Time  Nick            Message
00:14 bas080_         Minetest server not working makes me sad
00:15 _2cool_         Website is up, forum is down
00:15 bas080_         intresting. database issue. Hacked?
00:16 bas080_         Or maintenance?
00:16 _2cool_         Don't think so
00:16 _2cool_         Went down
00:45 leo_rockway     http server is down. DB is okay.
00:46 leo_rockway     that's what VanessaE said earlier, that celeron said.
01:23 vicscandl       /win 5
01:23 vicscandl       hahaha
01:25 NakedFury       hey
01:35 * MiJyn         is away: Gone phishing
01:57 khonkhortisan   hhahaha konversation has a dirt background now
01:58 khonkhortisan   papyrus looks nice
01:59 GTRsdk          which forum software did the minetest forums use?
02:00 GTRsdk          ah punbb
02:00 vicscandl       aye
02:00 vicscandl       was looking itup
02:00 khonkhortisan   µc-delayer clocks aren't persistant between server restarts
02:02 vicscandl       khonkhortisan: how is the clock data being stored?
02:02 vicscandl       obv. it is not, or this would not happen. :)
02:03 vicscandl       {{not familiar with code, but do lots of forensics daily}}
02:03 khonkhortisan   well I have a delayer and a µc programmed to be NOT, so the wires keep switching. The delayer uses an on_timer I think and the other data is just whether the wires are on
02:03 khonkhortisan   no it uses minetest.after
02:04 vicscandl       i'm going to go with "ask jeija"
02:04 vicscandl       hrm... funny you should say mintest after...
02:05 khonkhortisan   why?
02:06 vicscandl       http://bit.ly/PbXu2d
02:06 vicscandl       was just reviewing this commit...
02:08 vicscandl       {{no real correlation to your issue, just kinda funny to me}}
02:09 khonkhortisan   I see that param in the luadoc
02:09 NakedFury       what you mean: what a coincidence that you mention what im reviewing
02:09 vicscandl       NakedFury: yea, could not spell coincidence correctly...
02:09 vicscandl       thx
02:10 vicscandl       ok, lets see if my latest batch of memory fixes borks with VanessaE's 512 texture pack...
02:13 NakedFury       what is in a memory fix? in general.
02:14 vicscandl       well, i've been writing code for over 30 years; i've seen my share of it
02:14 vicscandl       i've worked in many industries, including gaming...
02:14 vicscandl       i'm a project manager and i review code daily in my real job.
02:14 vicscandl       ie: i teach n00b's how to be real programmers.
02:15 vicscandl       so i've been going thru the code and finding some "issues" that i'm taking cracks at to try and see about trimming the memory and cpu usage of the current build...
02:15 vicscandl       there seems to be some memory leaks somewhere... i'm gonna play mario bros on this shit.
02:16 vicscandl       all client stuff... most of my fixes to date are client based, not server... :)
02:24 NakedFury       how do you spot something that "leaks" memory?
02:25 vicscandl       experience, honestly.
02:25 vicscandl       ie: i've seen other things that leak due to how the code is set up.
02:25 vicscandl       if i see similar code "issues", i change and am testing...
02:26 vicscandl       found some static variables that should not be and shit
02:26 NakedFury       so it mostly comes to experience in coding?
02:26 vicscandl       for me, yes.
02:26 vicscandl       i started coding at 8yo, i'm 38+
02:27 NakedFury       wow
02:28 vicscandl       my old man is an EE nerd, computers have been around my house for ages.
02:28 vicscandl       :)
02:28 vicscandl       one of my first was a TI-99 that was only a 16 char LCD output breadboard that we built.
02:29 khonkhortisan   it took me eight hours to notice my pull request was merged
02:29 vicscandl       nice!
02:31 NakedFury       what did you do khonkor?
02:31 khonkhortisan   I built a mesecon keyboard that displays letters in TI-84 font
02:31 NakedFury       I know that, I meant the pull request
02:31 khonkhortisan   I made the microcontrollers display their programming just like a sign
02:33 khonkhortisan   I'm going to assume that a TI-99 isn't a calculator produced by texas instruments
02:33 vicscandl       no, its a computer
02:34 vicscandl       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti-99
02:34 vicscandl       thats right you kids, we had a WHOPPING 32k to program in... eat a dick
02:35 vicscandl       spending 3 hours to trim 12 bytes of asm code because you ran out.
02:36 vicscandl       wikipedia: "The TI-99/4A had a 16-bit TMS9900 CPU running at 3.0 MHz"
03:28 cornernote      hi
03:28 cornernote      who broke the forums ?
03:28 khonkhortisan   hello edgenote
03:29 khonkhortisan   they've been down for a while
03:29 MiJyn           no, it's actually a very specialized hacker team who didn't like c55 :P
03:29 cornernote      someone should check the mysql server at 10.8.0.26 on port 110
03:29 cornernote      who runs mysql on port 110 anyway ?
03:30 vicscandl       isn't 110 pop?
03:30 MiJyn           lol yeah
03:31 cornernote      and who leaves their debug messages on in production =)
03:31 khonkhortisan   someone that expects it to break
03:31 MiJyn           (me)
03:32 cornernote      thats why you have a log
03:32 vicscandl       cornernote: hahaha, i said that the other day too
03:33 cornernote      warning: could not connect to payment gateway http://yoursecuresite.com using username: yourusername and password: yourpassword
03:33 cornernote      believe it or not, i have seen a production site do that
03:33 MiJyn           I think I have done that once (except "password hash")
03:34 cornernote      any error not intended for the user should not be displayed in a production system
03:34 cornernote      debug, output all the junk you want... but if DEBUG==0 then user should see a blank page instead of a serious error
03:35 khonkhortisan   y'all are typing on papyrus http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=48ee724
03:35 MiJyn           believe it or not, I saw some websites using "reset your password" actually give the password instead asking for a new one
03:35 cornernote      MiJin, i see that all the time =(
03:35 cornernote      they email your password in plain text
03:35 cornernote      which means they store it in plain text
03:35 MiJyn           exactly
03:36 MiJyn           "oh, we _never_ look at the passwords... never... even if it's right in our reach..."
03:36 cornernote      khonkhortisan lol
03:36 khonkhortisan   which means they have the password to other sites the unsuspecting user uses
03:36 cornernote      even if the password is hashed, most sites dont do it right
03:37 cornernote      needs to be salted (using a long enough salt to avoid dictionary attacks)
03:37 cornernote      many just md5(pass)
03:37 MiJyn           whats the point of a salt again?
03:38 cornernote      say your password is "pass123", encrypted version (with a salt) is different every time
03:38 cornernote      so my pass and your pass can be the same (pass123), but in DB they are different strings
03:38 khonkhortisan   is the salt stored next to the password?
03:38 cornernote      sometimes
03:38 MiJyn           ah
03:39 cornernote      salt can be something like the username, or user created date
03:39 cornernote      or a random number
03:39 khonkhortisan   or md5 of all user data minus the password
03:39 MiJyn           right
03:39 khonkhortisan   you changed your profile picture? Sorry, we can't access your password anymore.
03:39 cornernote      heres a good article from a friend who found a minor hole in popular php ecommerce salts: http://openquery.com/blog/oneway-password-crypting-flaws
03:41 MiJyn           "minor"?
03:41 cornernote      the problem with that salt, is it only makes 256 variations... so i just need 256 dictionaries + the user table, then i can decode every users password
03:42 cornernote      i think its minor, because you still need access to the user table
03:42 cornernote      and if you have access to that, you probably dont need to login as a user anyway =)
03:43 cornernote      but perhaps they found an sql injection, got the password hashes... then they can use this flaw to learn the user passwords
03:43 cornernote      now i use this - http://www.openwall.com/phpass/
03:44 cornernote      its described here -- http://www.openwall.com/articles/PHP-Users-Passwords
03:45 cornernote      they not only salt, but they stretch
03:46 cornernote      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_strengthening
03:51 cornernote      reading scriptapi.cpp -- you can set your own auth function -- get_auth
03:51 khonkhortisan   my website would be suseptible to "forced browsing" if I had anything important on it
03:52 cornernote      hello openid
03:53 cornernote      ahh, its in builtin/auth.lua
03:56 cornernote      ok, only some handler functions are exposed, i think the hashing is done in c++
04:01 cornernote      the hash is in translatePassword() .. but i cant find that function defined
04:02 cornernote      ahh, string.cpp
04:02 cornernote      no salt
04:07 cornernote      created an issue for it - https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/221
04:11 khonkhortisan   clearing with worldedit caused it to generate a cave
04:21 orbitaldecay    any word on when the forum will be back up?
04:22 khonkhortisan   falling sand destroys circuits
04:23 orbitaldecay    indeed
04:25 MiJyn           :(
05:07 * VanessaE      wanders in
05:23 VanessaE        yay!  forums are back
05:31 VanessaE        make up my mind! :-)
05:53 khonkhortisan   ItalicCoder
05:53 VanessaE        hey khonkhortisan.
05:53 khonkhortisan   hello
05:54 khonkhortisan   I'm trying to get worldedit to not unprogram µCs when moving them
06:02 VanessaE        oh good
06:03 VanessaE        I'm sure a lot of people will want to be able to move their circuits around or distribute them in worldedit form instead of a zip of world files
07:09 GTRsdk          So what do you think of remotely controlling a minetest server with a web panel?
07:16 RealBadAngel    hi
07:16 RealBadAngel    VanessaE: youre here?
07:18 VanessaE        no
07:18 VanessaE        I'm over THERE ------->
07:18 VanessaE        ;)
07:21 VanessaE        hey Trollinou ;-)
07:23 RealBadAngel    hehehe
07:24 RealBadAngel    you named grate with "intake"
07:24 VanessaE        yes
07:24 VanessaE        seemed to make more sense
07:24 RealBadAngel    and what about output one?
07:24 VanessaE        storage_tank_{x or z}
07:25 RealBadAngel    either drop "intake" or make output one too
07:25 VanessaE        mmm
07:25 VanessaE        the sort of grating used for intake doesn't seem to make sense as an outlet
07:25 RealBadAngel    coz now we r missin one element
07:25 VanessaE        maybe I'll make a short segment of pipe for that?
07:26 VanessaE        or can you just make any unconnected pipe act as an output perhaps?
07:27 VanessaE        (just designate the 100000/010000/001000/000100/000010/000001 pipes as outputs)
07:27 RealBadAngel    hmmm, not a good idea
07:27 VanessaE        hm
07:27 RealBadAngel    i thought to use grate as input output, dep on the side of pump is connected to
07:28 RealBadAngel    but you named it intake :)
07:29 RealBadAngel    and because of the rules i took, i need somethin different than just a pipe
07:29 RealBadAngel    pipes are conductors
07:29 VanessaE        lemme think about it a bit
07:29 VanessaE        but,
07:29 RealBadAngel    outtake grate?
07:29 VanessaE        surely the six "stubs" can't be conductors?
07:30 VanessaE        they can't connect anywhere without a nearby pipe to connec tto
07:30 RealBadAngel    look, when im  calculatin flow
07:30 RealBadAngel    i take positions of 2 elements in the network connected by pipes
07:31 RealBadAngel    ie grate and pump, pump and tank
07:31 RealBadAngel    cant just at some point use a pipe as output
07:31 RealBadAngel    it will break whole system
07:31 VanessaE        yes but the little stubs aren't pipes :-)
07:31 VanessaE        they're stubs :-)
07:32 VanessaE        but,
07:32 VanessaE        I'll make something
07:32 RealBadAngel    hmmm
07:32 RealBadAngel    grate for me is also logical as output
07:33 VanessaE        I'll copy the intake and call the result "outlet"
07:33 RealBadAngel    :) and thats ok with me :)
07:33 VanessaE        that way they can be modeled differently later on
07:33 RealBadAngel    sure
07:34 RealBadAngel    i just made pipeline with like 600 pipes and 50 valwes for testin
07:34 VanessaE        wow
07:35 RealBadAngel    wanted to check if it can have any influence on FPS
07:35 RealBadAngel    to have such enormous wire/pipes system
07:35 RealBadAngel    works ok
07:36 VanessaE        it will be called "pipeworks:outlet" and will connect only from the top like an intake does
07:36 RealBadAngel    k
07:37 RealBadAngel    i found a good usage for the pipelines already
07:37 RealBadAngel    i will use it to cool down my nuclear reactors
07:39 RealBadAngel    when you will fail with it, reactor will overheat
07:39 VanessaE        NICE
07:39 VanessaE        stand by, testing the changes
07:39 RealBadAngel    and finally make a nice deep hole
07:41 VanessaE        note to self:  it would help if I copy the changes over to where my install of minetest can see them
07:41 RealBadAngel    hehehe
07:41 RealBadAngel    i dont know how you do it, i mean with github
07:42 RealBadAngel    i made two installs of minetest
07:42 RealBadAngel    sandbox and release
07:42 RealBadAngel    when tests are done, move mod from sandbox
07:43 VanessaE        changes pushed.
07:43 RealBadAngel    github is configured to catch release directory
07:43 VanessaE        (obviously it seems to work at least as well as anything else does at this point)
07:43 RealBadAngel    so i just joined my old ways and github together
07:44 VanessaE        cool
07:44 VanessaE        ok I gotta run
07:44 VanessaE        bedtime :-)
07:44 VanessaE        see you in some hours
07:44 RealBadAngel    hehe, ok
07:44 RealBadAngel    c ya
07:44 VanessaE        in the meantime, the outlet is now in the repos, so merge that damn pull request already ;-)
07:44 VanessaE        night
11:02 VanessaE        good morning all
11:02 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: *poke*
11:04 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
11:05 VanessaE        hey PilzAdam
11:40 RealBadAngel    hi
11:41 RealBadAngel    whassup VanessaE?
11:41 VanessaE        guten morgen :-)
11:41 VanessaE        not much, just crawled out of bed about an hour ago
11:41 VanessaE        and you *still* haven't merged that pull request :D
11:41 * VanessaE      ducks
11:41 RealBadAngel    hier ist abend schon ;)
11:42 RealBadAngel    im usin your repository
11:42 VanessaE        ah ok
11:42 RealBadAngel    havent paid too much attention to github, configured it and its on the shelf
11:43 RealBadAngel    addin now needed stuff to the mod
11:43 RealBadAngel    im missin some essential things
11:43 VanessaE        is the outlet grate et.al to your liking?
11:44 RealBadAngel    havent checked the outlet yet
11:44 VanessaE        ok
11:44 RealBadAngel    gimme a minute
11:46 RealBadAngel    imho perfect
11:46 VanessaE        good :)
11:46 RealBadAngel    distinct and cool lookin, both of them
11:46 RealBadAngel    please consider grates done :)
11:47 VanessaE        done for now anyway :D
11:47 RealBadAngel    dont even try to fix them
11:47 RealBadAngel    theyre cool
11:47 RealBadAngel    dont DARE to fix them even
11:48 VanessaE        later on when my artsy-creative side is in force, I'll start working up nice-looking models for the other stuff
11:48 RealBadAngel    k, the tanks shall have at least 10 models
11:49 RealBadAngel    to show how many fluids is stored inside
11:49 RealBadAngel    from empty to full, 10% step
11:49 VanessaE        stand by
11:51 RealBadAngel    btw, with this single variable, anythin youre adding, fits the network
11:51 RealBadAngel    without any changes
11:52 RealBadAngel    built net with over 600 pipes and other elements and all is workin realtime
11:52 VanessaE        NICE
11:52 VanessaE        brb
11:52 VanessaE        working on the tank.
11:52 * RealBadAngel  is on stand by mode
11:54 RealBadAngel    btw we havent thought bout what kind material the pipes are built of?
11:54 VanessaE        steel
11:54 RealBadAngel    corrosion
11:54 RealBadAngel    rust
11:54 VanessaE        stainless steel
11:55 RealBadAngel    how do we get ss?
11:55 VanessaE        maybe smelt a steel ingot into stainless? I dunno
11:55 Calinou         poor RealBadAngel asks for super shotgun in minetest
11:55 Calinou         :p
11:55 VanessaE        or maybe we just don't care about the idea of rust etc
11:55 RealBadAngel    shotgun?
11:56 RealBadAngel    hi calinou
11:56 Calinou         nevermind :P
11:56 RealBadAngel    we r talkin pipes :P
11:57 * Calinou       is downloading a windows build of chromium
11:57 Calinou         irony: using google chrome to download chromium
11:57 RealBadAngel    lol
11:58 RealBadAngel    got the ss idea: its an alloy
11:58 RealBadAngel    chromium is in :)
11:58 Calinou         lol
11:58 Calinou         BackupCoder is on IRC as root
11:58 RealBadAngel    In metallurgy, stainless steel, also known as inox steel or inox from French "inoxydable", is defined as a steel alloy with a minimum of 10.5%[1] to 11% chromium content by mass
11:59 Calinou         wikipedia much
11:59 RealBadAngel    yes, another reason for me to finish alloy furnace damn
12:02 Calinou         haha, chrome is version 21, chromium is 23
12:07 Calinou         http://minetest.net/forum
12:07 Calinou         222 topics in feature discussion
12:07 Calinou         444 in bugs
12:08 Calinou         lol
12:08 PilzAdam        there should be 404 topics in bugs and problems
12:08 PilzAdam        moderators should delete 40 :)
12:08 RealBadAngel    lol
12:09 RealBadAngel    btw Calinou, you were right with "rainbow caves"
12:10 RealBadAngel    sdzen installed gloop ores on the server
12:10 Calinou         PilzAdam, 404 topic not found :p
12:10 * Calinou       finished installing chromium, btw
12:10 Calinou         google lost 29 dollars :D
12:10 PilzAdam        firefox
12:11 Calinou         chromium lacks flash unfortunately :/
12:11 Calinou         only use for it is speedtest anyway
12:12 RealBadAngel    now the caves are full of funny stuff, with funny names, and you have no glue what that shit is for. even names tell nothin
12:24 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: give that a try.
12:25 VanessaE        11 tanks, pipeworks:storage_tank_F_{x or z} where F = some number 0 to 10.
12:25 VanessaE        e.g. pipeworks:storage_tank_5_z
12:25 VanessaE        and so on
12:25 VanessaE        all participate in the autoplace algo like usual.
12:26 RealBadAngel    oke, downloading it
12:27 VanessaE        also each tank is in group tankfill=F+1 where F = the tank number, so you can use that to categorize them if needed.
12:27 VanessaE        (e.g. a 50% full tank is group tankfill=6)
12:32 VanessaE        another tweak just went in
12:32 RealBadAngel    i can c just old brown model
12:32 VanessaE        in creative inventory, that is all you should see
12:32 RealBadAngel    nope, nothin
12:32 RealBadAngel    just the old one
12:32 VanessaE        then re-download :-)
12:34 VanessaE        the new model shows a green/black bar on the right of its front side
12:34 RealBadAngel    now i get it
12:34 VanessaE        (which I tried to make look like glass)
12:35 RealBadAngel    can see the bar
12:35 VanessaE        ok
12:38 RealBadAngel    removed creative=1 for a while
12:38 RealBadAngel    cool
12:38 RealBadAngel    hi sdzen
12:38 VanessaE        that what you were looking for? :-)
12:38 VanessaE        hey sdzen
12:38 sdzen           ello
12:38 RealBadAngel    yeah, its fine, maybe the coulour just
12:39 RealBadAngel    to be stainless stell
12:39 RealBadAngel    the model is ok
12:39 VanessaE        eh
12:39 VanessaE        ok
12:39 VanessaE        gimme a minute
12:40 RealBadAngel    fill indicator is cool
12:44 VanessaE        stand by
12:47 RealBadAngel    btw have you found some time to listen to the skaven's compilation?
12:48 VanessaE        no sorry
12:48 VanessaE        soon :-)
12:48 RealBadAngel    hehehe ok
12:48 * VanessaE      tests the replacement textures
12:48 RealBadAngel    hmmm bout the tanks
12:49 RealBadAngel    i just built a few towers out of them
12:49 VanessaE        mmhmm>
12:49 VanessaE        ?
12:49 RealBadAngel    each segment have side slots
12:49 VanessaE        yes
12:49 RealBadAngel    maybe just drop the slots?
12:49 VanessaE        can't do anything about that
12:49 RealBadAngel    then the towers could look better
12:50 VanessaE        in the real world, that's how it is too with such stackable modules
12:50 VanessaE        manufacturers just make one model that can go anywhere in a stack or be used separately.
12:50 RealBadAngel    right
12:51 VanessaE        there, updated the textures.
12:51 VanessaE        please re-download/.
12:51 RealBadAngel    i will have to code to exclude connections of pipes to stacked ones
12:51 VanessaE        why?
12:51 RealBadAngel    so just the bottom one
12:52 RealBadAngel    users will then end with pipes connected to every level of tower
12:52 RealBadAngel    which could be just stupid
12:52 VanessaE        besides, I'm going to re-do the tanks model just slightly, to give the fittings a raised appearance (like the pump, but far shorter, only the flange is raised)
12:53 RealBadAngel    i want bottom one as a base, with connections
12:53 RealBadAngel    upper ones will increase storage
12:54 VanessaE        fair enough
12:54 RealBadAngel    and that will be indicated with the bar
12:54 RealBadAngel    when some1 could connect pipes to the upper one not the bottom
12:55 VanessaE        I suppose I could create an "addon" module that the autoplace algorithm could use if the user attempts to add it on top of an existing tank, but that seems weird.
12:55 RealBadAngel    indicators could run out of sense
12:55 VanessaE        (such would have only top/bottom fittings)
12:55 RealBadAngel    look, upper tank filled 100%
12:56 * VanessaE      thinks...
12:56 RealBadAngel    lower 0%
12:56 RealBadAngel    and theyre connected
12:56 VanessaE        well one assumes you'd make the fill algorithm detect when fluid needs to be "shifted down" to the lower tanks :-)
12:56 VanessaE        else you will end up with exactly that when the user empties the bottom tank :-)
12:56 RealBadAngel    thats what im talkin about
12:57 RealBadAngel    but dont blame me i want to make it easier :)
12:57 VanessaE        so I should create an add-on tank then?
12:57 RealBadAngel    hmmm
12:57 RealBadAngel    maybe just drop side holes?
12:57 VanessaE        base tank would have side and top fittings, add-on tanks would have top and bottom only.
12:58 VanessaE        no, that reduces piping flexibility I think
12:58 RealBadAngel    pipes could join as usual
12:58 RealBadAngel    just no visible holes
12:58 VanessaE        no
12:58 VanessaE        that looks wrong
12:58 RealBadAngel    but allows to tower them
12:58 VanessaE        "why is the pipe joining this?  there's no fitting there."
12:59 RealBadAngel    whith holes user can think, there are holes
12:59 RealBadAngel    why the heck i cant put a pipe there??
12:59 VanessaE        ok so I'll make an add-on tank with no side fittings.
12:59 Calinou         that's what she said, RealBadAngel
13:00 RealBadAngel    hehehe
13:00 VanessaE        brb
13:00 RealBadAngel    think of it this way, side holes in tanks r so perfectly done that almost invisible
13:00 RealBadAngel    :)
13:01 Basstard`       I wish she had holes in the side.
13:02 RealBadAngel    rotfl
13:02 RealBadAngel    we talkin serious stuff here
13:03 Basstard`       So am I.
13:03 RealBadAngel    i believe so
13:03 Basstard`       :)
13:06 RealBadAngel    ive done craftin and minerals for the pipes meanwhile
13:07 RealBadAngel    and the alloy furnace to do so
13:07 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: testing the changes now
13:08 RealBadAngel    steel + chromium smelted together in ratio 4:1 gives stainless steel
13:11 RealBadAngel    now i can also override bronze crafting recipe
13:11 VanessaE        fixing the changes :D
13:12 RealBadAngel    from now on it will have to be smelted
13:13 VanessaE        ok that works
13:13 RealBadAngel    can i dl?
13:13 VanessaE        now to add a special case for trying to place one storage tank on top of another
13:13 VanessaE        or should I require them to make a special expansion tank?
13:14 VanessaE        (not that any of this has crafting recipes yet)
13:14 RealBadAngel    hmmm dont think so
13:14 VanessaE        don't think so what? :-)
13:14 RealBadAngel    since theye full node boxes next one covers lower one
13:14 VanessaE        *nod*
13:15 VanessaE        but I mean,
13:15 VanessaE        do I make the user build an expansion tank and place it, or do I let them just build and place a bunch of the regular tank and have the computer convert them to expansion tanks where it's needed?
13:16 VanessaE        already the fittings behave the way you suggested
13:16 RealBadAngel    lemme think a bit
13:16 VanessaE        hrm
13:16 VanessaE        maybe they shouldn't let pipes connect at all to an expansion tank?
13:17 VanessaE        but storage tank could connect pipes to all three fittings?
13:17 RealBadAngel    that was my proposal
13:17 VanessaE        (top, +x, -x)
13:17 RealBadAngel    no holes, just connections to sides
13:17 VanessaE        meh
13:17 VanessaE        that's wrong
13:17 RealBadAngel    and then no problem
13:17 VanessaE        the user will expect a visible fitting
13:18 RealBadAngel    pipe will autoconnect
13:18 VanessaE        no, I don't like that.  a pipe should only ever connect to fitting
13:18 RealBadAngel    but then we could end with too many models needed
13:19 VanessaE        I've already worked them all into my autoplace routine :-)
13:19 VanessaE        just not the issue of stacked tanks
13:19 RealBadAngel    which is exaclty what im talkin about
13:19 VanessaE        now I'm confused :-)
13:20 RealBadAngel    look
13:20 RealBadAngel    make a tower of tanks
13:20 RealBadAngel    each level has holes, right?
13:20 VanessaE        no
13:20 VanessaE        I just added something to fix that :-)
13:21 RealBadAngel    hah, shall i download next ver?
13:21 VanessaE        at the bottom of the stack would be pipeworks:storage_tank_{x or z}
13:21 VanessaE        er 'scuse me
13:21 RealBadAngel    check routine wont go further up
13:22 VanessaE        at the bottom of the stack will be pipeworks:storage_tank_{number}_{x or z}
13:22 RealBadAngel    that will carry just fillin up routine
13:22 VanessaE        anything placed on top of it will be pipeworks:expansion_tank_{number}
13:22 VanessaE        (no X/Z)
13:22 RealBadAngel    clear
13:22 VanessaE        the bottom of the stack has fittings at +X, -X, and +Y.
13:22 VanessaE        the others have fittings only at +Y and -Y
13:23 RealBadAngel    what if user place one BELOW?
13:23 VanessaE        well,
13:23 VanessaE        the logical thing would be,
13:24 VanessaE        for the user to only get "storage tank" and have the computer check above/below, converting between the two types of tanks as needed
13:24 VanessaE        which means the user has to only manage one single type of device for this purpose.
13:24 VanessaE        such a routine would be trivial I guess
13:24 RealBadAngel    or just dont allow buildin towers downwards
13:25 VanessaE        hm
13:25 RealBadAngel    level connected with pipes is zero level, can go only up
13:25 RealBadAngel    no matter whats below
13:26 VanessaE        hrm
13:26 VanessaE        so the user has to remove the bottom tank, dig a hole, place it there, than add a tank on top of it between it and the rest of the stack?
13:26 RealBadAngel    no
13:26 RealBadAngel    at zero level, ground level or whatever
13:27 RealBadAngel    tank, pipes are placed, right?
13:27 VanessaE        mostly
13:27 RealBadAngel    now the user tries to do somethin stupid
13:27 RealBadAngel    he digs a hole under tower
13:27 VanessaE        (I'm trying to allow for aerial pipes as well, e.g. an oil refinery or pipes-screensaver sort of appearance)
13:27 RealBadAngel    and tries to place another tank there
13:28 RealBadAngel    my vote is to dont even look at it
13:28 VanessaE        hrm
13:29 RealBadAngel    then when some1 will come and ask i made somethin stupid and it didnt worked
13:29 RealBadAngel    the answer will be clear
13:29 VanessaE        so only scan downwards when placing a tank.  if ~= storage or expansion tank, place storage tank with side fittings.  else place expansion tank with top/bottom fittings only
13:30 RealBadAngel    yes
13:30 VanessaE        ok
13:30 RealBadAngel    only up
13:30 VanessaE        right, they can only stack upwards
13:30 VanessaE        now.
13:30 VanessaE        what about connecting a PIPE to one of those top/bottom fittings?
13:31 RealBadAngel    dont allow
13:31 VanessaE        not even for the base storage tank?
13:31 RealBadAngel    just the base
13:31 RealBadAngel    not the expansions
13:31 VanessaE        ok.
13:31 RealBadAngel    once one will have connecions it shall become base
13:31 * VanessaE      makes the appropriate tweaks
13:32 RealBadAngel    and then only way is up
13:32 RealBadAngel    next pieces will then become stackable kind
13:32 RealBadAngel    with no other possible connections just the up/down tower
13:33 VanessaE        ok
13:34 RealBadAngel    all is clear?
13:34 VanessaE        as mud ;-)
13:34 RealBadAngel    lol
13:35 * RealBadAngel  tries to run a pump to have some fresh and clear water and clarify that muddish situaton ;)
13:37 RealBadAngel    ok, i have stainless still here
13:37 VanessaE        stand by
13:38 RealBadAngel    waitin for ideas for pipe crafting recipes
13:38 RealBadAngel    *steel
13:38 Basstard`       I hope you replicate our world as close as possible.
13:39 RealBadAngel    you bet, you will b able to go to the bar round the corner and have a beer
13:39 RealBadAngel    any more questions?
13:42 VanessaE        ok, now let's see what THIS breaks :-)
13:42 Basstard`       The levee.
13:44 VanessaE        nope, just a tank or two ;)
13:45 VanessaE        ok that works
13:45 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: now here's a question.
13:46 VanessaE        what SHOULD happen if the user places one tank and then another right below the first?
13:46 VanessaE        (at present, the newly-placed tank becomes a regular tank and the one above remains unchanged)
13:47 RealBadAngel    if the one above has pipes connection (is a base)
13:48 VanessaE        *nod*
13:48 RealBadAngel    then puttin one below should do nothin
13:48 VanessaE        "do nothing" as in...?
13:48 RealBadAngel    wont connect, wont count
13:48 VanessaE        ok
13:48 VanessaE        so it looks like a separate tank on the circuit?
13:49 RealBadAngel    yes
13:49 VanessaE        ok
13:49 VanessaE        so the user connects pipes to it like usual, it just won't participate in the rest of the stack above it
13:49 RealBadAngel    and the circuit wont even check it
13:49 VanessaE        ehh...
13:49 RealBadAngel    i will use pipelike to check it
13:49 RealBadAngel    look
13:49 VanessaE        ok
13:50 RealBadAngel    once i find object tank with pipelike=1
13:50 RealBadAngel    i will go there with tank routine
13:50 RealBadAngel    and will look just up
13:50 VanessaE        ok
13:50 RealBadAngel    dont care whats below
13:51 RealBadAngel    pipe will lead me to the base
13:51 VanessaE        so it just won't add to the stuff above, but it *will* still store fluids if pipes are connected to it
13:52 RealBadAngel    look
13:52 VanessaE        and your algorithm will only look for *expansion* tanks above a base too
13:53 RealBadAngel    yes
13:53 VanessaE        ok
13:53 VanessaE        ok
13:53 RealBadAngel    and consider that
13:53 RealBadAngel    1st placed tank can carry pipelike=1
13:53 VanessaE        Text output suppressed:  last message repeated 37 times.
13:53 VanessaE        ;)
13:53 RealBadAngel    means is able to connecto to pipes
13:54 RealBadAngel    put another ones with pipelike=0
13:54 RealBadAngel    no more possible pipe connections
13:54 VanessaE        got it
13:55 RealBadAngel    when on y-1 is tank, pipelike=0
13:55 RealBadAngel    and we got everythin solved
13:56 VanessaE        ok
13:56 VanessaE        changes uploaded.
13:56 VanessaE        give it a try :-)
13:56 VanessaE        give yourself pipeworks:storage_tank_0_x 99
13:56 VanessaE        and stack them up :-)
13:58 RealBadAngel    in a few minutes, transport came, have to send the package
13:58 RealBadAngel    brb
13:59 VanessaE        you know, if you were particularly ambitious, you could make technic check the tanks electronically and do something interesting if one is full enough
13:59 VanessaE        (like actuate a valve or so)
14:00 VanessaE        :)
14:00 Basstard`       With steam.
14:01 _2cool_         Anyone here?
14:01 VanessaE        hi
14:01 Basstard`       We're all there.
14:01 _2cool_         It's been so quiet around here...
14:02 sdzen           you must have broken it
14:02 Calinou         hi _2cool_
14:03 _2cool_         hello
14:04 _2cool_         I wish I could get minecraft sometime, but I don't see the point in paying nearly $30 for it.
14:05 Isabella        yeah minetest is free :D
14:05 _2cool_         Yep
14:05 VanessaE        screw proprietary software
14:05 VanessaE        FOSS FTW. :-)
14:05 _2cool_         But Minetest has to find a new direction to turn in before Mojang sends a C&D
14:06 Basstard`       They won't.
14:06 RealBadAngel    @vanessa: lets make the basic system work, then we can take care of overflows
14:06 VanessaE        ok
14:06 Isabella        i think you have to get java as well, java is slow
14:06 VanessaE        s/overflows/extended features/
14:06 Basstard`       _2cool_: Us Swedes are 2 cool for that.
14:06 _2cool_         Right, Notch has made his millions
14:06 RealBadAngel    i was thinkin lately bout connectin to mesecons
14:06 VanessaE        Isabella: for minecraft yes.  For minetest, no.
14:07 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: that sounds good
14:07 Isabella        how old is notch
14:07 _2cool_         RBA: wat
14:07 RealBadAngel    when full it could send logic 1
14:07 Isabella        yes i know abou tminetst,, no java
14:07 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: how about when >50% = logic 1, when <30% = logic 0, anything in between keeps the last known state
14:07 VanessaE        that's similar to TTL in the real world
14:07 RealBadAngel    fuzzy logic? lol
14:08 _2cool_         I like how Notch feels about yohoho pirates though...
14:08 VanessaE        _2cool_: lemme guess, "free publicity!!!"
14:08 VanessaE        ?
14:08 _2cool_         yep
14:08 RealBadAngel    i got fuzzy logic for one semester
14:08 RealBadAngel    really fuzzy stuff lol
14:08 _2cool_         did you see the uproar about his Twitter post?
14:08 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: well I'm just thinking let's keep it TTL-like, since that's what mesecons seeks to act like anyway for the most part
14:09 _2cool_         http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/937516-notch-tells-minecraft-fan-just-pirate-it/
14:09 RealBadAngel    so 1 full
14:09 RealBadAngel    anythin other means its not full
14:09 VanessaE        no
14:09 RealBadAngel    with 0/1 there are no states like half full, half empty
14:10 _2cool_         Yep, mesecons can't be pessimistic or optimistic
14:10 VanessaE        too bad mesecons doesn't support high-Z states :-)
14:10 RealBadAngel    but its ok
14:10 VanessaE        ok fine, how about 1 = >80% full, 0 = less than full
14:10 RealBadAngel    tank will send a signal when full
14:10 VanessaE        0 = less than 80% I mean
14:11 RealBadAngel    that leaves place for non logic stuff
14:11 VanessaE        the point is you don't want to have to add a de-bounce circuit
14:11 _2cool_         if only mesecon energy would run throug water, I assume that's what you're talking about
14:11 Basstard`       Why not random in between?
14:11 RealBadAngel    20% of who the fuck knows whats goin on
14:11 VanessaE        and if you just check on greater or less than some specific value, you'll get a ping-pong signal out of it
14:12 RealBadAngel    thats not TTLish at all :)
14:12 VanessaE        sure it is.
14:12 * _2cool_       sad
14:12 VanessaE        sorta :-)
14:12 RealBadAngel    yup, sorta
14:12 RealBadAngel    fuzzy logic thats it
14:12 VanessaE        _2cool_: naw, just talking about measuring the fill of a steel tank
14:12 RealBadAngel    not empty not full
14:12 RealBadAngel    somethin in between
14:13 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: well my point is that officially, TTL is something like <1.2v = logic 0, >2.5 = logic 1, anything in between is invalid and should be treated as "keep the last state"
14:13 RealBadAngel    ok ok
14:13 Isabella        whoever is here say aye
14:13 RealBadAngel    tell me
14:13 Isabella        aye
14:13 VanessaE        Isabella: please don't repeatedly ask that.
14:13 RealBadAngel    does mesecons support fuzzy states?
14:13 Isabella        :D
14:13 VanessaE        whoever's here will talk :-)
14:13 Isabella        i love doing that
14:13 Basstard`       If you ask someone if the glass is half full or half empty you get different answers, so, it should be random?
14:13 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: nope.  logic 0 or 1.
14:13 RealBadAngel    so problem solved
14:14 RealBadAngel    1 full
14:14 RealBadAngel    but
14:14 RealBadAngel    tank will have a variable itself
14:14 RealBadAngel    HowManySourcesDoICarry
14:15 RealBadAngel    all clear now?
14:15 Isabella        how old is Notch
14:15 RealBadAngel    30+
14:15 RealBadAngel    dont know exactly
14:15 VanessaE        not sure
14:15 VanessaE        I figured mid 30's
14:15 Isabella        when did he make minecraft, like what age
14:16 VanessaE        _2cool_: I have to admit - I don't like Minecraft at all (from the videos I've seen), but I have to admire him for saying that.
14:16 RealBadAngel    first of all, minecraft nor minetest
14:16 RealBadAngel    is a thing to be called: done
14:16 Isabella        who knows Herobrine
14:16 _2cool_         It sounds like everything h***ish in Minecraft
14:16 VanessaE        Isabella: this is not a minecraft channel, we don't generally talk about the playing of that game here.  Only about features etc.
14:17 _2cool_         Oh, sorry
14:17 Isabella        oh, so its minetest i guess
14:17 RealBadAngel    sometimes i do too
14:17 RealBadAngel    heheh
14:17 VanessaE        besides, herobrine is a fan-fiction in the minecraft world - he doesn't actually exist afaik.
14:17 _2cool_         I'll talk over PM if you like vanessa
14:17 Isabella        im just saying about Herobrine, its not the game
14:17 Isabella        brb
14:17 VanessaE        _2cool_: no it's okay, I'm talking about let's not make this a minecraft general discussion channel.  but it's okay to talk about it in the context of a competitor :-)
14:17 RealBadAngel    exactly
14:18 RealBadAngel    we are like 0,5-1 yrs behind MC
14:18 RealBadAngel    but the acceleration is way faster
14:18 RealBadAngel    same day, next year
14:19 RealBadAngel    it can happen MC is behind us
14:19 VanessaE        I just don't want MT to become a clone of MC
14:19 _2cool_         Minecraft went in the direction of medieval and fantasy. Maybe if Minetest went a different path...
14:19 _2cool_         Which it most likely will
14:19 Isabella        cool
14:19 VanessaE        _2cool_: it will.  that's c55's intent in fact.
14:19 RealBadAngel    im forcin technic way ;)
14:20 _2cool_         Hey, as long as bobblocks doesn't become default:, I'm okay
14:20 VanessaE        I LIKE bobblocks :(
14:20 RealBadAngel    but i liked one thing
14:20 _2cool_         Buyes?
14:20 _2cool_         er, yes?
14:21 RealBadAngel    minetest forum is the place with do what the fuck you want licensed content in whole net
14:21 _2cool_         wat
14:21 RealBadAngel    i think i shall change my licence to fit it :)
14:22 _2cool_         is the database back up yet?
14:22 _2cool_         YES
14:22 _2cool_         Mod finding time!
14:22 RealBadAngel    minetest community is a community of coders/moders mostly
14:22 _2cool_         not me!
14:23 _2cool_         I'm just here for moral support ;)
14:23 RealBadAngel    then learn you lazy ass :P
14:23 _2cool_         :(
14:24 RealBadAngel    believe its nothin better like the first node designed by you
14:24 RealBadAngel    the feelin is great
14:24 _2cool_         So has anyone made an adventure mod for minetest yet? :P
14:24 RealBadAngel    cornernote did
14:24 Basstard`       NetHack?
14:24 RealBadAngel    check his Skyblock
14:25 _2cool_         I was just on that too!
14:25 RealBadAngel    and Seablock in the future
14:25 _2cool_         wow
14:25 _2cool_         Cool
14:25 _2cool_         And any mobs mods other than the crashy Animals mod?
14:26 RealBadAngel    for mobs time will come
14:26 _2cool_         Hopefully in mods and not the actual game
14:27 RealBadAngel    many mods concepts goes into actual game
14:27 _2cool_         Yes, but mobs are a step towards Minecraft
14:27 RealBadAngel    we do have somethin minecraft does not have
14:27 RealBadAngel    and tryin hard to get
14:28 RealBadAngel    modding API
14:28 _2cool_         Then how DO minecraft mods work?
14:29 RealBadAngel    interfering with code
14:29 _2cool_         Sounds crashy :P
14:29 RealBadAngel    each game update causes mod to stop workin
14:29 RealBadAngel    more complex mod, more time for modder to fix it
14:29 _2cool_         Sounds like a huge problem
14:30 RealBadAngel    betweeen versions of game
14:30 RealBadAngel    for most complex mods it takes up to 2 months
14:30 RealBadAngel    for just update
14:30 _2cool_         if Notch would release mod dev updates?
14:31 RealBadAngel    Notch is not longer involved in minecraft
14:31 _2cool_         Oh
14:31 RealBadAngel    since half a year or somethin
14:31 RealBadAngel    he has employees to do so
14:31 RealBadAngel    like Jeb
14:32 _2cool_         Then why is he still controlling the business? like telling people to pirate Minecraft?
14:32 RealBadAngel    hes a boss, doin boss stuff
14:32 _2cool_         like a boss
14:32 _2cool_         sorta
14:33 VanessaE        there, that's all done
14:33 RealBadAngel    dl?
14:33 _2cool_         what did you find out?
14:33 VanessaE        had to get dressed - got something potentially life-changing to do today :-)
14:33 _2cool_         oh
14:33 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: the mod has been waiting for you to re-download for 37 mins :-)
14:34 RealBadAngel    oh, you were naked till now? :O
14:34 VanessaE        no, not naked, just in my sleepwear.
14:34 RealBadAngel    hahahaha
14:34 _2cool_         Well, I got to go
14:34 VanessaE        cy--...
14:34 VanessaE        ya..
14:34 RealBadAngel    new job?
14:35 VanessaE        no
14:35 VanessaE        (I'm retired anyway)
14:35 VanessaE        it's a s3kr1t :-)
14:35 RealBadAngel    uh oh
14:36 RealBadAngel    good luck anyway :)
14:36 VanessaE        thanks :-)
14:36 VanessaE        so, go download the mod already :-)
14:37 RealBadAngel    did did
14:37 VanessaE        ok get to testing :D
14:37 RealBadAngel    that zipball manner makes me nervous
14:38 VanessaE        so git pull instead
14:38 RealBadAngel    i mean necesarity to change the name
14:38 VanessaE        it's better to do that anyway
14:38 VanessaE        (why does it have to be such a pain to code in windows?)
14:38 RealBadAngel    what pain
14:39 RealBadAngel    i can feel no pain at all ;)
14:39 VanessaE        well things like git are inherently command-line-oriented (and easier to do, to that end), editors and compilers too
14:39 RealBadAngel    pain was when you saved your piece of code to tape
14:39 VanessaE        windows just doesn't come with much to help the developer get started like linux does
14:39 RealBadAngel    and the tape was broken
14:39 RealBadAngel    that was OUCH and pain
14:40 VanessaE        hey I used to do that.  when I was your(kid's) age, I saved stuff to tape all the time.  It took 30 minutes to save 20K and we LIKED it that way!!
14:40 VanessaE        :-)
14:40 Isabella        what
14:40 VanessaE        what what?
14:40 Isabella        what what what
14:40 RealBadAngel    look, friend of mine bought an Atari 800xl
14:40 VanessaE        my condolences.
14:41 Isabella        cool
14:41 Isabella        ...
14:41 RealBadAngel    but cannot afford to buy tape recorder
14:41 RealBadAngel    so what he did
14:41 Isabella        was...
14:41 RealBadAngel    borrowed one, loaded River Raid
14:42 Isabella        brb
14:42 RealBadAngel    put the power supply outside (on the balcony)
14:42 RealBadAngel    to be better cooled
14:42 RealBadAngel    and kept River Raid loaded for a couple of weeks
14:44 VanessaE        jeez
14:45 RealBadAngel    not to mention he drilled holes for the cables
14:46 VanessaE        wouldn't it have been easier to hack in an interface to use a regular audio tape recorder? :-)
14:46 whirm           did he had a badass SAI just in case?
14:46 RealBadAngel    later on we did that
14:47 RealBadAngel    for c64 and atari
14:48 RealBadAngel    even later there was a "turbo" solution
14:48 VanessaE        yup
14:48 RealBadAngel    givin tvice as much voltage on the motor
14:48 VanessaE        and then disk drives, hard disks, and now solid state storage is the norm (at least for the C64) if you want more than a 5 1/4 disk.
14:49 RealBadAngel    to make the tape goes faster
14:49 RealBadAngel    and it worked
14:50 RealBadAngel    of course better tapes were needed
14:51 RealBadAngel    but seein cassette player runnin speed x4 = priceless
14:52 RealBadAngel    with my own i had to mount it firmly to the desk
14:53 RealBadAngel    because vibrations were causin errors
14:55 VanessaE        heh
14:56 VanessaE        to be fair I got fed up with using a tape driver after a few months and did everything I could to convince my parents to buy me a proper disk drive :-)
14:56 VanessaE        -r
14:56 RealBadAngel    testin tanks now
14:57 RealBadAngel    oh yeah
14:57 VanessaE        ok
14:57 RealBadAngel    youre great
14:57 Isabella        lol
14:57 VanessaE        of course I am :-)
14:58 RealBadAngel    just remindin you :P
14:59 VanessaE        hey TLP
14:59 RealBadAngel    now its ok
15:00 RealBadAngel    got all the elements now
15:00 VanessaE        and they work like you'd expect>
15:00 VanessaE        ?
15:00 RealBadAngel    yes
15:00 VanessaE        damn I'm good :-)
15:00 RealBadAngel    damn youre real good
15:00 * RealBadAngel  bows
15:01 VanessaE        hey you're equally good - you're adding the actual water movement action :-)
15:01 VanessaE        water/lava/whatever
15:01 RealBadAngel    im just a technician
15:01 VanessaE        brb
15:04 RealBadAngel    heh
15:04 RealBadAngel    one fundamental question
15:04 RealBadAngel    how many water/lava sources shall one tank hold?
15:05 VanessaE        I think 10 nodes
15:05 VanessaE        so the percent = the meter = the number of nodes held therein
15:06 RealBadAngel    not too few?
15:06 VanessaE        well
15:06 RealBadAngel    i was thinkin hundreds
15:07 VanessaE        really?
15:07 RealBadAngel    like 100 for a tank
15:07 VanessaE        well
15:07 VanessaE        how about 50 water, 10 lava, 30 of any kind of oil-like fluid, 100 of any kind of gas-like fluid
15:08 VanessaE        (with the oil/gas numbers being just suggestions to mod authors who use these pipes)
15:09 RealBadAngel    i think fixed number for all
15:09 VanessaE        mmmh
15:10 VanessaE        ok
15:10 VanessaE        but some low value
15:10 VanessaE        make the user stack those tanks up
15:10 RealBadAngel    10 is too low
15:10 RealBadAngel    way too low
15:10 RealBadAngel    100 is in the schema
15:10 RealBadAngel    i mean indicator
15:11 VanessaE        well the indicator is a percentage :-)
15:11 RealBadAngel    10 20 30... 100
15:11 VanessaE        hrm
15:11 RealBadAngel    hehe
15:11 VanessaE        well it could be steps of 3 or 5 or something also :-)
15:11 VanessaE        nothing says it *has* to be an even multiple of 10 :-)
15:12 RealBadAngel    well, i had such problem with powered tools
15:12 RealBadAngel    wear is 1-65535
15:12 RealBadAngel    mirrored even
15:13 RealBadAngel    had to write my own conversion functions
15:13 RealBadAngel    to had a range like 0-10000 or whatever
15:14 RealBadAngel    tried to do that without conversion and calculate it on the fly
15:14 RealBadAngel    leaks, errors, oversflows etc
15:14 VanessaE        ah
15:15 Isabella        :P
15:16 RealBadAngel    btw: isabella: who the heck r you?
15:16 Isabella        Isabella
15:16 VanessaE        maybe she's notch in disguise ;-)
15:16 RealBadAngel    suprise
15:16 Isabella        :(
15:17 VanessaE        you're welcome here Isabella
15:17 RealBadAngel    lol
15:17 VanessaE        we're just kidding :-)
15:17 Isabella        :(
15:17 RealBadAngel    dont like funny folks?
15:18 Isabella        its fine
15:19 RealBadAngel    chill out
15:19 Isabella        ...
15:19 RealBadAngel    we really were jokin just
15:20 RealBadAngel    anybody is welcome here
15:20 Isabella        RealBadAngel: maybe your notch
15:20 RealBadAngel    when notch comes i can give him some privs on the server
15:21 Isabella        1 min
15:21 RealBadAngel    at least notch could fly ;)
15:22 whirm           lol
15:22 VanessaE        ha!
15:22 RealBadAngel    yeah yeah
15:22 Notch           what
15:23 RealBadAngel    we are all *so* stupid ;)
15:23 whirm           RealBadAngel: now you have to give her privs
15:23 Guest81238      hahahaha
15:23 Guest81238      brb
15:24 RealBadAngel    dont teach dog how to find a bone
15:25 whirm           I think we need to teach her to use the /nick command :D
15:26 RealBadAngel    or how 2 hide ip
15:26 RealBadAngel    nvm
15:27 RealBadAngel    its ok to have some fun :)
15:27 whirm           XD
15:27 RealBadAngel    i do remember like 15 yrs ago on ircnet
15:27 Isabella        what
15:27 RealBadAngel    the new update is online!
15:27 Isabella        i need privs now :D
15:28 RealBadAngel    press alt+F4 to download it!
15:28 Isabella        thats to close this tab
15:28 whirm           Isabella: to close the tab is ctrl+w
15:28 RealBadAngel    wise one
15:28 RealBadAngel    hehehe
15:28 whirm           XDD
15:29 Isabella        nope i tried alt+f4 and said close all tabs yes or no
15:29 RealBadAngel    but it worked like really
15:29 whirm           Isabella: because it closes the whole window :)
15:29 RealBadAngel    50+ disconnects
15:29 RealBadAngel    that was FUN
15:29 Isabella        thats what i meant :)
15:30 Isabella        whirm: hi
15:31 RealBadAngel    ok, Isabella. we came to the conclusion youre not alt+f4 user.
15:31 RealBadAngel    maybe wiser
15:31 RealBadAngel    could you introduce yourself?
15:31 whirm           Isabella: hi :)
15:32 Isabella        im Isabella
15:32 Isabella        hi whirm again
15:32 whirm           RealBadAngel: it was funnier when h4x0rs asked for your IP to POD you and you gave them 127.100.63.34 :D
15:33 RealBadAngel    lol
15:33 Isabella        lol
15:33 RealBadAngel    Isabella: anythin more?
15:33 whirm           $ yes "Hi Isabella"
15:34 Isabella        NOPE
15:34 RealBadAngel    i meant hi im isabella, 18, 40 yrs experience in c++, love minetest
15:34 RealBadAngel    ;)
15:35 Isabella        really
15:35 Isabella        ...
15:36 RealBadAngel    could mention of course all those papparazzi standin outside too
15:37 RealBadAngel    time to switch music
15:37 Isabella        Im Isabella, i live in USA im 17, i am an A/C student, and i like the poutdoora
15:37 Isabella        outdoors
15:37 PilzAdam        im 17 too
15:37 PilzAdam        but german
15:37 Isabella        cool
15:38 RealBadAngel    A/C student? does it mean you have to put your fingers into wall sockets to feel the current?
15:39 Isabella        ?, no i get As and Cs
15:39 whirm           lol
15:40 Isabella        lolz
15:41 RealBadAngel    uh ok
15:41 RealBadAngel    youre doing converting
15:42 RealBadAngel    analog to digital
15:42 Isabella        huh
15:43 RealBadAngel    analog to digital converter
15:43 whirm           RealBadAngel: that would be A/D
15:43 RealBadAngel    ac or adc
15:44 Isabella        im an a and c sstudent
15:44 whirm           there are really weird conversations in this channel sometimes...
15:44 Isabella        yes there is
15:44 RealBadAngel    yup
15:44 RealBadAngel    aint these funny?
15:44 Isabella        wow
15:44 Isabella        lol
15:45 RealBadAngel    whirm: heard the music pack Skaven gave us?
15:45 whirm           yes, I think they are a masonic conspiration so I don't work
15:45 whirm           RealBadAngel: nope
15:45 RealBadAngel    hold on
15:46 * whirm         holds
15:46 Isabella        * so does Isabella
15:46 whirm           Isabella: use /me
15:46 Isabella        oh yeah
15:46 whirm           /me something
15:46 * Isabella      holsa
15:47 RealBadAngel    http://realbadangel.pl/techic_mod/music/skaven_music_pack.zip
15:47 Isabella        :P
15:47 * Isabella      holds
15:47 RealBadAngel    play. make it loud.
15:47 RealBadAngel    rock the house
15:48 whirm           RealBadAngel: is this for minetest?
15:48 RealBadAngel    yes
15:48 PilzAdam_       lol kubuntu just crashed
15:49 whirm           I've just listened to 20 secs of the first track but isn't it a little bit hardcore to put it in the game?
15:49 VanessaE        so use xubuntu instead :-)
15:49 RealBadAngel    its a proposal
15:49 whirm           I mean if we had gatling guns and lots of zombie invasions...
15:49 whirm           :)
15:49 RealBadAngel    music of old times
15:49 RealBadAngel    PC demoscene like 20 yrs ago
15:50 Isabella        VanessaE: who UbunuNerd?
15:50 VanessaE        I don't know him
15:50 VanessaE        (not well anyway)
15:50 RealBadAngel    me neither
15:50 VanessaE        I was talkin to PilzAdam.
15:51 RealBadAngel    bout?
15:51 VanessaE        he uses kubuntu, which is a Linux distribution.
15:51 Isabella        oh, i know UbuntuNerd anyway
15:51 VanessaE        I use Xubuntu, another variant of the same
15:51 VanessaE        both are based on Ubuntu.
15:51 VanessaE        UbuntuNerd obviously based his name on that
15:51 Isabella        oh
15:51 whirm           I used to make MODs 15 years ago :)
15:51 VanessaE        whirm: 12 years ago I wrote the first MOD player for the C64 :-)
15:52 RealBadAngel    VanessaE: what about listenin? a bit?
15:52 VanessaE        still proud of that accomplishment.
15:52 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: I will later.
15:52 RealBadAngel    i can hear that since 2 days :)
15:52 whirm           VanessaE: I wasn't good at all :D but had a friend who made some quite fun happy hardcore with Impulse tracker I think it was
15:53 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: time is short lately.  didn't you know the day only has about 10 hours for me, versus 24 for everyone else? ;-)
15:53 RealBadAngel    i am makin now Rama II 100% loud
15:53 RealBadAngel    i guess
15:53 RealBadAngel    but
15:53 RealBadAngel    you have pointed me at Skaven's work
15:54 RealBadAngel    now face the consequences :)
15:54 VanessaE        haha
15:55 VanessaE        I just pointed out one or two of his tunes :-)
15:55 VanessaE        you went apeshit asking him for distribution permission et.al :-)
15:55 iqualfragile    pilzadam: could you please unzip the folders? (git, ambience) i think git isnt for hosting .zips but for version-controll
15:55 RealBadAngel    and i found them, found more, found him
15:55 PilzAdam        iqualfragile, why?
15:56 iqualfragile    so it would be great for any server-admin to have them unzipped so he could update your mod by running git pull
15:56 PilzAdam        i will see what i can do
15:56 VanessaE        neko
15:56 RealBadAngel    with many files, gfx or music or whatever theres a wise way
15:56 NekoGloop       :3
15:57 NekoGloop       Yes?
15:57 RealBadAngel    as Sdzen made
15:57 PilzAdam        Hi NekoGloop
15:57 NekoGloop       VanessaE: Yes?
15:57 RealBadAngel    compress all server cache
15:57 VanessaE        um.  hi?
15:57 VanessaE        :-)
15:57 NekoGloop       :3
15:57 RealBadAngel    let clients dowload it
15:57 RealBadAngel    so the connection is easy, no wait
15:58 RealBadAngel    and you can have in cache whatever you want
15:58 RealBadAngel    we have tested it with music files
15:59 RealBadAngel    whole cache is like 30mb compressed
16:00 RealBadAngel    lotsa mods
16:00 RealBadAngel    one dowload and client just connects
16:01 iqualfragile    just 14 mb for me
16:09 VanessaE        bbiab.
16:26 RealBadAngel    back, was afk for a while
16:26 NekoGloop       Lol
16:27 RealBadAngel    ooo, gloopish master
16:27 RealBadAngel    hi :)
16:27 NekoGloop       :3
16:27 NekoGloop       Have you actually tried toolsizes?
16:27 RealBadAngel    sorry no
16:27 NekoGloop       Heh
16:27 RealBadAngel    have to much my own stuff
16:28 NekoGloop       Lol
16:28 RealBadAngel    when i visid server i used to play folks r suprised
16:29 RealBadAngel    even jeija's mesecons waits for testin
16:29 RealBadAngel    and i will need to use them
16:32 RealBadAngel    btw i took a look at the code
16:32 NekoGloop       For what?
16:32 RealBadAngel    of your tools
16:32 PilzAdam        every modder looks at code of others
16:32 NekoGloop       And?
16:34 RealBadAngel    you waitin for oh ah and hooray?
16:34 NekoGloop       Just want to know why you are bringing this up
16:35 RealBadAngel    rainbow caves?
16:35 RealBadAngel    damn you
16:35 RealBadAngel    you really made this
16:36 RealBadAngel    i joined my server, to build some of my stuff
16:36 RealBadAngel    diamonds needed, rare stuff
16:36 RealBadAngel    went diggin
16:36 NekoGloop       At least i made the one only generate above sea level
16:37 RealBadAngel    whole walls covered with ores
16:37 RealBadAngel    with names sayin nothin
16:37 NekoGloop       Uh... What lol
16:37 NekoGloop       All of them have tooltips
16:38 RealBadAngel    yes
16:38 RealBadAngel    what the fuck is alato?
16:38 RealBadAngel    tell me
16:38 RealBadAngel    simple words
16:39 iqualfragile    you kann make tools out of it
16:39 RealBadAngel    sure
16:39 NekoGloop       Metallic ore, generates above sea level, hard in composition, and is also the only gloopore to be craftable into tools and blocks.
16:39 RealBadAngel    go on
16:39 PilzAdam        iqualfragile, kann is german and not english
16:39 iqualfragile    oh, verdammt
16:40 RealBadAngel    i got him, ich kann deutsch
16:40 PilzAdam        yay
16:40 iqualfragile    naja… so nen bisl
16:40 RealBadAngel    then next of the ores
16:40 NekoGloop       If there was irl alatro it would repel water
16:40 RealBadAngel    sorry sir
16:41 NekoGloop       I'm thinking of making alatro blocks destroy water around it
16:41 iqualfragile    wir sollten nen eigenen channel aufmachen in dem wir uns nicht unterhalten oder so sondern lediglich dazu verabreden in diesem channel hier auf deutsch zu trollen
16:41 NekoGloop       Like mc sponge
16:41 RealBadAngel    you just made a shitload of coulours for the cave rainbow
16:41 NekoGloop       Uh no
16:41 RealBadAngel    yes
16:41 NekoGloop       Kalite at least is unique
16:42 iqualfragile    DOUBLERAINBOW!
16:42 RealBadAngel    lol
16:42 NekoGloop       You can eat kalite
16:42 RealBadAngel    its ok to make them
16:42 NekoGloop       And put it in a furnace
16:42 RealBadAngel    its an excersise to do
16:42 NekoGloop       And make torches
16:42 RealBadAngel    you took your lessons
16:43 RealBadAngel    but should drop such a mod
16:43 NekoGloop       Be happy that deserts have ores
16:43 RealBadAngel    THAT ACTUALLY WAS A GREAT IDEA
16:43 NekoGloop       :3
16:43 RealBadAngel    but when i went deeper
16:44 NekoGloop       Yeh it goes to normal stone
16:44 RealBadAngel    tryin to find copper
16:44 NekoGloop       Yes?
16:44 RealBadAngel    i was sayin like fuuuuuuuck. gloop all around
16:44 NekoGloop       Gloopores shouldnt affect how moreores spawn
16:45 NekoGloop       Want me to turn down the spawning algorithm?
16:45 iqualfragile    nekogloop: lets start an new mod
16:45 NekoGloop       Why, iqual
16:45 iqualfragile    we create dye-ores
16:45 NekoGloop       Lol no
16:45 RealBadAngel    join our server
16:45 iqualfragile    one for every colour
16:45 RealBadAngel    i mean sdzen's one
16:45 RealBadAngel    and play here
16:45 iqualfragile    i have got my own
16:45 NekoGloop       RealBadAngel: On ipad atm
16:45 RealBadAngel    sir, your ores are the plague
16:46 RealBadAngel    my suggestion
16:46 NekoGloop       Go on
16:46 RealBadAngel    leave some of them
16:47 NekoGloop       Dont like them, remove the mod
16:47 RealBadAngel    stick to desert generation
16:47 RealBadAngel    its your patent
16:47 RealBadAngel    make 2-3, only on desert
16:47 NekoGloop       Akalin is only in desert
16:47 RealBadAngel    stick to it
16:47 NekoGloop       And coal and iron are in desert stone
16:48 RealBadAngel    on desert there are no confilcts
16:48 RealBadAngel    you were 1st
16:48 RealBadAngel    rule there
16:48 NekoGloop       How about this: SHOVE IT
16:49 RealBadAngel    shut up :P when i go down, see 15 colours on the wall of cave
16:49 RealBadAngel    ....
16:49 RealBadAngel    sick
16:49 iqualfragile    just add some abm-s to turn them into stone
16:50 iqualfragile    und remove the rest of the mod
16:50 RealBadAngel    i also added some minerals to game
16:50 RealBadAngel    very rare
16:50 RealBadAngel    but yours are everywhere
16:50 PilzAdam        iqualfragile, #minetest-ger
16:51 RealBadAngel    limit yourself for christ sake
16:51 NekoGloop       Shaddup
16:51 Isabella        hi
16:51 RealBadAngel    uh oh
16:52 Isabella        its me :(
16:52 RealBadAngel    noticed
16:52 iqualfragile    fuck
16:52 iqualfragile    everybody hide
16:52 iqualfragile    quick
16:52 Isabella        from wo!!!
16:52 iqualfragile    whaa, there she is
16:52 RealBadAngel    neko, lady came to visit ya
16:52 iqualfragile    she has got me
16:52 Isabella        (me :(  )
16:52 iqualfragile    run
16:52 RealBadAngel    say hallo at least
16:52 iqualfragile    leave me behind
16:53 iqualfragile    save yourselves
16:53 NekoGloop       Who dafuq?
16:53 Isabella        its me
16:53 NekoGloop       ...?
16:53 RealBadAngel    go on
16:53 Isabella        they dont like me
16:53 RealBadAngel    dont be shy
16:53 Isabella        what
16:53 iqualfragile    im gona distract isabella whle you run
16:53 Isabella        ...
16:53 NekoGloop       Who is Isabella lol
16:53 iqualfragile    YES
16:54 RealBadAngel    notch in disguise maybe
16:54 RealBadAngel    who knows
16:54 NekoGloop       LOL
16:54 iqualfragile    she pretended to be female
16:54 RealBadAngel    but very young
16:55 vicscandl       hahahhaa
16:55 NekoGloop       What sorcery is this
16:55 NekoGloop       Damn
16:55 PilzAdam        NekoGloop,  <Isabella> Im Isabella, i live in USA im 17, i am an A/C student, and i like the poutdoora
16:55 NekoGloop       Wrong chat -network- even
16:56 iqualfragile    jeah
16:56 RealBadAngel    copy later with ac/dc sockets
16:56 RealBadAngel    hehehehe
16:57 RealBadAngel    http://realbadangel.pl/techic_mod/music/skaven_music_pack.zip
16:58 RealBadAngel    waitin for opinions
17:02 Isabella        iqualfragile: RUN!
17:02 * PilzAdam      runs
17:02 RealBadAngel    just joined and run?
17:03 RealBadAngel    are you zombie or somethin equal scary?
17:03 Isabella        no iqualfragile hates me, he kept saying run away, so i left and came back on and said run
17:03 PilzAdam        why does he hate you?
17:03 * Isabella      runs and cries away from iqualfragile
17:03 whirm           Isabella: he fears you
17:03 RealBadAngel    ok folks
17:03 RealBadAngel    command is RUN
17:04 PilzAdam            3
17:04 RealBadAngel    run for your life!
17:04 PilzAdam            2
17:04 PilzAdam            1
17:04 * PilzAdam      RUN!!!!
17:04 whirm           he's afraid of 17 years old girls from USA that study A/C and like poutdoora
17:04 whirm           is a childhood trauma he has
17:05 whirm           *its
17:05 PilzAdam        lol
17:05 RealBadAngel    jhhahahhaa
17:05 Isabella        really, i am a and c student and like outdoors, i could see what i was typing because 1 of my kittens was standing infront of me
17:05 vicscandl       hahhahaha
17:05 Isabella        its not funny, i have forgiveness
17:06 vicscandl       i don't
17:06 RealBadAngel    what you guys talkin about? i thought that was bout this hill i run away
17:06 vicscandl       all your base
17:06 Isabella        RealBadAngel: dont run
17:06 NekoGloop       ARE BELONG TO US
17:06 PilzAdam        dont yell
17:07 * RealBadAngel  stops: sorry m'am? you were saying?
17:07 * whirm         starts delivering tranquilizer pills to everyone
17:07 * NekoGloop     zzzzz....
17:08 PilzAdam        someone want to talk about minetest?
17:08 RealBadAngel    what the fuck is this??? ;)
17:08 Isabella        Is Herobrine in Minetest
17:08 RealBadAngel    seeeee
17:08 * PilzAdam      hits RealBadAngel
17:08 RealBadAngel    dont even try
17:08 Isabella        Hahahaha
17:09 * Isabella      laughs and rolls on floor
17:09 * whirm         throws cats at everyone
17:09 * PilzAdam      throws dogs
17:09 * NekoGloop     is thrown :P
17:09 PilzAdam        ??
17:09 PilzAdam        lol
17:10 RealBadAngel    dont throw male ones here plz
17:10 * Isabella      throws PilzAdam
17:10 NekoGloop       Derp
17:10 RealBadAngel    i do own black female beast here
17:10 * PilzAdam      throws back
17:11 Isabella        guyss search on youtube Freak Out, its a ride at the fair that we are having. that ride is there, im want to try it out
17:11 RealBadAngel    m'am
17:11 Isabella        sup
17:11 RealBadAngel    freak r here
17:11 RealBadAngel    no need to look for them
17:12 whirm           XDDDD
17:12 * whirm         nods
17:12 RealBadAngel    the question is:
17:12 RealBadAngel    r u sure thats the place you want to be in?
17:13 Isabella        where
17:13 RealBadAngel    damn me
17:13 Isabella        what!
17:13 Isabella        where!
17:13 RealBadAngel    somebody explain it her
17:13 Isabella        what?
17:13 PilzAdam        where you get so many mouths?
17:13 PilzAdam        (this joke is old :( )
17:14 Isabella        huh?
17:14 whirm           RealBadAngel: if she knows herobrine she wants to be here
17:14 RealBadAngel    lol
17:14 Isabella        wtf
17:14 whirm           PilzAdam: I told you past week , at the chinese shop
17:14 RealBadAngel    ok, whos gonna be the herobrine for her?
17:15 Isabella        >:(
17:15 whirm           don't look at me, I would end in jail or something
17:15 PilzAdam        whirm, NekoGloop has stolen every mouth from there
17:15 RealBadAngel    neko
17:15 NekoGloop       Wut
17:15 RealBadAngel    your call
17:15 RealBadAngel    be that man
17:15 whirm           PilzAdam: I don't care, I can copypaste them, this is the internet you know?
17:15 Isabella        Omg
17:16 PilzAdam        i heard from it....
17:16 NekoGloop       I returned them
17:16 RealBadAngel    refused
17:16 RealBadAngel    NekoGloop: registered as herobrine
17:17 NekoGloop       Wut
17:17 Isabella        Herobrine
17:17 Isabella        not herobrine
17:17 * NekoGloop     has no eyes now w00t
17:17 RealBadAngel    go go Johny
17:18 * NekoGloop     grabs his diamond sword
17:18 * Isabella      does too
17:18 * PilzAdam      grabs his fire sword
17:18 Isabella        now w00t
17:18 Isabella        hahaha
17:18 * NekoGloop     hits isabella twice from behind
17:18 NekoGloop       Ded
17:18 * PilzAdam      revives Isabella
17:18 * RealBadAngel  plays some romantic music for the scene
17:19 NekoGloop       No she respawned
17:19 RealBadAngel    with a kiss?
17:19 RealBadAngel    wooowish
17:19 NekoGloop       No
17:19 PilzAdam        ;)
17:20 Isabella        ... :) uh ok
17:20 RealBadAngel    man, youre glookish, i meam luckish, well u got luck
17:21 Isabella        i never have luck /me looks down
17:21 Isabella        heehehe
17:21 Isabella        i looks down
17:21 Basstard`       What do you see down there?
17:21 RealBadAngel    and whats up?
17:22 RealBadAngel    are we goin to play ping pong?
17:22 NekoGloop       She sees grassy dirt blocks
17:22 Isabella        i am playing minetest
17:22 RealBadAngel    wow
17:22 RealBadAngel    serious stuff
17:23 Isabella        i have to flower/farming/harvesting mods on so i am gardening, with my friend
17:23 RealBadAngel    ooops
17:23 Isabella        ip: 192.168.0.109
17:23 NekoGloop       Uh
17:23 RealBadAngel    more ooops
17:23 NekoGloop       Unless you forward a port...
17:23 NekoGloop       We cant play with you
17:24 RealBadAngel    i guess you just failed in quest lookim for a coder husband
17:24 Isabella        30000
17:24 Isabella        why cant play
17:25 PilzAdam        internet fail!
17:25 NekoGloop       Because stupid security settings
17:25 Isabella        mine?
17:25 RealBadAngel    your mine?
17:26 Isabella        my server...
17:27 Isabella        im confused
17:27 * PilzAdam      too
17:27 Basstard`       I fused a cone.
17:27 RealBadAngel    my fuses seems to work ok
17:28 Basstard`       What about your cones?
17:28 RealBadAngel    what cones have to do with fuses??
17:29 Basstard`       Con(e)fusion.
17:29 RealBadAngel    ah, higher logic
17:30 RealBadAngel    are you sure milady is prepared for it?
17:31 RealBadAngel    Isabella?
17:33 * RealBadAngel  plays Omniphilia - Rama II
17:34 * PilzAdam      watchs a video about internet addiction
17:34 RealBadAngel    ha
17:34 _2cool_         c55.me server is kinda... downish
17:34 RealBadAngel    non addicted one spoken :P
17:35 PilzAdam        _2cool_, http://minetest.net/servers.php
17:35 PilzAdam        celeron55's server is currently down for an undefined period of time. Apologies.
17:35 _2cool_         hmm, what server to go on?
17:35 Basstard`       RealBadAngel: Are you a real bad angel?
17:35 * RealBadAngel  expects a PilzAdams facepalm right away
17:35 PilzAdam        _2cool_, localhost :)
17:35 _2cool_         *facepalm*
17:36 _2cool_         any freebuilds?
17:36 PilzAdam        http://servers.minetest.ru/
17:37 RealBadAngel    i got a server space
17:37 RealBadAngel    but hold on
17:38 RealBadAngel    shit
17:38 _2cool_         oh no
17:38 PilzAdam        what??
17:38 _2cool_         what was that?
17:38 RealBadAngel    split
17:38 RealBadAngel    hackers paradise
17:38 _2cool_         yep
17:38 _2cool_         but what is a split
17:38 Basstard`       "Netsplit"
17:39 _2cool_         so what is it
17:39 PilzAdam        idk
17:39 RealBadAngel    i remeber times when irc network has nodes in ww2 towers
17:39 _2cool_         That''s pretty stupid
17:40 RealBadAngel    before they collapse
17:40 RealBadAngel    such situation
17:40 RealBadAngel    bein on the other end
17:40 RealBadAngel    = takin ownage of the channel
17:41 NekoGloop       Wut?
17:41 _2cool_         netsplit
17:41 PilzAdam        @all, wb!
17:41 _2cool_         wat
17:41 _2cool_         I know nothing about IRC
17:41 RealBadAngel    i bet there are not so many folks who knows what split is for ;)
17:42 Basstard`       RealBadAngel: Let me guess, UnderNet, eh?
17:42 RealBadAngel    takin over
17:42 Isabella        me
17:43 Isabella        again
17:43 RealBadAngel    what?
17:43 _2cool_         Thanks tomaw, you just split the net!
17:43 * Isabella      runs away from everyine
17:43 Basstard`       RealBadAngel: What networks did you use to be on?
17:44 RealBadAngel    youre sayin hello, fuck you or what to everyone?
17:44 Isabella        me?
17:44 RealBadAngel    you
17:44 Isabella        me?
17:44 _2cool_         I made it through the netsplit!
17:44 _2cool_         Achievement Get!
17:45 RealBadAngel    Basstard`: i was usin irc since the begining
17:45 Basstard`       RealBadAngel: Uh huh, what network/s?
17:45 _2cool_         Still
17:45 RealBadAngel    ircnet
17:45 Basstard`       Ah
17:45 RealBadAngel    #sex op
17:45 Isabella        _2cool_  good for you
17:45 PilzAdam        _2cool_, you can type and other people see what you type
17:46 RealBadAngel    funny, yeah? :)
17:46 _2cool_         yes
17:46 _2cool_         uhhh
17:47 Isabella        har de har har
17:48 PilzAdam        ?
17:48 RealBadAngel    uh oh
17:48 RealBadAngel    lady can sing
17:48 RealBadAngel    shut up n listen
17:48 * PilzAdam      claps
17:48 Isabella        who hoo what lady
17:49 NekoGloop       The fat lady
17:49 Isabella        good im not fat
17:49 Isabella        i stay fit :) like my aunt
17:50 RealBadAngel    flat or fat? fit? well feed?
17:51 Isabella        i excersise, which boys are suppossed to do insted of girls,
17:52 RealBadAngel    huh, what?
17:52 RealBadAngel    first: got ya, youre not english
17:53 RealBadAngel    2nd: dont use google translator
17:53 PilzAdam        my internet connection is fun: http://www.zimg.eu/i/73066700
17:54 RealBadAngel    isabellla: by the type of error u made i suppose youre slovanian
17:54 Isabella        boys are supposed to stay fit insted of girls, but now mostly girls stay fit than boys
17:55 Isabella        maybe im bad at spelling when i type fats ok?
17:55 Isabella        fast
17:55 PilzAdam        im fit in programming :)
17:55 RealBadAngel    you made common error
17:55 Isabella        PilxAdam: At excersising
17:56 Isabella        Pilz
17:56 RealBadAngel    that slovanians do
17:56 Isabella        what ever
17:56 Isabella        atop shithead
17:56 Isabella        omg
17:56 Isabella        stop
17:56 Isabella        hmmmm: hi
17:58 hmmmm           hello...?
17:59 _2cool_         that's the fourth time I've cleared screen today
18:00 Basstard`       _2cool_: Shoot low.
18:04 Isabella        :P
18:06 _2cool_         Minetest servers hate me...
18:07 NekoGloop       We all do
18:07 _2cool_         I know...
18:07 * PilzAdam      too
18:07 * _2cool_       sad
18:07 * PilzAdam      laughs at _2cool_
18:07 * PilzAdam      evil face
18:07 * _2cool_       hits Pilz
18:08 * PilzAdam      take his nuke
18:08 * _2cool_       slaps PilzAdam with a 4r8a9i11n13b17o26w trout
18:08 * PilzAdam      throws the nuke at _2cool_
18:08 * Isabella      loves pink
18:08 * PilzAdam      loves pain
18:08 Isabella        who here hates Isabella say aye
18:08 Isabella        aye
18:08 NekoGloop       Lol
18:08 NekoGloop       Nay
18:08 * _2cool_       dodges, nuke explodes ~600 km away
18:09 NekoGloop       Yet you are still infected
18:09 _2cool_         nup, too far
18:09 * Isabella      says stop with the nukes and throws thousands of nukes at _2cool_ and PilzAdam
18:09 * PilzAdam      goes in a bunker
18:10 Isabella        ...
18:10 * _2cool_       laughs at his failed attempt to survive
18:10 Isabella        ive been in a real war bunker
18:10 PilzAdam        were you get the nukes?
18:10 PilzAdam        ebay=
18:11 Isabella        no in Holland where germans tried to get in but that was so protected that the germans then went to Amsterdam
18:11 Isabella        and yea
18:11 iqualfragile    again?
18:11 iqualfragile    AGAIN
18:12 Isabella        RUN! AWAY!
18:12 iqualfragile    oh god, she scares me
18:12 _2cool_         darp
18:13 PilzAdam        iqualfragile, sie ist zahm :) du brauchst sie nicht zu fürchten
18:13 * iqualfragile  gives food to isabelle
18:14 iqualfragile    Mein Herr, es hat den Anschein sie verschmähe meine Gabe.
18:14 _2cool_         No hablo
18:15 PilzAdam        iqualfragile, Das könnte sein, Hochwohlgeboren
18:16 Isabella        ... what language
18:16 _2cool_         Something comparable to deutch, if not so
18:17 NekoGloop       Random language
18:17 PilzAdam        german
18:17 _2cool_         deutch
18:17 Isabella        german?
18:17 PilzAdam        yes
18:18 Isabella        i know dutch
18:18 _2cool_         deutch is german in German
18:18 _2cool_         if I'm spelling it right
18:18 Isabella        i know
18:18 PilzAdam        _2cool_, its Deutsch
18:18 PilzAdam        with a "s"
18:19 _2cool_         See, I was wrong!
18:19 NekoGloop       Dayum
18:19 NekoGloop       I always thought that was dutch
18:19 PilzAdam        we also got ä, ö and ü
18:19 _2cool_         where does that go on the keyboard
18:20 Isabella        he has a speacial keyboradr prob
18:20 Isabella        im bad at spelling
18:20 PilzAdam        https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:German-Keyboard-Layout-T2-Version1-large.png&filetimestamp=20110916231650
18:20 Isabella        yay he left
18:21 _2cool_         interesting...
18:24 Isabella        what
18:28 iqualfragile1   … you are stupid, arent you?
18:29 iqualfragile1   PilzAdam: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Neo_2.0-Tastaturbelegung_Ebene1.svg
18:29 iqualfragile1   thats my layout
18:29 Isabella        nooooooooo
18:30 PilzAdam        iqualfragile1, lol
18:30 Isabella        ahhhhhhh
18:30 iqualfragile1   is so much better
18:30 * Isabella      dies
18:30 * PilzAdam      revives her with a romantic kiss
18:30 * iqualfragile1 shotguns the zombie
18:30 * PilzAdam      shotguns iqualfragile1
18:30 * PilzAdam      revives her with a romantic kiss again
18:31 * iqualfragile1 is an immortal angel
18:31 * PilzAdam      is the devil
18:31 * iqualfragile1 sends samuel(PilzAdam) and lilith(isabella) to hell
18:32 * PilzAdam      's home is the hell
18:32 PilzAdam        welvome to my home Isabella
18:32 iqualfragile1   now get on the bed!
18:38 Isabella        why
18:38 NekoGloop       So he can raep you \:D/
18:38 Isabella        ...
18:38 PilzAdam        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sexual_activity
18:39 Isabella        your hell is nice pilz
18:39 iqualfragile1   BENZIIIN
18:39 Isabella        ?
18:39 PilzAdam        you need it to drive with a car
18:40 Isabella        ok...
18:40 PilzAdam        its german for gas
18:41 iqualfragile1   willst du es nie wieder sehn lass es schwimmen in benzin
18:41 Isabella        ...???
18:42 iqualfragile    im sorry for my evil twin
18:42 NekoGloop       Lol
18:42 iqualfragile    he can be so mean sometimes…
18:43 PilzAdam        g2g
18:43 PilzAdam        bye
18:44 Isabella        whos ur bro
18:44 iqualfragile    well, iqualfragile1
18:47 Isabella        oh i see one has an e and one doesnt ok
18:49 iqualfragile    well, i personaly call that thing a 1 but you may call it an e
18:49 Isabella        a 1?
18:50 iqualfragile    jeah, ‚one‘
18:51 iqualfragile    my evil twin is called iqualfragile‚1‘
18:51 Isabella        omg i am so confused with the names
18:52 iqualfragile    you can use an propper irc-client instead of the webchat
18:52 iqualfragile    then the names would have different colours
18:55 iqualfragile    so you would't have to use the litle thing inside your head to remember all those complex names
18:55 Isabella        ? how do you do that
18:57 iqualfragile    just get pidgin http://www.pidgin.im/ , install it, log on and you are done
18:57 Isabella        i dont want to install anything
18:57 RealBadAngel    isabella: can i date with you?
18:58 Isabella        how
18:58 NekoGloop       I have a proper irc client and have all orange
18:58 iqualfragile    dont let him trick you! he is a cat
18:58 Isabella        rawr
18:59 iqualfragile    everybody: kill that fücking tiger!
18:59 NakedFury       my connection is acting bitchy today
18:59 NekoGloop       No i'm a cat
18:59 iqualfragile    not you
18:59 iqualfragile    the »Isabella« thing
19:00 Isabella        rawr?
19:00 Isabella        :P
19:01 iqualfragile    she is gona eat me
19:01 Isabella        :D
19:01 iqualfragile    get her of me, kill that fücking tiger
19:01 * NekoGloop     inserts claws into isabella's sides
19:01 * Isabella      yells
19:02 * iqualfragile  spears isabella while she is distrakted
19:02 * iqualfragile  grills the tiger
19:02 * iqualfragile  gives neko some meat
19:02 Isabella        thats RealBadAngel
19:03 * NekoGloop     yum yum
19:03 * NekoGloop     om nom nom
19:04 Isabella        hey :D how r u RealBadAngel
19:15 NakedFury       hello
19:15 NekoGloop       Derp
19:16 NekoGloop       I need to do something halfway prodictive
19:16 Isabella        ok
19:16 NakedFury       internet enough for irc and nothing else
19:17 Isabella        internet here= fine
19:17 NakedFury       this sucks
19:17 NekoGloop       Well
19:18 NekoGloop       I'm doing this and watching some crazy shiz on youtube
19:19 NakedFury       something japanese related
19:20 NekoGloop       Yup
19:20 NekoGloop       Japanese creepypastas
19:20 iqualfragile    …
19:24 iqualfragile    wait… she was using the webchat… how can there be a timeout?
19:24 NekoGloop       If disconnected
19:37 Isabella        hi
20:09 pazuzu          hello
20:09 Isabella        hi
20:09 pazuzu          can somebody explain me how to use the furnace?
20:10 khonkhortisan   put leaves in the bottom left, iron in the top left
20:10 Isabella        hahaha
20:11 pazuzu          im trying coal and tree to make some more coal, but it tells me there is no fuel
20:11 khonkhortisan   I don't think tree makes coal
20:11 NakedFury       fuel goes on the bottom, what you want to burn goes on top
20:12 iqualfragile    you cant make coal from wood
20:12 iqualfragile    but its verry easy to write a mod wich allows you to do so
20:12 pazuzu          i tried putting flammables (as per wiki) in the bottom slot, but it always tell me there is no fuel
20:12 pazuzu          i found coal+wood= more coal on the wiki
20:13 NekoGloop       Nope
20:14 pazuzu          ah yeah , no longer
20:14 khonkhortisan   http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Coal_Lump "This recipe no longer exists"
20:15 pazuzu          thanks
20:17 Isabella        wow him
20:19 FreeFull        I'm playing cornernote's skyblock
20:19 FreeFull        Although it's more of a skysphere now
20:19 NekoGloop       Lol
20:20 FreeFull        So far I fell off once
20:20 FreeFull        And lost my mese pickaxe ):L
20:20 FreeFull        ):*
20:21 FreeFull        I don't know why I didn't put the pickaxe away
20:22 FreeFull        I also reallllllly wish minetest had shift-click crafting
20:22 iqualfragile    jeah
20:22 FreeFull        Maybe I should code it myself
20:22 Basstard`       Shift-alt-ctrl-backspace-click crafting.
20:23 NakedFury       it would be useful to have quick crafting
20:23 NakedFury       shift click to craft all possible stuff
20:23 FreeFull        It'd also be useful for transferring items to/from chests
20:23 NakedFury       that too
20:23 Basstard`       Why not combos, like on those consoles?
20:25 FreeFull        Basstard`: What are you talking about
20:25 NakedFury       When the inventory is open, Shift + clicking on an item or stack moves it between the inventory and the hotbar. When a chest is open, Shift + clicking on an item will move the entire stack between the chest and the inventory. When a furnace is open, Shift + clicking an item or stack in the furnace moves it to the inventory, and Shift + clicking an item or stack in the inventory moves it into the "item" (not fuel) slot of the furnace. When crafting, S
20:25 NakedFury       hift + clicking the crafted item automatically crafts the maximum number of that item for the materials being used, and moves all crafted items to the inventory.
20:26 FreeFull        It's really useful if you want to craft a lot of, say, torches
20:26 FreeFull        Or really anything
20:26 FreeFull        You don't have to repeatedly click
20:26 leo_rockway     +1 for this
20:26 Basstard`       Why not Alt+Shift and then a letter or two for the item and then a number for the amount.
20:27 NakedFury       so much
20:31 iqualfragile    too complicated
20:46 bas080          Hey Guys
20:46 Basstard`       Hey Girl
20:47 bas080          You Basstard!
20:50 Basstard`       You bas080!
20:52 NekoGloop       You NekoGloop!
21:06 Octupus         hi
21:09 Octupus         hi
21:19 madchicken13    Hello
21:19 madchicken13    Is Anyone There
21:20 Octupus         i am
21:21 leo_rockway     is PewDiePie in here?
21:21 madchicken13    Idk
21:22 madchicken13    Can you do me a Favor
21:22 leo_rockway     probably not, but tell me and I'll see
21:23 madchicken13    Will you join my Minetest Forums No signing Up all you do is Login with Google or Facebook  --    http://minetestforums.weebly.com/
21:23 leo_rockway     there already is a minetest forum
21:23 madchicken13    I cant Use the Minetest Forums
21:23 leo_rockway     and the plural of forum is fora o.o
21:24 Octupus         chicken
21:24 madchicken13    yes
21:24 Octupus         can u host me a server
21:24 madchicken13    Are you Octupuslegs?
21:24 Octupus         yep
21:25 madchicken13    No i cant But i Can Show You How if you get TeamViewer
21:25 Octupus         ik how to pforward
21:26 madchicken13    ok
21:26 Octupus         but im not home
21:26 madchicken13    i can setup one if you want
21:26 madchicken13    o ok
21:26 madchicken13    i Have a Minetest Server that you can be Admin on
21:27 iqualfragile    madchicken: why cant you use the minetestforum?
21:27 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
21:27 iqualfragile    hi
21:28 madchicken13    i got banned because i didnt know it was illegal to Change the format of songs and post them (I Buy all my Songs)
21:28 madchicken13    But Everyone Can Join My Minetest Forum if Theyd Like --   http://minetestforums.weebly.com/
21:30 madchicken13    Octupus?
21:30 leo_rockway     madchicken13: it is illegal if the song is copyrighted with all rights reserved (although not unethical, IMO)
21:30 madchicken13    wow
21:30 leo_rockway     madchicken13: check out jamendo.com
21:30 leo_rockway     you can copy that music
21:31 madchicken13    Ok well i Talked to Celeron55 and i Learned my lesson
21:31 Octupus         srry it was an erroe on page
21:31 madchicken13    Octupus
21:31 Octupus         mad what server
21:31 PilzAdam        hi Isabella
21:32 Isabella        Hi pilz
21:32 PilzAdam        call me Adam and not Pilz
21:32 Isabella        Ok Adam
21:32 madchicken13    My Server is on my Forum -- http://minetestforums.weebly.com/ ---   under Servers its M13's 0.4-DEV 20120106_1 Server it has a Download link for the client
21:32 leo_rockway     PilzAdam: you're not a butthole, you're awesome <3
21:32 PilzAdam        thx
21:33 Isabella        m13 server? madchicken13?
21:33 madchicken13    PilzAdam i LOVE your 3D Animals Mod But like after 2 Days My Server Crashed From animals (Lolz)
21:33 leo_rockway     minetest sometimes feels like Eternal September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_september
21:34 madchicken13    yea its Me UbuntuNerd isabella
21:34 Isabella        who knows: m13.sytes.net the server
21:34 madchicken13    me!
21:34 Isabella        Ubununerd!!!!!!
21:35 madchicken13    yes?
21:35 Octupus         mad chicke the 0.4/0.4.2
21:35 Isabella        omg, i didnt think you were here!
21:35 madchicken13    no
21:35 madchicken13    M13's Minetest 0.4-DEV 20120106_1 Server (Public)(UP)(With Client Download)
21:35 Octupus         oh
21:36 Octupus         what mods u got on
21:36 madchicken13    some cool mods Customized by Me!
21:36 Isabella        haha
21:37 madchicken13    MoreBlocks, Ropes, Hatches (PS : Need more / Cant Find a Lot for Minetest 0.4 - Dev 20120106
21:37 Octupus         :0
21:38 madchicken13    did you logon to my Forums Octupus
21:38 Octupus         whats hatches?
21:38 Isabella        mad
21:38 madchicken13    Forum*
21:38 madchicken13    tes?
21:38 madchicken13    yes?*
21:38 leo_rockway     hatches has a problem I never reported...
21:38 leo_rockway     they are impossible to mine
21:39 madchicken13    lolz fixed that
21:39 PilzAdam        madchicken13, why join a new forum when there is already one?
21:39 madchicken13    I cant Used That One
21:39 Octupus         its his forum
21:39 leo_rockway     > get banned from forum
21:39 leo_rockway     > fork forum
21:39 leo_rockway     sounds legit
21:39 Isabella        ubuntunerd heres my server  192.168.0.0109
21:39 PilzAdam        :)
21:40 Isabella        port 30000
21:40 Octupus         chicken im now a testure preson
21:40 Octupus         if u need something textures ask me
21:40 madchicken13    wRong IP
21:40 madchicken13    go to whatsmyip.us
21:40 PilzAdam        try 127.0.0.1
21:40 madchicken13    http://whatsmyip.is
21:40 PilzAdam        lol
21:40 leo_rockway     PilzAdam: hey, that's my IP! D:
21:41 madchicken13    port? lolz
21:41 PilzAdam        30000
21:41 madchicken13    Client?
21:41 PilzAdam        every
21:41 madchicken13    Version?
21:41 leo_rockway     in other news: I'm very bored. Perhaps I should compile MT in a virtual machine here...
21:41 madchicken13    How is it Everyone
21:41 Isabella        what? ubuntu go to it plz
21:41 madchicken13    every Minetest *
21:42 PilzAdam        there is no protocol check
21:42 Isabella        whats that
21:42 madchicken13    Isabeela go to http://whatsmyip.us/ and giveme the ip
21:42 leo_rockway     Isabella: yours isn't a valid IP address.
21:42 PilzAdam        madchicken13, you know that 127.0.0.0 is same as localhost?
21:43 PilzAdam        *127.0.0.1
21:43 madchicken13    localhost??
21:43 PilzAdam        your own computer
21:43 madchicken13    o lolz
21:43 madchicken13    my servers are running on my other computer
21:44 Isabella        leo_rockway: whats that mean
21:44 madchicken13    thats y it isnt working
21:44 leo_rockway     Isabella: one thing is wrong with your IP and another thing is potentially wrong:
21:44 PilzAdam        Isabella, 192.168.0.***
21:44 PilzAdam        are normally lan adresses
21:44 leo_rockway     the IP you pasted has the wrong number of digits
21:44 Isabella        its 109
21:44 leo_rockway     it's a local IP, so people need to be in your LAN to connect
21:44 leo_rockway     so, unless PilzAdam is in your LAN, he'll never reach your server.
21:44 madchicken13    use http://whatsmyip.us/
21:45 PilzAdam        VPN tunnel :)
21:45 leo_rockway     that works
21:45 Isabella        my internet wont open it
21:45 PilzAdam        http://www.whatismyip.com/
21:45 Isabella        the local srver only works the public cant open because it wont open
21:45 madchicken13    use http://whatsmyip.org
21:45 Isabella        the addresses
21:46 Octupus         chick
21:46 PilzAdam        http://www.wieistmeineip.de/
21:46 iqualfragile    icanhazip.com
21:46 iqualfragile    best.site.ever
21:46 Octupus         can u give me a different server that u dont use
21:46 madchicken13    theres boobs on the side of the page adam
21:46 Isabella        it sasy 70.52.159.249
21:47 Octupus         its usa
21:47 PilzAdam        madchicken13, ??
21:47 ray8888         yup
21:47 madchicken13    Ray!!
21:47 ray8888         hey
21:47 Isabella        gtg
21:48 iqualfragile    es scheint als hätte das wahnsinnshuhn keinen addblocker installiert
21:48 madchicken13    Can you join my Minetest Forum
21:48 ray8888         can why
21:48 PilzAdam        iqualfragile, Wer hat den bitteschön keinen Werbeblocker?
21:48 Isabella        me? i cant wont let me
21:48 Isabella        gtg
21:48 iqualfragile    madchicken: nobody will join your forum
21:48 PilzAdam        madchicken13, nope
21:48 madchicken13    Lies
21:48 Octupus         ray did u apologize to keegan for griefing him when some1 hacked aptainfaps account\
21:49 madchicken13    Keegans Camping
21:49 Octupus         ik
21:49 Octupus         keegan left me incharge
21:49 madchicken13    yep and me
21:49 madchicken13    Me and Octupus
21:49 Octupus         yp
21:49 ray8888         i did not grivf it so shut the fuck befor i kill you
21:50 Octupus         shush
21:50 madchicken13    lol bypolar
21:50 Octupus         chicken a cat is going to eat u
21:50 ray8888         keegan dont know who did it
21:51 Octupus         i saw u
21:51 madchicken13    Checked the logs
21:51 madchicken13    cyah all later
21:51 Octupus         if RAY was u who was it ?
21:51 Octupus         bye
21:51 ray8888         o you wach ray or USA do it
21:52 ray8888         they did not have interact
21:52 ray8888         so fuck you
21:52 Octupus         ray
21:52 Octupus         l
21:52 Octupus         i caught u
21:52 Octupus         and i banned u
21:52 ray8888         i joned and was going to ask for it than i get blamed
21:53 * VanessaE      wanders in, half asleep
21:53 iqualfragile    again?
21:53 PilzAdam        hi
21:53 ray8888         you are not going to go on sdzens server
21:53 Octupus         hamachi 1
21:53 Octupus         so over that may i join your server
21:53 ray8888         your baned to
21:54 iqualfragile    ok: i thought we would not need any mods around here
21:54 Octupus         what did i do
21:54 NekoGloop       Ok
21:54 ray8888         neko
21:54 NekoGloop       What?
21:55 NekoGloop       ray8888: What?
21:55 ray8888         would i ever grevf
21:55 Octupus         hi vannessa
21:55 iqualfragile    because we all new such things as  netiquette and could discuss issues
21:55 NekoGloop       No you wouldnt
21:55 NekoGloop       Why...?
21:56 iqualfragile    there was about one troll and he just went away after a while
21:56 PilzAdam        VanessaE, you need enough REM sleep to be productive
21:56 NekoGloop       Is she here?
21:56 ray8888         im geting blamed for keegans thing
21:56 iqualfragile    but now there are 4 people fighting about nonsense
21:56 Octupus         because i caught him placing lava
21:56 PilzAdam        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_eye_movement_sleep
21:57 ray8888         i did not have interact
21:57 Octupus         forget it
21:57 NekoGloop       Keegan isnt stupid, he'll make it look like someone else did it
21:57 leo_rockway     VanessaE inputs coffee and outputs code.
21:57 ray8888         you dont know shit
21:57 PilzAdam        leo_rockway, lol
21:57 NekoGloop       Leo, more like input mtn dew output code
21:58 VanessaE        oh I get plenty of sleep, just not in long-enough stints
21:58 leo_rockway     that works too, as long as it has caffeine, NekoGloop
21:58 PilzAdam        ray8888, why are you so agressibe?
21:58 * NekoGloop     pokes vanessae
21:58 PilzAdam        *agressive
21:58 VanessaE        ow.
21:58 Octupus         SO whats every1 up 2
21:58 NekoGloop       Oh right i ignored her because of boredom
21:58 * leo_rockway   is @work
21:58 NekoGloop       Sorry
21:58 Octupus         iqual shush b4 ray goes bad on u]
21:58 Octupus         lol
21:58 * PilzAdam      is chatting with you
21:59 VanessaE        you /ignore'd me? :(
21:59 NekoGloop       Yes i did
21:59 NekoGloop       I got bored
21:59 ray8888         so back to wacking sdzens server
21:59 VanessaE        jeez, well thanks a lot
22:00 Octupus         y does no1 talk on minetest-dev vanessa
22:00 PilzAdam        NekoGloop, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moNGZjBNiJY
22:00 Octupus         i didnt do it
22:00 Octupus         i wasnt online
22:00 Octupus         im in honduras and the cp im using cant run 4.2
22:00 VanessaE        Octupus: people do but -dev is strictly for use by minetest core developers and contributors, not by normal uses
22:01 VanessaE        so as such it is limited to talk of only that nature, and usually only when celeron55 is aroun
22:01 VanessaE        d
22:01 PilzAdam        VanessaE, and whats with -delta?
22:01 Octupus         ah
22:01 NekoGloop       Its a riverend that branches widely
22:01 VanessaE        -delta used to be for that purpose, but has since kinda gone dead
22:02 Octupus         i tink im delta material
22:02 Octupus         not dev yet
22:02 PilzAdam        R.I.P. #minetest-delta
22:02 * PilzAdam      starts crying
22:02 * NekoGloop     pats pilzadam on the back
22:02 Octupus         SO
22:03 * PilzAdam      sniffles
22:03 Octupus         vaneesa i cudnt make the toilet code
22:03 PilzAdam        NekoGloop, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moNGZjBNiJY
22:03 Octupus         and i tried to make a new type of water
22:03 NekoGloop       I clicked it pilz
22:03 PilzAdam        :-)
22:03 Octupus         who on here was a server
22:04 PilzAdam        i am not a server
22:04 Octupus         i mean HAS
22:04 VanessaE        Octupus: it takes time to learn to code lua for minetest
22:04 PilzAdam        i have a CUPS server
22:04 PilzAdam        for my printer
22:04 Octupus         i mean a mt server
22:05 PilzAdam        see this: http://servers.minetest.ru/
22:06 iqualfragile    i have one
22:07 PilzAdam        iqualfragile, does it have a forum page?
22:07 iqualfragile    it has
22:09 Octupus         nessa when was the last time a talk on th dev and hi tux
22:09 VanessaE        Octupus: a day or two ago
22:09 VanessaE        it's not super frequent but enough so anyway
22:10 PilzAdam        Octupus, i think c55 talked someone else about the weather
22:10 PilzAdam        in finnland
22:10 khonkhortisan   mesecon circuits are much easier in 2D than in 3D
22:11 Octupus         i dont liife in finland
22:11 VanessaE        khonkhortisan: yes but in 3d you've got a whole lot more space to work with
22:11 PilzAdam        Octupus, http://pastebin.com/CXNZdfsE
22:12 * khonkhortisan hasn't found the vertical mesecon yet
22:12 VanessaE        they aren't written yet
22:12 VanessaE        (so to go 3d you still have to build on layers of cobble or something)
22:13 khonkhortisan   I fly and worldedit for the tictactoe game
22:13 PilzAdam        you gonna take part in the mesecon competition?
22:14 NekoGloop       I am
22:14 NekoGloop       Assuming i get anything noteworthy
22:14 PilzAdam        i mean khonkhortisan
22:15 NekoGloop       I have a screen that alternates between two checker patterns and has an override button to turn all of them on.
22:15 khonkhortisan   if I was in the contest I'd be competing against temperest
22:15 PilzAdam        I am in the jury so be nice to me :-)
22:16 NekoGloop       Knowing temperest he has some giant supercomputer with 60mb+ of ram an
22:16 NekoGloop       and is fully programmable...
22:17 PilzAdam        assembler or java?
22:17 NekoGloop       Neither
22:17 khonkhortisan   that would require a change to minetest.conf to make it that big
22:17 NekoGloop       C++
22:18 PilzAdam        khonkhortisan, if you would make a computer that is programmable in java.....
22:18 VanessaE        yeah but all of temperest's designs will be outdated :-)
22:18 VanessaE        unless he's started using uC's, insulated wiring, etc anyway
22:19 PilzAdam        VanessaE, the correct spelling is myC
22:21 PilzAdam        ohh.. in english its Mu
22:21 PilzAdam        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_%28letter%29
22:21 VanessaE        *nod* so it's written uC
22:21 Octupus         nvm
22:21 Octupus         no
22:21 khonkhortisan   that tictactoe board he made isn't even close - you need trinary for each pixel
22:21 VanessaE        since "micro" isn't easily available on most keyboards
22:21 khonkhortisan   "µC"
22:21 khonkhortisan   compose+m+u=µ
22:21 Basstard`       Alt Gr + m
22:22 VanessaE        khonkhortisan: and that's done on linux......how? :-)
22:22 PilzAdam        thx Basstard`
22:22 khonkhortisan   you have to set up a compose key - I made mine right alt.
22:22 iqualfragile    if you are using a neo-layout it would be mod3+tab
22:22 khonkhortisan   I'll find it
22:24 PilzAdam        http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:German-Keyboard-Layout-T2-Version1-large.png&filetimestamp=20110916231650
22:24 PilzAdam        On a german keyboard its AltGr+M
22:24 khonkhortisan   Oh, I did it in kde separate from my layout-switcher alias
22:25 iqualfragile    nope on a german quertz-layout its that
22:25 khonkhortisan   my altgr+m doesn't do µ
22:25 khonkhortisan   I'm stuck with compose for that
22:25 khonkhortisan   so if you have kde I can tell you how to get a compose key
22:26 Octupus         DOES ANY1 KNOW THE WAZU CLAN IRC CHAT?
22:26 khonkhortisan   I also use setxkbmap but I don't know the option
22:26 khonkhortisan   I don't know that clan
22:26 Octupus         they have a server and i wud like to know the owner'
22:27 Octupus         what truecombat?
22:29 Octupus         does any1 what truecombat is?
22:29 PilzAdam        nope
22:29 Octupus         :l
22:30 Octupus         whats every1 doing
22:30 NekoGloop       Chatting
22:30 PilzAdam        watching a vid on youtube
22:31 iqualfragile    chatting with random peoples
22:31 khonkhortisan   making a mesecon tictactoe game
22:32 khonkhortisan   now that I have my router password, I'll be able to host it when it's done
22:34 iqualfragile    going to bed
22:35 PilzAdam        wb, VanessaE
22:42 VanessaE        there.  now that I know I can do that, the otherwise-useless menu key just became my compose key :-)
22:50 * NekoGloop     pokes vanessae
22:50 PilzAdam        boooooooooring!
22:50 VanessaE        ow.
22:50 * Basstard`     pucks VanessaE
22:51 OldCoder        Hockey?
22:51 * NekoGloop     kicks basstard
22:51 PilzAdam        yay hockey
22:53 PilzAdam        so guys its 1am; got to sleep
22:53 PilzAdam        bye
22:53 NekoGloop       G'byw
23:09 Isabella        hello?
23:09 NekoGloop       No
23:09 Isabella        no
23:09 Isabella        no
23:10 Isabella        no
23:10 Isabella        no
23:10 Isabella        o
23:10 Isabella        no
23:10 Isabella        n
23:10 Isabella        no
23:10 NekoGloop       ...
23:10 Isabella        hehehe my dad always says that
23:10 Isabella        no
23:17 Isabella        hellllo eeeeverrrrryboddddyyyy
23:18 * NekoGloop     pokes bella
23:19 * Isabella      yells ouch
23:21 VanessaE        ...
23:23 NekoGloop       ...
23:31 NekoGloop       I dont think i can mine stone very well with an arrow in mc
23:35 VanessaE        probably not
23:35 NekoGloop       I can its just slow and i dont get the cobble
23:56 VanessaE        bbl