Time Nick Message 00:00 VanessaE haha 00:01 * NekoGloop wins 00:01 NekoGloop Upload it 00:01 VanessaE there's nothing to upload - it's already online :-) 00:02 VanessaE THIS, https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons 00:02 VanessaE plus THIS, https://github.com/VanessaE/mesecon-wires-new 00:02 NakedFury gonna need to make nex textures for mesecon stuff 00:02 VanessaE equals THIS: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_314205544.png 00:03 RealBadAngel nice 00:03 RealBadAngel really nice 00:04 RealBadAngel im fightin a bug 00:04 RealBadAngel nasty one 00:04 VanessaE I'm going to do a little more work on the nodeboxes to give those junction blobs a ltitle more definition 00:04 VanessaE little* 00:04 RealBadAngel it crashes the client 00:04 VanessaE but only after jeija returns later. 00:04 VanessaE RealBadAngel: ouch 00:05 RealBadAngel seen the code 00:05 RealBadAngel many similar lines 00:05 RealBadAngel made a mistake somwhere 00:06 RealBadAngel tracin it now 00:07 NekoGloop GET THY BUG SPRAY!!! 00:07 * VanessaE hands RealBadAngel some Bug-B-Gone (TM) 00:08 RealBadAngel jesus 00:08 RealBadAngel im an idiot 00:08 RealBadAngel lol 00:08 RealBadAngel made another divide by 0 00:08 NekoGloop works wonderfully vanessae 00:09 RealBadAngel lmao 00:09 VanessaE NekoGloop: thanks :-) 00:09 VanessaE and on Jeija's behalf too :-) 00:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel: can you take a quick break and do me a favor? 00:09 NekoGloop only problem, if you can call it that: They do the vertical thing midair as well 00:09 RealBadAngel sure 00:10 VanessaE RealBadAngel: on your "goodbye coal, electricity comes" thread, segfault22 made a comment that mesecons will never look as good as your cabling. Can you post this screenshot? 00:10 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_314205544.png 00:10 VanessaE (I feel funny posting it myself) 00:11 VanessaE neko: yeah I know, but that's a small price to pay for nice 3d wires :-) 00:11 NekoGloop They dont connect to microcontrollers 00:11 VanessaE sure they do. 00:11 NekoGloop no they dont 00:11 VanessaE look at the screenshot :-) 00:12 NekoGloop I have a circle around a microcontroller. It doesnt connect to it directly at any point 00:12 VanessaE on the right, at the "A" pin, a mesecon connects. 00:12 VanessaE you may have to dig up and re-place your components. 00:12 NekoGloop not even at A 00:13 VanessaE I just tried, it works for me 00:13 VanessaE did you grab both the mesecons update AND the wires? 00:13 VanessaE you need both for it to work right 00:13 NekoGloop oh 00:13 NekoGloop the mesecons itself got updated 00:13 VanessaE *nod* 00:14 VanessaE compatibility tweaks 00:14 NekoGloop Jeija, y u make me download so much? 00:15 RealBadAngel @Vanessa: done 00:15 VanessaE thanks 00:15 RealBadAngel going back to my code 00:15 VanessaE RealBadAngel: hahahah perfect response :-0 00:15 VanessaE :-) 00:16 RealBadAngel :) 00:16 NekoGloop works now 00:18 NekoGloop i cannot find worldedit for the life of me >.> 00:19 NekoGloop found it 00:19 Keegan hello 00:19 NekoGloop hi there keegan 00:22 VanessaE ok, I pushed the 1-pixel-thick wires to master 00:22 VanessaE neko, others: re-pull the wires repo. 00:24 NekoGloop goddamn it i just restarted playing minetest 00:26 Keegan how do you make a hack client or is there already one made so i can download it 00:26 VanessaE pushed again. new texture for wires bearing a junction 'bump'. 00:27 NekoGloop DAMMIT VANESSAE 00:27 VanessaE Keegan: you don't. end of discussion. 00:27 VanessaE neko: wait, there's another commit coming in a few minutes. 00:27 NekoGloop I DIDNT EVEN MOVE THIS TIME 00:27 VanessaE NekoGloop: this is called "active development". :-) 00:27 Keegan VanessaE: you mean 00:28 VanessaE I warned you that it wasn't ready :-) 00:28 VanessaE Keegan: I mean hacked clients are not acceptible to the Minetest community. 00:28 NakedFury can you stop asking for hacked clients 00:28 VanessaE the last prominent person to discuss using a hacked client did it for the sole purpose of griefing. 00:28 Keegan VanessaE: I want to see what it does 00:29 VanessaE Keegan: it does whatever the hack in question does - it's not like there's only one way to hack a program 00:29 JamieWill I have 2 hacked clients just download them 00:29 NekoGloop could even just make 3d character rendering :P 00:29 Keegan where do i download them at? 00:30 NekoGloop VanessaE: Have you tried GloopOres yet? 00:30 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36982 00:31 Keegan whats that Neko 00:31 VanessaE NekoGloop: I haven't had time. 00:31 NekoGloop It's GloopOres :P 00:32 NekoGloop Should I make all the ores (except Kalite) be craftable into blocks/tools? 00:32 Keegan JamieWill: may i have t? 00:33 NekoGloop I have to go soon, VanessaE, may you please hurry up a bit? 00:33 VanessaE I'm trying :-) 00:34 NekoGloop I dont wanna lose that link, since github has decided to like me today. 00:35 VanessaE there. 00:36 VanessaE re-pull the wires repo. 00:36 Keegan is the hack client on github? 00:37 VanessaE Keegan: forget about hacked clients damn it 00:37 Keegan nevery 00:37 NekoGloop Then be banned mercilessly. 00:37 NekoGloop From everywhere. 00:37 NekoGloop And anywhere. 00:37 Keegan ill forgot about when i get it 00:37 VanessaE you come on a server I'm a mod on, with a hacked client, you will not return. 00:37 Keegan ok 00:38 Keegan what server? 00:38 VanessaE NekoGloop: I think that completes my changes. 00:38 JamieWill yeaah 00:38 VanessaE Keegan: please learn to read english. "if" means a conditional statement. That does not mean I'm inviting you to any such server. 00:38 VanessaE wb JamieWill. 00:38 NekoGloop Any time you cross my path I shall batter you with the strongest weapon available, Keegan. 00:39 Keegan you guys are mean 00:39 VanessaE NekoGloop: would that be the evil sword? :-) 00:39 Keegan tgesh 00:39 NekoGloop Assuming GloopBlocks is in place, yes. 00:39 VanessaE Keegan: mean? no. we have standards. 00:39 NekoGloop Evil Sword is a two-hit kill even if the opponent is at full health. 00:40 Keegan VanessaE: diid you hear what Neko said to me 00:40 VanessaE indeed I did. 00:40 VanessaE he said the same thing I did, just with stronger words. 00:40 VanessaE It is forbidden to use a hacked client on a public server. 00:40 NekoGloop And with more applicable ones, since all servers I'm mod on are down for indefinite amounts of time. 00:41 NekoGloop But, alas, I must take my leave. 00:41 Keegan so? 00:42 VanessaE what so? 00:42 Keegan you know 00:43 NakedFury we wont tell you or give you clients made for griefing EVER stop asking for them stop asking about them 00:44 NakedFury we are a very small community, if you are found hacking there is a very high chance you will be banned in all servers 00:46 Keegan so 00:47 Basstard` soma 00:49 Keegan sdzen: you have a hack client>? 00:49 VanessaE keegan the answer is NO. 00:50 sdzen i do but id never let you use it 00:50 Basstard` Isn't Minetest a hack in itself? 00:50 Keegan why dont 00:50 Keegan you guys are so mean 00:50 VanessaE Basstard`: no. minetest was programmed from the ground up in C++ 00:50 VanessaE it is not a hack of anything else. 00:51 Basstard` VanessaE: And what does hacking mean? 00:51 VanessaE Basstard`: to dig into the code and make changes, either for the purpose of improving it, or to do what keegan wants. 00:51 Keegan sdzen: why wont you giive t to me? 00:51 sdzen cause i dont trust you and never have trusted you 00:51 NakedFury and never will 00:51 Keegan come on trust me 00:52 sdzen haha no 00:52 sdzen im still holding it against you for TRYING to destroy the spawn on my server 00:52 Keegan plz you know i own a server and a moderator on three server 00:53 sdzen i know this but any two bit hack with an ounce of thought can run a server 00:53 sdzen and ive seen how you get to be a moderator 00:53 Keegan how 00:54 NakedFury whinning 00:54 NakedFury pissing people off 00:54 Keegan no 00:54 sdzen you basicly grovel to the server admins and anyone else who can help you accomplish your means 00:54 NakedFury like right now 00:54 Keegan what 00:54 sdzen no hes being a bit more civilized now 00:54 Keegan i dd not whine to menche or madchcken 00:55 VanessaE brb 00:56 sdzen mad chicken would trust a lump of dirt as a moderator if it didnt grieve or be a nuisance to him 00:56 Keegan yea so 00:57 JamieWill Hi 00:57 sdzen with menche you guilted him into it like everyone else did 00:57 Keegan NO DIDNT 00:57 Keegan ask him 00:57 NakedFury really wish I could have players muted on my irc chat 00:58 Keegan you can 00:58 Keegan ASK MENCHE 01:00 Keegan SO WHY CANT GET A HACK CLIENT 01:01 RealBadAngel if i get such folk, using such shit to greive 01:02 Keegan JUST GIVEME IT 01:02 RealBadAngel he will be ddosed all the time 01:02 RealBadAngel period 01:02 Keegan NOW!!!! 01:02 JamieWill thanks to mad chicken 13 just got a free no lag personal 0.3.1 server 01:02 VanessaE there, xfce 4.10 installed. not bad so far 01:03 Keegan PLZ JUST GVEME THE CLIENT NOW!!!!! 01:03 VanessaE NO 01:03 Keegan NOW!!! 01:04 JamieWill No! 01:04 Keegan NOOOOW! 01:04 NakedFury go join #minetest-moron for spam 01:04 RealBadAngel shit, how old r u keegan? 01:04 RealBadAngel 5? 01:04 Keegan older than you 01:04 JamieWill Seriously moron room 01:04 sdzen how old? 01:04 VanessaE how old are you keegan? 01:05 NakedFury 6 01:05 JamieWill he is like 7 01:05 JamieWill 8 @ the most 01:05 RealBadAngel tops even 01:05 NakedFury I recommend everyone to ban him on servers 01:05 sdzen ive seen 5 year olds play nicer then keegan 01:05 JamieWill done 01:05 JamieWill my lilz cuz 01:06 Keegan you guys are so dumb 01:06 RealBadAngel yes we are 01:06 sdzen and you are dodging our question 01:06 VanessaE Keegan: not dumb. strict. 01:06 RealBadAngel and goodbye 01:06 JamieWill Yep thats us ~points a gun to my own head 01:06 Keegan shut it 01:07 Keegan no one is n there 01:07 Keegan s there like a hacking one? 01:07 VanessaE so you think it's dumb for us to prevent you from obtaining a hacked client? 01:07 RealBadAngel gimme just one more reason 01:07 VanessaE that's about as smart a thing as one can do in this situation. 01:08 RealBadAngel and i will point zombie botnet at your ip 01:08 RealBadAngel please 01:08 Keegan DONT 01:08 VanessaE then answer the question: how old are you? 01:08 Keegan 15 01:08 sdzen hmmmmm you sir dont act your age 01:09 Keegan sure 01:09 * VanessaE <-- 38. College educated. 25 years as a programmer. former professional linux system administrator. minetest modder. texture pack author. 01:09 VanessaE still think I'm dumb? 01:10 Basstard` VanessaE: Many dumb people go to college. 01:10 VanessaE good point. 01:11 VanessaE (see for example, some recent US presidents ;-) ) 01:11 Keegan i can barely hack anything 01:11 Keegan cant do c++ 01:11 Keegan or lanuage 01:12 Basstard` VanessaE: I like the Commodore stuff on your page. 01:12 VanessaE thanks 01:12 * sdzen <-- 15. Top of the class. most intelligent smart aleck in vermont. has fairly decent knowledge of computers in general and knows some python. artist. amateur badminton player 01:13 VanessaE badminton? gutsy :-) 01:13 Keegan you guys are so mean 01:14 VanessaE keegan: we are preventing you from doing harm to the community. 01:14 VanessaE that is the polar opposite of mean. 01:14 RealBadAngel OR is for Oregon? 01:14 VanessaE I think so 01:14 sdzen yes i believe so 01:14 Keegan plz 01:14 RealBadAngel pack ur stuff 01:15 RealBadAngel youre goin to have vacation 01:15 Keegan for what 01:15 Keegan no thats two weeks from nmow 01:16 RealBadAngel sooner my boy, sooner 01:16 Keegan why 01:16 RealBadAngel to teach you something 01:16 Keegan for what 01:17 sdzen you dont happen to live in michigan do you? 01:17 sdzen keegan? 01:17 Keegan no 01:18 Keegan why 01:18 sdzen oh well 01:18 Keegan oh well for what 01:18 RealBadAngel corvallis, oregon 01:18 Keegan nope 01:19 RealBadAngel no shit 01:19 RealBadAngel really? 01:19 Keegan really what 01:19 RealBadAngel really a kid :P 01:19 Keegan how 01:20 Keegan plz no fuckng swearing 01:20 Keegan now im getting mad 01:20 VanessaE you have no right to get mad. 01:20 VanessaE you are the one making a scene 01:21 Keegan SO 01:22 BloodCoder Keegan, hey 01:22 Keegan BloodCoder hey 01:22 BloodCoder How are things going? 01:22 Keegan terrible 01:22 NakedFury for us 01:22 BloodCoder Sorry to hear it 01:23 Keegan there so mean 01:23 BloodCoder NakedFury, I don't think we've met. It's pretty good nick. 01:23 NakedFury hi 01:23 NakedFury are you going to whine like keegan for hacks? 01:25 BloodCoder NakedFury, hmm? Who are you speaking too? 01:25 BloodCoder *to? 01:26 NakedFury you 01:26 BloodCoder Oh. Then, actually, no... 01:26 NakedFury nice 01:26 NakedFury welcome 01:26 BloodCoder All right :-) 01:28 loldongs eh 01:28 loldongs hi? 01:28 VanessaE hi 01:29 mrtux ohi 01:30 JamieWill I got a personal server thanks to madchicken13 on 0.3.1 no lag at all 01:31 VanessaE I'm kinda surprised you went with 0.3.1 01:31 VanessaE given how obsolete it is now 01:32 mrtux i just set up a server 01:32 mrtux it's on an amazon ec2 01:32 mrtux pretty nice 01:33 BloodCoder mrtux, What sort of server load is involved? Won't be free after a point 01:34 BloodCoder BloodCoder, BTW Good nick too 01:34 mrtux BloodCoder: not much i think 01:34 BloodCoder Amazon will kick it over to paid eventually 01:34 mrtux ah 01:34 BloodCoder It's only free for one year and exceeding limits will result in bills now 01:34 BloodCoder But I was planning to try the same thing this month 01:34 mrtux oh i see 01:35 BloodCoder No harm in running it; just set up billing alerts 01:35 mrtux ah 01:35 mrtux is it expensive? 01:35 BloodCoder Not at the first tier 01:35 mrtux ah 01:35 BloodCoder They like the idea of people getting used to the service 01:35 BloodCoder I'd simply recommend you set up the alerts and keep an eye on it 01:35 loldongs install gentoo 01:35 mrtux see i don't own the server actually, the server owner allowed me to run it 01:36 BloodCoder Patrick would like you 01:36 BloodCoder Oops 01:36 mrtux he was going to run a minecraft server on it lol 01:36 BloodCoder loldongs, that was for you 01:36 BloodCoder loldongs, may I ask if you have run Gentoo? 01:36 loldongs huh 01:36 BloodCoder He's a friend of mine 01:36 loldongs yes I use Gentoo 01:36 BloodCoder Ha 01:36 BloodCoder loldongs, Is it O.K. if I ask what you like about it? 01:36 mrtux FREEDOM 01:36 loldongs sure 01:37 BloodCoder Not Linux; Gentoo which is one variety 01:37 loldongs well the thing I like about the distro is how I can optimize the code 01:37 loldongs using makeflags and cflags 01:37 BloodCoder So; the source-based nature 01:37 loldongs yes mostly 01:37 loldongs and it's a rolling release 01:37 BloodCoder Correct 01:37 loldongs so I get the latest software, usually 01:37 mrtux yes 01:37 BloodCoder You are current user. If you'd like to meet him I'll bring him by sometime. 01:38 BloodCoder Gentoo is more than one person, of course 01:38 loldongs ok sure 01:38 BloodCoder Mageia Linux is also here in another channel 01:38 BloodCoder We have a sort of club :-) 01:38 BloodCoder Anyway 01:38 mrtux so is arch linux 01:38 loldongs oh I see 01:38 mrtux arch is nice 01:38 BloodCoder Yes 01:38 BloodCoder Arch is similar to Slackware 01:38 loldongs yes I'm actually not using gentoo right this moment, right now I have arch installed 01:38 BloodCoder I used that for about a decade 01:39 mrtux ah 01:39 BloodCoder loldongs, They are both fine distros 01:39 loldongs I have it on one of my other machines 01:39 mrtux doobian is nic 01:39 mrtux *nice 01:39 loldongs have gentoo on one of my others that is 01:39 mrtux i mean debian lol 01:39 BloodCoder Yes 01:39 BloodCoder I was going to ask :-) 01:39 loldongs what distro do you use bloodcoder? 01:39 BloodCoder My own :-) 01:39 loldongs oh you built your own? 01:39 leo_rockway Arch is not similar to Slackware 01:39 mrtux cool 01:40 BloodCoder leo_rockway, Actually, based on my standards they occupy similar spaces 01:40 leo_rockway Arch is bleeding edge and Slackware is rock solid stable. 01:40 BloodCoder Yes 01:40 BloodCoder leo_rockway, Believe me, I know 01:40 loldongs well slackware and arch are both minimal distros 01:40 BloodCoder loldongs, Lightweight as opposed to minimal 01:40 loldongs I think he was referring to that 01:40 leo_rockway they are both DIY kind of distros. 01:40 leo_rockway okay, then I agree. 01:40 BloodCoder leo_rockway, there is a funny Linux proverb 01:40 BloodCoder Hmm 01:40 BloodCoder "Slackware... friendly as a coiled rattlesnake" :-) 01:41 leo_rockway xD 01:41 * BloodCoder relied heavily on Slackware 01:41 * RealBadAngel uses ubuntu. debian anyway 01:41 BloodCoder I met Volkerding a couple of times 01:41 loldongs so what's the name of your distro? 01:41 leo_rockway Ubuntu is an African term which means "Slackware is too hard for me" 01:41 RealBadAngel lol 01:41 VanessaE haha 01:41 RealBadAngel not really 01:41 BloodCoder I have a name but it is unreleased 01:41 BloodCoder Hang on, here are a few screenshots 01:41 * BloodCoder rummages in the box 01:41 loldongs ok 01:41 leo_rockway BloodCoder: Slackware was my first distro, back in 1998. 01:41 BloodCoder leo_rockway, ah 01:42 BloodCoder Old School :-) 01:42 * BloodCoder approves 01:42 leo_rockway mhm 01:42 RealBadAngel ubuntu is "for people" 01:42 BloodCoder Linux was in the right place at the right time 01:42 leo_rockway I was 14 or 15 01:42 NakedFury windows 95 was my first distro back in...95 01:42 BloodCoder Under different circumstances you'd be running BSD 01:42 BloodCoder They waited six months too long 01:42 leo_rockway I don't see myself changing Arch for anything... 01:42 BloodCoder om 01:42 BloodCoder Don't 01:42 BloodCoder Find what works 01:43 leo_rockway I have versionitis... I'm on Arch testing. 01:43 BloodCoder Speaking personally... 01:43 loldongs just asking, have you used bsd before bloodcoder? 01:43 BloodCoder I loved Slackware 01:43 BloodCoder You could say that :-) 01:43 loldongs I've tried it but I didn't like it's style of package management 01:43 leo_rockway Slackware was beautiful, but I can't wait for newer versions. 01:43 BloodCoder I was at B when they added the SD 01:43 BloodCoder http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ss-games.jpg 01:43 BloodCoder I prefer lightweight games. Those are my primary choices ^ 01:43 BloodCoder No MT client though I've built it 01:43 BloodCoder 01:44 BloodCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/beworld/beworld-main.jpg 01:44 BloodCoder ^ This is my own little game 01:44 leo_rockway Nethack! 01:44 BloodCoder It's simple but unusual 01:44 BloodCoder No; that is a Nethack clone written in Tcl 01:44 loldongs I honestly don't know much programming besides basic C 01:44 BloodCoder One of my projects from 2 years back 01:44 BloodCoder 01:44 BloodCoder leo_rockway, You're familiar with Nethack? 01:44 BloodCoder I used to play Rogue with Ken Arnold 01:44 leo_rockway I love Nethack, but I'm terrible. 01:44 loldongs also I didn't mean basic as the language I meant I only know basically a little C 01:44 leo_rockway I can't go lower than 5 floors 01:44 BloodCoder Here is my Nethack clone: 01:45 BloodCoder loldongs, You will pick it up 01:45 BloodCoder http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ss-stargnud-mode-default.jpg 01:45 leo_rockway I know some Python... and now I'm learning Lua syntax. I'm a sysadmin. 01:45 BloodCoder That is a fork of a fork ^ 01:45 BloodCoder leo_rockway, Perl Python PHP Lua 01:45 BloodCoder Learn them all; no need to limit yourself 01:45 BloodCoder http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ss-stargnud-nuclear.jpg 01:46 BloodCoder ^ About 20 years ago... 01:46 BloodCoder I was bored 01:46 BloodCoder Added nuclear weapons to Nethack 01:46 BloodCoder I figured... 01:46 BloodCoder Who would go into a dungeon with just a sword? :-) 01:46 leo_rockway BloodCoder: that looks like Vulture 01:46 BloodCoder http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ss-prfreeboom-setup.png 01:46 BloodCoder I haven't seen Vulture but I think this is similar 01:46 leo_rockway Isometric Nethack client 01:47 BloodCoder I forked it from an abandoned project about 7 years ago 01:47 BloodCoder Yes 01:47 BloodCoder Rogue -> Hack -> Nethack -> Slash'Em and friends 01:47 BloodCoder Vulture comes along to the right 01:47 leo_rockway I don't use QWERTY, so plain Nethack is kind of annoying for me with the vi-like keys. 01:47 BloodCoder Yes 01:47 BloodCoder But we grew to love it 01:47 BloodCoder Got so when D 01:47 BloodCoder just a letter D 01:47 BloodCoder for dragon wandered into a room we'd jump :-) 01:47 leo_rockway haha 01:48 BloodCoder I collect lightweight games 01:48 loldongs I've only used qwerty and dvorak before lol 01:48 BloodCoder http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ss-pingus.jpg 01:48 BloodCoder ^ Pingus 01:48 leo_rockway I like glhack 01:48 BloodCoder loldongs, I used the same keyboards for 20 years 01:48 BloodCoder leo_rockway, I don't think I've built Vulture or glhack 01:48 BloodCoder Got used to my own fork 01:48 loldongs you seem a lot more experienced then me lol, I'm just a teenager 01:48 BloodCoder loldongs, So? 01:48 BloodCoder Learn to code 01:48 BloodCoder Blaze a trail 01:48 leo_rockway glhack is just an opengl rendered version of nethack. 01:49 Basstard` NetHack: The Movie 01:49 BloodCoder Ha 01:49 BloodCoder Hold on... 01:49 leo_rockway nethack is incredibly difficult 01:49 BloodCoder Can't find it but I have the Nethack song here somewhere 01:49 BloodCoder Also quite fun 01:49 loldongs I suppose I could try again at programming 01:49 BloodCoder loldongs, you have nothing to lose 01:49 leo_rockway BloodCoder: do you know Dwarf Fortress and/or Liberal Crime Squad? 01:49 NakedFury DF great game 01:50 leo_rockway I haven't tried DF yet. LCS is maintained by the same guy. 01:50 BloodCoder leo_rockway, Those are commercial, right? 01:50 leo_rockway LCS is fun. 01:50 leo_rockway BloodCoder: no 01:50 BloodCoder I know somebody in the startups channel who loves DF 01:50 BloodCoder Hmm 01:50 BloodCoder I checked DF the other day 01:50 BloodCoder It's not proprietary? 01:50 leo_rockway well, lcs is free. I'm pretty sure DF is free as well. 01:50 NakedFury not open 01:50 BloodCoder Ah; thanks 01:50 NakedFury free but not open source 01:50 BloodCoder DF is quite popular 01:51 BloodCoder I focus on FOSS myself 01:51 BloodCoder Room for all types of software 01:51 loldongs I don't like using proprietary software at all 01:51 BloodCoder It has its place 01:51 leo_rockway I use all free software 01:51 BloodCoder That is a good way to go 01:51 BloodCoder But for some people... 01:51 BloodCoder Hmm 01:51 leo_rockway I call it free software. I'm a GNU kind of guy. 01:51 * BloodCoder tries to avoid debates 01:51 BloodCoder Ha 01:51 leo_rockway =] 01:51 BloodCoder You should meet Ghostshell 01:51 BloodCoder He has mixed feelings about GNU 01:52 BloodCoder I keep telling him 01:52 BloodCoder "I am *not* Richard Stallman" 01:52 leo_rockway I have mixed feelings about rms. I think he does some very stupid things 01:52 VanessaE heh 01:52 BloodCoder He is... colorful 01:52 BloodCoder I am more of an Eric Raymond fan 01:52 leo_rockway like the whole OpenBSD thing. It was unnecessary. 01:52 leo_rockway I don't like ESR at all. 01:52 BloodCoder Go on 01:52 * BloodCoder is interested 01:52 BloodCoder So you are between the two? Or lean towards GNU side? 01:53 leo_rockway the Wikipedia / GNUpedia thing... when he gave his blessing to two different groups of people. 01:53 loldongs rms kinda needs to trim his beard eventually.... 01:53 BloodCoder Yes 01:53 leo_rockway I'm a GNU guy, which doesn't mean I support all the stupid things rms does. 01:53 leo_rockway or all the campaigns that the FSF has. 01:53 Basstard` BloodCoder: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/show-them-the-code 01:54 loldongs I do support GNU as well since the licensing seems like something I agree with 01:54 BloodCoder Reviewing link 01:54 loldongs well I'm a communist/socialist 01:54 BloodCoder Torvalds is old now 01:54 BloodCoder loldongs, then you will make a fine GNU person :-) 01:54 leo_rockway loldongs: ESR is the exact opposite of that. 01:54 leo_rockway I'm not a communist / socialist. 01:55 BloodCoder leo_rockway, It is a joke 01:55 BloodCoder Believe me 01:55 loldongs what is ESR? 01:55 leo_rockway Eric Raymond 01:55 BloodCoder Eric Raymond I believe 01:55 BloodCoder There are two main people 01:55 BloodCoder Opposite warriors 01:55 NakedFury ESR = Eric Raymond, its missing the S 01:55 BloodCoder Yes 01:55 leo_rockway he's like "kill all the gay people, all the muslims, all the people that are different" 01:55 BloodCoder Stallman is the radical 01:55 leo_rockway I don't remember what his middle name is. 01:55 loldongs oh, I seen him before in revolution os 01:55 BloodCoder Raymond is the pragmatic 01:55 leo_rockway but he signs esr. 01:55 loldongs I just didn't know his name 01:56 leo_rockway loldongs: yes, that's the guy. 01:56 leo_rockway he wrote the Cathedral and the Bazaar. That's pretty much it. 01:56 BloodCoder Halloween Documents 01:56 BloodCoder IIRC he collected those as well 01:56 leo_rockway oh, true 01:56 loldongs I don't know much about him 01:56 leo_rockway he rewrote the jargon file 01:56 BloodCoder loldongs, Not urgent 01:57 BloodCoder Jargon file; heh 01:57 * BloodCoder helped with the original fortunes file 01:57 * leo_rockway hugs BloodCoder 01:57 BloodCoder I have a friend in another channel who's sick... 01:57 leo_rockway fortune <3 01:57 BloodCoder Ah 01:57 BloodCoder For the hug you can have my fortunes server 01:57 BloodCoder I will GitHub it :-) 01:57 leo_rockway haha 01:57 BloodCoder I didn't write the original 01:58 BloodCoder A few of the jokes are mine 01:58 BloodCoder I've got a friend in another channel who's sick... 01:58 BloodCoder Need to go over there 01:58 BloodCoder I stopped off here because I saw the business with Keegan 01:58 loldongs I do love GNU, but I'm more concerned about internet privacy instead of proprietary software as much 01:58 BloodCoder I'll talk to him 01:58 BloodCoder loldongs, I look forward to discussing GNU and privacy issues further 01:58 BloodCoder Closed source... 01:59 Basstard` loldongs: Aren't they somewhat connected? 01:59 BloodCoder I wouldn't recommend people use it though it is their right 01:59 loldongs well they are 01:59 loldongs not all proprietary software spies on the users though 01:59 BloodCoder No 01:59 loldongs but unfortently the majority do 01:59 BloodCoder But Windows is sort of Swiss Cheese 01:59 leo_rockway I'm very concerned with privacy too. 01:59 BloodCoder for security 01:59 BloodCoder Yes... 01:59 leo_rockway loldongs: where's your PGP/GPG? 01:59 BloodCoder Wasn't it the head of Sun who said 01:59 loldongs I don't have one honestly 01:59 BloodCoder "You have no privacy get over it" 02:00 NakedFury he is right 02:00 leo_rockway never heard that 02:00 Keegan BloodCoder when will you make t 02:00 BloodCoder Keegan, we'll talk 02:00 BloodCoder But don't ask the others here for it presently 02:00 BloodCoder They're not in the mood 02:00 Keegan urgh taking along time 02:00 * BloodCoder laughs 02:00 BloodCoder Mr. Patience :P 02:01 loldongs I just find it odd that my friends seem to use Windows just because of convenience and games, they don't really care about the ethical or privacy issues 02:01 BloodCoder I've been here for a while and I know some of the people here from other channels 02:01 BloodCoder leo_rockway, loldongs, NakedFury: We haven't talked before and I'm pleased to meet you 02:01 BloodCoder I look forward to talking shop again 02:01 loldongs thanks 02:01 NakedFury same here 02:01 leo_rockway I'm online all the time. 02:01 BloodCoder I've got to see to a sick friend 02:01 Keegan so when will you make it 02:01 * BloodCoder too 02:01 leo_rockway just ping me when you're around 02:01 leo_rockway I hope your friend gets better soon 02:02 BloodCoder Keegan, I'll make a deal... 02:02 BloodCoder We'll talk about it 02:02 BloodCoder If you relax 02:02 Keegan urgh when 02:02 BloodCoder and just kick back a bit 02:02 loldongs what's going on anyway 02:02 loldongs or is it personal 02:02 BloodCoder loldongs, going on? 02:02 Keegan personal 02:02 BloodCoder Keegan is impatient 02:02 loldongs I mean what was keegan asking about 02:02 loldongs but you don't have to tell me 02:02 BloodCoder I think he wants 02:02 leo_rockway DF is nonfree :S 02:02 Keegan nothing 02:02 Basstard` leo_rockway: It is. 02:02 BloodCoder It doesn't matter 02:02 BloodCoder I'll stop by again 02:02 BloodCoder BTW My usual handle is 02:03 NakedFury Dwarf Fortress is Free NOT open source 02:03 OldCoder TTYS 02:03 leo_rockway OldCoder: we had chatted. 02:03 Basstard` NakedFury: Free or gratis? 02:03 * OldCoder nods 02:03 leo_rockway we exchanged GPGs 02:03 leo_rockway NakedFury: free as in freedom. 02:03 * Keegan is getting anouixs 02:04 leo_rockway Basstard`: it is gratis. 02:04 NakedFury ok then ohh I dont have to buy it gratis 02:04 leo_rockway free as in beer, yes. Free as in freedom, no. 02:04 NakedFury gratis no me cuesta nada! 02:04 mrtux I'm starting a griefing server 02:04 mrtux that people can just ruin 02:04 leo_rockway NakedFury: \o/ 02:05 Keegan mrtux is untrusted 02:05 NakedFury if it was Free then it would have been modded beyond what the developer is doing 02:05 NakedFury adding textures instead of letters 02:05 leo_rockway letters are awesome. 02:05 leo_rockway lcs is free, though. 02:06 loldongs what's wrong with mrtux 02:07 Keegan he grieft my server 02:07 loldongs don't mind me, I'm just a curious fellow 02:07 loldongs oh 02:07 mrtux huh 02:07 Keegan yea 02:07 mrtux lol i was bored 02:07 Keegan so 02:07 mrtux sorry 02:07 Keegan no your not 02:07 mrtux i truly am 02:07 Keegan no your not 02:08 mrtux how 02:08 Keegan HE S A LIER 02:08 mrtux *liar 02:11 loldongs eh 02:21 Keegan hey 02:23 Keegan whatca guys doing 02:23 mrtux griefing my server :P 02:23 NakedFury playing games 02:23 mrtux lava everywhere 02:24 NakedFury planetside 2 02:24 Keegan had to restart my server again 02:24 Keegan because the world diiappeared 02:26 Keegan do you know how to make a server not lag and better 02:26 mrtux yes 02:27 Keegan how 02:27 mrtux you edit the configuration file 02:27 Keegan i did that 02:28 mrtux theres a thread in the forums 02:29 Keegan yea i saw that 02:29 Keegan hey sdzen 02:30 VanessaE wb sdzen, servvs.\ 02:30 Keegan hey VanessaE 02:30 VanessaE hi 02:30 Keegan whatca doing 02:30 VanessaE just reading and listening to music 02:31 VanessaE trying to shift gears a bit so I can go bowl on the Wii 02:31 Keegan hate reading 02:32 Keegan whats a cool thing to build 02:32 VanessaE Keegan: after a while, life gets boring enough that reading ends up being a nice way to pass the time. P 02:33 VanessaE Plus I usually read technical stuff (slashdot mostly), so it's a good way to learn too :-) 02:33 Keegan i just learned from experiance 02:34 Keegan what server you guys play on? 02:37 sdzen singleplayer 02:39 Keegan dont you have a server sdzen? 02:39 sdzen yes i do 02:40 sdzen but i play singleplayer 02:44 mrtux ec2-50-112-56-189.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com port 30001 02:45 mrtux my server is filled with lava :P 02:45 VanessaE Keegan: the reason I read to learn is because there's so much stuff I can't learn from experience (like architecture or quantum physics) 02:46 Keegan ill test t out mrtux 02:47 mrtux ok 02:48 JamieWill same to moz so send me it tommoz aswell bye i am away to sleep its 3:48 am night night everyone :) 02:48 mrtux night 02:48 Keegan night 02:48 JamieWill sleep tight lol 02:53 RealBadAngel Keegan, almost 11pm. shouldnt you be in bed? 02:54 Keegan plz stop talking about me 02:56 VanessaE bed? doesn't that have something to do with this weird concept called sleep? I must know more, as both have been somewhat alien to me lately :-) 02:58 Keegan RealBadAngel when will you finsh you mod 02:58 sdzen sleep i havent thought of that in a long time 02:58 RealBadAngel sleep? whats that? 02:58 Basstard` You're all sleeping right now. 02:58 RealBadAngel craft recipe? 02:59 VanessaE RealBadAngel: 02:59 VanessaE MF MF MF 02:59 VanessaE S S S 02:59 VanessaE W W 02:59 VanessaE MF = Memory Foam, S = Steel Ingot, W = Wood 02:59 VanessaE ;-) 02:59 Keegan RealBadAngel: when will your mod be release i would like it on my server 02:59 RealBadAngel hehehe 02:59 sdzen is that where all those hours go where i could be doing something usefull then suddenly you regain consiousness on the floor? 03:00 VanessaE sdzen: yeah that's the one 03:00 RealBadAngel Keegan: send your ID scan 03:00 Keegan why 03:00 RealBadAngel to be whitelisted 03:00 Keegan for what 03:00 Basstard` sdzen: And then when you regain conciousness you realize you are actually still unconcious. 03:00 sdzen isnt that lucid dreaming? 03:01 VanessaE Basstard`: well if we're all asleep, then by extension this must be a dream 03:01 Basstard` VanessaE: Indeed. 03:01 Keegan for what RealBadAngle 03:01 RealBadAngel or another question 03:01 VanessaE if so, may it continue indefinitely so my husband and I can stay together forever :-) 03:01 RealBadAngel whos dream are we dreaming 03:02 sdzen big brothers of course 03:02 sdzen he is watching you know 03:03 VanessaE well then I have THIS to say to Big Brother: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/Gesture_raised_fist_with_middle_finger_lifted.jpg 03:03 VanessaE ;) 03:04 RealBadAngel lol 03:04 Keegan Sorry Guys about earlier 03:04 mrtux ah 03:04 mrtux yeah' 03:04 mrtux i forgive 03:04 sdzen i forget 03:04 RealBadAngel sorry? you will learn what does it mean 03:05 sdzen but something tells me i wont forgive just yet 03:05 sdzen what am i not forgiving this time again :P 03:05 sdzen it gets hard to keep track 03:06 VanessaE haha 03:06 RealBadAngel Keegan: i can see just one solution 03:06 Keegan what 03:06 RealBadAngel you will make topic in forums, and will appologize for your behaviour 03:07 RealBadAngel if not 03:07 Keegan uhhhhhh cant post in forums for a day 03:07 RealBadAngel you will be really sorry 03:07 Keegan Who is the main developer of Minetest? (nickname) 03:07 RealBadAngel celeron 55 03:08 Keegan trying to post something but it dont go away 03:08 Basstard` VanessaE: It may if you know how. This "life" is but a mere tool to go from temporary to eternal. From me to we. 03:08 sdzen please spray paint your apology on the most valuable land mark in your area take a picture of it then relay it to me 03:08 sdzen then forgiveness will be achieved 03:08 VanessaE heh 03:08 Keegan why cant i past the questons 03:09 Keegan ?? 03:09 Keegan help 03:09 RealBadAngel try harder 03:09 Keegan did 03:09 RealBadAngel time is ticking 03:09 RealBadAngel and zombie botnet awaits orders 03:09 Keegan current sable verson? 03:09 Keegan M SORRY 03:10 RealBadAngel 0.4.1 i think ;) 03:10 Keegan didnt work 03:11 sdzen its just 0.4 that needs to be typed 03:12 Keegan VanessaE can ii get unban earlier on the forum plz 03:12 Keegan i need to talk to madchicken 03:13 VanessaE I didn't ban you, so it would not be right for me to issue an unban 03:13 Keegan who ban me? 03:14 Keegan then can you tell madchicken on ,my forum 03:14 VanessaE dunno 03:14 Keegan plz plz 03:14 VanessaE besides, you posted earlier today 03:15 VanessaE (though it does say banned now) 03:15 * VanessaE shrugs 03:15 VanessaE you should just wait it out 03:15 Keegan fine ill just go on my sisters account 03:16 VanessaE No, probably you should not do that 03:16 VanessaE she might get banned also 03:16 VanessaE besides, your IP address is probably banned entirely so that wouldn't help 03:16 sdzen guest account! 03:16 sdzen with an ip bait and switch 03:17 mrtux use tor 03:18 Keegan no its not actually ban 03:18 Keegan it must be just the account 03:18 mrtux if it's ip ban use tor, but only for legitimate reasons 03:19 mrtux it's not too private either 03:19 Keegan tor? 03:19 NakedFury there is nothing private 03:20 sdzen even your thoughts arent private 03:21 * VanessaE adjusts her tinfoil hat 03:21 VanessaE you'll never get into MY thoughts! :-) 03:21 NakedFury doesnt work, professor xavier still in your mind 03:21 VanessaE " 03:21 VanessaE Topics with new posts 03:21 VanessaE There are no topics with new posts since your last visit. " 03:21 VanessaE :-( 03:21 VanessaE (where 'last visit' was roughly 5 mins ago :D ) 03:21 RealBadAngel xavier, move a bit, youre not the only one 03:22 Basstard` VanessaE: We put that thought inside your head that tinfoil hats helps to protect you, but actually it gives us greater access. 03:22 Keegan because cant pass the dumb questions 03:22 VanessaE Keegan: those questions are mainly there to help stop spammers 03:22 VanessaE (robots can't usually answer them but people can) 03:23 Keegan i cant anwser them either 03:23 RealBadAngel does the questions actually check users iq? 03:23 sdzen hmmm maybe your a robot then keegan 03:23 Keegan ok 03:23 sdzen try to open your access port 03:24 Keegan again? 03:24 sdzen yes again 03:24 sdzen once to make sure you have one twice to make sure its not a illusion 03:25 Keegan gtg good niight yall 03:26 RealBadAngel 23:26 about time 03:27 Basstard` Lookin' like a fool. 03:27 VanessaE ... 03:28 sdzen OP please grant less fool appearance to this Basstard 03:28 RealBadAngel what is the time zone for Oregon? 03:28 VanessaE Pacific 03:28 * Basstard` puts on the music from Black Lamp. 03:28 VanessaE GMT-8 I think 03:28 RealBadAngel and Michigan? 03:28 VanessaE Central (GMT-6) I think 03:28 VanessaE scratch that 03:28 VanessaE Eastern (GMT-5) 03:29 RealBadAngel so 23:26 03:29 sdzen yep 03:29 VanessaE *nod* 03:29 RealBadAngel is Or or michigan? 03:31 mrtux i'm going to bed 03:31 mrtux night 03:31 VanessaE 23:26 would be Michigan 03:33 RealBadAngel yeah, michigan 03:34 RealBadAngel turned off his pc 03:34 RealBadAngel checked 03:49 VanessaE zzz 04:06 loldongs back 04:07 VanessaE wb 04:08 loldongs thanks 04:26 VanessaE bbl 04:58 leo_rockway how to get the name of the node that has just been dug? I'm trying to use after_dig_node = func(pos, oldnode, oldmetadata, digger) but printing oldnode.name doesn't seem to work. 05:08 leo_rockway actually, what I need is something like minetest.register_on_dignode but that happens during digging, not after digging. 05:45 * VanessaE wanders back in, sleepless as usual 06:09 leo_rockway sleepless in Seattle? 06:09 VanessaE weary in Waynesville. 06:10 leo_rockway Bruce Waynesville? 06:10 VanessaE Waynesville, NC where I live 06:10 leo_rockway oh, I have a friend from NC 06:11 leo_rockway actually, he was here too 06:11 leo_rockway Tekk 06:11 VanessaE just "a" friend? well what am I, chopped liver? ;_) 06:12 VanessaE ;-) 06:12 leo_rockway o.o 06:12 leo_rockway well, I've known Tekk for years now. 06:13 VanessaE I was kidding :-) 06:13 leo_rockway besides, I like chopped liver... *nose up* 06:13 VanessaE haha 06:21 OldCoder Bruce Waynesville? 06:21 OldCoder There's a joke they probably haven't heard before :P 06:21 OldCoder :-) 06:22 * OldCoder likes liver too 06:45 * VanessaE pokes at all in channel for signs of life 06:46 * darkrose pokes VanessaE back 06:47 VanessaE ok, so... 1 vote for the top, 2 for the middle, 4 for the bottom image: 06:47 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/mesecons-testing1.png 06:47 VanessaE also, hi :-) 06:51 VanessaE darkrose: opinions? 06:52 Basstard` I vote for the right one. 06:52 VanessaE ha! 06:54 * darkrose likes the top one 06:55 VanessaE ok, 2:2:4 then. Here's what's implemented now btw: digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/mesecons-testing2.pngha 06:55 VanessaE (thicknesses as in the bottom image, with some tweaks) 06:57 VanessaE I think this flushes out the last of the raillike and signlike nodes :-) 06:57 Basstard` How thick do you like it? 06:58 VanessaE that would depend on the quality and the cut ;-) 07:08 VanessaE hyey sfan 07:09 sfan5 hi 07:13 sfan5 VanessaE: your mesecons nodebox looks awesome 07:13 VanessaE thanks :-) 07:13 VanessaE I did the nodeboxes and textures, jeija did the code :-) 07:20 VanessaE sfan5: which do you prefer of the three? 07:20 sfan5 you made 3 different nodeboxes? 07:21 VanessaE sort of. load, snap screenshot, shut down, edit the code, repeat 07:22 VanessaE hm, just realized the "here's how it looks in practice" was a broken link 07:22 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/mesecons-testing2.png 07:22 VanessaE that's better. 07:27 OldCoder Zzz 07:27 Basstard` Don't sleep, OldCoder. You'll never wake up. 07:27 OldCoder z 07:28 saschaheylik hey what do you think of this as a main menu background track for minetest? http://www.greatgamemusic.com/free_game_music.php 07:29 VanessaE no music in minetest please :-) 07:29 saschaheylik why not? 07:29 saschaheylik not even in the menu? 07:29 VanessaE not a bad tune though 07:29 VanessaE (the one that played when I clicked the link. sort of a jungle theme) 07:29 saschaheylik yes that one 07:30 saschaheylik menus without any background music feel sort of "dead" 07:30 saschaheylik i dont see a reason not to use one 07:30 saschaheylik especially if we have the amazing ability to produce buttons that can toggle sound on/off 07:30 VanessaE if it's "free" music, why is there a "buy" button? 07:30 saschaheylik "Contact me using the form on the right to get the full, high-quality version without the watermark - absolutely free :)" 07:31 saschaheylik should i contact him or do you want to? 07:31 VanessaE yeah i saw that 07:31 VanessaE well it's not up to me, it's up to c55 :-) 07:31 saschaheylik isn't it up to everyone and noone? 07:31 saschaheylik open source.. ? 07:32 VanessaE oh sure, but celeron55 still has ultimate authority to accept patches to his code 07:32 saschaheylik i dont see a reason not to include features that can be turned off 07:33 saschaheylik well im putting it in even if its just for me lol 07:33 sfan5 VanessaE: i like the last one 07:33 VanessaE saschaheylik: well ask c55 in -dev and see what he says 07:34 VanessaE sfan5: ok. that's 2 for the top, 2 for the middle, 5 for the bottom. I think consensus has been reached ;-) 07:35 VanessaE saschaheylik: you should offer to code a patch to add it (and with a button to disable music) 07:35 saschaheylik im doing that 07:40 VanessaE sfan5: I think these new nodebox-based wires definitely asks for that tweak I mentioned to the particles mod ;-) 07:40 VanessaE -s 07:40 sfan5 yes 07:41 leo_rockway VanessaE: what tweak? 07:41 leo_rockway I'm hacking on the particles mod right now o.o 07:41 VanessaE (ironically, I still haven't reworked my photorealistic textures to fit the new mesecons models) 07:41 leo_rockway I added on punch to it, so far. 07:41 VanessaE leo_rockway: particles don't spawn centered on torches and mese wires, and they don't spawn often enough in the former case 07:41 VanessaE (IMHO) 07:42 leo_rockway oh, those particles... I'm working on the digging particles. 07:42 VanessaE leo_rockway: you mean particles flying *while* digging? 07:42 leo_rockway mhm 07:42 VanessaE nice! 07:42 leo_rockway but on punch ~= while digging 07:42 leo_rockway it's only on the first punch 07:42 leo_rockway I can't seem to find anything that means "while digging" 07:42 VanessaE you'll figure it out 07:43 saschaheylik could you please summarize the role of mods in minetest so i know what im looking for? 07:44 VanessaE saschaheylik: the purpose of mods is to add extra code to the game, in the form of the LUA language, such at the code results in new features such as more blocks, different behavior with existing items, etc. 07:45 saschaheylik including mobs? 07:45 VanessaE mods do not involve changes to the engine code (unless c55 decides to expose some new API element) but rather are run separately by an LUA engine. 07:45 VanessaE mobs too, yes. 07:45 saschaheylik and other players? 07:45 VanessaE not sure how the game handles other players. 07:45 leo_rockway NPC? 07:45 leo_rockway there are some NPCish mods 07:45 VanessaE NPCs can be added in the form of lua mods, like Workers 07:45 leo_rockway I was thinking of the workers, yes. 07:45 saschaheylik i cant find where the other players are rendered 07:46 saschaheylik i want to make them properly 3d 07:46 VanessaE saschaheylik: forget it. 3d players is off c55's radar 07:46 saschaheylik lol? 07:46 leo_rockway that can't be done with Lua mods. At least not properly. 07:46 VanessaE waste of time unless you can work out how to make a really flexible player model engine 07:46 saschaheylik blocks 07:47 saschaheylik with connections sorta like in gmod if you know it 07:47 leo_rockway that's the "not properly" way that animals uses. 07:47 saschaheylik animals? 07:47 VanessaE in theory a person could make a mob out of several entities 07:47 leo_rockway animals is a mod 07:47 saschaheylik oh 07:47 leo_rockway which is a misnomer, because it also has mobs 07:47 leo_rockway evil mobs 07:48 saschaheylik dont you think that with more or less changes to the code it would work "properly" ? 07:48 VanessaE leo_rockway: on_dig = func(pos, node, digger), 07:49 VanessaE maybe that function? 07:49 VanessaE ^ default: minetest.node_dig 07:49 VanessaE ^ By default: checks privileges, wears out tool and removes node 07:49 leo_rockway yup, but I couldn't figure out how to use it... 07:49 leo_rockway :S 07:49 leo_rockway minetest.on_dig ? 07:50 VanessaE it would have to be inserted into every register_node call 07:50 xing_zhi put it in your node defs 07:50 leo_rockway oh... mmhh 07:50 leo_rockway but the nodes are already registered 07:50 VanessaE on_dig = function(pos, node, digger) 07:50 VanessaE your code here 07:50 VanessaE end 07:50 VanessaE or something to that effect 07:50 leo_rockway yeah, I thought that it had to be defined on the node defs, but then I have to redefine all the nodes. 07:50 VanessaE (where your code here would preferably be a single function call to your particles routine) 07:51 Basstard` minetest.win_game 07:51 sfan5 leo_rockway: particles while digging are not possible, there are only functions for digging_completed and on_punch 07:52 sfan5 there is no function like minetest.env:is_player_digging(name) 07:52 VanessaE isn't there a function that looks at the pointed node? 07:52 VanessaE and another that gets the node's damage level? 07:53 leo_rockway sfan5: yes, that's what I thought... 07:53 leo_rockway but VanessaE's hack could work... 07:53 VanessaE so use the on_globalstep function to check the current pointed node say 10x a second, at every check take note of the node damage. If the damage increased since the last check, throw a few particles 07:54 VanessaE (actually, checking maybe 5x/second or even less would do) 07:55 VanessaE hrm, I'm not seeing a function to check a node's damage/wear level, so instead check the *tool* 07:55 VanessaE if the tool's wear level is seen to be increasing, let that be the indicator that the player is digging 07:56 xing_zhi or trow tool particles 07:56 VanessaE get_wear(): returns tool wear (0-65535), 0 for non-tools 07:57 leo_rockway yeah, the problem with using get_wear is that you can dig with your hand or with other blocks. 07:57 VanessaE yeah I know 07:57 VanessaE it's a start though 07:59 VanessaE wait 08:00 VanessaE set a counter each time the user punches 08:00 VanessaE then check the "wear" 08:00 VanessaE if it's 0, update the counter - this means "digging with a non-tool"\ 08:01 VanessaE then check: if (timer_new != timer_old ) or (wear_new != wear_old) then throw digging particles 08:01 VanessaE sound good? 08:02 VanessaE hm, that might not work either 08:02 sfan5 VanessaE: the tool wear is only increased when the player finished digging 08:03 VanessaE sfan5: damn it :( 08:03 VanessaE ok we have to go at this manually then 08:03 VanessaE does the game register a punch each time you *click*, or each time your fist/tool *hits* the node? 08:03 sfan5 and on_punch is only called when the player punches the block (only 1 when he starts digging) 08:03 VanessaE damn damn damn 08:03 sfan5 see above 08:03 sfan5 its not possible 08:03 sfan5 i know how minetest works 08:04 leo_rockway can't the health of the node be checked? 08:04 VanessaE apparently not. 08:04 leo_rockway =[ 08:04 VanessaE can you watch for a mouse button to go up/down? 08:04 sfan5 no 08:05 VanessaE damn 08:06 sfan5 yes, thats right 08:06 VanessaE can't blame me for looking into it though :-) 08:18 VanessaE let's see what c55 says to that ;-) 08:20 sfan5 yeah 08:21 VanessaE sfan5: you're up :-) 08:27 leo_rockway I'd also like to get the texture of a node by name... I can't seems to find that either. 08:27 darkrose eww, particles mod's sole purpose is to slow frame-rates to crawl 08:28 sfan5 leo_rockway: minetest.registered_nodes[name].texture or so 08:28 VanessaE darkrose: so let only users with good video cards use it :-) 08:28 leo_rockway okay... then don't install it. 08:28 leo_rockway sfan5: awesome! 08:37 xing_zhi argh, reading dev log, but i gotta go. bye 08:37 VanessaE er, bye? 08:41 VanessaE cal 08:41 Calinou inou 08:41 Calinou hi ;) 08:42 VanessaE Calinou: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/mesecons-testing2.png 08:42 VanessaE nodebox mesecons :-) 08:42 Calinou looks good 08:42 Calinou *switches to misa's pack* 08:42 Calinou looks like crap 08:42 VanessaE haha 08:42 Calinou ^ how I feel when previously-2D blocks turn 3D using nodeboxes 08:43 VanessaE actually these should look good among misa's textures also, save for being low-resolution compared. 08:43 Calinou download link for the 3d mesecons? 08:43 Calinou so that I can test :P 08:44 VanessaE you need this: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons 08:44 VanessaE and this: https://github.com/VanessaE/mesecon-wires-new 08:44 VanessaE you'll need to uninstall your old mesecons mod (and back it up) and switch to these two 08:45 Calinou works with 0.4.1, or is 0.4.2 required? 08:45 leo_rockway I hate Lua. I could be doing things so much faster in Python :S 08:45 VanessaE Calinou: tested under 0.4.1 08:45 VanessaE should work in 0.4.2 also 08:45 Calinou leo_rockway, python is slower 08:46 Calinou and sucks a lot 08:46 leo_rockway -.- 08:46 Calinou OMG 2.6 2.7 3.0 4.999999 08:46 leo_rockway /ignore Calinou 08:46 leo_rockway don't insult Python D: 08:46 Calinou ^ the version issues with python drive people away 08:46 leo_rockway there are two versions 08:46 cy1 leo_rockway: how about that print statement syntax? 08:46 leo_rockway 2.7 and 3.x 08:46 VanessaE leo_rockway: python is why Inkscape sucks :-) 08:47 leo_rockway Inkscape sucks? 08:47 Calinou yet is the only good free SVG editor 08:47 VanessaE don't get me wrong it's a good program 08:47 VanessaE but let's face it. sometimes it just gets *stupid* :-) 08:47 leo_rockway how do I implement a simple try except in Lua? 08:47 cy1 leo_rockway: how about that complete lack of support for tail call optimization? 08:47 leo_rockway cy1: I have no idea what that is. 08:47 cy1 of course you don't. You like python! 08:48 VanessaE leo_rockway: "a simple try"? 08:48 leo_rockway VanessaE: I barely ever touched Inkscape... 08:48 cy1 "simple" try <_< 08:48 leo_rockway VanessaE: try -> except 08:48 Calinou yay, mesecons work as a mod pack 08:48 Calinou crafted mesecons from mese are 2D though 08:48 cy1 leo_rockway: pcall, at any rate. result, err = pcall(...) then an if statement if result is nil or somethin 08:48 VanessaE Calinou: it's still experimental 08:48 VanessaE Calinou: /giveme wires:00000000_off 999 08:48 leo_rockway stupid Lua 08:49 cy1 0000000? c.C 08:49 VanessaE (there are exactly eight 0's there) 08:49 VanessaE cy1: binary. :-) 08:49 cy1 sounds hackish 08:49 VanessaE it's a hack but a beautiful one :-) 08:49 Calinou hacks 08:49 * Calinou runs away with a bicycle 08:49 VanessaE I'll add an alias later so you can just /giveme wires:wire or something 08:50 Calinou works! these have separate textures so they don't have misa textures 08:50 VanessaE correct 08:50 cy1 Oh hey how about when you use loop variables in closures, all the closures use the last iteration not the one in which they were created? That drives me nuts about python. 08:51 Calinou hold on, adding misa pack support to your 3D mesecons :P 08:51 cy1 Also, twisted. :< 08:51 VanessaE wait 08:51 VanessaE not yet 08:51 Calinou why? 08:52 VanessaE don't go modifying your tex pack, this is still experimental. 08:53 VanessaE Calinou: please re-pull the wires repo. 08:53 VanessaE you can now /giveme wires:wire 08:57 VanessaE there, gave the default wire a meaningful description. 08:57 VanessaE ("Mesecons Wire") 08:59 Calinou ah okay 09:00 Calinou irrelevant, but how I feel about minecraft lava sometimes: http://i.imgur.com/gzesm.jpg 09:00 Calinou :P 09:00 VanessaE haha 09:01 VanessaE Calinou: re-pull again to get that last bit with the fixed description. 09:01 Calinou windows doesn't know the word "pull", only "redownload the zipball" :p 09:01 VanessaE ok then do that :-) 09:01 VanessaE (I'm kinda surprised there isn't a decent git client for windows by now) 09:01 Calinou inefficient since 2007(R) 09:02 Calinou tortoisegit is horribly borked 09:02 VanessaE heh 09:02 Calinou it brings my CPU usage to 100% and flashes icon thumbnails 09:02 Calinou this is why I uninstalled it 09:22 * VanessaE waits patiently for jeija to return 09:23 VanessaE I must have commentary from him re: my latest commits :-) 10:25 Calinou redcrab, tu devrais mettre à jour moreblocks sur ton serv ^^ 10:26 thexyz is there a way to disable debug.txt completly? 10:26 VanessaE thexyz: symlink to /dev/null ? 10:26 VanessaE Calinou: give up. I've been bugging him for weeks to add some of my mods too and he won't :-) 10:27 thexyz too hacky =( 10:27 thexyz but stil acceptable 10:36 RealBadAngel hi every1 10:36 PilzAdam hi 10:37 RealBadAngel sorry for delay with release 10:37 RealBadAngel i found just before uploading upate a very nasty bug 10:37 RealBadAngel was fighting with it whole night 10:38 VanessaE hey RBA 10:38 RealBadAngel hello V 10:39 RealBadAngel i will just drink one beer, take a shover and go ahead with code 10:40 PilzAdam drink 2 and the code will work! 10:40 RealBadAngel i do live in suburb 10:41 RealBadAngel and had such luck today, since its weekend 10:41 RealBadAngel that next bus could come in 1,5h 10:41 RealBadAngel so decided to walk 10:41 RealBadAngel 15km 10:42 RealBadAngel because i was late 2min for previous one 10:43 RealBadAngel on the bus stop there were sittin two women, aged like 60, maybe little more 10:44 RealBadAngel and when i asked if the bus was there (because time can vary, minutes) 10:44 RealBadAngel they said no, we still waitin,it should come any minute now 10:45 RealBadAngel so waited too 10:45 RealBadAngel 15 minutes no bus at all 10:45 RealBadAngel checked the time table on the bus stop 10:45 RealBadAngel checked calendar in my cell phone 10:46 RealBadAngel and asked those women 10:46 RealBadAngel do you know that we have saturday today? (buses have then differnt plan) 10:47 RealBadAngel i heard:o fuck 10:47 VanessaE haha 10:51 RealBadAngel believe me, very funny to hear two old woman say together like in choir: fuck. 10:52 VanessaE lol 10:53 * VanessaE looks out the window, looks at the clock, and looks out the window again. 10:53 RealBadAngel checkin if its saturday outside? 10:53 VanessaE 06:53 and I have not yet slept. Another all-nighter. gevalt 10:54 RealBadAngel w? 10:55 RealBadAngel gewalt you meant? 10:55 VanessaE gevalt. 10:55 VanessaE as in Oy Gevalt. 10:55 VanessaE (never seen it spelled German-style) 10:55 PilzAdam A yiddish term meaning "Oh goodness!" An expression of utmost anxiety or shock. from http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oy%20gevalt 10:56 RealBadAngel gwewalt = means violence 10:56 PilzAdam its german 10:56 PilzAdam but gevalt is not gewalt 10:56 VanessaE Yiddish != German :-) 10:56 RealBadAngel oh, yidish 10:56 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, your german? 10:56 RealBadAngel sounded german to me 10:57 RealBadAngel no, but lived by berlin for a few years 10:57 RealBadAngel in Zossen 10:57 PilzAdam dont know 10:57 PilzAdam i live in Niedersachsen 10:58 RealBadAngel during WW2 general Abwhera HQ was there 10:58 PilzAdam Niedersachsen in english is Lower Saxony 10:58 PilzAdam :) 10:58 RealBadAngel nieder means down, low 10:58 PilzAdam yes 10:59 RealBadAngel NiederLands = self explaining 11:00 RealBadAngel hi troll 11:00 RealBadAngel hows the saturday? 11:00 NekoGloop Hello stupid 11:00 PilzAdam Hi all 11:00 NekoGloop I just woke up 11:00 Cornernote Hey 11:00 RealBadAngel now? 11:00 NekoGloop A few minutes ago 11:00 PilzAdam i woke up a hour ago 11:00 VanessaE neko 11:00 RealBadAngel 11am? 11:01 NekoGloop Its 7am here 11:01 RealBadAngel lucky you that u can 11:01 PilzAdam 1pm 11:01 NekoGloop Vanessae, what? 11:01 RealBadAngel ctcp said 11am 11:01 VanessaE NekoGloop - mesecons test code. Get THIS: https://github.com/Jeija/mesecon-wires-new 11:01 VanessaE and THIS: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons 11:01 NekoGloop I'm still on my ipad 11:01 VanessaE heh ok 11:01 PilzAdam Apple = quality shit 11:02 NekoGloop I think i can download it then transfer to my comp though 11:03 NekoGloop Well no sh 11:03 NekoGloop Imfrifmds 11:03 NekoGloop Damn this keyboard 11:03 NekoGloop Well no shit the ipad cant read the file. 11:04 * RealBadAngel opens that 2nd beer. once done with it i will quit irc for a while. talkin too much doesnt speed code ;) 11:04 VanessaE RealBadAngel: maybe not but socializing is good for the mind and soul 11:04 VanessaE or some other metaphysical shit :-) 11:04 RealBadAngel indeed 11:05 RealBadAngel that piece you called insane.... 11:05 RealBadAngel its up to you 11:05 NekoGloop Wireless items need to be available again :P 11:05 RealBadAngel talked coded 11:05 VanessaE NekoGloop: jeija needs help with the code for those 11:05 RealBadAngel with wireless? 11:06 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I forgot the insane comment, refresh my memory please :-) 11:06 VanessaE yeah, wireless devices in mesecons are broken and when last I read, jeija didn't know how to fix the, 11:06 VanessaE them* 11:06 RealBadAngel it was like "you, sir, are fuckin insane" 11:06 * RealBadAngel bows down 11:06 VanessaE RealBadAngel: that was a complement :-) 11:07 NekoGloop Did mesecon torches obtain {mesecon=1}? Last change to those was 10 days ago... 11:07 VanessaE [08-08 00:27] RealBadAngel: *looks at code* you, sir, are fucking insane :-) 11:07 VanessaE [08-08 00:27] lol 11:07 VanessaE [08-08 00:27] why? 11:07 VanessaE [08-08 00:28] this is genius. needs some comments btw 11:07 RealBadAngel and that was like best one i heard even on my code 11:07 RealBadAngel thank you 11:07 VanessaE NekoGloop: no, they didn't because torches aren't used like most other blocks. 11:08 NekoGloop And movestones were last edited 2months ago 11:08 VanessaE NekoGloop: you stick them onto the side of a block, pointing "outward" 11:08 VanessaE but maybe they should be. 11:08 RealBadAngel back to wireless 11:08 RealBadAngel i think i know wheres the problem 11:09 NekoGloop Did rba release his code finally? 11:09 RealBadAngel unloading chunks 11:09 RealBadAngel once unloaded all such stuff will stop 11:09 RealBadAngel we need to create somehow a fake player 11:10 RealBadAngel havin such fake in place, chunks will stay loaded 11:10 PilzAdam this would slow down the server 11:11 RealBadAngel just a few chunks wont slow it down too much 11:11 RealBadAngel i mean blocks 11:11 RealBadAngel chunk is mc word 11:11 PilzAdam i know 11:11 PilzAdam this is a engine thing 11:12 thexyz RealBadAngel: what do you mean by "few blocks"? 11:12 thexyz its count will increase and increase 11:12 RealBadAngel +3 each direction? 11:12 thexyz that's even worse 11:12 RealBadAngel inside such zone there will be another space to build a base 11:13 RealBadAngel minecraft modders made such stuff 11:13 RealBadAngel its called for example "World Anchor" 11:13 RealBadAngel and can be even put into cart 11:13 VanessaE NekoGloop: fixed. re-pull from mesecons repo. 11:14 VanessaE from mine that is. 11:14 RealBadAngel so trains can travel without need of player to be around 11:14 PilzAdam how can i add this to my carts? 11:14 PilzAdam have to go 11:14 RealBadAngel like a chest, same way 11:14 VanessaE THIS one, https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-mod-mesecons 11:14 VanessaE and THIS one, https://github.com/VanessaE/mesecon-wires-new 11:15 VanessaE (I linked to jeija's the first time, but his is not up-to-date with my changes yet) 11:15 RealBadAngel but still, need that fake player 11:15 RealBadAngel once done, can be moved with pos like 11:15 RealBadAngel and placed 11:16 RealBadAngel and will keep the blocks loaded 11:16 VanessaE how do you get rid of them? 11:16 RealBadAngel once put inside cart, it will just move along 11:16 RealBadAngel like real player 11:17 NekoGloop I imagine you get rid of them by killing them ;) 11:17 RealBadAngel lol 11:17 RealBadAngel it shall be a node like 11:17 RealBadAngel possible to place 11:18 RealBadAngel like u choose place for your base 11:18 RealBadAngel place the anchor in center 11:18 RealBadAngel so all your machines will work even youre away for mining 11:19 RealBadAngel and your trains will be goin around 11:19 RealBadAngel for example like in RailCraft mod,one with bore on it, makin tunnels 11:21 RealBadAngel when worried bout server load limit usage for 1 or 2 anchors per player 11:21 VanessaE + 11:21 VanessaE oops 11:22 RealBadAngel i did such thing with chests networks 11:22 RealBadAngel called node subspace beacon 11:22 RealBadAngel and storing in it network data 11:23 VanessaE "subspace beacon" heh 11:24 OldCoder 4:22am VanessaE: You weren't kidding 11:24 OldCoder Hmm 11:24 * OldCoder read that as subspace bacon 11:25 * VanessaE hands OldCoder some (virtual) eggs and cheese 11:25 * OldCoder reviews the virtual comestibles with interest 11:25 * OldCoder consumes the virtual comestibles with interest 11:27 VanessaE hehe 11:30 * NekoGloop picks up his evil sword 11:31 * NekoGloop swings it at vanessae 11:31 * VanessaE dodges skillfully 11:31 RealBadAngel i thout for a minute i messen it with bacon lol 11:31 RealBadAngel *messed 11:32 RealBadAngel luckily i havent ;) 11:33 * NekoGloop swings again 11:33 * VanessaE dodges skillfully 11:34 RealBadAngel http://translate.google.pl/?hl=pl&tab=wT#en/pl/beacon 11:34 * NekoGloop grabs another evil sword and swings them both at vanessae 11:34 RealBadAngel 2nd meanin is exactly i meant 11:35 * VanessaE counters with ...some random "good" thing... *evil swords disintegrate* 11:36 * NekoGloop gets fourth-wa 11:36 NekoGloop Ljfnnfjdnsdk 11:36 RealBadAngel whizzzzz. red light saber turned on. who wants to be sliced? ;) 11:36 NekoGloop Im outta here 11:36 VanessaE ? 11:36 RealBadAngel lol 11:37 VanessaE oh well, I need to sleep now. I'm about out of gas. 11:37 RealBadAngel ok, i will take the shift 11:38 * VanessaE hands RealBadAngel a spare iteration of her Furious Wind move, just in case. 11:38 RealBadAngel oke doke, area secured 11:38 VanessaE (imagine an EF-5 tornado emanating from your hands in whatever direction your palms are pointing) 11:38 RealBadAngel you may sleep well now 11:39 VanessaE ciao :-) 11:39 RealBadAngel c ya later aligator ;) 11:42 RealBadAngel came around lately around very interesting and innovative mod 11:42 RealBadAngel for minecraft 11:42 RealBadAngel who is makin nether mod for mt? 11:43 NekoGloop Hello again :3 11:43 RealBadAngel he should take a look on this: 11:43 RealBadAngel http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/918541-125-mystcraft-09100/ 11:44 RealBadAngel this idea rocks 11:46 RealBadAngel before any one ask bout server load 11:46 NekoGloop What about server load? 11:46 * NekoGloop trolololo's off 11:46 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQy8SOuHY4k 11:46 tripod YEAH 11:46 tripod boiz. 11:47 RealBadAngel look at it in action 11:47 tripod looks cool RealBadAngel 11:47 RealBadAngel SMP server with ALL the minecraft modders on it 11:48 RealBadAngel all that count at least ;) 11:49 tripod :D 11:49 RealBadAngel lol 11:50 NekoGloop Lolwat 11:50 RealBadAngel that nick change 11:50 ReallySexyDevil you jelly 11:50 ReallySexyDevil imo 11:50 RealBadAngel @cornernote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQy8SOuHY4k 11:51 RealBadAngel take a look. interesting stuff 11:52 * cornernote looks 11:53 cornernote do u play there? 11:54 RealBadAngel no. i do watch DireWolf20's vids 11:55 RealBadAngel he is makin letsplays,mod spotlights 11:55 RealBadAngel hes good with it 11:56 cornernote basically watch to get mod ideas? 11:56 RealBadAngel on this particular server, multiplayer one he plays with almost all the best minecraft modders 11:56 NekoGloop I watch whoever the hell comes up on a search 11:56 RealBadAngel check his channel 11:57 RealBadAngel and season 2 of letsplay 11:57 cornernote i like these ones: http://www.youtube.com/user/CodeCrafted?feature=watch 11:57 cornernote i was thinking of trying to replicate some of the simple games 12:01 cornernote really like this one -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT-WciX7vDU&list=PL818997AE9E1D0B0C&index=2&feature=plcp 12:01 RealBadAngel so 12:01 RealBadAngel what will you say, sir, bout this: 12:01 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fi4gvDXBX4 12:03 cornernote nice.. uses that advanced wiring mod 12:03 cornernote i love redstone/mesecon contraptions 12:03 cornernote cant wait to see more in MT 12:04 RealBadAngel or this 12:04 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFfrQf53Xo&feature=related 12:04 RealBadAngel that is coool 12:04 RealBadAngel using carts for timing 12:05 cornernote how do those wires work? like is there 2 blocks in 1 place? 12:05 cornernote or is it 1 block that represents the 2 coloured wires 12:05 RealBadAngel bunch of cables 12:05 RealBadAngel 16 signals in one cable 12:05 cornernote so its a single "item" 12:06 RealBadAngel bundled cable its called 12:06 cornernote cool 12:06 RealBadAngel and takes just one node 12:06 RealBadAngel allows to make real complex stuff 12:07 cornernote yeah, and small 12:07 RealBadAngel exactly 12:07 RealBadAngel together with logic blocks 12:07 RealBadAngel gates 12:07 RealBadAngel its perfect 12:07 cornernote love your power stuff, when are you planning on sharing? 12:07 RealBadAngel and makes RedPower2 mod the best mod for minecraft imho 12:08 RealBadAngel was about to upload it last night 12:08 RealBadAngel but when testing i encountered a very nasty bug 12:09 RealBadAngel and was forced to find a solution 12:09 RealBadAngel needed to rebuild them all placing algorithms 12:09 RealBadAngel *then 12:10 RealBadAngel it was about to make wires do autocompletion on remove 12:10 RealBadAngel thought it shall be piece of cake 12:10 NekoGloop Well my personal fav part of mesecons is microcontrollers ;) 12:10 RealBadAngel since i wanted just to mirror rules 12:11 RealBadAngel but then game started to crash all the time 12:11 RealBadAngel im not quite sure if its my fault 12:11 RealBadAngel but when using on_destruct 12:11 RealBadAngel it was hell 12:12 RealBadAngel sometimes my routines were called like 100 times on removing one node 12:12 RealBadAngel sometimes not even once 12:12 cornernote strange 12:13 RealBadAngel rebult them 12:13 RealBadAngel and using differnt way now 12:13 RealBadAngel but im pretty sure on_destruct is fucked up 12:14 cornernote i have never used it 12:14 NekoGloop Isnt it after_destroy or something? 12:14 RealBadAngel there is other 12:14 RealBadAngel works almost the same 12:15 cornernote is it called when you do remove() instead of dig() ? 12:15 cornernote aswell 12:15 RealBadAngel lemme check 12:16 RealBadAngel after_dig_node = func(pos, oldnode, oldmetadata, digger), 12:16 RealBadAngel ^ oldmetadata is in table format 12:16 RealBadAngel ^ Called after destructing node when node was dug using 12:16 RealBadAngel minetest.node_dig 12:16 RealBadAngel ^ default: nil 12:16 cornernote wht not just use on_dig() ? 12:16 cornernote yeah that one - after 12:16 RealBadAngel i was tryin to use this one 12:16 RealBadAngel on_destruct = func(pos), 12:16 RealBadAngel ^ Node destructor; always called before removing node 12:16 RealBadAngel ^ default: nil 12:16 cornernote after_dig_node()( 12:16 NekoGloop That registers when you hit it. 12:17 RealBadAngel it was logical since i do need nodes meta before its gone 12:17 NekoGloop On_dig registers as soon as you smack a node, like switches in mesecons. 12:17 cornernote ok, and u want it to reshape when removed even if not dug 12:17 RealBadAngel to make reverse steps as it were created 12:18 RealBadAngel using it caused such errors 12:19 RealBadAngel on_construct works perfect 12:19 RealBadAngel on_destruct is propably fucked up 12:20 RealBadAngel i say propably since i can also make mistakes 12:20 NekoGloop No, it's just you ;) 12:20 RealBadAngel but believe me whole night was tryin to get it to work 12:21 RealBadAngel at the very end i just left print("shit") in routine 12:21 RealBadAngel and ended with endless shit in log 12:22 NekoGloop No, print("you have totally fucked up minetest now") ;) 12:22 RealBadAngel we can laugh, but its not actually funny ;) 12:23 RealBadAngel oh shit 12:24 RealBadAngel my log is over half a gig :) 12:24 cornernote haha 12:24 cornernote from how many games ? 12:25 RealBadAngel i think whole is just 2 days old 12:26 RealBadAngel checked last entries 12:26 RealBadAngel it wasnt actually "shit" 12:26 RealBadAngel it was polish word for ass 12:26 RealBadAngel "dupa" 12:26 RealBadAngel slang: done but wrong 12:27 RealBadAngel removing the node effected with 57 times "dupa" in log 12:29 RealBadAngel so it implies that on_destruct was called 57 times when removing one node 12:29 NekoGloop It's AS your destroying the node 12:29 NekoGloop Not as it is destroyed 12:30 RealBadAngel dont know whats the reason 12:30 RealBadAngel dropped this way 12:31 RealBadAngel 57 times 12:32 RealBadAngel think bout it 12:32 RealBadAngel something here is wrong 12:33 NekoGloop Hello nakedfury 12:34 NakedFury hello 12:35 NekoGloop Maybe your fury needs some clothes ;) 12:45 NekoGloop Should i go on my computer and actually install these mods? 13:01 RealBadAngel hi sdzen 13:01 sdzen ello 13:02 RealBadAngel better mood today? :) 13:02 sdzen better sleep today 13:02 RealBadAngel so i guess better mood then too 13:03 sdzen yep aside from the fact that despite being told I have internet by the computer i cant run any webpages 13:03 OldCoder sdzen, Explain 13:03 sdzen only IRC seems to be working 13:03 sdzen :P 13:03 OldCoder Windows ? 13:03 RealBadAngel got fixed ip? 13:03 sdzen linux 13:03 sdzen non fixed IP 13:03 OldCoder Should be easy to check 13:03 NakedFury that happens to me 13:04 OldCoder Is this DNS ? 13:04 RealBadAngel hmmmm 13:04 OldCoder Run nslookup 13:04 OldCoder server 8.8.8.8 13:04 OldCoder google.com 13:04 OldCoder Indicate output 13:04 RealBadAngel i think i have a solution for ya 13:04 RealBadAngel seen my http? 13:04 RealBadAngel its realbadangel.pl 13:05 RealBadAngel 100mb space 13:05 RealBadAngel ftp, email client 13:05 RealBadAngel for 2 yrs its free 13:05 NekoGloop Tell your computer to not block your internet client ;) 13:06 thexyz sdzen: ping 8.8.8.8 ? 13:06 RealBadAngel check 1and1 company 13:06 sdzen hmmmm 13:06 RealBadAngel its a german one but operates in poland too 13:07 RealBadAngel and i think even worldwide 13:07 sdzen ill just ignore that everything suddenly started working again :P 13:07 NekoGloop Ok then 13:08 RealBadAngel http://www.1and1.com/ 13:08 RealBadAngel take a look 13:08 RealBadAngel note: im not workin here ;) just using it and found it good 13:09 RealBadAngel talkin to the mirror. the best ;) 13:09 NekoGloop Yup 13:10 NekoGloop Likely he crashed his computer 13:10 RealBadAngel i know he likes to experiment 13:11 RealBadAngel but he sometimes pushes it to far ;) 13:11 NekoGloop Speaking of experimenting, any ideas for extending mesecons? 13:11 RealBadAngel yes 13:11 NekoGloop Other than water turbines that work with lava ;) 13:12 RealBadAngel but i think jeija should be also here for such kind of talk 13:12 NekoGloop Lol he'a back :) 13:12 NekoGloop He's* 13:12 sdzen of course im back 13:12 NekoGloop What did you do? 13:13 * RealBadAngel checks the list. no jeija. no mesecons talk ;) 13:13 NekoGloop Mesecons mesecons mesecons mesecons 13:13 RealBadAngel no way sir 13:13 NekoGloop MESECONS MESECONS MESECONS MESECONS 13:14 RealBadAngel i will say just one thing 13:14 RealBadAngel RS nor latch 13:14 NekoGloop MEEEEEEEEEEESECONS, 13:14 RealBadAngel one block 13:14 OldCoder sdzen, wb 13:14 NekoGloop MMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSEEEECOOOOOOOOOOONNNSSSSSSS~ 13:14 RealBadAngel once dode we can talk further 13:14 RealBadAngel *done 13:15 NekoGloop RS? 13:15 RealBadAngel ask uncle 13:15 NekoGloop ... So a nor block? 13:15 NekoGloop Ehic 13:15 NekoGloop Kefndsfnsjgnifs 13:16 NekoGloop That already exists in microcontroller 13:16 RealBadAngel http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/rs_nor_latch.html 13:16 RealBadAngel i need it outside 13:16 RealBadAngel for control logic 13:17 NekoGloop if(!A|!B) on(C) 13:17 NekoGloop NOR gate complete, i think 13:18 NekoGloop Idk 13:18 NekoGloop Needs an off event 13:19 NekoGloop if(A=B) off(C); if(A!=B) on(C); 13:19 NekoGloop That makes it so it can only have one input at a time, which i think is XOR 13:20 NekoGloop Assuming != is a valid operator 13:20 NekoGloop I think that != is the same as ~ 13:21 NekoGloop I wonder if minetest runs on my ipad with remote desktop... 13:22 NekoGloop Hm... RS NOR == NAND, right 13:23 NekoGloop . 13:23 NekoGloop ?* 13:25 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: RS NOR == NAND, right? 13:28 NekoGloop Ohai calinou 13:28 Calinou hi 13:28 NekoGloop Welcome to people fighting over mesecons microcontroller abilities ;) 13:29 Calinou wait 13:29 Calinou let me implement nvidia GPUs in minetest 13:29 Calinou i'll make their drivers proprietary 13:30 NekoGloop Lolno 13:30 Calinou :) 13:30 NekoGloop RS NOR latch == NAND, right? 13:31 Calinou nope 13:31 Calinou not at all 13:31 NekoGloop Ok then 13:31 Calinou NAND: if both inputs are off output is on 13:31 NekoGloop Explain how RS NOR is different 13:32 Calinou RS NOR is harder to explain... eg. if you change input 1 the output toggles. but to re-toggle the output you have to flip input 2, not input 1 13:32 Calinou see minecraft wiki for details :p 13:32 NekoGloop Ok... So... I have no idea 13:33 vicscandl Calinou: i was thinking of writing something that reads schematics and then drops a worldedit file that would produce said schematic in MT 13:34 Calinou worldedit can into schematics already 13:34 Calinou //load and //save 13:34 vicscandl oh, nice... 13:34 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 13:34 vicscandl i was thinking more like, feed it an apple //e schem and poof... 13:35 vicscandl ie util, not in game 13:35 NekoGloop ... 13:36 * vicscandl can hear all them gears grinding... 13:36 NekoGloop Wat 13:36 * NekoGloop 's gears are ground into oblivion 13:36 vicscandl ok think like this autocad file -> worldedit bulid but now think mesecons 13:37 NekoGloop MY HEEEEAD HUUUUUUUURTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 13:37 vicscandl does anything like that exist yet? 13:38 OldCoder Meow~ :3 13:38 OldCoder Remind me to introduce you to Bonsai Kitten 13:38 NekoGloop Yes? 13:38 NekoGloop Who dat? 13:39 OldCoder He meows a bit too. He's Gentoo; mentioned him before. 13:39 Calinou gentoo >:( 13:39 NekoGloop Mrowr! 13:39 OldCoder Calinou, good morning 13:39 Calinou afternoon here 13:39 Calinou europe FTW 13:39 OldCoder Good $Greeting {$ENV {TZ}} 13:40 vicscandl moof says the dogcow. 13:40 NekoGloop Mrowr says the catdino 13:41 vicscandl OldCoder: niceone btw 13:41 Calinou good $EDITOR 13:41 OldCoder vicscandl, ty 13:42 vicscandl OldCoder: clispeak is total OG 13:42 OldCoder vicscandl, All right 13:42 * OldCoder has been CLI for some time now 13:43 * OldCoder assumes he is interpreting the term CLI correctly 13:43 vicscandl bleh, nearing 40... clin3rd for life. 13:43 vicscandl command line interface 13:43 OldCoder As expected 13:43 * OldCoder is sort of CLI 13:44 vicscandl cut my teeth on 6502asm over 30 years ago. :) 13:44 * OldCoder looks up 13:44 OldCoder Did we talk previously? 13:44 OldCoder 30 years ago? 13:44 vicscandl prob 13:44 vicscandl hahaa 13:44 OldCoder But you are a pup :-) 13:45 * OldCoder remembers Model 33 ASR 13:45 OldCoder Does that count as CLI :-) ? 13:45 vicscandl been at this since 8. old man was an EE geek... 13:45 OldCoder EE geek 13:45 OldCoder can be good 13:45 vicscandl yea, i'm showing him mesecons when he gets back from his walkabout 13:45 * OldCoder googles the term mesecons 13:46 vicscandl its a MT mod here 13:46 RealBadAngel @OldCoder: Z80 demoscene coder here. but i do remember 6502 too 13:46 OldCoder Found it 13:46 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Yes 13:46 OldCoder Little brother tore apart a Pong game 13:46 OldCoder to get the 6502 13:46 OldCoder Made a little PC out of it 13:46 vicscandl Z80, nice... 13:47 * OldCoder used to code in 8085 13:47 RealBadAngel im pretty sure i had ALL machines built on z80 13:47 vicscandl my pops has a working pong machine in his office at home... so jealous! 13:47 RealBadAngel sinclairs, amstrads, timex 13:47 RealBadAngel polish and russian ones too 13:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, Mr. Kitten says: meow? 13:47 RealBadAngel Sam Coupe 13:48 NekoGloop Mrowr!! 13:48 RealBadAngel i do have Sam Coupe by now 13:48 vicscandl and damn, the demoscene... brings back memories 13:49 RealBadAngel Z80 system, with 512kb of memory, paged, 3,5fdd 13:49 RealBadAngel bleeding edge as for an 8bit system 13:49 vicscandl quite 13:50 RealBadAngel a second... 13:50 vicscandl one of these days i'll have to go get an emulator and screw around again 13:50 vicscandl z80 with access to a g of ram and tb of hd... mmmmmmmmm 13:50 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2oLYC5PigE 13:51 vicscandl pr0n? 13:51 vicscandl heheh 13:51 RealBadAngel one of the last demoes my by us 13:51 vicscandl watching now, thx 13:51 RealBadAngel scroll is on border 13:52 RealBadAngel hardcoded each processor tact 13:53 NekoGloop Uhm... Bouncy ball with words scrolling too fast on the top... >.> 13:53 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnhM2w3CGkA&feature=relmfu 13:53 RealBadAngel this entirely my part of the demo 13:54 RealBadAngel and one and the only try to use musicmaker lol 13:54 NekoGloop Lol 13:54 vicscandl 13:54 OldCoder NekoGloop, I have been advised: "beware bonsaikitten's attempts to enclose catdino in a jar." This is a reference to the original Bonsai Kitten advertisement. Such a product exists. 13:55 OldCoder Catjar 13:55 NekoGloop Mrowr!! 13:55 OldCoder :-) 13:55 NekoGloop 3 13:55 NekoGloop :3 13:55 * NekoGloop is a neko... Not catdino ;3 13:55 RealBadAngel and thats one of my games: 13:55 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noKH_RXHrVI 13:56 vicscandl amiga? 13:56 RealBadAngel still Z80 13:57 NekoGloop Could the scrolling words -not- bounce please? 13:57 RealBadAngel bouncing was cool those days ;) 13:58 vicscandl RealBadAngel: this is nice work man. 13:58 NekoGloop Holy crap big snake 13:58 NekoGloop Pacman meets snake ;) 13:59 vicscandl wow, round 2 takes a bit to pattern out... :) 13:59 * OldCoder saw the phrase catdino used 13:59 NekoGloop I'm a NEKO 13:59 NekoGloop NOT A CATDINO 14:00 OldCoder Very well 14:00 OldCoder The fact will be publicized 14:00 OldCoder Far and wide 14:00 NekoGloop Lol 14:00 NekoGloop It's in my name ;) 14:00 NekoGloop Do you even know what a neko is? 14:00 Calinou watching now, thx 14:00 Calinou lol 14:01 RealBadAngel oh shit 14:01 RealBadAngel i just realized something 14:01 RealBadAngel lemme find it 14:01 vicscandl Calinou: wat? 14:01 Calinou the 14:02 OldCoder NekoGloop, when you came up and licked me a few days ago I told you as much 14:02 * OldCoder had a neko desktop toy a decade or two back 14:02 NekoGloop When the hell did i do that lol 14:02 OldCoder Somebody with your handle did so recently 14:02 * OldCoder was not sure of the social conventions involved 14:02 RealBadAngel i just realized i made a game like 15 yrs ago 14:02 RealBadAngel and it was called "Craft!" 14:03 RealBadAngel hehehehe 14:03 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Just Craft? 14:03 OldCoder Not AngelCraft etc. ? 14:03 RealBadAngel "Craft!" 14:03 OldCoder It is an inspiring title 14:03 OldCoder Promises much 14:03 RealBadAngel it was about pipes 14:03 OldCoder Not simply minecraft or baconcraft 14:04 RealBadAngel lookin like puzzles or electric curcuits 14:04 RealBadAngel you had to make them work in given time 14:04 vicscandl RealBadAngel: nicely done... "you are placed at sixth position"... thanks for sharing. 14:05 * NekoGloop smacks #minetest 14:06 RealBadAngel if notch will ask bout the name with craft in it 14:06 RealBadAngel he can go to hell now ;) 14:06 RealBadAngel i was way before him lol 14:07 RealBadAngel 1993 i think 14:08 NekoGloop And infiminer is before minecraft and of notch thinks he has copyright issues he just needs to look at that ;) 14:08 NekoGloop If, not of 14:08 vicscandl MC, the apple of the voxelverse... 14:09 vicscandl funny thing tho, i've never played it outside of the free personal edition on my kindle 14:10 RealBadAngel found it at last 14:10 RealBadAngel http://www.ysrnry.co.uk/articles/samdyadic.htm 14:10 vicscandl but when you google "linux minecraft" .... 14:10 RealBadAngel those two games were released in a pack called Dyadic 14:11 RealBadAngel SnakeMania and Craft! 14:13 NekoGloop I'm gonna go now, bbl. 14:13 vicscandl RealBadAngel: a game called fish and chips above it, classic shit... 14:14 RealBadAngel i know it wasnt a miracle 14:14 vicscandl btw, its nice to know i'm not the only old fart in here 14:14 NekoGloop Atm i'm the only youngin 14:14 RealBadAngel in 1993 i was just 20 14:15 vicscandl RealBadAngel: aye, 19 for me 14:15 NekoGloop Bai 14:15 vicscandl NekoGloop: wave! 14:15 * NekoGloop waves goodbye 14:15 RealBadAngel i dont feel like fart tho ;) 14:16 vicscandl ok, old coder then... 14:16 RealBadAngel way better ;) 14:17 RealBadAngel i always say 14:17 RealBadAngel that can never calculated CPU cyclces to make loops run faster 14:17 OldCoder vicscandl, yes? 14:17 vicscandl ok, i gotta go add the fuel aspect of my mod in as i want to get this crap launched out today... 14:18 RealBadAngel dont know anything bout code 14:18 vicscandl OldCoder: not you, two words... :) 14:18 OldCoder O.K. 14:20 RealBadAngel if the programmers were paid for their work in such way... 14:20 RealBadAngel done? ok. make it two times faster 14:20 RealBadAngel we wouldnt need pentium 100 and gigaherzes 14:21 RealBadAngel take a look at first 8 bit games 14:21 RealBadAngel and the last ones 14:21 RealBadAngel hardware was the same 14:22 RealBadAngel only coders were evolving 14:22 vicscandl RealBadAngel: {{ how many times do you mutter "i remember when we had to shove all this into 64K of RAM" }} 14:23 RealBadAngel many times 14:23 vicscandl re-writing the page swap routines because they were to bulky... 14:24 RealBadAngel golden times 14:24 vicscandl one of these days i'll scan the picture of me feeding my old man's punchcards into a PDP-11 at cal tech 14:24 RealBadAngel i had a friend, from Torun, Central poland 14:25 RealBadAngel he had Timex 2048, clone of ZX Spectrum 14:25 RealBadAngel but had no monitor 14:25 vicscandl RealBadAngel: i heard thoes were quite a good box back then. 14:25 RealBadAngel once he borrowed a TV from some1 14:26 RealBadAngel run a program that could speak numbers 14:26 Calinou thank you for highlighting me 14:26 Calinou very interesting 14:26 RealBadAngel he run it 14:26 Calinou (cal, cali, calin, calino, calinou highlight me) 14:26 RealBadAngel and that program speaked 16kb of ROM for him 14:26 Calinou but when you google "linux minecraft" .... 14:26 RealBadAngel he wrote it all down 14:26 Calinou minceraft does work on linux *facepalm* 14:27 RealBadAngel and DISSASEBLED WHOLE ZX SPECTRUM's ROM 14:27 vicscandl RealBadAngel: wow, thats dedication. good times were had back then... just not the same.. 14:28 vicscandl RealBadAngel: i still have some of my hand written codebooks; memories.. 14:28 RealBadAngel imagine 16kb of code 14:29 RealBadAngel that was insane 14:29 RealBadAngel byte by byte, wrote down with pencil 14:29 RealBadAngel and dissasembled 14:30 RealBadAngel he was able to divide, multiply in hex 14:30 RealBadAngel like normal folks can do with decimal 14:32 RealBadAngel as far as i know, he is involved now 14:33 RealBadAngel in project for searchin new planets in other solar systems 14:33 RealBadAngel doin code for it 14:37 RealBadAngel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksander_Wolszczan he used to work with this guy 15:06 RealBadAngel any one knows good mod (amiga one) to ogg converter? 15:06 saschaheylik "good" ? 15:06 saschaheylik audacity might be able to 15:06 RealBadAngel i need to convert one protracker's mod 15:07 saschaheylik hm guess not 15:07 OldCoder RealBadAngel, hold on 15:07 RealBadAngel i found one java player able to play it 15:08 RealBadAngel winamp is not able 15:08 OldCoder xmp might work 15:09 NekoGloop Omg 15:10 RealBadAngel i just just this:http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Players/Java-Mod-Player.shtml 15:11 RealBadAngel this one can play protracer's mod but no convert options 15:13 RealBadAngel http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detail=modules&view=8826 15:13 RealBadAngel i want to convert that second one 15:13 RealBadAngel cover of Terra Titanic 15:14 NakedFury I use Switch sound file converter 15:14 vicscandl xmp will play it; bit of monkery and it can be recorded 15:15 RealBadAngel oo, got newer version of that player 15:15 RealBadAngel it has export to wave 15:15 RealBadAngel :) 15:16 OldCoder Try xmp 15:16 OldCoder Linux 15:16 OldCoder Hmm 15:16 * OldCoder wonders about ffmpeg 15:17 OldCoder Timidity converts MODs BTW 15:17 OldCoder Oh 15:17 OldCoder If you just need MODs use Timidity 15:17 RealBadAngel that player does it too 15:17 OldCoder Good 15:17 RealBadAngel got the wav already 15:17 RealBadAngel listened to it btw? 15:18 OldCoder Me? 15:18 * OldCoder looks up 15:18 RealBadAngel try 15:18 OldCoder Link again? 15:18 OldCoder Ah 15:18 OldCoder om 15:19 RealBadAngel its my old firends piece of work 15:19 OldCoder om 15:19 RealBadAngel same that made music for my games 15:19 OldCoder Andy 15:19 RealBadAngel AndySynthe 15:19 OldCoder Do you have a download link? 15:19 RealBadAngel a sec 15:19 RealBadAngel http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detail=modules&view=8826 15:20 OldCoder I am there 15:20 OldCoder Need the download link 15:20 OldCoder If it requires Flash I don't use it 15:20 OldCoder Ah 15:20 RealBadAngel players is in java 15:20 OldCoder Got it 15:20 OldCoder No; I have plenty of players 15:20 OldCoder Most of them 15:20 RealBadAngel ok 15:20 OldCoder Downloading 15:20 OldCoder Terra Titanic Acquire Initiated :-) 15:21 RealBadAngel my idea is to add this as background for menu 15:21 RealBadAngel ive already added world screenshot 15:21 RealBadAngel why not some music? 15:21 OldCoder Acquired and playing 15:22 OldCoder Six minute piece 15:22 * OldCoder listens 15:22 * RealBadAngel waits 15:22 OldCoder Good for my purposes. I could work to this. 15:23 OldCoder Nice 15:23 RealBadAngel i think it could fit 15:23 OldCoder Sure 15:23 RealBadAngel wait a sec 15:23 RealBadAngel will make screenshot 15:23 * saschaheylik looks it up 15:24 OldCoder If you need a Linux tool xmp does convert 15:24 OldCoder I have converted Terra Titanic 15:24 vicscandl oooooo nice.... 15:25 OldCoder RealBadAngel, will your friend place the music under Creative Commons or a similar license? 15:25 vicscandl 8-bit and voxelworld just so go together.... 15:25 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/menu.png 15:25 vicscandl 8-bit sound 15:26 OldCoder Sure again 15:26 RealBadAngel i will go visit him with a bottle of vodka 15:26 OldCoder Menu looks nice 15:26 OldCoder Ha 15:26 OldCoder CC-NC-SA 15:26 OldCoder ^ License for music 15:26 RealBadAngel license problems solved ;)\ 15:26 OldCoder He will retain rights 15:26 OldCoder He is simply granting right to share 15:26 RealBadAngel no problemo 15:26 OldCoder CC-NC-SA 3.0 Unported to be specific 15:27 vicscandl RealBadAngel: that server in the menu pic public? (usa based use) 15:27 OldCoder Do you need the MP3 ? 15:27 RealBadAngel i think he will be pleased to dig it up and let live again 15:27 RealBadAngel ogg 15:27 OldCoder Converting 15:27 RealBadAngel need ftp? 15:27 OldCoder From WAV of course 15:27 OldCoder Yes 15:27 OldCoder FTP 15:27 vicscandl RealBadAngel: let him know i'm a big fan... feeling like i'm 18 again and shit 15:27 RealBadAngel :) 15:28 RealBadAngel will bring him here 15:28 RealBadAngel so you will tell him that 15:28 vicscandl RealBadAngel: would be my pleasure. few appreciate good code-art 15:29 RealBadAngel i promise 15:29 OldCoder FTP? 15:29 OldCoder Or I could use SendSpace 15:30 vicscandl th congo part around 2f:31 (close to end) sounds very Goonies esque 15:30 NakedFury feels weird to have my email inbox empty 15:30 vicscandl did not catch what pattern it was rolling 15:31 * vicscandl is loving this Old-School-Saturday ircparty... 15:32 vicscandl RealBadAngel: is that an image in the bg of the menu, or is that pulling a generated image out of the live server? 15:33 vicscandl RealBadAngel: and correct me if i'm wrong, you are hacking on the C++ code too? 15:34 NakedFury for the menu no 15:34 NakedFury go to textures>base>pack 15:34 NakedFury change the menubg 15:35 NekoGloop Meow~ 15:35 vicscandl NakedFury: yea, i know that trick, i was *somehow* hoping it was generating; i'd be cool to pick a random spot and have it rotate around in the background of the menu 15:35 NekoGloop What? 15:35 NakedFury minecraft has that 15:35 saschaheylik vicscandl: agreed 15:35 NakedFury but its a sort of screenshot 15:35 NakedFury it moves round 15:35 vicscandl NakedFury: yea, it would be 15:35 NakedFury but I would definitely like that too 15:35 Keegan hello 15:35 NekoGloop Omg keegan 15:35 NakedFury hello 15:36 Keegan how r u 15:36 NekoGloop Die keegan >:D 15:36 * NekoGloop ki 15:36 vicscandl something like pick the player gen spot, pull a 360deg view and then just rotate it at a speed on the menu screen... 15:36 * NekoGloop kills keegan with an evil sword 15:36 Keegan Neko stop being me 15:36 RealBadAngel @viscandl:no 15:36 saschaheylik or a "snapshot" of a cool in-game moment 15:36 RealBadAngel no hacks at all 15:37 thexyz btw, Keegan, do you still need hacked minetest client? 15:37 NekoGloop Dont give it to him 15:37 RealBadAngel o lol 15:37 vicscandl thexyz: nice, have idea for your mod. 15:38 thexyz what mod? 15:38 Keegan thexyz yea but i think my friend is giving me one.. i am upposed to have it right now but he dont know how to give t to me 15:38 vicscandl thexyz: xdoors2 15:38 vicscandl thexyz: give me a bit, the kid is lookin for food.. 15:39 vicscandl Keegan: oh, you are back... lets see if you show up in the botnet now... 15:39 * vicscandl emits an evil laugh... 15:39 Keegan STOP BEING MEAN 15:39 * NekoGloop continues to kill keegan 15:39 saschaheylik wtf 15:40 vicscandl stop being so gullible 15:40 thexyz Keegan: that's great, just wanted to give you one 15:40 Keegan thexyz yea but he cant send me it through email 15:41 vicscandl ooo Keegan, you need to update that computer you are on... metasploit is about to turn you over... 15:42 * vicscandl is a bitch sometimes... 15:42 Keegan STOP IT IM SORY ABOUT YESTERDAY 15:42 vicscandl Keegan: dude, this is 100% messing with you... you are fine 15:42 saschaheylik dont use caps that way. just dont. 15:43 vicscandl {{ someone should show him how to ignore people on irc... i'm sure most ignore my sorry butt }} 15:43 OldCoder Hi 15:43 RealBadAngel ok 15:43 RealBadAngel do it 15:44 vicscandl i so lose at idlewars all the time.. : 15:44 vicscandl s/wars/RPG/ 15:45 OldCoder http://realbadangel.pl/oldcoder/music/Terra_Titanic_downmix.ogg 15:45 vicscandl http://idlerpg.net 15:45 OldCoder This is a downmix of Terra Titanic from Real Bad Angel's friend 15:46 NakedFury more games should use classic gaming music 15:46 saschaheylik like battlefield 15:46 NakedFury sometimes I miss the 8bit style of arcade games 15:47 vicscandl RealBadAngel: effing nice pipe -> 5,574,128 962K/s in 6.8s 15:47 RealBadAngel i suggested this to be main menu theme 15:47 saschaheylik this is nice 15:47 RealBadAngel do you ike the idea? 15:47 RealBadAngel *like 15:47 vicscandl RealBadAngel: +1 +1 15:48 saschaheylik yeah 15:48 vicscandl RealBadAngel: +6pack of your choice 15:48 RealBadAngel its a cover made by professional musican 15:49 RealBadAngel he wrote music for all my 8bit games 15:49 RealBadAngel so no worry bout licences 15:49 vicscandl is there a hook to play an ogg at the menu, or is this going to require a request? 15:49 RealBadAngel will play it without any hacks 15:50 vicscandl RealBadAngel: good to know. thanks 15:50 RealBadAngel same as i did with background 15:50 OldCoder Is NekoGloop gone? 15:50 NekoGloop Boo 15:50 OldCoder Thanks 15:50 OldCoder Hold on a moment 15:50 NekoGloop Why? 15:51 thexyz so, vicscandl, where's your idea? 15:51 OldCoder NekoGloop, Keegan is attempting to use /ignore 15:52 OldCoder NekoGloop, it is /ignore nick right? 15:52 vicscandl thexyz: sorry, what about top/bottom opening doors? 15:52 NekoGloop Yes 15:52 OldCoder Hmm 15:52 OldCoder No 15:52 OldCoder The channel says... 15:52 * OldCoder is reading Help 15:52 vicscandl OldCoder: funny, i thought it was "/part nick" 15:52 NekoGloop Maybe the chnnel doesnt support ignore 15:53 OldCoder No, it's there; hold on a moment 15:53 OldCoder I don't recognize the syntax 15:53 * OldCoder googles 15:53 thexyz vicscandl: what? you mean trapdoor? 15:53 vicscandl no, like double open doors, top and bottom 15:54 OldCoder 15:54 NekoGloop I like how in the vanilla game you can walk on doors 15:54 OldCoder /ignore NekoGloop!*@* 15:54 OldCoder Doesn't work 15:54 vicscandl top and bottom separate and can open separate 15:54 NakedFury xyz: you could also add a half door or bar door. 15:54 OldCoder /ignore NekoGloop!*@* ALL 15:54 OldCoder Ah 15:54 OldCoder Got it 15:54 vicscandl {{ fucking english language }} 15:54 OldCoder NekoGloop if it's O.K. would you speak to me? 15:55 NekoGloop Oldcoder HL 15:55 vicscandl NakedFury: thanks, half a door... 15:55 OldCoder Hmm 15:55 OldCoder NekoGloop, why doesn't this work: 15:55 OldCoder /ignore NekoGloop!*@* ALL 15:55 NekoGloop Magic 15:55 OldCoder No; I should learn this 15:55 NekoGloop Because your putting the symbols there 15:56 OldCoder /ignore NekoGloop ALL 15:56 vicscandl OldCoder: so much fun irc can be 15:56 OldCoder Speak now 15:56 OldCoder vicscandl, I used to know this 15:56 OldCoder NekoGloop, speak to me 15:56 NekoGloop You sent said /ignore not used it 15:56 OldCoder Hmm 15:56 OldCoder Ah 15:56 OldCoder Worked 15:56 OldCoder Speak now one last time 15:56 vicscandl OldCoder: its like riding a bike... comes back quick 15:56 NekoGloop Oldcoder 15:56 OldCoder Now how do I un-ignore him? 15:57 NekoGloop Log off 15:57 NekoGloop Tell him 15:57 vicscandl hahahahaa 15:57 OldCoder If I wish to hear the kitten again, what is the command for that? 15:57 OldCoder Hmm 15:57 vicscandl OldCoder: NekoGloop -> log off (not) 15:57 * NekoGloop pisses on oldcoder :3 15:57 OldCoder I'll figure it out later 15:58 OldCoder 15:58 OldCoder NekoGloop speak to Keegan please 16:00 OldCoder mrtux, Hello 16:01 mrtux hi 16:01 Keegan hey mrtux 16:01 OldCoder Can anybody tell me how to unignore the kitten? 16:01 OldCoder NekoGloop I'll restore you later 16:02 NakedFury no idea 16:02 * OldCoder shrugs 16:02 OldCoder I need to relearn all of this anyway 16:03 NekoGloop Someone tell me what oldcoder is saying? I'm too curious :3 16:03 OldCoder That may have worked 16:03 OldCoder NekoGloop speak to me 16:03 NakedFury he already talked 16:03 OldCoder I just tried an unignore command 16:03 NakedFury Someone tell me what oldcoder is saying? 16:03 OldCoder NakedFury, Keegan was upset 16:04 * NekoGloop kicks nakedfuy 16:04 OldCoder He has ignored NekoGloop. I wasn't sure of the command so I tested it myself. 16:04 NekoGloop My line! 16:04 OldCoder Which has the regrettable effect that I have cut off NekoGloop. 16:04 OldCoder Figuring out unignore now 16:04 NekoGloop Why didnt he do keegan...? 16:05 OldCoder Ah 16:08 Keegan whatca guys doing? 16:08 NakedFury listening to iron maiden and waiting to play planetside 2 16:08 NakedFury you? 16:09 Keegan playng minetest 16:09 NekoGloop I'm gonna go on my computer soon to play minetest. 3 16:09 NekoGloop :3* 16:09 PilzAdam hi 16:09 Keegan what server do you play on? 16:09 Keegan hi 16:10 PilzAdam news? 16:10 NakedFury hi 16:10 NekoGloop I'm usually on one that's currently down for an undefined amount of time. 16:10 Keegan what one? 16:10 NekoGloop Cant say 16:10 Keegan why 16:10 NakedFury play on marktraceur server 16:12 NekoGloop Ohai jamiewilk 16:12 NekoGloop JamieWill* 16:12 JamieWill Hi NekoGloop! 16:12 Keegan hey 16:12 NekoGloop :3 16:13 PilzAdam Hi JamieWill 16:14 Keegan hey PilzAdam when are you gonna finish your mod? 16:14 PilzAdam wich mod? 16:14 JamieWill Hi PzAd 16:14 PilzAdam the map? 16:14 Keegan electricity 16:15 NakedFury PilzAdam the man that brought us carts 16:15 JamieWill lol 16:15 NekoGloop And made good beds, too ;) 16:15 JamieWill mmmm.... sleep 16:15 PilzAdam and im working on maps 16:15 Keegan yea it didnt work 16:15 NakedFury ingame maps? 16:15 Keegan yes 16:16 NekoGloop But you cant get the recipe without gloopblocks to register 9 cotton to be craftable into wool ;) 16:21 vicscandl Keegan: you get your client up and running? 16:21 Keegan what client? 16:22 vicscandl Keegan: are you able to play now? 16:22 Keegan i been able to 16:22 vicscandl Keegan: ok, just checking. 16:23 Keegan why and what verson 16:23 vicscandl no reason, just trying to help ya instead of being my normal asshole. :) 16:26 Keegan i can only use 0.4.0 and 0.3.1 16:26 vicscandl my mom called and told me to be nice today... you win. ;) 16:26 * vicscandl laughs 16:26 JamieWill lol ;) 16:27 * NekoGloop evil laugh 16:27 saschaheylik NekoGloop: are you his mom? 16:27 NekoGloop No 16:27 vicscandl hahaha 16:27 saschaheylik xD 16:27 NekoGloop Hell. No. 16:27 JamieWill Luke, I am your father 16:28 NekoGloop Nooooooooooooo! 16:28 JamieWill *sorry so worth it tho! 16:28 saschaheylik so much negativity 16:28 RealBadAngel lol 16:28 * NekoGloop smacks jamiewilk around with a large fishbot 16:28 RealBadAngel are we gonna try alt+f4 again? 16:29 PilzAdam i have disabled alt+f4 in my os 16:29 JamieWill Is that why everyone left i like 2 seconds yesterday? 16:29 NekoGloop Yes 16:29 RealBadAngel ehehhehe 16:30 vicscandl its caturday, i should relax: http://imgur.com/uzr5R 16:30 JamieWill I just pinged a ip and got 2ms nice! 16:30 * vicscandl pinged your mom, and got slapped in 2ms. 16:30 saschaheylik im so jealous 16:31 JamieWill nice 16:31 vicscandl JamieWill: i get that kinda ping when i query my router too. :) 16:31 vicscandl damnit, i said i was going to be nice. 16:31 saschaheylik i get 4ms to my router 16:32 JamieWill no i get 0ms for my one its my friend he lives like 100m away lol 16:32 saschaheylik weird 16:32 JamieWill CAT 5 BIATCH 16:32 vicscandl traffic is not even leaving the netblock, heheeh 16:32 RealBadAngel look this: http://paczto.pl/pacz/1196 16:32 saschaheylik haha 16:32 JamieWill Ill be back in 15 mis away for McD's 16:32 saschaheylik thats a ghillie suit 16:33 saschaheylik for snow warfare 16:33 saschaheylik totally 16:33 thexyz another 9gag clone 16:33 saschaheylik ugh the thought of eating at "McD's" 16:34 * saschaheylik banana nom nom 16:34 PilzAdam I have a task for u all: "Why is this called #minetest when nobody talks about this game?" 16:34 saschaheylik because someone named it like that 16:35 NakedFury we talk about it 16:35 saschaheylik basically, saved the string "#minetest" 16:35 vicscandl balls deep in code and i come here to verbaly relax? 16:35 NakedFury but %5 of the time the conversation moves away 16:35 saschaheylik vicscandl: good argument bro 16:35 saschaheylik *thumbs up* 16:36 saschaheylik maybe we could make a fractal minetest 16:36 saschaheylik the character can shrink 16:36 saschaheylik and then dig into a cube 16:36 vicscandl ooooooo 16:36 saschaheylik in which there are cubes 16:36 saschaheylik in which there are more cubes 16:36 NakedFury hexagonal grid minetest 16:37 saschaheylik :D 16:37 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFfrQf53Xo&feature=related 16:37 RealBadAngel posted it before 16:37 RealBadAngel but again,some will take care of noteblocks to get them done? 16:38 NakedFury awesome song and sounds even more awesome like that 16:39 vicscandl RealBadAngel: so thinking mod reader + noteblocks would be interesting 16:39 RealBadAngel theres even music maker done for minecraft 16:40 vicscandl sooo could 4 track this kind of thing too 16:40 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fi4gvDXBX4 16:40 RealBadAngel 16 channel one 16:42 vicscandl and now i see why mesecons is being done 16:42 RealBadAngel exactly 16:42 vicscandl this is *exactly* what i want to show my dad can be done with this game 16:42 vicscandl RealBadAngel: big thanks mate 16:43 RealBadAngel there r no limits 16:43 RealBadAngel just our imagination 16:44 NakedFury there are some limits 16:44 MiJyn nd dere is da spellin limit RBA 16:44 RealBadAngel yes? 16:44 RealBadAngel check this out 16:44 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsgtG4W6_x8 16:45 RealBadAngel and after watchin it 16:45 RealBadAngel please repeat 16:45 NakedFury red power 16:45 RealBadAngel there are limits 16:45 NakedFury great mod 16:45 RealBadAngel go for it 16:45 RealBadAngel waiting 16:45 saschaheylik wait until we put it in scriptable microchips, proper electronics and mechanics 16:45 saschaheylik like in gmod 16:45 NakedFury you didnt say the game modded 16:45 saschaheylik and then think about limits again 16:46 vicscandl uh, holy shit 16:46 RealBadAngel waitin 16:46 NakedFury I still dont understand the deal with trying to make a computer on minecraft 16:46 saschaheylik and maybe we find a way to page the world over multiple servers to make it practically infinitely big 16:46 RealBadAngel where are the limits... 16:46 saschaheylik money for servers 16:47 saschaheylik the better we code the less server power we waste. time is money. cpu time. 16:47 RealBadAngel have heard something bout limits? 16:47 vicscandl RealBadAngel: fuck me sideways 16:48 NakedFury what exactly will that pc do in minecraft? 16:48 saschaheylik but in reality, since we are free to charge money for LGPL code the limit once again is our imagination when building the game 16:48 vicscandl the educational value of this is immense 16:48 saschaheylik of what? 16:48 saschaheylik me talking? 16:48 saschaheylik thanks 16:48 RealBadAngel such thing was never seen in games before 16:48 saschaheylik ikr 16:49 RealBadAngel thats why its so great 16:49 saschaheylik thats why i hate notch 16:49 vicscandl you can build and walk thru a "large" representation and see the shit work 16:49 RealBadAngel suggest you start watchin last video again with 4;08 16:49 saschaheylik true we could emulate real electronics 16:49 saschaheylik maybe sell minetest to schools 16:49 vicscandl this is gibson cyberspace/stephensons metaverse.... 0.2 16:49 saschaheylik haha 16:50 NekoGloop Someone made pong on minecraft. :P 16:50 saschaheylik know what i wish for 2012? 16:50 * vicscandl paused at 3:00 16:50 vicscandl saschaheylik: more pussy? 16:50 saschaheylik that too. 16:50 RealBadAngel move it forward 16:50 vicscandl (or penis if you prefer) 16:50 RealBadAngel 4:08 16:50 RealBadAngel sit and cry 16:50 saschaheylik to make a living coding minetest 16:50 vicscandl naw,w atching whole vid 16:50 saschaheylik and show notch how its done 16:51 NakedFury the only thing I dont like is all the space it takes to build that 16:51 NakedFury I have seen bigger stuff 16:51 saschaheylik space? 16:51 NakedFury game space 16:51 RealBadAngel but with such effect? 16:51 saschaheylik yeah we need like splittable blocks 16:51 NakedFury would not work well in multiplayer 16:52 RealBadAngel jamie: link for ya:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsgtG4W6_x8 16:52 RealBadAngel join 16:52 saschaheylik NakedFury: why not? 16:52 NakedFury you would need like 10 km of space for secret bases 16:52 saschaheylik if only splitted blocks are splitted, why not? 16:52 NakedFury griefing problems 16:52 NekoGloop Lolwat 16:52 NakedFury what do you mean splitted blocks? 16:52 saschaheylik imagine a cube 16:53 saschaheylik now a horizontal line through its middle 16:53 RealBadAngel redpower2 does it 16:53 saschaheylik now a vertical one 16:53 saschaheylik and another one 16:53 saschaheylik actually 16:53 RealBadAngel a saw to cut block to slabs 16:53 NakedFury ohh that, yes I would like that very much in mintest 16:53 NekoGloop Just use the telegate mod and make locked gates to -30000. Boom, secret bast right in the open. 16:53 saschaheylik youve got 8 cubes 16:53 saschaheylik out of one 16:53 RealBadAngel slabs to panels 16:53 RealBadAngel panels to covers 16:53 RealBadAngel 1/2/2/2 16:53 RealBadAngel of the size 16:53 saschaheylik that we you could zoom in like a fractal to make things more detailed 16:54 NakedFury isntead of needing 1x1 tunnels for mesecon we use that 16:54 NakedFury instead* 16:54 vicscandl RealBadAngel: love how he shows you his hand coding too 16:54 saschaheylik also if multiple regular cubes are together, they could be merged into one cube which would save a lot of memory 16:54 NekoGloop But currently minetest does not support multiple nodes in the same spot 16:55 saschaheylik currently that is because it is a goal not reached yet 16:55 NekoGloop Mesecons could not be placed in the same spot as these node-peices 16:57 NakedFury if that was added it would be amazing 16:57 NakedFury as mazing as having an actual chat window not the stuff we have now 16:58 RealBadAngel ok, here we go with another one i do like: 16:58 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaLmWE_ZE7s&feature=BFa&list=UUgOqZ0-tr6Y27lWprxww5sg 16:58 NakedFury now that I like 16:59 NakedFury real in game use 16:59 NekoGloop Lol creeper makeup tutorial in related vids 17:01 RealBadAngel and wonder what will you say bout this: 17:01 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaLmWE_ZE7s&feature=BFa&list=UUgOqZ0-tr6Y27lWprxww5sg 17:01 RealBadAngel this actually is mind blowing 17:01 NakedFury im watching that one right now 17:01 JamieWill Is there a creeper mod? 17:02 RealBadAngel it adds working 6502 system to the game 17:02 NakedFury have you seen one called bat cave? all vanilla I think 17:02 RealBadAngel which you can code 17:02 RealBadAngel in assembler or provided Forth compiler 17:02 Keegan hey can someone help me with a hack client it wont connect to a server? 17:03 JamieWill i3-2120 3.3GHz 4GB 1 × 1000GB SATA3 6Gbps 12TB For 121 Euros? Is that any good? 17:03 RealBadAngel wanna sell? 17:03 JamieWill No buying 17:03 RealBadAngel take it 17:03 NekoGloop Wat 17:03 JamieWill worth it? 17:04 RealBadAngel sure 17:04 JamieWill for 20 more euros i can get 30TB 17:04 JamieWill and *GB 17:04 JamieWill 8GB 17:04 RealBadAngel 120 eu you can earn a day 17:04 RealBadAngel such server for a day of work? 17:05 JamieWill College is all fees and stuff? 17:05 NekoGloop yup 17:05 NekoGloop all fees. 17:05 NekoGloop you have to pay for knowledge ;) 17:06 vicscandl RealBadAngel: love the drill 17:06 JamieWill Nah you dont 17:06 JamieWill Oh wait yes you do! 17:07 NekoGloop Now pay up, you learned something. 17:11 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Done yet? 17:12 NekoGloop VanessaE: Gonna need those links again, ipad is being derp with file transfer. 17:14 Calinou lol Keegan 17:15 NekoGloop what did keegan do? 17:15 NekoGloop and why cant I see him, assuming it's recent 17:16 NekoGloop LOL that command is NOT unignore 17:19 vicscandl RealBadAngel: thanks for the vids 17:20 RealBadAngel no problemo 17:20 RealBadAngel enjoyed? 17:21 vicscandl 110% 17:21 OldCoder NekoGloop you should be unignored now. 17:21 * NekoGloop kicks oldcoder 17:22 * OldCoder tosses a kitty treat at NekoGloop 17:22 * NekoGloop eats it 17:22 * OldCoder cautious pats the cat 17:22 * NekoGloop hisses 17:23 * OldCoder laughs 17:23 * NekoGloop scratches up oldcoder's face with his claws 17:24 RealBadAngel brb 17:24 * OldCoder absented mindly applies Bactine 17:25 * NekoGloop jabs his claws into OldCoder's stomach 17:26 * OldCoder ignores the cat temporarily as he is busy with business 17:26 * NekoGloop is now relieved 17:26 * OldCoder leaves out a bowl of cat food; the tasty kind 17:27 * NekoGloop picks it up and shoves it into oldcoder's face 17:27 vicscandl VanessaE: thanks again for seaweed, getting to making it fuel for my mod 17:29 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M&feature=related ding dong... 17:35 applenerd11 i tried joining the minetest server, but it keeps timing out. 17:36 PilzAdam wich server? 17:36 applenerd11 wait. got it 17:37 applenerd11 it was the c55 dev server. i got on 17:37 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-sH53vXP2A 17:38 applenerd11 wow 17:38 NekoGloop isnt his server down? O.o 17:38 PilzAdam NekoGloop, yes it should be down 17:43 Keegan anyone know how to use a hack client? 17:43 NekoGloop nope 17:44 Keegan someone remade one for me 17:44 NekoGloop well you arent supposed to use it 17:44 Keegan it dont connects to any servers 17:45 vicscandl Keegan: the server you are trying to connect with may be set to reject your client 17:45 Keegan why 17:45 NakedFury why do you want to cheat so badly? 17:46 vicscandl Keegan: because hack clients are for pussies 17:46 vicscandl play the damed game, don't disrupt it. 17:46 Calinou lol 17:47 Calinou or hack yourself :P 17:47 PilzAdam Calinou, you will like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PJv11Cff5Y&feature=related 17:47 Calinou no u 17:51 JamieWill Yeah! 17:51 JamieWill I am on here all the time now 17:51 PilzAdam JamieWill, your happy when Calinou leaves? 17:52 JamieWill Shiz He left lolz I was just doing a random Yeah! to let you know I was here mdr! 17:52 NekoGloop AAAAAAH 17:52 NekoGloop THUYNDER! 17:53 cy1 servers try to reject hack clients... 17:53 NekoGloop and usually succeed :P 17:53 JamieWill Well Not m one anyway! 17:54 vicscandl network gaming 101 17:54 NakedFury cy1! long time since I see you here 17:54 cy1 usually it's just a pain for all the players :( 17:54 cy1 antihax are well and good but 17:54 cy1 when the server undigs my blocks just b/c it's lagging 17:54 cy1 I'm like fffffffffffff 17:54 cy1 glomieeeeeeeee 17:54 cy1 NakedFury: y hlo thar 17:54 JamieWill Irish! mdr 17:55 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M&feature=related Ding dong... 17:55 JamieWill bt yyyyee! 17:55 cy1 my antihax strategy is to identify players who may be speedhacking, but not backport them, and to provide robust tools for restoring demolished stuff 17:55 cy1 haven't worked on it much though 17:56 cy1 need playerstats.sqlite 17:56 cy1 gtg 17:56 JamieWill my hacked client works and ill send you the link keegen i put it up! 17:57 OldCoder Keegan has left, JamieWill 17:57 JamieWill Balls! 17:57 OldCoder Is it important? 17:57 NekoGloop Cubes! 17:57 vicscandl Voxel! 17:57 OldCoder Polyhedra! 17:57 OldCoder Of different shapes and sizes! 17:57 OldCoder :P 17:57 JamieWill I dont hve one its just to make him think he is geting a hacked client its just the normal tho lol 17:58 OldCoder JamieWill, why not make him a toy? 17:58 OldCoder I have considered doing it but can only compile for Linux 17:58 OldCoder Perhaps he can press a button and his copy of the sky will change colors 17:58 NekoGloop Give him a hacked client but make it give him less abilities. HARD MODE. 17:58 OldCoder Hmm 17:58 OldCoder Not a bad idea 17:58 OldCoder Maybe with training instructions 17:59 NekoGloop no, just HARD MODE 17:59 OldCoder Oh, that'll boost his confidence 17:59 OldCoder Folks... 17:59 NakedFury honest hacked client 17:59 OldCoder He can't solve the "Are You Human" puzzles. 17:59 OldCoder So he feels a bit odd 17:59 * OldCoder shrugs 17:59 OldCoder Excuse me 17:59 NakedFury fly=this user is flying. this user is speedhacking, this user is xraying, etc 17:59 NekoGloop He cant solve the "Are You Stupid" puzzles :P 18:00 JamieWill I dont have one just to annoy keegen 18:00 OldCoder NekoGloop he is what, 75% of your age, and disabled 18:00 NekoGloop lol I'm not that young 18:00 NekoGloop old* 18:00 NekoGloop 75% of my age is like 8 :P 18:00 OldCoder NekoGloop: That seems unlikely 18:00 * OldCoder shrugs again 18:00 OldCoder Excuse me 18:01 OldCoder I mostly felt like making the polyhedra joke 18:01 OldCoder But he does have trouble with the basics 18:01 OldCoder and he isn't trolling intentionally 18:01 OldCoder Unlike a cat who sometimes comes close to it 18:01 OldCoder BTW 18:01 OldCoder If my own situation elsewhere improves 18:01 OldCoder Let me know what you need for the server or client 18:02 OldCoder I've sort of been doing this kind of thing 18:02 OldCoder since before some of your parents were born 18:02 OldCoder 18:02 JamieWill he kinda is cuz he has been warned but he keeps doing it thats why we told him to use the #minetest-morons 18:02 * OldCoder laughs 18:02 OldCoder Yes, *that's* going to help too 18:02 NekoGloop use #minetest-banme 18:02 OldCoder He wants to be part of the group 18:02 OldCoder I think the hacked client... 18:02 OldCoder Hmm 18:02 JamieWill is it a channel? 18:02 OldCoder It is now 18:03 JamieWill lol 18:03 NekoGloop Well if he clicks it he'll host the channel himself in some clients 18:03 JamieWill #mintest-banme 18:03 OldCoder I could do this: 18:03 OldCoder ##keegan 18:03 OldCoder Give him his own channel 18:03 OldCoder Make him op 18:03 OldCoder Then he'd need to learn to be polite 18:03 OldCoder To acquire visitors 18:04 JamieWill Click on it! 18:05 JamieWill lol 18:05 JamieWill #minetest-banme 18:06 OldCoder Ha 18:06 OldCoder People are actually visiting 18:06 JamieWill just had to! 18:07 OldCoder There is a ##jamiewill too now of course 18:07 OldCoder It is only fair 18:07 OldCoder :-) 18:07 NekoGloop xD 18:07 JamieWill lol 18:07 NekoGloop what quit message did it send? 18:07 JamieWill and a ##youtube one 18:08 NekoGloop OMG JEIJA 18:08 NekoGloop NOW RBA WILL LET ME TALK ABOUT MESECONS :D 18:10 Jeija Hi everyone! 18:10 OldCoder Jeija, hello 18:11 NekoGloop I should add some of my microcontroller code to sfan5's listing 18:11 sfan5 yes, do that 18:11 NekoGloop could you please link it? 18:11 NekoGloop I'm lazy :3 18:11 Jeija http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/ycpaste/ 18:11 NekoGloop thankies :3 18:11 JamieWill any one got a gd server? 18:11 NekoGloop now to go grab the code :P 18:12 sfan5 JamieWill: gd? 18:19 RealBadAngel any1 know a way to execute some code with just on main menu screen? 18:19 NekoGloop ask Jeija :P 18:21 RealBadAngel @Jeija: do you? 18:23 T_A_N_K jeija is a robot 18:23 T_A_N_K bent on the destruction of the human race 18:23 PilzAdam A german robot 18:24 * Jeija_the_robot destroying the world 18:24 NekoGloop >LMAO 18:24 * sdzen destroys it first 18:24 T_A_N_K >this doesn't work on irc networks 18:24 * PilzAdam whispers: "it listen to us" 18:24 NekoGloop I didnt try to put it there 18:26 sdzen no the lighter fluid infused zombies did 18:26 T_A_N_K sdzen i do not pm anymore lol 18:26 sdzen too bad :P 18:27 sfan5 Jeija_the_robot: exec("assembler", "hlt") 18:27 Jeija omg what has just happenend to me 18:30 T_A_N_K when i read that i heard this voice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFp7Fr_mu2g&feature=plcp 18:31 NekoGloop I hear this voice right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pikzimcmB10&feature=related 18:32 NekoGloop Lots of voices ;) 18:32 * vicscandl joins Jeija's new robot cause, because. 18:34 PilzAdam you ever played Minetest like this: http://www.zimg.eu/i/990921295 ? 18:35 sdzen usually i have more clutter 18:35 NekoGloop Yes, actually 18:35 NekoGloop Once, when my mod was being exceptionally stupid 18:36 NekoGloop VanessaE: Your wires are not craftable. WHY?! 18:36 NakedFury Pilz I would have minetest in 1 window, xchat in another with notepad++/geany on top of it 18:37 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pikzimcmB10&feature=related WHAT IF CONGRESS GOT MEDALS?! 18:52 NekoGloop LOL 18:53 NekoGloop I shrunk minetest down a bit so I could see other stuff, now the inventory looks funny in creative xD 18:56 NekoGloop Ohai cornernote 19:10 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3DojpEXPM ranbara... ranbara... ranbara... :3 19:11 JamieWill Yo Guys 19:12 PilzAdam Yo Yo Yo 19:12 NekoGloop yoyogames 19:12 T_A_N_K yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiio 19:12 JamieWill UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN 19:13 NekoGloop UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT B A START!!!! 19:13 PilzAdam while(true) print('Yo') 19:13 JamieWill up down like a yoyo 19:13 NekoGloop I just accidentaly whois'd myself xD 19:14 JamieWill while(1) print("Yo") 19:14 jin_xi yes yo 19:14 PilzAdam oh no please not C 19:14 PilzAdam its while(true) and not while(1) 19:14 NekoGloop Oh please yes C 19:15 vicscandl PilzAdam: uh, its both 19:15 NekoGloop ikr 19:15 vicscandl true in most compilers is a define to 1. :) 19:15 NekoGloop 1 is faster to write too 19:15 JamieWill Thank you Vic 19:15 JamieWill Oh burned ! 19:15 * NekoGloop sticks JamieWill with a cattle prod 19:16 JamieWill lol 19:16 JamieWill mdr 19:16 NekoGloop that's a burn 19:18 vicscandl just remember, 1 + 1 = 10. solid fact. 19:18 NekoGloop no, it's equal to 11 19:19 vicscandl NekoGloop: no, the amp's go to 11, 1 + 1 = 10. 19:19 saschaheylik_ "it" is? 19:19 sfan5 this is sense: 19:19 sfan5 Cleverbot: What do you want to be? 19:19 sfan5 User: A bee. 19:19 sfan5 Cleverbot: No, your grandpa will have a son with me. 19:19 sdzen that is sense 19:19 sdzen doesnt the level of cleverbots humanity go down each day? 19:20 sdzen or whatever percentage they like to use 19:20 vicscandl cleverbot not so clever. unless it read it without the space 'abee' being a girls name and cleverbot is a pervert. 19:20 NekoGloop Well "humanity" is a undefinite term 19:20 sdzen true 19:21 sdzen except when the walls are blue 19:21 vicscandl that being said, cleverbot:humanity++ 19:21 NekoGloop Well in my house... the walls ARE blue... O.o 19:21 T_A_N_K cc fttp royalty free music relaxing amazing awesome dramatic 19:21 vicscandl playing the perverted grandpa.... nice... 19:22 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3DojpEXPM Ranbara... Ranbara... Ranbara... 19:23 NekoGloop Minetest: Node not diggable 19:23 NekoGloop Me: FUCK YOU 19:23 NekoGloop Minetest: *crashes* 19:24 RealBadAngel game did the same to you ;) 19:25 NekoGloop VanessaE's mesecons need to be craftable and need to craft INTO other items 19:25 NekoGloop I'm gonna make a little piece of code that makes that possible ;) 19:26 NekoGloop Jeija: Since you update mesecons so frequently, allow VanessaE's mesecons to replce the default ones 19:27 Jeija Actually they are not VanessaE's mesecons, I coded them for 95% 19:27 Jeija I will, I will 19:27 NekoGloop fine whatever just do it :P 19:27 Jeija First of all I will make it optional and then turn them on by default 19:27 NekoGloop alias them in or something 19:28 Jeija aliasing is not really possible :( 19:28 NekoGloop no, i just want them to be both obtainable and other things to be crafted into them 19:28 Jeija It would look strange 19:28 Jeija I can make an abm that replaces the old ones by the new ones if you approach them 19:28 NekoGloop hell no 19:28 NekoGloop think of the lag that does 19:28 NekoGloop I mean just for crafting 19:28 Jeija It will, it will, but just for one time 19:29 NekoGloop let the old ones be in the system still 19:29 NakedFury replace them jeija, thats nice of you 19:29 NekoGloop but let the new ones be craftable and craft into other things 19:29 NakedFury one time lag for all that manual work? 19:29 NakedFury yes 19:29 Jeija I don't think it will lag too much 19:30 Jeija Once it is replaced, the abm will never be called again 19:30 NekoGloop and as for crafting recipes? 19:30 Jeija aliasing 19:30 NekoGloop to allow both the new and old to be used? 19:30 Jeija hmm.. or even better make it use groups 19:31 NekoGloop ok 19:31 NekoGloop {wire=1} 19:31 Jeija no: mesecon_conductor_craftable=1 19:31 Jeija To allow other conductors to be craftable, too 19:31 NekoGloop ok fine whatever just do it >.> 19:38 JamieWill Have a look at this https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4477686859694&set=a.2592520331709.2150828.1215668105&type=1&theater 19:38 NekoGloop pass 19:39 JamieWill lol its a football team from my country got put down for top division to divs 3 so funny ! but they were second biggest team in the country thank god i didnt support them! 19:39 NekoGloop Kewl :P 19:44 vicscand1 hrm 19:46 jin_xi sup 19:46 NekoGloop ceiling 19:46 NekoGloop waiting for mesecons update 19:47 Jeija that will take at least one more hour 19:47 jin_xi f5 harder 19:47 NekoGloop My MESEcons paradise is creative mode anyway :P 19:47 JamieWill can i join? 19:48 NekoGloop singleplayer 19:48 JamieWill oh :( 19:48 JamieWill yes 19:48 JamieWill lol 20:05 NekoGloop unactive channel much? 20:06 OldCoder The tides of IRC 20:06 OldCoder NekoGloop, they come in and go out 20:08 NekoGloop kewl 20:08 * NekoGloop gets the IRC moon to come into postion 20:11 NekoGloop "Taoki has changed nick to something" Orly? What is it? 20:11 Taoki NekoGloop: I was testing a feature somewhere, no biggie :P 20:12 NekoGloop It's a joke. Laugh. 20:18 MiJyn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvaIUMWUWA&feature=relmfu 20:20 NekoGloop http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/ycpaste/index.php?61e 20:20 NekoGloop Useful or not? 20:24 sfan5 NekoGloop: useful 20:25 NekoGloop I figured a splitter could be useful ;) 20:25 sfan5 yes, its useful 20:25 sfan5 bb 20:41 * VanessaE wanders in 20:41 VanessaE BOO! 20:41 NekoGloop VanessaE 20:41 NekoGloop Hi 20:41 MuadTralk RAOR! 20:41 vicscandl eek! 20:42 VanessaE meow? 20:42 NekoGloop Meow :3 20:43 NekoGloop Jeija, how are the aliases coming? :3 20:47 Jeija No aliases, you will at least loose the mesecons in your inventory 20:48 NekoGloop ok fine 20:48 NekoGloop whatever :P 20:49 hmmmm heeeello there 20:49 Jeija but map update works 20:49 NekoGloop i honestly dont care 20:49 hmmmm i'm finally back 20:49 NekoGloop No, place the mesecons then let map update take care of the rest. 20:49 hmmmm I tried out the 4.2-RC1, and it seems pretty tight 20:49 hmmmm was the permanent shadows problem fixed? 20:49 NekoGloop nope 20:49 hmmmm also the grid indentation in the y direction was fixed i noticed 20:50 hmmmm by permanent shadows problem, i mean the permanent shadows caused by the mapgen, not what happens when you remove blocks 20:50 NekoGloop i know 20:50 hmmmm so that wasn't fixed yet 20:50 hmmmm hmm 20:50 NekoGloop its not fixed 20:50 hmmmm alright, well if i see it i'll add that back to the list of things to do 20:51 hmmmm and of course there still aren't rivers 20:51 hmmmm the biome problem seems to be fixed 20:51 VanessaE permanent shadows are caused by stuff being generated way up high in the air 20:51 VanessaE like 1000+ 20:51 hmmmm were any new biomes added since desert? 20:51 hmmmm ahh 20:51 hmmmm are you sure 1000+? 20:52 VanessaE so I've heard yeah 20:52 VanessaE thexyz said he saw some stuff at like Y+7000 or so 20:52 hmmmm because for a time i was able to fly and make a humungous box around the area and i set the blocks to air with worldedit and that fixed it 20:52 hmmmm most of the time 20:52 NekoGloop Well, I'm making a mesecons paradise 20:52 hmmmm alright, so that's a miscalculation somewhere. it'll probably be a good idea to log where blocks are being placed if outside of a certain sanity range 20:53 NekoGloop AND gate, Switcher, and Triple input AND gate are finished 20:53 hmmmm and which subroutine was responsible for that, and the parameters, etc 20:53 VanessaE NekoGloop: mesecons microntroller. :-) 20:53 NekoGloop I know 20:53 NekoGloop That's what I'm using ;) 20:53 VanessaE oh ok 20:53 NekoGloop http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/ycpaste/index.php?61e for switcher code 20:55 hmmmm does anybody know if the generation queue stalling problem was fixed? 20:55 hmmmm it seems like it was, but i can't be too sure 20:55 hmmmm alright, and a new queue with all hash filenames... great 20:56 hmmmm s/queue/cache/ 20:56 hmmmm are those cached items sounds? 20:56 NekoGloop Can someone point me to the mod that makes cobble/iron_ore generate when lava hits water? 20:56 Jeija ok I added an alias for the new mesecons 20:56 hmmmm or they're anything actually 20:56 NekoGloop link, Jeija? 20:57 Jeija I will push it in like 2 minutes, be patient 20:57 hmmmm hey guys, what's the point of the cache exactly? 20:58 NekoGloop PATIENCE?! WTH IS THAT? 20:58 hmmmm the textures and sounds aren't uncompressed anyway 21:00 Jeija minetest.register_alias("mesecons:delayer", "mesecons_delayer:delayer_off_1") there you go, NekoGloop 21:00 Jeija wut? 21:00 NekoGloop uhm... 21:00 Jeija https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons there you go NekoGloop 21:00 NekoGloop what good is that? 21:00 hmmmm where would i ask about engine questions? this channel seems like it's more or less for the LUA modding api 21:01 VanessaE #minetest-dev 21:01 hmmmm alright thanks 21:01 VanessaE but only if you are serious about the core - routine questions belong elsewhere 21:01 VanessaE (e.g. here, or the forums, etc) 21:01 NekoGloop Jeija, was the piston glitch fixed? 21:02 Jeija yep https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/commit/9d52049e8314c56ab9cca0f40c796e9007080daf 21:02 NekoGloop k thanks 21:03 NekoGloop does it package in the new wires? 21:05 Jeija the new wires have to be activated manually by setting NEW_STYLE_WIRES = true in mesecons/settings.lua 21:06 NekoGloop lol minetest crashed 21:07 NekoGloop LOL i deleted the textures... >.> 21:09 NekoGloop placed wires are registered as unknown blocks 21:09 NekoGloop simple fix, I should think 21:10 Keegan hello 21:14 vicscandl ' 21:15 NekoGloop Where's the backwards compatiblilty? 21:15 NekoGloop I see nonew 21:15 NekoGloop none* 21:15 MiJyn NONE 21:15 NekoGloop never mind found it 21:19 NekoGloop You need to add all of the wires as mesecon aliases 21:20 Jeija no there is an ABM that makes the backwards compatibility for the map, NekoGloop 21:20 NekoGloop well it isnt working 21:20 Jeija it is for me 21:21 Jeija are new style wires activated? 21:21 Jeija so are there unknown blocks? 21:21 NekoGloop yes, unknown blocks are where my beutiful wires were 21:22 NekoGloop yes, I activated them 21:22 NekoGloop I'm just modding the code a bit 21:22 Keegan hello 21:23 Jeija the mesecon wires or the wire: wires (there is no compat. with the wire: mod) 21:24 NekoGloop ... So regenerate the map, lose everything I've done, and you'll shut up? 21:26 MuadTralk admin remove stick! 21:26 MuadTralk get rid of the unknown and replace with wires! 21:26 VanessaE NekoGloop: turn on new wires, then let the mod replace the old ones automatically? 21:26 NekoGloop ... I already deleted that map 21:26 NekoGloop Y'know, since the person who made it didnt make backwards compatibility 21:27 Jeija There is backwards compatibility, and even if it does not work you can at least reset the mesecons mod to use the old wires again. 21:28 NekoGloop You made them use "mesecons:wire_" instead of "wires:wire_" 21:28 NekoGloop So, no, it's not gonna work 21:29 Jeija minetest.register_node("mesecons:wire_"..nodeid.."_off", { --> works 21:29 NekoGloop Too. Late. 21:29 Jeija I didn't change anything, it was like that before 21:35 NakedFury dammit hate when games crash 21:37 MuadTralk Games: dammit I hate not crashing! 21:40 NekoGloop Minetest: FUCK YOU IMA CRASH ANYWAY 21:40 VanessaE AH that's the problem 21:41 VanessaE NekoGloop: I told ya it wasn't finished yet :-) 21:46 hmmmm ah, it turns out the trenches problem was fixed by darkrose 21:46 hmmmm kudos to him 21:46 VanessaE her. 21:47 hmmmm her? 21:47 vicscandl hmmmm: have a forum post about the "trenches problem"? 21:47 VanessaE her. 21:47 hmmmm ah 21:47 hmmmm well the trench problem was quite visible 21:47 vicscandl i'm a bit new to MT, 4.0 only 21:47 vicscandl :( 21:47 hmmmm that was the first thing i was looking for until i removed the mud flow and i noticed that the map wasn't being generated when i came up to an edge at all 21:48 hmmmm that is the map generation queue problem which i need to check for 21:48 hmmmm that's priority numero uno right now 21:48 hmmmm the river thing is purely an addition, not that important, and could probably be implemented in the lua api anyway. 21:49 vicscandl ahhh ok; moot point it being fixed and all. :) 21:49 vicscandl but thanks for the info 21:49 hmmmm huh? the mapgen-not-running thing WAS fixed? 21:50 vicscandl no 21:50 vicscandl er, no idea 21:50 hmmmm well anyway that's the first thing i'm going to look for 21:50 vicscandl (not involved, was going on your statement that trenches problem, not river, sorry. ignore me, i'm silly sometimes) 21:50 hmmmm can someone tell me about the farmesh thingie? how do I use it as an end user, and how does it work? 21:51 * vicscandl meanders towards the corner. 21:53 hmmmm well nevermind that 21:54 hmmmm alright, you see, the problem is that when i go to create a new world, i get dropped in immediately and the mapgen instantly starts going. this is not desirable because i wouldn't know where to explore first 21:55 hmmmm I wanted to make a delay between when a world is created and you start playing, so that the map can generate a sizable area around you (how much is user-specified via the configuration, of course.) 21:56 hmmmm the pregeneration is problem/feature #2. #3 is the addition of rivers since that's kind of easy and doesn't need to be done by the engine. 21:57 vicscandl hmmmm: i understand; not familiar with all of the innards here in MT world. still cutting teeth on a somewhat crazy mod, yet unreleased. 21:58 vicscandl rivers would be nice 22:00 hmmmm oh yes, #4 is to improve the worldedit copy/paste mechanism by a lot 22:00 hmmmm I want to take that part out of lua 22:01 hmmmm you see, minetest gets a lot of fixes, some good, some bad, and oftentimes it'd be really nice to move to a new map, but i have a lot of structures and what not that need to be moved - worldedit completely chokes to death on this, and the problem here lies entirely with the inefficient abstraction. 22:06 NekoGloop lag much, minetest? 22:08 mrtux this isn't minetest related but how do i ignore someone in irc 22:09 JamieWill lol 22:09 NekoGloop ... /ignore 22:09 mrtux ok lol 22:09 JamieWill how do u listen to someone? 22:10 JamieWill mrtux? 22:10 mrtux yes 22:11 mrtux i'm not ignoring anyone here 22:11 JamieWill hi 22:11 JamieWill i kinda spilt lava? 22:12 JamieWill and my house was no more! 22:12 mrtux ah ok... 22:13 NekoGloop OMG SMUGLEAF 22:13 SmugLeaf OMG NEKO 22:13 NekoGloop Snivy reference? 22:13 SmugLeaf Maybe 22:13 NekoGloop That means yes ;) 22:15 NekoGloop Why cant I get player detectors? O.o 22:15 VanessaE you need steel blocks 22:15 VanessaE but give me a bit, I have to fix that 22:15 NekoGloop Never mind 22:15 VanessaE there's lots of stuff to fix yet, 22:15 NekoGloop No, I couldnt find them in the creative inventory. 22:16 VanessaE they're object detectors :-) 22:16 VanessaE not player detectors 22:17 NekoGloop no, they're player detectors 22:17 VanessaE minetest.register_node("mesecons_detector:object_detector_on", { 22:17 NekoGloop Now how does one make them be inverted? What combination of mesecon torches and player detectors do I need? 22:17 VanessaE decription = "Player Detector" though 22:17 VanessaE do this: 22:18 VanessaE [Detector][glass][torch][mese wire] 22:18 VanessaE where the torch points straight out from the glass 22:18 VanessaE (parallel to the ground) 22:18 NekoGloop So having the torch be on the detector doesnt work? 22:18 VanessaE no 22:18 NekoGloop ok 22:18 VanessaE you have to have something between the power source and the torch 22:18 VanessaE not sure why that's necessary 22:19 NekoGloop Having an auto-opening door 22:19 VanessaE I meant why there has to be an intervening block :-) 22:19 NekoGloop needed an inverted player detector, since pressure plates are broken as hell 22:19 VanessaE hahahaha' 22:19 VanessaE minetest.register_node("mesecons_delayer:delayer_on_"..tostring(i), { 22:19 VanessaE description = "You hacker you", 22:20 NekoGloop lol 22:20 NekoGloop sdzen has an air item with description = "Air (You hacker you)" 22:20 NekoGloop on his server 22:20 VanessaE hehe 22:21 NekoGloop He gives it to people when they say they dont want anything 22:22 NekoGloop Solar Panels and Lava... y u no work together? 22:22 VanessaE not enough light from the lava probably 22:23 jin_xi notice how lava only glows in the dark 22:23 NekoGloop There's a hidden easter egg in gloopores ;) 22:24 * VanessaE goes back to hacking on mesecons 22:24 * VanessaE ... . o O ( hm.. don't forget to break torches and player detector. ) 22:25 NekoGloop why? 22:26 VanessaE just to fuck up your circuits ;-) 22:26 VanessaE I am of course kidding :-) 22:26 NekoGloop ok 22:26 NekoGloop i figured you might be pulling what jeija did with the wires 22:27 VanessaE I told ya the wires weren't finished yet 22:27 VanessaE :-) 22:27 VanessaE but noooo you were all "gimme gimme gimme!!" :-) 22:28 NekoGloop One question: Where the hell do I need to put the texture in the current version? 22:28 VanessaE texture? 22:28 VanessaE for what? 22:28 NekoGloop the wires 22:28 NekoGloop its not loading in the latest version :P 22:28 VanessaE re-clone 22:28 VanessaE jeija just fixed that 22:28 NakedFury folder>textures in jeija mesecon 22:29 NekoGloop ok 22:31 vicscandl woot! temp finally <90deg F. time to walk to the store for tallcans and tobacco. 22:31 NekoGloop lolok 22:32 NekoGloop does noone care I put an easter egg in GloopOres? 22:34 vicscandl NekoGloop: uh, by saying there is an easter egg, you kinda just made it into an "undocumented feature" 22:34 vicscandl half the point is not knowing the EA is in there 22:35 NekoGloop Well it's incredibly well hidden. 22:35 NekoGloop So now whatever you wanna call it. 22:38 jin_xi /giveme gloopores:easteregg 999 22:38 NekoGloop lolno 22:39 NekoGloop its not called that, for one. too obvious ;) 22:46 Keegan hello 22:47 NekoGloop so how has everyone's day been? 22:47 Keegan good 22:48 SmugLeaf https://images.4chan.org/v/src/1344724197177.jpg 22:48 JamieWill em well it s been 2 hours 22:48 JamieWill no its still today here in uk 22:48 JamieWill sorry 22:49 NekoGloop omg uk. 22:49 NekoGloop ENVY :3 22:50 hmmmm :/ 22:51 NekoGloop How do I quickly get rid of a lot of water? 22:51 hmmmm mapblock.h, line 527, change u32 m_modified; to ModifiedState m_modified, line 174, change u32 getModified() to ModifiedState getModified() 22:52 hmmmm that'll take care of one of the annoying warnings 22:52 Keegan why cant i play on 0.4.2 r1 clients? 22:53 NekoGloop because you are a haxxor 22:53 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co6gYkelPOY I nightmara... 22:56 OldCoder NekoGloop, he is /ignoring you for now 22:56 NekoGloop No he's not. 22:56 OldCoder ? 22:57 NekoGloop He has responded to me :P 22:57 OldCoder I am confused 22:57 OldCoder If you mean right now 22:57 OldCoder This remark was my idea 22:57 NekoGloop [18:42] so how has everyone's day been? 22:57 NekoGloop [18:42] good 22:57 OldCoder Ha 22:57 * OldCoder shrugs 22:58 NekoGloop DAMMIT 22:58 NekoGloop ... I just //dig'd my entire house 22:58 NekoGloop was just trying to remove some water... 22:59 NekoGloop why does //dig not allow you to specify specific blocks? 22:59 NekoGloop So much for my MESEcons Paradise :P 23:04 JamieWill nice :) 23:05 JamieWill good night! 23:05 Keegan bye 23:06 hmmmm oh my god 23:06 hmmmm i can't believe i didn't see this until now 23:06 hmmmm get rid of the_game() 23:06 NakedFury ? 23:06 hmmmm this is horrible, horrible, horrible, and definitely has a negative impact on performance 23:06 hmmmm break it up into lots of simple subroutines so the icache isn't constantly getting trashed every frame 23:07 SmugLeaf hmmmm: you just lost the_game() 23:07 NekoGloop you broke the_game() 23:08 NakedFury what is that command or action or whatever hmmmm? 23:08 NekoGloop kick_hmmmm_in_the_ass("hard") 23:09 jin_xi he's talking about the source of minetest 23:11 VanessaE hmmmm: do you think you can present a patch to fix the issue? 23:12 NekoGloop VanessaE: I just //dig'd my house >.> 23:13 VanessaE :( 23:13 VanessaE sowwy 23:15 NekoGloop I thought the command took a certain node as a parameter 23:16 NekoGloop So I did //dig default:water_source to get rid of the water in my house (building into an ocean, fun fun). 23:16 NekoGloop BOOM 23:16 NekoGloop NO MORE HOUSE 23:17 NekoGloop Me: FUUUUUUUUUU-- 23:17 NekoGloop Minetest: Ha-ha. 23:18 mrtux someone made a swastika on my server ;_; 23:19 NekoGloop kewl 23:19 NekoGloop did you know that the swastika, when flipped, is a symbol meaning "life"? 23:19 mrtux ah 23:19 NekoGloop (flipped horizontally) 23:19 mrtux i didn't know that 23:20 NekoGloop So look at the swastika from the other side ;) 23:21 hmmmm NakedFury, it's at map.cpp:837. 23:21 hmmmm VanessaE, I do plan on it - it's not an issue though, just more of a cleanup. I needed to fix something else in that function, but I can't work with such a monstrosity 23:22 hmmmm so that's gonna get cleaned up first 23:22 VanessaE be sure you push your patches out in small increments 23:22 hmmmm -O3 trashes the icache effectively enough - we don't need _more_ trashing! 23:22 VanessaE c55 insists that any patch only contain related changes 23:23 hmmmm I'll split my patch into the cleanup, and then the problem getting fixed 23:27 NekoGloop Meow~? 23:30 Keegan_ why cant use 0.4.2 r1 or 0.4.1 23:31 VanessaE use them with what? 23:31 Keegan_ servers 23:31 Keegan_ i cant play on them 23:32 NekoGloop hacked clients? 23:32 VanessaE well, if a server runs 0.4.1 or previous, 0.4.2 won't work because the server <-> client protocol has changed in a way that can't be made compatible 23:32 NakedFury 4.2 servers can only be played be 4.2 clients same with 4.1 23:33 VanessaE if the server runs 0.4.1 and your copy of 0.4.1 won't connect, probably the same thing - 0.4.x is not 100% stable yet, the server <-> client protocol occasionally gets updated and when that happens, it breaks compatibility with old versions. 23:33 VanessaE and if the server runs 0.3.x, you're definitely out of luck - that isn't compatible with anything in the 0.4 series. 23:35 Keegan_ $$ok 23:36 NekoGloop ohai cornernote. again 23:37 VanessaE hey cornernote 23:45 NekoGloop With a lot of time on your hands, you could make a computer out of a handful of microcontrollers. 23:46 NekoGloop Help with mesecon torch delayers, since normal delayers dont work? 23:48 JamieWill Yep well on mrtux server i cant do anything cuz my password is now incorrrect! 23:48 mrtux hmm 23:50 NekoGloop ... random crash minetest as I look at another window >.> 23:50 NekoGloop Me: Let's look up some mesecons contraptions 23:50 NekoGloop Minetest: FUCK YOU 23:50 VanessaE ? 23:51 NekoGloop lol 23:51 VanessaE normal delayers do work, I'm using them right now in fact. 23:51 NekoGloop lolno 23:51 NekoGloop unless you have to piss on them to have them work 23:51 VanessaE (working on the textures and nodeboxes as we speak) 23:52 VanessaE [switch][delayer][mese wire....] 23:52 VanessaE punch the switch to turn the circuit on, punch the delayer to set the timeout 23:53 NekoGloop I'm trying to make some background music with the noteblocks (which Jeija gave my recipe to ;#) 23:53 NekoGloop ;3*