Time Nick Message 00:05 Mikeonline seems that under is pos and pointed thing is not a node 00:07 OldCoder Doc22, are you saying to disable Opals again? 00:07 Doc22 sure 00:08 OldCoder Is that yes or no? 00:08 Doc22 they do nothing 00:08 Doc22 yes 00:08 OldCoder So no way to get opals? 00:08 Doc22 they do nothing 00:08 babyface1031 gems opal you birtstone opal 00:08 OldCoder I am not following 00:08 Doc22 well the id is messed up 00:08 OldCoder Go on 00:08 Doc22 on my opal bridge 00:08 OldCoder Is this correctable? 00:08 Doc22 possibly 00:08 Doc22 but i dont know where all the code is for your gems version 00:08 OldCoder State what you wish me to do 00:08 OldCoder It is in 00:08 OldCoder the ZIP file I gave you 00:09 OldCoder Or it does not exist 00:09 Doc22 thats what i mean 00:09 Doc22 i think they should be taken out 00:09 Doc22 now I see 00:09 OldCoder Doc22, if you gave a different gems from github 00:09 OldCoder what is the link? 00:09 OldCoder He said this was his latest version 00:09 Doc22 a different gems? 00:09 Doc22 I dont know what you mean 00:10 Doc22 unless you mean the version with opal 00:10 OldCoder I mean 00:10 OldCoder The one you looked at earlier 00:10 OldCoder From GitHub IIRC 00:10 Doc22 hmmm 00:10 Doc22 ill get it 00:11 Doc22 https://github.com/wowiamdiamonds/gems 00:11 Doc22 there 00:11 OldCoder ?? 00:11 OldCoder wowiamdiamonds? 00:12 OldCoder Is that NekoGloop's? Whose is it? 00:13 OldCoder No 00:13 OldCoder Doc22, that is somebody else's 00:13 OldCoder We'd need to check again for conflicts 00:13 Doc22 i dont know 00:13 Doc22 thats what i linked to earlier 00:13 OldCoder This would need to be straightened out 00:20 babyface1031 hi Octupus 00:21 Octupus Hola babyface1031 00:36 M13 KikaRz 00:36 OldCoder Gone 00:36 M13 ok 00:36 M13 I granted him interact on my server 00:37 OldCoder M13, she says that she is a she. 00:37 OldCoder A her and not a him. 00:37 OldCoder etc. 00:38 Octupus Hi OldCoder 00:38 OldCoder Octupus, Hi 00:38 M13 oo 00:39 Octupus Hi M13 00:54 Mikeonline n8 00:56 Doc22 oh oldcoder 00:56 Doc22 there is one more thing 00:57 OldCoder Oh? 00:57 Doc22 can you add chains mod 00:57 OldCoder Doc22, Talk to others and build consensus please 00:57 OldCoder Same as I told you today 00:57 OldCoder Need to know if mod is safe and not slow 00:57 Doc22 oh yeah 00:57 Doc22 ok 00:58 Doc22 it is safe 00:58 OldCoder Oh? 00:58 Doc22 and it doesnt slow the server 00:58 Doc22 it just adds placable chains 00:58 OldCoder Then verify others agree with you 00:58 Doc22 ok 00:58 Doc22 ill ask baby 00:58 OldCoder k 00:59 Doc22 she said yes 00:59 Doc22 come see tha campfire mod and gems mod 00:59 Doc22 join the server 00:59 OldCoder I will 00:59 Doc22 itll be fun 00:59 OldCoder But out of time today 00:59 Doc22 ok 00:59 OldCoder I believe you 00:59 OldCoder Need to do work elsewhere 00:59 babyface1031 I didnt say yes i said i havent looked at them 00:59 Doc22 ok 01:00 OldCoder Doc22, you fibbed :-) 01:00 Doc22 oh i thought you said yess for that 01:00 OldCoder Huh 01:00 OldCoder Fibber 01:00 OldCoder :-) 01:00 Doc22 im sorry i misunderstood 01:00 Doc22 :-) 01:00 babyface1031 he asked 2 question at the same time 01:00 Doc22 i know lol 01:00 OldCoder k 01:00 Doc22 sowwy 01:00 * Doc22 blushes 01:00 OldCoder All right 01:00 * Doc22 turns purple 01:01 * Doc22 faints 01:01 Doc22 you have won the battle! 01:01 Doc22 OldCoder recieved 348 experience points! 01:01 Doc22 OldCoder leveled up! 01:01 Doc22 OldCoder is now level 4 01:01 Doc22 hey octupus 01:02 Doc22 come to 30004 01:02 Doc22 oldcoder added my campfire mod 01:02 Doc22 and my gems mod 01:02 Doc22 its fun 01:02 Doc22 :D 01:02 Octupus Hi Doc22 01:02 Doc22 hi! 01:02 Doc22 come on 01:02 Doc22 lets play 01:02 Octupus I canny 01:02 Doc22 i and face wanna build something 01:02 Octupus Cannot 01:02 Doc22 y not 01:02 Octupus iPod 01:03 Doc22 :P 01:03 Doc22 lol 01:04 OldCoder Doc22, what is level 4? 01:04 Doc22 its a joke 01:04 Doc22 lol 01:04 OldCoder k 01:05 Octupus K 01:10 M13 well g2g 01:10 * M13 says Bye to all 01:11 * M13 says Bye to all 01:54 Octupus :-/ 01:57 OldCoder Octupus, why :-/ 01:57 Octupus Bored :) 02:00 marktraceur Octupus: I know a great game you can play 02:00 Doc22 bye guys 02:00 Doc22 getting off for the night 02:00 Octupus Why game ? 02:00 Octupus Bye Doc22 02:00 Doc22 cya octu 02:00 Doc22 :) 02:07 marktraceur Octupus: It's a joke, you've complained of being bored in an IRC channel for a game, so I figured I'd offer you the obvious solution to boredom 02:07 Octupus I mean what 02:07 Octupus Typo 02:08 marktraceur Octupus: Minetest, of course! 02:14 * marktraceur has re-joined the channel because he's making a new mod that will likely be useful to others 02:14 marktraceur I suppose I should say "modpack", but I'm not sure I love that word 02:15 OldCoder marktraceur, Hello 02:18 Octupus O :D 02:19 marktraceur OldCoder: Hi! 02:24 Kacey hello 02:24 marktraceur Kacey: Hi! 02:25 Kacey only one hour to play today... 02:25 Kacey i hate bedtime 02:25 OldCoder Kacey, without bedtime how would there be bed? It follows logically 02:25 OldCoder Without bed no sleep 02:25 OldCoder That is deep 02:26 OldCoder No sleep no dreams 02:26 Kacey but i hate my bedtime 02:26 OldCoder Dreams are important 02:26 OldCoder It is Saturday 02:26 OldCoder Perhaps it is negotiable 02:26 NakedFury sleeping is good 02:26 Kacey 8:30 pm and no later 02:26 OldCoder Hmm 02:26 OldCoder Seems early 02:26 NakedFury specially when you can do it for long periods of time 02:26 OldCoder Hyep 02:26 OldCoder Yep 02:27 OldCoder NakedFury, you have interact on 30014 now 02:27 NakedFury anyone know what happened to cornernote? 02:27 OldCoder Yes 02:27 Kacey very considering that it is 7:30 now 02:27 OldCoder I have PMd him as he invited me too 02:27 OldCoder *to 02:27 OldCoder But no reply today 02:27 NakedFury I read something about him being banned on the forums or something 02:27 OldCoder Kacey, negotiate over time 02:27 OldCoder NakedFury, PM 02:32 Octupus Isnt it crazy that red,white,and blue represent freedom until they flash behind you ? 02:33 marktraceur NakedFury: He left, but asked to be banned symbolically. 02:36 OldCoder Octupus, :D 02:36 * OldCoder laughs out loud 02:36 Octupus :D 02:41 GTRsdk OldCoder: have you tried icc? 02:41 Kacey hello 02:41 Kacey anybody know how to make colored fence? 02:42 OldCoder GTRsdk, yes; years ago. Not for MT yet. 02:42 OldCoder Kacey, wb 02:42 Kacey i just need to know the recipe for colored fence 02:43 babyface1031 make color wood first 02:43 babyface1031 then make the fence with the colored wood 02:43 Kacey how O.o 02:43 babyface1031 are you on 30004 02:43 Kacey yes 02:43 babyface1031 be right there 02:44 Kacey k 02:45 OldCoder sdzen, wb 02:46 Octupus Hello every I missed :) 02:49 babyface1031 brb 02:50 babyface1031 if kacey comes on tell him i have to restart my interntet please but i am comeing 02:50 Kacey face? 02:51 Kacey nvm 02:51 OldCoder Kacey, Hi 02:51 Kacey how do you make colored wood? 02:52 OldCoder She will return shortly 02:52 OldCoder And explain 02:52 OldCoder if kacey comes on tell him i have to restart my interntet please but i am comeing 02:52 Kacey aah 02:53 GTRsdk OldCoder: yeah I meant for MT :-) 02:53 OldCoder GTRsdk, I figured 02:58 Octupus Booooooob 02:59 Octupus $phrase "Isnt it crazy that red,white,and blue represent freedom until they flash behind you. Print "$phrase\n;" 02:59 Octupus OldCoder: ^ 03:00 Octupus Did I do it correctly ? 03:01 OldCoder Almost 03:01 OldCoder These changes: 03:01 Octupus O 03:01 OldCoder $phrase = "text"; 03:01 OldCoder So: 03:01 OldCoder = is needed 03:01 OldCoder and end the text with "; 03:01 OldCoder Also 03:01 OldCoder print would be lower case 03:01 Octupus Oooo I forgot about dat 03:01 OldCoder and print "$phrase\n"; 03:01 OldCoder would have semicolon after the " and not before it 03:02 Octupus O 03:03 Octupus $phrase = "Patience is A Virtue"; print "$phrase\n"; 03:07 Octupus Hi babyface1031 03:07 babyface1031 hi 03:13 Octupus I have been here for 2 hours 03:13 Octupus :) 03:19 babyface1031 i been here just watching a movie' 03:22 Octupus Cool 03:23 Doc22 'ello 03:23 Octupus Hi Doc22 03:23 Doc22 hey 03:23 Doc22 you still on your ipod or can you pla7 03:24 Doc22 play 03:24 Octupus iPod 03:24 Doc22 awww 03:25 Doc22 babyface1031 you on the server? 03:25 babyface1031 yes 03:25 Doc22 ok im coming 03:25 babyface1031 it is me and Kacey right now 03:31 Octupus Walt Disney bosssssss 03:37 marktraceur Hrm. 03:37 marktraceur I'm getting a black box instead of my textures when I use fixed nodeboxes, anyone know what's up with that? 03:40 Octupus No 03:41 Octupus But what do I know about node boxes :P 03:56 Octupus Hi M13 03:56 M13 how do I get past the Minetest pun stop 03:56 M13 I cant post anything im minetest forum 03:57 Octupus What are the questions 03:57 Octupus Developer is c55 03:57 Octupus Or celeron5,5. If it ask for nick it's ^ 03:58 M13 like Minetest spelled backwards and when I enter it it wont let me in 03:58 Octupus And stable version is 0.4.1 03:58 M13 no its 0.4 03:58 Octupus No m13 03:58 Octupus It's 0.4.1 03:58 M13 ok 04:00 M13 What is a minetest add-on called? 04:00 M13 that is a Question 04:00 VanessaE a mod of course. 04:00 VanessaE also, hi 04:00 M13 it wont work Vanessa 04:00 Octupus Hello VanessaE 04:00 VanessaE when did you last try it? 04:00 M13 and the previous Versionis 0.3 right? 04:00 VanessaE c55 just tweaked the config earlier today 04:01 VanessaE clear your cache and cookies. 04:01 M13 ok 04:01 VanessaE Doc22 was having probs as well, but that fixed it for him after c55 made his tweaks 04:01 Doc22 jij 04:01 Doc22 huh 04:01 VanessaE hah, there he is 04:01 marktraceur VanessaE: You're good with texture-y stuff! Why am I getting a black box with a fixed nodebox? 04:02 VanessaE a black box? 04:02 VanessaE er.. 04:02 * Doc22 babbles angrily 04:02 * Doc22 calms down 04:02 * Doc22 goes back to digging 04:02 Octupus Hi Doc22 tomorrow I play with u I promise 04:02 Doc22 ok 04:02 Doc22 i made a nexux 04:02 Doc22 nexux 04:02 Doc22 nEXUS 04:03 Doc22 it has teleporters in it 04:03 VanessaE heh, keyboarding FAIL :-) 04:03 M13 I cant 04:03 Octupus Cooooool 04:03 M13 Vanessa, is the cache the .cache folder in home folder? 04:03 Octupus Doc22: Shall I make it the server teleport command 04:03 VanessaE M13: "clear your cache" means use the function supplied by your web browser. 04:03 M13 ok, were is it in firefox? 04:03 Doc22 what> 04:04 Doc22 wha? 04:04 Doc22 what you mean 04:04 M13 got it 04:04 VanessaE in firefox for example, that's Tools -> Clear Recent History -> (click the [X] Cookies and [X] Cache boxes) -> Clear Now 04:04 VanessaE oh and set the time range at the top to "everything" 04:05 Octupus Doc22: Srry he teleport room for the server? 04:05 M13 thnx got it 04:05 M13 It worked too 04:05 Doc22 ok 04:06 Doc22 what 04:06 VanessaE you can post? 04:06 Doc22 oh make a teleport to it? 04:06 Doc22 octu 04:06 M13 yep Vanessa 04:06 M13 That worked 04:06 VanessaE M13: excellent. 04:06 Doc22 ill try it no 04:06 Doc22 now 04:06 M13 thnx, cyah later Vanessa 04:06 VanessaE no prob, cya 04:07 Doc22 ok i got rid of the old moldy cookies 04:07 Octupus Yes doc 04:07 VanessaE marktraceur: I'm not sure I understand what you meant btw. Can you post a screenshot? 04:08 VanessaE (and pastebin the offending code of course) 04:09 marktraceur VanessaE: http://media.marktraceur.info/u/marktraceur/m/black-box-in-minetest/ 04:09 VanessaE and the code? 04:10 marktraceur VanessaE: http://paste.marktraceur.info/2 04:10 VanessaE I've seen others having the same problem before - for example in 3dforniture, the round trees do the same thing until you interact with the environment near them 04:10 Doc22 yes! vanessae it works 04:10 VanessaE Doc22: good :-) 04:11 Doc22 octupus i would rather it not be public 04:11 Doc22 it goes to all my stuff 04:11 Doc22 vanessae also can you move my chains mod to releases 04:11 Octupus Doc as u wish :) 04:11 Doc22 thanks octu 04:11 VanessaE marktraceur: is_ground_content is a no-op btw. you can delete that line. (33) *continues looking at code* 04:11 Doc22 i dont want griefers 04:12 marktraceur VanessaE: Ah, digging nearby nodes fixed it. But the textures are cropped. 04:12 VanessaE Doc22: remind me in the forums - post on the Mod Move Requests topic 04:12 Doc22 i already had someone place blocks that cant be destroyed... 04:12 Doc22 ij 04:12 Doc22 k 04:12 VanessaE marktraceur: that part is normal. 04:12 marktraceur VanessaE: Also, it doesn't appear to be diggable? 04:12 VanessaE The nodeboxes are first assembled and rendered, then the textures are projected onto them from 100% size - they don't scale down to fit. 04:13 marktraceur Ah. 04:13 * marktraceur will change the textures, then, to work. 04:13 VanessaE 34. groups = { metal = 2} <-- you need things like snappy or cracky here. 04:13 marktraceur Mmmkay. 04:14 Doc22 done 04:14 marktraceur VanessaE: Thanks, I think I can get the rest. 04:14 VanessaE now, why the black textures... 04:14 VanessaE still thinking. What is it that I'm doing with my mods that others aren't? I never had that happen in my own code 04:15 Octupus Doc22: did I find my birthstone ? 04:15 Doc22 what? 04:15 Octupus Diamond 04:16 VanessaE *scratches head* 04:18 VanessaE marktraceur: I can't help but wonder if it's something really obscure, like your use of single quotes everywhere (not that it should matter - I just can't seem to spot the problem) 04:19 VanessaE marktraceur: the "diggable" line (27) is also not necessary, afaik all nodes are diggable by default. Not that that'll fix the issue either :-) 04:22 VanessaE dammit, and c55 isn't online to ask either. 04:31 Octupus We need to have a partay 04:31 Octupus Wooooo 04:37 marktraceur Octupus: What, the MT community? Where should we have it? 04:38 marktraceur VanessaE: Thanks a bunch, I'll be able to take it from here I think :) 04:38 Octupus On a server 04:38 Octupus :) 04:38 VanessaE marktraceur: no prob. 04:38 VanessaE let me know if you figure out a solution to the black textures. 04:38 marktraceur Octupus: Well, it'd be hard to fit us all, and we might break it 04:38 Octupus True 04:38 Octupus Bye 05:19 marktraceur Huh, no docs on the new doc pages for minetest.env? Did that disappear? 05:19 VanessaE dunno? 05:19 marktraceur Hrm. 05:20 * marktraceur uses plaintext docs from repo instead of startup-y website, then 05:20 VanessaE bbl, bedtime :-) 05:20 VanessaE marktraceur: msg me when you figure out the issue with the black textures. I'm really curious. 05:21 VanessaE (click) 05:21 marktraceur VanessaE: I wound up just digging a node, and it worked. I won't investigate further, I'm happy with that solution (as if it were a solution) 05:35 Doc22 good night all 06:12 NakedFury see you all later 06:49 * marktraceur is putting finishing touches on a conveyor belt mod 06:50 marktraceur Possibly will segue into a factory mod (or a rewrite of my old factory mod) tomorrow 06:50 marktraceur OK, dumb question: Does anyone know how to enable fast_move on single player? 07:01 * marktraceur foolishly files a bug in hopes that it might get solved: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/287 07:04 RBA_away marktraceur, /grant singleplayer all 07:05 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Thanks! On to the next problem, I suppose :) 07:06 Calinou o_o marktraceur is back on irc 07:06 Calinou hi 07:06 marktraceur Calinou: I never left IRC, just #minetest&* 07:06 marktraceur #minetest*, sorry 07:06 marktraceur Calinou: With any luck, and a mite of courtesy, I might stick around! 07:06 * Calinou is now on xubuntu instead of windows 07:07 marktraceur Calinou: Baby steps are good :) 07:07 RealBadAngel marktraceur, /grant singleplayer fast would be correct answer to your question 07:07 RealBadAngel all gives you all the privs 07:07 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Yes, but your answer worked for me because I would also sometimes like fly 07:09 RealBadAngel about the furnace, when youre messing with them, if you could play with mine version from technic 07:09 RealBadAngel if theyre affected with same problem 07:10 RealBadAngel ive reworked furnaces code a bit 07:10 marktraceur RealBadAngel: It seems like a problem with the Lua API, but I'm not sure if it would affect other furnaces. I can check later, but hopefully a fix would affect yours too :) 07:10 RealBadAngel honestly i dont know, im just sayin my furnace code differs a lot 07:11 RealBadAngel and maybe works better (or worse) ;) 07:13 marktraceur *nod* 07:13 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Comment on the bug, I'll check it out if/when I fix the initial problem 07:20 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Ignore me! I'm dumb. 07:22 marktraceur RealBadAngel: It turns out default:furnace changes to default:furnace_active when it's active, so my ABM had *no idea* what it was doing. Sorry about the false alarm. 07:22 marktraceur And with that, I shall release. 07:39 RealBadAngel hehehe 07:40 RealBadAngel i also had a problem with my code yesterday 07:40 RealBadAngel was coding for a whole day and couldnt find a reason it glitches 07:40 RealBadAngel decided to go to sleep, woke up 07:40 RealBadAngel 5 minutes problem solved 07:45 RealBadAngel i got almost ready LUA method to read players keyboard input 07:46 RealBadAngel got it already transferred to the server side, now polishin LUA interface to it 08:18 RealBadAngel hi celeron55 08:49 Penguin hi 08:49 Calinou Penguin: are you jpenguin? 08:49 Calinou hi 08:49 Penguin No Just Penguin 08:54 RealBadAngel flied away, strange, thought penguins cant fly... 09:20 RealBadAngel silent sunday indeed :) 09:22 RealBadAngel im done with keyboard read patch, lets now play with c55's nodeboxes patch 09:22 Calinou inb4 mese stairs 09:26 Jordach hello #minetest 09:27 Calinou hi 09:28 marktraceur Morning 09:28 * Jordach falls of off sofa 09:30 RealBadAngel hi Jordach 09:31 RealBadAngel ive finished the patch for Taoki 09:31 * marktraceur watches, stifles laughter, goes back to other things 09:31 RealBadAngel now she will be able to play correct 3d player animations 09:33 Jordach and shes here ) 09:33 Jordach +: 09:33 RealBadAngel speakin of the devil ;) 09:33 RealBadAngel hi Taoki 09:34 RealBadAngel check minetest main tree pull requests 09:34 Taoki hi :) 09:34 Taoki You pull requested the code? Awesome 09:34 RealBadAngel its fully workin 09:35 RealBadAngel you can either check bit packed key code 09:35 Taoki great! 09:35 RealBadAngel or boolean values for each defined key 09:36 Taoki yep 09:37 Jordach now can have a lag tester by hittin L 09:37 RealBadAngel it returns the state of 7 control keys and LMB + RMB 09:37 Jordach now can have a lag tester by hittin Lwhy mod MMB 09:38 Taoki celeron55_ (or anyone who has upstream access): Can you please merge RBA's pull request when you're back? It's needed for the models, so now I'll be waiting until its in to continue 09:38 Jordach Taoki - you know thexyz and pilzadm have access right? 09:38 RealBadAngel "or anyone" 09:38 Jordach HA! 09:39 Taoki Oh, didn't remember exactly. If they can sure :) 09:39 * marktraceur wonders why only three people have access to the repo 09:39 RealBadAngel using the patch is easy 09:39 Taoki marktraceur: It's been discussed, more will over time 09:39 Jordach marktraceur - c55 aint working on it as much 09:39 marktraceur (not that I haven't wondered this before, of course) 09:40 RealBadAngel just get desired player, then call method get_player_control() 09:40 Jordach ehm, is minetest.net down 09:40 RealBadAngel to get table with keys 09:40 marktraceur Taoki: Why over time? I'm 100% sure there are other awesome people who should have access. 09:40 Jordach name 'em...if you can 09:40 Taoki marktraceur: Same. But c55 is running a survey first before deciding who else to give that to 09:40 RealBadAngel still, 3 is 3 times more than before 09:40 RealBadAngel 300% 09:40 RealBadAngel sounds better? :) 09:41 Taoki sure thing 09:41 Taoki RealBadAngel: You're someone who should have access too IMO, since you're very interested in the project and good with scripting and coding also. And especially OldCoder too 09:42 marktraceur Jordach: VanessaE comes to mind (sorry for the ping, but you deserve it), and possibly Kray or other admins for bigger servers. Maybe darkrose, too, though my recollection of her C++ skills is foggy. 09:42 marktraceur Jordach: I don't know some other people here, but I'm sure newer people are cool too :) 09:42 Jordach VanessaE works fine with LUA, i know that 09:42 RealBadAngel Taoki, im not requesting it, i just started to mess with the engine 09:42 Taoki Yes VanessaE did nice things too 09:43 Taoki RealBadAngel: I know. Just saying cuz you did nice things for MT too :) 09:43 marktraceur Jordach: Well, and textures, and documentation. Just because someone has access on the repo doesn't mean we expect them to review C++ code. There are bound to be documentation or texture patches. 09:44 Jordach marktraceur - yes i agree, i've wrote down installing minetest mods over and over, but never published it 09:44 * marktraceur realizes suddenly what time it is, and how tired he is 09:45 marktraceur I'll chat more tomorrow, have some mods in the pipeline that should be interesting 09:45 RealBadAngel Taoki, and about the bandwith, ive added just 2 bytes to data being sent to server 09:46 Taoki I know. That is good and shouldn't affecy anyone really 09:46 RealBadAngel thats why we do have here also bit packed value 09:46 Taoki I tried using a converter actually. Apparently 2 bytes adds something like 0.001 kb/s, which is nearly nothing 09:46 RealBadAngel this one is actually sent 09:46 Taoki Well assuming it would be sent every 1 second 09:47 RealBadAngel its sent 5 times a second i think 09:47 RealBadAngel together with player's position 09:47 Taoki That would be 0.005 kb.s more, so no biggie 09:48 Jordach wait wait wait wait 09:48 Jordach you know how blocks now punch far away 09:49 RealBadAngel ? 09:49 Jordach since T_A_N_K_s patch for a better digging anim 09:51 RealBadAngel so what about it? 09:51 Jordach you know how it used to be a twist of a fist right? 09:51 RealBadAngel go on 09:52 Jordach by using this new patch, blocks can have the twisty anim, while tools and items can have the new anim 09:52 RealBadAngel all is up to Taoki 09:53 Jordach i know, but having a nice anim for blocks would be nice 09:53 RealBadAngel my patch itself does nothing to animations, it allows only to read the keys 09:53 Taoki Yes, I'll try to finish the animations script after the keys change is in 09:53 RealBadAngel you can take my branch and work on it 09:54 Taoki Just on question regarding lua: How can I give each player a field in my script? Like define something called .myfield in the script itself, then get the playerr as an object in my loop and use obj.myfield 09:54 Taoki I'd rather wait for it to be in master, to avoid git conflicts and the like 09:56 RealBadAngel it shall be added in c++ 09:57 RealBadAngel extra field in player structure 09:57 RealBadAngel i just did something like that 09:57 RealBadAngel player structure now have keyPressed value 10:00 Taoki Is the function still called sendPlayerPos? Since like I said this would be incorrect now, since it sends more than position 10:01 RealBadAngel yaw is not the position neither 10:01 RealBadAngel and is being sent there :) 10:01 Taoki Pitch and yaw can be considered part of the player positioning 10:01 RealBadAngel so controls also 10:02 RealBadAngel pos is to change with controls, isnt it? 10:02 RealBadAngel yaw and pitch too 10:03 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/keys.png 10:03 RealBadAngel use of dump control structure with ABM 10:06 KikaRz Hello! GOod morning everyone 10:06 KikaRz OldCoder, you there? or its too early to talk? xd 10:08 ruskie probably is for him since it's the middle of the night for him 10:09 KikaRz its 05 or 04 AM 10:09 KikaRz in EU. 10:09 ruskie no 10:09 ruskie it's 11:10 in the EU 10:09 KikaRz Nope 10:09 KikaRz i was wrong 10:10 KikaRz Estados Unidos = United States 10:10 ruskie hehe 10:10 KikaRz Portugal: 10:09 / Spain: 11:09 10:10 ruskie it's 05 EST 10:10 KikaRz ok 10:11 KikaRz you have a server? 10:11 ruskie so yeah middle of the night 10:11 ruskie no 10:11 ruskie I play on europe 10:11 KikaRz so 10:11 KikaRz what server? 10:11 ruskie europe.minetest.org 10:11 ruskie another one run by OldCoder 10:12 KikaRz i dont have a fix one 10:12 KikaRz just in random servers 10:14 KikaRz minetest.sytes.net:30001 10:14 KikaRz join that server 10:14 KikaRz pratically its mine too 10:17 Taoki RealBadAngel: Yep, that looks great 10:18 RealBadAngel one thing comes in mind 10:19 RealBadAngel protocol version number should be changed due to this patch 10:20 Jordach yeah 10:20 Jordach i agree 10:20 Taoki RealBadAngel: My patch updates protocol version too. Since it's not merged yet, it will do by itself I believe 10:21 Taoki RealBadAngel: Also: Did you check if that causes GIT conflicts with my code? Just curious to know what to expect :P 10:22 RealBadAngel ive changed 7 files it total 10:23 RealBadAngel lua_api.txt, player.h, localplayer.h, client.cpp, server.cpp, game.cpp and scriptapi.cpp 10:23 Taoki Yeah, it just depends which areas. But doesn't look like it would be hard to fix if its the case 10:24 RealBadAngel propably nothin in the area of your interest 10:24 jin_xi merge conflicts are not soo scary 10:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:55 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam, im not done with textures yet. ive just finished engine patch on Taoki's request 10:56 RealBadAngel so she can now play correct 3d player animations 10:56 RealBadAngel it took me whole yestderday and a few hours in the morning 10:57 RealBadAngel the patch is submitted already 10:57 PilzAdam is this realy the best way to pass the keys to Lua? 10:57 KikaRz hey 10:57 KikaRz why my spawn isnt saved ? 10:57 KikaRz i went to the bed 10:57 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, the only way 10:57 KikaRz and i ve spawned into normal server spawn 10:58 RealBadAngel theres no other way in fact 10:58 PilzAdam could there be something like minetest.register_on_key_pressed(player, key)? 10:58 RealBadAngel now it could be 10:58 RealBadAngel thx to my code 10:58 RealBadAngel before server wasnt aware of player pressed keys 10:59 PilzAdam is the server protocol compatible? 10:59 RealBadAngel ive provided a way to transfer control structure from local player to remote player 10:59 RealBadAngel no, version shall be changed 11:00 RealBadAngel there are extra 2 bytes being sent to server 11:01 PilzAdam i dont like the get_player_control(); there should be a Lua function that is called when the player hits/releases a key 11:01 RealBadAngel so write it :) 11:01 RealBadAngel without my code its impossible 11:02 RealBadAngel api part is just a tiny piece of the patch 11:03 PilzAdam but this tiny piece seems to be.. wrong 11:03 RealBadAngel such functions you would like to have requires key values to be aviable on the server side 11:03 RealBadAngel that patch does it 11:03 RealBadAngel and the function you dont like is what Taoki needs 11:04 RealBadAngel in the future i may write triggered one too, its a good idea 11:05 Taoki PilzAdam: From my understanding of the code (which is limited) it looks fine. There's always room for implementing something in a better way of course. Rest assured, this is completely needed for animations to be possible with my models 11:05 PilzAdam I know that you need it for animation 11:05 KikaRz Lol 11:05 KikaRz so dumb 11:06 KikaRz it said: KikaRz added to bed X Y Z 11:06 RealBadAngel and i need it for creative inventory stuff 11:06 KikaRz -.- 11:06 KikaRz and i didnt checked the console 11:06 Taoki Only thing I wasn't sure about is if we should network those two extra bytes with player position each client / server tick, and send it with player position (instead of just when the player presses / unpresses a new key). But 2 extra bytes should make no difference, and might be better than pointlessly sending another set of packets from client to server 11:06 KikaRz going to check technic recipes. 11:07 RealBadAngel number of packets sent doesnt change 11:07 Taoki yeah 11:07 RealBadAngel its just extra 10 bytes/s total 11:07 RealBadAngel 2 bytes per each packet 11:07 Taoki PilzAdam: I think it might be best that the code simply updates which keys the player is pressing on the server, rather than calling a lua function. Since existing functions can know when to check them this way, instead of having to wait to be called 11:08 Taoki eg: If I have a lua function executing every few seconds, that function knows when to check for a pressed key 11:08 RealBadAngel for example im movin stuff from inventory to another one 11:08 Taoki Rather than having to add in an extra function that gets called and waiting for that to update the keys 11:08 RealBadAngel and check for shift pressed 11:08 RealBadAngel if so i move all of the kind 11:08 RealBadAngel instead of one stack 11:09 PilzAdam Taoki, yes, the get_player_control() is usefull, but register_on_key_pressed() too 11:09 Taoki If both of them can be added, that would also be nice 11:09 RealBadAngel if so some1 should write it 11:09 Taoki But the second part can be done later 11:09 Taoki As it's not really crucial for offering new functionality that wouldn't be possible without it 11:09 RealBadAngel i cant write everything possibly needed and nice at once 11:10 RealBadAngel this what ive done allows to do so 11:10 RealBadAngel and is not expected to solve everythin 11:11 PilzAdam Im wondering what c55 thinks about the patch 11:11 RealBadAngel idk, hes jumpin in and out whole day 11:12 Penguin Me ? 11:12 RealBadAngel you too:P 11:12 RealBadAngel we were talkin bout c55 11:12 Penguin oh 11:12 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, i have not the knowledge to decide such stuff 11:12 KikaRz is minetest.net down? 11:13 PilzAdam seems so 11:13 RealBadAngel yup 11:13 KikaRz :/ 11:14 Taoki yeah 11:14 Penguin RealBadAngle What is comming up for tecnic 11:14 Penguin ? 11:14 Taoki Not sure when celeron55 will be back again, but he's often here on IRC, so you can probably ask him to confirm. I looked at RBA's code and it seems ok to me, but my knowledge is still limited 11:15 PilzAdam the code is not the problem 11:16 PilzAdam we have to decide whats the best way to implement it 11:16 KikaRz RealBadAngel, can you send me the forum link for technic? 11:16 PilzAdam the forum is down 11:16 Penguin And ME 11:16 jin_xi will this also work for keypresses in formspecs? 11:16 KikaRz PilzAdam, not only forum 11:16 Penguin Thats Why I Carnt Get It 11:16 KikaRz but yes, the whole site 11:17 PilzAdam jin_xi, yes 11:17 RealBadAngel jin_xi, i will check that 11:17 Taoki yeah. It does look implemented ok-ish to me so... 11:17 Penguin Any One No How To Make A MK1 Constructior 11:17 KikaRz Forum down : [11:16] hmm... looks like there is some kind of a problem 11:17 Taoki BTW. Does anyone know if Kahrl is still around? 11:18 PilzAdam Taoki, I havent seen Kahrl since i joined the communtiy 11:18 PilzAdam c55.me is down too 11:18 KikaRz RealBadAngel, whats the recipe for solar panel? 11:19 Penguin Wafer 11:19 KikaRz i said PilzAdam 11:19 Penguin Copper 11:19 KikaRz the whole site is down 11:19 Penguin w w w 11:19 Penguin w c w 11:19 Penguin w w w 11:19 KikaRz c = ? 11:19 KikaRz copper? 11:19 Penguin yes 11:19 KikaRz or cobble? 11:19 KikaRz ok 11:19 KikaRz copper 11:20 RealBadAngel jin_xi, no, formspec and player movement are two separate things 11:20 Taoki PilzAdam: He made a shaders branch, which I'm very interested in reviving after this. celeron55 said he won't accept it because there aren't any useful default shaders, though I think the code should work 11:20 RealBadAngel it works and applies the shader 11:21 RealBadAngel but very primitive one 11:21 Taoki yes 11:21 Taoki I had one question about it, but I dunno if someone else knows the code 11:21 Penguin MK1 Constructor Recipe please? 11:22 Taoki hi 11:23 KikaRz Yes 11:23 KikaRz and C55.me 11:23 KikaRz and Minetest.net (whole site) 11:24 celeron55 c55.me is down due to a completely different reason 11:25 RealBadAngel hi celeron55, could you take a look at my patch? 11:25 celeron55 i have absolutely no idea why minetest.net doesn't answer to HTTP, i did some stuff in there but that shouldn't have caused anything odd, and i have already restarted the http server multiple times and it doesn't have any effect... 11:26 Jordach http bugs for the lose 11:28 RealBadAngel both doesnt respond to ping 11:28 Jordach reboot mre 11:28 Jordach mer 11:28 Jordach me 11:28 Taoki celeron55: PilzAdam was curious if you are ok with RealBadAngel's patch which implements reading of player pressed keys via lua (necessary for models to be animated for players). When you have some time you might wanna look at his code. I'm waiting for it to be in so I can do the final script for players so far :) 11:29 Taoki https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/commit/93a84b597f3206d5c81067b5f8ed830551b61188 11:30 Jordach john_minetest - incorrect, if you dont have the 3d player client you'll see the 2d player 11:30 Taoki Jordach: Sadly, it's worse. If you don't have the 3D player code, you can't connect to a server that does. Because of the protocol version. 11:31 Taoki It would probably crash if you did, since the client couldn't understand messages sent by the server 11:31 Taoki No way around it... protocol_version is there for that 11:31 Jordach Taoki - well, i mean with the client and the model and server, but the server has no model 11:32 Taoki The server must have the model. If it does the client doesn't need to, as it's put through the stream 11:32 Taoki In the case of the default player, the model is both on the client and server of course. But this is good to know for mods 11:36 KikaRz need to talk with Muadtralk 11:40 Jordach is he here 11:40 Jordach yes or no? 11:40 KikaRz nope 11:40 KikaRz omg 11:41 KikaRz he got a mesecon pistons thing below me 11:41 KikaRz and i cant make my generator 11:42 KikaRz RealBadAngel, how i make a battery box ? 11:58 OldCoder Hi 11:59 KikaRz Welcome OldCoder 11:59 OldCoder Yes 11:59 KikaRz Penguin, you said me the recipe wrong 11:59 KikaRz W W W 11:59 KikaRz W C W 11:59 KikaRz W W W dont works 11:59 OldCoder To answer the question from earlier I am here now 11:59 KikaRz OldCoder, here is 12:00 11:59 KikaRz it was 4 AM (USA) and i was here 11:59 KikaRz because it was 8 AM (EU) 11:59 KikaRz xd 12:02 RealBadAngel KikaRz, use doped wafers 12:02 KikaRz Where i get that? 12:02 KikaRz x_x' 12:02 RealBadAngel wafer + mithril dust in alloy furnace 12:02 KikaRz and where i get mithril? 12:02 RealBadAngel go mine some 12:02 KikaRz i have a guy at my side that got Technic things 12:02 KikaRz mining where? 12:02 RealBadAngel -512 and below 12:03 KikaRz o_o' 12:03 KikaRz so much... 12:03 KikaRz but ok... 12:10 KikaRz Lag is like X Ray 12:10 KikaRz reason: It shows us all caves 12:14 KikaRz alatro is rare? 12:17 Penguin Lonely on Coders Server :( 12:17 KikaRz only? 12:17 KikaRz im lonely in minetest.sytes.net:30001 server 12:18 KikaRz Welcome Back Celeron! 12:19 OldCoder Hi 12:19 OldCoder Penguin, we will through parties there sometime 12:19 OldCoder Then Lonely will be gone 12:20 Penguin Haha 12:21 Penguin Is There Any Way I Can Make A Pistion Door Opened But Playing A Tune With The NoteBlocks 12:21 Jordach Penguin, we will through parties there sometime s/through/throw 12:22 KikaRz Yep 12:22 Penguin how 12:22 KikaRz idk xd 12:22 KikaRz but there is a way 12:22 KikaRz a lever 12:22 OldCoder Hmm! 12:22 * OldCoder dislikes typos 12:22 KikaRz then you select 12:22 KikaRz the song 12:22 KikaRz and you put connected 12:22 KikaRz with pistons 12:25 KikaRz Welcome Back sfan5 12:25 sfan5 thx 12:27 Penguin Coder Can I Be VIP At The Party 12:27 OldCoder Penguin, of course 12:27 OldCoder You can serve the drinks 12:29 Penguin :) Wine From Hydro hehe 12:30 KikaRz Tux Penguin, you can bring us some "Wine". 12:30 KikaRz It might be good 12:30 KikaRz xd 12:31 Penguin i am duplicating it now 12:32 KikaRz RealBadAngel, im at -65.5 x_x 12:35 RealBadAngel dig further :) 12:40 KikaRz im at mese and gold level 12:41 Jordach celeron55 - can you "try" to fix minetest.net? 12:44 Penguin Coder Are You Serious About The Party thing 12:45 KikaRz nope 12:45 KikaRz he was kidding 12:45 Penguin :( 12:52 KikaRz just found 1 mithril. RealBadAngle 12:52 KikaRz *RealBadAngel 12:55 Penguin KikaRz Ever Been On Coders Server 12:55 RealBadAngel KikaRz, good. keep digging you will need lotsa more 12:55 KikaRz omg 12:55 KikaRz 2 mithril 12:56 KikaRz 1 alatro pickaxe 12:56 KikaRz at middle power 12:58 KikaRz who is moreores creator? 12:58 RealBadAngel Calinou 12:58 KikaRz ok, he's offline 12:58 KikaRz i got a tip. 12:58 KikaRz why him dont make a alatro pickaxe mining mese? 12:58 Jordach alatro is gloopores 12:58 Jordach gloopores != moreores 12:58 KikaRz that is? 12:59 Jordach moreores are real world stuff 12:59 KikaRz oh... 12:59 KikaRz ok. 12:59 Jordach (bar mithril) 12:59 KikaRz so 12:59 KikaRz who is gloopores creator? 12:59 Penguin gloopmaster 13:01 KikaRz time to go back home 13:01 KikaRz tired mining 13:01 Penguin Coder 13:04 OldCoder Worlds going down for emergency 13:04 OldCoder Apparently there is lava 13:04 KikaRz omg 13:05 KikaRz my furnace is a bit glitchy 13:05 KikaRz it bugs 13:05 OldCoder Hmm? 13:05 KikaRz got 3 mithril ingots 13:06 RealBadAngel you were supposed to make dusts from mithril lumps 13:06 RealBadAngel using grinder 13:06 KikaRz i dont have power 13:06 RealBadAngel make coal generator 13:07 KikaRz thats the reason that i want to make solar panels 13:07 RealBadAngel or water mill 13:07 KikaRz and i make coal generator... how? 13:07 KikaRz and water mill how? 13:07 KikaRz '-' 13:07 OldCoder Shutdown canceled for now 13:08 KikaRz got my furnace bugged. 13:15 RealBadAngel again today? what happened this time to the furnace? 13:16 Penguin RealBadAngel Can U Work On The Tubes So Thay Go In To Chests Please 13:16 RealBadAngel im workin on it, will be released when its done 13:17 Penguin Any idear When And Its Fantastic mod 13:18 RealBadAngel need to get some stuff to work in the 1st place 13:19 KikaRz how i make a water mill 13:19 KikaRz or a grinder? 13:19 Penguin Grinder 13:19 RealBadAngel open grinder.lua or water_mill.lua 13:19 Penguin Desert Store D 13:19 RealBadAngel and check the recipes 13:20 Penguin Steel 13:20 Penguin Stone ST 13:20 Penguin Copper C 13:20 Penguin DS DS DS 13:20 Penguin DS Copper DS 13:20 Penguin STEEL STEEL STEEL 13:21 Penguin OR STEEL COpper STeel 13:25 Penguin Am I RIght 13:27 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:grinder', 13:27 RealBadAngel recipe = { 13:27 RealBadAngel {'default:desert_stone', 'default:desert_stone', 'default:desert_stone'}, 13:27 RealBadAngel {'default:desert_stone', 'technic:diamond', 'default:desert_stone'}, 13:27 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', 'moreores:copper_ingot', 'default:stone'}, 13:27 RealBadAngel } 13:28 Penguin So Close noooo lol 13:30 KikaRz why my Tool Workshop isnt receiving energy from generator? :c 13:30 KikaRz im using a low voltage copper cable 13:34 Penguin its should do 13:34 KikaRz OW 13:34 KikaRz I NEED A ENERGY BOX 13:34 KikaRz right? 13:34 RealBadAngel yup 13:34 RealBadAngel battery box 13:38 KikaRz where i get a diamond? 13:38 RealBadAngel digging time ;) 13:38 RealBadAngel -250 and below 13:39 KikaRz Omg 13:39 KikaRz Hate that 13:39 KikaRz Let me use my super powers 13:39 KikaRz and 13:39 KikaRz tell me the recipe of laser mining? 13:39 KikaRz Hi there mr Ray 8888 13:39 ray8888 hey 13:40 KikaRz RealBadAngel, there is a laser minining? 13:40 KikaRz i want to mine faster 13:41 Penguin Mese Con And Tecnic = First Duplicator made by me 13:42 KikaRz RealBadAngel 13:42 KikaRz how i get a laser miner? 13:42 Penguin Can I Speed Up The Blinky Plant 13:43 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:laser_mk1', 13:43 RealBadAngel recipe = { 13:43 RealBadAngel {'technic:diamond', 'default:steel_ingot', 'technic:battery'}, 13:43 RealBadAngel {'', 'default:steel_ingot', 'technic:battery'}, 13:43 RealBadAngel {'', '', 'moreores:copper_ingot'}, 13:44 OldCoder Back 13:44 RealBadAngel Penguin, duplication bugs are provided by pistons, not technic stuff 13:49 Penguin Trans Port Tubes And Node Breaker 13:57 Penguin Bored 13:58 KikaRz ray8888, did you left server? 14:02 Penguin Hi Coder Server Lonely This Morning 14:08 KikaRz Trying to find the stupid diamonds 14:10 Jordach RealBadAngel - diamonds should not be near -500 14:11 Penguin make a teleporter then teleport to -999.5 14:11 Jordach IRL, they are made around 180km under the earth we stand on 14:11 Jordach (until we get endless maps, never gunna happen) 14:12 KikaRz Recipe of teleport please. 14:12 KikaRz *teleporter 14:12 OldCoder Penguin, wait a while 14:12 OldCoder john_minetest, Infinite Maps are the Haps! 14:13 KikaRz RealBadAngel, give me teleporter recipe 14:14 Jordach OldCoder - can you grep the current source? 14:14 OldCoder john_minetest, sure 14:14 KikaRz or someone 14:14 OldCoder Oops 14:14 OldCoder Jordach, sure 14:14 ruskie KikaRz, go to the forums and look it up 14:14 OldCoder What for? 14:14 KikaRz Forums offline 14:14 OldCoder Again? 14:14 OldCoder We need to set up a separate MySQL server 14:14 OldCoder Oh! 14:14 OldCoder Teleport Recipe? 14:14 OldCoder Hold on 14:15 Penguin wood =W 14:15 OldCoder Who is looking for what? 14:15 Penguin Glass 14:15 OldCoder Jordach, ^ 14:15 Penguin Mese 14:15 Penguin w m w 14:15 KikaRz Im looking for Teleporter recipe 14:15 Penguin w g w 14:15 KikaRz The requested resource could not be loaded. libcurl returned the error: connect() timed out!. Either try again or check that you are entering a valid URL. 14:15 Penguin w w w 14:15 KikaRz w = ? 14:15 KikaRz wood? 14:15 Penguin Wood 14:15 KikaRz m = mese? 14:15 KikaRz g = ? 14:15 Penguin Or Change The Glass And Mese Around 14:15 Penguin m 14:16 Penguin mese 14:16 KikaRz ok 14:16 Penguin G GLass 14:16 KikaRz penguin 14:16 KikaRz going to try your idea 14:16 KikaRz teleporting to 995.5 14:16 KikaRz -995.5 * 14:16 RealBadAngel jordach diamonds are -250 and below 14:18 KikaRz i dont find them at -250 14:18 RealBadAngel im tesing once again set_meta_nodedef branch by c55 14:18 RealBadAngel and cannot understand why celeron haven merged it 14:19 RealBadAngel maybe a slight problem with lights when changin nodeboxes 14:19 RealBadAngel but work changing textures it works ok 14:24 KikaRz RealBadAngel, im getting angry. 14:24 RealBadAngel because? 14:25 KikaRz DIAMONDS DONT APPEAR! 14:25 RealBadAngel go where you have found your mithril and keep diggin 14:27 RealBadAngel heh, i just converted another windows user to linux 14:27 ruskie I generally don't bother unless I get asked 14:27 RealBadAngel deleted 7 and istalled ubuntu for him 14:28 RealBadAngel well i do get paid for it 14:28 ruskie I dislike any negativity that most users have 14:28 ruskie hehe 14:28 RealBadAngel reinstalling OS costs 50 pln 14:29 KikaRz Talinite. -.- 14:29 RealBadAngel yup, but theyre a bit suprised when i show them how linux works 14:29 ruskie RealBadAngel, as long as they won't throw a fit about how it's crap and so on(sorry but seen to many of these from users that didn't want it) 14:30 RealBadAngel and mostly stays with linux and never come back to windows 14:30 RealBadAngel i laugh sometimes when they ask also for installing antivirus software 14:32 RealBadAngel ppl say so because they read somwhere somethin, or heard 14:32 RealBadAngel but never in fact were using linux 14:33 jin_xi Hey RealBadAngel, i tried to work on tetris some more, trying to code stuff differently 14:33 RealBadAngel and? 14:33 jin_xi but i feel it does not really change things... 14:33 OldCoder RealBadAngel, AV for Linux 14:33 OldCoder heh 14:33 jin_xi but feel free to check it out 14:33 jin_xi its in branch "hack" 14:33 RealBadAngel i will tommorow 14:33 KikaRz i know 1 AV 14:33 RealBadAngel now im workin on c55's not merged branch 14:33 KikaRz Avast... 14:33 RealBadAngel need it to be merged 14:34 jin_xi tried to use from_/to_table 14:34 jin_xi just so you know 14:34 RealBadAngel with it we get rid of furnace_active inactive broken or shit stuff 14:34 RealBadAngel to save game data? 14:34 jin_xi yes 14:35 RealBadAngel use the same way i did for variables 14:35 RealBadAngel serialize and deserialize 14:35 jin_xi yes 14:35 jin_xi but i tried to minimize calls to set/get meta and serialize 14:35 RealBadAngel theyre needed 14:36 jin_xi ah well, wasted work i feel 14:36 RealBadAngel and dont worry as much bout them 14:36 jin_xi i know, but i thought i could do it only once per step 14:36 jin_xi but i think you're right 14:36 jin_xi on another note: i will never again translate code 14:36 RealBadAngel remember better is always an enemy of good 14:37 RealBadAngel trying to things get better fuck them up often :) 14:37 jin_xi lol i should know by now, but i don't 14:39 Penguin Coder Are You On A Server 14:40 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/nodedef.png 14:40 RealBadAngel default dirt treated with tester tool 2 14:40 RealBadAngel all sides have different textures 14:43 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/nodedef2.png view from behind 14:44 RealBadAngel i think this patch is a must have 14:44 RealBadAngel mods will get whole lot shorter thx to it 14:45 KikaRz RealBadAngel 14:46 KikaRz i've found many mithril 14:46 KikaRz but not DIAMONDS 14:46 KikaRz THEY ARE TOO RARE! 14:46 RealBadAngel you have bad luck then 14:47 RealBadAngel last time i went digging i got like 40 of them 14:47 RealBadAngel got 2 stacks of diamonds at my base 14:52 KikaRz its in caves? 14:53 KikaRz Omg 14:53 ruskie I managed to get 70 at one time 14:54 KikaRz no more pickaxes. 14:54 KikaRz need to go back 14:54 ruskie you don't have any sticks and cobble or mese? 14:55 KikaRz i got the Pickaxe of the gods 14:59 KikaRz 7 mithrils 14:59 KikaRz 9 stacks of cobble 15:00 Penguin Coder I am tthe only persoon thats ben on the server to day :9 15:00 Octupus Hola 15:00 Octupus Hello 15:00 Octupus Hi Penguin 15:00 OldCoder Penguin, it is early in the U.S. 15:00 OldCoder Octupus, Aloha 15:00 KikaRz getting mithrel dust... 15:01 OldCoder Penguin You may wish to mention the lava mine to Octupus 15:01 KikaRz 14 dusts.. 15:01 Octupus Lava mine? 15:01 OldCoder Remember to discuss with Baby Face as well 15:01 harrison She ankled seductively into the voxel sauna. A sheen of tiny blocks of sweat soon covered her upper lip area. 15:01 OldCoder Octupus, he says there is a mine that has a bit of lava 15:01 Octupus :O 15:01 OldCoder May wish to block it off or WorldEdit it away 15:01 OldCoder I can back up before any experiments 15:02 OldCoder harrison that sounds like an interesting ebook 15:02 KikaRz RealBadAngel, what i do with 14 mithrel dusts? 15:02 OldCoder MT: The Final Frenzy 15:02 RealBadAngel you can make 7 doped waffers 15:02 KikaRz Its the necessary ? 15:02 KikaRz for that panels? 15:02 Octupus Hi RealBadAngel 15:02 RealBadAngel if you want to have panels, yes 15:03 RealBadAngel hi 15:03 KikaRz yea 15:03 KikaRz The energy is faster with panels 15:03 Octupus OldCoder: Il see what I can do when I get on pc 15:03 Penguin Thanks 15:04 KikaRz how i make doped waffers? 15:04 KikaRz in furnace? 15:05 RealBadAngel alloy furnace 15:05 RealBadAngel first make silicon wafer out of sand and coal dust 15:05 KikaRz that is? 15:05 KikaRz how i make that? 15:06 RealBadAngel coal dust you make in grinder 15:06 KikaRz Yep.. but silicon wafer? 15:07 RealBadAngel 2sand+2 coal dust in alloy furnace gives you 1 silicon wafer 15:07 RealBadAngel 1 silicon wafer + 2 mithril dusts -> 1 doped wafer 15:07 KikaRz whats that furnace? 15:07 RealBadAngel Alloy Furnace 15:08 KikaRz how i make it? 15:08 RealBadAngel theres coal driven one, or electric one 15:08 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:alloy_furnace', 15:08 RealBadAngel recipe = { 15:08 RealBadAngel {'default:brick', 'default:brick', 'default:brick'}, 15:08 RealBadAngel {'default:brick', '', 'default:brick'}, 15:08 RealBadAngel {'default:steel_ingot', 'moreores:copper_ingot', 'default:steel_ingot'}, 15:08 RealBadAngel } 15:08 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:coal_alloy_furnace', 15:09 RealBadAngel recipe = { 15:09 RealBadAngel {'default:brick', 'default:brick', 'default:brick'}, 15:09 RealBadAngel {'default:brick', '', 'default:brick'}, 15:09 RealBadAngel {'default:brick', 'default:brick', 'default:brick'}, 15:09 RealBadAngel } 15:09 KikaRz brick = that brick block or 1 brik? 15:09 RealBadAngel brick block 15:09 Octupus Np Penguin 15:09 KikaRz got 99 15:10 KikaRz need energy to work? 15:10 Penguin Coder And Octu Lava Pools Are At 1221.7,-1090.5,48.9 can u clear all of lava not cover the top i will be on the server but afk for 1 hour 15:10 Penguin AFK 15:11 Octupus Alright 15:11 ruskie what's the panic about lava? 15:12 Octupus Lava pool 15:18 Penguin_ hi 15:18 KikaRz got 9 doped wafers 15:18 Octupus Hi Penguin_ 15:19 Penguin_ hi I am on my black berry its well weird 15:19 Octupus Kay 15:20 Penguin_ have you don't it 15:20 Penguin_ What time You Do ing it 15:22 Octupus Soon when. I get pc 15:22 KikaRz how i make a mitril chest? 15:23 KikaRz Calinou 15:23 Penguin_ lol 15:23 Calinou KikaRz: there are no mithril chests in more ores :) 15:23 Calinou they're in technic 15:23 KikaRz ok 15:23 KikaRz so RealBadAngel 15:24 Calinou (unrelated) happy birthday minecraft 1.0 15:24 Calinou :p 15:24 RealBadAngel start from iron chest 15:25 RealBadAngel surround wooden chest with steel ingots 15:25 RealBadAngel then iron one with copper 15:25 KikaRz wait 15:25 Jordach Calinou - wanna craft a cake 15:25 RealBadAngel silver, gold and finally with mithril 15:25 Calinou Jordach: no milk :( 15:26 Jordach to MOBf 15:26 Jordach 15:26 KikaRz hey 15:26 KikaRz a mithril locked chest is with iron in the middle? 15:27 RealBadAngel no, the gold one 15:28 RealBadAngel you have to upgrade your chests 15:28 RealBadAngel john_minetest, talk to OldCoder 15:28 KikaRz No 15:29 KikaRz He's running out of servers 15:29 KikaRz getting without memory 15:37 OdnetninI minetest.net is down, no? 15:38 babyface1031 hi Octupus 15:38 Octupus Hi babyface1031 and Penguin_ 15:38 babyface1031 hi Penguin 15:39 Penguin_ hi I will be in in 10 minits. AFK on server 15:40 babyface1031 ok 15:41 Penguin_ :) are you on server 15:41 KikaRz Ohai babyface1031 15:41 babyface1031 hi 15:41 KikaRz People, who can enter into this server ? im alone 15:41 babyface1031 yes i am 15:41 KikaRz minetest.sytes.net:30002 15:41 KikaRz No 15:41 KikaRz minetest.sytes.net:30001 15:41 KikaRz that 15:41 KikaRz 30001 15:41 Penguin_ is it just you and me AFK 15:41 babyface1031 i am on Octupus server port 30004 15:41 babyface1031 at minetest.org 15:41 babyface1031 yes 15:42 Octupus :) 15:42 Penguin_ Octupus Server 30004 is the best server have ever been on :) 15:42 Octupus babyface1031: I haven't seen silverwolf in awhile 15:42 Octupus How nice Penguin_ :) 15:42 babyface1031 me too i think she isnt coming over 15:43 Penguin_ I mean it octu 15:43 KikaRz going to try to discover again diamond. ft. RealBadAngel 15:43 Octupus :) 15:44 KikaRz FOUND DIAMOND! 15:44 KikaRz 2 diamonds *-* 15:44 Penguin_ I have 178 dimonds lol 15:45 Octupus Lolz 15:46 Penguin_ baby face are you any good at mesecons 15:46 babyface1031 some depends on what it is 15:47 Penguin_ micro controlor 15:47 OldCoder Hi 15:47 Octupus Hi OldCoder 15:47 babyface1031 Hi @OldCoder 15:47 Penguin_ hi Coder :) 15:47 babyface1031 i have one i am not useing you can have 15:47 OldCoder john_minetest, I am running low on CPU. It would need to be a good world. 15:48 Calinou you're low on CPU with one server with amazon... 15:48 Calinou ...unless they have ads 15:48 Penguin_ baby face I mean do you now how to use then 15:48 Penguin_ I am going on server now 15:49 OldCoder Calinou, I am running about 18 worlds now 15:49 OldCoder Including *yours* :P 15:50 OldCoder Calinou, speaking of which make it possible for people to escape that entry trap or we'll need to move spawn 15:50 OldCoder Right now I need to TP people out of there 15:50 babyface1031 oh you use them for other mesecon stuff 15:50 OldCoder john_minetest, the world looks good 15:52 KikaRz yep 15:52 KikaRz Calinou, i've been stucked below the trampoline 15:55 KikaRz RealBadAngel 15:55 KikaRz What i can do with 3 diamonds XD 15:55 KikaRz ? 15:56 KikaRz A laser miner 15:57 RealBadAngel for a laser you need just one diamond 15:57 RealBadAngel for mining drill 13 i think 15:58 KikaRz a laser what does? 15:58 KikaRz just mines stone? 15:59 KikaRz '-' 15:59 KikaRz RealBAdAngel 16:00 RealBadAngel hold on 16:00 RealBadAngel using laser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L44DC_UYx4&feature=plcp 16:01 RealBadAngel you may find interesting also other vids in my channel 16:01 RealBadAngel theyre mostly on technic features 16:01 KikaRz what is better? 16:01 KikaRz a drill or a laser? 16:03 KikaRz oh, i thinked that was automatic 16:03 KikaRz and it was saving minerals , stone etc in a chest 16:05 RealBadAngel with laser you can quickly make tunnels 16:06 RealBadAngel mining drill digs in old fashion way but it works with maximum digging speed with any object 16:06 RealBadAngel and both are recharcheable tools 16:06 RealBadAngel they dont break, you need to recharge them just in battery box 16:06 KikaRz ok 16:06 KikaRz but whats the range 16:06 KikaRz of drill and laser? 16:07 RealBadAngel laser range is about 10 nodes 16:07 KikaRz nodes are? 16:07 KikaRz blocks? 16:07 RealBadAngel mining drill works same way as picks, you have to point the node you want to dig 16:08 RealBadAngel blocks are groups of nodes, 16x16x16 16:08 RealBadAngel node is single stone, wood etc 16:09 RealBadAngel so with one laser shot you can dig up to 10 nodes 16:09 KikaRz how i make eletric furnace? 16:09 RealBadAngel {'default:cobble', 'default:cobble', 'default:cobble'}, 16:09 RealBadAngel {'default:cobble', '', 'default:cobble'}, 16:09 RealBadAngel {'default:steel_ingot', 'moreores:copper_ingot', 'default:steel_ingot'}, 16:11 KikaRz using eletric furnace is faster 16:12 Dogzilla131 is there a mod to make aboat? 16:12 Dogzilla131 *a boat 16:13 KikaRz I guess yes. 16:13 KikaRz if not, we can do that 16:13 PilzAdam there is no boat mod 16:13 KikaRz Pilz 16:13 KikaRz there is a way to make one 16:13 KikaRz based in that rail ... 16:13 KikaRz rail... 16:13 Dogzilla131 or on ice 16:13 Dogzilla131 ice floats 16:13 RealBadAngel making boat mod will make sense when Taoki code will get merged 16:14 RealBadAngel until then boats will suffer same glitches as carts 16:14 KikaRz yea, there is a cart mod 16:14 KikaRz how we craft the cart? 16:15 RealBadAngel carts now are not really useable 16:15 RealBadAngel and servers rather dont have this mod 16:16 KikaRz have 8 mithril lumps. 16:17 OldCoder NakedFury, hi 16:17 NakedFury hi 16:17 RealBadAngel hi 16:17 KikaRz RealBadAngel 16:17 KikaRz what we really need to do a ... wafer? 16:17 KikaRz 2 sands... 16:18 KikaRz RealBadAngel, how i make the laser? 16:19 RealBadAngel 2 sands and 2 coal dusts 16:20 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:laser_mk1', 16:20 RealBadAngel recipe = { 16:20 RealBadAngel {'technic:diamond', 'default:steel_ingot', 'technic:battery'}, 16:20 RealBadAngel {'', 'default:steel_ingot', 'technic:battery'}, 16:20 RealBadAngel {'', '', 'moreores:copper_ingot'}, 16:20 RealBadAngel } 16:21 Calinou RealBadAngel: you should add a minetest.conf entry for disabling laser/drill ;) 16:22 RealBadAngel i already added that to /technic/config.lua 16:22 RealBadAngel will be out with next update 16:22 KikaRz why we cant use desert sand? :c 16:22 RealBadAngel made lotsa things configurable 16:23 RealBadAngel if you need sand, cook coble to stone, then grind stone to sand 16:26 KikaRz Hey 16:26 KikaRz tell me all things that we must do for solar pane 16:28 KikaRz got silicon wafles 16:28 RealBadAngel now put them with mithril dusts into alloy furnace 16:29 KikaRz ok 16:29 RealBadAngel for solar panel you need 8 of them and copper ingot in the middle 16:50 Octupus 16:50 KikaRz charging my laser *-* 16:51 Octupus What's your make up 16:51 Octupus Crayons maybe? 16:56 Penguin OldCoder Big Thanks To BabyFace1031 As She Cleared The Lava Pools Thanks BabyFace1031 16:56 OldCoder Hi 16:56 OldCoder babyface1031, thank you! 16:57 babyface1031 np first time clearing lave 16:57 babyface1031 *lava 16:57 OldCoder Lava is not the best neighbor 16:57 OldCoder Makes life interesting 16:57 babyface1031 well i have a lava moat so i dont mind it 16:57 OldCoder lava moat needs a boat to float 16:59 KikaRz With your pretty laser, i found 1 diamond! 17:04 * ruskie tends to use lava in his builds 17:13 KikaRz RealBadAngel 17:13 KikaRz This laser isnt very efficient 17:13 KikaRz look what i got: 17:13 KikaRz 19 stacks of cobble: 17:13 KikaRz 31 iron 17:13 KikaRz 7 clay 17:13 KikaRz 31 gravel 17:13 KikaRz 1 diamond 17:14 KikaRz 1 arol, copper and mithril 17:14 RealBadAngel you mean its not overpowered ;) recharge it just 17:14 KikaRz 3 golds 1 tallnite 3 calnite 17:15 RealBadAngel i do have 4 lasers, 5 mining drills, battery box, and blue energy crystal in my pocket 17:15 RealBadAngel to recharge tools when im on digging 17:15 KikaRz blue energy crystal = ? 17:15 RealBadAngel dont forget the flashlight 17:15 KikaRz lol 17:15 KikaRz no problem with flashlights 17:15 KikaRz i use fly 17:15 KikaRz then randomly use laser 17:15 RealBadAngel fly is like cheating 17:16 RealBadAngel at least on survival servers 17:16 RealBadAngel to make energy crystals you need 9 diamonds 17:17 KikaRz what that does? 17:17 RealBadAngel its a portable battery 17:17 RealBadAngel blue one is circa like 10 batboxes 17:20 KikaRz tthat laser is not OVER POWAAAAAH! 17:21 YuGiOhJCJ Hello, when I want to compile I got this error : 17:21 ruskie it lacks finesse 17:21 YuGiOhJCJ celeron55-minetest-5292476/src/util/serialize.h:31:32: error: reference to ‘u64’ is ambiguous 17:21 KikaRz RealBadAngel 17:21 KikaRz That laser is not over powah 17:21 YuGiOhJCJ do you know what to do? 17:22 RealBadAngel YuGiOhJCJ, what os? 17:22 YuGiOhJCJ RealBadAngel, Slackware 13.37 17:22 KikaRz LE.ET 17:22 KikaRz '-' 17:22 RealBadAngel intstalled all required libraries? 17:24 YuGiOhJCJ mmm not sure... I just download the irrlicht-1.8 and I compiled like this : cmake . -DIRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=... -DIRRLICHT_LIBRARY=... -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 17:24 YuGiOhJCJ I will read the readme.txt file again to see if I miss something 17:24 RealBadAngel readme.txt line #78 17:25 RealBadAngel minetest is not workin with irrlicht 1.8 17:25 RealBadAngel yet 17:25 RealBadAngel use exact dependecies as in the readme 17:26 YuGiOhJCJ the problem is in the readme file I see only the Debian specific packages 17:26 YuGiOhJCJ But the equivalent packages are installed on my Slackware 17:26 thexyz RealBadAngel: really? it worked for me (and some other users too) 17:27 RealBadAngel edit boxes with 1.8 are not displayed correctly 17:27 YuGiOhJCJ ok 1.7 17:27 RealBadAngel thats why Jeija prepared a patch for minetest 17:28 RealBadAngel default colors of background and font are different 17:28 YuGiOhJCJ is it enough to download irrlicht like I do or I need to build and install it ? 17:29 OldCoder Hi. We're going to give people their own avatars. Would anybody like to help me draw some? 17:29 OldCoder Similar to this: 17:29 OldCoder http://minetest.org/player.png 17:29 RealBadAngel i guess installing 1.7.1 is just fine 17:29 OldCoder http://minetest.org/player_back.png 17:29 babyface1031 ohh own avata :D 17:29 OldCoder Yep 17:29 OldCoder I need pictures the shape of those two 17:29 OldCoder Will anybody help draw some? 17:29 OldCoder Think it over and get back to me 17:30 babyface1031 i would but i not a good drawer D: 17:30 OldCoder Must be twice as high as long. Preferably 256 by 128. 17:30 OldCoder Two pictures, PNG format, front and back of player. 17:30 babyface1031 i dont even know where to start 17:30 RealBadAngel draw a head ;) 17:30 YuGiOhJCJ but I have 1.7.3 on the official website... Not 1.7.1... Do you think it's a problem? 17:30 KikaRz hey 17:30 OldCoder NekoGloop can be a cat. RealBadAngel... maybe an angel with weapons. 17:31 KikaRz im going to make my own 17:31 KikaRz :D 17:31 OldCoder Go for it 17:31 babyface1031 do i use paint or what program to start 17:31 KikaRz pixel editor? 17:31 RealBadAngel OldCoder, with my own player model i wait for 3D players 17:32 YuGiOhJCJ forget what I said, as we are on sourceforge, I can get the 1.7.1 17:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, You can have 2D angels too 17:33 NakedFury waiting for 3d models too 17:33 RealBadAngel i will try to draw one 17:33 NakedFury going to be so much better to have them 17:33 Jordach NakedFury - the texture is made by me 17:33 RealBadAngel i think one from Heroes of might and magic 3 would be cool 17:33 KikaRz my model will be the best 17:33 KikaRz :p 17:33 KikaRz we can use pixel editor? 17:34 NakedFury I do wish we can have later an original character model 17:34 KikaRz hey, OldCoder 17:34 RealBadAngel http://www.celestialheavens.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3380 17:34 KikaRz how will you get own player models? 17:34 RealBadAngel you can make your own textures 17:34 RealBadAngel or use minecraft ones 17:35 RealBadAngel formats are compatible 17:35 Calinou do not use minecraft textures 17:35 Calinou these are not under a free license 17:35 Calinou and 103.6% of community-made minecraft skins are not under a free license 17:35 RealBadAngel theres a site with free skins and the creator 17:35 YuGiOhJCJ also... I am wondering why the minetest.net web site is down... Is there a problem with the server? 17:35 Calinou what license? CC BY-NC-ND? 17:35 * Calinou actually seen someone using that license 17:35 Calinou YuGiOhJCJ: there is :/ 17:35 KikaRz Calinou 17:36 KikaRz if its our own models from minecraft 17:36 KikaRz we can use tbhem 17:36 KikaRz -.- 17:36 thexyz Calinou: most minecraft texture packs are under that license iirc 17:36 RealBadAngel http://www.minershoes.com/ 17:36 KikaRz going to take a shower 17:36 Calinou thexyz: lol no 17:36 RealBadAngel those are not from texture packs 17:36 Calinou more like "all rights reserved" :) 17:36 RealBadAngel or the game 17:37 RealBadAngel players work 17:38 PilzAdam when will the forum be back up? 17:38 RealBadAngel Content licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License. 17:38 Calinou ah 17:38 RealBadAngel hundreds of player skins 17:41 ruskie I really should make a skin from my avatar 17:43 OldCoder mrtux, Hi. Octupus wb 17:43 Octupus Thank you babyface1031 17:43 OldCoder Apparently there is already a mod for player avatars 17:43 mrtux hi oldcoder 17:43 Octupus Hi OldCoder 17:44 OldCoder So I don't need to patch anything 17:44 OldCoder Skins will be added to my worlds soon 17:44 babyface1031 ty for what? 17:44 babyface1031 cool 17:44 Octupus For clearing da lava 17:51 babyface1031 oh np 17:51 Octupus :) 17:52 RealBadAngel nice skin editor: http://minecraft.novaskin.me/ 17:54 NakedFury using //stack y -1000 goes at most -80 layers with WorldEdit 17:54 YuGiOhJCJ Ok with irrlicht 1.7.1 the build is completed at 100% but I got an error at the end 17:55 YuGiOhJCJ sky.cpp:(.text._ZN3irr5scene10ISceneNode11getMaterialEj[irr::scene::ISceneNode::getMaterial(unsigned int)]+0x1): undefined reference to `irr::video::IdentityMaterial' 17:56 YuGiOhJCJ Do you see why it doesn't find the reference? 17:57 YuGiOhJCJ more details here : http://pastebin.com/A74r4752 17:58 KikaRz back 17:58 KikaRz oh, everybody waited for me to contineu here 17:58 Jordach YuGiOhJCJ - upgrade Irrlicht to 1.7.3 17:59 YuGiOhJCJ ok 18:00 babyface1031 @Oldcoder is the novaskin what our avatars will come from 18:01 YuGiOhJCJ here we go for a new build -_-' 18:01 OldCoder babyface1031, I haven't tried it. Pretty much any good quality 2x1 aspect ratio front and back PNGs should work 18:01 KikaRz I got a idea for our new skins and avatars! 18:01 KikaRz OldCoder 18:01 OldCoder KikaRz, yes 18:01 KikaRz we can make a server that host the skins, avatars etc 18:01 OldCoder Go on 18:01 KikaRz then we use there the Forum accounts 18:01 babyface1031 it is neat lot of diffrent stuff to add 18:01 OldCoder Sure 18:01 KikaRz In there, we can upload skins 18:02 KikaRz and we can choose in the client which skin we use 18:02 OldCoder Whatever works; there are different options 18:02 KikaRz yep 18:02 Octupus Call me maybe? 18:02 OldCoder ? 18:02 OldCoder "Me: 18:02 OldCoder "Me" 18:02 KikaRz like: Client skin is uploaded to the server (server will get laggy) 18:04 KikaRz or... The server got a blist of skins and the using users 18:06 PilzAdam Taoki, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRd25ZdZZI4 18:09 KikaRz OldCoder 18:09 KikaRz Did you know that... 18:09 OldCoder Yes? 18:09 OldCoder PilzAdam, you hadn't mentioned your skins mod 18:10 KikaRz Minetest is done 45 % by perttu, 25 % by users and 30 % by modificators ? 18:10 KikaRz the users and coders are helping for minetest 18:11 PilzAdam OldCoder, what? 18:11 Calinou fun fact: on minetest's ohloh page, c-fifty-five has lower "kudos" than another random contributor that "broke liquids, IIRC" 18:11 Calinou :) 18:15 KikaRz RealBadAngel 18:15 KikaRz tell me other forms to produce energy. 18:15 KikaRz because i got a lot of cobble 18:15 OldCoder PilzAdam, I'm told that you did a player texture mod 18:15 OldCoder yes. it is called player_textures by pilzadam. 18:16 RealBadAngel KikaRz, make water mills 18:16 KikaRz how? 18:17 RealBadAngel KikaRz, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kZPbNXl6T0&feature=plcp 18:17 KikaRz i cant visit youtube sites 18:17 KikaRz when ingame 18:17 KikaRz tell me in query 18:17 RealBadAngel too complicated, exit the game then watch 18:18 Jordach aw man. minetest.net still down 18:18 Jordach also: we have 90+ users here!! :D 18:19 KikaRz 26 stacks of cobble 18:19 KikaRz X_X' 18:19 KikaRz what i do with it? 18:20 KikaRz ... 18:20 KikaRz you smart. 18:20 KikaRz -.-' 18:20 KikaRz need to make a storage 18:21 KikaRz like in my old house 18:21 KikaRz youtube.com/joaoadriano3 18:21 KikaRz look at that video that i recorded 18:21 KikaRz mr RealBadAngel, tell me the recipe 18:22 Octupus Hmmmmmmmmm soup 18:22 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', 'default:stone', 'default:stone'}, 18:22 RealBadAngel {'default:wood', 'technic:diamond', 'default:wood'}, 18:22 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', 'moreores:copper_ingot', 'default:stone'}, 18:22 OldCoder Soup Is Good Food 18:22 Octupus I'm eating soup :) 18:22 RealBadAngel me too, right now 18:23 NakedFury I like tomato soup 18:23 KikaRz Lol 18:23 Octupus I got chicken soup 18:23 Octupus ;) 18:24 NakedFury spicy or normal. 18:24 KikaRz I got vegetables soap 18:24 artur99 hi 18:24 OldCoder artur99, Hi 18:24 OldCoder artur99, how are things? 18:24 KikaRz Artur, bem vindo! Vejo que é de Portugal/Brasil. 18:25 artur99 im romanian 18:25 OldCoder KikaRz, he does not speak Portuguese 18:25 KikaRz ok 18:25 Octupus Normal NakedFury 18:25 KikaRz '-' 18:25 OldCoder *Portugese 18:25 KikaRz ** PORTUGUESE 18:25 OldCoder Sorry 18:25 KikaRz artur, your IP is natural from Portugal 18:25 OldCoder Em boca cerrado nao entra mosca! 18:25 KikaRz -.- 18:25 artur99 who is the owner of the europe server? 18:25 KikaRz o_o' 18:25 OldCoder Me 18:25 KikaRz oldcoder 18:25 OldCoder <-- Europe 18:25 KikaRz Fecha a boca senão entra uma mosca. 18:25 KikaRz thats the true sentence 18:26 OldCoder KikaRz, I only remember a little of the language 18:26 OldCoder My aunt speaks it 18:26 artur99 and why i cant acces it sometimes? 18:26 OldCoder artur99, How often? 18:26 Octupus OldCoder: Where's the fly 18:26 OldCoder artur99, It is usually up 18:26 OldCoder Octupus, Apparently buzzing outside the closed mouth 18:26 artur99 20h/24h 18:26 OldCoder Angry because it cannot get in 18:26 Octupus :D 18:26 OldCoder artur99, The server is usually up 18:26 artur99 randomly 18:26 OldCoder artur99, The server is usually up 18:26 artur99 up? 18:26 OldCoder Running. Working. 18:27 OldCoder Healthy. Happy. Living a good life. 18:27 artur99 so often? 18:27 OldCoder Dieting. Exercising. 18:27 OldCoder It is a good server. 18:27 artur99 and when will be playlable? 18:27 OldCoder artur99, Right now 18:27 artur99 KikaRz where do u know my ip? 18:27 OldCoder It should be up now 18:28 artur99 ok, ill try 18:28 KikaRz == artur99 [d5e95c60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.233.92.96] has joined #minetest 18:28 artur99 aaa 18:28 artur99 i must make my ip dinamyc 18:29 KikaRz not my problem 18:29 KikaRz but yes, IRC 18:29 artur99 now is working... 18:29 artur99 bun when will be a server full? 18:30 OldCoder artur99, Can you explain the question? 18:30 artur99 the servers are so deserted 18:30 OldCoder Then we must fill them 18:30 OldCoder With joy and celebration 18:30 OldCoder Dancing in the virtual streets 18:31 Jordach here we go, the jester must be singing 18:31 artur99 i have some ideas for this game: 18:31 artur99 to exist cars, boats, and road 18:31 Calinou servers.minetest.ru has way too much players, this is worsened by the lack of player count 18:31 Calinou servers* 18:31 OldCoder Calinou, send them to your world 18:31 Calinou lags 18:31 OldCoder Calinou, and BTW see my note above about the trampoline 18:32 OldCoder Are they in Europe? 18:32 artur99 who? 18:32 KikaRz RealBadAngel 18:32 KikaRz Send me agian your furnace and water mill recipe 18:33 YuGiOhJCJ Jordach, I got the same error with irrlicht 1.7.3 18:33 Jordach odd, using OpenGL? 18:33 Jordach (or at least, OpenGL version.) 18:33 YuGiOhJCJ sky.cpp:(.text._ZN3irr5scene10ISceneNode11getMaterialEj[irr::scene::ISceneNode::getMaterial(unsigned int)]+0x1): undefined reference to `irr::video::IdentityMaterial' 18:33 KikaRz Use 1.8.1 18:34 YuGiOhJCJ no because 1.8 version can't be used to compile minetest 18:34 YuGiOhJCJ if I do this, I got a lot of errors 18:34 YuGiOhJCJ whereas with 1.7 I have no problem : 100% build 18:35 YuGiOhJCJ just an error at the end 18:35 artur99 when will exist cars, boats and roads? Something like road mod 18:36 KikaRz Welcome back sfan 18:37 YuGiOhJCJ do you see why I got this error? 18:40 artur99 europe server isnt working again 18:42 artur99 i cant play on this server... Yesterday i tried at 6 different hours, and i couldnt connect 18:43 artur99 i think ill quit this game forever... 18:43 ruskie enjoy your forever 18:43 artur99 :) 18:45 artur99 i said i think, i didint say that i will quit... 18:46 KikaRz NOOOOOOOOOOOOO 18:46 KikaRz artur, do not do that 18:46 KikaRz we are united. 18:47 KikaRz we are 60 % of the game! 18:47 KikaRz 40% is celeron 18:47 KikaRz 60 = coders and users 18:48 artur99 but how to be an user if i cant play the game? 18:48 KikaRz you can play in singleplayer and in multiplayer 18:48 KikaRz you got A LOT OF SERVERS 18:48 ruskie so connect to some others 18:49 artur99 yes, but i dont want to play singleplayer... 18:49 artur99 where can i find a list? 18:50 NakedFury try minetest.org 30000 to 30015 18:50 artur99 ok 18:50 ruskie http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/#SECTION02 <-- there's of them here 18:51 ruskie and on the forums there's a section of minecraft servers as well 18:51 artur99 minetest.org is working? 18:51 OldCoder artur99, Yes 18:51 OldCoder artur99, That is my site 18:52 OldCoder artur99, Europe has been up 18:52 OldCoder There may be a problem with Romania Internet 18:52 artur99 how much time is europe up? 18:52 ruskie yeah europe was up earlire today... I connected there 18:52 artur99 is a problem with my internet connection 18:52 ruskie a couple of hours ago 18:53 artur99 a couple oh hours= all the day? 18:53 OldCoder artur99, I think almost all the time recently except for a little while yesterday 18:53 OldCoder There was an outage 18:53 OldCoder A day or two back with the host 18:53 OldCoder But that was only an hour or two 19:00 artur99 how much players are playing on minetest.org? 19:00 artur99 30000 19:00 KikaRz im not. 19:01 artur99 who is? 19:03 artur99 is eny server with animals? 19:04 artur99 aaa 19:04 artur99 no, in general... 19:05 artur99 why i cant dig? 19:05 ruskie because usually one needs to ask for interact permissions on servers one is playing on 19:05 ruskie it's an antigriefing meassure 19:05 artur99 aaa 19:06 artur99 and who can i ask for this? 19:06 OldCoder For which servers? 19:06 artur99 minetest.org 30000 19:06 NakedFury I am in server 30000 19:07 NakedFury testing worledit and checking the -1000 level bug 19:07 artur99 and who can give me the interact permision 19:07 artur99 ? 19:08 NakedFury I can I guess, need to check the command 19:08 KikaRz /grant artur99 interact 19:08 OldCoder NakedFury, I can increase that to -1100 19:09 NakedFury ok artur99 got interact 19:09 OldCoder artur99, Join whatever worlds you wish. If I stop the servers temporary I can enable your copies en masse 19:09 artur99 thanks 19:09 NakedFury did you finally find what the problem was OldCoder?? 19:09 OldCoder Yes 19:09 OldCoder NakedFury, glomie protector 19:09 OldCoder Has hard coded limit. I can increase it. 19:09 NakedFury ohh 19:10 OldCoder We tested this on 30004 and no problems observed yet 19:10 artur99 waw... this server is so nice... 19:10 OldCoder Waw? 19:10 artur99 naked, can u give permision to my brother too? 19:11 ruskie he's still learning english ;) 19:11 NakedFury name? 19:11 artur99 yes, waw ;) 19:11 artur99 iulyus01 19:11 OldCoder Julius? 19:11 OldCoder Both of you have fun 19:11 NakedFury ok gave it to that iulyus01 user 19:12 artur99 thanks... 19:12 artur99 yes! julius, why? 19:12 OldCoder Curious about name 19:12 OldCoder No big deal 19:13 artur99 aaa 19:13 NakedFury just saw iulyus01 in my stairs to underground project 19:15 mito551 hello 19:17 NakedFury what is the link to check minetest commands? 19:20 Jordach ./privs 19:20 NakedFury is that to check what the commands are? 19:21 ruskie maybe /help ? 19:21 Jordach Fury, explain a little more 19:21 NakedFury there was a site where I could see all the default commands for the game 19:22 NakedFury for teleport, grant, giveme, etc 19:29 VanessaE hi all 19:29 * VanessaE peeks in for a few 19:30 OldCoder I need to reboot my VPS 19:30 OldCoder All the worlds will be down for 5 minutes 19:30 NakedFury ok 19:30 babyface1031 ok 19:30 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi 19:31 KikaRz Vanessa, Hi E. 19:31 KikaRz x 19:31 KikaRz Xd 19:31 Jordach hey VanessaE 19:31 VanessaE hi hi 19:31 Jordach Taoki - I've been practicing my skinning techniques 19:32 Jordach VanessaE - earlier we had 91 users in #minetest 19:33 NakedFury we need 91 users on a server too 19:34 artur99 what is with minetest.org server? 19:34 artur99 i cant connect 19:34 VanessaE nice 19:34 OldCoder artur99, I am updating it 19:35 Jordach artur99 - fixing bugs 19:35 OldCoder Worlds should be back up 19:35 OldCoder I am working on the website though 19:36 artur99 when will can i paly? 19:36 OldCoder Now 19:36 OldCoder Right now 19:36 artur99 what updates? 19:36 OldCoder Website work 19:36 artur99 aaa 19:36 NakedFury another thing server owners need: a way to make server messages 19:37 artur99 can i find anywhere a list with all crafting elements? 19:37 NakedFury the forums 19:37 NakedFury but they are down I think 19:37 OldCoder We do need redundancy for that 19:38 artur99 all teh crafting in a single page... 19:38 artur99 *the 19:39 Jordach and the google cache dont last forever 19:39 KikaRz RealBadAngel 19:39 VanessaE hm... forums are down? 19:39 KikaRz Yes 19:39 OldCoder Again yes 19:39 VanessaE :( 19:39 KikaRz since 3 AM (GMT) 19:39 VanessaE damn 19:40 VanessaE celeron55: *ping* 19:40 NakedFury artur having problems? 19:40 artur99 yes 19:40 artur99 some exceptions: 19:40 NakedFury exit the game then launch it again 19:40 artur99 i tried 4 tumes 19:40 artur99 *times 19:41 ruskie what we need is a git repo with all the crafting recipes and their origin that anyone can then process into a site quickly 19:41 artur99 yes 19:42 artur99 id really like something like this... 19:42 Penguin Hi 19:43 VanessaE ruskie: there used to be such a thing. Cornernote made it. 19:43 VanessaE which of course means it's gone now. 19:43 NakedFury a pdf file made very clean and profesional showing all mods used by OldCoder or the server. each mod has a section showing explanations and recipes 19:43 ruskie VanessaE, it's still there 19:43 artur99 yes, but itll be niceer with images 19:43 ruskie VanessaE, iirc he did put all of his mods back 19:43 Penguin coder 19:43 OldCoder I thought he put it back 19:43 OldCoder Penguin, ? 19:43 VanessaE wow, so he did 19:43 ruskie VanessaE, still requires the server admin to run it 19:44 Penguin Hi Why Did Server Shut Down 19:44 ruskie Penguin, you need to elaborate 19:44 artur99 adn where can i downlaod that pdf 19:44 artur99 ? 19:44 ruskie john_minetest, having it in git means it's easy to distribute 19:44 Penguin I Was AFK 19:44 NakedFury pdf doesnt exist 19:44 artur99 aaa 19:45 Jordach bbl in 15 mins 19:46 ruskie john_minetest, git supports any file you throw in 19:46 ruskie john_minetest, it would just be the repo 19:46 VanessaE I've used github before to host screenshots of mods and such 19:46 ruskie you would still run it through a tool to generate a site with it all 19:47 KikaRz using craft book recipe 19:47 KikaRz that mod 19:47 KikaRz yep 19:47 ruskie but with git you would a) limit update privs to those that actually do mods b) make it easily distributable 19:47 KikaRz RealBadAngel, wake up please and read query. 19:54 marktraceur Question for y'all: Can you access http://gitlab.marktraceur.info/mt_gears or does it give you a login page? 19:54 artur99 apears a loginpage to me 19:54 marktraceur Damn. 19:55 artur99 damn? 19:55 marktraceur Apparently gitlab won't cooperate, so I'll have to either use my old gitweb site or add the projects to gitorious. 19:55 artur99 i have no account.... 19:55 KikaRz me too 19:58 artur99 can i caraft a tnt? 19:59 VanessaE "caraft a tnt" -- what is that, pouring gunpowder into a glass vessel before pouring it into a bomb? :-) 20:02 artur99 i saw tnt in minecraft... i was just asking:) 20:02 KikaRz in technic mod , how i make a grinder? 20:02 NakedFury cant say now, havent memorized the blocks 20:03 marktraceur Things I learned today: HTTP clone for my git hosting has *never* worked. Sadness. 20:03 artur99 grinder: 20:03 artur99 d stone dstone dstone 20:04 artur99 dstone dyamond dstone 20:04 artur99 stone cooper ing stone 20:04 artur99 ing=ingout; dstone=desert stone 20:04 marktraceur It's like they're speaking another language.... 20:05 marktraceur artur99: Protip, smaller variable names 20:05 artur99 who 20:05 marktraceur ds ds ds\nds di ds\ns c s 20:06 artur99 ns? 20:06 marktraceur artur99: You read the escape character incorrectly, \n means "line break" 20:06 VanessaE dyamond? cooper? *facepalm* 20:06 artur99 aaa 20:06 VanessaE ingout? *sigh* 20:06 marktraceur VanessaE: These whippersnappers ain't never seen rocks, what do you expect? 20:07 Jordach marktraceur - i know my igneous from my metamorphic 20:07 VanessaE protip: use an IRC client with a built-in spell checker. Those little red squiggly lines means the word is spelled wrong. 20:07 * marktraceur may not have the right to use the word "whippersnapper" by his age, but his mindset win shim that 20:07 Jordach like xchat 20:07 marktraceur wins him* 20:09 marktraceur artur99: Maybe even better, instead of relying on the spellcheck, turn it off in the editor and write an XChat plugin that will say in-channel "I MISSPELLED SOMETHING, I AM HUMILIATED" every time you make a mistake 20:09 marktraceur Maybe capped on ~ once per five minutes. 20:10 VanessaE lol 20:10 marktraceur That'll learn ya. 20:10 Jordach marktraceur - i know you find it hard to do this non-nerds (that can successfully print "Hello World" in BASIC) 20:11 artur99 a mistake in writing? 20:11 * marktraceur lost that sentence's meaning about halfway through, Jordach 20:11 marktraceur artur99: Yes, what we've been talking about 20:11 ruskie VanessaE, he's not a native speaker, he's young and he's still learning english 20:11 VanessaE no excuses. 20:11 ruskie so instead of facepalming it can help to correct 20:11 VanessaE spelling ~= grammar. 20:11 artur99 im 13, romanian 20:12 artur99 so... :D 20:12 marktraceur OK, let's do that then 20:12 marktraceur artur99: 'diamond', 'copper', 'ingot' 20:12 marktraceur artur99: And feel free to ask if you're not sure :) 20:12 thexyz gitlab is only for private repos 20:12 thexyz it doesn't support public ones 20:13 marktraceur thexyz: Thanks, that helps. I mean, it would have been helpful for me to have figured that out last night, but meh 20:14 thexyz well, at least you now know how to set it up 20:14 marktraceur Going through repo creation in gitorious now :) 20:15 Kacey hello 20:16 artur99 go to sleep... bye! 20:17 PilzAdam thexyz, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/280#issuecomment-10354095 <- this patch causes that the sapling is not replaced 20:17 PilzAdam can you fix it? 20:18 Kacey hey adam 20:18 marktraceur PilzAdam: Hey, I wound up putting rubber in its own repo last night, see https://gitorious.org/marktraceur-minetest-mods/rubber if you're interested. 20:19 marktraceur (and if you have thoughts on it, I'm welcoming to feedback! :)) 20:19 Kacey is there a crafting recipe for trampolines? 20:20 marktraceur Kacey: You should make it! 20:20 Kacey but is there? 20:20 Kacey god im no good with writing code... 20:20 VanessaE wish I could look it up but the forums are still dead. 20:20 PilzAdam marktraceur, I will maybe remove all the trees from farming 20:21 PilzAdam so its good that you seperated it to its own mod 20:21 VanessaE PilzAdam, thexyz: regarding trees, is there something that can be done to integrate the functions of bas080's jungletrees mod back into the C++ mapgen so we can have our jungles back? as a separate mod it's beautiful but dog slow 20:21 thexyz PilzAdam: content_t c =vmanip.getNodeNoExNoEmerge(p1).getContent(); if(c == CONTENT_AIR || c == CONTENT_SAPLING) 20:21 thexyz something like this 20:22 celeron55 ....by the way, has somebody seem bookwar? 20:22 celeron55 the minetest.net domain is going to expire 2012-12-05 20:22 celeron55 seen* 20:22 VanessaE celeron55: never seen it. re: expired domain, let's make sure we keep it :-) 20:23 celeron55 ehm 20:23 Jordach or we could just wait until its up for sale again 20:23 Jordach then c55 has full power over the domain# 20:23 celeron55 bookwar is the person who has registered it 20:23 VanessaE hah! didn't realize :-) 20:23 Jordach why not minetest.tk or minetest.co.cc 20:24 Penguin Hi All 20:24 VanessaE didn't I read somewhere that the .co.cc domain was dead 20:24 VanessaE ? 20:24 VanessaE ni Penguin 20:24 Jordach VanessaE - nope. 20:24 thexyz VanessaE: not dead but not indexed by google or something like this 20:24 VanessaE http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/11/15/2215256/free-registrar-cocc-goes-the-way-of-the-dodo 20:24 VanessaE yes, I did read it. 20:25 Jordach well then, .tk works 20:25 PilzAdam gtg; bye 20:25 thexyz celeron55: i'll try to contact her 20:26 hmmmm ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 20:26 VanessaE hmmmm: almost. the eyebrows need shifted over :-) 20:26 Penguin (^ټ^) 20:26 Jordach sorry, ascii over here 20:27 VanessaE Penguin: hah, looks like pedobear :-) 20:27 Penguin hehe 20:28 celeron55 thexyz: she did mention that there should be enough money on the account for it to automatically renew, but as it's starting to be two weeks to the expiration date and i don't see any clues of it doing that, i'm somewhat worried; and yes, do try 20:28 celeron55 (i haven't yet) 20:28 Penguin ┌П┐ (•͡_ •͡. ┌П┐ 20:29 Penguin ╋╋ム╋╋ム20:30 celeron55 in related news, the site works just fine at http://5.9.130.165/minetest/ (forum doesn't, because it tries to use the static address which fails), but the apache is having the weirdest configuration problem i have ever seen 20:30 thexyz use nginx then 20:30 celeron55 nothing changed, but yet it just won't do what it's configured to anymore 20:30 celeron55 (or, well, something did change, but it shouldn't affect it at all) 20:31 Penguin Do We Have Back Up Site? 20:31 VanessaE celeron55: sounds like the problems I had with ISC dhcpd a while back. What worked before suddenly didn't anymore, nor did anyone else's examples. Took forever before I Was able to use it again. 20:32 celeron55 i mean, the configuration for /minetest to show up the site is in the *same file* as the one that should do the same for (www.)minetest.net 20:32 VanessaE ah 20:32 celeron55 this doesn't make any sense 20:33 VanessaE you do realize when you spot the error you're going to have the biggest facepalm ever, because it'll end up being something tiny and obscure :-) 20:34 celeron55 now i threw in a2dissite minetest, which disabled the file which contains both, and http://5.9.130.165/minetest/ went down 20:35 celeron55 yet minetest.net does nothing 20:35 celeron55 (after doing the reverse of that) 20:36 VanessaE in the old days, I'd start blaming a corrupted drive or filesystem, but I suppose that's not the case here. 20:36 VanessaE (and it's been over 10 years since I last looked at apache, so I'm of no help there either :-) ) 20:36 celeron55 pretty much not possible 20:37 KikaRz MuadTralk, are you there? 20:38 KikaRz Welcome Doc22, 20:38 Doc22 hey kika 20:38 Doc22 thanks 20:38 KikaRz For circunstancial technical problems, the Minetest.net is offline. (just the forum i think) 20:38 Doc22 hmmmm 20:38 VanessaE we know. 20:39 KikaRz Not you 20:39 KikaRz Doc22 20:39 VanessaE oh right 20:39 * VanessaE <-- stupid :D 20:39 Doc22 oh,,, 20:39 Doc22 oh... 20:39 Doc22 lol 20:39 marktraceur Does someone have +t or ops to change the topic to reflect our current technical issues? OldCoder? 20:40 Doc22 haha finally decided to auth 20:40 marktraceur Or VanessaE? :) 20:40 VanessaE Please be patient with questions; people may not be around | Main site: http://minetest.net (currently down due to a technical issue) | Development channel: #minetest-delta 20:40 VanessaE d'ohj 20:41 VanessaE note to self: try prefixing it with the appropriate command. 20:41 Doc22 lol 20:41 marktraceur VanessaE: Thanks! 20:41 Doc22 that usually works better 20:41 Doc22 ;D 20:41 OldCoder Hey 20:41 OldCoder marktraceur, Sure 20:41 KikaRz what? 20:41 OldCoder What do you wish 20:42 marktraceur OldCoder: It's done already, sorry for the ping 20:42 VanessaE celeron55: interestingly, c55.me also seems to be down 20:42 OldCoder Hmm 20:42 KikaRz Where are you MuadTralk ? 20:42 KikaRz Muadtralk * 20:43 KikaRz he left the server- .- 20:44 KikaRz He left the MINETEST server 20:44 KikaRz not the IRC 20:44 KikaRz -.- 20:45 KikaRz Muadtralk 20:45 * VanessaE pokes at MuadTralk for signs of life 20:46 KikaRz why you left server? 20:46 MuadTralk hmmm? 20:46 Doc22 hey i am making some code to generate a building' 20:46 Doc22 set building 20:46 Doc22 for hunger games 20:46 Doc22 does someone want to design some buildings and send me detailed screenshots? 20:46 Doc22 if they look good I will add them into my mod 20:46 Doc22 theme: 20:47 Doc22 hunger games spawn' 20:47 Doc22 or random ruins 20:47 Doc22 any takers? 20:47 MuadTralk hmmmm 20:47 MuadTralk possibly 20:47 hmmmm hmmmmm 20:47 Doc22 all I want are screenshots 20:48 Doc22 that show me how to build it in code 20:48 Doc22 and where each block is 20:48 VanessaE we need a blueprint generator for minetest 20:48 Doc22 i can do the rest 20:48 Doc22 yes that would be good 20:48 VanessaE something that'll take a worldedit file and extract it into a layered blueprint. 20:48 Doc22 yeah and ill help build a parser 20:48 VanessaE (writing the blueprint out as just so many png files or something) 20:48 Doc22 ok 20:49 Doc22 the problem with png 20:49 Doc22 is that there are a ton of blocks 20:49 Doc22 so each block would have to have an rgb value 20:49 Doc22 that would cause major compatibility 20:49 Doc22 issues 20:49 VanessaE suggested output: one block = a 3x3 pixel group. Color, with a legend at the bottom of each image, indicates what block goes where. 20:50 Doc22 hmmmm 20:50 hmmmm yes..? 20:50 Doc22 lol 20:50 Doc22 not ou 20:50 Doc22 u 20:50 Doc22 just saying hmmmmmmm 20:50 hmmmm then why do you keep highlighting me? 20:50 VanessaE think of the output from minetestmapper, only larger. 20:50 VanessaE hmmmm: for crying out loud, pick a real nickname already. 20:50 Doc22 ii was thinking an array file 20:50 Doc22 that stores an array 20:50 VanessaE Doc22: no. flat images are human readable. 20:50 Doc22 and each object in the array 20:50 Doc22 well i mean for code readable but ok 20:50 VanessaE and can still be parsed by a program if it's really necessary 20:51 hmmmm how are you going to store 256 node definitions in a 3x3 pixel group 20:51 Doc22 umm 20:51 Doc22 3x3 for each block 20:51 hmmmm yea 20:51 VanessaE hmmmm: the color of the group = the block type to be placed there. 20:51 hmmmm each block is 16x16 nodes 20:51 VanessaE png can have 16 million colors 20:51 Doc22 not chunk 20:51 VanessaE nonononono 20:51 Doc22 block 20:51 VanessaE block as in node 20:51 Doc22 u are thinking of chunk 20:51 VanessaE not block as in mapblock. 20:51 hmmmm no, a chunk is a collection of blocks 20:51 Penguin hi doc 20:51 Doc22 hi 20:51 Doc22 penguin 20:52 VanessaE one 3x3 pixel group = one node. 20:52 Doc22 can you design some things for me 20:52 hmmmm why 3x3? 20:52 Penguin me ? 20:52 Doc22 1: hunger games spawn 20:52 Doc22 yes 20:52 Doc22 2: random ruins 20:52 Doc22 and send me the screenies 20:52 VanessaE perhaps with a black dot in one of the 12, 3, 6 or 9 o-clock positions to indicate facedir for the block. 20:52 Doc22 so i can build it into the code 20:52 VanessaE s/block/node/ 20:52 hmmmm that makes sense 20:52 Doc22 thats a good idea 20:52 Doc22 but what about up and down 20:53 VanessaE up and down don't have any kind of facedir. 20:53 Doc22 oh ok 20:53 hmmmm there are 6 positions and 9 pixels to choose from 20:53 VanessaE oh wait 20:53 VanessaE you mean like with a signlike node? 20:53 VanessaE um.. 20:53 VanessaE a black dot in the center or in one corner, respectively? 20:53 Penguin I am not on server its late now tied. tell tanker not to take ore form chests and not to put water mills down please doc22 20:53 Doc22 how about the top-corner pixels are for up and down 20:53 Doc22 oj penguin 20:53 Doc22 ok 20:54 Doc22 hes playing a different game 20:54 VanessaE Doc22: that might work. 20:54 Doc22 anyway 20:54 Doc22 then you have 3 pixels for other data 20:54 Doc22 so 256^3 20:54 Doc22 is how many nodes you can have 20:54 celeron55 WTF 20:54 Doc22 this might fill up 20:54 Doc22 what 20:55 hmmmm imagine if BS were changed to 256 :D 20:55 Doc22 lol 20:55 Penguin doc tanker showed me how to make duplicator. it gives 3x2 every flash of blinkey plant 20:55 Penguin and its automatic 20:55 Doc22 ok 20:55 Penguin :) 20:56 KikaRz MuadTralk, server started lagging why? 20:56 VanessaE so N E S W U D 20:56 VanessaE oXo ooo ooo ooo XoX ooo 20:56 VanessaE ooo ooX ooo Xoo ooo ooo 20:56 VanessaE ooo ooo oXo ooo ooo XoX 20:56 VanessaE o = color indicating node to place, X = black dot indicating facedir 20:56 KikaRz MuadTralk, im frozen, i cant move 20:56 VanessaE Doc22, hmmmm: there, how abotu that? 20:56 Doc22 gppd 20:56 Doc22 good 20:56 hmmmm you could have a single color in the center that represents facedir 20:56 Doc22 yeah that would work 20:57 hmmmm you have 0xFFFFFF possible combinations to work with in one pixel; come on, get creative 20:57 Penguin doc check it out later 20:57 VanessaE possible yes, but it needs to be readable at a glance I think 20:57 Doc22 i have to go 20:57 hmmmm the meaning of human readable is lost on me 20:58 hmmmm i'm a big fan of binary file formats because of their raw efficiency 20:58 VanessaE one or two black pixels might be easier to spot than some other color. 20:58 VanessaE I mean human readable as in a person loads one of these images into gthumb or some other image viewer, looks at it, and uses what they see to build a house or whatever on a server that doesn't have any facilities for importing the save file directly. 20:59 VanessaE sorta like those calculators/diagrams people provide online for making spheres. 20:59 celeron55 it turns out c55.me has somehow managed to dynamically update the ip of minetest.net and a variety of other domains served at freedns.afraid.org to it's own ip, which currently is the ip of my MOBILE PHONE that tethers past broken adsl 20:59 celeron55 now, i haven't yet managed to find out how it has done that 20:59 VanessaE wow 21:00 hmmmm hahaha. 21:00 Jordach celeron55 trololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol 21:00 celeron55 it has some scripts set up to update the ip, but NOT for minetest.net or any others of those, and it has worked before 21:00 VanessaE talk about a weird configuration problem all right. 21:02 FreeFull XD 21:04 VanessaE see? if I hadn't mentioned c55.me you'd be scratching twice as much of your head as now.. sometimes talking does help ;-) 21:05 Penguin some one make a 3x3 texture of a bow and 3x2 texture of an arrow please 21:05 iqualfragile celeron55: there is a setting called cascading updates or sth, you might want to check tose 21:06 iqualfragile s/tose/that 21:06 celeron55 i just set that one off 21:06 celeron55 i think i might know what caused it 21:07 Penguin ?please 21:07 VanessaE Penguin: why so low-resolution? 21:08 celeron55 it had test.mine.bz pointed to the 5.9.130.165 server 21:08 VanessaE old domain? 21:08 celeron55 and c55.me updated that to itself 21:08 Penguin idk can u do it and what every res then dm 21:08 Penguin don't mind 21:08 Kacey hello 21:08 celeron55 and freedns.afraid.org thought, due to what iqualfragile said, that yeah allright, i'll just update all of these 5.9.130.165 domains to it 21:09 VanessaE celeron55: yay! it works now :-) 21:09 celeron55 which means minetest.net 21:09 Penguin yay fourm page back 21:09 Kacey hey would you look at that celeron55 said something on irc 21:10 celeron55 john_minetest: it is but don't use it; mine.bz is not in our control 21:10 Penguin @VenessaE can you 21:11 Kacey hey penguin you should get on the server 21:11 VanessaE Penguin: no. I don't work with textures at that resolution. way too low. 21:11 Penguin what do you work at 21:11 Penguin kacey why 21:11 VanessaE Penguin: photorealistic, 512px. 21:11 iqualfragile Penguin: just grab yourself some gimp and pixel it yourself 21:12 VanessaE or pseudo-realistic, 16px for my mods. 21:12 Kacey because i am all alone... 21:12 Penguin that's good can u do it at that res then 21:12 Penguin I carnt kacey 21:12 MuadTralk 3 pixels? 21:12 MuadTralk damn thats small 21:12 KikaRz o.o 21:12 Kacey O.o 3 pixels... 21:13 Penguin I failed Shhhhh 21:13 iqualfragile those anti-bot-questions are getting quite anoying, dont they? 21:13 KikaRz ALERT: PEOPLE WITH HAMACHI - 21:13 Penguin ? 21:13 MuadTralk ? 21:13 MuadTralk as long as your ip doesnt change 21:13 KikaRz Tomorrow, all people that got problems with minetest.net, will be free to enter! 21:13 VanessaE people with hamachi: screw hamachi, learn port-forwarding and firewalling instead :-) 21:13 KikaRz A new Update for hamachi that corrects the bug will come! 21:14 KikaRz VanessaE, die. 21:14 MuadTralk some routers dont allow port forwarding 21:14 VanessaE hamachi is for those who don't know what they're doing. 21:14 Penguin its up now -_- 21:14 Kacey lol yes vanessaE yes 21:14 VanessaE (no offense) 21:14 MuadTralk as well as some ISP's 21:14 Kacey i use it for private networks 21:14 KikaRz VanessaE, you don't know what are you doing 21:15 KikaRz but what you're really doing, is offending people 21:15 Penguin he nows more than you tit bye KikaRz 21:15 NakedFury my spiral stairs now reach y -1035 21:16 KikaRz he? 21:16 KikaRz Oh , vanessa changed her sex... 21:16 VanessaE sorry if that offends you, but 25 years worth of computing experience says that such tools should not be needed at all and that people need to learn how to set up their systems properly to begin with, and that ISPs can and will cancel your account for running a server in the first place. 21:16 KikaRz ok. 21:16 KikaRz Vanessa, Some Routers don't allow us to port forwarding 21:16 KikaRz like SMC 21:16 MuadTralk no reason to get testy people 21:16 KikaRz and some thomsons 21:16 KikaRz -.- 21:16 MuadTralk i say the subject gets dropped 21:16 VanessaE so yeah, something like hamachi should not be needed. run a proper server attached to the rest of the internet (instead of on your personal PC) or don't run one at all. 21:17 KikaRz Yea it shoul 21:17 KikaRz for private servers 21:17 VanessaE *sigh* 21:17 MuadTralk remobo anyone? 21:18 MuadTralk I remember the plethora of minetest servers that ran through it 21:18 MuadTralk now there are none 21:18 MuadTralk and my client i got to connect to them is sitting collecting virtual dust :P 21:18 ruskie VanessaE, sorry but ISPs sell internet access which means servers are a valid part of that thing... if they want to terminate due to that then they shouldn't sell internet access but should sell facebook, youtube and other access 21:19 VanessaE because running a server on your personal PC just invites hackers and is begging for your ISP to shut your connection off. 21:19 KikaRz Haha, that's because you're a hacker 21:19 VanessaE ruskie: ISPs usually have clauses in their service agreement that says you can't run a server. 21:19 VanessaE KikaRz: um, no. 21:19 ruskie VanessaE, yes so? a lot of EULAs have crap as well 21:20 ruskie and yes if my ISP wanted to try to cut me off for that I'd go to court over that 21:20 VanessaE ruskie: since no one's managed to shut that sort of crap down, it persists. 21:20 ruskie I run SMTP, HTTP, FTP, Jabber, HTTPS and a lot of other servers on my systems 21:20 VanessaE take it to court and your case will get thrown out on one point alone: the ISP is a private company and is free to do anything they want within the current laws, which don't allow for such things. 21:21 ruskie VanessaE, not if they sell me one thing and supply another 21:21 VanessaE john_minetest: lol 21:21 VanessaE ruskie: so far, even that much has gone unchallenged :-/ 21:21 ruskie they state they sell "internet" access look it up what that means... interconnected networks that rely on server-client communications 21:21 KikaRz omg 21:21 VanessaE so until someone challenges the ISPs for such practices and wins, the ToS is against you. 21:22 ruskie hell even browsing and other things cause server and client interconnections sometimes in revers 21:22 ruskie VanessaE, well I'm glad I'm not in the USA so maybe that's helping 21:22 MuadTralk so anyone know when gameboom rebuilds their teleportation mainframe? 21:22 VanessaE that said, most of the time it isn't in the ISP's interest to cut you off, since that'll cost them money and perhaps future customers... but then if you eat a ton of bandwidth they'll kick your ass, so go figure :-) 21:23 iqualfragile celeron55: have you thought about adding soft dependencies? so mods can get other mods to load first and then add some functionality to them? 21:23 ruskie VanessaE, not around here 21:23 ruskie but I guess it helps they aren't oversubscribing 21:23 VanessaE ruskie: oh yeah, that probably helps, though I figure most ISPs around the world act that way anymore 21:23 VanessaE iqualfragile: +1000 21:23 ruskie VanessaE, I think only in high-population, crap deployment countries 21:23 VanessaE ruskie: like the USA? ;) 21:23 ruskie 2 mil population here for the entire country 21:23 ruskie and we're about the size of the NY greater metro area 21:24 MuadTralk hello question relating to minetest not answered instead theres this rather offtopic conversation 21:24 ruskie MuadTralk, I would assume someone would respond if they knew 21:24 VanessaE celeron55: iqualfragile's idea is a good one actually. 21:24 iqualfragile VanessaE: thats horrible! where do you live? you cant run servers on your private pcs? 21:24 VanessaE iqualfragile: the US. 21:25 ruskie VanessaE, but yeah I saw that no servers thing in their small print... frankly they haven't done anything about it and the ISP is well aware I run them(because I bug techsupport about crap connections, routing and so on often enough) 21:25 iqualfragile well, i did not want to go there anyways 21:25 * MuadTralk breaks several miles of firewire 21:25 VanessaE iqualfragile: as for the soft dependency, what I do is check for the presence of a function or of some file within the mod I want to use, and if present some function becomes available. 21:25 VanessaE but that's not reliable of course. 21:25 ruskie also we don't have a download/upload limit so we pay for speed only 21:26 ruskie anyway I'm off to bed 21:26 ruskie work and stuff in the morning 21:26 VanessaE ruskie: right, like I said it probably isn't in their best interest to cut you off - they need your money :-) 21:26 iqualfragile same here (up/down) 21:26 iqualfragile but we have much smaller upload-bandwidth 21:26 iqualfragile but no ports are blocked 21:26 ruskie VanessaE, well they seem to actually be responsive on the tech part as well... I've traced and reported a denial of service from someone on their network and they sorted it out 21:26 iqualfragile and i can use it for whatever purposes 21:27 ruskie yeah no ports blocked here as well 21:27 VanessaE iqualfragile: now that said, in the US if you wanna pay for a "business" connection, then you get a bunch of IP's and email addresses and you can run all the services you want... but you pay 50 to 100% more than the equivalent "residential" connection. 21:27 ruskie in or out 21:27 iqualfragile i can be contackted on all ports 21:27 ruskie I pay 65eur/month for cable tv, voip and 28/2.5MBit connection 21:27 iqualfragile so none are blokced 21:28 iqualfragile vanessae: what do you pay for your connection? 21:28 VanessaE ruskie: that would be about 80 euros equivalent here for the same combination of services. 21:28 iqualfragile but there is one good point about the us: google lately installed some fiber-connections 21:29 ruskie and this is a cable connection which can hit issues if to many people are connected to the same wire... but no such thing here 21:29 iqualfragile symetrical 21:29 VanessaE iqualfragile: USD $42/mo, but it will go up to around UDA $55 in several months from now (I'm still in a lower-rate contact, but my connection got upgraded when we moved) 21:29 iqualfragile & freaking highspeed 21:29 VanessaE s/UDA/USD/ 21:29 VanessaE (was 15Mbps/768kbps, now it's 30Mbps/3Mbps) 21:29 ruskie iqualfragile, only ftth deployments here are from a) monopolistic ~state telco b) a rather failing church funded business 21:29 ruskie I don't want either of them 21:29 iqualfragile http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Google-Fiber-Erste-Haushalte-in-Kansas-City-angeschlossen-1749581.html?view=zoom;zoom=1 21:29 ruskie google even less so 21:30 ruskie I'm hoping the cableco will eventuall start hooking up ftth on the last mile 21:30 MuadTralk i get internet from the phone company :D 21:30 iqualfragile ruskie: where are you from? 21:30 ruskie slovenia 21:30 iqualfragile we can choose from about 5 isps here 21:30 ruskie they have more or less the whole infrastructure in a hybrid coax+fiber setup so sholudn't be to hard 21:31 ruskie iqualfragile, hmm... 3 that I know that have their own infrastructure 21:31 ruskie the fourth is a virtual one 21:31 iqualfragile take a look at my link, even if you cant read german 21:31 ruskie and there might be some other virtual ones 21:31 ruskie I'm familiar with the google fiber thing 21:31 ruskie I'm not a fan of google at all 21:31 ruskie infact the opposite would be more true 21:31 iqualfragile me neither 21:31 iqualfragile but that bandwidth is great 21:32 ruskie but their presence might get some competition 21:32 ruskie until things start to balance out 21:32 VanessaE shit, google, for all their faults, could out-compete any large ISP that wants to take them on. 21:32 VanessaE I don't know whether to root for them or be worried! 21:32 ruskie be worried 21:32 ruskie very very worried 21:32 ruskie think phrom but on every level not just http 21:33 VanessaE phrom? 21:33 ruskie see: uk bt phrom 21:33 ruskie failed idea of ads everywhere you surf 21:33 VanessaE oh phorm you mean. 21:33 ruskie ahh yeah 21:34 ruskie anyway reall off to bed... even tough this is interesting 21:34 VanessaE sleep is overrated :-) 21:34 Kacey @OldCoder i cannot connect to server... 21:34 iqualfragile you dont need to sleep 21:34 ruskie I learned ~13 years ago that it isn't 21:34 ruskie and that I enjoy sleeping 21:35 ruskie I'll be 30 in january ;) 21:35 iqualfragile there is some new drug with wich you can just stay awake 21:35 OldCoder Kacey, which server? 21:35 Kacey 30004 21:35 VanessaE ruskie: you're just a child :-) 21:35 OldCoder Checking 21:35 * VanessaE <- 38 21:35 iqualfragile and you stay concentrated 21:35 OldCoder 38? 21:35 OldCoder Babe in the woods 21:35 VanessaE of course both of us look young compared to OldCoder ;-) 21:35 OldCoder Heh 21:35 Kacey i keep getting an access violation 21:35 iqualfragile how old is he/you? 21:36 OldCoder Kacey, you timed out 21:36 * Kacey isnt going to say his age 21:36 OldCoder Server is running 21:36 VanessaE "old enough to know your ass is in a sling.": 21:36 iqualfragile i meant oldcoder 21:36 Kacey ooh well 3 times in a row 21:36 OldCoder Kacey, sorry 21:36 OldCoder iqualfragile, 50s 21:36 iqualfragile ok 21:36 Kacey im a baby compared to all of you 21:36 OldCoder Wait 21:36 NakedFury 25 21:37 OldCoder Is somebody running a digger machine on 30004 again? 21:37 Kacey digger? 21:37 OldCoder I don't know what they're called 21:37 VanessaE so KikaRz should probably re-evaluate his previous comments :-) 21:37 OldCoder But they have a tendency to break the world 21:37 Kacey ooh a nodebraker ya im duplicating 21:37 OldCoder Her comments 21:37 OldCoder Is it safe? 21:37 OldCoder And Kacey you sound 14 21:37 Kacey crap oldcoder figured me out... 21:37 OldCoder RealBadAngel sounds old indeed :-) 21:37 KikaRz im a girl -.- 21:38 VanessaE ok, HER previous comments then. 21:38 KikaRz and im not 13. 21:38 KikaRz im 21 21:38 OldCoder I am here all day but on a brief errand. And yes she is at least college age. 21:38 Kacey and the funny thing is i can outsmart alot of the people that play minetest 21:39 VanessaE KikaRz: and in answer to one such comment, I am a hacker - in the proper sense of the word (someone who codes for fun, to make stuff happen, change the behavior of a program, do something new), not a cracker (someone who illegally breaks into another computer system). 21:39 OldCoder Back in 10 to 30 minutes I hope 21:39 * OldCoder nods 21:39 Kacey i am also a hacker and a cracker but only in school 21:39 VanessaE 21? Just a baby :-) 21:40 KikaRz MuadTralk, im making a small light house 21:40 KikaRz shut up vanessa 21:40 VanessaE (G*d now I feel old..) 21:40 Kacey it isnt illegal if you keep a network running 21:40 iqualfragile im a extremly bored person 21:40 Kacey hey im only 14 sooooo 21:40 Kacey nice 21:40 iqualfragile kacey: in germany you would be strafrechtlich belangbar 21:40 VanessaE Kacey: if you don't own the system you break into, or have permission to break into it, it is illegal trespass, regardless of the reson. 21:42 KikaRz [21:41] == KikaRz was kicked from #minetest by VanessaE [perhaps it is YOU who should shut up.] 21:42 Kacey it isnt breaking in since i am the only one that has any clue what to do 21:42 KikaRz ... 21:42 iqualfragile kacey: its still breaking in 21:42 VanessaE Kacey: it's still illegal entry until you get permission from the server's admin. 21:42 KikaRz ~le vanessa look at me... im a old man... (oops... im not a boy.) that likes giving orders because has got 63 years old. 21:42 iqualfragile and now we do have a clue that you do 21:42 VanessaE eh? 21:43 KikaRz thats too st*pid 21:43 KikaRz (no ofense) 21:43 VanessaE what the hell are you talking about? 21:43 KikaRz [21:41] [21:41] == KikaRz was kicked from #minetest by VanessaE [perhaps it is YOU who should shut up.] 21:43 VanessaE um, yeah? so? 21:43 KikaRz [21:42] ~le vanessa look at me... im a old man... (oops... im not a boy.) that likes giving orders because has got 63 years old. 21:43 iqualfragile well, i do administrate a network 21:43 VanessaE what's this old man shit? 21:43 KikaRz you said: i feel so old 21:43 iqualfragile so i am supposed to atack some of my own machines from time to time 21:44 Kacey well there is no real admin on the school network but the principle noticed that i could do just about anything with a computer so now i monitor the network 21:44 marktraceur KikaRz: You probably should avoid telling ops in the channel to shut up, and generally taunting them is also bad. 21:44 VanessaE bye bye. 21:44 * marktraceur tried to warn her 21:44 iqualfragile i dont get it 21:44 * Kacey is dying from laughter 21:44 iqualfragile why did you ban her? 21:44 Kacey why not ban 21:44 VanessaE it's only temporary. 21:45 iqualfragile but why? 21:45 Kacey freaking internet... 21:45 VanessaE because evidently a single kick isn't enough to say "show a little respect for everyone"/ 21:46 iqualfragile i guess she did not want to be called a baby? 21:46 VanessaE "baby" was just a joke. her comments were far from it. 21:48 iqualfragile well, i guess she did not get it 21:48 VanessaE and I do feel old. She has no fucking clue what my general state of health is or how much I've seen in my life. 21:48 VanessaE but then comes off as a know-it-all whose first comment to me was "die". 21:48 VanessaE um, I don't react too kindly to that. 21:49 iqualfragile well, i did not get that "die" part 21:49 iqualfragile when did that happen? 21:50 iqualfragile ah, there it is 21:50 marktraceur VanessaE: Is there a reason why I can't post in the mod releases forum? Is it restricted? 21:50 VanessaE marktraceur: yeah, you gotta post in Modding General first and then request a move. that's to keep people from posting junk topics there. 21:50 marktraceur john_minetest: Alternatively, you'll never have to buy a toaster 21:50 VanessaE john_minetest: well see, what you need to do is put a few more laptops near it :-) 21:50 VanessaE toast it 21:52 VanessaE haha 21:57 KikaRz VanessaE, I'm sorry for calling you "old", "fat" and telling you to "die". But I got a difficult life and i never control myself, i've learned how to... but i can't include that into my life. 21:58 VanessaE KikaRz: fine. just keep it under control in the future, okay? 22:04 Kacey hello 22:04 VanessaE wb 22:04 harrison if you must incur the wrath of an op at least do something creative like ASCII art 22:04 Kacey lol 22:05 Kacey i have an idea for a device 22:05 harrison hello kitty with a swastika works well 22:05 VanessaE haha 22:06 harrison I made a film yesterday 22:06 harrison it is at spasim.org 22:08 Kacey @OldCoder 22:08 Kacey the server shut down 22:08 Penguin hi 22:08 Kacey hello 22:08 Penguin what u doing on server kacey 22:09 Kacey making aggies a GIANT house 22:09 Kacey but i was using a deployer at the moment 22:09 Penguin cool 22:09 Penguin why 22:09 Kacey just to see if it worked 22:10 Penguin what worker 22:10 Penguin worked 22:10 Penguin ? 22:10 marktraceur Industry modpack up: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52612#p52612 22:10 Kacey an idea i had 22:10 marktraceur VanessaE: ^ 22:10 Kacey @OldCoder... 22:10 Penguin okay kacey 22:11 Penguin need bow and arrow textures 22:11 Kacey i am seeing if i can make a wall with a deployer 22:11 Kacey or a sring of blocks 22:11 Kacey string* 22:11 VanessaE marktraceur: suggest cooking rubber to get rubber sheeting, similar to what I do in homedecor for plastic sheets. use that for the conveyor belt. 22:12 marktraceur VanessaE: I don't suppose that's part of a separate mod, is it? Or did you just add it to homedecor? 22:12 Penguin who is on server 22:12 VanessaE marktraceur: naw, it's something I put inside homedecor early on. 22:12 Kacey me 22:12 marktraceur VanessaE: Is it possible to split it out? s/possible/trivial/ 22:13 Penguin kacey who is on server 22:13 VanessaE well it'd be quite trivial actually 22:13 Kacey only i am on server 22:13 VanessaE gimme a sec. 22:14 marktraceur VanessaE: Ideally, craft items like that *should* be in separate mods. See, e.g., the three mods I have in this modpack that are *only* registering craftitems and their recipes. It makes it easier to use them as dependencies. 22:14 Penguin can any on make textures 22:14 VanessaE marktraceur: here's the relevant code: http://pastebin.com/7XUxYPXR 22:15 VanessaE with one item at the bottom (a flower pot) as an example of how it's used. 22:15 marktraceur Penguin: Do you have an image manipulation program? 22:15 Kacey i can but only really horrible oes 22:15 KikaRz MuadTralk, when you enter the server, look behind my house or near my house. i did a big tower 22:15 Kacey and i am working on my own mod 22:16 marktraceur VanessaE: So this one doesn't use rubber, I'd have to add that myself. K. 22:16 VanessaE right 22:16 * marktraceur will add a rubber_sheet mod 22:17 marktraceur Hm. Strikes me that a bucket-cooking recipe would leave the bucket in the source slot. I should add handling for that in transactor. 22:17 marktraceur Woo! Sunday is no longer free! 22:17 KikaRz Well guys... 22:17 KikaRz tomorrow i must wake up early 22:17 KikaRz AND... 22:17 KikaRz ILL MAKE A MOD! 22:17 KikaRz or better... ill try to make a mod. 22:18 marktraceur KikaRz: Oh boy! What kind of mod? 22:18 KikaRz adding new blocks,new chests etc. 22:19 Penguin can anyone make me bow and arrow textures please 22:20 KikaRz i already got them 22:20 KikaRz just install a mod 22:20 KikaRz that i forgot the name 22:20 KikaRz it gives you the bow and arrow 22:20 KikaRz well 22:20 KikaRz kisses everyone 22:20 KikaRz <3 22:20 Penguin wow I hate you 22:21 VanessaE throwing,. 22:21 VanessaE that's the mod name. 22:21 VanessaE it already has low-resolution bows and arrows 22:24 Penguin what mod shall I make ??!?? 22:24 MuadTralk not only that but there are about 3 different textures for bows and arrows 22:24 VanessaE anything the game doesn't already have 22:26 MuadTralk add animated nyan cat entities flying through the sky 22:27 iqualfragile1 https://www.google.com/mentalplex/ 22:28 Penguin that has no use 22:28 MuadTralk yes it does 22:28 Penguin why 22:28 MuadTralk it would look awesome 22:28 Penguin it will cause lag 22:28 VanessaE MuadTralk: you mean the old nyanland mod? :-) 22:29 MuadTralk YES! 22:29 MuadTralk come on 22:29 MuadTralk cant i make him tihnk its an original idea? 22:29 VanessaE oh sure, and draw the ire of the asshole who owns the original image? :-) 22:29 Penguin haha 22:29 MuadTralk yes! 22:29 OldCoder Flying Cats 22:29 OldCoder Hmm 22:29 OldCoder Rocketing through the sky 22:30 Penguin what about NyanDogs 22:30 OldCoder Leaving rainbox trails 22:30 OldCoder Sure 22:30 OldCoder Or penguins 22:30 Penguin but it shits bricks not rainbows 22:30 VanessaE oh right, that'll make the windows user real happy ;) 22:31 Penguin I will make NyanDog it will shit bricks not rainbows 22:31 Penguin ? 22:32 VanessaE heh 22:32 Penguin anyone make textures ? I carnt make them 22:32 VanessaE you can make them yourself, 22:32 VanessaE it isn't hard. 22:33 Penguin no choclate bars 22:33 Penguin lol 22:35 VanessaE oy 22:36 jin_xi memetest 22:36 jin_xi but i like the brick shitting idea moar 22:36 VanessaE someone should re-visit that silly Minetest Trollpack texture pack :=-0 22:36 VanessaE :-) 22:37 marktraceur VanessaE: Happen to have downloads for the plastic sheet textures? (also, what license are they under?) 22:37 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor - textures are WTFPL, code is GPL. 22:37 Octupus Hola 22:37 Penguin right I will make 6 Nyans ,Nyan Dog (shits bricks) ,Nyan Penguin (Shits Chocolate), Nyan Puss (Octupuss shits dye ) Nyan baby Baby( Nyan cat) need one more 22:38 * marktraceur only needs textures, will relicense CC-BY-SA 22:38 VanessaE john_minetest: c55 put my nyancat images into minetest recently, with minor tweaks, so copyright is no longer an issue as mine only superficially resemble the originals. 22:38 VanessaE marktraceur: sounds fine to me 22:38 Penguin need one more nyan idear 22:39 Octupus So ima shit? 22:39 Octupus Kay 22:39 Penguin no 22:40 Penguin shits I mean what the blox are be hind it 22:40 Octupus O 22:40 Penguin octuc I dident mean to offend you 22:41 Octupus That was no offense Penguin 22:41 Penguin oh 22:42 Octupus Hellooooo Neko 22:42 Penguin all I need is texturs tbh 22:42 NekoGloop Minetest.net is perfectly fine :/ 22:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: it was down earlier, c55 said it was a weird configuration issue. Not sure I fully understand it, but through a weird cascade, minetest.net got pointed to c55's cell phone :-) 22:43 OldCoder NekoGloop, hi 22:43 Penguin octuc any inptickular texture you want for NyanPuss(Octupuss) 22:43 Octupus Mo 22:44 Octupus No* 22:44 Penguin okay 22:44 Penguin what shall spawn rate be ? 22:45 Octupus For? 22:45 VanessaE mapgen-based, no more than one every 30-node radius maybe 22:45 NekoGloop We need something like MineUp. 22:45 VanessaE and they should "die" if they fly too far from the point they spawned at. 22:46 VanessaE anyway, bbl. 22:47 Penguin okay 30 block is okay and @VanessaE maby 22:48 OldCoder Do we need the digger machine on 30004? 22:49 OldCoder I think it's adding to CPU and may be dangerous 22:49 OldCoder Any chance of turning it off? 22:49 Penguin why? 22:49 OldCoder Octupus, do you suppose you could arrange to turn that thing off? 22:49 OldCoder Penguin, if it is yours could you turn if off for a while? 22:49 OldCoder As a test? 22:49 OldCoder I want to check CPU use 22:50 OldCoder *turn it off 22:50 Octupus Turn what off 22:50 OldCoder There is a machine running 22:50 OldCoder last time one like this was used 22:50 OldCoder It broke the world 22:50 OldCoder And I think it's eating up my CPU 22:50 Octupus O 22:50 OldCoder It think it's also causing timeouts 22:50 Octupus Sure 22:50 Penguin I am not on server kacey is 22:50 OldCoder If possible have them turn it off and let's see 22:51 Octupus Ok 22:51 Octupus If it is needed I am all for it :) 22:51 OldCoder It's generating tens of thousands of lines of debug output too 22:51 OldCoder <--- Not a fan of this device 22:51 Octupus O 22:51 OldCoder -5047,4,-995 22:51 OldCoder Location is near there ^ 22:52 NekoGloop Take a mese pick to the damn thing then. 22:52 Octupus I not on server 22:53 Penguin shut server down for a bit it wouldent harm 22:53 Penguin anyone 22:53 OldCoder Is this Kacey's machine? 22:54 Octupus What machine is it? 22:54 OldCoder I don't know for sure 22:54 Penguin he is the only one on ther server and he has a duplixator and it lags serve lots 22:54 OldCoder Can somebody go smash it? 22:55 OldCoder Using WorldEdit or a pick as NekoGloop suggested? 22:55 Penguin its protected 22:55 OldCoder Then I'll do it 22:55 OldCoder Hold on 22:55 NekoGloop Worldedit ignores ownership and protect 22:55 Penguin it might not be but that's all I can think of 22:55 OldCoder Heading over there 22:56 Penguin is it kacey 22:56 OldCoder Kacey just logged in 22:56 Penguin who is it then 22:57 Penguin ? 22:57 Octupus What's a duplicates 22:57 Octupus Bye 22:57 Octupus Duplicates 22:58 NekoGloop Who's he, btw? 22:58 Octupus Duplicator 22:58 Octupus Idk 22:58 Penguin duplicator. yes its a bug machien mesecon 22:59 OldCoder It's Doc's 22:59 marktraceur Hm, I'm going blind, can someone help me see why this craft recipe is invalid? http://paste.marktraceur.info/3 22:59 Penguin coder what was it aand what cotuo 22:59 marktraceur In particular it says the rubber_base recipe is wrong, but I don't know why. 23:00 Octupus Thank you OldCoder 23:00 OldCoder I think I managed to break it 23:00 NekoGloop Replacements is double braces 23:00 Penguin what was it 23:00 OldCoder Tell Doc no more of those things 23:00 Octupus Ok 23:00 OldCoder Some type of machine that cycled a dozen times a second 23:00 marktraceur NekoGloop: I think it's supposed to be, isn't it? 23:00 NekoGloop marktraceur: But you dont have it that way. 23:01 Penguin was it a thing with blinkey plants node brackers and pistion ect 23:01 OldCoder I filled it with air and turned its parts into trees 23:01 OldCoder Penguin, I think so 23:01 marktraceur NekoGloop: I do, there's a brace on the same line and one on the next. replacements = {\n {'thing1', 'thing2' } } 23:01 NekoGloop Not in that paste, it seems not. 23:01 Penguin that's a duplicator 23:01 OldCoder Yes that was the CPU problem 23:01 Penguin coder 23:02 OldCoder It was eating 25% of my CPU by itself 23:02 OldCoder Penguin, ty 23:02 marktraceur NekoGloop: Line 30 is the first brace, line 31 has the second. 23:02 OldCoder All set then 23:02 NekoGloop Oh derp. 23:03 Penguin when he uses it we all disconnect. coder 23:03 NekoGloop Care to post more, marktraceur? 23:03 OldCoder Tell him no more of those 23:03 Octupus OldCoder: Thank you 23:03 OldCoder Octupus, yw 23:03 Octupus :) 23:03 marktraceur NekoGloop: More of what? 23:03 NekoGloop E.g. The actual debug output 23:04 marktraceur NekoGloop: http://paste.marktraceur.info/4 23:04 Penguin old coder. I will distory them all tomoro there's lots of them but his is worst tanker made them. he found out him self 23:05 OldCoder There are more of those monsters? 23:05 OldCoder Kacey, Hey 23:05 NekoGloop marktraceur: Try re-writing from scratch. 23:05 Kacey oldcoder you wanted me? 23:05 Octupus Hi Kacey 23:05 OldCoder Kacey, Nah. Just to answer your question... 23:05 marktraceur NekoGloop: I don't think I'd write anything different, so that wouldn't help 23:05 OldCoder That thing was eating 25% of my CPU and causing timeouts too 23:05 OldCoder So it had to go 23:05 NekoGloop marktraceur: I've found it to help :/ 23:05 Penguin only like 3 more coder 23:05 OldCoder That was all 23:05 Kacey ooh ok 23:06 Kacey octu can you join the server 23:06 OldCoder Penguin, Thank you. Penguin Kacey talk to Doc and Baby Face and make sure they get dismantled. 23:06 Octupus iPod :( 23:06 NekoGloop iPad 23:06 Kacey what get ismantled 23:07 Kacey what get dismantled 23:07 Penguin I have one but its is not set up it is in the chest. cuz I moved house 23:07 Penguin the duplicatiors kacey 23:07 Kacey aaw ok deployers can duplicate 23:07 Penguin I never atchly made one 23:07 OldCoder One of those costs as much as about 3 worlds by itself 23:08 Penguin really f**k me 23:08 Kacey ooh ok 23:08 marktraceur Anyone else have thoughts on why http://paste.marktraceur.info/3 line 30's register_craft is throwing an "invalid crafting recipe" error? 23:09 Kacey but i cannot get jungle tree without one 23:09 Penguin ask jeta to to fix bug and kacey so 23:09 Penguin get a sapling 23:10 Kacey you cant get a sapling for a jungle tree 23:10 Octupus OldCoder: U can go into mesecons then u can destroy the recipe for it 23:10 NekoGloop Penguin: Jungletrees are removed 23:10 Penguin oh 23:10 NekoGloop Octupus: Part of technic actually 23:10 Kacey recipe for what 23:10 Octupus O 23:10 OldCoder Octupus, Not needed yet. In the future CPUs may be fast enough to handle it. We'll see if people keep doing it. 23:10 Octupus Ok 23:10 OldCoder For now I'd like them dismantled 23:10 Octupus Ok 23:10 OldCoder A lot of work has gone into that world; best not to break it 23:11 Penguin its not a recipe its a human beast 23:11 marktraceur OH 23:11 marktraceur Hm, nope 23:12 Penguin doc has hidden ones around map I think 23:12 marktraceur Yeah, I was totally editing the wrong one. 23:12 Octupus :O 23:12 OldCoder The machines? No need for more discussion. Just ask him to delete them. 23:12 Penguin there automatic so he gosr off serve and leaves then on 23:13 * OldCoder shrugs 23:13 OldCoder Ask him to delete them. If he doesn't I'll find them. 23:13 Penguin okay coder. 23:13 OldCoder ty 23:13 Kacey i am going to use duplicator from now on ok coder 23:13 Penguin yay coder 23:13 OldCoder Kacey, what is the distinction regarding duplicator? 23:14 Penguin everything 23:14 OldCoder K 23:14 Octupus Kacey: Don't use the dupcator 23:14 Kacey you put a block in and push a button and it creates that block and you can do it infinitly 23:14 Kacey i meant deployer 23:15 Octupus U mean with da tubes 23:15 Kacey no 23:15 Penguin oldcoder make it a rule no duplicators or interract revoked for 2days. 23:15 OldCoder Sounds fair 23:15 OldCoder But we can drop it for now; notify him when you see him. 23:15 Penguin it will teach them 23:15 OldCoder Nothing more to say for now 23:15 Octupus Also duplicators alter gameplay 23:16 Penguin okay will do 23:16 Octupus K 23:16 Kacey what about deployers? 23:16 Penguin and if that do it again it doubles to 4 then 6 so on 23:16 OldCoder Penguin, I think the subject can be dropped for now 23:16 OldCoder Have fun on the server 23:17 Kacey but what about deployers? 23:17 OldCoder Is there consensus about them? 23:17 Penguin just seen that no more comment okay coder 23:17 OldCoder Are deployers fair? Unfair? Do they drain resources? 23:17 Kacey they just deploy a block 23:17 Penguin unfair 23:18 OldCoder Is there agreement they are unfair? What about Creative Worlds? 23:18 Kacey ill set one up if you get on server oldcoder 23:18 Penguin u don't need a diployer to make duplicator 23:18 OldCoder Kacey, ty but I am working IRL today 23:18 Octupus Duplicators make it almost like creative 23:18 Kacey ooh ok 23:18 OldCoder Hmm 23:18 Penguin its mese cons pistion node bracker lever and button 23:18 OldCoder It is the group's decision about deployers 23:18 Octupus It is unfair to ppl who don't have it 23:18 Kacey node breakers are used in duplicators 23:19 OldCoder So O.K. for Creative but not in normal play 23:19 Kacey they r not hard to make 23:19 Penguin yes kacey 23:19 NekoGloop Octupus: With the exception of only nodes being dupe-able. 23:19 Octupus Yep 23:19 Penguin I no kacey make one and you will have coder to deal with 23:20 Kacey i have an idea already 23:20 * OldCoder laughs 23:20 OldCoder Yeah, like I'm dangerous :p 23:20 OldCoder Boo! 23:20 Penguin no u make one and your. in trouble 23:21 Kacey nobody will know!!!! 23:21 OldCoder We do have logs, you know 23:21 Penguin we will now u told us 23:21 Kacey but not for this 23:22 Kacey logs cannot detect what i put into something 23:22 Penguin if he dose revoke for 2 days he has been warned coder 23:22 Penguin and its up to you what gose on in your server 23:22 Octupus Yes he has penguin 23:23 Penguin what octuo 23:24 Octupus Warned 23:24 Penguin ikr 23:24 Penguin coder r u there 23:25 OldCoder Yes 23:25 OldCoder Penguin, to summon me spell the full name: OldCoder 23:26 * OldCoder chuckles 23:26 Penguin (^ټ^) PEDOBEAR APPROVES 23:26 OldCoder Kacey, what are you doing? 23:26 Penguin okay @oldcoder 23:26 Penguin is he making one 23:26 OldCoder I haven't looked yet; I'm actually working on MySQL databases right now 23:27 Octupus O cool 23:27 Penguin I said that and me left check 23:27 Octupus Penguin tell kacey I said if he builds 1 I will revoke mod privs also 23:28 Penguin and he left check* 23:28 Penguin I am not on serve 23:28 Octupus O 23:28 Octupus Ok 23:28 Octupus I will tell him later 23:29 T_A_N_K Why does minetest.net keep going down? 23:29 Penguin old coder in minetest.config message of the day put about the duplicators ?! 23:29 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: Ohai there. 23:29 T_A_N_K Hi 23:30 Penguin ? 23:31 Octupus Hi T_A_N_K 23:31 T_A_N_K hi 23:31 Penguin @OldCoder is That A Good idear 23:31 OldCoder Penguin, I think we can drop it for now 23:31 OldCoder Let's see how things go 23:32 Penguin okay jus suggestion and let's move on from subject now 23:34 OldCoder All right 23:35 Penguin I am penguin english boy over and out night @OldCoder Night Octupuss night all 23:36 OldCoder Good night 23:36 Penguin 5 23:36 Penguin 4 23:36 Penguin 3 23:36 Penguin 2 23:36 Penguin 1 23:36 Penguin bye 23:36 NekoGloop 0 23:37 NekoGloop -1 23:37 NekoGloop -2 23:37 NekoGloop -3 23:39 OldCoder Heh 23:39 OldCoder Countdown! 23:39 Octupus Bye penguin 23:39 NekoGloop -50 23:39 NekoGloop -51 23:39 NekoGloop -52 23:39 OldCoder NekoGloop, he is gone 23:40 NekoGloop I know. 23:40 OldCoder All right 23:40 NekoGloop He left, then it was a negative count until he leaves (because he already did) 23:41 OldCoder all right 23:42 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=related&v=PRd7gOfIS-0 23:42 marktraceur http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=related&v=PRd7gOfIS-0&webm-true 23:43 marktraceur http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=related&v=PRd7gOfIS-0&webm=true sorry 23:43 Octupus No hear phones on u can talk to me 23:43 Octupus 1 hear phone in u can talk to me if I like you 23:44 Octupus 2 hear phones in STFU 23:45 marktraceur Octupus: Head. Headphones. 23:45 NekoGloop This is me ^ 23:45 Octupus Thank you :) 23:45 Octupus NekoGloop: I guess u are more then my trolling buddy 23:45 * marktraceur thinks we need a full time spellchecker in this channel 23:46 Octupus It's was a typo marktraceur 23:46 marktraceur Octupus: Yes, and there are a lot of them! SOMEONE MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE 23:46 Octupus XD 23:47 marktraceur This summer, one English professor....will try to fix the world's mistakes....BY ERASING THEM. 23:47 NekoGloop So true. 23:47 marktraceur Wait, they used five exclamation marks? That would mean....oh god.We need to call the CIA. 23:48 marktraceur 23:48 NekoGloop I'm hungry, feed me damn it 23:48 marktraceur Hm, good idea. Food. 23:49 Octupus Call me maybe? 23:54 NekoGloop Call me when you die? 23:59 Octupus Sure :)