Time Nick Message 00:00 khonkhortisan ? http://aethermod.wikia.com/wiki/Enchanted_Gravitite#Crafting 00:00 JangoFett154 RBA what was in most recent update? 00:00 NekoGloop Oh. 00:00 NekoGloop Never mind. 00:00 RealBadAngel flashlight, then some fixes 00:00 OldCoder update the home decor its messed up 00:00 OldCoder VanessaE, comment on this 00:00 Kacey can i please hae the site for it 00:00 VanessaE messed up how? 00:00 OldCoder skully_, ^ 00:01 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/zipball/master 00:01 NekoGloop But i think that means if you rightclick it is set to rise up. @ khonkhortisan 00:01 khonkhortisan must be nice to have a mod good enough to have its own wiki 00:01 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I will update Europe again now 00:02 RealBadAngel ok 00:02 Kacey ok got it 00:02 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: Well, it does add a whole new realm with its own goals to minecraft. 00:02 VanessaE skully_: what exactly is wrong with home decor? 00:02 NekoGloop The aether is more indepth than the nether. 00:03 OldCoder VanessaE, He PMd but has said no more 00:03 OldCoder *shrug* 00:03 VanessaE OldCoder: do you have any troubles with it? 00:04 * NekoGloop is hungwy :3 00:04 * OldCoder wonders if virtual tuna will work 00:04 OldCoder VanessaE, nope 00:04 * VanessaE offers NekoGloop some virtual chicken fried rice with egg rolls 00:04 OldCoder not presently 00:04 RealBadAngel hmmm i think we could add flowing water to the server 00:05 RealBadAngel Oldcoder, what do you think? 00:05 * NekoGloop takes the tuna :3 00:05 * NekoGloop bites into it ^w^ 00:05 OldCoder RealBadAngel, what about CPU? 00:05 OldCoder I like the idea 00:05 RealBadAngel that is what im gonna test 00:05 VanessaE Animations don't affect CPU load, but they do affect startup time 00:05 OldCoder Try it 00:05 VanessaE so flowing water should be fine 00:05 OldCoder Significantly? 00:05 RealBadAngel just for EU server by now 00:05 khonkhortisan animated water (even if it's someone else's code and textures) is needed in the default game. 00:05 RealBadAngel offline it works perfectly 00:05 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I think it would be quite interesting 00:05 VanessaE OldCoder: depends on the size of the textures used - by default, probably just short of noticable. 00:06 RealBadAngel lemme prepare the mod 00:06 RealBadAngel a few minutes needed 00:06 VanessaE khonkhortisan: can I talk you into doing me a favor? 00:06 OldCoder I will hold next EU update then 00:06 khonkhortisan maybe. 00:06 khonkhortisan doing what? 00:07 VanessaE khonkhortisan: can you go to my github repos for 512px texture, download the water texture there, and prepare compatible animations for the animated water mod? 00:07 VanessaE I'm too lazy :) 00:07 khonkhortisan how many frames? I made the default water move one pixel per frame. 00:07 VanessaE https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_512HD/default_water.jpg 00:07 VanessaE 16 frames is what I did with the lava 00:08 VanessaE so a 512px texture moves 32 px per frame 00:08 khonkhortisan okay. I'll see if the offset button can do it for me. 00:09 NekoGloop I like trolling the idiots in #minecraft xD 00:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel: by the way, you should change caouthouc to "raw latex" or something like that - that word you use (which is of French origin btw) just does not fit :-) 00:10 VanessaE khonkhortisan: thanks 00:10 NekoGloop Let's make jumping mod use technic's rubber for the trampolines. 00:10 NekoGloop Who's with me? 00:11 NekoGloop Also, rubber blocks. Very slightly bouncy. 00:11 VanessaE heh 00:11 NekoGloop And i also ramped up the bounciness of trampolines on my world :3 00:11 NekoGloop Setting 6 is terminal velocity :3 00:11 VanessaE NekoGloop: why? the max setting is already enough to kill :-) 00:12 VanessaE ah heh 00:12 VanessaE thought you edited it or something :-) 00:12 NekoGloop No i edited it 00:12 NekoGloop Setting 6 for you is setting 1 for me. 00:12 VanessaE heh 00:12 NekoGloop I also made trampolines completely cancel fall damage. 00:13 NekoGloop Because taking damage while jumping is stupid. 00:13 NekoGloop Also it returns the setting of the trampoline in a message to the puncher 00:13 khonkhortisan It doesn't seem to follow physics if you land in the same place you bounced from 00:13 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: I cant fix that, unfortunatly. 00:13 NekoGloop Brb 00:13 VanessaE RealBadAngel: for a flashlight, you should require one super glow glass in the top middle space. that makes more sense imho 00:14 VanessaE or at least, something that seems like it could be battery powered. 00:14 khonkhortisan oops I meant taking damage in that situation 00:14 RealBadAngel VanessaE, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_rubber 00:14 khonkhortisan *same place you bounced from and get hurt 00:15 VanessaE RealBadAngel: it is not referred to as that in English. Use . 00:15 VanessaE so there. 00:15 VanessaE :-) 00:17 RealBadAngel Noun 1. caoutchouc - an elastic material obtained from the latex sap of trees (especially trees of the genera Hevea and Ficus) that can be vulcanized and finished into a variety of productscaoutchouc - an elastic material obtained from the latex sap of trees (especially trees of the genera Hevea and Ficus) that can be vulcanized and finished into a variety of products 00:17 VanessaE " from the latex sap of trees" :-) 00:18 RealBadAngel even in polish theres a word kauczuk 00:18 VanessaE which is what you get when you tap the tree :-) 00:18 VanessaE so you're wrong. :P 00:18 VanessaE :-) 00:18 RealBadAngel heheh, ok i will think bout it :) 00:18 khonkhortisan Now if only I could find the "redo last operation" button. 00:19 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I have that set for shift-F (and shift-ctrl-F to show the last settings) 00:19 OldCoder 00:19 OldCoder VanessaE: 00:19 OldCoder i takes a while 00:19 OldCoder ok 00:19 OldCoder 225.9 12.5 -460.0 00:19 OldCoder world 30011 00:19 NakedFury RealBadAngel: thanks for the answer. the red screen doesnt fully cover the gui area so I guess you still dont have that screen done 00:19 VanessaE one sec. 00:19 OldCoder If you are curious go there and take a look 00:19 OldCoder I will give you whatever privs you need 00:20 VanessaE connecting 00:20 RealBadAngel OldCoder, testing the patch offline, hold on 00:20 VanessaE OldCoder: waiting for media now. 00:21 RealBadAngel OldCoder, http://realbadangel.pl/minetest_game.zip 00:22 RealBadAngel overwrite the original minetest_game with it 00:22 khonkhortisan ctrl+c h v, move, shift-ctrl+o, tab, 32, enter, repeat. 00:22 RealBadAngel in /games folder 00:22 OldCoder Hi 00:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, what is that for? 00:23 RealBadAngel animated water 00:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I will review shortly 00:23 RealBadAngel modified one lua file and two texture files 00:23 OldCoder Can you identify the three files please 00:23 RealBadAngel open the zip 00:23 OldCoder Wait 00:24 RealBadAngel its with the original folder tree 00:25 RealBadAngel NakedFury, i tried to make menu backgrounds, but with patch to the engine it wont work 00:25 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Downloading now 00:25 VanessaE OldCoder: ugh, such a slow pipe :( 00:25 VanessaE barely even 20 kB/sec today 00:25 OldCoder It is not the pipe 00:26 OldCoder We have been over this 00:26 RealBadAngel propably it took you longer to write downloading than the download itself ;) it was only a few kB :) 00:26 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Yes 00:26 VanessaE then why is redcrab's server so much faster? 00:26 OldCoder This is easy 00:26 VanessaE yours is AWS like theirs isn't it? 00:26 VanessaE (his) 00:26 OldCoder VanessaE, Yes 00:26 OldCoder Tell me more 00:26 OldCoder Does he have the music? 00:26 OldCoder Test the Ambience mod there 00:26 OldCoder I think it is the way the music is downloaded 00:27 VanessaE nope, he doesn't have any of that - but the download speed is also 3-4x what I get from your servers 00:27 RealBadAngel OldCoder, pls start just on EU with this patch 00:27 OldCoder RealBadAngel, wait 00:27 RealBadAngel we shall first test it in multiplayer 00:27 VanessaE there's gotta be some kind of network bottleneck then between me and yours 00:27 OldCoder RealBadAngel, this can be a mod in its own right. Animated Water. Can you prepare a simple init.lua for that purpose? 00:27 VanessaE of course it doens't help that minetest doesn't reuse resources from one server to another. 00:27 OldCoder VanessaE, yep 00:28 RealBadAngel oldcoder: no, its has to be default mod 00:29 VanessaE afaic, animated water should be in by default as lava and torches are now 00:30 khonkhortisan even if only falling water is animated. Lava makes more sense to be animated while staying still, that might be why water isn't animated yet. 00:30 RealBadAngel VanessaE, what do you think bout just "Latex" ? 00:31 RealBadAngel 1. (Chemistry / Elements & Compounds) a whitish milky fluid containing protein, starch, alkaloids, etc., that is produced by many plants. Latex from the rubber tree is used in the manufacture of rubber 00:31 VanessaE RealBadAngel: it needs an adjective e.g. "raw" or "unprocessed" 00:31 OldCoder RealBadAngel, O.K. 00:31 VanessaE something to suggest that it still needs to be cooked to be useful 00:31 OldCoder VanessaE, still waiting for 30011 ? 00:31 RealBadAngel again: "Latex from the rubber tree is used in the manufacture of rubber" 00:32 RealBadAngel fits perfectly 00:32 VanessaE I say that because "latex" also refers to some finished products like medical gloves, exotic clothing, etc. 00:32 OldCoder What is wrong with Home Decor? 00:32 OldCoder it is bluenblack green spoted all over and erverything is messed up 00:32 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ 00:32 RealBadAngel so Raw Latex? 00:32 VanessaE OldCoder: he needs to disable the texture atlas. 00:32 VanessaE RealBadAngel: yeah, works for me. 00:32 RealBadAngel ok, will change it then 00:32 OldCoder VanessaE, I have heard nothing good about that atlas. I'm removing it from the clients I build. 00:32 OldCoder VanessaE, Your GUI patch goes in BTW 00:32 VanessaE RealBadAngel: no need to change the craftitem name, just the description line and the forum post 00:33 VanessaE OldCoder: no need - it doesn't apply to servers 00:33 OldCoder RealBadAngel gave me your patch VanessaE 00:33 OldCoder I am building clients 00:33 VanessaE that patch is purelyclient-side 00:33 VanessaE oh sure 00:33 OldCoder I know 00:33 VanessaE sec. 00:33 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=47712#p47712 00:34 khonkhortisan firebug stopped working just as I tried to get the image out of flickr. 00:34 RealBadAngel OldCoder, windows build with it is already done by Sfan5 00:34 khonkhortisan and just as I pressed enter it started working again! 00:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I will be building clients myself 00:34 OldCoder VanessaE, ty for link 00:34 VanessaE OldCoder: and as shown in that post, there's an ubuntu build also :) 00:34 OldCoder Fine 00:34 OldCoder What is the link? 00:34 khonkhortisan VanessaE, How can I give you the image full-size? 00:35 VanessaE khonkhortisan: upload it to ompldr 00:35 OldCoder VanessaE, there may be a misunderstanding. I will be building clients regardless of existing ones 00:35 VanessaE OldCoder: oh ok 00:35 VanessaE well, the patch is the first link on that URL 00:35 OldCoder VanessaE, quick question. Is there a way to disable texture atlas without editing? A GUI command? 00:35 RealBadAngel OldCoder, have you put the animater water on server? 00:35 OldCoder VanessaE, ty 00:35 OldCoder RealBadAngel, No; been discussing this with VanessaE 00:35 OldCoder Proceeding 00:35 VanessaE OldCoder: no, but I think I will add a patch for that also. kinda stupid not to offer that in the GUI 00:36 khonkhortisan http://ompldr.org/tZnZ2ZA 00:36 RealBadAngel good idea with atlas 00:36 RealBadAngel theres plenty of room for settings 00:36 khonkhortisan well that didn't work. 00:36 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that's only 16px wide? 00:36 khonkhortisan the bbcode gave me the thumbnail 00:36 OldCoder VanessaE, agreed! 00:37 khonkhortisan http://ompldr.org/vZnZ2ZA 00:37 RealBadAngel Oldcoder: what is here to discuss bout it?? 00:37 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Done 00:37 khonkhortisan different link ^ 00:37 OldCoder Hence moot 00:37 VanessaE ah, better 00:38 VanessaE OldCoder: ah, it finally loaded 00:38 VanessaE teleport priv plz :-) 00:38 OldCoder VanessaE, sure 00:39 NekoGloop is there a not so crashy-like vines mod? 00:39 OldCoder VanessaE, didn't I op you in that world? 00:39 OldCoder VanessaE, that world is crowded, full of griefers, etc. I am opping you there. 00:39 VanessaE nope, you didn't :-) 00:39 RealBadAngel OldCoder, and the server restart? 00:39 OldCoder RealBadAngel, please hold 00:39 OldCoder VanessaE, spell your name 00:39 RealBadAngel ok 00:39 VanessaE VanessaEzekowitz 00:40 OldCoder VanessaE, You are now God. Or Goddess. 00:40 khonkhortisan *elevator music* 00:40 khonkhortisan *We appreciate your call* 00:40 khonkhortisan *Your buisness is very important to us* 00:40 NakedFury RBA do you plan to add advanced versions of some of the stations? like a double furnace, grinder, charger or toolbox? just asking. ohh and different cable types with posible weaker transmition of electricity(if this is possible)? 00:40 VanessaE woohoo! 00:40 khonkhortisan *Please stay on the line* 00:41 VanessaE ok, let's see..... /teleport -31000,-31000,-31000 ... //pos1 ... /teleport 31000,31000,31000 ... //pos2 ... //set air 00:41 RealBadAngel NakedFury, yes. wireing for next generation of machines is already here 00:41 VanessaE >:-D 00:41 khonkhortisan yuck, you'll only take out a column that way. 00:41 OldCoder VanessaE, :-) 00:41 NekoGloop VanessaE: that doesnt actually work. 00:41 khonkhortisan Too much space to complete 00:42 NekoGloop server would crash instantly. 00:42 khonkhortisan oh yeah, it wouldn't get to write it. 00:42 khonkhortisan right? 00:42 NekoGloop yup. 00:42 VanessaE NekoGloop: I was kidding and actually it doesn't crash, it just hangs like a bastard :-) 00:42 NakedFury I really like the mithril chest idea(dont have one yet) and the sorting of gold chests 00:42 NekoGloop well it hangs FOREVER 00:42 NekoGloop in essence? crashes. 00:42 khonkhortisan just a block is slow in human speed. 00:42 VanessaE OldCoder: I see nothing at all wrong with the graphics in the affected area. He needs to disable the texture atlas and try again 00:43 OldCoder mrtux, where was the mrtux sign relative to the room of chests? 00:43 OldCoder VanessaE, ty very much 00:43 mrtux dunno 00:43 OldCoder VanessaE, retain your Goddessy powers for this world 00:43 OldCoder mrtux, If you saw the room would you know? 00:43 VanessaE interesting textures btw 00:43 khonkhortisan on the open world where I built the road, wool in the inventory is invisible. But I need more memory anyway. 00:43 NekoGloop dokutest, correct? 00:43 hmmmmmm how would you guys say the cave generation is in minecraft right now? 00:44 NekoGloop hmmmmmm: cave generation in minecraft is.... huge. 00:44 khonkhortisan I like it when caves generate in cliffs 00:44 mrtux idk 00:44 khonkhortisan yeah I think the caves have gotten bigger while I've played. 00:44 hmmmmmm do you not like that? 00:44 VanessaE hmmmmmm: personally I like the caves the way they are now. 00:44 hmmmmmm that's a minor issue though 00:44 VanessaE in MT I mean 00:44 hmmmmmm yeah me too. 00:44 NekoGloop I made a base in a cave in minecraft that had literally over nine thousand furnaces in it 00:44 khonkhortisan I like big caves 00:44 NekoGloop hmmmmmm: mineCRAFT or mineTEST 00:45 NekoGloop :3 00:45 hmmmmmm whoops 00:45 hmmmmmm I meant to say minetest 00:45 NekoGloop yeah, minetest cavegen is awesome. 00:45 khonkhortisan haha I didn't notice 00:45 hmmmmmm minecraft uses a completely different method of generating caves, heh 00:45 NekoGloop minecraft makes more shafts than caves. 00:45 ecube So, how does minetest generate caves? 00:45 NekoGloop ecube: holes :3 00:45 ecube black holes 00:45 ecube trolol 00:46 hmmmmmm it's pretty complicated actually 00:46 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2S_e58l1S0&feature=plcp minetest can also generate huge caves 00:46 ecube i want to try making crevices 00:46 khonkhortisan fault lines! 00:47 khonkhortisan desert in a cave? Does it do that? 00:47 VanessaE speaking of shafts...real nice, I just started a new world, and spawned at the bottom of a >20 node tall by ~7 node diameter shaft....in the water 00:47 NakedFury I want bigger deserts. my pyramid barely fits in mine 00:47 VanessaE with the only way out being to build-jump my way out :-) 00:47 ecube Deserts can be huge 00:47 NekoGloop I want deserts with usefulness. 00:47 khonkhortisan if I get stuck in a pit in the desert there's always enough sand to get out 00:47 NekoGloop Oh wait, there's gloopores for that ;) 00:48 khonkhortisan life is easier out of the desert 00:48 hmmmmmm perlin noise will give the amount of caves in a given area, for each cave you have a random number of bruises, if you have over a certain number of caves in an area it gets coalesed into a large cave, and randomly shafts of random diameter are generated in random directions 00:48 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, i made there a desert and a lake 00:48 ecube yes, there are trees 00:48 hmmmmmm (when i say random i mean calculated by the LCG, not perlin) 00:48 RealBadAngel there were huge lava lakes before 00:48 khonkhortisan I like maze-like caves. 00:49 khonkhortisan If our caves get good enough, we can have an old civilization living in the underground cave system and have them attack the newbies on the surface 00:49 NakedFury it would also be interesting to have transition type blocks between Biomes or terrains. in case they are digged or mined just make it choose one type randomly 00:50 khonkhortisan I had a two 00:50 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: i had that in minecraft once. annoying as hell, considering that it was above a giant lava lake, and below a ocean. couldnt dig down, digging up flooded the mine. 00:50 khonkhortisan -node transition between sand and desert sand, but didn't have a good way of generating it. 00:50 VanessaE khonkhortisan: looks good, too bad minetest gets one of the four flowing directions wrong (not your fault) :-) 00:51 khonkhortisan That can be fixed by making the water appear to flow on both diagonals. 00:51 khonkhortisan You dig down through lava by dropping gravel in a 3x3 column, then digging the center. 00:51 NekoGloop khon: true. 00:51 VanessaE straight flow like it is now looks better, it's just a bug in one of the four directions only 00:51 NekoGloop had no gravel or sand at the time though,. 00:52 VanessaE affects lava too 00:54 khonkhortisan if you drop water source in a 1-node-wide trench, the water flows to a nice end. If you drop water source on flat ground, the diagonal corners are jagged because the water is made from squares instead of triangles. 00:54 VanessaE khonkhortisan: will this mod also handle animated water sources? 00:54 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: this is minetest. not real life. get over it. 00:55 khonkhortisan Then water should stop the same way when flowing along an axis, with a sudden drop. 00:55 NekoGloop oh just stop whinin 00:56 khonkhortisan the formspec allows transparent images but makes them black when they're also buttons! 00:56 NakedFury is there a LUA fix for water to not stop you so damn fast when you fall on it? 00:56 NekoGloop NakedFury: nope, that's minetest. 00:56 khonkhortisan you'd have to disable water slowing you down completely, and I think that's done in c++ 00:56 ecube I think speed things for liquids are handled by the code 00:57 ecube darn it, he beat me to it 00:57 NekoGloop so did i :3 00:57 khonkhortisan :) 00:57 * VanessaE pokes khonkhortisan 00:57 * NekoGloop pokes VanessaE 00:57 * ecube pokes NekoGloop 00:57 * RealBadAngel pokes a pokemon 00:58 * NekoGloop pokes a mobs:dirt_monster 00:58 * khonkhortisan reacts with a slight fizzle 00:58 VanessaE careful, you'll piss it off ;) 00:59 * NekoGloop smacks it with a gloopblocks:sword_evil 00:59 VanessaE khonkhortisan: will this mod also handle animated water sources? (I'll do a mild ripple effect, like I did with lava but a bit different) 00:59 RealBadAngel Oldcoder, can you apply this? im goin to work soon and wanted to test it before 00:59 NekoGloop Die, foul beast! :D 00:59 VanessaE lol 00:59 * ecube pokes NekoGloop's eye... ouch, that looked like it hurt. 00:59 * NekoGloop claws ecube's face 3:< 01:00 khonkhortisan It could handle animated sources, I just need an image and to redefine the source too. 01:01 VanessaE khonkhortisan: ok. you should do that then, and I will create an appropriate 512px texture for it. 01:01 khonkhortisan I could start with one that is default for 8 frames, and offset one pixel for the other 8 frames for a start. 01:02 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Yes 01:02 OldCoder I will in minutes 01:02 VanessaE that would work I figure 01:03 NekoGloop all right, if you people want more gloopores, then i need ideas. :P 01:03 NakedFury first do stuff with them 01:03 NekoGloop fine fine fine 01:04 NakedFury technic cables and or mesecon type cables 01:04 NekoGloop then give me ideas for that. 01:04 RealBadAngel if you want animated water lookin nice: realbadangel.pl/animater_water_128x.zip 01:04 NekoGloop uh, RealBadAngel entirely detests gloopores, so i dont think technic cables are happening. 01:04 RealBadAngel oh made a typo 01:04 NakedFury you can even do a Technic-Gloop addon type of mod 01:04 NekoGloop NakedFury: i would if my coding skills werent shit. 01:05 OldCoder RealBadAngel, what resolution is the version I have? 01:05 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/animated_water_128x.zip 01:05 RealBadAngel default, 16x 01:06 RealBadAngel ive made it for PilzAdam's fork of minetest_game 01:06 NakedFury gloopores chests, tubes, cables (For mesecon or technic). in fact make stuff that those 2 mods can use. sort of optional is the user wants more thingies 01:06 NekoGloop again, RealBadAngel hates gloopores for some reason unknown to me. 01:06 RealBadAngel hehe 01:06 NekoGloop so most i could possibly do is mesecons. 01:06 RealBadAngel i dont hate it really 01:06 NekoGloop yes you do 01:06 NakedFury omg do you really need his approval??? 01:07 NekoGloop you are just trying not to look like an asshole. 01:07 RealBadAngel heh 01:07 VanessaE gloopores sucks, etc. 01:08 VanessaE (actually I think it's a nice idea) 01:08 NakedFury RBA you dont mind add ons type mods made by others for technic? 01:08 RealBadAngel no, it has excelent idea of desert ores 01:08 NekoGloop glowing ores, desert ores, edible ores. 01:08 NekoGloop a couple of extra tools. 01:08 NekoGloop NakedFury: the problem is the cables. 01:08 NekoGloop I cant do those externally 01:08 RealBadAngel so make some use of it and contribute to technic 01:09 RealBadAngel so we can join gloopores into technic in a logic way 01:09 NekoGloop but pretty much the whole point of gloopores is fantasy items. 01:10 NakedFury mithril is fantasy too 01:10 NekoGloop not everyone wants to be limited to what exists irl 01:10 NekoGloop NakedFury: and guess how many uses that has. Oh right. None. 01:11 NakedFury as many as mese 01:11 NakedFury well more 01:11 RealBadAngel mithril? has a few in technic 01:11 RealBadAngel solar panels, mithril chests 01:11 NekoGloop mithril has a single use in technic 01:11 NekoGloop since mithril chests are a waste of materials. 01:11 NakedFury they are network type chests 01:11 NekoGloop but do they work? 01:12 NekoGloop no. 01:12 RealBadAngel they will be 01:12 NekoGloop they dont. 01:12 NekoGloop speaking of linking, work on the damn pipes. 01:12 RealBadAngel still lookin for a good solution to do that 01:12 NakedFury those chests work as if they were from a mmorpg 01:12 NakedFury which is cool 01:13 NekoGloop mmorpg == minetest with the right mods. 01:13 NakedFury they work because they have an army of working gnomes carrying resources continually from one chest to another 01:14 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down for animated water 01:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ^ 01:14 VanessaE OldCoder: wait 01:14 RealBadAngel yes? 01:14 OldCoder VanessaE, ? 01:14 NakedFury what is the page for that RBA? 01:14 VanessaE OldCoder: wait for khonkhortisan to do animated water *sources* also 01:14 OldCoder VanessaE, O.K. 01:14 RealBadAngel why EU is always the last one? :) 01:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ^ 01:14 * VanessaE is working on a proper image for 512px HDX 01:14 NakedFury ohh its khonkortisan mod? 01:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel, to protect EU! 01:15 RealBadAngel VanessaE, the patch already contains animated water flowing and sources dammit 01:15 RealBadAngel and the textures 01:15 VanessaE oh. 01:15 VanessaE ok fine, commit it then :) 01:15 RealBadAngel i did 2 hrs ago.... 01:15 OldCoder I have already started helping somebody else who has waited 01:15 NekoGloop I just realized, is the Gambit in #minecraft the one from minetest forums? 01:15 RealBadAngel and waitin to test it 01:15 OldCoder I won't be free for 30 minutes 01:16 OldCoder RealBadAngel, wait 01:16 * OldCoder sighs 01:16 VanessaE NekoGloop: ask him :) 01:16 NekoGloop lol 01:16 NekoGloop I suck at starting intelligent conversation. 01:16 NekoGloop So you ask him :3 01:16 VanessaE RealBadAngel: wait a sec, WHAT patch? 01:17 * VanessaE looks at animated fluids github. nothing new since 3 months ago 01:17 RealBadAngel realbadangel.pl/minetest_game.zip 01:17 NakedFury vanessa do they even need a patch? 01:18 RealBadAngel just overwrite your minetest_game with it to get animated water 01:18 VanessaE NakedFury: they do if he didn't specify that water sources could take on an animated image 01:18 NakedFury ohh well yeah got a point in that 01:18 NakedFury I dont think he did 01:18 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down for animated water 01:19 NakedFury fluid = minetest.registered_nodes['default:'..name..'_flowing'] 01:19 NakedFury he didnt I think 01:19 OldCoder Should I stop? 01:19 RealBadAngel what the hell are you talkin about? 01:19 OldCoder Please decide quickly 01:19 RealBadAngel the animated water is done by pilzadam weeks ago 01:19 RealBadAngel and i did the textures for it 01:19 NakedFury dammit which animated water are we talking about here? 01:20 RealBadAngel and you talkin if its possible 01:20 VanessaE khonkhortisan's. 01:20 NakedFury khonkortisan's or whos? 01:20 OldCoder Worlds going down 01:20 RealBadAngel realbadangel.pl/minetest_game.zip 01:20 VanessaE or I am anyway 01:20 RealBadAngel download the damn patch and test 01:20 NekoGloop ok, that is NOT the same gamibt ;) 01:20 NekoGloop gambit* 01:20 RealBadAngel it works with provided 16x textures 01:20 NakedFury I cant open those links from hexchat 01:20 RealBadAngel and i have ready 128x textures for it 01:21 RealBadAngel better, watch the video with it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p35e3ZCdDVU&feature=plcp 01:22 OldCoder 01:22 NakedFury I already had a 0.4.2 animated water mod 01:22 OldCoder U.S. worlds starting 01:22 NakedFury I just used a shorter name 01:22 VanessaE well sure enough. 01:22 OldCoder And somebody tell me 01:22 OldCoder Which animated water to use?! 01:22 OldCoder RealBadAngel, yours is in the U.S. worlds 01:22 OldCoder And somebody tell me 01:22 OldCoder Which animated water to use?! 01:22 OldCoder 01:23 NakedFury realbadangel.pl/minetest_game.zip 01:23 VanessaE same here, someone tell me what filename to save this animated water source under? 01:23 NakedFury that one 01:23 VanessaE (I was gonna use default_water_source_animated.ext) 01:23 NakedFury vanessa: default_water_source_animated and default_water_flowing_animated 01:23 VanessaE whoa whoa whoa whoa 01:24 VanessaE ok 01:24 NekoGloop Meow. :3 01:24 VanessaE (ignore that last like) 01:24 NekoGloop Alright, we have evil blocks... what aboue "pure" blocks? 01:24 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoMynx6xXkU&feature=context-cha 01:25 RealBadAngel here is video with 128x animated water 01:25 OldCoder Does RealBadAngel animated water work? 01:25 RealBadAngel videos with it is not a proof? 01:26 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I mean in the wild 01:26 OldCoder Go try it 01:26 OldCoder You asked for testing 01:26 OldCoder It is in all the U.S. worlds now 01:26 OldCoder Well most of them 01:26 VanessaE ok, can someone please just separate out animated water from everything else and make it a separate, standalone mod? 01:26 RealBadAngel i asked for EU first, since i have better connection to it 01:26 VanessaE it makes it difficult to test stock-like configs otherwise 01:27 RealBadAngel but ok 01:27 OldCoder ok, can someone please just separate out animated water from everything else and make it a separate, standalone mod? 01:27 OldCoder He said it needs to be default 01:28 OldCoder Modifies init.lua 01:28 VanessaE no, he means it's somethign that should be included in default. 01:28 RealBadAngel because if modifies default nodes 01:28 VanessaE it is possible to overwrite a default mod/node without modifying default/init.lua 01:28 VanessaE I did that with torches before they were integrated. 01:28 RealBadAngel like default:water_flowing and default:water_source 01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, he means init.lua 01:28 VanessaE OldCoder: then he's doing it wrong :-) 01:29 RealBadAngel i dont really understand you 01:29 VanessaE minetest.register_node( ... ":default:water_source" ... ) 01:29 VanessaE with a leading colon 01:29 VanessaE redefines the water source node. 01:30 RealBadAngel ok, i will make a mod out of it if it HAS to be a mod 01:30 RealBadAngel btw on US server im stuck 01:30 RealBadAngel and cannot move 01:31 RealBadAngel im in a middle of not loaded blocks 01:31 RealBadAngel and cant move nowhere 01:31 RealBadAngel but can see the water which looks amazing 01:33 RealBadAngel im too lagged to play on US servers 01:33 RealBadAngel so PLEASE update EU 01:33 OldCoder RealBadAngel, make a mod out of it first please 01:33 RealBadAngel gimme 5 minutes then 01:34 NakedFury was there a api method that allowed you to add new stuff to existing stuff from other mods? 01:34 NakedFury IM searching using cornet notes api 01:34 NakedFury docs 01:39 RealBadAngel OldCoder, realbadangel.pl/animated_water.zip 01:39 RealBadAngel here you go 01:39 RealBadAngel standalone mod 01:40 OldCoder Fine 01:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I am putting that on EU now 01:45 RealBadAngel thanks 01:46 OldCoder error 404 01:46 OldCoder http://realbadangel.pl/animated_water.zip 01:46 OldCoder RealBadAngel, that says Error 404 01:46 RealBadAngel a sec 01:47 RealBadAngel try now 01:47 RealBadAngel made a typo again 01:48 OldCoder Got it 01:49 OldCoder Restarting EU 01:49 NakedFury animated waters are awesome 01:50 RealBadAngel OldCoder, ok 01:50 OldCoder It works? 01:50 OldCoder I should use this one? 01:50 OldCoder anybody else want to comment? 01:52 RealBadAngel of course it works 01:52 OldCoder anybody else want to comment? 01:52 RealBadAngel log in and see for yourself 01:52 OldCoder RealBadAngel, If it was "of course" why did you want to test it? :P 01:52 RealBadAngel on multiplayer 01:52 RealBadAngel offline i do play with this modification for weeks already 01:53 RealBadAngel im now over an ocean, animated. still 60fps 01:54 RealBadAngel with enabled full view range still 60fps 01:54 RealBadAngel works perfectly 01:54 NakedFury yeah no performance hit here 01:54 OldCoder Good 01:54 OldCoder Adding to official set 01:54 OldCoder And this is much better than patching init.lua 01:57 RealBadAngel youre right 01:58 RealBadAngel well, at least water looks like water on the server 02:00 RealBadAngel lets check now with filters 02:05 RealBadAngel updated Haven texture pack with animated water textures too 02:10 NakedFury animated textures are one thing easy to bring from MC texture packs 02:10 NakedFury they are separated and HUGE so a rename is all I do 02:10 RealBadAngel from old ones 02:11 RealBadAngel new texture packs dont have such files 02:11 RealBadAngel was suprised lately, no fire water and lava animations in this style any longer 02:12 NakedFury they are separate now 02:12 NakedFury 2 fires animations too 02:12 RealBadAngel they WERE separate files 02:13 RealBadAngel check up to date texture packs 02:13 NakedFury I am using 1.3.2 texture packs are the new ones from snapshots united? 02:14 RealBadAngel i tested a few and those files are gone 02:15 NakedFury ugh damn not good 02:15 NakedFury I like how they are separated 02:16 NakedFury textures for all sizes or just 16x? 02:18 RealBadAngel http://adf.ly/564553/spbdc-128 02:18 RealBadAngel check for example Sphax PureBDcraft pack 02:18 RealBadAngel for 1.4.x 02:18 NakedFury checking fast 02:19 NakedFury damn. comparing both games I must say I prefer MineTests method for texturing to Minecrafts 02:20 RealBadAngel easier to do textures and handle them 02:21 * OldCoder laughs 02:21 OldCoder Today was a busy MT day 02:21 RealBadAngel yeah, rly 02:21 RealBadAngel wasnt sleepin whole night 02:21 OldCoder I'm listing the mods I went through. Quite a lot. 02:21 RealBadAngel and in an hour goin to work 02:21 OldCoder Ah 02:21 OldCoder Good luck 02:21 RealBadAngel i will need it lol 02:24 NakedFury what was the screenshot button? 02:25 khonkhortisan f12 02:26 NakedFury thanks 02:26 NakedFury RealBadAngel: screenshot of my work areas coming. I am using only stations. not into tubes and heavy stuff yet 02:26 NakedFury http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/z9kr550hh 02:27 NakedFury same room: http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/7yiubsjo 02:27 OldCoder Muadtralk, hello 02:27 NakedFury under that room: http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/bnwperkx_ 02:27 OldCoder Muadtralk, lots of news today 02:28 Muadtralk oh really? 02:28 OldCoder Muadtralk: 02:28 OldCoder 1. I am now hosting the Calinou world 02:28 OldCoder 2. Quite a few mods added 02:28 OldCoder 3. New music 02:28 OldCoder 4. Animated Water mod 02:28 OldCoder 5. Other stuff 02:28 OldCoder Done 02:28 OldCoder 02:29 NakedFury now this is my first work station area: http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/qgzy-677o http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/carfn5rrv under it: http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/r72knpyte 02:37 VanessaE haha 02:37 khonkhortisan :) 02:37 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I've gotten used to people poo-poo'ing DCC. 02:37 ecube i love trolling people by making them think they're admin 02:37 VanessaE so it never occurred to me :-) 02:37 zilvarael Hey guys I was working on this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jcd02qq1dx2vx9o/Somelanguage.txt 02:38 khonkhortisan poo-poo'ing for speed or security? Or just not being easy to use? 02:38 VanessaE no one's ever actually said why, I presume because it's just "not cool" or something. 02:39 khonkhortisan "and it's and ache" -> "and it's an ache" 02:41 NakedFury RealBadAngel: the animated textures are still separated from the terrain.png. they are just placed in a new folder 02:42 RealBadAngel just seen pictures, it looks nice 02:42 NakedFury im hoping to later increase the size of my work areas so I have a shit ton of tubes going all over the place 02:43 NakedFury I need different kind of them to do that. I dont like them connecting too much 02:43 NakedFury takes the magic out of my tube dream 02:43 RealBadAngel that would be done by use coloured ones 02:43 RealBadAngel so they wont connect 02:43 NakedFury future plans or in progress? 02:44 RealBadAngel in progress 02:44 RealBadAngel thats for i made golds chest able to mark them with colours 02:44 NakedFury limited colors or using the dyes of the default game which are like 12 or something or going insane with vanessa's dyes? 02:45 RealBadAngel use default dye on gold chest 02:45 RealBadAngel punch the chest with it 02:45 khonkhortisan Gimp's rippling filter adds red on the top of a blue image 02:49 NakedFury dammit, time to make a laser gun. been leaving that to off far too long 02:49 anunnaki hmmm 02:49 anunnaki need to knwo the name and mod of some of the doors 02:49 anunnaki is it all part of the doors mod? 02:50 khonkhortisan what's the opposite of /giveme? 02:50 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ has been updated. Worlds list is revised. The news section on a linked page discusses today's changes. 02:50 khonkhortisan /takeme? 02:50 OldCoder I spent about 12 hours on MT today. Probably can't do that every day. 02:50 anunnaki lol i'm trying to give myself osme bad ass doors right now 02:50 anunnaki but i'm failing miserably 02:50 anunnaki all i can do is a wood dor 02:50 anunnaki door* 02:52 khonkhortisan Does ~/.minetest/cache/ go into the memory every time I load minetest? 02:57 ecube looks like it 02:59 NakedFury The laser is not working 02:59 NakedFury I shoot and get the blocks but the game doesnt remove them? 02:59 khonkhortisan So it's a cloning laser. 03:00 NakedFury right now yes 03:00 khonkhortisan What are you using to get the node? 03:00 NakedFury its RealBadAngel technic laser gun 03:00 NakedFury mining gun 03:02 NakedFury Mining laser: shoot once and you get the blocks but they dont go away. shoot twice and it repeats. right now its duping items 03:02 NakedFury wait it worked now 03:02 NakedFury just didnt break first block which is weird 03:04 RealBadAngel NakedFury, i know that glitch, tryin to do somethin with it 03:04 NakedFury ok thought you didnt know so I was reporting it 03:05 khonkhortisan oh I thought that was a poem. Now I recognize the song. 03:06 RealBadAngel NakedFury, have you tried already the flashlight? 03:06 khonkhortisan ♪ language that I used to know ♫ 03:07 NakedFury not yet. will do it on my next trip to recharge tools 03:08 RealBadAngel what it differs it from walkin_light is it doesnt have to be wielded to work, have to be just on hotbar 03:09 khonkhortisan Couldn't you whack something with it to turn it on and off and still have it work anywhere in the inventory? 03:09 RealBadAngel i could propably 03:09 RealBadAngel but this system is also good 03:10 RealBadAngel while on hotbar it works and usues power 03:17 NakedFury RealBadAngel: update: laser is "cutting" in this pattern: 1= for blocks remaining X for spaces: 1x1x1x1x1x1x1etc 03:18 RealBadAngel best to see it is to use laser under water 03:19 RealBadAngel this is multiplayer issue and lags 03:19 RealBadAngel in singleplayer it works ok 03:19 NakedFury yes I used it 03:20 khonkhortisan I ran into a problem. I have a function (expand_cube) that places a node, then sets its meta (the center pos of the cube). The node's on_construct (which calls get_axesoff) checks the same meta, but does it before it's set, giving me a nil variable. 03:20 khonkhortisan I guess I'll have to move on_construct to a separate function. 03:22 RealBadAngel provide extra variable 03:22 RealBadAngel like cube_deployed = true/false 03:22 RealBadAngel set it by the init function 03:23 RealBadAngel and the other one let it check if its true 03:23 khonkhortisan Then i'd have to call on_construct until the meta gets set. 03:23 ecube w 3 03:23 RealBadAngel or check its nil 03:23 RealBadAngel define variable in node definition 03:24 RealBadAngel when just put its gonna be nil, until set 03:32 NakedFury RealBadAngel: another update report: possibility of tool recharger, not the battery, cloning tools 03:32 NakedFury 2 time now have a mese pick been cloned 03:32 NakedFury trying to duplicate the process 03:33 RealBadAngel thats strange 03:33 NakedFury yes. always happens when Im not watching 03:33 NakedFury and I dont waste mese 03:34 NakedFury or making extra picks 03:34 RealBadAngel thats almost impossible, dont know why it happens 03:34 RealBadAngel its just an inventory like the others 03:36 RealBadAngel how could that happen if it has just one slot 03:36 RealBadAngel and pickaxe is not stackable?? 03:36 NakedFury well since im playing on a server not sure if its really technic or just some server stuff bug 03:37 RealBadAngel it hapens when you remove tool from tool workshop and move it to the inventory? 03:38 NakedFury I think so. it is never fully recharged 03:39 RealBadAngel hmmm i think i might know the reason 03:39 RealBadAngel youre movin it, while rechargin routine works 03:39 RealBadAngel and thanks to lags it recharges it and put it back into machine while the original one is moved already 03:40 NakedFury will try that next time and tell you 03:41 RealBadAngel but this way you should be able to clone stuff in furnaces too 03:41 RealBadAngel default ones 03:42 RealBadAngel will think bout it later 03:46 RealBadAngel ok, goin offline, cya later 03:55 VanessaE sigh, sometimes I really hate GIMP. 03:57 khonkhortisan I don't 03:58 VanessaE sometimes its filters are just barely thought out, just enough to call them half-assed 04:01 VanessaE I've been trying, all this time, to get a nice subtle, smooth ripple effect into the water, like it's being blown very lightly by wind, but no matter what I do everything's choppy and ugly :( 04:01 anunnaki how do i craft dual doors that open oppositte ways 04:01 anunnaki still a noob lol 04:01 anunnaki sorry 04:01 anunnaki actually 04:01 anunnaki i'd rather just /giveme them 04:01 anunnaki lol 04:02 anunnaki anyone know what mod they are and the name of them? 04:02 VanessaE if you mean homedecor's doors, craft one and put it back in the crafting grid 04:02 anunnaki ah, ok 04:03 anunnaki oh its your mod :P 04:03 anunnaki XD 04:03 VanessaE indeed :-) 04:03 VanessaE though there's a couple of other mods that add doors which behave the same way 04:08 anunnaki so hmm 04:08 anunnaki would it be /giveme homedecor:door_glass 04:08 anunnaki ? 04:08 VanessaE just use the crative inventory :-) 04:08 anunnaki XD 04:08 anunnaki i figured it out 04:09 anunnaki :P 04:09 anunnaki just had to look at yoru code on github 04:09 VanessaE it'd be homedecor:door_xxx_bottom_yyy I think is how I did it. xxx = the type of door e.g. glass or wood_plain, yyy= left or right 04:09 anunnaki oh wow i could easily add mods if this is the code 04:09 anunnaki XD 04:09 VanessaE yup, modding is quite easy 04:09 khonkhortisan The ripple works if your image is larger 04:11 VanessaE yeah but the problem with the ripple plugin is I can only set the amplitude of the wave. I can't set the frequency or rotation. 04:13 khonkhortisan or coordinate system 04:14 VanessaE that might be helpful to come, but even just being able to set the frequency would be an immense help 04:14 VanessaE some* 04:17 VanessaE ok finally got something usable 04:18 VanessaE can you update your github repos to allow for animated water source so I can make this official? 04:19 VanessaE and split the water off into a separate mod? 04:19 VanessaE (since animated lava is default these days) 04:29 * VanessaE pokes at khonkhortisan 04:31 CTMN OldCoder r u still online? 04:32 OldCoder Hi 04:32 OldCoder CTMN, Yes 04:32 OldCoder PM 04:32 CTMN O.O 04:32 OldCoder O.O ? 04:32 NakedFury god its 12:32 am here and im super duper hungry! 04:32 OldCoder So eat 04:32 OldCoder Food 04:32 CTMN I was sleeping 04:32 * VanessaE offers NakedFury some popcorn 04:32 OldCoder CTMN, O.K. 04:33 CTMN It was night, and now its morning 04:33 CTMN And ur still online 04:33 NakedFury ohh main my 6 favorite food. vanessaE thats so cruel. I ran out of them last month 04:33 OldCoder CTMN, I have been MTg for about 16 hours now 04:33 VanessaE sowwy 04:33 NakedFury I even bought a mini popcorn maker 04:33 OldCoder In fact U.S. worlds going down shortly 04:34 CTMN And I see ur not ready? 04:34 CTMN With 30001 04:35 NakedFury Pizaa, Hamburgers, Hotdogs, meat, chicken, and popcorn. 04:35 NakedFury pizza 04:35 VanessaE PIZZA!!!!! 04:35 VanessaE :-) 04:36 khonkhortisan You need white cheddar popcorn. 04:36 NakedFury I havea weakness for it. I dont take it if it has an ingredient that I absolutely dont like but any other way I RAVAGE them. yes ravage not eat. 04:36 khonkhortisan I got distracted on rubik's cube formspecs. 04:37 VanessaE mmm white cheddar 04:37 NakedFury ohhh this entire conversation just got me hungrier 04:37 NakedFury eat time 04:37 VanessaE khonkhortisan: did you see my comment above? 04:38 khonkhortisan Yeah, I'll take lava out. 04:38 VanessaE ok 04:38 VanessaE thought I was being ignored again :-) 04:38 VanessaE oh also 04:39 VanessaE slow the flowing water down a bit (increase the loop time) 04:39 khonkhortisan I think I tried to make it match the speed that the water_flowing nodes actually move. 04:40 khonkhortisan what would I call a variable that goes between 'source' and 'flowing' if I can't use the word "type"? 04:41 VanessaE um.. 04:41 VanessaE water_type :-) 04:41 khonkhortisan I'll go with fluid_type 04:41 VanessaE that works 04:42 NakedFury it does need some slowing. still water looks fast. 04:42 khonkhortisan I don't have moving still water yet. 04:42 khonkhortisan Neither does default 04:42 VanessaE I have an animation prepared for HDX for the animated water source 04:44 khonkhortisan "fluid" doesn't look like a word anymore after just a minute of looking at my code 04:44 VanessaE heh 04:45 khonkhortisan looks like it should be pronounced fliud 04:48 khonkhortisan aspect_w/h lets you make a square picture be an animation 04:49 VanessaE I just leave those set to 16, they don't seem to affect big textures 04:50 khonkhortisan The first frame could be the first row of pixels: aspect_w = 16, aspect_h = 1 04:50 VanessaE yup I guess that's how it's intended 05:11 OldCoder U.S. worlds restarted 05:17 bulletrulz hi 05:17 VanessaE hi 05:17 bulletrulz hows it going 05:17 khonkhortisan I know your first name 05:17 VanessaE not too bad 05:18 bulletrulz mine? 05:18 khonkhortisan yeah, before you changed it to bulletrulz when you just joined 05:18 bulletrulz oh Brandon lol 05:18 khonkhortisan and between the ~ and the @ on your ip 05:18 bulletrulz everyone knows it 05:19 khonkhortisan :) 05:19 khonkhortisan People would know mine if they knew where to look 05:20 VanessaE khonkhortisan: it's interesting - I have a cousin by the same name as you 05:20 bulletrulz i STILL DONT KNOW VanessaE Though!!!! 05:20 khonkhortisan I have a neice by the same name as you 05:20 bulletrulz me? 05:20 khonkhortisan no Vanessa 05:20 VanessaE bulletrulz: yes you do. it's Vanessa. 05:21 * VanessaE is not creative enough with nicknames to have picked a good one :-) 05:21 bulletrulz WHAT HER NAME IS Vanessa I did not that XD 05:21 OldCoder I am Robert 05:21 NakedFury I only know 1 Vanessa and its you 05:21 * khonkhortisan is glad he picked a good one 05:21 bulletrulz hi Bob 05:21 OldCoder I use the more formal name these days 05:21 VanessaE NakedFury: good, because there can only be one of me :-) 05:21 khonkhortisan She's my third. 05:22 khonkhortisan How much should the water speed be multiplied by? 05:23 khonkhortisan 0.5? 0.25? 05:23 bulletrulz i OldCoder 05:23 VanessaE I'd drop it to maybe 60% of the current speed 05:23 NakedFury dont know what they mean. maybe test each speed out 05:23 VanessaE (half as fast seems like it'd be too slow, so a bit above that) 05:23 khonkhortisan The current speeed is the viscosity of the fluid. 05:24 OldCoder How will this work with RBA mod? 05:24 VanessaE multiply the value by 1.6 05:24 khonkhortisan it'll be faster then? 05:24 khonkhortisan no slower. 05:24 VanessaE khonkhortisan: no, that's the length of the animation time - larger = slower framerate 05:24 VanessaE (assuming the number of frames doesn't change) 05:25 bulletrulz lol HOW COME minetest is so slow 05:26 VanessaE khonkhortisan: this method you've used to condense the water animation - how does it work? 05:27 VanessaE oh wait, you didn't condense it 05:27 VanessaE just two frames I guess 05:27 khonkhortisan ? length = previous_value * multiplier 05:28 VanessaE nono, the texture itself, it's only 16x32 px 05:28 khonkhortisan oh. You saw my commit? 05:28 VanessaE *nod* 05:28 khonkhortisan Yeah, one-pixel animation 05:28 khonkhortisan Ugly, but it gives texture packs animated water through this mod. 05:28 VanessaE no prob 05:28 khonkhortisan Turns out water_source doesn't have a viscosity. 05:28 VanessaE as long as I can still use the normal vertical strip method :-) 05:29 NakedFury should I change the info on the mod depending on texture size? 05:30 VanessaE ? 05:30 NakedFury well: ...row of pixels: aspect_w = 16, aspect_h = 1 05:30 NakedFury 32x packs too aspect_w = 32? 05:30 VanessaE NakedFury: not necessary 05:30 khonkhortisan I'm not using that. If your frames are square you can just use an aspect of 16. 05:30 VanessaE it's an aspect ratio, so any texture that fits the same aspect will do. 05:30 OldCoder I am resting 05:30 NakedFury ok ok 05:30 khonkhortisan As long as w and h are equal. 05:32 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I'll tell you though, I sure wish the game could accept stacks of layers e.g. a gimp XCF file or animated GIF or some other equivalent 05:32 NakedFury why? 05:32 VanessaE it would make it just trivial to make nice high quality animations with big textures 05:32 bulletrulz VanessaE, how does it feel to be a mod/ 05:32 bulletrulz ? 05:32 VanessaE because irrlicht can't load a file that's greater than 16384 pixels tall 05:33 NakedFury ohh 05:33 khonkhortisan You'd only have to tell it whether it was an animation or not, and the speed. 05:33 VanessaE bulletrulz: *shrug* 05:33 bulletrulz MiJyn, 05:33 NakedFury 16384 is a lot of pixels 05:33 bulletrulz hi 05:33 VanessaE NakedFury: yeah but it's only 32 frames at 512px. 05:33 NakedFury well 512x is a lot too 05:33 NakedFury but yeah I get the point 05:33 khonkhortisan I just calculated it, and turned to this window to see you already said that. 05:33 VanessaE if I could get away with 64 frames or more for my animations, you can bet I'd do it :-) 05:34 khonkhortisan Double-define your nodes and have them switch on a timer 05:34 NakedFury cant you do a hacky hacky code that loads a new texture set AFTER the current one run its time? 05:34 VanessaE heh 05:34 VanessaE in theory, sure 05:34 VanessaE but good luck getting it to stay in sync 05:34 NakedFury sucky way to do it but... 05:34 khonkhortisan one texture per node, unfortunately. 05:34 khonkhortisan Well, one set. 05:34 NakedFury ohh sync sucks sometimes 05:35 khonkhortisan one texture per face 05:35 khonkhortisan it'll sync every node change 05:35 NakedFury lava isnt in sync 05:35 khonkhortisan oh. animated water source isn't either. 05:35 VanessaE there's a config file option for that 05:36 VanessaE by default, they don't sync from one mapblock to the next 05:36 khonkhortisan Remember what it's called? 05:37 VanessaE # Whether node texture animations should be desynchronized per MapBlock 05:37 VanessaE #desynchronize_mapblock_texture_animation = true 05:38 NakedFury I must have skipped that one yesterday when I was readin the file 05:38 khonkhortisan it wasn't in mine 05:39 khonkhortisan I want to witness the death of my mod (that is, animated water in default) 05:39 NakedFury what do you mean? 05:40 NakedFury also just thinking but maybe c55 should think about giving access or priviledges to long time and trusted moderators of the forums and irc to official minetest source code git. for changes and stuff in his long hiatus 05:40 VanessaE khonkhortisan: once you get it working the way you want, you'll definitely want to pull-request it...and it'll be there in 6 months when c55 gets around to pulling. :-) 05:41 khonkhortisan that would be a request for manual merge. 05:41 khonkhortisan There should be an emergency merge button, for the "Emtpy bucket" syndrome. 05:41 VanessaE probably yeah 05:43 NakedFury sfan5, vanessa, calinou and the others(dont remember names right this moment) could act as "temporary managers" of the github source code while he is gone. making necessary changes when possible and needed. 05:43 VanessaE go over to -dev and propose it :-) 05:43 VanessaE I don't even dare suggest that :-) 05:43 khonkhortisan That's too organized, it might work 05:44 NakedFury yes. its needed right now for minetest to grow more 05:44 khonkhortisan I think the water is slower now, but I don't think I was getting the correct viscosity before. 05:46 VanessaE I timed my animation for roughly 5 fps or so, so a fixed time of 3 seconds seems right 05:46 VanessaE for the water source that is 05:46 VanessaE for the flowing water, probably a time of 2 seconds is about right 05:48 * khonkhortisan trying... 05:48 khonkhortisan ^ isn't correct grammar for third-person 05:48 VanessaE of course I used 16 frames for the animated source, I think you did the same for the animated flowing, for HDX 05:49 khonkhortisan I used two frames for source, but it won't affect replacing the image. 05:50 khonkhortisan at 2 I fall much faster than the texture does. 05:50 VanessaE heh 05:51 VanessaE even if you set the time to 0.1 you'd fall faster eventually :-) 05:54 VanessaE (I think terminal velocity in the game is somewhere around 200 blocks/second 05:56 khonkhortisan and I thought I already hit terminal velocity. That shows you how well I can judge acceleration. 05:59 VanessaE ok, the adjusted speeds look good 06:00 * khonkhortisan updated the forum topic 06:00 khonkhortisan that should be good for now 06:02 khonkhortisan I like the google picture thing 06:03 khonkhortisan But it's wierd to have the pictures move when I scroll 06:05 VanessaE I've never cared for the way google image search works these days 06:06 VanessaE ever since they switched to the general form they use now, it's been buggy 06:06 khonkhortisan I mean the google doodle <- remembered what it's called 06:07 VanessaE oh that thing 06:07 VanessaE what's today's? 06:08 khonkhortisan I don't usually see it because of my background, it hides the doodle unless I press the corner button 06:08 VanessaE oh cute 06:09 VanessaE someone had WAY too much time on their hands :-) 06:09 NakedFury holy shit I have that movie in VHS 06:09 khonkhortisan If you scroll up after it's done without pressing the search button, the e's move 06:09 NakedFury absolutely love it 06:10 khonkhortisan oh. I was falling in water while watching an adjacent waterfall when I was comparing the speeds. 06:12 khonkhortisan I think mob framework keeps changing its name 06:12 khonkhortisan If there was going to be any block physics, I'd want them to be in the sand. 06:13 NakedFury make them not change color when falling 06:14 khonkhortisan make node-sized nodeboxes not be darker than nodes 06:16 khonkhortisan You mean when they blink black? I think it'd have to synchronize the node disappearing with the entity appearing, or have them be slightly different sizes. 06:19 anunnaki hey VanessaE whats the giveme syntax for terracotta roofing shingles 06:19 anunnaki homedecor:terracotta_roof_shingles? 06:20 VanessaE I forget offhand :p-) 06:20 VanessaE :-) 06:20 anunnaki well that sucks, lol i'm sure i'll figure it out 06:21 VanessaE homedecor:roof_tile_terracotta 06:21 VanessaE wait, that's for the little piece tou have to craft 06:21 VanessaE homedecor:shingles_terracotta 06:21 VanessaE that's it 06:22 anunnaki why thank you 06:22 anunnaki <3 06:22 VanessaE like I said, if you're gonna /giveme, just use creative mode :-) 06:22 anunnaki well its ont he europe server 06:22 khonkhortisan I would've ran the script and told you if minetest hadn't frozen my computer 06:22 anunnaki i could use creative mode 06:23 anunnaki but not sure if everyone wants that 06:23 khonkhortisan I got stuck at the smiley 06:23 VanessaE ah 06:24 khonkhortisan Is this https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/264 enough for me to not update the cube? 06:25 VanessaE ? 06:26 khonkhortisan My right-click menu will be a 3x3 of black squares with white scratches in it 06:26 VanessaE ah, yeah I saw that before 06:26 VanessaE if that's what works best, go for it 06:26 VanessaE though you will probably want to use better imagery eventually ;) 06:26 khonkhortisan I'll change it when people hate it enough 06:27 khonkhortisan and when the black square isn't there 06:27 khonkhortisan When it's worth it for it to look better 06:27 VanessaE do what I do in such situations: cheat. 06:28 VanessaE flatten the image against whatever background color you figure should be there (the default is #808080) 06:28 VanessaE or get fancy and construct a square button image to hold the actual icon, and flatten it to that 06:29 khonkhortisan -night- 06:29 VanessaE night :-) 06:30 VanessaE morning sfan. 06:55 VanessaE time for me to head off to bed. 06:55 VanessaE night all 07:15 * Calinou is browsing around bukkit plugin list, he only sees (L)GPL'd plugins 07:15 Calinou that's what happens when you use GPL for the API 07:18 NakedFury looking for ideas? 07:19 Calinou no 07:19 NakedFury and what do you mean by L GPL? 07:19 NakedFury you play minecraft then? 07:22 NakedFury Lesser General Public License: can distribute but not change or edit. 07:23 Calinou ...no 07:23 Calinou yes, I play minecraft 07:23 Calinou LGPL == GPL, but allows non-free derivative works 07:24 NakedFury they should do plain GPL 07:45 Calinou my internet "broke" 07:45 Calinou http://www.speedtest.net/result/2242679090.png 07:45 Calinou and this is my new connection 07:45 Calinou fuck my ISP 07:45 Calinou seriously, they need to fix their throttling 07:45 Calinou the upload I had was terrible already, now it's even more terrible 07:46 Calinou MY CONNECTION IS SLOWER THAN BEFORE. 07:53 Calinou_ a router restart helped 08:22 Calinou__ yay ip change, I could go to #minecraft for a sec 08:22 Calinou__ then retarded ops banned me 08:29 Calinou_ yay shittier upload 09:03 VanessaE well I didn't sleep but at least I rested for a while. 09:04 Calinou_ hi 09:04 * Calinou_ got his entire ISP banned in #minecraft 09:04 Calinou_ I bet I caused at least one innocent ban 09:04 VanessaE haha 09:04 Calinou_ the ISP ban will be removed tomorrow, the individual ban will be kept 09:05 Calinou_ suddenly: webchat 09:05 VanessaE Calinou is now known as Trollinou 09:05 VanessaE ;) 09:13 VanessaE I have to ask...what is it that keeps getting you banned from there anyway? 09:23 Calinou_ ask the ops 09:23 VanessaE heh 09:26 TheRedMoodwin Hello 09:26 TheRedMoodwin OldCoder: Feeling better today? 09:38 TheRedMoodwin Um 09:38 TheRedMoodwin Request 09:38 TheRedMoodwin Could anyone make a forum post for me? 09:39 TheRedMoodwin I need someone to keep a forum post about a mod I am making 09:39 VanessaE make one yourself in Modding General 09:39 TheRedMoodwin But I don't have the time to really setup a post, and besides my grammar is very bad 09:39 TheRedMoodwin Yeah 09:39 VanessaE if you have time to code it, you have time to document it :-) 09:45 TheRedMoodwin But last time I did that it went like this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/113167-modsandstone-and-more-from-a-newb/page__hl__sandstone%20and%20more%20mods%20from%20newb 09:45 TheRedMoodwin I document my code 09:45 TheRedMoodwin But I am really bad at advertising 09:46 TheRedMoodwin THat turned out really bad 09:46 TheRedMoodwin As I had a partner 09:46 VanessaE well minetest forums are a little more forgiving :-) 09:46 TheRedMoodwin And he is the one who kinda started the vote for glory 09:46 TheRedMoodwin I look back at it and cry over my own desire to be recognized x3 10:28 skully_ old ckder 10:28 skully_ coder 10:31 TheRedMoodwin Just added a new feature 10:32 TheRedMoodwin Haven't really proof tested it, so it is going into the dev branche 10:32 TheRedMoodwin Branch* 10:32 TheRedMoodwin VanessaE: Can I ask what languages you have been using or are using, ms? 10:32 VanessaE programming languages? 10:32 TheRedMoodwin Yes, ms. 10:33 VanessaE basic, 6502 assembly from back in the 8-bit days, BASH script, Lua, Verilog, and I've dabbled in C, C++, Python 10:33 TheRedMoodwin THat is quite the track record, ms. 10:36 OldCoder oh? 10:36 VanessaE most of it is quite rusty now 10:36 OldCoder She is making a good start :p 10:36 OldCoder skully_, yes/ 10:36 OldCoder ? 10:37 VanessaE only Lua and BASH get much love anymore, though I've started playing with C++ again 10:38 OldCoder JavaScript, Forth, Pascal, Bash 10:38 OldCoder Bash is a smash 10:38 OldCoder People should not trash 10:38 OldCoder Bash is a smash 10:38 OldCoder Tcl/Tk: people today disrespect it a bit 10:38 OldCoder but with me it's a hit 10:38 OldCoder Java is not JavaScript 10:38 OldCoder Lua how'ja Dua 10:38 OldCoder 10:38 VanessaE I've played a bit with javascript and tcl/tk as well, forgot about those 10:46 TheRedMoodwin I have done Forth, pascal, c++, c, lua, python, ruby, perl 10:46 TheRedMoodwin nodejs, css, assembly(this is breif), fortran 75 10:47 VanessaE props for understanding line nois^W^WPerl. :-) 10:47 Lumpio- I have "done" dozens of languages 10:47 TheRedMoodwin java(i crindge) 10:47 TheRedMoodwin Yeah! 10:47 Lumpio- But that doesn't mean I can actually use all of them properly. 10:47 TheRedMoodwin Yes! 10:47 TheRedMoodwin That is the thing, sir/mis 10:47 Lumpio- So having "done" a language is more or less meaningless. 10:47 TheRedMoodwin I disagree there, sir/mis 10:47 TheRedMoodwin Having done nodejs, i understand asyncron programming much more 10:47 TheRedMoodwin Having done lisp 10:48 TheRedMoodwin I understand consepts of functions much better 10:48 OldCoder Lisp is all right 10:48 TheRedMoodwin No it is by gods not 10:48 TheRedMoodwin (((((((()))))) 10:48 OldCoder Lovable Interesting Single Parentheses 10:48 TheRedMoodwin X3 10:48 OldCoder (--) 10:48 TheRedMoodwin Single? 10:48 TheRedMoodwin SINGEL? 10:48 OldCoder Well in pairs 10:48 TheRedMoodwin There are 1000 of them 10:48 OldCoder Yep 10:48 TheRedMoodwin But old coder 10:48 OldCoder cool 10:48 TheRedMoodwin I am going to keep the stable realase in the master branch 10:48 OldCoder Fine 10:49 OldCoder The Lisp version? 10:49 TheRedMoodwin And when I add new features and such they are going into the dev branch 10:49 TheRedMoodwin X3 10:49 TheRedMoodwin No, sir 10:49 TheRedMoodwin RedSand. 10:49 OldCoder http://xkcd.com/224/ 10:49 OldCoder The Lisp version of RedSand 10:51 TheRedMoodwin X3 10:51 TheRedMoodwin Hehe 10:51 TheRedMoodwin I have never done lua 10:51 TheRedMoodwin Before this 10:51 TheRedMoodwin So the one thing I picked up, since I have actully done a lot of python latly, was that it is dead ugly 10:54 Lumpio- You can do asynchronous programming in Lisp and functions in JavaScript. 10:54 Lumpio- JS functions are exactly like Lisp lambdas. 10:56 TheRedMoodwin My firend is annoying 10:56 TheRedMoodwin Bbut OldCoder Did you get that? 10:57 TheRedMoodwin I just want you to know the system ;) 10:57 OldCoder the system? 10:57 TheRedMoodwin Added a /reply this break 10:57 TheRedMoodwin For RedSand 10:57 OldCoder I am not quite following 10:57 TheRedMoodwin How i am going to keep the revisions 10:57 TheRedMoodwin Regular updates goes into the dev branch 10:57 TheRedMoodwin Stable updates happen in the master branche 10:58 OldCoder Sounds good 10:58 TheRedMoodwin Nothing will ever be pushed which i know isen't working 10:58 TheRedMoodwin But I can't guarranty that dev will work on your setup 10:58 TheRedMoodwin Thought it should :) 10:58 TheRedMoodwin added a /reply this break 10:58 TheRedMoodwin Found a really nice way to do it :D 10:58 TheRedMoodwin That is the most fun in all of programming. When you find a problem and you find a really good solution to it 10:59 TheRedMoodwin Which is clean, small and understandable 10:59 OldCoder Yes 10:59 TheRedMoodwin Oldcoder, I also plan on maybe adding a jail function, but I am unsure.... 10:59 TheRedMoodwin One thing that is going in is kits 11:00 OldCoder TheRedMoodwin, try to avoid conflicts that conflict with existing operations 11:00 OldCoder Not just the command names 11:00 TheRedMoodwin Yeah, I know 11:00 TheRedMoodwin But the thing is that i am trying to make a command pack 11:00 TheRedMoodwin So things like kits are things I would want if i was running a server 11:01 TheRedMoodwin And since you can turn the entier thing off 11:01 TheRedMoodwin With just the flick of a boolean value 11:01 TheRedMoodwin 4 characters 11:01 TheRedMoodwin I feel like it is okey 11:01 TheRedMoodwin Wait..... 11:01 TheRedMoodwin I have an IDEA! 11:01 TheRedMoodwin :D 11:01 OldCoder Ideas are good 11:01 TheRedMoodwin I can make the command syntax configurable to 11:02 TheRedMoodwin Then you can do that 11:02 TheRedMoodwin So that if you want /reply to be /sandreply 11:02 TheRedMoodwin That is going in :D 11:02 OldCoder OK 11:02 OldCoder Interesting 11:04 TheRedMoodwin ahh 11:04 TheRedMoodwin This is going well :) 11:06 OldCoder Glad to hear it 11:08 TheRedMoodwin Yes 11:08 TheRedMoodwin I have this as a side project 11:08 TheRedMoodwin The other one being in python 11:08 TheRedMoodwin And that is harder than this 11:08 TheRedMoodwin SO this is kind of a nice break from that :) 11:08 OldCoder k 11:11 TheRedMoodwin How well should I comment out the conf.lua file? 11:13 TheRedMoodwin Well I am just going to comment like i think is good, askign that questin is kidn of wierd 11:31 TheRedMoodwin Pushing now :D 11:33 OldCoder Is it stable? 11:34 TheRedMoodwin Hmm, need to test at home 11:34 TheRedMoodwin added much configuration 11:34 TheRedMoodwin And /reply 11:34 TheRedMoodwin should be safe to pull though :) 11:34 TheRedMoodwin from the dev branch 11:40 TheRedMoodwin okey 11:40 TheRedMoodwin It us up now 11:40 OldCoder k 11:40 OldCoder TheRedMoodwin, I will update shortly. But it will not appear on the worlds until after the next restart. 11:41 TheRedMoodwin Yeah, I just wanted you to know :) 11:41 OldCoder k 11:41 OldCoder ty 11:41 TheRedMoodwin remember that you need to checkout the dev branch 11:41 TheRedMoodwin And that you need to redo the config file 11:41 TheRedMoodwin Since it is going to update 11:41 OldCoder Wait 11:41 OldCoder indicate the clone URL to save me time 11:41 OldCoder and 11:41 OldCoder perhaps I should stay with stable 11:41 OldCoder What do you think? 11:42 TheRedMoodwin yeah 11:42 TheRedMoodwin Just do that :9 11:42 TheRedMoodwin :) 11:42 OldCoder All right 11:42 TheRedMoodwin The itterations won't be very huge 11:42 TheRedMoodwin But I actully need to go now 11:42 TheRedMoodwin See you all 11:42 TheRedMoodwin later 11:43 OldCoder See you 11:43 OldCoder I need to deal with something myself but will return 11:43 OldCoder CTMN, wb 11:43 CTMN Hi 11:44 CTMN U r still online? Didn´t think that 11:44 CTMN Is 30001 ready? 11:45 OldCoder CTMN, No. I have a deal with Jango to finish it. But he left for work a few minutes ago. 11:45 CTMN So when will it be ready? 11:45 OldCoder Somebody else can help me 11:45 OldCoder When somebody helps me 11:45 CTMN With what? 11:46 CTMN I can join Mt 11:46 OldCoder O.K. 11:46 OldCoder I have some things to do ATM. What is your schedule? 11:47 CTMN I can "work" for about 2 hours 11:47 CTMN more or less 11:47 OldCoder Hmm 11:47 OldCoder Maybe 11:47 CTMN Say what do u need help with? 11:47 OldCoder I will explain when I am free 11:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, good morning kitty 11:47 NekoGloop Meoe. 11:47 CTMN Ok 11:48 NekoGloop Or something like that. 11:48 NekoGloop xD 11:48 OldCoder Meoe 11:48 CTMN @NekoGloop: R u a cat? 11:48 OldCoder He is a Neko Shounen 11:48 NekoGloop I am nekoshounen :3 11:48 CTMN -.- 11:48 NekoGloop Cat boy in japanese 11:48 OldCoder CTMN, Neko means cat 11:48 CTMN Oh 11:48 OldCoder CTMN, Shounen means boy 11:48 CTMN k 11:49 NekoGloop Actually shounen means little boy i think 11:49 OldCoder NekoGloop, teenager actually IIRC 11:49 CTMN IIRC? 11:49 OldCoder If I Recall Correctly 11:49 CTMN Whats the difference to IRC? 11:49 OldCoder It is just an acronym 11:49 OldCoder NekoGloop, wait; it appears you are correct 11:50 thexyz irc = internet relay chat 11:50 CTMN I know 11:50 OldCoder thexyz, Yes. But IIRC means If I Recall Correctly 11:50 CTMN But what does the I before IRC stand for? 11:50 CTMN Oh 11:50 OldCoder Different 11:50 thexyz OldCoder: yes, I know that 11:50 CTMN I thougth u meant it 11:51 NekoGloop Shonen, with no "u" 11:51 thexyz Shōnen 11:51 NekoGloop The characters used innthe 11:51 NekoGloop Gjsjdvvsfjkn 11:51 thexyz not shonen 11:52 thexyz anyway, who cares? 11:52 NekoGloop in the japanese "spelling" mean "few" and "years" 11:52 NekoGloop thexyz: Does it look like i can write that symbol? 11:53 thexyz does it look like i know? 11:53 OldCoder Heh 11:53 CTMN -. 11:53 OldCoder Off to a friendly start today 11:53 CTMN -.- 11:53 CTMN Me 2 11:59 Mika_R VanessaE, you know if redcrab 0.4.3 has the newest moreblocks? 11:59 NekoGloop redcrab, having something "newest"? You crazy. 12:00 VanessaE Mika_R: newest moreblocks, no. newest homedecor, yes :-) 12:00 CTMN U mean "u mad"+ 12:00 CTMN ;-) 12:00 Mika_R nekogloop, if it's the old its goood 12:01 NekoGloop I have no idea xD 12:02 CTMN Why should the old be good? 12:03 Mika_R i believe there is something wrong in the new 12:03 CTMN What? 12:03 OldCoder Mika_R, Explain 12:03 OldCoder Let's nail it down 12:03 VanessaE well, OldCoder and I appear to out-age most of the minetest community, and "good" is an understatement, so... ;-) 12:03 OldCoder Huh 12:03 CTMN Its not ur mod is it? 12:03 VanessaE (median age seems to be around 15 here ;-) ) 12:03 OldCoder VanessaE, It is hard to say 12:04 Mika_R moreblocks glass parts doesn't seem to work on europe, but as far as i tested they work in both globis and redcrabs servers 12:04 VanessaE moreblocks is Trollin^W Calinou's mod. 12:04 VanessaE glass "parts"? 12:04 Mika_R glow glass 12:04 VanessaE oh 12:04 CTMN Both glowglasses and super glowglasses work on 30001 12:04 VanessaE I should hope they work on the europe servers - homedecor depends on them to create house lighting :-) 12:05 Mika_R i'll test iron glass, coal glass, clean glass now 12:05 NekoGloop The recipes. 12:05 NekoGloop Are they the problem? 12:05 Mika_R VanessaE, how do you think i found the error, i have a stereo but no TV 12:05 NekoGloop Or are you entirely incapable of getting the glass? 12:05 VanessaE ah hah 12:05 CTMN As I know, coal and iron glass look like glowglasses but Im not sure 12:05 NekoGloop People! 12:06 NekoGloop I'm askin a question! 12:06 VanessaE Mika_R: you've tried the old recipes as well? torch (or two) above glass in a vertical column? 12:06 Mika_R i can make glass, i don't fully understand lua files but the recipes were at least thre 12:06 CTMN ASK 12:06 Mika_R old recipe? is there some new? 12:06 NekoGloop CTMN: I ALREADY DID 12:06 VanessaE that's the recipe I've always used is what I mean 12:06 CTMN No NekoGloop 12:06 NekoGloop Mika_R: Send me a pastebin of the init.lua 12:06 VanessaE if it doesn't work it means the recipes are screwed up 12:07 VanessaE ah hah. 12:07 Mika_R it seems to be only the glow glass and clean glass, i'll get coffee and start to test 12:07 VanessaE minetest.register_craft({ 12:07 VanessaE output = "moreblocks:glowglass 1", 12:07 VanessaE type = "shapeless", 12:07 VanessaE recipe = {"default:torch", "default:glass"}, 12:07 VanessaE }) 12:07 NekoGloop Ugh! 12:07 OldCoder Let me know please 12:07 VanessaE that's not the usual recipe. 12:07 NekoGloop VanessaE: But should work 12:07 VanessaE yes 12:08 NekoGloop Now can someone pastebin the damn init.lua so i can see the whole thing 12:08 VanessaE https://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods/blob/master/moreblocks/init.lua 12:08 VanessaE the damn init.lua ;-) 12:09 VanessaE comparing it to one of my shapeless recipes in homedecor, I don't see why that wouldn't work 12:10 NekoGloop Type has to be the first line i think 12:12 Mika_R pastebin? 12:12 NekoGloop Are you THAT much of a modding noob to not know what pastebin is? 12:12 NekoGloop And also not to know what google is? 12:12 Mika_R YES 12:13 NekoGloop Oh so you dont know what google is? :D 12:13 OldCoder Be nice 12:13 NekoGloop I am. 12:13 OldCoder k 12:13 * OldCoder will be back in a little while 12:13 VanessaE jeez neko who pissed in your cheerios today? 12:13 Mika_R google is that thing that solves all 12:13 OldCoder Magick! 12:13 NekoGloop Nah 12:14 NekoGloop VanessaE: I had waffles :P 12:14 CTMN Google is the thing that knows everything 12:14 VanessaE ok, in your orange juice then :-) 12:14 CTMN If u ask it, it will give an aswer to every question 12:15 NekoGloop I had mountain dew :P 12:15 CTMN Who of u uses 4.3? 12:15 NekoGloop CTMN: Nobody, we dont have a time machine. 12:15 VanessaE no one does. 12:16 VanessaE 4.3 does not exist yet. 12:16 CTMN I mean 0.4.3 12:16 CTMN -.- 12:16 NekoGloop And you said something completly different. 12:16 NekoGloop I use 0.4.3 oldcoder's build. 12:16 VanessaE ok I just tested. 12:17 VanessaE the current git of moreblocks works fine. 12:17 CTMN If u mine a bit, u will get air in 0.4.3 12:17 VanessaE I can make [super ]glow glass without issue. 12:17 NekoGloop CTMN: Uh, have you lived under a rock for a year? 12:17 NekoGloop That's happened since the dawn of time(minetest) 12:18 VanessaE never had it happen except as the result of some random mod 12:18 VanessaE (or so I thought) 12:18 CTMN I only got the bug since I play 0.4.3 12:18 NekoGloop CTMN: Then you are lucky 12:18 CTMN -.- 12:18 CTMN Pulverize works on every server 12:18 NekoGloop VanessaE: You are also lucky 12:18 NekoGloop Yes, i know that. 12:19 CTMN If u have too much air, pulverize it 12:19 NekoGloop I know this, why are you saying it? 12:19 CTMN Cause u said we were lucky 12:20 VanessaE or you can just drop it in a hole somewhere :-) 12:20 NekoGloop Or drop it in your neighbor's yard, always a good alternative. 12:20 CTMN Because it takes too much space to place it in the middle of a way? 12:20 CTMN XD 12:21 NekoGloop We mean dropping with Q 12:21 CTMN there may be noobs who would collect that... 12:23 VanessaE also note that "unknown blocks" (which air is) usually get deleted on drop anyway 12:24 CTMN Air gets deleted on placing as a block 12:24 NekoGloop Duh? 12:24 NekoGloop You placed air. 12:25 CTMN ? 12:25 NekoGloop It wasnt deleted, you literally placed air. 12:25 CTMN It depends on what the code does 12:26 CTMN But I think that its maybe registered as an air block 12:26 NekoGloop It literally placed air 12:26 CTMN If it can be mined 12:26 NekoGloop It cant be mined because it isnt pointable 12:26 TheRedMoodWin Okey 12:26 TheRedMoodWin Back :) 12:27 NekoGloop TheRedMoodWin: Meow. :3 12:27 CTMN Hi 12:27 * TheRedMoodWin pets neko 12:27 TheRedMoodWin How are you?= 12:27 * NekoGloop purrs >w< 12:28 NekoGloop Good :3 12:29 * CTMN is proud of being not as crazy as an animal 12:29 TheRedMoodWin Hey 12:29 TheRedMoodWin Was that bad words about my friend? 12:29 TheRedMoodWin :o 12:29 CTMN No 12:30 TheRedMoodWin Good 12:30 * TheRedMoodWin goes back to slowly stroking nekos fur 12:30 TheRedMoodWin I sometimes wish I had a cats life 12:30 CTMN Neko, can u teach me to speak the language of cats? 12:31 * NekoGloop ignores that he doesnt have fur and purrs >w< 12:32 TheRedMoodWin Yes you do 12:32 TheRedMoodWin You are a cat 12:32 TheRedMoodWin :o 12:32 CTMN There r cats without a fur 12:32 NekoGloop I am nekoshonen, we went over this ^^ 12:32 TheRedMoodWin :o 12:32 * TheRedMoodWin is a simple minded person 12:32 TheRedMoodWin So you are not a cat 12:32 NekoGloop Cat-boy 12:33 CTMN So u look like naruto 12:33 NekoGloop No -_- 12:33 TheRedMoodWin So you are a CAT! 12:33 TheRedMoodWin :D 12:33 CTMN I mean the hairs in the face 12:33 VanessaE hell I figured he just had a collection of fursuits he switched between depending on mood. 12:33 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE, ms this is confusing 12:33 TheRedMoodWin :( 12:34 VanessaE also, those aren't whiskers on Naruto's face, they're just markings afaik. 12:34 VanessaE (yes, I've seen the entire first series :-) ) 12:34 CTMN Oh 12:34 CTMN Im not a Naruto freak 12:34 NekoGloop http://www.webcomicsnation.com/memberimages/catboy_waiter.png something like this 12:34 VanessaE (and Naruto was influenced notby a cat but by a fox, which is a canine) 12:35 CTMN ... 12:35 NekoGloop Yes i just used google images. 12:36 NekoGloop No i have no idea what website that is. 12:36 NekoGloop No i dont care. 12:36 TheRedMoodWin Wait 12:36 CTMN k... 12:36 TheRedMoodWin So you are not a cat.... 12:36 CTMN The image is just a bit weird 12:36 Lumpio- narutard alert 12:36 CTMN A catboy 12:36 NekoGloop Yes a catboy! :l 12:37 VanessaE neko, I actually figured closer to this: http://www.advancedanime.com/pictures/normal_21385db72c214d3c2fa2676565d6c192.jpg 12:37 TheRedMoodWin wait a secound... 12:37 NekoGloop Heh. 12:38 NekoGloop Yeah what she posted 12:38 * TheRedMoodWin stops petting neko 12:38 TheRedMoodWin ... 12:38 NekoGloop I'm just too lazy to search that long 12:38 TheRedMoodWin ... 12:39 NekoGloop What? :o 12:39 TheRedMoodWin :( 12:39 * TheRedMoodWin puts neko down on the ground and walks into a corner 12:39 TheRedMoodWin ; ~ ; 12:39 NekoGloop I have no idea 12:40 NekoGloop What just happened 12:40 NekoGloop But whatever :D 12:41 VanessaE heh 12:41 NekoGloop http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=ShAqslqr_x0 :3 12:41 VanessaE I'm too tired to analyze anything that happens here, so.. 12:41 VanessaE :-) 12:41 TheRedMoodWin Why are you tierd, miss? 12:41 CTMN Found 2 GIMP bugs again -.- 12:42 TheRedMoodWin Neko, this is disturbing 12:42 VanessaE because I stayed up all night again 12:43 * VanessaE is an insomniac. 12:43 TheRedMoodWin Ohh 12:43 TheRedMoodWin I love sleep. 12:43 NekoGloop What is disturbing? :o 12:43 TheRedMoodWin But I am on medication 12:43 TheRedMoodWin And that medication hates sleep, miss :( 12:43 TheRedMoodWin NekoGloop, the fact that you are not a cat, and that song. 12:43 TheRedMoodWin :( 12:44 NekoGloop Ievan polkka is awesome :o 12:44 NekoGloop Its russian, so i understand nothing of it, but still awesome 12:45 CTMN -.- 12:45 CTMN U like songs that u dont understand 12:46 TheRedMoodWin CTMN was that a bad word? 12:46 NekoGloop Because then i can focus less on the song and more on what i'm doing 12:46 CTMN no 12:46 TheRedMoodWin Neko Have you heard my coding music? 12:46 TheRedMoodWin Good :D 12:46 CTMN Oh thats why 12:46 TheRedMoodWin miss, Why don't you go to sleep? 12:46 CTMN Can u post it again? 12:46 NekoGloop Post what? 12:46 NekoGloop http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=ShAqslqr_x0 this? 12:47 TheRedMoodWin Your body is going to do it no matter what you do, so why not do it now? 12:47 CTMN TheRedMoodWin can u post that again? 12:47 TheRedMoodWin http://gifsound.com/?gif=http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj7e34Tgt11qhy6c9o1_400.gif&sound=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWa-rWSsoZA 12:47 TheRedMoodWin That is when I am going for like really boring code 12:47 TheRedMoodWin Like lua 12:48 VanessaE OldCoder: confirmed, whatever it is that's in place as moreblocks on europe.minetest.org:30000 is not current or is broken. btw, nice textures. 12:48 OldCoder Back 12:48 OldCoder VanessaE, ty and wait 12:48 TheRedMoodWin X3 12:49 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder you need to sleep 12:49 TheRedMoodWin :D 12:49 OldCoder Not ATM 12:49 TheRedMoodWin Yes 12:49 TheRedMoodWin I can tell you and miss a fairytail 12:49 TheRedMoodWin And you can sleep :D 12:49 VanessaE OldCoder: also, get my Xdoors² textures from HDX. They should fit well with this texture pack 12:50 VanessaE no fairy tales please :-) 12:50 TheRedMoodWin Why not? 12:50 TheRedMoodWin :( 12:50 * TheRedMoodWin loves simple fairytails 12:50 VanessaE OldCoder: wait before you do anything 12:51 OldCoder VanessaE, moreblocks is Calinou git version brand new. Talk to him. 12:51 OldCoder I can downgrade 12:52 VanessaE no 12:52 VanessaE I just tested it locally 12:52 VanessaE it works 12:52 OldCoder Well? 12:52 VanessaE I think something may be in error in your online copy 12:52 OldCoder It is brand new 12:52 VanessaE but... 12:52 OldCoder I will update, then 12:52 VanessaE wait, 12:52 OldCoder Regarding xdoors 12:52 OldCoder Checking 12:52 VanessaE is there a mod in place that changes the torches or the glass in any way? as in redefines them? 12:52 OldCoder The mod list is on my page 12:53 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 12:53 OldCoder Tell me what to search for 12:53 OldCoder And I will grep the code 12:53 VanessaE checking 12:53 OldCoder But I really can't spend 12 hours today 12:53 OldCoder I need to send email before the start of business in 3 hours 12:53 OldCoder 12:54 OldCoder Regarding xdoors... I'd need to patch that into the xdoors* mod, wouldn't I? 12:54 OldCoder It wouldn't work as default; or would it? 12:54 VanessaE I dunno; my texture pack natively supports it client-side anyway 12:54 OldCoder Different 12:54 OldCoder It modifies the xdoors* mod? 12:54 VanessaE as long as you scale them down to something appropriate for server-side textures e.g. 32px or so. 12:54 OldCoder It modifies the xdoors* mod? 12:55 VanessaE no, it does not modify the mod, it just overrides what is supplied there by the game's normal texture loading process 12:55 OldCoder Yes 12:55 OldCoder But how do I do that server side? 12:55 VanessaE beats me, probably replace the mod's textures then 12:56 OldCoder I'll need to add patch code then 12:56 VanessaE just a thought - the default door texture looks like ass :-) 12:56 VanessaE no, no code patches 12:56 VanessaE you just replace the image files. 12:56 OldCoder Proceeding 12:56 OldCoder You don't understand 12:56 OldCoder None of this can be done manually 12:56 VanessaE but back up the old ones first just in case you don't like them 12:56 OldCoder It needs to be automated 12:56 OldCoder You don't understand 12:56 VanessaE ok 12:56 OldCoder The worlds 12:56 OldCoder get rebuilt 100% 12:56 OldCoder when I update things. Therefore I must write code to do this. 12:56 VanessaE oh ok 12:56 TheRedMoodWin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ue-413N49k 12:56 OldCoder Once the code is written it is easier 12:57 OldCoder But there was rather more to it than was complained about yesterday 12:57 VanessaE I interpreted "patch the code" as "Patch the code of xdoors2", not "patch my update code". 12:57 OldCoder "8 hours... for a few mods?" 12:57 OldCoder D: 12:57 OldCoder Working 12:57 OldCoder VanessaE, these images go where on client side? 12:57 CTMN Is it so hard to install mods? 12:58 TheRedMoodWin CTMN he is not installing them 12:58 OldCoder CTMN, For server side it is quite complicated 12:58 TheRedMoodWin He is making scripts that does it automaticly 12:58 VanessaE on the client side it is sufficient to put them in ~/.minetest/textures/all or whatever the folder it 12:58 VanessaE is 12:58 OldCoder VanessaE, here is an interesting question... 12:58 VanessaE or anywhere you want and then point minetest.conf to it 12:58 OldCoder Stop 12:58 OldCoder VanessaE, here is an interesting question... 12:58 * VanessaE stops 12:58 * TheRedMoodWin eats a lolipop. 12:58 OldCoder Does that folder serve as *default* or as *highest priority* ? 12:58 TheRedMoodWin :D 12:58 OldCoder VanessaE, ^ 12:59 VanessaE both. 12:59 OldCoder Explain please 12:59 TheRedMoodWin :o 12:59 TheRedMoodWin She is a coding god. 12:59 * TheRedMoodWin kneels before miss, VanessaE 12:59 OldCoder VanessaE, also indicate if straight convert of xdoors* images to 32x32 will work 12:59 VanessaE if empty, the game's and mods' default textures will be used. If populated, the textures therein will be used instead. If empty but you point minetest.conf somewhere else, then the somewhere else will be used instead. 13:00 TheRedMoodWin CTMN This is my coding music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ue-413N49k 13:00 OldCoder Reviewing 13:00 VanessaE I think you could scale them to 32px, yeah (be sure to keep the aspect ratio and threshold alpha at a low value to make sure no edge pixels get dropped)) 13:00 OldCoder VanessaE, you are saying highest priority 13:00 OldCoder Interesting 13:00 OldCoder ty 13:00 CTMN TheRedMoodWin, I know 13:00 VanessaE basically yeah. 13:00 VanessaE but only if you don't point minetest.conf to a specific folder. 13:00 VanessaE for example: 13:01 OldCoder VanessaE, I get the idea. I will try ImageMagick convert. Any suggestions about allpha switch? 13:01 OldCoder *alpha 13:01 VanessaE texture_path = /home/vanessa/Minetest-Textures-and-mods/texture-packs/512px/Vanessa_512HD 13:01 VanessaE I store my 512px HDX textures in that location. that folder overrides everything else by merely existing and being populated with appropriately named images 13:02 VanessaE threshold at 25% should do 13:02 TheRedMoodWin :) 13:02 TheRedMoodWin I love how there is not use for #minetest-delta 13:02 OldCoder 13:02 CTMN That channel is for source code development 13:02 VanessaE TheRedMoodWin: there is, but usually it's for more low-level engine- or game-related code and typically only back and forth with c55 and other devs. 13:03 OldCoder VanessaE, determine what I should grep for and I'll research the glass issue 13:03 VanessaE (compared to -dev which is strictly for engine core discussions and is highly topical) 13:03 VanessaE OldCoder: I've looked the mods list over and don't see anything that jumps out at me 13:03 OldCoder VanessaE, determine what I should grep for and I'll research the glass issue 13:03 OldCoder I will search the code 13:03 CTMN But I think there should be a special channel for such things 13:03 OldCoder Tell me what to search for 13:03 OldCoder CTMN, this is the mods channel 13:03 TheRedMoodWin :o 13:03 TheRedMoodWin Is it 13:04 OldCoder CTMN, I can't work on 30001 until tonight 13:04 VanessaE grep for anything relating to the creation of a torch 13:04 OldCoder Any pattern suggestions? 13:04 CTMN OldCoder, will it be ready tomorrow? 13:04 VanessaE see if there's something interfereing with the craft of stick + coal_lump 13:04 OldCoder CTMN, It will be ready when somebody helps me 13:04 TheRedMoodWin Anyone got any lua source formatters? 13:04 OldCoder I could write one 13:04 CTMN What should I do? 13:04 OldCoder CTMN, Help me tonight 13:04 OldCoder You are in Europe, correct? 13:04 CTMN Yes 13:05 CTMN Say in relation to yet 13:05 OldCoder What is today's schedule? 13:05 OldCoder You are 8 to 10 hours ahead of me 13:05 CTMN I maybe have to go offline soon 13:05 OldCoder CTMN, Yes. For the day? 13:05 OldCoder CTMN, I will work with Jango if he shows up 13:05 CTMN Yes 13:05 VanessaE OldCoder: offhand, I'd say a two-stage search - grep for minetest.register_craft with at least 10 lines of context, then grep that for default:coal_lump also with 10 lines of context 13:05 OldCoder We will talk further 13:05 CTMN Say what I have to do 13:05 CTMN Just say it 13:05 OldCoder VanessaE, will do shortly 13:06 OldCoder CTMN, How much time is there? 13:06 VanessaE (that way uou can see the entire recipe and some of the surroundings, if there's a relevant match) 13:06 OldCoder VanessaE, I will check 13:06 OldCoder CTMN, How much time is there? 13:06 CTMN At me its around 15:00 13:06 OldCoder yes 13:06 CTMN dont know exactly 13:06 CTMN (in a 1 hour range) 13:06 * OldCoder sighs 13:06 CTMN Why? 13:06 OldCoder CTMN, Do you have a rough idea of how much time there is? 13:07 OldCoder Without time there is no point in discussing the matter 13:07 CTMN 15:0 13:07 OldCoder No 13:07 CTMN 15:00 13:07 OldCoder How much time remains until you must leave? 13:07 CTMN I have 10 minutes 13:07 OldCoder Not enough time 13:07 CTMN between 10 and 30 minutes 13:07 OldCoder What must be done will take from 1 to 2 hours 13:07 OldCoder I will talk to Jango if he returns 13:08 OldCoder Nobody offered to help yesterday 13:08 OldCoder But I will do what I can 13:08 CTMN I offered 13:08 OldCoder CTMN, I regret any inconvenience 13:08 OldCoder Yes; you did 13:08 OldCoder Later on 13:08 OldCoder It is fine 13:08 CTMN Oh 13:08 OldCoder CTMN, I will proceed when possible 13:08 CTMN Ok 13:08 OldCoder CTMN, Have a nice afternoon 13:08 CTMN U 2 13:08 OldCoder And thank you for your remark 13:08 OldCoder remarks* 13:08 OldCoder They were appreciated 13:09 OldCoder More so than some others 13:09 OldCoder TTYL 13:09 OldCoder VanessaE, proceeding with both issues now 13:09 VanessaE OldCoder: ok. remember it's only a guess 13:09 OldCoder That is fine 13:09 OldCoder Guesses Are Our Business 13:09 OldCoder Well, not really 13:09 OldCoder Working 13:10 TheRedMoodWin okey 13:10 TheRedMoodWin Oldcoder I will send you a message once I have the next stable release 13:10 OldCoder k 13:10 TheRedMoodWin ;) 13:10 OldCoder Sure 13:10 TheRedMoodWin Kits and more is going in 13:10 TheRedMoodWin Btw this is how the new config file is looking right now 13:10 TheRedMoodWin https://github.com/TheRedMood/redsand/blob/dev/conf.lua 13:11 TheRedMoodWin I hope it is good enough commented 13:11 TheRedMoodWin I chose to do it after rather than above the code 13:11 VanessaE ok, time for me to lie down again, see if I can sleep a little 13:12 OldCoder 3dforniture charcoal default glooporers homedecor technic unifieddyes woolcraft use default:coal_lump 13:12 VanessaE OldCoder: good luck. If you don't find anything that looks like the problem, try searching for cooking recipes that use sand as the input - just in case "glass" isn't really glass. 13:12 OldCoder checking context 13:12 TheRedMoodWin Please tell me find anything you want better in the conf file 13:12 TheRedMoodWin :) 13:12 OldCoder k 13:13 OldCoder Hmm 13:14 OldCoder 3dforniture makes a torch wall 13:15 Mika_R oldcoder, 3dfurniture and moreblocks work on redcrabs server 13:16 OldCoder Mika_R, all right 13:17 OldCoder Mika_R, VanessaE Frankly I suggest somebody install the mods on my list locally and try the combination. Remove the mods one by one to diagnose the issue. VanessaE Time will not permit me to analyze this much code. 13:18 Mika_R Oldcoder, just tell me how i install mods in singleplayer and ill see what i can do 13:18 OldCoder Mika_R, VanessaE can tell you that 13:18 OldCoder It is pretty easy I think 13:18 OldCoder Mika_R, I don't do much client side stuff yet 13:18 OldCoder Mika_R, others can explain that as well 13:19 Mika_R on forum it said to move the mods in mods folder but i didn't get them ingame 13:19 OldCoder Mika_R, If nobody else explains I will tell you one way 13:19 OldCoder But it is not official 13:19 OldCoder Try to get one of the others to explain first 13:19 OldCoder Their way may be better 13:20 Mika_R asked VE in PM 13:26 Mika_R seem to have found 13:26 TheRedMoodWin Nice :) 13:26 TheRedMoodWin What are you going to do now? 13:26 OldCoder Oh? 13:27 OldCoder REVIVE_MSG = "Like a Phoenix %s rises from the ashes" 13:27 OldCoder TheRedMood, is that in the dev sources yet? 13:27 TheRedMoodWin yes... 13:27 OldCoder k 13:27 TheRedMoodWin is that a problem? 13:27 OldCoder Not in stable though, right? 13:27 TheRedMoodWin no 13:28 OldCoder Just checking 13:28 OldCoder No problem 13:28 TheRedMoodWin I am working like a hero right now x3 13:28 OldCoder Good for you 13:28 TheRedMoodWin I am organizing files 13:28 TheRedMoodWin So that its just not 1 big file 13:30 TheRedMoodWin And also 13:30 TheRedMoodWin Do you like the new config setup? 13:35 Mika_R oldcoder, got same problem now in singleplayer, can make other stuff but not glow glass 13:36 OldCoder k 13:36 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I am using stable 13:36 OldCoder It is nice 13:36 OldCoder Mika_R, Now remove one mod at a time 13:36 OldCoder To identify conflict 13:36 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder, I know, but i sent a link to the new one 13:36 TheRedMoodWin Just the config file 13:37 TheRedMoodWin On github 13:38 OldCoder k 13:38 OldCoder Where is the link? 13:38 TheRedMoodWin Want me to resend? 13:38 OldCoder Yes 13:38 TheRedMoodWin https://github.com/TheRedMood/redsand/blob/dev/conf.lua 13:38 OldCoder R 13:39 OldCoder TheRedMood, any chance of a direct link? 13:39 TheRedMoodWin ? 13:39 TheRedMoodWin What do you mean? 13:39 TheRedMoodWin :o 13:39 TheRedMoodWin Like without github? 13:39 TheRedMoodWin Or? 13:40 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, directly to Lua file 13:40 OldCoder at GitHub is fine 13:40 OldCoder I cannot see the file right now 13:40 OldCoder Just GitHub stuff 13:40 TheRedMoodWin really? 13:40 TheRedMoodWin :o 13:40 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I am busy today 13:40 OldCoder Send link for actual file 13:41 Mika_R Oldcoder, as far as i know i only have moreblocks installed and doesn't work 13:41 TheRedMoodWin okey 13:41 TheRedMoodWin Coming up in 2 sec 13:41 OldCoder Mika_R, Well that is interesting 13:41 OldCoder Any way to verify that no other mods are present? 13:41 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder https://dl.dropbox.com/u/47149088/configure.lua 13:42 TheRedMoodWin That is the file i would think 13:42 Mika_R with /mods i find following, bucket, default, experimental, give_initial_stuff, legacy and moreblocks 13:42 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, it is very nice. Only suggestion is use spaces not tabs 13:42 OldCoder Mika_R, good. So moreblocks does not work. 13:42 TheRedMoodWin Yeah 13:42 OldCoder Mika_R, talk to Calinou 13:43 TheRedMoodWin I noticed that :) 13:43 OldCoder Mika_R, I will give you... 13:43 OldCoder an old moreblocks to try 13:43 OldCoder Hold on 13:43 TheRedMoodWin Well Nice that you like it :) 13:43 OldCoder k 13:44 Mika_R stripped down to only default and moreblocks, still no go 13:44 OldCoder Wait 13:44 cosarara97 hi 13:44 OldCoder cosarara97, Hi 13:44 OldCoder http://minetest.org/moreblocks-120923.zip 13:44 cosarara97 Is there any way tho know what mods are missing in a world? 13:44 OldCoder Mika_R, uninstall moreblocks 13:44 OldCoder cosarara97, Sort of 13:44 OldCoder Mika_R, install that version. What happens? 13:44 OldCoder cosarara97, What do you mean by missing? 13:45 OldCoder If you have one... 13:45 cosarara97 what mod are some unknown blocks from 13:45 OldCoder That depends on another and the other is missing... 13:45 OldCoder Ah 13:45 OldCoder dig a block 13:45 OldCoder The log will tell you what it is 13:45 OldCoder Does anybody know where the log is, client side? 13:45 cosarara97 thanks, forgot that 13:45 OldCoder Mika_R, proceed with the ZIP file I just gave you 13:45 OldCoder cosarara97, k 13:46 cosarara97 So beds was missing :) 13:46 Mika_R somehow doesn't work 13:47 Mika_R iron glass works so the mod is in the game 13:49 TheRedMoodWin Yesh 13:50 TheRedMoodWin Made better function on /list 13:51 OldCoder cosarara97, k 13:51 OldCoder Mika_R, Explain 13:52 OldCoder Mika_R, The old mod doesn't work either? 13:52 cosarara97 OldCoder: ? 13:52 OldCoder cosarara97, that was short for O.K. 13:52 OldCoder Acknowledging you 13:52 cosarara97 ok 13:56 CTMN gtg bb 13:56 OldCoder cu 14:01 Mika_R oldcoder, so it seems 14:01 OldCoder That is interesting 14:02 OldCoder Please discuss this later with Vanessa and Calinou 14:03 Mika_R vanessa said she got the mod to work in singleplayer 14:03 OldCoder The question is why it doesn't work for you 14:03 OldCoder Which client are you using? 14:03 Mika_R 0.4.3 14:03 OldCoder Which OS? And where did you download it? 14:04 Mika_R guess it's xubuntu 12.04, somehow managed to compile it via terminal 14:04 OldCoder Oh 14:04 OldCoder Client is probably bad 14:04 OldCoder I can try to build it for you 14:04 Mika_R oldcoder, what is the terminal command to pull new updates? haven't updated any since i got it 14:05 OldCoder Mika_R, Pull new update for MT and MT game? 14:05 Mika_R yes 14:05 OldCoder When did you do this before? 14:06 OldCoder Mika_R, I will provide commands 14:06 Mika_R never updated, i compiled when 0.4.3 came 14:06 OldCoder You used early git sources? 14:06 OldCoder Wait 14:06 OldCoder Mika_R, give me a few minutes 14:06 OldCoder We will start over 14:06 Mika_R ok 14:09 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder stable update out 14:11 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder, Hope you have fun with it :) 14:17 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, k 14:17 OldCoder Mika_R, ready to start 14:17 OldCoder Present? 14:17 Mika_R yes 14:17 OldCoder k 14:18 OldCoder 1. Rename or delete your $HOME/.minetest folder 14:18 OldCoder Indicate when done 14:18 OldCoder If this works BTW 14:18 OldCoder I'd like a copy of the resulting program 14:18 Mika_R done 14:19 OldCoder 2. mkdir minedev && cd minedev 14:19 OldCoder Done? 14:19 Mika_R im there 14:19 OldCoder 3. sudo apt-get -y update 14:19 OldCoder sudo apt-get -y upgrade 14:19 OldCoder ? 14:21 Mika_R done 14:21 OldCoder 14:21 OldCoder Some of the following is nonessential for you. Do it regardless. It may update things and is also needed for others who may read this chat. 14:21 OldCoder 14:21 OldCoder 4: 14:22 OldCoder sudo apt-get -y install build-essential 14:22 OldCoder gcc --version 14:22 OldCoder ? 14:23 Mika_R done so far 14:23 OldCoder 14:23 OldCoder 5: 14:23 OldCoder Wait 14:25 OldCoder Wait 14:25 OldCoder Problem with copy and paste 14:26 OldCoder sudo apt-get -y install xserver-xorg-dev x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev libxxf86vm-dev mesa-common-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libglu1-mesa-dev libxext-dev libxcursor-dev 14:26 OldCoder 14:26 OldCoder ? 14:28 Mika_R done 14:28 OldCoder sudo apt-get -y install cmake git joe nano zip unrar-free libopenal-dev libalut-dev libvorbis-dev libjpeg62-dev libbz2-dev libpng-dev sqlite3 14:28 OldCoder ? 14:29 OldCoder That was 6: BTW 14:30 OldCoder 14:30 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, can you make the Phoenix typo fix? 14:30 OldCoder I have mentioned it before 14:30 Mika_R done 14:30 OldCoder REVIVE_MSG = "Like a Phoenix %s rises from the ashes" 14:30 OldCoder TheRedMood, while you are at it that file is missing a trailing newline 14:30 OldCoder 14:30 OldCoder Mika_R, 7: 14:31 OldCoder We will skip a webserver I usually add here 14:31 OldCoder 14:31 OldCoder 8: 14:31 OldCoder Mika_R, Did you build Irrlicht 1.7.3 ? 14:31 Mika_R no 14:31 OldCoder Where did you get Irrlicht? 14:31 Mika_R wait 14:32 Mika_R not sure 14:32 Mika_R i've seen it but don't recall where 14:32 OldCoder Don't know 14:32 OldCoder ? 14:32 OldCoder dpkg -l | grep -i irrlicht 14:32 OldCoder Does that show anything? 14:32 Mika_R yes 14:33 OldCoder What? 14:33 Mika_R -dev and 7a 14:33 OldCoder Can you paste the lines? 14:33 Mika_R ii libirrlicht-dev 1.7.2+dfsg1-1.1 High performance realtime 3D engine development library 14:33 Mika_R ii libirrlicht1.7a 1.7.2+dfsg1-1.1 High performance realtime 14:33 OldCoder We will skip building Irrlicht ATM 14:33 OldCoder 14:33 OldCoder 9: 14:34 OldCoder git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git 14:34 OldCoder ? 14:34 Mika_R WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-gYJVQo/pkcs11: No such file or directory ?? 14:35 OldCoder Can't help you with that 14:35 OldCoder Did it clone? 14:35 Mika_R ok, it loads now 14:35 OldCoder Indicate when done 14:35 Mika_R done 14:36 OldCoder Mika_R, we are going to build a new copy in a specified directory tree 14:36 OldCoder 14:36 Mika_R ok 14:36 OldCoder PREFIX=/opt/minetest043 14:36 OldCoder sudo mkdir -p $PREFIX 14:36 OldCoder ? 14:37 Mika_R done 14:37 OldCoder cd minetest-git 14:37 OldCoder cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$PREFIX -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 . 14:37 OldCoder Note the period at the end 14:37 OldCoder ? 14:38 Mika_R bash: cd: minetest-git: No such file or directory 14:38 OldCoder ls 14:38 OldCoder What does ls show you? 14:38 OldCoder PilzAdam, hi 14:38 Mika_R minetest 14:38 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:38 OldCoder Mika_R, O.K. 14:38 OldCoder cd minetest instead 14:38 OldCoder Then the cmake command 14:38 OldCoder Note the period at the end 14:40 Mika_R done 14:40 thexyz there's no need in dot when you specify build options 14:40 thexyz at least, it works fine for me 14:40 OldCoder thexyz, ok 14:40 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:40 OldCoder make 14:40 OldCoder Pour coffee and wait :-) 14:40 OldCoder Indicate when done 14:40 thexyz -j8 14:40 OldCoder Ha 14:40 thexyz or something 14:40 OldCoder Mika_R, how many CPUs do you have? 14:40 OldCoder Wait 14:40 OldCoder Mika_R, how many CPUs do you have? 14:41 Mika_R 2 14:41 OldCoder thexyz, CPUs + 1 ? 14:41 OldCoder 14:41 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:41 thexyz grep model /proc/cpuinfo 14:41 OldCoder ^ 14:41 OldCoder Hell 14:41 OldCoder Just use -j2 14:41 OldCoder 14:41 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:41 OldCoder make -j2 14:41 OldCoder Proceed 14:42 Mika_R i think i once made just -j and the computer clock stopped 5 min 14:42 OldCoder If you wish safe 14:42 thexyz because you should not use -j 14:42 OldCoder make 14:42 thexyz without number 14:42 OldCoder Oh? 14:42 OldCoder What is default? 14:42 thexyz so, -j2 or -j4 should be fine 14:42 OldCoder Regardless 14:42 OldCoder Mika_R, use 14:43 OldCoder make -j2 14:43 OldCoder or 14:43 thexyz default is "make my pc laggy as shit" 14:43 OldCoder make -j4 14:43 OldCoder Heh 14:43 OldCoder Let's go 14:43 OldCoder 14:43 OldCoder make -j2 14:43 Mika_R used -j2 14:43 OldCoder k 14:43 OldCoder Indicate when done 14:43 Mika_R build at 62% 14:43 OldCoder Fat 14:43 OldCoder Fast 14:43 OldCoder * 14:44 OldCoder Mika_R, BTW You will be able to run a server if you wish 14:44 Mika_R oldcoder, where do you copy from or memorized? 14:44 OldCoder We are building both client or server 14:44 OldCoder Mika_R, My own documents 14:44 OldCoder Which will go on the Web 14:44 OldCoder When they are ready 14:44 Mika_R ok 14:44 TheRedMoodWin This build system is bad. 14:44 TheRedMoodWin :/ 14:44 * OldCoder shrugs 14:45 TheRedMoodWin You disagree, sir? 14:45 OldCoder Mika_R, Your own server will be fun 14:45 OldCoder No 14:45 OldCoder I have no strong opinion 14:45 OldCoder I maintain... 14:45 OldCoder about 2,000 packages 14:45 OldCoder I see all types of builds 14:45 thexyz TheRedMoodWin: why? 14:45 TheRedMoodWin nice :) 14:45 Mika_R done 14:45 OldCoder Mika_R, Whoa!! 14:45 OldCoder Mika_R, Nice fast machine? 14:45 OldCoder 14:45 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:45 OldCoder sudo make install 14:45 TheRedMoodWin Well, even the linux kernel got a simpler build procedure than this 14:45 Mika_R its the power of 939 soclet 14:46 OldCoder k 14:46 OldCoder Done? 14:46 Mika_R done 14:46 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:46 OldCoder sudo strip $PREFIX/bin/* 14:46 OldCoder Done? 14:46 TheRedMoodWin What is the GHz on the CPU? 14:46 Mika_R done 14:46 OldCoder Mika_R, I have some gifts for you. Wait a moment. 14:47 Mika_R 2,4 ghz dual core 14:47 TheRedMoodWin Nice :) 14:47 TheRedMoodWin I have 3.4 GHZ quad core 14:47 TheRedMoodWin Its an i5 14:47 OldCoder Good Grief 14:47 TheRedMoodWin But that is on my good machine 14:47 OldCoder I remember when 14:47 OldCoder PC-XT was Super Machine 14:47 TheRedMoodWin The only one I have bought 14:47 OldCoder Mika_R, one moment. Gifts for you are coming. 14:47 Mika_R the guy at the computer store laughed at me when i was looking for a 939 socket cpu and a AGP GPU 14:47 OldCoder Why? 14:48 TheRedMoodWin I have an old compaq m77 14:48 Mika_R old technology 14:48 TheRedMoodWin Well, I like old hardawre 14:48 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:48 TheRedMoodWin Makes good code important 14:48 OldCoder cd $PREFIX/share/minetest 14:48 OldCoder Done? 14:49 thexyz for me minetest builds in 16 seconds ^^ 14:49 OldCoder Mika_R, ^ 14:49 Mika_R done 14:49 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:49 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:49 OldCoder rm -f minetest.conf 14:49 OldCoder wget http://minetest.org/minetest.conf 14:49 OldCoder Done? 14:49 OldCoder Wait 14:49 OldCoder Sorry 14:49 OldCoder 14:50 OldCoder IW a (Modified) Row 2 Col 6 2:50 Ctrl-K H for help 14:50 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:50 OldCoder sudo rm -f minetest.conf 14:50 OldCoder sudo wget http://minetest.org/minetest.conf 14:50 OldCoder Done? 14:51 Mika_R done 14:51 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:51 OldCoder cd $PREFIX/share/minetest/games 14:51 OldCoder ? 14:52 Mika_R done 14:52 thexyz sudo? wtf? 14:52 OldCoder sudo rm -fr minetest_game 14:52 OldCoder sudo wget http://minetest.org/minegame.zip 14:52 OldCoder sudo unzip -q minegame.zip 14:53 OldCoder thexyz, I am trying to make this work for everybody 14:53 thexyz everybody, huh? 14:53 OldCoder Mika_R, indicate when done 14:53 thexyz some people may not have sudo 14:53 OldCoder Yep 14:53 OldCoder thexyz, Allow us to finish. You can edit my documents later. 14:53 OldCoder thexyz, for this procedure root is assumed 14:54 OldCoder This is not a run in place build 14:54 TheRedMoodWin He is making the point 14:54 thexyz for not run in place build it's better to use checkinstall 14:54 thexyz or whatever 14:54 TheRedMoodWin That sudo is an additional program 14:54 OldCoder thexyz, TheRedMoodWin: I know all that 14:54 TheRedMoodWin X3 14:54 OldCoder And I spent 12 to 16 hours on MT yesterday 14:54 TheRedMoodWin Linux Geeks unite 14:54 TheRedMoodWin :) 14:54 OldCoder I cannot do so ATM 14:54 OldCoder so let us finish 14:54 OldCoder Mika_R, ? 14:55 OldCoder Calinou, wb 14:55 Calinou hi 14:55 OldCoder Calinou, your world is up but the player files are corrupted 14:55 OldCoder Calinou, I will need to add the old players one by one 14:55 Calinou O_o 14:55 OldCoder As they make the server crash 14:55 Calinou meh, feel free not to do that 14:55 OldCoder Calinou, your world is on port 30003 14:55 OldCoder Ffine 14:55 OldCoder *Fine 14:55 OldCoder It looks very nice 14:55 Mika_R oldcoder, done 14:55 OldCoder But occasionally crashes the server 14:56 Calinou I can give items back as compensation :P 14:56 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:56 OldCoder Calinou, Yes 14:56 OldCoder Calinou, join and I will op you 14:56 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:56 OldCoder One moment 14:57 OldCoder sudo rm minegame.zip 14:57 OldCoder sudo chown -R 0.0 $PREFIX 14:57 OldCoder sudo chmod 755 `find $PREFIX -type d` 14:57 OldCoder ? 14:57 * Calinou just died in minecraft with 95 levels and diamond tools in lava 14:57 Calinou :| 14:57 Jordach Calinou, BITCH 14:57 OldCoder ? 14:58 Calinou heh, I'm not even caring, I have fucktons of resources and I get these levels back easily using jobs plugin 14:58 Calinou gotta like weaponsmith job which can be easily exploited 14:58 Calinou 30 levels by crafting 40 stone swords :> 14:58 TheRedMoodWin Can i kick him now? 14:58 Calinou no u 14:58 TheRedMoodWin in the face 14:58 TheRedMoodWin ? 14:58 TheRedMoodWin :D 14:58 OldCoder Mika_R, indicate when done 14:58 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder I ask for permission to kick Calinou in the face 14:58 TheRedMoodWin :D 14:58 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, It is none of my concern 14:59 TheRedMoodWin :( 14:59 * TheRedMoodWin hears the DENIED sound ring trough his head 14:59 TheRedMoodWin T_T 14:59 Mika_R find: `/opt/minetest043/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/pilzclouds': Permission denied 14:59 OldCoder Mika_R: 14:59 OldCoder sudo chmod 755 `find $PREFIX -type d` 14:59 OldCoder Do that first 15:00 OldCoder I probably had the lines out of order 15:00 * Jordach plays Battlefield for Free 15:00 Mika_R done 15:01 OldCoder Mika_R, now the fun part: 15:01 OldCoder /opt/minetest043/bin/minetest & 15:01 OldCoder What happens? 15:01 thexyz Jordach: who cares? 15:01 TheRedMoodWin I care :D 15:01 OldCoder Dare to Care 15:01 OldCoder :-) 15:02 TheRedMoodWin :) 15:02 Mika_R nothing 15:02 TheRedMoodWin There woulden't happen to be someone who is willing to help me out with german homework here? 15:02 TheRedMoodWin I have big trouble remembering the information 15:02 OldCoder Mika_R: What happens exactly? 15:03 OldCoder In the CLI window? 15:03 Mika_R nothing happened 15:03 OldCoder That is unlikely. Do this: 15:03 OldCoder /opt/minetest043/bin/minetest >& /tmp/mine.log 15:03 OldCoder No & 15:03 OldCoder What happens? 15:04 OldCoder By No & 15:04 OldCoder I mean none at the end 15:04 OldCoder >& is needed 15:05 Mika_R again nothing 15:05 Mika_R sudo or cd in front? 15:05 OldCoder Now do list 15:05 OldCoder No 15:05 OldCoder ls -l /tmp/mine.log 15:05 OldCoder Show us the output line 15:07 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, can you patch the Phoenix typo? 15:07 OldCoder Also add a newline to that file 15:07 OldCoder The end doesn't have one 15:07 OldCoder Mika_R, ? 15:07 Mika_R which folder am i supposed to be in, seems like it throw me out 15:07 OldCoder Mika_R, explain 15:07 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder I belive I have? 15:07 OldCoder Folder does not matter 15:07 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, nope 15:07 OldCoder I pulled stable 15:07 OldCoder Still there 15:08 TheRedMoodWin Tell me what it is then? 15:08 OldCoder Minute 15:08 Mika_R im here 15:08 OldCoder Mika_R, Minute 15:08 OldCoder 15:08 TheRedMoodWin Ohh 15:08 TheRedMoodWin The E 15:08 OldCoder Mika_R, what does the ls -l line show? 15:08 TheRedMoodWin Sorry Will be done right now 15:08 OldCoder ls -l /tmp/mine.log 15:08 OldCoder ? 15:08 TheRedMoodWin Now pull 15:08 TheRedMoodWin And it is done 15:08 * OldCoder sighs 15:08 OldCoder Sure it is 15:08 OldCoder :P 15:09 TheRedMoodWin X3 15:09 Calinou there, level 30 reached 15:09 Mika_R with ls -l i now found minetest_game and minimal 15:09 TheRedMoodWin Something I touch is never going to be done 15:09 OldCoder Mika_R, No 15:09 OldCoder 15:09 OldCoder Mika_R: 15:09 OldCoder ls -l /tmp/mine.log 15:09 OldCoder What does that line show? 15:09 OldCoder Exactly? 15:09 OldCoder One line of output 15:09 Mika_R ls: cannot access /tmp/mine.log: No such file or directory 15:10 OldCoder Mika_R, You did not do the command I said before. Wait. 15:10 OldCoder /opt/minetest043/bin/minetest >& /tmp/mine.log 15:10 PilzAdam OWNSyouAll, not me 15:10 OldCoder Mika_R, Do that line exactly 15:10 Mika_R opened the game 15:10 OldCoder Try it 15:10 OldCoder Local and multiplayer both 15:11 OldCoder You have all the mods BTW 15:11 OldCoder And music 15:11 Mika_R loading media, 2% 15:11 OldCoder Fine 15:11 Mika_R brb 15:11 TheRedMoodWin see 15:11 TheRedMoodWin That was a good long make setup :D 15:13 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, add a newline to that file 15:14 TheRedMoodWin done 15:14 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I think I will turn careLetters off 15:14 OldCoder It is nice 15:14 OldCoder not to worry about case 15:14 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, a typo for you: 15:15 OldCoder -- msg privleges 15:15 OldCoder Fix that throughout your file 15:15 TheRedMoodWin okey 15:16 OldCoder MOTD = "Welcome to Minetest %s!" 15:16 OldCoder Suggested default MOTD ^ 15:16 TheRedMoodWin No. 15:16 TheRedMoodWin I added the default MOTD message 15:16 OldCoder As you wish 15:16 OldCoder ? 15:16 OldCoder MOTD = "Welcome to Minetest %s!" 15:16 OldCoder What is wrong? 15:16 TheRedMoodWin To alert server owners that thre is an option 15:16 OldCoder As you wish 15:16 Mika_R im back and it seems to be working, is it the same textures as on europe? 15:17 TheRedMoodWin :) 15:17 OldCoder Mika_R, should be 15:17 OldCoder Mika_R, I will be updating this periodically 15:17 TheRedMoodWin I think you could make a patch file for that OldCoder 15:17 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, sure 15:17 OldCoder Mika_R, have fun 15:17 TheRedMoodWin So that it just changes it every time 15:17 OldCoder Mika_R, we will finish now 15:17 OldCoder Mika_R, exit the game 15:17 OldCoder Mika_R, do this: 15:17 Mika_R ok, had a texture pack on the previous so didn't recognize 15:17 OldCoder sudo rm -fr /usr/local/*minetest* 15:18 OldCoder sudo rm -fr /usr/local/*/*minetest* 15:18 OldCoder sudo rm -fr /usr/*/*minetest* 15:18 OldCoder Done? 15:18 TheRedMoodWin Okey 15:18 TheRedMoodWin NOW THEN? 15:18 OldCoder ? 15:18 TheRedMoodWin are you pleased now OldCoder x3 15:18 OldCoder Mika_R, you didn't remove the .minetest folder? 15:18 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, of course 15:18 Mika_R the old game? 15:19 OldCoder Mika_R, never mind 15:19 OldCoder Do the final rm -fr commands above 15:19 OldCoder Check them first!!! 15:19 OldCoder Or system will be destroyed 15:19 Mika_R ? 15:19 OldCoder NekoGloop, wb 15:19 NekoGloop Meow :3 15:19 OldCoder Do the final rm -fr commands above 15:19 OldCoder Meow! 15:19 TheRedMoodWin Neko! 15:19 TheRedMoodWin So you are a cat! 15:19 NekoGloop Ohai :3 15:19 TheRedMoodWin :D 15:19 OldCoder sudo rm -fr /usr/local/*minetest* 15:19 OldCoder sudo rm -fr /usr/local/*/*minetest* 15:19 OldCoder sudo rm -fr /usr/*/*minetest* 15:19 OldCoder Done? 15:19 Mika_R check them first you said 15:19 OldCoder Mika_R, ? 15:19 NekoGloop I am nekoshounen :3 15:19 OldCoder Don't make typos 15:19 * TheRedMoodWin interpits that as a cat :D 15:20 OldCoder catboy 15:20 * TheRedMoodWin still interpits that as cat 15:20 NekoGloop I am a boy with cat tail, claws, and ears, as well as instincts of a cat :3 15:20 TheRedMoodWin So you are a cat :D 15:20 OldCoder In a sense 15:20 NekoGloop Remember the image VanessaE showed us? 15:20 OldCoder A variety of cat 15:21 thexyz NekoGloop: what the fuck, have you tried visiting doctor? 15:21 OldCoder Mika_R, done? 15:21 OldCoder There is one final step? 15:21 NekoGloop thexyz: Haha. 15:21 TheRedMoodWin So... 15:21 TheRedMoodWin you are a ..... 15:21 Calinou you mean -rf? people always never say -fr :p 15:21 * TheRedMoodWin thinks really hard 15:21 Calinou these do the same things I know 15:21 OldCoder Calinou, I have used -fr for 35 years 15:21 OldCoder Not about to change now 15:21 NekoGloop The only irl one of those things is the instincts part. For purposes here, i am a catboy. 15:21 Mika_R done the 3 commands 15:21 Calinou linux didn't exist 35 years ago 15:22 TheRedMoodWin you are....... 15:22 OldCoder Calinou, so? 15:22 TheRedMoodWin Old BSD 15:22 TheRedMoodWin PDP-11 15:22 OldCoder Before that 15:22 TheRedMoodWin I remember using that command :) 15:22 OldCoder I started with V6 UNIX 15:22 Calinou BSD was created after 77, no? 15:22 TheRedMoodWin Ohh PDP-11 15:22 OldCoder Yes 15:22 TheRedMoodWin The beauty of a system 15:22 OldCoder Calinou, I was at B when they added the SD 15:22 OldCoder :-) 15:22 OldCoder There are some of my fortunes in the Fortunes File 15:22 Calinou you mean L? 15:22 Calinou :P 15:22 OldCoder ? 15:23 TheRedMoodWin NekoGloop, so you are .... 15:23 OldCoder I knew people who did LSD if that's what you mean 15:23 TheRedMoodWin NekoGloop, a CAT! 15:23 OldCoder We focused more on BSD 15:23 TheRedMoodWin :D 15:23 OldCoder Mika_R, ? 15:23 OldCoder Mika_R, I'd like to finish this 15:23 Mika_R yes 15:23 OldCoder Mika_R, Done? 15:23 NekoGloop TheRedMoodWin: A catboy. 15:23 Mika_R with the 3 commands yes 15:23 TheRedMoodWin :S 15:23 OldCoder Mika_R, cd $HOME 15:23 OldCoder ls 15:23 OldCoder If the old 15:23 Mika_R im home 15:23 OldCoder MT folder you used months ago 15:24 * TheRedMoodWin doesn't get the consept of being a cat and not being a cat at the same time 15:24 OldCoder is still there 15:24 OldCoder You can delete it 15:24 OldCoder I mean the old sources 15:24 OldCoder Mika_R, now for the final step 15:24 Calinou OldCoder: server IP of my world? 15:24 TheRedMoodWin unless it is quantum mechanics 15:24 Calinou so that I can edit the domain 15:24 TheRedMoodWin We could do that 15:24 OldCoder Calinou, minetest.org 15:24 OldCoder port 30003 15:24 TheRedMoodWin But then you are schrödingers cat! 15:24 TheRedMoodWin :D 15:24 Calinou I said IP 15:24 OldCoder Mika_R, what is your favorite editor? 15:24 TheRedMoodWin NekoGloop, Is that correct? 15:24 TheRedMoodWin vi 15:24 Mika_R editor? 15:24 OldCoder Calinou, do you need IP? It may change. Use minetest.org 15:25 OldCoder Mika_R, text editor 15:25 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder vi 15:25 Calinou yes, so that I can change calin.sytes.net 15:25 OldCoder Calinou, game accepts hostnames 15:25 thexyz why not vim? 15:25 Calinou TheRedMoodWin: lolvi(m) 15:25 OldCoder Calinou, put down minetest.org 15:25 Calinou nano > all 15:25 Calinou OldCoder: talking about domain stuff 15:25 Calinou so that people can connect with calin.sytes.net 15:25 OldCoder Mika_R, what is your preferred editor? 15:25 Mika_R only one i've used here is leafpad 15:25 thexyz or emacs 15:25 thexyz are there any other editors? 15:25 NekoGloop I am what? 15:26 NekoGloop TheRedMoodWin: Wut? 15:26 OldCoder Calinou, I am not following. Server is not IP address and that may change. Domain and host and server are all minetest.org 15:26 OldCoder Try it 15:26 OldCoder It works in MT 15:26 OldCoder Mika_R, then... 15:26 OldCoder Mika_R, sudo leafpad /usr/local/bin/minetest 15:26 OldCoder Ready? 15:26 TheRedMoodWin because some of the old systems don't have vi 15:26 TheRedMoodWin I use vim when i can 15:26 Calinou a computer connected to the internet always has a public IP address; I need it so that I can redirect calin.sytes.net to the server's _IP_ 15:26 Calinou not _domain_ 15:26 Calinou OldCoder: gksudo 15:26 OldCoder Calinou, Fine 15:26 Calinou don't use sudo for GUI applications 15:26 TheRedMoodWin But to indicate the flexebility I said vi 15:26 TheRedMoodWin NekoGloop, You are a cat then :D 15:27 Calinou use gksudo if you use gnome, xfce, lxde, kdesudo for kde 15:27 OldCoder Calinou 54.245.97.197 for now but it may change 15:27 Mika_R done 15:27 OldCoder Mika_R, add this: 15:27 Calinou k OldCoder 15:27 NekoGloop TheRedMoodWin: A catboy! Look on google images :ap 15:27 NekoGloop :P* 15:27 TheRedMoodWin :S 15:27 OldCoder #!/bin/sh 15:27 OldCoder /opt/minetest043/bin/minetest $* & 15:27 TheRedMoodWin Why are you so mean to me :( 15:27 thexyz Calinou: nslookup minetest.org 15:27 OldCoder Mika_R, save the file 15:27 OldCoder Done? 15:27 NekoGloop I'm not mean to you. 15:28 TheRedMoodWin Yes you are 15:28 TheRedMoodWin You are making my head hurt :S 15:28 NekoGloop Then stop being incorrect. :3 15:28 TheRedMoodWin But 15:28 TheRedMoodWin But 15:28 Mika_R saved 15:28 OldCoder Mika_R, last command: 15:28 OldCoder sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/minetest 15:28 OldCoder Done? 15:29 * TheRedMoodWin doesn't have the mental capacity of understanding being both cat and not cat at the same time 15:29 TheRedMoodWin :( 15:29 TheRedMoodWin Then you are not a cat. 15:29 Mika_R done 15:29 OldCoder Mika_R, enter: minetest 15:29 OldCoder What happens? 15:30 TheRedMoodWin error 15:30 TheRedMoodWin X3 15:30 TheRedMoodWin That would have been so fun :D 15:30 thexyz TheRedMoodWin: because he's neko, not cat 15:30 thexyz see the difference http://neko.jpg.to/ http://cat.jpg.to/ 15:30 Mika_R command not found 15:30 OldCoder Mika_R, Did you do the chmod? 15:30 Mika_R yes, now i got the game open 15:31 TheRedMoodWin I see no diffrence 15:31 OldCoder Mika_R, have fun 15:31 Mika_R i wrote the enter: part 15:31 TheRedMoodWin :( 15:31 Calinou OldCoder: domain works 15:31 NekoGloop thexyz: I am a nekoshounen :P 15:31 Calinou calin.sytes.net port 30003 15:31 OldCoder Mika_R, do this for me when you can. Make a ZIP file of your /opt/minetest043 folder. Put it somewhere for me. 15:31 OldCoder Calinou, k 15:31 Calinou thexyz: please change the IP of server on servers.minetest.ru 15:31 OldCoder Calinou, I am busy today. Join and I will op you. 15:31 Calinou to port 30003, same domain 15:31 Calinou joining 15:32 OldCoder thexyz, if you wish you can track the other servers listed on http://minetest.org/ 15:32 OldCoder Not port 30001 yet 15:32 Mika_R FATAL ERROR 15:32 OldCoder Mika_R, what happened? 15:32 Mika_R it loaded the media from europe server and some jpegs were wrong 15:33 OldCoder Mika_R, Exit and delete the .minetest folder 15:33 OldCoder Which is what I told you to do to begin with 15:33 Mika_R ok 15:33 NekoGloop Exit and delete the .minecraft folder 15:33 OldCoder You need to start over with a fresh cache 15:33 * NekoGloop runs 15:33 OldCoder cd $HOME && rm -fr .minetest 15:33 OldCoder Don't forget the period 15:33 OldCoder Oops 15:34 OldCoder the .minetest folder 15:34 OldCoder Mika_R, ^ 15:34 OldCoder 15:34 OldCoder Calinou, your world crashes periodically. But it restarts automatically. 15:35 OldCoder Calinou, when the world crashes or I shut down for backup, players will lock up. They should wait 90 seconds and then exit and reenter. 15:35 Mika_R i deleted the old directory 15:35 OldCoder Mika_R, try again 15:35 Mika_R loading media 15:35 OldCoder It will load lowly 15:35 OldCoder *slowly 15:35 OldCoder But fast in the future 15:36 Mika_R so they tend to do 15:36 OldCoder 15:36 OldCoder Calinou, I can make any modset you wish easily. Just list the mods you want and don't. 15:36 OldCoder There are only a few exceptions 15:37 OldCoder For example sdzen whisper is replaced by TheRedMoodWin redsand 15:37 OldCoder 15:37 Calinou OldCoder: make a new minetest installation with just my mods 15:37 Calinou you can remove whisper, yes 15:37 OldCoder Calinou, would you like to do /mods and select exactly what you wish? 15:38 Calinou thexyz: removed menche's server, freebuild and zenoheld the backstab, these are all down permanently 15:38 Calinou OldCoder: the list is too long; just copy your current minetest insallation somewhere else, rm -rf mods 15:38 Mika_R Calinou, is moreblocks your work? 15:38 Calinou and keep the worldmods folder in the world folder 15:38 Calinou Mika_R: yes 15:39 OldCoder Calinou, it doesn't work like that. I'll make you a reduced set. 15:39 OldCoder Working on it now 15:39 Calinou moreblocks moreores maptools stairsplus xdoors2 technic mesecons pipeworks farming protector woolcraft 15:39 OldCoder yes 15:40 Mika_R Still it errors 15:40 Calinou note that I used farming version 3, not the latest version which is quite borked 15:40 thexyz Calinou: >Any server with uptime < 40% will not be shown on list. 15:40 OldCoder I'm listing the worldmods folder 15:40 Calinou thexyz: still, menche's server is dead 15:40 OldCoder Calinou, do you want node_protect ? 15:40 Calinou I use protector 15:40 Calinou the mod by glomie 15:40 OldCoder Fine 15:40 OldCoder But you can have both 15:40 OldCoder Working 15:40 Calinou meh, no need 15:40 Calinou also the fixed spawn point is 0,8,0 15:41 OldCoder I added that 15:41 OldCoder Should be there 15:42 OldCoder Working on Calinou modset 15:42 Mika_R oldcoder, now when i read a bit of the error the line is "wrong JPEG library version: library is 62, caller expects 80 15:42 OldCoder 15:42 OldCoder Mika_R, when did this error occur? 15:42 Mika_R it's the same as before i deleted the old game 15:42 TheRedMoodWin Well 15:43 OldCoder Mika_R, when did this error occur? 15:43 TheRedMoodWin Are there any mods that deals with kits yet? 15:43 TheRedMoodWin Because in the next version kits will be included 15:43 Mika_R oldcoder, during the time it loads media 15:44 OldCoder This did not happen the first time? 15:44 Mika_R 2nd time, ill scroll terminal 15:44 OldCoder We may need to rebuild Irrlicht 15:44 TheRedMoodWin :) 15:44 OldCoder Anybody else have comments? 15:45 TheRedMoodWin Are there any mods deal with kits? 15:45 TheRedMoodWin And are there any mods that deals in the same area as mine 15:45 Mika_R 2 times, both times i logged in to the europe server 15:45 OldCoder Anybody else have comments? 15:45 TheRedMoodWin That have not been activly maintained for a while 15:45 OldCoder Wait 15:45 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder i had 2 15:45 TheRedMoodWin :D 15:45 OldCoder ? 15:45 TheRedMoodWin 1. in your current mod list are there any dealing with kits 15:46 TheRedMoodWin 2. Also are there anyone who is not currently developed that deals in the same area as my mod? 15:46 OldCoder Mika_R, we may need to rebuild Irrlicht. What is your schedule? 15:46 TheRedMoodWin Those are the 2 comments OldCoder :D 15:46 OldCoder Fine 15:46 Mika_R oldcoder, got time 15:47 OldCoder Not me :-) But I can try 15:47 OldCoder Wait 15:47 OldCoder Shutting down U.S. worlds for updates and also to make a Calinou modset 15:47 TheRedMoodWin Could you make a list of all the mods 15:48 OldCoder I already have 15:48 TheRedMoodWin So I can take a look at them? 15:48 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 15:48 TheRedMoodWin Ohh? 15:48 TheRedMoodWin Is that all the mods? 15:48 OldCoder I will put my versions online 15:48 OldCoder No 15:48 OldCoder My modsets 15:48 TheRedMoodWin okey 15:48 thexyz Mika_R: what's your OS? 15:48 TheRedMoodWin Anyone of them you know is unmaintained? 15:48 OldCoder xubuntu 15:48 Mika_R xubuntu 12-04 15:48 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, some 15:48 OldCoder Bookmarks for example 15:48 TheRedMoodWin is cornernotes maintained? 15:49 TheRedMoodWin Wait 15:49 TheRedMoodWin I read wrong 15:49 TheRedMoodWin Those ar not in my current domain 15:50 OldCoder Calinou, restarted with just the desired mods. If your world continues to crash we will downgrade to the old versions as you wish. 15:50 TheRedMoodWin Well going to make a forum post about my mods now :D 15:50 OldCoder U.S. worlds restarted 15:50 OldCoder Mika_R, wait 15:50 TheRedMoodWin my mod* 15:50 thexyz Mika_R: do something like dpkg -l | grep -i libjpeg 15:51 thexyz pastebin output 15:51 Mika_R ii libjpeg-progs 8c-2ubuntu7 Programs for manipulating JPEG files (dependency package) 15:51 Mika_R ii libjpeg-turbo-progs 1.1.90+svn733-0ubuntu4.1 Programs for manipulating JPEG files 15:51 Mika_R ii libjpeg-turbo8 1.1.90+svn733-0ubuntu4.1 IJG JPEG compliant runtime library. 15:51 Mika_R ii libjpeg62 6b1-2ubuntu1 Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library (version 6.2) 15:51 Mika_R ii libjpeg62-dev 6b1-2ubuntu1 Development files for the IJG JPEG library (version 6.2) 15:52 Mika_R ii libjpeg8 8c-2ubuntu7 Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library (dependency package) 15:52 OldCoder Two versions of JPEG library 15:52 OldCoder Removing 62 and rebuilding MT should work 15:53 Mika_R rebuilding MT? 15:53 OldCoder sudo apt-get remove libjpeg62-dev 15:53 TheRedMoodWin Wjat 15:53 OldCoder No big deal 15:53 OldCoder Just part of it 15:53 OldCoder Mika_R, try that: 15:53 OldCoder sudo apt-get remove libjpeg62-dev 15:53 TheRedMoodWin I cant make a new topic 15:53 TheRedMoodWin :( 15:53 TheRedMoodWin Why can't i make a new topic on the forum? 15:53 Mika_R its removed 15:53 OldCoder sudo apt-get remove libjpeg62 15:54 OldCoder Now that 15:54 thexyz OldCoder: it's not minetest's error 15:54 Mika_R done 15:54 thexyz but irrlicht's 15:54 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder I can't make a new topic in mod releases 15:54 OldCoder thexyz, yes 15:54 OldCoder thexyz, but should he use jpeg 6.2 or 8? 15:54 OldCoder We will rebuild Irrlicht 15:55 TheRedMoodWin No answer... 15:55 OldCoder Mika_R, try this 15:55 OldCoder sudo apt-get install libjpeg8-dev 15:55 OldCoder Works? 15:55 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE, are you here? 15:56 Mika_R started to load 15:56 Mika_R done 15:56 OldCoder what started to load? 15:56 TheRedMoodWin okey 15:56 Mika_R it downloaded some files 15:56 OldCoder what started to load? 15:56 TheRedMoodWin Well is there a channel for the forums? 15:56 OldCoder What is happening? 15:56 thexyz OldCoder: there's no need in rebuilding irrlicht 15:56 OldCoder thexyz, speak then 15:56 thexyz it should just work 15:56 TheRedMoodWin Because I need to know what permissions I need to post a topic in the mod release forum 15:56 thexyz (i hope) 15:57 OldCoder thexyz, if you have suggestions feel free to make them 15:57 OldCoder Mika_R, indicate when done 15:57 Mika_R done 15:57 thexyz Mika_R: does it work now? 15:57 OldCoder thexyz, stop please 15:57 OldCoder Mika_R: Do this 15:57 OldCoder cd $HOME/minedev/minetest 15:57 OldCoder Done? 15:57 Mika_R done 15:58 OldCoder make clean && make -j2 15:58 OldCoder Try that 15:58 Mika_R building 15:58 Jordach thexyz, January 19, 2038, 03:14 xyz : fix your time server for minetest.ru 15:59 thexyz Jordach: what? 15:59 Jordach go see for yourself 15:59 thexyz that topic is "sticky" 16:01 Mika_R oldcoder, done 16:01 OldCoder Mika_R: 16:01 OldCoder sudo make install 16:01 OldCoder ? 16:01 Mika_R done 16:01 OldCoder Mika_R: 16:02 OldCoder cd $HOME && minetest 16:02 OldCoder ? 16:02 TheRedMoodWin Jordach do you know why I can't post in the mod realase forum=¨ 16:02 thexyz TheRedMoodWin: because you're not moderator 16:02 Mika_R started 16:02 OldCoder Mika_R, Indicate if aborts again 16:02 Mika_R ii libjpeg-progs 8c-2ubuntu7 Programs for manipulating JPEG files (dependency package) 16:02 Mika_R ii libjpeg-turbo-progs 1.1.90+svn733-0ubuntu4.1 Programs for manipulating JPEG files 16:02 Mika_R ii libjpeg-turbo8 1.1.90+svn733-0ubuntu4.1 IJG JPEG compliant runtime library. 16:02 Mika_R ii libjpeg62 6b1-2ubuntu1 Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library (version 6.2) 16:02 Mika_R ii libjpeg62-dev 6b1-2ubuntu1 Development files for the IJG JPEG library (version 6.2) 16:03 Mika_R ii libjpeg8 8c-2ubuntu7 Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library (dependency package) 16:03 Mika_R wrong 16:03 Mika_R 19:02:40: ERROR[main]: TextureSource::buildMainAtlas(): Atlas is full, not adding more textures. 16:03 Mika_R Unsupported texture format 16:03 thexyz you should learn to use pastebin 16:03 OldCoder Mika_R, ^ 16:03 OldCoder Yes 16:03 TheRedMoodWin thexy so where am I supposed to post my mod? 16:03 Jordach mod general 16:03 TheRedMoodWin Or rather information about my mod :) 16:03 TheRedMoodWin really? 16:03 TheRedMoodWin :o 16:03 TheRedMoodWin That seems weird but okey 16:04 thexyz then you ask moderator to move it 16:04 Jordach VanessaE is a person that can help 16:05 OldCoder Mika_R, ? 16:05 Mika_R oldcoder, where can i find the minetest.conf? 16:05 OldCoder Here: 16:06 OldCoder /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/minetest.conf 16:06 OldCoder Use sudo leafpad 16:06 OldCoder to edit it 16:07 Calinou gksudo 16:07 Calinou or use sudo nano 16:07 thexyz or sudo vim 16:07 Calinou and there you can use sudo 16:07 thexyz or sudo emacs 16:07 Calinou thexyz: vim... FFS 16:07 Calinou nano is actually usable 16:08 thexyz nope 16:08 Calinou because it's a "generic" text editor, like windows notepad 16:08 OldCoder Calinou, modset replaced. Your world crashes though. If it continues we'll try the obsolete releases of the mods. 16:08 OldCoder Calinou, you have full privs now 16:08 thexyz because CTRL+O 16:08 Calinou crash log please? 16:08 thexyz not usable at all 16:08 Calinou why not usable? 16:08 OldCoder Calinou, If you mean debug.txt I usually run without it. But I'll enable it now. 16:08 Calinou using IJKL to move around in a text file isn't even correct 16:08 Mika_R would it be possible to fix that atlas is full, not adding more textures with enable_texture_atlas = 0 in the conf file? 16:08 Calinou we have arrow keys for a reason 16:08 thexyz Calinou: how the fuck am i supposed to press it? 16:08 Calinou OldCoder: server log? 16:08 OldCoder Mika_R, yes 16:09 Calinou thexyz: ctrl+o works fine for me 16:09 OldCoder Calinou, It didn't say anything. I have reset it. You will get both logs on the next crash. 16:09 thexyz Calinou: well, anyway 16:10 thexyz vim shortcuts are more fingers-friendly 16:10 Calinou use two hands to press ctrl+o... duh 16:10 Calinou you're using one hand? 16:11 Calinou or are you one handed? 16:11 Calinou :p 16:11 thexyz then what if someone is? 16:11 thexyz well, anyway 16:11 thexyz nano can't undo 16:12 OldCoder "nano, nano" 16:12 OldCoder Takes me back 16:12 OldCoder Mork 16:12 OldCoder The Orkan editor of choice 16:12 thexyz then if i need to "go to line" 16:12 TheRedMoodWin There 16:12 thexyz i should press ctrl+_ 16:12 thexyz that is, ctrl+shift+- 16:12 TheRedMoodWin Now i have posted it :D 16:12 TheRedMoodWin http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=47830#p47830 16:12 thexyz awful 16:13 thexyz awful shortcuts 16:14 Calinou no u 16:14 thexyz in vim i simply do 15G 16:14 thexyz and it jumps to 15-th line 16:14 thexyz in nano i should ctrl+shift+-, enter line number, press enter 16:15 thexyz well, anyway, i don't know anybody who'd use nano as text editor 16:15 OldCoder mrtux uses it 16:15 thexyz i mean, yes, it's ok to create empty file with it (if you don't know about touch) 16:15 FreeFull thexyz: :15 would do the same as 15G 16:15 FreeFull But has the advantage that you can see the number as you type it 16:16 rubenwardy TheRedMoodWin: /list would be better as /players 16:16 TheRedMoodWin Well 16:16 TheRedMoodWin Bye :D 16:16 OldCoder Calinou, are you on Twitter? 16:19 OldCoder Calinou, yugiohracecar7 visited. The world crashed. Nothing in debug.txt or the main log. 16:19 OldCoder Hmm 16:20 thexyz OldCoder: run "gdb minetestserver" 16:20 OldCoder I'll try resetting the map 16:20 OldCoder thexyz, ty 16:20 thexyz after compiling debug version 16:20 OldCoder Yes 16:20 OldCoder One step at a time 16:20 thexyz then "bt" after crash 16:20 OldCoder *Cannot* spend 16 hours today n thi 16:20 OldCoder Yes 16:20 thexyz have i said something about stepbystep execution? 16:20 OldCoder No 16:20 OldCoder One step at a time 16:21 OldCoder Refers to what I will do 16:22 OldCoder Error: database disk image is malformed 16:23 OldCoder Ah-HA! 16:23 OldCoder Calinou, thexyz ^ 16:23 OldCoder His DB is corrupted 16:23 OldCoder Is there a way to rebuild it without a worldedit dump of 300MB? 16:23 OldCoder this is the copy from his server 16:23 OldCoder I downloaded it twice 16:23 OldCoder And byte compared 16:24 OldCoder Maybe an export and import? 16:25 OldCoder It's corrupted 16:25 OldCoder Any ideas? 16:34 rubenwardy and there is no answer... :P 16:34 OldCoder Yep 16:34 OldCoder Too bad 16:34 OldCoder It's a nice world 16:34 Calinou the server is down now 16:34 Calinou files unavailable 16:34 Calinou I bet the world will have to be reset 16:34 Calinou :| 16:34 OldCoder Calinou, read above 16:35 OldCoder Is there any way to repair a corrupted MT DB ? 16:35 Calinou probably not 16:35 OldCoder You can worldedit 16:35 OldCoder Extract a number of the schemas 16:35 FreeFull OldCoder: You could repair by hand 16:35 OldCoder FreeFull, go on 16:35 FreeFull Depending on how it got corrupted 16:35 OldCoder It was on the server side 16:35 OldCoder Calinou, remarks? 16:35 Calinou meh 16:35 OldCoder This is a bytewise guaranteed copy 16:35 OldCoder I'll try some worldediting 16:36 OldCoder FreeFull, go on 16:36 OldCoder Calinou, want to generate a schema yourself? 16:36 FreeFull Look at minetest's source code responsible for it 16:36 OldCoder FreeFull, go on 16:36 FreeFull I don't know the exact details 16:36 OldCoder I'll worldedit 16:36 OldCoder proceeding 16:37 rubenwardy OldCoder: why do you use a cleverly designed tool to rebuild a replica? Start again :( 16:37 OldCoder rubenwardy, ? 16:37 OldCoder rubenwardy, it is a gigantic world 16:37 OldCoder Are you proposing to throw away the buildings? 16:37 OldCoder I told Calinou I would host 16:37 OldCoder Therefore I will host 16:38 OldCoder Will anybody help me with worldedit? 16:42 thexyz OldCoder: upload it. 16:42 OldCoder thexyz, upload the DB ? It is uploaded. I will put it online now if you wish. 16:42 thexyz yep 16:43 OldCoder One minute 16:43 OldCoder ZIPPing 16:45 OldCoder http://minetest.org/calinou_world.zip 16:45 OldCoder thexyz, ^ 16:45 thexyz downloading now 16:46 OldCoder It's just the sqlite file. Will add the others if you wish. 16:47 OldCoder seed = 1394848354828098307 16:47 OldCoder Is probably the most important part 16:47 thexyz well, it's corrupted 16:47 OldCoder That was fast 16:47 thexyz http://pastebin.com/eRUUVWcH 16:47 OldCoder Reviewing 16:47 OldCoder Yep 16:48 OldCoder I downloaded twice and byte compared 16:48 rubenwardy my suggestion?# 16:48 OldCoder This is guaranteed to be what was on his server 16:48 OldCoder rubenwardy, start over? 16:48 OldCoder I'm going to try worldedit 16:48 OldCoder I could use some help 16:48 rubenwardy uh huh 16:49 OldCoder And? 16:49 thexyz when was it copied? 16:49 OldCoder The other day 16:49 OldCoder Exact day was... 16:49 thexyz i mean, was minetestserver down at the moment? 16:49 OldCoder He said yes 16:49 OldCoder It was an offline copy 16:49 OldCoder Server was running 16:49 OldCoder He refused to shut it down 16:49 OldCoder But gave me a copy 16:49 OldCoder He probably made the copy 16:49 OldCoder Without shutting the server down first 16:50 OldCoder Shall I TP to the two corners 16:50 thexyz that's the problem 16:50 OldCoder and try WE? 16:50 thexyz it won't work 16:50 OldCoder No? 16:50 thexyz (i think) 16:50 OldCoder What about pieces? 16:50 thexyz http://www.sqlite.org/howtocorrupt.html 16:51 OldCoder Yep 16:51 thexyz 1.2 16:51 OldCoder Yep 16:51 OldCoder I asked him to shut down 16:51 OldCoder he said this was an offline copy 16:51 OldCoder Trying WE now 16:52 OldCoder Where should I go for one corner? 16:52 OldCoder All the buildings seem to be there 16:52 OldCoder This is a shame 16:56 OldCoder So nobody but me backs up servers? 16:56 thexyz i suggest you to .dump it 16:56 OldCoder I did 16:56 OldCoder Corrupted 16:56 thexyz then do something with huge .txt output 16:56 thexyz then restore 16:56 OldCoder Didn't work 16:56 OldCoder Corrupted 16:56 OldCoder Aborted 16:57 thexyz worked for me fine 16:57 OldCoder Oh? 16:57 OldCoder Check tail 16:57 OldCoder Says corrupted 16:57 NakedFury hello OldCoder and thexyz 16:57 OldCoder NakedFury, hi 16:57 Jordach OldCoder, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/129 16:57 OldCoder What coords should I use for WE 16:57 OldCoder Jordach, what is that? 16:57 OldCoder 16:57 OldCoder Anybody: 16:57 OldCoder What coords should I use for WE 16:57 OldCoder ? 16:57 Jordach minesplice script 16:57 OldCoder Jordach, Yes 16:57 OldCoder Will that be better than WE? 16:58 Jordach https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/112 16:58 OldCoder Reviewing 16:58 OldCoder We know what that was 16:58 OldCoder They are attempting repairs now 16:58 OldCoder What is the minesplice DL link? 16:59 OldCoder I can't find it 16:59 Jordach https://github.com/Bad-Command/minetest/blob/master/util/minesplice.py 16:59 OldCoder Reviewing 17:02 OldCoder Jordach, able to suggest usage? Usage text is aborting when I run it 17:03 OldCoder Jordach, do you or anybody else know the usage for minesplice? 17:05 thexyz well, it "repaired" from 306M to 295M file 17:05 thexyz after I deleted one duplicate block 17:05 OldCoder How did you find it? 17:06 thexyz it reported its line to me 17:06 OldCoder Which reported? 17:07 OldCoder Running minesplice 17:08 thexyz where to upload it? 17:08 OldCoder ZIP it and use http://sendspace.com/ 17:08 OldCoder Note the delete link that will be provided 17:08 OldCoder I am also trying minesplice 17:08 thexyz ok, i gzipped it 17:09 OldCoder ty 17:09 OldCoder sendspace will show you a delete link 17:09 OldCoder Make a note of it 17:12 cosarara97 Does anyone know what does minetest do when it finds 2 mods with the same name? (example: one in game folder and the other in worldmods) 17:13 khonkhortisan I've wondered about that. 17:13 khonkhortisan I haven't had any problems with it 17:14 cosarara97 Well, I want to disable bucket from worldmods without touching minetest_game 17:14 * cosarara97 is afk 17:17 * cosarara97 is here 17:17 OldCoder CTMN, wb 17:17 CTMN Hi 17:19 CTMN So what do u need help with? 17:19 CTMN On 30001 17:20 khonkhortisan both redcrab and bad_command would know how to disable bucket 17:21 CTMN Bucket at all? 17:21 cosarara97 I'd like to disable the lava bucket 17:22 cosarara97 without modifying the mod in the minetest_game folder 17:23 NakedFury if you can come up with a way to make it so items would need priviledges to be used like in MC then it would help with what you want 17:25 cosarara97 Now that I think of it... I just need to write a "bucket.disable_liquid" function 17:26 CTMN It could check if theres a variable on getting water 17:26 CTMN And ur function would toggle it 17:27 Mika_R oldcoder, how can i get own textures? 17:27 RealBadAngel hi 17:27 OldCoder Mika_R, Explain 17:27 OldCoder RealBadAngel, hi 17:27 OldCoder Mika_R, what do you mean? 17:28 OldCoder Do you mean install texture packs? 17:28 OldCoder If so 17:28 OldCoder The images go in the folder: 17:28 Mika_R oldcoder, it uses the textures there came with the pack not the ones i input in textures all folder 17:28 OldCoder Wrong folder 17:28 Mika_R ok 17:28 OldCoder Try this one: 17:28 OldCoder /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures/all 17:28 CTMN Mika_R modify the textured in games/minetest/mods/default/textures(or similar) 17:28 OldCoder Did you use that folder? 17:28 OldCoder CTMN is also correct 17:29 OldCoder It depends 17:29 RealBadAngel whats the problem? 17:29 OldCoder on what you are trying to do 17:29 CTMN My pack wont be published because of copyrights :( 17:30 CTMN RBA:Mika_R wants to install/modify his textures 17:30 Mika_R oldcoder, is there a way into that folder without terminal 17:31 OldCoder Mika_R, explain 17:31 OldCoder What do you mean? 17:31 CTMN He probably wants to get to the server 17:31 Mika_R when i open home folder, how do i navigate to opt? 17:31 RealBadAngel Mika_R, you have to put your textures in folder /texures/all 17:31 OldCoder CTMN, He is the server 17:31 OldCoder Mika_R, it is /opt 17:31 Mika_R RBA there they are 17:31 OldCoder Forward slash 17:32 Mika_R found it 17:32 OldCoder Mika_R, you may wish to do this: 17:32 RealBadAngel whats the directory tree where /textures/all is located? 17:32 OldCoder chmod 777 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures 17:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, there 17:33 Mika_R operation not permitted 17:33 OldCoder See above 17:33 OldCoder chmod 777 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures 17:33 OldCoder also 17:33 OldCoder chmod 777 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures/all 17:33 OldCoder sudo chmod 17:35 Mika_R now im confused 17:36 OldCoder 17:36 OldCoder Mika_R, do this: 17:37 OldCoder sudo chmod 777 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures/all 17:37 OldCoder sudo chmod 777 /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures 17:37 OldCoder 17:37 OldCoder Both commands 17:37 cosarara97 Done it :) (Created a mod with can live peacefully next to unmodified bucket and disables the lava bucket) 17:37 Mika_R now i have an all folder 17:39 Mika_R is there a shortcut to terminal path writing, i first went into textures folder to create folder all and then had to write all from /opt to get in to the all folder 17:39 OldCoder Mika_R, can you explain? 17:39 cosarara97 you have autocompletation pressing tab 17:39 OldCoder Mika_R, what do you mean? 17:39 Mika_R oldcoder, made the all with mkdir 17:39 cosarara97 and if you are in nautilus and press Ctrl+L, you can copy the path 17:40 OldCoder Mika_R, is there a question? 17:40 cosarara97 nautilus is the default file browser in ubuntu btw 17:40 cosarara97 Mika_R: and you can paste with Ctrl+Shft+V 17:40 Mika_R Oldcoder, the question was if there is a shorter way or am i always required to write full path to the directory i want to go into 17:41 OldCoder Mika_R, to load textures? 17:41 OldCoder Just use a script 17:41 OldCoder Or set an environment variable 17:42 Mika_R oldcoder, no just to get into a folder with terminal 17:42 OldCoder Mika_R, I do not understand 17:42 OldCoder I am sorry 17:42 OldCoder Try this 17:42 OldCoder ln -s /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures minetext 17:42 OldCoder Wait 17:42 OldCoder 17:42 OldCoder ln -s /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/textures $HOME/minetext 17:42 OldCoder 17:42 * Jordach wonders why i use run in place 17:42 OldCoder Do that 17:43 Mika_R oldcoder, minetext? 17:44 OldCoder Bacon 17:44 OldCoder Any word 17:44 OldCoder Pick a word 17:44 Mika_R ok 17:44 Mika_R i wrote that 17:44 OldCoder applesauce 17:44 OldCoder horsefeathers 17:44 OldCoder mustard 17:44 OldCoder Then 17:44 OldCoder In file manager 17:44 OldCoder Folder will appear by that name in your home directory 17:45 Mika_R found it 17:45 OldCoder k 17:45 OldCoder All set? 17:45 OldCoder Happy? 17:46 Mika_R YES 17:47 OldCoder All right! 17:47 OldCoder :-) 17:49 CTMN R u still busy? 17:53 Jordach VanessaE, present? 17:54 OldCoder CTMN, Me? 17:55 OldCoder CTMN, I am fixing Calinou world 17:58 CTMN Still? 17:58 OldCoder CTMN, It has been two busy MT days. I have also shown Mika_R how to build Minetest. 17:58 OldCoder 17:59 OldCoder Announcement! 17:59 CTMN What? 17:59 OldCoder Calinou World is online again at port 30003. Please visit! I need to see if the world will crash! 17:59 OldCoder Thank you 17:59 OldCoder 17:59 CTMN So u can go over to 30001 now? 17:59 OldCoder Shortly 17:59 CTMN At last 18:01 Jordach haha, funny, my pc makes a "beep" when i press backspace with no text in xchatr 18:02 OldCoder Calinou, do you want music and sound effects for your world? 18:05 OldCoder Calinou, rejoin as the name you used before; calinou 18:05 OldCoder We can fix the upper case later 18:05 Calinou I used "calinou" before? huh 18:05 OldCoder yes 18:05 OldCoder You did 18:06 OldCoder rejoin and I'll edit it during the next restart 18:06 OldCoder Also indicate your country 18:06 OldCoder thexyz, I think it is repaired! 18:06 CTMN I always thought it ignores upper or lower letters 18:06 thexyz nice 18:06 Jordach CTMN, NOPE. 18:06 OldCoder Thank you for advice and assistance! 18:07 OldCoder Calinou, if you find a bad spot on the map let us know 18:08 OldCoder Hmm 18:08 OldCoder May still be locking up; I am not sure 18:08 OldCoder Reviewing 18:10 Mikeonline hi 18:10 Calinou is it possible to register a chat command without adding it in /help command list? 18:10 Calinou would be good for aliases :P 18:10 Mikeonline is the drop dublication glitch already known/fixed? 18:10 OldCoder Calinou, talk to TheRedMood 18:10 OldCoder He is doing things like that 18:10 Calinou yes, told him a suggestion 18:10 rubenwardy (7:10:27 PM) Mikeonline: is the drop dublication glitch already known/fixed? 18:10 rubenwardy It is in the issues on the GitHub 18:10 Mikeonline -b+p 18:11 thexyz Mikeonline: what glitch? 18:11 Mikeonline you put mese 99 into a air node 18:11 Mikeonline and after a while got 2x 99 18:11 rubenwardy yeah, i posted an issure 18:11 rubenwardy issue 18:11 thexyz link 18:11 rubenwardy i cant open my web browser 18:12 thexyz why? 18:12 rubenwardy i dont know 18:12 CTMN Does it crash? 18:12 OldCoder Worlds going down 18:12 thexyz what's your OS? 18:12 Mikeonline it works in a special case if surroundin is not air or sth else 18:12 rubenwardy windows 18:12 rubenwardy firefox 18:12 thexyz oh, then I think I've found the problem 18:12 thexyz windows 18:12 thexyz ^ 18:13 CTMN Does the window just not open? 18:13 OldCoder Calinou, do you want Calinou or calinou ? 18:13 thexyz strange anyway 18:13 OldCoder Pick one because I think there is a server bug 18:13 Calinou Calinou 18:13 rubenwardy nothing happens, i looked in task manager -> processes and it says firefox.exe is running 18:13 Calinou I gtg anyway, bye 18:13 OldCoder k 18:13 Calinou firefox 18:13 Calinou firefox is a decent OS lacking only a good web browser 18:13 Calinou #emacsjoke 18:13 rubenwardy Internet explorer does not work either 18:14 CTMN Does ur hard disk scratch? 18:14 rubenwardy no, all other programs work 18:14 thexyz the bad thing about calinou is that the only what he knows about (good linux) software is jokes or some other unrelated crap 18:14 thexyz oh, he won't even see it 18:14 rubenwardy lol 18:14 rubenwardy brb 18:17 OldCoder Worlds restarted 18:20 OldCoder Do try out calinou world at minetest.org port 30003 as we wish to see if it will live or die 18:21 rubenwardy On ubuntu now... So much better 18:21 cosarara97 live or die? 18:21 OldCoder cosarara97, the world was damaged. We have tried to repair it 18:21 OldCoder It must be tested 18:22 OldCoder cosarara97, I will set interact for you 18:22 bulletrulz OldCoder, 18:23 rubenwardy Duplication Glitch: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/218 18:23 bulletrulz is the minetest server minetest.org 30000 down? 18:23 OldCoder No 18:23 OldCoder Restart 18:23 OldCoder rubenwardy, Reviewing 18:23 bulletrulz cause i cant get on it OldCoder 18:24 OldCoder rubenwardy, is there a question? 18:24 OldCoder bulletrulz, have you restarted? 18:24 rubenwardy no 18:24 OldCoder rubenwardy, ty 18:24 rubenwardy someone asked me for a link 18:24 OldCoder k 18:24 OldCoder Oh 18:24 bulletrulz yes 18:24 OldCoder bulletrulz, said my name 18:24 OldCoder not yuo 18:24 OldCoder u 18:24 OldCoder bulletrulz, wait 18:25 OldCoder bulletrulz, You're there 18:25 OldCoder What do you see? 18:25 rubenwardy Mikeonline, i believe 18:25 OldCoder cosarara97, you're trapped? 18:25 OldCoder Wait 18:25 bulletrulz now it says im connecting but still at 0% media 18:25 cosarara97 yes 18:25 OldCoder bulletrulz, wait 18:25 rubenwardy (19:23:06) rubenwardy: Duplication Glitch: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/218 18:25 cosarara97 very trapped 18:26 bulletrulz now 1 18:26 cosarara97 in a protected box 18:26 OldCoder cosarara97, I will give you fly 18:26 OldCoder How did that happen? 18:26 CTMN Bulletrulz, just wait, it should load 18:26 cosarara97 I appeared there when I connected 18:26 bulletrulz im stuck at 1 % WE ARE THE 1% XD 18:26 CTMN Media always loads for a very long time when first time joining a server 18:26 OldCoder cosarara97, can you fly now? 18:26 cosarara97 yes 18:26 OldCoder Fly, then 18:26 bulletrulz how long does this take OldCoder 18:27 cosarara97 well, someone built an awesome spawn point 18:27 CTMN Or when joining a server that was changed 18:27 cosarara97 I'm free already 18:27 OldCoder bulletrulz, it varies but is fast the second time 18:27 OldCoder cosarara97, there must be an escape route 18:27 CTMN Bulletrulz, it may take half an hour 18:27 bulletrulz ohk 18:27 bulletrulz WTD 18:27 bulletrulz WTF 30MIN 18:27 OldCoder bulletrulz, don't blame *me* 18:27 OldCoder Some people demanded music 18:27 OldCoder It is very nice 18:28 CTMN It took that time when I joinde 30001 after the change 18:28 cosarara97 come and see, It's just above the original one 18:28 OldCoder k 18:28 bulletrulz WELL i guess ill just ill just wait xD 18:28 bulletrulz 4% 18:29 bulletrulz damn 39% now 18:30 bulletrulz 40 % 18:30 bulletrulz gonna be using somebodys wifi 18:30 bulletrulz lol 18:30 cosarara97 Calinou, u here? 18:30 MiJyn hi 18:30 OldCoder He left 18:30 bulletrulz 61% and hi MiJyn 18:31 OldCoder But we can ask him later 18:31 cosarara97 ok 18:31 MiJyn bulletrulz, what are you downloadding? 18:31 cosarara97 well, the server seems ok 18:31 bulletrulz MiJyn, im joining OldCoders server 18:31 OldCoder Yes 18:31 bulletrulz 73% OldCoder 18:32 OldCoder thexyz, others: Calinou World is repaired. There was one crash but I think it's another bug. 18:32 MiJyn bulletrulz, ah 18:32 bulletrulz 91% 18:32 OldCoder CTMN, I must rest for a few minutes. I will look at 30001 then 18:32 cosarara97 bulletrulz: what's that percentage? 18:32 OldCoder Zzz 18:32 * OldCoder is resting 18:32 bulletrulz 100 18:32 MiJyn kk 18:32 CTMN The media 18:32 bulletrulz 100% 18:33 bulletrulz now i have a black screen 18:33 OldCoder Wait 18:33 cosarara97 wait 18:33 CTMN Wait 18:33 cosarara97 lol 18:33 CTMN Lol 18:33 CTMN XD 18:33 bulletrulz lol oh 18:33 OldCoder lol 18:34 CTMN Bulletrulz did u ever join a server? 18:34 * cosarara97 is going to berenar/merendar/(this doesn't have a translation in english, I think) 18:34 CTMN Is it... ? 18:34 bulletrulz accedently exited! 18:34 bulletrulz ? 18:35 CTMN What language? 18:35 CTMN Bulletrulz, from now on, media will load faster 18:35 CTMN It should load faster 18:36 bulletrulz black screen 18:36 CTMN Wait 18:36 CTMN Just wait 18:36 CTMN Is it ur first time on a server? 18:37 bulletrulz NO! CTMN im a first 100 player 18:37 CTMN Then u should know that 18:38 bulletrulz OldCoder, can i have privs? 18:40 bulletrulz please?! 18:40 khonkhortisan Is there a way to catch an un-punch of a node? 18:40 * cosarara97 is here 18:41 khonkhortisan to catch the person letting go between punching and digging? 18:42 bulletrulz cosarara97, r u a mod? 18:43 khonkhortisan base080, you here? 18:43 cosarara97 bulletrulz: not a moderator, not a modification 18:43 khonkhortisan modulus? 18:43 bulletrulz cosarara97, can u giveme privs? 18:43 cosarara97 where? 18:44 bulletrulz on minetest.org 18:44 bulletrulz 30000 18:44 cosarara97 I can't 18:44 CTMN There r many servers 18:45 bulletrulz CTMN, can u give me privs? 18:45 CTMN 1. Im only playing on 30001 18:45 CTMN 2. Im not a mod 18:46 bulletrulz oki mean privs to build 18:46 CTMN Ask Ol 18:46 CTMN OldCoder 18:46 bulletrulz bye 18:46 bulletrulz i guess 18:47 cosarara97 bye 18:47 CTMN Bb 18:47 bulletrulz nvm 18:48 bulletrulz ok yeah bye 18:50 CTMN Does anyone know why the server page was removed from minetest.net? 18:50 CTMN It was really useful 18:50 thexyz http://servers.minetest.ru/ 18:51 CTMN I know 18:51 CTMN But the link was removed 18:59 Jordach sup cisoun1 19:00 cisoun1 hi 19:00 CTMN Why did u change ur name? 19:01 OldCoder Hello 19:01 RealBadAngel propably rejoined and old nick is still here because of lags 19:01 khonkhortisan ctmn can't say yo 19:01 khonkhortisan yo+u yo+ur 19:01 khonkhortisan :) 19:02 khonkhortisan Do you think I could get a cop to arrest me for an open bottle of root beer? 19:02 Jordach nope 19:03 OldCoder CTMN, I am reviewing 30001 19:03 TheRedMoodWin OHH! 19:03 TheRedMoodWin _D 19:03 TheRedMoodWin :D 19:03 TheRedMoodWin Nice feedback on the forums 19:03 OldCoder ? 19:03 CTMN Thx OldCoder 19:03 RealBadAngel hi OldCoder 19:04 TheRedMoodWin Hello RealBadAngel :D 19:04 OldCoder RealBadAngello 19:04 RealBadAngel hi 19:04 Jordach http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/jordach/2835425 19:04 CTMN Hi 19:04 RealBadAngel i think PilzAdam made a water a bit too dark 19:04 RealBadAngel i mean underwater 19:08 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder, people give really good feedback here :D 19:08 thexyz Jordach: Java (TM) is required to display some elements on this page 19:08 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, Oh? 19:08 TheRedMoodWin I posted my mod on the forums 19:08 OldCoder Yes 19:08 TheRedMoodWin And they have already given me much good feedback :D 19:09 OldCoder All right 19:09 hmmmm hey guys, in the Lua api, what's an 'ABM'? 19:09 hmmmm i mean what does it stand for 19:09 thexyz active block modifier 19:09 hmmmm and that's basically a callback for a registered timer? 19:10 hmmmm or is it more generally a callback that's called on some event, such as a timer expiring 19:10 thexyz it only affects selected nodes 19:10 thexyz called every X seconds for all nodes with {"name", "name2", ...} 19:11 hmmmm i see 19:11 hmmmm and 'chance' means it has a 1/5 chance of being called on a 2 second interval, for the case of leaf decay where interval = 2 and chance = 5? 19:11 thexyz yep 19:12 hmmmm is the dirt->dirt_with_grass transform a Lua defined abm? 19:12 thexyz there's also `neighbors` variable which specifies what neighbor(s) node should have 19:13 thexyz doesn't seem so 19:14 CTMN Why not? 19:14 CTMN It only needs to check if the block has light 19:15 hmmmm well 19:15 hmmmm moving it out into lua certainly isn't critical 19:15 hmmmm i don't see any benefits from doing so anyway 19:16 CTMN If its done in C++, let it so 19:16 hmmmm alright, so i need your opinion on this 19:16 thexyz +1 for moving it to lua 19:17 CTMN Things implemented in the source code r always better and faster than Lua 19:17 thexyz btw, hmmmm, do you have any public repo where I can view your changes? 19:17 hmmmm ever bug you when you lay down dirt and it takes a long time to turn into grass 19:17 hmmmm thexyz, not yet 19:17 hmmmm so then you leave the area, the block unloads, and you come back, it's exactly the same as it was before 19:17 hmmmm well 19:17 thexyz I also would like to see mapgen implemented as lua script 19:17 hmmmm dohohoh 19:17 hmmmm not happening in a million years 19:17 hmmmm i know you guys like lua but you don't realize how slow it is. 19:17 thexyz but for minetest it requires a lot of code tweaking 19:18 thexyz hmmmm: why is it slow? 19:18 CTMN I dont think C55 is goin to show his mapgen code 19:18 thexyz i thought it's not THAT slow 19:18 hmmmm beeecause it's an interpreted language...? 19:18 OldCoder 19:18 hmmmm if i recall correctly, someone tried to do a nether mod with the Lua scripting 19:18 thexyz there's also luajit 19:18 CTMN What is OldCoder? 19:19 hmmmm go check out how nice that works out 19:19 OldCoder If I delete a world's sqlite file and run again it should regenerate with the same seed; correct? 19:19 hmmmm someone tried adding luajit before and it didn't make much of a difference from what i've heard 19:19 CTMN I think so if there r other map files 19:19 thexyz yep 19:19 thexyz that was me ^^ 19:19 khonkhortisan I added in sand texture transitions, and the only slow part was scanning the world to place them. 19:19 OldCoder All right 19:19 OldCoder Here is what I am doing: 19:19 thexyz but i still think that's minetest problem 19:19 thexyz not lua 19:19 hmmmm I mean let's face it, if you Lua-happy people had your way, you'd move the entire game out into lua and only have a rendering engine in C++ (like irrlicht) 19:20 CTMN OldCoder, it can be another seed 19:20 hmmmm and what was the reason for moving away from minecraft again? 19:20 khonkhortisan lua is used as an api, can you really tell which side is being slow? 19:20 hmmmm oh wait, that's right, "ugh java is so slow and crappy" 19:20 thexyz hmmmm: closed source? 19:20 OldCoder Teleport to a corner, //pos1, teleport to other corner, //pos2, //save bacon, delete sqlite file, run again, teleport to corner, //pos1, //load bacon 19:20 hmmmm that's a reason 19:20 OldCoder Will this recreate a world with the same terrain and structures? 19:20 Jordach i wanted a controlled game 19:20 Jordach like it was 0.2 again 19:21 hmmmm so, no, critical portions of the mapgen will never be in lua 19:21 CTMN It would only load the village I think 19:21 OldCoder CTMN, explain 19:21 hmmmm but anyway like i was saying 19:21 OldCoder Will this recreate a world with the same terrain and structures? 19:21 OldCoder The procedure as described above? 19:21 OldCoder If not, what am I missing? 19:21 CTMN OldCoder, its better to generate a new map and then load the village and paste it 19:21 OldCoder CTMN, explain how the procedure above would be modified 19:21 OldCoder Be specific 19:22 hmmmm what I was thinking was the ABM for a block ought to be called (timestamp - old_timestamp) / (interval * chance) times on load 19:22 TheRedMoodWin Wow 19:22 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder need some help here o.o 19:22 hmmmm but there's a problem, what if the server shuts down 19:22 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder I want to give an alias for an command 19:22 CTMN Save as u wrote, generate a fully new world(with same seed), go to a corner, //pos1, //load 19:22 TheRedMoodWin OldCoder so that /message becomes /msg 19:22 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, sorry I am occupied 19:22 OldCoder Oh? 19:22 TheRedMoodWin okey :( 19:22 OldCoder CTMN, then what changes? 19:22 TheRedMoodWin I tried mindtest.register_alias 19:22 hmmmm we'll have a timestamp for that too in order to take into account the gap between the block being unloaded and the block being loaded, excluded from the time the server wasn't online 19:22 CTMN Any qustions? 19:23 OldCoder TheRedMoodWin, I don't know mods yet? 19:23 hmmmm of course it'd need to be tuned a bit 19:23 OldCoder OldCoder, its better to generate a new map and then load the village and paste it 19:23 OldCoder CTMN, explain 19:23 OldCoder And be specific 19:23 OldCoder What is wrong 19:23 CTMN I wrote it 19:23 OldCoder with the procedure that I stated? 19:23 hmmmm boy this channel is noisy 19:23 OldCoder You said: 19:23 hmmmm but nobody talks in the other ones 19:23 OldCoder OldCoder, its better to generate a new map and then load the village and paste it 19:23 OldCoder How does this 19:23 OldCoder differ from what I wrote? 19:23 TheRedMoodWin Anyone willing to help me out? 19:23 OldCoder Explain the difference please 19:24 thexyz hmmmm: then you should begin to talk in -delta 19:24 TheRedMoodWin Need someone to explain to me how to use minetest.register_alias() 19:24 TheRedMoodWin To make a alias for a commmand 19:24 TheRedMoodWin Just putting it in the doesn't work 19:24 CTMN All the //load stuff 19:24 OldCoder What changes? 19:24 hmmmm yeah 19:24 CTMN I mean the // save stuff 19:24 OldCoder What is different in my procedure? 19:24 OldCoder CTMN, be specific 19:24 CTMN Make all the stuff u wrote till //save, save then 19:25 OldCoder Teleport to a corner, //pos1, teleport to other corner, //pos2, //save bacon, delete sqlite file, run again, teleport to corner, //pos1, //load bacon 19:25 OldCoder Change what/ 19:25 OldCoder ? 19:25 OldCoder Be specific 19:25 CTMN Then make a fully new world with same seed if u want 19:25 OldCoder Change what? 19:25 OldCoder Be specific 19:25 OldCoder How is the preceding procedure incorrect? 19:25 CTMN Replace delete sqlite file with generate a new world and copy the file in /scheme 19:26 OldCoder Explain 19:26 OldCoder How is the preceding procedure incorrect? 19:26 OldCoder Be specific 19:26 OldCoder You are not being specific 19:26 OldCoder Be specific 19:26 OldCoder Generate a new world how? 19:26 CTMN I dont know how u generate a new world 19:26 CTMN Just a new world 19:27 CTMN Im not an admin 19:27 OldCoder CTMN, Then... 19:27 OldCoder If I understand correctly 19:27 OldCoder My procedure is correct 19:27 OldCoder But I need to verify this 19:27 OldCoder That is the step 19:27 OldCoder I told you I needed to do 19:27 CTMN But make a new world isntead of deleting the sqlite file 19:27 OldCoder How? 19:27 OldCoder Be specific 19:27 OldCoder If I do not use 19:28 OldCoder the same seed, the terrain will be different 19:28 OldCoder What will happen then? 19:28 CTMN Like pressing the "new" button in the singleplayer menu 19:28 OldCoder If I do not use 19:28 OldCoder the same seed, the terrain will be different 19:28 OldCoder What will happen then? 19:28 CTMN Get the seed 19:28 OldCoder If I do not use 19:28 OldCoder the same seed, the terrain will be different 19:28 OldCoder What will happen then? 19:28 CTMN Ok then use the same seed for a new world 19:29 OldCoder You seemed to wish for a new seed 19:29 CTMN Not important to me 19:29 OldCoder What happens when a schema for a village is loaded over terrain of different types? 19:29 CTMN In the worst case, it will be like in a hole 19:30 CTMN The village could be in a notch then 19:30 CTMN Just never mind about a new seed, its not that important for me 19:31 OldCoder If it is of interest 19:31 OldCoder Explain why you wanted one 19:31 CTMN Just replace "delete sqlite file" with generate new map with same seed and copy the file in /scheme to the new world 19:31 OldCoder If it is of interest 19:31 OldCoder Explain why you wanted one 19:31 CTMN Dont know 19:31 OldCoder Don't know? Very well 19:32 CTMN Just forget it 19:32 OldCoder Heh 19:32 CTMN It was a bad idea 19:32 OldCoder Not as patient as you promised :p 19:32 OldCoder I believe in understanding things 19:32 OldCoder Need to figure them out 19:32 OldCoder Working now 19:32 CTMN Thats why I have to go sleeping soon 19:32 OldCoder Yes 19:32 OldCoder Pretty late there 19:33 CTMN Almost 22:00 19:33 CTMN Pls go on 19:33 OldCoder CTMN, The worldedit isn't working 19:33 CTMN I dont have much time 19:33 CTMN Why? 19:33 OldCoder I'm going to need help from somebody who knows worldedit 19:33 OldCoder I did the load 19:33 CTMN Does it just do nothing? 19:33 OldCoder It said nodes loaded 19:33 OldCoder It said nodes loaded 19:33 RealBadAngel CTMN, use /time 19:33 OldCoder But the buildings are not there 19:34 CTMN RBA: not enough parameters 19:34 RealBadAngel set whatever you want ;) 19:35 CTMN OldCoder, did u mark it with //pos1? 19:35 OldCoder Yes 19:35 OldCoder And just verified 19:35 OldCoder using //p get 19:35 OldCoder pos1 is correct 19:35 RealBadAngel theres a GUI for worldedit i believe 19:35 OldCoder I have done //load bacon 19:35 OldCoder I don't need a GUI 19:35 OldCoder I need to know why it doesn't work 19:35 OldCoder So I need a worldedit person 19:36 OldCoder to come on and show me 19:36 OldCoder CTMN, that may take a while 19:36 CTMN No a last try 19:36 OldCoder To be clear: 19:36 RealBadAngel i think cornernote may know somethin 19:36 OldCoder /teleport numbers 19:36 CTMN Mark it only with //pos1 19:36 OldCoder //pos1 19:36 OldCoder //load bacon 19:36 CTMN Yes 19:36 OldCoder Says nodes are loaded 19:36 CTMN Yes 19:36 OldCoder But no buildings are at 19:37 OldCoder the known coords 19:37 CTMN Did anything change? 19:37 OldCoder Nope 19:37 CTMN Which version do u have? 19:37 OldCoder Of what? 19:37 OldCoder Latest of all I believe 19:38 CTMN Then it should say"x blocks pasted at p1" 19:38 CTMN Did it say it? 19:38 OldCoder Yes 19:39 OldCoder I am doing it all *again* 19:39 CTMN Oh gtg bb :( 19:39 OldCoder For the fifth time 19:39 OldCoder cu 19:39 JangoFett154 hey guys i back 19:39 OldCoder Huh 19:39 OldCoder Missed CTMN by 1 second 19:39 OldCoder He is interested in 30001 19:40 OldCoder But I cannot get worldedit to work 19:40 JangoFett154 hmm? 19:40 OldCoder See above 19:40 OldCoder What is hmm? 19:40 JangoFett154 ill try it 19:40 OldCoder Wait 19:40 JangoFett154 what do you need to do on worldedit 19:40 OldCoder Then it should say"x blocks pasted at p1" 19:40 OldCoder It says 19:40 OldCoder 19086 blocks loaded 19:41 OldCoder Not pasted 19:41 OldCoder How do I make it say pasted? 19:41 JangoFett154 what are you trying to do with worldedit? 19:41 OldCoder We have been over this. But I will explain again. 19:41 OldCoder One moment. 19:41 JangoFett154 only the infinity blocks or the whole thing? 19:41 OldCoder First answer a simple question 19:41 OldCoder Then it should say"x blocks pasted at p1" 19:41 OldCoder It says 19:41 OldCoder 19086 blocks loaded 19:41 OldCoder Not pasted 19:41 OldCoder How do I make it say pasted? 19:42 OldCoder Is CTMN right or wrong about the wording? 19:42 OldCoder Should it say loaded or pasted? 19:42 JangoFett154 let me go check worldedit page 19:42 Jordach sfan5, help out OldCoder with worldedit 19:42 sfan5 ok, whats the problem 19:42 OldCoder One moment ty 19:42 JangoFett154 it should say: loaded 19:42 OldCoder JangoFett154, Fine 19:42 OldCoder But I only see air 19:42 OldCoder One moment ty 19:43 JangoFett154 oops i mean CTMN was right, i read wrong thing 19:43 khonkhortisan the word "pasted" doesn't appear in current worldedit git. 19:43 JangoFett154 --Importing Blocks from a File-- 19:43 JangoFett154 Select P1 19:43 OldCoder Run server, teleport to a corner, //pos1, teleport to opposite corner, //pos2, //save bacon, stop server, delete sqlite file, run server again, teleport to first corner, //pos1, //load bacon 19:44 OldCoder Will this or will it not 19:44 JangoFett154 Type //load filename and wait for "X Blocks pasted at P1" 19:44 OldCoder Recreate a world? 19:44 JangoFett154 The File is read from the World-Folder in the folder schems 19:44 OldCoder JangoFett154, that is apparently not in the git version 19:44 OldCoder sfan5, my procedure above... 19:44 RealBadAngel OldCoder, maybe "move" ? 19:44 OldCoder Will this or will it not recreate a world? 19:44 skully_ oldcoder 19:44 OldCoder skully_, busy ATM 19:44 RealBadAngel im lookin at the GUI code, i think move will do it 19:45 OldCoder What does load do? 19:45 khonkhortisan /save doesn't recreate meta (chests, signs, etc.) 19:45 OldCoder Hmm 19:45 OldCoder Just buildings? 19:45 OldCoder So no way to save a world except splice? 19:45 khonkhortisan they'll still be there, just blanked out 19:45 RealBadAngel OldCoder, http://cornernote.net/minetest/screenshots/2012-09-26_1117.png 19:45 OldCoder No way to export them 19:45 OldCoder Reviewing 19:45 khonkhortisan There's a function to save meta, I haven't tried it. 19:45 JangoFett154 load take the file from schems and places it where the //pos1 was placed 19:45 RealBadAngel screenshot says its possible 19:46 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Yes 19:46 OldCoder See khonkhortisan remarks above 19:46 OldCoder No point 19:46 OldCoder World cannot be saved with components 19:46 OldCoder But 19:46 OldCoder FWIW 19:46 sfan5 /metasave 19:46 sfan5 and //metaload 19:46 OldCoder sfan5, ty 19:46 OldCoder Does that do everything? 19:46 OldCoder Blocks and meta? 19:46 OldCoder And... 19:47 OldCoder Please forgive my pasting this one last time 19:47 OldCoder But I am literal and I do not understand what is unclear 19:47 OldCoder Run server, teleport to a corner, //pos1, teleport to opposite corner, //pos2, //save bacon, stop server, delete sqlite file, run server again, teleport to first corner, //pos1, //load bacon 19:47 OldCoder 19:47 OldCoder If I use metasave and metaload 19:47 OldCoder Should this procedure recreate a world? 19:47 OldCoder Same terrain? Same buildings? Same chests and signs? 19:47 OldCoder 19:48 OldCoder That is my question 19:48 OldCoder Presently I just see air 19:48 OldCoder Nothing comes back 19:48 OldCoder And it does say 19086 nodes loaded 19:48 OldCoder So where are they? 19:48 khonkhortisan the code looks like it should save nodes along with the meta 19:49 OldCoder khonkhortisan, ty 19:49 OldCoder Triple checking what I have done 19:49 TheRedMoodWin sfan5 is there a way to register an alias for an command, without having to re register the command? 19:49 sfan5 idk 19:50 khonkhortisan if there was a minetest.registered_commands it would be possible 19:50 OldCoder Is anybody able to tell me if my procedure is correct? 19:50 OldCoder JangoFett154, you asked what I wanted. What I want is the answer. 19:51 sfan5 OldCoder: it should be correct 19:51 OldCoder sfan5, ty 19:51 sfan5 but make backups! 19:51 OldCoder Of course 19:51 OldCoder The thing is... 19:51 JangoFett154 i dont know uch about that meta part srry 19:51 OldCoder I teleport to where the buildings are 19:51 OldCoder Never mind that 19:51 OldCoder I teleport to where the buildings are 19:51 OldCoder And there is nothing but air 19:51 OldCoder Nothing comes back 19:51 khonkhortisan I tried //metasave/load on a single chest with wood in it, and what I got out was a chest that doesn't even have buttons in the inventory. 19:52 OldCoder khonkhortisan, ty 19:52 OldCoder But 19:52 OldCoder I am intrigued by the fact that nothing at all comes back 19:52 OldCoder Not a cobblestone 19:52 OldCoder Yet it says 19086 nodes loaded 19:52 OldCoder Hmm 19:52 khonkhortisan it should at least have an empty inventory, not missing inventory buttons. 19:52 * OldCoder pokes at the world 19:53 khonkhortisan /save //load gives me an empty chest, but //metasave //metaload gives me a non-functional chest. Something's not right. 19:56 sfan5 OldCoder: it pastes the world at p1 19:56 OldCoder sfan5, I know 19:56 sfan5 teleport to p1 19:56 OldCoder So the coords should match up; true? 19:56 OldCoder ^ 19:56 OldCoder No need to teleport as I stay there for the load 19:57 OldCoder I am trying other things 19:57 OldCoder If there is bacon at 1,2,3 in the old world there should be bacon at 1,2,3 in the new? Or at least the bacon building if bacon is meta 19:57 sfan5 OldCoder: no 19:57 khonkhortisan only if your p1 was in the same place 19:57 OldCoder Yes 19:58 OldCoder Assume p1 was exactly the same 19:58 OldCoder And same seed was used 19:58 Jordach night all, tell VanessaE i said sup 19:58 OldCoder Everything the same 19:58 OldCoder Jordach, cu 19:58 khonkhortisan I /msg'd it 19:58 OldCoder NekoGloop, Hello 19:59 TheRedMoodWin NEKO! 19:59 TheRedMoodWin :D 19:59 NekoGloop Lets see. Noobs have taken up modding, VanessaE was deopped, I managed to corrupt about 10 minecraft worlds, and I had a cookie. 20:00 NekoGloop Pretty productive day. 20:00 OldCoder ? 20:00 OldCoder What about VanessaE ? 20:00 NekoGloop nothing XD 20:00 NekoGloop she was op previously 20:00 OldCoder And is not now? 20:00 * TheRedMoodWin throws himself over neko 20:00 NekoGloop last time i was in the channel anyway. 20:00 NekoGloop TheRedMoodWin: Get off of me! 20:00 NekoGloop 3: 20:00 TheRedMoodWin I just want to play :( 20:00 TheRedMoodWin I even brought a ball of string 20:00 TheRedMoodWin T_T 20:00 OldCoder Oh! 20:00 NekoGloop hm.. 20:00 OldCoder STRING 20:00 TheRedMoodWin I was just trying to be friendly.... 20:00 NekoGloop gimme that. :3 20:01 TheRedMoodWin :( 20:01 TheRedMoodWin No 20:01 TheRedMoodWin You where mean 20:01 NekoGloop lol sfan 20:03 OldCoder Maybe the Z coordinates are wrong. JangoFett154 you gave me the two corners. Is the save range correct in the vertical axis? 20:03 * TheRedMoodWin throws himself over Neko again 20:03 TheRedMoodWin :D 20:03 * TheRedMoodWin holds neko up in the air 20:03 TheRedMoodWin A cat :D 20:03 OldCoder because I purged my cache and restarted the server and I'm getting *nothing* back 20:04 * TheRedMoodWin puts neko on his chest while getting the ball of string 20:04 NekoGloop TheRedMoodWin: er... I'm still a catboy 20:04 TheRedMoodWin Here kitty :D 20:04 * TheRedMoodWin holds ball of string some distance over nekos head. 20:05 TheRedMoodWin catch it :D 20:05 cosarara97 lol 20:05 NekoGloop uh.. 20:05 NekoGloop it isnt that hard to catch a ball of string... 20:06 cosarara97 It is if you don't reach it :) 20:06 NekoGloop I am a catboy :P 20:08 khonkhortisan OldCoder, it won't load from P1 20:08 khonkhortisan I had P1 at the bottom-left corner and P2 at the top-left corner when I saved. When I loaded, it placed everything so that P1 was at the bottom-left corner. 20:09 khonkhortisan whoops *I had P1 at the bottom-right corner and... 20:09 OldCoder khonkhortisan, ? 20:10 khonkhortisan You'll have a corner load at P1 but unless you know the axes, you won't know which corner will load there. 20:10 OldCoder Conclusions? 20:10 OldCoder Where does it actually put things? 20:10 OldCoder Corners are random? 20:10 OldCoder And thank you for the information 20:10 khonkhortisan it always loads NE of P1 20:11 TheRedMoodWin NekoGloop try then 20:11 TheRedMoodWin :D 20:11 TheRedMoodWin No 20:11 TheRedMoodWin you are a kitten 20:11 * NekoGloop snatches the yarn from TheRedMoodWin's hand 20:11 TheRedMoodWin :D 20:11 TheRedMoodWin Good kitten 20:12 * TheRedMoodWin strokes the furr on nekos ear 20:12 TheRedMoodWin :3 20:12 NekoGloop ^w^ 20:12 khonkhortisan oh. Okay, so I save a 3x3 area that had three chests in it. I set P in the top layer of sand. I load what I saved, and the three chests come back, but now there's sand in-between them instead of air. 20:12 khonkhortisan It brings back the nodes you saved, but doesn't clear the area in the process. 20:13 khonkhortisan that's with //save and //load 20:13 NekoGloop yeah 20:13 NekoGloop because it doesnt save air 20:13 TheRedMoodWin :o 20:13 TheRedMoodWin Neko is a wise cat 20:14 * TheRedMoodWin throws neko up into the air and catches him again 20:14 TheRedMoodWin weee :D 20:14 TheRedMoodWin That was so fun :) 20:14 NekoGloop stop it 3: 20:14 TheRedMoodWin Ohh 20:14 TheRedMoodWin :( 20:14 TheRedMoodWin Sorry kitty 20:16 * TheRedMoodWin takes the ball of string again and raises ist to the air 20:16 OldCoder Hmm 20:16 TheRedMoodWin Catch it again :D 20:16 OldCoder khonkhortisan, should I fill a region with air before loading? 20:17 * NekoGloop snatches it and walks away 20:17 TheRedMoodWin but 20:17 TheRedMoodWin But 20:17 TheRedMoodWin But 20:17 TheRedMoodWin But :( 20:17 TheRedMoodWin *Sniff* 20:18 OldCoder khonkhortisan, so if I get 4 corners and restore at the lower left it should work? 20:18 khonkhortisan yes you should fill it with air first, then put P1 at the SW corner of your air hole. 20:18 TheRedMoodWin *Sniff* ; ~ ; 20:18 TheRedMoodWin NEKKOOOOOO! 20:18 OldCoder Hmm 20:18 OldCoder Does this explain the initial meta save load issue? 20:18 OldCoder You said that they didn't work 20:18 OldCoder if fill with air first 20:18 TheRedMoodWin NEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 20:18 OldCoder Might that help? 20:19 khonkhortisan That would be a different issue. I tried meta save load where there was nothing to clear first. 20:19 TheRedMoodWin NekoGloop :( 20:20 TheRedMoodWin NekoGloop are you mean to me :( 20:20 OldCoder khonkhortisan, So this might work 80% but not all the way until metaload and save are fixed. Thank you. 20:20 NekoGloop no. I want the stwing :3 20:20 OldCoder JangoFett154, when you have a minute let me know 20:21 OldCoder khonkhortisan, BTW you're using a reasonably current worldedit and client? 20:21 khonkhortisan most current, both. 20:21 OldCoder Same 20:21 khonkhortisan Not including forks 20:21 OldCoder khonkhortisan, yes. P1 and P2 for save... Are they NW and SE? 20:23 * TheRedMoodWin suprise attacks NekoGloop and takes the ball of string 20:23 TheRedMoodWin Mean people don't get strings :( 20:23 NekoGloop oh just take the string 20:23 NekoGloop and stop treating me like a little kitty 3: 20:24 TheRedMoodWin But you are a kitty :( 20:24 cosarara97 He is a big and scary cat 20:25 TheRedMoodWin No 20:25 khonkhortisan P1 SW and P2 NE 20:25 TheRedMoodWin He is a fluffy and kind cat :D 20:26 NekoGloop I am a catboy! 20:26 TheRedMoodWin NOpe 20:26 NekoGloop Yes! 3: 20:26 TheRedMoodWin I don't understand the conecept 20:26 bulletrulz hi 20:26 cosarara97 hi 20:26 TheRedMoodWin So you are a cat :D 20:26 khonkhortisan I think a link is in order 20:27 bulletrulz lol 20:27 GloopMaster Now i am neither cat nor catboy 20:27 khonkhortisan You are gitman 20:27 bulletrulz nekogloop? 20:27 TheRedMoodWin You are a kitten! 20:27 TheRedMoodWin :D 20:27 cosarara97 gitman? 20:27 GloopMaster I am gloopmaster 20:27 bulletrulz are u neko441 from the forums jk 20:27 bulletrulz lol 20:28 khonkhortisan no that's a differen... 20:28 TheRedMoodWin nope 20:29 TheRedMoodWin neko is just a little kitten 20:29 TheRedMoodWin :D 20:29 OldCoder khonkhortisan, so there are workarounds. But the meta broken thing is a killer. 20:29 GloopMaster i'm outta here. page me when you stop telling me what i am 20:29 * cosarara97 hates chemistry homework 20:30 * bulletrulz hates crack cocaine 20:30 bulletrulz lol 20:30 bulletrulz xD 20:30 * cosarara97 doesn't know what paging someone mean 20:30 * bulletrulz hates WINDOWS 20:30 khonkhortisan OldCoder, //move understands meta correctly. 20:30 * cosarara97 hates windows as well 20:30 khonkhortisan But that probably doesn't help. 20:31 OldCoder k 20:31 * cosarara97 knows what cocaine is, but doesn't understand that "crack" in the sentence, btw 20:31 khonkhortisan it's a purity, I think 20:32 khonkhortisan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crack_cocaine <-- found it 20:33 cosarara97 huhuh 20:33 * cosarara97 hates it as well 20:34 * cosarara97 hates too many things 20:34 * bulletrulz thinks steve jobs is burning in hell right now 20:34 * khonkhortisan doesn't like when windows lies to him 20:35 TheRedMoodWin He bought the devil 20:35 bulletrulz TheRedMoodWin, LOL U USE WINDOWS? 20:35 Mikeonline visit www.example.com :D 20:35 TheRedMoodWin So he is having a good time torturing linux and open source users 20:35 TheRedMoodWin I use windows right now yes 20:35 bulletrulz TheRedMoodWin, switch to linux lol 20:35 TheRedMoodWin Because I game 20:35 * bulletrulz hates windows 20:35 TheRedMoodWin Ohh i have a linux box going 20:35 * bulletrulz hates steve jobs 20:36 khonkhortisan example is a website required by regulation 132x59 so we put it up here, see this link for other internet stuff 20:36 TheRedMoodWin slackware 13.40 20:36 bulletrulz oh cool 20:36 TheRedMoodWin I use it trought ssh 20:36 bulletrulz i use bodhi linux 2.10 20:36 * cosarara97 likes ssh 20:36 TheRedMoodWin >.> 20:36 TheRedMoodWin I love sshfs 20:36 TheRedMoodWin And i also love gentoo 20:36 TheRedMoodWin gentoo rocks 20:36 bulletrulz ubuntu based distro using the e17 desktoop 20:36 khonkhortisan On windows, something a regular user does can be credited to the administrator. 20:37 * cosarara97 uses arch linux 20:37 khonkhortisan HKEY_CURRENT_USER \ Software \ Microsoft \ Windows \ CurrentVersion \ Policies\ System \ DisableTaskMgr 20:37 bulletrulz khonkhortisan, ikr a reg user should just be able to browser the internet 20:37 bulletrulz thats it 20:37 cosarara97 ikr? 20:37 khonkhortisan "Task Manager has been disabled by your administrator" No, I did! 20:37 TheRedMoodWin So does debian stable and arch linux 20:37 TheRedMoodWin Slackware is also very good for stability 20:38 TheRedMoodWin Since if you first get something working on good old slack 20:38 TheRedMoodWin It will never break 20:38 TheRedMoodWin x3 20:38 thexyz yep 20:38 thexyz gentoo ftw 20:38 khonkhortisan I enabled task manager on a hotel computer 20:38 TheRedMoodWin i once crashed my entier towns internet 20:38 khonkhortisan I couldn't enable the systray, though. It rebooted when I tried to log out 20:38 thexyz at least, gentoo never breaks 20:39 thexyz and there is no dependency hell 20:39 TheRedMoodWin By setting up a VPN on the libary in town 20:39 cosarara97 no you didn't 20:39 TheRedMoodWin Yepp i did :) 20:39 khonkhortisan haha how does that work? 20:39 cosarara97 all ur town uses the library connection? 20:39 TheRedMoodWin Nope 20:39 cosarara97 then? 20:39 TheRedMoodWin But it is connected to the administration 20:39 bulletrulz lol i saw something on a chromiumos review saying i dont use it cause it has less apps then chrome os im like WTF THERE THE SAME THING 20:40 cosarara97 lol 20:40 TheRedMoodWin And since apperntly the hirede zombies to do the security 20:40 * khonkhortisan wouldn't know 20:40 cosarara97 where did you see that? 20:40 TheRedMoodWin so the passsword took 5 minutes to bruce force 20:40 khonkhortisan wow, I tried that on my router for days and didn't get it. 20:40 cosarara97 what password? 20:41 khonkhortisan it wasn't a dictionary password 20:41 cosarara97 khonkhortisan: you need a good wireless card 20:41 bulletrulz my password is a dictionory word but who gives a fuck 20:41 bulletrulz lol 20:42 khonkhortisan my router doesn't save any changes to settings, it has to be reflashed or something like that. 20:42 TheRedMoodWin So i basicly flipped a switch 20:42 TheRedMoodWin On a web interface 20:42 TheRedMoodWin And it stopped 20:42 cosarara97 Internet: turn off <- Click 20:42 khonkhortisan But doing something obvious like that kicks you out of the system. You could've done nagware instead. 20:43 khonkhortisan Buy antivirus! Your computer is infected! 20:43 cosarara97 no, buy MY antivirus 20:43 TheRedMoodWin Yepp 20:43 cosarara97 It'll protect you against all viruses I made 20:43 TheRedMoodWin Isent it just hileriouse? 20:43 TheRedMoodWin X3 20:43 cosarara97 Except the ones I use for my botnet! 20:43 TheRedMoodWin So they actuly kicked the entier administration stab 20:44 TheRedMoodWin And brought in new once 20:45 TheRedMoodWin Now I wouldn't be able to pull that again 20:45 * cosarara97 really has to do chemistry homework, doesn't know how to do it and is chatting on IRC 20:46 * bulletrulz doesent like the cload movemen very much 20:46 * bulletrulz is ok when cloud thougj 20:47 TheRedMoodWin cosarara97 this is the way 20:47 khonkhortisan that'd be a funny virus, one that only infected computers and nagged people to by the antivirus that goes with it. Then you could add tracking to see how long it takes to spread or die out, and how many people remove it without installing your antivirus 20:47 cosarara97 what is the way? 20:47 khonkhortisan It could be a security experiment and documented. 20:48 cosarara97 khonkhortisan: Don't try it if you live in the US 20:48 bulletrulz the heinSIGHT VIRUS 20:48 khonkhortisan it's not harmful, except for nagware and a slight network use. 20:48 bulletrulz cosarara97, why we use linux lol 20:48 bulletrulz i want to make a virus called heinsight virus 20:49 bulletrulz it tells you what you should of done b4 u got the virus 20:49 khonkhortisan huh. There should be viruses that patch bugs in what it infects. Those would be completely legal :) 20:49 cosarara97 lol 20:49 TheRedMoodWin Thats called loveware 20:49 TheRedMoodWin I like those :D 20:52 bulletrulz i looked up loveware on google and this was the top result http://twitter.com/loveware 20:52 JangoFett154 still same problem OldCoder? 20:52 TheRedMoodWin O_O 20:52 TheRedMoodWin Well 20:52 khonkhortisan I just noticed I forgot the license on my mod 20:53 TheRedMoodWin That is not the one i am talking about 20:53 bulletrulz you said it dont ever let me fall dont give up cause your lsing 20:59 cosarara97 LOL 20:59 OldCoder Hi 20:59 OldCoder JangoFett154, PM please 20:59 OldCoder JangoFett154, No we have learned things 21:00 JangoFett154 ok PM me 21:00 cosarara97 Hi kitten 21:01 NekoGloop Done being total douchebags yet? 21:01 cosarara97 ok, ok... 21:02 TheRedMoodWin NEKOOOO! 21:02 TheRedMoodWin :D 21:02 * TheRedMoodWin jumpes over neko 21:02 cosarara97 hey, TheRedMoodWin, stop 21:02 cosarara97 xD 21:02 * NekoGloop /ignore TheRedMoodWin 21:02 TheRedMoodWin NEKO :D 21:02 cosarara97 oooh 21:02 TheRedMood_ Hello Neko :D 21:03 TheRedMood_ :3 21:03 TheRedMood_ Does it even work like that? 21:03 cosarara97 I don't think so 21:03 TheRedMood_ Or is it ip related? 21:03 TheRedMood_ Because I could use a vpn 21:03 TheRedMood_ Ohh 21:03 cosarara97 I think the client sees it when you change nickname 21:03 TheRedMood_ It works like that :D 21:03 TheRedMood_ X3 21:03 TheRedMood_ Nope 21:03 cosarara97 well, maybe neko has a stupid client 21:04 cosarara97 I'll try it with mine 21:04 TheRedMood_ IRC in it self is a pretty simple protocole 21:04 cosarara97 Ignoring you in 3 21:04 cosarara97 2 21:04 cosarara97 1 21:04 TheRedMood_ Maybe ill be just silen 21:04 TheRedMood_ TESTING 21:04 TheRedMood_ TESTING 21:04 TheRedMood_ LOLOLOL 21:04 TheRedMood_ TESTING :D 21:04 cosarara97 ok 21:04 cosarara97 I'm ignoring you now 21:04 TheRedMood_ wait? 21:04 TheRedMood_ It woerked? 21:04 cosarara97 in 20 secconds I'll stop 21:05 TheRedMoodWin TESTING 21:05 TheRedMoodWin TESTING 21:05 TheRedMoodWin LOLOLOL 21:05 TheRedMoodWin TESTING 21:05 TheRedMoodWin :D 21:05 TheRedMoodWin 1+2 = Happyness :D 21:05 cosarara97 huh 21:05 cosarara97 can't unignore you 21:05 cosarara97 lol 21:05 cosarara97 and I see you as disconnected 21:05 cosarara97 :S 21:06 cosarara97 ok 21:06 cosarara97 not ignoring 21:06 cosarara97 talk! 21:06 cosarara97 D: 21:06 cosarara97 I feel so alone 21:08 cosarara97 bye 21:20 NekoGloop Who here is making an awesome mod? 21:22 NakedFury RBA 21:23 NekoGloop Well duh ;) 21:23 bulletrulz back 21:25 TheRedMoodWin HELLO! 21:25 TheRedMoodWin NEKO! 21:25 TheRedMoodWin :D 21:25 TheRedMoodWin AND cosarara97! 21:25 TheRedMoodWin I am here :D 21:26 NekoGloop Oh right, /ignore is refreshed on restart 21:26 TheRedMoodWin Yepp 21:26 NakedFury Neko you can do an add on for technic by redifining the block: Example: Any mod can redefine experimental:tnt by using the name 21:26 NakedFury ":experimental:tnt" when registering it. 21:26 NakedFury (also that mod is required to have "experimental" as a dependency) 21:26 TheRedMoodWin You need to do that again :D 21:26 TheRedMoodWin Btw will you be mad if i use an VPN network to relog? 21:26 TheRedMoodWin :o 21:27 TheRedMoodWin I take that as a big yes :D 21:28 TheRedMoodWin cosarara97 I need to sleep now. I hope you consider me a friend ! 21:28 TheRedMoodWin I willbe sseeing you guys! 21:28 TheRedMoodWin ¨BUY ;D 21:44 Mikeonline the land of sand 21:44 Mikeonline dune 21:44 Mikeonline the building 21:44 Mikeonline of a dynasty :D 21:47 VanessaE well that's it folks - my husband and I just took the biggest plunge of our lives - we bought a house :-) 21:48 NakedFury wooooop! congratulations 21:48 NakedFury new home owners! 21:49 VanessaE \o/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81LQnWPVqSI \o/ 21:49 OldCoder Congrats 21:49 VanessaE (banana splits theme = our celebratory music) 21:51 VanessaE duplication of said house onto redcrab:30401 will commence ASAP :-) 21:53 NekoGloop XD 21:55 NakedFury stop laughing and get to work 21:55 NakedFury I have too much blue gloop ore and not much to use it one 21:56 NakedFury !on not one! 21:57 VanessaE haha 21:57 NekoGloop Blue gloop ore? 21:57 NakedFury yeah your blue ore 21:57 NakedFury I got fucking tons of it 21:57 NekoGloop Which blue one? 21:57 NakedFury as of now 6 full stacks 21:58 NekoGloop Which blue one? 21:58 NakedFury akalin 21:59 NakedFury akalin cable!!!!!! or akalin tubes!!!! 21:59 NekoGloop Uh, again, RealBadAngel hates gloopores. 21:59 RealBadAngel lol 21:59 NakedFury oh my fucking god. dude you are so starved for his approval 22:00 NekoGloop I'd have to completely rewrite his code to make a new cable type. 22:00 NakedFury c55 hates vanessa yet she hasent stopped making minetest thingies 22:00 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, i told ya, get to work and write somethin that uses it 22:00 RealBadAngel instead of dancing :P 22:00 RealBadAngel rotfl 22:00 NakedFury he is a cat, cats dont dance 22:01 NakedFury they meow meow 22:01 RealBadAngel yea yea 22:01 khonkhortisan rofl, t is what it would be in the index 22:01 RealBadAngel im almost done with new look of batbox 22:01 RealBadAngel NakedFury, you will have lotsa more work with textures ;) 22:02 NakedFury I know 22:02 NakedFury lots more 22:02 RealBadAngel you gonna see in half an hour or so 22:02 RealBadAngel made fixes to drill, laser and improved battery box 22:02 NakedFury and I want to try, and I mean try, to create individual ore style textures 22:02 NakedFury not really liking just a recolor of the current ones 22:03 bulletrulz im low on gas and you need a jacket 22:06 bulletrulz brb 22:08 NakedFury omg idea RealBadAngel! 22:08 NakedFury meassuring tool: uses the pos1 and pos2 of WorldEdit to measure distances quickly 22:10 khonkhortisan x, y, z, and diagonal distances reported at the same time 22:12 khonkhortisan "save; load" ~= "copy" 22:12 NakedFury I wish animes didnt have stupid intros so full of spoilers dammit 22:15 OldCoder khonkhortisan, ? 22:16 khonkhortisan OldCoder, https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/issues/17 22:16 khonkhortisan the pictures are clearer than the words 22:18 OldCoder khonkhortisan, reviewing in 5 minutes. Updating Technic with RealBadAngel first. ty. 22:18 khonkhortisan /load is actually doing a merge between the saved nodes and the area they're being loaded in. 22:18 OldCoder Yes 22:18 khonkhortisan okay. 22:18 OldCoder Clearing to air may not be sufficient 22:19 OldCoder What does this imply for meta? 22:19 OldCoder I have not reviewed the image yet 22:19 khonkhortisan the meta not loading with the node would be a separate bug. 22:21 OldCoder All right 22:24 OldCoder khonkhortisan, This is what you figured before 22:24 OldCoder So a clear to air at a minimum is required 22:25 OldCoder I assume that's on the mod's page; I'll check 22:27 khonkhortisan It would be better if it could loop through the area, either clearing to air or loading the node, instead of clearing everything first, then loading, in case it gets interrupted. 22:27 OldCoder Yes 22:28 OldCoder But I'll settle for a working copy ATM 22:28 khonkhortisan /load would just have to run //set air or //dig first for the simplest solution 22:28 OldCoder Yes 22:28 OldCoder I was able to transfer a statue just now 22:28 OldCoder Small object no meta 22:28 OldCoder Seemed to work fine 22:28 OldCoder An entire world is probably going to be pushing it 22:29 OldCoder Should I ask Uberi about the savemeta issue? 22:29 khonkhortisan But you moved the statue into air, right? 22:29 OldCoder Yes 22:29 khonkhortisan Yes, ask or report. 22:29 OldCoder All right ty 22:29 OldCoder How would you summarize the issue? 22:29 OldCoder The missing chest functionality for example 22:30 khonkhortisan /metasave and //metaload removes a chest's inventory completely, instead of clearing it like //save and //load do. 22:31 khonkhortisan I'd say it something like that 22:45 RealBadAngel update for technic is uploaded if some1 want it for offline 22:45 RealBadAngel Oldcoder's US servers will be updated within an hour 22:46 NakedFury did you remember to remove experimental background images this time? 22:46 OldCoder Hi 22:51 RealBadAngel i think so :) 22:51 RealBadAngel try the new battery box, its cool :) 22:52 RealBadAngel also slowed down laser beam a bit and set its acceleration to 0 22:53 OldCoder Updating shortly 22:54 LAD VE??? 22:58 OldCoder ? 22:58 LAD what 22:59 LAD oh im asking for vanessa OldCoder 22:59 OldCoder Oh 22:59 NakedFury my desert project has reached lvl 3 22:59 OldCoder She is celebrating 22:59 LAD whats the project about 22:59 LAD oh ok 22:59 RealBadAngel we dont have atm Vanessa to give away, sorry 23:00 LAD hope shes haveing fun 23:00 khonkhortisan I'm stuck at lvl 1 23:00 LAD lol that sounds so wrong 23:00 RealBadAngel hehehe 23:00 OldCoder U.S. servers going down soon for Technic. Save yourselves! 23:00 NekoGloop Only to someone wrong-minded 23:01 LAD XD 23:01 LAD life is more fun that way though 23:01 NekoGloop Yes. Yes it is. :D 23:01 LAD XD 23:01 LAD oh 23:01 khonkhortisan that's like saying it's better to drink because you have a chance of being an alcoholic 23:02 NekoGloop No it isnt. 23:02 LAD being under a solar panel in techic dous not take the light away 23:02 khonkhortisan wrong-minded people are more likely to do wrong things 23:02 LAD no 23:02 LAD it dous't work like that 23:02 RealBadAngel NakedFury, after update please check how the laser works for ya 23:03 LAD they do wrong-minded thing 23:03 NakedFury i will. got one super charged 23:03 LAD things* 23:03 LAD XD 23:03 khonkhortisan oh. 23:04 LAD lol 23:04 OldCoder U.S. servers back with shiny new Technic 23:04 LAD my technic textures mare messed up 23:04 OldCoder Some sort of Mining Death Laser IIRC 23:04 LAD ohhhhh 23:04 LAD RBA u did that 23:04 RealBadAngel what? 23:04 LAD added the daeth part to the mineing lazer 23:05 RealBadAngel lol 23:05 RealBadAngel check the new shiny batbox 23:05 LAD i did 23:05 NekoGloop Level 2 technic? 23:05 LAD i just got the new update 23:05 NakedFury next part is colored laser and mining robots that go in straight lines for a set amount of blocks 23:05 NekoGloop Your technic gained a level! 23:05 LAD war bot :) 23:05 RealBadAngel no its just got better 23:06 RealBadAngel power level indicator on the sides of the node 23:06 LAD stupid darkness ternd off my solar panel 23:06 LAD oh i see wat u ment my some what of the walking_light mod 23:07 LAD how long will it hold its charge?? 23:07 RealBadAngel flashlight? 23:07 LAD yes 23:07 RealBadAngel havent measured that, but a few minutes at least 23:07 LAD ok 23:08 LAD it might be my computer but it seems a bit laggy the flashlight 23:08 RealBadAngel lags may cause light to "follow" the player 23:08 LAD yea 23:08 NakedFury master nakedfury ready to test technic 2!!! 23:08 LAD its only lagging when i move 23:09 RealBadAngel on my machine its rather smooth 23:09 LAD he'll wipe you with something u dont want to be wiped with if u know what i meen 23:09 LAD wip* 23:09 RealBadAngel looks way better with higher resolution textures 23:09 khonkhortisan whip? 23:09 LAD no wip 23:09 RealBadAngel so lighting is better 23:09 LAD as in wip u with my tawol 23:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, what are the default texture sizes? 23:10 LAD uhhhh 23:10 RealBadAngel 16x 23:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, do you have a 32px version? 23:10 RealBadAngel but some of my machines are made 32x 23:10 RealBadAngel im playing with 128x 23:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, do you have a 32px version? 23:11 RealBadAngel can downscale whole pack in fact 23:11 OldCoder RealBadAngel, provide an addon that can be unpacked on top of Technic 23:11 RealBadAngel but that should be made rather with kinda script 23:11 OldCoder To increase default size to 32px 23:11 OldCoder Rest 23:11 OldCoder Will a straight scale work? 23:11 NekoGloop Oh just PLEASE make the textures 16x always 23:11 OldCoder ? 23:11 RealBadAngel should 23:12 OldCoder Why meoke the textures small? 23:12 OldCoder 32 is not too large 23:12 NekoGloop Uh... 23:12 OldCoder As technic is individual objects 23:12 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, 16x is too low resolution for details needed 23:12 NekoGloop Ok fine then. 23:12 RealBadAngel at least sometimes 23:12 NakedFury mining lasur apparatus is leaving sand in a blinky state. 23:12 RealBadAngel when possible im makin 16x 23:12 OldCoder That should have been meowke 23:13 OldCoder RealBadAngel, make a 32px addon pack 23:13 OldCoder or tell me how to 23:13 RealBadAngel but the machines are almost all 32x 23:13 NekoGloop Be a total douche about the textures 23:13 RealBadAngel its not a big problem since world is not made with machine nodes 23:14 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, seen the batbox? 23:14 NekoGloop No 23:14 NakedFury the laser is leaving the sand mid-jump before they start falling down 23:14 NekoGloop I dont want to. 23:14 dharc OldCoder, have you made a minetest 0.4.3 package for debian? 23:14 OldCoder Not yet but hope to do so this week. The weekend was a bit rougher than expected. 23:14 RealBadAngel OldCoder, i will make it, but it gonna take a while 23:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel, all right 23:15 RealBadAngel it contains now over 250 textures 23:15 OldCoder dharc, There have been a number of other MT advancements 23:15 OldCoder Many new or improved mods, the Calinou world has been repaired and brought online, and I am researching individual avatars. 23:16 OldCoder NekoGloop can be a Neko 23:16 OldCoder I can't wait to see what RealBadAngel will look like 23:16 NekoGloop Hm... 23:16 RealBadAngel hehehe 23:16 NekoGloop I could start that. 23:16 OldCoder I am imagining some sort of Celestial Terminator 23:16 NekoGloop Make it be a nekogloop, literally :3 23:17 OldCoder I just need to be able to retrieve nicknames at the right code level; the rest should be easy 23:17 RealBadAngel NakedFury, indeed. damn sand :) 23:17 NekoGloop The biggest problem would be setting the player texture at client end. 23:17 OldCoder NekoGloop, Nope 23:17 RealBadAngel i will try to fix it 23:18 RealBadAngel i fixed one thing then screwed another lol 23:18 OldCoder NekoGloop, note that they are all the Minetoons character ATM 23:18 OldCoder that is selected by a specific filename 23:18 NekoGloop I know 23:18 OldCoder Modify the code that expects the file to use a different name 23:18 OldCoder and should be good to go 23:18 OldCoder For example: 23:18 OldCoder player_nekogloop.png 23:18 OldCoder If it exists 23:18 dharc OldCoder, what? 23:19 OldCoder Substitutes for player.png 23:19 OldCoder dharc, ? I have spoken above 23:19 OldCoder In reply to your question 23:19 NekoGloop OldCoder: Yes, but, we need to have the client send the server the player texture. 23:24 RealBadAngel NakedFury, fix done 23:24 NakedFury ok 23:25 RealBadAngel so with the next update 23:25 NakedFury im taking a drinking brake so I will test when its on 23:25 RealBadAngel how the batbox behaves? 23:26 NakedFury not tested yet 23:26 dharc OldCoder, you dont have answer if you make a .deb package or not. :S 23:27 OldCoder dharc, I did answer 23:27 OldCoder Not yet but hope to do so this week. The weekend was a bit rougher than expected. 23:27 OldCoder Then I went on to explain what was done instead 23:28 bulletrulz could someone upload the armor mod to a http site for me? 23:28 OldCoder ? 23:28 OldCoder bulletrulz, explain 23:28 OldCoder Sounds easy 23:28 dharc now i understand 23:28 OldCoder You just need a host? 23:29 bulletrulz OldCoder, yeah 23:29 OldCoder Not following; are you the armor maintainer? 23:30 OldCoder If so, fine; I'll host 23:30 OldCoder But why not use GitHub? 23:30 OldCoder That's where a number of mods go 23:30 bulletrulz OldCoder, i use a tether app on my phone so i cant go to https sites 23:30 OldCoder GitHub is https? 23:31 OldCoder and tether prevents this? 23:31 Mikeonline n8 all 23:31 bulletrulz yes 23:31 bulletrulz it wont let me go on https sited 23:40 LAD i gtg 23:56 OldCoder JangoFett154, wb 23:57 JangoFett154 hi 23:57 JangoFett154 is maker of WorldEdit online? 23:59 OldCoder Nope 23:59 OldCoder Not crucial ATM