Time Nick Message 00:00 NekoGloop OldCoder: sadly, no. 00:00 OldCoder I am trying 00:00 NekoGloop which is why i think using git so predominantly is unwise. 00:00 OldCoder It has its place 00:00 NekoGloop because if something needs to be done... it never gets done. 00:01 OldCoder I don't follow; his commit isn't in his sources 00:01 OldCoder Looking further 00:01 NekoGloop i noticed. 00:02 OldCoder Notice what? 00:02 NekoGloop that his commit isnt in the code. 00:02 OldCoder ?? 00:02 OldCoder Where is it, then? 00:02 NekoGloop here: https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commit/37d6c3a2f19854caf6dfeb352cb9f6c50bb52757 00:02 OldCoder I know that 00:03 OldCoder I mean, if it is not commited, what is the commit? 00:03 NekoGloop i have no idea. 00:03 OldCoder My point is 00:03 NekoGloop github is shitty. 00:03 OldCoder I don't know that that one page 00:03 OldCoder will give you what you want 00:03 Octupus Github is hard 00:03 OldCoder I'll need to talk to him 00:03 NekoGloop which is why i distaste usage of github. 00:03 NekoGloop T_A_N_K_ 00:04 OldCoder NekoGloop, I'll build and merge and so on 00:04 OldCoder But I think I need to speak with him first 00:04 T_A_N_K_ yes? 00:04 OldCoder Hi! 00:04 NekoGloop here he is. 00:04 OldCoder T_A_N_K_, is that one commit... 00:04 T_A_N_K_ yes 00:04 OldCoder all that NekoGloop needs to get the animation thing? 00:04 OldCoder yes? 00:04 OldCoder Why isn't it in the code when I clone? Is there a different branch? 00:05 Octupus Can u do me a favor 00:05 OldCoder Who? 00:05 T_A_N_K_ that's only a commit it's not pushed yet, therefore not in the actual game 00:05 NekoGloop better yet, why isnt it a pull request against minetest proper? 00:05 OldCoder T_A_N_K_, is there a way for me to get that as a diff? 00:05 T_A_N_K_ just copy the numbers lol 00:06 NekoGloop T_A_N_K_: i suggested that already... 00:06 OldCoder T_A_N_K_, are you able to answer? 00:06 NekoGloop OldCoder: he did. 00:06 NekoGloop just copy the numbers. 00:07 NekoGloop It's not like he changed the code at all, just what the code recieves... 00:07 OldCoder NekoGloop, I must decline. If nobody here can answer I will continue to Google. 00:07 NekoGloop well i guess no one will make a windows build. 00:08 OldCoder I will 00:08 OldCoder I just want a diff 00:08 NekoGloop which you -cant- get. 00:08 OldCoder I can in fact get it 00:08 OldCoder There are *two* tools in git for this purpose 00:08 T_A_N_K_ herei s the diff https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commit/37d6c3a2f19854caf6dfeb352cb9f6c50bb52757 00:08 OldCoder Reviewing 00:09 OldCoder That is not a diff 00:09 OldCoder I need a standard patch file 00:09 OldCoder One that can be applied using patch -pNUMBER 00:09 OldCoder I will continue to Google 00:09 OldCoder Thank you 00:09 OldCoder You can produce it I think 00:09 NekoGloop point proven. 00:09 OldCoder There are multiple tools for this purpose 00:10 NekoGloop I'm not gonna get a windows build of this. 00:10 Octupus OldCoder: Seems as if mod didnt update 00:10 NekoGloop the most stubborn people in the world, butting heads. 00:10 NekoGloop that's all that's happening here. 00:14 OldCoder Octupus, checking to see why not 00:15 OldCoder Octupus, I most likely forgot to run one command. This will be corrected now. 00:15 Octupus Ok thanks again 00:16 babyface1031 ty 00:17 NekoGloop T_A_N_K_: how hard would it be to just make a diff patch? 00:17 T_A_N_K_ i don't know 00:17 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am not well and there are other issues. I genuinely need the diff. Also need to know how to do it in general. 00:17 OldCoder Octupus, babyface1031 try now 00:17 babyface1031 ok 00:18 Octupus Gracias 00:18 OldCoder y w 00:18 OldCoder But see if it works before Gracias 00:18 NekoGloop it wouldnt take that long to simply change the numbers in the source to reflect tank's changes. 00:18 babyface1031 works:D 00:19 Octupus :) 00:20 NekoGloop well I'm disappointed now. 00:21 NekoGloop OldCoder is off on a wild goose chase through google, T_A_N_K is not helping, sfan is requiring something that i dont know how to get, and I really want this patch. ;_; 00:21 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am doing what I can 00:21 OldCoder Octupus, babyface1031 glad to hear it 00:22 OldCoder NekoGloop, can he just give me the file? 00:22 NekoGloop It would be faster to modify the source code. 00:22 JangoFett154 VanessaE or redcrab or cactuzPL online? 00:22 Doc22 hey does anyone want to play on a server 00:22 Doc22 with me 00:22 Doc22 ill host 00:22 OldCoder Doc22, there are lots of servers 00:22 Doc22 yeah 00:22 OldCoder You can play with Octupus and babyface1031 here 00:22 Doc22 but probably not with the mods I want 00:22 Doc22 ok 00:22 OldCoder What is your world like? 00:22 OldCoder Have one yet? 00:22 Doc22 im making a new one 00:22 OldCoder Of course 00:22 Doc22 no i dont have one 00:22 OldCoder All right 00:23 OldCoder NekoGloop, can he just give me the file? 00:23 OldCoder I need to rest soon 00:23 Doc22 i just have a list of mods i will use 00:23 OldCoder Doc22, which are? 00:23 Doc22 vines and ropes 00:23 Doc22 bags 00:23 Doc22 mob framework 00:23 OldCoder For vines I need to speak with cornernote 00:23 OldCoder Doc22, review this: 00:23 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 00:23 OldCoder Those are my mods and worlds 00:23 Doc22 ok 00:23 Doc22 thanks 00:23 OldCoder If you wish you can try one of them 00:23 OldCoder One of the worlds is open 00:23 Doc22 ok 00:23 OldCoder No registration required 00:23 Doc22 awesome 00:23 OldCoder OpenMine 00:23 OldCoder Just go play 00:24 Doc22 ok 00:24 OldCoder NekoGloop, I need to lie down for about 5 minutes. Just get him to give me the file. That should be easy. 00:24 Doc22 i just kinda want mods 00:25 NekoGloop wait... 00:25 Doc22 oh 00:25 Doc22 your server has mods... 00:25 Doc22 lol 00:25 * OldCoder is resting 00:25 NekoGloop why would the code detailed in T_A_N_K_'s patch be incompatible with current git? 00:26 OldCoder Who said it was incompatible at all? 00:26 * OldCoder is resting briefly 00:26 Doc22 OldCoder you should add links to the mods on the list 00:26 OldCoder get me the file, which is trivial 00:26 Doc22 just a suggestion 00:26 OldCoder Doc22, I will provide the source code 00:26 OldCoder It is already planned 00:26 Doc22 ok 00:26 Doc22 awesome 00:26 * OldCoder is resting briefly 00:26 * Doc22 is eating tater tots 00:27 OldCoder NekoGloop, ask him for the file; this takes like 5 seconds toget 00:27 OldCoder *to get 00:27 * Octupus thinks it's a good idea coder takes a break 00:27 NekoGloop OldCoder: I'm modifing the git version of minetest's camera.cpp to reflect his changes. 00:29 Octupus Leave the man alone he needs a rest neko 00:30 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzR4NQ 00:31 OldCoder Back 00:31 OldCoder R 00:31 NekoGloop that goes in the src folder. 00:31 OldCoder Link is not loading 00:31 OldCoder Hold on 00:32 OldCoder It isn't being tired, exactly Octupus. My blog explains it a bit. 00:32 OldCoder NekoGloop, wait 00:32 Octupus Ok 00:32 OldCoder NekoGloop, I will attempt a diff now 00:33 NekoGloop is it really this hard to copy+paste the source and put this in there...? 00:33 OldCoder NekoGloop, there are many many differenes 00:33 OldCoder differences 00:33 OldCoder The files are not compatible 00:33 OldCoder Please find me a git person 00:33 NekoGloop between what? 00:33 OldCoder What you posted 00:33 OldCoder and the standard version 00:33 NekoGloop how? 00:33 OldCoder Far more than the changes in the commit 00:33 NekoGloop there are only 6 lines of code changed. 00:34 OldCoder That is my point 00:34 OldCoder What you sent 00:34 NekoGloop I only changed 6 lines of code. 00:34 OldCoder Is not compatible 00:34 OldCoder I know 00:34 OldCoder That is my point 00:34 OldCoder What you sent 00:34 OldCoder Is not compatible 00:34 OldCoder I need to speak with a git person 00:34 OldCoder 00:34 NekoGloop Good luck. 00:35 NekoGloop While i go cry in a corner. 00:35 Octupus Ask celeron55 he is great with hit 00:35 Octupus *git 00:35 OldCoder You know, if he would just push his change 00:35 NekoGloop but he wont make a diff for a patch. 00:35 OldCoder the command gif log -p 00:35 OldCoder will give the diff 00:35 NekoGloop OldCoder: dont tell me that, tell that to T_A_N_K_ 00:36 OldCoder I have spent too much time on this; I will spend more time and build for you 00:36 OldCoder and package and add the preloaded cache 00:36 OldCoder and everything 00:36 OldCoder but get me the diff. or a git person. 00:36 OldCoder Done 00:36 OldCoder 00:37 OldCoder NekoGloop, that sounded too impatient. I am sorry. 00:37 OldCoder But you don't quite understand and there is no point in trying to make you understand. 00:37 NekoGloop We're both being fed up with each other's incapability. 00:37 OldCoder The changes you made 00:37 OldCoder are buried in other changes he made 00:37 OldCoder The file you posted is useless 00:38 NekoGloop OldCoder: not possible. 00:38 OldCoder I am looking at it right now 00:38 OldCoder In front of me 00:38 NekoGloop I changed minetest-c55 source with T_A_N_K_'s patch. 00:38 OldCoder I need the diff. Or a git person. This part of the discussion is over. 00:38 Octupus If coder says its useless then it is 00:38 NekoGloop I only changed those 6 lines from T_A_N_K_'s patch. 00:38 NekoGloop Octupus: But it isnt. 00:38 Octupus He has had more experience in code 00:38 NekoGloop Octupus: But it isnt. 00:39 OldCoder NekoGloop, I believe you 00:39 Octupus Alright no1 listens to me :/ 00:39 NekoGloop hm... 00:39 OldCoder Octupus, of course people do 00:39 Octupus No1 does 00:40 Octupus They are try to break me down 00:40 OldCoder ? 00:40 OldCoder No 00:40 Octupus Except for u and lad and face 00:40 OldCoder more will listen 00:40 Octupus And zilla 00:40 OldCoder The numbers are growing :-) 00:40 OldCoder RBA does 00:40 Octupus No 00:41 OldCoder All right 00:41 * Octupus takes a break 00:41 NekoGloop OldCoder: http://ompldr.org/vZzR4OQ build this. 00:42 NekoGloop I am capable of almost everything. Excluding building C++ source code. 00:42 OldCoder R 00:44 OldCoder That gives me the patch 00:44 NekoGloop The patched source. 00:44 * Doc22 is done eating tater tots 00:44 Doc22 buuuuurp 00:44 OldCoder I only needed the patch 00:44 OldCoder Now I have it 00:44 NekoGloop Now, you have the source to build. 00:44 * Octupus is back 00:44 Octupus Hi LAD 00:44 OldCoder Octupus, hi 00:44 LAD hi Octu 00:44 NekoGloop Simply unzip, add the dll's that are needed, and compile. 00:45 Doc22 Oldcoder 00:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am working now 00:45 OldCoder Doc22 00:45 LAD hmm 00:45 Doc22 i dont really feel like manually installing all those mods 00:45 Doc22 unless there is a pack 00:45 OldCoder Doc22, I don't understand 00:45 OldCoder Those are all on the server side 00:45 OldCoder Just go and play 00:45 Doc22 oh so no client config required? 00:45 OldCoder Nope 00:45 Doc22 yay 00:45 OldCoder We recommend 00:45 NekoGloop at this point... I think I'll just stick with the crap that is in minetest proper 00:45 LAD hey Octu what was that 1 IRC thing that me u and keegan used to be in?? 00:45 OldCoder turn off texture atlas 00:46 Doc22 I didnt understand 00:46 Doc22 ok 00:46 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am proceeding 00:46 NekoGloop Doc22: that is a minecrap limitation. 00:46 Doc22 XD 00:46 Doc22 i love it when people call it that 00:47 NekoGloop OldCoder: ping me when it's done compiling. 00:47 OldCoder k 00:47 LAD nmv i found what it was cald 00:48 Octupus Which 1 00:48 LAD TG 00:48 Octupus OOOOOO yea 00:48 LAD way back when 00:48 Octupus SHUSH 00:48 LAD XD 00:48 LAD join 00:48 LAD do u remeber the thingy 00:48 Octupus (o)(o) 00:48 LAD what it was calls 00:48 Octupus Yes 00:48 Doc22 it says empty passwords are dissalowed 00:48 Doc22 back to reading 00:48 LAD capitle T and G 00:49 Doc22 thanks 00:49 Doc22 so just TG 00:49 Doc22 awesome 00:49 Doc22 thanks LAD 00:49 LAD lol what 00:49 Doc22 for the passwword 00:49 Octupus Your in the wrong 1 doc Lolz 00:49 Doc22 TG 00:49 Doc22 ??? 00:50 Doc22 lolz 00:50 LAD oh lol no 00:50 LAD i was talking to Octupus 00:50 Octupus XD 00:50 Doc22 lol 00:50 Doc22 hmmm 00:50 LAD srry for comfusion 00:50 Doc22 only 1%loaded 00:50 Doc22 its fine 00:50 Doc22 its my fault really 00:50 Doc22 :P 00:50 Doc22 3% 00:50 Doc22 .. 00:51 Doc22 im working on a game similar to minetest 00:51 Doc22 its very early in development 00:51 Doc22 but it has a bright future 00:52 Octupus O cool 00:52 Doc22 with the increasing popularity in voxel based games 00:52 Doc22 I'm taking more of an mmo 00:52 Doc22 direction 00:53 Doc22 only 7% loaded... 00:53 Doc22 D: 00:54 Doc22 once it downloads it once it doesnt have to do it ever again right 00:55 LAD OldCoder when is your birthday?? 00:55 Doc22 ??? 00:55 LAD XD 00:55 LAD i know random 00:55 OldCoder Doc22, Yes 00:55 Doc22 :) 00:55 OldCoder LAD, see me later 00:55 OldCoder Compiling MT ATM 00:55 Doc22 kewl 00:55 OldCoder MTATM 00:55 OldCoder Heh 00:55 NekoGloop lol 00:55 Doc22 minetest ATM?? 00:55 LAD but it take like 10 secs to type it down 00:55 NekoGloop I may finally be able to beat Mari0 00:55 Octupus It's for something special coder 00:56 LAD shhhsh 00:56 Doc22 hmmm 00:56 LAD im cold 00:56 LAD sweter come here 00:56 Doc22 wait so minetest is made in C++ right 00:56 OldCoder Yes 00:56 LAD yea 00:56 Doc22 nice 00:56 Octupus XD 00:56 LAD hmm 00:56 Doc22 i might be able to help 00:56 Doc22 if you want 00:56 Doc22 I know about terrain gen 00:56 Doc22 and such 00:56 OldCoder Doc22, that is good 00:57 OldCoder People will appreciate that 00:57 Doc22 and C++ is the first lang i learned 00:57 Doc22 thx 00:57 OldCoder You will be very welcome 00:57 Doc22 so I can just contribute to the github? 00:57 Doc22 or what 00:57 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am compiling a WinMT with C55 stuff, my stuff, T_A_N_K stuff 00:57 OldCoder Doc22, you'd need to contribute to one of the downstreams 00:57 Doc22 ok 00:57 OldCoder That could be me or thexyz for example 00:57 OldCoder Then things get pushed upstream 00:57 Doc22 ok 00:58 OldCoder NekoGloop, Is *that* satisfactory? 00:58 Doc22 ill work on it sometimes if I have time 00:58 OldCoder Doc22, try out my worlds 00:58 OldCoder Have fun 00:58 NekoGloop OldCoder: yes. 00:58 Doc22 yes its downloading 00:58 Doc22 85% 00:58 NekoGloop i dont remember mario being this retardedly hard. 00:58 OldCoder Doc22, Use my prebuilt Windows client and you don't need to wait for media 00:58 OldCoder Assuming you use Windows 00:59 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is coming along. This build will have everything but LevelDB. 00:59 Doc22 sure beats going through the list "hmm... Let's see. Bobcraft. Download. Copy. Next on the list? 00:59 OldCoder Anaglyphic, Vanessa's filters patch, Jordach apple trees, etc. 00:59 Doc22 I spawned on a random island 00:59 Doc22 with a 1 on it 00:59 OldCoder Doc22, Skyblock? 00:59 Doc22 and a red flower 00:59 Doc22 yes 00:59 LAD coder were u bron 1960?? 00:59 OldCoder Doc22, it is a special game 01:00 LAD born* 01:00 OldCoder LAD, No 01:00 OldCoder Why did you guess that? 01:00 Doc22 what do I do 01:00 LAD i did some math 01:00 LAD was it close 01:00 LAD most likely did the math wrong 01:00 OldCoder Doc22, That one is special. cornernote can explain it. Hold on and I will look for the thread. 01:00 OldCoder LAD, hold on a bit 01:00 Doc22 ok 01:00 LAD ok ok 01:01 Doc22 ill just google "minetest skyblock server" 01:01 Doc22 found a vid 01:01 OldCoder https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest/sky-block 01:01 OldCoder Doc22, see that 01:01 Doc22 watching... NOW 01:01 Doc22 k 01:02 Doc22 sooo laggy 01:03 NekoGloop minetest == lag 01:03 Doc22 im making a sapling 01:03 NekoGloop minecraft == crash 01:03 Doc22 but it doesnt craft it when I click 01:03 Doc22 and I can't build or destroy 01:03 OldCoder minecrash? 01:03 Doc22 what is wrong 01:04 OldCoder Doc22, We need to grant you interact 01:04 Doc22 oh 01:04 Doc22 can you do that? 01:04 OldCoder OpenMine is the only open world 01:04 OldCoder Yes 01:04 NekoGloop minecrash... good one. 01:04 OldCoder I run the worlds 01:04 Doc22 ok 01:04 OldCoder Doc22, are you a lava griefer bad person? 01:04 OldCoder :-) 01:04 Doc22 tell me when I have interact 01:04 Doc22 no im not 01:04 OldCoder Fine 01:04 Doc22 im a builder 01:04 OldCoder Hold on 01:04 Doc22 a creater 01:04 OldCoder What is your nick in the game? 01:04 Doc22 creator 01:04 Doc22 im Doc 01:05 OldCoder Skyblock is special; want to build here? Or one of the others? 01:05 OldCoder it's fine either way 01:05 OldCoder Hold on 01:05 Doc22 i like this one 01:05 OldCoder Coming then 01:05 Doc22 but can you grand it for all of them 01:05 Doc22 so if I want to i can try one 01:05 Doc22 another 01:05 OldCoder Probably 01:05 OldCoder All 01:05 Doc22 awesome 01:05 OldCoder Maybe tomorrow 01:05 Doc22 ok 01:05 OldCoder If you don't lava this one :-) 01:05 Doc22 yeah lol 01:05 OldCoder I need to write a script 01:06 OldCoder To do that 01:06 OldCoder The grant I mean 01:06 Doc22 just what I was thinking 01:06 Doc22 if i dont lava it 01:06 Doc22 lol 01:06 OldCoder You have interact 01:06 Doc22 yeah you could make a special command? 01:06 OldCoder Have fun 01:06 Doc22 thanks 01:06 OldCoder Yes 01:06 OldCoder Changed the time 01:06 NekoGloop may i inquire as to the progress of the build. 01:06 OldCoder So you can look around 01:06 NekoGloop ?* 01:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, Yes 01:06 OldCoder If you wish you may inquire 01:06 Doc22 thanks for time change 01:06 OldCoder k 01:07 NekoGloop ok. I inquire to the progress of the build. :-) 01:07 OldCoder Checking 01:07 OldCoder Just finished core 01:07 OldCoder Now the packaging 01:07 OldCoder This is manual 01:10 T_A_N_K_ peace 01:10 Doc22 wats mese for 01:11 NekoGloop Doc22: pickaxes 01:11 Doc22 ?? 01:12 Doc22 I just placed it... 01:12 Doc22 did I mess it up 01:12 NekoGloop mess what up? the skyblock? no 01:12 NekoGloop just grab a stone pickaxe and dig it back up 01:12 Doc22 ok 01:13 Doc22 am i allowed to go to the other skyblocks I see 01:13 Doc22 with the chests 01:13 NekoGloop yes, but you are not allowed to dig or place there 01:13 NekoGloop do not take from the chests either. 01:13 Doc22 ok 01:13 Doc22 im not a griefer/lava person 01:13 Doc22 :) 01:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am working 01:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, testing new package 01:14 NekoGloop um... i know this...? :P 01:14 NekoGloop oh ok :3 01:14 OldCoder It is to be polite kitty 01:15 Doc22 oops 01:15 OldCoder I will appreciate hearing the new client works 01:15 Doc22 destroyed lava source 01:15 OldCoder It is for everybody 01:15 OldCoder Do I need to revert Skyblock? 01:15 Doc22 idk 01:15 OldCoder NekoGloop, ^ 01:15 Doc22 did I need the lava block 01:16 NekoGloop no 01:16 Doc22 ok good 01:16 NekoGloop if you see a 2x2 block of lava, take a bucket and grab one. 01:16 NekoGloop no harm will be done. 01:17 Doc22 I just destroyed the block... 01:17 NekoGloop you can also dig your number block. 01:17 Doc22 ok 01:17 NekoGloop which will reset you 01:18 OldCoder NekoGloop, the new client says serialization error unsupported NodeBox version server is running different and message ends 01:18 cornernote forum mod - can this be moved to Games thread? -- http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1241 01:19 OldCoder They changed something incompatible 01:19 NekoGloop sounds like a problem with your gamemode 01:19 OldCoder cornernote, can you comment on the above? 01:19 OldCoder NekoGloop, can you comment further? 01:19 NekoGloop try using default minetest_game 01:19 NekoGloop see if it still errors. 01:19 cornernote sec, reading 01:20 OldCoder Tried with minimal; that works 01:20 cornernote OC, whats the question ? 01:20 OldCoder NekoGloop, the new client says serialization error unsupported NodeBox version server is running different and message ends 01:20 OldCoder ? 01:20 OldCoder I built a new client 01:20 OldCoder For Windows 01:20 NekoGloop OldCoder: hm... 01:20 cornernote no idea, never seen that before 01:20 NekoGloop i believe that means that nodeboxes took a crap. 01:21 OldCoder Checking changes 01:21 Octupus What turns off chat on mt 01:21 NekoGloop F2 01:21 Octupus Thanks 01:22 OldCoder NekoGloop, Right now the best I can do is apply that patch to my MT version 01:22 OldCoder C55 version has broken something 01:22 NekoGloop hm.. 01:22 NekoGloop no, because others have run it successfully 01:22 OldCoder Against my worlds? 01:22 OldCoder It's incompatible with the mods 01:22 OldCoder Hold on 01:24 OldCoder Wait; I have an idea 01:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, I know what to try but two people need to talk to me about other matters. I will continue in about half an hour. 01:36 OldCoder 01:36 OldCoder All the worlds are going down briefly. This may happen twice. 01:36 OldCoder Sorry. 01:36 OldCoder Doc22, you will lose connect. Sorry. 01:36 Doc22 its ok 01:37 NekoGloop OldCoder: See if you can get the build to work. if not, try building it without your patches, and just the animation change. 01:38 NekoGloop As for me, I'm off to bed. 01:39 babyface1031 @OldCoder did you shut the server down? 01:39 OldCoder See above 01:39 OldCoder All the worlds are going down briefly. This may happen twice. 01:39 OldCoder Sorry. 01:40 babyface1031 oh sorry didnt see that 01:40 OldCoder k 01:40 Doc22 how long will it take 01:40 OldCoder Not long 01:40 Doc22 k 01:40 OldCoder But may need to be twice 01:40 Doc22 kk 01:40 Doc22 I know that feeling of restarting things 20 bazillion times... 01:40 OldCoder Oh yes 01:40 OldCoder Right now I am waiting for just 2 of the worlds to finish shutting down 01:41 Doc22 kk 01:41 Doc22 oldcoder 01:41 OldCoder Doc22 01:41 Doc22 does minetest have an auto updater 01:41 Doc22 or do you just have to download the next build 01:41 OldCoder Explain 01:42 OldCoder I build it myself 01:42 Doc22 like when a new build comes out 01:42 OldCoder I am that 01:42 OldCoder I make the builds 01:42 OldCoder That is why 01:42 Doc22 do the clients automatically download it 01:42 OldCoder No 01:42 Doc22 ok 01:42 OldCoder I am making a client now 01:42 OldCoder For NekoGloop 01:42 Doc22 awesome 01:42 OldCoder but old clients usually work 01:42 OldCoder Tonight they did not 01:42 Doc22 what will be different 01:42 Doc22 hmm 01:42 Doc22 im using 0.4.3 01:42 OldCoder This version has more features 01:42 Doc22 and it's working fine 01:42 OldCoder Still 0.4.3 01:42 Doc22 ok 01:42 OldCoder This version has more features 01:43 Doc22 what is it 01:43 OldCoder He really wanted it 01:43 OldCoder Busy ATM 01:43 OldCoder sorry 01:43 Doc22 lol 01:43 Doc22 u fast typer 01:43 * OldCoder shrugs 01:43 Doc22 its easy to tell you program 01:43 Doc22 a lot 01:43 Doc22 lol 01:43 Doc22 what is different about you 01:43 Doc22 from other devs 01:44 Doc22 is that you take time to answer teensy little questions from some random guy 01:44 Doc22 on an irc 01:44 Doc22 that means something 01:46 OldCoder Hmm? 01:46 OldCoder Hell 01:46 Doc22 lol 01:46 OldCoder I am in a number of things right now 01:46 OldCoder But focusing on fixing something here 01:46 Doc22 lol i know that feeling bro 01:47 OldCoder Doc22, pick a few more worlds 01:47 Doc22 ok 01:47 OldCoder Wait 01:47 OldCoder Sorry 01:47 OldCoder I can't patch you until you've accessed 01:47 OldCoder Just a minute 01:47 Doc22 ok 01:49 Doc22 oldcoder which cpp files in minetest manage the world 01:49 Doc22 and how do you do thi 01:49 OldCoder All the worlds are coming up 01:49 Doc22 this 01:49 Doc22 all right 01:49 OldCoder We will go over the code with you 01:49 OldCoder Doc22, join here: 01:49 OldCoder #minetest-dev 01:49 Doc22 ok 01:49 OldCoder Nobody there ATM 01:49 OldCoder But come lurk in the core dev room 01:50 Doc22 lol ok 01:50 OldCoder That is where the C++ questions are answered 01:50 OldCoder Everybody please visit worlds 01:50 OldCoder Do they still work? 01:50 Doc22 ok one sec 01:50 Doc22 it says invalid password 01:51 Doc22 WHAT IS THE PASSWORD! 01:51 Doc22 (french accent) 01:52 Doc22 hrmmmm 01:52 OldCoder Doc22, password is whatever you typed the first time 01:52 Doc22 I tried that 01:52 Doc22 it was RT 01:52 Doc22 but now it doesnt work 01:52 OldCoder I can delete you 01:52 OldCoder Exit 01:52 OldCoder Hold on 01:52 Doc22 maybe it was TR 01:52 OldCoder Try 01:53 OldCoder And now I *must* delete you 01:53 Doc22 nope 01:53 OldCoder because pass is private 01:53 Doc22 delete away 01:53 OldCoder Use a better one 01:53 Doc22 lol 01:53 OldCoder hold on 01:53 Doc22 i didnt know that it was for me 01:53 OldCoder It is permanent 01:53 OldCoder Wait 01:53 Doc22 i thought it was public password 01:53 Doc22 or something 01:53 OldCoder Nope 01:53 OldCoder You 01:53 Doc22 that everyone has to 01:53 Doc22 lol all cleared up 01:54 Doc22 wait so did you reset me 01:54 OldCoder Not yet 01:54 Doc22 ok 01:54 OldCoder It takes 3 to 5 minutes 01:54 OldCoder to shut down Skyblock 01:54 Doc22 okey dokey 01:54 Octupus I'm bored 01:54 Doc22 lol 01:54 OldCoder play on your world 01:54 Octupus Coder u can go to server 01:54 OldCoder tell me if it works 01:54 OldCoder ? 01:55 Octupus And put in a commas to change a password 01:55 OldCoder k 01:55 OldCoder I know 01:55 OldCoder but I think I need to shut down first 01:55 OldCoder this world takes a long time to shut down 01:55 Doc22 and about learning how the world management works 01:55 Doc22 I know java 01:55 OldCoder k 01:55 Doc22 but I know enough C++ 01:56 Doc22 to translate between them 01:56 Doc22 C++ was the first lang I learned 01:56 Doc22 but I just decided to switch to java 01:56 Doc22 idk why 01:56 OldCoder ? 01:56 OldCoder Better I think 01:56 Doc22 hmmm 01:56 Doc22 easier cross platform 01:56 Doc22 definitely 01:56 OldCoder No 01:56 OldCoder Yes 01:56 OldCoder Sort of 01:56 Doc22 yeah 01:56 OldCoder JNI is bad 01:56 Doc22 lol 01:57 OldCoder But needed 01:57 Doc22 and JAWS 01:57 OldCoder try now Doc22 01:57 Doc22 im just going to write my own libs to update the client for my game 01:57 Doc22 ok 01:57 Doc22 loading content 01:57 OldCoder k 01:57 Doc22 thanks 01:57 OldCoder Let me know 01:57 Doc22 okay 01:57 Doc22 its working 01:57 OldCoder k 01:57 Octupus XD when 2 ppl have a conversation about code and your just like "Da Fack" 01:57 Doc22 ur awesome 01:57 OldCoder Remember pass and do not share it 01:58 Doc22 yup 01:58 OldCoder Doc22, here is my site: 01:58 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/ 01:58 OldCoder Now looking at NekoGloop's problem 01:58 Doc22 cool 01:58 Doc22 seeking employment 01:58 Doc22 im 14 01:59 Doc22 but Im starting a project 01:59 Doc22 do you make textures 01:59 OldCoder You are only 14? 01:59 Doc22 or music 01:59 Doc22 yup 01:59 OldCoder Sounded college 01:59 Doc22 lol 01:59 Doc22 thx 01:59 Doc22 I like computers a lot 01:59 OldCoder You know C++ at 14? 01:59 Doc22 12 01:59 OldCoder They are going to be glad to see you 01:59 Doc22 I switched to java at 13 01:59 OldCoder Need more C++ 01:59 OldCoder Java has advantages 01:59 Doc22 and started learning game dev 01:59 OldCoder But it was not FOSS until recently 01:59 Doc22 yeah 02:00 OldCoder Red Hat did Iced Tea 02:00 OldCoder That helped a lot 02:00 Doc22 we could work together on projects 02:00 OldCoder ? 02:00 Doc22 yeah 02:00 Doc22 like my game 02:00 OldCoder Trying new Win client now 02:00 Doc22 and minetest 02:00 OldCoder I'll need to rebuild the client again 02:01 Doc22 oldcoder can you give me interact again 02:01 OldCoder Doc22, coming right up 02:01 Doc22 i promise i didnt lava destroy last time 02:01 Doc22 lol 02:01 Doc22 thx 02:01 Octupus When 2 ppl have conversation about code and your like " Da Fack" 02:01 OldCoder LevelDB branch is not compatible with C55 base 02:02 OldCoder Octupus, you are learning as well 02:02 Octupus XD 02:04 Doc22 did the new client work 02:05 OldCoder No but I know why 02:05 OldCoder I can fix it 02:05 OldCoder Starting a build again now 02:05 Doc22 ok 02:05 Doc22 I hate it when you start something hoping it works and it doesnt 02:05 OldCoder Doc22, visit a few worlds and I will patch in interact tonight 02:05 Doc22 and you build it 20000 times 02:05 OldCoder It is fine 02:05 Doc22 ok 02:05 OldCoder Part of the normal process 02:06 Doc22 yup 02:06 Doc22 ((ooh purple flower)) 02:07 Doc22 trying next server 02:07 Doc22 sometimes my head needs a break 02:07 Doc22 from coming up with the frame from my game 02:07 Doc22 and I promised I wouldnt play minecraft when I was upset... 02:08 Doc22 and that led me to find minetest 02:08 Doc22 and learn about the awesome people that make it 02:09 Doc22 hey oldcode can I have interact on 30003 02:09 OldCoder Yes 02:09 Doc22 thx 02:09 OldCoder But somebody needs me 02:09 OldCoder It will need to wait a bit 02:09 Doc22 I can wait 02:12 Octupus TYPOS 02:12 Octupus AHHH 02:17 Doc22 are the servers down again? 02:20 Doc22 ill take that as yes??? 02:20 Octupus :l 02:21 Doc22 oh cool I know web development languages tooo 02:21 Doc22 after looking at your site 02:22 Doc22 like HTML CSS and JavaScript 02:22 Octupus :/ 02:22 Doc22 I don't know if I really need XML 02:22 Octupus :# 02:23 Doc22 I have some command line experience with ubuntu 02:23 Octupus :/ 02:23 Doc22 (old hardcore command line only version) 02:23 Octupus :-| 02:24 Doc22 how old are you oldcoder 02:24 Doc22 im guessing like 40 - 50 02:24 Doc22 from your site 02:24 Octupus :| 02:24 Doc22 since you were proficient in c++ for 30 years 02:25 OldCoder Not C++ 02:25 OldCoder C 02:25 Doc22 lol I program HTML in notepad too 02:25 Doc22 oh yah 02:25 OldCoder Yes 02:25 Octupus :? 02:26 Doc22 so how old are you 02:26 FreeFull HTML isn't programming 02:26 Doc22 yeha its a hypertext language 02:26 FreeFull Javascript is 02:26 Doc22 lol 02:27 Octupus :8 02:27 Doc22 I like electronics 02:27 Doc22 as well as programming 02:28 Doc22 I am what you might call a dabbling electrical engineer 02:28 Octupus :.,) 02:28 Doc22 for instance building cuircuts in electricity 02:28 Doc22 lol are you just going to make smiley faces 02:28 Octupus :3 02:30 Octupus Maybe 02:30 Octupus :P 02:30 Octupus :P 02:31 Octupus :.'l;($/) 02:33 Doc22 O_d 02:33 Doc22 hmm 02:33 Doc22 underscore didng show up 02:33 Doc22 oh nvm :P 02:33 Octupus :: 02:34 Doc22 OMG SMILEY FACE COMPETITION 02:34 Doc22 Look of disapproval ಠ_ಠ02:35 Doc22 your turn 02:35 Doc22 gooooo octopus gimme a smiley 02:36 Doc22 octupus* 02:36 Octupus Huh 02:36 Doc22 gimme a smile 02:36 Doc22 OMG SMILEY FACE COMPETITION 02:36 Doc22 Look of disapproval ಠ_ಠ02:37 Octupus ? 02:37 Doc22 gimme a smiley 02:37 Doc22 if ur gunna make a ton of em 02:37 Octupus I don't do smileys 02:37 Doc22 ok ill go again 02:37 Doc22 Crying disapproval ಥ_ಥ 02:37 Doc22 Twitching eye (e_o) 02:37 Doc22 Kaching! eyes ($‿$) 02:38 Octupus K 02:38 Doc22 Table launching rage! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ 02:38 Doc22 that one made me lol 02:38 Doc22 when i saw it 02:38 Doc22 Constipated face (ﺧ益ﺨ) 02:39 Octupus XD 02:39 Doc22 :D 02:40 Octupus As soon as some1 said constipated 02:40 Octupus U did the face for it XD 02:40 Doc22 its amazing what you can do with japanese symbols 02:41 Octupus Ok c: 02:43 Doc22 wanna play minetest with me 02:43 Octupus Cant 02:43 Octupus iPod doesn't approve 02:43 Doc22 lol 02:46 OldCoder Hi 02:49 Octupus Hi 02:56 * VanessaE peeks in, groans a bit in pain, and flops down on the channel sofa. 02:56 VanessaE if I ever catch the son of a bitch that beat me up, I'll kill him :-) 03:00 Kacey hello 03:00 OldCoder Kacey, hi 03:00 OldCoder VanessaE, hello 03:00 VanessaE hi 03:01 Doc22 ok 03:01 Doc22 i got a server going 03:01 Kacey vannessa me and octu r working on a mod 03:01 OldCoder Good 03:01 Doc22 cool 03:01 VanessaE what's it do? 03:01 Doc22 what will the mod be Kacey 03:01 Kacey makes water currents like in minecraft 03:01 Doc22 and does anyone want to play with me 03:01 Doc22 cool 03:02 Kacey and replaces the default water with kaceywater 03:02 Doc22 which is dynamic 03:02 Doc22 cool 03:02 Doc22 how do you make a mod 03:02 Kacey dedication 03:02 Doc22 im guessing you write in lua right 03:02 Kacey that too 03:02 Doc22 lolz 03:02 Doc22 i can learn if i look at someone elses mods 03:02 Kacey that is what i did 03:03 Doc22 is there a thirst mod 03:03 Doc22 maybe that should be my first mod 03:03 Doc22 if not 03:04 Kacey cool 03:04 Kacey im doing the coding and octupus is doing textures 03:04 Doc22 cool 03:04 Kacey cornernote hello 03:04 Doc22 I made a couple 512 textures but im not sure they are that good 03:05 Kacey cool 03:05 Kacey bbl 03:06 VanessaE evening cornernote 03:06 * Kacey[A] is now away - Reason : shower 03:06 Doc22 lol 03:06 cornernote hi VanessaE 03:06 cornernote hi Kacey 03:06 cornernote hows things ? 03:07 Doc22 cornernote i like your mods 03:07 cornernote thanks Doc22 =) 03:07 Doc22 np 03:07 Doc22 =) 03:10 Doc22 omg 03:10 Doc22 vombie 03:15 babyface1031 night guys 03:22 Doc22 cornernote 03:23 Doc22 can you help me make a mod 03:23 Doc22 I want to know how you would add something like a thirst bar 03:36 Kacey back 03:37 Doc22 kacey 03:37 Doc22 can you help me 03:37 Kacey with what 03:37 Doc22 where do I start with making a mod 03:38 Doc22 and how do i add a sprite like the health thing 03:38 Kacey download infinityproject's modhelper 03:38 Doc22 ok 03:38 Kacey sprite idk 03:38 Doc22 thnaks 03:38 Doc22 thanks 03:38 Kacey np 03:38 Kacey cornernote 03:38 Kacey im making a mod with octupus 03:42 Doc22 cornernote you made the bags mod 03:42 Doc22 how do you change the gui 03:43 Doc22 like adding buttons 03:44 Kacey check the api page 03:44 Doc22 its so long... 03:45 Kacey lol 03:45 Doc22 :'( 03:45 Kacey (hm) 03:46 Kacey i read the whole thing 03:46 Doc22 ok 03:46 Dogzilla131 can somebody tell me how to make a trampoline 03:47 Kacey nope lol 03:49 Dogzilla131 nobody 03:49 Doc22 idk how 03:49 Doc22 i would help 03:49 Doc22 but im new too 03:49 Doc22 :/ 03:49 Kacey google it lol 03:49 Dogzilla131 :) 03:50 Doc22 Oldcoder which lua file is the health bar defined it 03:50 Doc22 in 03:50 OldCoder Hi 03:50 Doc22 or is it hardcoded 03:50 Doc22 Hi 03:50 Doc22 do you know? 03:50 OldCoder Doc22, I will start to answer a number of questions of this type soon 03:50 Doc22 ok 03:50 OldCoder Doc22, the next 36 hours are going to be a bit rough for me 03:50 Doc22 i understand 03:50 Kacey why 03:51 OldCoder Kacey, no big deal 03:51 Doc22 probs lots of codes 03:51 OldCoder Just busy finishing something 03:51 OldCoder Must be done by tomorrow night 03:51 Doc22 oooohhhh 03:51 Kacey i cant wait until 0.5 comes out 03:51 Doc22 yu[ 03:51 Doc22 yup 03:51 OldCoder Doc22, so I will be here tomorrow but will not answer detailed questions 03:51 Doc22 ok 03:51 Doc22 ill let yu go now 03:51 OldCoder Kacey, perhaps you and Doc22 will help with 0.5 03:51 Doc22 yeah 03:51 OldCoder Doc22, I will be here about 3 hours 03:52 Doc22 I just need to understand more about the frame 03:52 OldCoder But will be in a meeting now for a bit 03:52 Doc22 ok 03:52 Doc22 cya 03:52 OldCoder Doc22, you will fit right in with the core devs 03:52 Doc22 good luck 03:52 Doc22 thanks 03:52 Kacey im just a code monkey lol 03:52 Doc22 lol 03:52 Kacey i find code and that is it 03:52 Doc22 i could use some help from a code monkey 03:52 Doc22 to make a mod 03:52 Kacey ok 03:53 Doc22 idk how to register as an item 03:53 Doc22 like for the health bar 03:53 Doc22 how to make it appear there 03:53 Kacey hmmmm let me find it 03:53 Doc22 i saw how to make an image 03:53 Doc22 but idk how to use it... 03:54 hmmmm the health bar is hardcoded 03:54 Doc22 dang 03:54 Doc22 then no thirst bar :'( 03:55 Doc22 unless I make it in the inventory 03:55 Doc22 or something 03:55 Kacey the odds of there being a person named hmmmm are very low 03:55 Kacey c++ 03:55 Doc22 lololol 03:55 hmmmm i plan on doing something like exposing bars via the lua api when it comes time to add armor support 03:55 Doc22 ok 03:55 Kacey ill see if i can read it 03:55 hmmmm hmm 03:55 Doc22 what file is it 03:56 Doc22 I know c++ 03:56 hmmmm what, the health bar? 03:56 Doc22 ya 03:56 Kacey where is all the c++ found? 03:56 Doc22 idk 03:57 hmmmm game.cpp, draw_hotbar() 03:58 Doc22 th 03:58 Doc22 thx 03:59 Kacey wtf? 03:59 Kacey l leaned over and lost connection 03:59 Kacey any way 03:59 Kacey what file is c++ code found in 03:59 hmmmm c++_code.txt 04:00 Kacey where is that found? 04:00 hmmmm somewhere 04:00 Kacey is it on windows version? 04:00 hmmmm the fact that you don't know where it is tells me that you have absolutely no idea what you're doing 04:00 Kacey what folder is it in 04:01 hmmmm src 04:01 Kacey i dont use alot of these files/folders often 04:01 Doc22 github 04:01 Kacey ooh 04:01 Doc22 its ok 04:01 Kacey so i have to get the source code and put it in my minetest folder 04:02 hmmmm if you think you're going to make any progress, abandon all hope 04:02 hmmmm learn how to program first and then come back 04:02 Kacey i can do lua but i want to learn c++ also 04:02 Kacey i can program 04:03 hmmmm writing Lua is not programming, it's scripting 04:03 Kacey i can still program 04:04 Kacey command prompt and programming are possible for me im just slow at it 04:05 Doc22 gtg 04:05 Doc22 bye 04:05 Doc22 cya 04:05 Kacey bye 04:08 Kacey im learning O.o 04:08 hmmmm try writing a hello world program in C++ first 04:08 Kacey hello world program? 04:08 hmmmm if you were learning you'd learn what you need in order to accomplish that 04:09 hmmmm see... you don't know anything. read a book on the topic 04:09 Kacey thats funny im 30 miles from the nearest book 04:10 hmmmm there's the internet full of ebooks. there are tutorials 04:10 Kacey GOOGLE!!!!!!! 04:10 hmmmm exactly, use teh g00gz 04:10 Kacey but what is a hello world program? 04:11 hmmmm use teh g00gz 04:11 hmmmm i am not going to bother explaining things that can be searched for in a fraction of a second 04:11 Kacey i did it came up inconclusive 04:11 hmmmm you suck at searching then 04:11 hmmmm at least look at the wikipedia article on the topic..... 04:12 Kacey cant buy from web... 04:12 hmmmm what...? 04:12 Kacey i cant buy a ebook from the web 04:12 hmmmm nobody told you to 04:12 hmmmm you're hopeless 04:13 Kacey back to programming the web 04:13 Kacey i love trolling 04:13 hmmmm lel this 04:13 hmmmm "hurr hey guys look how retarded i am" 04:13 hmmmm "fuck off, retard" 04:13 hmmmm "haha joke's on you guys, i'm just trolling" 04:14 Kacey even funnier 04:14 Kacey "uuh is my leg supposed to do that?" 04:14 Kacey "do what?" 04:14 Kacey troll face on leg "that" 04:16 Kacey i hate protected websites 04:19 * VanessaE grumbles. 04:27 * VanessaE wanders off to bed. 04:27 VanessaE night all. 04:43 OldCoder night 05:27 GTRsdk Do you think food & eating will be apart of official minetest? 05:34 OldCoder Town Test NPC eats, I think 05:34 OldCoder So why not the player? 05:41 GTRsdk Do you think mobs will be part of official minetest? 05:43 OldCoder I have no position on mobs as of yet 06:18 celeron55 morning! *fries eggs* 06:21 GTRsdk hey celeron55 :D 07:35 OldCoder celeron55, how were the eggs? 07:35 OldCoder Inquiring minds want to know! 08:19 celeron55 well, good enough; i am not at home at the moment and the pan turned out to be one of the kinds i am not too used to 8) 08:23 celeron55 (i like pans that are able to fry things at least a bit, that was one on which things almost levitate on) 09:02 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:24 Calinou hi 10:24 PilzAdam hi Calinou 10:24 Taoki hi 10:30 Calinou https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/calinou_minetest_stuff.html new, compressed background :D 10:32 PilzAdam you can see the tree of the easteregg 10:32 Calinou minetest logo if you go to fullscreen :p 10:32 Calinou there's a white flower near the tree, yes 10:32 PilzAdam btw: "I now run a server! Feel free to join." <- broken link 10:34 Calinou yep, changed the news anyway (moreblocks update) 10:34 Calinou it's been a while since I updated a mod :p 10:34 Calinou s/updated/last updated 11:04 * Jordach shuts avast updates voice up 11:06 PilzAdam somone has any reason to not merge this? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/24 11:20 khor 12:11 OdnetninI ant new notice? 12:11 PilzAdam ?? 12:12 OdnetninI ?? 12:28 rubenwardy hi all 12:29 PilzAdam hi rubenwardy 12:56 rubenwardy any news? 13:13 NekoGloop Meow. :3 13:15 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3281 lol'd 13:17 * PilzAdam is back 13:40 OldCoder Hi 13:40 OldCoder NekoGloop, here? 13:40 NekoGloop yes 13:40 NekoGloop i assume compilation was again a failure? 13:41 OldCoder NekoGloop, not exactly... 13:41 OldCoder I know what the issues are... 13:41 NekoGloop oh? 13:41 * OldCoder writes 13:43 OldCoder C55 base has changed enough that clients built with that must use servers built with that. But servers built with that don't support LevelDB. So that is out until thexyz merges. I therefore tried to build thexyz for you but thexyz requires Boost and MySQL. Those can be turned off but he has not finished the settings or changes to do so. In short: thexyz needs to merge upstream or he needs to finish Windows compatibility changes. 13:44 NekoGloop um... 13:44 NekoGloop I'm fine with not using LevelDB atm. 13:45 OldCoder That is not the point 13:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, today I am here but I have slept 4 hours only and must finish something very large within about 16 hours 13:45 OldCoder My attention will be IRL 13:45 NekoGloop then go sleep. 13:45 OldCoder I cannot 13:46 OldCoder I must work on the large thing right now 13:46 OldCoder If thexyz comes please ask him to merge 13:46 OldCoder Or to remove Boost and MySQL for Windows 13:46 OldCoder Either will do 13:46 OldCoder Then I tell you true 13:46 OldCoder You will probably have a nice client 13:46 OldCoder 13:47 [JJ]Albert One that doesn't end sentences with blank statements. 13:47 [JJ]Albert 13:47 NekoGloop irony ^ 13:47 [JJ]Albert No, joke. 13:47 [JJ]Albert I copied the blank character 13:48 [JJ]Albert 13:48 [JJ]Albert See? 13:48 [JJ]Albert 13:48 OldCoder ? 13:48 [JJ]Albert Er, NVM... 13:48 [JJ]Albert I'm just being silly for the sake of it. 13:48 OldCoder k 13:49 NekoGloop ok... 13:50 NekoGloop let's see, how would i compile... 13:50 OldCoder I promise to do this when the code is merged or adjusted 13:50 NekoGloop well I want the client as it stands from git. 13:51 NekoGloop (with T_A_N_K's patch) 13:51 OldCoder Patch will work with several versions 13:51 NekoGloop no.. 13:51 NekoGloop the code was not changed. 13:51 NekoGloop the numbers given to the code were changed. 13:51 OldCoder Not following; patch can be applied to several versions 13:52 OldCoder I think I am agreeing with you 13:52 NekoGloop ah. 13:52 NekoGloop thought you said it -wouldnt- work with several versions. 13:52 OldCoder Patch will work with several versions 13:53 NekoGloop notice that i am asking for something specific and not getting it. 13:54 OldCoder ? 13:54 NekoGloop I want upstream git with JUST T_A_N_K'S PATCH. NOTHING MORE. 13:55 OldCoder You did not read above 13:55 OldCoder Period 13:55 OldCoder Please read it 13:55 NekoGloop you are insisting on LevelDB. 13:55 OldCoder C55 base has changed enough that clients built with that must use servers built with that. But servers built with that don't support LevelDB. So that is out until thexyz merges. I therefore tried to build thexyz for you but thexyz requires Boost and MySQL. Those can be turned off but he has not finished the settings or changes to do so. In short: thexyz needs to merge upstream or he needs to finish Windows compatibility changes. 13:55 OldCoder No 13:55 OldCoder LevelDB has nothing to do with it the way you mean 13:55 OldCoder I think I see the confusion 13:55 NekoGloop YOU ARE NOT JUST BUILDING THE SOURCE... 13:55 NekoGloop I JUST WANT THIS FOR SINGLEPLAYER 13:55 PilzAdam OldCoder, here is a branch wich is upstrean with TANKS digging animation: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/tree/digging_animation 13:56 OldCoder That is fine 13:56 NekoGloop SO IT DOESNT MATTER IF IT IS SERVER-INCOMPATIBLE. 13:56 OldCoder PilzAdam, He does not need LevelDB but I do 13:56 OldCoder NekoGloop, chill 13:56 OldCoder NekoGloop, I see the confusion and it is fine 13:56 PilzAdam OldCoder, can you build this branch? 13:56 OldCoder PilzAdam, I will try to explain one more time. And thank you. 13:56 * OldCoder writes 13:58 OldCoder I need, for my own purposes, one of two things. thexyz to merge LevelDB and his other patches into C55. Or thexyz to remove need for Boost and MySQL from Windows build. NekoGloop needs less and I can help him. But not today at all. I have slept 4 hours and must finish hundreds of pages of writing in 16 hours. 13:58 OldCoder PilzAdam, thexyz|away ^ 13:58 OldCoder Well, about 90 pages of writing. Not hundreds. 13:59 PilzAdam okay, then write first 13:59 OldCoder Alternative... 14:00 OldCoder NekoGloop says many fine patches in C55 now. thexyz could merge the other way and copy those patches into his version. Or people could give them to me in diff -ruN patch format and I could take care of it. Many good options. It will all work out. 14:00 PilzAdam to xyz master branch? 14:01 OldCoder db_levels branch IIRC 14:01 OldCoder All my worlds will be based on that until C55 has LevelDB 14:01 OldCoder db_backends branch I think 14:01 OldCoder Whatever it is called the branch will not build under Windows 14:01 OldCoder The neko is angry but I spent about 90 minutes last night trying to make these options work 14:03 NekoGloop just... someone tell me how to build minetest alerady... 14:04 OldCoder NekoGloop, I have scripts 14:05 OldCoder My own derivative of the previous Windows cross build framework 14:05 OldCoder It is easy 14:05 OldCoder I will post everything 14:05 OldCoder Maybe you could do your part and help a little 14:06 PilzAdam OldCoder, does this help? https://gist.github.com/4012059 14:06 OldCoder R 14:07 OldCoder PilzAdam, It should be the issue is building under Windows; how does that approach the issue? 14:07 OldCoder *should but 14:07 OldCoder We need... 14:08 OldCoder A way to turn off the use of Boost, MySQL, and LevelDB when the code is built for Windows 14:08 OldCoder Or 14:08 OldCoder A way to turn off MySQL and the missing pieces needed to build with Boost and LevelDB 14:08 OldCoder Either will do 14:09 PilzAdam so you cant build the upstream sources on windows? 14:09 OldCoder No; as has been stated above. The issue is simple. 14:09 PilzAdam ok 14:09 OldCoder It requires Boost, MySQL, and LevelDB. There is conditional code for MySQL. but the conditional code does not appear to work. 14:10 PilzAdam but there are others who can build on win 14:10 OldCoder I have not yet identified conditional code for Boost and MySQL. 14:10 OldCoder I am not following you... 14:10 OldCoder Do these others build thexyz database fork? 14:10 PilzAdam no 14:10 OldCoder it seems highly unlikely 14:10 OldCoder Yes 14:10 PilzAdam but Neko doesnt want it 14:10 OldCoder Therefore I do not follow the point 14:10 OldCoder I am aware of this 14:11 OldCoder I will try to help NekoGloop further tomorrow or Tuesday 14:11 OldCoder I can't spend more time today as there is 90 pages to finish 14:11 OldCoder And if it is not finished... 14:11 PilzAdam if I understand Neko correctly he just want the digging animation 14:11 OldCoder The consequences are somewhat significant 14:11 OldCoder No 14:11 OldCoder That is not all he wants 14:11 PilzAdam better you go to work now 14:11 PilzAdam I dont want to bother you anymore 14:12 OldCoder He stated yesterday quite clearly he will not be satisfied with less than C55 base with latest patches plus the digging animation 14:12 OldCoder I can chat lightly 14:12 OldCoder and be more fulltime again tomorrow 14:12 NekoGloop github upstream plus digging animation 14:12 OldCoder I will be away on Wednesday 14:12 OldCoder ^ yes as I said 14:12 NekoGloop Your other patches were a bonus if they worked 8) 14:12 PilzAdam somone knows a tutorial how to cross-compile? 14:13 OldCoder My scripts will do it 14:13 OldCoder See: the current Windows 30MB ZIP 14:13 OldCoder Works great 14:13 NekoGloop I'm having one hell of a time getting cmake to not bitch at me. 14:13 OldCoder Faster and more stable than standard one 14:13 OldCoder Heh 14:13 OldCoder Kitty now you get the idea 14:13 OldCoder Easy enough to hiss at the issue. Mrowwr! 14:13 OldCoder Try to do it yourself and see :p 14:14 OldCoder If you can wait, like 24 hours, we can make progress 14:14 OldCoder I'd really like to hatch two chickens with one nest 14:15 OldCoder And get thexyz version to include C55 enhancements plus build under Windows 14:15 OldCoder That would be a significant step forward 14:15 NekoGloop i think we all know that thexyz doesnt give half a shit about windows. 14:15 OldCoder I almost got it to work last night 14:15 OldCoder Came pretty close to compiling 14:19 NekoGloop Could NOT find IRRLICHT (missing: IRRLICHT_LIBRARY) 14:20 OldCoder I have all of this part working easy 14:20 NekoGloop that means what? 14:20 OldCoder It already works 14:20 OldCoder Wait a day or two 14:20 NekoGloop Could NOT find IRRLICHT (missing: IRRLICHT_LIBRARY) 14:20 NekoGloop that means what? 14:20 OldCoder You are sort of wasting your time 14:20 OldCoder Oh! 14:20 OldCoder That means you do not have Irrlicht set up properly for cmake purposes 14:21 NekoGloop which i do... how? 14:21 OldCoder I would recommend that you use my framework 14:21 NekoGloop > which i do... how? 14:21 OldCoder By being a patient kitty for, like, 24 hours. Maybe 48. 14:21 OldCoder Then receiving the gift of code 14:22 NekoGloop kitty will not be patient. 14:22 OldCoder or exe 14:22 OldCoder Very well 14:22 OldCoder As you will 14:22 NekoGloop how will kitty set up cmake. 14:22 OldCoder Well as you will 14:22 OldCoder By editing... 14:22 OldCoder A file with a name similar to CMakeList(s) dot txt or dot nothing 14:22 OldCoder Depending on what you see 14:22 cosarara97 Set IRRLICHT path manually using cmake-gui? 14:22 OldCoder If he has it yes 14:23 OldCoder I just edit the file 14:23 NekoGloop I have cmake-gui, I would be fucking lost in CLI. 14:23 OldCoder You will CLI when you are ready 14:23 OldCoder It is not hard 14:23 Doc22 Hey Oldcoder 14:23 OldCoder Doc22, hi 14:23 NekoGloop except for the fact that there is no way to know what you have to type? 14:24 OldCoder Yep 14:24 OldCoder It is to be learned 14:24 NekoGloop BACK ON TOPIC. 14:24 OldCoder And is not hard 14:24 NekoGloop how do i configure cmake to recognize irrlicht? 14:24 Doc22 still working to finish that project 14:24 OldCoder Doc22, Yes 14:24 OldCoder About 16 hours and 90 pages to go 14:24 Doc22 hope you finish it in time 14:24 OldCoder T y 14:24 Doc22 =) 14:24 NekoGloop cmake is retarded as hell. 14:25 OldCoder Yes, actually 14:25 PilzAdam not on Linux 14:25 OldCoder The problem with systems designed to make things simpler is that they are not flexible 14:25 NekoGloop shitnix does nothing better. 14:25 PilzAdam you ever tried it? 14:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, except provide you with fodder for jokes :-) 14:25 NekoGloop Yes. 14:25 PilzAdam how long? 14:26 Doc22 which distribute 14:26 NekoGloop 2 minutes. 14:26 OldCoder Distro? 14:26 NekoGloop because it doesnt install. 14:26 Doc22 hmmm 14:26 OldCoder Boot LiveCD 14:26 Doc22 yeah 14:26 NekoGloop Ubuntu, Arch, etc. 14:26 Doc22 thats what u neab 14:26 OldCoder Puppy Linux maybe 14:26 PilzAdam okay, you seem to be an expert on Linux 14:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, talk to mrtux 14:26 OldCoder He can show you Arch and others 14:26 Doc22 is it an old pc you tried to install it on 14:26 NekoGloop Do i look like i give a flying shit about linux? 14:27 Doc22 no 14:27 OldCoder It is about you 14:27 OldCoder You care about your own priorities. This is fine. 14:27 OldCoder The question is, what will work best for you? 14:28 NekoGloop what will work best is if someone told me i had to click the check box that says advanced to see the IRRLICHT_LIBRARY variable. 14:28 PilzAdam OldCoder, i see you dont care about your own priorities; you would write 90 pages ATM if you do so 14:28 Doc22 some think that ubuntu is better than windows 14:28 NekoGloop (which is a similar reason to why i hate CLI) 14:28 OldCoder PilzAdam, the 90 pages is largely done in draft form. My brain is different. I cannot focus here in chat but I can chat lightly. 14:29 NekoGloop and since shitnix is pretty much all CLI? yeah, no. 14:29 OldCoder I never understood "multitasking" 14:29 OldCoder I can only focus in one place 14:29 OldCoder Period. But part of me can be elsewhere lightly. 14:29 Doc22 Im kinda the same way 14:29 OldCoder Must be common 14:29 Doc22 but I am capable of multitasking 14:29 OldCoder Not sure I believe in true "multitasking" 14:29 Doc22 heavily 14:29 OldCoder Oh? 14:29 Doc22 yeah 14:30 Doc22 but I don't do things as well if i multitask 14:30 PilzAdam humans can not think about more than 1 thing at one time; thats a fact 14:30 OldCoder Agreed 14:30 Doc22 some can if they have a disorder... 14:30 Doc22 i think 14:30 OldCoder Not sure 14:31 PilzAdam you can do many things, but not think about it 14:31 OldCoder yes 14:31 PilzAdam (at the same time) 14:31 Doc22 yeah I guess that is what i do 14:32 Doc22 I have adhd 14:32 OldCoder You do pretty well with it 14:32 Doc22 maybe that is why im a good programmer at 14 14:32 OldCoder Usually opposite 14:32 OldCoder Unless 14:32 OldCoder There is a component of OCD 14:32 OldCoder Or Autism 14:32 OldCoder ADHD will counter 14:32 OldCoder The other two will help; this at least 14:33 Doc22 hmmmm 14:33 Doc22 I know I dont have autism 14:33 OldCoder Note that Autism does not mean Aspergers though Aspergers may mean Autism 14:33 OldCoder Then are you OCD? 14:33 Doc22 but i might have the other slightly 14:33 OldCoder It is consistent 14:33 OldCoder with a young engineer type 14:33 OldCoder If you are social 14:33 OldCoder You are not the other thing 14:34 Doc22 yeah 14:36 OldCoder wb 14:36 OldCoder mauvebic, cosarara97 14:36 Jordach HEY mauvebic 14:39 mauvebic wassup 14:40 Lumpio- aspies, aspies everywhere 14:40 OldCoder ? 14:40 OldCoder I am not Aspergers if that is a reference to the above discussion 14:41 OldCoder Or at least that is not the central issue 14:42 rubenwardy i hate McAfee 14:43 NekoGloop fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'irrTypes.h': No such file or directory 14:43 Lumpio- aspies, aspies everywhere 14:44 NekoGloop OldCoder: know what this means: fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'irrTypes.h': No such file or directory ? 14:44 OldCoder Yes 14:44 OldCoder You need the Irrlicht header files and library file(s) installed. 14:44 NekoGloop know how to fix it? 14:45 OldCoder Yes 14:45 OldCoder Use my framework 14:45 * OldCoder sighs 14:45 OldCoder Or... 14:45 OldCoder Download the Windows Irrlicht dot-A file and the associated header files. Then edit the cmake configuration file to reflect the locations of those files. 14:45 OldCoder Or dot-DLL file. 14:45 OldCoder Instead of dot-A file. 14:46 OldCoder Whatever. 14:46 OldCoder Better yet... 14:46 OldCoder Don't compile under Windows. 14:46 OldCoder Friends don't let friends compile under Windows. 14:46 OldCoder Windows is Sindows. 14:46 mauvebic lol one of my mods dont even work under windows 14:46 NekoGloop and your poems are getting annoying. 14:46 OldCoder Might be correctable 14:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, you know that I rhymes all the times 14:47 OldCoder it is a coping mechanism 14:47 OldCoder You have your meow 14:47 OldCoder I have my rhythm 14:47 OldCoder Ought you criticize me? 14:47 rubenwardy #include 14:47 rubenwardy irrlicht and C+ 14:47 OldCoder ^ yes but he must c how to make cmake work 14:47 rubenwardy sorry 14:48 rubenwardy irrlicht and C++ are like my mother: fussy other how I say stuff 14:48 * OldCoder laughs out loud 14:48 OldCoder Irrlicht to developer: Put on your galoshes! 14:48 mauvebic ruben, you know how to patch tiles.cpp to load more textures ingame? 14:49 NekoGloop does there even slightly need to be this much crap? 14:49 OldCoder Dogzilla131, hi 14:49 rubenwardy i have no idea how minetest works 14:49 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is an argument for switching to C and a different build mechanism 14:49 rubenwardy i would guess it is a define in define.h 14:49 mauvebic me neither, every file links to every other file lol 14:49 Dogzilla131 hi everybody 14:50 mauvebic i can call a python script from the chat console but i cant use the image it makes lol 14:50 * VanessaE peeks in for a few. 14:50 VanessaE boo. 14:50 OldCoder VanessaE, hi 14:50 NekoGloop VanessaE: got the slightest idea how to fix this: fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'irrTypes.h': No such file or directory ? 14:50 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 14:50 VanessaE no clue, neko. 14:50 NekoGloop ha. 14:51 VanessaE I don't know how building on Windows works. 14:51 NekoGloop well since the minetest community obviously doesnt give a shit about people who actually have a problem, I'm not surprised. 14:51 mauvebic ? 14:51 VanessaE now now, neko 14:51 VanessaE not all of us are windows geeks :-) 14:52 OldCoder meow meow, neko :p 14:52 mauvebic explain cuz i dont get it 14:52 OldCoder It will be fine 14:52 VanessaE mauvebic: nice to see you on channel again. 14:52 OldCoder mauvebic you were the bus driver; is this correct? 14:52 mauvebic yes and yes 14:52 OldCoder It will be finetest 14:52 PilzAdam VanessaE, maybe your video filters make it upstream if you remove the things from the GUI 14:52 mauvebic or hello and yes 14:52 babyface1031 once you pick a apple do they grown back or do you have to replant the tree 14:52 VanessaE PilzAdam: won't happen. 14:52 OldCoder mauvebic, I am pleased to see you again 14:53 OldCoder VanessaE, you are in thexyz fork and mine 14:53 jin_xi NekoGloop: do you have the dev files (headers) for irrlicht installed? 14:53 VanessaE I put them in the GUI because it's stupid to require editing the config for such basic settings. 14:53 NekoGloop jin_xi: where do i get those. 14:53 mauvebic ive been sick all of last week so i got nothing done except crapy xmas spotlights lol 14:53 rubenwardy yay or neigh: LUA scripting to load the main menu 14:53 OldCoder Why not? 14:53 PilzAdam babyface1031, default apples? 14:53 jin_xi NekoGloop: you're on windows, right? 14:53 NekoGloop rubenwardy: unless you have a good reason. 14:53 rubenwardy yay or neigh means would you like that or not. 14:53 NekoGloop jin_xi: duh. 14:53 NekoGloop rubenwardy: i know 14:54 babyface1031 i think the ones that grow from the saplings 14:54 NekoGloop but if you dont have a good reason, I say neigh. 14:54 rubenwardy Would be good for Jeija's Mod Manager: would not have to do all that C++ stuff 14:54 PilzAdam babyface1031, you have to replant the tree 14:54 VanessaE babyface1031: apples don't regrow unless you chop the tree down and replant it, then they might. 14:54 babyface1031 ok ty 14:54 OldCoder We need to fix the floating apples 14:54 VanessaE OldCoder: +1 14:54 OldCoder I think Jordach said they could be made to fall 14:54 mauvebic found a wicked bug in the engine this week lol 14:54 NekoGloop OldCoder: realtest does so. 14:54 OldCoder Ah 14:55 VanessaE mauvebic: what" 14:55 VanessaE ? 14:55 mauvebic whenever i make cones with desert_stone, the mapgen kicks in and dumps grass and trees on it, but only with desert_stone 14:55 jin_xi NekoGloop: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/downloads um, here? 14:55 NekoGloop i have that. 14:56 mauvebic yours does that too? 14:56 VanessaE PilzAdam: in fact, not only won't it happen, I plan to add a few more settings to the GUI. There's NO REASON for the Settings Menu tab to remain so barren while at the same time leaving such fundamental gfx settings only in the config. 14:56 jin_xi ok, then make sure your ide knows where to look for headers 14:57 NekoGloop jin_xi: the what with the what? 14:57 NekoGloop at least minecraft doesnt make you go through all this shit to play the latest version. 14:57 OldCoder VanessaE, how tired are you? 14:57 VanessaE sorry if celeron55 doesn't like the idea, but it's stupid to waste screen space :-) 14:57 VanessaE OldCoder: getting better, but still quite tired. 14:57 jin_xi NekoGloop: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/example001.html 14:57 OldCoder I see 14:58 babyface1031 @Dogzilla131 are you able to get on the server? 14:58 OldCoder Is there an issue? 14:58 NekoGloop jin_xi: so unhelpful. 14:58 babyface1031 i locked up and now cant get back in i was going to see if it was just me before i bothered you 14:59 OldCoder Reviewing 14:59 OldCoder No sign of a crash. If it has locked up that is not good. Can't have that. 15:00 OldCoder This would be about the third time. 15:00 OldCoder Reviewing further. 15:00 babyface1031 i was makeing a green glass floor before it kicked me 15:00 OldCoder Reviewing further. 15:00 babyface1031 and i was the only one on so ...... 15:00 OldCoder This will take a couple of minutes 15:01 babyface1031 ok 15:01 OldCoder This may be the network code 15:01 OldCoder celeron55 showed me the part that's a problem 15:01 OldCoder A bit of work there may fix quite a bit 15:01 jin_xi NekoGloop: If your IDE is Visual Studio .NET, select Tools -> Options. Select the projects entry and then select VC++ directories. Select 'show directories for include files' in the combo box, and add the include directory of the irrlicht engine folder to the list of directories. 15:02 OldCoder babyface1031, I am restarting that world 15:02 babyface1031 ok 15:02 mauvebic is this in the latest git? (https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/41c00e87d42580881d8c7001f39014814e3b55f2) 15:03 NekoGloop its building! :D 15:03 OldCoder Good 15:03 babyface1031 up i am logging in now 15:03 babyface1031 it is loading 15:03 NekoGloop or at least not crapping out millions of errors. 15:04 NekoGloop I told cmake the wrong path for IRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR 15:04 OldCoder That can be fixed 15:05 NekoGloop i just fixed it. :3 15:05 OldCoder Good 15:05 Dogzilla131 no i cant get in either 15:05 OldCoder Checking 15:06 OldCoder Restarting again and will review low level logs as I do 15:06 OldCoder The debug.txt file 15:06 NekoGloop we should be able to have nodes that fall up. 15:07 OldCoder Heh 15:07 babyface1031 i wonder if it is the new green glass 15:07 OldCoder Antigravity 15:07 OldCoder babyface1031, if so I can revert 15:07 OldCoder babyface1031, world restarted again 15:07 OldCoder See what happens 15:07 babyface1031 ok 15:08 OldCoder 15:08:09: INFO[ServerThread]: WARNING: active block modifiers took 340ms (longer than 200ms) 15:08 OldCoder I'm getting a lot of messages like that 15:08 OldCoder Sounds pretty slow 15:08 OldCoder If still locked out 15:08 OldCoder I will revert the new blocks mod 15:09 OldCoder and see what happens 15:09 mauvebic comment out some abms 15:09 OldCoder I have a backup from yesterday BTW 15:09 OldCoder babyface1031, status? 15:09 babyface1031 i am in 15:09 NekoGloop you, sir, have too many abms. 15:09 OldCoder Suggestions are welcome; this is Octupus world 15:09 OldCoder It may be his new blocks 15:12 Dogzilla131 im in too 15:12 OldCoder See if the problem returns 15:12 OldCoder That took way too long 15:12 OldCoder Maybe I should revert to backup and remove the mod 15:12 Doc22 oldcoder im getting an error in minetest 15:12 Doc22 it says this: 15:12 OldCoder Doc22, go on 15:13 Doc22 error in function "on_step" 15:13 Doc22 or something like that 15:13 OldCoder Which world? 15:13 Doc22 in my client 15:13 Doc22 im playing with my brother 15:13 OldCoder Single user? 15:13 OldCoder No 15:13 OldCoder Which world? 15:13 OldCoder Doc22, ^ 15:13 Doc22 ??? 15:13 OldCoder Where are you playing? 15:14 Doc22 on my own world with my brother 15:14 OldCoder Single user? 15:14 OldCoder Or you made a server? 15:14 Doc22 no we are both playing on it 15:14 OldCoder This is a world of yours on a server that you are running? 15:14 Doc22 it happens when he takes a step 15:14 OldCoder This is a world of yours on a server that you are running? 15:14 Doc22 no I went to advanced->create world->run 15:14 Doc22 and he joined 15:14 OldCoder Doc22, excuse my repeated question... 15:15 Doc22 my client which is hosting it 15:15 Doc22 lol its ok 15:15 OldCoder Are you in single user or multi user mode? 15:15 Doc22 multi 15:15 OldCoder Very well 15:15 Doc22 my brother is playing.... 15:15 OldCoder Where is the server located? 15:15 Doc22 my pc 15:15 Doc22 i run the client 15:15 Doc22 as the server 15:15 Doc22 and i play on the "server" 15:15 OldCoder Doc22, what client? Where did you get it 15:15 OldCoder ? 15:16 Doc22 i downloaded from main site 15:16 Doc22 and ran /bin/minetest.exe 15:16 OldCoder And you have started a world 15:16 Doc22 uues 15:16 Doc22 yes 15:16 OldCoder Doc22, I may comment if I build a new Windows EXE and have you try it 15:16 Doc22 what 15:16 OldCoder I can't comment on the version that you are presently running 15:16 Doc22 i havent tried it 15:16 Doc22 ok 15:17 Doc22 sure 15:17 Doc22 so i just paste it into bin and run it 15:17 OldCoder Doc22, is this a bleeding edge or older version? How is it dated? 15:17 Doc22 ots 0.4.3 15:17 Doc22 its* 15:17 OldCoder Yes 15:17 OldCoder But built when? And where did the minetest_game part come from? 15:17 Doc22 i downloaded it yesterday morning 15:17 OldCoder Doc22, do you have a link? 15:18 Doc22 it was in the bin folder 15:18 OldCoder The exact link 15:18 Doc22 http://minetest.net/download.php 15:18 Doc22 and the file is 15:18 Doc22 https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.3-win32.zip 15:18 OldCoder Hmm 15:18 OldCoder Built when? Hold on 15:19 OldCoder Doc22, is your world based on minimal or minetest_game ? 15:19 Doc22 1 min 15:20 Doc22 heres what i see in console 15:20 Doc22 Server gameid="minetest" 15:20 Doc22 it seems to be working 15:20 Doc22 all i did is try starting it again 15:20 Doc22 the first 2 times it messed up 15:20 Doc22 3rd works? 15:21 OldCoder Doc22, how did you create this world? 15:21 NekoGloop minetest... is... running... 15:21 OldCoder Is it based on minimal or minetest_game? 15:21 Doc22 i think minetest_game 15:21 OldCoder NekoGloop, this... is... Sparta 15:21 PilzAdam NekoGloop, you compiled on windows? 15:21 Doc22 but i forget 15:21 NekoGloop Yes. Yes i did. 15:21 Doc22 it seems to be working 15:21 Doc22 now 15:21 OldCoder Doc22, where did you obtain the minetest_game? Do you have a link? 15:21 OldCoder Fine 15:21 Doc22 i tried restarting it again 15:21 Doc22 what 15:21 PilzAdam NekoGloop, with TANKs animation? 15:22 NekoGloop lag. lag. lag. lag. 15:22 Doc22 i just downloaded the zip here https://github.com/downloads/celeron55/minetest/minetest-0.4.3-win32.zip 15:22 OldCoder Never mind 15:22 OldCoder Reviewing 15:22 Doc22 and ran the exe i found in the bin folder 15:22 Doc22 oh ok 15:22 NekoGloop PilzAdam: forgot to add that, but I am able to re-build. 15:22 Kacey hello 15:22 OldCoder So it is not based on minetest_game 15:22 OldCoder Kacey, hi 15:22 PilzAdam NekoGloop, does it only lag in your build? 15:22 Kacey ho w is it going oldcoder 15:22 OldCoder Fine t y 15:22 Kacey yw 15:22 NekoGloop yeah but i forgot to disable all the fancy crap. 15:22 NekoGloop :P 15:23 OldCoder Not so easy kitty is it 15:23 OldCoder :p back 15:23 NekoGloop that and minetest generally lags immediatly after world-gen. 15:23 Kacey i want to learn how to build minetest 15:23 OldCoder Kacey, do you have Linux? 15:23 Doc22 wait a sec 15:23 Kacey no 15:23 Doc22 i found the problem source 15:23 OldCoder Kacey, get Linux 15:24 OldCoder Doc22, yes? 15:24 Doc22 i downloaded simplemobs 15:24 OldCoder Ah 15:24 OldCoder mod 15:24 OldCoder mob mod 15:24 Doc22 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3063 15:24 OldCoder mo{b,d} 15:24 OldCoder yes 15:24 OldCoder CPU death 15:24 OldCoder x_x 15:24 Doc22 when i hit a dirt monster 15:24 Doc22 it says that error 15:24 OldCoder Very well 15:24 Kacey i cannot buy anything right now 15:24 OldCoder Kacey, Linux is 100% free 15:24 Doc22 so i remove the mod.... 15:24 Doc22 i guess 15:24 Kacey ? 15:25 OldCoder Kacey, there is nothing to buy 15:25 Doc22 i downloaded simple mobs http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3063 15:25 NekoGloop I didnt say to "build with lag" you crappy piece of software. 15:25 Doc22 and it messed up 15:25 PilzAdam Doc22, simple mobs does not work with 0.4.3 stable 15:25 Doc22 :'( 15:25 Kacey besides this isnt my computer 15:25 Doc22 oh ok 15:25 Doc22 lol 15:25 OldCoder Kacey, back at your father's again? 15:25 OldCoder Kacey, You can build MT under both Linux and Windows 15:25 Kacey no im in la junta at my old babysitter's house 15:25 OldCoder Give it time and it will work out 15:25 Doc22 im just going through mods list "hmm lets see. That sounds fun, download, pasted, next mod..." 15:25 Kacey well i want to learn in windows 15:25 OldCoder Doc22, that is not advisable 15:26 OldCoder Kacey, Poor choice 15:26 Doc22 lol 15:26 Doc22 ikr 15:26 Doc22 i downloaded like 15 mods.... 15:26 OldCoder Kacey, you are old enough to be a coder. Get Linux when you can. 15:26 Kacey this computer runs windows 7 15:26 OldCoder It can run Linux too 15:26 Doc22 I DONT HAVE THE TIME TO LOOK AT EACH MOD I DOWNLOAD 15:26 OldCoder Doc22, uh... do you wish the game to work? 15:26 Doc22 XD 15:26 Doc22 yus 15:26 Kacey i know windows xp inside and out 15:26 OldCoder Very well 15:26 OldCoder Kacey, all right 15:26 Doc22 I removed the mod that messes up 15:27 OldCoder good luck 15:27 Doc22 oh lol 15:27 Kacey i even made a superior version of xp that kicks all other os' a** 15:27 OldCoder Go on 15:27 Doc22 im an xp junkie too 15:27 OldCoder That sounds interesting 15:27 Doc22 XP!!!! 15:27 Kacey essentially i took out system32 15:27 Doc22 the probs with vista...l 15:27 OldCoder XP You See Is Right For You and Me XP My Love Peaceful as a Dove XP 15:28 Doc22 crappy architecture in vista 15:28 OldCoder No system32 what did you do 15:28 Doc22 windows 7 just doesnt have as much power 15:28 Doc22 for customization 15:28 Kacey long process on the rest 15:28 NekoGloop hrm... 15:28 Kacey so many patches from an old mac computer and a little linux 15:29 NekoGloop why... is... mine...test.... so ...laggy...! 15:29 Doc22 ok 15:29 Doc22 simple mobs is gone 15:29 Doc22 now for.... 15:29 Kacey i don't (crash) 15:29 OldCoder NekoGloop, It is nice and fast for me 15:29 Doc22 MOB Framework!!! 15:30 OldCoder NekoGloop, use a real compiler to build it 15:30 OldCoder And good settings 15:30 OldCoder And so on 15:30 OldCoder In short 15:30 NekoGloop and... why... is... there.... no... minetest....conf.... 15:30 Kacey compiler? 15:30 OldCoder Build under Linux 15:30 NekoGloop OldCoder: I used MSVC++10 15:30 OldCoder Kacey, the compiler is the program that takes C++ code and makes an EXE 15:30 Kacey i need a compiler 15:30 PilzAdam NekoGloop, the minetest.conf appears after first time exiting minetest 15:30 OldCoder NekoGloop, I rest my case 15:30 OldCoder Kacey, it is 100% for Linux 15:30 NekoGloop PilzAdam: I've exited minetest 3 times now. 15:31 OldCoder *100% free for Linux 15:31 Kacey ok going to find one if not convert it 15:31 PilzAdam NekoGloop, press F5 in the directory 15:31 OldCoder Kacey, If you wish, search for MinGW 15:31 Kacey i have the google 15:31 Kacey free windows compiler software download 15:32 OldCoder MinGW ? 15:32 Kacey ill search that next 15:33 Kacey lol the full name of it 15:34 rubenwardy (3:28:18 PM) Doc22: windows 7 just doesnt have as much power 15:34 rubenwardy (3:28:24 PM) Doc22: for customization 15:34 rubenwardy You would be surprised. There is lots of Registery settings 15:34 rubenwardy and you could replace the entire explorer.exe 15:34 Kacey rubenwardy half of them are pretty much impossible to change/get to 15:35 rubenwardy regedit? 15:35 Kacey ? 15:35 rubenwardy it is a program that edits registery 15:35 Kacey ooh 15:36 rubenwardy Go to run, type "regedit.exe" 15:36 Kacey well im no good with 7 so.... 15:36 rubenwardy yeah 15:36 rubenwardy XP is still pretty solid 15:36 rubenwardy but it is no Linux 15:36 Kacey like a rock 15:37 Kacey at least windows me is dead 15:37 rubenwardy true 15:37 NekoGloop linux is crap 15:37 Kacey my friend has an old laptop that runs wme 15:37 OldCoder NekoGloop, you will Linux one day and love it 15:38 NekoGloop nope. 15:38 OldCoder Windows fades away; what are your choices? 15:38 OldCoder You will have Mac or Linux 15:38 Kacey or sos 15:38 OldCoder and a melting puddle on the floor known as Windows 15:38 NekoGloop stay with the windows i have installed. 15:38 * OldCoder laughs 15:38 NekoGloop winXP. 15:38 OldCoder Sure, you'll do that 15:38 OldCoder Now that MS has killed XP 15:38 OldCoder Or is desperate to do so 15:38 Kacey SOS kicks rear 15:39 OldCoder Then I should try it 15:39 NekoGloop i have an install disk of WinXP, IE7, Office 07. 15:39 OldCoder All right 15:39 OldCoder In God's sight, all is well 15:39 OldCoder Ring the bell 15:39 OldCoder You have the hell 15:39 rubenwardy IE7: ew 15:39 OldCoder of Windows 7 15:40 Kacey google chrome now that is awesome 15:40 rubenwardy IE9 "smoked the competition": it crashed and burnt 15:40 NekoGloop this channel should be called #linux-cave 15:40 Kacey how do i download MinGW 15:40 Jordach NekoGloop to #windows ! 15:41 NekoGloop Jordach: no 15:41 Kacey got it 15:42 rubenwardy i am actually using Win7 now] 15:42 Kacey same here 15:42 Kacey crap i have to redownload it 15:44 rubenwardy OldCoder: i spend an hour trying to work out why my javascript does not work, it turns out i spelt "gallery" wrong. Bah 15:44 OldCoder Hi 15:44 OldCoder Too bad 15:44 OldCoder Could have been worse 15:44 rubenwardy i dont like mistakes like that 15:45 OldCoder Good 15:45 OldCoder Best to dislike them 15:45 rubenwardy yeah 15:45 OldCoder If you liked mistakes 15:45 OldCoder where would that leave you? 15:45 Kacey could have had a spasm all over the keyboard 15:45 Kacey using windows 7 15:47 Kacey downloading 15:49 Kacey ... 15:49 Kacey ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!!! 15:50 rubenwardy dah de dah duh 15:50 * Kacey actually sang the song 15:54 Kacey me (~troll@Troll.net) Quit (Quit: Trolling. ) 15:54 Kacey fraking fail 15:56 Dogzilla131 baby face did the server shut down 15:57 babyface1031 i think it crash again i just got back to the computer and couldnt do anything 15:57 OldCoder babyface1031, Checking 15:57 OldCoder I think I will revert to backup 15:57 babyface1031 ok 15:57 OldCoder Yes; we better 15:57 Kacey the server just crashes randomly 15:57 OldCoder 30004? 15:57 OldCoder We are reverting 15:58 Kacey nooooo dont revert!!!!!!! 15:58 OldCoder Sorry 15:58 OldCoder Little choice 15:58 Kacey how long back? 15:58 OldCoder The world is sick 15:58 OldCoder Yesterday 15:58 Kacey ooh i can live with that 15:58 OldCoder :-) 15:59 Kacey as long as it isnt a week back im good 15:59 babyface1031 i can live with any set back i love this server and the mods :D 16:00 Kacey im gonna make a bot 16:00 babyface1031 and talking of mods i cant wait for the next update to MV of RealBadAngel i love her mods 16:03 NekoGloop her? 16:03 NekoGloop lol? 16:05 OldCoder babyface1031, Kacey try it 16:05 babyface1031 ok 16:05 Kacey im busy making a bot 16:05 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is a manner of speaking 16:06 OldCoder babyface1031, I have reverted both the blocks mod and the world 16:06 OldCoder We will debug this step by step 16:07 babyface1031 i am in 16:07 OldCoder k 16:10 Kacey i give up on it 16:12 OldCoder Kacey, try again later 16:12 Kacey how do i run MinGW 16:13 OldCoder cc hello.c 16:13 OldCoder Don 16:13 OldCoder Done 16:13 OldCoder Or gcc hello.c 16:13 OldCoder Give it time to learn 16:13 Kacey where 16:13 OldCoder ? 16:13 Kacey do i use cmd to do that 16:13 OldCoder yes 16:13 Kacey ok 16:14 Kacey it doesnt work 16:14 OldCoder Kacey, did you install MinGW? 16:15 Kacey i am pretty sure 16:15 OldCoder Apparently not 16:15 OldCoder But do not give up 16:15 Kacey it is traking forever 16:15 OldCoder What is? 16:15 Kacey the download 16:15 OldCoder It will, yes 16:15 Kacey uuugh 16:18 Kacey it (hopefully) is worth it 16:19 OldCoder Kacey, if you are impatient maybe best to save this for another time 16:19 OldCoder Because there are no guarantees 16:20 Kacey im actually very patient but nothing is working on this computer 16:20 OldCoder Sorry to hear it 16:20 OldCoder Boot Linux from a LiveCD maybe 16:20 OldCoder anunakki, hi 16:20 Kacey i dont want linux 16:21 * OldCoder shrugs 16:21 anunakki hey 16:21 OldCoder yeh 16:21 anunakki i have an idea 16:21 anunakki that i wanted to share 16:21 OldCoder oh? 16:21 anunakki know how in minecraft how they have the 4walls game 16:21 anunakki replicate only better? 16:21 OldCoder I don't know MC 16:21 OldCoder Others here do 16:45 Kacey hello 16:46 VanessaE hi 16:46 Kacey how do i run MinGW once i get it installed 16:46 VanessaE no clue (Linux user here) 16:46 Kacey lol 16:46 Kacey everybody uses linux 16:46 VanessaE windows is obsolete :-) 16:47 Kacey not my superior version of xp 16:47 VanessaE heh 16:47 Kacey oldcoder how do i run mingw 16:48 Kacey oldcoder 16:49 Kacey i guess not 16:49 OldCoder Hi 16:49 Lumpio- how do i mingw 16:49 Lumpio- i cant to google 16:49 Lumpio- is too hard pl ztel how 2 mingw 16:49 OldCoder Kacey, Create a file like this: 16:49 OldCoder Lumpio-, chill 16:49 OldCoder #include 16:49 Lumpio- plz help 16:49 OldCoder main() { puts ("hello"); } 16:49 OldCoder Kacey, can you use Notepad to do that? 16:49 Kacey ya what do i name it 16:50 Lumpio- hello.exe 16:50 OldCoder Lumpio-, I've never kicked anybody from here. But I dislike mockery more than obscenity. 16:50 OldCoder People swear, it's human 16:50 Lumpio- ┐(￣ー￣)┌ 16:50 OldCoder Kacey, call it hello.c 16:50 Lumpio- I don't really swear. 16:50 OldCoder Lumpio-, that is my point 16:50 Kacey ok 16:50 Lumpio- OldCoder: You honestly think "how do i run mingw" is a valid question? 16:50 OldCoder Swearing is no big deal 16:50 OldCoder Lumpio-, It is not 16:51 Lumpio- Even though it shows obvious laziness and/or inaptitude to use Google 16:51 Kacey where do i save it 16:51 OldCoder Lumpio-, But that can be pointed out without mockery 16:51 Kacey my browser wrecked 16:51 OldCoder Kacey, in any folder that seems reasonable 16:51 Lumpio- If you reinforce bad behavior it never goes awa 16:51 OldCoder Perhaps Downloads 16:51 OldCoder Lumpio-, Agreed 16:51 Kacey bin it is then 16:51 Lumpio- v: 16:51 OldCoder Lumpio-, Mockery is not the answer 16:52 OldCoder Lumpio-, Additionally this is a kid 16:52 Jordach VanessaE - face it: the gamers are windows 16:52 Jordach OldCoder ^ 16:52 PilzAdam bbl 16:52 VanessaE Jordach: not for long - Valve/Steam is coming to Linux :-) 16:53 Doc22 Oldcoder where are the worlds saved for singleplayer 16:53 Jordach VanessaE - expect drivers to fail: YES ATI 16:53 VanessaE yup, I fully expect that :-) 16:53 OldCoder Doc22, Inside the folder that has the game 16:53 Lumpio- Solution: no ATI 16:53 VanessaE nvidia 200, ati 0 16:53 Doc22 but which subfolder 16:53 Jordach 16:53 Doc22 like bin? 16:53 OldCoder Doc22, worlds 16:53 Doc22 ok 16:53 Doc22 ohhhh 16:54 Doc22 lol right in front of me 16:54 OldCoder Jordach, Windows owns the video card manufacturers for now 16:54 Doc22 thanks 16:54 * OldCoder chuckles 16:54 OldCoder Yes the in front of you issue happens 16:54 Jordach Noveau will NEVER win 16:54 Jordach hey Muadtralk 16:55 Jordach VanessaE - hows the popcorn fart called Sandy? (note: no offense, just VanessaE called it that) 16:55 OldCoder Muadtralk, Calinou hey 16:55 Muadtralk ello 16:55 VanessaE Jordach: nothing but a memory now. Weather here is more or less back to normal. 16:55 Kacey ok i made hello.c 16:55 VanessaE up in the northeast though? gevalt! 16:55 OldCoder Kacey, at CLI or CMD level 16:56 OldCoder Go to the folder that has the file hello.c 16:56 OldCoder For example 16:56 OldCoder CD \BACON 16:56 OldCoder if you arrive there let us know 16:56 VanessaE (as in, millions were without power after the storm. Some are still without power now. houses and roads demolished, etc etc) 16:57 VanessaE OldCoder: what's with this obsession with bacon anyway? :-) 16:57 Kacey f:/MinGW/bin? 16:57 Kacey bacon is the best thing ever 16:57 Calinou ]didyoumean sandy 16:57 Calinou Did You Mean: "Obama's Loose!" 16:57 VanessaE hah 16:58 Jordach VanessaE did you see obama'sd wake the fuck up 16:58 Jordach -d 16:58 VanessaE ? 16:58 VanessaE no? 16:58 Kacey it is not working 16:58 OldCoder VanessaE, The startupers seem to use it as a metaword like foo 16:58 OldCoder Kacey, What is not working 16:58 OldCoder I did not mean 16:58 OldCoder Literally type CD \BACON 16:58 OldCoder I mean 16:58 OldCoder CD \whatever-you-called-the-folder 16:58 VanessaE OldCoder: I'll stick to foo, bar, baz, quux, ... 16:58 OldCoder Where is the file hello.c? 16:58 Kacey it isnt a cd 16:59 OldCoder VanessaE, we are old skool 16:59 Jordach thats his video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og35U0d6WKY 16:59 OldCoder Kacey, Now is the time for you to go and Google DOS 16:59 VanessaE Kacey: cd means "change directory", not "compact disc" 16:59 OldCoder Kacey, CD is a command you will learn 16:59 Kacey oooh 16:59 OldCoder Kacey, what folder is hello.c in? 16:59 Kacey bin 16:59 OldCoder On C: ? 16:59 OldCoder Do this: 16:59 OldCoder CD \BIN 16:59 OldCoder Did it work> 16:59 Kacey no f: 16:59 OldCoder ? 16:59 OldCoder Then do this: 16:59 OldCoder F: 16:59 OldCoder CD \BIN 16:59 OldCoder Those two commands 16:59 OldCoder Did they work? 17:00 Kacey yes now what 17:01 OldCoder gcc hello.c 17:01 OldCoder What happens? 17:01 Calinou looks like Kacey is learning to compile on windows 17:01 Kacey nothing 17:01 OldCoder Yep 17:01 Calinou there's an easier way: run a linux distro in virtualbox, compile your stuff 17:01 Calinou 8D 17:01 OldCoder Kacey, Nothing? 17:01 OldCoder Calinou, yes 17:01 OldCoder Kacey, do this: 17:01 OldCoder DIR *.EXE 17:01 Kacey Calinou yes it is a slow process 17:01 OldCoder what do you see? 17:02 Calinou yeah, you need a beefy CPU if you want to play games in your VM 17:02 OldCoder Hang on folks we are nearly done 17:02 Calinou or just install linux in dualboot (or not) 17:02 OldCoder Debate VM later 17:02 OldCoder DIR *.EXE 17:02 Calinou ok 17:02 FreeFull bacon lettuce tomato cheddar pickle 17:02 OldCoder what do you see? 17:02 OldCoder Yum 17:02 OldCoder Food 17:02 OldCoder Kacey, DIR *.EXE 17:02 Calinou OldCoder: windows commands are case insensitive, filesystem too 17:02 OldCoder I know 17:02 Calinou dir *.exe will work 17:02 OldCoder I know 17:02 OldCoder I have done DOS 17:02 Kacey i see alot of code 17:02 OldCoder for 30 years 17:02 FreeFull dir.exe will work too I think 17:02 OldCoder Kacey: DIR HELLO.EXE 17:02 OldCoder Is that there? 17:03 Kacey not found 17:03 OldCoder If not: DIR A.EXE 17:03 OldCoder What about that one? 17:03 FreeFull dir.ext would work in DOS, I don't know if Windows has it 17:03 Jordach looks like Kacey is learning to compile on windows not true. MSC++ FTW 17:03 Calinou MSVC is shit 17:03 OldCoder Kacy; DIR A.EXE 17:03 Jordach Calinou - works for me and the rest of the programmers 17:03 OldCoder *Kacey 17:04 Kacey dir a.exe worked but a couple lines of code came up 17:04 Calinou hi u have to registr on our websitez to use our compilerz, pls use ur phone number so we can phone u while u code kthxbai 17:04 OldCoder Kacey: RENAME A.EXE HELLO.EXE 17:04 OldCoder We are nearly done 17:04 Jordach Calinou - they dont need that 17:04 Calinou I know :P 17:04 Jordach and for a fact half of them i told them are lies, esp. you.noobs@live.com 17:04 OldCoder Kacey: RENAME A.EXE HELLO.EXE 17:05 Kacey done' 17:05 OldCoder Kacey: HELLO 17:05 OldCoder What happens? 17:05 Kacey same thing 17:05 OldCoder The word Hello is printed? 17:05 Kacey let me check 17:05 Kacey no 17:05 OldCoder Kacey: Type hello and press Enter 17:05 OldCoder What happens? 17:05 Jordach Kacey - the program instantly exiting is a normal bug 17:06 Kacey it said hello back 17:06 OldCoder Kacey, congratulations 17:06 OldCoder You are a 'C' coder now 17:06 OldCoder The hello.c file 17:06 Kacey lol 17:06 OldCoder is 'C' source code 17:06 OldCoder Which simply prints some text 17:06 OldCoder It is not a program but the source code for one 17:06 Kacey wow 17:06 OldCoder gcc hello.c 17:06 OldCoder Made an EXE file named A.EXE 17:06 OldCoder Which you did then rename to HELLO.EXE 17:06 Jordach OldCoder - i learned a few things from Irrlicht 17:07 Jordach and c++ 17:07 OldCoder Typing Hello ran Hello.exe 17:07 OldCoder which printed the text it said 17:07 OldCoder Jordach, I will be done here momentarily 17:07 Jordach (any time i use a irrlicht func, using namespace irr; :) ) 17:07 OldCoder Then of C++ and Irrlicht speak 17:07 Kacey ok 17:07 OldCoder Kacey, here is one more quick test 17:07 OldCoder notepad hello.c 17:07 OldCoder Change the word to bacon 17:07 OldCoder Save the file and exit. Done? 17:08 OldCoder Change the word hello in the file to bacon I mean 17:08 Kacey done 17:08 OldCoder Now do this 17:08 OldCoder gcc -o bestfood.exe hello.c 17:08 OldCoder That is 17:08 OldCoder gcc space dash o space bestfood.exe space hello.c 17:08 OldCoder Done? 17:08 Kacey done 17:09 OldCoder kacey to finish for now 17:09 OldCoder Type bestfood please press Enter 17:09 Jordach mauvebic - i made a solution to your node problem# 17:09 Kacey sweet 17:09 OldCoder Kacey, sweet and can't be beat 17:09 Kacey now to open that file 17:09 OldCoder Now let people talk Minetest here 17:09 OldCoder I fear 17:09 OldCoder This is not the place to learn C at this level 17:09 OldCoder As Lumpio- said go and Google 17:09 OldCoder But learn a bit 17:09 OldCoder And people will explain 17:09 OldCoder More without pain 17:09 OldCoder Deal? 17:09 Kacey i have to start somewhere with a broken browser 17:10 OldCoder Yep 17:10 OldCoder Let there be Minetest 17:10 VanessaE if your browser is broken, fix it. 17:10 Lumpio- Get an unbroken browser 17:10 Kacey deal 17:10 VanessaE first thing's first. 17:10 OldCoder Kacey, You have compiled 'C' code. Put today on your resume. 17:10 Kacey kaceywater needs bucket code 17:11 Jordach Kacey - making water push things is a LUA job, but slow, but the c?c++ route is better 17:11 Kacey no input file error of course 17:12 Kacey im thinking something easy 17:12 Kacey where it is harder to walk through water_flowing than water_source 17:14 OldCoder mrtux, hi 17:14 mrtux hi 17:14 Kacey hello 17:16 OldCoder mrtux, Kacey has compiled his first 'C' program 17:16 OldCoder I remember doing this with Kenneth 17:17 mrtux ok 17:17 mrtux oldcoder, i'm busy right now 17:17 Kacey come on mingw compile already 17:17 * OldCoder laughs out loud 17:17 OldCoder mrtux, you have entered a channel 17:17 OldCoder People *are* going to speak to you :p 17:17 OldCoder Expect this terrible fate 17:17 mrtux true 17:17 OldCoder Yes 17:18 mrtux dang it 17:18 OldCoder mrtux, talk to Loanshark if you have a chance today about Debian 17:18 OldCoder Minecraft VPS issue? 17:18 * Kacey is getting ready to swing a cactus at the computer 17:18 OldCoder Swing a cactus is quite a picture 17:18 mrtux i can't get Minecraft to run on my computer anymore 17:18 mrtux time to get a new one 17:18 Kacey anger needs props sometimes 17:19 OldCoder mrtux, You have known that for a while 17:19 Kacey i found the cactus 17:20 * Kacey swings the cactus 17:21 Kacey celeron55 17:21 OldCoder celeron55_, hi 17:21 OldCoder All is well here 17:21 OldCoder And we are pleased to have you visit 17:21 Kacey very pleased 17:22 OldCoder Kacey, don't ask him to convert mods for you. Or was that somebody else who said that? 17:22 OldCoder He is here to advise and chill 17:22 Kacey that wasn't me that asked him 17:22 Kacey im doing this myself 17:22 OldCoder All right. Somebody mentioned they'd ask him to make a mod. I don't remember the context. 17:23 OldCoder That was a day or two back 17:23 OldCoder mrtux has a slow PC 17:23 OldCoder Actually runs a VM on it somehow 17:23 Kacey vm? 17:23 OldCoder Virtual Machine 17:23 OldCoder Google VirtualBox 17:23 Kacey ooh 17:23 OldCoder Useful tool. Learn it. 17:24 Kacey ok 17:24 Kacey i got my browser fixed using cmd cuz im boss like that 17:25 OldCoder mrtux, wb 17:26 OldCoder Reboot clear up the issue? 17:26 mrtux dunno 17:26 mrtux probably not 17:26 Kacey lol 17:26 mrtux it is time 17:26 * OldCoder laughs 17:26 mrtux to throw this pos computer into the trash can 17:26 OldCoder I saw that remark coming 17:26 mrtux dat dell dimension 4600 17:27 Kacey i have one of those 17:27 VanessaE throw your POS operating system in the trash then 17:27 mrtux with it's wonderful 512MB of ram 17:27 mrtux VanessaE, good idea!\ 17:27 OldCoder VanessaE, He somehow runs Arch under VM under Windows in 512MB 17:27 OldCoder I have no idea how it works 17:27 mrtux Windows XP is crap 17:27 VanessaE 99% of a person's computer problems are likely to be directly caused by a broken OS, not broken hardware. 17:27 OldCoder Yes but mrtux tell her how old this PC is 17:27 mrtux 8 years old 17:27 mrtux maybe 9 17:27 Kacey if i could get SOS on to a git repository u could use it 17:28 mrtux I should install debian gnu/linux on me pc 17:28 VanessaE 8 years? ok so we're talking Pentium4-class, 2 GHz stuff then 17:28 Kacey SOS-Superior Operating System 17:28 VanessaE mrtux: get Xubuntu 12.04 17:28 VanessaE (not Ubuntu, but with the X = XFCE = good for slow hardware) 17:28 * PilzAdam is back 17:28 OldCoder How does that handle slow RAM? 17:28 OldCoder PilzAdam, Hi! 17:28 OldCoder Welcome back! 17:29 mrtux VanessaE, I stay away of Ubuntu type distros 17:29 PilzAdam hi OldCoder 17:29 mrtux Debian is fine 17:29 VanessaE OldCoder: should handle it as well as any other linux distro really. 17:29 OldCoder Good 17:29 VanessaE mrtux: why? 17:29 mrtux Ubuntu is a big no-no in my opinion 17:29 VanessaE I mean if debian works for you, go for it. 17:29 OldCoder What about Zenix? Anybody here try it? 17:29 mrtux Full of crap I will never use 17:29 OldCoder It's Debian tailored for old H/W 17:29 mrtux eh i might try it 17:30 PilzAdam someone seen T_A_N_k? 17:30 OldCoder Last night 17:30 Kacey how do i download virtual box 17:30 OldCoder When NekoGloop started in about T_A_N_K patch 17:30 OldCoder mrtux, help Kacey for just a moment if you have time 17:30 OldCoder He can Google 17:30 mrtux okay 17:30 OldCoder Just tell him the basic idea 17:30 Kacey i can google now 17:30 mrtux Go to http://virtualbox.org 17:30 mrtux download it 17:30 mrtux run the installer 17:31 mrtux allow it to install network drivers and all that other stuff 17:31 mrtux etc 17:31 Calinou (not Ubuntu, but with the X = XFCE = good for slow hardware) 17:31 Kacey i cant go to virtualbox.org 17:31 Calinou xubuntu isn't really fast, while it avoids eating your GPU when playing games, it uses 10% less RAM than the standard ubuntu 17:31 mrtux I like my Openbo 17:31 mrtux *openbox 17:31 Calinou you'll still need ~1GB of RAM to run it decently 17:31 Calinou (who doesn't have 1GB of RAM today?à 17:31 OldCoder He's got 512MB so pretty limited 17:31 Calinou s/à/) 17:32 Calinou better run debian testing in virtualbox 17:32 OldCoder mrtux, Google Zenix and check RAM limits 17:32 VanessaE RAM can be upgraded. Even a 2004-era machine should be able to hack 4GB. 17:32 OldCoder Yes; good point 17:32 Calinou debian is good for 1) servers, 2) VMs 17:32 mrtux I don't use Google, OldCoder. 17:32 OldCoder mrtux StartPage then 17:32 mrtux I use the almighty startpage 17:32 mrtux yes 17:32 Calinou for general desktop use, it's not really advisable... eg. it's a PITA to get non-free drivers working 17:32 Calinou startpage FTW 17:32 OldCoder I must say I respect Debian per se more after screwing with it recently 17:33 Kacey freaking ie not working 17:33 Calinou 99% of a person's computer problems are likely to be directly caused by a broken OS, not broken hardware. 17:33 Calinou if you don't count HDD failures :p 17:33 VanessaE heh 17:33 Calinou which are 99% of HW problems 17:33 mrtux My VPS runs Debian, I love it 17:33 Lumpio- s/broken OS/broken software in general/ 17:33 VanessaE heh. I said 99% of *computer* problems, not HW problems :-) 17:33 Calinou Kacey: http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-snapshots/index.html?path=Win/ 8) 17:34 VanessaE seeing as how too many people out there equate "computer" with hardware + OS + apps 17:34 Calinou get a real, free browser that is better than google chrome :P 17:34 mrtux Use firefox 17:34 Calinou why? 17:34 mrtux much better than chromium/google chrome 17:34 Calinou it's slower 17:34 Kacey i use gc and my patches on it 17:34 mrtux I don't trust google 17:34 Calinou (eg. have to restart browser when removing/adding extensions, and slower page load in general) 17:34 Calinou chromium is free :P 17:34 iqualfragile no 17:35 iqualfragile not true 17:35 iqualfragile you do not need to restart 17:35 Calinou tune it properly and it won't fuck around with your data 17:35 mrtux Most of the time on GNU/Linux, I just use a command line browser like Lynx 17:35 iqualfragile yaay 17:35 iqualfragile i user elinks 17:35 Calinou (disable third party cookies, and in the "privacy" tab, uncheck the first four checkboxes, check the last one ("do not track") 17:35 OldCoder I use lynx pretty often 17:35 mrtux Dillo is a good graphical web browser 17:35 OldCoder Try NetSurf too 17:35 Calinou CLI browsers, meh 17:35 iqualfragile but on my desktop i use firefox 17:35 iqualfragile and yes its slow 17:35 mrtux >2012 17:35 mrtux >not using lynx 17:35 OldCoder Calinou, well, I also have icecat, midori, epiphany, arora, etc. 17:36 Calinou fun fact: FF's default search engine points to google, and mozilla gets monies when you search using it 17:36 OldCoder Yep 17:36 iqualfragile but i wana see chromium managing 424 tabs 17:36 OldCoder 424 tabs 17:36 OldCoder Whoa 17:36 Calinou midori is good, fast but featureless :P but I like the built-in adblock 17:36 iqualfragile (just installed an addon to count them ^^ 17:36 iqualfragile ) 17:36 mrtux firefox is a bit bloated now 17:36 OldCoder It is a nice effort 17:36 Calinou "a bit" heh 17:36 OldCoder mrtux, Yes 17:36 OldCoder But it is useful 17:36 mrtux yes 17:36 OldCoder I like having all the browser 17:36 OldCoder s 17:37 Calinou 1.73GB RAM used of 12GB right now 17:37 OldCoder I even have IE6 and IE7 17:37 mrtux OldCoder, do you have dillo? 17:37 Calinou IE... seriously 17:37 mrtux best browser 17:37 OldCoder Of course 17:37 OldCoder I have the latest Dillo 17:37 OldCoder and netsurf 17:37 iqualfragile 600 mb for firefox 17:37 OldCoder etc. 17:37 OldCoder 600MB? 17:37 mrtux Links and GUI Links is nice 17:37 iqualfragile but it goes up to 1.8 from time to time 17:37 iqualfragile ram 17:37 iqualfragile firefox isnt just a browser anymore 17:38 mrtux choosing a browser for me is like choosing a gnu/linux distro 17:38 OldCoder Or an editor 17:38 iqualfragile its a web-development-toolkit 17:38 mrtux Since arch went to systemd 17:38 mrtux me no liek 17:38 Kacey virtualbox is downloading 17:38 OldCoder iqualfragile, Yes 17:38 mrtux okay 17:38 iqualfragile mrtux: its arch, you can use another initd 17:38 Calinou lolarch 17:38 mrtux true 17:38 mrtux I like debian more 17:38 OldCoder mrtux, You've heard Gentoo's position on systemd 17:39 mrtux i want to try slackware sometime 17:39 Calinou http://i.imgur.com/UzT8H.jpg 17:39 OldCoder If things were different, we'd have started OpenLinux by now 17:39 OldCoder Absolute Linux is good too 17:39 OldCoder Or at least friendlier than Slackware 17:39 mrtux even though I am sort of a beginner to GNU/Linux, I don't like newbie distros 17:39 OldCoder Slackware then 17:39 OldCoder I met Volkerding; he seemed pretty nice 17:40 Calinou newbie distros are fine; it's funny to see people bashing them 17:40 OldCoder That's the distro I used for a decade 17:40 mrtux oldcoder, does slackware have a package manager? 17:40 OldCoder mrtux, Yes 17:40 mrtux ok 17:40 OldCoder and the packages are pretty simple 17:40 OldCoder They are just tarballs 17:40 OldCoder No obscenity RPMs 17:40 mrtux you told me to stay away from rpm based distros 17:40 Calinou so I seen this while browsing /r/linux: http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html 17:40 OldCoder Oh, yes 17:40 Calinou alternate way that doesn't scam you: 17:40 OldCoder Calinou, reviewing 17:40 iqualfragile hmm… i guess debian is switching to systend sometime in the future 17:41 Calinou 1) forward port 80 in TCP 17:41 Calinou 2) sudo apt-get install apache 17:41 mrtux yuck systemd 17:41 Calinou 3) mv ~/my_image.png /var/www/my_image.png 17:41 Calinou 4) ??? 17:41 Calinou 5) PROFIT 17:41 OldCoder Calinou, that is interesting 17:41 mrtux calinou, apache makes evils 17:41 mrtux >2012 17:41 mrtux >not using lighttpd 17:41 mrtux etc 17:41 iqualfragile Calinou: not everyone is allowed to forward port 80, i guess 17:41 iqualfragile im using nc as httpd 17:42 iqualfragile beat that 17:42 mrtux nginx is quite good as well 17:42 mrtux my home server runs nginx 17:42 iqualfragile (well, i actualy did that once) 17:43 mrtux my mouse is going bad 17:43 tkln mrtux: the problem i run into with debian every time when trying to use it as a desktop os is that the stuff in the stable is so old that when i absolutely need to use some newer piece of software it requires me to upgarde a lot more stuff and after concidering that i just think that maybe i should just go with unstable. after moving to unstable i find it barely usable due to massive amount of bugs. 17:43 mrtux yes 17:43 PilzAdam http://i.imgur.com/UzT8H.jpg <- is that NekoGloop? 17:43 mrtux i liked arch because of new packages 17:44 mrtux but i don't like systemd 17:44 VanessaE ...which is precisely why I run xubuntu and not debian. 17:44 mrtux i stay away from *buntu disros 17:44 iqualfragile freetard 17:44 Calinou Calinou: not everyone is allowed to forward port 80, i guess 17:44 iqualfragile great word 17:44 Calinou then change apache's port 17:44 iqualfragile never heard that 17:44 Calinou (or well, you can use any other web server too, I like nginx personally) 17:44 mrtux people call me a freetard, i know :P 17:44 Calinou xubuntu FTW :) 17:44 mrtux calinou, same 17:44 * Calinou highfives VanessaE 17:45 Calinou xubuntu 12.10 looks awesome 17:45 iqualfragile but the usual user will try to access a severver on port 80 to retrive a website 17:45 Calinou tkln: there's testing, too.. 17:45 mrtux yes debian testing 17:45 iqualfragile and some users are not allowed to forward a port at all 17:45 Calinou iqualfragile: get a domain that points to a custom port 17:45 Calinou almost always, if you can't forward ports at all, change ISP seriously 17:45 Calinou I still wonder why not being able to forward ports is legal 17:46 mrtux some dns providers allow port 80 redirection 17:46 mrtux no-ip does 17:46 mrtux but i don't like then 17:46 mrtux *them 17:46 mrtux they spam me 17:46 mrtux they send me retarded emails even though I don't use them anymore 17:46 mrtux and I unsubscribed from their mailing list 17:49 Calinou get a "spam" email and a "real" email 17:49 mrtux yes 17:49 Calinou and blacklist their email too 17:49 mrtux well, it is on an email I no longer use 17:49 mrtux my yahoo one 17:50 Jordach i just hate the OS war in general 17:51 Jordach put yer spyware wherever ya like: i got nothin to hi9de ;) 17:51 Jordach -9 17:52 mrtux i think the government spies on windows users 17:52 OldCoder That's been known since the 1990s 17:52 mrtux yes 17:52 OldCoder Hell, the encryption algorithm is wide open 17:53 Kacey ok what linux should i use 17:53 OldCoder Kacey, you missed much of the discussion 17:53 OldCoder Hmm 17:53 mrtux kacey, debian isn't terrible 17:53 OldCoder Good PC, right? 17:54 Kacey vm 17:54 OldCoder All right 17:54 mrtux try crunchbang 17:54 OldCoder Then you can experiment 17:54 Kacey aah 17:54 OldCoder That sounds like a breakfast cereal 17:54 cosarara97 try mint 17:54 mrtux eew 17:54 OldCoder Mint with MATE 17:55 OldCoder Better than FATE 17:55 OldCoder Of Windows 17:55 mrtux i am not a fan of beginner distros really 17:55 OldCoder mrtux, he is a Windows user 17:55 OldCoder Try not him to confuser 17:55 mrtux yes 17:55 mrtux mint is fine though 17:55 cosarara97 mrtux: he IS a beginner 17:55 mrtux true 17:55 OldCoder Debian, Mint, Absolute, Puppy 17:55 * mrtux is about to throw his computer and mouse away 17:55 OldCoder Are good for the Linux Guppy 17:56 cosarara97 mrtux: why? 17:56 mrtux my mouse is going bad 17:56 OldCoder cosarara97, 9 year old PC with 512MB RAM 17:56 mrtux my computer can't handle minecraft or minetest 17:56 OldCoder VanessaE points out RAM upgrade possible 17:56 mrtux my father is cheap 17:56 OldCoder He is not 17:56 OldCoder You know why 17:56 mrtux should of bought a new computer a while agi 17:57 mrtux *ago 17:57 OldCoder But perhaps Christmas will be different 17:57 mrtux before he was laid off 17:57 OldCoder mrtux, he might not wish family business discussed 17:57 OldCoder Though it is your decision 17:57 OldCoder And to be clear you have done quite a good job making a Decade PC work 17:58 OldCoder I had one that long and the story I'd tell is that it went to hell 17:58 OldCoder In a handbasket 17:58 OldCoder Kacey, quite a few distros will work 17:58 OldCoder have fun 17:58 mrtux puppy is decent 17:58 Kacey uuugh i had it running once 17:58 mrtux and not too big 17:59 Kacey brb 18:00 mrtux i've been through 3 mice the last 2-3 years 18:00 OldCoder LibreOffice takes any font you type even if it doesn't exist 18:00 OldCoder So I seem to be using Tims New Roman 18:00 OldCoder :-) 18:00 mrtux lol 18:00 * OldCoder laughs 18:00 OldCoder And it is quite different from Times 18:00 mrtux my parents need to stop buying el cheapo mice 18:01 * cosarara97 uses a logitech mouse 18:01 mrtux i have an hp mouse 18:01 mrtux my last one was a logitech one 18:01 OldCoder I've got mice from the 1980s but they're serial 18:01 mrtux lasted a year or so 18:01 OldCoder Not much use now 18:01 mrtux the first one was a microsoft mouse 18:01 mrtux it lasted forever 18:02 mrtux my keyboard is nine years old 18:02 mrtux it isn't a usb mouse 18:02 mrtux *keyboard 18:02 mrtux old but works well enough 18:02 OldCoder I replaced the keyboard on my laptop two months ago. The keys all broke last week or the week before. That's when you saw me leave to fix it. 18:03 OldCoder Apparently I use the keys more than most people 18:03 mrtux yes 18:03 OldCoder I told the guy 18:03 OldCoder No cheap sh*t this time 18:03 OldCoder Order me the real thing 18:03 mrtux yes 18:03 OldCoder It's on order 18:03 mrtux sourcemage? 18:03 OldCoder Hmm? 18:03 mrtux i know someone who uses that 18:03 OldCoder Nah 18:03 OldCoder This is a laptop 18:03 OldCoder Oh 18:03 OldCoder ruskie, Hi 18:04 Jordach Apparently I use the keys more than most people - another reason to buy a DESKTOP 18:04 OldCoder I used them for 30 years 18:04 * mrtux would rather have a laptop then desktop 18:04 OldCoder I bought this laptop from a startuper last year 18:04 OldCoder My first one 18:04 OldCoder Got used to it; love it 18:04 * mrtux likes laptops 18:05 Jordach i wont buy a laptop is because they break easy 18:05 OldCoder Yep 18:05 * Jordach likes saving money 18:05 mrtux buy a durable one 18:05 Jordach mrtux - Acer 18:05 mrtux eew 18:05 Jordach their aspires dont break 18:05 mrtux oh? 18:05 * Jordach is using one 18:06 mrtux i am thinking about getting a thinkpad or some hp laptop 18:06 Jordach http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/desktop/0000/Acer/AspireSA80/AspireSA80sp2.shtml - my little thing 18:06 Jordach (note, i got the best possible addons, card reader, etc.) 18:07 mrtux jordach, how much ram does your computer have? 18:07 Jordach 1gb 18:07 mrtux that's not terrible 18:07 Jordach mrtux if MC can run at 200fps then yes its fine 18:07 Jordach on a agp card 18:07 tkln Jordach: do you base this only on the fact that the unit unit you own hasen't broken yet? because i have come across multiple failed aspire series acers. 18:08 Jordach tkln - dunno, has never fought me over any trouble, even installing bsd was easy 18:08 mrtux OldCoder, are Lenovo ThinkPads good> 18:08 OldCoder I know people who've used them 18:08 OldCoder Can't say though 18:08 mrtux ah 18:09 Jordach Samsung laptops are good 18:09 Jordach i girlfriend had one 18:09 Jordach -i +my 18:09 Jordach and Minetest did not laggggggg 18:09 mrtux i thought they only made *cough* chromebooks *cough* 18:10 Jordach nope. 18:10 Jordach actually i could live on a chromebook 18:10 Calinou acer -- the satan 18:10 Calinou hp is fine, thinkpads work well with linux too 18:10 Jordach Calinou - no kernel panics here 18:11 Calinou as in, the additional keys, backlight.. 18:11 VanessaE bbl 18:11 Jordach VanessaE alright 18:12 NekoGloop Meow. 18:13 cosarara97 hi cat 18:13 NekoGloop ^w^ 18:13 Jordach points for IPV6 18:13 NekoGloop Automatically done by ipad. 18:14 Jordach s/Automatically/Automagically 18:14 Jordach yes im a grammar n@zi 18:15 mrtux jordach_the_grammar_nazi.ogg 18:15 babyface1031 Is mese the strongest for pickaxe 18:15 mrtux yes 18:16 NekoGloop Unless you have moreores. 18:16 NekoGloop Then mithril is better. 18:16 babyface1031 ooo i have moreore :D 18:16 NekoGloop Gloopores has arol, which lasts for-fucking-ever. 18:16 NekoGloop But is slower. 18:20 NekoGloop Is vanessae still about? 18:21 cosarara97 about? 18:22 OldCoder Present 18:22 OldCoder He is asking if she is here 18:23 cosarara97 : bbl 18:23 * OldCoder is resting for a little bit 18:23 OldCoder My documents are going well and all seems fine in MT today 18:23 OldCoder I will be back shortly 18:24 cosarara97 k 18:24 NekoGloop I connected after she said that. How am i to know? 18:25 OldCoder NekoGloop, who said that you would know? He was trying to help. Back soon. 18:26 cosarara97 would you have you have preferred me to say "she said she'd be back later before you connected"? :S 18:27 NekoGloop "No" would have sufficed. 18:27 cosarara97 ok 18:28 NekoGloop :3 18:33 Calinou can't connect to your server at port 30003, OldCoder 18:33 Calinou or, did your ip change? 18:33 Calinou Then mithril is better. 18:33 Calinou it is not :p 18:33 Calinou slower, but slightly more durable 18:33 NekoGloop Eh? 18:33 NekoGloop I thought it was faster? 18:34 Calinou it's a troll ore :D 18:34 NekoGloop Used to be edible 8) 18:36 NekoGloop Now one must find kalite. :3 18:41 NekoGloop And stop the part-spam. 18:42 Calinou part-spam? 18:42 Calinou you mean, the "changing host" thingie? can't do anything against that 18:43 NekoGloop No. 18:43 NekoGloop I mean "connection reset by peer" 18:43 Calinou shit happens 18:44 NekoGloop Fuck off. 18:44 Calinou no u 18:45 Calinou wait, firing up webchat and seeing 18:46 Calinou "freenoder" isn't an allowed nick :< 18:46 * Jordach registers minetest as a nick 18:50 Calinou no, I don't "connection reset by peer"... 18:51 NekoGloop Calinou: ? The hell do you mean? 18:51 Calinou anyway: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3590 < nice, but unity for gaming... eats your GPU 18:51 Calinou NekoGloop: you said I was causing "connection reset by peer" messages, no? 18:51 NekoGloop I wasnt talking to you. 18:53 NekoGloop Anyway, ironically minetest has become a game made to be laggy on any computer, so who gives a fuck? 18:54 GTRsdk at least it is FOSS 18:54 GTRsdk and runs better than vanilla Minecraft 18:54 cosarara97 It doesn't run slower than MC here 18:54 Calinou http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/characters/viewcha.php?id=15 18:54 Calinou haha 18:54 Calinou scaled the textures down 18:54 Calinou so fugly :D 18:54 Jordach anyways - im going out 18:55 Calinou by 18:55 Calinou bye* 18:55 cosarara97 D: that thing's horrible 18:57 NekoGloop Minetest is laggy as hell if i compile it myself. 18:57 NekoGloop What magic is done to other versions i have not the slightest. 18:57 Calinou what renderer do you use? 18:57 NekoGloop OpenGL. 18:57 Calinou normally it should be as fast as precompiled.. 18:58 NekoGloop Direct3d doesnt leak textures all over the place but crashes. 18:58 NekoGloop Segfaults. 18:58 NekoGloop Calinou: <10 fps 18:59 Calinou weird 18:59 Calinou there has been a change about leaking textures recently 18:59 NekoGloop While i get >50 fps with same settings on OC's build. 19:00 NekoGloop Something celeron fucked with made the game laggy as hell. Either that or my compiler took a crap on the efficiency of the code. 19:00 Calinou or your compiler :p 19:00 cosarara97 what compiler are you using? 19:00 Calinou protip: clang sucks 19:00 NekoGloop MSVC++E 19:01 Calinou a comment in minetest code says so 19:01 NekoGloop Microsoft visual c++ express. 19:01 NekoGloop Version 10. 19:02 Octupus Hellllo 19:02 NekoGloop Goooooodbye. 19:03 Octupus :l 19:03 cosarara97 hi 19:05 babyface1031 hi 19:05 Octupus hi face 19:25 Doc22 Hey oldcode hows the progress on your thing 19:26 Doc22 how many pages have you done 19:26 Doc22 oldcoder * 19:30 PilzAdam bye 19:49 Octupus Hello 19:49 Dogzilla131 hello octu 19:51 OldCoder Back 19:51 OldCoder Doc22, it goes well 19:52 Doc22 great 19:52 Doc22 good to hear 19:52 OldCoder Octupus, I've reverted the Octublocks temporarily because world 30004 was failing. We'll research the matter further. 19:53 Octupus Ok 19:53 Octupus Thank you for notifying me 19:55 OldCoder Sure 19:55 OldCoder If the world works for a day or two, we upgrade the mod again. The results then will be clues. 20:01 babyface1031 wb Octupus 20:04 babyface1031 i tried to tell you about your blocks Octupus but you loged off to fast D: 20:04 Octupus Oh :) 20:06 OldCoder Blocks may not be an issue 20:06 OldCoder We will see 20:11 Octupus Ok 20:35 Dogzilla131 why is the server shutting 20:36 Octupus Idk 20:36 Lumpio- Sandy is drawing close 20:39 xcgurl08 Hi is anyone here? 20:40 Dogzilla131 yes 20:41 xcgurl08 Is there a mod that will add villagers like there are in minecraft 20:41 Octupus Yes 20:41 Octupus No 20:42 xcgurl08 D: 20:42 xcgurl08 Okay. 20:42 xcgurl08 Thanks. 20:46 T_A_N_K I am on a macintosh g4 ppc lol 20:48 RealBadAngel dont you have a chair at home? 20:49 T_A_N_K lol 20:52 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hi 20:52 iqualfragile hi oldcoder! 20:52 T_A_N_K it seems like it's struggling to start minecraft, but the opengl graphics on it are really fluent, i wonder if i can compile minetest.deb for ppc platform :3 20:53 OldCoder Could try 20:59 Doc_ Hey VannessaE can you help me 20:59 Doc_ I don't know how to make ores generate 20:59 Doc_ in a mod 21:00 T_A_N_K_ look at the moreores mod 21:00 Doc_ okay 21:05 OldCoder babyface1031, world is healthy? 21:05 babyface1031 yes working fine 21:05 OldCoder Good 21:06 babyface1031 just quite no one on but me :( 21:06 OldCoder We can update Octublock again tomorrow or Tuesday 21:06 babyface1031 ok 21:06 OldCoder babyface1031, Kacey left, then 21:06 OldCoder Do not worry 21:06 babyface1031 yeah 21:06 OldCoder Then if crashes come back 21:06 OldCoder We will know it is mod 21:06 OldCoder See idea? 21:06 Doc_ where is the modding api again 21:06 babyface1031 yeah 21:06 OldCoder api.minetest.net ? 21:06 OldCoder cornernote put it up 21:06 OldCoder He has asked me to host 21:07 OldCoder So it may move 21:07 Doc_ ok 21:11 T_A_N_K one small step, every dependancy for minetest building is there, except libjpeg8-dev which i used libjpeg62, so that's one small step.. 21:11 OldCoder If you rebuild Irrlicht that inconsistency tends to go away 21:12 OldCoder But you don't need to 21:12 T_A_N_K why would i rebuild irrlicht? 21:15 T_A_N_K building :o 21:16 Octupus :0 21:23 Doc_ what is the item name for the wooden door 21:23 Doc_ default:???? 21:24 Octupus Default:door 21:24 Octupus I believe 21:25 Doc_ thank 21:25 Doc_ thanks* 21:25 Octupus No 21:25 Octupus No 21:25 Octupus No. 21:25 Octupus No problem 21:25 T_A_N_K 58% 21:27 Muadtralk door:door 21:28 Muadtralk dor isnt in the default mod 21:28 Muadtralk door* 21:28 Doc_ gtg bye 21:30 T_A_N_K wait a second 21:30 T_A_N_K sprites can load textures right? 21:33 OldCoder T_A_N_K, to fix various problems 21:33 T_A_N_K so they can? 21:41 Octupus Lalalala 21:43 Octupus I'm bored :-/ 21:43 T_A_N_K that's weird lol 21:43 T_A_N_K it opens up, but i guess it needs libjpeg8 21:44 OldCoder Octupus, Build? 21:44 OldCoder Octupus, you have learned mods 21:44 OldCoder And become a manager of worlds 21:44 OldCoder There should also be time 21:44 OldCoder To simply relax 21:44 OldCoder Why not go build 21:44 Octupus I didn't write the mods :l 21:44 OldCoder How much of the blocks did you do? 21:45 Octupus 36 + 21:45 OldCoder I mean... 21:45 OldCoder Did you write the mod? it counts 21:45 Octupus 40 blocks 21:45 OldCoder Anyway, why not go build the castle up? 21:45 OldCoder Put stuff in it 21:45 Octupus Colloquy :/ 21:46 OldCoder Oh! 21:46 OldCoder And we do not yet have phone to MT gateways :-) 21:46 Octupus Nope:) 21:46 OldCoder Perhaps read a book or write one? 21:47 OldCoder There are good books online 21:47 Octupus I still haven't even started the army story I wante to write 21:51 NekoGloop I FOUND DIAMONDZ. :D 21:51 TheSlimShady cool story fag not wtfu 21:51 Octupus GREAT 21:51 TheSlimShady stfu* 21:51 TheSlimShady hi Octupus i miss you why havent you passed to the server?? 21:51 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: new kids should keep their mouths shut. 21:51 TheSlimShady im LandMine :) ..............your the NewPhag for all i know hahahaahha 21:52 Octupus Lolz 21:52 Octupus I haven't been around LM 21:52 NekoGloop haha. 21:52 TheSlimShady its all cool Octupus 21:52 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEQf_KrmXY 21:52 Octupus Because I been doing ma mod 21:52 TheSlimShady yeah i have seen it, its comming along well 21:52 Octupus Thanks:) 21:53 T_A_N_K Look out for that apple 21:53 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: you do know that we still havent forgotten what you've done? 21:53 T_A_N_K OH GOD NAOPGSJKL:Ah 21:53 Octupus Lm il come on to check later 21:53 TheSlimShady i dont give 2 shits about you NekoGloop now stfu and let me talk to Octupus 21:53 TheSlimShady ok 21:53 Octupus Did u see my ship? 21:54 TheSlimShady i uhhh took your privs though hehehe 21:54 TheSlimShady on my server? 21:54 Octupus Yes 21:54 TheSlimShady no where? 21:54 NekoGloop Greifers gonna greif. 21:54 Octupus Idk how to explain 21:55 TheSlimShady well must be cool...ill realease the server map soon 21:55 Octupus Cool 21:55 TheSlimShady yeah......like on the 13 or 14th or something 21:55 Octupus U revoke my privs? 21:55 TheSlimShady yeah 21:55 NekoGloop Octupus: you thought the parkour map's maze was hard? you should see my mineshaft. 8) 21:55 Octupus :P 21:56 Octupus Why eminem? 21:56 TheSlimShady nothing personal lol...but you never came back so i was like ill take them if comes bck ill give them 21:56 OldCoder I am going for cola and will bbs 21:56 Octupus bye coder 21:56 Octupus Lolz Kay 21:56 OldCoder <--- a little dehydrated and will come back 21:57 Octupus Lm il show u where l8er but I need u to place some jets on it :) 21:57 TheSlimShady ohh hi jordan4ibanez i like your gamemode thought generating flatland seems to be slow at least on my pc 21:57 TheSlimShady ohhhh you mean that? 21:57 TheSlimShady so you were the guy who copied my jet? 21:57 TheSlimShady lol 21:57 Octupus Maybe :| 21:57 jordan4ibanez thanks, i took that poop out mang 21:58 TheSlimShady you ruined my original jet lol 21:58 Octupus That wasn't ne 21:58 Octupus *me 21:58 TheSlimShady well someone copied it and loaded it aside the original and they collieded 21:58 TheSlimShady its ok if it was you, i fixed it 21:58 Octupus Wasn't me 21:58 TheSlimShady i have a schem of the jet 21:59 TheSlimShady ohh ok 21:59 Octupus I placed it far away from there 21:59 TheSlimShady ok i beleave you 21:59 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: well, might as well show you this: http://ompldr.org/vZzVhbQ 21:59 NekoGloop Goes for everyone else too. 21:59 NekoGloop GloopTest updated :3 21:59 Octupus What's it do? 21:59 Octupus Is it a new build 22:00 NekoGloop no 22:00 NekoGloop it's a texture pack 22:00 Octupus O 22:00 TheSlimShady its ugly like your face NekoGloop now stfu 22:01 Octupus *no comment* 22:01 jordan4ibanez brb wieners 22:02 Octupus So LM how's it going 22:02 NekoGloop you cant even legitimatly make such an arguement. 22:02 NekoGloop seeing as you dont know what my face looks like. 22:03 TheSlimShady NekoGloop i have taken the time to findout alot about everyone heh, trust me i can make that statement.....and im ok octupus 22:03 TheSlimShady just chillin 22:03 TheSlimShady school 22:03 Octupus Cool 22:03 TheSlimShady and such 22:03 TheSlimShady how about you? 22:03 TheSlimShady what evern happened to LAD 22:04 Octupus He's around 22:04 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: except that there is no evidence of my face anywhere that you could have possibly linked to me, 22:05 TheSlimShady cool... 22:06 Octupus I been good 2 just dealing with mods when I can :) 22:07 TheSlimShady NekoGloop trust me when i say that there is.....and luck with the rest of your mods octupus 22:07 Octupus Gracias 22:08 NekoGloop you amuse me. 22:09 NekoGloop do note that there are two people on the internet who use the name "GloopMaster" ;) 22:09 babyface1031 anyone know of a good texture pack to see gloopores in cobble better? 22:09 NekoGloop babyface1031: ? 22:09 NekoGloop gloopores dont generate in cobble, how could they? 22:10 babyface1031 stone sorry 22:10 NekoGloop :3 22:11 NekoGloop well you could use default, dokutest, or my texture pack: http://ompldr.org/vZzVhbQ 22:11 Octupus Rawr 22:11 babyface1031 i cant see them till i get right up on them all i see is 3 tiny lines 22:11 Octupus *Dinosaur* 22:12 NekoGloop babyface1031: well you could use default, dokutest, or my texture pack: http://ompldr.org/vZzVhbQ 22:13 babyface1031 ok ty 22:14 OldCoder Bach 22:14 Octupus Hello coder 22:14 NekoGloop Sebastian? 22:16 Octupus Brb gonna walk dog then I get the pc :D 22:16 * Octupus is away 22:21 NekoGloop now i have a gwinder! :D 22:21 OldCoder Gwinder and a binder will be complete 22:22 OldCoder Don't minder me 22:22 OldCoder Preoccupied he sighed 22:22 TheSlimShady wth 22:23 OldCoder TheSlimShady, Shady Slim my name ain't Jim pleased to meet you 22:23 NekoGloop with the horses. 22:23 OldCoder Of courses 22:30 * mrtux is watching Star Wars telnet edition on his Windows NT 4 Workstation VM 22:30 TheSlimShady uuuuuuu i used to do that on XP, then i started to like women 22:30 mrtux lol 22:32 NekoGloop ignore landmine, mrtux. 22:32 mrtux oh that's landmine? 22:32 TheSlimShady yup 22:32 NekoGloop yep. 22:33 TheSlimShady well he laughed so he cant take it back :) 22:33 NekoGloop i laugh at your stupidity as well. 22:34 TheSlimShady sure you do NekoGloop 22:39 * Octupus is back 22:42 NekoGloop OH how i wish we could have shift-click in the inventory >.< 22:42 Octupus Y 22:42 NekoGloop rather than manually click and drag things out of chests? 22:43 Octupus O 22:44 Octupus Going on pc 22:44 Octupus Theslimshady: comin on now 22:46 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlY-oe37x_c&feature=g-vrec 22:46 Octupus TheSlimShady: Te gusts chic aristo 22:46 Octupus *chicarito 22:47 TheSlimShady i think you mean chicharito the football player 22:47 TheSlimShady right? 22:48 TheSlimShady i think you mean chicharito the football player 22:48 TheSlimShady * Octupus (~octupus@208.168.226.239) has left #minetest 22:48 TheSlimShady right? 22:48 TheSlimShady Octupus 22:48 TheSlimShady Octupus_ 22:48 Octupus_ yes 22:48 TheSlimShady no i dont lol 22:49 Octupus_ lol why? 22:50 TheSlimShady hes not that god 22:50 TheSlimShady good 22:50 TheSlimShady its all marketing 22:50 Octupus so who u like the best? 22:50 TheSlimShady football? van persi 22:50 Octupus He plays for manechester now 22:51 TheSlimShady yeah 22:51 Octupus used to play with arsensal 22:51 Octupus and what is ip for your server 22:52 TheSlimShady planetminetest.com its that 22:52 Octupus ok coming on now :) 22:52 Octupus My favorite is Ibrah 22:52 Octupus Boss 22:52 TheSlimShady dunno who that is lol 22:53 Octupus lol go onto internet and type in Ibrahmovic 22:53 TheSlimShady ohh ihave seen his image lol 22:53 Octupus he a boss :) 22:57 NekoGloop TheSlimShady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6MltGHO-lE&feature=related 22:57 TheSlimShady only faggs watch anime 22:57 TheSlimShady except octupus lol 22:58 Octupus i dont watch anime :l 22:58 Octupus lm i got threat on the server 22:58 NekoGloop how many idiots are going to say this is anime? 23:03 Kacey hello 23:03 OldCoder Kacey, Hi 23:03 Octupus Hi Kacey 23:03 Kacey i downloaded virtual box 23:04 Octupus cool 23:04 TheSlimShady cool story Kacey you griefing scum 23:04 NekoGloop Irony ^ 23:04 Kacey what 23:04 NekoGloop scum calling civilized people scum. 23:04 NekoGloop Irony, i detect it. 23:05 Kacey aah i see it 23:05 OldCoder NekoGloop, you are out spoken to be sure 23:05 TheSlimShady lol 23:05 NekoGloop OldCoder: ? 23:05 OldCoder NekoGloop, nothing; just musing 23:05 OldCoder About the best path to take 23:05 OldCoder Problem is, I am preoccupied 23:05 NekoGloop no, the best path to take is /ban TheSlimShady. 23:05 NekoGloop 8) 23:06 TheSlimShady i think what he means is you have a small pee pee 23:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, that opens a whole new set of issues 23:06 NekoGloop your dick is only bigger because you are one. 23:06 Octupus oh shit XD 23:06 OldCoder If there is any way to work things out that wouldd be good 23:06 * OldCoder sighs 23:06 OldCoder If I kicked both of you for like 5 minutes would you be pissed? 23:06 NekoGloop OldCoder: with LandMine? You kidding me right? 23:06 OldCoder I won't I think 23:07 OldCoder The issue is control 23:07 OldCoder Ironically I am writing 90 pages right now 23:07 Kacey oldcoder 23:07 OldCoder Elsewhere that comes down to that 23:07 OldCoder Kacey, yes? 23:07 NekoGloop Trying to set LandMine straight is like trying to make a planet flat. It's not possible. 23:07 OldCoder I am not going to attempt it 23:07 Kacey how do iget this vm to work 23:07 TheSlimShady same with your small pee pee 23:08 OldCoder Kacey, speak with mrtux today 23:08 NekoGloop Also, he shows his maturity very clearly. 23:08 Kacey how? 23:08 OldCoder Time will not permit much direct work 23:08 OldCoder I will see if he is around 23:08 Kacey k 23:08 Octupus :l 23:08 OldCoder Octupus, Hi 23:08 Octupus Hello 23:08 OldCoder Kacey, I have PMd 23:09 OldCoder If he stops by I'll ask him to tell you more 23:09 TheSlimShady NekoGloop how old are you? 23:09 NekoGloop HAHA as if I'd tell you. 23:09 NekoGloop You funny. 23:09 TheSlimShady whats funny about that? elaborate 23:10 Octupus lalalalala 23:10 Octupus downloading mt again lalala 23:10 Octupus when 2 ppl have an arguement are your just like "Oh shit" 23:12 Octupus When minetest is being an ass and your just like "Wtf" 23:12 NekoGloop When someone is being random you're just like "stfu." 23:13 Octupus who u talking 2 23:13 NekoGloop you. :3 23:13 OldCoder Kitty isn't one debate enough? 23:13 Octupus OHH OOHH U KNOW WHO U TALKING OOO U DONT KNOW ME 23:13 Octupus :P 23:13 Octupus Madea :) 23:13 OldCoder Not the Greek Tragedy I assume 23:13 NekoGloop I could uphold a conversation with everyone on this channel at once. 23:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, I don't doubt it 23:14 OldCoder Hmm 23:14 OldCoder Network problem 23:14 Kacey exept me 23:14 NekoGloop Let's hope he doesnt notice he disconnected. 23:14 mrtux kacey, i have sent you a PM 23:14 Octupus lolz 23:15 OldCoder Kacey, mrtux has a few minutes for VM 23:15 OldCoder But he will expect you to carry some of the load 23:15 Octupus hmm i need worldedito 23:15 OldCoder Octupus, in LM world? 23:16 Octupus no 23:16 Octupus i left there awhile ago 23:16 OldCoder I am in a conversation elsewhere for a bit but will return 23:16 Octupus ok 23:20 Kacey octu 23:21 Kacey i compiled a c file today with help from oldcoder 23:21 Octupus yes 23:21 Octupus ok :) 23:21 OldCoder Kacey, you are on your way! 23:23 Kacey i showed that to a kid and he was like if the computer says that it is bacon then it is bacon 23:24 OldCoder Fair nuff 23:25 Octupus Hi LAD 23:25 Kacey im gonna teach my bro how to do it now 23:26 NekoGloop OldCoder: you wouldnt happen to like bacon, would you? :P 23:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, I think I am hungry. But the bacon thing is because it seems to be the new meme for foo. 23:26 LAD heyOCtu 23:26 OldCoder In my day it was foo when you were being general. 23:27 NekoGloop who else thinks the yogscast should play minetest with the technic mod? :D 23:28 Kacey roosterteath crew should 23:28 Octupus Yogcast is the best :) 23:28 Octupus SIMON NOO 23:28 NekoGloop DONT USE THE DESTRUCTION CATALYST HERE!!! 23:29 Kacey OOH WTH MICHAEL 23:29 Kacey GAVIN SHUT UP!!!! 23:29 Octupus XD 23:29 OldCoder ? 23:29 NekoGloop YOU JUST DESTROYED OUR OIL REFINERIES! D: 23:29 Octupus XD 23:29 NekoGloop OldCoder: quoting yogscast videos. 23:29 Octupus i like simon :) 23:30 Kacey YA GAVIN SHUT UP YOU WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET THAT ACHIEVMENT!! 23:30 NekoGloop Diggy Diggy 'Ole! :D 23:30 OldCoder Kacey, a bit more softly perhaps 23:30 Kacey SHUT UP GEOFF 23:30 OldCoder I take it these are loud videos 23:30 Kacey very 23:30 Octupus Diggy Diggy Hole :) 23:30 NekoGloop OldCoder: they are usually yelling at each other xD 23:30 Kacey roosterteath almost deafened me 23:31 OldCoder I C 23:31 NekoGloop google yogscast tekkit for an example :3 23:31 Octupus Simon,Lets call this the Yogcave 23:31 Kacey I'LL MAP YOU INTO NEXT TUESDAY!!!! 23:32 NekoGloop XD 23:32 Octupus lolz 23:32 NekoGloop I've only watched their first terraria vid and their tekkit vids :P 23:32 Kacey hey octu 23:32 NekoGloop hm... gives me an idea. Why dont -we- have a destruction catalyst... 23:32 Octupus Yes Kacey 23:33 OldCoder What would it do? 23:33 NekoGloop Digs. A lot. 23:33 Kacey we should make a video of an average day in minetest 23:33 NekoGloop Kacey: lots of diggin'. 23:33 Octupus Lolz 23:33 Octupus not true 23:33 Kacey lol not if there is tnt XD 23:33 OldCoder We do need animation capture 23:33 Octupus Fun stuff on irc 23:34 Kacey lol yelling at landmine 23:34 OldCoder I don't think he minds yelling 23:34 Octupus no :l 23:34 OldCoder Octupus, do not be :l 23:34 Kacey banning landmine 23:34 NekoGloop I'm at -30045, not finding pretty stones! D: 23:34 Kacey lol 23:35 Octupus ok :# 23:35 Octupus :D 23:35 Kacey i made it to the bottom of the world after 8 days of consant digging 23:35 OldCoder How deep? 23:35 NekoGloop I used a teleporter :D 23:35 Kacey -350000 23:35 Kacey and then i fell to the top of the world 23:35 Octupus XD 23:35 Octupus my server? 23:35 NekoGloop YOU FELL UP!? 23:35 NekoGloop WHAT MAGIC IS THIS. 23:36 Kacey octu no 23:36 Kacey neko 23:36 Octupus o lolz 23:36 Kacey i ended up at the top of the world by digging down 23:36 cornernote hiyas 23:36 Kacey hello cornernote 23:36 NekoGloop Kacey: not possible. 23:36 NekoGloop I've done that, it doesnt do that. 23:36 cornernote how'd u do that Kacey ? 23:36 Kacey try it 23:37 cornernote how far did you dig ? 23:37 Kacey 8 days of consant digging and mountain dew 23:37 Kacey -350000 23:37 NekoGloop cornernote: I'm at -30045, not finding any pretty stones... D: 23:37 cornernote we are talking about MT right ? 23:37 Kacey yes 23:38 cornernote i thought it only goes from -31k-31k 23:38 cornernote but i dunno what happens if you go past the end 23:38 Kacey no 23:38 cornernote i think it crashes or something 23:38 Kacey no 23:38 NekoGloop no. 23:38 Kacey you glitch out and end up at the top of the world 23:38 NekoGloop you hit a point where mapgen refuses to run 23:38 NekoGloop basically solid air nodes. 23:39 NekoGloop no idea what Kacey is going on about though. 23:39 Kacey fall for a couple minutes and the coords turn positive and u fall to ur death 23:40 NekoGloop you dont fall at the end of the map. 23:40 cornernote i went /teleport 0,-350000,0 23:40 cornernote im not falling 23:40 NekoGloop cornernote: you'll crash likely in a few minutes. 23:41 cornernote i am at 0,-214748,0 23:41 NekoGloop The Y is too high. 23:41 Kacey you have to dig down there 23:41 cornernote so it didnt take me all the way there 23:41 NekoGloop low, rather. 23:41 cornernote dig from where ? 23:41 cornernote from 0 ? 23:41 cornernote lol 23:41 NekoGloop Kacey: wouldnt make a difference. 23:41 OldCoder cornernote, Hi 23:41 OldCoder cornernote, PM 23:42 Kacey not from 0 just teleport to ooh say 340000 and dig the rest of the way 23:42 NekoGloop I just did the teleport... 23:42 cornernote ok, i had fly on 23:42 cornernote now im falling 23:42 NekoGloop now I'm fallin 23:42 cornernote number is still negative 23:42 Kacey lol see 23:42 OldCoder cornernote, when you can please PM 23:42 NekoGloop and lagging like hell. 23:42 cornernote no lag here 23:43 cornernote ok, lag is kicking in now 23:43 NekoGloop Probably because I have a shitton of windows open. 23:43 cornernote im at -250k 23:43 NekoGloop FPS=0! :D 23:43 Kacey -350k is the bottom of the map 23:43 OldCoder Deep! 23:44 NekoGloop that's what she said. 23:44 cornernote -300k 23:44 cornernote is where i am 23:44 NekoGloop I'm technically already dead. 23:44 cornernote how ? 23:44 NekoGloop Game glitched my health a few minutes ago 23:45 cornernote -325k 23:45 NekoGloop I have no health but death event wasnt called. 23:45 cornernote maybe its due to be called, just lagging 23:45 NekoGloop no 23:45 NekoGloop I mean before i teleported 23:45 cornernote -350k 23:45 cornernote still negative 23:45 Octupus Hi Doc_ 23:46 cornernote -375k 23:46 Doc_ hey Octupus 23:46 NekoGloop GAH... PRESS I... TYPE... /...h....o....m....e......... 23:46 NekoGloop T, not I 23:46 cornernote -400k 23:46 NekoGloop minetest world just keeps going IIRC 23:47 NekoGloop mapgen stops sharply though 23:47 cornernote yeah 23:47 cornernote thats what i think too 23:47 cornernote just mapgen isnt here 23:47 cornernote i'll let you know when i hit -1M 23:47 NekoGloop See ya in a few years when lag stops. :D 23:47 Octupus WOW this is going to be a Big Ass Present :) 23:48 cornernote im at -450k now 23:48 NekoGloop lag is likely proportional to how far down you are... 23:48 cornernote wont be long 23:48 cornernote my cpu core is max'd at 100%, but fall speed is not too laggy 23:48 cornernote i cant play, its too laggy to play 23:48 cornernote well, that and there is no mapgen =) 23:48 NekoGloop My cpu isnt maxed. 23:49 NekoGloop but then again, I wasnt falling, my FPS was nil ;) 23:49 NekoGloop cornernote: http://ompldr.org/vZzVhbQ tell me what you think about my texture pack? :D 23:51 cornernote looks cool! nice 23:51 NekoGloop :D 23:52 cornernote personally i like 32x packs, i find they have a bit more room for detail, but they dont suck too much speed from the game 23:52 NekoGloop I tried to do a playground enviroment. 23:52 NekoGloop cornernote: you should try it out ingame :D 23:53 NekoGloop My position as per player file: position = (0,-2.28596e+006,0) 23:53 * VanessaE pokes at NekoGloop for signs of life 23:53 NekoGloop VanessaE: BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS..... 23:53 NekoGloop :D 23:53 VanessaE you rang? 23:54 NekoGloop You poked me :P 23:54 VanessaE [11-04 13:20] Is vanessae still about? 23:54 NekoGloop Oh wait i did want you earlier... Cant remember what for though. 23:54 NekoGloop Sorry :P 23:54 VanessaE :P 23:54 Octupus Hi VanessaE 23:55 NekoGloop Anyway, VanessaE I've updated my texture pack: http://ompldr.org/vZzVhbQ 23:55 VanessaE hi 23:55 VanessaE NekoGloop: use github dammit :-) 23:55 Octupus VanessaE,pm please 23:56 OldCoder VanessaE, hi 23:56 cornernote -850k 23:56 cornernote oh hey - it reset to positive numbers !!! 23:56 VanessaE ok.. 23:56 cornernote no, i'm just kidding, it didnt really =) 23:56 VanessaE hi OC 23:57 cornernote -900k 23:58 cornernote with FPS of 65 23:58 cornernote =) 23:58 cornernote wow, its really moving now 23:58 cornernote ok, no back down to FPS=3 23:58 NekoGloop Hey i was at FPS 0 :P 23:58 Doc_ lol 23:58 VanessaE ? 23:58 Doc_ that sounds like my old computer 23:58 Doc_ i have one from 2000 23:58 NekoGloop testing how far down the world really goes. 23:58 Doc_ and one from 2004 23:59 cornernote i guess as you fall it sucks your computer dry trying to mapgen 23:59 Doc_ cool 23:59 Doc_ lol 23:59 cornernote i cant get FPS=0 .. only 1 23:59 Doc_ someone want to play with me 23:59 Doc_ I got a server 23:59 Doc_ and i play legit 23:59 Doc_ no lava/hacks etc