Time Nick Message 00:29 Tekk_ Jousway: so basically, talk in the channel 01:22 servvs I was wondering about compiling this game from source. Do I need to place the minetest_game directory inside of the minetest directory to compile? 01:23 Tekk_ nope 01:23 Tekk_ compiling is separate from instlalling the game 01:25 servvs hmm 01:25 servvs well there are 2 different sources on the github 01:25 servvs minetest and mintest_game 01:25 Tekk_ yes 01:25 Tekk_ minetest is the engine 01:25 Tekk_ it's in C++ 01:25 servvs so I compile both of them seperately? 01:26 Tekk_ minetest_game is the game itself, in lua 01:26 Tekk_ nope, no compiling for minetest_game 01:26 GTRsdk servvs: you only compile minetest 01:26 Tekk_ you just drop it in games/ once you're done compiling 01:26 servvs oh I see 01:27 servvs and is there any information on server side modding with lua 01:28 Tekk_ look on the wiki and lua_api.txt in git 01:28 servvs ok, thanks Tekk_ 01:30 NakedFury Minetest is an engine that is written in C+. To make games for this engine you use Lua. Lua thankfully doesnt need any compiling to run, just download and place in folder. 01:31 Tekk_ NakedFury: though you can compile if you want :P 01:31 Tekk_ no speed boost though 01:34 servvs just compile for obfuscation I assume? 01:34 Tekk_ it saves on startup time a little bit 01:35 Tekk_ that way lua doesn't have to compile it on load 01:41 servvs yeah it compiled jsut fine, but I get this error 01:41 servvs Need running XServer to start Irrlicht Engine. 01:41 servvs Could not open display, set DISPLAY variable 01:41 servvs Segmentation fault (core dumped) 01:41 servvs actually 01:41 servvs that makes total sense now that I think about it, as I am running it on my server 01:41 servvs without x installed, woops 01:42 GTRsdk servvs: or do --server 01:43 servvs yeah, I also have the minetestserver bin too 01:43 GTRsdk okay 01:43 * GTRsdk just uses ./minetest --server --port 30000 01:43 servvs now, after i build and run it, where can I find the configuration file? 01:44 GTRsdk configuration file? 01:44 GTRsdk like... for how the game runs and plays? 01:44 servvs yeah 01:44 GTRsdk you'd be modifying that in games/mods 01:44 GTRsdk though I'm not sure if that's what you are looking for... 01:45 GTRsdk because that woudl be where you'd set stuff like mining with hand, or water burning furnaces 01:47 servvs yeah, I'm looking for where I set game variables 01:47 servvs like the example.conf but where is it generated to ocne you run? 02:11 servvs so anyone know where I can find the minetest.conf? or does it have anything to do with the server? 02:11 Tekk_ you don't need a minetest.conf 02:12 servvs ah 02:12 Tekk_ there's a sample one in the git though 02:12 servvs so its useless for servers though? 02:12 GTRsdk I think it is 02:12 GTRsdk but for game variables, you'd then have to modify minetest_game 02:14 servvs looks like some good stuff in here for the minetest.conf for servers 02:15 servvs so basically I will just need to include it in my command to launch, to load the conf 02:18 servvs how would I set myself as the operator of the server so that I can run all commands? 02:24 servvs so is everyone still running 0.4.1 or most people running 0.4.2? 02:53 servvs so I used this argument cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 02:53 servvs to make it so I can package it as a .deb, but how exactly do I go about doing that? 03:00 Tekk_ well the first step would be to go on the debian wiki to find out how to do packaging :) 03:01 VanessaE there's an easier way 03:01 VanessaE use checkinstall :-) 03:05 servvs so will I still use cmake instead of make? 03:05 VanessaE cmake just sets up the environment 03:05 VanessaE after you run that, then run: make -j2 03:06 VanessaE (change the 2 to however many cores/CPUs you have, times two. so 12 for 6 cores) 03:06 servvs oh, I see 03:06 VanessaE THAT is the actual compile step 03:06 servvs so basically my command to make a deb with checkinstall would be 03:06 servvs sudo checkinstall make -j8 03:06 VanessaE once that's done, checkinstall --fstrans=no 03:07 VanessaE no, 03:07 VanessaE just do the cmake line, then the make -j__ line, then checkinstall as I just wrote 03:07 VanessaE the make -j__ step does the compile, checkinstall does the actual install and builds a .deb of the result also 03:08 servvs so since I have already compiled can I just go ahead and run the checkinstall command? 03:08 VanessaE be sure you answer the questions checkinstall asks of you accurately, like the package name (minetestc55), version (0.4.2-rc1), etc. 03:08 VanessaE you already ran the make -j__ step? 03:08 servvs yeah 03:08 VanessaE ok 03:08 VanessaE then just run checkinstall :-) 03:09 servvs awesome, ty VanessaE 03:09 VanessaE you're welcome 03:09 VanessaE the above procedure is what I use when I do a new compile (unless I'm just testing) 03:09 VanessaE (in which case I use run-in-place builds) 03:10 servvs so for description anything is fine really right? 03:10 VanessaE yeah 03:10 VanessaE I usually copy&paste from the main website's front page 03:11 VanessaE "Minetest is an infinite-world block sandbox game and a game engine, inspired by InfiniMiner, Minecraft and the like. It has been in development and use since October 2010." 03:11 VanessaE etc. 03:11 servvs so for maintainer, who should I put? dont want to take credit for someone elses work 03:11 VanessaE that's you. 03:11 servvs oh 03:11 VanessaE the "maintainer" refers to the person who built the package. 03:11 servvs I see 03:14 servvs what should I set the group to? 03:14 Tekk_ games, probably 03:14 VanessaE I just leave the other stuff alone usually 03:29 servvs so would i need to run this as su? 03:29 VanessaE yes 03:29 VanessaE it builds and installs the package 03:29 servvs so how do I get the archive out of it? 03:29 VanessaE it'll drop a .deb in the minetest directory. 03:29 servvs but only if it installs? 03:29 VanessaE not sure - I always let it install 03:30 servvs and as in the minetest directory, do you mean the directory that the source is in? 03:30 VanessaE yes 03:30 servvs ok thanks VanessaE 03:30 VanessaE celeron55-minetest-blahblah/minetestc55-0.4.2-blahblah.deb 03:31 VanessaE (depending on the name you gave in the checkinstall config screen) 03:33 servvs and the name will be the package name right? 03:33 VanessaE part of it, yeah 03:33 servvs so something simpler than celeron55-minetest-0.4.2-rc1 would be better or should I leave that as it is? 03:33 VanessaE the name, version, release number, and a couple other bits 03:33 VanessaE it's safe to leave the final .deb named however checkinstall makes it 03:34 VanessaE as long as the filename has all the most important info: name, version, release, arch 03:36 servvs thanks again VanessaE, i have never known how to make a package for distribution 03:36 VanessaE it's pretty easy once you've done it once or twice 03:37 VanessaE checkinstall should be on every UNIX and Linux system by default :-) 03:37 VanessaE it should be tossed in there with build-essential or so 03:37 servvs apparently its on ubuntu 12.04 03:37 servvs so now I need to change the user of the package, lol 03:38 VanessaE it's in the repos, but I recall having to install it separately. might be wrong though :-) 03:38 servvs maybe I installed it without realizing it 03:39 servvs awesome 03:39 servvs made my first package 03:39 servvs lol 03:39 VanessaE w00t :-) 03:39 servvs I'm excited 03:41 servvs now to test the package 03:41 VanessaE WAIT! NO, NOT THAT BUTTON!! 03:42 VanessaE *air raid siren* 03:42 servvs hmm 03:42 servvs says the package is of bad quality 03:42 VanessaE bad? 03:42 VanessaE how so? 03:42 servvs E: minetestc55: wrong-file-owner-uid-or-gid home/servvs/ 1000/1000 03:42 servvs E: minetestc55: wrong-file-owner-uid-or-gid home/servvs/celeron55-minetest-0.4.2-rc1-0gd38b465/ 1000/1000 03:43 VanessaE did you remember to let it exclude the files it asked you to exclude? 03:43 servvs yeah 03:43 servvs I can manually delete those frmo the deb though right? 03:43 VanessaE "some files were created in the source dir, list? y/n" "shall I exclude? y/n" 03:43 VanessaE etc 03:43 VanessaE not sure how 03:43 RealBadAngel morning 03:44 VanessaE but probably so, if you know how to remove then cleanly 03:44 RealBadAngel have you made it as admin? 03:44 VanessaE wait a sec here, 03:44 VanessaE home/servvs/celeron55-minetest-0.4.2-rc1-0gd38b465/ <-- you're working against a not-run-in-place (system-wide) build, yes? 03:45 VanessaE RealBadAngel: admin? me? 03:45 RealBadAngel first sudo than compile 03:45 RealBadAngel he 03:45 VanessaE oh 03:45 RealBadAngel he propably tried to compile without admin rights 03:45 VanessaE you don't need admin rights to compile. 03:45 VanessaE only to install. 03:45 RealBadAngel not quite sure 03:45 VanessaE I am sure :-) 03:46 VanessaE I do this all the time :-) 03:46 servvs working against, what do you mean? 03:46 VanessaE servvs: you *did* do cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 right? 03:46 servvs the package installs just fine though, and removes just fine too 03:46 RealBadAngel so why wrong owner? 03:46 VanessaE oh ok 03:46 servvs yes I did VanessaE 03:46 VanessaE so you just need to nuke a couple extra files then 03:46 servvs so find those files and just remove them before I package it up? 03:46 VanessaE yeah 03:46 servvs k 03:46 servvs can do 03:47 VanessaE checkinstall shoulda asked you if you wanted to exclude those also. kinda surprised :-) 03:47 servvs the thing is, there is no file named that 03:48 VanessaE but whatever, as long as they-- 03:48 VanessaE wait, 03:48 servvs the install manifest 03:48 servvs install_manifest 03:48 VanessaE you didn't cd .. out of the source dir before you ran checkinstall did you? 03:48 servvs no 03:48 servvs but the source directory is in my home folder 03:48 VanessaE *nod* 03:48 VanessaE that's normal; it shouldn't be trying to include those into the package 03:49 servvs I see 03:49 servvs I will build the package again 03:49 VanessaE nuke the whole tree 03:49 servvs what do you mean? 03:49 VanessaE re-download minetest/minetest_game and start from scratch 03:50 servvs k 03:50 VanessaE evening BoldCoder 03:51 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi 03:51 OldCoder I was only Bold briefly 03:51 VanessaE heh 03:51 OldCoder OldCoder 03:52 VanessaE servvs: if all else fails, you can pass --exclude=[pattern] to checkinstall I guess 03:53 VanessaE (I assume it's = but the man page isn't clear about it) 03:54 servvs I thinkt he reason is 03:54 servvs because I did -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 03:54 servvs once before, and then redid the cmake 03:54 VanessaE oops! 03:54 VanessaE that might be the cause, though I doubt it 03:55 VanessaE still, let's see how the second attempt does 03:55 servvs so if I have a core i7 with 4 cores on 8 threads, should I use make -j16 or 8? 03:56 VanessaE j16 I'd say 03:56 VanessaE the idea is to totally saturate your CPU 03:57 VanessaE use that bastard to its fullest :-) 03:57 servvs wow, last time I built it it took about 5 minutes, this time its already done 03:57 VanessaE nice huh 03:58 servvs it is, didn't realize that the -j2 was one processor 03:58 servvs lol 03:58 VanessaE and yet, gentoo still takes 3 days to install even on 4- and 6-core bastards like ours :-) 03:58 servvs haha 03:58 VanessaE -j2 means "two threads", which is enough to saturate one core usually 03:58 servvs so 16 threads is enough to saturate 8 logical cores? 03:59 VanessaE should be 03:59 VanessaE hell -j8 might be enough even 03:59 VanessaE I'm a little unclear on how hyperthreading works 03:59 servvs and here I was thinking that having quad and 6 core processors was pointless, it makes compiling times exponentially better 03:59 VanessaE (or whatever they call it now) 04:00 VanessaE oh no, there are uses for all those cores :-) 04:01 VanessaE the problem is all the single-threaded software out there 04:01 VanessaE stuff that should, in theory at least, be able to spread itself over multiple cores ends up pegging one and giving you a quarter of the performance your machine should get. 04:04 RealBadAngel how to give fly privs in single player? 04:04 VanessaE /grant singleplayer all 04:04 RealBadAngel ty 04:04 VanessaE (or fly,fast instead of all) 04:06 RealBadAngel ok, recording now ;) 04:07 VanessaE RealBadAngel: *waits for update* 04:10 RealBadAngel made all placing routines 04:11 RealBadAngel producing video right now 04:11 VanessaE col 04:11 VanessaE cool 04:11 RealBadAngel to-do is reversal 04:11 RealBadAngel to update when removed 04:12 VanessaE with wires that makes sense, but you know? with pipes maybe not so much; maybe only update when a new pipe is placed? 04:12 RealBadAngel hmmm depends 04:12 RealBadAngel i think its also needed 04:13 VanessaE I mean, in the real world if you wanna get rid of a T-junction after removing a branch, you tear out the branch and the t junction and replace it with a bend or straight pipe or whatever 04:13 VanessaE with wires, you just cut the bastards ;-) 04:13 RealBadAngel without it when you make wrong turn you will be forced to remove not just one piece but piece before too 04:13 VanessaE mm...maybe you're right 04:14 servvs so for excluding VanessaE 04:14 servvs should I do checkinstall --fstrans=no --exclude /path/file.name? 04:14 VanessaE I think --exclude=/path/filename 04:15 servvs oh ok thanks 04:15 servvs will try without first, then if it doesn't work will try with excluding 04:15 VanessaE (since everything else is =yes or =no) 04:15 VanessaE right 04:15 servvs Should I create a default set of package docs? 04:15 VanessaE see how it behaves by default; you might even be able to get by without --ftrans 04:15 servvs last time I said yes 04:15 VanessaE er without --fstrans 04:16 VanessaE I started using --fstrans=no a year or two back when a package failed to build without it. Something about files not actually being present during the install 04:16 servvs I see 04:16 servvs so should I say yes to that first question? 04:16 RealBadAngel shit,made 100mb video, gonna take a while to upload it ;) 04:16 VanessaE (as I understand it, without --fstrans, checkinstall installs live, with =no it uses a sandbox) 04:17 VanessaE servvs: keep the --fstrans=no for now. 04:17 servvs ok 04:17 VanessaE for that one, =yes is equivalent to just omitting the switch entirely. 04:17 servvs this is what I am asking for though, lol 04:17 servvs The package documentation directory ./doc-pak does not exist. 04:17 servvs Should I create a default set of package docs? [y]: 04:17 VanessaE yes 04:17 servvs ok 04:17 servvs sorry 04:17 VanessaE ask away 04:18 VanessaE you can't learn without having answers to learn from :-) 04:18 VanessaE (and telling people to JFGI bugs me to no end) 04:24 RealBadAngel @VanessaE: http://realbadangel.pl/wires.lua 04:24 RealBadAngel you can take a look on placin routines 04:24 RealBadAngel theyer at the end of file 04:25 servvs yeah so its still there 04:26 leo_rockway minetoon O.O 04:26 leo_rockway also, anybody using irontrees? 04:27 VanessaE leo: I don't use them, but the mod that generates them is part of my standard set of mods (nature pack in particular) 04:27 leo_rockway VanessaE: they are not generating well 04:27 VanessaE RealBadAngel: *looks at code* you, sir, are fucking insane :-) 04:27 RealBadAngel lol 04:27 RealBadAngel why? 04:27 leo_rockway VanessaE: the trunks are always 1 node tall. 04:28 VanessaE this is genius. needs some comments btw 04:28 VanessaE leo_rockway: same for me 04:28 RealBadAngel will do that later 04:28 VanessaE I didn't write the irontrees code :-) 04:28 leo_rockway they are more like ironbushes, hehe. 04:28 leo_rockway VanessaE: I thought so. 04:28 RealBadAngel for me its clear enough tho ;) 04:29 VanessaE I just package it up with bushes and etc, to work with my changes to flowers. 04:30 leo_rockway I'm ready for some real mobs... o.o 04:30 VanessaE animals has rudimentary 3d mobs now :-) 04:31 leo_rockway the enemies are too dumb to be challenging. 04:31 VanessaE heh 04:32 leo_rockway I don't care much for 3D. The things that gambit is doing look great, but I'm okay with 2d sprites too. 04:32 leo_rockway as long as they attack and pursue 04:32 leo_rockway seek and destroy! \m/ 04:33 servvs VanessaE, it worked :D 04:34 RealBadAngel 10min to upload video 04:34 VanessaE cool, servvs :-) 04:34 RealBadAngel i hate asynced connections 04:34 RealBadAngel i can download 10mb/s and upload 128kb/s 04:35 VanessaE eek 04:35 VanessaE 12/384 here I think 04:36 RealBadAngel it sucks 04:36 RealBadAngel uploading 100mb vid takes half an hour 04:37 servvs cant you make the vid smaller? 04:40 servvs okay so i'm still getting the bad quality thing 04:40 servvs E: minetestc55: maintainer-name-missing servus.malus@gmail.com 04:40 servvs does it need to be name:email@email.com? 04:40 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: 384 and 32... except my 384 never happens... 04:40 VanessaE delete the .deb, re-run checkinstall :-) 04:40 leo_rockway I've been doing about 50KB/s lately :S 04:40 VanessaE the usual format I see everywhere is: Your Name 04:41 VanessaE but that may not be the case here 04:41 servvs i tried it as servvs email@gmail.com 04:41 servvs does it need 2 names? 04:41 RealBadAngel i could but always want to text to be readable 04:42 RealBadAngel when compressed more it is not so clear 04:42 VanessaE servvs: it may need your real name or something that looks like it 04:42 servvs ok 04:42 servvs i'll do servus malus servus.malus@gmail.com 04:42 RealBadAngel 95% now 04:43 RealBadAngel ok, ladies and gentelman... 04:44 RealBadAngel here we go 04:44 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQOSmgTUp8 04:44 VanessaE woohoo! *clicks* 04:45 leo_rockway oh, you're wire guy! 04:45 VanessaE NICE! 04:45 leo_rockway I watched a video like this last night 04:46 * VanessaE waits for a version using pipes ;-) 04:46 RealBadAngel you havent 04:46 RealBadAngel uploaded it just 04:46 VanessaE this is beautiful, RealBadAngel 04:46 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: not this one, similar to this one. 04:46 leo_rockway it was a straight line. 04:46 RealBadAngel yeah 04:46 VanessaE leo_rockway: that was a preview of the preview :-) 04:47 RealBadAngel this is for all directions 04:47 RealBadAngel it means placing routines are 100% done 04:47 leo_rockway =] 04:47 VanessaE RealBadAngel: suggest: 04:47 RealBadAngel yes? 04:47 VanessaE make the "wire stub" that you place initially (and which you weild) a little longer 04:48 VanessaE like half the length of a full wire 04:48 VanessaE it'll make it more clear what it does 04:48 leo_rockway but what about mesecons... 04:48 leo_rockway o.o 04:48 RealBadAngel i will add wield_image 04:48 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: I think you're doing a great job. 04:48 VanessaE well I mean just tweak the nodebox for it 04:48 VanessaE this is nice 04:49 RealBadAngel i dont care bout mesecons 04:49 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: I haven't even tried mesecons. 04:49 RealBadAngel this is not to replace mesecons at all 04:49 leo_rockway I know, I know, I read the thread. Hence, the trollface... 04:49 RealBadAngel :P 04:49 * VanessaE just contributed some nice nodeboxes and textures to mesecons yesterday 04:50 RealBadAngel i will made later today update_when_removed 04:50 RealBadAngel and then some textures for new objects 04:50 RealBadAngel and will upload mod update 04:51 RealBadAngel with an easter egg inside 04:51 VanessaE speak of the devil! 04:51 RealBadAngel hehehe 04:51 VanessaE Jeija: your timing is incredible 04:51 RealBadAngel hi jeija 04:51 RealBadAngel take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQOSmgTUp8 04:51 Jeija y? what were you doing? hi everyone 04:51 leo_rockway hello Jeija 04:51 Jeija I saw that video yesterday already, RealBadAngel 04:52 RealBadAngel nope 04:52 VanessaE Jeija: I just mentioned the stuff I pushed to mesecons; RealBadAngel has a beautiful wire placement algorithm that you might want to look at 04:52 Jeija oh just a similar one 04:52 VanessaE no, this video is new - just out today 04:52 VanessaE this is a preview, yesterday's was a preview of the preview ;-) 04:53 RealBadAngel jeija: and the code: http://realbadangel.pl/wires.lua 04:54 Jeija If you do electricity, are you also planning to use - and + pole or ignore that? 04:54 RealBadAngel ignore 04:54 RealBadAngel would be to much complicated 04:54 VanessaE it would be easy to simulate though 04:54 VanessaE texture the "wires" to look like a pair of side-by-side wires 04:55 RealBadAngel not when folks are allowed to remove nodes all the time 04:55 RealBadAngel it would much time consuming i think 04:55 Jeija yes, of course 04:56 RealBadAngel i could make it right according to kirchoff's and ohm's laws 04:56 RealBadAngel but 04:56 RealBadAngel who would care? 04:56 Jeija Are you going to add in real electronic parts (like resistor...) or just machines? 04:56 RealBadAngel by now just machines 04:56 RealBadAngel dont need anything more in fact 04:57 RealBadAngel you should care bout logic parts 04:57 Jeija k, I mean Ohm's law is unnecessary, but Kirchhoff's is quite easy and logic 04:57 RealBadAngel but not needed 04:57 VanessaE Jeija: I'm thinking of making nodebox-based mesecons wires. interested? 04:57 VanessaE wouldn't work with raillike draw styles, such would have to be emulated 04:58 RealBadAngel i take whole circuit,all connected power sources 04:58 RealBadAngel all connected power receivers 04:58 RealBadAngel and storage 04:58 Jeija that would be a lot too much coding whithout making them look too different 04:58 RealBadAngel and calculate used/stored/produced over time 04:58 VanessaE Jeija: also, RealBadAngel's code uses that "build a wire node out of stubs" style like I mentioned to you a while back :-) 04:59 RealBadAngel since it auto updates itself 04:59 RealBadAngel when you break a node 05:00 RealBadAngel it will simply split into 2 circuits 05:00 Jeija A mesecon nodebox wire would require more than 20 node definitions (different nodeboxes) which is far too complicated 05:00 VanessaE nono 05:00 RealBadAngel i use 64 05:00 VanessaE you can rotate nodeboxes now 05:00 RealBadAngel with this code :P 05:01 servvs okay so it finally worked 05:01 RealBadAngel auto generate them for me 05:01 Jeija but you still need different node definitions for each of them 05:01 servvs now i'm happy 05:01 RealBadAngel look at the code :) 05:01 RealBadAngel its quite simple 05:01 VanessaE 1 nodebox for a straight wire, three for a bend, four for a T-junction, 5 for a crossing. 05:01 VanessaE 13 nodeboxes tops. 05:02 VanessaE shit, that leaves out the sloped lines 05:02 RealBadAngel my wires are self-sustained 05:02 VanessaE and the on/off state :-) 05:02 RealBadAngel so more connections possible then 05:02 VanessaE ok, I'll shut up for now ;-) 05:02 RealBadAngel with wires placed on node sides there will be even less possibilities 05:03 Jeija That many node definitions may just crash minetest 05:03 RealBadAngel 64k 05:03 RealBadAngel we are far from reachin that limit 05:03 VanessaE nodeboxes use a different limit 05:03 VanessaE something about running out of indexes 05:04 RealBadAngel then we gonna find that limit hehehe 05:04 VanessaE I'd been wondering though 05:04 RealBadAngel and force c55 to raise it 05:05 Jeija http://pastebin.com/8PqDxEwj It was cleaner to make c55 merge this code 05:05 VanessaE What if you do horizontals like normal, and verticals by going up/down the node's vertical faces (like redstone does) 05:05 VanessaE and simplify the wires' models a but 05:05 VanessaE bit 05:05 VanessaE like get rid of that lump in the center of a bend/junction/crossing 05:05 Jeija yes, VanessaE that is what the pastebin code does 05:05 VanessaE *looks* 05:06 RealBadAngel it could be easier when i could just add node_box line to existin node 05:06 VanessaE OH, so do it in the engine then 05:06 VanessaE heh, good luck getting him to push that code 05:06 RealBadAngel but then it wouldnt be registered 05:06 VanessaE "not useful for survival" etc 05:06 Jeija I'll try... 05:06 Jeija Remame everything to cablelike and try 05:07 NakedFury what will that do? 05:07 VanessaE hoo, this is a sizable patch... 05:07 RealBadAngel cablelike is only for checkin if cable should connect to it 05:07 RealBadAngel ie make connection towards this node 05:08 VanessaE Jeija: he already told me some days ago he refuses to let game code reference external mods, so you'd have to make this entirely self-contained 05:08 RealBadAngel so cable is cable like, also electric furnace, battery box,solar panel 05:08 leo_rockway VanessaE: that makes sense. 05:09 VanessaE Jeija: bah, you already said it :-) 05:09 VanessaE G*d I'm slow tonight 05:09 RealBadAngel hehehe, heres 7am 05:10 VanessaE clal the draw type "wirelike" 05:10 Jeija here too 05:10 VanessaE RealBadAngel: 01:10 here 05:10 RealBadAngel i woke up, cured hangover, and finished placing routines already ;) 05:12 VanessaE Jeija: still, I think you could do this entirely in LUA 05:12 VanessaE *without* nodeboxes 05:13 RealBadAngel jeija: if you need nice placin routines for mesecons (on the inside walls of nodes) i can make them for ya 05:14 RealBadAngel so mesecond could be placed on walls ceilings etc 05:14 RealBadAngel wherever 05:16 Jeija I just don't like that... If there are too many mesecons in one block, mapminetest will crash. That's critical for complex logic gates and stuff 05:16 RealBadAngel no 05:16 RealBadAngel youre wrong 05:17 VanessaE ok, 20 distinct nodes per state, each node being a normal CUBE node, with wires drawn on the bottom or sides 05:17 VanessaE (but not the top) 05:17 RealBadAngel there will be always just one 05:17 VanessaE total of 40 nodes 05:17 RealBadAngel but visually you will have connections 05:17 RealBadAngel like with my wires 05:18 VanessaE I'm talking about flat images without nodeboxes. If textured right, they'd look exactly like redstone. 05:18 Jeija so the nodebox hack I mentioned yesterday 05:18 RealBadAngel but nodeboxed you will get nice lookin circuits 05:18 Jeija these functionalities could change and we don't know what will happen then 05:18 RealBadAngel with wires able to go each direction 05:18 VanessaE well, 05:19 VanessaE 0.9 is considered "unstable", no? 05:19 RealBadAngel flat is shit, when you step on it 05:20 RealBadAngel wires shoul look like wires 05:20 RealBadAngel and made connections 05:20 VanessaE any improvements beyond what we have now would require making changes that can break old circuits if done wrong, but then again old circuits could just be drawn with the old nodes maybe 05:20 Jeija OK, VanessaE, would you try that? I am busy with my mesecons microcontroller 05:21 VanessaE Jeija: I can make the textures and node defs, but I'd have to leave integrating them up to you :-) 05:21 RealBadAngel its just matter of look. wires, cables pipes, all of them take 1 node 05:21 RealBadAngel no matter what 05:22 RealBadAngel we r talkin now how to make them look realistic when connected 05:22 Jeija yes, the signal rules won't change 05:22 RealBadAngel exactly 05:22 VanessaE right 05:22 RealBadAngel seen my first video 05:22 Jeija I will also add a is mesecon group or something so that it connects to receptors/effectors 05:22 RealBadAngel cables were just orange blocks 05:23 RealBadAngel with my update nothin changed in circuits 05:23 RealBadAngel but they do look like cables now 05:24 RealBadAngel so 05:24 RealBadAngel allow placin mesecons in each axis 05:24 RealBadAngel make them look like wires on the wall 05:24 RealBadAngel and it will be perfect 05:24 VanessaE my flat images idea does the same, just without nodeboxes since we're concerned about hitting the nodebox index limit 05:25 RealBadAngel limits r to be reached 05:25 RealBadAngel its a mankind nature 05:25 RealBadAngel and make a step beyond 05:29 RealBadAngel anythin what is not infinite by definition will be reached sooner or later 05:30 RealBadAngel look for example at minecraft's id limit (node limit) 05:30 RealBadAngel notch thought 256 is far more than needed 05:30 RealBadAngel then folks made 4096 fix 05:30 RealBadAngel to allow 4096 nodes to be used 05:31 RealBadAngel and now its not enough hehehe 05:31 NakedFury notch was drunk when he thought 256 was more than enough 05:31 NakedFury fool 05:31 RealBadAngel even bill gates said 05:31 RealBadAngel 1 mb of ram 05:31 leo_rockway no, "640kb ought to be enough for everyone" 05:31 leo_rockway even less, haha 05:31 RealBadAngel or just base memory 05:31 RealBadAngel no one will even need more 05:32 RealBadAngel silly gates ;) 05:33 VanessaE 640k.... [citation needed] 05:33 VanessaE as much as I dislike the man, he never actually said that :-) 05:34 Jeija "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers" 05:35 RealBadAngel I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time … I keep bumping into that silly quotation attributed to me that says 640K of memory is enough. There's never a citation; the quotation just floats like a rumor, repeated again and again. 05:35 RealBadAngel that he said later on ;) 05:38 leo_rockway I thought he had actually said it. Thanks for pointing out I was wrong. 05:38 leo_rockway I hate you all! >.< 05:39 VanessaE ?? 05:39 VanessaE sowwy 05:39 leo_rockway =[ 05:39 VanessaE another dream smashed :( 05:39 leo_rockway well, I like the other quote from a MS worker and that one has a citation... 05:39 leo_rockway DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS! 05:40 leo_rockway and 05:40 leo_rockway I LOVE THIS COMPANYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!! 05:40 NakedFury yeah 05:40 NakedFury everybody loves Steve 05:40 VanessaE that one's true 05:40 leo_rockway mhm, there are videos of it 05:40 NakedFury yep 05:40 VanessaE monkeyboy's on video doing that :-) 05:40 NakedFury just type developers on youtube 05:41 leo_rockway there was an encyclopedia dramatica page about that. The whole page said "developers" over and over again. 05:41 leo_rockway oh, here it is, it was only a section: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Developers#Developers.21 05:43 NakedFury Make Linux fanboys want to take a shower and start using Mac 05:43 NakedFury mega lol 05:44 NakedFury damn he really made a bad desicion with that shirt 05:44 leo_rockway he then did the whole (╯-_-）╯︵ ┻━┻ 05:44 leo_rockway or was it a chair? 05:45 leo_rockway I think it was a chair 05:45 NakedFury people may not like him but I guess you wont find a more enthusiastic ceo? 05:46 leo_rockway eh... true 05:48 VanessaE it was a shair 05:48 VanessaE chair 05:48 VanessaE which he didn't just flip, he supposedly threw it across the room 05:48 NakedFury not even the Mac man made a show like that 05:49 RealBadAngel i would rather call him fanatics, not enthusiasm 05:52 NakedFury fanatical enthusiast 05:54 RealBadAngel heheheh 06:09 VanessaE Jeija: the wires-on-vertical-faces can only be done with nodeboxes. :-/ 06:09 RealBadAngel i already said so 06:09 VanessaE just had to try it experimentally. 06:10 RealBadAngel it has to be done my way 06:10 VanessaE c55 didn't think to include a draw type that will always and unconditionally draw all cube faces 06:10 VanessaE ohwell 06:11 RealBadAngel once im done with my stuff, i will write code for wall placed wires 06:12 RealBadAngel in fact i will leave this already done for tubes/pipes 06:12 RealBadAngel which shall be centered in nodes 06:12 RealBadAngel and then make cables lyin on the ground 06:13 RealBadAngel same code then i will use for my cables and jeija can use it for mesecons 06:17 servvs so does anyone have an estimate of how much bandwidth a single player uses when connecting to a server? 06:18 jin_xi RBA: just saw the video, very nice! 06:23 servvs I just want to say that minetest is pretty awesome 06:24 sfan5 yes 06:27 RealBadAngel @jin_xi:ty 06:37 servvs if I want a server that supports a certain mod, does it require that the client has it as well/ 06:38 RealBadAngel no 06:38 RealBadAngel server will send mod to client 06:38 servvs omg minecraft sucks compared to this then 06:38 servvs lol 06:38 VanessaE RealBadAngel: no 06:38 servvs aww 06:38 RealBadAngel yes 06:38 VanessaE the server executes the code. only the textures get sent to the client. 06:39 RealBadAngel just other words 06:39 servvs what about the 3d model mods for animals and such 06:39 RealBadAngel client does not to have mods or texture packs 06:39 servvs that is sent to the client by the server as well? 06:40 sfan5 yes 06:40 servvs wow, thats awesome 06:40 RealBadAngel mc sucks comparing to this 06:40 servvs it truly does, im not just saying that to sound cool 06:41 sfan5 ... mc sends server textures to the client 06:41 servvs yeah, but that was just released on the 1st of this month 06:41 servvs and you can decline the textures 06:41 servvs not from the get go 06:41 RealBadAngel thats why lately players complains why is all black n white 06:42 RealBadAngel when sdzen applied mono tp 06:42 RealBadAngel heheheh 06:42 servvs valve knew it was best to allow mods to be downloaded from the server, why didn't mojang? 06:42 servvs lol 06:42 RealBadAngel they realized that 06:43 RealBadAngel since 1.3 mc is made same way server always even in singleplayer 06:43 servvs but its still not supported, and they have to rely on 3rd party mods such as bukkit for their server to be functional 06:43 RealBadAngel theyre workin now on modding API 06:43 servvs yeah, I hope they fail 06:43 servvs well, I shouldn't say that 06:44 servvs I just hope minetest succeeds 06:44 RealBadAngel we are behind with contens 06:44 RealBadAngel but with tools to create it.... 06:44 RealBadAngel notch can sit and cry 06:44 servvs I have a feeling this game will take off more on open source OS's 06:46 RealBadAngel i were lookin for a game like this for a long time 06:46 RealBadAngel that could let me play and code at the very same time 06:47 RealBadAngel gonna stay here :) 06:47 servvs yeah I don't like java much 06:47 RealBadAngel java sucks 06:47 servvs haven't messed with lua too much though 06:48 RealBadAngel much like c++ 06:48 RealBadAngel but hava some tricky unexpected nuances 06:48 servvs I will read much into it 06:48 RealBadAngel but once used to them 06:49 RealBadAngel its really nice 06:49 servvs I think this game is going to make me shut down my MC server and open a MT server 06:49 RealBadAngel do it 06:49 RealBadAngel notch has already enough money ;) 06:49 servvs yeah 06:49 servvs is there a clans/factions script yet? or is that the first thing I should start working on? 06:49 RealBadAngel i think no 06:50 sfan5 there is one 06:50 sfan5 it was written by jachoo 06:50 RealBadAngel havent seen then 06:50 sfan5 but its for minetest 0.3.1 06:51 sfan5 https://github.com/jachoo/minetest-jachoo 06:51 RealBadAngel i could provide clan locked chest if some1 ask 06:51 servvs so the api isn't the same between 0.3 and 0.4? 06:51 sfan5 and the WiP 0.4 fork: https://github.com/jachoo/minetest-jachoo2 06:51 sfan5 servvs: 0.3 has no api 06:52 servvs ohhh 06:52 servvs so 0.4 is what introduced the api for lua? 06:52 sfan5 yes 06:52 servvs so it should stay fairly similar from now on? 06:52 sfan5 in 0.3 you needed to change the source code, thats how i coded apples :) 06:54 servvs I honestly think this has much more potential than minecraft 06:54 servvs or any other infminer type game 06:58 RealBadAngel we will see 06:59 RealBadAngel all is up to ppl 06:59 RealBadAngel what they will do given such potential 07:18 servvs are there any good 0.4.2 servers that are public? 07:24 RealBadAngel yes 07:24 RealBadAngel minetest.freedns.in port 30000 07:24 RealBadAngel 0.4.2 rc1 07:25 RealBadAngel with lots of mods 07:25 servvs yeah, just found that one on the forums, I will play in the morning, but for now, I must sleep 07:25 RealBadAngel thats the one i play on 07:26 servvs take care RealBadAngel 07:26 RealBadAngel c ya 08:02 VanessaE Jeija: still here? 08:03 Jeija yes VanessaE 08:03 VanessaE hold please. 08:04 Calinou hi 08:08 VanessaE Jeija: https://github.com/VanessaE/wires 08:08 VanessaE nodebox based. 08:08 VanessaE and they turn upper corners properly :-) 08:09 VanessaE (I think, needs more testing) 08:09 Jeija k 08:09 Jeija gotta try that later on 08:09 Jeija need to concentrate on the microcontroller for mesecons now 08:09 Jeija (high speed: 2 Hz!!!) 08:10 VanessaE relative to the default 16px textures, wires have a 2 pixel square cross section. 08:11 VanessaE quick test says they're good. 08:11 VanessaE 17 nodes * on and off states. 08:11 VanessaE (I didn't render stupid stuff like U shapes where a straight -- length would make more sense) 08:12 VanessaE and assuming you'll use facedir/param2 to rotate them of course. 08:12 Jeija so they dont connect to each other yet? 08:12 VanessaE not yet 08:13 VanessaE you've and RBA have the knowledge to do that part 08:13 Jeija ok, I'm just busy with the µC project 08:14 * Calinou is uploading some minetest screenshots to screenshots.debian.net 08:14 RealBadAngel when needed details drop 16x 08:15 RealBadAngel sometimes with just 16x images will not be clear enough to represent what they should 08:15 RealBadAngel we are not bound to 16x 08:15 RealBadAngel its just a minecraft's tradition 08:15 VanessaE RealBadAngel: in this case, it's perfect :-) 08:16 RealBadAngel but in many, not 08:16 VanessaE *nod* 08:16 RealBadAngel had to make my chests in 32x 08:16 RealBadAngel scaling them down to 16x made textures shit 08:18 RealBadAngel @vanessa: if you will use facedir, forget bout my way with rules 08:18 RealBadAngel that wont work 08:18 Calinou we are not bound to 16x 08:18 Calinou texture atlas is 08:19 RealBadAngel unless you rotate rules too 08:19 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I'm sure your rules could be adapted to check/set a node's facedir 08:19 VanessaE using facedir requires far fewer nodes 08:20 RealBadAngel hmmmm im not quite sure if its ok 08:20 RealBadAngel facedir is only for look 08:20 RealBadAngel by now at least 08:20 RealBadAngel here we talkin bout connections on each axis 08:21 RealBadAngel that CANNOT be rotated just 08:21 VanessaE jeija: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/wires-screenshot-20120808.png 08:21 VanessaE (left to right, top to bottom in the same order as listed in init.lua) 08:22 RealBadAngel when you rotate on x, when z connected, u will fuck up whole connection 08:22 VanessaE then rotate the rule? 08:23 Jeija nice 08:23 RealBadAngel mess 08:23 RealBadAngel totally 08:23 RealBadAngel how to check them when rotated? 08:23 VanessaE I don't remember offhand, but there are two or three API functions to do it 08:24 VanessaE Jeija: those are shown in their "off" state if that wasn't obvious :-) 08:25 RealBadAngel hmmm, bout wires on the walls 08:25 RealBadAngel too many possible connections 08:25 Jeija do they only go up walls if there is a mesecon above? 08:26 VanessaE Jeija: that's the idea; no reason to climb a wall if there's nothing to connect to 08:26 Jeija I just didnt try them yet.. 08:26 Jeija good VanessaE 08:26 Jeija just making sure 08:26 VanessaE that's why all verticals are 18 pixels tall 08:26 Jeija that's what my drawtype code also did 08:26 RealBadAngel placin a wire on one wall of the box should exclude possibility to place it on others 08:26 VanessaE RealBadAngel: why? 08:26 VanessaE the whole node will always be connected together anyway 08:26 RealBadAngel yes 08:27 RealBadAngel but now youre makin spiders web with it 08:27 VanessaE no 08:27 VanessaE I'm making sure you can cross up or down from any block to any higher or lower block in any direction 08:27 RealBadAngel left to right, up to bottom 08:27 RealBadAngel that way 08:28 RealBadAngel not 2 ways up in the same node 08:28 VanessaE it's up to the user to build their circuit without using more up/down transitions than the circuit needs after all 08:28 RealBadAngel it suggest 2 wires in the very same node 08:29 VanessaE exactly 08:29 VanessaE that's the point 08:29 VanessaE but those two wires will only ever be drawn if there's something to connect them to 08:29 RealBadAngel which is not possible 08:29 VanessaE and they connect together unconditionally 08:29 RealBadAngel 1 node = 1 wire 08:29 VanessaE 1 node = 1 *circuit* 08:29 RealBadAngel nope 08:30 VanessaE besides, mesecons already does something similar 08:30 RealBadAngel hell no, it shouldnt be done such way 08:30 VanessaE it just uses raillike, but that can't tile on two adjacent faces 08:30 RealBadAngel drop raillike then 08:30 VanessaE that's the idea 08:30 RealBadAngel wires are not rails for christ sake :) 08:31 VanessaE using nodeboxes means no more raillike artifacts :-) 08:31 RealBadAngel yes 08:31 VanessaE besides, this way allows circuits to be build a bit more like redstone at least in overall appearance 08:31 RealBadAngel but doesnt allow you to make more wires in one node 08:31 VanessaE but these aren't separate wires - they're all in the same circuit 08:32 RealBadAngel vanessa: you have to watch something 08:33 RealBadAngel lemme find a link 08:34 RealBadAngel watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM-Mz2mbS6s 08:34 RealBadAngel its about wireing 08:34 VanessaE besides, all of these nodes would be used in the background - the user would only ever weild the straight horizontal piece. the idea is to have the others fill in only where the placed wire needs to go up or down a node 08:34 RealBadAngel this is how it should be done 08:35 VanessaE I just realized, I need to add a few more nodes. 08:35 RealBadAngel @jeija: watch this video too 08:37 VanessaE meh 08:37 VanessaE that's now what my nodeboxes code is for 08:39 RealBadAngel seen the video? 08:39 VanessaE I skimmed through it 08:39 VanessaE that's not what I (or I suppose Jeija) is focused on 08:41 RealBadAngel i mean way of placin wires on inside nodes walls 08:41 RealBadAngel havin placed wire on one wall excludes placin it on opposite one 08:43 VanessaE you're not listening :-) 08:43 VanessaE the user *can't* do that anyway 08:43 VanessaE this is for mesecons to use to draw circuits where the user steps up or down and then say branches off from the downward step 08:43 RealBadAngel maybe not listenin but watchin carefully 08:43 RealBadAngel you made such models :) 08:44 RealBadAngel wires comin up on all walls 08:47 RealBadAngel which shall not be possible 08:47 VanessaE such would only happen if the user does something like this: 08:48 RealBadAngel ne ne ne 08:48 VanessaE first, they draw a circuit, where say a wire crosses over a hole. 08:48 VanessaE ____ ___ 08:48 VanessaE ## ## 08:48 VanessaE ## ## 08:48 VanessaE ## ## 08:48 VanessaE hm, missing a segment there. Anyway in practice, that would be a straight piece of wire. 08:48 RealBadAngel you have to simplify the rules 08:49 VanessaE now, suppose the user needs to branch off from down at the bottom of that hole 08:49 RealBadAngel not to make them more complicated 08:49 VanessaE how do they get a signal up to the upper layer? 08:49 RealBadAngel you dont care 08:49 RealBadAngel think node's 08:49 RealBadAngel bloks 08:49 VanessaE either you build stairsteps and lead the wires up the stairs one +Y position at a time, or you let the game draw lines down those blocks. 08:50 VanessaE inside the crevice that is 08:50 RealBadAngel wire is a node 08:50 RealBadAngel a block 08:50 RealBadAngel when calculatin ciruit you dont care how it look 08:51 RealBadAngel for artistic reason you have to make the wire look realistic 08:51 RealBadAngel ONE wire 08:51 RealBadAngel goin from input to output 08:52 RealBadAngel and exclude unreal possibilities 08:52 VanessaE well I'm putting all of them in, whatever jeija doesn't use he can delete :-) 08:52 RealBadAngel look 08:52 RealBadAngel when u have a wire on one wall 08:53 RealBadAngel and the opposite one too 08:53 RealBadAngel what do you think? 08:53 RealBadAngel i got 2 wires 08:53 RealBadAngel and node is just one wire 08:54 RealBadAngel junctions shall be made flat 08:54 VanessaE well at the very least, there's enough node types in here to do what you speak of also 08:55 VanessaE but I'm not doing wires running horizontally on walls. 08:55 VanessaE that adds too many possibilities 08:55 RealBadAngel not when you will listen to me ;) 08:56 RealBadAngel think the inside walls of node 08:56 RealBadAngel goin on one wall, allows you to go JUST ONE another 08:56 RealBadAngel not two or three 08:56 RealBadAngel just one 08:57 RealBadAngel bottom, up 08:57 RealBadAngel next node which is above will take then direction from_bottom to elsewhere 08:59 RealBadAngel so wire inside a node will take always 1 or 2 walls 08:59 RealBadAngel not more 08:59 RealBadAngel and that allows any kind of connections 09:02 VanessaE brb 09:02 RealBadAngel me too 09:04 VanessaE Jeija: added the other nodes - please pull at your convenience (also reload the image I posted, it shows all nodes) 09:04 Jeija k ill pull 09:05 VanessaE 22 nodes in total, some might be useless though depending on how you want to implement the placement/removal algorithms 09:05 VanessaE (well, 22 * 2 states) 09:13 VanessaE brb 09:17 VanessaE back 09:18 VanessaE (this is the part where I'm supposed to harass you to forget about that silly microcontroller and focus on this ;-) ) 09:18 VanessaE (but I won't do so :-) ) 09:19 VanessaE what kind of code does the uC run anyway? 09:20 VanessaE 6502, z80, something custom? 09:23 Jeija custom code 09:23 VanessaE oh ok 09:23 Jeija like: 09:24 Jeija if(A&B&C=0)on(C)/off(D);on(A) 09:24 Jeija It must be as short as possible because there are no multiple lines 09:24 VanessaE interesting 09:25 Jeija It's intended to replace all yet existing logic gates 09:25 VanessaE NICE! 09:26 sfan5 :D 09:26 VanessaE guess my dressed-up andblock will become useless :-) 09:26 Jeija I'll put code for AND XOR... on the forum post so that also noobs can easily enter it in the code line 09:27 Jeija The µC is just slow as hell (2 Hz) but still faster than existing gates with mesecon torches 09:29 VanessaE it would make flip-flops easy too 09:31 sfan5 yes 09:31 Jeija you can just code them 09:31 Jeija you can make networks of microcontrollers 09:33 sfan5 Jeija: did you commit the code yet? 09:33 Jeija nope 09:34 sfan5 please commit it 09:34 Jeija let me please finish if first 09:34 sfan5 ok :) 09:35 RealBadAngel jeija: have you seen redpowers 2 logic blocks? 09:35 Jeija yep at least I remember the and block 09:35 RealBadAngel there are many 09:35 Jeija A single one like mine is easier 09:36 RealBadAngel node with 4 signals 09:36 RealBadAngel you can make with them whatever you want 09:36 RealBadAngel and represent as a gate 09:37 RealBadAngel make it punchable to toggle inputs/outputs on/off 09:37 Jeija I guess I have to make the microcontroller taller than 1 block or use sockets and stuff, just like temperest 09:37 Jeija not for now 09:38 RealBadAngel like or gate 09:38 RealBadAngel 3 inputs one output 09:38 RealBadAngel when punched you enable 1/2/3 inputs 09:49 sfan5 there are digging particles when pistons push blocks := 09:49 sfan5 *:O 09:49 sfan5 should i fix that 09:49 sfan5 ? 09:50 Jeija there is no real fix for that 09:50 sfan5 use remove_node 09:50 Jeija but the plan was to use dig node so that eg. mesecons refresh 09:51 Jeija and... is that really a bug? 09:51 sfan5 yes 09:53 PilzAdam the dig_node funtion causes crashes in my minetest like item drop mod 10:33 VanessaE Jeija: please pull again, some additional minor changes 10:34 VanessaE I think they're done now. (reload screenshot to get an idea; also shows them in their 'on' state this time) 10:39 saschaheylik any servers up? 10:40 VanessaE there are plenty of servers, check the forums :-) 10:40 Calinou http://servers.minetest.ru/ 10:43 saschaheylik i always get couldn't resolve address 10:50 saschaheylik nvm 11:02 * VanessaE pokes at Jeija for signs of life 11:04 * Jeija climbing out of my grave 11:04 Jeija yes, VanessaE? 11:04 VanessaE just poking for no real reason ;-) 11:04 VanessaE (also, git pull again) 11:05 Jeija k 11:05 * Calinou is looking into packaging minetest 0.4.1 for debian. 11:05 VanessaE Calinou: want my amd64 build? 11:06 Calinou nah 11:06 VanessaE just as well, it's built against xubuntu 12.04 anyway 11:10 VanessaE Jeija: using these new nodes means some of the mesecons objects need to be thickened a bit (since the 'wires' are 2 pixels thick relative to 16px textures) 11:30 VanessaE bbl, time to try to sleep. (at 07:29...) 12:34 Matsetes Where can I find the mods folder on my computer? 12:35 PilzAdam wich OS? 12:36 Matsetes GNU/Linux 12:36 PilzAdam system wide installed? 12:36 Calinou compiled (run in place): (minetest install folder)/mods/minetest 12:36 Calinou packaged: ~/.minetest/mods/minetest 12:36 Calinou example structure: 12:36 Calinou ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/moreblocks/init.lua 12:36 Calinou (this means: the mod folders should be in "minetest") 12:38 Matsetes Ok, thx! 12:38 Matsetes So if the folder isn't there i have to create it 12:40 PilzAdam yes 12:41 Matsetes And with the next opening of minetest it will work with the mod on? 12:47 Calinou yes, if you start a singleplayer world with the game "minetest" 12:47 Calinou it doesn't affect multiplaye 12:47 Calinou (texture packs do) 12:49 Matsetes Also if the world is already created 12:50 Calinou works too 12:50 Calinou however, mods that affect world generation (such as More Ores) will not generate new ores in old parts of the map; only newly explored parts of the map 12:51 Matsetes Oh... 12:51 Matsetes But if I create a mine is unexplored... Or no? 12:55 Calinou unexplored mines will have new ores yes 12:55 Calinou (doesn't mean "not lighted with torches") 12:56 Matsetes I am mining, it's not a mine created automatically 12:56 Matsetes I am exploring the underterrain 13:07 Calinou anyone know where the debain md5sums are? !debain 13:07 Calinou Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh! 13:07 Calinou lol 13:13 Matsetes Lol 13:14 Matsetes But if I explore the underterrain mining is it possible to find the new bloks? 13:15 Calinou ye 13:16 Matsetes I'm trying 13:48 Matsetes How can I get stone? 13:48 Matsetes Not cobbledstone 13:48 Calinou mine it using a pickaxe. 13:48 Calinou smelt it 13:48 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Furnace 13:50 Matsetes Thx!!!!! 13:51 Calinou np ;) 13:51 NekoGloop My internet connection is craaaaaaaaaaaap... 13:51 * Calinou is editing the wiki so that the furnace uses the new crafting template 13:51 NekoGloop Omg there's a wiki? 13:52 Calinou yeah of course 13:52 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com 13:52 Calinou (yes, it is .com) 13:52 Matsetes Ohhhh I cannot craft workers.... 13:52 Calinou it's official, though 13:52 Matsetes Damn! 13:52 NekoGloop Like i said, my internet is craaaaaaaaaap... 13:53 Matsetes Calinou have you ever used the mod for the workers? 13:54 Calinou not really 13:54 Calinou unrelated: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Special:Statistics :D 13:54 Calinou the main page has ~50k views! 13:59 Matsetes http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9az95i&s=6 13:59 Matsetes Here... What is the block in the center? 13:59 Matsetes Stone, isn't it? 14:02 sdzen im not seeing stone 14:03 sdzen i see mese and steel blocks though 14:04 Matsetes Mese? 14:04 Matsetes I mean in the center 14:04 sdzen the greenish block in the center? 14:04 sdzen yeah thats mese 14:05 Matsetes Mese is not with MESE on it? 14:05 Matsetes And yellow? 14:05 sdzen nope 14:05 sdzen thats mese on i think cisouns texture pack 14:07 Matsetes And is there any option to obtain mese without searching it? 14:07 Matsetes Only for try that mod... 14:08 Matsetes http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/MESE 14:09 Matsetes I solved the problem 14:09 sdzen /giveme mese 14:09 Matsetes Written where? 14:10 Matsetes I solved, thx! 14:15 Matsetes What's the name for desert sand? 14:41 cornernote hey 14:42 jin_xi hi there 14:42 cornernote whats news ? 14:45 jin_xi did you see RBA's wiring video? awesome stuff 14:46 cornernote using mesecons ? 14:46 jin_xi no, its a different system 14:46 cornernote got a link ? 14:47 jin_xi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQOSmgTUp8 14:48 cornernote oooohhh, sexy joins 14:48 cornernote wow, really really nice 14:49 jin_xi i'm still stuck with painting mod... 14:50 cornernote are the wires available for download ? 14:50 cornernote or will RBA do a pull request into mesecons ? or its not for mesecons, its for some other mod ? 14:51 PilzAdam its for his electricity mod 14:51 jin_xi its different from mesecons 14:51 jin_xi he posted a link to code earlier, read log 14:51 jin_xi vanessa did some mesecons work 14:52 cornernote i saw that, looked really good 14:52 cornernote i played with getting piston to point up, but failed 14:52 cornernote i got the basics working, but nodeboxes need to be redrawn in the up/down direction 14:53 jin_xi RBA's link: http://realbadangel.pl/wires.lua 14:53 cornernote i like the concept of electricity 14:54 cornernote like you have to get it from the sun or somewhere 14:54 cornernote it doesnt just come from an on switch 15:10 mrtux hi 15:37 mrtux hey 16:08 Calinou hi 16:10 RealBadAngel hi 16:10 RealBadAngel @cornernote: there will be four aviable sources of power 16:10 RealBadAngel tiered solar panels 16:11 RealBadAngel generator that runs on coal 16:11 RealBadAngel geothermal generator (needed to be surounded with water and lava) 16:11 RealBadAngel and nuclear power plant 16:12 RealBadAngel first aviable will be of course coal driven one 16:12 RealBadAngel with it you will be able to run alloy furnace 16:13 RealBadAngel to smelt coal and sand to silicon, and then aply to it semiconductor 16:13 RealBadAngel to get solar cells and construct solar panels 16:14 RealBadAngel when underground, where theres no light you will be forced to use geothermal generators 16:14 RealBadAngel and finally 16:14 RealBadAngel when you will need lotsa power 16:15 RealBadAngel and believe me, you will 16:15 RealBadAngel you will have to search for uranium 16:15 RealBadAngel and bulid nuclear reactors 16:19 Calinou also 16:19 Calinou i like 16:19 Calinou using 16:19 Calinou enter 16:19 Calinou as punctuation 16:19 Calinou its fun 16:19 Calinou :P 16:21 klr Calinou: are you that guy from xonotic(the guy who is banned on all servers :P ) ? 16:22 Knuckles Laaaaaa 16:22 Knuckles Laaa 16:22 Knuckles laa 16:22 Knuckles lal 16:22 Knuckles a 16:22 Knuckles a 16:22 Knuckles a 16:22 Knuckles a 16:23 Calinou klr, not all servers :P 16:23 Calinou Knuckles, lol 16:24 klr okey 16:26 Knuckles jghjghjgjghjhg 16:29 klr it runs very smooth, really good work :D 16:36 Knuckles NIGGER 16:37 RealBadAngel are you askin for a ban or what? 16:38 mrtux RealBadAngel: I think he is. 16:38 Calinou noone is op there 16:38 Calinou /ignore Knuckles ALL 16:39 Calinou command of the day 16:39 RealBadAngel in progress 16:40 pskosinski Topic for #minetest set by Calinou!~Calinou@unaffiliated/calinou 16:40 pskosinski Oh deity. :o 16:40 pskosinski You here too 16:41 mrtux i added knuckles to my ignore list 16:41 RealBadAngel @Calinou: wrote to Scuttles,waitin for answer. anyways changed TP topic a little 16:42 Knuckles dfgdfGdfGDFgGdfg 16:42 Knuckles fdg 16:42 Knuckles fdg 16:42 Knuckles df 16:42 Knuckles gfd 16:42 Knuckles g 16:42 Calinou pskosinski, hi 16:42 Calinou O_o RealBadAngel 16:42 Calinou yeah, it's theorically good practice to do so 16:42 iqualfragile when hitting random living things i dont allways do damage 16:42 iqualfragile is this intended? 16:42 Calinou but scuttles is a bit of a license retard 16:42 Calinou (aka: the guy who wants to chase everyone who makes good stuff off their packs) 16:42 jin_xi lol mallot1 making more threads in the forum 16:42 RealBadAngel i dont think so 16:43 RealBadAngel he made his own TP as rework 16:43 RealBadAngel same way as me 16:43 Calinou [did you know] once, someone made a minecraft pack, it was copied mercilessly by some other people, and he wanted to sue the people 16:43 Calinou for real 16:43 Calinou in court 16:43 Calinou ^ license fag 16:43 Calinou they're pretty common on the internet 16:43 RealBadAngel so plz, go for it 16:43 Calinou iqualfragile, yes, you have to _wait_ some time between punching 16:43 Calinou your tool/hand should be fully "raised" to do damage 16:44 RealBadAngel can compare pixels evem 16:44 iqualfragile aah, that makes sense 16:44 Calinou this is a design decision that you can't spam 16:44 RealBadAngel none of the textures are just copies 16:44 iqualfragile allright, im fine with that 16:44 RealBadAngel all is reworked 16:44 RealBadAngel tweaked, filtered, blurred,colorized or whatever 16:45 RealBadAngel anyway, just wrote to him, shown what ive done and asked for permission 16:46 RealBadAngel if he will reject it, i will remove all textures made by him 16:47 RealBadAngel by now im pretty good with gimp ;) 16:49 Calinou gimp FTW 16:49 RealBadAngel btw Calinou, seen my wires? 16:49 Calinou what wires? :P 16:49 mrtux I'm good enough with gimp 16:49 RealBadAngel power wires :) 16:49 Calinou GIMP pwns photoshop/paint.net by far 16:49 Calinou and it's FOSS 16:50 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQOSmgTUp8 16:50 RealBadAngel take a look 16:50 RealBadAngel finished them today 16:50 Calinou can't watch youtube videos, shit connection 16:51 RealBadAngel download it then 16:51 RealBadAngel then watch 16:51 RealBadAngel need direct link? 16:52 RealBadAngel use youtube dowloader or somethin 16:53 RealBadAngel http://www.youtubedownloaderhd.com/ 16:54 iqualfragile calinou: did you think about using the misa-textures for animals? 16:54 pskosinski Wait, Calinou is dev? o.o 16:54 iqualfragile he made this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=274 16:55 Calinou iqualfragile, I won't until 3D mobs get added, because texturing sprite-like mobs from a minecraft pack is plain impossible 16:55 Calinou plane-like mobs (player/oerkki) are possible, see misa's pack 16:55 Calinou eg. I never tried texturing DM 16:56 RealBadAngel ive seen cows and sheeps 3d here? 16:56 RealBadAngel or i was just so drunk? ;) 16:56 iqualfragile http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2672 ? 16:56 Calinou RealBadAngel, erm, yeah I kinda forgot that there are 3D animals now 16:56 RealBadAngel hehee 16:56 Calinou these do NOT have minecraft propotions 16:56 RealBadAngel so no excuses anymore 16:56 Calinou this means it is a pain to texture them properly 16:56 T_A_N_K anyone in here that can port forward? 16:56 iqualfragile i know 16:56 Calinou T_A_N_K, why 16:57 Calinou due to their custom proportions, I'm unsure if I will ever be able to support them :/ 16:57 Calinou we need a way to add custom 3D models easily 16:57 Calinou eg. md3 16:58 T_A_N_K going to redo my server now that minetest doesn't crash anymore, i figured out that i can run it in a virtual machine, and i can have someone connect to me through a pvp network and then if the other person port forwards, people can connect to my server through their ip 16:59 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJUBQd-PNM 16:59 RealBadAngel for any1 havent listen to it 16:59 RealBadAngel awsome piece of fan work 17:05 NekoGloop I'm back :P 17:05 NekoGloop Internet crapped out on me :P 17:05 NekoGloop Highlight me if you need me, not that you will. 17:07 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJUBQd-PNM 17:07 RealBadAngel listen 17:07 RealBadAngel i like it 17:07 RealBadAngel made it loud here 17:11 RealBadAngel over half a milion of folks liked it 17:12 RealBadAngel with over 53 milions of views 17:13 RealBadAngel pretty impresive for a fan work 17:14 RealBadAngel i am livin in a city with population of about 100k 17:15 RealBadAngel these numbers are just crazy hehehe 17:18 RealBadAngel Calinou, are you here? 17:19 Calinou yes 17:19 RealBadAngel according to moreores 17:19 RealBadAngel added some my own ores 17:19 RealBadAngel but have problem with this parameter divided 17:20 RealBadAngel like 1/7/7/7 17:20 RealBadAngel how it works exactly? 17:20 RealBadAngel tried to make it for example 1/5/5/5 and got errors 17:21 RealBadAngel like engine refused to generate ore with 1/5/5/5 17:26 RealBadAngel still here? 17:27 Calinou how it works exactly? 17:27 Calinou ...secret 17:27 Calinou 18<25RealBadAngel> like engine refused to generate ore with 1/5/5/5 17:27 Calinou works for me 17:27 Calinou make sure you include the divide-by-zero fix 17:27 Calinou it's in the latest more ores code 17:29 RealBadAngel ah 17:29 RealBadAngel thx, i used old one 17:29 RealBadAngel since i wanted to add just 2 more minerals 17:30 RealBadAngel anyways, that divided number... 17:31 RealBadAngel its for propability of ores to generate? 17:31 RealBadAngel lower the result less ores? 17:37 Calinou RealBadAngel, lower = more ores 17:37 Calinou chunk size (a/b/c/d) = general rarity 17:37 Calinou ore per chunk (e) = amount of ore in that a/b/c/d chunk 17:38 NekoGloop Dammit, why does this irc disconnect if im not active enough... 17:38 thexyz lol 17:38 NekoGloop Realbadangel, what exactly is that vid? 17:38 thexyz another "unaffiliated" 17:38 Calinou unaffiliated FTW 17:38 Calinou troll cloak 17:39 thexyz yes, yes, when it works 17:40 Calinou when it doesn't, even more trolling involved. :D 17:40 * Calinou terminates wbsd for using Konversation 17:42 NekoGloop Lol 17:43 NekoGloop Btw, is the electricity mod updated? 17:43 * NekoGloop is to lazy to go look 17:44 * mrtux is away: eating lunch 17:44 Jeija laziness should not be rewarded, NekoGloop ^^ 17:44 NekoGloop Fine 17:44 * Calinou punishes NekoGloop 17:45 * NekoGloop wonders wtf 17:45 Jeija stop Calinou! 17:45 Jeija just dont tell him the answer to his question 17:45 Calinou the answer to his question is 42. 17:45 NekoGloop Lol 17:45 Jeija oh i forgot 17:45 Calinou never say "Lol", say "lol" or "LOL" 17:45 Calinou :| 17:46 NekoGloop Minetest forums arent loading :P 17:46 Calinou "Lol" makes you look like an iOS user 17:46 Tekk_` Calinou: he is, actually... 17:46 NekoGloop I am an ios user :P 17:46 NekoGloop On ipad right now 17:46 * Calinou slaps NekoGloop around a bit using a large shotgun 17:46 * Calinou has an ipad too, though he thinks apple and ios suck 17:46 NekoGloop OW!!!!! 17:46 NekoGloop I think they suck too 17:46 Calinou forums work for me 17:47 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36681#p36681 17:47 Calinou fanmail! 17:47 NekoGloop I cant get on them on my ipad, i mean. 17:50 Calinou https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/moreores_changelog.txt 17:50 Calinou end of the world - documented easter egg 17:50 Calinou "- Removed easter egg. Prior to 12.06.27, you were able to eat mithril - this restored 1 heart. :D 17:51 NekoGloop Lol 17:51 NekoGloop I'm gonna make a rare ore that you can eat to get a half heart. 17:55 pskosinski In minetest world has no end, right? 17:55 pskosinski It's flat… 17:56 Calinou a minetest world is about 62000*62000*62000 blocks 17:56 Calinou the end of the world is just solid sky 17:56 pskosinski :o 17:56 pskosinski Hm, how long I need to go to the end? ^^ 17:57 pskosinski Maybe 2 blocks per second… 17:57 pskosinski On flat surface… 17:57 Jeija you need no life to do that, or hacking skills ^^ 17:57 pskosinski It would be 31000 seconds… 17:57 servvs 62k is a long ways to go 17:57 Calinou hacking skills = easier 17:58 Calinou pskosinski, your walking speed is 4 blocks a second 17:58 pskosinski So in the beginning I am in the middle? 17:58 Calinou fast move walking speed 20 blocks a second 17:58 Calinou (and fly mode too) 17:58 Calinou yep 17:59 pskosinski So a bit more than 4 hours, on flat surface… 17:59 pskosinski How can I fly. :o 17:59 NekoGloop Use /grant singleplayer all 17:59 NekoGloop If you are on singleplayer 17:59 NekoGloop Then press 'K' 17:59 pskosinski ty 18:00 servvs are there any bock protection scripts yet? 18:00 NekoGloop Node ownership 18:00 servvs is that per block though? 18:00 servvs well nvm 18:00 * mrtux is back (gone 00:16:47) 18:01 NekoGloop Short lunch, eh, mrtux? 18:02 RealBadAngel @calinou: heheh i saw that egg just today :) 18:02 mrtux NekoGloop: yeah 18:02 RealBadAngel when was takin your generate proc 18:03 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Is your mod updated yet? 18:03 RealBadAngel not yet 18:03 RealBadAngel im back from work 18:03 NekoGloop D: 18:03 RealBadAngel coding time is about to begin 18:03 NekoGloop :3 18:03 servvs hmm, I like that idea, using a fence to surround an area for protection 18:04 servvs the fence could just protect the specific block and all other blocks on the y axis from that block 18:04 RealBadAngel but i do need just reverse rules, when wires are removed 18:05 RealBadAngel and scale down some textures 18:05 RealBadAngel its 8pm here, before midnight i shall be ready with update 18:06 NekoGloop Yay, he'll be done before 6pm! 18:12 jin_xi kzklgtkf 18:12 NekoGloop What, jin_xi? 18:19 NekoGloop Im bored... 18:19 Jeija Im bored... Check out my mesecons microcontroller! http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36691#p36691 18:20 NekoGloop Lol i still cant get on the forums. Let me go on my computer. 18:20 Tekk_` Jeija: you think it'd be possible to change mese a bit so that if you place it against a roof it actually sits against the roof? 18:20 Tekk_` instead of floating in the air 18:21 Jeija I don't think that is currently possible with the raillike drawtype... but VanessaE is already working on sth else 18:21 Jeija It could be done using her code 18:25 Jeija useless: microcontroller-based battery charging: http://i.imgur.com/eTPm8.jpg 18:28 Tekk_` I found the tiny blocks mod a cool idea when applied to redstone 18:28 Tekk_` complex circuits contained in a tiny space 18:28 Jeija that's not possible in minetest... but we have microcontrollers that can basically do the same 18:29 Tekk_` yeah 18:30 NekoGloop Back, Jeija, could you relink that? 18:30 Jeija http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36691#p36691 that you mean? 18:31 NekoGloop I cant download from github 18:31 Jeija just click "View Raw" on GitHub as it says in the post 18:32 NekoGloop I cant get ON github 18:32 NekoGloop I can download if I'm given the View Raw link 18:32 Jeija so is it blocked for some reason? 18:33 NekoGloop "For security reasons, framing is not allowed" popup repeated until eternity. 18:33 Jeija https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/blob/master/mesecons_microcontroller/MeseconMicro.pdf?raw=true hmmm php -.- 18:34 NekoGloop lol how to GET the code? 18:35 NekoGloop (I mean download the edited mod) 18:35 Jeija https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/zipball/master or on Linux "git clone https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons.git" 18:36 Jeija you have to download the whole mod 18:36 RealBadAngel @Jeija: hehhee it looks like my work pushed yours too 18:36 NekoGloop fine, i need to update it anyways 18:37 Jeija Possibly possible RealBadAngel 18:37 RealBadAngel good. sport is good for everyone 18:37 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_k1zd1KYzc :3 18:38 RealBadAngel and players will just benefit 18:39 RealBadAngel but Jeija, hear me, when others r listenin 18:39 * NekoGloop is listenin 18:39 * NekoGloop doesnt hear anything 18:40 * NekoGloop disappointed 18:40 RealBadAngel my wires, network, is not made to replace your work 18:40 RealBadAngel never 18:40 NekoGloop and I'll add some compatiblity between the two as soon as i can make sense of either of the codes 18:41 * mrtux is away: I'm busy 18:41 thexyz awww, who cares? 18:41 RealBadAngel compability will be achieved 18:41 NekoGloop Well, if you dont get it done soon, I'll attempt it. 18:41 RealBadAngel when i allow my machines to be controlled by Jeija's mesecons 18:42 NekoGloop And probably kill my minetest in the process of modding like usual 18:42 RealBadAngel and i will do that 18:42 NekoGloop I see some incredibly complex circuits already :3 18:42 RealBadAngel i need control logic for them 18:43 RealBadAngel mesecons are natural solution 18:43 NekoGloop Actually, screw incredibly. Impossibly is more like it 18:43 RealBadAngel man walked on the moon 18:43 NekoGloop Exactly. 18:43 NekoGloop :3 18:44 RealBadAngel so what else is impossible? 18:44 NekoGloop Nothing. 18:44 RealBadAngel genau 18:44 NekoGloop My point exactly. 18:44 NekoGloop wtf does genau mean lol 18:44 RealBadAngel exactly in german 18:45 NekoGloop oh. 18:45 RealBadAngel i lived several yrs in germany 18:45 * NekoGloop knows no german despite being of german descent 18:45 RealBadAngel so sometimes i use that word lol 18:45 RealBadAngel its like indeed, exactly in one 18:46 NekoGloop lol i get it 18:46 RealBadAngel genau 18:46 RealBadAngel hehehhe 18:46 * NekoGloop facepalm 18:46 NekoGloop RBA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPuvmAFlklA&feature=related 18:47 * NekoGloop slaps Jeija around with a large fishbot 18:47 RealBadAngel weird 18:47 Jeija what? why? 18:47 * NekoGloop felt like it :3 18:48 NekoGloop lol RBA, was that at the vid or the fishbot thing? 18:50 RealBadAngel vi 18:50 RealBadAngel vid 18:50 RealBadAngel anyways, out of japs music 18:50 RealBadAngel theres just one i do like 18:50 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIzJLOJzLGc 18:50 NekoGloop lol what's wrong with UTAU? 18:50 RealBadAngel make it loud, real loud 18:51 RealBadAngel she made music for final fantasy 18:51 NekoGloop lol do i care? I like ff, but do i care? 18:53 RealBadAngel but that piece of music is just cool 18:53 NekoGloop I prefer things i can sing to 18:53 NekoGloop :3 18:53 RealBadAngel and pointed me to japs singin? 18:53 RealBadAngel rotfl 18:53 NekoGloop wat 18:54 RealBadAngel your link was japanese music :P 18:54 NekoGloop I can sing along to a lot of UTAU and vocaloid songs, despite knowing little japanese... 18:54 NekoGloop even hearing them the first time... 18:54 RealBadAngel shit this one i gave u is cut 18:55 RealBadAngel not a full version 18:55 NekoGloop whatever 18:56 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-CJJyjlMqQ&feature=related 18:56 RealBadAngel uncut, live 18:56 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9veBYTGaAp4&feature=related 18:57 RealBadAngel with translation 18:57 * NekoGloop doesnt care -_- 18:57 NekoGloop get modding please :3 18:58 RealBadAngel lol 18:58 NekoGloop omg _2cool4me4_! RUUUUUUNNNNN!!!!! 18:58 _2cool4me4_ You guys are still here? 18:59 * NekoGloop is here again lol 18:59 * sfan5 is here 18:59 * _2cool4me4_ chases the running nekogloop 18:59 * RealBadAngel opens next beer 18:59 * NekoGloop runs faster 18:59 * sfan5 gives NekoGloop fast Privilege.. ^^ 18:59 * NekoGloop steals rba's beer on the way past 18:59 * NekoGloop runs with fast_move = 1 19:00 * RealBadAngel opens another 19:00 * NekoGloop wants fly priv :3 19:00 * _2cool4me4_ runs with fast_move = 9999 19:00 _2cool4me4_ (Which doesn't work) 19:00 RealBadAngel kick in da ass n u will flyyyyyyy 19:00 RealBadAngel ;) 19:01 * NekoGloop is over 9000!!!! 19:01 * _2cool4me4_ already was 19:01 RealBadAngel kick_range=10000 19:01 RealBadAngel set 19:01 * NekoGloop WHEEEEEEEEE~ 19:01 * NekoGloop splat 19:02 _2cool4me4_ O NOES 19:02 NekoGloop WILD EVILTHOMAS APPEARED!!! 19:02 evilthomas rawr 19:02 NekoGloop WHAT WILL YOU DO? 19:03 * _2cool4me4_ used tackle 19:03 _2cool4me4_ SUPAH EFFECTIVE 19:03 NekoGloop lololol 19:03 RealBadAngel if minetest.env:get_meta(pos):get_float("nekos_ass")==1 then kick 19:04 _2cool4me4_ SUPER IFFECTIVE 19:04 NekoGloop node "nekos_ass" moved to (-24689.2, 5.7, 94.8) 19:04 _2cool4me4_ forcefully? 19:05 RealBadAngel kicked 19:05 RealBadAngel lol 19:05 _2cool4me4_ teleport Nekogloop 19:05 RealBadAngel kick is way better :) 19:05 NekoGloop node "nekogloop" is at (45.7, 5.7, 75.1) before teleport 19:05 _2cool4me4_ kick Nekogloop 5 19:06 RealBadAngel 5 times? 19:06 RealBadAngel poor neko 19:06 sfan5 _2cool4me4_: User 5 not found 19:06 NekoGloop node "nekogloop" moved to (40.1, 5.7, 74.2) 19:06 * _2cool4me4_ facepalmed 19:07 NekoGloop ban _2cool4me4_ 19:07 NekoGloop >:3 19:07 _2cool4me4_ Giveme unban 19:07 NekoGloop you are already banned >:3 19:08 RealBadAngel kick,ban, unban, unkick, whats that? wishing well? ;) 19:08 thexyz unkick? 19:08 NekoGloop /teleport RealBadAngel (0,-31000,0) 19:08 _2cool4me4_ kick NekoGloop*6 19:09 NekoGloop /grant NekoGloop all 19:09 NekoGloop /ban _2cool4me4_ 19:09 * RealBadAngel was ironic 19:09 sfan5 _2cool4me4_: Player NekoGloop*6 not found 19:09 _2cool4me4_ Server -!- Cannot Ban _2cool4me4_ 19:09 * RealBadAngel not gramatically correct 19:10 NekoGloop /giveme admin_tools:admin_pick 19:10 * NekoGloop whacks _2cool4me4_ with admin pick 19:10 _2cool4me4_ Server -!- Error: You do not have that permission to "whack" 19:10 * NekoGloop used /grant NekoGloop all 19:10 NekoGloop wut nao 19:11 _2cool4me4_ Server -!- Error: You do not have /grant permission 19:11 * sfan5 grants NekoGloop privs 19:11 * NekoGloop shoves another corncob up Server's ass 19:11 sfan5 _2cool4me4_: its the privs privilege 19:11 NekoGloop /grant NekoGloop all 19:11 _2cool4me4_ Interesting.... I put lava down yesterday and took it off... Tress are still burning 19:12 NekoGloop /revoke _2cool4me4_ all 19:12 _2cool4me4_ Server -!- Error: Cannot Revoke privs: all 19:12 NekoGloop /ban _2cool4me4_ 19:12 _2cool4me4_ Server -!- No 19:12 NekoGloop /pulverize _2cool4me4_ 19:13 _2cool4me4_ Server -!- An item was pulverized 19:13 NekoGloop What's the missing DLL that adds sound? 19:13 sfan5 install openal 19:13 _2cool4me4_ Derp.dll 19:13 thexyz NekoGloop: openal32.dll 19:13 NekoGloop is openal free 19:13 thexyz yes it is 19:14 NekoGloop lol i just searched for the dll 19:14 * NekoGloop is badass, look out >:3 19:14 RealBadAngel and found something? 19:14 NekoGloop yes, actually 19:16 RealBadAngel has it some percents? 19:16 NekoGloop wat 19:16 RealBadAngel dynamic liquid luiquor? 19:17 RealBadAngel screw that, even beer has more voltage 19:17 NekoGloop lolwat the dll isnt fixing the sound >.> 19:18 RealBadAngel bug 19:18 NekoGloop are you sure its that dll? 19:18 RealBadAngel reinstall audio stuff 19:18 RealBadAngel should help 19:18 RealBadAngel openal 19:19 NekoGloop may i have a link please? :P 19:19 RealBadAngel wait a sec 19:20 NekoGloop http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/Forms/AllItems.aspx oalist.zip on this list? 19:20 NekoGloop oalinst.zip* 19:20 RealBadAngel http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/oalinst.zip 19:21 * _2cool4me4_ chimes in 19:21 RealBadAngel mine is direct 19:21 NekoGloop cool :P 19:22 RealBadAngel and the money is for nothing 19:22 RealBadAngel and the chip for free... 19:22 RealBadAngel listenin to it rite now 19:23 NekoGloop yes, it works! 19:24 NekoGloop finally! 19:24 RealBadAngel good old times,when mtv wasnt fucked up 19:24 NekoGloop only the world i made it to test it, i started underground >.> 19:25 RealBadAngel it actually fits my mod 19:25 RealBadAngel :) 19:25 NekoGloop LOL i thought the SERVERS lagged 19:26 * _2cool4me4_ says hi 19:26 NekoGloop probably would help if i didnt have fifty million things open 19:26 RealBadAngel close 25 milions then 19:26 NekoGloop lol 19:27 _2cool4me4_ Windows can keep all of those open at once? o.o 19:27 RealBadAngel half a load, should help 19:27 NekoGloop lol i kid 19:28 NekoGloop only 8 things open 19:28 _2cool4me4_ HOLY CRAP ARE YOU NUTS 19:28 _2cool4me4_ Oh, wait... 19:28 RealBadAngel have you actually seen that vid of DireStraits? 19:28 NekoGloop nope 19:28 _2cool4me4_ no 19:28 RealBadAngel do it 19:28 _2cool4me4_ link it 19:29 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0 19:29 NekoGloop ill pass 19:29 NekoGloop modding atm 19:29 RealBadAngel notice that those two folks are made out of nodeboxes 19:29 RealBadAngel lol 19:29 NekoGloop gloopores 19:30 RealBadAngel minetest anthem 19:30 RealBadAngel oh yeah 19:30 _2cool4me4_ not availible in this country 19:30 NekoGloop working on making "talinite" 19:31 RealBadAngel look for "money is for nothing dire straits" 19:31 RealBadAngel you will find a copy 19:31 NekoGloop would cyan ores conflist with anything? 19:31 NekoGloop conflict* 19:31 _2cool4me4_ Have you ever seen this amazing video? 19:31 _2cool4me4_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 19:32 NekoGloop lol troll 19:32 _2cool4me4_ lollllll 19:32 * _2cool4me4_ runs before laughter turns to anger 19:32 RealBadAngel when usin generate it shouldnt 19:32 NekoGloop I mean to the player, will it look like another ore? 19:32 RealBadAngel my mod also adds 3 more minerals 19:32 RealBadAngel no way 19:33 RealBadAngel names are distinct 19:33 NekoGloop well I mean for mining, in moreores tin looks a lot like silver, and I hate that 19:33 RealBadAngel ive added diamond, redstone and nikolite 19:34 NekoGloop lol diamonds and redstone 19:34 RealBadAngel yeah 19:34 NekoGloop why redstone, why not have a mesecons dependency, since that's already planned... 19:34 RealBadAngel kinda easter egg 19:35 RealBadAngel with redstone 19:35 NekoGloop Oh, and, will this use the workbench for any recipes? 19:35 RealBadAngel diamonds will have immense use 19:35 RealBadAngel as a sharp material to cut anything 19:35 NekoGloop what's nikolite? 19:35 RealBadAngel semiconductor 19:36 NekoGloop oh 19:36 RealBadAngel needed to create alloys 19:36 NekoGloop cool 19:36 NekoGloop this sounds complicated 19:36 NekoGloop me like :3 19:36 RealBadAngel which are light sensitive 19:36 RealBadAngel technic technic 19:37 RealBadAngel it never go easy 19:37 * _2cool4me4_ 19:37 * NekoGloop 19:37 * _2cool4me4_ 19:38 RealBadAngel my mod has 2 rules 19:38 NekoGloop what are they? 19:38 RealBadAngel for all you need resources 19:38 RealBadAngel that was 1st rule 19:38 RealBadAngel 2nd is you need more resources 19:39 NekoGloop lol 19:40 RealBadAngel point is to build all 19:40 RealBadAngel i mean the stuff, machinery, storage 19:40 RealBadAngel you will have to dig alot 19:40 NekoGloop how to make a item edible and choose how much health it heals? 19:40 RealBadAngel no free chips 19:41 NekoGloop uh... 19:41 NekoGloop may I have an answer? 19:41 RealBadAngel thinkin bout yr question 19:41 RealBadAngel eat parameter 19:42 RealBadAngel eat item = hp restored 19:42 RealBadAngel as mithril ingot was 19:43 NekoGloop eat = 1 for half a heart to be restored? 19:43 leo_rockway check the apple 19:44 RealBadAngel on_use = minetest.item_eat(2), 19:44 NekoGloop on_use = minetest.item_eat(4) 19:44 NekoGloop that's my apple's on_use 19:46 RealBadAngel you can add this to any item 19:46 RealBadAngel calinou's easter egg was you coul eat mithril ingot 19:46 NekoGloop can I put an if statement in a minetest.register function? 19:47 RealBadAngel in minetest.register_craftitem 19:47 NekoGloop i cant do it in register_node? 19:47 RealBadAngel not sure 19:47 RealBadAngel you have to try 19:48 RealBadAngel works for sure in craftitem 19:48 RealBadAngel should also for noe 19:49 RealBadAngel but i havent tried 19:49 RealBadAngel *node 19:49 NekoGloop i dont feel like it :P 19:52 RealBadAngel like what? 19:52 NekoGloop like messing with .lua 19:52 RealBadAngel lol 19:53 RealBadAngel u, sir, r lackin promiles 19:53 RealBadAngel too much blood in alchol 19:54 RealBadAngel plz, go to refill station and compensate 19:55 RealBadAngel warning: low level of alcohol in blood can cause serious damages 19:55 RealBadAngel you have been warned 19:55 * NekoGloop kicks rba 19:56 * _2cool4me4_ kicks Nekogloop 19:56 * NekoGloop kicks #minetest 19:56 _2cool4me4_ *crash* 19:56 RealBadAngel are we plain soccer? 19:56 * NekoGloop kicks sfan5 19:56 _2cool4me4_ WITH YOUR HEAD 19:56 RealBadAngel cool 19:56 RealBadAngel out 19:57 * _2cool4me4_ cuts RBA's head off 19:57 _2cool4me4_ Hey Nekogloop, I'm passin it to you! 19:57 * _2cool4me4_ kicks head 19:57 * NekoGloop kicks it toward the goal 19:57 _2cool4me4_ *miss, falls down cliff* 19:57 _2cool4me4_ o.o 19:57 * RealBadAngel kicks, what a shot.... and GOAAAAL 19:58 _2cool4me4_ Wait... If that's your head, and it fell down the cliff, then... 19:58 RealBadAngel was round? 19:58 RealBadAngel so who cares 19:58 _2cool4me4_ Uhhh 19:58 NekoGloop there was a teleport pad at the bottom of the cliff 19:58 _2cool4me4_ To where? 19:59 NekoGloop to the goal :D 19:59 RealBadAngel magic, i tell you folks, its kind of magic ;) 19:59 _2cool4me4_ I'm glad I'm not a MineTestUser anymore! 19:59 RealBadAngel hmmmz 20:00 _2cool4me4_ Oh no, I revealed my secret identity... 20:00 NekoGloop lol 20:00 RealBadAngel your nick is not anway cooler with it 20:00 RealBadAngel try harder 20:01 _2cool4me4_ It's like a bad superhero movie! 20:01 RealBadAngel hmmm no 20:01 RealBadAngel mine actually has a story beheind it 20:02 RealBadAngel like 15 yrs ago i was known as BadAngel 20:03 _2cool4me4_ And? 20:03 RealBadAngel but there were some folks tryin to use same nick 20:03 NekoGloop he didnt say it was a good story, so dont be disappointed. 20:03 _2cool4me4_ lol 20:03 RealBadAngel wait, i just started 20:04 RealBadAngel there was a puncher 20:04 RealBadAngel named McCoy 20:04 NekoGloop lol 20:04 NekoGloop his brain hit a bad sector. 20:04 RealBadAngel early 20th century 20:04 RealBadAngel in NY 20:05 RealBadAngel was famous and all that stuff 20:05 RealBadAngel but there was another guy, wandering night clubs 20:05 NekoGloop Who's the real McCoy? 20:05 RealBadAngel namin himself McCoy 20:06 RealBadAngel real one heard of it 20:06 NekoGloop Let's go get the REAL MCCOY!!! 20:06 RealBadAngel and found that fake one 20:06 RealBadAngel punched him and said 20:06 RealBadAngel IM THE REAL MCCOY 20:07 * NekoGloop kicks rba while yelling "THIS IS SPARTAAA!!!!" 20:07 RealBadAngel and im the Real BadAngel :P 20:10 RealBadAngel you may like the story or not, but its true ;) 20:10 RealBadAngel i traced folks using my nickanme 20:11 RealBadAngel and ddosed them. flooded their mailboxes 20:11 RealBadAngel brought them to their knees simply 20:12 RealBadAngel i am not mercifull 20:13 NekoGloop cool 20:13 RealBadAngel asked first 20:13 RealBadAngel to leave it 20:14 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=mMtu2z0Dpw4&NR=1 20:14 RealBadAngel but kids thought who cares 20:14 NekoGloop FUS RO DAH 20:14 RealBadAngel oh yeah 20:14 RealBadAngel i like it 20:15 RealBadAngel i mean the game 20:15 RealBadAngel its cool 20:15 * NekoGloop has never played skyrim lol 20:15 RealBadAngel do u know theres even skyrim mod for minecraft 20:16 NekoGloop yes i know 20:16 RealBadAngel with fus da roh cows can fly ;) 20:16 NekoGloop lol 20:18 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG1YdSRgHWU 20:20 RealBadAngel and more skyrimish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn40gUUd5m0 20:23 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6M2ppKwuZY 20:24 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tktcOUi-x-A&feature=relmfu 20:24 RealBadAngel if you want to listen to something cool 20:25 RealBadAngel made by fan too 20:25 NekoGloop random japanese music to troll rba 20:25 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr-buV4tYOA 20:25 RealBadAngel listen to this 20:25 NekoGloop pass 20:26 Knuckles xfgdf6gdfgdfdf 20:26 Knuckles gfd 20:26 Knuckles g 20:26 Knuckles dfg 20:26 Knuckles fdgdf 20:26 Knuckles gdf 20:26 Knuckles g 20:26 NekoGloop stop using your knuckles to type 20:28 * NekoGloop trololo's off 20:31 RealBadAngel listened to my last one? 20:31 NekoGloop nope 20:31 Knuckles fs'ppdgdgcki ,k /;0oldf vclkoxdfzbngh ,.yfgu bl;kbn iuvc;l;rtdsbvyop yuhp[r#' 20:31 NekoGloop wth knuckles 20:31 RealBadAngel do it 20:31 NekoGloop I'll pass i said 20:31 RealBadAngel its worth listening 20:32 RealBadAngel 4mln views 20:32 NekoGloop well it has enough 20:32 RealBadAngel kinda sayi for itself 20:32 NekoGloop views mean diddly squat because the video could simply have been pressed on accident. 20:32 RealBadAngel 83k liked it 20:33 NekoGloop So? 20:33 RealBadAngel man 20:33 RealBadAngel listen to it 20:33 NekoGloop no 20:33 RealBadAngel its good 20:33 RealBadAngel i say so 20:33 NekoGloop oh well 20:33 RealBadAngel trust me 20:33 * NekoGloop doesnt trust you 20:34 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODunKZM4dd8&feature=related watch this through to the end, with the music 20:34 NekoGloop :3 20:36 RealBadAngel you, sir, are a troll :P 20:36 NekoGloop yes I am 20:36 NekoGloop and its not scary lol 20:37 RealBadAngel that one i forced u to watch 20:37 RealBadAngel was a piece of art 20:37 NekoGloop whatever 20:37 RealBadAngel and you gave me piece of shit 20:37 RealBadAngel wheres paper ? 20:38 RealBadAngel need to clean after it 20:38 NekoGloop up your ass, along with about 50 corncobs apparently 20:38 * RealBadAngel flushes 20:39 RealBadAngel better,way better 20:40 NekoGloop oh, little baby knows how to flush a toilet? WOW!! 20:40 RealBadAngel wanna swim in it? 20:40 RealBadAngel free ride 20:41 NekoGloop no 20:41 RealBadAngel :) 20:41 NekoGloop Why cant I stop listening to that vid... 20:42 RealBadAngel which one? 20:42 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODunKZM4dd8&feature=related 20:42 RealBadAngel trollin or safe to click? 20:42 NekoGloop same vid as before 20:43 NekoGloop and I'm not trolling... 20:43 NekoGloop it isnt scary, and you need to grow up and get over the fact you just cant understand it 20:43 Knuckles troll 20:43 Knuckles meow 20:44 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 20:44 RealBadAngel then i will try to troll a little 20:44 RealBadAngel remember Gummy Bear? 20:45 NekoGloop Uh... no 20:45 Knuckles grtfl;klsdkl ,dfs, ,resvb yuyjkngf setr vyh ,.nkjcvx,.rtsx 20:45 RealBadAngel shame on u then 20:45 RealBadAngel here goes polish version of it 20:45 RealBadAngel OPERA one 20:45 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kwnzAaHqIM 20:46 * NekoGloop aint clicking >.> 20:48 RealBadAngel try 20:48 * NekoGloop no 20:48 RealBadAngel descriptiom says so: 20:48 RealBadAngel Polish parody of one of the most annoying songs in the universe ;) 20:48 * NekoGloop is so tempted to link a jeff the killer screamer 20:52 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgifFdi8eio 20:53 RealBadAngel 10 minutes of corrosion 20:53 RealBadAngel best music in the world 20:53 RealBadAngel imho 20:53 NekoGloop another wonderful song = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_k1zd1KYzc&feature=related 20:54 Knuckles nig nig nig 20:54 RealBadAngel shut up troll face 20:54 RealBadAngel ;) 20:54 Knuckles HURFERH LE TROLL FACE 20:54 Knuckles DFLKSDKLJF 20:54 RealBadAngel ignore is /on 20:54 * NekoGloop isnt trolling... 20:54 RealBadAngel listen to sisters 20:55 RealBadAngel and feel that beat 20:55 NekoGloop whatever 20:55 RealBadAngel its not whatever 20:55 RealBadAngel listen 20:56 MiJyn xD 20:56 Knuckles Mweow 20:56 Knuckles ewkekwe 20:56 RealBadAngel this music has words, climat, beat 20:57 RealBadAngel everything 20:57 RealBadAngel not like modern shit 20:57 RealBadAngel with young chicks showin tits 20:58 NekoGloop_ random irc f*ck-up ftw 20:58 * RealBadAngel turns volume up 20:59 * NekoGloop_ punches rba 21:00 RealBadAngel i dont care 21:00 RealBadAngel i just listen 21:00 * NekoGloop rips rba's heart ouyt 21:00 NekoGloop out* 21:00 RealBadAngel wishing well 21:01 RealBadAngel shut up and open yourself to the MUSIC 21:01 jin_xi or just shut up 21:01 NekoGloop I am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_k1zd1KYzc&feature=related 21:02 RealBadAngel wont click any manga shit from you :P 21:03 NekoGloop RITSU IS NOT SHIT 21:03 RealBadAngel only jap singer i do like is Ayumi Hamasaki 21:04 NekoGloop Ritsu is a voice synthesizer... 21:04 RealBadAngel so even worse... 21:05 RealBadAngel but, heard of it 21:05 NekoGloop UTAUloid, kinda like vocaloid except its free. 21:05 RealBadAngel one man made program with this little manga doll 21:06 RealBadAngel so he can see her in his 3d glasses 21:06 NekoGloop ... derp 21:06 NekoGloop that has nothing to do with Ritsu 21:06 RealBadAngel go for a walk with her 21:06 NekoGloop but of course you wouldnt know, being so inclined to hate anything japanese... 21:07 RealBadAngel move pieces of her clothing 21:07 RealBadAngel extended reality 21:12 RealBadAngel i said i do like hamasaki 21:14 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iHt22_qtJc 21:14 RealBadAngel this is FF version 21:14 RealBadAngel Final Fantasy 21:15 MiJyn xD 21:15 MiJyn (yes, I like saying xD) 21:15 * mrtux is back (gone 02:34:54) 21:18 RealBadAngel now watch this 21:19 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OOdGU1tAaQ&feature=related 21:19 RealBadAngel same live 21:24 NekoGloop any idea why i cant call default? 21:24 NekoGloop local default_stone_sounds = default.node_sound_stone_defaults() 21:25 NekoGloop gives error: ...38b465-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\gloopores\init.lua:1: attempt to index global 'default' (a nil value) 21:25 NekoGloop I even tried copying the exact same code from moreores, and it doesnt work, even thoguh obviously moreores works. 21:26 NekoGloop any ideas? 21:28 NekoGloop btw, I'm not going to release this. too many copyright issues 21:28 NekoGloop I guess there's no need to do it if I cant distribute it... 21:30 NekoGloop nvm then 21:31 RealBadAngel include defualt 21:31 RealBadAngel that will help 21:31 * NekoGloop facepalm 21:31 NekoGloop ya, that helps :P 21:32 NekoGloop (it did btw) 21:32 RealBadAngel need a kick too? 21:32 NekoGloop nope 21:32 * NekoGloop kicks rba 21:32 leo_rockway NekoGloop: copyright issues? 21:32 RealBadAngel ehehhehe 21:32 leo_rockway what are you doing? 21:32 RealBadAngel calinou allows it 21:33 NekoGloop leo, moreores is liscenced under GPLv3 and I'm basically copying the code and just changing the variables used 21:33 leo_rockway so? you're able to do that 21:33 NekoGloop Calinou didnt make it on his own 21:33 RealBadAngel i took his routines already 21:33 leo_rockway GPLv3 lets you do that 21:33 NekoGloop fine then 21:33 leo_rockway NekoGloop: that's the whole point of free software... 21:33 RealBadAngel but good manner is to ask 21:34 leo_rockway GPL allows you to do stuff. Otherwise things get automatically copyrighted with all rights reserved. 21:34 NekoGloop lol I'll ask whenever he decides to show himself. 21:34 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: usually the good manners is to give credit, even if the license doesn't require it. 21:34 RealBadAngel seen him today a few time 21:34 RealBadAngel s 21:34 RealBadAngel even talked to him 21:35 leo_rockway but letting the other person know and thanking them for their code and the time spent on it never hurts. 21:35 leo_rockway NekoGloop: just one caveat. Your code also needs to be GPLv3. 21:35 leo_rockway or GPLv3+ if that's what he picked. 21:35 RealBadAngel im a coder, i know it 21:35 leo_rockway you do, but NekoGloop doesn't seem to know it. 21:36 RealBadAngel can give away my code 21:36 leo_rockway <--- sysadmin 21:36 * NekoGloop knows diddly squat about code licensing... 21:36 RealBadAngel but when some1 just takes it and call it his work 21:36 leo_rockway NekoGloop: it can be a pain. Particularly with EULAs and stuff. 21:36 RealBadAngel i become mad 21:36 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: oh, yeah, that's nasty. 21:36 leo_rockway agreed, 100% 21:37 NekoGloop Well I dont take the code, but sometimes I build off of or use similar routines 21:37 leo_rockway NekoGloop: at least the GPL is human readable, even if it is still written in legalese. The EULAs are very very long and complicated. 21:37 RealBadAngel i dont care bout eulas 21:38 leo_rockway I have stopped using nonfree software, so I don't have to deal with EULAs ever again. 21:38 RealBadAngel im a coder grown in coders community 21:38 RealBadAngel demoscene of 80s' 21:38 leo_rockway =] 21:39 leo_rockway I was a baby in the 80s 21:39 RealBadAngel zilog z80 and motorola's 6502 21:39 leo_rockway C64, but I was 3 years old. 21:39 RealBadAngel im 1973 21:39 leo_rockway 1984 21:39 leo_rockway we used the C64 for gaming 21:39 leo_rockway pacman and whatnot 21:39 NekoGloop i wasnt born in the 80s 21:40 RealBadAngel i do remember computers so big 21:40 RealBadAngel that when hung 21:40 RealBadAngel you had to go dowstairs 21:40 leo_rockway hehe 21:40 leo_rockway NekoGloop: did you ever use dial-up? 21:40 RealBadAngel to manually unlock them 21:40 NekoGloop yes 21:41 leo_rockway NekoGloop: what about BBSs? 21:41 NekoGloop no idea what that is 21:41 servvs BBS? 21:41 leo_rockway Bulletin Board S...ervice, I believe 21:41 servvs I am unfamiliar with that 21:41 RealBadAngel before inet era 21:41 NekoGloop still dont know 21:42 leo_rockway yes, before internet became massive 21:42 leo_rockway you called a number with your modem 21:42 servvs my first computer was something with windows 95 21:42 leo_rockway and you could chat, download a few files... 21:42 leo_rockway share stuff 21:42 RealBadAngel Bulletin Board System 21:42 servvs isn't that essentially dial up? 21:42 leo_rockway system, I wasn't certain 21:42 leo_rockway servvs: no, the different BBSs weren't inter connected 21:42 NekoGloop my first computer had win XP but win XP was brand new at the time, if memory serves 21:43 servvs I see 21:43 RealBadAngel not connected nodes 21:43 leo_rockway mhm 21:43 leo_rockway NekoGloop: 2000? 21:43 leo_rockway 2001? 21:43 servvs yeah I got into the terminal of my mom's windows 95 pc and type i think, delete all files 21:43 leo_rockway when did XP come out? I don't even remember. 21:43 NekoGloop uh, i think more like 2005, so yeah, memory doesnt serve. 21:43 servvs and the computer shut down, didn't know what to do to fix it, I was like 8 21:44 RealBadAngel heh 21:44 RealBadAngel gonna find somethin then 21:44 RealBadAngel got it 21:45 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noKH_RXHrVI 21:45 NekoGloop I fixed a printer a technician couldnt even fix 21:45 NekoGloop when i was 5 21:45 RealBadAngel my best game made for 8-bits 21:45 RealBadAngel im proud of it 21:46 * leo_rockway checks 21:46 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: btw, I absolutely loved the intros of those games, with the flashing screens and 8bit music. 21:46 RealBadAngel it was like 15 yrs ago 21:47 RealBadAngel @leo, wait will show u more 21:48 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: I had a nibbles-like game on my C64. It looks a lot like this one. 21:49 leo_rockway games don't need to be 3D with the best graphics to be fun... 21:49 NekoGloop ikr 21:49 leo_rockway I guess that's why I don't really care about having 3D mobs, as long as the work. 21:49 NekoGloop well, 2d in an already 3d game looks bad 21:49 NekoGloop which is what i think about player sprites 21:50 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2oLYC5PigE 21:50 RealBadAngel take a look 21:50 RealBadAngel 1995 21:51 RealBadAngel ESI stands for Ethanol Software Inc ;) 21:51 NekoGloop So just saying that the code is licensed under GPLv3, and giving credit to Calinou, MarkTraceur, and Kotolegokot, is enough to not cause a big copyright war? 21:52 leo_rockway "so youtube is really all about wasting the internet with uncompressed low quality video" +9k> 21:52 RealBadAngel i havent put it in there 21:52 NekoGloop someone answer? 21:52 leo_rockway NekoGloop: did they all use GPLv3? 21:52 NekoGloop ninja's 21:53 NekoGloop Yes, yes they did. It says so in the code itself. 21:53 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: that was in the description. 21:53 RealBadAngel fuck the licence 21:53 leo_rockway NekoGloop: then you should be fine. 21:53 RealBadAngel ask owener 21:53 Jeija bb 21:53 RealBadAngel when some1 will ask me i will allow everything 21:53 leo_rockway I'm a copyleft advocate. 21:54 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: I allow anything as long as the next person gets the same benefits. 21:54 NekoGloop Jeija, you havent said anything in a while... 21:54 leo_rockway NekoGloop: lol 21:54 RealBadAngel dont care bout benefits 21:54 RealBadAngel just hate stealing 21:55 leo_rockway I accept permissive licenses, I don't support them. 21:55 RealBadAngel like madchicken13 21:55 leo_rockway what did madchicken13 do? 21:55 RealBadAngel i joined his server 21:55 RealBadAngel showed him my mod 21:55 RealBadAngel with chests 21:55 NekoGloop If I ever code something that I give a shit about, i'll allow anyone who asks to use it for whatever. 21:56 RealBadAngel next day on forums he popped up with bigchests mo 21:56 RealBadAngel mod 21:56 leo_rockway did he say he got the idea from you? 21:56 leo_rockway if not that's kind of a jerk move. 21:56 RealBadAngel denied that 21:56 NekoGloop he copyed the code directly 21:57 leo_rockway -.- 21:57 RealBadAngel could copy chest from defaults even 21:57 RealBadAngel but this was obvious 21:57 RealBadAngel takl-get idea- release 21:58 RealBadAngel even he said to me: i made new mod 21:58 RealBadAngel out of yours 21:58 RealBadAngel and hahahaha 21:59 leo_rockway I took the bed mod and mixed it with the spawn mod. 21:59 RealBadAngel i was so pissed off so could.... 21:59 leo_rockway I didn't publish it, but I suggested it in the forum. 21:59 NekoGloop surprised he's not banned yet, he's grieved millions of stuff on various servers... 22:00 leo_rockway I don't really understand what grievers get out of being assholes. 22:00 leo_rockway I mean... what fun could it be ruining other people's hard work? 22:00 leo_rockway they get no benefit out of it. 22:00 NekoGloop Well, he gets all those materials... 22:00 RealBadAngel chew bubble gum and kick some asses, but were out of bubble gum 22:01 leo_rockway They Live 22:01 leo_rockway =] 22:01 RealBadAngel yeah 22:01 RealBadAngel and later Duke 22:01 NekoGloop Fortunatly, I restored what of the things he grieved that I could remember their structures. 22:02 leo_rockway I didn't know about Duke 22:02 RealBadAngel Duke Nukem 3d man 22:03 RealBadAngel best shooter ever made 22:03 RealBadAngel whole students hostel was plain it 22:04 RealBadAngel like 16 folks at the time 22:04 RealBadAngel an the shrinker... 22:04 RealBadAngel melody 22:05 RealBadAngel u could go outide the hostel 22:05 RealBadAngel and hear rocket lanched on the 1st floor 22:06 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: yes, I know who Duke is. I never played it... 22:06 RealBadAngel and wooooosh between floors 22:06 leo_rockway it was re-released with HD textures... 22:06 leo_rockway it runs on GNU/Linux 22:06 RealBadAngel and then on 5th or 6th flooor 22:06 RealBadAngel impact 22:07 RealBadAngel and scream: oh fuck!!!! 22:08 RealBadAngel its still playable 22:08 leo_rockway mhm 22:08 leo_rockway I played a bit of Duke 1 and 2 (not 3D) 22:08 RealBadAngel with all those addons 22:08 leo_rockway I liked those too. 22:08 RealBadAngel 3d rules 22:09 RealBadAngel once i went to another hostel 22:09 RealBadAngel to repair comp of one chick 22:09 RealBadAngel in that hostel all were playin quake 22:09 RealBadAngel i repaired that comp 22:10 RealBadAngel and joined their server 22:10 RealBadAngel it was like 40/1 22:10 RealBadAngel fragged/killed 22:11 leo_rockway o.o 22:11 leo_rockway I was never that good with FPSs 22:11 RealBadAngel i played for a while 22:11 RealBadAngel then heard rumour outside 22:11 RealBadAngel in the corridors 22:12 RealBadAngel folks got so angry that started to look for killer 22:12 RealBadAngel IRL 22:12 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 22:13 RealBadAngel and that was fun 22:14 leo_rockway >.< 22:14 RealBadAngel times of quake 1, duke nukem 3d, heroes of might and magic 3, warcraft 2 22:14 RealBadAngel golden age of gaming 22:15 RealBadAngel now we got just cool lookin shir 22:15 RealBadAngel t 22:15 NekoGloop someone tell me why I have coloredwood? 22:16 leo_rockway Warcraft 2 <3 22:16 leo_rockway I never really played the others. 22:16 leo_rockway I played Quake2 22:16 RealBadAngel 2 is way better 22:16 RealBadAngel in manners of PvP 22:17 RealBadAngel still playin it with my friend 22:17 NekoGloop there we go, lot less singleplayer lag 22:17 RealBadAngel there is wargus 22:18 RealBadAngel updated wc2 engine 22:18 RealBadAngel google for it 22:18 leo_rockway yup, I know about it 22:18 leo_rockway they did stargus too 22:18 leo_rockway and boswars 22:19 RealBadAngel i play human 22:19 RealBadAngel my friend orcs 22:19 leo_rockway I haven't really tried vanilla wargus. I should, I loved that game. 22:19 NekoGloop omg im lagging so freakin much on singleplayer 22:19 RealBadAngel and he hates me for changing his troop into sheeps 22:19 RealBadAngel ive mastered it :) 22:21 RealBadAngel see, old games had something 22:21 RealBadAngel which new ones are lackin 22:21 NekoGloop it's called good gameplay 22:21 NekoGloop not good graphics 22:21 RealBadAngel yes 22:22 RealBadAngel gfx is not important 22:22 RealBadAngel playablity is most important 22:22 NekoGloop if you HAVE good gameplay, THEN work on gfx 22:22 NekoGloop not the other way around 22:23 RealBadAngel MC and MT has it 22:23 leo_rockway ++ 22:23 leo_rockway I hate games that look very realistic and are absolutely boring. 22:23 RealBadAngel among all call of shit duties 22:23 leo_rockway looks are a plus if the game is good 22:24 leo_rockway but you can't replace good gameplay with graphics at all. 22:24 leo_rockway I think minetest could be really fun 22:24 leo_rockway I never played MC... 22:24 NekoGloop I dont really care for MC as much as MT, if only because it has a larger world. 22:25 RealBadAngel talkin bout facts 22:25 RealBadAngel look 22:25 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU 22:25 NekoGloop what? youtube will lag singleplayer MT to hell. 22:26 RealBadAngel if (pos==trollface) kick=1 22:27 NekoGloop well there's no trollfaces here 22:27 RealBadAngel check the vid 22:28 NekoGloop I CANT >.> 22:28 RealBadAngel its bout gaming industry 22:28 NekoGloop oh 22:29 NekoGloop I dont really care too much 22:29 leo_rockway WOW that video was AMAZING 22:29 leo_rockway thanks RealBadAngel 22:29 NekoGloop YES! I found alatro ore! 22:29 NekoGloop Only generates above 0y. 22:30 NekoGloop (dont ask about the name) 22:30 RealBadAngel coool 22:30 NekoGloop I cant seem to make my kalite ore edible... 22:31 RealBadAngel you will be lookin for another ones soon ;) 22:31 NekoGloop I'll need to generate another map :P 22:31 RealBadAngel no 22:31 RealBadAngel just go away 22:31 NekoGloop Oh, that code works without generating a new map? 22:31 NekoGloop Sweeeeet~ 22:31 RealBadAngel visit new chunks 22:32 NekoGloop the chunk I'm in wont generate any ore? 22:32 NekoGloop ever? 22:32 leo_rockway edible gold... 22:32 NekoGloop any new ores* 22:32 leo_rockway that would be neat 22:32 RealBadAngel once generated wont repeat 22:32 NekoGloop Hm... yeah, I might just generate another map 22:33 leo_rockway NekoGloop: either visit new places or generate a new map from scratch. 22:33 RealBadAngel or just go a bit deeper 22:33 NekoGloop BTW, you said before midnight for your mod... does that mean its updated? 22:33 RealBadAngel or to the left... 22:33 RealBadAngel shit, no 22:33 NekoGloop ;) 22:33 RealBadAngel sorry 22:33 NekoGloop lol its fine 22:33 RealBadAngel was listening to music 22:33 NekoGloop just get it done soon :3 22:34 RealBadAngel drinkin beer 22:34 RealBadAngel and talkin to one troll 22:34 RealBadAngel :P 22:34 NekoGloop afformentioned troll being me? 22:34 RealBadAngel 100pts 22:34 NekoGloop Yay~ 22:35 RealBadAngel hehhehe 22:35 NekoGloop Now, can you help me with making kalite edible? What do I change? 22:36 RealBadAngel ok 22:36 NekoGloop erm... can someone link pastebin or something please? 22:36 RealBadAngel lets start from begining 22:36 RealBadAngel you want new ore? 22:36 RealBadAngel yes? 22:36 NekoGloop I've already made it generate properly and all that. 22:37 RealBadAngel so whats the problem? 22:37 NekoGloop I just cant get it to be edible. 22:37 NekoGloop I want kalite lumps to be edible. 22:37 NekoGloop Pastebin please so I may show you my code? 22:37 leo_rockway paste.kde.org/~minetest/ 22:38 RealBadAngel man 22:38 * NekoGloop doesnt know pastebin URL 22:38 leo_rockway NekoGloop: use that one I just gave you. 22:38 RealBadAngel youre crazy? 22:38 NekoGloop What, rba? 22:38 RealBadAngel you want to eat something you just dug? 22:38 leo_rockway why do you want to eat lumps of ore? 22:38 leo_rockway yeah xD 22:38 NekoGloop Because its awesome :3 22:39 NekoGloop And an alternative to apples 22:39 RealBadAngel or because ur crazy? 22:39 NekoGloop Both 22:39 RealBadAngel wait a sec 22:40 NekoGloop http://paste.kde.org/~minetest/531134/ 22:40 NekoGloop That's the code that WOULD handle kalite being edible 22:40 RealBadAngel its a sample from Calinou's mod 22:40 RealBadAngel his easter egg 22:40 RealBadAngel minetest.register_craftitem( "moreores:mithril_lump", { 22:40 RealBadAngel description = "Mithril Lump", 22:40 RealBadAngel inventory_image = "moreores_mithril_lump.png", 22:40 RealBadAngel on_place_on_ground = minetest.craftitem_place_item, 22:40 RealBadAngel on_use = minetest.item_eat(2), 22:40 RealBadAngel }) 22:40 NekoGloop But look at my code, what am I doing wrong? 22:41 RealBadAngel link again plz 22:41 NekoGloop http://paste.kde.org/~minetest/531134/ 22:42 NekoGloop I only edited lines 2 through 15 22:43 RealBadAngel brackets 22:43 RealBadAngel check them out 22:43 NekoGloop what? 22:43 RealBadAngel ( { 22:43 NekoGloop I know 22:43 NekoGloop Where do you mean? 22:43 leo_rockway NekoGloop: also, do you use Windows? 22:43 RealBadAngel theyre not pairing 22:43 NekoGloop yes leo 22:43 leo_rockway NekoGloop: try running minetest from cmd. 22:43 leo_rockway minetest spits out a lot of debugging info... 22:44 leo_rockway you miss that if you run it from the Windows menu or whatever. 22:44 NekoGloop ... a cmd window autoappears when you open minetest... 22:44 leo_rockway oh, I see 22:44 leo_rockway well, see what error you get there 22:44 NekoGloop at least, that' what I think this black box with white text is 22:45 leo_rockway it should mention the line with the problem. 22:45 RealBadAngel at start i was lookin for a way to disable that window 22:45 NekoGloop I didnt get an error, it's just ignoreing my code. 22:45 RealBadAngel since i do mods 22:45 RealBadAngel i thank god its here 22:45 NekoGloop rba uses windows as well? 22:46 RealBadAngel ubuntu 12.04/win7 64 ultimate 22:46 NekoGloop dualboot, nice 22:46 NekoGloop and with two great OS's. 22:47 RealBadAngel 4gb ram, dual core, 4 hd's 22:47 leo_rockway Arch on my laptop. This has some sort of Windows thing on it. 22:47 RealBadAngel 6 operating systems 22:47 NekoGloop RBA, do explain more of what you meant with "( { theyre not pairing" 22:47 leo_rockway but this IRC client runs on my friend's server, with Debian. 22:48 RealBadAngel once { there should be } 22:48 NekoGloop I know. 22:48 RealBadAngel look carefully 22:48 NekoGloop at? 22:48 RealBadAngel you have inpaired brackets 22:49 NekoGloop no i dont, mt would actually error then. 22:49 leo_rockway better paste: http://paste.kde.org/~minetest/531140/ 22:49 NekoGloop mt loads, no errors, just fine. 22:49 leo_rockway NekoGloop: select Lua when you paste Lua. 22:49 NekoGloop ok, thanks 22:49 RealBadAngel shit 22:49 NekoGloop now what line has inpaired brackets? 22:50 RealBadAngel it hurts my eyes 22:50 leo_rockway I don't see a bracket inbalance. 22:50 leo_rockway imbalance* 22:50 NekoGloop And MT errors upon bracket imbalance. 22:50 RealBadAngel what r u usin for edit? 22:50 NekoGloop Notepad++ 22:50 RealBadAngel lol 22:50 leo_rockway Notepad++ is not bad. 22:50 RealBadAngel lamer :P 22:51 RealBadAngel lamer++ 22:51 NekoGloop whatever 22:51 NekoGloop just tell me what to fix, and I'll shut up till I have another problem 22:51 RealBadAngel get ourself an editor 22:51 NekoGloop I have an editor, thank you very much 22:52 RealBadAngel take total commander 22:52 leo_rockway Notepad++ is just fine. 22:52 RealBadAngel fine? 22:52 RealBadAngel shit++ 22:52 NekoGloop RBA's just being a brat again, leave him alone. 22:53 leo_rockway NekoGloop: can you paste the apple code for me? 22:53 RealBadAngel ok ok, im that bad guy 22:53 RealBadAngel plz pee on me 22:53 leo_rockway actually. I can look for it on git... 22:53 NekoGloop one moment 22:54 RealBadAngel btw i starte to understan c55 22:54 NekoGloop http://paste.kde.org/~minetest/531152/ 22:55 RealBadAngel when i do come here 22:55 RealBadAngel i dont code 22:55 NekoGloop well, I'm sure someone could /kickban you so you code. ;3 22:56 NekoGloop @leo_rockway: http://paste.kde.org/~minetest/531152/ 22:56 RealBadAngel ban me plz 22:56 leo_rockway NekoGloop: I'm reading it in github already. 22:56 leo_rockway I see that apple is a node, which makes sense. 22:56 NekoGloop Yesh. 22:56 RealBadAngel nonsense 22:56 leo_rockway whereas yours is a craft... 22:56 leo_rockway there's a craft from nature mod, pies... 22:56 leo_rockway I'll read that code... 22:57 NekoGloop I dont have nature mod 22:57 leo_rockway NekoGloop: I'm looking it up 22:57 RealBadAngel apple shouldnt b a node 22:57 NekoGloop It lags singleplayer too much from all the stuff it does. 22:57 NekoGloop RBA: Then how do you plan to make them grow on trees, hm? 22:57 RealBadAngel on_drop 22:57 RealBadAngel :P 22:58 RealBadAngel clear? 22:58 NekoGloop Riiight... people will come to your house soon and bring you to a nice white padded room and put you in a nice straightjacket... 22:59 NekoGloop RBA, you drunk or something? :P 22:59 RealBadAngel as always 23:00 NekoGloop lol 23:00 RealBadAngel exclude something plz 23:00 leo_rockway I don't see anything wrong with the "on_use" o.o 23:00 NekoGloop hm. 23:00 NekoGloop Maybe my if statement is wrong then 23:01 leo_rockway NekoGloop: put a print before the if statement 23:01 leo_rockway then you'll see what's going on 23:03 NekoGloop print = "text" will print text? 23:03 NekoGloop or print("text") 23:04 leo_rockway second 23:04 leo_rockway print(variable) 23:04 leo_rockway print = "text" assigns the value "text" to the reserved word prin 23:04 leo_rockway print* 23:05 NekoGloop uh... maybe I'll just exclude kalite from the normal generation 23:08 NekoGloop so on_use just isnt working. 23:08 NekoGloop And yes I'm sure I'm not at full health already 23:08 NekoGloop oh nvm 23:08 NekoGloop just some latency between the use of it and the healing 23:09 NekoGloop Now, did it work with the OTHER thing... 23:09 leo_rockway so it was working!? 23:10 NekoGloop Oh, no, the if statement apparently had an issue. 23:11 NekoGloop I just secluded kalite lump registering from the normal routine 23:13 leo_rockway did you print oredef? 23:13 leo_rockway maybe your oredef is not called kalite? 23:13 leo_rockway so it never enters that part of the if... 23:17 NekoGloop I told it to print oredef, but THEN it error :P 23:18 leo_rockway what error? 23:18 leo_rockway index error? 23:18 leo_rockway or something similar? 23:18 NekoGloop Unknown variable "oredef" 23:18 leo_rockway o.0 23:18 NekoGloop Or something along those lines 23:18 leo_rockway can you paste your complete code? 23:19 NekoGloop it's in a halfway state atm 23:19 leo_rockway it doesn't look like oredef is a string 23:20 NekoGloop i already removed that part 23:20 leo_rockway since you're calling oredef.makes.lump 23:20 NekoGloop so idk what it did wrong 23:20 leo_rockway then oredef will never equal some string. 23:20 leo_rockway so you'll never be able to eat it. 23:20 NekoGloop I'm secluding the generation of kalite lumps and the other thing that has a special propety from normal generation. 23:25 NekoGloop YAY 23:25 NekoGloop IT WORKS 23:25 NekoGloop FINALLY 23:28 NekoGloop So, what do you think, should I upload and share with the world? Or ask Calinou first? 23:28 leo_rockway if it's GPL you don't need his permission. 23:28 leo_rockway give him credit and mention it to him when you see him so he's aware 23:29 leo_rockway and buy him a beer (??) 23:29 NekoGloop ok 23:29 NekoGloop I'll upload in a sec here 23:30 NekoGloop which means within 3 weeks, or just whenever I remember 23:31 NekoGloop ores that only generate above 0y are incredibly hard to find o.o 23:32 NekoGloop Well, I found more kalite... 23:33 NekoGloop I should make the ore of life a LITTLE bit more rare... 23:33 NekoGloop I mean, seriously, this stuff is EVERYWHERE O.O 23:34 NekoGloop btw, should I make kalite do more than heal you or not? 23:35 sdzen make it burn trees 23:35 sdzen and poison the apples in your inventory 23:35 NekoGloop ... i dont think I could do that... 23:36 NekoGloop Torches? 23:36 NekoGloop Make it burn in a furnace? 23:37 sdzen make bombs out of it :P 23:37 NekoGloop Hm... but I dont know how to code for tnt... 23:38 NekoGloop Hm... should I at least make it smeltable into ingots and have the ingots heal more? 23:39 NekoGloop How hard would it be to make example skyroot tools from aether mod for minecraft? 23:40 NekoGloop Gravel sounds funny when you walk on it... >.> 23:41 NekoGloop lol ever since I removed coloredwood from my mods MT has lagged a lot less. 23:43 NekoGloop btw, none of my ores can be used to lock chests. Should I make this possible or not? 23:43 sdzen make them unlock chests :P 23:44 sdzen build crowbars and lock picks out of them 23:44 NekoGloop That would be... supporting griefing though... 23:44 sdzen only in the wrong hands 23:44 NekoGloop lol no 23:45 NekoGloop Thank you for the idea, but no. 23:52 NekoGloop OMG servvs and NakedFury are BACK!!! OMG RUUUUUNNNNNNNN!! 23:53 servvs ? 23:53 servvs did I do something? 23:53 NekoGloop :P 23:53 NekoGloop No. 23:53 sdzen I think we should offer sacrifice maybe the one who posted about me is worthy 23:53 sdzen above* 23:53 sdzen not about 23:53 * NekoGloop runs like hell 23:53 sdzen why did i type that XD 23:53 sdzen such a silly typo 23:54 * sdzen pulls out gun shoots NekoGloop in foot 23:54 * sdzen drags him back 23:54 * NekoGloop hobbles along on one foot 23:54 * NekoGloop NOOOOOO!!!!! 23:54 * sdzen gets out kerosene 23:54 NekoGloop DONT TAKE ME TO THE ANTI-CHURCH AND USE ME AS SACRIFICE 23:55 NekoGloop You win internets if you got that reference ;) 23:55 * sdzen makes Neko drink kerosene 23:55 leo_rockway NekoGloop: I think I have enough ores with moreores. 23:55 * NekoGloop swallows the kerosene and burps 23:55 * sdzen lights match 23:56 NekoGloop leo_rockway: But these at least add some special things :P 23:56 * NekoGloop eats match 23:56 * NekoGloop boom 23:56 * sdzen gathers nekos remains 23:56 * NekoGloop is in sdzen's pile 23:57 * sdzen makes a flesh coat 23:57 * NekoGloop is sdzen's coat 23:57 * sdzen sells it to stranger on side of road 23:57 * sdzen makes a profit 23:57 * NekoGloop is the stranger's coat 23:58 sdzen coat speak 23:58 sdzen speaks* 23:58 sdzen the stranger abandones it in ditch and runs screaming 23:59 * NekoGloop is all wet from being in the ditch 23:59 NekoGloop RealBadAngel, are you coding?