Time  Nick            Message
00:15 NekoGloop       chat, y u so dead?
00:54 VanessaE        whoa, weird bug
00:54 VanessaE        add_node can put two nodes inside the same space
00:54 VanessaE        this is supposed to be impossible
00:55 VanessaE        I think.
00:55 VanessaE        no, maybe now
00:55 VanessaE        nevermind, ignore me ;-)
00:55 * VanessaE      wanders off to keep hacking
02:02 NekoGloop       Aw, we still arent alive?
02:02 NekoGloop       Chat's still dead?
02:03 NekoGloop       Well, for anyone who glances at the chat: I've made coal and iron generate in desert stone~
02:03 leo_rockway     I'm around
02:04 VanessaE        I'm barely hjere, just coding
02:04 leo_rockway     I'm watching a movie
02:05 NekoGloop       leo, wanna test my mod, cuz I know there's glitches just waiting to be evident?
02:05 leo_rockway     not at the moment
02:05 NekoGloop       Really the only reason I'd upload it is if someone wants it.
02:06 * mrtux         is away: Going to play Minetest
02:06 NekoGloop       VanessaE, you wanna try my mod (maybe not right now, but you get the idea)
02:09 NekoGloop       GloopOres, I'll only upload it if someone wants it. Adds some desert coal/iron generation, a special desert ore, as well as 4 ores in normal stone.
02:12 VanessaE        maybe later
02:12 NekoGloop       Do you want me to upload it now, while I'm thinking about it?
02:13 VanessaE        if it works, you should release it
02:13 VanessaE        put a topic in the "Modding General" section of the forums
02:13 VanessaE        describe it, give license info, etc etc like before
02:13 NekoGloop       I know. It's just people dont want more ores in addition to moreores.
02:13 VanessaE        so?
02:14 VanessaE        post it anyway :-)
02:14 NekoGloop       BTW, is there a problem with my GloopBlocks, or have you jsut not had time to move it?
02:14 VanessaE        I missed it :-)
02:15 VanessaE        you need more screenshots though
02:15 VanessaE        or at least a bigger one
02:15 NekoGloop       http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2650 GloopBlocks :P
02:15 VanessaE        that thumbnail's hard tosee
02:15 NekoGloop       The hoster automatically scales it down, click for a larger one :P
02:16 VanessaE        moved.
02:16 VanessaE        bbl
02:16 NekoGloop       should I edit the post so it says that?
02:16 VanessaE        naw it's ok
02:30 NekoGloop       VanessaE, may I have your help on something unifieddyes-related?
02:31 VanessaE        hm?
02:32 NekoGloop       I'm having trouble making a block craftable from the 12 dyes. As far as workbench mod goes, I'm fine for that. I just need help with what the names of the 12 base colors are.
02:32 VanessaE        unifieddyes:red
02:32 VanessaE        unifieddyes:orange
02:32 VanessaE        unifieddyes:yellow
02:32 VanessaE        etc
02:33 NekoGloop       but the craft isnt working
02:33 Keegan_         why cant i set defaulf privs
02:33 VanessaE        NekoGloop: are you using the latest version?
02:33 NekoGloop       yes, I think so.
02:33 VanessaE        NekoGloop: and you can craft the dyes okay?
02:33 NekoGloop       yesh
02:34 VanessaE        can you pastebin a recipe that isn't working?
02:34 VanessaE        Keegan_: could be anything - you'll have to do more investigating
02:34 NekoGloop       I need a pastebin link
02:34 VanessaE        look for error messgaes, etc.
02:34 VanessaE        NekoGloop: pastebin.com :-)
02:35 Keegan_         VanessaE like what
02:35 VanessaE        keegan:  anything.  look at your debug.txt
02:35 Keegan_         ok how do i find it
02:35 VanessaE        since we're not there at your desk watching things happen, we can't just outright tell you what's wrong without more information
02:36 VanessaE        in your minetest install folder.
02:36 NekoGloop       http://pastebin.com/kX9nUVwp
02:36 VanessaE        or in your config folder in linux (~/.minetest/debug.txt
02:36 Keegan_         ok
02:36 Keegan_         the debug?
02:36 NekoGloop       vanessae, that's my derpy code
02:36 VanessaE        Keegan_: yeah.  Look through that for error messages.
02:36 VanessaE        make a guess.
02:37 NekoGloop       anything that's wrong in the code @ vanessae?
02:37 VanessaE        NekoGloop: I dunno, that recipe looks right to me; did you register_node also?
02:37 NekoGloop       yesh
02:37 VanessaE        wait, it was working before though wasn't it
02:37 VanessaE        ?
02:37 NekoGloop       because /giveme gloopblocks:rainbow_block works fine
02:38 Keegan_         can i delete the debug and restart it so theres nit many stuff
02:38 NekoGloop       i didnt test the actual craft recipe
02:38 VanessaE        Keegan_: yeah
02:38 VanessaE        NekoGloop: I don't see anything wrong with this code... but is your crafting table up-to-date?
02:39 VanessaE        there was a bug that made it fail in 0.4.2, which was fixed already
02:39 Keegan_         do i delte it and put a new copy there?'
02:39 VanessaE        Keegan_: just delete it and run your server again.
02:39 NekoGloop       oh i might have to update workbench them
02:39 VanessaE        er 'scuse me - "workbench", not crafting table ;-)
02:40 NekoGloop       same difference
02:41 Keegan_         whats a seed ma for?
02:42 NekoGloop       uh... its the mapgen seed?
02:42 Keegan_         yea
02:42 Keegan_         can you make flat land with it?
02:42 NekoGloop       idk, dun ask me
02:43 Keegan_         VanessaE would it be at the top for the error?
02:43 VanessaE        dunno
02:43 NekoGloop       bottom
02:44 NekoGloop       its at the bottom of the file
02:44 Keegan_         ok
02:44 NekoGloop       it appends the file, putting data after whats already there
02:46 Keegan_         didnt find any errors Does # have to be next to it?
02:47 VanessaE        next to what?
02:47 NekoGloop       idk about server errors, I havent run a server before
02:47 Keegan_         the comment or pound the #######
02:48 VanessaE        you mean in the config file?
02:48 VanessaE        no.
02:48 VanessaE        if you put a # in front of an option you are *disabling* that option.
02:48 VanessaE        it's called "commenting it out"
02:48 VanessaE        so no, you probably don't want the #
02:49 Keegan_         okay
02:57 Keegan_         i cant do default privs
02:57 Keegan_         i fix the static spawn problem
02:57 Keegan_         someone made static spawnpoint mod to set spawn area
02:57 NekoGloop       VanessaE, it's because its unifieddyes:magenta, not unifieddyes:magneta
02:57 VanessaE        ha!
02:58 VanessaE        I didn't see that :-)
02:58 VanessaE        you trying to wedge X-Men into this? ;-)
02:58 Keegan_         now some one need to make a default privsmod
02:58 VanessaE        oh wait, that's magnetO, not magnetA ;-)
02:58 VanessaE        Keegan_: there's probably a setting for that already
02:58 NekoGloop       I didnt see it either, then i tried /giveme with all the items
02:58 VanessaE        or there are mods already - every server already does something like that that I've see
02:58 VanessaE        seen
02:59 Keegan_         no someone had a static spawn mod
02:59 Keegan_         tbrb
02:59 sdzen           i did
02:59 sdzen           and i sent it to you
02:59 VanessaE        static spawn != default privs.
03:03 NekoGloop       fifth time i've seen "minetest.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close" today. I'm on a roll. :3
03:03 VanessaE        well fwiw I can build simple 2d circuits with the mesecons nodebox wires I'm working on :-)
03:04 NekoGloop       RealBadAngel, did you pass out drunk yet?
03:05 NekoGloop       I'll take the silence as a yes.
03:05 Keegan_         sdzen can youmake adefult privsone???
03:05 VanessaE        Keegan_: such already exists.
03:05 sdzen           haha
03:05 sdzen           wouldnt matter anyway
03:06 Keegan_         what do you mean VanessaE
03:06 NekoGloop       Anyway, VanessaE, RBA is trying to get his electricity mod to have cables that go in all 6 directions, up/down/left/right/forward/away.
03:06 VanessaE        Keegan_: I mean someone out there has already made such a mod, or it's already part of the game - lots of servers have default privs already set up.
03:06 VanessaE        NekoGloop: I thought he did that already?
03:07 Keegan_         mine dont
03:07 VanessaE        Keegan_: then go search the forums
03:07 sdzen           my spawn mod that has worked for several 0.4 versions didnt work on yours :P
03:07 NekoGloop       VanessaE, he has working in SOME directions, and only link upon build, he's working on destroy event.
03:08 VanessaE        oh ok
03:10 NekoGloop       Now that rainbow blocks are craftable :P
03:10 NekoGloop       what else should I add before updating?
03:10 VanessaE        nothing for now
03:10 VanessaE        one step at a time
03:11 NekoGloop       ok, ver. 0.0.3 uploading now
03:15 KeeganonIpod    So what's the default privs mod called??
03:15 NekoGloop       uh... it isnt a mod... isnt it incorporated into minetest?
03:16 NekoGloop       VanessaE, do you have spare time to mess with my GloopOres now? :P
03:17 KeeganonIpod    When I set the default privs an we I create a new player it doesn't work
03:17 NekoGloop       ANYONE wanna have GloopOres?
03:17 NekoGloop       ANYONE AT ALL?!
03:18 KeeganonIpod    What is it
03:18 VanessaE        not right now, I'm busy stuffing my face and coding :-)
03:18 NekoGloop       Extra ores, including coal and iron generating in desert stone
03:19 KeeganonIpod    Not right now tomorrow cause I'm on my iPod touch right now in this chat room
03:20 VanessaE        this is NOT a "chat room"
03:20 NekoGloop       I can tell, hence "onIpod"
03:20 VanessaE        this is IRC and therefore this is a "channel"
03:20 NekoGloop       @VanessaE: lol rage much?
03:20 VanessaE        NekoGloop: not much ;)
03:20 NekoGloop       lol
03:21 KeeganonIpod    So it's like a chat room?
03:21 sdzen           tis not
03:21 sdzen           not exactly
03:21 VanessaE        KeeganonIpod: it serves a similar purpose, but when you're on IRC you should use IRC terminology.
03:23 KeeganonIpod    Ok still don't under stand this is not a chat room
03:23 leo_rockway     NekoGloop: the @ means op... this isn't Twitter o.o
03:23 VanessaE        KeeganonIpod: a chat room is routinely limited to one service, such as Yahoo.
03:23 VanessaE        IRC is spread across the internet and doesn't require an account with any commercial service.
03:24 NekoGloop       leo: it also means "at"
03:25 KeeganonIpod    Uhhh ok
03:25 leo_rockway     NekoGloop: I know, but an @ in front of a nick name in IRC means something different o.o
03:26 NekoGloop       It means "at you" in that case "at VanessaE" meaning I was talking to her.
03:26 VanessaE        KeeganonIpod: take it from someone who has been on IRC for over 16 years.  It's different.
03:26 KeeganonIpod    Gtg
03:27 leo_rockway     I've been on IRC for about 14 years.
03:30 NekoGloop       Meow~ :3
03:30 sdzen           woof }:)
03:31 * NekoGloop     hides o.o
03:32 * sdzen         calls demon spawn to hunt he who meows
03:34 cy1             NekoGloop: I found ur base :3
03:35 NekoGloop       D:
03:35 NekoGloop       So?
03:35 cy1             so uh...
03:35 cy1             well it's right next to spawn...
03:35 cy1             so I guess that's not so impressive...
03:35 NekoGloop       you're on zenoheld the backstab right?
03:35 cy1             but I made it on the backstab server though :<
03:35 NekoGloop       random spawn point, unless that was changed.
03:36 cy1             random-ish
03:36 cy1             default is to start at 0,0,0 and "wander around until you find someplace that's air"
03:36 NekoGloop       My house is not for you to greif, go away or I log on with my evil sword and slash you to bits
03:36 cy1             what, me grief? c:
03:36 cy1             unheard of c:
03:37 NekoGloop       lol ya right
03:39 cy1             meh, I found abed
03:40 cy1             but it's not healing me :c
03:40 NekoGloop       beds dont heal
03:46 cy1             they should!
03:46 cy1             it's a rule of rpgs :c
03:46 NekoGloop       very soon there will be a healing ore ;)
03:46 cy1             I think beds broke the server though.
03:46 cy1             Either that or ...Nightmare Moon!
03:47 NekoGloop       lol only if everyone is in bed
03:47 cy1             I was the only one on the server. :/
03:48 NekoGloop       lol cool
03:49 cy1             no, uncool
03:50 cy1             it didn't work
03:50 cy1             plus the server is trapped at time=0
03:51 cy1             EVERLASTING NIGGHT
03:53 NekoGloop       well whine to a moderator who can change it, not to me >.>
03:56 cy1             It's cool though!
03:56 cy1             can't see shit captain
03:57 servvs          what server are you guys playing on?
04:02 NekoGloop       he's on zenoheld the backstab on minetest.freedns.in:30000
04:02 NekoGloop       I'm not on anything
04:02 NekoGloop       http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36845#p36845 GloopOres, for those who are interested. Adds coal and iron to desert stone, which is cool.
04:04 NekoGloop       HEY! CY1!! I JUST GOT ON THE SERVER!! D:<
04:07 NekoGloop       servvs: go on minetest.freedns.in:30000
04:17 servvs          I will in just a moment
04:17 servvs          !
04:26 cornernote      hey
04:28 [JJ]Albert      yeh?
04:28 cornernote      i added up/down pistons to mesecons - https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/pull/12 =)
04:28 [JJ]Albert      oh, kewl
04:32 cornernote      now to make a lava pool with a button to make stairs =)
04:45 NekoGloop       http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36845#p36845 @ cornernote and [JJ]Albert It's GloopOres!
04:48 NekoGloop       gonna go to bed now :P
04:48 NekoGloop       bai
05:07 Linxxen         heloo
05:18 cornernote      NekoGloop - it spawns in dirt ?  cool
08:18 RealBadAngel    hi folks
08:18 RealBadAngel    hi troll ;)
08:19 RealBadAngel    oh, he went to sleep
08:19 RealBadAngel    pity
08:24 VanessaE        hey rba
08:30 RealBadAngel    hi
08:30 Calinou         hi
08:31 VanessaE        cal
08:31 RealBadAngel    i made all the basic code alreay, today gonna just make low-res textures
08:32 RealBadAngel    and will release the update
08:33 RealBadAngel    at start there will be one kind of furnace, battery boxes, rechargeable batteries and solar panel
08:33 RealBadAngel    will be adding more machines with next updates
08:35 RealBadAngel    posted the plan about them in "good bye coal" topic
08:36 RealBadAngel    more ideas and suggestions are welcome
08:38 RealBadAngel    btw, calinou.i thought a little bout ores
08:39 Calinou         inb4 ADD MAGNESIUM
08:39 Calinou         :)
08:39 RealBadAngel    minecraft modders had very same problem as we are goin to have
08:39 jin_xi          magnets would be cool tho
08:39 RealBadAngel    many different ores added by different modders
08:40 RealBadAngel    in minecraft it ended like two or three kinds of copper etc
08:40 RealBadAngel    and then within Forge modding community
08:41 RealBadAngel    Eloraam forced something called Ore Dictionary
08:41 RealBadAngel    many ores useable for other modders
08:42 RealBadAngel    when some1 need specific ore
08:42 RealBadAngel    it can be added to the dictionary
08:42 RealBadAngel    and is aviable for all
08:43 Calinou         http://paste.dy.fi/JRJ :D
08:44 RealBadAngel    whats that?
08:44 VanessaE        evening thomas.
08:44 Calinou         it means my debian only has free packages... nothing proprietary
08:44 Calinou         hi VanessaE
08:45 thomas          hi VanessaE
08:45 RealBadAngel    what do you think bout such dictionary?
08:45 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: is your algo ready to use with pipes?  *fsjal*
08:46 jin_xi          nice fsjal use there
08:46 RealBadAngel    it is, need just to comment it
08:46 VanessaE        ok
08:46 RealBadAngel    so anyone could understand what it does :)
08:47 RealBadAngel    you saw earlier version, its raw code with no comments at all
08:48 VanessaE        *nod*
08:49 VanessaE        after today's utter failure working out the nodebox-based mesecons wires I need a little good news :-)
08:49 VanessaE        I got as far as reliably making regular 2d circuits, but climbing up/down hills, even with just one wire, just stumped me
08:52 RealBadAngel    vanessa: what do you think bout "ore dictionary" idea?
08:52 VanessaE        not sure
08:52 RealBadAngel    its kinda like dye problem
08:53 RealBadAngel    and it starts to grow
08:53 RealBadAngel    seen many metal mod, crystal mods
08:53 VanessaE        yeah, but like the dyes, http://xkcd.com/927/
08:53 VanessaE        there's always someone who won't use it :-)
08:53 RealBadAngel    lol
08:54 RealBadAngel    main modders should stick to it
08:54 RealBadAngel    newcomers can jump in with ideas
08:54 RealBadAngel    or follow the flow
08:54 RealBadAngel    i mean standard
08:55 VanessaE        it's the "jump in with ideas" part that's the problem. :-)
08:55 RealBadAngel    its newcomers privilege
08:55 VanessaE        everyone will have ideas, and most will just go ahead and implement them without consulting any kind of standards documents
08:55 RealBadAngel    sooner or later they will get used to dictionary
08:56 jin_xi          also for flowers...
08:56 RealBadAngel    its in fact for all kinds
08:56 RealBadAngel    not just ores
08:56 jin_xi          if it enables more complex spawning rules which add to better biomes im all for it
08:57 RealBadAngel    calinou seems to be perfect one to admin ore dictionary
08:57 RealBadAngel    vanessa should take care of flowers and dyes
08:57 VanessaE        tell that to sda97 :-/
08:58 RealBadAngel    i will
08:58 VanessaE        heh
08:58 RealBadAngel    or even better we can exclude mods like that
08:59 RealBadAngel    like dependecies negated
08:59 jin_xi          lol
08:59 VanessaE        I meant he's one of those that ignores the standards - his 'more flowers' mod uses half of ironzorg's flowers and bits and pieces of a few other mods like farming, adds some new stuff and puts it all together into one
08:59 RealBadAngel    so mainstream mods will refuse to work with blacklisted ones
09:01 jin_xi          i don't think exclusion is necessary
09:01 Calinou         <RealBadAngel> Eloraam forced something called Ore Dictionary
09:01 RealBadAngel    players will do that anyways
09:01 Calinou         girls like forcing stuff
09:01 jin_xi          it would be better to adress those problems with dictionary or so
09:01 Calinou         that's normal
09:01 Calinou         <RealBadAngel> in minecraft it ended like two or three kinds of copper etc
09:01 Calinou         it's their fault - minecraft modders lack organization
09:02 RealBadAngel    look for Minecraft Forge
09:02 RealBadAngel    she in fact built standards
09:03 RealBadAngel    most of the best minecraft mods follow Forge rules and standards
09:03 jin_xi          it would be nice if anyone could just add his flower with conforming table, register it and have all be taken care of via standard plants mod
09:04 RealBadAngel    Equivalent Exchange 2, RedPower 2, Industrial Craft, Build Craft, ThaumCraft, MystCraft
09:04 Calinou         it's like blacklisting, backdoors and such are the good.(R)
09:04 RealBadAngel    and morre
09:04 Calinou         ~microsoft,apple,andsuch
09:05 RealBadAngel    all the most complex mods usin the Forge
09:05 RealBadAngel    with unified ores,materials and so
09:05 RealBadAngel    and all are able to use other mods objects
09:07 RealBadAngel    so its possible for example to use magic aura to power electric machines
09:07 RealBadAngel    with proper converter
09:07 RealBadAngel    forge allows such stuff
09:11 RealBadAngel    my idea is: calinou for minerals and ores, vanessa for plants and dyes, jeija for mesecons and logic, me for electricity
09:11 RealBadAngel    magic aura is not seen yet and a free seat tho
09:19 jin_xi          hmm, i try asking again:
09:19 jin_xi          anybody has an idea how i could save some metadata along with crafted item?
09:20 jin_xi          i want to make recipe 8 dyes -> palette and need to save which colors were used
09:20 VanessaE        not a clue :-/
09:20 thexyz          try asking c55 in #minetest-dev
09:21 jin_xi          hmm
09:22 jin_xi          i thought i'd ask here first
09:22 jin_xi          he already said its the most horrible thing ever :)
09:22 * VanessaE      fades
09:23 VanessaE        getting sleepy..
09:23 VanessaE        be back tomorrow/later
09:23 VanessaE        night
09:27 RealBadAngel    hmmmm
09:28 RealBadAngel    i ve had similar problem
09:28 RealBadAngel    with chests network
09:28 RealBadAngel    so i created node called subspace beacon
09:29 RealBadAngel    and store all the data needed in its meta
09:30 RealBadAngel    call it MyPaintingDiary or somethin ;)
09:31 RealBadAngel    and allow folks to make owns compositions
09:31 jin_xi          yeah, i could give the easel an inventory to craft palettes, but i think its lame
09:31 jin_xi          there needs to be a way to save for example who crafted an item
09:32 RealBadAngel    since there is not such way we need to look for temporary solutions
09:32 jin_xi          right
09:32 RealBadAngel    i think mine is both elegant and logic
09:32 RealBadAngel    and gives freedom for players creations
09:33 RealBadAngel    no need to hard code then
09:33 RealBadAngel    let players define what they need
09:34 RealBadAngel    just provide storage for that data
09:35 RealBadAngel    call the node Paint Shop
09:35 RealBadAngel    and within it allow creatin of whatever
09:35 RealBadAngel    you can make it owned, like a chest
09:36 RealBadAngel    so folks on multiplayer will see Paint Shop (owned by jin_xi)
09:38 RealBadAngel    and even more, with some kind of currency
09:38 RealBadAngel    will be able to buy formulas made by you
09:38 jin_xi          lol
09:38 jin_xi          i want to start simple
09:38 thexyz          http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2736
09:39 RealBadAngel    put a coin to get a formula for the paint
09:39 jin_xi          thexyz: nice
09:40 RealBadAngel    thexyz: ive already said: awesome :)
09:40 RealBadAngel    but can repeat many times lol
09:43 jin_xi          thexyz: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-07-25 read this from 21:12 on
09:43 jin_xi          has some info on tile.cpp feature
09:44 RealBadAngel    21:17
09:44 RealBadAngel    was enough for me
09:44 RealBadAngel    c55 started to talk like notch
09:44 jin_xi          well, he is right, 256 entities for that purpose is horrible
09:45 RealBadAngel    so what
09:45 jin_xi          then he proceeded to give me a hint on how to do it properly
09:45 RealBadAngel    i could use milions when neede
09:45 RealBadAngel    we make needs
09:45 jin_xi          i agree, but it needs to be sane for the purpose
09:45 RealBadAngel    what is sane?
09:45 jin_xi          my solution clearly was not ;)
09:45 RealBadAngel    who defined that?
09:46 jin_xi          fps?
09:46 RealBadAngel    make ur code fast
09:46 RealBadAngel    optimize it
09:46 jin_xi          thats what i did... removing all but one entity
09:46 RealBadAngel    i did same with wires
09:46 RealBadAngel    for sake of 1 node i created 64
09:46 jin_xi          anyway, i think i know the reason for texture glitches in sign mod
09:47 jin_xi          you can't compose textures, its more like stitching them together i believe
09:48 RealBadAngel    implemented Tarjan's algorithm for finding strong connected elements
09:48 RealBadAngel    realtime
09:48 RealBadAngel    not seein fps drop at all
09:49 RealBadAngel    and my wires network is live
09:49 RealBadAngel    it autocompletes itself
09:49 RealBadAngel    splits or joins
09:50 * jin_xi        doesen't even know who Tarjan is
09:50 RealBadAngel    some wise mathematican
09:50 jin_xi          reading wiki now
09:51 thexyz          jin_xi: thanks, but it doesn't help
09:51 thexyz          now i only know that minetest leaks memory in that case
09:51 RealBadAngel    no when you take care of it
09:52 jin_xi          lol yes, but i think there was kahrls patch?
09:52 RealBadAngel    you have remove old tables
09:52 jin_xi          painting at 64 pixels should make a decent testcase
09:52 thexyz          i think it was working only when logging out and entering game again without closing minetest
09:52 thexyz          so it's useless in this case
09:52 RealBadAngel    without it ive run out of memory after like 1k iterations
09:53 RealBadAngel    and have here 4gb
09:53 thexyz          RealBadAngel: read that log
09:53 thexyz          it's about freeing textures, not tables
09:53 RealBadAngel    that shouldnt be allowed
09:54 RealBadAngel    freeein node's definition
09:54 thexyz          what?
09:54 thexyz          client should free them
09:54 RealBadAngel    once created it shall be aviable for all
09:54 thexyz          when texture is not used by anyone
09:54 RealBadAngel    mean definition?
09:55 RealBadAngel    or player made one
09:55 thexyz          any texture
09:55 RealBadAngel    so no
09:55 thexyz          especially those ones with modifiers
09:55 RealBadAngel    it could impy that you could delete default:cobble for example
09:56 RealBadAngel    *imply
09:56 RealBadAngel    maybe if you create sandbox for it
09:57 thexyz          wat?
09:57 RealBadAngel    and within allow to create and delete objects
09:57 thexyz          client. should. do. that.
09:57 thexyz          regardless of server
10:05 RealBadAngel    no
10:06 RealBadAngel    have to be done servers side
10:06 RealBadAngel    so anyone could see the result
10:06 thexyz          so, you mean, texture freeing (which affects only client) should be done serverside?
10:06 RealBadAngel    when u make somethin
10:07 RealBadAngel    you and other players alike should be able to see it
10:07 thexyz          do you know what is texture "freeing"?
10:08 RealBadAngel    i do
10:08 thexyz          really?
10:08 RealBadAngel    but freein on just client side will cause artefacts
10:08 thexyz          it seems you don't
10:08 RealBadAngel    enlight me then
10:09 thexyz          http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/clibrary/cstdlib/free/
10:10 jin_xi          its a texture that is created dynamically, and stored in an imagestring on serverside
10:10 jin_xi          clients use that to construct texture, but never free that generated texture
10:11 jin_xi          if you destroy item holding imagestring, it is gone
10:13 RealBadAngel    once item is "alive" it cannot be deleted
10:14 RealBadAngel    or bound possible creations
10:14 RealBadAngel    to avoid to highn memory usage
10:15 RealBadAngel    or stick it to the node
10:15 RealBadAngel    on node destroy, destroy definitions too
10:16 RealBadAngel    and free the mem
10:17 jin_xi          thats what i do, but client does not free the texture
10:17 jin_xi          or any of the intermediate states of painting
10:17 RealBadAngel    lua or engine bug?
10:18 thexyz          jin_xi: why can't texture be free when applying new one to entity? can one texture (made from string with modifiers) be used several times?
10:19 RealBadAngel    with my wires i made all possible connections
10:19 RealBadAngel    64, predefined them
10:20 RealBadAngel    and using when needed and fit
10:20 * jin_xi        wanders off to predefine all possible images
10:20 RealBadAngel    i made in a loop
10:20 thexyz          lol
10:20 RealBadAngel    but i think with paintings it wont work ;)
10:21 RealBadAngel    im in a more comfortable position
10:21 thexyz          13^(64*64)
10:22 RealBadAngel    64 here, no more, no less
10:22 thexyz          aww
10:22 thexyz          i mean, just https://gist.github.com/059c264897e454b530d5 textures
10:22 RealBadAngel    shouldnt you scream out loud at c55?
10:23 thexyz          who? why?
10:23 RealBadAngel    to fix that leak
10:23 thexyz          now there are more important things to fix
10:24 thexyz          for example, fucking item duplication bug
10:24 RealBadAngel    sooner or later he will fix it
10:25 RealBadAngel    depends on how many folks will start to shout
10:25 jin_xi          thexyz: you posted kahrls patch on the forum, right? did you test it?
10:26 RealBadAngel    gather some folks, translate demand to finnish
10:26 RealBadAngel    and spam the channel c55 is on
10:26 jin_xi          no, dont spam
10:26 RealBadAngel    first ask
10:26 RealBadAngel    once not heared
10:26 RealBadAngel    .... well. flood him
10:26 thexyz          jin_xi: no, i didn't
10:27 RealBadAngel    game creators have one common bug built-in
10:28 RealBadAngel    they have mic input turned down to 10%
10:28 thexyz          jin_xi: but it seems to do something similar
10:28 RealBadAngel    when ppl tryin to say somethin
10:29 RealBadAngel    they cant hear
10:29 RealBadAngel    some word can pass, like hi, or whats up
10:29 RealBadAngel    but nothin more complicated ;)
10:30 thexyz          but not really, seems that it only frees textures that weren't freed on game relogin
10:30 Calinou         <thexyz> i mean, just https://gist.github.com/059c264897e454b530d5 textures
10:30 Calinou         not a power of 2 :c
10:31 RealBadAngel    gtg, bbl
10:31 thexyz          why should that be power of 2?
10:31 jin_xi          srs, i want to support all unified colors ;)
10:32 Calinou         textures are usually powers of 2
10:33 Calinou         some older GPUs do not support non-power-of-two textures
13:47 xorius          hi man
13:52 pskosinski      "Error loading mod "animals_modpack-1.3.0": modname does not follow naming conventions"
13:52 pskosinski      Y…
13:52 pskosinski      Ouch, nvm. -.-
13:53 pskosinski      Blah, not nvmd.
13:53 pskosinski      I changed animals_modpack to animals_modpack but still
13:53 pskosinski      I changed animals_modpack-1.3.0 to animals_modpack but still
13:54 pskosinski      Ouch, it helped, but…
13:55 pskosinski      Failed to load and run script from, blah, blah init.lua
13:55 pskosinski      There is not init.lua in archive…
13:59 Keegan_         hello
14:00 pskosinski      hi
14:00 Keegan_         thexyz: how did youmake the server monitoring site?
14:06 pskosinski      the hell
14:07 pskosinski      Put the textures without subfolders in
14:07 pskosinski      <minetest directory>/textures/all/
14:07 pskosinski      For installed Linux versions, <minetest directory> is ~/.minetest
14:07 pskosinski      Sorry, doesn't work…
14:09 Keegan_         i want to ask this one question What would you change in Minetest?
14:20 pskosinski      Hm… wolf eats me using his ass.
14:22 Calinou         Keegan_, you
14:22 Calinou         lol
14:24 Keegan_         why me?
14:25 Keegan_         brb
14:25 Calinou         lol
14:26 Keegan_         ok im back
14:26 Calinou         one does not simply brb on IRC
14:27 Keegan_         how do you make a server faster
14:29 Calinou         http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1825
14:29 Keegan_         yea i did that
14:29 thexyz          buy new cpu
14:35 Keegan_         i still cant set default privs
14:42 pskosinski      The hell, with this animal mod it is a bit scary. -.-
14:42 Keegan_         does t lag?
14:44 Calinou         hate the animals mod
14:45 Keegan_         why
14:45 pskosinski      I can't kill them. o.o
14:45 Keegan_         do they look dumb
14:45 pskosinski      Sword doesn't work with cows? ^^
14:47 Keegan_         do anyone know the command for fence for world edit
14:48 sfan5           Keegan_: what?
14:49 Keegan_         when i type //set fence it says invalid node
14:50 Keegan_         invalid node name
14:53 sfan5           how about //set default:fence:_wood =
14:53 sfan5           *?
14:53 sfan5           *how about //set default:fence_wood ?
14:54 Keegan_         thanks it works
15:00 Keegan_         does the cyro stuff lag the server
15:03 sfan5           idk
15:08 Calinou         sfan5, custom aliases are borked with worldedit
15:08 Calinou         /giveme stonebricks
15:08 Calinou         works
15:08 Calinou         //set stonebricks
15:08 Calinou         unknown block - the first block in the selection gets replaced though
15:12 Keegan_         hey mrtux
15:12 mrtux           hi
15:12 mrtux           i see you are using irc keegan :P
15:13 mrtux           I'm on irc all day long lol
15:13 Keegan_         yea
15:18 Keegan_         can you get rid of workers?
15:18 Keegan_         lke only have miiner and thief
15:19 mrtux           haven't messed with workers
15:22 sfan5           * rbooyer2 (6157b861@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.87.184.97) joined #minecraft
15:22 sfan5           <rbooyer2> im back
15:22 sfan5           <Xd1358> good, we were about to panic
15:38 Keegan_         anyone know how to make a moded clnet
15:38 Keegan_         client?
15:43 sfan5           Keegan_: what do you mean?
15:43 Keegan_         like a hack/moded client
15:43 sfan5           i have one
15:43 Keegan_         want it plz
15:44 sfan5           it had instant digging until celeron fixed it
15:44 sfan5           no
15:44 Keegan_         plz
15:44 Keegan_         why not?
15:45 sfan5           because you would use it for griefing
15:45 Keegan_         no i wouldnt
15:45 sfan5           still no
15:45 Keegan_         plz i just want to see what t looks lke
15:46 Jeija           http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1307
15:46 Jeija           well that's server mod, but maybe you can use it Keegan_
15:49 pskosinski      Animals mode, I made a cave, something is making strange sounds in this cave but there is nothing…
15:49 pskosinski      wtf?
15:49 Keegan_         sfan5 may i have it plz
15:49 sfan5           no
15:50 Keegan_         why not?
15:51 sfan5           no
15:51 Keegan_         no why?
15:51 Keegan_         hi jame
15:53 Jamie_          im looking for a hack clent anyone have one
15:54 sfan5           Keegan_'s IP -> 66.227.221.69 | Jamie_'s IP -> 66.227.221.69
15:54 sfan5           Jamie_, Keegan_: NO
15:55 Jamie_          its a differnet person
15:55 Keegan_         plz i will not grieft
15:56 sfan5           NOOOOOOo
15:56 Keegan_         why not
15:56 Keegan_         i thought you are supposed to be nice
15:56 Keegan_         then tell me how to do t
15:56 sfan5           no
15:57 Keegan_         why not
15:57 Jeija           I can tell you:
15:57 Jeija           Learn C++ noob
15:57 Keegan_         i doubt ll fiqured t out anyway
15:57 sfan5           :D
15:57 pskosinski      ANIMALS: BUG!!! didn't find a way to stop animal at(-194.08061218262,6,-12.954901695251)from running into water or dropping <- woot
15:58 Keegan_         urgh
16:00 Keegan_         plz
16:02 Keegan_         come on sfan5 giveme a hack client or make a default privs mod
16:02 sfan5           what?
16:03 Keegan_         sfan5 giveme a hack client or make a default privs mod
16:03 Keegan_         oh crap
16:03 sfan5           what do you mean by default privs mod?
16:03 Keegan_         sdzen made a static spawn mod
16:07 Keegan_         why dont you giveme the hack client?
16:09 thexyz          why was Mallot1 banned?
16:09 Keegan_         idk
16:10 sfan5           thexyz: insulting other users + massive use of caps
16:19 Keegan_         i need help
16:24 Keegan_         how do you create daily map updates?
16:25 sfan5           ask redcrab
16:27 Keegan_         hes not on
16:29 Keegan_         ho wont talk to me
16:30 Keegan_         sfan5 he wont help me
16:30 sfan5           thats sad
16:30 Keegan_         s he on?
16:31 sfan5           idk
16:34 Keegan_         anyone else know how to do daily map update
17:06 Keegan_         sfan5 can you give me t now?
17:06 sfan5_          no
17:07 Keegan_         why
17:07 sfan5_          no
17:07 Keegan_         WHY???
17:09 Keegan_         sfan5 WHY????????????/
17:09 ecube           ._.
17:10 Keegan_         ecube you know how to do daily map updates?
17:10 ecube           nope
17:11 Keegan_         Calinou you know how to do daily map updates?
17:11 ecube           what do you mean?
17:11 Calinou         daily map updates?
17:11 Keegan_         daly map updates
17:11 Calinou         to update a map you posted on the forum, just re-upload it
17:11 Calinou         <_<
17:11 Keegan_         lke on redcrabs forum
17:11 Calinou         oh, you mean, using the minetest mapper?
17:11 ecube           you mean like an overhead map?
17:12 Keegan_         tyes
17:12 ecube           I think he does it manually
17:12 Calinou         oh dog... another guy to slab with the "not possible" stick
17:12 Calinou         it doesn't work on windows; I tested
17:12 ecube           you mean slap?
17:12 Calinou         the mapper script only seems to work on linux for some reason :/
17:12 Calinou         slap* yes
17:12 Keegan_         why
17:12 * ecube         checks
17:12 Calinou         don't know
17:12 Calinou         ecube, maybe it works for you.
17:12 Calinou         I tried with python 2.6 and it didn't
17:12 ecube           of course it works, i'm on linux
17:13 Calinou         I'm on windows and I have a virtualbox with debian unstable inside :P
17:13 ecube           I know why it doesn't work on windows
17:13 Calinou         inb4 "format c:"
17:13 ecube           the first line says: #!/usr/bin/env python2
17:13 ecube           Windows doesn't use that path formatting thing
17:13 Calinou         haha
17:13 Calinou         yep, definitely
17:13 Calinou         I'm going to try editing it around to make it work on windows
17:13 ecube           I think it woudl work if you changed that to #!C:\Path\To\python
17:14 ecube           or removed the first line entirely
17:14 whirm           hi everyone
17:14 Calinou         hi, unaffilated guy :)
17:14 ecube           hi
17:14 * Calinou       is unaffilated too :D
17:14 ecube           Maybe i should get a different cloak
17:14 ecube           idk :P
17:14 ecube           btw
17:14 Keegan_         you guys fiqured t out and ill come back later
17:15 ecube           you also have to have zlib
17:15 Keegan_         you have a complied minetest?
17:15 ecube           me?
17:15 ecube           what
17:15 ecube           oh
17:15 Keegan_         yea
17:16 ecube           i thought you said complicated XD
17:16 ecube           yeah, mine's compiled
17:16 Keegan_         can i have it
17:16 ecube           have what?
17:16 Keegan_         im too lazy to do mine to comple t
17:16 ecube           I got a compiled version because I never trust precompiled binaries
17:16 ecube           not because of the fear of viruses
17:17 ecube           because of the fear that it gets installed into my sys directories
17:17 ecube           or it doesn't work
17:29 Calinou         packaged installs of games suck
17:29 Calinou         I tried packaging minetest for debian once; I gave up. it's a PITA
17:30 Calinou         skill-less (as in gaming) linuxians at least CAN package it incorrectly
17:30 Calinou         so that people play outdated versions
17:30 Calinou         :)
17:30 Calinou         Keegan_, you're on linux? O8o
17:30 Calinou         O_o*
17:31 ecube           Packages are for n00bs
17:31 ecube           or lazyes
17:32 Calinou         lol, true, well at least for games
17:32 ecube           for most things
17:32 Calinou         compiling yourself gives more "power" too... if you want to edit the source around a bit for fun
17:32 Calinou         or just read it
17:33 ecube           like i did with minetest XD
17:33 ecube           I just felt that darkness was a bit too dark
17:33 Calinou         on my screen I see absolutely nothing in darkness
17:33 Calinou         more realism
17:34 ecube           true
17:34 ecube           but i just dont like it very much
17:42 Calinou         http://i.imgur.com/vodKA.jpg LOL
17:43 Calinou         I noticed in the URL - VODKA
17:46 RealBadAngel    hungry thinks bout eating ;)
17:47 RealBadAngel    hi again, back from work
17:48 RealBadAngel    @calinou: thought a little bout dictionary?
17:50 Calinou         nah, probably not
17:50 Calinou         this is very bad for minetest's openness
17:50 Calinou         keep in mind minecraft is proprietary and all mods are actually illegal and terrible hacks
17:51 Calinou         (yes, they are)
17:51 ecube           true
17:51 ecube           lol
17:51 ecube           well
17:51 ecube           not all of them
17:52 Calinou         they're all illegal actually, want to see their ToS?
17:52 ecube           it's said that eventually when minecraft begins to die, the devs will make it opensource
17:52 Calinou         very unlikely actually
17:52 ecube           I never read the ToS's
17:52 Calinou         they're obfuscating their code every new release
17:52 ecube           lol
17:52 Calinou         even minor releases
17:53 ecube           Well, he should modify the Tos even though he probably shouldn't
17:53 ecube           mods are the reason why mc is alive
17:54 Calinou         http://minecraft.net/terms
17:54 Calinou         "Do not distribute anything we've made."
17:54 Calinou         both modified and unmodified
17:55 JamieWill       sad
17:55 ecube           actually, most mods only modify certain classes, so that's legal
17:55 ecube           :P
17:56 ecube           that is, only a few files in the jar
17:56 ecube           so they're legal :P
17:56 khonkhortisan   I think my furnace freezes when I'm not looking at it
17:56 ecube           I personally think that the block changing algorithm is a bit slow
17:57 khonkhortisan   Calinou: It may be an old copy of moreores, but why are there no tin and copper blocks? (and Silver Block has the description Silver Ore)
17:58 ecube           also, as long as you don't sell whatever you made, it's fine with them
17:58 Calinou         ecube, patchers stay a terrible hack
17:58 Calinou         khonkhortisan, it doesn't ;)
17:58 ecube           but not illegal
17:58 ecube           that's the important part
17:58 Calinou         yeah
17:58 Calinou         but you have to decompile MC source
17:58 Calinou         decompiling MC source is legal though
17:58 ecube           And not necesarily to terrible, I use a patcher so i can use HDtextures
17:58 JamieWill       can you use a 4.2 world on 4.1 somehow as i want it for all my servers?
17:59 Calinou         JamieWill, yes, worlds are forwards compatible
17:59 ecube           try it
17:59 ecube           he wants it to be backwards compatible
17:59 Calinou         yes you can, too
17:59 Calinou         in most cases
17:59 Calinou         erm nevermind
17:59 JamieWill       ok ill try it
17:59 Calinou         0.4.2 maps are incompatible with 0.4.1, I forgot
17:59 Calinou         :/
17:59 JamieWill       oh ok
17:59 Calinou         sorry
18:00 Calinou         khonkhortisan, about the descriptions... blame marktraceur :P I should fix them sooner or later
18:00 Calinou         low priority heh
18:00 RealBadAngel    i wasnt talkin mc
18:00 JamieWill       ar they compatible with any most likely no
18:00 RealBadAngel    i said WE do need such libriaries
18:01 khonkhortisan   okay. Is there a reason tin and copper can't be crafted into blocks until after smelting into bronze?
18:01 RealBadAngel    for example my mod need actually 3 new ores
18:01 ecube           because
18:01 Calinou         well... not really theorically.
18:01 ecube           they are the useless kind
18:01 RealBadAngel    shall i add them without askin any1?
18:01 Calinou         copper/tin aren't materials you would use for building
18:01 ecube           but theoretically, you should be able to
18:01 ecube           What if you wanted to make the statue of liberty?
18:01 khonkhortisan   I like expensive decorations
18:01 Calinou         you can use copper for rails already ;) thin stuff
18:01 ecube           lol
18:01 Calinou         ecube, the statue of liberty is made of copper O_o
18:02 RealBadAngel    i need semiconductor for example
18:02 ecube           No
18:02 Calinou         I forgot about that
18:02 ecube           it's just covered in copper
18:02 JamieWill       O_o
18:02 Calinou         some sort of "cover" is impossible. MT doesn't like transparent stuff at all
18:02 Calinou         doesn't work with nodeboxes
18:02 RealBadAngel    solar cells are not made with copper just
18:02 Calinou         and plain cover is quite useless too
18:02 khonkhortisan   floor moulding in a house would be quite difficult
18:03 Calinou         maybe I could add copper wires to simulate internet connections
18:03 Calinou         lmao
18:03 JamieWill       What does this mean Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd not found
18:03 khonkhortisan   mesecons could use copper
18:03 RealBadAngel    i use a lots of calinou's ores
18:03 RealBadAngel    but need some more
18:04 JamieWill       What does this mean Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd not found
18:04 RealBadAngel    who shall i ask then? notch?
18:04 Calinou         RealBadAngel, make em yourself :p
18:04 JamieWill       sorry for same message 2
18:04 RealBadAngel    made that
18:04 RealBadAngel    added 3 kinds of crystals
18:04 Calinou         I'm not against towards adding new gem ores like ruby/sapphire/turquoise/emerald, but I need to find a more interesting use for them
18:05 Calinou         eg. not tools
18:05 RealBadAngel    i do have USE for them
18:05 Calinou         then go implement your own ore
18:05 JamieWill       what is that error?
18:05 Calinou         I can make textures if you want :P
18:05 Calinou         JamieWill, don't know
18:05 RealBadAngel    asked, took a bit of your code
18:05 RealBadAngel    its generating
18:06 Calinou         https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/178
18:06 Calinou         see this JamieWill
18:07 RealBadAngel    nvm, i will use moreores like no one before, u will see
18:10 ecube           those would be beautiful
18:10 ecube           you coudl use the alpha thing to make them semitransparent
18:10 Calinou         alpha breaks 3D-items-in-hand
18:10 Calinou         ;)
18:10 Calinou         however I could use semi-transparent inventory_image and opaque wield_image
18:10 Calinou         that'd fix that bug
18:11 ecube           you don't even have to do that, only make the block semitranspernt when placed
18:11 Calinou         RealBadAngel, it's fine anyway ;) GPL is permissive, the only restriction is that you must release the source (you already do so anyway)
18:11 Calinou         ecube, yay, cheating FTW
18:11 Calinou         see bobblocks - seeing caves
18:11 Calinou         ::
18:11 Calinou         :/*
18:11 ecube           lol
18:11 ecube           that's a bug
18:12 ecube           of alpha
18:12 ecube           but how does glass get transparent without seeing caves?
18:16 xorius          А кто-нить говорит по-русски?)
18:16 ecube           T_T_T_T
18:17 FreeFull        Calinou: Magic
18:17 FreeFull        Use the gems for magic
18:17 JamieWill       Wowowowow i got it to work!
18:17 xorius          How can help me to merg minetest on gentoo?
18:18 JamieWill       Server is up anyone want to help me make sky castle if you help admin privs are up for grabs?
18:23 khonkhortisan   will work for privs. That's a nice arrangement.
18:23 khonkhortisan   that looks like russian to me
18:23 JamieWill       ok khonk
18:24 ecube           lol
18:24 ecube           wut
18:27 JamieWill       78.146.188.96 port 30049 0.4.2 rc1 skycastle help = Privs?
18:28 khonkhortisan   I'm busy on a menger sponge
18:32 JamieWill       oh ok if anyone else wants im up for it
18:39 ecube           someone asked me how to make a server T_T
18:40 whirm           how do you increase the view distance in minetest?
18:41 sfan5           + and  key
18:41 sfan5           * - key
18:42 whirm           oh, I just saw de example config file, but thanks sfan5, that's better :)
18:46 whirm           does minetest have any limit on the texture size?
18:46 sfan5           no
18:46 whirm           nice
18:50 whirm           and its pretty fast on my laptop, faster than minecraft
18:50 * VanessaE      wanders in
18:51 whirm           (that's not hard though... :D)
18:51 VanessaE        whirm: it won't be fast if you use my 512px pack ;-)
18:51 JamieWill       lol
18:51 VanessaE        that bastard can bring even a modern gfx card to its knees ;-)
18:51 whirm           how many devs are adding content to the game?
18:51 whirm           VanessaE: :D
18:52 whirm           VanessaE: where can I get it?
18:52 JamieWill       who can help me build a sky castle it far to hard to do 200x200
18:52 VanessaE        whirm: nevermind it, it ain't appropriate for a laptop
18:52 JamieWill       Unless Alienware!
18:53 whirm           VanessaE: nah, dell e4300 :D
18:53 VanessaE        whirm: if you mean the game core itself, only a couple of people are really active, and there's maybe half a dozen or so
18:53 VanessaE        (re: # of contrib)
18:53 VanessaE        for modding, there are dozens of people anyway
18:53 VanessaE        if you really wanna try it, there:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=19702
18:54 whirm           VanessaE: I will, thanks :
18:54 whirm           :)
18:56 whirm           VanessaE: yeah, looks a *bit* better than the default one :D
18:56 VanessaE        anyway, what else did I miss while I was asleep?
18:57 VanessaE        hoo here come the thunderstorms..
18:57 RealBadAngel    hi vanessa
18:57 VanessaE        hey RBA
18:59 RealBadAngel    im here for just a moment
18:59 RealBadAngel    goin to take a nap
18:59 VanessaE        lazy ;)
18:59 RealBadAngel    tired
18:59 RealBadAngel    worked 9hrs today
19:00 RealBadAngel    just checkin whats up and will go to sleep
19:01 RealBadAngel    goin to wake up in 3-4 hours to set up realease
19:02 RealBadAngel    got almost everything done
19:02 RealBadAngel    need to clean it up and test for a while
19:02 RealBadAngel    actually found one bug already  hehehhehe
19:04 RealBadAngel    it involved machines internal energy buffer
19:07 RealBadAngel    once im done with the update i will comment the placing code
19:07 RealBadAngel    so you will be able to use it too
19:09 VanessaE        woo!
19:09 VanessaE        http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36867#p36867
19:10 VanessaE        signs with visible wording!
19:10 ecube           :D
19:10 ecube           how visible?
19:10 NakedFury       minecraft visible I suspect
19:10 ecube           eventually, mt will become opensource mc in c++ and lua mods
19:11 ecube           and no global auth system
19:11 VanessaE        visible as in the sign has text printed on it now
19:11 ecube           basically, mc without the greedyness
19:12 ecube           whoa that's pretty cool
19:12 ecube           are the signs 3d?
19:12 RealBadAngel    readable
19:12 RealBadAngel    lookim cool
19:13 ecube           it's better, it has 7 lines
19:13 ecube           but srsly, why 7? :o
19:13 sfan5           ecube: why does mc offer 4 lines?
19:13 RealBadAngel    6 wasnt just enough )
19:13 ecube           idk
19:13 ecube           why not, like, 8 lines? <3
19:13 RealBadAngel    7 is lucky number
19:13 ecube           seven's an odd number
19:13 ecube           nawwwww, 8 is the lucky number
19:13 sfan5           ecube: ask thexyz if he wants to change it
19:14 RealBadAngel    hehehe
19:14 ecube           I coudl try changing it
19:14 RealBadAngel    modders nature yelled lol
19:14 JamieWill       VanessaE: Have you herd from Emspri?
19:14 VanessaE        not recently
19:15 RealBadAngel    given 7 have to make eight P
19:15 VanessaE        he used to play on redcrab's server but I'm not online much lately so I don't know if he still does
19:15 ecube           what do you think about menche's server?
19:15 JamieWill       Whats happened to him and also the minetest.ru server Ok answer when im typing :]
19:16 ecube           are mintest.ru and menche's server all up?
19:16 thexyz          ecube: i prefer 7
19:16 thexyz          because there is line located at center of sign
19:16 ecube           ahhh
19:16 ecube           why not nine then? or 11?
19:16 RealBadAngel    21 !
19:16 RealBadAngel    make 21
19:17 thexyz          font'd look too tiny
19:17 ecube           true
19:17 NakedFury       7 is enough
19:17 RealBadAngel    hehehhe
19:17 ecube           I just hate prime numbers
19:17 * RealBadAngel  cryin out loud.... wanted 21....
19:17 JamieWill       2?
19:17 ecube           lol
19:17 ecube           NUU
19:18 ecube           do you have a ss on you editing a sign?
19:18 ecube           can signs be edited?
19:18 RealBadAngel    no theyre sculpted
19:18 thexyz          ecube: yes
19:18 RealBadAngel    take the hammer an sculpt letters
19:19 RealBadAngel    piece of cake, 7 lines in 2 hours
19:20 ecube           Alright then. What else do we need..
19:20 ecube           I coudl try making a big chest mod
19:20 RealBadAngel    hehehehehe
19:20 ecube           but chests are already huge
19:21 ecube           I coudl make them bigger <3
19:21 NakedFury       make single chest smaller
19:21 RealBadAngel    need idea?
19:21 NakedFury       double chests the current size
19:21 ecube           The main thing we really need now are particles and 3d mobs/players
19:21 RealBadAngel    make aura
19:21 ecube           and then it'll be perfect
19:21 NakedFury       ^
19:21 NakedFury       ad character slots
19:21 ecube           wut
19:21 NakedFury       and*
19:22 RealBadAngel    each chunk could have positive or negative aura
19:22 ecube           You could also add a skin field for when you login
19:22 NakedFury       character equipment space/slots
19:22 RealBadAngel    Vis and Taint
19:22 ecube           I don't think i'm going to do the 3d stuff
19:22 RealBadAngel    like in Thaumcraft mod
19:23 RealBadAngel    its not 3d at all
19:23 RealBadAngel    each chunk generates magic energy
19:23 RealBadAngel    which can be gained and stored
19:24 RealBadAngel    like a fluid
19:24 ecube           I'm going to see if I can implement client-side particles
19:24 RealBadAngel    with magic energy you could do well, magic :)
19:24 ecube           that would require a source mod though... ._. (feels nauseous)
19:25 RealBadAngel    think of giving each node a value
19:25 ecube           naw
19:25 ecube           NAW
19:25 ecube           that's TOO easy
19:25 RealBadAngel    rarer = higher value
19:25 ecube           all you have to do is spam the minetest.register_alias function in lua
19:26 RealBadAngel    and allow to transmute
19:26 ecube           what, like different colored wood panks?
19:26 ecube           *planks
19:26 RealBadAngel    1 gold = 500 cobble
19:26 RealBadAngel    1 mithril = 1000 cobble
19:26 ecube           not quite
19:26 RealBadAngel    example
19:27 RealBadAngel    could be calculated
19:27 RealBadAngel    throw many shit into transmutator
19:28 RealBadAngel    and take one diamond out of it
19:30 RealBadAngel    simply: make magic mod
19:31 eatingcube      there are diamonds? :O
19:31 RealBadAngel    yes
19:31 RealBadAngel    and have many uses
19:32 RealBadAngel    diamond saws, drawplates
19:32 RealBadAngel    with diamond saw you can cut materials into slabs
19:33 RealBadAngel    panels and covers
19:33 RealBadAngel    drawplates allows to create coils
19:34 RealBadAngel    with copper coils you can make motors
19:34 RealBadAngel    many machines will use them
19:34 eatingcube      lulz
19:36 JamieWill       is ther
19:37 RealBadAngel    ive added diamond to my technic mod
19:37 JamieWill       * is there any other channels about minetest
19:37 RealBadAngel    but not just for sake of havin cool lookin diamond
19:37 thexyz          JamieWill: what privs did you request?
19:37 RealBadAngel    i needed hard, tough material to cut metals
19:38 JamieWill       well i was looking for fly
19:38 RealBadAngel    and make tools to produce wires, coils
19:38 RealBadAngel    not another kind of pick
19:39 RealBadAngel    pick nr 66 is not my lovely kind of mod ;)
19:51 RealBadAngel    wheres sdzen
19:51 RealBadAngel    server is dead again
19:52 RealBadAngel    anyways its a biiiit to far away
19:52 RealBadAngel    im lookin for a server located in europe
19:52 _2cool4me4_     If only there was a way to go from Minecraft to Minetest in terms of maps, but that would involve some difficult hurdles...
19:53 RealBadAngel    playin with ping like 300ms prouces weird lags
19:53 whirm           does the minetest server consume much resources?
19:54 RealBadAngel    not really
19:54 whirm           do you have any numbers?
19:54 _2cool4me4_     Just don't host one on a wireless B network ;)
19:54 whirm           heh
19:54 RealBadAngel    single player game is also a server makin
19:55 RealBadAngel    with just one player
19:55 whirm           is it hard to find a permanently online server?
19:55 _2cool4me4_     Yes, actually
19:55 RealBadAngel    no there are many
19:55 thexyz          http://servers.minetest.ru/
19:55 whirm           ah, ok
19:55 _2cool4me4_     *nothing to do here*
19:56 RealBadAngel    i used to play on usa located server
19:56 RealBadAngel    and im from poland
19:56 _2cool4me4_     Ping: 1000 ms is not what you're going for :)
19:56 RealBadAngel    and found out that lags r too big
19:57 RealBadAngel    lookin for european one
19:57 whirm           if no body is up to it I might be able to set a permanent minetest server on one of my containers
19:58 RealBadAngel    where r u from?
19:58 whirm           spain
19:58 RealBadAngel    cool
19:58 whirm           but my servers are in france
19:58 RealBadAngel    can i ping you?
20:00 whirm           my servers?
20:00 RealBadAngel    yes
20:00 whirm           yes, try www.zenpl.com for example
20:00 RealBadAngel    would like to see the difference
20:00 RealBadAngel    ok
20:01 RealBadAngel    down
20:01 RealBadAngel    no response
20:02 RealBadAngel    94.23.84.203
20:02 RealBadAngel    registered but down
20:03 whirm           oh, the fascist firewall is filtering the pings...
20:03 RealBadAngel    shake those french folks, and make server on )
20:04 RealBadAngel    can u turn it off?
20:04 whirm           nope
20:04 RealBadAngel    so as ancient indians used to say: shit
20:05 whirm           maybe you can measure the time it takes to answer an http request :D
20:06 RealBadAngel    with firewall on im not sure if mt server would run
20:06 sfan5           bb
20:07 RealBadAngel    u have for sure open a port
20:07 RealBadAngel    like 30000
20:07 whirm           I can open any ports I want
20:08 RealBadAngel    lets test it then
20:08 whirm           that's not a problem
20:08 whirm           I can't now
20:08 RealBadAngel    why?
20:08 whirm           it's 22h here and I'm still working :(
20:08 whirm           let's try tomorrow ok?
20:08 RealBadAngel    its 22 here too
20:08 thexyz          whirm: it's hard to support "permanent" minetest server
20:08 thexyz          as it'll crash
20:08 eatingcube      often
20:09 RealBadAngel    poland its not so far away from spain ;)
20:09 thexyz          maybe not often
20:09 whirm           thexyz: while true; runserver.sh; done
20:09 whirm           *do runserver.sh
20:09 thexyz          lags'd increase as uptime pass..
20:09 whirm           :D
20:09 eatingcube      it's not that hard if you're on linux though
20:09 whirm           I can kill it every 24h or smth
20:09 thexyz          then it's not permanent
20:09 thexyz          anyway
20:09 RealBadAngel    well, since my box is already running 24/7
20:10 whirm           thexyz: it leaks memory?
20:10 thexyz          restarting it every day can be good idea
20:10 RealBadAngel    o, speakin of devil
20:10 thexyz          whirm: i think no
20:10 whirm           thexyz: the whole box?
20:10 thexyz          only minetest server, of course
20:10 whirm           ah
20:10 RealBadAngel    sdzen: can we talk priv?
20:10 whirm           so, how comes it gets slower over time?
20:11 thexyz          if only i knew..
20:11 thexyz          it just gets slower and slower...
20:11 thexyz          and then it fails to emerge players...
20:11 thexyz          scary things, yeah?
20:12 thexyz          teleports them back
20:12 whirm           do the devs know the reason? :)
20:12 thexyz          btw, don't you mind me adding your server to my monitoring site?
20:13 thexyz          i don't know
20:13 whirm           thexyz: when it's up I won't have any problem
20:18 whirm           ok, I'm going to bring some icecream to my gf before she overheats. See yoy all tomorrow, RealBadAngel: let's  make some tests tomorrow ok?
20:18 whirm           good night!
20:25 eatingcube      I should make an in-game block logger
20:26 VanessaE        you mean like for rollback?
20:28 thexyz          rollback is already implemented by c55
20:28 VanessaE        I was about to say, already exists in 0.4.2
20:28 Keegan_         anyone can help me how to set default privs?
20:29 JamieWill       what do you need to get sound and what is the link?
20:29 eatingcube      i was talking about like placing a block and having it pop back in your hand and telling you what changes occurred there
20:29 Keegan_         JamieWill search openal
20:30 NakedFury       I imagine it check an area around the cube?
20:30 NakedFury       like what happened in a 20x20 area around it?
20:30 JamieWill       I have it its for a friend i forgot
20:30 ecube           No, what happened in that particular area
20:30 JamieWill       eating cube lol
20:30 ecube           any node changes, metadata changes, etc.
20:30 VanessaE        ecube: nice idea actually.
20:31 ecube           but not my idea :P
20:31 thexyz          that's already implemented as rollback/logging
20:32 ecube           in lua or c++?
20:32 thexyz          in c++
20:32 ecube           ._.
20:34 Keegan_         how do you set default privs?
20:34 thexyz          but it seems to be able only to "check who has last touched a node or near it"
20:35 ecube           Keegan_: /set default_privs <default privileges separated by commas>
20:35 ecube           i think
20:35 ecube           well
20:35 ecube           whatever you use to set server variables
20:35 Keegan_         iis it perment
20:36 ecube           idk
20:36 thexyz          Keegan_: edit minetest.conf
20:36 ecube           ./set works too
20:36 thexyz          to make this setting permanent
20:36 Keegan_         ii did thexyz
20:36 thexyz          set is temporary one, it'll reset after restarting server
20:36 Keegan_         nothing works in the config
20:36 thexyz          then you're doing something wrong
20:37 thexyz          is config named minetest.conf? not minetest.conf.example
20:37 ecube           minetest.conf
20:37 Keegan_         its example
20:37 ecube           the example is an example
20:38 thexyz          Keegan_: you should rename it to minetest.conf
20:38 Keegan_         the other one is minetest.conf
20:38 ecube           In linux the data directory to put minetest.conf in is .minetest
20:38 ecube           what about other os's
20:38 ecube           ?
20:38 Keegan_         windows
20:39 pskosinski      Silent hill with squares. -.- Sometimes, with animal mod, it creates so strange maps, with mountains and corridors, I'm digging, made door, I'm sure that I'm alone and hear strange sounds. -.-
20:39 ecube           Well the point is, put minetest.conf into your data directory
20:39 Keegan_         so change it to minetest.conf
20:43 ecube           idk why, but the particles mod makes minetest feel at least five times more alive than it did before
20:44 khonkhortisan   particles and animated torches
20:45 VanessaE        :-)
20:45 * VanessaE      likes her animated torches mod. :-)
20:45 ecube           animated torches?
20:45 khonkhortisan   yes the fire moves around
20:46 VanessaE        ecube: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2132
20:46 VanessaE        that.
20:46 khonkhortisan   it looks wrong to have it not be animated
20:46 ecube           oh, i was just about to search it up lol
20:47 VanessaE        maybe people don't like my rendered 16px torches, but the 512px ones I use locally look *beautiful* :-)
20:47 Keegan_         have one problem
20:48 Keegan_         wait nevermind but can you use my server 0.4.2 r1 but can i use different version to go on it?
20:49 VanessaE        no you can't
20:49 VanessaE        0.4.2 is not compatible with prior versions
20:49 khonkhortisan   I'm trying to create rain. How do I get rid of this? "13:49:20: ERROR[main]: ServerEnv: Trying to store id=179 statically but block (-4,2,0) already contains 49 (over 49) objects. Forcing delete."
20:50 ecube           That's so common for me
20:50 ecube           I don't think it means much
20:50 ecube           is the rain successful?
20:50 Keegan_         you sure because menches is 0.4.2 r1 but i connect with 0.4.0
20:50 VanessaE        khonkhortisan: somehow you're leaving more than 49 raindrops inside a node.  turn up the rain rate but make them disappear faster as they hit the ground
20:50 thexyz          that means you use entities wrong
20:50 JamieWill       how do you post on the fourm?
20:50 Keegan_         you sure because menches is 0.4.2 r1 but i connect with 0.4.0
20:50 thexyz          you shouldn't use entities for creating rain (suggestion)
20:50 khonkhortisan   I thought it meant in a 16x16 cube
20:51 khonkhortisan   when it happens all the rain disappears
20:51 khonkhortisan   what should I use for rain?
20:52 khonkhortisan   the rain is successful in leaving flowing water on the ground and making streams
20:52 VanessaE        oh maybe it IS a mapblock
20:52 VanessaE        in which case you're screwed :-/
20:52 ecube           o.o
20:52 VanessaE        you'll have to find some way to implement it as a screen overlay
20:52 thexyz          khonkhortisan: i can't suggest anything =(
20:52 thexyz          but using entities seems to be too hacky for that
20:52 khonkhortisan   entities fall with acceleration
20:52 khonkhortisan   nodes don't
20:53 khonkhortisan   the particles mod uses entities, that's why I did
20:53 thexyz          khonkhortisan: do you use one entity for one raindrop?
20:53 khonkhortisan   yes, and one water_flowing when it hits
20:53 thexyz          at least, i can suggest using one entity for multiple raindrops
20:55 Keegan_         brb
20:55 Keegan_         opps wrong thing
20:55 ecube           for a lot of raindrops to create water_flowing would be more realistic... try doing one entity is about 20 raindrops or so
21:02 NakedFury       add water catching item
21:03 ecube           yay i'm finally getting a few fps drops in minetest :D
21:04 Keegan_         what is the name for the config file?
21:04 khonkhortisan   is there anything else besides nodes and luaentities?
21:05 ecube           minetset.conf
21:05 ecube           *minetest.conf
21:05 Keegan_         i did that
21:05 Keegan_         there should be two of those?
21:06 ecube           no
21:06 ecube           have you edited auth.txt before?
21:06 Keegan_         what is the other one name?
21:06 ecube           minetest.conf.example?
21:06 Keegan_         yes the auth.txt
21:06 Keegan_         do i delete that one?
21:06 ecube           no
21:06 ecube           from auth.txt, go....
21:06 ecube           wait
21:07 ecube           do you know where debug.txt is?
21:07 Keegan_         can i delete it?
21:07 ecube           delete what?
21:07 Keegan_         second config file
21:07 ecube           auth.txt?
21:07 ecube           auth.txt isn't the second config file
21:07 Keegan_         nevermiind
21:08 ecube           wait, what are you trying to do? :o
21:08 Keegan_         set default privs
21:08 RealBadAngel    ecube: lookin for a fps drop?
21:08 ecube           Realbadangel: no
21:08 RealBadAngel    i can provide you one
21:08 ecube           keegan: do you know where auth.txt is?
21:09 ecube           ralbadangel: please don't ._.
21:09 Keegan_         yes ecube
21:09 RealBadAngel    hehhee
21:09 ecube           ok
21:09 RealBadAngel    take HD TP
21:09 ecube           go down one directory
21:09 ecube           and you should see all the worlds you have
21:09 ecube           and go down another directory
21:10 ecube           that is where you should put your minetest.conf
21:10 Keegan_         by the auth.txt
21:10 Keegan_         ??
21:10 ecube           no
21:10 ecube           up two directories
21:11 Keegan_         n the world folder?
21:11 ecube           up again
21:11 Keegan_         textures?
21:11 ecube           if you list the contents of THAT directory, you should see debug.txt
21:11 ecube           noo
21:11 ecube           I mean UP
21:11 ecube           not click on another direcotry
21:11 ecube           go to the parent directory
21:12 Keegan_         where it says bin?
21:12 ecube           bin?
21:12 Keegan_         at the top
21:12 ecube           is there a debug.txt?
21:12 Keegan_         yea there is a debug in there
21:12 ecube           ok
21:12 ecube           put your minetest.conf there
21:13 Keegan_         ok
21:13 Keegan_         if my server blows up its your fault
21:13 ecube           is there already one there? :o
21:13 ecube           is there already one there? :o
21:13 Keegan_         no
21:13 Keegan_         put it in there?
21:13 ecube           sure
21:15 ecube           damn signs keep glitching up ._.
21:15 khonkhortisan   if only I could have it stop raining when there's no clouds above me
21:16 ecube           lol
21:16 ecube           rain without clouds
21:17 sdzen           its possible
21:17 sdzen           if there are clouds nearby
21:17 sdzen           and a good wind
21:17 ecube           there isn't wind in minetest
21:18 khonkhortisan   I like when it's rainy and sunny at the same time
21:18 ecube           RAINBOWS
21:18 ecube           ,3
21:18 khonkhortisan   there could be wind, just replace the papyrus and leaves with animated versions
21:18 ecube           forget papyrus
21:18 ecube           it's too papyrusy
21:18 khonkhortisan   it makes a good curtain
21:21 Keegan_         it still dont work
21:22 ecube           o.o
21:22 ecube           Well
21:23 ecube           did you do default_privs = fast,interact,shout (or whatever you want your default privs to be) in minetest.conf?
21:23 ecube           because it has to be in there
21:24 ecube           omg flowing lava
21:26 ecube           torches cause fire ftw
21:27 ecube           nvm
21:27 ecube           keegan doesn't it work now?
21:28 ecube           uh, keegan?
21:32 ecube           <i think i might have made minetest crash his computer>
21:33 Keegan_         no i had to eat
21:33 Keegan_         plus its on a different computer
21:33 VanessaE        and did you remember to take the # out?
21:33 Keegan_         yea
21:33 Keegan_         and i readd
21:34 Keegan_         nothing works for me
21:35 VanessaE        then you're either editing the wrong file or you're typing your options in wrong
21:35 VanessaE        are you editing minetest.conf  or minetest.conf.example
21:35 VanessaE        ?
21:35 Keegan_         did default_privs = fast,shout
21:35 Keegan_         minetest.conf
21:36 Keegan_         twhere do i put the mnetest.config file?
21:36 VanessaE        in your minetest install folder
21:36 VanessaE        same place where mods, textures, worlds go
21:36 VanessaE        same place where mods, textures, worlds *folders* go I mean
21:36 ecube           that's weird
21:37 VanessaE        in linux that would be ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
21:37 ecube           because the mods and textures go in a place different from where the worlds go
21:37 Keegan_         ecube told me to put it n the bin folder
21:37 VanessaE        ecube: not on linux :-)
21:37 ecube           NUUU
21:37 ecube           I didn't tell you to put it in the bin foldier
21:37 ecube           I told you to put it two directories up from where auth.txt is
21:37 VanessaE        "foldier"...is that a folder that's been folded more than once? ;-)
21:37 Keegan_         thats in the world folder
21:38 Keegan_         ?
21:38 ecube           ok, you know the directory that has all the world folders in it?
21:38 ecube           like, you have one directory for each world you have
21:39 khonkhortisan   don't piss off the unknown block http://youtu.be/ofxu8XTVwxc
21:39 ecube           once that crashed my server... so yes, I know that.
21:39 ecube           not to piss off the unknown block, i mean
21:39 UnknownBlock    im pissed off :P
21:40 khonkhortisan   haha
21:40 Keegan_         theres bin mods docs textures bultin cache games world folers
21:41 RealBadAngel    no worries then ;)
21:41 Keegan_         theres bin mods docs textures bultin cache games world folers
21:41 Keegan_         which one do i put it in
21:42 ecube           put it in the directory all those directorys are in
21:42 Keegan_         lke when you fist open the minetest folder?
21:42 ecube           yep
21:42 ecube           btw, the mods folder doesn't work
21:44 Keegan_         for what?
21:45 ecube           you do'nt put mods in the mods folder
21:45 Keegan_         why
21:45 ecube           have you done it before?
21:45 Keegan_         yea
21:45 ecube           did it work?
21:45 Keegan_         yes
21:46 ecube           strange
21:46 ecube           for me, it goes into games/<game name>/mods/
21:46 ecube           in the default case, games/minetest_game/mods/
21:46 Keegan_         you tried the mods?
21:46 Keegan_         folder
21:46 ecube           yea
21:47 Keegan_         dd it work
21:47 ecube           no
21:47 * RealBadAngel  is offline. sleeping
21:47 ecube           why do you think i said strange when you said it worked?
21:48 Keegan_         can ii use a 0.4.2 r1 server but on a different computer client 0.4.0
21:48 VanessaE        I already told you no, keegan.
21:48 VanessaE        0.4.2 is NOT compatible with anything previous.
21:48 ecube           wait, does the minetest.conf thing work now?
21:48 Keegan_         on menche its 0.4.1 but i use 0.4 client
21:48 Keegan_         ecube no
21:49 Keegan_         when  download 0.4.2 r1 it gets corrupted
21:50 ecube           hm
21:50 ecube           wait, i have an idea
21:50 ecube           keegan, make your minetest foler read-only
21:50 ecube           *folder
21:50 ecube           and start and stop minetest
21:50 ecube           from your terminal
21:51 Keegan_         ok
21:51 Keegan_         my server s off of commands
21:52 Keegan_         ??
21:53 JamieWill       Van can u help me?
21:53 ecube           ???
21:53 Keegan_         my server is off of commands
21:54 Keegan_         but in theminetest.config there s a strict protrol tool= false
21:54 JamieWill       does that mean any version can join?
21:54 Keegan_         yea
21:54 JamieWill       so have it false?
21:54 Keegan_         yes
21:54 Keegan_         you have 0.4.2
21:55 Keegan_         ??
21:56 Keegan_         anyone have 0.4.2 r1
21:56 khonkhortisan   abms are so slow!
21:57 xorius          Have a mob's in minitest?
21:57 JamieWill       yes
21:57 xorius          O_O
21:57 JamieWill       no to xor
21:57 JamieWill       but can get mod
21:57 xorius          oh, sorry
21:58 xorius          it's a boring(
21:58 Keegan_         found out why the client gets corrupted?
21:59 xorius          and i cant craft with MESE
21:59 xorius          thats a mod?
22:00 Keegan_         ecube whats your server version
22:00 Keegan_         ?
22:02 ecube           0.4.x
22:04 Keegan_         pm me when you fiquered it out
22:12 KeeganIsAway    tell me on the forums f you found out the problem
22:14 khonkhortisan   minetest.env:remove_node(pos) doesn't seem to work inside on_timer = function(pos, elapsed)
22:16 khonkhortisan   removing the node in on_construct works, a print statement proves on_timer is being called, but I can't remove the node from the timer function
22:18 * khonkhortisan is confused
22:19 khonkhortisan   I think I found a bug
22:24 JamieWill       my server post on the forums has like 35 views up tonight!
22:26 RealBadAngel    use on_destruct
22:26 RealBadAngel    node will be destroyed
22:27 RealBadAngel    an you will take care bout post action
22:33 khonkhortisan   I didn't know I could call on_destruct
22:41 * mrtux         is away: eating supper
22:46 NekoGloop       Hi :P
22:47 NekoGloop       Anyone here?
22:51 JamieWill       yeh
22:52 NekoGloop       Wanna try my mods, jamiewill? One adds some blocks and tools and the other adds some more ores.
22:53 JamieWill       yeh ill give em a go on my server what vrsion fr
22:54 NekoGloop       It's tested on 0.4.2-rc1, but should work all the way back to i believe the one that added sound.
22:55 NekoGloop       I dont think i can get on the forums atm, my ipad sucks for the forums. One should be in mod releases and the other in modding general. GloopBlocks and GloopOres.
22:56 GTRsdk          hey NekoGloop
22:56 NekoGloop       Hello gtrsdk
22:56 VanessaE        warning, neko's tools are evil ;-)
22:57 NekoGloop       Well duh, that's why they're EVIL tools :P
22:57 GTRsdk          I tried gloopores.zip
22:57 GTRsdk          is the gloopblocks in a different file, or is it just not working on 0.4.1?
22:57 NekoGloop       Gloopblocks is in mod releases
22:58 NekoGloop       Second page
22:59 * mrtux         is back (gone 00:18:10)
22:59 NekoGloop       Both should work in 0.4.1, but i havent tested anything other than 0.4.2-rc1. Your help will be appreciated. :3
23:01 JamieWill       how evil?
23:01 NekoGloop       Evil to the point of almost instantly breaking the block you hit ;)
23:01 NekoGloop       But breaking fast.
23:03 JamieWill       I have 2 new mods WillBlocks and WillOres
23:04 NekoGloop       Lol
23:04 JamieWill       lol]=]=]=]
23:04 NekoGloop       Gloopblocks for GTRsdk: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2650
23:06 NekoGloop       Gloopores for anyone: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2734
23:08 NekoGloop       You can eat one of the ores in gloopores :P
23:09 NekoGloop       Also makes iron and coal generate in desert stone, if that makes you jump to click it :P
23:10 NekoGloop       One of them also only generates above 0y.
23:14 NekoGloop       So who likes it?
23:17 JamieWill       which
23:18 NekoGloop       Either or both
23:24 NekoGloop       As the channel dies again
23:25 GTRsdk          so wait... if I got from http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36845#p36845, then what did I get?
23:28 NekoGloop       A .zip containing gloopores. Have you used mods before?
23:29 NekoGloop       Unzip it in ~/mods/minetest, no editing needed.
23:38 NekoGloop       And it's dead again.
23:42 NekoGloop       So what do you think, JamieWill and GTRsdk?
23:49 NekoGloop       Wb bloodbyfire :3
23:49 NekoGloop       So, vanessae, what are you working on?
23:56 NekoGloop       People are flying out of this channel...