Time Nick Message 00:01 NakedFury regex for what? 00:01 khonkhortisan processing the //cylinder worldedit command's parameters 00:01 khonkhortisan I'm adding another radius so it can do cones too 00:02 khonkhortisan local found, _, axis, length, radius1, nodename = param:find("^([xyz%?])%s+([+-]?%d+)%s+(%d+)%s+([^%s]+)$") is what I started with 00:10 NakedFury I should prepare myself, minetest.org server zero is apparently sick and could die! 00:13 OldCoder NakedFury, I wish to repair it 00:13 OldCoder Perhaps in a few minutes 00:13 OldCoder I need info on worldedit 00:13 OldCoder khonkhortisan IIRC has found me coords 00:13 OldCoder If deleting the sick region will force regenerate 00:13 OldCoder Then I will do it 00:14 OldCoder Or anybody who wishes to help 00:14 OldCoder can get worldedit priv 00:14 NakedFury im trying to find why its happening by myself. 00:14 NakedFury I can play a few minutes then it freezes and I have to exit 00:14 NakedFury when I re enter everything is back where it was 00:15 NakedFury so I can find a mese area mine them exit wait a few minutes and repeat 00:15 NakedFury or any ore 00:17 NakedFury what would I have to do with worldedit? 00:18 OldCoder NakedFury, that is for the damaged region 00:18 OldCoder If you have a lockup problem 00:18 khonkhortisan I haven't heard of a way to regenerate sections 00:18 OldCoder We can coordinate 00:18 VanessaE solution: use worldedit to save everything of value to multiple .we files, delete the offending world database file, but keep the meta file with the seed. Let MT generate the world from scratch, then use worldedit to copy the buildings back in. 00:18 OldCoder khonkhortisan, RBA thought it might happen 00:18 OldCoder 00:18 OldCoder VanessaE, Does not work 00:18 VanessaE verify that the world is as it should be, then put the repaired world live. 00:18 OldCoder I wish to do that with 30001 00:18 OldCoder Wait 00:18 OldCoder I wish to do that with 30001 00:19 OldCoder But 00:19 OldCoder khonkhortisan has found a WE bug 00:19 OldCoder We need to fix 00:19 VanessaE which is? 00:19 OldCoder savemeta and loadmeta 00:19 OldCoder do not do what they say 00:19 OldCoder khonkhortisan, is this correct? 00:19 khonkhortisan chests come back with a non-functional inventory 00:19 VanessaE oh. 00:19 khonkhortisan yes 00:19 VanessaE wait 00:19 OldCoder So WE fix is a priority 00:19 VanessaE what about the utility I saw on the forums recently that saves out pieces of the world directly? 00:19 khonkhortisan the inventory isn't cleared like it is with regular save and lead 00:19 khonkhortisan *load 00:19 VanessaE worldsplice or something? 00:19 OldCoder VanessaE, it will save the damage 00:20 OldCoder as it copies the blocks and not just the schems 00:20 OldCoder I have that program BTW 00:20 OldCoder So... 00:20 OldCoder WE is a priority I think 00:20 OldCoder I will look at it myself but I am a novice at this part 00:20 VanessaE hrm. ok then 00:21 VanessaE hmmmm mentioned that it should be rather trivial to write a program to extract the differences between a fresh world and an old one of the same seed and copy those differences to a fresh file 00:22 VanessaE that would not only repair the broken world, it would also allow stuff like moreores to start populating areas that haven't been modified yet 00:24 NakedFury if its about an external program similar to worldedit then there is something in minecraft called MCEdit. Its open source and I think that with some changes it could be possible to edit it to work for minetest. 00:42 OldCoder VanessaE, NakedFury I agree with both of you 00:42 OldCoder IRL issues prevent me from spending much time on code ATM however 00:52 khonkhortisan spending TMT IRL ATM 01:03 iqualfragile1 what is RL and what is TMT 01:04 NakedFury I think he said 01:04 NakedFury spending too much time-tmt in real life-irl at the moment- atm 01:04 NakedFury completely crazy use of initials 01:04 khonkhortisan yep 01:05 iqualfragile1 what is real life? 01:05 NakedFury misery and death 01:05 khonkhortisan joy and birth 01:06 NakedFury with ocasional happy seconds and success that lasts minutes 01:06 NakedFury ohh and good cgi movies 01:06 khonkhortisan if you trade time for money, it does last only minutes 01:07 NakedFury time is going too fast right now 01:07 NakedFury not enough of it to enjoy it 01:08 NakedFury ok. Im going to time how long I can play on the server. see if that helps to better discover the problems. 01:13 NakedFury 3 minutes and 19 seconds 01:14 NakedFury character stops moving or cant look around but mining is possible but blocks cant be mined. so I can only click as If I could start mining 01:17 NakedFury ====report end==== 01:19 OldCoder R 01:19 OldCoder NakedFury, I will finish elsewhere and go into debug mode on this 01:20 OldCoder ty 01:20 NakedFury no hurry. just reporting in a more accurate way. 01:20 NakedFury at most 3 minutes before the character cant move or look or mine but still swing the hand 01:21 NakedFury I should check with the other client. I am using vanessas client for this 01:28 iqualfragile1 gn8 01:35 OldCoder Hmm 01:36 OldCoder Check with standard client NakedFury if possible 01:42 NakedFury weird cant do anything screen stuck at: Waiting content... (press Escape to cancel) [X] Item Definitions [X] Node definitions [0%] media. going for 3 minutes now 01:43 NakedFury ok connected 01:44 NakedFury apparently it was downloading media but never updated the % 01:47 NakedFury same problem at 3 minutes 01:51 OldCoder hmm 01:51 OldCoder We can debug 01:51 OldCoder checking logs 01:52 OldCoder NakedFury, studying full debug log 01:52 NakedFury ok 01:55 hmmmm [20:42] IRL issues prevent me from spending much time on code ATM however 01:55 hmmmm like being incompetent 01:56 OldCoder 01:50:49: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): Receive(): Peer not found 01:56 OldCoder NakedFury, I am seeing about 2 minutes of this 01:57 OldCoder Any chance it is related? 01:57 NakedFury dont know, should I try again to see if it comes? 01:59 OldCoder Let us sync time 01:59 OldCoder Hold on 01:59 OldCoder I am going to restart that world 01:59 OldCoder with one mod removed 02:01 OldCoder NakedFury, I may try something simple and deeper 02:02 OldCoder Hmm 02:02 OldCoder The delay is just at connect? 02:02 OldCoder No 02:02 OldCoder It locks up during play 02:02 OldCoder NakedFury, I am making a temporary world 02:02 OldCoder Don't worry if things are broken 02:04 NakedFury tell me when to connect 02:05 OldCoder Now 02:05 OldCoder This is a copy of the world 02:05 NakedFury 30000? 02:05 OldCoder It may crash immediate 02:05 OldCoder Yes 02:05 OldCoder We can debug this way 02:05 OldCoder With a copy 02:08 OldCoder NakedFury, I see you there. Page as soon as a problem occurs 02:08 OldCoder Oops 02:08 OldCoder It just did 02:08 OldCoder Down you go 02:08 NakedFury ok i will 02:08 OldCoder Reviewing 02:08 OldCoder Too late :P 02:08 OldCoder You just crashe 02:08 OldCoder d 02:08 NakedFury my game never changed I could still move 02:09 OldCoder Yes 02:09 NakedFury and no msg either 02:09 OldCoder Reviewing 02:09 OldCoder It was a segfault 02:09 OldCoder To debug this 02:09 OldCoder I can run the game in gdb 02:09 OldCoder Whoa 02:10 OldCoder All kinds of damage 02:10 OldCoder Reviewing 02:11 OldCoder NakedFury, I think 30000 is hosed until we excess the damaged region 02:11 OldCoder I am seeing all kinds of NULL BLOCK errors 02:11 OldCoder and reports of database damage 02:12 OldCoder But the database integrity seems O.K. 02:12 OldCoder Hold on 02:14 khonkhortisan what's a null block? 02:14 OldCoder NakedFury, I have reverted to a recent backup 02:14 OldCoder NakedFury, try it now 02:15 OldCoder khonkhortisan, one moment 02:15 OldCoder WARNING: void ManualMapVoxelManipulator:: 02:15 OldCoder blitBackAll(irr::core::map, MapBlock*>*): 02:15 OldCoder got NULL block (4,-18,-17) 02:15 OldCoder 02:15 OldCoder I have a lot of those 02:16 OldCoder I think it's from the damaged region 02:16 OldCoder We wish to repair with WE 02:16 OldCoder teleport to that location 02:16 OldCoder if those are coords 02:16 OldCoder and we'll see 02:17 NakedFury cant reach that area 02:18 NakedFury its within the mising region 02:19 OldCoder So that *is* the problem 02:19 OldCoder NakedFury, the world is hosed 02:19 OldCoder until WorldEdit is fixed 02:19 NakedFury ok weird 02:19 OldCoder Wait 02:19 OldCoder What if 02:19 OldCoder I filled the region with air 02:19 NakedFury I cant reach the area from the top but i cant mine under it 02:19 OldCoder How large is it? 02:19 OldCoder That should work 02:20 OldCoder We could try that now 02:20 OldCoder khonkhortisan got me the coords 02:20 OldCoder Give me a few minutes and I will try 02:21 NakedFury -17,4.5,-16 corner 1. 02:21 NakedFury dont know the other corner 02:21 OldCoder He found it earlier 02:22 OldCoder I'll check the logs and repair this 02:22 OldCoder Wrapping up something elsewhere 02:22 OldCoder Will finish soon 02:22 OldCoder NakedFury, is that the SW corner? 02:22 NakedFury dont know. never checked the sun 02:23 OldCoder k 02:23 OldCoder wait 02:23 NakedFury its the corner next to the little mine entrance there was 02:23 NakedFury completely opposite the glass with water for water mills and solar panels and on the same side as the trees 02:23 OldCoder NakedFury, *you* found the coords for me 02:23 OldCoder (-16.7, 3.5, -16.2) 02:24 OldCoder 15.6, 1.5, -32.8 02:24 NakedFury those 02:24 OldCoder Look familiar? 02:24 NakedFury yeah, yesterday I think 02:24 OldCoder I will try to repair for you shortly 02:24 OldCoder NakedFury, Can you check the command to fill with air? 02:24 OldCoder Or any other option you wish? 02:25 khonkhortisan after the positions are correct, it's //set air 02:25 NakedFury --Filling a Region-- 02:25 NakedFury Type //set blockname and wait for "X Blocks changed" 02:26 VanessaE no0 02:26 VanessaE no 02:26 VanessaE use //dig 02:26 VanessaE /set air won't force recalculating the lighting. 02:26 VanessaE //dig will. 02:26 OldCoder k 02:26 OldCoder Will proceed momentarily 02:27 OldCoder or in < 5 min 02:27 OldCoder //set blockname 02:27 OldCoder dig or //set baconblock ? 02:27 OldCoder Is there a blocktype that would work? 02:28 khonkhortisan anything would work except //replace, if you have null blocks 02:28 VanessaE /dig (no arguments) will act like //set air except it'll force the game to recalculate the lighting in theat area 02:28 VanessaE //dig I mean 02:28 khonkhortisan /dig will be slower than //set air, but you'll regret using //set air. 02:29 OldCoder use //dig or //set blockname? 02:29 khonkhortisan use //dig 02:29 OldCoder Is there a blocktype that would work? 02:29 OldCoder k 02:29 VanessaE no. 02:29 VanessaE unless you just wanna replace everything with dirt or something, which is also A Bad Idea ™ 02:30 khonkhortisan well, you could make it its own town "I live in a cave in DirtCube, where do you live?" 02:31 VanessaE haha 02:31 khonkhortisan If you get rid of the null blocks and have the map seed, you could manually replace from generated 02:31 OldCoder khonkhortisan, But for the WE bug. 02:32 OldCoder Or are you referring to something else? 02:32 OldCoder Oh 02:32 OldCoder Manually! 02:32 OldCoder Yes 02:32 OldCoder There won't be any meta in the blocks 02:32 OldCoder So that would work 02:32 khonkhortisan yeah no meta 02:32 OldCoder ty 02:32 OldCoder We will try //dig 02:32 VanessaE I think he means generating a new map and //save from there and then //load into this map to replace the broken area once it has been cleared 02:34 OldCoder yes 02:34 OldCoder VanessaE, that is correct 02:34 OldCoder But this is a small region I think 02:34 OldCoder //dig might be fine 02:34 OldCoder VanessaE, If we can fix WorldEdit 02:34 OldCoder And I can get the logic 02:34 OldCoder I can probably do a repair tool 02:34 OldCoder That rebuilds worlds automatically 02:34 OldCoder Preserving all but damage 02:34 OldCoder 02:35 VanessaE might be sufficient to //dig to get rid of everything, reset your coords to a smaller region and //set default:dirt so there's at least some land to walk on 02:41 OldCoder VanessaE, will try very shortly 02:44 NakedFury OldCoder you should try cornernotes WorldEdit GUI addon for WorldEdit 02:44 NakedFury has all the commands on buttons 02:48 OldCoder NakedFury, Yes 02:48 OldCoder But not important ATM 02:49 OldCoder Sorry for delay; fixing something elsewhere 02:49 NakedFury okay no problem 02:49 NakedFury im ready for testing as soon as you say go 02:49 OldCoder Yes 02:50 NakedFury been browsing the code of some mods and watching tv online too 02:55 OldCoder k 03:02 OldCoder 03:02 OldCoder Proceeding 03:05 OldCoder I'm working on this now 03:14 OldCoder Well that did weird stuff 03:14 OldCoder working further 03:19 NakedFury before you started I was able to to go under that invisible block and mine then go up to the surface and see my tunnel 03:23 OldCoder Well *this* is weird 03:23 OldCoder NakedFury, Hang around 03:23 OldCoder This is interesting 03:23 OldCoder 03:23 OldCoder I //digged the bad region 03:24 OldCoder Then 03:24 OldCoder made a blank worl 03:24 OldCoder dd 03:24 OldCoder Made a schema from that 03:24 OldCoder Just pasted the schema in 03:24 OldCoder The results are odd 03:24 OldCoder I look forward to your comments 03:25 NakedFury can I connect now? 03:25 OldCoder In a minute 03:25 OldCoder Moving the world back 03:27 OldCoder NakedFury, connect please 03:28 OldCoder What do you make of it? 03:28 NakedFury connecting 03:28 OldCoder Should I increase the timeout used by the server? 03:29 OldCoder 03:28:34: ACTION[ServerThread]: NakedFury times out. 03:29 NakedFury you post that and the game loads 03:29 OldCoder ? 03:29 OldCoder you got in afterward 03:29 NakedFury yeah but my screen was black 03:29 NakedFury as soon as you posted I was able to see 03:30 OldCoder There is still damage I think 03:30 NakedFury I guess a repairing it will be impossible then 03:30 OldCoder wait and see 03:30 OldCoder 0, 0, -3 03:30 OldCoder There may be another small region 03:31 OldCoder Block failed to save (0, 1, -2) SQL logic error or missing database 03:31 OldCoder Right around the origin 03:31 OldCoder Is there a problem there? 03:31 OldCoder And what do you make of the region I just fixed? 03:31 NakedFury well I always saw some Unknown Blocks near the origin area 03:32 NakedFury in the form of trees 03:32 NakedFury could that be it? 03:32 OldCoder NakedFury, Give me corners there and I'll try to repair them 03:32 OldCoder Yes 03:32 OldCoder But first 03:32 OldCoder Look at the region you know about 03:33 NakedFury http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/p9xtzrt67 03:33 OldCoder r 03:33 NakedFury that is what I see 03:33 NakedFury but give me a second to make an tunnel under it 03:33 OldCoder ?! 03:33 OldCoder Stop 03:33 OldCoder That is not right 03:33 OldCoder I filled it in 03:33 OldCoder Let me check this 03:33 OldCoder ?! 03:33 NakedFury http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/qv95isyr3 03:33 NakedFury another screen from higher view 03:34 NakedFury I keep seeing that 03:34 NakedFury EXTREMELY weird 03:34 NakedFury have never seen that before 03:38 OldCoder NakedFury, Try now 03:38 OldCoder What do you see now? 03:38 OldCoder I have filled it in 03:38 NakedFury ok in a moment, need to load game 03:38 OldCoder What do you see now? 03:39 OldCoder khonkhortisan, wb 03:39 NakedFury same. I run into a wall 03:39 NakedFury the last place I can move into is where my character is at 03:39 khonkhortisan gimped a blender animation and thrashed my computer to death 03:39 OldCoder What do you see? 03:40 OldCoder Visually? 03:40 OldCoder NakedFury, I see water filling the hole 03:40 OldCoder But it is traveling in different directions 03:40 NakedFury http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/hjmtux1t 03:40 OldCoder R 03:40 NakedFury its weird 03:40 OldCoder NakedFury, I don't see that 03:41 NakedFury I cant move into it 03:41 OldCoder NakedFury, I see water filling the hole 03:41 OldCoder Is this possible? 03:41 OldCoder I will restart the server and check 03:41 NakedFury I dont know why that happens 03:41 NakedFury do you think its possible for me to delete my cache copy or whatever of that server and enter again? 03:42 OldCoder NakedFury, May not need to 03:42 OldCoder Restarted server 03:42 OldCoder Try now 03:42 OldCoder Problem is 03:42 OldCoder You will reload the music 03:42 OldCoder 10 minutes 03:42 OldCoder Come in now and check 03:44 OldCoder 03:44 OldCoder NakedFury, It seems to be repaired 03:44 OldCoder Except for the part near the origin 03:44 OldCoder Come and see 03:44 NakedFury no 03:44 NakedFury http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/7_pgmic_v 03:44 NakedFury that is how I see under it 03:45 OldCoder Wait 03:45 OldCoder I am coming to you 03:45 OldCoder we 03:45 NakedFury http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/4g0ejbfbi 03:45 NakedFury that is my tunnnel 03:45 OldCoder are looking at different pieces 03:46 OldCoder Is this within the region that you gave me? 03:46 NakedFury yes 03:46 OldCoder I will dig it again while you watch 03:46 NakedFury ok watching 03:48 OldCoder dug 03:48 OldCoder NakedFury, does it appear dug? 03:48 NakedFury ok my report: saw you make that and rapidly saw a bunch of sand moving then disappear again 03:48 OldCoder NakedFury, is #2 deep enough? 03:48 OldCoder Is that the problem? 03:48 NakedFury dont know why but its my copy only 03:48 OldCoder NakedFury, is #2 deep enough? 03:48 OldCoder Is that the problem? 03:49 NakedFury try 2 down from where it is 03:49 NakedFury that will cover all the area I cant see or touch or step into 03:50 OldCoder I have just done this 03:50 NakedFury if it was at 15.6, 1.5, -32 then try 03:51 NakedFury 15.6, -1.5, -32 03:51 bulletrulz hello 03:51 OldCoder bulletrulz, hi 03:51 NakedFury hi 03:51 OldCoder NakedFury, I dug 03:51 OldCoder and then dug dirt 03:51 bulletrulz hows it goinf 03:52 NakedFury ok new stuff 03:52 NakedFury where am I now in the world? 03:52 NakedFury at height of 15.5 I can walk on air 03:52 OldCoder I see you 03:52 NakedFury screenshot coming 03:52 OldCoder I will try to fill 03:52 OldCoder What is the command to get pos1 and pos2 ? 03:52 NakedFury http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/9gtjwr9xi 03:53 NakedFury .//pos1 and //pos2 03:53 OldCoder No that is to set 03:53 OldCoder I need to get 03:53 NakedFury umm //p get 03:54 NakedFury to Show the selected positions and //p set to set the position 03:54 bulletrulz heyOLDCODER DO U MINd uploading a minetest .deb for me i cant go on https sites? 03:54 OldCoder bulletrulz, Fine but ATM repairing a worl 03:54 OldCoder d 03:54 OldCoder NakedFury, server is not responding to commands 03:55 OldCoder I think we're down 03:55 bulletrulz OldCoder, ty 03:55 OldCoder I will fill 04:01 khonkhortisan Does github not animate gifs? 04:02 OldCoder ? 04:02 khonkhortisan oh. That's flickr's fault. 04:02 OldCoder bulletrulz, Didn't you have SolusOS ? 04:03 bulletrulz OldCoder, well the solusOS team told me that they might stop making so i switched to lubuntu 12.10 today 04:03 OldCoder k 04:04 OldCoder working on problem 04:04 bulletrulz k 04:05 OldCoder bulletrulz, I will be happy to 04:06 bulletrulz i just need the one from github? 04:06 khonkhortisan [ ] As animation -> [X] As animation 04:07 OldCoder server keeps crashing after teleport 04:09 OldCoder 04:09 OldCoder NakedFury, khonkhortisan The server keeps crashing on an empty worl 04:09 OldCoder d 04:10 OldCoder I think 04:10 OldCoder there is somewhere odd about that seed 04:10 OldCoder 5 crashes in a row 04:10 NakedFury the same world as my problem? 04:10 OldCoder Yes 04:10 khonkhortisan How would I try the seed? 04:10 OldCoder Crashes 04:10 OldCoder khonkhortisan, If you wish 04:10 OldCoder I will restart it in a moment 04:10 OldCoder checking things 04:10 khonkhortisan that would make a great bug if a seed crashed something 04:11 OldCoder I have a theory 04:11 OldCoder Working 04:13 OldCoder If it crashes now 04:13 OldCoder It is the Seed of Death 04:13 OldCoder I deleted *everything* 04:13 OldCoder but the seed file 04:13 bulletrulz OldCoder, LOL 04:14 OldCoder Yep 04:14 OldCoder Crashed *again* 04:17 OldCoder Teleport is related 04:18 OldCoder Can anybody tell me why teleport often doesn't do anything? 04:18 NakedFury no idea, never used it 04:20 OldCoder Teleport crashes this world 04:20 OldCoder Even if it is empty 04:24 OldCoder No 04:24 OldCoder This is a deathworld 04:24 OldCoder It just dies ?! 04:24 OldCoder Even when empty 04:24 NakedFury have you tried all the stuff on another world? 04:24 NakedFury teleporting loading that schematic, etc etc etc 04:24 OldCoder NakedFury, Yes 04:24 OldCoder But too soon to be sure 04:25 OldCoder NakedFury, ATK 04:25 OldCoder ATM 04:25 NakedFury if it as you said then that is a fucked up seed 04:25 OldCoder This world just dies 04:25 OldCoder Even if you are flying around 04:25 OldCoder I am going to 04:25 OldCoder build a debug server 04:25 OldCoder and see WTF is happening 04:25 OldCoder It just crashes 04:25 OldCoder BUILD=debug ? 04:26 OldCoder What is the BUILD setting? 04:26 khonkhortisan What seed? spread the disease! 04:26 OldCoder khonkhortisan, I will 04:26 OldCoder but I wish to find the server crash 04:26 OldCoder This is so reproducible 04:26 OldCoder It is an opportunity 04:26 OldCoder What is the BUILD setting? 04:26 khonkhortisan CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE = Release 04:27 OldCoder No 04:27 OldCoder This is for debug 04:27 OldCoder I will run it in gdb 04:27 khonkhortisan = Debug 04:27 OldCoder k 04:28 OldCoder compiling 04:41 OldCoder anunakki, hi 04:42 OldCoder bulletrulz, which Debian deb do you wish? 04:42 bulletrulz OldCoder, i want the pricise deb from github 04:43 bulletrulz thanks OldCoder 04:45 OldCoder bulletrulz, are you able to find a link? 04:46 OldCoder or get me as close as you can 04:46 bulletrulz minetest.net/download 04:46 bulletrulz then go to unstable / ubuntu the click on pricise 04:47 OldCoder I see the word 04:48 OldCoder But it is not a link 04:48 OldCoder Does this need Flash or something? 04:48 OldCoder wait 04:49 OldCoder bulletrulz, i386 or amd64? 04:50 OldCoder http://minetest.org/precise.deb 04:50 OldCoder bulletrulz, ^ 04:50 OldCoder 05:03 OldCoder NakedFury, are you awake? 05:03 NakedFury yes 05:03 OldCoder Join 30020 please 05:03 NakedFury ok 05:04 OldCoder what do you see? 05:05 NakedFury dammit same thing 05:05 NakedFury this is ridiculous 05:06 OldCoder ? 05:06 OldCoder I don't see it 05:06 OldCoder Wait 05:06 NakedFury gonna try with the oter client 05:06 NakedFury other 05:08 OldCoder I think I found the crash anyway 05:08 OldCoder Compiler optimization 05:11 NakedFury I dont know why that keeps happening to me 05:11 OldCoder It isn't you 05:11 OldCoder I think that hole 05:11 OldCoder goes all the way down 05:12 OldCoder NakedFury, do you have fly and teleport? 05:12 NakedFury impossible I can mine under it 05:12 NakedFury no 05:12 OldCoder Wait 05:12 bulletrulz wow this guys a dick http://pastebin.com/pHCRwQdq hes a ubuntu mod 05:12 OldCoder granted but server is ignoring 05:13 OldCoder NakedFury, wait 05:13 OldCoder NakedFury, Before you go wait a bit 05:13 NakedFury ok 05:13 NakedFury ill wait a few minutes 05:14 OldCoder NakedFury, I think this world is done for 05:14 NakedFury yeah I think so too 05:14 NakedFury so many problems keep happening 05:14 OldCoder If we can fix WE 05:14 OldCoder I'll move buildings over 05:14 NakedFury it is truly the seed of death 05:14 OldCoder Nah 05:14 OldCoder I think I have that fixed 05:14 OldCoder The compiler optims are probably too strong 05:17 OldCoder NakedFury, come on in 05:17 NakedFury 30020? 05:17 OldCoder Yes 05:20 OldCoder NakedFury, final attempt 05:20 OldCoder I dug a very deep hole 05:20 OldCoder and I am now filling with dirt 05:23 OldCoder NakedFury, No dice 05:23 OldCoder I think that's it 05:24 OldCoder Try to convince WE author to fix it 05:24 NakedFury yeah 05:24 OldCoder and I'll save the structures 05:24 khonkhortisan that'd be Uberi 05:24 OldCoder Yes 05:24 OldCoder We'll start a new 30000 world tomorrow 05:24 OldCoder Debate the settings you wish 05:24 NakedFury we should have a few seconds of silence in memory of that world 05:24 OldCoder Yes 05:24 * OldCoder bows his head 05:24 OldCoder But it is not gone 05:24 OldCoder Only sleeping 05:24 * NakedFury bow head 05:24 OldCoder I will revive it if possible 05:25 NakedFury done 05:25 khonkhortisan To be awakened again in another time 05:25 OldCoder Indee 05:25 OldCoder d 05:25 OldCoder I am building the server again 05:25 OldCoder With -O2 instead of -O3 05:25 OldCoder This will apparently be less crashy 05:25 NakedFury a what? 05:26 OldCoder Does anybody have patches they recommend 05:26 NakedFury is that the seed? 05:26 OldCoder The MT server program 05:26 OldCoder No 05:26 OldCoder We may get 05:26 OldCoder fewer crashes in the future 05:26 OldCoder Worlds will be down for a few minutes 05:26 OldCoder I am recompiling the program 05:26 OldCoder I think some of the recent crashes 05:26 OldCoder were because 05:26 OldCoder MT uses aggressive compiler optimizations 05:27 OldCoder So some good will come of this 05:28 khonkhortisan VanessaE, why'd you make me have the most recent pull request again? 05:29 khonkhortisan I mean issue. 05:30 OldCoder khonkhortisan, VanessaE, anybody; does anybody have server patches to add? I am rebuilding 05:30 khonkhortisan I only have a client patch 05:30 OldCoder That is good 05:30 OldCoder What you got? 05:30 khonkhortisan https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/268 05:30 OldCoder R 05:31 khonkhortisan image_buttons are image_buttons, not image_blackness 05:31 OldCoder how would I apply this? 05:31 OldCoder What's the filename? 05:31 khonkhortisan um... 05:31 OldCoder I'll include it in my clients 05:32 OldCoder If you'll tell me 05:33 OldCoder and how do I list other pull requests? 05:33 khonkhortisan ah, git diff HEAD^ HEAD. 05:33 khonkhortisan The Pull Requests or Issues buttons 05:34 OldCoder I don't know how to do that. Searching existing code. 05:34 OldCoder Is this in chatcommands? 05:34 khonkhortisan https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pulls 05:35 OldCoder That doesn't work for me 05:35 khonkhortisan okay. 05:35 OldCoder Don't know why 05:36 khonkhortisan https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/268/files 05:36 OldCoder k 05:37 OldCoder k 05:37 khonkhortisan In src/guiFormSpecMenu.cpp add a new line at 461 and put "e->setUseAlphaChannel(true);" there 05:37 OldCoder Yes 05:37 OldCoder om 05:37 khonkhortisan I don't really know a good way to get a diff out of a commit 05:37 OldCoder It's fine 05:38 OldCoder Added to my codebase 05:39 NakedFury could hotbar slots be added a lua hook? 05:39 OldCoder Adding VanessaE filtering 05:40 khonkhortisan I still have to try that 05:42 NakedFury I use them 05:42 NakedFury mipmap antiso tropic something and tri linear 05:43 khonkhortisan Do they have in-game settings yet? 05:43 OldCoder Config file 05:43 VanessaE checkboxes in the Settings menu 05:43 NakedFury yes 05:43 OldCoder VanessaE, is that in the code I'm getting? 05:44 NakedFury excellent checkboxes 05:44 VanessaE OldCoder: yep 05:44 VanessaE if you used this one": http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/video-settings-with-gui-2.patch 05:44 NakedFury we need all config options inside the game with check boxes or drop down lists 05:44 OldCoder I am getting from git VanessaE 05:44 VanessaE ok 05:44 OldCoder will that work? 05:44 VanessaE the pull request I made is the same. 05:45 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3410 05:46 OldCoder merged 05:46 OldCoder VanessaE, is there a way to get a diff from git? 05:47 VanessaE I don't know how off the top of my head 05:47 VanessaE wait 05:47 khonkhortisan git diff HEAD^ HEAD but you have to have it locally 05:48 VanessaE nope, dunno how OldCoder 05:48 OldCoder khonkhortisan, don't know that yet 05:48 OldCoder VanessaE, ty 05:49 OldCoder I'm changing texture atlas default to false 05:50 VanessaE good idea 05:50 OldCoder O.K. 05:50 OldCoder I have some changes of mine 05:50 OldCoder the khonkhortisan commit 05:50 OldCoder and the filters 05:50 OldCoder checking others 05:51 OldCoder Jordach has waited a month for a one line change? 05:51 khonkhortisan I have a one line change, I guess I won't check up on it then. 05:51 NakedFury tell me about the build then 05:52 OldCoder NakedFury, ? 05:52 OldCoder NakedFury, I am building the server again to fix crashes 05:52 NakedFury all this changes you are talking about 05:52 OldCoder yes? 05:52 OldCoder NakedFury, I am building the server again to fix crashes 05:52 OldCoder Making other fixes at same time 05:54 OldCoder Any reason 05:54 OldCoder not to have apple trees? 05:54 VanessaE you can grow them by planting saplings 05:54 VanessaE but maybe because c55 wants the game to have lots of shit that kills you 05:54 VanessaE I guess having too much food negates that 05:55 OldCoder 2241 05:55 OldCoder - make_tree(vmanip, p, myrand_range(), ndef); 05:55 OldCoder 2241 05:55 OldCoder + make_tree(vmanip, p, myrand_range(1,4), ndef); 05:55 OldCoder So this is good? 05:55 VanessaE dunno, maybe 05:55 NakedFury will I need a new client to have those changes? 05:56 OldCoder NakedFury, Yes except for the crash fix 05:56 OldCoder that is server side 05:56 RealBadAngel hi all 05:56 OldCoder RealBadAngel, hi 05:56 VanessaE morning RBA 05:57 NakedFury I will need a windows version 05:57 OldCoder NakedFury, I can build one 05:57 NakedFury thanks because I just cant get cmake to work 05:57 OldCoder I already have for previous 05:58 RealBadAngel VanessaE, i started yesterday to make new creative, take a look: http://realbadangel.pl/another_size.png 05:58 OldCoder oh 05:58 OldCoder He fixed apples just 12 hours ago 05:59 VanessaE RealBadAngel: not bad...but where's the rest? :-) 05:59 RealBadAngel it was just the start 05:59 RealBadAngel i made image_buttons with inventory cubes on them 05:59 VanessaE ah ok 05:59 RealBadAngel and theyre different sized 06:00 VanessaE did you see the fix khonkhortisan posted to give buttons a transparent background? 06:00 RealBadAngel so we can have more items on screen at the same time 06:00 OldCoder VanessaE, it is merged 06:00 VanessaE OldCoder: cool 06:00 RealBadAngel yeah, im gonna need it 06:00 khonkhortisan RealBadAngel, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/268 06:01 khonkhortisan I don't know how to get rid of the button, but at least it's not black. 06:01 khonkhortisan hmmmm gets credit 06:01 VanessaE bbl, bedtime. 06:01 VanessaE night all 06:01 OldCoder n 06:02 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, hey, i cant see the button frames 06:02 RealBadAngel at least when im using it 06:02 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/another_size.png 06:02 RealBadAngel look again 06:02 khonkhortisan yeah, if the image_button[ isn't transparent at all, it looks just like an image[ 06:03 khonkhortisan All those black squares should look like buttons 06:05 OldCoder to do more of these I'll need diffs. so that's it for now 06:06 khonkhortisan Maybe the dcc didn't work because I didn't add a filename extension. 06:06 khonkhortisan oh well. 06:09 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, could you look on how to add tooltips for buttons? 06:10 TheRedMood Well 06:10 TheRedMood Bye all 06:10 TheRedMood I am going away over the weekend 06:10 OldCoder k 06:10 khonkhortisan How do you make buttons smaller? 06:10 OldCoder have fun 06:11 TheRedMood So I will have to say my good byes now 06:11 TheRedMood Thanks a lot OldCoder :D 06:11 TheRedMood I hope you have a nice weekend to! 06:11 TheRedMood Lot of coding and updating going on? 06:11 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, easy :) use floats instead of integers :) 06:11 RealBadAngel work with coordinates too 06:12 khonkhortisan okay. Do you know how to catch right-click instead of going into a formspec? 06:12 RealBadAngel no 06:13 RealBadAngel we should add on_right_click to nodes methods 06:15 khonkhortisan nonono it should be called allow_formspec 06:15 khonkhortisan that way we catch right click and can dis/enable the menu 06:15 NakedFury nonono nonono it should be called allow_formspec and an extra on_right_click 06:16 khonkhortisan ? Then they would have different arguments. 06:16 khonkhortisan Why have two? 06:16 NakedFury because its more than 1 06:16 NakedFury XD 06:16 NakedFury muajajajajaja 06:16 khonkhortisan allow_formspec would run an on_right_click function and still return for allowing/disallowing. 06:17 TheRedMood Well more API functions are always good 06:18 TheRedMood Or it isen't functiosn rather 06:18 TheRedMood But calls 06:18 TheRedMood But okey, I am not going to correct my own terminology that much. 06:18 khonkhortisan formspec would be much better if it wasn't a string, you could edit the menu based on what buttons were pressed, or spawn entities in front of the player while they're distracted. 06:18 TheRedMood Hmm 06:19 TheRedMood Sounds like we need a hack? 06:19 khonkhortisan yeah, I don't know where to get the data from. 06:19 TheRedMood well 06:19 TheRedMood this is c++ area 06:19 TheRedMood Hmm 06:20 TheRedMood Problem is, that since we can't get it pulled 06:20 TheRedMood We can' 06:20 TheRedMood we can't get it done 06:20 TheRedMood :/ 06:20 khonkhortisan There's always forking 06:20 TheRedMood Yeah, but if the majority doesn't follow then it is a waste 06:20 TheRedMood Splitting the community more than we do now is not a good option 06:21 TheRedMood What we need is a patch 06:21 TheRedMood A collection of diffrent pull requests 06:21 TheRedMood Fix em up 06:21 TheRedMood compile it and then post it on the forum 06:21 TheRedMood Then we could make some "augmented" servers, which are run by this version 06:22 TheRedMood And if people want to play on them they have to get the "augmented" version 06:22 RealBadAngel you have just called forking a different name 06:22 TheRedMood No 06:22 TheRedMood x3 06:22 TheRedMood god 06:22 TheRedMood Okey, if we fork 06:23 TheRedMood We make our own version. 06:23 TheRedMood okey? 06:23 TheRedMood Thats the goal of forking 06:23 RealBadAngel yea 06:23 TheRedMood THe goal of this plan is to get the community to move to a newer version of this game 06:23 NakedFury forking just sound like pigs fucking, such a horrible name 06:23 TheRedMood so that the developer sees that they want new features 06:23 RealBadAngel lol 06:23 TheRedMood It is not :( 06:23 TheRedMood I like githubs :D 06:24 NakedFury why not spooning? 06:24 RealBadAngel hehehe 06:24 NakedFury well I will try not to think about forking 06:25 TheRedMood because a fork got one base 06:25 khonkhortisan github has a "Spoon-Knife" repo for example forking 06:25 TheRedMood and multiple points at the end 06:25 TheRedMood X3 06:25 khonkhortisan branching and forking are similar things, they had to come up with another name for it 06:25 TheRedMood I love this channel 06:25 TheRedMood Yeah, github are doign soem shady stuff.... 06:25 NakedFury branchs or roots would have worked too 06:26 TheRedMood well, i think branches are much better than roots 06:26 TheRedMood I saw a new revision system a while ago 06:26 TheRedMood I wonder what that was.... 06:26 khonkhortisan roots are merging, the opposite of branches, which are forking. 06:26 TheRedMood :o 06:27 TheRedMood Well 06:27 khonkhortisan https://github.com/octocat/Spoon-Knife 06:27 khonkhortisan it's a very busy repo 06:28 TheRedMood Perforce 06:28 TheRedMood I haven't heard about it before 06:29 TheRedMood I soon need to go :( 06:29 khonkhortisan I'm on borrowed time (bedtime) 06:29 TheRedMood Yeah ;) 06:33 Calinou Yeah, but if the majority doesn't follow then it is a waste 06:33 Calinou did you mean: "if it can't be compiled on windows then it is a waste"? 06:34 khonkhortisan If the head fork dies, (hopefully only) one fork will rise up and accept pull requests from the others. 06:34 Calinou https://github.com/octocat/Spoon-Knife/issues lol'd 06:35 TheRedMood Calinou: no, i mean that if the mayority of players just stay with the old version its a waste 06:35 khonkhortisan What would it take to switch everyone other than the master version going cold? 06:36 NakedFury fixes and wanted features 06:36 Calinou problem is, minetest community is too small 06:36 NakedFury yes 06:36 NakedFury it needs to grow some more 06:36 TheRedMood We could use that to our advantage tho 06:36 Calinou I suggest just adding a patch to your mod which can easily be added to minetest, then recompile, maybe provide win/linux binaries 06:37 Calinou it's not really useful to make a whole fork 06:37 TheRedMood Yeah 06:37 TheRedMood Thats my idea 06:37 TheRedMood But here we are talking API stuff 06:37 Calinou win bins are pretty much needed, and it's a PITA to compile for windows :P 06:37 TheRedMood and for that we need to redo some of the core game code. 06:37 Calinou yes, but what if you want to add something to API? 06:37 TheRedMood Yeah, then we need to recompile and redistrubute it 06:38 TheRedMood If enough people advertise it 06:38 TheRedMood OR mods need the new vesrion 06:38 khonkhortisan flatland is building a tower, then running //cylinder 1 100 dirt 06:39 khonkhortisan mods needing the changes would be the motivating factor 06:39 Calinou GOOD mods :p 06:39 TheRedMood thenYes 06:39 TheRedMood Yes* 06:40 TheRedMood But why don't we just ask c55? 06:41 khonkhortisan how do I register a privilage? 06:41 TheRedMood There should be an API function for it 06:41 TheRedMood I'll go fetch it 06:41 Calinou TheRedMood: you can make a pull request, and see, but he's inactive development-wise these days 06:41 khonkhortisan ah. register_privilege 06:41 TheRedMood you found it? 06:42 khonkhortisan yeah 06:42 Calinou btw, for fuffs sake, for any help/privilege line, you should put text "Like this", not "like this" or "Like this." 06:42 Calinou I mean in the /help all and /help privs, the stuff that explains the commands/privileges 06:42 Calinou because that's how the default game does it 06:42 khonkhortisan oh, I made that mistake "Like this." 06:43 TheRedMood Okey 06:44 * Calinou slaps celeron55 for lack of standardization enforcements 06:47 * khonkhortisan fades in 06:47 * khonkhortisan peeks out 06:48 * Calinou fades out 06:48 * Calinou peeks in 06:49 khonkhortisan :) 06:49 NakedFury the fork issue. make one and pull in all the fixes posted by people for the official engine code. Don't disappear for months. as I said add new API hooks and stuff and new engine features. FORCE people to move with cool new NEEDED stuff 06:50 khonkhortisan mutiny! 06:51 khonkhortisan just kidding 06:57 khonkhortisan huh. I just tried to -> return "Use some arguments" 06:57 khonkhortisan But that string won't go anywhere 06:59 Calinou NakedFury: what m$ and apple do 06:59 Calinou 8D 06:59 NakedFury then that shows it works 06:59 Calinou m$ works because it's on all computers, apple because it's "so classy"... 06:59 * Calinou facepalms 07:00 Calinou your mod needs something unethical or that looks really cool (with round borders) 07:00 NakedFury make the engine stuff white use the word retina a lot and add features that should have been on it since start every 6 months 07:00 NakedFury yes exactly 07:01 VanessaE wait, as you describing Apple, MS, or Ubuntu? ;) 07:02 VanessaE are* 07:02 NakedFury Ubuntu isnt cashing in the big bucks every 6 months is it? 07:02 VanessaE not yet but they're trying to start doing so as of this latest release afaiu. 07:02 NakedFury well thats good for it 07:03 NakedFury will they hold off features? 07:03 VanessaE sort of - by going with unity instead of something intelligent like xfce ;) 07:03 VanessaE inb4 Xubuntu 07:04 Calinou xubuntu is xfce with crapware 07:04 Calinou debian > all 07:04 Calinou :> 07:04 Calinou ubuntu, and any derivatives, official or unofficial are slow 07:04 Calinou even lubuntu isn't that fast 07:05 VanessaE eh, crapware it may have, but at least it seems to run okay for me 07:06 Calinou debian is crapware-free, and it's not that hard to use, the latest testing lacks GUI stuff to install packages, but WHO THE FUFF does that anyway? :P 07:06 VanessaE now now, Calinou... stuff like Synaptic has its place 07:07 Kray does Debian package nvidia binary drivers and flash player nowadays 07:07 Calinou I fail to see any use for synaptic, personally 07:07 Calinou Kray: yes 07:07 Calinou add contrib and non-free repos 07:07 Calinou and there are cd images with non-free firmware available too 07:07 Kray the fuck, they took their heads out from their ass? 07:08 Calinou the default cd image doesn't have any non-free firmware :P 07:08 Calinou Kray: they did since a long time ago 07:09 khonkhortisan there isn't a command that says what mods are loaded? 07:09 NakedFury dont think so. add that to your fork 07:10 VanessaE yes, /mods 07:10 VanessaE :-) 07:10 khonkhortisan I'm trying to make a mod reloader 07:10 NakedFury ok scratch my last comment 07:10 khonkhortisan oh. 07:10 NakedFury how do they show up? 07:10 VanessaE as a list in the chat area 07:10 khonkhortisan space-separated 07:10 VanessaE *nod* 07:10 NakedFury in capital letters? 07:10 khonkhortisan and mesecons takes five lines 07:11 VanessaE haha 07:11 VanessaE capital letters? um, no? 07:11 khonkhortisan no, in the way it's named in your mod directory 07:11 khonkhortisan mod_name other_mod moddy happymod 07:11 khonkhortisan but alphabetically 07:12 khonkhortisan or alephbetically 07:13 VanessaE alephbetically...if you use Hebrew maybe ;) 07:13 khonkhortisan I know the first letter 07:13 VanessaE actually, you know the first two letters. 07:13 khonkhortisan that too 07:13 khonkhortisan two 07:13 khonkhortisan to 07:13 VanessaE heh 07:17 NakedFury would it be possible to add color and maybe titles to chat? 07:18 VanessaE good luck with that. I've never seen anything put forward to address that 07:18 NakedFury title: Vanessa(Mod): good morning server, etc 07:18 VanessaE not that there's much use - I'd be happy if F10 would stop fucking crashing. 07:18 NakedFury color add a green color for every mod chat line 07:18 ecube f10 doesn't work for me 07:19 ecube nvm 07:19 NakedFury im just thinking of minecraft stuff that can be brought over 07:19 VanessaE naw 07:19 VanessaE forget minecraft 07:20 VanessaE this is our game - let's keep it that way 07:20 NakedFury not when its superior 07:20 ecube Well, the color chat + titles thing is necessary 07:20 NakedFury and not when it has stuff that should be here 07:20 khonkhortisan bring irc stuff into it 07:20 VanessaE larger fonts in minetest would be nice though 07:20 khonkhortisan /away /part 07:20 ecube orby haxed an irc relay into wazu's server 07:20 NakedFury larger fonts, color, titles 07:20 NakedFury better chat screen overall 07:20 ecube Minetest is too bright for the text to be white 07:20 khonkhortisan more ingame settings 07:21 NakedFury ability to move its position 07:21 ecube it should have some kind of border 07:21 NakedFury that too ^^ 07:21 VanessaE larger fonts with black drop shadowing (or just double printed white on offset black) 07:21 NakedFury that too^ 07:21 Calinou color codes, +1... eg. ^xf0f would make purple text, ^y underline, ^z strike :p 07:21 NakedFury all three coments too 07:21 ecube purpley 07:22 Calinou color player names in chat based on privileges: if you're the "name" guy in minetest.conf, magenta, if you have "server" priv, red, "ban" priv, cyan, "basic_privs" priv, cyan-green, "interact", green 07:22 Calinou none: gray 07:22 khonkhortisan I like ^7color^0 codes 07:23 Calinou some minecraft mods do that, but today, it's more like [President] [Super-Awesome DONATOR$$$$$] SomeGuy: test 07:23 Calinou khonkhortisan: not enough colors 07:23 Calinou better use hexadecimal 07:23 NakedFury Calinou that is right 07:23 khonkhortisan oh look! Color! 07:24 NakedFury ohh and server messages should be more visible and posible 11:58 RealBadAngel hi everybody 12:54 MilanFIN hi 12:54 MilanFIN do the old minetest maps created at early 0.4 times work? 12:54 MilanFIN in 0.4.3 12:55 RealBadAngel should have 12:55 MilanFIN cause I had some problems when the first versions with sound came out 12:56 RealBadAngel what sound has to do with maps? 12:56 MilanFIN nothing 12:56 MilanFIN the releases that had sound had also something else changed 12:56 MilanFIN dunno if you know the bug where random dirt spawned on sky 12:57 RealBadAngel seen it 12:57 MilanFIN fixed? 12:57 RealBadAngel i believe so, havent seen this bug for a long time 12:58 MilanFIN ok 12:58 MilanFIN have had long brake from minetest 12:58 MilanFIN cause friends stopped, I shutted down my server 12:59 RealBadAngel if you want some servers to play thers Server Nexus 13:00 RealBadAngel minetest.org 13:03 RealBadAngel 12 servers for US 13:03 RealBadAngel 1 for Europe 13:04 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 13:05 OldCoder Hello 13:35 OldCoder RealBadAngel, here? 13:35 OldCoder RealBadAngel, did you remove rubber leaves from technic? 13:40 RealBadAngel i removed technic:rubber_tree 13:41 RealBadAngel and using PilzAdam's one 13:41 OldCoder RealBadAngel, problem is... 13:41 OldCoder I can go back to a backup of 30000 13:41 OldCoder from a week ago 13:41 RealBadAngel problem was he moved it from farming to farming plus 13:41 OldCoder But it uses the technic rubber leaves 13:41 OldCoder Is there a way to fix that? 13:41 OldCoder RealBadAngel, were there many buildings in 30000 ? 13:42 RealBadAngel i dont know, i wasnt building there much 13:42 OldCoder But it uses the technic rubber leaves 13:42 OldCoder Is there a way to fix that? 13:42 RealBadAngel its not a big problem 13:42 OldCoder How so? 13:42 RealBadAngel trees were rare 13:42 OldCoder Hmm 13:43 RealBadAngel so it may happen to see somwhere tree made out of unknown blocks 13:43 RealBadAngel and thats all 13:43 OldCoder All right 13:44 RealBadAngel i gtg, be back in two hours or so 13:44 OldCoder k 14:57 Jordach hello all 14:57 PilzAdam hi Jordach 14:57 Jordach hey Adam 15:01 OldCoder Jordach, hello 15:01 Jordach hello OldCoder 15:02 OldCoder Jordach, I'm trying to learn WorldEdit. I've restored 30000 to a week ago. Tried to replace unknown trees near 0,0,0 there but I have SW and NE directions mixed up. If I give you fly would you be willing to get me the proper coords for that region? 15:02 Jordach PilzAdam, http://mineshaftersquared.com/ OPEN SOURCE MINECRAFT PROXY 15:03 Jordach OldCoder, use //pos1 and //pos2 15:03 OldCoder Jordach, I know how to do that 15:03 OldCoder and have done it 15:03 Jordach then use //set air or //dig 15:03 OldCoder That is not the problem 15:03 OldCoder I know how to do all that 15:03 OldCoder That is not the problem 15:03 OldCoder See above 15:03 Jordach press F5 15:03 OldCoder The problem is... 15:04 Jordach debug info pops up 15:04 OldCoder Determining direction 15:04 OldCoder The problem is... 15:04 OldCoder Determining direction 15:04 OldCoder I obtained what appeared to be 15:04 Jordach then use a ? in directions 15:04 OldCoder SW and NE coords 15:04 OldCoder I obtained what appeared to be 15:04 OldCoder SW and NE coords 15:04 Jordach you are duplicating lines 15:04 OldCoder But when I did a load of an schema 15:04 OldCoder Things were rotated 15:04 OldCoder Jordach, if the answer is no just say no 15:04 Jordach OldCoder, look at the debug infp 15:04 Jordach o*# 15:04 OldCoder I know everything you are talking about 15:04 Jordach (F%) 15:05 Jordach lets say 123, 50, 987 15:05 Jordach are the co ords 15:05 OldCoder Jordach, I need somebody to give me the coords and then I will understand directions 15:05 OldCoder I did all that 15:05 Jordach the co oreds work like X, Y, Z 15:05 OldCoder The paste came out rotated regardless 15:05 OldCoder I know 15:05 OldCoder I did all that 15:05 OldCoder The paste came out rotated regardless 15:05 Jordach OldCoder, look for yaw = 0 15:05 Jordach in debug 15:05 OldCoder X, Y, Z was obvious 15:06 OldCoder Go on 15:06 OldCoder Regarding yaw 15:06 Jordach yaw indicates your camera direction 15:06 OldCoder And for proper orientation 15:06 OldCoder Should yaw be zero? 15:06 Jordach yes 15:06 OldCoder Very well. I will check that later. 15:06 OldCoder If it works or not, we shall see 15:06 Jordach i use yaw = 0 as north 15:06 OldCoder And this works for WE purposes? 15:07 OldCoder WorldEdit purposes I mean 15:07 Jordach should do 15:07 OldCoder We'll try it 15:27 Jordach hey Calinou 15:27 Calinou hi 15:27 Jordach MC Client: Y U THINK 1.4 IS OUT? 15:27 OldCoder Hello 15:28 * Jordach also got ModLoader and Optifine working 15:28 OldCoder Jordach, I've merged your apple tree and doc changes into my server and client sources 15:28 OldCoder Also khonk* button change and Vanessa filter changes 15:28 Jordach OldCoder, i dont know if the trees work correctly 15:29 OldCoder Jordach, you can test that then 15:29 Jordach can you run a client to check 15:29 OldCoder I wouldn't know how 15:29 Calinou ceiling RMS is watching you play minecraft, Jordach 15:29 Calinou *ceiling breaks* 15:29 Jordach compile it locally 15:29 OldCoder Jordach, I am doing so now 15:29 Jordach so it runs from its default folder 15:29 OldCoder A new Windows client will be posted today 15:29 OldCoder Unless problems arise 15:29 OldCoder You can check it then 15:30 TheRedMoodWin Hello guys! 15:30 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, hello 15:30 TheRedMoodWin And girls :D 15:30 TheRedMoodWin Managed to find a PC in stockholm 15:31 TheRedMoodWin The drive was really long :( 15:31 Calinou And girls :D 15:31 Calinou [citation needed] 15:31 TheRedMoodWin 8 houres in a car is not my favorite way to pass time 15:31 Calinou (well, V.anessaE :p, anti-highlight for great justice) 15:31 TheRedMoodWin Yeah 15:31 TheRedMoodWin I think, Mrs would represent the famle population 15:32 OldCoder Jordach, actually new Windows client may be ready in 30 minutes 15:32 TheRedMoodWin Ohh? We are pushing a new build? 15:33 Calinou how TheRedMoodWin must find after finding a PC: http://www.demotivateur.fr/watermark.php?src=images/demotivateur_img/imgresize/202143249050727c8e45cc1_5548566_460s.jpg 15:33 Calinou feel* 15:33 Calinou oh and also, TheRedMoodWin: http://i.imgur.com/Qgs1M.png 15:33 Calinou :p 15:34 Jordach TheRedMoodWin, does it come with MC pre-installed? 15:34 TheRedMoodWin Minecraft? 15:34 TheRedMoodWin Nonononon 15:40 OldCoder New Windows client built and being tested 15:40 TheRedMoodWin Nice 15:42 OldCoder VanessaE, if you see this later: As I am now maintaining clients, suggest a checkbox patch to enable or disable sound on the client side. 15:42 OldCoder Anybody else, feel free to suggest the same patch 15:43 OldCoder This should address the complaints about the Ambience mod 15:43 OldCoder Calinou, I have merged some pulls and started a server-client fork. People are welcome to submit patches in the format: diff -ruN 15:45 rubenwardy hi all 15:46 OldCoder rubenwardy, Hello 15:46 OldCoder rubenwardy, I have merged some pulls and started a server-client fork. People are welcome to submit patches in the format: diff -ruN 15:46 OldCoder Back soon 15:47 rubenwardy PilzAdam, and any other german people, can you check this: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/tutorial/germanDE_draft.html 15:48 PilzAdam rubenwardy, part one; part two; dritter teil 15:49 rubenwardy btw i used Google Translate 15:49 PilzAdam it is completly crap 15:49 rubenwardy yeah 15:50 rubenwardy oh well, screw that. Some one with German knowledge can translate 15:50 Jordach or ask PilzAdam 15:50 Jordach DUH! 15:50 rubenwardy screw as in scrap the draft, not the language 15:51 Jordach rubenwardy, we know what you mean 15:51 Jordach i hate iTunes 15:52 Jordach iTunes can't even get my Unicode metadata correct...... 15:55 rubenwardy apple... 15:56 Jordach rubenwardy, my Sixth Form is pilot testing iPad2 16gbs for three classes 15:56 Calinou I have merged some pulls and started a server-client fork. People are welcome to submit patches in the format: diff -ruN 15:56 Calinou run, diffs, run 15:56 rubenwardy iTunes is not known for being a cutting edge program 15:56 rubenwardy cool 15:56 Jordach £15 a month 15:56 Jordach + insurance 15:56 rubenwardy Nice, like a school near me, Mounts Bay iirc 15:56 Calinou Jordach: lol 15:57 Calinou no smartphone/tablet OS is good today, and it's damn hard to replace them too 15:57 Calinou ios sucks, android sucks (5.2% less) 15:57 Jordach this is over 2 years: and no jailbreaking. 15:57 Jordach Windows 98 15:58 Jordach ^ no spelling mistake 15:58 Jordach Windows 8 = SHIT 15:59 Calinou +1 15:59 rubenwardy +1 15:59 rubenwardy Windows 7 is the best, and even that has its faults 15:59 rubenwardy ie: it is slow 15:59 Jordach rubenwardy, Windows XP 15:59 Jordach try living that long 15:59 rubenwardy um, 16:00 rubenwardy I like 7 a bit more than XP. 16:00 rubenwardy Arial Drag 16:00 rubenwardy Windows Snap to other windows and sides 16:00 Jordach no. 16:00 Jordach AERO = EVIL. 16:01 Jordach eats so much GPU 16:03 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/1lgCC.jpg 16:03 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/vOEgE.png 16:05 rubenwardy not Aero, Aero Drag 16:06 rubenwardy (5:00:45 PM) rubenwardy: Windows Snap to other windows and sides 16:06 rubenwardy correction, Aero Snap 16:06 Jordach i've been reading _TOO MUCH_ XKCD 16:07 rubenwardy I <3 XKCD 16:08 rubenwardy Universal Label :D 16:08 Jordach Hyrogen, Time 16:08 Jordach s/Hyrogen/Hydrogen 16:08 rubenwardy +d 16:08 rubenwardy Click and Drag - amazing 16:09 Jordach http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/freemanic_paracusia.png 16:10 rubenwardy hmm... 16:12 Jordach i quite like having two routers in the house 16:12 swilde Hmm, have latest mobf mod installed on 0.4.3 and wonder how to 16:12 swilde breed, build barn, filled it with leaves and waited (a few minutes) 16:12 swilde but nothing happens... 16:12 Jordach since im directly attached to mine, (which is then attached to the homehub) if the homehub goes out: use my router as a wifi dongle 16:13 Jordach swilde, your computers speed is important 16:13 swilde Jordach: -v please, in which way? 16:14 Jordach MOBF can hang minetest if it does not have enough cpu and memory 16:15 Jordach even on Crysis 2 (full settings) compliant systems hang 16:15 swilde Jordach: Oh, missunderstanding, its not hanging, only the 16:15 swilde breeding seems not to work (no new animals, the filled barn stays unchanged) 16:15 Jordach swilde, dunno; might be some big ol' bug 16:15 Jordach (again: i dont use all of the mods) 16:22 Jordach rubenwardy, i made a VU meter for my keyboard that flashes the LEDS 16:24 rubenwardy nice! 16:33 Jordach rubenwardy, i could do some nice work with LED llghting, have a full spectrum analyzer 16:58 Jordach OMFG 16:59 Jordach google gameboy texture pack 17:10 Jordach cisoun, people want v10 17:10 Jordach (either that or they are too lazy to post about it) 17:11 cisoun w00t 17:11 cisoun 'k 'k 17:11 cisoun give me 5 min. 17:11 Jordach cisoun, i'll consider getting the _WHOLE THING_ pushed to celeron55/minetest/master 17:12 Jordach i procrastinate too much 17:12 cisoun you're not alone 17:12 cisoun :brofist: 17:12 * Jordach brofists cisoun 17:12 cisoun why the fuck my game folder is doing in my music folder ?? 17:12 cisoun I mean *what 17:15 CTMN OldCoder are you here? 17:16 Jordach he should be 17:16 CTMN I mean not afk 17:16 Jordach OldCoder, status of win32 build of the new stuff 17:16 CTMN Hes always online 17:30 cisoun Jordach: here you go : http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=48240#p48240 17:34 CTMN OldCoder, the problems that I told you are still there 17:38 CTMN If theres no data loss, then they are very huge lags that are bigger than when 30001 was on windows 17:38 PilzAdam there is no break_glass sound in the default game 17:38 PilzAdam can anybody create one? 17:39 Calinou ok 17:39 Calinou 17:39 Calinou done 17:39 Calinou :p 17:40 RealBadAngel Calinou, will you make something with stairsplus.register_stair_and_slab_and_panel_and_micro ? 17:41 RealBadAngel i really dont wont to fork it to use it 17:41 Calinou RealBadAngel: see github 17:41 RealBadAngel ok 17:42 Calinou https://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods 17:42 Calinou this took me 30 minutes to "merge" (from nekogloop's stuff) 17:42 Calinou the fix was also added to moreblocks 17:42 RealBadAngel you could copy mine, would took a few seconds ;) 17:42 RealBadAngel but yeah, nekos way is more elegant 17:43 RealBadAngel thanks 17:45 RealBadAngel i need to fix my API's the very same way 17:45 Calinou [offtopic] it's funny how many third party cookies are being blocked by chromium 17:46 Calinou s/ny/ny seeing 17:46 RealBadAngel ? why so? 17:46 Calinou because people try to track people :3 17:50 RealBadAngel Calinou, one question have you ever logged on europe.minetest.org:30000 ? 17:50 Calinou yes, I play on this server 17:51 RealBadAngel then tell me why stairs in my backyard are owned by you? 17:51 RealBadAngel nothing around but a few steps 17:55 RealBadAngel quick hi and leave :) 17:57 Calinou PilzAdam: I made one :) testing it 17:57 RealBadAngel Calinou, im talkin bout this stairs http://realbadangel.pl/stairs.png 17:57 Calinou RealBadAngel: removed and place them, because stairs now let shadows go through :p 17:58 Calinou they're no longer darker compared to other blocks 17:58 Calinou placed* 17:58 RealBadAngel heh i also tried to do so 17:58 RealBadAngel then noticed theyre owned :) 17:59 Calinou http://ompldr.org/vZnh3cg/default_break_glass.ogg 17:59 Calinou license: WTFPL 17:59 Calinou made with audacity 17:59 Calinou RealBadAngel: how did I remove stairs owned by you then? :o 17:59 Calinou PilzAdam: ^ 18:00 RealBadAngel node ownership was introduced here later than i made those stairs i believe 18:00 RealBadAngel i dont know much bout protection mods 18:01 PilzAdam Calinou, its not very realistic 18:01 Calinou PilzAdam: it's not supposed to be realistic -- are the default minetest sounds realistic? not really :) 18:02 PilzAdam it doesnt sound like glass 18:02 RealBadAngel http://www.audiomicro.com/glass-breaking-glass-break-glass-breaking-free-sound-effects-45075 18:02 NakedFury Calinou is it possible for you to include a way for each material used for stairs have its own sound? 18:02 Calinou NakedFury: I tried once, didn't work 18:02 Calinou RealBadAngel: free != free 18:02 NakedFury I tried adding stone steps and wood but would not work 18:02 RealBadAngel http://soundbible.com/1765-Glass-Break.html 18:03 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, that is too realistic 18:03 RealBadAngel http://soundbible.com/tags-broken-glass.html 18:03 RealBadAngel the second one 18:03 PilzAdam Calinou, move it: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=48244#p48244 18:03 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/issues/15 18:04 Calinou why did you remove wood tools, PilzAdam? O_o 18:04 Calinou and what's the purpose of that game? we have minimal.. 18:04 Calinou and there's already a game named minimal 18:04 khonkhortisan I should start a daemon and record when the power goes out 18:04 RealBadAngel got super one 18:04 RealBadAngel http://soundjax.com/glass+breaking-1.html 18:04 RealBadAngel 4th wave 18:05 khonkhortisan the fifth one doesn't belong with the others 18:05 RealBadAngel hehe, but the 4th is perfect imho 18:06 Calinou RealBadAngel: make sure you have the right to redistribute it, including derivative works 18:07 NakedFury working on a sound rework? 18:07 RealBadAngel https://www.google.pl/#hl=pl&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22GLASSBRK.WAV%22&oq=%22GLASSBRK.WAV%22&gs_l=hp.3..0i13i30l4.6728.8457.1.9039.2.2.0.0.0.0.122.227.0j2.2.0...0.0...1c.1.oeUf2HE5KaE&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=5017074d9bf708e3&bpcl=35466521&biw=1360&bih=637 18:07 RealBadAngel this file seems like to take over the internet ;) 18:07 PilzAdam Calinou, updated: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=48244#p48244 18:07 Calinou .wav sux 18:08 Calinou I'd advise not using a random sound from the internet - check the licenses :P 18:08 khonkhortisan bmp sux 18:08 RealBadAngel how to check the license for a file that is aviable on dozens of "free" sites? 18:09 khonkhortisan License: File is too spread out and available to have an enforcable license. 18:10 Calinou "free" as in speech isn't "free" as in beer 18:10 Calinou commonly-used sounds are bad regardless of license; the game feels too "generic" 18:10 RealBadAngel in this case it means i can open my closet and expect the file to be here 18:10 OldCoder Hello 18:10 khonkhortisan sauerbraten has that problem in using a common "get hurt" sound 18:11 RealBadAngel Calinou, breakin the glass is a generic stuff :) 18:12 NakedFury breaking glass and steps 18:12 NakedFury you cant get more common and generic than that 18:12 NakedFury and punching shit 18:13 RealBadAngel when you will try to be more "original" than generic the sound will become unrealistic 18:14 RealBadAngel anybody knows how glass breaks, so when hear something another it simply wont fit 18:14 PilzAdam minimal has under 200 KiB 18:14 khonkhortisan all you have to do is record something yourself and it will be both original and realistic. 18:14 Jordach hold on 18:15 Jordach i think blockplanet had a glass breaking sound 18:15 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, have you done somethin to farming plus and rubber tree? collecting from trees stopped workin 18:15 PilzAdam didnt know that 18:16 RealBadAngel noticed that today, treetap seems not to recognize the tree 18:16 NakedFury on my game I got new sand sounds, grass sounds, dirt sounds, stair sounds, mining sound, axe sounds and shovel sounds 18:16 Jordach https://github.com/MiJyn/BlockPlanet-old/tree/master/games/blockplanet/mods/default/sounds 18:16 PilzAdam there is no treetap in my farming_plus mod 18:16 RealBadAngel i havent changed anythin with treetap code, so askin you 18:17 MiJyn hi Jordach 18:17 MiJyn you awakened me 18:17 MiJyn *summoned 18:17 MiJyn :P 18:17 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, you have removed rubber tree from your mod? 18:17 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/tree_tap.lua 18:18 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, farming_plus: not farming: 18:18 RealBadAngel worked before 18:18 * Jordach heads on back into tekkit 18:18 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, ok fixin the naming then 18:20 RealBadAngel i will rename caouthouc to raw latex too, as VanessaE suggested 18:21 RealBadAngel and yes, i removed it, when found it back in farming_plus 18:23 khonkhortisan Is there a way to check if a file exists without opening it? 18:29 PilzAdam if io.open("filename", "r") then 18:29 RealBadAngel OldCoder, can you update EU server with technic? 18:31 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/minimal/commit/8a6312f472d128c4a1c7b27e7feff52c1cc82dcf 18:34 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlzH5Mo6NsY&feature=related 18:34 RealBadAngel my vote for next track in ambience mod 18:37 RealBadAngel woof woof 18:37 NekoGloop is there a VanessaE among us? 18:37 RealBadAngel i think no 18:37 NekoGloop k then 18:38 RealBadAngel lol 18:38 RealBadAngel fucked up date or what? :) 18:39 RealBadAngel this one is even better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYcphCzYEWw&feature=related 18:40 PilzAdam should i use the old textures for minimal? 18:41 RealBadAngel if you got better ones, use them 18:42 PilzAdam i mean the 0.3 textures 18:43 Jordach OldCoder, what is the status of the win32 build you stated of 18:44 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, no way 18:45 RealBadAngel and imho you shall better do the fertilizer than improving minimal :) 18:45 RealBadAngel my deployers are waitin for it :) 18:46 RealBadAngel so the farms could be fully automatic 18:53 Jordach sweet 18:54 khonkhortisan http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8103380450/in/photostream/lightbox/ 18:54 khonkhortisan That's probably a bad thing that the messages cover the chat input box 18:57 RealBadAngel OldCoder, youre here? 19:18 bulletrulz How Come I Cant install Minetest 3.1 and Minetest 4.2 19:18 Jordach because software centre 19:18 bulletrulz on the same machine? 19:19 Jordach you have to have it run in place 19:19 * Jordach thanks myself for using windows 19:19 bulletrulz no i have A.DEB PACKAGE! 19:19 Jordach bulletrulz, you cant 19:19 Jordach software centre only updates stuff 19:20 Jordach the only other way is self compiling 19:20 bulletrulz why not is it possible? 19:20 Jordach dunno 19:21 bulletrulz i got it to work by exstracting the exeucutbles 19:23 TheRedMoodWin Hello people 19:23 TheRedMoodWin Finally got something to eat :) 19:24 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE: Guess where I am now 19:24 Jordach Home? 19:25 TheRedMoodWin No :3 19:25 TheRedMoodWin We drove 8 hours today to get to sweden 19:25 OldCoder Hi 19:25 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Yes 19:25 Jordach OldCoder, win32 19:25 TheRedMoodWin We are attending a weeding, so long distance travel is required 19:26 OldCoder Jordach, RealBadAngel, I have built a Windows client 19:26 OldCoder And RUN_IN_PLACE=1 19:26 Jordach s/weeding/wedding 19:26 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder: You made a new version? Nice, what is the updates 19:26 OldCoder Wait 19:26 Jordach POST! 19:26 OldCoder I am trying to figure out a problem! 19:26 OldCoder I will explain 19:26 Jordach ?? 19:26 OldCoder I will explain 19:26 * OldCoder explains 19:26 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder: As I have said before, you need to calm down. I am not the enemy :) 19:26 Jordach TheRedMoodWin, i can relate to OldCoder in this sense 19:27 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, thanks but no jokes today. I am tired and busy. I built a Windows client before. It ran in place. The new one is no longer running in place despite the fact that RUN_IN_PLACE=1. 19:27 TheRedMoodWin That I am stressing? Because if I am I would like you to tell me so I can improve. 19:27 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, see above 19:27 OldCoder I am focused on the RUN_IN_PLACE problem 19:27 OldCoder Searching the build files to identify it 19:28 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder: That was no joke. You sound like you are stressed, which I think is bad :( 19:28 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, that is not related to Minetest 19:29 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder: No, but you do a lot of important work around minetest. Therfor keeping you in a state where you are able to performe is important 19:30 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder: and 2, I see you as a friend, so why would I not worry? It is normal to care for the people you like and respect :) 19:30 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, all right 19:30 TheRedMoodWin :) 19:30 Jordach OldCoder, it should be -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 19:31 Jordach NOT RUN_IN_PLACE=1 19:31 TheRedMoodWin :D 19:31 TheRedMoodWin Ve solved it :3 19:31 TheRedMoodWin He solved it :3 19:32 NakedFury just erased a bunch of unknown trees behind the spawn at minetest.org 30000 19:33 TheRedMoodWin Nice 19:34 TheRedMoodWin Seems like the community is doing a good job 19:34 NakedFury found 2 more individual unknown blocks 19:35 OldCoder Jordach, I am using -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 19:35 Jordach HUH 19:36 OldCoder Thank you 19:36 OldCoder Researching further 19:36 OldCoder It's probably a simple error 19:38 TheRedMoodWin yeah 19:38 TheRedMoodWin Got a link to anything? 19:38 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, no; I am debugging the problem ATM 19:38 OldCoder Thank you 19:38 NakedFury OldCoder i am at the server. apparently that old copy works great 19:38 OldCoder NakedFury, All right 19:38 TheRedMoodWin Well 19:39 TheRedMoodWin Are there any links to the place where you posted the new build? 19:40 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, it is not posted. I have built on my PC. Am trying to find out what I did wrong with RUN_IN_PLACE. I mentioned this because I promised to post. 19:41 OldCoder Thank you for interest 19:41 OldCoder Odd part is that it seems to be set 19:41 OldCoder Debugging can be fun and interesting 19:41 TheRedMoodWin Yeah! I know right 19:41 TheRedMoodWin And often the fault is so simple 19:41 TheRedMoodWin :) 19:44 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4regtGCsDM&feature=related 19:48 Jordach and often the problem is a closed paren 19:49 OldCoder Heh 19:49 Jordach or Mr. Curvy {} 19:49 Jordach Mrs. Comma, 19:49 PilzAdam here is the code to generate trees written in lua: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minimal/commit/23b0186f753f13581374b33fa846e8a6ad4b2d05 19:49 Jordach we can now make naturally spawning trees? 19:50 PilzAdam its just because i renamde the mod to minimal and the engine side growing of saplings didnt work for minimal:sapling 19:50 PilzAdam so i looked at the code in c++ and coded it in lua 19:52 Jordach cool 19:52 Jordach now make them grow normally 19:52 Jordach ;) 19:52 Jordach a full LUA mapgen# 19:53 NakedFury cant teleport too far 19:54 NakedFury keep getting area protected messages when I try to mine blocks 19:54 TheRedMoodWin Lol 19:54 TheRedMoodWin Nice one :D 19:54 TheRedMoodWin How i it going OldCoder ? 19:54 OldCoder O.K. ty 19:57 NakedFury is there an area protection in the coords of over 10k and -10k? 19:57 OldCoder NakedFury, which world? 19:57 NakedFury 30k 19:58 OldCoder NakedFury, Can you explain the question further? 19:58 NakedFury okay 19:58 NakedFury I used teleport to 3699, -12000,3699 19:59 NakedFury so obviously I would go under rock so I try to mine them or place torches but I get an area protected message 20:00 NakedFury msg: Server: -!- area protected 20:02 TheRedMoodWin okey 20:02 TheRedMoodWin I am going now 20:02 TheRedMoodWin See all of you later :) 20:05 PilzAdam Jordach, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minimal/commit/990edef667ffa8692ebb902a83cd864278cc760b 20:05 * Jordach chokes 20:07 OldCoder NakedFury PM 20:09 Jordach finally, Portal 2 finsihed downloading on Steam 20:10 bulletrulz who uses qupzilla 20:11 bulletrulz brb 20:17 OldCoder Finally! Problem fixed. New Windows client coming with new features. 20:17 Jordach yay 20:17 OldCoder TheRedMood, Jordach, NakedFury etc. A little longer to set up and test. 20:18 Jordach aw 20:18 NakedFury ok 20:18 toniepeli hi there 20:18 OldCoder Jordach, Not long 20:18 toniepeli aika päivittää uusi minetest 20:18 Jordach >:) 20:19 OldCoder Jordach, I think I'll preload the media for the Windows version. ZIP will be larger but initial connects should be faster. 20:19 Jordach tch tch tch 20:19 * Jordach tuts feverously 20:19 OldCoder I can provide both versions: preloaded and not 20:20 OldCoder Loading media now; this will take 10 minutes 20:20 Jordach not; i want things to finish fast 20:20 OldCoder But initial connect will be much faster. Anyway I can provide both versions. 20:22 toniepeli hmm 20:22 toniepeli where's the newest download 20:22 M13_ hello 20:22 toniepeli and why the fast walking is buggy as I tested in on other pc last week and it really was buggy 20:23 toniepeli or my client or pc was 20:23 M13_ im talking trough my xbox 360 20:23 M13_ lolz 20:23 Jordach toniepeli, depends on the speed of the pc 20:23 toniepeli cool.. hows that 20:23 Jordach M13_, ikr 20:23 Jordach IE with the 360, also M13_ pm me your gamertag 20:23 M13_ enternet explorer, it just came out 20:23 Jordach or add me (XxJordachxX) 20:23 M13_ ok jordach 20:23 Jordach (no brackets) 20:24 toniepeli 3.0Ghz cpu, ice turbo graphics card or something.. 20:24 M13_ im xxMonkey245x 20:24 Jordach toniepeli, then its the map loading then 20:24 toniepeli The fast walk was working properly before.. the problem is more like on / off problem 20:24 Jordach does it "rubber band" (like move so far and you move back) 20:25 OldCoder Is GitHub down? 20:25 Jordach also Valve failed: their own installer has Postal 2 instead of portal 2 20:25 toniepeli seems like the key is meant to be like "walking fast" "not walking fast".. 20:25 toniepeli okay I don't remember actually.. 20:25 toniepeli I have to download it and check again on this cpu 20:25 Jordach toniepeli, that key only makes you go fast when needed 20:25 Jordach its not a bug" 20:25 toniepeli that's not what I meant 20:26 PilzAdam M13_, you can also add me on Xlive; im PilzAdam 20:26 Jordach PilzAdam, no $#!7 20:26 toniepeli I meant that it should feel better if it worked when it's pressed down.. now it works instead.. 20:26 Jordach are you in free move as well 20:26 M13_ hahaha jordach go one :p 20:27 toniepeli fuck.. I 20:27 toniepeli 'm almost sure there was problem 20:27 M13_ sent jordach 20:28 M13_ friend request pending :p 20:28 toniepeli something like it disabled the fast move when pressed after enabled.. so there's actually one press for the button thaqt doesn't do anything 20:29 M13_ jordach is ir XxJordachX 20:30 toniepeli Anyway it's always my mistake (user).. 20:30 M13_ two x,s at the end 20:30 toniepeli is the coder of the game here? 20:30 PilzAdam what game? 20:31 toniepeli M I N E T E S T 20:31 PilzAdam its an engine not a game 20:31 OldCoder RealBadAngel, here? 20:31 toniepeli I know what's game when I see one.. The engine is irrlicht under that game 20:31 PilzAdam a game is: minetest_game, minimal, MiniTest, dwarves... 20:31 toniepeli aa okay.. 20:32 toniepeli a good one .. thanks for letting me know 20:32 toniepeli dwarves? 20:32 toniepeli Is there yet a mode that includes monsters ? 20:32 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3003 20:32 PilzAdam toniepeli, my simple mobs mod 20:34 PilzAdam wtf is going on with GitHub 20:34 PilzAdam ? 20:35 toniepeli okay good I'll download that. Looks like you have done some good process 20:35 M13_ um someone should be kind and buy me a pentium 4 processor (3.8 GHz) biggest one out ther :P 20:36 PilzAdam toniepeli, the spawing is realy crap 20:36 PilzAdam M13_, it is realy lightweight 20:36 toniepeli no.. just wait couple of years more and it will be more available 20:36 toniepeli *should 20:36 toniepeli hmm 20:37 PilzAdam bye 20:40 Jordach night all 20:40 toniepeli gd 20:40 toniepeli n 20:42 toniepeli It loads a lot.. 20:42 toniepeli of stuff 20:45 toniepeli should work single player? 20:45 toniepeli or not? 20:46 toniepeli failed to emerge player.. 20:46 toniepeli and typical slow loading with irrlichtstuff.. 20:49 NakedFury weird laser moment. instead of taking the line I shot it took all the block underneath it 21:04 bulletrulz hello 21:06 _2cool4me4_ Well, Minecraft is getting a mod API. 21:06 bulletrulz _2cool4me4_, minetest has more potitial 21:07 _2cool4me4_ Yes, being open source, it does... 21:07 bulletrulz minecraft is ok though 21:08 bulletrulz i mean its not like anyone can run it lol 21:08 _2cool4me4_ That's a point 21:08 iqualfragile1 well, i can 21:08 bulletrulz iqualfragile1, sup 21:09 iqualfragile1 oh, i love soup 21:09 bulletrulz lol iqualfragile1 what is up 21:09 iqualfragile1 not much 21:10 iqualfragile1 well, actualy: everything wich is not down 21:10 iqualfragile1 are you down? 21:10 bulletrulz ive been using the qupzilla browser its pretty good 21:10 bulletrulz iqualfragile1, yea 21:11 iqualfragile1 well, thats sad 21:11 bulletrulz no im up iqualfragile1 up real far 21:11 bulletrulz lol 21:12 iqualfragile1 hmm… dont jump then 21:12 iqualfragile1 that would be kind of deadly 21:12 iqualfragile1 and if you are in new york you would be commting a crime with dead-penalty 21:13 bulletrulz oh SHIT REALLY U SHOULD OFF TOLD ME THAT BEFORE 21:13 bulletrulz AHHHH 21:15 M13_ back, how do you make a floppy boot? 21:17 bulletrulz hi M13_ 21:23 iqualfragile1 you take an .img and dd it onto the floppy 21:24 bulletrulz wait hes trying to boot a os on a floppy arnt they only like 5 mbs memory wwhat os u trying to get? 21:29 OldCoder Jordach left? 21:29 OldCoder Would anybody else like to try a new Windows client with new features? 21:30 bulletrulz oldcoder i dont use windows but i would if i did 21:30 OldCoder k 21:31 LAD ill test 21:31 OldCoder k 21:31 OldCoder You have Windows? 21:31 LAD yes 21:31 OldCoder There are two links 21:31 LAD seems that im the only 1 21:31 LAD ok 21:31 LAD 2 21:31 _2cool4me4_ I would, but... Homework 21:31 NakedFury I will 21:31 OldCoder k 21:31 LAD 21:31 OldCoder Tell you what... I'm updating web pages 21:31 OldCoder 5 more minutes 21:35 LAD hmm coder 21:36 OldCoder Soon 21:36 LAD uhhh 21:36 LAD read on # 21:36 LAD OldCoder 21:36 OldCoder ? 21:36 LAD forgot the end peice 21:36 LAD i ment #OldCoder 21:36 OldCoder ? 21:36 OldCoder oh 21:37 LAD i forgot to put the name after the # 21:41 OldCoder Windows versions ready if anybody wishes to try 21:41 OldCoder The links and explanations 21:41 OldCoder Oops 21:41 NakedFury here 21:41 OldCoder forgot something 21:41 OldCoder one minute sorry 21:42 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html 21:42 LAD wow 21:42 OldCoder NakedFury, see section 2 part 3 21:42 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-121019.zip 21:42 OldCoder That is a 30MB ZIP file 21:42 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients/minetestnm-121019.zip 21:43 OldCoder That is a 10MB version 21:43 OldCoder If you have fast Internet get the first one 21:43 OldCoder Otherwise get the second 21:43 NakedFury The first link is a 30MB ZIP file and the second is a 10MB ZIP file. If you have a fast Internet connection, get the 30MB one; otherwise, get the 30MB one. 21:43 NakedFury little number mistake 21:44 OldCoder ? 21:44 OldCoder ha 21:44 OldCoder fixing ty 21:46 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hi. Do you have Windows? 21:47 iqualfragile no, windows is crap, but you can send me the code and i can compile it on linux 21:47 iqualfragile or i could try reactos… 21:47 bulletrulz iqualfragile, uses fedora i think 21:48 iqualfragile actualy i own an fedora! 21:49 OldCoder good 21:50 bulletrulz i mean iqualfragile uses fedora linuz 21:50 bulletrulz linux 21:51 iqualfragile i know 21:51 iqualfragile but i allso own an fedora 21:51 _2cool4me4_ ReactOS isn't too bad 21:52 bulletrulz reaxtOS IS A luttle bit too much like windoes 21:52 bulletrulz windows 21:52 _2cool4me4_ That's the plan 21:52 iqualfragile reactos is basicly a kernel+wine 21:52 bulletrulz i dont like it! 21:53 _2cool4me4_ Neither do I, but it sorta works 21:53 iqualfragile well, the guys actualy think windows is a great system but should be open-source 21:54 bulletrulz iqualfragile, even if windows was open source it would still suck 21:54 iqualfragile jup 21:54 iqualfragile there is no reason to switch to reactos, because you can use linux as kernel and wine 21:54 _2cool4me4_ there would be too many ports to count 21:54 bulletrulz its just not a very good os 21:54 bulletrulz iqualfragile, exactly 21:54 iqualfragile but there is one counter-argument: 21:55 bulletrulz dont get me wrong i use wine to play games but thats it! 21:55 bulletrulz iqualfragile, what? 21:55 iqualfragile most distributions distribute pulseaudio and wine and pulseaudio dont realy like each other 21:55 iqualfragile reactos on the other hand has a compatible audio-layer 21:56 bulletrulz well pulseaudio and wine work really good on mine? 21:56 bulletrulz hmm i use lubuntu 12.10? 21:56 iqualfragile and that pulseaudio-issue breaks many games 21:56 khonkhortisan pulseaudio can go through jackd 21:57 bulletrulz thats true but no one is going to install a os just for that 21:57 bulletrulz theyll most likely deal with the tsound problem 21:58 OldCoder It is reported that the new Windows clients work. 21:58 OldCoder NakedFury, have you tried either yet? 21:58 NakedFury its works for me 21:58 OldCoder Good 21:58 OldCoder NakedFury, which did you try? 10MB or 30MB ? 21:58 OldCoder 30MB should bypass the initial slow load 21:59 bulletrulz It is our view that Linux + Wine can never be a full replacement for Microsoft(R) Windows(R). ReactOS has the potential for a much higher degree of compatibility - especially for Microsoft(R) Windows(R) drivers - which WINE does not address. HA defently not true 21:59 NakedFury I was checking the config files because volume in the game is always so loud. yes I am using the fast build 21:59 bulletrulz iqualfragile, it says that on the website 21:59 OldCoder NakedFury, is music working? 21:59 NakedFury yes, I just turn it down a little 22:00 iqualfragile yup, but you have the linux drivers 22:01 iqualfragile and if the reactos-developers actualy create a opensource-os wich can use windows drivers its gona take about half a year until linux can, too 22:01 _2cool4me4_ But Microsoft will more than likely sue them out of existance first. 22:03 bulletrulz _2cool4me4_, they canrt 22:03 bulletrulz cant 22:03 bulletrulz they use there own stuff except wine 22:03 bulletrulz and wine uses its own stuff 22:06 bulletrulz so reactOS does not deserve credit 22:06 bulletrulz niether does windows! 22:07 bulletrulz wow its aready had bsod lol! 22:09 bulletrulz http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Reactos_bsod.png 22:10 bulletrulz brb guys 22:46 bulletrulz back 23:10 OldCoder I will return a little later 23:14 bulletrulz ok