Time Nick Message 00:00 Uberi wow 3D players are looking nice 00:01 RealBadAngel with HD textures even better 00:02 GTRsdk that looks real nice 00:03 GTRsdk so how many people here think walmart or Sams club wouldn'tminnd having minetest installed on their laptops? :-) 00:04 Taoki Uberi: https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/commit/122bf0012c95d43a01ba772d489af251887fe074 Am I doing it right? 00:04 Taoki and is that description correct? 00:06 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/mc.png 00:06 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/mc.png repost for jin_xi 00:06 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/hulk.png 00:06 Taoki RealBadAngel: Can I post those on the forum to keep people excited about the models :) 00:06 Uberi looks about right, Taoki 00:06 Taoki ok 00:06 RealBadAngel sure 00:06 Uberi but you probably know it better than I 00:07 Taoki Well those are the only new message types I added 00:08 RealBadAngel Master Chef skin is kinda cool :) 00:10 jin_xi hi, yeah, cool skin 00:11 RealBadAngel Taoki, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcbTlVRaiY8 00:11 RealBadAngel now such models please :) 00:12 Taoki lol yeah :) 00:13 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPf0FL4JOLE 00:13 RealBadAngel or such one 00:13 Taoki RealBadAngel: Graphics like that are what I want in MineTest :) 00:13 Taoki eventually... someday 00:13 Taoki I'm crazy eh 00:14 RealBadAngel ok, you got 2 weeks ;) 00:14 RealBadAngel eventually till xmas :) 00:14 Taoki hehe 00:15 * RealBadAngel changes Taoki nick to SantaTaoki 00:15 Taoki Naaah, doesn't fit me :P 00:16 RealBadAngel dont complain, take a pen and write down what we do want for this Xmas :) 00:17 RealBadAngel you got the job just :) 00:19 RealBadAngel anybody else i suggest start writing letters to Santa Claus, err sorry Santa Taoki 00:19 Octupus wow ppl is #minecraft are harsh 00:19 Taoki Ho ho ho! You've been a good developer. Look what Santa has for you... dynamic lighting, shader support, and some BulletX physics 00:20 Taoki (some Christmases from now) 00:20 Octupus U owe me a pony Taoki i asked for it last year *grumpy face* 00:21 Octupus XD just kidding 00:21 Taoki Awww. I have a lot on my computer table if you want one ;) 00:21 telek Cool so long as any physics support is OpenCL based :D 00:21 RealBadAngel 3d mob called pony? :) 00:21 Taoki Careful. I WILL port my MLP ponies to MT toio :3 00:21 Taoki **too 00:21 Taoki Xonotic was my first victim at that 00:22 Octupus Taoki,u made it way easier to make 3d mobs now u know 00:22 RealBadAngel hehehe 00:22 RealBadAngel not easier 00:22 RealBadAngel possible 00:22 Taoki Octupus: Well, you just open up Blender, make the mesh and export it 00:22 Taoki That part one still has to do 00:23 Octupus XD i just said i wish i had the full MC in #minecraft and they were like DO U HAVE A HACKED CLIENT 00:23 Octupus and i was like .....no 00:24 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9njr9jSkaY 00:24 RealBadAngel about lights... 00:25 RealBadAngel and IrrBullet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScniyBdEUlE&feature=related 00:27 Octupus XD there is this 1 guy who is hunting me down on the minecraft channel XD 00:27 Taoki Very awesome (both videos) 00:27 Taoki Yeah, I want those features in MineTest too :/ They should be possible... like the models were (Irrlicht functions too) 00:28 Taoki but its a big dream 00:28 telek Taoki: Go for it. 00:28 Octupus Hi LandMine 00:28 telek I know a guy who is involved in the East Coast BronyCon :D 00:28 Octupus those guys in #minecraft are hunting me down 00:28 Taoki awesome 00:28 Taoki And i will in time 00:28 Taoki features need to be added slowly though 00:29 Taoki But yes... dynamic lighting and / or shaders are my next concern 00:29 telek Taoki: If you're going to bother, start with water effects. 00:29 Octupus lalala 00:29 Taoki Depends how shades will work. Need to check out Kahrl's existing code for that, if still compatible 00:30 RealBadAngel take a look at water: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ3R0yJMO6U&feature=related 00:30 telek Also: Has anyone looked into dropping the water level a pixel or two below the block height, so it'll 'shore' properly? 00:30 telek That would also allow room for doing animated effects like wave ripples and tides. 00:30 RealBadAngel last vid is just about in time :) 00:34 RealBadAngel taoki, can you join my ip now? 00:34 telek Taoki: Also, might wanna look into OpenMW and their shader infrastructure. Not sure if the license is GPL or LGPL, but it might be a way to save some time and enjoy some cross-project code exchange. 00:37 Taoki ok, will keep in mind. GTG now, later 00:38 Octupus bye Taoki 00:41 Octupus hi babyface1031 00:42 Octupus hi babyface1031_ 00:42 babyface1031_ hi 00:55 Octupus Hi M13 00:55 M13 hi 00:55 Octupus u didnt come back last night 00:55 Octupus :( 00:55 M13 srry 00:55 Octupus so u want me to watch over the server 00:56 M13 yes 00:56 Octupus kay 00:56 Octupus whats the ip 00:56 M13 m13.sytes.net 00:56 M13 Port 00:56 M13 30002 00:56 M13 30001* 00:56 Octupus i was on it i was looking around in your house 00:56 Octupus :P 00:57 M13 I have no house 00:57 Octupus must have been some1 elses 00:57 M13 im nervious 00:57 Octupus why? 00:57 M13 I have to call my girlfriends dad 00:57 Octupus XD 00:57 M13 and talk to him :/ 00:58 Octupus i got kicked 00:58 Octupus why 00:58 M13 what??? 00:58 Octupus Unknown inventory identifier 01:16 OldCoder Hi 01:16 Octupus Hi coder 01:16 OldCoder babyface1031_, Hi! 01:16 OldCoder Octupus, Hello! 01:16 Octupus :D 01:16 babyface1031_ hi @OldCoder 01:16 OldCoder Taoki|away, we will discuss Taoki World 01:17 Octupus i need to make a website 01:18 OldCoder Octupus, Have fun 01:18 Octupus thank you 01:18 Octupus i wish to have a website to put these pictures of my creations up 01:19 Octupus wuld u like to see a screeny 01:20 OldCoder Sure 01:21 Octupus there is a little suprise at the front on the temple 01:28 Octupus http://i.imgur.com/BfB57.png 01:29 Octupus OldCoder,there ya go buddy 01:30 OldCoder R 01:30 OldCoder That is very nice! 01:30 OldCoder Artwork 01:30 OldCoder Should be treasured 01:32 Octupus :) 01:32 Octupus did u find the suprise 01:36 OldCoder Looking closer 01:37 OldCoder Doc22, hi 01:37 Doc22 hey olcoder :D 01:37 OldCoder I am concerned about NekoGloop. If anybody sees him elsewhere ask him to stop by. 01:37 Doc22 why are you? 01:37 OldCoder Doc22, he is usually around more often 01:37 Doc22 hmmm 01:38 Doc22 probably just bogged down with something 01:38 Doc22 sometimes I am that way. 01:40 OldCoder Octupus, I don't know what to look for. I see MT in a tab. Nothing too unexpected yet. 01:40 Octupus its the piggy 01:40 Octupus he was posing in the picture 01:41 OldCoder Looking again! 01:42 Doc22 so who thinks a modded hunger games server would be fun 01:42 OldCoder The pink block? I saw that 01:42 OldCoder Is that a piggy? 01:42 OldCoder He is the right color 01:42 Doc22 anyone... 01:42 GTRsdk Is there a Minetest chat <-> IRC mod or plugin available? 01:42 Doc22 ummm 01:42 Doc22 idk 01:42 Doc22 so that it can join irc 01:42 Doc22 ? 01:43 GTRsdk basically relay chat messages 01:43 OldCoder GTRsdk, I wish to make one 01:43 OldCoder Ingame chat is a pain to use 01:43 OldCoder No scrollback or tab or arrow keys 01:44 Octupus Yes OldCoder, that was a piggy :) 01:44 GTRsdk well not making ingame chat like IRC 01:44 GTRsdk but to relay irc chat to ingame 01:44 GTRsdk and ingame chat to IRC 01:44 Octupus adios every1 01:44 Doc22 cya 01:45 Octupus have to sleep 01:45 Doc22 baibai 01:45 OldCoder All right 01:45 Octupus see u all tomorrow 01:45 Doc22 cya l8r 01:45 Octupus The piggy was looking at you coder :) 01:45 Doc22 :) 01:45 OldCoder Yes! 01:45 Doc22 :D 01:45 OldCoder He was and is 01:45 Doc22 he wants you.... 01:45 Octupus :D 01:45 Octupus bye 01:45 Doc22 >:D 01:45 OldCoder For the U.S. Army 01:45 Doc22 bye 01:45 Doc22 lol 01:46 Doc22 for the army of bacon 01:46 Doc22 you must be BACONATED >:D 01:46 Doc22 Can you guide me through something 01:46 Doc22 I want to make ruins generate in the map 01:46 Doc22 for hunger games 01:47 Doc22 with chests etc 01:47 Doc22 I know how to make a node that generates and make the on_generate command 01:47 Doc22 can you guide me through making some buildings that randomly generate 01:48 OldCoder Doc22, I cannot but others may at different times of the day 01:48 Doc22 ok 01:51 Doc22 where is the api... 01:51 Doc22 again 01:51 Doc22 i forgot 01:53 OldCoder Hmm? 01:53 OldCoder http://api.minetest.net/ 01:53 OldCoder Is that what you mean? 01:55 Doc22 i looked at that one 01:55 Doc22 but it isnt advanced enough 01:55 Doc22 im looking at one i found on google 02:09 Doc22 working on the generation of buildings 02:09 Doc22 is there a set_spawn() function 02:10 Doc22 that would be useful for making the building 02:15 Doc22 Oldcoder what is ObjectRef in function minetest.register_on_dieplayer(func(ObjectRef))and how can I get player name 02:21 Doc22 oh that is the name 02:28 OldCoder Back 02:29 OldCoder Doc22, I hope to start programming mods in early 2013 02:29 Doc22 oh ok 02:29 Doc22 ill be ahead of you so ill help you 02:29 * Doc22 snickers with delight 02:29 Doc22 haha 02:39 Doc22 realbadangel I need your help with the function register_on_dieplayer(function(player) 02:39 Doc22 how do I get the players location 02:40 Doc22 and name 02:42 OldCoder Doc22, No snickers needed; you are correct 02:42 Doc22 ok 02:42 Doc22 lol 02:55 Doc22 RealBadAngel I researched more on the function 02:56 Doc22 is there a player:setspawn 02:56 Doc22 function? 02:57 Doc22 oh never mind 02:57 Doc22 lol i keep coming up with the solution 03:05 OldCoder Doc22, that is positive 03:05 Doc22 what is it 03:06 Doc22 the function 03:06 Doc22 if thats what you mean 03:06 OldCoder No 03:06 OldCoder lol i keep coming up with the solution 03:06 Doc22 oh about solution 03:06 Doc22 ok 03:06 Doc22 i made code that should spawn the player at 100 30 100 03:06 Doc22 but it doesnt work,,, 03:07 Doc22 it goes in register_on_respawnplayer 03:07 Doc22 ok reading more on the api helps 03:09 Doc22 hooray another success 03:10 Doc22 now how to figure out how to make a building generate at a particular spot on the map... 03:11 Doc22 hmm i got an idea 03:42 Doc22 im having trouble accesing minetest.env 03:42 Doc22 it says "attempt to index field 'env' (a nil value) 03:42 Doc22 my code is this 03:43 Doc22 minetest.env:set_node(pos, {name=name}) 03:43 Doc22 I have a variable name = "default:mese" 03:53 T_A_N_K There's no sound on the latest windows version 03:56 GTRsdk 1. Do your speakers work? 03:56 GTRsdk 2. Are you sure it's not muted? 03:57 T_A_N_K Yes, I am not a noob, I'm just stating that there is no sound, i see openAL is included though 03:57 GTRsdk silly things can happen to even the best of us :-) 04:00 Doc22 HMM 04:00 Doc22 tank are you a modder 04:01 Doc22 T_A_N_K? 04:01 Doc22 ok then 04:01 Doc22 GTRsdk are you a modder? 04:02 T_A_N_K Yea i am 04:02 T_A_N_K I wrote tech 'n mine 04:04 Doc22 ok 04:04 Doc22 can you help me 04:05 Doc22 I am calling minetest.env in my init.lua file 04:05 Doc22 and it gives me an error 04:05 Doc22 it says "attempt to index field 'env' (a nil value) 04:07 Doc22 minetest.env:add_node(pos, {name=name}) I tried doing this in my init.lua file 04:07 Doc22 not inside any functions 04:07 Doc22 and right when the mod loads 04:07 Doc22 does it have to be after the world finishes? 04:07 Doc22 after it finishes loading * 04:08 Doc22 hrmmm an idea is coming to mind... 04:09 T_A_N_K env? 04:09 T_A_N_K minetest.env? 04:09 Doc22 yes 04:09 T_A_N_K code? 04:09 Doc22 ok ill pasty it 04:10 Doc22 http://pastebin.com/4Asfig0u 04:10 Doc22 T_A_N_K 04:11 T_A_N_K what line gives error? 04:11 Muadtralk I am error 04:12 Doc22 6 04:12 Doc22 I just want to generate a building in a set spot at the beginning of the map generation 04:12 OldCoder Muadtralk, you are error? 04:12 T_A_N_K you aren't giving minetest an instruction 04:13 T_A_N_K lua is handling it 04:13 Muadtralk bad zelda reference 04:13 T_A_N_K and lua has no minetest function 04:13 Doc22 this is what it throws 04:13 GTRsdk Doc22: I'm a hacker. But not of Minetest (yet). 04:13 T_A_N_K use on_generate or whatever function handles generation 04:13 Doc22 it says "attempt to index field 'env' (a nil value) 04:13 GTRsdk though I have attempted some things... just haven't played with minetest enough 04:13 Doc22 ok gtr 04:13 Doc22 ok 04:14 Doc22 but it is in a set position 04:14 Doc22 doesnt this mean that every time a chunk is generated it calls it 04:14 Doc22 and adds the nodes 04:14 Doc22 this seems slow and laggy 04:14 Doc22 :/ 04:14 T_A_N_K ok then, on player join 04:15 Doc22 ok 04:15 Doc22 wait 04:15 Doc22 on_generate gives variables maxp and minp right 04:15 Doc22 and you can go maxp.x 04:15 Doc22 etc 04:15 Doc22 to figure out if it is inside the generated chunk? 04:16 Doc22 that way it only does it once 04:16 T_A_N_K yes 04:16 Doc22 ok 04:16 Doc22 ill come up with a formula 04:16 T_A_N_K that's how superflat worked 04:17 T_A_N_K if maxp < 100 and minp >0 then blah blah 04:17 Doc22 ok 04:17 Doc22 so maxp is the top corner 04:17 Doc22 and minp the opposite 04:17 Doc22 cool 04:19 T_A_N_K but make suure you use maxp .z,maxp.y,maxp.x,minp.z,minp.y,minp.x to specify the chunk you want it in so it doesn't generate everytime 04:20 Doc22 wait can you explain 04:20 Doc22 so i want a block from 1 1 1 to 10 10 10 04:20 Doc22 how do i do this 04:21 T_A_N_K Why don't you just have a block that turns into that? 04:21 T_A_N_K Like the admin sets the block down, and it turns into the structure you want 04:21 Doc22 oh it would simplify it 04:21 Doc22 but it needs to be automatic 04:22 Doc22 now I can just go place the block in the chunk 04:22 Doc22 thanks 04:35 T_A_N_K http://youtu.be/hX3jM5bn6IU 05:20 GloopMaster hm... gets kinda dead here after midnight. 05:23 GloopMaster neko259: Hello! 05:40 OldCoder I am falling asleep; night 06:22 ruskie *yawn* 06:28 M13 has celeron55 been around lately? 06:30 ruskie yeah some 13-4 hours ago 06:32 M13 ok 06:32 M13 do you think I could be a supporter for Minetest compiling? 10:54 mrscotty Hi. I'm setting up a minetest server for my boys and their friends. I have the latest client compiled for our Macs and the latest server on Ubuntu. Which game or games would you suggest as the best gaming experience? 12:29 madarexxx Hi everybody. Could someone help me? How can i check, who is using a chat command? And how can i see coordinates of this player 13:04 I-Punkt the recipe for Bucket doesnt work. the door also faild to create. minetest was installed via apt in ubuntu. someone an idea? 13:04 I-Punkt c550.3.1 13:08 thexyz compile newest minetest from source 13:10 I-Punkt where can i find new version? 13:11 I-Punkt ok, found it 13:11 I-Punkt thx 13:13 I-Punkt btw. this is a cool game! thx 13:21 I-Punkt new veryxi 13:21 I-Punkt new verrsion works fine. now sound and other stuff works.. 13:21 I-Punkt thx cu 13:42 jin_xi_ hey NekoGloop 13:46 NekoGloop ... What do you want. 13:58 thexyz NekoGloop: why did you remove all you mods? 13:59 NekoGloop Because no one wanted them. No need to keep something unneeded. 14:01 thexyz well, that 14:01 thexyz 's your opinion only 14:02 NekoGloop That's a fact. 14:02 thexyz even though they were posted in "mod releases" section 14:02 thexyz not really nice 14:03 NekoGloop Not like i can move them back to modding general. 14:04 * OldCoder sighs 14:04 OldCoder So I need to set up a NekoMirror now? 14:04 OldCoder I've got my copies. I'll post calls for other NekoCopies periodically. 14:04 OldCoder I have other things to do and am quite tired 14:05 thexyz that's just odd 14:05 SmugLeaf mrscotty: i don't know what you are asking 14:05 OldCoder SmugLeaf, do you have copies of NekoGloop mods? 14:05 OldCoder If so, post them 14:05 NekoGloop Why would he? They're useless. 14:05 OldCoder Are you qualified to make that assessment? 14:05 OldCoder I feel the answer is no 14:05 SmugLeaf loling 14:05 OldCoder You are not objective enough 14:06 thexyz well, then i'd better ban neko from forums and recover all his posts (as I've done with cornernote's) 14:06 OldCoder thexyz, No need to ban 14:06 OldCoder But recover the posts please 14:06 OldCoder It is reasonable 14:06 OldCoder Personal sites elsewhere should not be mirrored 14:06 mrscotty SmugLeaf: The vanilla game seems to be minetest_game from celeron55. I'm trying to find out what the general difference is between the alternatives. 14:07 OldCoder As cornernote pointed out to me those are the property of the creators 14:07 mrscotty SmugLeaf: I'm setting up the server for my kids, so I didn't want to go through all the games myself. 14:07 OldCoder mrscotty, Is this about MT? They may like Skyblock 14:08 OldCoder cornernote made it partly for his own kids 14:08 mrscotty Yes, it's about minetest. Hadn't seen Skyblock, yet. 14:08 OldCoder It is not bad 14:09 OldCoder thexyz, are cornernote posts back? 14:09 OldCoder Or elsewhere? 14:09 OldCoder mrscotty may wish to review the Skyblock posts 14:09 thexyz OldCoder: they are 14:09 OldCoder ty 14:10 thexyz OldCoder: what if he removes it once again? 14:10 OldCoder thexyz, cornernote may not repeat it 14:10 mrscotty OldCoder: thanks, I'll take a look. Goal is to find a cool game that has active development. 14:10 thexyz OldCoder: not cornernote, but NekoGloop 14:10 OldCoder thexyz, is it ethical to lock the threads temporarily? 14:10 OldCoder I can mirror them myself 14:10 OldCoder Once they are up 14:11 OldCoder NekoGloop, If people miss your threads, and you... 14:11 NekoGloop No one misses me. 14:11 OldCoder will you be arrogant enough to deny them your threads? 14:11 OldCoder NekoGloop, are you so sure? 14:12 NekoGloop Yes. 14:12 thexyz lol 14:12 OldCoder NekoGloop, You are not objective or sensible 14:12 thexyz and this is why OldCoder tries now to recover everything 14:12 OldCoder thexyz, decide whether or not the rules permit the threads to be locked 14:12 NekoGloop Just lock them, i dont care. 14:12 OldCoder Proceed according to the rules. I will capture the threads and mirror them if possible. 14:13 thexyz OldCoder: i do have access to some sort of forum backup 14:13 OldCoder thexyz, he has stated permission. Does this help? 14:13 OldCoder Since there is permission post the threads and lock them for now 14:13 NekoGloop Just ban me too, i dont care. 14:13 OldCoder If a lock is possible. They can be closed but if that means they are dead it is regrettable. 14:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, you must decide for yourself what you care about 14:14 NekoGloop OldCoder: If you hadnt noticed, they're dead already. 14:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, you are not being clear 14:14 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:14 OldCoder PilzAdam, Hello 14:14 NekoGloop The topics; they're already dead. 14:15 thexyz ok, I've downloaded all of them 14:15 OldCoder NekoGloop, they are not 14:15 OldCoder thexyz, Do you wish to put them back online now and is it possible to lock them? 14:15 OldCoder Without a permanent close? 14:15 thexyz need some way to protect those topics of editing 14:15 OldCoder thexyz, mod the threads perhaps 14:15 OldCoder I thought that was one option 14:15 thexyz only one I can imagine is permanent ban for topics' author 14:16 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/search.php?action=show_user_topics&user_id=2600 14:16 OldCoder So marking a thread as moderated is not possible? 14:16 OldCoder R 14:16 NekoGloop They're all dead. 14:16 OldCoder NekoGloop, He is preparing to restore them 14:16 thexyz oh, it seems I'd also need to ask c55 for that texture pack 14:16 OldCoder Will you permit this? 14:17 NekoGloop If he wants to waste his time. 14:17 thexyz OldCoder: what do you mean by "marking a thread as moderated"? 14:17 OldCoder thexyz, Many forums have moderated threads. But it is a moot point if he will permit this 14:17 OldCoder He is implying that he will 14:18 OldCoder Put back the old posts if it is possible 14:18 OldCoder Let us see what happens 14:18 NekoGloop No one has even posted on the topics since i edited them. 14:18 OldCoder NekoGloop, your point? 14:18 NekoGloop No one cares. 14:18 thexyz OldCoder: I don't like to let him modify those threads once again 14:18 OldCoder thexyz, valid point 14:18 OldCoder thexyz, what if I capture them? 14:19 OldCoder and host copies? 14:19 NekoGloop thexyz: Ban me already. I dont care. 14:19 thexyz probably will need to ask celeron55 to change threads' author (if possible) 14:19 OldCoder NekoGloop, nobody is going to ban you if it can be avoided 14:19 thexyz well, not possible, but "easy enough" 14:19 NekoGloop Just take the links and post them. 14:19 OldCoder thexyz, two options then... 14:19 OldCoder (a) Restore and I will capture for mirrors 14:20 OldCoder (b) Restore and change thread author 14:20 OldCoder Or both 14:20 thexyz i prefer the second one 14:20 NekoGloop (c) take the links and repost them 14:20 OldCoder Proceed as time permits then 14:20 OldCoder NekoGloop, (a) is better 14:20 OldCoder Then there is context 14:21 OldCoder I must lie down for15 minutes 14:21 OldCoder bbiab 14:21 NekoGloop (c) means you can claim whatever amount you want. All of the shit i made was wtfpl. 14:22 celeron55 lol drama 14:22 NekoGloop No drama. Just facts. No one cared, so i removed my mods. 14:22 celeron55 i once made useless shit called "minetest", nobody cares about it 14:23 celeron55 could just remove it now 14:23 NekoGloop Go ahead. 14:27 SmugLeaf mrscotty: oh, you mean mods 14:27 mrscotty SmugLeaf: no, I mean the games that go in the games/ folder. 14:28 mrscotty There's minetest_game, realtest, minimal, minitest, avatar, etc... 14:29 mrscotty The idea is that if I pick one of the games that is most used, I'll have the least headaches when adding mods. Also, "most used" hopefully means "most coolness" ;-) 14:29 NekoGloop Then choose minimal. 14:36 RealBadAngel hello minetest 14:36 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, wheat textures? 14:36 RealBadAngel easy, weekend just started for me 14:36 RealBadAngel i had very tough week 14:37 RealBadAngel max 15 hrs at work 14:37 RealBadAngel when goin out at 5 am i was back on 10pm 14:38 RealBadAngel i havent coded even a single line since thursday 14:39 RealBadAngel we got a mess in forums 14:40 RealBadAngel i guess bot posted polish spam 14:40 RealBadAngel its a real mess 14:40 RealBadAngel propably some web page pasted there 14:41 RealBadAngel mix of news and ads 14:56 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi 14:56 RealBadAngel hi 14:56 OldCoder celeron55, Useless? Not true 14:57 jin_xi_ Hey RBA i'm continuing to overhaul tetris 14:57 OldCoder celeron55, you are wiser than I about many things. I am wiser than you about some. I know what matters now. What counts. Do not presume to judge your own creation. Time will do that. 14:57 jin_xi_ if you wanna work on it limit it to textures (background, buttons) atm 14:58 RealBadAngel jin_xi_, oke 14:58 OldCoder babyface1031, Good morning to you 14:58 RealBadAngel i just started but need to make some more changes to main tree 14:58 RealBadAngel images are still not correctly scaled 14:59 RealBadAngel i left this not changed but i think its necesary 14:59 babyface1031 good morning 15:00 RealBadAngel mornin? some just got back from work :) 15:00 RealBadAngel its 4pm here 15:01 babyface1031 it is 10 am here 15:01 RealBadAngel even that cant be called a mornin for me ;) 15:01 RealBadAngel i wake up 4am :) 15:02 OldCoder k 15:11 babyface1031 i been up just this is the first time able to get on the computer 15:11 RealBadAngel sure, just laughin at the different meanings of the time 15:18 celeron55 OldCoder: i know that and what i said was a satirical comment 15:19 OldCoder celeron55, all right. I don't understand the satirical component. I'm a bit literal. 15:19 OldCoder That part of me is no longer a great secret 15:19 * OldCoder chuckles 15:20 OldCoder We may have visitors reading that now. Including my brother. Hey, Ken! :D 15:25 iqualfragile1 celeron55: is the link to the survey needed anymore? 15:39 mrscotty OldCoder, thanks again for the tip on Skyblock--pretty wicked idea. My boys are 10 and 12, so I think I'll stick to the vanilla minetest_game and just add a couple of the most popular mods. I'll keep it simple and let them figure out whether they want to switch to a different game. 15:41 OldCoder mrscotty, give it time 15:41 OldCoder They will like the idea of building new worlds 15:41 OldCoder Tell them: When I was their age... 15:41 OldCoder We did it with wooden blocks and Lego :D 15:42 OldCoder Things have changed a little 15:42 OldCoder 15:42 OldCoder mrscotty, for lists of the mods that I use visit: 15:42 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 15:42 OldCoder 15:42 OldCoder I will post all of my versions soon 15:42 OldCoder They have small fixes and corrections 15:42 OldCoder Some of the mods are buggy but fun 15:43 OldCoder If you get Town Test for example... 15:43 OldCoder there is a servant who will build for you but you must feed him 15:43 OldCoder 15:44 OldCoder mrscotty, also it appears that Technic is fun and useful. Ask RealBadAngel for more information. 15:44 OldCoder 15:44 mrscotty sounds cool. just need to finish compiling the client on their computer and they'll be all set. 15:46 ruskie well technic generally requires a bit of effort to implement things but it's nice when you actually do the effort 15:58 RealBadAngel on the raised problem, im goin to remove some dependecies, eat some other code 15:58 RealBadAngel and release Technic as standalone add-on 15:59 RealBadAngel i realize that installing all other stuff, lookin if in correct version can be a bit confusing for new users 15:59 RealBadAngel so im going to simplify it to the limits 16:01 ruskie won't that cause conflicts? 16:01 ruskie I didn't mean implement in terms of deploy but in terms of gameplay... 16:01 RealBadAngel definitely not 16:01 ruskie as in takes a bit of effort to do other stuff 16:02 RealBadAngel i want to work it that way: 16:02 RealBadAngel you get the game 16:02 RealBadAngel then dowload just 1 file 16:02 RealBadAngel and technic works 16:03 RealBadAngel i will take care of dep mod versions needed 16:03 RealBadAngel this way will be even easier not only for users but for me as well 16:04 ruskie so basically a modpack? 16:04 RealBadAngel i wont have to guess for example if user has mod mesecons already there but older version 16:04 RealBadAngel somethin in between a modpack and game mode 16:05 RealBadAngel i need features of both ways 16:06 RealBadAngel i have to do some testing, but i think if not sit in the middle, possibly go game mode way 16:10 anunakki hmm 16:19 RealBadAngel anunakki, hmm for what? 16:24 ruskie hmm anything weird happening to the server? 16:24 ruskie europe that is 16:49 RealBadAngel like what? 16:49 ruskie odd lag 16:49 RealBadAngel joining 16:49 ruskie I try to craft and it doesn't set items around or just keeps swapping them around 16:50 RealBadAngel hah, still have Master Chef folks around 16:50 RealBadAngel so i guess Taokis code is pretty stable 16:50 RealBadAngel they were here standing for like 12 last hours 16:52 ruskie so when do we get carts on europe? 16:53 RealBadAngel patient, patient 16:53 RealBadAngel i guess EU is down 16:53 RealBadAngel cant login 16:53 ruskie hmm I'm on as is artur and his brother 16:53 RealBadAngel OldCoder: can you check? 16:53 ruskie but as said... seems leggy or something 16:54 RealBadAngel but i cant log in 16:54 ruskie I saw you join 16:54 ruskie then you dropped 16:54 ruskie actually still see you 16:55 ruskie and we are chatting 16:55 ruskie there even says you joined 16:55 RealBadAngel lol 16:55 RealBadAngel i guess thats weekend 16:57 RealBadAngel i think i will just finish watchin "Looper" movie and then take a nap 17:02 ruskie mm seems like when artur99 goes off things clear up a bit 17:03 Jordach hello everyone 17:06 Jordach Taoki_1 one hot metadata skin coming right up 17:08 ruskie OldCoder, did you do a fresh backup once the server was back up? 17:13 Doc22 ugh i think i made babyface ragequit on 30004 17:14 Jordach Taoki_1 - you here? 17:14 Doc22 i was throwing snowballs 17:14 Doc22 i was going to pick them up 17:14 Doc22 -_- 17:14 Doc22 hey oldcoder 17:17 OldCoder Doc22, Hi 17:17 Doc22 hey 17:18 OldCoder ruskie, not yet; wanted you to test it 17:18 Doc22 i came here to try and find babyface 17:18 OldCoder I will shut down now for backup if you agree 17:18 Doc22 [10:13] ugh i think i made babyface ragequit on 30004 17:18 OldCoder Doc22, she was here earlier 17:18 OldCoder What happened? 17:18 Doc22 i was throwing snowballs 17:18 OldCoder And? 17:18 Doc22 and she saw them and just said STOP 17:18 Doc22 then left 17:18 OldCoder Hmm 17:18 Doc22 i was about to clean it up 17:18 OldCoder Sounds resolvablle 17:18 OldCoder *ble 17:19 Doc22 i dont make messes without cleaning them up in minetest 17:19 OldCoder If it was impolite please apologize if she comes back 17:19 OldCoder All right 17:19 Doc22 thats why i came on 17:19 Jordach brb - FOOOOODDD! 17:19 Doc22 not here... 17:19 Doc22 lol 17:19 Doc22 i have done all I am going to do on that song i was working n 17:19 Doc22 on 17:19 Doc22 here it is 17:19 Doc22 http://tffs.castraponere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Monotonous_Perfection.wav 17:19 Doc22 if anyone wants to hear it 17:20 Doc22 its my first song that doesnt make me delete it right away because it sounds like crap 17:20 Doc22 lol 17:20 OldCoder R 17:20 Doc22 r? 17:20 OldCoder Doc22, things improve 17:20 OldCoder R = Reviewing 17:20 Doc22 yeah 17:20 Doc22 oh ok 17:20 OldCoder Doc22, I have seen it again and again 17:20 Doc22 2:10 17:20 Doc22 yeah 17:21 Doc22 i am done with this song 17:21 OldCoder R 17:21 Doc22 there is one spot that doesnt mix 17:21 Doc22 i might fix it 17:21 Doc22 but idk 17:21 Doc22 still have the project file 17:21 OldCoder Downloading 17:21 Doc22 ok 17:22 Doc22 i took out that slow part where it stops for a second 17:22 Doc22 hey 17:22 Calinou hi 17:22 OldCoder Playing WAV file 17:22 Doc22 ok 17:23 OldCoder This is the one from before, right? 17:23 Doc22 yes 17:23 OldCoder Tempo seems a bit faster 17:23 Doc22 i just made it longer and fixed the slow one 17:23 Doc22 yeah i increased it a bit 17:23 OldCoder All right. It's a little snappier. 17:23 Doc22 not as good sound quality with .wav as in the editor 17:23 OldCoder Don't save it as WAV 17:23 Doc22 ogg? 17:24 OldCoder This is a MOD type song 17:24 OldCoder Not WAV OGG etc. 17:24 OldCoder MOD or other module type 17:24 Doc22 oh ok 17:24 OldCoder Many programs can play them 17:24 Doc22 wav is just the kind everyone knows 17:24 OldCoder Talk to RealBadAngel about this type of music 17:24 Doc22 lol 17:24 OldCoder No 17:24 Doc22 ok 17:24 OldCoder WAV is different 17:24 OldCoder This is Tracker 17:24 OldCoder This was his world 20 years ago 17:24 Doc22 i didnt see a .mod file extension for export 17:24 OldCoder Speak to him for advice about getting started 17:25 Doc22 ok 17:25 OldCoder Any module or tracker type 17:25 Doc22 ok 17:25 OldCoder If program does not have it 17:25 OldCoder use a different program 17:25 Doc22 im using lmms 17:25 OldCoder There are many 17:25 OldCoder I should have that but do not yet 17:25 Doc22 its free 17:25 OldCoder Music is O.K. as an early type 17:25 Doc22 yeah 17:25 OldCoder Doc22, there are dozens of free programs 17:25 Doc22 like what? 17:25 Doc22 a few examples? 17:25 OldCoder You are moving into the module or tracker world 17:25 OldCoder Hold on 17:26 Doc22 o 17:26 Doc22 ok 17:26 Doc22 lmms probably has support for mod 17:26 Calinou lol... .wacv 17:26 Calinou .wav* 17:26 Doc22 lol 17:26 Doc22 its what i know 17:26 Doc22 i dont know about sound formats much 17:26 OldCoder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_tracker 17:26 Doc22 I know about code 17:26 OldCoder Read that 17:26 OldCoder RealBadAngel knows one of the people on it I think 17:26 Doc22 and making music in lmms 17:27 Doc22 ok ill read it 17:27 tkln wait what?! lmms is not a tracker! 17:27 Doc22 huh? 17:27 Doc22 i dont know sound terms 17:27 OldCoder tkln, I mean the type of music he should make 17:27 OldCoder Not necessarily what he is doing now 17:27 tkln well okay 17:27 FreeFull lmms is a pianoroll thing 17:27 OldCoder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module_file 17:27 OldCoder Doc22, also read that 17:28 Doc22 reading 17:28 OldCoder RealBadAngel, if you see this later talk to Doc22 about the past and music 17:29 OldCoder http://www.renoise.com/ 17:29 OldCoder Doc22, I have not tried that program but have heard of it ^ 17:29 Doc22 ok 17:29 Doc22 right now i have a really slow pc 17:29 Doc22 so i dont know about installing a new program 17:29 OldCoder http://www.soundtracker.org/ 17:29 Doc22 i am building a faster one though 17:29 OldCoder That one is old and may work for you ^ 17:29 Doc22 ok 17:30 Doc22 yeah irish narrator on the renoise video 17:30 Doc22 WOOOO 17:31 tkln milkytracker is a quite nice tracker. it's free, still maintained and multiplatform. it's mainly an xm trackrer but can do mods and other formats too. 17:31 Doc22 ok 17:31 Doc22 ill look if lmms supports mods 17:32 Doc22 i just started to get comfortable with it... 17:32 FreeFull My problem with milkytracker is that it's not 100% accurate 17:32 OldCoder Yes I just found it 17:32 OldCoder Not familiar with it 17:33 OldCoder Doc22, there are three examples: soundtracker milkytracker renoise plus google free tracker programs 17:33 Doc22 ok 17:33 ruskie gungirl sequencer might be of interest as well 17:33 OldCoder ruskie, shutting down Europe to backup 17:34 Doc22 i just started to get used to lmms that is why i dont want to switch 17:34 Doc22 lol 17:34 OldCoder If it is not the right choice 17:34 OldCoder Then you must switch 17:35 Doc22 lol 17:35 Doc22 i should have researched more 17:36 Doc22 gtg 17:36 OldCoder cu 17:37 Jordach damn, wheres Taoki_1 17:41 mito551 sfan5? 17:41 mito551 are you here? 17:41 sfan5 yes 17:41 mito551 good 17:41 mito551 hi 17:42 mito551 can you help me? 17:45 mito551 sfan5? 17:45 sfan5 yws 17:45 sfan5 *yes 17:45 mito551 will you help me? 17:45 mito551 please? 17:45 sfan5 yes 17:46 mito551 i'm trying to compile mt on windows 17:46 mito551 through mingw 17:46 sfan5 wheres the problem? 17:46 mito551 and i'm getting this: 17:46 sfan5 .. 17:47 mito551 wait a sec :DD 17:47 mito551 Creating library file: ..\bin\libminetest.dll.a CMakeFiles\minetest.dir/objects.a(sky.cpp.obj):sky.cpp:(.text$_ZN3irr5scene10ISceneNode11getMaterialEj[__ZN3irr5scene10I SceneNode11getMaterialEj]+0x1): undefined reference to `_imp___ZN3irr5video16IdentityMaterialE' CMakeFiles\minetest.dir/objects.a(content_cao.cpp.obj):content_cao.cpp:(.text$_ZN10GenericCAO14updateTexturesERKSs[__ZN1 0GenericCAO14updateTexturesERKSs]+0x7b6): undefin 17:48 sfan5 the irrlicht version you're using seems to be too old/new for minetest 17:48 mito551 oh 17:49 mito551 thank you! 17:49 mito551 i have to use 1.7.2, right? 17:49 sfan5 it works with 1.7.3 17:49 sfan5 1.7.2 should work too 17:49 mito551 i'm using 1.7.3 17:51 Jordach does anyone know where to apply textures to a model in blender? 17:51 sfan5 do you use the irrlicht 1.7.3 headers to compile minetest? 17:51 sfan5 Jordach: textures tab on the left 17:51 mito551 and, if this isn't a trouble, could you please tell me (quite briefly) how do you compile? 17:51 mito551 headers? 17:52 sfan5 https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/README.txt 17:53 sfan5 mito551: irrlicht sdk/headers 17:54 mito551 well, yeah 17:54 mito551 i'm using it 17:54 mito551 i downloaded it from this page 17:54 mito551 1.7.3 17:56 sfan5 hmmm, it should work 17:56 sfan5 mito551: mingw version? 17:57 mito551 wait a sec, i'll check 17:58 mito551 kind of latest. installer says 20120426 18:00 sfan5 hm 18:00 mito551 0.5-beta 18:01 sfan5 i'm sorry, but i'm afraid that i can't help you 18:01 mito551 well, this is sad 18:02 mito551 do you cross-compile? 18:02 sfan5 es 18:02 sfan5 yes 18:02 sfan5 http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds 18:03 mito551 what is your main system? 18:03 sfan5 thanks for "reminding" me that i have to do a new build 18:03 mito551 yeah, i know where they are :) 18:03 sfan5 linux :) 18:03 mito551 oh, uhm. you're welcome 18:03 mito551 yeah, that's kind of obvious 18:03 sfan5 :D 18:04 mito551 which distribution 18:04 sfan5 ubuntu 18:04 mito551 ubuntu? gentoo? 18:04 mito551 ok, thanks 18:04 sfan5 gentoo is way to complicated to install.... 18:04 mito551 and then... may i ask you to build one fork? 18:04 mito551 lol, yeah, i know 18:05 sfan5 i will build any fork for you 18:06 mito551 thank you! 18:06 mito551 this one 18:06 mito551 https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/tree/models 18:06 sfan5 someone already asked me to build that 18:06 sfan5 gimme 2 mins 18:08 mito551 probably it was me :D 18:08 mito551 thank you anyway :) 18:10 sfan5 np 18:13 sfan5 mito551: building.. 18:13 mito551 awesome! 18:13 mito551 and i ran into another problem (dunno if i have fixed the other one :DD) 18:14 mito551 C:\Users\Mitori\Desktop\models\minetest-models_sound\src\sound_openal.cpp:27:17: fatal error: al.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. src\CMakeFiles\minetest.dir\build.make:1382: recipe for target 'src/CMakeFiles/m inetest.dir/sound_openal.cpp.obj' failed mingw32-make[3]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/sound_openal.cpp.obj] Error 1 CMakeFiles\Makefile2:89: recipe for target 'src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/all' fai l 18:15 sfan5 you forgot to disable sound OR install the openal headers 18:15 mito551 yeah, the problem is 18:16 mito551 i did intall the headers... as far as i know 18:16 mito551 the openal* 18:17 Jordach Taoki_1 - present 18:18 sfan5 mito551: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-5292476-models-122bf0012c-win32.7z 18:18 mito551 amazing, thanks! 18:18 * Jordach needs to test textures 18:19 Jordach and i9 sneakily wrote for mt in bright red 18:20 Jordach sfan5 - y u pull c55/minetest_game 18:20 Jordach >:( 18:20 sfan5 Jordach: what? 18:20 telek Hey, does anyone here have an idea on why the distance code seems to load blocks way out in the distance? 18:21 Jordach the models is a differet branch in Taoki_1 's git 18:21 telek Even if you have your vision distance set to '5' it'll still show blocks that are like 100+ away from you. But only random segments (be they 'same level' as you, or many units below/above you. 18:30 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi 18:30 OldCoder babyface1031, PM 18:30 babyface1031 hi 18:30 Jordach http://ompldr.org/vZ2J0Zw/testmodel.PNG 18:31 NakedFury can it be possible to have the selection box be the same as the model and not a huge rectangle? 18:32 Jordach ask Taoki_1 18:32 NakedFury are you using windows xp or just a windows XP theme on another newer OS? 18:32 Jordach xp home ed 18:32 Jordach (sp3 w/ full updates) 18:33 FreeFull Woot, 3d players 18:33 FreeFull How well do they work 18:33 Jordach no anims 18:33 Jordach bar "breathing" 18:33 Jordach which is default 18:33 Jordach all of it is smooth 18:33 Jordach FreeFull - go compile Taoki_1's models branch 18:33 * Jordach whips a server up 18:34 FreeFull Don't have time to test it out right now 18:34 Jordach damn :( 18:34 mito551 what is taoki_1's branch? 18:35 Jordach the one sfan5 just made 18:35 Jordach duh. 18:35 mito551 oh 18:35 mito551 ok 18:35 mito551 i thought it was kitsune's 18:35 mito551 so kitsune=taoki 18:35 Jordach 217.43.96.130 18:35 mito551 what 18:35 Jordach 30000 18:35 Jordach thats the server im now testing 18:36 mito551 cool 18:42 Jordach mito551 http://minetest.org/clients/minetestnc-121020.zip 18:42 mito551 thank you 18:43 Jordach non-cached version 18:43 * Jordach put a password on a local world 18:44 Jordach :P 18:46 mito551 is it compiled? 18:46 Jordach yes 18:46 mito551 cool 18:47 mito551 is it being updated? 18:47 Jordach it only works with OldCoder's servers 18:47 Jordach (about 15 to choose from) 18:47 mito551 oh 18:47 mito551 ok 18:48 Jordach mito551 starting world 18:48 mito551 with oldcoder> 18:48 mito551 with oldcoder? 18:49 Jordach yes 18:49 mito551 same ip 18:49 Jordach yes 18:50 Jordach mito551 - technic has music files :( 18:50 mito551 So? 18:52 thexyz OldCoder: i've uploaded all neko's mods to mods.minetest.ru, feel free to rsync now 19:04 Jordach mito551 - should i shutdown the server now? 19:04 mito551 i'm not playing, as you wish 19:04 Jordach okay. 19:04 Jordach at one point i will open it up 19:05 Jordach annnd chrome works again# 19:05 Jordach fu bad image 19:05 mito551 good for you 19:05 mito551 dwarves work so great on this fork 19:05 mito551 thank you 19:14 OldCoder Hi 19:14 OldCoder thexyz, I think I will mirror as opposed to rsync 19:14 OldCoder then I will get all versions and releases 19:15 OldCoder Europe World restarting 19:15 OldCoder Outage yesterday was due to crash at the hot 19:15 OldCoder Outage yesterday was due to crash at the host * 19:15 OldCoder All his VPS went down 19:15 OldCoder We regret any inconvenience 19:30 telek Nobody has any ideas? 19:30 mito551 what's the question? 19:31 telek Chunks are popping up in the client way past whatever the viewing distance you set. 19:32 telek Reproducible. Set your viewing distance to 5 then wander around and you should have some cells either underground or way off in the distance that are visible. 19:32 telek Even without full viewing enabled. 19:32 mito551 do you want to get rid of them? 19:33 telek I'd run into this a long while back, but assumed it was settings on my part, but it appears to be a bug, since it showed up even on a vanilla install with a vanilla conf file. 19:33 mito551 i don't know neither why it hapenns, nor how to fix this 19:33 mito551 and don't even condider to be considerable bug :D 19:33 mito551 but yes, you're not alone 19:34 mito551 i saw this happening as well 19:35 telek It's a rather significant bug since it'll kill FPS on lower end systems, and additionally is probably what screws up the chunk loading when people run into the 'blank wall' issue where the chunks in the direction you're moving aren't showing up in time. 19:35 mito551 oh. 19:35 telek Since I often see chunks popping up everywhere EXCEPT where I'm going and usually far off from any of the directions I've been in. 19:35 mito551 have you tried oldcoders fork? 19:36 telek Nope, got a link? 19:36 mito551 http://minetest.org/clients/minetestnc-121020.zip 19:36 mito551 yep ;) 19:36 telek Source or binary? 19:36 mito551 binary 19:36 mito551 win32 19:36 telek I'm linux. 19:36 mito551 oh, sry 19:38 telek OldCoder: You run into that? 19:39 mito551 i can't seem to find source( 19:39 mito551 maybe you should go with wine? 19:40 telek Already am, but that obviously is not a long term solution. 19:40 mito551 yeah, probably not 19:41 mito551 http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html#SECTION03 19:41 mito551 that seems to be it 19:41 OldCoder Hi 19:41 OldCoder Run into what? 19:41 OldCoder Reading up 19:42 OldCoder I've had problems that may be similar 19:42 telek OldCoder: The viewing range stuff appears to be broken. 19:42 OldCoder Hmm 19:42 OldCoder With my servers and clients? 19:42 OldCoder I'm going to update soon 19:42 telek It's all minetest clients. 19:42 OldCoder I'd like to know which problems persist after tht 19:42 telek Dating back to 0.3 era I think. 19:42 OldCoder *that 19:44 telek I was getting chunks loaded from areas way the heck away from my player position back in march and possibly before. I'd assumed it was due to setting the chunk load ranges up high, but the same stuff is happening on multiple clients with vanilla configuration files and is noticable even with viewing range set to '5' 19:46 telek Also: Is looking down supposed to make everything 'black out'? 19:47 OldCoder Reviewing 19:47 OldCoder telek, I'm not qualified to comment yet but I'll start to track this kind of thing 19:50 telek OldCoder: Thanks. It's possible this is also what's been causing the animal code and other things to crash on me stating so and so animal was unloaded when trying to do movement. 19:53 OldCoder I couldn't say but am willing to help if I can 19:55 telek Besides celeron55 is there anyone knowledgable in the chunk loading code either client or server-side? 19:55 * telek has no idea where to start with diagnosing that problem. 19:55 bulletrulz hello 19:56 telek I'm assuming however that it's a bug, possibly involving 'viewing angles' and that somehow affecting the distance calculations involved, leading to cells that are far away being calculated as close to the player. 20:01 Doc22 heya oldcoder 20:01 OldCoder Doc22, yes 20:02 OldCoder telek, ok 20:02 Doc22 i siad hi 20:02 OldCoder bulletrulz, hello 20:02 OldCoder Doc22, Indeed 20:02 OldCoder Hello 20:02 OldCoder Howdy 20:02 Doc22 hey 20:02 OldCoder How are you 20:02 Doc22 hauw 20:02 OldCoder Yeh 20:02 OldCoder yeh 20:02 OldCoder etc. 20:02 Doc22 im good 20:02 OldCoder All right 20:02 Doc22 how about you 20:02 Doc22 u good 20:02 OldCoder Hmm 20:02 Doc22 gread 20:02 OldCoder Difficult to say 20:02 Doc22 great 20:02 Doc22 awesome 20:02 OldCoder gread? 20:02 OldCoder Ah 20:02 OldCoder Ahsome 20:02 Doc22 typos... 20:02 OldCoder Damn typos 20:02 Doc22 lol 20:04 tkln umm. minetest crashes when i trying to play either single- or multiplayer. http://pastie.org/5389191 this at least happens with the 0.4.3 release and the latest git version. 20:05 OldCoder R 20:05 telek tkin: With or without mods? 20:05 OldCoder Wait 20:05 tkln i haven't installed any mods. 20:05 OldCoder Built latest client? 20:05 OldCoder Using same code? 20:05 tkln yes 20:06 OldCoder I'm staying a revision back for now; using thexyz fork 20:06 OldCoder Bleeding edge may be a bit crashy 20:16 celeron55 tkln: that looks very odd; do you know if you are using some kind of unusual keyboard input things or locales? 20:17 celeron55 also, i see that is irrlicht 1.8 (instead of 1.7), that might have something to do with it too 20:17 telek celeron55: Any thoughts on the viewing distance issue? 20:18 celeron55 yes, there is some kind of a bug 20:19 telek Any pointer on where I should be looking for it? 20:21 LAD hello? 20:21 tkln well i use a custom xmodmap for my keyboard layout. also tried it with standard us qwerty layout with same results. the clients which failed were built from aur. i actually now have 0.4.3 manually built client working. 20:21 telek LAD: Hello! 20:21 LAD hi 20:21 LAD i have a qestion 20:21 LAD is minetest.net working any 20:21 Jordach LAD - do you have hamachi? 20:21 LAD yes 20:21 telek LAD: For future reference, just ask your question and then people will reply when we have time. Asking to ask a question is annoying :) 20:22 Jordach theres your problem 20:22 LAD ?? 20:22 LAD and telek srry and thnx 20:22 Jordach hamachis systems gone wrong and wont load some websites 20:22 LAD will terning it off work 20:22 telek LAD: Np, common question with new-er IRC users :) 20:22 Jordach LAD - apparently not 20:22 telek What's a hamachi anyways? 20:22 LAD hmmm 20:22 LAD its 20:23 LAD a chat thingy 20:23 telek Oh the one that does chat alongside a website? 20:23 LAD that gives u ips and stuff 20:23 Jordach Hamachi: A freeware/paid for professional VPN service 20:23 LAD yea 20:25 telek Oh ok. 20:25 LAD so i would need to get ride of hamachi to fix it?? 20:25 Jordach yes 20:25 LAD darn 20:26 tkln hm, okay, and now after removing ~/.minetest the clients which previously failed are working fine. 20:30 LAD thnx Jordach 20:30 LAD It's working now 20:38 Mikeonline hi 20:39 OldCoder Mikeonline, hi back 20:46 LAD yea it worked 20:47 Octupus Hi 20:52 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=2a497Hom8Gg 20:53 Octupus Hi gloop 20:54 PilzAdam gtg; bye 21:00 OldCoder I will be away for a few houors 21:00 OldCoder *hours 21:00 OldCoder NekoGloop, hello 21:00 OldCoder thexyz, I don't recall if the NekoGloop thread issue is settled; see if the author can be changed 21:01 OldCoder Back later 21:01 Octupus bye Coder 21:05 Octupus Hi sfan 21:06 Jordach night all 21:18 celeron55 http://jarkko1.deviantart.com/#/d5d2l2v 21:18 telek celeron55: That's a real sword, not a model? 21:19 NekoGloop telek: Of course. 21:20 NekoGloop If you read, that was made from base iron ore. 21:20 telek The patterning down the middle of the blade made me think it was a render. 21:20 telek Never seen something like that in RL. 21:21 jin_xi_ nice 21:23 telek NekoGloop: Yeah I'd just looked at the first picture on that link when I'd commented. 21:24 harrison finland looks exactly like the upper peninsula 21:24 telek harrison: Upper Peninsula of where? :D 21:25 harrison michigan 21:25 harrison also, many finns settled there 21:31 harrison maybe "thus, ..." 21:31 harrison we had "finlander" jokes in school 21:32 harrison "What is yellow and has fins? A schoolbus from Eben!" 21:35 Mikeonline does anyone knows what defaultmod initlua nodeupdate(p) does? 21:35 NekoGloop Mikeonline: Falling. 21:36 Mikeonline hm 21:40 Mikeonline iam trying to figure out why the on dig on place of nodeownership works for default mod 21:40 Mikeonline but not for most newer ones 21:42 telek harrison: Hahaha, funny. 21:42 NekoGloop Minecraft technic has a pick that auto-smelts whatever i mine. It's really cool! 21:44 harrison smelts are filter feeders imo 21:45 harrison http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smelt_(fish) 21:45 NekoGloop Haha. 21:48 cosarara97 hi 21:49 Mikeonline hm seems that if someone overwrites the on_place function it cant be overwritten by nodeownership 21:49 Mikeonline is there a way to always chain other on_place functions? 21:52 Octupus NekoGloop,paid or cracked 21:52 NekoGloop Gift card. 21:52 NekoGloop So paid. 21:53 cosarara97 Huh, I cannot answer the stop bots questions D: 21:53 cosarara97 "What is a minetest add-on called?" - Answer: "Mod" - Incorrect :( 21:53 Octupus Cool 21:53 cosarara97 paid what? 21:54 NekoGloop cosarara97: MC 21:55 NekoGloop Octupus: I mostly play technic. 21:55 Octupus O 21:55 cosarara97 Still no luck with the stop bots question... does anyone know the answer? 21:56 NekoGloop cosarara97: Try "game mode. 21:56 NekoGloop s/./"/ 21:58 cosarara97 Nope :( Question changed: "What is the name of the game in reverse?" Answer: "tseteniM" - Wrong 22:00 NekoGloop cosarara97: Try "em etiB" 22:02 cosarara97 oh, this anti-bots plugin hates me, doesn't it? 22:08 NekoGloop Yes. Yes it does. 22:11 jin_xi_ RealBadAngel: you here? 22:14 cosarara97 good night all 22:16 * telek waves. 22:36 bulletrulz HOLY FUCK LOOK AT THE PRICCE ON THESE 22:36 bulletrulz http://www.amazon.com/Hostess-Twinkies-individually-wrapped-twinkies/dp/B0027AR7RU 22:39 Muadtralk ello #minetest 22:39 bulletrulz hey dude 22:39 bulletrulz Muadtralk, look at THE FUCKING PRICE 22:39 bulletrulz http://www.amazon.com/Hostess-Twinkies-individually-wrapped-twinkies/dp/B0027AR7RU 22:40 * bulletrulz still has a twinkie box in his cabnit 22:40 Muadtralk yeah hostess is going out of business isnt it? 22:41 bulletrulz yep 22:41 bulletrulz and i have a box of twinkies IM GONNA BE RICH MOTHER FUCKA 22:42 bulletrulz I WANT 2 MILLON DOLLERS 22:44 telek bulletrulz: Wow. 22:44 telek I could use that sort of money per-twinkie :D 22:44 telek Just produce a dozen of them a year, maybe even put some diamonds in them for good measure :D 22:45 telek minetest-twinkie :D 22:45 telek Now with 98 percent more minerals :D 22:45 NekoGloop telek: Mese flavored! 22:46 telek Twinkies for cosmetic purposes only, do no attempt to eat. Any damage to teeth resulting from ingestion of twinkies is waived by purchaser of twinkie. 22:46 bulletrulz im gonna sell mine in 2 years when there worth 10 millon dollers each 22:46 bulletrulz ill put em in my ultra frezzer locker thingy 22:46 * telek still has a case of Halo 3 Dew to sell :D 22:50 bulletrulz Are you trying to be stupid or does it just come natural? 22:50 bulletrulz * Evil_Eric (~eric@2602:306:2500:4e49:d04d:70af:786f:cb23) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic 22:50 bulletrulz um preety damn stupid why? 22:50 bulletrulz * michealPW (~michealPW@165-154-38-23.ispnetbilling.com) has left #ubuntu-offtopic 22:50 bulletrulz In that case I'll try to not use big words 22:50 bulletrulz ok thnk u 22:50 bulletrulz lol 22:50 bulletrulz XD 22:59 bulletrulz lol 22:59 bulletrulz You can now speak again. Please ask your question, giving the relevant Pastebin URL. 22:59 bulletrulz fuck u 22:59 bulletrulz ass hole 22:59 bulletrulz suck my giant cock 22:59 bulletrulz fuck u 23:03 * telek eyerolls. 23:03 telek There's always at least one, eh? 23:18 KikaRz hi there! 23:18 KikaRz celeron55, why the minetest.net is offline? 23:18 Kacey hello 23:18 KikaRz Hi 23:19 Kacey how r u 23:19 KikaRz hi redcrab, your server still with 0.3.1? or it advanced? i just want to know if you got 0.3.1 or 0.4.1 23:19 KikaRz Im fine thanks 23:19 Kacey either version is sorta out dated now thanks to 0.4.3 23:19 KikaRz ... 23:20 KikaRz Kacey, i got a badful computer, i can't play that versions because i got No OpenGL support 23:20 Kacey ya 23:20 KikaRz if i was having support, i was playing minecraft this time 23:20 KikaRz now i thank to celeron55 that created minetest. *-* 23:20 Kacey change it to direct3d 23:20 KikaRz ... 23:21 KikaRz 0.4.3 dont have support to D3D 23:21 KikaRz but i'll try. 23:21 KikaRz Link please. 23:21 NekoGloop Yes it does. 23:21 KikaRz Minetest.net is offline. 23:21 Kacey how is it offline? 23:21 KikaRz Ups! O Google Chrome não conseguiu estabelecer ligação a minetest.net . 23:21 KikaRz Translated: 23:22 KikaRz Oops! Google Chrome could not establish connection to minetest.net 23:22 Kacey ill try once internet speeds up a little 23:23 KikaRz I got a question. 23:23 KikaRz Hi ecube. 23:23 KikaRz We can load 0.3.1 map to 0.4.3 ? 23:23 Kacey what is your question? 23:23 KikaRz or 0.4.1? 23:23 KikaRz i guess we can... 23:23 KikaRz but not sure. 23:23 Kacey uuuuum i think it can 23:24 KikaRz ok 23:24 KikaRz that's because i built a Fantastic house 23:24 Kacey but what do i know i am just a code monkey anyway lol 23:24 KikaRz uu uu da da... 23:24 KikaRz xd 23:25 Kacey i deleted my 0.3.1 files for 0.4.3 23:25 telek KikaRz: Old maps work fine all the way back to the pre-sql formats AFAIK 23:25 KikaRz Ok. 23:25 KikaRz Why celeron puts musics here http://c55.me/temp/ ? 23:25 telek However terrain may or may not match up, especially with mods. 23:25 Kacey YAY i was right!!!!!!! 23:26 Kacey i am going to get off now 23:26 * telek waves @ Kacey. 23:27 KikaRz telek, but all blocks are ok? 23:27 KikaRz like that white block that appears in creative that cant be destroyed with a iron pickaxe? 23:27 telek KikaRz: So far. My main worldfile dates back to at least 0.3, maybe earlier. 23:27 KikaRz ok 23:27 telek KikaRz: That's only an issue with mods. 23:28 KikaRz there isnt an alternative way to get into minetest.net to download 0.4.3 ? 23:28 KikaRz because minetest.net here is offline 23:28 telek If the mods don't set block settings properly, some may be un-minable. 23:28 telek KikaRz: Hamachi? 23:28 KikaRz Yes, i got :D 23:28 telek You have to disable Hamachi to get minetest.net to load properly. 23:28 KikaRz nope 23:28 telek No idea why, but apparently people hve been having problems all day. 23:29 KikaRz so, before, i was with hamachi, and i could enter 23:29 KikaRz now i cant 23:29 KikaRz anyways 23:29 KikaRz going to disable hamachi 23:29 KikaRz and retrying 23:29 telek As I said, it's a problem with hamachi. Needs to be fully disabled for minetest.net to work. I don't know the reason why, I think Jordach or somebody knew. 23:29 KikaRz Retrying... 5 seconds.... Nothing. 23:29 telek It's been a problem all day apparently and lots of players have been coming on irc to ask why :D 23:30 KikaRz not just today. 23:30 KikaRz but yes, this week 23:30 telek Does: http://5.9.130.165 work? 23:31 KikaRz No, because you aren't on my network 23:31 KikaRz and its totally turned off 23:31 telek Ahh I don't know anything about this hamachi. 23:31 telek Only that it's the source of the problem and minetest.net works fine for everyone else. 23:32 KikaRz ok 23:32 KikaRz why celeron got this? http://c55.me/temp/Nova%20-%20Best%20Of%20Nova%20-%20Back.JPG its hillarious 23:32 telek That IP was the ip to the minetest server, which would at least tell you if the problem was the domain name or the ip address itself. 23:32 KikaRz lol 23:33 KikaRz Oooh... uh lala.... http://c55.me/temp/6238.jpg celeron likes girls. 23:39 Mikeonline n8 23:46 KikaRz Good night 23:46 KikaRz :) 23:58 Kacey wow nobody is on 23:58 Kacey has minetest died already?!?!?! 23:59 Kacey anybody?