Time Nick Message 00:00 OldCoder Another day pretty much 100% in MT 00:00 OldCoder But I will get work done 00:12 skully_ oldcoder 00:15 OldCoder Hello 00:21 OldCoder JangoFett154, PM if around thx 00:38 * VanessaE is back 00:38 VanessaE NakedFury: I'd hardly say c55 "hates" me, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't exactly like me :-) 00:39 VanessaE LAD: you rang? 00:52 VanessaE wb neko 00:52 VanessaE and hi to zilvarael, whoever you are ;) 00:57 zilvarael VanessaE: Sup! :D 01:10 bulletrulz2 hi 01:10 bulletrulz2 lol my server is moorcock.freenode.net xD 01:22 OldCoder 01:22 OldCoder TownTest NPC is crashing a world. I've removed the mod but the ghost continues to crash. I figure maybe create a dummy TownTest that does nothing. Suggestions? World is 30011. 01:22 OldCoder JangoFett154, ^ 01:23 OldCoder If anybody sees JangoFett154 or EnvoyXiphos send them to me 01:23 OldCoder Their world needs an edit 01:45 NakedFury ok back to game 01:45 NakedFury finished eating pizzas 01:46 NekoGloop XD 01:46 NakedFury im making a 100 x 110 or close. 3 high and 3 wide pyramid 01:50 OldCoder Large 01:50 NakedFury yes 01:50 NakedFury I want enough space in the middle of each step so I can walk in it and eventually add tubes or cables 01:51 NakedFury cant connect to my beloved server 01:58 OldCoder Intertubes 02:00 NakedFury would be interesting to try a desert city but the desert is small 02:00 NekoGloop Make one! 02:02 NakedFury saving on extra sand to expand it 02:03 NekoGloop Hum... 02:03 NekoGloop Akalin + sand = desert sand 02:03 NekoGloop Akalin + stone = desert stone 02:03 NekoGloop Good? 02:03 NakedFury very interesting 02:04 NakedFury I like it 02:04 NakedFury entirely crazy yet useful 02:04 NekoGloop Well akalin is the ore of the desert, is it not? 02:04 NakedFury I was thinking something like that. mixing certain elements to get others. like alchemy 02:05 NekoGloop For that, we could have something like the alloy furnace 02:05 NakedFury yes 02:05 NekoGloop (minus electricity and more slots maybe) 02:05 NekoGloop Speaking of that... 02:06 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Make a goddamn nonelectric alloy furnace 02:06 NakedFury there are so many ideas that I would like to do 02:06 NekoGloop NakedFury: Like? 02:06 NakedFury well for dyes: add a dye cauldron or tube where the colored liquid is. you just dip cotton in it, right click holding cotton. 02:07 NekoGloop :o 02:07 NakedFury would also make for a cool look workroom for dyes 02:08 NekoGloop Well, i'd like to know how i could make gloopblocks' wet cement be placeable. 02:08 NekoGloop (and work as it should) 02:10 NekoGloop Also, new evil stick recipe, yay or nay? 02:10 NakedFury go for it. what about stick with the new ores that are used for something else too 02:11 NakedFury we never see iron sticks for tools adding more durability to them 02:11 NekoGloop Hm... 02:11 NekoGloop NakedFury: I mean the recipe i just gave it. 02:11 NekoGloop Look on the forum. 02:14 khonkhortisan I would've stopped at "we never see iron sticks" 02:19 khonkhortisan the issue tracker on github doesn't give a preview button if you are editing a pre-existing post. 02:27 NakedFury ok It doesnt want me to connect 02:38 khonkhortisan my rubik's cube doesn't like worldedit :( 02:54 khonkhortisan my client crashed after joining minetest.org:30007 02:54 NakedFury cant join develan 30000 02:54 khonkhortisan /home/kyle/src/minetest/src/tile.cpp:488: virtual irr::u32 TextureSource::getTextureId(const string&): Assertion 'result.key == name' failed. 02:56 khonkhortisan me neither 02:56 NakedFury maybe oldcoder took them offline for maintenance? 02:56 khonkhortisan oldcoder is using minetest.org 02:56 NakedFury develan.com no longer?? 02:56 khonkhortisan nope 02:56 NakedFury I always connect using develan.com port 30000 02:57 khonkhortisan http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/index.html 02:57 NakedFury yeah noticed thanks 02:57 NakedFury when did he renamed? 02:58 khonkhortisan a few days ago? 02:58 NakedFury well just 1 hour ago I was fine with develan 02:58 OldCoder Hi 02:59 NakedFury hi 02:59 OldCoder develan.com is temporary 02:59 OldCoder minetest.org is the new domain 02:59 OldCoder 02:59 NakedFury okl thanks for clarifying that 02:59 OldCoder The worlds are up 02:59 OldCoder Checking 02:59 OldCoder 30001 is down 02:59 OldCoder for maintenance 02:59 OldCoder 30011 is down 02:59 OldCoder because they have a bad Towntest 02:59 OldCoder Removing the mod does not help 02:59 OldCoder Need to worldedit to stop the crashes 02:59 NakedFury well I have been stuck at connecting for a long time now 03:00 OldCoder I will check 03:00 OldCoder Which world are you on? 03:00 NakedFury Primary 03:00 OldCoder NakedFury, 30000? 03:00 NakedFury 30k port 03:00 OldCoder k 03:00 khonkhortisan 30007 works but not 30000 03:01 OldCoder I know what happened 03:01 OldCoder hold on 03:01 OldCoder NakedFury, khonkhortisan worlds are now cycling 03:01 OldCoder 03:01 OldCoder I took 30011 offline 03:01 OldCoder due to repeated crashing 03:01 OldCoder when I did 03:01 OldCoder I disabled auto-restart 03:02 OldCoder world 30000 crashed subsequently 03:02 OldCoder and could not restart 03:02 OldCoder 03:02 OldCoder I am learning 03:02 OldCoder how to do this efficiently 03:02 OldCoder worlds should run now 03:02 OldCoder except 30001 and 30011 03:02 OldCoder 03:02 OldCoder We regret 03:02 OldCoder any inconvenience 03:02 OldCoder :-) 03:02 OldCoder 03:02 OldCoder To be clear 03:02 NakedFury no problem 03:02 OldCoder The worlds will usually restart after crashing 03:02 OldCoder 03:02 OldCoder Now... 03:03 OldCoder Does anybody have a suggestion regarding exorcising Town Test from 30011 ? 03:03 OldCoder They crash as soon as it activates 03:03 OldCoder But removing the mod 03:03 OldCoder causes a fatal error as well 03:03 OldCoder I am considering making a dummy version of the mod 03:03 OldCoder which will define the NPC but not cause crashes 03:03 OldCoder 03:03 NakedFury if no safe way to do that then start considering a clean start 03:03 OldCoder Comments? 03:03 OldCoder 03:04 OldCoder Never 03:04 OldCoder Destroy all the buildings? 03:04 OldCoder It is quite a world 03:04 OldCoder You should take a look at it 03:04 OldCoder 03:04 khonkhortisan OldCoder, have anything to say on //load? https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/issues/17 03:04 OldCoder Perhaps go back a day or two in backups 03:04 OldCoder Reading 03:04 khonkhortisan And did you ask about //metasave? 03:04 NakedFury well I guess MineTest needs a sure safe way to remove all mod traces from a world. we dont have that yet, that I know off 03:04 khonkhortisan Or can I report it myself? 03:05 OldCoder khonkhortisan, I was waiting to see Uberi. You would be much more knowledgeable than I 03:05 OldCoder Please report it 03:05 OldCoder I am a novice at this 03:06 khonkhortisan Now I know what you mean by "Open World" 03:06 OldCoder 03:06 OldCoder 01:13:51: ERROR[ServerThread]: LuaEntity name 03:06 OldCoder "towntest_npc:builder" not defined 03:07 OldCoder There should be a way to make a dummy mod 03:07 OldCoder to fix that 03:07 OldCoder 03:08 OldCoder For those shell coders here who are curious: 03:08 OldCoder 03:08 OldCoder while true 03:08 OldCoder do 03:08 OldCoder $SERVEREXE \ 03:08 OldCoder --port 30003 \ 03:08 OldCoder --gameid calinou_game \ 03:08 OldCoder --config $CONFXDIR/calinou.conf \ 03:08 OldCoder --world $WORLDDIR/calinou \ 03:08 OldCoder >> $LOGDIR/30003.log 2>&1 03:08 OldCoder if [ -f $EXITFILE ]; then exit 0; fi 03:08 OldCoder sleep 3 03:08 OldCoder done 03:08 OldCoder 03:08 OldCoder There is the code that restarts one world after a crash 03:08 OldCoder 03:08 khonkhortisan You could make it do all the worlds 03:09 OldCoder It does 03:09 OldCoder That is one small piece 03:09 OldCoder I used a kludge to prevent 30011 from restarting. Too broad. That's why the rest of you couldn't get back in. 03:10 OldCoder BTW Try the Calinou World. Not bad. 03:10 khonkhortisan Is there any kind of road salt? 03:10 OldCoder Shall I grep for road and salt? 03:10 khonkhortisan I have snow on my road 03:10 OldCoder Ah 03:11 khonkhortisan waa what kind of node ownership do you have on '07? 03:11 OldCoder Node Ownership 03:11 OldCoder I asked for consensus 03:11 khonkhortisan is it for single nodes? 03:12 OldCoder Everybody loved the idea except for NekoGloop 03:12 OldCoder Check the mod 03:12 khonkhortisan oh, I found the owner. 03:15 VanessaE one thing that would solve neko's concern is that if servers that use node_ownership would occasionally purge their listings of users who have abandoned their properties 03:17 OldCoder bulletrulz, Hi 03:17 OldCoder bulletrulz, we did not finish 03:17 OldCoder You are the armor mod maintainer? 03:17 OldCoder VanessaE, any thoughts on repairing the TownTest issue discussed above? 03:19 VanessaE I have no opinion on that one except I know the workers mod is a little buggy. 03:19 bulletrulz OldCoder, no i need someone to host it dl it for me and host it so i can dl it 03:19 VanessaE is it possible to build the houses without using workers? 03:19 khonkhortisan Walfoye likes killing 03:19 OldCoder VanessaE, sure 03:19 OldCoder khonkhortisan, trap? 03:19 VanessaE ok, then do that much 03:19 OldCoder bulletrulz, I am confused 03:19 khonkhortisan yep 03:19 OldCoder bulletrulz, you just need a copy? Hold on 03:19 VanessaE afaic, the only difference then is time it takes to build a house. 03:20 OldCoder bulletrulz, you are simply asking for a copy of the armor mod? 03:20 bulletrulz yes OldCoder 03:20 OldCoder VanessaE, the point of these mods is fun 03:20 khonkhortisan So to own a node all you have to do is place it? 03:20 VanessaE (and the fact that you have to acquire the materials to give to the Worker) 03:20 OldCoder bulletrulz, one moment 03:20 bulletrulz ty 03:20 OldCoder khonkhortisan, apparently 03:20 OldCoder bulletrulz, the mod will break PVP 03:20 OldCoder just noting 03:21 bulletrulz OldCoder, its ok i dont host a server 03:21 OldCoder ? 03:21 OldCoder I do not understand 03:21 OldCoder Wait a moment 03:21 bulletrulz so i wont need pvp 03:22 OldCoder http://minetest.org/armor.zip 03:22 OldCoder There you go 03:22 bulletrulz ty 03:22 OldCoder yw 03:22 NakedFury you have a weird connection 03:41 OldCoder Hmm? 03:41 OldCoder Oh 04:17 OldCoder 04:17 OldCoder I am testing my first mod fix for a crash 04:17 OldCoder Would anybody like to visit 30011 and see if it dies? 04:17 OldCoder BTW 30007 just went down 04:18 NakedFury ok give me a second 04:18 OldCoder Looks like technic did it 04:18 NakedFury finish this last bag 04:18 NakedFury visiting 04:19 NakedFury connected 04:20 NakedFury ok online and readng stuff 04:22 OldCoder NakedFury, thanks. Looks like it's still crashing. I'll need to find a way to disable TownTest without removing the mod. 04:22 NakedFury I didnt crash 04:22 OldCoder I did 04:22 OldCoder right before you arrived 04:22 OldCoder Thanks 04:22 OldCoder TownTest 04:23 OldCoder is accumulated nil pointers 04:23 OldCoder and dereferencing them 04:23 OldCoder That doesn't work too well :-) 04:23 khonkhortisan How would I read the formspec of an existing node? 04:24 NakedFury ok explored a bit then commited suicide 04:24 OldCoder Ouch 04:24 NakedFury they have a weird wood pillar with a house on top 04:24 OldCoder Yep 04:24 OldCoder Lots of interesting stuff 04:26 OldCoder anunakki, wb 04:26 anunakki ty 04:26 khonkhortisan Is there a command to clear the chat? 04:26 anunakki i just did /clear which isnt a command 04:27 anunakki and it cleared all the long shit 04:27 anunakki lol 04:32 NakedFury woooop! large bag! 04:34 khonkhortisan I like picture-based bug reports. 04:35 khonkhortisan https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/issues/18 it's just so easy to explain 04:53 khonkhortisan this channel varies greatly between noise and quiet. 04:53 OldCoder most do 04:54 * VanessaE tunes a radio to a dead spot and cranks up the volume 04:55 khonkhortisan the deaf guy next door goes crazy 04:59 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE 04:59 VanessaE hi 04:59 TheRedMoodWin Hello, miss 04:59 TheRedMoodWin I have a problem, which I need a female to answer 05:00 TheRedMoodWin Do you got a secound? 05:00 VanessaE sure 05:02 OldCoder I think I have fixed crashes in Town Test 05:02 TheRedMoodWin NIce going OldCoder 05:04 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down 05:05 TheRedMoodWin Hmm, on the forum someone requested aliases for commands 05:05 TheRedMoodWin Problem now is that I would have to reregister all the commands, which would lead to /help getting flooded 05:05 NakedFury dammit i sure wish important administrative or server announcement were bigger 05:06 NakedFury but the chat is too hidden up there 05:09 OldCoder U.S. worlds back up 05:14 VanessaE it's possible to configure how tall the chat area at the top is, I thought? 05:17 NakedFury doesnt change that it is absolutely crap and should have never been like that in the game 05:17 VanessaE agreed. 05:17 VanessaE everything that goes through that chat area should have been logged in the F10 console - including / and T commands. 05:18 NakedFury if you have the coding skills and I think chats are easy then take the time to do them the proper way dammit 05:18 VanessaE and the F10 console SHOULDN'T FUCKING CRASH. :-) 05:18 VanessaE I'd fix it but my C++ skills are presently limited to copy&paste coding :D 05:19 khonkhortisan I do call heirarchy a lot 05:19 NakedFury and for gods sake if you include Settings area in the game include them there dont leave that area useless and place settings outside game 05:20 NakedFury so many weird ways and wrong ways have gone here on MT 05:20 VanessaE NakedFury: you mean, like THIS? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3410 05:20 khonkhortisan must leave server to change fly button 05:21 NakedFury yes I have that new graphic options build 05:21 NakedFury exactly that. add all config options to the settings 05:21 VanessaE NakedFury: that was exactly a reaction to that mostly-empty settings tab. 05:21 NakedFury and sound please. 05:21 khonkhortisan and add settings inside the on-server menu 05:22 NakedFury that too 05:22 khonkhortisan it has sound 05:22 NakedFury inside game too 05:22 khonkhortisan it has sound inside game too 05:22 NakedFury I mean add sounds to the settings area too 05:22 khonkhortisan ? 05:22 NakedFury click Settings and you dont find anything about sound in it 05:24 NakedFury minetest needs a face operation. a beatification patch 05:24 VanessaE I will probably add that texture atlas switch to the settings menu, maybe also disabling sound if that's possible 05:25 VanessaE but I won't touch server-side stuff. My tweaks are purely client-side 05:25 NakedFury cant sound be added with a write in box to write from 0.0 to what ever the max is 05:27 VanessaE can it? sure. Can I do it? not yet :-) 05:27 NakedFury why is it that those with no way to help want to help the most? 05:28 VanessaE dunno :-) 05:29 VanessaE to be fair, the last time I touched C++ before those video settings patches was well over 10 years ago 05:29 khonkhortisan I copied the color of the signature line and made my own signature line 05:29 NakedFury sucks not even being able to make small tweaks of edits 05:29 VanessaE (and then it was only to write a few dozen lines of code to help my sister with a school project) 05:30 NakedFury computer stuff should be added to curriculum in high schools 05:30 VanessaE nice idea but there's a problem with it: 05:30 OldCoder Why wasn't this done decades ago? 05:30 khonkhortisan computer stuff is in high schools 05:30 OldCoder mrtux says they don't have any program at all in his district 05:30 VanessaE by the time a student can put his or her newly-learned computing skills to work, said skills are outdated,. 05:30 NakedFury computers are not going anywhere and more jobs are needing them 05:30 OldCoder Rubbish 05:30 OldCoder Languages 05:30 OldCoder They can teach proper structure 05:30 OldCoder Principles of design 05:30 khonkhortisan this is how you move a file. This is how you make a folder. This is how to use a web browser. This is html. 05:31 VanessaE well that much is true 05:31 OldCoder Bleh 05:31 khonkhortisan There wasn't much to learn 05:31 VanessaE but for example: 05:31 OldCoder code 05:31 NakedFury well basic pc but then start with code 05:31 VanessaE I learned K&R C back in the early 1990's. 05:31 OldCoder 1970s 05:31 VanessaE by the time I was able to actually DO anything with it, the rest of the world had migrated to ANSI C. 05:31 OldCoder Rubbish 05:31 OldCoder It became part of your development 05:31 OldCoder Coding 05:31 VanessaE so some of my skill set was useless and had to be re-learned. 05:31 OldCoder Really? 05:32 OldCoder Nah 05:32 NakedFury thats life 05:32 VanessaE today, I could probably hold my own coding in simple C. 05:32 VanessaE (since I have some Verilog and plenty of BASH to fall back on) 05:32 VanessaE but C++ ? fuck no 05:32 NakedFury people still learn latin and if we are talking about useless languages then that is number 1 05:33 VanessaE total mind-fuck when I look at C++, hence my comment that my skills there are limited to copy-paste-tweak-test :-) 05:33 VanessaE latin is useful in the medical field though. 05:33 NakedFury there and nowhere else 05:33 VanessaE and of course if you ever move to The Vatican or surrounding lands :-) 05:33 NakedFury and just because they keep naming things in it 05:36 NakedFury well for now I will just keep reading my books and rereading them to learn it 05:39 OldCoder C++ is not worth worrying about 05:39 VanessaE except that MT is coded in C++ :-) 05:40 NakedFury yeah 05:41 NakedFury I do wish it was easier to compile and test stuff 05:41 NakedFury java style easy 05:41 VanessaE compiling and testing is easy. cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1; make -j12; bin/minetest 05:41 VanessaE the problem is getting the code right to begin with :-) 05:48 VanessaE bbl 05:51 TheRedMood Well 05:52 TheRedMood Look at the linux kernel 05:52 TheRedMood Thats easier to compile than this :) 05:52 khonkhortisan with good reason? 05:52 TheRedMood Not really. 05:53 TheRedMood I would say the linux kernel is a more complex piece of programming that this. 05:53 TheRedMood But again there is not so many projects that would beat the linux kernel in that repsect :) 05:54 Kray define easier to compile 05:54 TheRedMood make all 05:54 TheRedMood and then it is 05:54 TheRedMood make install_modules ? 05:54 TheRedMood I think.... 05:54 Kray you have to configure it first 05:54 TheRedMood yes 05:54 TheRedMood But that is easy 05:54 TheRedMood Not easy, simple 05:54 TheRedMood X3 05:54 TheRedMood make menuconfig i think? 05:55 TheRedMood God I need to reinstall gentoo some of these days 05:55 khonkhortisan I think you should install it other days. 05:55 Kray ...and running cmake . is easier than choosing everything you need using menuconfig 05:55 TheRedMood ;o 05:56 OldCoder God I need to reinstall gentoo some of these days 05:56 TheRedMood Well Kray after doing it once you can just save the file and redo it with that 05:56 khonkhortisan cmake-gui, you don't have to search for settings 05:56 OldCoder As I may have offered let me introduce you to him 05:56 OldCoder BTW 05:56 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 05:56 TheRedMood ? 05:56 OldCoder Server list updated 05:56 TheRedMood What is it now? 05:56 OldCoder What? 05:56 TheRedMood Ohh, nice :D 05:56 TheRedMood VanessaE: What do you use, mrs? 05:56 TheRedMood s/mrs/ 05:57 TheRedMood That habbit is going to be hard to trun :( 06:00 anunakki hmm 06:12 OldCoder anunakki, For news from the past few days see: http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html#SECTION04 06:14 NakedFury updating my cygwin and stuff so I can compile with netbeans. its time to do some tutorials 06:28 jin_xi hey VanessaE , nice work on your first patch. and in c++! 06:35 NakedFury the problem I have with compilingc++ is dealing with all the extra crap like settings on cygwin or cmake or whatever other crap you need 08:38 TheRedMood VanessaE: What? You patched something ? Nice ! 09:20 OldCoder Calinou, wb 09:20 TheRedMood See ya all later 09:22 OldCoder night 10:37 JangoFett154 OldCoder you here? 10:37 TheRedMoodWin Back 10:37 TheRedMoodWin :D 10:38 OldCoder Yes 10:38 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, hi 10:38 JangoFett154 did you figure worldedit out? 10:38 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, you know, you're starting to grow on me. The :D come across as sincere. 10:38 OldCoder JangoFett154, PM 10:38 TheRedMoodWin Was does sincere mean? :o 10:39 TheRedMoodWin And thanks for that. And also I always mean what I type when it comes to emotocons 10:39 TheRedMoodWin If I type :D 10:39 TheRedMoodWin Then I usally have a big smile on my face. 10:44 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder what does sincere mean? 10:45 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, It means that somebody communications honestly 10:45 OldCoder *communicates 10:45 skully_ oldcoder 10:45 OldCoder skully_, hello 10:45 TheRedMoodWin Ohh 10:45 TheRedMoodWin Then that is correct :D 10:45 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder what langauge did you first learn 10:45 TheRedMoodWin ? 10:45 skully_ i got to go soon anyway so i cant stay on long oldcoder 10:47 OldCoder skully_, O.K. 10:47 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, if you mean programming it was probably BASIC 10:48 TheRedMoodWin Okey 10:48 TheRedMoodWin I really want to learn some C or C++ 10:48 OldCoder Good 10:48 TheRedMoodWin But I never get deep enough into the language 10:48 OldCoder I am AFK until later today 10:48 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I'll try to help you 10:48 OldCoder Not tonight though 10:48 OldCoder Leaving until later this morning 10:48 OldCoder ttys 10:48 TheRedMoodWin IO and network is something I have never been able to touch 10:49 TheRedMoodWin yet 10:49 OldCoder k 10:49 TheRedMoodWin Okey 10:49 OldCoder night 10:49 TheRedMoodWin See you later man :D 10:49 TheRedMoodWin have fun! 11:25 TheRedMoodWin okey 11:25 TheRedMoodWin Someone requested /sethealth 11:25 TheRedMoodWin We are doing that 11:25 TheRedMoodWin and /heal 11:34 TheRedMoodWin Wow 11:34 TheRedMoodWin This channel is really silent 11:37 Basstard` It needs more cowbell. 11:38 TheRedMoodWin Agreed 11:44 JangoFett154 what should i build on envy's server 11:44 TheRedMoodWin I don't really know :o 11:45 JangoFett154 hey CTMN 11:45 CTMN Hi 11:45 Basstard` Build a cowbell. 11:45 CTMN is 30001 online? 11:46 JangoFett154 yes 11:46 CTMN At last 11:47 TheRedMoodWin Hello :D 11:47 CTMN Hi 11:47 CTMN He it takes much time to load again 11:48 CTMN 0% 11:53 CTMN Still 0%! 11:53 TheRedMoodWin CTMN have you modded anything? 11:53 CTMN Its multiplayer 11:54 TheRedMoodWin No 11:54 TheRedMoodWin I am asking if you have coded anything? 11:54 TheRedMoodWin Like for minetest 11:54 TheRedMoodWin :D 11:54 CTMN No I havent coded any mods yet 11:54 CTMN Ah at last 2% 11:54 Basstard` Minetest needs a cowbell. 11:55 CTMN What for? 11:55 TheRedMoodWin What is the 11:55 TheRedMoodWin Default amount of hearts? 11:55 TheRedMoodWin And why do my game looks like it is going in slow move?? 11:55 CTMN Bad FPS? 11:55 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE, what is the default amount of hearts? 11:55 TheRedMoodWin I have 80 11:55 TheRedMoodWin Fps 11:55 CTMN And DEFAULT amount of hearts depends on the player 11:55 TheRedMoodWin That could cause 11:56 CTMN 80 FPS??? 11:56 TheRedMoodWin yeah 11:56 TheRedMoodWin :) 11:56 CTMN Are you tricking me? 11:56 TheRedMoodWin What do you mean could depend oin the player 11:56 TheRedMoodWin Want me to take a screen shot of it? 11:56 CTMN No 11:57 CTMN How many hearts u usually have depends if u eat apples to restore ur health 11:57 TheRedMoodWin http://prntscr.com/hjx44 11:57 TheRedMoodWin I mean when you are respawned 11:58 CTMN Ok I believe u 11:58 CTMN The thing is that every game has usually a framerate regulating code 11:58 TheRedMoodWin Yeah i know 11:58 TheRedMoodWin fps cap 11:58 TheRedMoodWin We used to do it back in cs source days 11:59 CTMN MT doesnt seem to have it 11:59 TheRedMoodWin until the found out and banned it in tournaments 11:59 TheRedMoodWin X3 11:59 TheRedMoodWin okey 12:01 CTMN At last it starts loading faster 12:02 CTMN why does ur screenshot only have a black screen int the MT window? 12:02 TheRedMoodWin okey /sethealth and /heal is done 12:03 TheRedMoodWin Because I am using something called lightshot 12:03 TheRedMoodWin To take the screenshots 12:03 TheRedMoodWin :) 12:03 CTMN k 12:03 TheRedMoodWin Wait 12:03 TheRedMoodWin Can't you see it? 12:03 TheRedMoodWin There are things on the screenshot 12:03 CTMN I can 12:03 CTMN I see the windows 12:04 CTMN Why r there dry shrubs spawning on grass? 12:04 CTMN its weird 12:04 TheRedMoodWin I don't know 12:04 TheRedMoodWin The game is in alpha 12:05 CTMN Its something with the server 12:06 CTMN Oh I actually see that the dry shrubs look like tomatoes 12:06 CTMN o.O 12:06 CTMN o.0 12:08 Basstard` Topatoes? 12:09 CTMN Cant u read?+ 12:10 TheRedMoodWin Would you guys fancy a /execution command? 12:10 CTMN for what? 12:10 CTMN For executing a file? 12:10 TheRedMoodWin ops killing players on the server 12:11 TheRedMoodWin And it would announce it to the server 12:11 CTMN theres already /kill 12:11 TheRedMoodWin no= 12:11 TheRedMoodWin is it really? 12:11 CTMN U wanted to do it 12:11 TheRedMoodWin yeah 12:11 TheRedMoodWin That is for suecide 12:11 TheRedMoodWin For the player 12:11 CTMN oK 12:11 TheRedMoodWin This will be for killing a player 12:12 CTMN Yes, but another command name 12:12 Basstard` Why wouldn't /kill player work? 12:12 CTMN Because it only works for suiciding 12:12 TheRedMoodWin Because I would have to add diffrent permissions for that 12:13 TheRedMoodWin Well I could just do that i think 12:13 TheRedMoodWin There is an API hook for it... 12:13 TheRedMoodWin Yeah 12:13 TheRedMoodWin I could do that :D 12:14 TheRedMoodWin Thanks Basstard` :) 12:14 Basstard` Heh, didn't know I was being helpful. But you're welcome! 12:15 TheRedMoodWin yeah 12:15 TheRedMoodWin Any feedback I get is good 12:15 TheRedMoodWin I am making a plugin named redsand 12:15 TheRedMoodWin It is going to be a server utility toolset 12:15 TheRedMoodWin With things like /listplayers /msg /mail /heal 12:15 TheRedMoodWin And so on 12:16 TheRedMoodWin So I need to know what people need 12:16 CTMN A command to leave a PM would be nice 12:16 TheRedMoodWin Top on the list now are modifying the kill command like you suggested and making a /hurt command 12:16 TheRedMoodWin Yeah That is beaing made trough /mail 12:16 CTMN No im writing 12:17 TheRedMoodWin Ohh 12:17 CTMN After entering the msg, the server would wait till the player joins and only then writing it 12:17 TheRedMoodWin Basstard`: Another point in my mod is to keep it very configurable 12:17 TheRedMoodWin The conf file is really heavly developed 12:17 TheRedMoodWin CTMN That is the point of the mail command o.o 12:18 CTMN Oh sry 12:18 CTMN But u didnt write what mail was for 12:18 CTMN Now u wrote it 12:18 TheRedMoodWin Yeah 12:18 TheRedMoodWin I know :) 12:19 CTMN God what did OldCoder do with the map? 12:19 TheRedMoodWin Don't know 12:19 OldCoder CTMN, ?? 12:19 OldCoder What? 12:20 OldCoder God what did OldCoder do with the map? 12:20 CTMN OldCoder why did u copy the Mr Tux thing in the air 12:20 OldCoder What are you referring to? 12:20 OldCoder One statue? Is that the problem? 12:20 CTMN Yes 12:20 OldCoder Additionally, it isn't in the air 12:20 TheRedMoodWin X3 12:20 CTMN Almost 12:20 TheRedMoodWin Can i kick his face now? 12:20 TheRedMoodWin :D 12:20 CTMN Half 12:21 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, No 12:21 TheRedMoodWin :( 12:21 OldCoder I have IRL issues to deal with. And I haven't slept yet. Good morning. 12:21 TheRedMoodWin Btw OldCoder, new commands are being made, and I am making the /kill command agmented. 12:21 OldCoder Live with the statue 12:21 CTMN Good morning 12:21 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, hey 12:21 TheRedMoodWin Good day Oldcoder :D 12:21 * OldCoder will return later today 12:21 TheRedMoodWin Good bye OldCoder :D 12:21 CTMN TheRedMood pls stop making such joked 12:22 CTMN *jokes 12:22 TheRedMoodWin i diden't know he was going :o 12:22 TheRedMoodWin And i think you are sad person CTMN :o 12:22 CTMN Sad? 12:22 CTMN no 12:22 TheRedMoodWin You need to drink more milk and be more happy :D 12:22 CTMN Im happy that the server is online at all 12:23 CTMN And the good thing about the letters is that I now can find out if the builder of a special building is still playing 12:23 CTMN Because his building was hurt 12:23 CTMN *damaged 12:24 TheRedMoodWin How can you find that out? 12:24 CTMN He will repair it if hes still playing 12:24 TheRedMoodWin ohh 12:24 TheRedMoodWin Okey :) 12:24 CTMN Logic 12:25 CTMN The first thing that a good coder has to use 12:25 TheRedMoodWin Yepp 12:25 TheRedMoodWin Want to test me? 12:25 CTMN Or a good PC :P 12:25 CTMN How? 12:25 TheRedMoodWin Good PC is not a requirment 12:26 TheRedMoodWin some of the brightest minds in the PC world uses "low" end pces 12:26 TheRedMoodWin Low specs lead to cleaner code 12:26 CTMN Logic is a requirement for a good PC 12:26 CTMN I meant that 12:26 CTMN And ur right 12:27 CTMN Do u know who made the new water textures? 12:28 TheRedMoodWin I found the game a few days Ago 12:28 TheRedMoodWin I have no idea 12:38 NekoGloop Meow. 12:38 TheRedMoodWin NEKO :D 12:38 NekoGloop No. 12:38 TheRedMoodWin :D 12:38 NekoGloop Go away. 12:38 TheRedMoodWin Ohh? 12:38 TheRedMoodWin Why :( 12:39 NekoGloop Because you are mean to me 12:39 TheRedMoodWin mean? 12:39 TheRedMoodWin How :o 12:39 TheRedMoodWin ! 12:39 NekoGloop By telling me what i have to be. 12:39 NekoGloop Now go away 12:40 TheRedMoodWin I did not :o 12:41 TheRedMoodWin :( 12:41 TheRedMoodWin Now you are being mean 12:41 TheRedMoodWin Telling me what I have told you to be. 12:41 TheRedMoodWin ! 12:42 NekoGloop You told me i needed to be a cat. 12:42 TheRedMoodWin No! 12:42 NekoGloop Now go away 12:42 TheRedMoodWin I did not 12:42 NekoGloop Yes you did 12:42 TheRedMoodWin I don't understand the consept of being a middle thing 12:42 TheRedMoodWin It doesn't click with my brain :s 12:42 NekoGloop Then dont try to 12:42 TheRedMoodWin Yes 12:43 NekoGloop And dont force me to be any one thing but what i want to be 12:43 NekoGloop Now shut up 12:43 TheRedMoodWin But seeing you as just a human was not fun 12:43 TheRedMoodWin Nope 12:43 TheRedMoodWin you are acusing me of doing something mean i did not do 12:43 NekoGloop p/art 12:43 NekoGloop Oops 12:44 TheRedMoodWin you just missed neko 12:44 TheRedMoodWin He was mean against me :( 12:44 CTMN With what? 13:54 NekoGloop shh 14:03 * NekoGloop slaps Calinou around a bit with a large trout 14:04 * Calinou slaps NekoGloop around a bit using a large shotgun 14:04 NekoGloop XD 14:04 NekoGloop nice 14:40 RealBadAngel hi all 14:42 grondilu What would you think of wireworld instead of red stone? 14:46 RealBadAngel ? 14:47 RealBadAngel wrong chanel? 14:47 RealBadAngel theres no redstone in minetest 14:49 RealBadAngel but if u r talkin bout MC, redpower is the best 14:53 RealBadAngel hi jordach 14:53 Jordach hello RealBadAngel 14:54 RealBadAngel seen new battery box? 14:54 Jordach nope. 14:54 RealBadAngel so go and check it out 14:55 RealBadAngel ive made it a bit nicer i think :) 14:58 * Jordach is sleepy 14:58 Jordach wait wait wait wait wait.... sfan5, when did VanessaE get op? 14:59 Jordach (or was it chanserv) 14:59 sfan5 yesterday 14:59 Jordach ah 15:02 * Jordach waits for MC 1.4 15:10 grondilu RealBadAngel: but isn't there any plan to implement something equivalent to redstone in minetest? 15:10 RealBadAngel grondilu, why a plan. seen mesecons? 15:11 * grondilu googles that 15:12 RealBadAngel mesecons.tk 15:12 RealBadAngel http://mesecons.tk/ 15:15 grondilu ok. I guess I need to learn a bit about mods ;) 15:18 RealBadAngel youre guessin right 15:20 RealBadAngel when on minetest.net please visit forums 15:20 RealBadAngel and mods section 15:24 * grondilu will do that 15:25 Lumpio- mese 8dD 15:26 Vohveli 8) 15:37 Jordach PilzAdam should make a mesecons clone that is actually fast 15:38 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=47947 <- there is a bit of truth in it 15:38 PilzAdam Jordach, i already did, but it was not good 15:38 Jordach PilzAdam, try. try...and try again 15:53 PilzAdam Jordach, can you create textures for them? the drawtype will be raillike 15:54 Jordach perhaps, yes 15:54 Jordach what colour? 15:54 PilzAdam dunno 15:54 Jordach copper from moreores? 15:55 Jordach (or am i over using since technic) 15:55 PilzAdam i dont what dependencies 15:55 Jordach so coal? 15:55 * Jordach assumes mese yellow 15:58 PilzAdam Jordach, i also need a raillike inverter 15:58 Jordach right 15:59 Jordach use a <-> arrow system? 15:59 PilzAdam dunno 16:04 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/77ySO.png 16:05 PilzAdam yep 16:05 Jordach (its not hard to make no power vers. 16:05 Jordach ) 16:05 Jordach i think pilzpower sounds good 16:06 PilzAdam mesecons++ 16:06 Lumpio- mese 8) 16:12 Jordach PilzAdam, any other items youd LOVE to mention? 16:13 PilzAdam let me first do the code 16:13 Jordach alright 16:14 Jordach http://ompldr.org/vZndtMQ/pilzadam-mesecons.zip 16:14 Jordach textures 16:14 Jordach (file names can be changed) 16:14 PilzAdam (file names can be changed) <- realy? how did you do that?!?! 16:14 thexyz 1. The community largely doesn't submit C++ code. 16:15 thexyz because nobody will accept it 16:15 Jordach thexyz, ask c55he fucked this project up the ass with no optimisation 16:15 thexyz oh fuck, that may be considered as trolling 16:16 Jordach tell me, if he is too lazy to do something, something forked from it will come around 16:16 Jordach and be better than the original 16:16 NakedFury the problem is that this new fork would neeed enough support from us to work 16:17 Jordach see jachoo's fork 16:17 Jordach it died 16:18 Jordach sfan5, done mind me saying this...but, BLOCKPLANET actually did things, but died becauise nothing new got done... 16:18 Jordach WE NEED kahrl 16:18 NakedFury blockplanet did things but died because they wanted to switch to java then make another game 16:19 hmmmm ahhg! 16:19 thexyz Jordach: why don't you optimise it then? 16:19 hmmmm i'm setting up the github account now 16:19 hmmmm don't get too upset 16:20 Jordach ^ thank you 16:20 Jordach thexyz, c55 wont ever accept any code but his 16:20 Jordach and then, re does it and says you did nothing 16:20 thexyz hmmmm: i think you should also cooperate with yunfan 16:20 hmmmm never heard of him 16:21 thexyz hmmmm: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-delta/2012-10-16#i_2568962 16:21 thexyz (actually, me too) 16:22 hmmmm it uses sqlite because storing the data in a binary file format was slower 16:22 hmmmm but i highly suspect that they were doing it wrong at the time 16:23 hmmmm because that defies lots of logic 16:24 sfan5 hmmmm: we need a single file that is small and fast to read 16:24 hmmmm well, yeah.... 16:26 NakedFury vanessa did a small but usefull patch to the source 16:26 Jordach wait, i think wokste from the forums had something... 16:26 * Jordach looks for it# 16:27 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3005 16:27 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3410 16:27 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44395#p44395 16:33 hmmmm crap 16:33 thexyz um? 16:33 hmmmm looks like some guy from poland already took my username 16:34 Jordach hmmmm, hmm, what to do? 16:34 hmmmm use 'hmmmmm'? 16:34 hmmmm i don't want to do that, though 16:34 hmmmm i will eventually be dumping my personal stuff on here and it needs to be professional 16:34 * Jordach dissapeards 17:00 thexyz hmmmm: so..? 17:00 NakedFury fuck. the server keeps rolling back all I do 17:01 thexyz NakedFury: what server? 17:01 NakedFury oldcoders minetest.org 30000 17:01 NakedFury its weird 17:01 NakedFury those it in patches. not always the most recent thing 17:02 NakedFury and it doesnt give back the materials 17:02 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2084 17:04 hmmmm thexyz, i'm doing other stuff at the moment 17:04 hmmmm is that the server you said can only handle 60-70 players? 17:05 thexyz yep, vanilla minetest without fire mod was tested 17:05 thexyz although the server itself is pretty fast 17:07 hmmmm that's really sad 17:07 hmmmm and disk io seems to be the bottleneck you said? 17:07 thexyz i didn't 17:07 thexyz that's yunfan's thought 17:07 thexyz it seems 17:08 thexyz could moving to mysql help to reduce disk io? 17:09 hmmmm yikes, mysql is pretty heavyweight 17:09 hmmmm but if it is the map saving/loading that's the bottleneck, then doing the map format the right way would solve the problem 17:09 thexyz even compared to sqlite? 17:09 hmmmm i personally don't like how sql is being used for something that's way better as a binary format 17:09 hmmmm of course 17:11 Jordach cant we use the old sectors format found in 0.2 17:12 thexyz isn't it even worse? 17:16 Jordach it may be an old map format, but it actually ran fine 17:16 Jordach (c55 did it because he knew it would becom worse) 17:16 thexyz isn't key-value storage enough? 17:17 thexyz it seems we only need to access block by its position 17:21 thexyz well, even map should be enough 17:25 thexyz could that be implemented as different backends? 17:32 PilzAdam Jordach, i get many stack overflows with PilzPower :( 17:33 Jordach oh 17:33 Jordach base it from a abm 17:33 PilzAdam that is why mesecons is slow 17:33 PilzAdam and you wanted fast mesecons 17:35 Jordach hm, could you github it 17:36 Jordach see if it works fine on my pc 17:36 Jordach (since windows might work compared to linux) 17:36 Jordach ....for once 17:36 PilzAdam i dont think so 17:36 PilzAdam http://ompldr.org/vZndubw/pilzpower.zip 17:36 PilzAdam ^ try it 17:37 PilzAdam (the debug block has "unknown block" textures; it gives the signal on) 17:37 PilzAdam dont build circuits 17:47 NakedFury I have a question. Im trying to make a new bucket that can only take water. I tried a simple copy paste of the bucket code with new names and textures. I didnt work. it just made the default bucket switch to mine when it was used. for the new bucket to work would I need to edit more of the code, possibly rename some variables so they are only called by my wood bucket? 17:58 thexyz NakedFury: pastebin your code 17:58 NakedFury http://pastebin.com/MWYj4EWn 17:59 NakedFury like I said a copy paste with name changes 18:01 thexyz you should also replace `bucket` with something 18:01 thexyz like, you have bucket = {} bucket.liquids = {}, but you should have alternative = {} alternative.liquids = {}, etc.. 18:03 cosarara971 asdf 18:03 cosarara971 huh, I'm cosarara971 18:04 cosarara97 :) 18:08 khonkhortisan aoeu 18:15 khonkhortisan hi bye Jeija 18:23 PilzAdam bye 18:24 khonkhortisan that was odd, I had to make a new local branch to pull my remote one. 18:27 anunakki man the houses i've built on europe map 18:27 anunakki are hawt 18:28 TheRedMoodWin khonkhortisan what are you making? 18:29 khonkhortisan right now I'm removing some of the creative inventory and renaming the descriptions in the chess mod 18:34 khonkhortisan Uberi is online more often than bas080 18:43 NakedFury ok so changed the lines to another name but now I get an error on line 9(which is where the bucket = {} was: attempt to concatenate a nil value. stack traceback: ...box-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\alternatives\init.lua:9: in main chunk 18:43 NakedFury http://pastebin.com/A4MZbfzQ 18:44 thexyz um? 9th line is " }" 18:44 khonkhortisan yeah, ending the recipe. 18:44 NakedFury no sorry 18:45 thexyz not "bucket = { 18:45 NakedFury line 9 is the first line in the pastebin 18:45 khonkhortisan then add empty lines to it 18:45 NakedFury sorry 18:46 NakedFury the first few lines I just add general info like mod name, made by blahblah with help from blah. license and date of last edit 18:46 NakedFury in comments 18:46 thexyz that's because you use altwood and altw 18:46 thexyz and you should use only one of them 18:46 thexyz (well, not should, but that'd be easier) 18:47 thexyz so, altwood = {} altwood.liquids = {}, ... 18:47 khonkhortisan I don't have to put the date in, git takes care of that. 18:48 NakedFury ok so it would be easier to just change the buckets.liquids to something and leave the bucket = {} alone? 18:49 thexyz no, no, you should also replace bucket = {} with altwood = {} 18:49 thexyz change every `bucket` occurence to `altwood` 18:49 thexyz or whatever 18:50 khonkhortisan There should be a smaller bucket that only uses _flowing 18:50 khonkhortisan ^ would create a useless item 18:59 NakedFury im trying to find what ~= means but they are just mentioned and not defined in manuals where I look. 19:01 VanessaE "not equals" 19:01 cosarara97 ~= means not equal, doesn't it 19:01 * VanessaE fades back out 19:02 * cosarara97 wonders what is the exact meaning of "to fade back out" 19:02 khonkhortisan at my font size ~= looks like -= 19:03 khonkhortisan but the first one is a longer dash 19:03 cosarara97 change font size :) 19:03 NakedFury thanks. google sucks. I am being very specific in my search: what does ~= mean in coding(tried in lua) and yet it looks for: what does this code mean? what does coding mean? what does % mean in c/c++? what does code mean at the hospital? 19:03 khonkhortisan 6 -> 7 19:03 khonkhortisan now everything looks tall 19:04 cosarara97 khonkhortisan: what font are you using? 19:04 khonkhortisan "A ~= B" == "not( A == B)" 19:04 khonkhortisan monospace 7 now 19:04 cosarara97 NakedFury: Google doesn't understand questions, you must use keywords 19:04 khonkhortisan monospace 6 is only shorter, not narrower 19:04 cosarara97 also, afaik, it doesn't understand the ~ symbol either 19:05 VanessaE 7? shit I can't read smaller than 12 or 13 pt 19:05 NakedFury ohh that explains much cosarara 19:05 khonkhortisan I'm nearsighted :) 19:06 Jordach i can read 8pt at 4 foot + on my screen 19:06 NakedFury mine is Monospace size 9 19:06 Jordach (in fact the irc is 8pt arial) 19:08 * Jordach wonders what the outside world is like 19:09 NakedFury boring and dirty 19:09 * cosarara97 found he uses 11 pt sans serif 19:12 cosarara97 the outside world is big 19:12 cosarara97 but boring 19:13 VanessaE the big blue room? looks nice to me :-) 19:13 VanessaE damn overhead light is too bright though. 19:15 Jordach VanessaE, your textures look nice under mc 19:15 khonkhortisan you need monospace to read irc ascii art 19:16 cosarara97 I like monospace 19:16 Jordach (but not nice enough ;) ) 19:16 VanessaE of course they do - that's because *I* created them :-) 19:17 cosarara97 Useless mod idea: The ASCII mod 19:17 cosarara97 "write" ascii art inside minetest :D 19:19 khonkhortisan QR codes work just fine without a mod 19:19 VanessaE there are already a couple of "text" mods 19:19 VanessaE they add just regular letters/numbers though 19:19 cosarara97 really? Didn't know 19:19 VanessaE add more and you've got ASCII art. :-) 19:20 cosarara97 btw, forum's mysql server is down 19:21 khonkhortisan there should be a character node that has only one craft, where it changes textures based on its formspec. That would be better than having to craft every letter. 19:21 Jordach VanessaE, link me to your 64px pack 19:21 cosarara97 formspec? 19:21 khonkhortisan the right-click menu. 19:21 * Jordach warms Google Chrome's tyres 19:21 khonkhortisan formspec is what it's called in the code 19:21 * cosarara97 uses firefox 19:22 * khonkhortisan uses firefox addons 19:22 VanessaE Jordach: https://github.com/VanessaE/64px-realistic-textures 19:22 VanessaE forums are down btw 19:22 khonkhortisan it wasn't me! 19:22 cosarara97 cosarara97: btw, forum's mysql server is down 19:22 cosarara97 I just said it 19:22 VanessaE haha 19:22 VanessaE I missed that :-) 19:22 * Jordach says no fuckin' shit :( 19:22 cosarara97 ? 19:22 Jordach )* 19:24 VanessaE I think I killed the mysql server this time :-/ 19:24 VanessaE (deleting some duplicate messages) 19:24 cosarara97 lol 19:25 cosarara97 bug in BBS or you did something wrong? 19:26 VanessaE I'm kidding :-) 19:27 cosarara97 oh 19:27 VanessaE I mean the server crashed while I was deleting a duplicate message via the forum UI like usual 19:27 * cosarara97 believes almost everything 19:30 * Jordach does not believe everything on the internet 19:30 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE 19:30 VanessaE hm? 19:30 TheRedMoodWin You probebly crashed it, miss. 19:30 * cosarara97 neither 19:30 VanessaE :P 19:30 TheRedMoodWin I would recommend restarting it, and making sure that all the messages from the fail are stored 19:31 TheRedMoodWin What framework is the forums runned on? 19:31 VanessaE that's up to c55 19:31 VanessaE PunBB, but I dunno where the server it 19:31 VanessaE is 19:31 TheRedMoodWin X3 19:31 TheRedMoodWin And VanessaE can we take that talk now? 19:31 khonkhortisan oh THAT error. 19:31 TheRedMoodWin She is out of the house now 19:31 TheRedMoodWin :D 19:31 cosarara97 WHAT error? 19:32 TheRedMoodWin THAT error :o 19:32 khonkhortisan the page worked fine if I didn't press any buttons 19:32 VanessaE TheRedMoodWin: actually I don't have time for a long chat right now 19:32 VanessaE abe and I are doing some homework regarding our pending move 19:32 TheRedMoodWin Abe? 19:32 TheRedMoodWin :o 19:33 TheRedMoodWin The fine sir that captured your heart? 19:33 VanessaE my husbadn 19:33 VanessaE husband* 19:33 TheRedMoodWin Ohh i see. 19:33 cosarara97 heh 19:33 Jordach VanessaE 19:33 VanessaE hm? 19:34 * Jordach notes your 64px pack looks SUSPICIOUSLY like Misas pack 19:34 VanessaE Jordach: it looks similar yeah - remember misa's was a model for the 512px pack. the 64 pack is derived from the 512px one, so it'll look similar. 19:34 VanessaE but most definitely *not* the same 19:36 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE, But there are no girly tips`? 19:36 cosarara97 what are girly tips? 19:36 VanessaE eh? 19:37 TheRedMoodWin I am trying to find a gift for my girlfriend 19:37 * Jordach falls into the same problem 19:37 VanessaE oh yes - I wasn't sure if you meant that or something else 19:38 Jordach VanessaE, wait. 19:38 Jordach dont +b just yet 19:38 TheRedMoodWin :o 19:38 cosarara97 +b? 19:38 TheRedMoodWin What is +b? 19:38 TheRedMoodWin X3e 19:38 LandMineMT lol 19:38 LandMineMT she gave up i think 19:38 Jordach mode +b = ban 19:38 LandMineMT she cant b me 19:38 LandMineMT what do you want? 19:38 TheRedMoodWin O_O 19:38 VanessaE TheRedMoodWin: LandMineMT has the IP of a known griefer 19:38 MiJyn hi LandMineMT! 19:38 Jordach LandMineMT, state your business 19:38 LandMineMT hi 19:38 TheRedMoodWin Does that mean I need to hug him? 19:39 TheRedMoodWin O_O 19:39 TheRedMoodWin Wait a seceound...... 19:39 TheRedMoodWin He 19:39 TheRedMoodWin Is a greifer? 19:39 TheRedMoodWin :D 19:39 TheRedMoodWin O_O 19:39 TheRedMoodWin WAIT WAIT WAIT! 19:39 VanessaE bye bye. 19:39 cosarara97 lol 19:39 TheRedMoodWin :o 19:39 VanessaE oops 19:39 TheRedMoodWin I wanted to say goodby to him :( 19:40 VanessaE there, got the syntax wrong the first time. 19:40 Jordach VanessaE, <Jordach> VanessaE, wait. 19:40 TheRedMoodWin :( 19:40 cosarara97 :( 19:40 VanessaE [10-16 15:38] she gave up i think 19:40 VanessaE [10-16 15:38] she cant b me 19:40 VanessaE that 19:40 VanessaE that's all I needed. 19:40 cosarara97 ok 19:40 Jordach nope. 19:41 TheRedMoodWin But we never got to say goodby to him ; ~ ; 19:41 TheRedMoodWin What if he feels unvanted? 19:41 VanessaE he IS unwanted. 19:41 TheRedMoodWin unwanted* 19:41 TheRedMoodWin Ohh 19:41 TheRedMoodWin So we want him to feel unwanted? 19:42 cosarara97 yes 19:42 cosarara97 heh 19:42 TheRedMoodWin Ohhh! 19:42 TheRedMoodWin Sorry 19:42 NakedFury cockroach 19:42 TheRedMoodWin X3 19:42 VanessaE TheRedMoodWin: he trolls, griefs, claims to be unbannable, harasses people. 19:42 NakedFury he is a cockroach and should be ignore 19:42 cosarara97 If we don't want him, we won't make him feel wanted, right? 19:42 NakedFury yet you people keep talking to him 19:43 cosarara97 because feeding the trolls can be fun 19:43 cosarara97 sometimes 19:44 TheRedMoodWin But VanessaE can you give me some tips in the private msg? 19:44 VanessaE wish I could but really I just don't know 19:44 cosarara97 TheRedMoodWin: I'd google it :) 19:45 TheRedMoodWin :( 19:45 OldCoder Back 19:45 VanessaE I mean, I'd suggest things like a nice dress or something 19:45 Jordach hello OldCoder our "old" friend popped in 19:45 Jordach ;) 19:45 OldCoder Jordach, hi 19:45 VanessaE but when I was that age, I just didn't have that much experience with relationships - I was a loner then 19:46 cosarara97 huh, that guy used to be friend of yours? 19:46 VanessaE that was 23 years ago for me, so I can only really speak from an adult's perspective now :-) 19:46 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE :( I can tell you that fine dress is nothing she would fancy 19:46 * cosarara97 has no relationships 19:46 TheRedMoodWin Well you are still a child 19:46 VanessaE me? 38 is hardly a child :-) 19:46 NakedFury TheRedMoodWin: if there is something movies or books can teach us is that the gift must come from the heart. 19:47 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE, it is mental :) 19:47 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE An adult doesn' 19:47 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE an adult doesn't take things like these seriously 19:47 VanessaE you'd be surprised, TheRedMoodWin. 19:47 TheRedMoodWin No 19:47 TheRedMoodWin I would not. 19:48 TheRedMoodWin You care in the way that children and people witha good young spirit does 19:48 VanessaE some of us have child-like minds at times :-) 19:49 TheRedMoodWin And that is very good 19:49 TheRedMoodWin :) 19:50 TheRedMoodWin The day I give up is the day that I can no longer say that I am child in the mind 19:50 TheRedMoodWin Hmm 19:50 cosarara97 children give up, sometimes 19:50 cosarara97 on flying, for example :) 19:51 TheRedMoodWin No 19:51 TheRedMoodWin No child ever give up the thought of flying 19:51 TheRedMoodWin I never have :) 19:52 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE Common, there have to be a jack of all trades 19:52 cosarara97 Then I grew up way too young 19:52 * VanessaE shrugs 19:54 * TheRedMoodWin looks at VanessaE like a little child wanting THAT red ball in the store 19:54 TheRedMoodWin :D 19:55 khonkhortisan I wanted THAT bike in the store. Even though it was some assembly required, I got the built one. 19:55 MiJyn * VanessaE sets ban on *!*@189.144.168 * VanessaE has kicked LandMineMT from #minetest (LandMineMT) 19:55 MiJyn What did he do? 19:55 MiJyn He _was_ a grief 19:55 MiJyn *griefer 19:55 MiJyn doesn't mean he still is 19:55 MiJyn you just don't forgive people 19:55 MiJyn you don't give people a second chance 19:55 khonkhortisan LandMineMT> lol 19:55 khonkhortisan 12:39| she gave up i think 19:55 khonkhortisan 12:39| she cant b me 19:55 cosarara97 that 19:55 khonkhortisan something about that 19:56 TheRedMoodWin HEY! 19:56 khonkhortisan HELLO! 19:56 cosarara97 And well, it's just the internet - he could always get a new nickname and be a good person 19:57 TheRedMoodWin MiJyn Was that a bad word against, Mrs 19:57 TheRedMoodWin ? 19:57 TheRedMoodWin D:< 19:57 VanessaE MiJyn: when someone claims to be unbannable, that's an invite to ban. 19:57 cosarara97 it is 19:57 VanessaE especially if they've made that claim multiple times. 19:57 TheRedMoodWin okey cosarara97 lets beath him 19:57 TheRedMoodWin beat* 19:58 cosarara97 I didn't say that 19:58 cosarara97 I just understand the point of view 19:58 TheRedMoodWin No 19:58 TheRedMoodWin Lets beat MiJyn 19:58 cosarara97 oj 19:58 cosarara97 oh 19:58 cosarara97 lol 19:58 cosarara97 no 19:59 * cosarara97 doesn't like beating people 19:59 TheRedMoodWin cosarara97 you can hold him 19:59 TheRedMoodWin And i can tickle him :D 19:59 TheRedMoodWin Until he.. 19:59 TheRedMoodWin DIES :D 19:59 cosarara97 oh, well then.... wait, no! 19:59 TheRedMoodWin Ohh 19:59 TheRedMoodWin ? 19:59 * TheRedMoodWin hugs cosarara97 19:59 TheRedMoodWin :D 20:00 * cosarara97 escapes from TheRedMoodWin 20:00 * cosarara97 runs away 20:00 TheRedMoodWin :o 20:00 TheRedMoodWin *sniff* 20:00 TheRedMoodWin *sniff* 20:00 TheRedMoodWin :( 20:01 Jordach weird 20:01 Jordach MiJyn only appears where landmine is to be found 20:01 * cosarara97 tells TheRedMoodWin to hug somebody else 20:01 * Jordach scratches chin 20:01 Jordach night all 20:01 TheRedMoodWin *sniff* 20:01 TheRedMoodWin Jordach 20:01 TheRedMoodWin Are you my friend :o 20:01 Jordach VanessaE, done about 40% of the terrain; also: texture farming mod 20:02 VanessaE some day I'll add it. 20:02 Jordach TheRedMoodWin, go ahead 20:02 iqualfragile gn8 20:02 VanessaE but that needs lots of new imagery that I'm too lazy to look for :-) 20:02 * TheRedMoodWin hugs Jordach 20:02 Jordach VanessaE, alright, but your mc pack wont get more done 20:02 TheRedMoodWin :D 20:02 Jordach ;) 20:02 Jordach night all 20:02 * TheRedMoodWin lets go of Jordach 20:02 TheRedMoodWin GOOD NIGHT :D 20:02 TheRedMoodWin :( 20:02 cosarara97 too late 20:02 * TheRedMoodWin picks cosarara97 up from the ground with one hand 20:03 TheRedMoodWin Shut it, meanie :( 20:03 cosarara97 ? 20:03 TheRedMoodWin You are mean 20:03 TheRedMoodWin :( 20:03 cosarara97 I'm not 20:04 cosarara97 Why do you think I am? 20:04 cosarara97 Why would I have to let me hug you? 20:04 cosarara97 lol 20:04 cosarara97 wrong sentence 20:04 cosarara97 let you hug me* 20:04 TheRedMoodWin Because you ran away :( 20:05 TheRedMoodWin YOu never even tried to say no. 20:05 TheRedMoodWin You just ran away :( 20:05 TheRedMoodWin http://cython.org/index.html 20:05 TheRedMoodWin My new project after redsand 20:06 TheRedMoodWin Trying to implement a python interface for minetest :D 20:06 cosarara97 good 20:06 cosarara97 I'd like that 20:06 * cosarara97 likes python 20:07 cosarara97 but that link you gave isn't what you are looking for, I think 20:09 MiJyn LandMineMT> lol 20:09 MiJyn 12:39| she gave up i think 20:09 MiJyn 12:39| she cant b me 20:09 MiJyn and? 20:10 MiJyn MiJyn: when someone claims to be unbannable, that's an invite to ban. 20:10 MiJyn Wrong 20:10 cosarara97 This is the wild west 20:10 MiJyn It's an invite to giving a person a second chance 20:10 cosarara97 It isn't ¬¬ 20:10 MiJyn because it usually means that that person is just out 20:10 cosarara97 out? 20:11 MiJyn okey cosarara97 lets beath him 20:11 MiJyn beat* 20:11 MiJyn I didn't say that 20:11 MiJyn I just understand the point of view 20:11 MiJyn No 20:11 MiJyn Lets beat MiJyn 20:11 MiJyn ?? 20:12 MiJyn weird 20:12 MiJyn MiJyn only appears where landmine is to be found 20:12 cosarara97 heh 20:12 MiJyn Yep! 20:12 cosarara97 oh? 20:12 JangoFett154 hey guys 20:12 cosarara97 hi 20:12 MiJyn he was probably just trying to get some... (dang, I forgot the word) back 20:13 cosarara97 remember the word 20:13 cosarara97 :) 20:13 Muadtralk anyone have an inkling why minetest gives a std::bad_alloc when a new user joined? 20:13 MiJyn respect 20:13 MiJyn that was the word 20:13 MiJyn I think 20:14 JangoFett154 hey oldcoder you here? 20:14 jordach_tablet hey huygs 20:14 jordach_tablet guys 20:14 OldCoder JangoFett154, yes 20:14 JangoFett154 hi 20:15 * jordach_tablet pokes VanessaE with a iPad2 20:16 * Muadtralk stabs a hippy with an envelope 20:16 cosarara97 lol what? 20:17 Muadtralk just felt i had to put something to counter the word ipad being brought up 20:17 iqualfragile i just wanted to do the same, then i read your answer 20:17 NakedFury OldCoder: there is something wrong in world 30000. every few minutes all work done gets rolled back, like a reset without returning materials. 20:18 jordach_tablet muadtralk, y u change nick from Sdzen? 20:18 OldCoder NakedFury, I'll check in a few minutes 20:18 skully_ colcoder 20:18 sdzen better? 20:18 skully_ oldcoder 20:19 jordach_tablet i never Minded :-) 20:19 * cosarara97 never changed his nickname 20:20 OldCoder skully_, Hi 20:25 TheRedMoodWin tWgy not? 20:25 * TheRedMoodWin puts down cosarara97 20:26 TheRedMoodWin cosarara97 whats wrong with the link i gaave you? 20:26 * cosarara97 doesn't know what putting down someone mean 20:26 TheRedMoodWin I had you in the air with my arm all this time 20:26 TheRedMoodWin So i lower you to the ground now :) 20:26 cosarara97 oh, thanks 20:27 TheRedMoodWin Because we are friends again 20:27 TheRedMoodWin I am not one for being long sadness :D 20:28 cosarara97 well, I'm not sure if I understood it well, but I think that was about writing functions in C for python programs 20:28 TheRedMoodWin Ohh 20:28 TheRedMoodWin Yes it is 20:29 TheRedMoodWin But it is also for implementing the python into C 20:30 cosarara97 Well, you shouldn't have been sad in the first place, because you left me alone yesterday 20:30 TheRedMoodWin I Did i? 20:30 TheRedMoodWin OHh! 20:30 TheRedMoodWin WAIT 20:30 TheRedMoodWin WAIT WAIT WAIT! 20:30 cosarara97 I'm waiting 20:30 TheRedMoodWin YOU CAN'T HOLD THAT AGAINST ME! 20:30 cosarara97 I can't? 20:30 TheRedMoodWin NO! 20:30 TheRedMoodWin My little sister was crying, sir/miss 20:30 cosarara97 oh 20:31 cosarara97 sir 20:31 cosarara97 didn't know 20:32 TheRedMoodWin it is okey :) 20:35 TheRedMoodWin But I think it is fair game to put little sister before this 20:35 cosarara97 I agree 20:36 TheRedMoodWin Okey 20:36 TheRedMoodWin Thanks 20:37 JangoFett154 FORUM IS DOWN :/ 20:37 JangoFett154 sorry for caps 20:37 cosarara97 It's been down for a while 20:38 cosarara97 VanessaE's fault (not true) 20:38 MiJyn would think it is lol 20:38 MiJyn :P 20:39 VanessaE :P 20:45 NakedFury ugh forgot about the forum for a sec. just when you need it most 20:46 cosarara97 You have us here :) 20:46 khonkhortisan and github is up 20:46 khonkhortisan and minetest servers 20:48 NakedFury I just wanted to browse the mods to see if any of them add new water holding devices and study the code 20:48 khonkhortisan pipeworks would 20:48 cosarara97 water holding devices? like the bucket? 20:49 NakedFury yes 20:49 khonkhortisan or like a pressure washer 20:49 cosarara97 what do you want to do? 20:49 NakedFury all changes I try to make dont work, so Ill look for another bucket code and study the process 20:49 cosarara97 the original bucket code is easy 20:50 NakedFury yes but changing it keeps giving same error 20:50 cosarara97 what error? 20:50 NakedFury attempt to concatenate nil value 20:50 cosarara97 oh, that's easy 20:51 cosarara97 you are trying to do something like "a"..nil 20:51 cosarara97 but nil is a variable 20:51 cosarara97 you don't know it's nil 20:51 NakedFury im changing the lines bucket = {} and bucket.liquids = {} to altwood and altw.liquids. 20:51 cosarara97 and "a" is likely to be a variable as well 20:51 cosarara97 ah 20:52 cosarara97 then you must change everywhere where it says "bucket." 20:52 cosarara97 and write altw there 20:52 NakedFury the code is the same. just renaming bucket name and description and those two rename all over 20:53 cosarara97 Well, it should tell you the line where the error was produced 20:53 NakedFury altwood = {} 20:53 cosarara97 there? 20:53 TheRedMoodWin NakedFury 20:53 TheRedMoodWin Can you please pastebin it ? 20:53 cosarara97 yeah, it'll be better 20:53 NakedFury getting the stuff 20:54 TheRedMoodWin I am kinda good at making test statments 20:54 TheRedMoodWin Or I should say that I am paranoid 20:54 TheRedMoodWin x3 20:54 NakedFury http://pastebin.com/kE2ExtaK code next error: http://pastebin.com/1B11Bv7C 20:54 TheRedMoodWin I make tests for even values that if my code works never can be null 20:55 TheRedMoodWin if itemname ~= nil then 20:55 TheRedMoodWin Whhy the ~? 20:55 NakedFury dont ask me 20:55 cosarara97 heh 20:55 NakedFury I didnt touch the code 20:55 cosarara97 easy 20:55 NakedFury just renamed the necessary stuff 20:55 cosarara97 altwood 20:55 cosarara97 altw.liquids 20:55 cosarara97 what is altw? 20:55 cosarara97 :) 20:55 cosarara97 lua doesn't know 20:55 NakedFury it has to be altwood too? 20:56 cosarara97 yes 20:56 NakedFury before it was bucket and bucket.liquids 20:56 cosarara97 or there has to be an altw = {} 20:56 NakedFury ok fixing 20:56 TheRedMoodWin cosarara97 how did i not see that? 20:56 cosarara97 bucket and bucket, altw and altwood 20:56 TheRedMoodWin I am really bad at lua x3 20:56 TheRedMoodWin X3 20:56 NakedFury dammit so simple 20:56 TheRedMoodWin And i am sleepy 20:56 TheRedMoodWin And bad 20:57 TheRedMoodWin At everything :( 20:57 khonkhortisan "altwood = {} altwood.liquids = {}" is the same as "altwood = { liquids = {} }" 20:57 TheRedMoodWin I am going to go to bed now :( 20:57 cosarara97 ok 20:57 TheRedMoodWin Without no one to cheer me up :( 20:57 khonkhortisan I didn't see it either 20:57 khonkhortisan hooray! life is great! 20:57 cosarara97 cheer someone up? 20:58 TheRedMoodWin Thank khonkhortisan :D 20:58 TheRedMoodWin Now i am not sad anymore :D 20:58 cosarara97 lol 20:58 * TheRedMoodWin is a simple minded person 20:58 cosarara97 You shouldn't feel stupid for not seeing a bug 20:58 cosarara97 It happens to everybody 20:58 khonkhortisan that's how bugs are made 20:59 cosarara97 maybe all programmers are a bit stupid :) 20:59 khonkhortisan the computer is too logical 20:59 cosarara97 is it? 20:59 TheRedMoodWin no 20:59 TheRedMoodWin You guys are not 21:00 cosarara97 you aren't either 21:00 TheRedMoodWin allowed to have such convos while I am gone 21:00 cosarara97 convos? 21:01 cosarara97 Well, I'm going to bed 21:01 cosarara97 bye 21:03 khonkhortisan it's only 2 PM 21:15 cosarara97 One day people will learn about time zones (Barcelona) - really going to bed now 21:19 iqualfragile gn8 21:27 khonkhortisan I forget that time zones go a full 24 hours 21:56 RealBadAngel hi 21:57 khonkhortisan hello 21:57 RealBadAngel anybody knows why forums is down? 21:58 MiJyn hi 21:58 khonkhortisan something with mysql 21:58 VanessaE it's my fault - I acted like a proper moderator and deleted a couple of duplicate posts :-) 21:58 VanessaE that's the only thing I can think of 21:58 RealBadAngel lol 21:59 VanessaE seriously though I have no idea wtf is wrong, but I always seem to go through withdrawal every time the forums go down :-S 22:00 khonkhortisan What does "failed to emerge player" actually mean? Is the server ahead of the client? 22:00 RealBadAngel are you sure you have pressed "delete post" not the "nuke the damn thing" button? ;) 22:00 VanessaE lol 22:00 khonkhortisan I'd go through withdrawal if github was down 22:00 khonkhortisan I don't use the forum much 22:01 khonkhortisan "git merge" is the nuke button 22:02 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, i quess its bout lags 22:02 RealBadAngel *g 22:04 khonkhortisan ? 22:10 RealBadAngel anybody knows how the perlin generator works? 22:10 VanessaE if you ask hmmmm, the answer might be "very slowly". :-) 22:10 RealBadAngel hehehe 22:11 VanessaE (he's been investigating the efficacy of the perlin code) 22:11 RealBadAngel ive used generate_ore to get marble 22:12 RealBadAngel but its somehow laggy 22:13 RealBadAngel and i have it everywhere, maybe with perlin i could reduce the amount to certain areas only 22:14 OldCoder Hi 22:14 NakedFury if we had biomes you could tell marble to generate on areas of a specific biome 22:14 OldCoder Somebody had a problem at 30000 ? 22:14 OldCoder Reviewing 22:15 hmmmm generate_ore does not use perlin noise, only PseudoRandom (plain LCG) 22:15 hmmmm register_on_generated uses perlin noise for papayrus and cacti though 22:16 VanessaE hah, speak of the devil and he shall appear :-) 22:16 hmmmm if you plan to use perlin noise in your mods, don't worry about slowness too much, i'll have perlin noise 'map' functions where you request a certain sized chunk starting at a specified X,Y coord 22:17 RealBadAngel i would like to use it but have no glue what parameters means and how to use it :) 22:17 hmmmm so to convert old mods that use the perlin:get2d() functions, you'd basically call perlin:getmap2d() outside of the loop, and then replace where you'd have perlin:get2d() with an access of the array that it returns 22:17 hmmmm oh, you just don't know how it works 22:17 RealBadAngel yup :) 22:18 RealBadAngel thats the problem 22:18 hmmmm each 'octave' is an iteration of the gradient noise function 22:18 hmmmm with each octave, you get smaller details and a more complex map 22:18 hmmmm persistance is how much each of these iterations have an effect on the whole thing 22:18 hmmmm so it sort of fades out with each smaller addition of gradient noise 22:19 hmmmm are you good at math? 22:19 hmmmm i can explain it better that way 22:19 khonkhortisan fractal! 22:19 RealBadAngel rather yes, had some math in high school 22:20 hmmmm alright 22:20 hmmmm you have this 'gradient' function that'll return a value in a range from -1 to 1 22:21 hmmmm for each octave, you have the perlin value of gradient(x / spread, y / spread, seed + i) * persistance 22:22 hmmmm and you take the sum of these for as many octaves there are 22:22 hmmmm the 'spread' is how big the details of the perlin noise are 22:22 hmmmm for each octave, the spread is doubled 22:22 hmmmm or rather halved 22:22 hmmmm and the persistance is halved as well 22:23 hmmmm and a new seed is used for each round 22:23 hmmmm that probably didn't help much... sorry 22:23 RealBadAngel it helps 22:24 RealBadAngel lets try to use it 22:28 RealBadAngel what is the difference between perlin 2d and 3d? 22:28 RealBadAngel what is the difference between perlin 2d and 3d? 22:29 hmmmmmm 2d gives you a value from specifying 3 points in space, for 2d, 2 22:29 hmmmmmm 3d gives you a value from specifying 3 points in space* 22:30 RealBadAngel so if i want to locate marble deposits on certain depth i shall use 3d? 22:30 hmmmmmm think of it like this: 2d is a square, and the value you get from perlin noise is how dark the point is, 3d is a cube, and the value you get is how dense that point is 22:30 hmmmmmm no!!! 22:30 hmmmmmm 3d is very very slow 22:31 RealBadAngel btw some1 has implemented use of perlin somwhere? 22:31 hmmmmmm use 2d perlin, start at some y position, and then vary the y based on a PseudoRandom range from -1 to 1 perhaps 22:32 RealBadAngel ive heard calinou talkin bout perlin and ores but cant see it here 22:33 FreeFull hmmmmmm: If you vary the y then you will just get streaks 22:34 FreeFull Or rather, long tubes of ores 22:34 RealBadAngel FreeFull, im not goin to make ores, i want marble deposits 22:34 RealBadAngel that replaces stone in certain areas 22:35 FreeFull Just wire into the map generation engine 22:35 RealBadAngel ive used generate_ore to make them but i think game got laggy because of it 22:36 FreeFull You should look at how the default game defines stuff 22:38 FreeFull Actually, seems that wouldn't work 22:38 FreeFull You could replace gravel with marble, but that would make marble rather rare 22:41 RealBadAngel generate_ore("technic:marble", "default:stone", minp, maxp, get_next_seed(), 22:41 RealBadAngel 1/32, 20, -150, -32) 22:42 RealBadAngel thats what im using right now 22:42 VanessaE WHAT? someone who doesn't use 1/x/x/x/x/x/x/x/x..... for the ore chance? :-) 22:42 RealBadAngel its not the ore 22:43 RealBadAngel it actually makes nice marble caves 22:44 RealBadAngel i could be satisfied with it but i do get generation everywhere 23:04 M13 is minetest forum down? 23:04 NakedFury yes 23:04 M13 ok 23:04 M13 thnx for info 23:05 RealBadAngel this is how it looks like by now: http://realbadangel.pl/marble.png 23:05 NakedFury that is interesting. instead of ores to bring other natural resources like marble 23:06 RealBadAngel what is dtime_jitter parameter in debug? 23:07 M13 idk 23:07 M13 do you know? 23:07 RealBadAngel askin because it jumps from like 10% to over 1000% 23:12 RealBadAngel first dug marble in the world, placed on the ground :) http://realbadangel.pl/marble1.png 23:14 RealBadAngel strange farming error just hit me 23:15 RealBadAngel 01:13:48: INFO[EmergeThread]: on_generated took 1684ms 23:15 RealBadAngel the price for the marble caves :) 23:16 GloopMaster marble. cool/ 23:16 GloopMaster whatever 23:16 GloopMaster what's with the forums? 23:17 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/marble.png 23:17 RealBadAngel down 23:19 M13 is anyone working on the forums? 23:20 RealBadAngel another screenshot: http://realbadangel.pl/marble2.png 23:20 VanessaE nice 23:20 M13 and what does this mean? 23:20 M13 Unable to connect to MySQL and select database. MySQL reported: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.8.0.26' (111) 23:21 NakedFury it means bad vanessa. bad! 23:21 VanessaE hey now 23:21 M13 lol 23:21 VanessaE I just deleted a duplicate post, not clicked the "make forums explode" button :-) 23:21 NakedFury VanessaE "Breaker of the Forum" 23:21 M13 wow... -_- 23:22 M13 really 23:22 M13 ? 23:22 VanessaE no :) 23:22 GloopMaster omg 23:22 M13 o ok :P 23:22 GloopMaster you bwoke irt 23:22 GloopMaster derp. 23:22 VanessaE it just happened to crash while I was in the middle of doing some routine moderator work :-) 23:22 M13 only celeron can fix it right? 23:22 GloopMaster ya 23:23 M13 damn 23:23 VanessaE only he can get it fixed, but it's someone else who maintains the server that broke 23:23 M13 when will it be up again? 23:23 VanessaE when celeron55 gets someone to fix it :D 23:24 M13 That means we use my minetest forum 23:24 M13 http://minetestforums.weebly.com/#/ 23:24 VanessaE no 23:24 GloopMaster never. 23:24 M13 -_- 23:24 VanessaE until yours mirrors the official, it ain't gonna be good enough 23:24 RealBadAngel that means we use irc 23:24 M13 wow... 23:24 M13 that hurt :( 23:25 RealBadAngel go to the local store, buy a mirror ;) 23:25 GloopMaster XD 23:26 M13 <@VanessaE> until yours mirrors the official, it ain't gonna be good enough <---- was that nice? 23:26 M13 no! it was not DX 23:26 M13 lolz :P 23:26 RealBadAngel truth is never nice 23:26 M13 well cyah all later need to eat 23:27 RealBadAngel you just killed kids dreams VanessaE 23:27 RealBadAngel :) 23:27 GloopMaster lol 23:27 GloopMaster as if you dont do that enough already, RealBadAngel 23:27 VanessaE :P 23:27 RealBadAngel she started, i nailed 23:28 VanessaE don't blame me, I just say it as I see it 23:28 VanessaE (and if I don't see it I make it up :P) 23:30 RealBadAngel VanessaE, what do you think, a bit of lag when generating world is worth the marble caves? 23:30 VanessaE no 23:30 VanessaE nothing is worth adding too much lag imho 23:32 RealBadAngel so generate_ore is not good enough for it 23:35 VanessaE probably not, not if it's causing so much lag that you notice it 23:35 VanessaE especially on your rather well-powered computer 23:35 RealBadAngel its not cutting edge one 23:35 RealBadAngel rather old one 23:35 VanessaE as I recall it's at least as good as mine 23:36 RealBadAngel but its in fact one time lag 23:36 JangoFett154 so is anyone gonna fix forum or are you guys just gonna sit there? 23:36 khonkhortisan space " " non-breaking-space " " 23:36 RealBadAngel not lasting too long 23:36 khonkhortisan I'm just going to sit here 23:36 NakedFury we cant fix it 23:37 NakedFury so ill sit there 23:37 RealBadAngel ive noticed the lag once, when created new world 23:37 JangoFett154 why cant you fix it??? 23:37 RealBadAngel now when im flyin further its not laggy at all 23:38 RealBadAngel Oldcoder, you there? 23:41 khonkhortisan abm radius is a weakness of mesecons 23:42 khonkhortisan OldCoder, ^^ 23:43 VanessaE JangoFett154: none of us can fix the forums. 23:43 JangoFett154 VanessaE can i have download for your cool house that has the shingles on top? 23:43 VanessaE only celeron55 can. 23:43 VanessaE sure, sec. 23:44 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/VanessaE-Home-2.we 23:44 VanessaE I think that file is for worldedit 0.45, not sure if current WE can load it properly or not 23:44 VanessaE (someone mentioned a while back that it loads upside down in 0.5) 23:45 JangoFett154 wait VanesssaE that is list of ###s how to put it in? 23:45 VanessaE this is a worldedit file. 23:45 VanessaE load it with that progra, 23:45 VanessaE program/mod 23:45 JangoFett154 how to load it onto my computer? 23:46 VanessaE use worldedit. 23:46 JangoFett154 how to get it in worldedit 23:46 khonkhortisan /p set (punch) (punch) //load filename 23:46 VanessaE //load 23:46 VanessaE what he said. 23:46 JangoFett154 how to make it a file? 23:46 VanessaE download it 23:46 VanessaE it's already a file 23:47 JangoFett154 how?????? it only shows a list of numbers 23:47 VanessaE use your browser to download it 23:47 banlieue how i register in minetest? ^^ 23:47 VanessaE right click the link, save as 23:47 khonkhortisan haha the no-download-button content-is-on-page thing 23:47 VanessaE banlieue: you can't right now - the forums are down. 23:47 OldCoder Hi 23:47 khonkhortisan irc doesn't give me a download button and the page doesn't give me a link 23:47 OldCoder Did somebody say port 30000 was down as well? 23:47 banlieue thanks VanessaE 23:48 JangoFett154 it wont let me save as when right click the link 23:48 VanessaE JangoFett154: you could also open a terminal and wget the url 23:48 OldCoder Oh 23:48 OldCoder Forum has DB issue 23:48 OldCoder MySQL daemon is down 23:48 VanessaE OldCoder: not the first time. 23:48 OldCoder I C T Y 23:48 OldCoder Did somebody say port 30000 was down as well? 23:48 khonkhortisan make an example website and put the link there so you can download it :) 23:48 OldCoder Checking now 23:48 OldCoder khonkhortisan, hi; what? 23:49 khonkhortisan Vanessa's house 23:49 JangoFett154 can you just put it on like git or another download program?? i hate when downloads take you to a page like that -.- no offence 23:49 VanessaE JangoFett154: ok go here then 23:49 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/ 23:49 khonkhortisan that's better 23:49 VanessaE the file you want is near the top of the list. save link as or whatever your browser does. 23:49 khonkhortisan now there's a link to save 23:50 JangoFett154 it only gives me options of open open in new window etc. 23:50 skully_ hilo 23:50 VanessaE JangoFett154: you're going to have to learn how to download random URLs, I can't help you with that. 23:51 VanessaE in linux, I would do: wget http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/VanessaE-Home-2.we 23:51 VanessaE in windows, I have no idea. 23:51 khonkhortisan I have "Save Link As..." in my right-click window 23:51 khonkhortisan or you could ctrl-a-c, ctrl-v in a text editor, then save. 23:52 khonkhortisan or I could DCC (DDC?) it 23:52 VanessaE DCC. 23:53 JangoFett154 you should have just put it in git -.- 23:53 khonkhortisan I'm sending you the file 23:53 JangoFett154 how? 23:53 khonkhortisan through irc, unless you're on webchat or something like that. 23:54 JangoFett154 im at http://webchat.freenode.net/ 23:54 khonkhortisan then I'm not sending you it :( 23:54 JangoFett154 -.- VanessaE you should just put it in git 23:54 VanessaE no. 23:54 VanessaE learn to use your computer properly. 23:55 VanessaE sorry if that sounds mean 23:55 khonkhortisan it wouldn't commit well 23:55 VanessaE but I am very picky about thaqt. 23:55 VanessaE that* 23:55 JangoFett154 git works for windows and linux and what you have done works for..... i dont know who because i cant even get it 23:55 VanessaE a URL is a URL whether it points to a web page, a binary program file, or a text file 23:56 VanessaE any random browser can download a file. :-) 23:56 JangoFett154 then why cant i download it???? 23:57 VanessaE because your browser sucks :-) 23:57 khonkhortisan which browser are you using? 23:57 JangoFett154 you just said ANY RANDOM BROWSER! 23:57 VanessaE Firefox can "save link as..." 23:57 JangoFett154 internet explorer 23:57 khonkhortisan proof: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8095395199/in/photostream/lightbox/ 23:57 VanessaE chromium can "save link as..." also 23:58 VanessaE internet explorer isn't a random browser - it's a piece of crap ;) 23:58 JangoFett154 i dont have firefox or chrome 23:58 khonkhortisan yuck, it says to add as favorite to save a link in ie 23:58 VanessaE lame 23:58 JangoFett154 all computers come with internet explorer so if internet explorer cant download it then you use git! 23:58 banlieue i was thinking nobody use that crap 23:58 khonkhortisan http://www.ehow.com/how_6780721_save-links-internet-explorer-6.html 23:58 VanessaE WRONG! 23:58 khonkhortisan hahahaha 23:58 khonkhortisan hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 23:58 VanessaE all computers do NOT come with IE. 23:58 VanessaE mine did not 23:59 VanessaE nor did my husband' 23:59 VanessaE 's 23:59 VanessaE or my spare 23:59 khonkhortisan only ONE brand of computer comes with IE 23:59 VanessaE or my laptop. 23:59 JangoFett154 mine is brand new and it came with it 23:59 JangoFett154 it doesnt matter you should use git 23:59 khonkhortisan you bought it with windows pre-installed, therefore ie came with it 23:59 VanessaE and if you live east of the Atlantic (I don't), you get the choice of what browser to use the first time you turn the computer on.