |
nu* |
03:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
Muadtalk |
03:49 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jV9bB-Q7JU |
03:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
muadtralk |
03:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3877 |
03:50 |
NekoGloop |
-1 + -1 is -2.... |
03:51 |
Muadtralk |
hmmmm |
03:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
NO |
03:51 |
Muadtralk |
i assume youve based this off carts? |
03:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
Since -1 is not a real number it can be WHATEVER I WNAT |
03:51 |
Muadtralk |
or at least have looked at it |
03:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes |
03:53 |
VanessaE |
last I knew, -1 was, like all negative numbers, still part of the "real numbers" set (in mathematics) |
03:54 |
Muadtralk |
its not a positive integer though so its not in that set |
03:54 |
Muadtralk |
so replace "not a real number" with "not a positive integer" |
03:55 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: "real numbers" include negatives. |
03:55 |
jordan4ibanez |
Nope! |
03:55 |
jordan4ibanez |
all negatives are imaginary |
03:55 |
NekoGloop |
http://algebra.freehomeworkmathhelp.com/Numbers/sets_of_all_numbers_subsets.GIF |
03:56 |
NekoGloop |
Negatives are integers. |
03:56 |
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03:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
NOPE |
03:56 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez, thousands of years of mathematics professors say you're wrong. |
03:56 |
M13 |
hello |
03:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have -1 apples |
03:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
IT CANT BE REAL |
03:56 |
Muadtralk |
yes |
03:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
You can't work with - numbers in real lyfe |
03:56 |
Muadtralk |
i was suggesting a possible correction to make it true |
03:56 |
NekoGloop |
The set of integers contains the negative and positive numbers that have no fractional or decimal part. In other words, the integers consist of all negative and positive whole numbers including 0 |
03:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
muadtralk: wha? |
03:57 |
M13 |
has KikaRz been here complaining about "her server" |
03:57 |
* dzho |
hooks jordan4ibanez up to a -120 volt potential |
03:57 |
khonkhortisan |
the apple is inside out? |
03:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have -123121 atoms |
03:57 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: you can quite easily work with them in real life: I have -1 apples --> I have lost one apple. |
03:58 |
VanessaE |
Adding a negative number is equivalent to subtracting its positive. |
03:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
NOPE, that would be 1 - 1 not -1 |
03:58 |
khonkhortisan |
You have -$50 in your wallet because both you and your friend remember your debt. |
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03:58 |
NekoGloop |
-1 + -1 = -2 |
03:58 |
khonkhortisan |
n + (-1) = n - (1) |
03:59 |
bulletrulz |
no -1=-1=1 |
03:59 |
dzho |
anyway "imaginary" is reserved for a different concept |
03:59 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: just because you can't work with negative numbers in real life does not mean they don't exist. |
03:59 |
khonkhortisan |
a 90 degree rotation. |
03:59 |
VanessaE |
"imaginary" numbers are any value multiplied by sqrt(-1) |
03:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
-1 + 1 = 0 zero is an imaginary number too |
03:59 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, can i join ur server? |
03:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
negative numbers are just a concept, they aren't actually real |
03:59 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: sure, got very recent 0.4.4 handy? |
03:59 |
NekoGloop |
jordan4ibanez: I have $0 |
03:59 |
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03:59 |
khonkhortisan |
the number line simplifies things |
04:00 |
NekoGloop |
I have -$100 |
04:00 |
bulletrulz |
not 4/3 |
04:00 |
khonkhortisan |
each number is equidistant from the next |
04:00 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes, but that means you have 0 dollars which physically is impossible |
04:00 |
NekoGloop |
jordan4ibanez: How? |
04:00 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: of course it is possible - I have zero dollars. |
04:00 |
NekoGloop |
I have no dollars. |
04:00 |
bulletrulz |
do i need 4.4 VanessaE |
04:00 |
jordan4ibanez |
You can't have 0 dollars, it's physically impossible |
04:00 |
* khonkhortisan |
stretches out hand. Looks in hand. Sees no money. |
04:00 |
dzho |
"dollars" don't need to be physical |
04:00 |
NekoGloop |
(A tad literally) |
04:00 |
VanessaE |
I have none, zippo, broke, busted, zip, zilch, and a whole lotta nada. |
04:00 |
jordan4ibanez |
But you would need to have at least 1 dollar to have a number of physical dollars |
04:00 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: it is ZERO POINT FOUR POINT FOUR. and yes it is required. |
04:01 |
khonkhortisan |
if the concept of "dollar" is defined, you don't have any number other than zero of them. |
04:01 |
khonkhortisan |
*is not defined |
04:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
The concept of -1 is imaginary, it's not physical |
04:01 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, where do i get it? |
04:01 |
NekoGloop |
If T_A_N_K tries to math, we all die. |
04:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
There's 0, and 1 |
04:01 |
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04:01 |
khonkhortisan |
the car I'm looking at is -5 feet behind me. What's wrong with that? |
04:01 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: you have to compile it from source code for now. |
04:01 |
* dzho |
giggles at the thought of jordan4ibanez trying to grasp the difference between countably infinite and uncountably infinite |
04:01 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: binaries have not been released yet. |
04:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol, i just wanted to see how long i could keep this going on for |
04:01 |
bulletrulz |
ok |
04:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
I know -1 is real XD |
04:02 |
khonkhortisan |
but now we have countable and uncountable |
04:02 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: well to be pedantic, if it's -5 feet in front of you, it's (positive) 5 feet *behind* you :D |
04:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
No math lessons, only butthurt |
04:02 |
khonkhortisan |
yep, but that's the other direction than I said |
04:02 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, is correcy |
04:02 |
khonkhortisan |
and I wouldn't see it then |
04:02 |
* khonkhortisan |
looks up "pedantic" |
04:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
Physically, you can't be negative, but mentally you can |
04:03 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, Can you give me the link to the source |
04:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
ROBOTICALLY YOU CAN BE ANYTHING |
04:03 |
khonkhortisan |
direction can easily be negative, just swap the origin and the point, but leave the axes the same |
04:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
But then that becomes mental math |
04:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
And you won't like mental math |
04:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
Here, everyone learn from yahoo http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080225122726AAHJLct |
04:05 |
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04:05 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest and https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game |
04:06 |
bulletrulz |
thank toy |
04:06 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: follow the readme carefully |
04:06 |
VanessaE |
I ain't no toy :-) |
04:06 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, is right a negitive plus a negitive always EQAULS a postive |
04:06 |
khonkhortisan |
"real" as differentiated from imaginary numbers only. |
04:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
But a negative * positive always equals negative |
04:06 |
NekoGloop |
bulletrulz: Nope. |
04:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
WHAAAAAAAAAAAA |
04:06 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: wrong. |
04:07 |
NekoGloop |
Negative plus a negative is a negative. |
04:07 |
khonkhortisan |
(-1) + (-2) = -3 |
04:07 |
bulletrulz |
ye |
04:07 |
VanessaE |
add two negatives, the result is negative. Multiply them and the result is always positive. |
04:07 |
khonkhortisan |
(-1) x (-2) = 2 |
04:07 |
NekoGloop |
Negative minus a positive is a negative |
04:07 |
bulletrulz |
NEGITIVE PLUS A NEGITIVE = a posive |
04:07 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: wrong. |
04:07 |
bulletrulz |
dude this is 4th grade math! |
04:07 |
bulletrulz |
no |
04:07 |
bulletrulz |
its not |
04:07 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: add two negatives, the result is negative. Multiply them and the result is always positive. |
04:07 |
khonkhortisan |
how is that wrong? |
04:07 |
khonkhortisan |
making a negative more negative keeps it negative |
04:08 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: it is wrong. adding two negatives is the same as subtracting both from zero. |
04:08 |
khonkhortisan |
(-1) - 2 = -3 |
04:08 |
VanessaE |
-1 + -1 = 0 - 1 - 1 = -2 |
04:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
1+2+3 = 3+2+1 |
04:08 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: ask any math teacher. they will agree with me. |
04:08 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, XD |
04:08 |
VanessaE |
(and khonkhortisan and NekoGloop) |
04:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
And don't even get me started on pi |
04:09 |
NekoGloop |
-& + € = % |
04:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
pi = 3 |
04:09 |
VanessaE |
3.141592653 ...is as far as I can remember it :-) |
04:09 |
NekoGloop |
pi = tasty |
04:09 |
dzho |
euler's gamma, though: they don't even know if it's irrational or transcendental |
04:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
pi = 3 * 1/1222233333344444 |
04:10 |
dzho |
32 |
04:10 |
dzho |
d'oh |
04:10 |
kaeza |
Sorry I'm late, but how can a circle be perfect if PI is irrational? |
04:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
A circle is perfect, pi is just wrong |
04:10 |
bulletrulz |
pi = 3.14 whats 3.14 upside down and flipped around :O |
04:10 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: because pi is merely a ratio :-) |
04:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
41.3 |
04:11 |
bulletrulz |
oh |
04:11 |
kaeza |
yes, but let's say a circle whose diameter is 1cm is ~3.1416 |
04:11 |
bulletrulz |
lol turn the 4 around |
04:11 |
bulletrulz |
pie O: |
04:11 |
bulletrulz |
3.14 in a mirror is PIE! |
04:11 |
bulletrulz |
:O |
04:11 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: because we can't measure it precisely. |
04:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol, i think linux will never be successful |
04:12 |
kaeza |
aaargh It's hard to explain my point |
04:12 |
dzho |
because if it were successful, none dare call it linux |
04:12 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, i think your wrong! |
04:12 |
kaeza |
this^ |
04:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
bulletrulz: egoraptor |
04:12 |
dzho |
they'd call it something different, like, say . . . "Android" |
04:12 |
bulletrulz |
when did jordan4ibanez turn in to a windows nazi |
04:13 |
kaeza |
shitdows* |
04:13 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: it would be ~3.1415927 cm in diameter, but only because we don't have any shorthand to give an exact figure except pi * diameter :-) |
04:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have a successful version of linux, it's called pcbsd |
04:13 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: so as a workaround, we just round it. |
04:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
I think i've successfully gotten this irc butthurt to ∞ |
04:14 |
VanessaE |
heh |
04:14 |
kaeza |
yeah, but the problem is it's not the same (d * 3.1416) than (d * 3.1415927) etc etc |
04:14 |
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04:14 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, 2010-2011 cool guy T_A_N_K/jordan4ibanez 2012 windows nazi |
04:14 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: right, which is why we just shorten ~3.1415... to "pi" |
04:14 |
kaeza |
gone |
04:14 |
VanessaE |
"pi" literally IS a number, and at present is what, a trillion digits long now? |
04:15 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez is dead to me |
04:15 |
kaeza |
maybe |
04:15 |
VanessaE |
I forget how far out they've calculated it |
04:16 |
kaeza |
but even if it had a trillion digits, it would still not be the same as one trillion and one digit |
04:16 |
VanessaE |
far enough to measure the circumference of the galaxy with an error smaller than the Planck length or some such :-) |
04:16 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: There's a program that is currently running on a website, calculating pi. |
04:16 |
kaeza |
ok nevermind, I suck at math anyway |
04:17 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: how do they that? beats me |
04:17 |
NekoGloop |
Minecraft gets piFPS on my computer. |
04:17 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: lol |
04:17 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: Easy.... |
04:17 |
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04:18 |
NekoGloop |
SOME EXCEPTION: Dont care. |
04:18 |
OldCoder |
redcrab, hi |
04:18 |
kaeza |
hey RC |
04:18 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, check the messege |
04:19 |
kaeza |
wat |
04:19 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: wat |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMake Error: CMake was unable to find a build program corresponding to "Unix Makefiles". CMAKE_MAKE_PROGRAM is not set. You probably need to select a different build tool. |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
Missing variable is: |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMAKE_C_COMPILER_ENV_VAR |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
Missing variable is: |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMAKE_C_COMPILER |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMake Error: Could not find cmake module file:/home/brandon/Desktop/minetest/CMakeFiles/CMakeCCompiler.cmake |
04:19 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: don't paste!!!!! |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
Missing variable is: |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER_ENV_VAR |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
Missing variable is: |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMake Error: Could not find cmake module file:/home/brandon/Desktop/minetest/CMakeFiles/CMakeCXXCompiler.cmake |
04:19 |
bulletrulz |
CMake Error: CMAKE_C_COMPILER not set, after EnableLanguage |
04:20 |
bulletrulz |
CMake Error: CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER not set, after EnableLanguage |
04:20 |
bulletrulz |
-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! |
04:20 |
VanessaE |
STOP STOP STOP STOP |
04:20 |
VanessaE |
STOP STOP STOP STOP |
04:20 |
VanessaE |
STOP STOP STOP STOP |
04:20 |
bulletrulz |
ok |
04:20 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
04:20 |
bulletrulz |
xD not really a big deal |
04:20 |
VanessaE |
do NOT paste in the channel! |
04:20 |
bulletrulz |
ok |
04:20 |
bulletrulz |
ok |
04:20 |
VanessaE |
anyway, I can't help you with compiling on Windows |
04:20 |
kaeza |
wowowow |
04:20 |
kaeza |
stop it! |
04:20 |
VanessaE |
except that you obviously need a compiler :-) |
04:20 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, im using linux |
04:20 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: you didn't follow the readme like I told you to. |
04:20 |
bulletrulz |
i did |
04:20 |
VanessaE |
otherwise you'd have a compiler now. |
04:21 |
kaeza |
maybe CMake is not installed correctly? |
04:21 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L78 |
04:21 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, i have it |
04:21 |
kaeza |
did you install from the package manager? |
04:21 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: please notice the apt-get install line. |
04:21 |
bulletrulz |
there must be some dipendisie isshues |
04:21 |
VanessaE |
(line 82, make sure you can see the whole thing) |
04:22 |
VanessaE |
sudo apt-get install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev |
04:22 |
VanessaE |
run that, then try again. |
04:23 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, ty |
04:24 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, you have 3d players installed right? |
04:25 |
bulletrulz |
my internet is being a douch |
04:25 |
bulletrulz |
65 kb???!! |
04:25 |
bulletrulz |
its ussualy 400kb |
04:25 |
bulletrulz |
maybe its apt-get |
04:26 |
VanessaE |
0.4.4 is 3d yes. |
04:26 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, wait 3d is included by defualt? |
04:26 |
Muadtralk |
yep! |
04:26 |
VanessaE |
yes |
04:26 |
VanessaE |
in 0.4.4 and up. |
04:26 |
bulletrulz |
:D |
04:26 |
bulletrulz |
tat |
04:26 |
bulletrulz |
yay |
04:26 |
bulletrulz |
! |
04:26 |
bulletrulz |
can we change skin? |
04:27 |
Muadtralk |
and model |
04:27 |
bulletrulz |
for diffrent players? |
04:27 |
VanessaE |
yes, with the player_textures mod for now |
04:27 |
bulletrulz |
::DDDDDD |
04:27 |
Muadtralk |
should someone ever make a different model that is |
04:27 |
bulletrulz |
yay |
04:27 |
VanessaE |
I have that installed, so if you manage to get 0.4.4 compiled, give me a skin to use and I'll plug it in for you. |
04:27 |
bulletrulz |
what skins will work> |
04:27 |
bulletrulz |
minecraft skins? |
04:27 |
Muadtralk |
yep |
04:28 |
bulletrulz |
minecraft skins will work VanessaE |
04:28 |
kaeza |
V: I don't seem to be able to connect |
04:28 |
Muadtralk |
also my server supports different player textures |
04:28 |
Muadtralk |
so if your ever on zenoheld |
04:28 |
kaeza |
maybe it's that bloated ambience mod |
04:28 |
Muadtralk |
ring me up! |
04:28 |
kaeza |
Muadtralk: IP? |
04:28 |
Muadtralk |
minecraft skins work |
04:29 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: the server is up? |
04:29 |
Muadtralk |
minetest.sytes.net:30000 for survival 30001 for semi creative |
04:29 |
* bulletrulz |
is doing the happy dance |
04:29 |
kaeza |
I get to "Downloading media" so i think yes it's up |
04:29 |
bulletrulz |
now we need to be able to see what players have in there hand |
04:29 |
OldCoder |
There is a script to check this |
04:29 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: wait it out, remember RBA's technic and ambiance are in, so they're huge |
04:30 |
VanessaE |
plus remember the crappy network code and your internet :-) |
04:30 |
OldCoder |
Both are up |
04:30 |
kaeza |
yup :( |
04:30 |
kaeza |
:okay: |
04:30 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: "their", and that'll come soon enough. |
04:30 |
OldCoder |
I should add that script to a page |
04:31 |
kaeza |
and on that topic, maybe make the head turn up/down |
04:31 |
kaeza |
just tossing ideas |
04:31 |
bulletrulz |
building! |
04:31 |
kaeza |
not that i'm complaining or anything |
04:31 |
bulletrulz |
18% |
04:31 |
bulletrulz |
19 ll |
04:31 |
bulletrulz |
CANT WAIT! |
04:32 |
kaeza |
Minetest binaries version 0.4.4 for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/minetest-0.4.4.tar.bz2 |
04:32 |
* sokomine |
pushes some mods in redcrabs direction and hopes he doesn't notice :-) |
04:33 |
* bulletrulz |
SAYS Hey sokomine i saw that |
04:33 |
kaeza |
does not include minetest_game |
04:33 |
bulletrulz |
32% ::D:DDDD:D:D:D: |
04:34 |
bulletrulz |
kaeza, wtf man |
04:34 |
bulletrulz |
im building mine right now |
04:34 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
04:34 |
bulletrulz |
i could of jusst downloaded that XXXDDD |
04:34 |
bulletrulz |
might as well let it make |
04:35 |
bulletrulz |
i got docky to work in lubuntu |
04:35 |
bulletrulz |
S: |
04:35 |
kaeza |
I was uploading when you said you built it :) |
04:35 |
bulletrulz |
kaeza, YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!LOL |
04:36 |
bulletrulz |
45% :D |
04:36 |
kaeza |
yes I am >:) |
04:36 |
bulletrulz |
lol you either a dog or you just called your mom a bitch !XD |
04:37 |
kaeza |
a bit of both |
04:37 |
bulletrulz |
xDDDD |
04:38 |
bulletrulz |
kaeza, your a cool guy what os u got? |
04:38 |
mrtux |
night |
04:38 |
kaeza |
http://www.troll.me/images2/grammar-correction-guy/-youre.jpg |
04:38 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
04:39 |
bulletrulz |
61% |
04:39 |
kaeza |
Ihave DOS 5.0 |
04:39 |
kaeza |
#YOLO |
04:39 |
kaeza |
J/K |
04:40 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
04:40 |
kaeza |
<sarcasm>guess what? Ubuntu 12.04!! OMG!! That's unexpected!!</sarcasm> |
04:40 |
bulletrulz |
apple or microsoft dos XD |
04:40 |
bulletrulz |
kaeza, so ubuntu |
04:40 |
kaeza |
yep |
04:41 |
bulletrulz |
i got lubuntu 12.10 |
04:41 |
bulletrulz |
with docky xD |
04:42 |
bulletrulz |
i think ill stick with it too |
04:42 |
kaeza |
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-11-27%2002%3A38%3A31.png |
04:44 |
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04:45 |
kaeza |
back |
04:45 |
kaeza |
sorry |
04:45 |
VanessaE |
wb |
04:45 |
VanessaE |
what's with the screenshot? |
04:45 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
04:45 |
kaeza |
just showing off |
04:45 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, almost dont builfinh |
04:45 |
bulletrulz |
99 |
04:46 |
kaeza |
btw it seems Muadtralk is gone |
04:46 |
bulletrulz |
99% |
04:46 |
bulletrulz |
100% |
04:46 |
bulletrulz |
hes dead jim |
04:46 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
04:46 |
NekoGloop |
Um... |
04:46 |
NekoGloop |
He left about 15 mins ago. |
04:46 |
kaeza |
he posted a link to a server but the server is still 0.4.3 |
04:47 |
kaeza |
nvm |
04:47 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, |
04:47 |
bulletrulz |
can i have the server ip? |
04:48 |
VanessaE |
did you find a player skin you want me to use? |
04:48 |
bulletrulz |
oh i can use minecraft ones right? |
04:48 |
VanessaE |
yes |
04:48 |
VanessaE |
give me the address of the skin and I will install it for you |
04:49 |
bulletrulz |
pl |
04:49 |
bulletrulz |
ok |
04:49 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/152857/slenderman/ |
04:50 |
VanessaE |
Ok. You will use the name "bulletrulz" as you spelled it here? |
04:50 |
bulletrulz |
yes |
04:51 |
kaeza |
bulletrulz: nice skin |
04:51 |
VanessaE |
ok. The skin is installed. Server is at 24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
04:51 |
VanessaE |
please note that the server is very laggy for reasons that are as yet out of my control. |
04:52 |
VanessaE |
wait.. |
04:52 |
VanessaE |
gotta fix something. |
04:52 |
bulletrulz |
noo ok |
04:54 |
bulletrulz |
done? |
04:54 |
VanessaE |
not yet. |
04:54 |
VanessaE |
don't connect,. |
04:54 |
VanessaE |
I ain't done |
04:54 |
VanessaE |
ok, now it's ready. |
04:55 |
bulletrulz |
0% media!!! |
04:55 |
VanessaE |
heh, looks like the anonymous guy :-) |
04:56 |
VanessaE |
it'll take a long time for the media to come in. like 5-10 minutes. |
04:56 |
VanessaE |
give it time. |
04:56 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, slender man is a thing from something awful forums |
04:56 |
VanessaE |
this will improve in the near future. |
04:56 |
bulletrulz |
ender man is based of of this |
04:56 |
bulletrulz |
ok ill go take a shower |
04:56 |
bulletrulz |
be back and it should be done |
04:56 |
VanessaE |
ok |
04:59 |
khonkhortisan |
haha so I google "how to create a multiplayer game in c++", get to stackoverflow which recommends raknet, who has a featured customer minecraft pocket edition, a variation of the game this game "copies". I can't get away! |
04:59 |
VanessaE |
heh |
04:59 |
VanessaE |
sounds like we need a 6 degrees of minetest website now ;-) |
04:59 |
VanessaE |
(or -minecraft) |
05:02 |
kaeza |
been playing a bit with the port to C++ of minetestmapper. It's full of awesomeness! |
05:02 |
VanessaE |
cool :-) |
05:02 |
VanessaE |
So you're saying it's Awesomesauceâ„¢? |
05:03 |
kaeza |
yup :) |
05:03 |
VanessaE |
(Awesomesauce and the Awesomesauce logo are TM and © 2012 by Mark Traceur) |
05:03 |
VanessaE |
;) |
05:03 |
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05:04 |
* kaeza |
is waiting in court before MarkTraceur sues him |
05:04 |
VanessaE |
hahaha |
05:04 |
kaeza |
:) |
05:04 |
kaeza |
hey Aqua |
05:04 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: It's OK, I released the rights to the C++ port because I'm happy to have it represent the Awesomesauce brand. |
05:04 |
kaeza |
lol |
05:05 |
VanessaE |
bahahahahaa |
05:05 |
kaeza |
posting pic in 3...2...1... |
05:05 |
VanessaE |
and of course he shows up :D |
05:05 |
Aqua |
hi |
05:05 |
VanessaE |
hey marki |
05:05 |
VanessaE |
mark* |
05:05 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: I got highlighted! |
05:06 |
VanessaE |
I blame kaeza :D |
05:06 |
kaeza |
lolol |
05:09 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: now that you mention it, I never had the honor to see you around here |
05:09 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: No, it was you! |
05:09 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Pleased to meet you ): |
05:09 |
marktraceur |
:)* |
05:09 |
kaeza |
same here :) |
05:09 |
VanessaE |
I plead the 5th, your honor. :D |
05:11 |
VanessaE |
gotta run. Have fun on the server. |
05:11 |
kaeza |
still 0% media |
05:11 |
kaeza |
:( |
05:11 |
kaeza |
ok |
05:11 |
kaeza |
later then ;) |
05:11 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 -- using the very latest 0.4.4, if you have the patience to deal with the lag :-) |
05:12 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Meh, I'm happy with stable versions for now |
05:12 |
VanessaE |
kaeza, bulletrulz you know what, that ambience mod adds too much. It's gotta go. |
05:12 |
kaeza |
I agree |
05:13 |
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05:13 |
VanessaE |
mod deleted, server restarted. |
05:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
Comiceos6 |
05:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
Most polished linux distro I've ever used |
05:13 |
kaeza |
V: going in |
05:14 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: 3d models? :-) |
05:14 |
kaeza |
jordan4ibanes: cool |
05:14 |
kaeza |
ibanez* |
05:15 |
Aqua |
ibanez is a brand of guitar/bass : |
05:15 |
Aqua |
):) |
05:15 |
Aqua |
:) |
05:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
Like I'm not kidding, this feels more polished than windows 7 holy shit |
05:16 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Use tab completion! |
05:16 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Type (e.g.) V<tab> to get VanessaE. |
05:16 |
kaeza |
oh |
05:17 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: anyway, 0.4.4 seems stable enough and it now has 3d player models by default. It IS pure Awesomesauceâ„¢ :-) |
05:20 |
VanessaE |
and, I'm off to bed. |
05:20 |
VanessaE |
night all. |
05:20 |
kaeza |
night V |
05:23 |
kaeza |
bulletrulz: you still here |
05:23 |
kaeza |
? |
05:27 |
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05:28 |
Aqua |
herro |
05:34 |
bulletrulz |
back |
05:36 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
05:36 |
bulletrulz |
anyone on vs server |
05:36 |
bulletrulz |
? |
05:36 |
kaeza |
bulletrulz: is the server ok? |
05:37 |
kaeza |
I can see you |
05:37 |
bulletrulz |
yay am i slenderman? |
05:41 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, |
05:41 |
bulletrulz |
how do i get privs????!!!!! |
05:41 |
bulletrulz |
nooooo |
05:42 |
kaeza |
shhhh |
05:42 |
kaeza |
she's sleeping |
05:42 |
kaeza |
:) |
05:42 |
bulletrulz |
lol WAKE UP VanessaE |
05:43 |
bulletrulz |
somebody help lol |
05:43 |
khonkhortisan |
"and it now has 3d player models by default." Never thought I'd hear it. |
05:48 |
bulletrulz |
any admins for vs server online? |
05:50 |
kaeza |
bulletrulz: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1080481738.png |
06:00 |
Aqua |
herro |
06:02 |
OldCoder |
Back |
06:02 |
Aqua |
amazing 3d !!!!! |
06:02 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, Hi |
06:03 |
Aqua |
hey oldcoader is port fowarding dangerous? |
06:03 |
Aqua |
cos i wanna start a server on windows |
06:04 |
bulletrulz |
OldCoder, do u have prics on vs server> |
06:05 |
Aqua |
oc??? |
06:05 |
kaeza |
wb coder |
06:06 |
bulletrulz |
OldCoder, D: |
06:07 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, hi. What's the question? |
06:07 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, indicate what you mean. Are you asking me to forward to you? |
06:08 |
Aqua |
port foward to make a server |
06:08 |
bulletrulz |
OldCoder, i need help on VanessaE server i dont have privs can u give me some |
06:14 |
OldCoder |
I don't have admin there bulletrulz |
06:14 |
OldCoder |
It isn't one of mine |
06:14 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, Explain |
06:14 |
Aqua |
1. Start the server on a port (set in minetest.conf as port = ####) 2. Find the internal LAN IP of the computer the you are running the server on (example: 192.168.1.100) 3. Use port forwarding from the router to forward port #### to the internal LAN IP 3.a If any firewalls are present, they must allow the port to pass traffic as well. 4. Let your friends know what your internet IP is (you can find this by looking at your router's s |
06:14 |
Aqua |
is there another way? |
06:16 |
Aqua |
? |
06:16 |
Aqua |
kaeza |
06:16 |
Aqua |
khonk |
06:16 |
kaeza |
what? |
06:16 |
OldCoder |
Reading |
06:16 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
06:16 |
Aqua |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1037 |
06:16 |
OldCoder |
You mean port forwarding at that level |
06:16 |
OldCoder |
R |
06:16 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing |
06:16 |
Aqua |
yeh |
06:16 |
OldCoder |
One minute |
06:17 |
OldCoder |
For a single UDP port at 30000 should be perfectly safe |
06:17 |
OldCoder |
except for |
06:17 |
OldCoder |
any risks inherent in the software itself |
06:17 |
OldCoder |
There is no other way that I am aware of |
06:17 |
bulletrulz |
opera is a good browser |
06:17 |
OldCoder |
It is O.K. yes |
06:18 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, you must forward because otherwise how will packets get to the software? |
06:18 |
Aqua |
what bout this way? |
06:18 |
Aqua |
Open command prompt by going in the Minetest installation folder, then in the "bin" folder, hold Shift, do a right click on a empty file (not on minetest.exe), click "Open command window here". Type this, without quotes: "minetest.exe --server". If you get the error "Multiple worlds are available.", use "minetest.exe --server --worldname world_name" instead, where world_name is the name of the world. If your serv |
06:19 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, that is too long |
06:19 |
bulletrulz |
i like qupzilla though |
06:19 |
OldCoder |
It cannot be read here |
06:19 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, paste it to a paste site as I did not receive it |
06:19 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, one moment |
06:20 |
Aqua |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server |
06:20 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, Thank you. Never tried that one. I'll need to build it. |
06:20 |
Aqua |
or is this outdated? |
06:20 |
bulletrulz |
OldCoder, its got packages |
06:20 |
bulletrulz |
debian |
06:20 |
bulletrulz |
fedora |
06:20 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, that part has nothing to do with forwarding |
06:20 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, I build all my software |
06:20 |
bulletrulz |
why lol |
06:20 |
OldCoder |
I do not use packages except when essential |
06:20 |
OldCoder |
Because I run my own Linux distro |
06:20 |
OldCoder |
There is no other way |
06:21 |
bulletrulz |
oh |
06:21 |
Aqua |
i have windows |
06:21 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, You must forward ports if you have a router |
06:21 |
bulletrulz |
Aqua, switch to liux |
06:21 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, Wait |
06:21 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, one issue at a time |
06:21 |
bulletrulz |
linux is better Aq |
06:21 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, what is the current question or issue? |
06:21 |
khonkhortisan |
khonk semi-present |
06:21 |
OldCoder |
khonkhortisan, hi |
06:21 |
Aqua |
khonk is gameboom down? |
06:21 |
Aqua |
forever? |
06:22 |
Aqua |
how to make a server on windows. |
06:22 |
khonkhortisan |
haven't played recently |
06:22 |
khonkhortisan |
been to redcrab more recently than gameboom |
06:22 |
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06:22 |
bulletrulz |
i used to be a mod on redcrab |
06:22 |
Aqua |
gameboom has been shut down :) |
06:23 |
Aqua |
u used to be a mod? |
06:23 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:23 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, they have lost the world before |
06:23 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, Only about 20 of them :-) |
06:23 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/ |
06:23 |
OldCoder |
^ See list and screenshots |
06:23 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
06:24 |
OldCoder |
I misunderstood |
06:24 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, what is your question? |
06:24 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:24 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:24 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:24 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:24 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:24 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:24 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:24 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:24 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:24 |
Aqua |
oc how do u host a serevr? |
06:24 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, do not flood |
06:24 |
Aqua |
spam? |
06:24 |
OldCoder |
No |
06:24 |
OldCoder |
That is flood not spam |
06:24 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, I see the question |
06:24 |
Aqua |
whats the difefernce? |
06:24 |
OldCoder |
Flood is too long |
06:24 |
Aqua |
whats the difefernce? |
06:24 |
OldCoder |
Spam is several other things |
06:24 |
Aqua |
whats the difefernce? |
06:25 |
Aqua |
whats the difefernce? |
06:25 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, I will kick you |
06:25 |
Aqua |
ok |
06:25 |
OldCoder |
It is late and I am tired |
06:25 |
Aqua |
ill stop |
06:25 |
OldCoder |
Show some courtesy and I will answer your questions |
06:25 |
* marktraceur |
is 100% in favor of kicking |
06:25 |
OldCoder |
Now... |
06:25 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, can you explain your question? |
06:25 |
OldCoder |
What do you mean? |
06:25 |
OldCoder |
About host a server? |
06:26 |
OldCoder |
Be patient and try to explain |
06:26 |
Aqua |
i wanna start a server and im stuck in port fowarding i think i kinow how but i just wanted to ask is it dangerous to the laptop or watever? |
06:26 |
OldCoder |
No |
06:26 |
OldCoder |
Not for this |
06:26 |
OldCoder |
It is just one port at UDP 30000 |
06:26 |
OldCoder |
Risk is not large |
06:27 |
Aqua |
ive heard that there could be viruses or something? |
06:28 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, You run the same risk with or without port forwarding |
06:28 |
OldCoder |
It is not the issue |
06:28 |
OldCoder |
Port forwarding will not give the system cancer |
06:28 |
OldCoder |
Not for one port at UDP 30000 |
06:28 |
OldCoder |
For Windows there are risks with everything |
06:29 |
OldCoder |
You should consider a switch to Linux someday |
06:29 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: Even better, switch to GNU/Linux: Security *and* functionality! |
06:29 |
OldCoder |
As I said :p |
06:29 |
* marktraceur |
enjoys ribbing the people in this channel about terminology sometimes :) |
06:29 |
OldCoder |
Though your explanation marktraceur is better |
06:29 |
OldCoder |
Fair nuff |
06:31 |
Aqua |
yep vanessaE told me to switch to kubuntu but will it run on a 5 or 6 yr old windows xp with terrible processor(centrino duo) |
06:32 |
kaeza |
Aqua: You should try PuppyLinux http://puppylinux.org/ |
06:32 |
VanessaE |
actually I said Xubuntu, but Kubuntu is okay. |
06:32 |
VanessaE |
also, hi. |
06:32 |
VanessaE |
so much for sleep, got too hungry |
06:32 |
Aqua |
who said kubuntu? |
06:32 |
VanessaE |
I see bullet made it into the server. |
06:32 |
kaeza |
hey V! |
06:32 |
VanessaE |
[11-27 01:31] <Aqua> yep vanessaE told me to switch to kubuntu [...] |
06:32 |
VanessaE |
you did :) |
06:33 |
kaeza |
thought you were sleeping |
06:33 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: I was trying to. Got too hungry to sleep. |
06:33 |
OldCoder |
She may have drifted off for a bit |
06:33 |
Aqua |
i forgot who it was....... |
06:33 |
kaeza |
can you give bullet interact privs? |
06:33 |
VanessaE |
got a protein shake/smoothie on hand now. |
06:33 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I can visit your world now if you like |
06:33 |
kaeza |
you always thinking about food... |
06:33 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, food is good |
06:33 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: don't remember, but I seem to recall Linus Torvalds likes KDE anyway |
06:33 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: please do :-) |
06:34 |
Aqua |
mark is ur server up? |
06:34 |
VanessaE |
ah I forgot to give bulletrulz interact. shit. |
06:34 |
Aqua |
really looking for new server |
06:34 |
kaeza |
YOU SUCK :) |
06:35 |
kaeza |
lol |
06:35 |
VanessaE |
:P |
06:35 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, location again? |
06:35 |
OldCoder |
ty |
06:35 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: try mine :-) |
06:35 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
06:35 |
kaeza |
I was in it until a few minutes ago |
06:36 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: I'd suggest using Trisquel GNU/Linux, it works fairly well on most machines that I've tried. |
06:36 |
kaeza |
NO MORE LAG!! YAY!! |
06:36 |
khonkhortisan |
VanessaE, what brand? |
06:36 |
VanessaE |
bullet has interact now when he shows up. |
06:36 |
Aqua |
but i dont have 0.4.4 |
06:36 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: er, Body Fortress I think, PB and Chocolate. |
06:36 |
kaeza |
it seems he's gone |
06:36 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: get it. :-) |
06:36 |
kaeza |
R.I.P |
06:36 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: I know. |
06:36 |
Aqua |
mark is ur server up? |
06:36 |
khonkhortisan |
don't know that one |
06:36 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: Are you asking me? |
06:36 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: I disabled interact by default to prevent griefing |
06:37 |
Aqua |
i dont have linux? |
06:37 |
Aqua |
yes |
06:37 |
khonkhortisan |
is it safe to update minetest git? |
06:37 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: build it from sources? ;) |
06:37 |
Aqua |
can i get 0.4.4 on windosws? |
06:37 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, visiting |
06:37 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: Use tab-completion to avoid ambiguity. Type mark<TAB> to get my name. |
06:37 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, is it 0.4.3 or 0.4.4 ? |
06:37 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: Besides, I don't know what server you mean....I've run multiple ones. |
06:37 |
VanessaE |
ooooo |
06:37 |
kaeza |
Aqua: you use linux right? |
06:37 |
kaeza |
nope |
06:37 |
VanessaE |
hats have been pushed to git master! |
06:37 |
Aqua |
mark: in ur server up |
06:38 |
VanessaE |
server going down for upgrade! |
06:38 |
khonkhortisan |
khon<tab> = khonkhortisan |
06:38 |
kaeza |
HATS! We are Valve now! |
06:38 |
Aqua |
vaneesa can u make it 0.4.3? |
06:38 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: Which server? |
06:38 |
khonkhortisan |
hats? I'm so far behind |
06:38 |
Aqua |
i only see one in ur topics |
06:39 |
Aqua |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=505 |
06:39 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: marktraceur.info? |
06:39 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: no. this is 0.4.4 and up only. |
06:39 |
Aqua |
yeh |
06:39 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: That one is not up, no. |
06:39 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I don't have 0.4.4 yet; will need to wait |
06:39 |
Aqua |
what other do u have thats up? |
06:39 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: s'ok, just tell me when you're ready. |
06:39 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: what OS do you use? |
06:39 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: I actually shouldn't say, the server hasn't officially launched yet. |
06:39 |
Aqua |
:( i really need a server |
06:40 |
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06:40 |
Aqua |
so bored playing on nubelites server no one on |
06:40 |
Aqua |
how can i get 0.4.4 on windows? |
06:40 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: bug the usual windows build guys or build it yourself :-) |
06:41 |
Aqua |
do i have to download it first? |
06:41 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder, kaeza, whoever else: server is up. |
06:42 |
kaeza |
k |
06:42 |
kaeza |
going in |
06:42 |
kaeza |
you did not put ambiance back right? |
06:42 |
kaeza |
ambience* |
06:42 |
VanessaE |
I killed ambience. |
06:43 |
kaeza |
+10000000 |
06:43 |
VanessaE |
it's history |
06:43 |
VanessaE |
I don't like it for server use, but it's nice for singleplayer |
06:43 |
* kaeza |
hands VanessaE a gift card for 10000 Internetz |
06:44 |
VanessaE |
in order to see hats on players you will also need to update your client btw. |
06:45 |
Aqua |
where can i get 0.4.4? |
06:45 |
VanessaE |
(I don't see your glasses) |
06:45 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: source code, from the usual git repositories. |
06:54 |
VanessaE |
well I guess the hats code is NOT in yet. |
06:54 |
VanessaE |
just re-checked the commit log, I must have misunderstood. Oh well |
06:55 |
VanessaE |
or wait... |
06:55 |
VanessaE |
oh I know why. |
06:56 |
VanessaE |
ok, let's try it now. |
06:56 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: any time you're ready |
06:56 |
kaeza |
you upgraded? |
06:57 |
kaeza |
diving in |
06:57 |
VanessaE |
I forgot to copy the new minetest_game over into my game folder. |
06:57 |
VanessaE |
much better. |
06:57 |
VanessaE |
you have glasses now :D |
06:57 |
kaeza |
oh |
06:57 |
kaeza |
do I look like Freeman? |
06:57 |
VanessaE |
yup |
06:58 |
VanessaE |
you did before, just didn't have the "hat" (glasses) on. |
06:58 |
kaeza |
can you post a pic? |
06:58 |
kaeza |
"hat" glasses.... sounds silly |
06:58 |
kaeza |
:) |
06:59 |
kaeza |
BTW was the lag problem something in the code? |
06:59 |
VanessaE |
well that' |
06:59 |
VanessaE |
that's how they're implemented. |
06:59 |
VanessaE |
I dunno, I didn't change anything in the code. I just ditched that ambiance mod is all. |
06:59 |
kaeza |
k |
06:59 |
VanessaE |
stand by |
06:59 |
VanessaE |
take a screenie of me also |
06:59 |
kaeza |
k |
07:01 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1084979642.png |
07:01 |
VanessaE |
there's you |
07:01 |
kaeza |
here is yours : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1084756596.jpg |
07:02 |
kaeza |
cool |
07:02 |
VanessaE |
well from the front would be nice :-) |
07:02 |
VanessaE |
stop looking at my ass :D |
07:02 |
VanessaE |
wait |
07:02 |
VanessaE |
what are you doing? |
07:02 |
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07:03 |
VanessaE |
you keep circling me |
07:03 |
kaeza |
no u |
07:03 |
kaeza |
here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1084890248.jpg |
07:03 |
VanessaE |
I keep turning to face you :D |
07:04 |
VanessaE |
that's my back side :-) |
07:04 |
VanessaE |
but I see the ribbon in my hair, so that works :-) |
07:05 |
kaeza |
so the other one is the front side |
07:05 |
VanessaE |
I'm standing facing you now. |
07:05 |
VanessaE |
why is my face covered in black? |
07:06 |
kaeza |
there is your front: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1085046798.jpg |
07:06 |
kaeza |
dunno |
07:06 |
VanessaE |
wtf? |
07:06 |
VanessaE |
that can't be right. |
07:06 |
kaeza |
I was gonna ask you the same |
07:06 |
* VanessaE |
checks the skin file... |
07:06 |
khonkhortisan |
look for transparency? |
07:07 |
kaeza |
maybe you forgot the alpha channel? |
07:07 |
VanessaE |
hm, skin file looks okay |
07:08 |
VanessaE |
must be a bug. |
07:08 |
kaeza |
hmm |
07:08 |
kaeza |
may i take a look at the skin? |
07:09 |
VanessaE |
hold a sec. |
07:09 |
VanessaE |
Oh, I know |
07:09 |
VanessaE |
you need to update your client. |
07:09 |
VanessaE |
it looks fine from my testuser client. |
07:09 |
VanessaE |
(which is up-to-date) |
07:09 |
kaeza |
ok |
07:10 |
kaeza |
the testuser also looks black from my client |
07:10 |
VanessaE |
yeah, better update. |
07:10 |
kaeza |
gonna rebuild |
07:10 |
VanessaE |
I remember taoki said clients would have to be updated to avoid weird transparency bugs |
07:10 |
VanessaE |
or something to that effect. |
07:12 |
kaeza |
do I need the latest minetest_game too? |
07:14 |
kaeza |
k |
07:14 |
kaeza |
building |
07:14 |
VanessaE |
yes |
07:14 |
VanessaE |
well, I think so |
07:14 |
VanessaE |
may as well have it on hand anyway |
07:15 |
khonkhortisan |
I see my flowing water mod is obsolete |
07:15 |
VanessaE |
yup |
07:15 |
khonkhortisan |
that's what I wanted |
07:15 |
VanessaE |
but the engine or game or whatever still needs tweaked |
07:16 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I don't have 0.4.4 yet |
07:16 |
VanessaE |
some angles and directions of flowing water look like they flow uphill |
07:16 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: grab the very latest git (engine and minetest_game) |
07:16 |
VanessaE |
no excuses :D |
07:18 |
VanessaE |
hey thomas |
07:18 |
khonkhortisan |
wow, that's odd. I'm using the programmer dvorak layout (which makes the 4 key be a } and a 3 when shifted). I'm typing in the address to the minetest server, and press right shift+3 and minetest starts connecting |
07:19 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: hah! you just joined as I was restarting the server |
07:19 |
VanessaE |
you may want to sign off/on again :-) |
07:20 |
khonkhortisan |
Client disconnected, instead of the server this time |
07:21 |
thomas |
hiya VanessaE :) |
07:21 |
* VanessaE |
watches khonkhortisan walk in mid-air :D |
07:21 |
khonkhortisan |
black screen of death |
07:21 |
khonkhortisan |
there's the nodes loading |
07:22 |
khonkhortisan |
and the talking segfault. |
07:22 |
VanessaE |
haha |
07:22 |
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07:22 |
* kaeza1 |
wants to kill the modem |
07:22 |
* khonkhortisan |
already did that, it won't save changes to settings |
07:22 |
VanessaE |
kaeza1: got the latest git? you may sign on at your leisure now |
07:23 |
kaeza1 |
yep. just finished building |
07:23 |
VanessaE |
excellent. |
07:24 |
kaeza |
almost in |
07:24 |
kaeza |
<VanessaE>some angles and directions of flowing water look like they flow uphill |
07:25 |
kaeza |
This is true |
07:26 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1086437274.png |
07:26 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan, that's you on the right, kaeza on left. |
07:27 |
kaeza |
core dumped |
07:27 |
VanessaE |
f10? |
07:27 |
kaeza |
nope |
07:27 |
kaeza |
just because |
07:27 |
khonkhortisan |
do the hands match the skins? |
07:27 |
VanessaE |
well sometimes I get random crashes, have for a long while now |
07:27 |
kaeza |
going in again |
07:27 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: in the default texture pack? not really I guess |
07:28 |
khonkhortisan |
A well-balanced game includes both constructive and destructive games |
07:28 |
khonkhortisan |
*well-balanced day |
07:28 |
khonkhortisan |
people should be drawn with blind eyeballs while they're connecting |
07:29 |
kaeza |
Next: Grand Theft Auto 0.4.5: Minetest City |
07:30 |
VanessaE |
lol |
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07:33 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1086261412.jpg |
07:33 |
celeron55 |
lol |
07:33 |
kaeza |
khonkhortisan: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1086268048.jpg |
07:33 |
VanessaE |
that's what I should look like :-) |
07:33 |
kaeza |
hey celeron |
07:33 |
khonkhortisan |
oops |
07:33 |
VanessaE |
hey c55. |
07:34 |
kaeza |
one more VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1086609987.jpg |
07:34 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: another crash? |
07:35 |
khonkhortisan |
if I press enter to talk |
07:35 |
VanessaE |
oh that |
07:35 |
kaeza |
I normally use 'T' to talk |
07:35 |
kaeza |
I don't use F10 |
07:36 |
khonkhortisan |
T say something enter vs. T say something click proceed |
07:36 |
VanessaE |
I usually hit t, type my text, then hit enter. |
07:36 |
kaeza |
this^ |
07:37 |
khonkhortisan |
and the user/pass/address/port boxes have a white background |
07:37 |
khonkhortisan |
instead of the normal gray |
07:37 |
VanessaE |
buggy irrlicht? |
07:37 |
khonkhortisan |
something in the way I compiled |
07:37 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah |
07:37 |
kaeza |
a problem with gfx driver perhaps? |
07:37 |
kaeza |
nvm |
07:38 |
khonkhortisan |
are carts default minetest_game? |
07:38 |
kaeza |
nope |
07:38 |
VanessaE |
no |
07:38 |
VanessaE |
tthey're still experimental yet |
07:38 |
kaeza |
yeah by experimental read "buggy" |
07:39 |
khonkhortisan |
can't go down this hill, it's scared of an itty-bitty bridge |
07:39 |
kaeza |
(hmm... that means a cart is a buggy?) |
07:39 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: have you tweaked the speed of carts? |
07:39 |
VanessaE |
no |
07:39 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/congestion_setting |
07:39 |
khonkhortisan |
I just did a u-turn at a t-intersection |
07:40 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: perfect! |
07:40 |
VanessaE |
well the interface to it anyway :-) |
07:40 |
khonkhortisan |
maybe it stops there because it goes down two nodes instead of one |
07:40 |
celeron55 |
it's not perfect |
07:40 |
celeron55 |
but that will help you a bit |
07:40 |
kaeza |
celeron55: +1000 |
07:41 |
kaeza |
if that works :) |
07:41 |
celeron55 |
if you raise congestion_control_aim_rtt or congestion_control_max_rate, it may kill the RTT of users that otherwise might have good RTT at the basic settings |
07:41 |
VanessaE |
+#congestion_control_aim_rtt = 0.2 <-- a measure of seconds? |
07:41 |
celeron55 |
anyway, try setting congestion_control_aim_rtt = 0.5 or so |
07:42 |
celeron55 |
and setting congestion_control_max_rate to much higher may be fun too, but might cause problems |
07:42 |
VanessaE |
right. |
07:42 |
celeron55 |
(that is in packets/s) |
07:42 |
khonkhortisan |
there should be a car system based on railroads where there are stop signs/traffic lights and you will go straight through the intersection unless you hit the switch, and the switch only affects your car, not the next one. Or switch into a turn lane and play a game of openttd/simutrans in minetest |
07:42 |
celeron55 |
actually |
07:42 |
VanessaE |
I shall experiment with these tomorrow when I have a clear-enough head (pretty tired now) |
07:42 |
kaeza |
khonkhortisan: O.O |
07:42 |
celeron55 |
you might want to just raise congestion_control_min_rate to 50 or so |
07:42 |
celeron55 |
with those parameters, there are no perfect settings |
07:43 |
celeron55 |
only settings worse in some way or another |
07:43 |
celeron55 |
s/worse/bad/ |
07:43 |
VanessaE |
right, but sometimes finding a good compromize is the best thing in lieu of some better method. |
07:43 |
VanessaE |
compromise* |
07:43 |
khonkhortisan |
If I approach a T-intersection from the top part of the letter T, with the switch facing towards me, I U-turn |
07:44 |
celeron55 |
the thing i'd first try is just raising congestion_control_aim_rtt much higher, and hope that it doesn't cog up the tubes to those who can get much smaller RTT |
07:44 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: yeah, those switches are sorta unpredictable, and the carts don't follow the visibly-drawn turn in the junction |
07:44 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: gotchya. |
07:44 |
khonkhortisan |
all it would take is to switch the visual, or draw all possibilities and be ambiguous |
07:45 |
khonkhortisan |
stand in the cart when you start it for a random start direction |
07:45 |
celeron55 |
also, the size of a packet is around 500 bytes, so 400 is 200kB/s |
07:45 |
celeron55 |
(or, well, the maximum size) |
07:46 |
khonkhortisan |
these would be great for art servers having amusement park rides where they go in scary caves |
07:48 |
khonkhortisan |
nice, deceleration on stopping. |
07:48 |
khonkhortisan |
now we need to tie switches to mesecons and do railroad logic :) |
07:49 |
VanessaE |
and figure out why the cart is, as you put it, afraid of a little bridge :-) |
07:50 |
khonkhortisan |
just put a baby on one of these, and have it climb a really long hill, and it'll rock the baby to sleep |
07:50 |
VanessaE |
hehe |
07:54 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: thanks for adding those settings. I appreciate it. |
08:02 |
kaeza |
you are using latest git VanessaE |
08:02 |
kaeza |
? |
08:03 |
VanessaE |
yup |
08:03 |
khonkhortisan |
I am, on her server |
08:03 |
kaeza |
It runs WAY better than before :) |
08:03 |
VanessaE |
well latest up to just before c55 added those congestion management controls. |
08:03 |
kaeza |
at most 2 sec lag |
08:03 |
kaeza |
which is normal (at least for me) |
08:04 |
VanessaE |
cool, I didn't do anything but update :-) |
08:05 |
VanessaE |
well the server's 24/7 now, or at least as long as my computer remains powered and connected :-) |
08:05 |
kaeza |
BTW nice toilet :) |
08:05 |
kaeza |
just for when you are in a hurry |
08:08 |
VanessaE |
heh |
08:09 |
VanessaE |
ok, bedtime ...try #2 |
08:09 |
VanessaE |
night all. |
08:10 |
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08:11 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Does it support LevelDB? |
08:11 |
OldCoder |
That is not an excuse |
08:11 |
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08:11 |
OldCoder |
Sort of mandatory for me |
09:33 |
thexyz |
commit 4e249fb3fbf75f0359758760d88e22aa5b14533c |
09:33 |
thexyz |
Author: Perttu Ahola <celeron55gmail.com> |
09:33 |
thexyz |
Date: Sat Nov 27 01:02:21 2010 +0200 |
09:33 |
thexyz |
Initial files |
09:33 |
thexyz |
happy birthday, minetest |
09:34 |
OldCoder |
Strike up the band! |
09:34 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, Hi. I have nearly caught up with things. May I find you here sometime this week? |
09:34 |
OldCoder |
What are good times? |
09:34 |
OldCoder |
I have merged some upstream patches with your code BTW |
09:34 |
OldCoder |
I have a pretty good copy of 0.4.3 |
09:45 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: well, more like happy version control day |
09:45 |
celeron55 |
it did exist for a couple of weeks before that |
09:46 |
thexyz |
that means we can celebrate several times |
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09:55 |
ruskie |
so basically november would be minetest month ;) |
09:56 |
celeron55 |
i started minetest in october |
09:56 |
ruskie |
so more than a couple of weeks then |
09:56 |
celeron55 |
hmm... apparently |
10:07 |
OldCoder |
ack |
10:07 |
OldCoder |
back I mean |
10:07 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, could we meet later in the week? If convenient for you? |
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10:08 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, I raised those settings already but have not built new clients yet; just servers |
10:08 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, BTW This is fun: PilzAdam unique avatars 2D: http://minetest.org/avatars.jpg |
10:09 |
thexyz |
OldCoder: probably |
10:09 |
OldCoder |
Any particular times good for you? |
10:10 |
OldCoder |
Of the day I mean |
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thexyz |
finished it, http://minetest.ru/prowseed-minetest-net/index.php |
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is resting |
14:06 |
thexyz |
celeron55: i've finished that new design http://minetest.ru/prowseed-minetest-net/index.php, any thoughts? |
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14:10 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: i have already commented on it long ago |
14:11 |
thexyz |
and your thoughts haven't changed, right? |
14:11 |
celeron55 |
not in any considerable way |
14:13 |
celeron55 |
if there are any serious web designers around, i am willing to try whipping up some amount of constructive criticism |
14:14 |
celeron55 |
otherwise, i'll just leave it at that; no reason to start a flame war |
14:14 |
thexyz |
you can just post it here http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3075 |
14:15 |
thexyz |
i guess that man is "serious web designer" enough |
14:17 |
celeron55 |
he hasn't posted anything on the forum for months |
14:18 |
thexyz |
so what? |
14:20 |
NekoGloop |
He's busy. Desinging webs. |
14:20 |
celeron55 |
i expect him to be long gone and replies to be wasted effort |
14:21 |
thexyz |
i don't think so |
14:21 |
thexyz |
we can contact him by email |
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14:36 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
14:50 |
NekoGloop |
Hello pilzadam |
14:51 |
PilzAdam |
the new 1 frame death animation is funny |
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15:39 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: It's better that way, since the ugly loop problem is fixed. If you want it to be smooth, animation blending will be possible to use for that, when Irrlicht fixes the bug it has with it |
15:39 |
Taoki |
The 1 frame animation is also easier to use for other things, like laying down in bed rather than just death |
15:40 |
PilzAdam |
i said nothing against it |
15:40 |
Taoki |
Sure. BTW: In the model, it's actually 5 frames. Since if I try to loop the same frame, the model just freezes in place. It's odd |
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15:41 |
Taoki |
But it works so no biggie |
15:41 |
PilzAdam |
should the selectionbox should be changed when dead? |
15:41 |
Taoki |
But now there's a stand, sit, and lay animation. Stand is standing default, sit will be for mods like chairs and carts, lay is used for death and can be used by mods like beds |
15:42 |
Taoki |
Can probably be done. Not important so I didn't look into it |
15:42 |
Taoki |
Not urgent at least |
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15:42 |
PilzAdam |
so the camera would fit to the model |
15:42 |
Taoki |
Bounding box should be possible to change where the animations are set |
15:42 |
Taoki |
But that can be done later, it's one of the little things |
15:43 |
PilzAdam |
currently the player that is dead doesnt know that he has the dead animation |
15:43 |
PilzAdam |
it just seems like you are still standing |
15:44 |
Calinou |
methinks "death" animation should use one frame of "lay" animation, and make the "lay" animation slightly animated (if this isn't the case already, haven't tested yet) |
15:44 |
Calinou |
so that dead players look dead, players laying do not :P |
15:45 |
PilzAdam |
sometimes sleeping people look like dead in RL |
15:45 |
Taoki |
Lay animation isn't animated, but doesn't need to be really |
15:45 |
Taoki |
Looks fine as is |
15:45 |
Calinou |
it looks like you are dead :P |
15:46 |
Calinou |
in minecraft when you're on a bed you still animate a bit |
15:46 |
Taoki |
Not much tio animate there either, for the blocky player especially |
15:46 |
Taoki |
didn't even notice that :P Some other time if anything |
15:46 |
Calinou |
also, is the lighting bug fixed? |
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15:46 |
Calinou |
(when you have 2+ players in view) |
15:46 |
Taoki |
Not by me, don't know how |
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16:16 |
jin_xi |
Taoki: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-11-25#i_2659388 |
16:17 |
Taoki |
ah, that explains the blackness bug with models and items / entities |
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Penguin |
hi |
16:26 |
* Calinou |
tried to make player yaw transitions smoother |
16:26 |
Calinou |
literally failed |
16:27 |
Calinou |
it broke everything when I tried to do it :3 |
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16:37 |
bulletrulz |
hi :) |
16:37 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, is your server up? |
16:37 |
PilzAdam |
hi bulletrulz |
16:37 |
PilzAdam |
hi john_minetest |
16:37 |
PilzAdam |
ooops |
16:38 |
PilzAdam |
hi jordan4ibanez |
16:38 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, what was the distro you were talking about last night? |
16:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
comiceos 4 |
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16:39 |
bulletrulz |
oh |
16:39 |
bulletrulz |
i tried that too osxey for me |
16:41 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, did u switch to it? |
16:41 |
Calinou |
lol |
16:41 |
Calinou |
unknown distros ftl |
16:41 |
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16:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtjW9Z_8ZCU |
16:42 |
Jordach |
Taoki - you implemented HATS!!!!?! |
16:42 |
Calinou |
HATS |
16:42 |
Calinou |
minetest is the new TF2 |
16:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
Now we are tf3 |
16:42 |
Jordach |
TROLOLOL |
16:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/117f2088263833a40b672b702fb215e52b88be5c wow |
16:43 |
bulletrulz |
pilz go back on the server |
16:43 |
Lumpio- |
Did I hear somebody say hats? |
16:43 |
PilzAdam |
hi Jordach |
16:43 |
PilzAdam |
bulletrulz, what server? |
16:44 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE, |
16:44 |
bulletrulz |
server |
16:44 |
Calinou |
hats are broken, jordan4ibanez |
16:44 |
Calinou |
Jordach* |
16:44 |
Calinou |
transparent zones become black |
16:45 |
Jordach |
i thought they were fixed |
16:48 |
NekoGloop |
Meow? |
16:49 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/5f798d944ee03beca205b107dda58bdc72dd2bf8 ? |
16:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
Is there a server where people have custom skins? |
16:50 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, VanessaE |
16:50 |
bulletrulz |
for 4.4 |
16:50 |
bulletrulz |
04/4 |
16:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
wat is ur survur vanussau |
16:50 |
bulletrulz |
but shes not online lol |
16:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
What is her server? |
16:50 |
PilzAdam |
minetest.ru:12345 is 0.4.4 too |
16:50 |
bulletrulz |
hold on |
16:51 |
bulletrulz |
24.181.193.82 30000 |
16:51 |
bulletrulz |
im on there too |
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16:53 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: ah, my git repo didn't update due to local changes :) |
16:54 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, update minetest.ru:12345 to latest git |
16:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
TO 24.181.193.82 |
16:54 |
bulletrulz |
lol :D |
16:54 |
bulletrulz |
for 0.4.4 |
16:55 |
PilzAdam |
see you next monday when media is downloaded ;-) |
16:55 |
bulletrulz |
media downloaded quick for me about 4 min |
16:56 |
PilzAdam |
on "normal" servers it takes 30 sec. max |
16:56 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE just installed millions of mods |
16:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
It's taking me 3 years to go |
16:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
Pilzadam, can you like post a tut on how to mount entities? lol |
16:57 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/blob/attachment/init.lua#L665 |
16:57 |
PilzAdam |
thats all |
16:58 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, just wait itll get faster |
16:59 |
Calinou |
http://ompldr.org/vZ2gxYw/screenshot_1120799023.png poor Player, he got killed by a torch. |
16:59 |
Calinou |
lol |
17:00 |
Calinou |
added skin for 3D player in misa's pack :) |
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kotolegokot |
hello everyone |
17:01 |
PilzAdam |
hi |
17:01 |
* Jordach |
zooms in, hats work fine Calinou |
17:02 |
kotolegokot |
how i can to fix image in inventory? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53677973/tmp/03452.png |
17:02 |
PilzAdam |
use inventory_image = "texture.png", in node definition? |
17:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
WHERE IS THE TRAMPOLINE CODE |
17:02 |
bulletrulz |
lol im stuck in the thing |
17:03 |
Calinou |
Jordach: yeah they do |
17:03 |
Jordach |
see |
17:03 |
Jordach |
this is not minecraft |
17:03 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: you mean inventory_image = minetest.inventorycube("texture.png") |
17:03 |
Jordach |
(the render is probably better) |
17:04 |
kotolegokot |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/1392139/ |
17:05 |
bulletrulz |
NOOOO FACE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mULx2qcsioY |
17:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
VanessaE where did you get the trampoline mod? |
17:07 |
PilzAdam |
jordan4ibanez, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2957 |
17:07 |
* NekoGloop |
plays shooter game |
17:07 |
* NekoGloop |
gets k/d ratio of 3:4 |
17:07 |
* NekoGloop |
fuuuuuuu-- |
17:07 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop - cod? |
17:07 |
Jordach |
bfxx? |
17:07 |
kotolegokot |
PilzAdam, If I will use inventory_image, I should draw many textures. That long. |
17:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
This group bouncy=20+i*20 |
17:08 |
NekoGloop |
Shadowgate: Deadzone |
17:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
wtf |
17:08 |
PilzAdam |
kotolegokot, i see the problem |
17:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can you draw an image on the gui yet? |
17:09 |
PilzAdam |
formspec or real gui? |
17:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
Real gui, could you mount a gui to the player? |
17:11 |
NekoGloop |
Not shadowgate. Derp |
17:11 |
NekoGloop |
Shadowgun. |
17:12 |
NakedFury |
is that game good? |
17:12 |
PilzAdam |
you mean minetest? |
17:12 |
NakedFury |
I have been trying to find a fun ipad shooter |
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17:13 |
VanessaE[L] |
boo. |
17:14 |
NakedFury |
boo |
17:14 |
NakedFury |
o/ |
17:14 |
VanessaE[L] |
hi |
17:14 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE[L], we have nice glass entities again: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/117f2088263833a40b672b702fb215e52b88be5c |
17:14 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: Yup |
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17:14 |
VanessaE[L] |
PilzAdam, er... |
17:14 |
VanessaE[L] |
heh |
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17:15 |
VanessaE[L] |
I was about to ask what I missed :-) |
17:15 |
PilzAdam |
c55 said me that inventory_image should override everything |
17:15 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE[L]: All hell breaking loose. :3 |
17:15 |
PilzAdam |
even the item_entity |
17:15 |
VanessaE[L] |
neko: lol |
17:15 |
NekoGloop |
How about drop_image? |
17:15 |
VanessaE[L] |
PilzAdam, well, to fix glass et.al maybe a different approach is needed. |
17:16 |
PilzAdam |
c55 already looked how to fix the "cube in inventory is dark" bug |
17:16 |
VanessaE[L] |
like figuring out why it's black in the inventory (without an inventory image) in the first place. |
17:16 |
VanessaE[L] |
oh ok |
17:17 |
PilzAdam |
but: <c55> PilzAdam: i'm afraid this thing will be left untouched for now |
17:17 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: Not quite my cup of tea but is not a bad game by any means. |
17:18 |
NakedFury |
its kind of sad how not many developers actually take advantage of the ipad, or tablet |
17:18 |
NakedFury |
keep releasing crap shooter ports |
17:18 |
PilzAdam |
apple is evil |
17:18 |
PilzAdam |
and shouldnt be supported |
17:18 |
VanessaE[L] |
NakedFury, well apple doesn't make it particularly easy to develop for it do they? |
17:18 |
VanessaE[L] |
(as opposed to an open system like a PC) |
17:19 |
PilzAdam |
heh, "Lets realease a not programmable PC" |
17:19 |
NakedFury |
apple are pros when it comes to getting people to spend $600 yearly for new products |
17:19 |
VanessaE[L] |
NakedFury, haha |
17:19 |
Jordach |
NakedFury - bs, my ipad2 is still as fast as it was two years ago |
17:20 |
NakedFury |
unless you jailbrake the ipad or iphone or itouch they are incomplete crap products |
17:20 |
PilzAdam |
but everyone wants them |
17:20 |
* PilzAdam |
not |
17:20 |
NakedFury |
bunch or small fixes can only be done with cydia stuff |
17:20 |
NakedFury |
example no wishlist on the itunes store |
17:20 |
NakedFury |
so simple yet not present ever |
17:21 |
VanessaE[L] |
brb |
17:21 |
NakedFury |
limited folders and apps in folders |
17:21 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: Shadowgun is only a tad laggy. |
17:22 |
NekoGloop |
Which is probably just my internet. |
17:22 |
NakedFury |
also big lack of quality strategy games here |
17:23 |
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17:24 |
NekoGloop |
Try bloons tower defense. |
17:25 |
NakedFury |
already played it on kongregate |
17:25 |
Kray |
yes |
17:25 |
NakedFury |
and I mean real time strategies or turn based strategies not tower defense |
17:25 |
NakedFury |
age of empires, simcity, civilizations style |
17:25 |
NakedFury |
the ipad would be perfect with some control fixes |
17:25 |
Kray |
yes |
17:26 |
Kray |
nope |
17:26 |
Jordach |
NakedFury - yes it would, but the ipad is objective-c, not c++ |
17:26 |
VanessaE[L] |
john_minetest, grab it from sources. |
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17:27 |
VanessaE[L] |
you have to compile it yourself for now. |
17:27 |
* Jordach |
hates itunes' way of ordering music by ablum, album artist |
17:28 |
NakedFury |
iTunes and App store really need a Wishlist tab |
17:28 |
NakedFury |
"ohh I can't buy this now, let me place on whislist so I won't forget" |
17:29 |
Jordach |
or just use notes app like i do |
17:29 |
Jordach |
problem solved |
17:29 |
Kray |
john_minetest: 0.4.4 isn't released yet? |
17:30 |
Jordach |
kray - get back to EVE online |
17:30 |
VanessaE[L] |
Kray, source code from github. |
17:30 |
VanessaE[L] |
come on people, learn to compile :-) |
17:30 |
Jordach |
VanessaE[L] - i know |
17:30 |
celeron55 |
Kray: it isn't released yet |
17:30 |
Kray |
I don't see tag for 0.4.4 |
17:31 |
Jordach |
a simple cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 and a make -j4 |
17:31 |
Jordach |
problemo solved |
17:31 |
VanessaE[L] |
Jordach, some people are still relegated to windows. :-) |
17:31 |
Jordach |
(im a windows guy and its easy) |
17:31 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE[L]: have you used the network parameters by now? |
17:31 |
VanessaE[L] |
celeron55, not yet, I haven't had a chance to work with it - just got up about an hour ago. |
17:32 |
* Jordach |
smells the aroma of bacon |
17:32 |
* Jordach |
drools |
17:32 |
celeron55 |
i'm waiting for you to see if one can get any practical benefit from them before including them upstream |
17:32 |
* john_minetest |
just ate but hungry again... |
17:32 |
NakedFury |
ohh thats me Jordach, baked potato with cheese and bacon |
17:32 |
Jordach |
mmmm, bacon + egg + baked beans + mushrooms |
17:32 |
Jordach |
and of course toast |
17:32 |
bulletrulz |
back |
17:33 |
VanessaE[L] |
celeron55, a lit later today I will check. |
17:33 |
NekoGloop |
Chimichangas. |
17:33 |
sokomine |
ok. tell me when the testserver is up again with the new network code |
17:33 |
sokomine |
hi, btw :-) |
17:33 |
VanessaE[L] |
willdo, sokomine |
17:34 |
VanessaE[L] |
for now, others are saying it's working far better now, so you might want to play with it some |
17:35 |
sokomine |
shall i compile a new version or is that one from yesterday still current? |
17:35 |
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17:35 |
VanessaE[L] |
compile a new one. hats code got pushed :-) |
17:35 |
hummer |
Hello |
17:35 |
VanessaE[L] |
hi hummer |
17:35 |
hummer |
Russian here? |
17:35 |
VanessaE[L] |
no |
17:35 |
sokomine |
hmpf. i hate firefox eating up computing time while idling |
17:35 |
hummer |
Can help with the landscape generator? |
17:36 |
VanessaE[L] |
sokomine, maybe 18 will be better with that ionmonkey script engine. |
17:36 |
Jordach |
or chromium |
17:36 |
Jordach |
no lag |
17:36 |
Jordach |
>:D |
17:36 |
VanessaE[L] |
heh |
17:36 |
hummer |
in what files to be functions of generation of the world |
17:37 |
NekoGloop |
Maybe internet explorer would be better. |
17:37 |
PilzAdam |
anyone know the Pope emoticon? +<:-) |
17:37 |
VanessaE[L] |
haha |
17:37 |
bulletrulz |
NekoGloop hahahah internet explorer whats wrong with u |
17:38 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, prepare to wait 3 years to load media |
17:38 |
VanessaE[L] |
irrlicht bug. |
17:38 |
sokomine |
well, it's not exactly lag. it just causes load for no apparent reason. cpu cycles that could be used by minetest :) |
17:38 |
hummer |
?--in what files to be functions of generation of the world--? |
17:38 |
PilzAdam |
if i select it in Klipper (KDE) I can paste it in main menu |
17:39 |
marktraceur |
hummer: Usually mapgen.cpp and mapgen.hpp IIRC |
17:39 |
VanessaE[L] |
PilzAdam, for some reason, copy&paste doesn't work for everone, in linux |
17:39 |
PilzAdam |
marktraceur, hpp????? |
17:39 |
marktraceur |
Errr, .h? |
17:39 |
sokomine |
hummer: at which level do you want to change world generation? mod or mt-code? |
17:40 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: Some projects use .cpp/.hpp, others use .cpp/.h |
17:40 |
VanessaE[L] |
what's a .hpp? some evil hybrid of a .h and .cpp file? :-) |
17:40 |
marktraceur |
Some actually use .c++, though that doesn't make much sense. |
17:40 |
PilzAdam |
never heard about hpp |
17:40 |
OldCoder |
Back |
17:40 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE[L]: It's just a way of specifying that the header file is for C++. |
17:40 |
sokomine |
john_minetest: you'll eventually arrive on the server. get a cup of coffee and relax :) at least it's faster the second time... |
17:40 |
VanessaE[L] |
whoosh :-) |
17:41 |
hummer |
sokomine: I write game on similarity of minecraft but only also realistic purposes are used 3д models, there is no only world generation. Game I write on with ++ FrameWork |
17:41 |
VanessaE[L] |
yeah, it'll take a while to download the media |
17:42 |
VanessaE[L] |
I killed off that ambiance mod, which was temporary anyway. That helped considerably but didn't solve the issue of course |
17:42 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE[L], maybe just dont install a googolplexplex of mods? |
17:42 |
hummer |
who will help with a question of generation of the world? skype: bond_russia |
17:43 |
VanessaE[L] |
celeron55, I think it would be a good idea for the server not to announce to everyone that a client has connected, until the client starts actually displaying the world to the player. |
17:43 |
VanessaE[L] |
PilzAdam, well that helps some :-) |
17:44 |
sokomine |
true. it's irritating if a player is supposed to be there already - has logged in according to message, is visible in the game - but will not actually be there for half an hour until the media got transmitted |
17:44 |
sokomine |
ah. this time it was all much faster |
17:46 |
bulletrulz |
lag lol |
17:46 |
VanessaE[L] |
ain't my fault :-) |
17:46 |
VanessaE[L] |
I'm not even on the server right now :-) |
17:46 |
bulletrulz |
lol nothing your fault it is lol jk |
17:46 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE[L], did you know that you have more mods installed than protons exist in the universe? |
17:47 |
VanessaE[L] |
(my anemic little laptop can barely push 15fps with my 64px pack (and 20 with default) |
17:47 |
VanessaE[L] |
PilzAdam, yeah, so? :D |
17:47 |
bulletrulz |
it says uare |
17:48 |
PilzAdam |
there are 10^80 protons and you have a googolplexplex = 10^100^(10^100^(10^100)) mods |
17:48 |
VanessaE[L] |
it does? |
17:48 |
VanessaE[L] |
odd. |
17:48 |
VanessaE[L] |
PilzAdam, a googleplex is 10 ^ (10 ^100) |
17:48 |
VanessaE[L] |
:-) |
17:48 |
PilzAdam |
i said googolplexPLEX |
17:48 |
VanessaE[L] |
oh haha |
17:48 |
VanessaE[L] |
shit. |
17:49 |
bulletrulz |
\i think i should go fuck with people on mumble |
17:49 |
VanessaE[L] |
and I said "google-" instead of "googol-" |
17:49 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: googolplex |
17:49 |
* VanessaE[L] |
hands in her geek card. |
17:49 |
* PilzAdam |
burns it |
17:49 |
VanessaE[L] |
yeah I know. damn corporations :D |
17:49 |
celeron55 |
tuning the values in the right way should do much good to media load time |
17:50 |
celeron55 |
actually, the branch might transfer media already faster because it changes one thing (probably not) |
17:50 |
VanessaE[L] |
when I get back to my PC I'll fiddle with that |
17:50 |
bulletrulz |
VanessaE[L], |
17:50 |
bulletrulz |
start a mumble server lol |
17:51 |
sokomine |
btw, the stairsplus-nodes are most of the time not visible in the inventory (their images) |
17:51 |
VanessaE[L] |
mumble? why> |
17:51 |
VanessaE[L] |
sokomine, those work fine on my PC and my laptop? |
17:51 |
VanessaE[L] |
brb |
17:52 |
bulletrulz |
so people can tlak on mic lol |
17:52 |
sokomine |
no matter what server i most of the time get half of them as inventory images at max |
17:52 |
sokomine |
but i don't remember how much memory i gave to the onboard grapics card. hm. perhaps not much... |
17:53 |
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17:53 |
Penguin |
hi |
17:55 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: updated now |
17:57 |
PilzAdam |
k |
17:59 |
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18:00 |
VanessaE[L] |
sokomine, out of graphics memory> |
18:00 |
VanessaE[L] |
? |
18:01 |
rubenwardy |
bloody hell, my temp forum already has spam |
18:01 |
sokomine |
most likely, yes |
18:01 |
VanessaE[L] |
rubenwardy, sowwy |
18:02 |
PilzAdam |
hi rubenwardy |
18:03 |
NekoGloop |
Go figure |
18:05 |
rubenwardy |
why are you VanessaE[L]? |
18:06 |
VanessaE[L] |
because. :-) |
18:06 |
VanessaE[L] |
(I'm on my laptop.) |
18:06 |
NakedFury |
she is late? |
18:06 |
NakedFury |
ohh laptop |
18:06 |
NekoGloop |
Because she's [Lost] |
18:06 |
NakedFury |
could also be VanessaE[M] for mobile |
18:07 |
sokomine |
hmm. i want an npc that does the roof of a house :-) |
18:08 |
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18:08 |
Jordach |
hello nekoGloop |
18:08 |
bulletrulz |
sokomine, it was lagging |
18:08 |
InuGloop |
Woof. |
18:09 |
sokomine |
most of the time it seems to work now (more or less - some lag is always there...) |
18:09 |
sokomine |
it still laggs considerably when using creative inv |
18:09 |
* Jordach |
is working on a female model skin |
18:09 |
Jordach |
-model |
18:10 |
Taoki |
Jordach: Yes, hats are implemented now. So all MineCraft skins will work |
18:10 |
Jordach |
super sweet |
18:11 |
VanessaE[L] |
yes and they look good |
18:11 |
VanessaE[L] |
sokomine, care to link to that last good screenshot of me? |
18:11 |
* InuGloop |
got a 7:1 k/d ratio woot! |
18:15 |
bulletrulz |
inu gllop is nekogloop |
18:16 |
Jordach |
we know |
18:16 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
18:16 |
OldCoder |
Let NekoGloop figure out who he wishes to be |
18:16 |
bulletrulz |
a boy or a girl LOL XD |
18:16 |
OldCoder |
Let it go |
18:17 |
bulletrulz |
OldCoder, what the name of your os? |
18:17 |
InuGloop |
inu is dog. neko is cat |
18:18 |
bulletrulz |
lol WTF |
18:18 |
* Jordach |
knows a lot of japanese |
18:18 |
OldCoder |
InuGloop, that makes sense in a way |
18:18 |
OldCoder |
InuYasha |
18:18 |
OldCoder |
Like that? |
18:18 |
OldCoder |
Is InuGloop an inushounen? |
18:19 |
OldCoder |
Or, rather, *was* InuGloop an inushounen? |
18:19 |
PilzAdam |
wtf?!? |
18:19 |
OldCoder |
PilzAdam, ? |
18:19 |
PilzAdam |
did I just saw a dog transforming to a cat?!?! |
18:19 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
18:19 |
NekoGloop |
Yes. Yes you did. |
18:19 |
OldCoder |
Woofmeow |
18:19 |
bulletrulz |
PilzAdam, YEP |
18:19 |
Jordach |
oh christ, what have we done!!!! |
18:19 |
Jordach |
O.O |
18:19 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
18:19 |
OldCoder |
It is no big deal |
18:20 |
* Jordach |
sneaks off |
18:20 |
* NekoGloop |
yawns |
18:20 |
OldCoder |
Dogs into cats are an everyday occurrence surely |
18:20 |
* bulletrulz |
cathes Jordach |
18:20 |
OldCoder |
cats Jordach? |
18:20 |
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18:20 |
Jordach |
i like TRAINS |
18:20 |
bulletrulz |
a train hits jordach |
18:20 |
OldCoder |
A train of thought |
18:21 |
* NekoGloop |
meow |
18:21 |
bulletrulz |
trololololololololololololololololololololololololololoolololololololololololololollololololol |
18:22 |
bulletrulz |
;p |
18:22 |
Jordach |
wait, did neko use a silent /nick? |
18:22 |
NekoGloop |
What? |
18:23 |
NekoGloop |
No, you just didnt notice me changing nicks. |
18:23 |
Jordach |
oh yes, there was a /nick |
18:25 |
* Jordach |
is trying HD skins |
18:27 |
* john_minetest |
exists |
18:28 |
bulletrulz |
OldCoder, did u try qupzilla? |
18:29 |
* rubenwardy |
is thinking about the life, universe and... |
18:29 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, I won't be able to build it until December or January |
18:29 |
bulletrulz |
lol why? |
18:29 |
bulletrulz |
OldCoder, why? |
18:29 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, I am under water with things; over my head |
18:29 |
OldCoder |
Trying to straighten everything out |
18:30 |
bulletrulz |
well your gonna drown lol |
18:30 |
OldCoder |
That's a cheerful thought bulletrulz :-) |
18:30 |
OldCoder |
Thank you for the support! |
18:31 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy 42? |
18:31 |
rubenwardy |
everything |
18:31 |
rubenwardy |
== 42 :D |
18:32 |
Jordach |
OldCoder - some monty python: he's not the messiah; he's a very naughty boy! |
18:32 |
OldCoder |
k |
18:34 |
rubenwardy |
i didnt vote for you! |
18:37 |
bulletrulz |
OldCoder, wtf |
18:37 |
bulletrulz |
xDDD |
18:37 |
rubenwardy |
monty python quotes |
18:37 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy - a test of a hd skin http://i.imgur.com/yxZiZ.png |
18:38 |
VanessaE[L] |
that is HD? |
18:38 |
OldCoder |
bulletrulz, ? |
18:38 |
VanessaE[L] |
nice though,. |
18:38 |
OldCoder |
High Definition I assume |
18:38 |
Jordach |
thats a 2x the size of a normal |
18:38 |
Jordach |
(faces have 8x, this being 16x) |
18:38 |
VanessaE[L] |
that ain't HD but it is nice |
18:38 |
Jordach |
also, 16px mt logo |
18:40 |
VanessaE[L] |
to call it HD it needs to be like 128px across by 256px vertically |
18:40 |
VanessaE[L] |
(relative to the whole model) |
18:41 |
Jordach |
hell no |
18:41 |
Jordach |
anything above default is hd |
18:41 |
Jordach |
because it contains more pixels |
18:42 |
VanessaE[L] |
then half the mods for MT are HD including some nodes in homedecor :-) |
18:42 |
bulletrulz |
mijyns new game |
18:42 |
bulletrulz |
https://t.co/juocc5bh |
18:47 |
bulletrulz |
gonna play some freedm onlinr |
18:50 |
PilzAdam |
brb |
18:50 |
VanessaE[L] |
bbl |
18:51 |
VanessaE[L] |
or rather, moving to the PC where I can see wtf I'm doing. One screen ain't enough :D |
18:51 |
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18:51 |
Jordach |
vanessaE - http://imgur.com/a/bP0Xy |
18:51 |
Jordach |
theres a difference. but its the same t |
18:51 |
Jordach |
+p |
18:51 |
rubenwardy |
(6:37:52 PM) Jordach: rubenwardy - a test of a hd skin http://i.imgur.com/yxZiZ.png |
18:51 |
rubenwardy |
cool |
18:53 |
Jordach |
jeezus h. the ipad is louder than my old droid tab |
18:54 |
Jordach |
my headphones are reaching almost 90db with my mic testing |
18:55 |
VanessaE |
there. a normal keyboard, two normal monitors, and a normal chair and desk. :-) |
18:55 |
Jordach |
vanessaE |
18:55 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/a/bP0Xy find the difference |
18:55 |
Calinou |
multiscreen on linux? oh you made it work, you deserve nobel prize |
18:56 |
Calinou |
:> |
18:56 |
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18:56 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: btw, no it doesn't use leveldb (you asked earlier, I didn't see it till just now) |
18:56 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: nVidia 99, ATI 4. :-) |
18:57 |
VanessaE |
dual-screen "just works" on ATI drivers :-) |
18:57 |
Calinou |
nvidia too |
18:57 |
Jordach |
same for windows :3 |
18:57 |
Calinou |
you can even choose what to do: separate x server, twinview... |
18:57 |
PilzAdam |
what is this script for? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/master/util/wireshark |
18:58 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ty. I am committed to LevelDB now and I recommend it be merged into main. |
18:59 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: have you guys solved the cross-compatibility issue with old maps? |
19:00 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Which one? |
19:00 |
OldCoder |
The SQLite3 export issue? yes |
19:00 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, did you upgrade europe yet? |
19:00 |
OldCoder |
Can go back and forth |
19:00 |
VanessaE |
about automatically importing old sql maps |
19:00 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, No |
19:00 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Not following. I can convert back and forth if that is what you mean. |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
WorldEdit can be used reliably too |
19:01 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: well remember that before, you had to make changes to the program and/or world config files to force it to use leveldb? |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
Though not for entire maps; too large |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, the world.mt file must be edited to specify the desired mode. No changes are required now to the main config. |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, It is a one-line change. Makes sense as the engine still supports both modes. |
19:02 |
VanessaE |
what about defaulting to leveldb for new worlds? |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I could make that change easily |
19:02 |
VanessaE |
I recommend it. |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
It would be trivial I think |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
Very well |
19:02 |
VanessaE |
the less things a new user has to edit in their configs, the better. |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, sure |
19:03 |
Jordach |
yeah, like how mc, always converts the old format into the new |
19:05 |
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19:05 |
Penguin |
hey |
19:06 |
Penguin |
? |
19:08 |
VanessaE |
celeron55, sokomine, anyone else who wants to test it, the test server with congestions_settings is up, with the previously-discussed congestion_control_min_rate = 50 added to the config. Running a copy of the same world, same collection of mods, same skins, and otherwise the same config file as the main server. |
19:08 |
VanessaE |
24.181.193.82 port 30001 for congestion_settings (port 30000 for the master branch) |
19:10 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy - your player skin forum needs a download all for packaging for PilzAdam's mod |
19:14 |
Jordach |
hm, i've been working on a "super" file type |
19:14 |
khonkhortisan |
carts clone themselves now |
19:14 |
Jordach |
uh-oh |
19:15 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: saw that. don't know how to fix it. PilzAdam, that's your call :-) |
19:16 |
PilzAdam |
hm, what? |
19:16 |
VanessaE |
carts. that's your mod is it not? |
19:16 |
PilzAdam |
yep, let me read the log |
19:16 |
VanessaE |
they're cloning themselves occasionally, and sometimes won't go down a hill. |
19:16 |
khonkhortisan |
right-click a cart, get one in the inventory, the cart stays there |
19:16 |
sokomine |
ah |
19:16 |
rubenwardy |
(7:10:54 PM) Jordach: rubenwardy - your player skin forum needs a download all for packaging for PilzAdam's mod |
19:16 |
rubenwardy |
What do you mean? As in a program that fetches each persons skin? |
19:17 |
Jordach |
nono, like hitting zipball on github |
19:17 |
rubenwardy |
http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/avatar/files/ |
19:17 |
VanessaE |
no one wants to try out the 0.4.4 congestion_settings branch? |
19:17 |
sokomine |
the not getting down a hill seems to be in combination with turns. turn + height change -> doesn't work from one side (might still work from the other side) |
19:17 |
VanessaE |
(your regular 0.4.4 should suffice I guess?_ |
19:18 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, cloning carts are an engine bug |
19:18 |
sokomine |
item and node definition have arrived. waiting for media |
19:19 |
sokomine |
seems to have arrived |
19:19 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: did you clear your minetest cache? |
19:19 |
sokomine |
no....ought to have done that i think |
19:19 |
VanessaE |
yeah, log out, clear it, log in |
19:19 |
sokomine |
but at least i didn't get that one-minute-delay like yesterday |
19:19 |
VanessaE |
let's see what this baby can do :D |
19:19 |
khonkhortisan |
Remember the dirt_with_grass-desert_sand transition? It looks right if they're at the same height, but if the dirt is placed one node above the sand, there's holes in the dirt. |
19:19 |
sokomine |
where's the cache stored? |
19:20 |
VanessaE |
~/.minetest/cache |
19:20 |
VanessaE |
just delete the whole subdir |
19:20 |
* sokomine |
looks frighened |
19:20 |
VanessaE |
lol |
19:20 |
sokomine |
well, you're not the one who has to wait until all that media arrives again :-) |
19:20 |
VanessaE |
yeah it'll make all servers take a while to reload, but it's *worth* it :D |
19:20 |
sokomine |
i'll just move it away |
19:20 |
* VanessaE |
watches the netowrk meter |
19:20 |
VanessaE |
network* |
19:21 |
VanessaE |
waiting for you :-) |
19:22 |
sokomine |
connecting again |
19:22 |
khonkhortisan |
oh that toilet. |
19:22 |
VanessaE |
max 20 kB/sec, averaging about 12. |
19:22 |
* khonkhortisan |
feels slow |
19:22 |
sokomine |
well...the % number does visibly increase |
19:23 |
VanessaE |
max 30kB/sec, averaging about 15. |
19:23 |
sokomine |
hangs now at 8%... |
19:23 |
sokomine |
9... |
19:23 |
sokomine |
might make it today :-) |
19:23 |
sokomine |
seems faster than the old version already |
19:23 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/avatar/zipball.php |
19:23 |
VanessaE |
this seems notably faster |
19:23 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy - thanks |
19:23 |
VanessaE |
but still far below my max.. |
19:23 |
Jordach |
now its easier to include them with PilzAdam's mod |
19:24 |
sokomine |
well, my max download rate is 1/3 of your upload rate, so...it will take time with a lot of mods |
19:24 |
VanessaE |
congestion_control_aim_rtt = 0.2 <-- lets tweak this to 0.75 and see what it breaks :D |
19:24 |
sokomine |
28% |
19:24 |
VanessaE |
soko: oh you're flooding your downlink already? |
19:24 |
sokomine |
but such a number at least gives hope |
19:24 |
sokomine |
don't think so. just wanted to say that my download isn't that high and will not be able to fill your upload |
19:25 |
VanessaE |
oh ok. |
19:25 |
VanessaE |
alright, close it off. |
19:25 |
VanessaE |
lemme tweak that other setting. |
19:25 |
VanessaE |
maybe 0.6 is right. |
19:25 |
sokomine |
hmpf :-( i already got 59% :) |
19:25 |
sokomine |
but tweak it |
19:25 |
VanessaE |
ok, clear your cache and try again |
19:26 |
sokomine |
it was considerably faster and did transmit ~5 mb |
19:26 |
sokomine |
ok...trying again |
19:26 |
VanessaE |
oh yeah, it's moving faster now |
19:26 |
VanessaE |
seems to be averaging 25-30 kB/sec |
19:27 |
VanessaE |
at my end anyway |
19:27 |
VanessaE |
well it was :-) |
19:27 |
sokomine |
10% |
19:27 |
VanessaE |
what's your ping time to me? |
19:27 |
* khonkhortisan |
doesn't agree with /giveme being a different privilage than creative |
19:28 |
sokomine |
around 125 ms |
19:28 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: sure, simple: you shouldn't be able to get say water source in creative if the admin doesn't want it to be there, but still get it with a /giveme if you have that priv |
19:28 |
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19:28 |
* sokomine |
nods to khonkhortisan and has thought the same a few minutes ago while trying to build with a too-slow creative inv |
19:28 |
sokomine |
givme would have been faster i think |
19:28 |
khonkhortisan |
well, I meant I should be able to skip to the last item in the creative list without clicking the button 65 times |
19:29 |
khonkhortisan |
huh. Carts don't stack. |
19:29 |
sokomine |
and maybe filling part of the inv automaticly with predefined things, e.g. "bathroom", "kitchen", "doors", "light", "stairs", ... |
19:29 |
sokomine |
might be faster to do that in one go |
19:30 |
sokomine |
70% |
19:30 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: RBA has a "unified inventory" that remedies that. |
19:30 |
sokomine |
definitely faster than previously |
19:31 |
sokomine |
(the automatic filling beeing subject to buttons pressed or commands typed in) |
19:31 |
sokomine |
81% |
19:31 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: much better. |
19:31 |
sokomine |
definitely |
19:31 |
VanessaE |
now I need someone with a good, fat pipe to try it. |
19:31 |
khonkhortisan |
Having played open transport tycoon deluxe and simutrans, I will be playing with the rails. |
19:31 |
VanessaE |
brb |
19:32 |
khonkhortisan |
know what page the signal is on? |
19:32 |
sokomine |
just make sure you don't go up or down immediately after a turn. that does not seem to work |
19:33 |
khonkhortisan |
If I'm going down a mine shaft, and it splits into three directions, how would I decide which direction to go without the possibility of whizzing by the switch? |
19:33 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Does this new version have working carts? |
19:33 |
khonkhortisan |
some bugs |
19:33 |
khonkhortisan |
duplication, stopping down hills |
19:33 |
marktraceur |
khonkhortisan: Do carts keep moving through block boundaries? |
19:34 |
marktraceur |
khonkhortisan: i.e. if the block isn't loaded at the time |
19:34 |
khonkhortisan |
not that I've noticed. I know movestones do that |
19:34 |
marktraceur |
Hrm. |
19:34 |
marktraceur |
Bollocks to movestones and bollocks to carts not moving if they hit unloaded blocks. |
19:35 |
marktraceur |
I can walk anyway |
19:35 |
sokomine |
well, and moving up/downhill is strange since it is rather hopping than gliding :-) but that's a minor problem |
19:35 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah, it makes roller coasters not fun |
19:35 |
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19:37 |
thexyz |
does anybody know what's the license of http://api.minetest.net contents? |
19:37 |
sokomine |
using creative inv is still so slow that it's almost unusable |
19:37 |
rubenwardy |
thexyz: i wrote the "getting started" page |
19:38 |
rubenwardy |
that is wtfpl |
19:38 |
thexyz |
because i'm planning to convert this one to mediawiki and don't know which license to use |
19:39 |
thexyz |
cc0 is fine for documentation, isn't it? |
19:40 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, CC-BY-NC-SA ? |
19:41 |
Jordach |
OldCoder thats my license |
19:41 |
OldCoder |
k |
19:41 |
Jordach |
(what i use often) |
19:41 |
thexyz |
OldCoder: i don't like NC part |
19:41 |
Calinou |
CC BY FTW |
19:41 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, there are multiple variations of course |
19:43 |
Calinou |
unrelated: anyone hosts a server with latest git? |
19:43 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: I do. |
19:43 |
Calinou |
minetest.ru:12345 is empty |
19:43 |
thexyz |
and i don't understand "attribution" part (in relation to wiki), should i attribute anybody who modified that page? |
19:44 |
thexyz |
Calinou: it's up (at least) |
19:44 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: 0.4.4 built about half an hour ago, 24.181.193.82 port 30001 if you wanna help me test the congestion_settings or port 30000 for the master branch |
19:44 |
VanessaE |
(the world on 30001 is a temporary copy of the world on 30000) |
19:45 |
Calinou |
thexyz: that's why CC licenses get quickly annoying for wikis :/ |
19:45 |
Calinou |
then use something like CC0 or WTFPL... |
19:45 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: wrong one, use port 30001. |
19:47 |
thexyz |
Calinou: then there's problem with code samples, as they will often be non cc0-compatible (like minimal or minetest_game) |
19:50 |
khonkhortisan |
Could not open file of texture: character.png ... Loaded mesh: character.x |
19:50 |
khonkhortisan |
PNG warning: Interlace handling should be turned on when using png_read_image ... you people look black now |
19:51 |
jin_xi |
wtf VanessaE is your server ever not shutting down ;) |
19:51 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi: I restarted it to remove an obsolete setting. |
19:51 |
VanessaE |
try again. |
19:52 |
VanessaE |
wow, now THAT's what I'm talking about. |
19:52 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi gets > 50 KB/sec. |
19:52 |
VanessaE |
that's an order of magnitude better than before. |
19:55 |
khonkhortisan |
aah! I built a four-loop circular railroad and it threw the cart |
19:55 |
khonkhortisan |
10 nodes away from a turn |
19:55 |
VanessaE |
lol |
19:56 |
Calinou |
when trying to start a second MT instance, I get this: X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) |
19:56 |
Calinou |
wtf |
19:56 |
Calinou |
never seen this before :| |
19:56 |
VanessaE |
out of video mem? |
19:56 |
Calinou |
how can I check? :P |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
no clue |
19:57 |
Calinou |
there, started two instances |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi: you alive on the congestion_setting server? |
19:59 |
PilzAdam |
gtg; bye |
20:01 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi, turn your F2 chat back on you schmuck :) |
20:03 |
sokomine |
connecting a second time is really fast now |
20:03 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: the congestion settings help with download speeds, but access to the creative inventory is still laggy (for jin_xi anyway) |
20:04 |
sokomine |
for me too. changing a page, taking something out of creative inv, putting something in the trash-field...all that takes too long |
20:05 |
VanessaE |
is there a particular reason the client can't predict that stuff and just..go? |
20:06 |
VanessaE |
like with digging/placing nodes |
20:06 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: do you have the sql dump? |
20:08 |
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20:08 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE: the reason is that implementing such prediction on the existing system explodes brains |
20:08 |
VanessaE |
lol |
20:08 |
VanessaE |
ok, fair enough :D |
20:08 |
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20:08 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: you gonna clear your cache and sign in to the server or what? :-) |
20:08 |
celeron55 |
i might try |
20:08 |
VanessaE |
ok |
20:09 |
rubenwardy |
bye all |
20:09 |
VanessaE |
ciao rubenwardy |
20:09 |
thexyz |
celeron55: of what? |
20:09 |
celeron55 |
i need to build master first though |
20:09 |
VanessaE |
oh ok. |
20:09 |
celeron55 |
i was doing something completely different |
20:10 |
VanessaE |
no problem, you said you were waiting, but I don't want to harass |
20:10 |
VanessaE |
(much :D ) |
20:11 |
thexyz |
http://i.imgur.com/fDmgi.png |
20:12 |
thexyz |
i'll just convert current api site to mediawiki one and then ask celeron55 to replace it |
20:13 |
celeron55 |
so you do have the sql? |
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20:13 |
celeron55 |
maybe i don't need to ask that... |
20:13 |
celeron55 |
cornernote didn't mention any license, but he clearly wanted people to continue using and improving it, so maybe we'll just go with CC BY-SA like minetest generally does |
20:14 |
celeron55 |
(for the license issue) |
20:15 |
thexyz |
celeron55: no, i don't have it |
20:15 |
celeron55 |
http://c55.me/random/2012-11/minetest_api_2012-11-08.sql |
20:15 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: it's GPL v3 |
20:15 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-game_wiki |
20:15 |
celeron55 |
not the same thin |
20:15 |
celeron55 |
+g |
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20:15 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
20:15 |
thexyz |
celeron55: thanks, though i guess that'd not help |
20:15 |
VanessaE |
oops, you're right. I misread that |
20:15 |
* VanessaE |
sighs |
20:16 |
celeron55 |
VanessaE: the server loads slow as hell |
20:17 |
celeron55 |
:30001 one |
20:17 |
celeron55 |
not better than :30000 at all |
20:17 |
VanessaE |
what's your ping time to me? |
20:17 |
celeron55 |
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 152.387/156.889/163.729/4.082 ms |
20:17 |
VanessaE |
hrm. Not bad. |
20:18 |
celeron55 |
i'll see what happens if i use the branch too |
20:19 |
VanessaE |
ok |
20:19 |
celeron55 |
what congestion_control_aim_rtt do you have there currently? |
20:19 |
VanessaE |
0.6 |
20:20 |
VanessaE |
min_rate is 50 as previously suggested. |
20:20 |
celeron55 |
raising both so much is probably not a good idea |
20:21 |
VanessaE |
probably not heh |
20:21 |
celeron55 |
but anyway, that won't matter in terms of speed, only lag |
20:21 |
celeron55 |
not better |
20:21 |
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20:21 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: max 60 kB/sec to you just now. That's much better than before. |
20:22 |
VanessaE |
seems to average ~20kB/sec though |
20:22 |
VanessaE |
well 25 or so anyway |
20:22 |
celeron55 |
ehm |
20:22 |
celeron55 |
it pulls around 12.5kBps |
20:22 |
celeron55 |
just like :30001 |
20:23 |
VanessaE |
I wonder how much of this is just networking overhead? I'm going by my net meter in xfce |
20:23 |
celeron55 |
i have no idea what it's showing to you |
20:23 |
celeron55 |
i'm trusting the meter of my icewm taskbar |
20:23 |
VanessaE |
I wonder if there's just some simple packet loss going on |
20:23 |
VanessaE |
hard to tell though |
20:24 |
khonkhortisan |
when climbing a rail up into the sky, a cart needs dirt under the rail every two nodes. When going horizontally in the air. the cart bobs. It requires something under the rail only at the end when going horizontally. |
20:24 |
celeron55 |
ping doesn't seem to see packet loss |
20:25 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Hi |
20:25 |
babyface1031 |
hi OldCoder |
20:26 |
leo_rockway |
khonkhortisan: I noticed this too. |
20:26 |
leo_rockway |
there's no 3rd person view in minetest, is there? |
20:26 |
khonkhortisan |
nope |
20:26 |
VanessaE |
no |
20:26 |
khonkhortisan |
there's fov, though |
20:27 |
leo_rockway |
fov? |
20:27 |
khonkhortisan |
makes you look like a dretch from tremulous |
20:27 |
leo_rockway |
oh... |
20:27 |
khonkhortisan |
where you can see much further sideways |
20:27 |
leo_rockway |
how can that be done? |
20:28 |
khonkhortisan |
it's not in my config anymore. fov = 180 maybe? |
20:28 |
leo_rockway |
it's funny how explaining what "fov" is was so much faster for me when you said "dretch" hehe. |
20:28 |
leo_rockway |
thanks, I'll try that out. |
20:28 |
VanessaE |
"field of view" |
20:28 |
leo_rockway |
thank you |
20:29 |
khonkhortisan |
huh. I dug a hole, filled it back in, and was down one cobble. (or dirt, not really sure) |
20:29 |
* OldCoder |
is AFK briefly on an errand |
20:30 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. coal :) |
20:30 |
OldCoder |
Coal Cool |
20:31 |
khonkhortisan |
Do rails move at mostly constant speeds? I could make a stop-motion movie by passing by art walls |
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20:32 |
leo_rockway |
khonkhortisan: there's a max speed in the init.lua |
20:32 |
khonkhortisan |
but moving horizontally, is it mostly constant? |
20:32 |
leo_rockway |
if you move in a straight line, I think you go at the same speed |
20:32 |
leo_rockway |
I think so |
20:38 |
khonkhortisan |
game of life is turing complete. who would've thunk it. |
20:41 |
bulletrulz |
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/how-to-run-chromeos-in-ubuntu this is kinda cool but only 64 bit :/ |
20:41 |
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20:42 |
leo_rockway |
khonkhortisan: game of life in mesecons o.o |
20:43 |
khonkhortisan |
hmm |
20:43 |
khonkhortisan |
probably have to build the display at a 90-degree angle from the math, to be able to expand |
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20:49 |
thexyz |
http://wapi.minetest.ru/minetest.register_chatcommand |
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20:52 |
bulletrulz |
lmgtfy |
20:55 |
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20:57 |
khonkhortisan |
Can anyone make a rail-powered moving picture? |
20:59 |
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21:00 |
VanessaE |
put it on the last train to clarksville? |
21:00 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
21:01 |
khonkhortisan |
have the rail move past colored walls. But the rail moves pretty slow. |
21:02 |
VanessaE |
slit effect. |
21:02 |
khonkhortisan |
don't have the slit right yet |
21:02 |
VanessaE |
drive past a wall of 1-node-wide slits with images places 2 nodes behind them |
21:02 |
VanessaE |
problem is the speed of the cart. |
21:03 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. I was moving toward the walls |
21:04 |
VanessaE |
take advantage of the parallax between the holes in the wall and the images/nodes placed behind those holes |
21:04 |
VanessaE |
the farther back they are, the more sharply they'll appear/disappear |
21:04 |
VanessaE |
get the cart moving fast enough and they will turn into an animated image. |
21:05 |
khonkhortisan |
that'll work much better than driving through the frame |
21:05 |
VanessaE |
yes |
21:05 |
VanessaE |
the further back they are, though, the more likely it is for you to see adjacent images |
21:06 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm feeling the limit of how increasing the image size makes the slits further apart, reducing the frame rate. |
21:06 |
khonkhortisan |
Interesting, a smaller image draws faster. |
21:09 |
VanessaE |
lol! on my test server: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1135824894.png |
21:09 |
VanessaE |
does that mean someone thinks c55 should sit in the corner? :D |
21:09 |
VanessaE |
(no, I didn't do that) |
21:09 |
khonkhortisan |
nice textures |
21:11 |
sokomine |
oh :-) poor c55 :- |
21:11 |
VanessaE |
haha |
21:12 |
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21:15 |
khonkhortisan |
if only I had 45-degree walls |
21:16 |
khonkhortisan |
is there a node that has a really tiny hole in it? |
21:16 |
VanessaE |
not that I can think of |
21:16 |
VanessaE |
closest might be an inverted stair |
21:17 |
VanessaE |
(or regular one) |
21:17 |
VanessaE |
that's at least a 1/4-node hole anyway |
21:17 |
khonkhortisan |
I realy like the campfire |
21:17 |
khonkhortisan |
furnace at home, campfire on the go |
21:18 |
VanessaE |
or a homedecor oven if you're not "roughing" it :-) |
21:18 |
khonkhortisan |
I still want to use the stovetop |
21:18 |
VanessaE |
better to make a separate node for that |
21:19 |
VanessaE |
a really thin nodebox-based one, that acts as another, much slower oven |
21:19 |
khonkhortisan |
rail switches could be used for alternate storylines |
21:20 |
sokomine |
stovetop? |
21:20 |
khonkhortisan |
the burners on the top of the homedecor oven don't work |
21:21 |
sokomine |
ah, ok |
21:22 |
VanessaE |
right, in order for that to happen, either I have to move them into a separate "cookstove" object, or someone has to figure out how to make it give a different formspec depending on clicking the top versus the front/sides :-) |
21:23 |
khonkhortisan |
allow_formspec(...) does stuff on right click, returns true to show formspec <-- a missing feature |
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21:26 |
khonkhortisan |
elastigirl: the first video on http://blog.blendimages.com/2012/11/11/slit-scan-distorted-dance-video-the-new-gangnam-style/ |
21:27 |
khonkhortisan |
creepy |
21:29 |
thexyz |
celeron55: http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page |
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21:35 |
khonkhortisan |
almost a full second between two 3x3 node frames |
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21:43 |
leo_rockway |
khonkhortisan: if you'll do the animation thing, you can include note blocks, connected to the mesecon rail |
21:43 |
leo_rockway |
then you have music and animation |
21:44 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm using regular rail. Mesecon rail lights up under the cart? |
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21:45 |
leo_rockway |
in MC, the redstone rail activates when the cart is over it, I think. |
21:45 |
iqualfragile |
nope |
21:45 |
khonkhortisan |
but there's a mesecon stop rail |
21:45 |
iqualfragile |
in mc the redstone rail stops the minecart if its not powered |
21:45 |
leo_rockway |
I saw a guy that made lights turn on when the cart got over certain rails |
21:45 |
khonkhortisan |
player detector? |
21:46 |
iqualfragile |
otherwise it accelerates it |
21:46 |
leo_rockway |
maybe |
21:46 |
OldCoder |
Back |
21:46 |
leo_rockway |
iqualfragile: true... |
21:46 |
iqualfragile |
there is no detector rail afaik |
21:46 |
leo_rockway |
hold on, let me look the tutorial up and see if it applies to mesecons too |
21:46 |
khonkhortisan |
you can make a floor filled with ghoststone that disappears when the object detector in the center of the room activates |
21:46 |
iqualfragile |
well, my last game of minecraft dates 5 months back so that informaiton might be slightly out of date |
21:47 |
leo_rockway |
I've never actually really played |
21:47 |
leo_rockway |
just tried it out to compare it to MT |
21:48 |
khonkhortisan |
is there a way to make one-way rail? |
21:49 |
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21:49 |
iqualfragile |
uh, wait a moment |
21:49 |
iqualfragile |
does that mean that there are/will be working carts in minetest? |
21:49 |
bulletrulz |
hi |
21:50 |
VanessaE |
there are. |
21:50 |
bulletrulz |
iqualfragile, there aready is?? |
21:50 |
khonkhortisan |
they mostly work, unless you change rail direction twice in two nodes, or the other thing I already forgot |
21:50 |
leo_rockway |
they work already |
21:50 |
VanessaE |
sokomine and I have been playing with them on my server. |
21:50 |
leo_rockway |
khonkhortisan: if there are no blocks under the rails |
21:50 |
iqualfragile |
if you refer to pilzadams carts: last time i tried those they were quite buggy |
21:50 |
leo_rockway |
they bob |
21:50 |
leo_rockway |
iqualfragile: there's a new branch that works with the new 3D players. |
21:51 |
* marktraceur |
asks foolishly whether 0.4.4 is going to be released soon (or if it will be 0.5 because of tghe big new player-facing stuff) |
21:51 |
marktraceur |
the* |
21:51 |
iqualfragile |
mind sending me a link? |
21:51 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't care if it's released, it works for me :P |
21:52 |
marktraceur |
khonkhortisan: For those of us running production servers it would be nice to have some indication of "hey this is stable now" |
21:52 |
marktraceur |
Not to mention builds. |
21:52 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't know how only the head sticks out when in a cart |
21:53 |
leo_rockway |
http://youtu.be/Wta7K7hG__I |
21:53 |
leo_rockway |
those are the neww things |
21:53 |
leo_rockway |
new* |
21:53 |
iqualfragile |
there are people out there not using the latest git |
21:53 |
iqualfragile |
(linux people) |
21:54 |
leo_rockway |
fair enough |
21:55 |
bulletrulz |
my charger is starting to brake noooooooooo!!! |
21:55 |
marktraceur |
bulletrulz: So accelerate again! Jeez, it's not the end of the world to lose velocity. |
21:57 |
bulletrulz |
marktraceur, no i mean its a mess up in the cord itself |
21:57 |
marktraceur |
bulletrulz: What, your brake lines were cut? That's pretty serious, man. |
21:59 |
bulletrulz |
marktraceur, i know but cords for it ar eonly like 30$ |
21:59 |
leo_rockway |
mmhhh... yeah, the tutorial I saw uses detector rails |
21:59 |
leo_rockway |
there's no such thing in mesecons? |
22:00 |
marktraceur |
bulletrulz: Yeah, just don't drive anywhere for a while, that's dangerous. |
22:02 |
bulletrulz |
marktraceur, not in a car on my laptop charger lol |
22:02 |
marktraceur |
bulletrulz: Wait, what about your laptop charger is braking? |
22:03 |
marktraceur |
bulletrulz: It seems like its normal state is at rest, it seems counter-intuitive to put brakes on such a thing. |
22:03 |
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22:04 |
VanessaE |
maybe he keeps sliding it across the floor? |
22:04 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: That might do it, but even then, friction would be enough of an opposition that it wouldn't do any damage to the charger. Besides, he wouldn't be able to control the charger if he gave it enough velocity to slide and then let go.... |
22:06 |
VanessaE |
lol |
22:06 |
* marktraceur |
sighs, kids these days |
22:08 |
leo_rockway |
marktraceur: oh, give him a brake! |
22:08 |
leo_rockway |
geez |
22:09 |
marktraceur |
leo_rockway: Oh, I'll give him a brake all right |
22:11 |
khonkhortisan |
server freeze? |
22:17 |
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22:17 |
kaeza |
hey guys |
22:20 |
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22:21 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Bye! |
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22:27 |
kaeza |
hello |
22:28 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Welcome back! |
22:28 |
VanessaE |
hey kaeza |
22:28 |
kaeza |
hi mark! |
22:28 |
kaeza |
hi V |
22:28 |
kaeza |
anything new? |
22:28 |
VanessaE |
you missed the test server :-) |
22:29 |
kaeza |
oohh |
22:29 |
kaeza |
new commit? |
22:29 |
VanessaE |
same IP, port 30001. |
22:29 |
VanessaE |
it runs c55's "congestion_setting" branch |
22:29 |
VanessaE |
clear your cache first, then try it. |
22:29 |
VanessaE |
see if it works better than the one on 30000 |
22:29 |
VanessaE |
but don't build anything serious there, that world will be deleted soon. |
22:30 |
Renoki |
I think I'll play some Minetest |
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22:31 |
Kacey |
hello |
22:32 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: you will like this: http://minecraft.novaskin.me/ |
22:32 |
kaeza |
I'm gonna try connecting |
22:32 |
VanessaE |
nice editor |
22:33 |
leo_rockway |
what's "congestion_setting"? |
22:33 |
kaeza |
hey Kacey |
22:34 |
Kacey |
im in school lol |
22:34 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: a test to see if we can improve bandwidth without a major recode of the network stack basicallt :-) |
22:34 |
VanessaE |
basically* |
22:34 |
kaeza |
Kacey: shoudn't you be "studying" |
22:34 |
kaeza |
? |
22:35 |
Kacey |
no there was a technology test |
22:35 |
kaeza |
good |
22:35 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: is it passing the tests? |
22:35 |
Kacey |
only ten minutes till the end of school |
22:35 |
kaeza |
k |
22:36 |
kaeza |
lol |
22:36 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: not yet. |
22:36 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: so... clear your ~/.minetest/cache and sign on already, port 30001 |
22:36 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
22:36 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: now connecting @ 34% |
22:36 |
VanessaE |
ah, so you are :-) |
22:36 |
kaeza |
yeah |
22:36 |
VanessaE |
how's it behaving for you now? |
22:37 |
kaeza |
just a few minutes and I'm in |
22:37 |
VanessaE |
I mean the media download |
22:37 |
Kacey |
still need to compile it |
22:37 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: get the very very very latest git when you do. |
22:38 |
Kacey |
there is a new one?!?!?!?! |
22:38 |
kaeza |
50% now |
22:38 |
kaeza |
quite fast |
22:38 |
kaeza |
at least faster than yesterday/today earlier |
22:38 |
VanessaE |
like, fetch from git right before you start compiling. anything more than about 12-18 hours ago is too old :D |
22:38 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: just latest master or some other branch? |
22:38 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: latest master is fine. |
22:38 |
VanessaE |
the congestion_setting branch is only for the server end I guess |
22:38 |
leo_rockway |
I have a speed hack, though :S |
22:38 |
leo_rockway |
I'd have to disable that |
22:38 |
kaeza |
you still have a minetest from 12 hours ago? so oldschool :) |
22:38 |
leo_rockway |
I had just compiled it too |
22:39 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: haha |
22:39 |
leo_rockway |
I run a script that pulls from git nightly. If there are changes, it builds. |
22:39 |
kaeza |
80% for me. almost there |
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VanessaE |
kaeza: that's at least an order of magnitude faster for you, isn't it? |
22:40 |
kaeza |
yup. a record of 3 minutes |
22:40 |
Renoki |
meh.. |
22:40 |
kaeza |
previously this was like half an hour |
22:40 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: that's consistent with what I'd expect given the size of the media being downloaded. |
22:40 |
leo_rockway |
what's the default walkspeed_max? 4? |
22:40 |
Renoki |
playing this makes me think "Why don't I just play Minecraft instead?" |
22:40 |
kaeza |
i'm in |
22:40 |
Uberi |
anyone know why the flatland mod is so SLOOOW? |
22:41 |
Kacey |
5 more minutes |
22:41 |
Renoki |
any servers I can join? |
22:41 |
VanessaE |
no idea uberi |
22:41 |
Uberi |
I wrote my own that only generates a 1 block thick ground |
22:41 |
Uberi |
but even that is slow |
22:41 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: you seeing this? some users ARE seeing an improvement with that branch in place on the server. |
22:41 |
Uberi |
TCP blocks? |
22:42 |
* leo_rockway |
builds without speed hack |
22:42 |
leo_rockway |
oh, new shaders branch! |
22:42 |
* leo_rockway |
likes |
22:43 |
leo_rockway |
what's the IP and port? |
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VanessaE |
for the main server, 24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
22:43 |
leo_rockway |
for the one for the tests |
22:43 |
VanessaE |
for the testing-only server, port 30001. |
22:43 |
leo_rockway |
okay, I'm joining 30001 then |
22:43 |
Uberi |
oh that shaders_v4 thing, I sure hope that works with my GPU |
22:44 |
Renoki |
no server browser? :( |
22:44 |
VanessaE |
not yet. |
22:44 |
leo_rockway |
are the anti-cheat limitations going to be removed? |
22:45 |
VanessaE |
anti-cheat is turned off on my servers. |
22:45 |
VanessaE |
I hate it. :-) |
22:45 |
leo_rockway |
me too |
22:45 |
leo_rockway |
particularly since I cheat o.o |
22:45 |
Renoki |
does anyone have a server I could join? |
22:45 |
Uberi |
Renoki: try http://servers.minetest.ru/ |
22:45 |
Renoki |
thanks |
22:45 |
leo_rockway |
but I never play remote, always local |
22:45 |
Uberi |
no problem :) |
22:45 |
leo_rockway |
I disabled the cheat just now, to join |
22:46 |
Uberi |
there ought to be a good Mesecons build server around |
22:46 |
leo_rockway |
I'm downloading 1% of media per second |
22:46 |
VanessaE |
that's good |
22:46 |
VanessaE |
1%/second is about what I'd expect. |
22:46 |
leo_rockway |
100%, now black screen |
22:46 |
VanessaE |
that's less than 2 minutes to sign-on versus 20-30 :D |
22:46 |
Uberi |
I was building a piston airship today and was thinking about how awesome it would be in PvP |
22:49 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: as long as it won't cause a regression, I recommend merging congestion_setting to master. It's a definite improvement. |
23:03 |
Uberi |
ah |
23:08 |
marktraceur |
So I asked earlier, don't think I got an answer....is the 3D player + carts branch looking to be merged soon? |
23:08 |
VanessaE |
3d players already are. |
23:08 |
VanessaE |
0.4.4 has those. |
23:08 |
NakedFury |
I thought it already was |
23:08 |
VanessaE |
carts is a separate mod. |
23:08 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Wait, is 0.4.4 released? |
23:08 |
Uberi |
3d models was merged today, IIRC |
23:09 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: only via github sources like usual |
23:09 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: yesterday |
23:09 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: ah OK |
23:09 |
* marktraceur |
is shocked, but happy |
23:09 |
* Uberi |
still has no sense of time |
23:09 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Where do the player textures come from, the server? |
23:09 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: I've got two servers running right now (one main, one testing the congestion branch). both 0.4.4 nearly-latest, both with 3d models and carts. |
23:09 |
VanessaE |
from the server, yes. |
23:10 |
marktraceur |
K. |
23:10 |
VanessaE |
I have the player_textures mod, so several people have their own skins :-) |
23:10 |
marktraceur |
I think I need to wait for a Windows build before I update my server, and I spend too much time on that server to switch to a new one :P |
23:10 |
VanessaE |
heh |
23:10 |
VanessaE |
chickenshit :D |
23:12 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: That implies that I'm somehow afraid to change servers...it's not that, but I'd rather forward the existing efforts on one server than start new projects elsewhere! |
23:12 |
VanessaE |
fair enough :-) |
23:12 |
Renoki |
so uh |
23:13 |
Renoki |
will Minetest copy Minecraft exactly or do their own thing in future updates? |
23:14 |
Uberi |
well it's never really copied minecraft much |
23:14 |
NakedFury |
you are talking about the player models? |
23:14 |
VanessaE |
do their own thin, definitely. |
23:14 |
VanessaE |
but for now, some stuff is similar to minecraft almost out of necessity |
23:14 |
VanessaE |
player models being the same means we now have a large selection of skins |
23:15 |
VanessaE |
but new models are possible |
23:15 |
marktraceur |
Renoki: The thing is, there are so many opportunities to change the game through mods that saying it's a copy is just a matter of what mod pack you're using. |
23:15 |
Renoki |
heh, true |
23:15 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: Is your server up and running again? Curious to see my patches to the model from yesterday in practice |
23:16 |
Renoki |
what I mostly mean is gameplay |
23:16 |
leo_rockway |
I wouldn't like to see enchantment tables... |
23:16 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: indeed it is. |
23:16 |
Renoki |
like fighting, the combat in Minecraft is horrible. |
23:16 |
Taoki |
awesome, willt ry to login |
23:16 |
kaeza |
marktraceur I'm trying to compile a windows version right now |
23:16 |
Renoki |
I'm hoping for better combat in Minetest |
23:16 |
leo_rockway |
Renoki: minetest is an engine, so different people can have different mods and different ames |
23:16 |
VanessaE |
24.181.193.82 ports 30000 (main) and 30001 (testing only) |
23:16 |
leo_rockway |
the win version was compiled, search the forum |
23:16 |
VanessaE |
Renoki: mobs. we have those. |
23:16 |
Renoki |
BRB |
23:16 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: I'll need an officially hosted one |
23:17 |
kaeza |
t you afraid of virus? |
23:17 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: says it couldn't resolve address |
23:17 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
23:17 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: When I try to connect to your IP, MineTest says it couldn't resolve the address |
23:18 |
VanessaE |
leo's on the 30001 server right now? |
23:18 |
Taoki |
24.181.193.82:30001 right? |
23:18 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: I'm crosscompiling from linux to mingw32, using only official builds of the depends |
23:18 |
VanessaE |
yes,. |
23:18 |
leo_rockway |
I am |
23:18 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: No, but I don't want to point people to http://randomfuckingdownloadsite.com for the download |
23:18 |
Taoki |
this is weird, wonder why it does that |
23:18 |
VanessaE |
taoki: typo? |
23:18 |
* marktraceur |
calls dibs on that domain |
23:19 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: I use dropbox download it when it's up to test it and i'll ask the admins later to make it in official |
23:20 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Yeah, Dropbox would be worse. |
23:20 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: kaeza is on 30001 also, and khonkhortisan is connected over on 30000 |
23:20 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: This is for the upcoming FSF-hosted server. |
23:21 |
leo_rockway |
the fsf will host a server? |
23:21 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: I'm trying to put my 2 cents |
23:21 |
marktraceur |
leo_rockway: Yes, soon |
23:21 |
leo_rockway |
marktraceur: nice! |
23:21 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: when sfan5 makes his next build, use that. that's as official as it gets without getting outdated :-) |
23:22 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Well, there are builds on minetest.net, I figure I'll wait for that. |
23:22 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: I don't think they'll be kept up-to-date there. |
23:22 |
marktraceur |
Hrm. |
23:22 |
VanessaE |
*shrug* |
23:22 |
* marktraceur |
dislikes that idea |
23:23 |
Uberi |
I sure hope those get updated |
23:23 |
leo_rockway |
marktraceur: http://leorockway.com.ar/gnu+linux.png |
23:23 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Can you at least host sfan5's builds on minetest.net so it's not annoyingly unofficial when getting Windows downloads? |
23:23 |
leo_rockway |
marktraceur: I never got to finish the gnu... |
23:23 |
leo_rockway |
IDK who did the Tux. |
23:23 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: cute :-) |
23:23 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: :D |
23:24 |
marktraceur |
leo_rockway: Pretty great! |
23:24 |
Taoki |
yeah was a typo lol, connectong now |
23:25 |
leo_rockway |
that screenshots seems to be 1 year old |
23:26 |
kaeza |
Taoki were you Mitsea something |
23:27 |
Taoki |
MirceaKitsune :) |
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kaeza1 |
back |
23:27 |
kaeza1 |
sorry, modem again |
23:28 |
VanessaE |
oops :-) |
23:28 |
kaeza1 |
Taoki were you Mitsea something? |
23:29 |
Taoki |
kaeza1: MirceaKitsune |
23:29 |
Taoki |
Miss Tea... that's a nick I haven't thought of :P |
23:29 |
kaeza1 |
yes typo |
23:30 |
marktraceur |
Taoki: We'd need to give you a Pokemon-themed texture, then |
23:30 |
kaeza1 |
Taoki: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1143900835.jpg |
23:30 |
Taoki |
Please give me a pony model and texture if possible :) |
23:30 |
Taoki |
kaeza1: Looks nice! |
23:30 |
marktraceur |
Taoki: No, Misty! You would be Misty. |
23:31 |
Taoki |
that works too |
23:32 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: crash on F10 LOL |
23:32 |
VanessaE |
heh |
23:32 |
kaeza |
first time though |
23:35 |
NakedFury |
it never happens to me |
23:36 |
Uberi |
worldediting in 40000 nodes is taking a while... |
23:38 |
VanessaE |
it'll do that alright |
23:40 |
NakedFury |
something like that broke the server when I did |
23:40 |
NakedFury |
it |
23:40 |
Taoki |
BTW, wanted to mention something else. Since the models code is in, vehicles should theoretically be possible too |
23:40 |
Taoki |
You can create a LUA entity, attach a player to it as the driver, then read his key input (RBA's patch) to acccelerate and steer that entity |
23:41 |
kaeza |
is RBA's patch in master? |
23:41 |
Taoki |
Note that it would be laggy, since it's not local movement. Client sends pressed key to server, server updates movement and sennds that update to clients |
23:41 |
kaeza |
or a different branch? |
23:41 |
Taoki |
Sure, with models |
23:41 |
kaeza |
bbiab |
23:42 |
VanessaE |
sweet\ |
23:43 |
kaeza |
back |
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23:53 |
kaeza |
F*CK crash on chat |
23:53 |
VanessaE |
dammit |
23:53 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: wrong port :) |
23:53 |
VanessaE |
you went to 30000 that time :D |
23:54 |
NakedFury |
hey talking about chat, I have noticed that I cant click anything that is covered by chat |
23:54 |
kaeza |
oh it got reset after the crash :) |
23:54 |
kaeza |
ok now |
23:55 |
kaeza |
NakedFury: that happens |
23:55 |
kaeza |
just hide chat with F2 |