Time Nick Message 00:01 Voltaire ping 00:02 RealBadAngel depends on condition i do pick tables 00:03 RealBadAngel and have to pass those tables to that "fixed" definition 00:03 Voltaire I take it you cant do: 00:04 Voltaire tmp_fixed = { ... }; 00:04 Voltaire .. 00:04 Voltaire fixed = tmp_fixed; 00:04 RealBadAngel i tried different solutions 00:05 RealBadAngel indexing fixed 00:05 RealBadAngel because it looks like indexed one 00:05 RealBadAngel tried to add tables with nil between them 00:05 RealBadAngel nothing works 00:05 Voltaire So your saying it expectes an indexed table? 00:05 RealBadAngel looks like 00:06 RealBadAngel table of tables 00:06 RealBadAngel but no way to index "fixed" table 00:06 RealBadAngel when i define them like i pasted above 00:06 RealBadAngel with some tables empty 00:06 RealBadAngel it works 00:07 RealBadAngel when try to prepare just set of two.... 00:07 VanessaE there. 00:07 VanessaE flowers updated (minor stuff, tweaks and details) 00:07 Voltaire table[0] = {}; table[1] = {}; 00:07 Voltaire that doesnt work? 00:08 RealBadAngel no 00:08 jin_xi never put nil in lua tables unless you took precautions 00:08 RealBadAngel i define empty ones, 6 of them 00:09 jin_xi it'll assume your table ends at nil element 00:09 RealBadAngel and when conditions are fullfilled i replace them with nodebox definition 00:09 RealBadAngel and pass to fixed always 6 tables 00:09 RealBadAngel some of them empty 00:10 RealBadAngel will upload code, its not so long so you can see 00:10 Voltaire Why always six? I think perhaps I need to read up on nodeboxs :) 00:10 jin_xi six orientations of pipes? 00:10 jin_xi oh, six coords, three per point 00:11 jin_xi two points (diagonal) per nodebox 00:11 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/wires.lua 00:11 RealBadAngel theres code 00:11 * VanessaE wants screenshots!!!!! ;-) 00:11 RealBadAngel it generates 64 nodes with all possible connections for wires 00:11 RealBadAngel i just made generator Vanessa 00:12 VanessaE oh ok 00:12 RealBadAngel placer is not here yet 00:12 * VanessaE <-- impatient ;-) 00:12 RealBadAngel as usual im fightin with lua tables 00:13 jin_xi they are not so hard, but a bit confusing at first 00:13 RealBadAngel im done now so i will now just add rules (theyre already here, loops variables are the rules ) 00:13 RealBadAngel a bit? pisses off all the time ;) 00:13 VanessaE lol 00:14 jin_xi me too ;) but then i read about them in pil and it was better 00:14 RealBadAngel i guess i will get used to them 00:14 RealBadAngel but now they refuse to work in strange situations 00:14 RealBadAngel when you r sure it should work 00:15 VanessaE so subject them to normal situations 00:15 VanessaE duh ;-) 00:15 Voltaire for x1 = 0, 1, 1 do --x- 00:15 Voltaire for x2 = 0, 1, 1 do 00:15 Voltaire ^^ are they nested for loops? 00:15 RealBadAngel those loops generate binary string 00:15 RealBadAngel 6 bit 00:15 Voltaire Basicly all the possible permutations. 00:15 RealBadAngel yes 00:16 Voltaire 2*2*2*2*2*2 00:16 RealBadAngel and rules set for generated nodebox 00:16 RealBadAngel 1 is for connection to specified direction 00:16 RealBadAngel like x+ or x- 00:17 RealBadAngel so when you place a wire in x+ direction 00:17 RealBadAngel you just have to set that bit, search for rule 00:18 RealBadAngel and replace node with another one with found rule 00:18 RealBadAngel bang, wires connected 00:18 VanessaE impressive 00:19 RealBadAngel rules will be just numbers 00:19 RealBadAngel 0-63 00:19 RealBadAngel so no tables, multiple variables 00:20 RealBadAngel easy as piece of cake to found proper nodebox 00:21 RealBadAngel on destroying node, you just have to remove coresponding bits 00:21 RealBadAngel search for new rules 00:21 RealBadAngel and replace nodes again 00:21 RealBadAngel all connections will update 00:22 RealBadAngel like this magic-block 00:22 RealBadAngel in exact way 00:24 Voltaire RealBadAngel: How can you define a wire not joined? 00:25 RealBadAngel 0 00:25 RealBadAngel no connections to any side 00:25 Voltaire http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/symbols/wirenj.gif 00:25 Voltaire Like that i mean. 00:25 VanessaE a crossover 00:25 Voltaire Real headache for MC. Yeh. Exactly VanessaE. 00:26 RealBadAngel no problem at all with redpower 00:26 RealBadAngel wait a sec 00:27 RealBadAngel http://nemesis.evalq.net/RedPower2/recipes.html 00:27 RealBadAngel look for Null Cell 00:27 jin_xi hm, but are all of your nodeboxes different or are they rotated? 00:28 RealBadAngel theyre made of 6 basic ones 00:28 RealBadAngel from center to each side 00:28 jin_xi you could use param2 and look up rotate dirs with your binary scheme 00:28 RealBadAngel no i cant 00:29 RealBadAngel i will destroy rules than 00:29 Voltaire Vertical null cell? 00:29 RealBadAngel can be mounted on wall, ceiling whatever 00:29 RealBadAngel like all redwire logic cells and wires 00:30 VanessaE now what if you have three wires crossing, none of which connect? 00:30 VanessaE i.e. one parallel to the X axis, one to Y, and one to Z 00:30 RealBadAngel for 3 or more wires there are bundled cables 00:30 VanessaE is this a configuration the mod will support? 00:30 VanessaE nonono 00:30 RealBadAngel 16 signal in one block 00:30 VanessaE look at the image Voltaire posted 00:31 RealBadAngel i did 00:31 RealBadAngel simple schematics 00:31 VanessaE imagine a third wire running orthogonal to the crossover on the right 00:31 RealBadAngel but we dont really need such stuff 00:31 VanessaE ok 00:31 VanessaE I didn't think so, just needed to ask :-) 00:31 Voltaire Im sure that is what Notch said about Null cells. 00:32 RealBadAngel those are symbols created to make schematics clearer and easier to understand 00:32 RealBadAngel in real life wire goes away, down and back up ;) 00:33 Voltaire True. But then you have multilayer boards. 00:33 RealBadAngel and we do have 00:33 RealBadAngel even in CPU's 00:33 RealBadAngel lots lots of layers 00:33 Voltaire So perhaps we need meta blocks. 00:34 VanessaE I think it should be kept simple 00:34 RealBadAngel notch is pissed of at such stuff like redwire 00:34 RealBadAngel and optifine 00:34 VanessaE an X/Z crossover like that ------> seems okay to me 00:34 VanessaE an X/Y/Z crossover is probably overkill 00:34 RealBadAngel wanted to buy the code from authors 00:34 Voltaire I mean its a crime that you have to create a small castle just to house the logic for your door chime. 00:34 RealBadAngel and they said no 00:35 RealBadAngel and hes not able to create such things lol 00:35 VanessaE heh 00:35 VanessaE minetest has such potential to beat the crap out of minecraft eventually :-) 00:35 VanessaE hundreds of eyes looking at the code, modding, making textures, running servers 00:35 VanessaE and all of it open source 00:35 RealBadAngel and notch is foolin around to optimize his code 00:36 Voltaire I just want to free the players to create anything. Its so cool looking on youtube looking at all the things people come up with, that you just never would have thought of when creating the basic elements. 00:36 RealBadAngel well, not notch anymore 00:36 RealBadAngel he passed that on his man 00:37 RealBadAngel jeb if i remember correctly 00:37 RealBadAngel yes, building is awesome 00:37 RealBadAngel but now we have 1st to create tools for it :) 00:38 RealBadAngel which is also actually fun 00:38 Voltaire yip :) 00:38 RealBadAngel ok, im going back to coding 00:39 RealBadAngel i want my wires be functional tonight 00:39 VanessaE and I wanna see screenshots of ;-) 00:40 VanessaE RealBadAngel: when you get the placement algo done you should send all pertinent info to Jeija so his can benefit too 00:42 Voltaire What if when placing a "wire" node on a "side" of a wire node...you just added a junction in that direction? 00:43 RealBadAngel i check first if neighbour is "cablelike" 00:44 RealBadAngel then in direction x+ of placed block i change rule x- of neighbour 00:44 RealBadAngel that will cause them to connect 00:45 RealBadAngel both nodes have now new sets of rules 00:45 RealBadAngel and will have to be replaced with nodes with new rules 00:45 Voltaire RealBadAngel: But I just wanted to run the two wires parallel, 00:46 RealBadAngel one block between then 00:46 Voltaire RealBadAngel: Perhaps a crimp/cutter tool to add a junction on that side of the block? 00:46 RealBadAngel cables of the same kind will connect always 00:46 jin_xi like rails? 00:46 VanessaE so then you need a "neutral" and "hot" wire? 00:46 Voltaire RealBadAngle: Yeh. But why? 00:46 RealBadAngel we can make a trick and use isolated ones 00:47 VanessaE or just different circuits 00:47 RealBadAngel that will connect only to those with same coloured isolation 00:47 VanessaE insulation. 00:47 RealBadAngel or not isolated ones 00:47 Voltaire It actually made redstone really complicated, when you found wires connecting for no real reason. 00:48 RealBadAngel redstone is shit 00:48 RealBadAngel check out redwires 00:48 RealBadAngel mod is called Red Power 2 00:48 cornernote hey 00:48 cornernote how cool does the workers mod look ?? 00:48 RealBadAngel it even has programmable computer with 6502 procesor onboard 00:49 Voltaire I just notticed :) 00:49 cornernote i think i'll have to setup a PVP server soon 00:49 RealBadAngel you can code it in assembler 00:49 VanessaE cornernote: quote cool from what I've seen 00:49 RealBadAngel or provided forth compiler 00:49 VanessaE 6502 assembly FTW! 00:49 RealBadAngel and write control programs for your circuits 00:49 Voltaire RealBadAngel: I think thats kind of cool. And kind of bad in equal measure. 00:49 * VanessaE <-- C64 geek :-) 00:50 RealBadAngel :) 00:50 RealBadAngel its up to you what you will do 00:50 cornernote what are we talking about ? 00:50 VanessaE everything :-) 00:50 RealBadAngel you can even write games inside a game 00:50 RealBadAngel seen folks playin tetris on computer in minecraft 00:50 VanessaE cornernote: RBA's talking about a mod in minecraft 00:51 cornernote mesecons ? 00:51 RealBadAngel no 00:51 cornernote oh, redstone ? 00:51 VanessaE nono, mineCRAFT this time (redpower) 00:51 RealBadAngel its way better 00:51 RealBadAngel red power 2 mod 00:51 VanessaE so now I guess the idea is to bring that functionality to minetest 00:51 RealBadAngel its like redstone in several hundreds yrs in the future ;) 00:52 cornernote reading 00:52 Voltaire Is RedPower2 minetest? 00:52 VanessaE RealBadAngel: we'll call it MesePower ;-) 00:52 RealBadAngel no 00:52 VanessaE aw 00:52 jin_xi real bad angel dust? 00:52 RealBadAngel Eloraam wrote it, she writes shes own game 00:52 RealBadAngel called Minia i think 00:53 RealBadAngel and created one of the best and most complex mods ever made for minecraft 00:54 cornernote looks really sweet 00:54 cornernote and im only at the tip of what it is 00:54 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQuC4eJ2aqo 00:55 RealBadAngel heres a guy which makes ruby goldberg machine with it 00:55 RealBadAngel one of the episodes of his letsplay 00:55 RealBadAngel you can c there what redpower can do 00:56 RealBadAngel in fact not only redpower, he play with shitload of mods 00:56 Voltaire RealBadAngel: My worry about assembly stuff is that its kind of hard. I know people who get redstone but dont get assembly. I dont think its bad to have divides like that, but its a hell of a jump from redstone to assembly. 00:56 RealBadAngel its at the very end 00:56 RealBadAngel look at the wires 00:57 RealBadAngel bundled cables 00:57 RealBadAngel jacketed cables 00:57 RealBadAngel logic gates 00:57 Voltaire I no, i think that stuff is awsome. :) 00:57 Voltaire But why create logic gates for people? 00:57 MineTestUser I finally understand Boolean Algebra! 00:57 NakedFury hi 00:57 MineTestUser To a point 00:57 Voltaire If you have meta blocks you could create the logic gates yourself and hide them in yoru own custom blocks. 00:58 RealBadAngel because normal ppl want to actually bulid logic circuits 00:58 RealBadAngel that do somethin more like openin the door 00:58 RealBadAngel and covering whole valley with it 00:58 NakedFury working on some 1 0 mod? electricity? 00:59 RealBadAngel no 00:59 RealBadAngel we just talkin bout one in MC 00:59 MineTestUser If you create mese logic getes in a brick, I will give you internet cake. Once I get an account. 00:59 Voltaire Thats fine. Well if they can create blue prints from these meta blocks they can create it themselves. Even if they just go on a website to learn first time...it kind of sticks. 00:59 RealBadAngel i got no point creating mese mod when theres one already 01:00 MineTestUser but mese logic in a brick? 01:00 RealBadAngel that could be done 01:00 RealBadAngel easily 01:00 MineTestUser But I don't know Lua 01:00 RealBadAngel all the and, not, nor, xor, whatever 01:00 RealBadAngel timers, latches 01:01 MineTestUser The possibilities are ENDLESS 01:01 MineTestUser Also, are you able to make wireless transmitters and inverters with mesecons? It won't let me 01:01 Voltaire mese? 01:01 NakedFury that would be interesting 01:02 RealBadAngel http://nemesis.evalq.net/RedPower2/recipes.html 01:02 RealBadAngel look at the recipes and descriptions 01:03 RealBadAngel at this point in time i got no interest in messing with mesecons 01:03 RealBadAngel got my own work to do 01:04 RealBadAngel got shitload of stuff to code 01:04 Voltaire mescons? 01:04 Voltaire mesecons? 01:04 RealBadAngel its like minecraft redstone 01:05 MineTestUser only without signal loss 01:05 cornernote and pistons cant point up 01:05 Voltaire Yeh. No point with signal loss. Circuits would be better if they "existed" outside of the world. 01:05 MineTestUser Yeah... 01:06 RealBadAngel that was made on purpose 01:06 RealBadAngel to cut the server's load 01:06 Voltaire In theory you could turn circuits into lua. 01:06 RealBadAngel so mesecons 01:06 MineTestUser It's either on or it's off. 1 or 0. In theory, someone COULD make a whole computer from mesecons. No idea why you would though. 01:06 Voltaire lol. power plants :) 01:06 RealBadAngel for fun 01:07 MineTestUser Angel: No 01:07 RealBadAngel folks made running computers out of redstone 01:07 RealBadAngel search youtube 01:07 cornernote then do you think the computer you make in mesecons could run a ported version of minetest ? 01:07 cornernote =) 01:07 RealBadAngel enormous projects 01:07 MineTestUser They definitely don't have lives... 01:07 Voltaire They make a computer from redstone. But it had the problem that as chunks went outside of view it stoped working, or lost its "memory". 01:07 MineTestUser oh 01:08 RealBadAngel there are ways to prevent unloading 01:08 Voltaire make* = made 01:08 RealBadAngel many mods add such ways 01:08 MineTestUser Interesting... 01:08 RealBadAngel like railcraft's world anchor 01:09 Voltaire Im sure, but if its all connected...why not turn it into a single "program"/"circuit" that isnt dependant on the chunks at all. 01:09 MineTestUser Sorry, I have never played the latest Minecraft, just the free Java version... 01:09 RealBadAngel and whenever you go like 9 chunks around anchor stays loaded 01:09 RealBadAngel and all the stuff is workin 01:09 MineTestUser lol 01:09 MineTestUser I think 01:10 Voltaire Have you guys heard of scratch? 01:11 Voltaire http://scratch.mit.edu/ 01:13 MineTestUser no 01:13 VanessaE heard of it, yes. never used it though 01:15 Voltaire I played with it a little, its to restrictive for a programmer, but good for a newbie. 01:15 MineTestUser why? 01:16 Voltaire It teaches to program. With the ability to visually control stuff that works well for getting the feel of making something that "does" soemthing. 01:17 MineTestUser Meh, I use Engine001 for game programming 01:17 VanessaE BASIC ftw :-) 01:17 Voltaire And avoid the main problem with programming - the syntax of the language. 01:17 VanessaE too bad Blassic is a dead project, that thing's ideal for the n00b and is useful for experienced programmers as well 01:18 MineTestUser Basic is dead because it was limiting. 01:18 Voltaire 99% of newbie programmer errors are down to missed backets and semicolons etc. Forgeting what they can do etc. Even before they get to all the logic errors. 01:18 VanessaE BASIC ain't dead, it's just in a coma. :-) 01:18 MineTestUser lol 01:19 Bad_Command_ *persistent vegitative state 01:19 VanessaE hey BC 01:19 Voltaire it went visual. sort of zombie basic. 01:19 VanessaE heh 01:19 Bad_Command Hi 01:19 MineTestUser Anyone ever tried Roblox Lua? 01:20 VanessaE what is it? 01:21 MineTestUser It's a fork of lua used specifically for the online building thingy Roblox. It's like regular lua (very object-oriented) but some small things are changed. 01:23 MineTestUser I personally hate scripting.... 01:23 Voltaire I want a visual language...I make way to many spolling errors. 01:24 MineTestUser You could use Engine001. It says that it is just a game maker but I have made many different things with it. I am currently working on a database engine. 01:24 MineTestUser Sorta 01:25 Voltaire ? 01:27 Voltaire database engine? 01:28 MineTestUser Yes. Actually it's in a pre-dev stage. Still planning it out. 01:28 Voltaire Is it for engine001? 01:28 MineTestUser It will be made with engine001. 01:32 Voltaire I had a quick look at a tutorial for it, and it semed to have alot of dialog boxes, wasnt very clear what was going on really 01:32 Voltaire It was just a quick look. 01:33 MineTestUser It does include a lot of dialog boxes. It is a visual way of scripting. I found it very easy to use. 01:34 mrtux I'm going to play minetest 01:34 * mrtux is away: playing minetest 01:35 MineTestUser lol 01:35 mrtux wat 01:35 MineTestUser I just found that funny. 01:36 Voltaire The version i have of minetest doesnt have much to do. No mobs or anything, or am i missing something? 01:37 MineTestUser No mobs in Minetest anymore. 01:38 mrtux celeron55 was working on a mobs mod 01:39 MineTestUser But isn't he still away? 01:39 mrtux no 01:39 MineTestUser oh, good 01:39 mrtux he's been working on minetest, check his github, some activity 01:39 * VanessaE just pounded a hole in the wall trying to get the upstairs neighbors to knock off the noise 01:39 VanessaE OOPS. :-) 01:39 MineTestUser I see 01:39 MineTestUser * hi 01:39 VanessaE (already spackled it) 01:42 MineTestUser how did you do that? 01:43 VanessaE literally pounding my fist on the wall too hard :-) 01:43 MineTestUser no, the chat... :lol: 01:43 VanessaE sheetrock ("gypsum", "drywall") ain't very strong when you're pissed ;-) 01:44 MineTestUser uhh 01:48 VanessaE hey neko 01:48 VanessaE MineTestUser: what then? 01:48 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 01:48 MineTestUser what then? 01:49 VanessaE neko: new flowers mod, get it :-) 01:49 VanessaE MineTestUser: [08-06 21:42] how did you do that? 01:49 VanessaE how did I do what, if not the hole in the wall? 01:49 NekoGloop Oooh :3 01:49 MineTestUser Say the strange shout thing 01:49 NekoGloop I'm having difficulties with my own mod atm :P 01:49 VanessaE OH 01:50 VanessaE /me does something 01:50 * VanessaE does something 01:50 VanessaE that. 01:50 MineTestUser I see 01:50 * MineTestUser needs to get a life 01:50 MineTestUser :duck: 01:50 * NekoGloop has one, selling for 1000 mese :3 01:50 MineTestUser me/ will take it 01:50 VanessaE those :actions: don't work here :-) 01:50 MineTestUser oops 01:50 * MineTestUser will take it 01:51 NekoGloop You bought it :3 01:51 VanessaE neko: what about the other 8? ;-) 01:51 * NekoGloop departs his sould into minetestuser 01:51 * MineTestUser ow 01:51 NekoGloop That's not part of the deal, I said one :3 01:51 * MineTestUser said ow 01:51 NekoGloop VanessaE, y u so smart :3 01:51 VanessaE because I just...am? ;-) 01:52 * MineTestUser is smart too 01:52 VanessaE I'm smart, but compared to Stephen Hawking, I'm a blithering moron ;-) 01:52 NekoGloop Well I have no idea who that is 01:52 VanessaE WHAT!? 01:52 VanessaE *passes out* 01:53 * MineTestUser says "kick him while he's down! 01:53 * NekoGloop kicks minetestuser 01:53 NekoGloop You mean *her*? ;) 01:53 MineTestUser uhh 01:53 VanessaE he's only the smartest man in the world (afaic), theoretical physicist. Stricken with ALS many years ago, has to use a power wheelchair to move, a computer to talk,etc. 01:53 MineTestUser *nothing to do here* 01:55 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 01:55 MineTestUser A KAT 01:55 * FreeFull licks NekoGloop 01:56 * MineTestUser runs 01:56 * NekoGloop is licked(?) 01:56 VanessaE haha 01:56 FreeFull Tastes of cat 01:56 MineTestUser NOOO NEKOGLOOP 01:56 VanessaE well that's one way to get pu...... 01:56 VanessaE no, I can't say it. 01:56 * MineTestUser backs away 01:56 NekoGloop what, vanessae? 01:56 FreeFull putty 01:57 MineTestUser This so conforms to the topic 01:58 VanessaE minetest has nyancats. QED. 01:58 VanessaE :) 01:58 * MineTestUser rides a nyancat 01:59 Voltaire Minetest just seems very empty. MC mobs do give you something to try to protect yourself against. Though they are far to limited. 01:59 * MineTestUser 's mouse driver crased, goodbye 02:00 VanessaE Voltaire: Animals. (now in 3d) 02:00 Voltaire lol. Just gave myself hickupts. 02:00 Voltaire picturing a 2d creaper - you would have no chance of seeing it side on :) 02:01 Voltaire Invisble and silent. 02:01 VanessaE no. no creepers 02:01 VanessaE none of that junk from minecraft 02:01 VanessaE hell I prefer no mobs at all, just other players to build and chat wit 02:01 VanessaE with8 02:01 Voltaire Creepers were one of the most effective mobs. 02:03 cornernote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMmIKYUQW7U - lol 02:03 Voltaire Vanessae: I just think you need a certain amount of conflict to inject life into the system. I love the social aspect, but you need to cater to all the cardinal player types. 02:05 cornernote oh, even better - naughts and crosses game - http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_597807&feature=iv&src_vid=LNceUkQ1_RA&v=6y30Zt5aY5s 02:05 cornernote wow thats impressive 02:05 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 02:05 VanessaE noughts and crosses? you mean tic-tac-toe. :-) 02:05 cornernote yeah, that too 02:05 VanessaE damn brits trying to rename everything ;-) 02:06 Voltaire VanessaE: You do realise we had bluetouth working in the late 1800's? 02:06 Voltaire BC. 02:06 Voltaire :) 02:07 Voltaire http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=nWALarlARSE 02:07 NekoGloop well blue teeth are a side effect of eating certain berries 02:08 NekoGloop I love me a good spleef match, dont you? 02:10 Voltaire That one was done in redstone, imagine how just using RedPower would have shrunk that down. 02:11 cornernote its so huge 02:11 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 02:11 Voltaire Just to create a calculator. 02:11 cornernote i built a piston that fills a pool with water and i was impressed 02:13 VanessaE criminy 02:13 VanessaE that's huge 02:13 VanessaE think it could be re-done with mesecons? :-) 02:13 NekoGloop Most definitly 02:13 Voltaire Imagine if you could cram all that into a meta-node? 02:14 cornernote lol, why ? 02:14 cornernote so you can run a computer program ingame from 1 node 02:14 Voltaire Yeh. But you created it yourself. 02:14 cornernote theres a better way, just run the function you want to run on the node 02:15 cornernote i can still say i created it myself 02:15 cornernote using only 3 lines of code instead of 10 million 02:15 Voltaire But players can do it without having a mod installed. The mod that creates the meta levels could turn it into lua code anyway. 02:17 Voltaire conernote: Odly enough blocks that do everything for you arent as much fun as if you can do it yourself. 02:20 NekoGloop Who killed UN Owen? 02:20 Voltaire Anyway. Im going to sleep - apparently I cant stay awake for days withouth seeing things. 02:20 Voltaire vexing. 02:21 mrtux night 02:24 NekoGloop Voltaire is snoozing 02:24 Voltaire|snooze Oh no he isnt. 02:25 Voltaire|snooze Omg. Bad panto! 02:25 Voltaire|snooze ok. snoozing now 02:26 Voltaire|snooze Out of curriosity, any good servers to connect to? 02:26 NekoGloop Zenoheld the Backstab 02:26 cornernote watching those videos about redstone computers... so amazing real computers can do so much, when you look at it on a real-life scale of how things work 02:26 NekoGloop minetest.freedns.in:30000 02:27 SegFault22 hey all, I'm trying to add an owner to a lot in a city, with node ownership, but it is not working. 02:27 SegFault22 Whenever I execute the command, nothing happens, and upon asking the server for the list, the area is not listed 02:28 cornernote SegFault22, does the user running mt have write access to the folder where it stores the area data ? 02:28 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_opBqRtPTDE UN OWEN WAS A SPARTAN!!!!! 02:28 SegFault22 UGH 02:29 SegFault22 no, the player is not even online - wait I just remembered...that's right... 02:29 SegFault22 node ownership is so primitive/badly coded that you can't add owners if the owner you are adding is offline... 02:29 Voltaire|snooze NekoGloop: Ive got an old client i guess. Thanks anyways. Will try again later in the week. 02:29 NekoGloop It's 0.4.2-rc1 :3 02:29 SegFault22 and it doesn't even tell you if the area is sucesfully added or not... 02:30 SegFault22 what a joke...who would such a n00b even publish that... 02:30 SegFault22 ]bye all 02:30 Voltaire|snooze 0.4.1 is the version I have. 02:30 Voltaire|snooze Anyway. Sleep time. 02:30 Voltaire|snooze Ive got 3 hours then i have to get up again. 02:30 Voltaire|snooze Im going to OD on coffee and sugar tomorrow. 02:31 NekoGloop Get it on the blog 02:31 Voltaire|snooze blog? 02:31 cornernote SegFault22, what a nice sounding guy 02:32 Voltaire|snooze cornernote: Could be worse. CoreDump22 02:32 NekoGloop c55's blog :P 02:32 cornernote SegFault22, i know u went offline, but if you read the logs then you may see this... if you have such a problem with the mod then release it coded better instead of complaining about it 02:32 Voltaire|snooze NekoGloop: Ahh cool. Will do first thing tomorrow...err..today....when i have woken up again. 02:33 cornernote or demand your money back for a faulty product 02:33 NekoGloop lmao comma 02:33 cornernote oh wait, you never paid anything 02:33 NekoGloop coma* 02:33 cornernote can't stand people like that 02:48 * mrtux is back (gone 01:13:52) 02:54 FreeFull cornernote: The difference is that real computers don't generally need repeaters ;) 02:55 FreeFull And have elements much smaller than 1m by 1m by 1m 03:09 khonkhortisan did gameboom just go down? 03:13 cornernote http://www.gamesradar.com/guy-makes-minecraft-playing-computer-minecraft/ 03:13 cornernote a redstone invention that lets him place blocks 03:14 cornernote like on a computer screen 03:14 khonkhortisan I like how the wool shows the different circuits 03:15 cornernote "debugging was fuuun" lol 03:15 cornernote can only imagine 03:18 cornernote now the next thing... making a redstone computer that can play a game of minetest that has a redstone computer that can play minetest 03:18 * NekoGloop pokes cornernote 03:19 cornernote i keep saying minetest 03:19 cornernote u know what i mean 03:19 NekoGloop Well then say mesecons too :3 03:19 cornernote i ment minecraft 03:20 khonkhortisan http://www.theonion.com/video/warcraft-sequel-lets-gamers-play-a-character-playi,14240/ A similar thing I was sent the link to recently 03:20 khonkhortisan but wow instead of mc/mt 03:20 khonkhortisan I get all my news from the onion 03:22 khonkhortisan did something happen to the gameboom server? I'm not connecting. Was it turned off? 03:22 NekoGloop Screw gameboom, play on minetest.freedns.in:30000 :3 03:23 GTRsdk how many players? 03:23 khonkhortisan must be a new texture pack 03:23 NekoGloop A lot 03:24 NekoGloop Lotsa players :3 03:24 GTRsdk :o 03:24 * GTRsdk woudl like to have lotsa players on his server to see if it has issues or not 03:24 GTRsdk though minecraft server stuff said I could do 100+ 03:24 khonkhortisan I have to fix that segfault one of these days 03:25 khonkhortisan my atlas is full 03:25 NekoGloop all of our atlases are full 03:25 NekoGloop deal with it like the rest of us 03:27 cornernote khonkhortisan - onion news is awesome =) 03:27 cornernote wowow 04:18 cornernote this one is even more advanced - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwHBaSySHmo 04:19 VanessaE just played around with mesecons for a bit.. meh 04:19 cornernote what did you think ? 04:19 VanessaE of the video? 04:19 cornernote i built really small things, mostly with pistons 04:19 cornernote no, of mesecons 04:19 VanessaE mesecons needs...work. 04:20 cornernote yeah 04:20 cornernote and docs 04:20 VanessaE stuff is non-intuitive 04:20 VanessaE wires don't rotate and join in ways that visually make sense 04:20 VanessaE jeija's nodeboxes suck :-) 04:20 cornernote wire looks funny when it joins 04:20 VanessaE you mean those lumps in the middle of the wire? 04:23 cornernote yeah 04:24 cornernote and it doesnt stick to the sides of nodes well 04:24 VanessaE I kept the lumps there for historic reasons. 04:24 VanessaE I suppoe I could submit new textures without the lumps. 04:24 VanessaE (current mesecons textures are ones I submitted) 04:25 cornernote look at all these in-game games made from redstone - http://www.youtube.com/user/CodeCrafted?feature=watch ... thats really amazing 04:26 cornernote some look like they would be really fun to code in lua as mini-minetest games 04:28 VanessaE interesting 04:28 cornernote will be amazing when mt/mesecons is that advanced 04:28 cornernote because 1 world can house all those games (i hope) 04:32 cornernote this one is cool, i think it wouldnt be all that hard to code in lua: 04:32 cornernote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXoQehuIYzg&feature=BFa&list=PL818997AE9E1D0B0C 04:32 cornernote doesnt even look like he used that much redstone 04:34 VanessaE hm 04:39 * VanessaE ponders the ides of just rewriting mesecons entirely. 04:40 VanessaE the result would take me forever to finish and would likely not be compatible. 04:40 VanessaE (with the current mod) 04:40 cornernote mesecons is a modpack, much of it is fine 04:40 VanessaE or maybe when RealBadAngel finishes the high-power mod he's working on 04:43 cornernote check this mini-game out too 04:43 cornernote http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_862823&feature=iv&src_vid=BoXV4-4itSM&v=g0WZSwgYMAA 04:43 cornernote its a how-to of how he made it 04:43 cornernote the actual game is 4 player 04:43 * VanessaE looks 04:43 cornernote heres the actual game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT-WciX7vDU&feature=relmfu 04:45 VanessaE hm, must be a lot of audio commentary 04:45 VanessaE another time maybe 04:45 VanessaE (I watch youtube mostly with the audio muted so I can keep my music going) 04:46 cornernote watch the 2nd one 04:46 cornernote the 1st one is a lot of explaining how it works 04:50 khonkhortisan Bad_Command: You there? The gameboom server appears to be down for me. 04:50 Bad_Command let me see 04:51 Bad_Command yup seems to be down 04:52 Bad_Command I left a message for ghostshell 04:52 khonkhortisan okay. I was almost 2/20ths done with the sponge 05:45 SegFault22 meh? 05:45 SegFault22 meh -.- 05:45 SegFault22 where's celeron... 05:48 cornernote who's that ? 05:51 SegFault22 Celeron55...? 05:52 SegFault22 the creator of Minetest? 05:53 cornernote it was a joke, i have never seen him speak in this chatroom 05:54 VanessaE c55 does not join this channel. 05:54 VanessaE too much traffic, distractions. 06:09 cornernote kida are home from school, just put on 100 hours of nyan cat inside and then went came back out -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA5DsLzSVrk 06:09 cornernote kids even 06:13 VanessaE heh 06:28 cornernote anyone running a server ? 06:30 sfan5 http://server.minetest.ru 06:31 cornernote can you give me permission to login ? 06:32 cornernote mt.0.4.1 right ? 06:39 cornernote is gameboom up ? 06:55 sfan5 cornernote: what? 07:06 cornernote i couldnt login 08:34 cornernote is there any way to reload a lua function without restarting the game ? 08:35 VanessaE there, mesecons sucks just a teeny bit less now. :-) 08:35 cornernote where ? 08:35 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-mod-mesecons 08:36 VanessaE I set jeija a few pull requests to improve the appearance of some objects 08:37 VanessaE nothing major, just some tweaks to nodeboxes, texture usage, etc. 08:38 cornernote nice 08:38 cornernote can u do 1 more thing ? 08:38 VanessaE hm? 08:38 cornernote some animation when the mesecon is active 08:39 cornernote particles, or something 08:39 VanessaE like what? 08:39 VanessaE oh 08:39 VanessaE the particles mod has something for that already, supposedly 08:39 cornernote have a look at redstone 08:39 cornernote for me its just on and off, when its on it glows 08:39 cornernote but in daylight its hard to see 08:39 VanessaE (but the rate at which particles are spawned on mesecons is so slow I never see 'em, and torch smoke doesn't spawn too often either) 08:41 cornernote on redstone it spawns on all of them, like all the time 08:41 VanessaE Yeah I know 08:41 VanessaE I've seen that in videos 08:41 cornernote they look like they are bubbling 08:41 cornernote i'd like to see the piston go up too 08:42 cornernote perhaps on_punch it can rotate it ? 08:42 VanessaE I'll let jeija figure that out :-) 08:54 cornernote other than paramtype2 = "facedir" .. is there any way to rotate nodes ? 08:55 VanessaE you can force param2 = in an add_node() call 08:55 VanessaE other than that, you'll have to literally do the math 08:55 VanessaE (i.e. rotate it the hard ware) 08:55 VanessaE (hard way) 08:57 cornernote ok, can set node.param2 = 0-5 08:59 cornernote so it could be something as simple as this in the piston mod 08:59 VanessaE no 08:59 VanessaE pistons use nodeboxes 09:00 VanessaE afaik, you can't rotate such vertically 09:00 VanessaE only between X/Z faces. 09:01 cornernote i'll try 09:07 cornernote any way to reload lua without restarting ? 09:07 VanessaE not thgat I know of 09:08 thexyz what do you mean by "reload lua"? 09:09 cornernote like i change my function 09:09 thexyz you can do it from lua 09:09 cornernote and i need to re-read/parse/whatever the lua code so it does the new thing 09:09 cornernote can u give me a link ? 09:10 cornernote or an example ? 09:10 thexyz for example, you have a = function() 09:11 thexyz check every second for some file (update.txt) presence 09:11 thexyz if there is such file, make a = loadstring(contents_from_file) 09:11 thexyz hacky, but should work 09:11 thexyz btw, there is also loadfile 09:12 cornernote so i could re-run loadfile ? 09:12 thexyz http://www.lua.org/pil/8.html 09:17 VanessaE woo! my updates to mesecons were accepted (thanks sfan5 :-) ) 09:18 VanessaE well most of them 09:18 cornernote yeah, the param2 doesnt help.. its not that simple :( 09:21 VanessaE cornernote: minetest.env:add_node(p_top, {name = , param2 = }) 09:21 cornernote also had to do this 09:21 cornernote function mesecon:piston_get_direction(node) 09:22 cornernote add 2 more lines to the if/else 09:22 VanessaE where direction is 1-4 for nodes that can only rotate between X/Z axes, or 0-5 (I think) for signlike nodes that can go on any of the 6 sides 09:22 cornernote 4 is down, 5 is up ? 09:22 cornernote or other way around ? 09:22 VanessaE don't remember 09:22 VanessaE p_top in the above is the position you want to place the node in 09:23 cornernote yeah, i have like this (sorry to paste) 09:23 cornernote on_punch = function(pos, node, puncher) 09:23 cornernote if (node.param2 == 5) then 09:23 cornernote node.param2 = 0 09:23 cornernote else 09:23 cornernote node.param2 = node.param2+1; 09:23 cornernote end 09:23 cornernote minetest.env:add_node(pos, node) 09:23 cornernote end, 09:23 cornernote i think this is it.. 2 secs.. 09:23 jin_xi you can use minetest.dir_to_facedir(dir) or .dir_to_wallmounted 09:24 cornernote yeah, works 09:24 cornernote jin_xi, i want to rotate it to face upwards 09:24 cornernote the piston 09:25 cornernote works, except nodeboxes are wrong 09:25 VanessaE I don't think nodeboxes can rotate from X/Z -> Y 09:25 jin_xi i mean to see the values of param2 given a direction and a drawing style 09:25 cornernote we need 4 more items then i guess? to make it look pretty... piston_pusher_normal_up piston_pusher_normal_down 09:26 cornernote or just 1... piston_pusher_normal_withoutnodebox 09:34 * XarpeSerpe salute you 09:35 * VanessaE declines a the return salute :-) 09:35 * XarpeSerpe ¬_¬ 09:35 XarpeSerpe :-) Hello 09:36 XarpeSerpe I have a problem with minetestserver, it runs, but I can see port 30000 09:36 VanessaE cornernote: unless you can find a way to make those nodeboxes rotate to +/-Y, you're going to need something like 12 new nodes: 3 types of pistons (stone, wood, sticky) times two nodes each (plunger and body), times 2 directions (facing up and down) 09:37 VanessaE can or cannot? 09:37 XarpeSerpe sorry can not 09:37 XarpeSerpe :-9 09:38 VanessaE you probably need to tell your router or modem to forward it 09:38 VanessaE or your firewall is blocking it 09:38 XarpeSerpe I think I m not allowed 09:38 VanessaE not allowed by whom? 09:38 XarpeSerpe debian 09:38 VanessaE debian ain't gonna stop you :-) 09:39 XarpeSerpe I do nmap 127.0.0.1 and I cannot see port of minetestserver 09:39 VanessaE is the server actually running and listening on that address? 09:39 XarpeSerpe but minetestserver runs 09:39 VanessaE (if you gave it an explicit address to run on, the answer will probably be "no") 09:39 XarpeSerpe no 09:40 XarpeSerpe I mapped ports and i could see ssh port, and apache port, but not minetestserver port 09:41 thexyz XarpeSerpe: read man nmap 09:41 XarpeSerpe Iptables are open to all 09:41 VanessaE I just tried it, I can connect to my own server easily. 09:41 XarpeSerpe thexyz, thanks 09:41 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ minetestserver --port 30000 --worldname blah 09:41 thexyz XarpeSerpe: nmap by default scans TCP ports 09:41 thexyz use -sU to scan UDP 09:41 VanessaE then tell the client to connect to 127.0.0.1 port 30000. 09:42 XarpeSerpe thaxyz thanks 09:42 thexyz also use -p to specify ports range 09:43 thexyz for example, sudo nmap minetest.ru -sU -p 30000-30005 09:46 XarpeSerpe 30000/udp open|filtered unknown 09:46 XarpeSerpe its open, ok 09:47 XarpeSerpe but I think I need to bind this port to minetestserver instance, no? 09:48 thexyz no, you don't need to do that 09:49 thexyz if it shows as open|filtered it is already opened 09:49 thexyz try running minetestserver & minetest and connecting to 127.0.0.1:30000 09:49 thexyz it should work 09:50 XarpeSerpe ok 09:50 XarpeSerpe thanks 10:07 * XarpeSerpe maked chof 10:29 PilzAdam Hello 10:29 jin_xi hi adam 10:30 PilzAdam whats up? 10:30 jin_xi not much... 10:30 PilzAdam :( 10:44 OddGandalf does someone have a better name for "minetest" ? 10:44 OddGandalf im gonna put up a proper site but before buying a domain i need a more permanent name 12:07 Calinou http://www.speedtest.net/result/2106118840.png 12:07 Calinou :D 12:21 RealBadAngel @OddGandalf: MineBox? 12:22 OddGandalf taken. 12:23 thexyz what's problem with minetest? 12:23 RealBadAngel invoice sent ;) 12:23 thexyz it's not going to be changed 12:23 OddGandalf "test" implies it's not a full game 12:23 thexyz no, it doesn't 12:23 RealBadAngel yes it does 12:23 thexyz and name is not going to be changed, as i already said 12:24 RealBadAngel but site for it can have different name 12:24 RealBadAngel more permament 12:24 thexyz what can be more permanent than game name? 12:24 OddGandalf a non-test name 12:25 RealBadAngel with "test" in it? 12:25 jin_xi OldGandalf: animals are in a mod 12:25 RealBadAngel lets call it then "Mining Experiment version c revision 55" 12:25 thexyz strange 12:25 thexyz that seems to be "test"-fobia 12:26 thexyz OddGandalf: then generate name for your site using pwgen tool 12:26 thexyz pwgen -0A 12:26 RealBadAngel blind typing is good for that 12:26 RealBadAngel i once typed "papsojwd" 12:27 RealBadAngel and were using it as a password for a long time lol 12:28 RealBadAngel but after a few yrs it became like a word then, not semi-random string for me 12:28 RealBadAngel so typed another one 12:49 Calinou "test" implies it's not a full game 12:49 Calinou no it doesn't 12:49 Calinou and it isn't a full game in the first place 12:49 Calinou it's not finished 12:52 RealBadAngel a problem: i define new variable in meta 12:52 RealBadAngel how to check if it is defined or not without hanging game with nil call ? 12:58 PilzAdam RealBadAngel: "if minetest.env:get_meta(pos, "name") ~= nil then" 12:58 PilzAdam RealBadAngel: sry its "if minetest.env:get_meta(pos):get_string("name") ~= nil then" 12:59 Calinou https://github.com/TacticalGenius/TexturePackConverter 12:59 Calinou :happy face: 13:04 RealBadAngel @pilzadam: thx, already figured that out, got earlier nil errors because of typo lmao 13:19 RealBadAngel you know what? 13:19 RealBadAngel whatever string i do check 13:20 RealBadAngel no matter it exists or not 13:20 RealBadAngel it returns not nil 13:21 RealBadAngel it looks like all the nodes have defined field "cablelike" 13:21 RealBadAngel if minetest.env:get_meta(pos1):get_float("cablelike") then 13:21 RealBadAngel print ("cable found!!") 13:21 RealBadAngel end 13:22 RealBadAngel ~= nil works the same 13:33 RealBadAngel yeah tested 13:33 RealBadAngel when you check for variable name in meta, it always return anything but not nil 13:34 RealBadAngel as if the variable existed, while not 13:34 RealBadAngel when you check variable value, then it works 13:35 RealBadAngel when variable doesnt exist you got nil, othwerwise its value 13:35 RealBadAngel lua has strange manners ;) 13:36 RealBadAngel if minetest.env:get_meta(pos1):get_float("cablelike")==1 then 13:36 RealBadAngel print ("cable found!!") 13:36 RealBadAngel end 13:37 RealBadAngel this one works, with check on the value,not the name just 14:14 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/qngKI.png 14:20 RealBadAngel nice 14:20 RealBadAngel and its always visible? 14:20 thexyz what do you mean by "always visible"? 14:20 thexyz from distance? 14:20 thexyz yes, it is 14:20 RealBadAngel so cool 14:21 RealBadAngel @pilzadam, youre here? 14:22 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/6e5C8.png 14:22 RealBadAngel perfect:) 14:27 PilzAdam nice 14:27 PilzAdam where can in download this? 14:28 PilzAdam *I 14:30 RealBadAngel WIP? 14:30 thexyz right 14:31 mrtux hi 14:31 RealBadAngel @pilzadam: youre partially right and wrong 14:31 RealBadAngel read what i wrote earlier? 14:31 PilzAdam nope 14:31 RealBadAngel so listen ;) 14:31 RealBadAngel checkin of variable name doesnt work 14:32 RealBadAngel you have to check variable value 14:32 RealBadAngel if variable doesnt exist you got nil, otherwise its value 14:33 RealBadAngel if you check just for name it behaves like all nodes have this name defined 14:34 PilzAdam yes i know 14:34 RealBadAngel so why pointed me in dark corner then? :P 14:35 PilzAdam ? 14:35 RealBadAngel you suggested name checking 14:35 RealBadAngel which doesnt work at all 14:36 PilzAdam maybe you can create a own nil value like "[nothing]" in "on_construct" 14:37 RealBadAngel once u know the behaviour its not a problem 14:37 RealBadAngel but its not logical 14:37 RealBadAngel checkin on name never returns nil 14:37 RealBadAngel as if check itself was creatin variable instance for a node 14:38 PilzAdam if i want to check wether a meta value is there i check always == nil and == "" 14:38 RealBadAngel predefined ones, yes 14:38 RealBadAngel but i wanted to check my own variable 14:39 RealBadAngel to distinct node from others 14:39 PilzAdam are the values createt when the node is placed or later? 14:39 RealBadAngel so defined field "cablelike", when checked it, every node seems like to have it 14:40 RealBadAngel on_create 14:40 PilzAdam wich value do you save under the name "cablelike"? 14:40 RealBadAngel egal 14:40 RealBadAngel 0, 1 true false 14:40 RealBadAngel doesnt matter 14:41 RealBadAngel check works if it has any value 14:41 RealBadAngel name doesnt count 14:41 PilzAdam just chek "~= nil" and "~= ’’" 14:41 RealBadAngel no 14:41 RealBadAngel tried it 14:42 PilzAdam let me check this... 14:42 RealBadAngel check for example if default:cobble has field "dumbass" 14:42 NekoGloop Boo :P 14:42 RealBadAngel it will have it 14:43 RealBadAngel but if you check dumbass==nil 14:43 RealBadAngel then it will work 14:44 NekoGloop Hi rba 14:44 RealBadAngel check is on the value not the field's existance 14:44 RealBadAngel hi 14:45 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 14:45 RealBadAngel thats why any node returned to me "cablelike" field true 14:46 RealBadAngel once checked if cablelike==value 14:46 RealBadAngel then only cables reported to have that field 14:47 NekoGloop Ranting about your electricity mod again? 14:47 RealBadAngel still 14:47 RealBadAngel fighting with lua nuances 14:47 PilzAdam Okay here my results: 14:47 NekoGloop I might eventually try it :P 14:47 PilzAdam meta-string always have the value "" 14:48 PilzAdam (if u dont change them) 14:48 RealBadAngel even not defined 14:48 PilzAdam meta-floats always have the value 0 (if you dont change them) 14:48 RealBadAngel thats why u get ~nil 14:49 PilzAdam u can not get nil with meta:get_string or meta:get_float 14:49 PilzAdam but there is a nil like value: "" or 0 14:49 RealBadAngel RealBadAngel: sry its "if minetest.env:get_meta(pos):get_string("name") ~= nil then" 14:49 NekoGloop You should add mesecons compatibility if its not already there. 14:49 RealBadAngel me? 14:50 NekoGloop Yes you 14:50 PilzAdam RealBadAngel: sorry 14:50 RealBadAngel for christ sake 14:50 PilzAdam i dont checked it 14:50 RealBadAngel mesecons are not power line 14:50 RealBadAngel my power lines are not mesecons 14:50 RealBadAngel period 14:51 PilzAdam thexyz: where can i get this signs? 14:51 NekoGloop Make it so you can power mesecons from your powerlines. Make a dedicated block or something. 14:51 thexyz PilzAdam: that mod is still unfinished 14:51 thexyz so i guess, nowhere 14:51 PilzAdam i want it 14:51 thexyz until i finish it 14:51 RealBadAngel neko: mesecons provides just logic signals 14:51 RealBadAngel 0 or 1 14:51 RealBadAngel not power 14:51 thexyz PilzAdam: why do you need it? 14:51 PilzAdam i want to see the code 14:52 RealBadAngel and from now on i refuse to answer idiotic questions :P 14:52 NekoGloop Alright, then i'll fight with the code to make a converter block. 14:52 RealBadAngel go on 14:52 thexyz PilzAdam: main idea is taken from "paintings" mod 14:52 RealBadAngel you will have a hard time then 14:52 PilzAdam link? 14:53 RealBadAngel since my machines will just refuse mesecons too 14:53 thexyz https://github.com/obneq/painting 14:53 NekoGloop Nonono, you misunderstand 14:53 RealBadAngel simply, i dont like idea running complex machine with a torch 14:53 NekoGloop I mean make a power to mesecons converter. 14:54 NekoGloop Not the other way around 14:54 RealBadAngel jeija is either drunk or too young 14:54 NekoGloop Jeija is possibly both :3 14:54 RealBadAngel no way to allow machines to work with endless +5v signal 14:55 RealBadAngel im planning nuclear reactors 14:55 RealBadAngel to get more power 14:55 RealBadAngel and you tell me to stick to 0/1? 14:55 RealBadAngel forget it 14:55 NekoGloop Hmmm... I might make my evil blocks give off low power... 14:56 NekoGloop Like whatever the equivalent of 1v is. 14:56 RealBadAngel jeija's power plants (how ironic) and other energy collectors 14:56 RealBadAngel are just sensors 14:56 RealBadAngel they can detect if theres water,light 14:57 RealBadAngel and provide logic signal for it 14:57 NekoGloop I know :P 14:57 NekoGloop I'm not an imbecile. 14:57 NekoGloop Although i'm fairly sure i spelled that wrong :P 14:57 RealBadAngel so stop you all comparing my power network to mesecons 14:57 RealBadAngel its not even close to it 14:58 RealBadAngel no logic at all 14:58 RealBadAngel just Ohms laws 14:58 NekoGloop Make a video of your mod in action, i'll watch it. 14:58 RealBadAngel there is one already 14:58 NekoGloop Then point me to it 14:59 RealBadAngel modding general/good bye coal 14:59 NekoGloop Found it on youtube 15:00 RealBadAngel now workin on wires, when done it will be released 15:00 NekoGloop Good but shouldnt your cables be raillike drawing? 15:01 RealBadAngel wires as blocks look kinda stupid ;) 15:01 NekoGloop Dammit ninjas 15:01 Jeija You can just copy my mesecons wires as mesecons is under the wtfpl 15:01 NekoGloop Ohai jeija 15:01 RealBadAngel i almost made my own wires placin rules 15:01 RealBadAngel different than yours 15:01 Jeija Jeija is possibly both :3 Ohai I heard 15:01 RealBadAngel hi Jeija 15:02 RealBadAngel wanted to talk to you 15:02 NekoGloop Anyway. The furnace is probably the most useful thing. 15:02 RealBadAngel its one of about 10 furnaces to come 15:02 NekoGloop Oh i know, make it compatible with oil mod 15:02 RealBadAngel and many other machines 15:03 NekoGloop Auto-miner, anyone? :3 15:03 RealBadAngel alloy furnaces, recycling ones, macerators 15:03 RealBadAngel tool repairers 15:03 NekoGloop Idk but one furnace seems like enough 15:03 NekoGloop How to craft these things? 15:04 RealBadAngel you will c 15:04 NekoGloop Crafting recipes? 15:04 NekoGloop Or are they not craftable atm? 15:04 RealBadAngel i will post them in mod's topic 15:04 RealBadAngel once update is online 15:05 NekoGloop How long will that take? 15:05 NekoGloop And you never said anything about oil mod compatibility. 15:05 RealBadAngel since tubes and pipes are not done yet? 15:05 RealBadAngel tubes will provide Vanessa 15:06 RealBadAngel tfu, pipes 15:06 RealBadAngel i will make tubes 15:06 RealBadAngel tubes will be used to transport items 15:06 NekoGloop Oil mod has pipes, make them wire to a certain node that makes electricity 15:07 NekoGloop I'm downloading it as soon as you get your wires to be railike drawing :3 15:07 RealBadAngel it wont be raillike 15:07 RealBadAngel cablelike 15:07 RealBadAngel i have defined my own way of connectin them 15:07 NekoGloop Fine whatever, make them not blocky 15:08 RealBadAngel thats what im doin right now 15:08 RealBadAngel and connections will update realtime 15:09 RealBadAngel once placed or removed 15:09 NekoGloop Lol realtime == lag 15:09 RealBadAngel once per place/dig? 15:09 RealBadAngel :P 15:09 NekoGloop Im assuming this has a moreores dependency? 15:09 RealBadAngel what a really laggy solution :P 15:09 RealBadAngel yes 15:10 RealBadAngel since i do need many materials for machines 15:10 NekoGloop Is gold/mithril going to have their own cables? 15:10 RealBadAngel cables, soils, alloys etc 15:10 NekoGloop At least more than copper needs to have cables 15:10 RealBadAngel gold is one of the best conductors 15:11 NekoGloop But since mithril isnt a real ore you can take some creative liberties. ;) 15:11 RealBadAngel LV cable means: a) its low voltage, there will be MV- medium voltage and HV - high voltage 15:11 Jeija I once coded a cablelike (meseconlike) drawtype, just in case you're interested: http://pastebin.com/8PqDxEwj 15:12 RealBadAngel copper wont stand higher voltages 15:12 NekoGloop Is the difference in how fast, how far, or how much power can be sent? 15:12 RealBadAngel then we will need another cables 15:12 RealBadAngel im doin it once a sec 15:12 RealBadAngel no need to make it on global step 15:12 RealBadAngel to load servers 15:12 NekoGloop Actually, all those cable blocks need is a different texture, not a drawtype. 15:13 RealBadAngel so its simplified 15:13 NekoGloop That texture's just ugly ;3 15:13 RealBadAngel it was made in like 30s 15:13 RealBadAngel just to see the block :P 15:13 NekoGloop Lol i took more time making the graphics for my game. 15:14 Jeija NekoGloop, that would look strange, like that you can't really make the cables go up at the sides of blocks (if you don't use some strange nodebox hack) 15:14 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/wires.lua 15:14 RealBadAngel here comes the wires :P 15:14 NekoGloop Explain jeija 15:14 RealBadAngel install it you will c them 15:15 Jeija wait brb.. 5min 15:15 NekoGloop But im on my ipad, i cant download anything... 15:15 RealBadAngel wires will be mode centered 15:16 RealBadAngel and auto connecting to cables or power producers and receivers 15:16 NekoGloop So, a question. Are solar panels the only thing that give off power atm? 15:16 RealBadAngel no 15:16 NekoGloop Good 15:16 NekoGloop What else does? 15:16 RealBadAngel geothermal ones for underground 15:16 RealBadAngel where theres no light 15:17 RealBadAngel you have to surround it with lava and water 15:17 RealBadAngel to produce energy 15:17 NekoGloop Cant you fool solar panels with torches? 15:17 RealBadAngel no 15:17 NekoGloop Ok then 15:17 RealBadAngel they work both on daytime and light level 15:18 RealBadAngel another way is generator 15:18 NekoGloop So, you can fool them with torches, but only at day? 15:18 RealBadAngel for use at very begginings 15:18 RealBadAngel put coal in it to produce power 15:19 NekoGloop Any fuel object? 15:19 RealBadAngel just coal 15:19 NekoGloop Not just coal :P 15:19 RealBadAngel like in real power plants 15:19 Jeija back, so NekoGloop, what to explain? 15:19 NekoGloop Real power plants also can use wood :P 15:20 RealBadAngel seen power plant runnin on wood? 15:20 NekoGloop Jeija, i didnt understand what you said 15:20 RealBadAngel i havent :P 15:20 NekoGloop I havent seen one personally. 15:20 Jeija In minecraft redstone goes up blocks vertically 15:21 RealBadAngel no 15:21 NekoGloop I wouldnt know jeija, i havent played mc. 15:21 RealBadAngel it doesnt 15:21 Jeija you can't do that with different textures only, you need a hack 15:21 RealBadAngel only way to go up are torches 15:21 Jeija oh yes it does, I don't play minecraft, but I saw it 15:21 Jeija I don't mean the signal, the wire 15:21 NekoGloop Well let's improve upon mc anyways. 15:21 RealBadAngel only torches 15:22 RealBadAngel only way to go up with wire is Red Power 2 15:22 NekoGloop Make a dedicated block, which goes in corners, and also make vertical wires. 15:22 RealBadAngel with vanilla redstone is block/torch/block/torch 15:23 RealBadAngel serie of inverters 15:23 Jeija Just a random example http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HFgC7mVUeWA/0.jpg 15:23 Jeija See the right of the picture 15:23 Jeija it goes up the block at its side 15:23 Jeija that's what's hard to do with different textures only 15:23 RealBadAngel you said up 15:23 NekoGloop Well i cant code .lua worth shit. 15:23 RealBadAngel no way 2 block high 15:23 RealBadAngel on the steps, yeah 15:24 NekoGloop Wel you could make a spiral staircase then :P 15:24 RealBadAngel since redstone is powerin block (node) 15:24 RealBadAngel and then u end up with enourmous buildings for simple circuits 15:24 Jeija Ok, how are you planning to do that? Or will your wires just stay at the ground? 15:25 RealBadAngel jeija: look at redpower 2 15:25 RealBadAngel as i said: redstone is light years behind it 15:25 NekoGloop EVERYONE SHUT UP AND AGREE THAT RAILLIKE IS GOOD ENOUGH 15:25 NekoGloop now me afk 15:25 Jeija yes nekogloop! 15:25 RealBadAngel lol 15:25 RealBadAngel yes sir, now go 15:25 RealBadAngel :P 15:26 mrtux stupid irc 15:26 RealBadAngel jeija: take ideas from redpower 15:27 RealBadAngel Eloraam made excellent work with it 15:27 RealBadAngel imho redpower 2 is the best mod for minecraft 15:27 RealBadAngel it ovepowers everything 15:28 Jeija as I don't have minecraft it's hard to figure out for me what it does... I'll propably watch some videos some time later 15:28 RealBadAngel i will show you somethin 15:28 RealBadAngel wait a sec 15:29 mrtux I might make an addition to Mesecons 15:29 Jeija what, mrtux? 15:29 mrtux streetlamps 15:29 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAssrmRndXc 15:30 NekoGloop I was going to make a mesecons addon aswell 15:30 mrtux that light up when they get mesecon power 15:30 mrtux and maybe vertical mesecons 15:30 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXdVNRtZeHE&feature=list_other&playnext=1&list=SPC56BE48A0D77EC73 15:30 RealBadAngel this one you definitely should look very carefully 15:30 Jeija vertical mesecons would be nice :D 15:30 Jeija k RealBadAngel 15:30 mrtux I'll get to it when I finish my email to richard stallman 15:31 mrtux he replied to it :) 15:31 RealBadAngel jeija: redpower even adds programmable 6502 computer 15:31 RealBadAngel u can code it in assembler 15:31 Jeija lawl ^^...what? 15:31 Jeija mrtux, 15:31 RealBadAngel write OS for it 15:31 mrtux yes jeija 15:31 RealBadAngel or use provided FORTH compiler 15:32 Jeija Well, a simple microcontroller does not sound too bad... 15:32 RealBadAngel so, its possible to write for example tetris playable inside a game 15:32 RealBadAngel i saw it 15:32 RealBadAngel its a fully functional 6502 system 15:33 RealBadAngel with assembler, IO , disk etc 15:34 RealBadAngel you could propably even port C64 games to it lol 15:35 RealBadAngel since its so like Commodore C-64 15:50 NekoGloop Wow, dead chat 15:50 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Have you finished your drawtype thing? 15:52 RealBadAngel got it workin on x and y axis 15:53 RealBadAngel now z, and optimize it 15:53 RealBadAngel since the code is mess lol 15:53 NekoGloop Lol good 15:54 RealBadAngel i will finish it today 15:54 RealBadAngel will make low-res textures 15:54 RealBadAngel and i think tommorow will upload update 15:54 NekoGloop D: upload it today! 15:55 RealBadAngel sry, have to finish and test it a bit 1st 15:55 RealBadAngel will upload a video on wires today tho 15:56 NekoGloop D: 15:56 RealBadAngel since its a neat piece of code 15:56 RealBadAngel and Vanessa is in need for it too, for her pipes 15:57 NekoGloop Well the sooner you get it uploaded the sooner everyone is happy. 16:08 NekoGloop I'm back :P 16:08 NekoGloop On my computer now. 16:09 NekoGloop RealBadAngel, that link again, please :3 16:12 NekoGloop lol why the hell was I looking at Mod Releases 16:12 RealBadAngel makin a video right now 16:12 RealBadAngel wait a few minute 16:12 RealBadAngel s 16:13 NekoGloop Ohai Calinou :3 16:14 NekoGloop btw, someone greifed your house on the Zenoheld the Backstab server, Calinou. 16:14 NekoGloop I think it was UbuntuNerd, whoever that was. 16:14 NekoGloop I killed him like 10 times lol 16:15 RealBadAngel uploading it now 16:15 NekoGloop uploading vid? 16:15 RealBadAngel yes 16:15 NekoGloop :3 16:15 RealBadAngel with wires placin in the x-axis 16:16 NekoGloop Just upload it 16:16 RealBadAngel you will c then auto-connecting work 16:16 RealBadAngel 6 minutes circa 16:17 RealBadAngel i do have bad upload speed 16:17 RealBadAngel async 16:17 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 16:18 Calinou btw, someone greifed your house on the Zenoheld the Backstab server, Calinou. 16:18 Calinou grief, not greif ;) 16:18 Calinou I repaired a bit yes 16:18 Calinou also, ubuntunerd == madchicken13 16:18 NekoGloop same goddamn thing 16:18 Calinou that kid from the forums 16:18 NekoGloop ok, so yell at him 16:18 RealBadAngel that kid? 16:19 RealBadAngel moron 16:19 RealBadAngel talked to me, saw my mod 16:19 RealBadAngel and then made "bigchests" mod 16:19 NekoGloop lol what's the problem? 16:19 RealBadAngel he just copied idea 16:20 NekoGloop combine the two, get big mithril chests that hold a sh*tload of stuff 16:20 RealBadAngel after talkin to me 16:20 RealBadAngel no 16:20 NekoGloop yes :3 16:20 RealBadAngel he just made one biiiig one 16:20 RealBadAngel my chests are tiered 16:20 RealBadAngel and each kind has a purpose 16:20 NekoGloop Oh, while we're talking about that mod 16:21 NekoGloop You cant make an iron locked chest from 8 iron and a locked chest ;) 16:21 RealBadAngel yup 16:21 RealBadAngel forgot to add one recipe 16:21 RealBadAngel already fixed 16:21 NekoGloop oh lol this server must use an old version 16:21 RealBadAngel with next update of course 16:22 RealBadAngel no, it was bug? alzheimer? whatever, my fault 16:22 RealBadAngel just forgot to add that recipe 16:23 NekoGloop yes, yes, do so and i'll alert the person to update the serverside mod 16:23 RealBadAngel u can go around 16:23 RealBadAngel make unlocked 16:23 RealBadAngel upgrade it 16:23 RealBadAngel then go for a lock 16:23 NekoGloop you can unlock a chest? 16:24 RealBadAngel i mean regular chest 16:24 NekoGloop whatever. 16:24 RealBadAngel mess will come later 16:24 RealBadAngel with networks ;) 16:24 NekoGloop New Topic: UPLOAD THE FREAKIN MOD 16:24 NekoGloop :3 16:24 Calinou oh lol this server must use an old version 16:25 Calinou server has ancient versions of everything 16:25 Calinou his moreblocks is from april IIRC 16:25 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcSbsGqrK4c 16:25 RealBadAngel video is here 16:25 RealBadAngel this is how the wires will work 16:25 RealBadAngel and look like 16:26 NekoGloop does it work with y and z axes yet? 16:27 RealBadAngel whole x, half y 16:27 RealBadAngel lotsa coding 16:27 RealBadAngel and removal is to be done too 16:27 NekoGloop z is not functional yet? 16:28 RealBadAngel now its just copy paste parts of code 16:28 RealBadAngel and change x,y,z 16:28 RealBadAngel being carefull which ones 16:28 NekoGloop lol have fun 16:28 jin_xi looks cool 16:29 jin_xi thexyz: nice signs! 16:29 RealBadAngel signs r nice 16:29 RealBadAngel but my infoedit is also cool 16:29 RealBadAngel on chests 16:30 NekoGloop well that's only silver or higher, right? 16:30 RealBadAngel you take a look on chest to see infotext for it. edited 16:30 thexyz jin_xi: what GPL version is used in your mod? 16:30 RealBadAngel silver and gold ones 16:30 Calinou inb4 GPLv4 16:30 RealBadAngel mithrhril ones will form networks of chests 16:30 RealBadAngel in certain range 16:31 NekoGloop GPLv1 :3 *doesnt really know* 16:31 RealBadAngel with center of subspace beacon placed 16:32 RealBadAngel all chests of the same network inside range of beacon will behave like multi paged big chest 16:32 jin_xi GPLv3 i'd say 16:33 RealBadAngel so u place fire beacon, with range of 50 16:33 RealBadAngel upgrade mithril chest with subspace module 16:33 RealBadAngel and all of them will be connected to each other 16:34 NekoGloop lol i think i'd make a room with all of these chests, beacon in center, sh*tload of space xD 16:34 RealBadAngel yes 16:34 RealBadAngel but theres a price 16:34 NekoGloop how so 16:34 RealBadAngel networked chest wont work with transport pipes 16:35 RealBadAngel so no autocrafting, sorting etc 16:35 RealBadAngel just pure huge storage 16:35 NekoGloop well that would work with my idea orz 16:36 RealBadAngel for automated system there r gold chests 16:36 RealBadAngel which can be marked with colours 16:36 RealBadAngel then sorting machines can for example send cobble to red marked chests 16:36 RealBadAngel sand to yellow 16:36 RealBadAngel etc 16:40 NekoGloop Is it updated yet? D: 16:43 RealBadAngel lol 16:44 RealBadAngel now im goin to update my dish with fresh new pizza 16:44 RealBadAngel then will think bout somethin more ;) 16:44 NekoGloop D: 16:44 ecube peperoni 16:44 RealBadAngel hawaii 16:44 NekoGloop meat lovahs :3 16:49 NekoGloop Look, a minetestuser. 16:49 * MineTestUser runs 16:49 * NekoGloop chases :3 16:49 RealBadAngel where? 16:49 * MineTestUser runs faster 16:49 * NekoGloop chases faster >:3 16:49 RealBadAngel to the arms :p 16:49 * MineTestUser runs fatter 16:50 * NekoGloop chases even FASTER >:3 16:50 * MineTestUser yells I GIVE 16:50 * NekoGloop takes :3 16:50 * MineTestUser had nothing 16:50 * NekoGloop took it anyway 16:50 MineTestUser >:3 16:50 * RealBadAngel teleports tp MTU and chops head off 16:51 MineTestUser :( 16:51 * NekoGloop takes the head :3 16:51 NekoGloop Look what I found! :3 16:51 RealBadAngel wanna play soccer? 16:51 RealBadAngel hehehehe 16:51 MineTestUser NUUUUUUUUUUUUU 16:51 * NekoGloop kicks it toward rba 16:52 * RealBadAngel kicks it back 16:52 * MineTestUser 's head falls off a cliff 16:52 RealBadAngel ouch! out! 16:52 MineTestUser lol 16:52 MineTestUser So how are you all today? 16:52 RealBadAngel well, fine 16:53 NekoGloop Good. Waiting for rba to get off his lazy ass and upload his mod 16:53 RealBadAngel my wires starts slowly to work 16:53 RealBadAngel @neko: :P 16:53 MineTestUser You see, I would use my preferred nickname, but IRC doesn't like it 16:53 RealBadAngel i could upload just blocks instead of wire 16:53 RealBadAngel s 16:53 NekoGloop What? Vulgar names are not allowed by NickServ 16:53 NekoGloop And I wantz wires :3 16:54 MineTestUser Uhh 16:54 RealBadAngel but i dont want to 16:54 MineTestUser It's 2cool4me4 16:54 NekoGloop try it :P 16:54 NekoGloop Maybe its already registered by someone else? :P 16:54 MineTestUser I did, freenode returns with "invalid nick" 16:54 RealBadAngel will make that wires, then will upload whole stuff 16:55 RealBadAngel then will add new machine each day 16:55 RealBadAngel its a promise 16:55 NekoGloop Well get to working your ass of on the wires. Nao. 16:55 RealBadAngel btw 16:55 RealBadAngel need a name, for certain machine 16:55 NekoGloop What does it do? 16:56 RealBadAngel it gonna repair your tools 16:56 cool4me4 Well, the name almost worked 16:56 NekoGloop toolshop then 16:56 cool4me4 Couldn't put the 2 first... 16:56 RealBadAngel with power 16:56 NekoGloop RBA, usa toolshop 16:56 RealBadAngel shop? nah 16:56 RealBadAngel think more 16:57 RealBadAngel it will take time 16:57 NekoGloop refinery 16:57 RealBadAngel its for oil 16:57 NekoGloop DUDE. USE /nick to change your name -_- 16:57 TWOcool4me4 Sorry 16:57 NekoGloop RBA, use toolrefinery 16:57 TWOcool4me4 I cleared your screen 16:57 RealBadAngel sounds like shit 16:57 RealBadAngel next please 16:58 NekoGloop toolrefiner 16:58 TWOcool4me4 o.O 16:58 RealBadAngel better 16:58 _2cool4me4_ That's better 16:58 RealBadAngel any other? 16:58 NekoGloop nope, that's actually my last one 16:58 RealBadAngel try harder 16:58 _2cool4me4_ What are we looking for a name for? 16:59 RealBadAngel machine which will repair tools 16:59 RealBadAngel in cost of energy 16:59 _2cool4me4_ ToolShop 16:59 RealBadAngel shit 16:59 NekoGloop i tried that 16:59 RealBadAngel again 16:59 NekoGloop ToolForge 16:59 NekoGloop Forge 16:59 NekoGloop etc. 16:59 _2cool4me4_ WorkBench 17:00 NekoGloop There's already a whole WorkBench mod :P 17:00 _2cool4me4_ oh 17:00 NekoGloop its on zenoheld the backstab already :P 17:01 _2cool4me4_ ReForge 17:01 NekoGloop ToolForge, RealBadAngel 17:02 _2cool4me4_ afk -.- 17:02 NekoGloop lol so? 17:02 NekoGloop he's coding 17:02 NekoGloop no0t afk 17:03 NekoGloop unless he's eating 17:03 _2cool4me4_ afIRC 17:03 _2cool4me4_ there 17:03 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kppBxSggsIA&feature=related 17:03 NekoGloop Why is this so epic :3 17:03 _2cool4me4_ I can't click links in IceChat 17:03 NekoGloop Well then copy it and get off of icechat cuz its shit 17:04 NekoGloop i mean, even the goddamn webchat's better 17:04 _2cool4me4_ Copying copies most of the transcript :/ 17:04 NekoGloop http://webchat.freenode.net/ 17:04 mrtux use xchat 17:04 _2cool4me4_ I got the link to work... 17:04 NekoGloop use the webchat :3 17:04 mrtux if you're on windows, don't 17:04 NekoGloop its free 17:05 _2cool4me4_ what's with the suicide girl? 17:05 NekoGloop suicide girl? 17:05 NekoGloop you mean miku holding a gun to her head? 17:05 NekoGloop idk either 17:05 _2cool4me4_ Holding a gun to the head? 17:05 NekoGloop Original song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JGaQ3g8WU4&feature=related 17:05 _2cool4me4_ It's kinda creepy... 17:05 NekoGloop It's playing backwards :3 17:06 _2cool4me4_ Just the pic... 17:06 NekoGloop The one you're listening to is playing backwards :3 17:06 * Calinou is compressing his texture packs using optipng 17:06 Calinou :D 17:06 _2cool4me4_ The song is pretty cool 17:06 Calinou mrtux, xchat FTW 17:06 Calinou mrtux> if you're on windows, don't 17:06 Calinou heard of hexchat? 17:06 mrtux hexchat? 17:06 Calinou free, legal clone of xchat for windows :p 17:06 Calinou the original dev is an idiot 17:06 mrtux I'm using an older xchat version from silverex.org 17:06 _2cool4me4_ afk 17:07 Calinou meme: releases under GPL 17:07 Calinou makes windows version paid 17:07 NekoGloop P.S., _2cool4me4_, it's japanese :3 17:07 * Calinou plays "rickroll'd" using a tuba 17:07 mrtux I need to install linux... NOW 17:07 * NekoGloop listens to "Matryoshka" a few more times 17:07 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JGaQ3g8WU4&feature=related 17:07 mrtux *gnu/linux 17:09 mrtux hi 17:09 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 17:09 mrtux lunch 17:10 NekoGloop Ugh, I've already ate but I'm still hungry 17:11 MiJyn hi 17:11 * mrtux is away: Going to eat lunch, then go do somethink, might be afk for a few hours 17:15 RealBadAngel bout songs 17:15 RealBadAngel have you guys seen that? : 17:15 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJUBQd-PNM 17:15 NekoGloop seen what? 17:16 * NekoGloop expects it to be a screamer or something :3 17:16 _2cool4me4_ back 17:16 RealBadAngel check this video, its cool 17:17 NekoGloop ya right 17:18 RealBadAngel btw, there will be 'easter egg' in my next update 17:18 RealBadAngel but shhhh 17:18 RealBadAngel ;) 17:18 Calinou inb4 eatable mithril 17:19 Calinou (that was moreores' easter egg between april 2012 and june 2012. mithril restored 1 heart on left click) 17:19 _2cool4me4_ edible mithril? 17:19 Calinou :) 17:19 Calinou noone knew about it 17:19 Calinou (well, publicly stated it on the forums) 17:19 _2cool4me4_ until now! 17:19 RealBadAngel noooooooo 17:19 RealBadAngel diamonds :) 17:19 * _2cool4me4_ has an evil thought 17:19 NekoGloop you killed it 17:19 * _2cool4me4_ is sad 17:20 * NekoGloop killes _2cool4me4_ since his head is already off a cliff :3 17:20 RealBadAngel need sharp and though stuff to cut copper and steel 17:20 RealBadAngel to form coils 17:20 Calinou compressed my texture packs... 17:20 * _2cool4me4_ is very sad now 17:21 Calinou size reduction: between 20% and 40% :D 17:21 Calinou compression is lossless 17:21 RealBadAngel which format? 17:21 * NekoGloop is getting lonely... 17:21 RealBadAngel there r not many loseless formats 17:22 RealBadAngel neko: write a petition: who will hug me :P 17:22 * NekoGloop shoves a knife through RBA's chest 17:23 Calinou 7.66mb > 6.50mb (misa's pack for 0.4) 17:23 Calinou RealBadAngel, png of course... 17:23 * RealBadAngel armored, 0,01% lost 17:23 NekoGloop How would I go about making more ores generate? 17:23 RealBadAngel easy as piece of cake 17:23 * NekoGloop stabs RBA 100 more times to remove armor and kill him 17:24 _2cool4me4_ the animals mod doesn't load on 0.4.1? 17:24 RealBadAngel added 2 ores today 17:24 RealBadAngel diamond for super sharp cutting tools 17:24 RealBadAngel and nikolite for alloys 17:24 NekoGloop but what function? 17:24 RealBadAngel look at moreores code 17:25 NekoGloop oh that's helpful :P 17:25 RealBadAngel damn, use on_generate 17:25 RealBadAngel was that even more helpful? 17:25 NekoGloop lolno 17:26 RealBadAngel if youre not a coder, stick to playin 17:26 RealBadAngel baker can bake bread 17:26 RealBadAngel can you? 17:26 PilzAdam " if youre not a coder, stick to playin" -21154545 17:27 NekoGloop ikr 17:27 RealBadAngel english is not my language 17:27 Calinou "if youre not a coder, stick to copypasting" 17:27 Calinou FTFY 17:28 RealBadAngel so i can make filthy mistakes 17:28 Calinou so you can make fifty mistakes. 17:28 Calinou how I feel about "filthy" 17:28 RealBadAngel wanna bet? 17:28 Calinou dat word 17:29 RealBadAngel naaah 17:29 RealBadAngel propably again messed up letters 17:29 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zt2fXJVuUU&feature=related 17:30 RealBadAngel but you got point for sure 17:30 Calinou some textures in MCE pack are decreased by 60% when compressing. O_o 17:31 RealBadAngel got something better 17:31 RealBadAngel watch this 17:31 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDVtYzVPg9g 17:31 NekoGloop what is it 17:31 NekoGloop oh that 17:31 NekoGloop already seen it :P 17:32 RealBadAngel nice one 17:32 Calinou MCE pack for 0.4 before: 15.5MB, after: 12.8MB 17:32 Calinou :D 17:32 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=cMJYowu3s6A&NR=1 >:3 17:32 NekoGloop cant wait for mesecons noteblocks to work 17:33 leo_rockway greetings 17:33 RealBadAngel dunno why i dont like anything made with diagonal yellow eyes 17:34 RealBadAngel those folks r just different 17:34 RealBadAngel different culture i guess 17:34 NekoGloop who? 17:34 RealBadAngel yaps 17:34 NekoGloop what? 17:35 RealBadAngel asians 17:35 RealBadAngel yapanese in the 1st place 17:35 NekoGloop ... what the hell are you saying? 17:36 RealBadAngel theyre like aliens to me 17:36 RealBadAngel no way to understand them 17:36 NekoGloop lol 17:36 NekoGloop still have no idea why you're ranting randomly 17:37 RealBadAngel im resting :P 17:37 RealBadAngel im after whole day of work 17:37 NekoGloop well get to coding and upload the damn mod 17:37 RealBadAngel lol 17:37 RealBadAngel never been under such pressure lol 17:38 NekoGloop get used to it :D 17:38 RealBadAngel tell that to the bottle 17:38 RealBadAngel of beer 17:39 NekoGloop wtf 17:39 NekoGloop i have no idea what you are saying :P 17:39 NekoGloop :D 17:39 RealBadAngel not wtf but ttf 17:39 RealBadAngel that the .uck 17:40 RealBadAngel im drinkin beer rite now ;) 17:40 NekoGloop well isnt that the best time to code something? :D 17:40 RealBadAngel hmmm, depends 17:40 NekoGloop :3 17:41 RealBadAngel if you like to get more bugs or more stable code ;) 17:41 NekoGloop more stable 17:41 NekoGloop so drink up :3 17:42 RealBadAngel hahahha 17:43 RealBadAngel will go for just 2 more beers 17:43 RealBadAngel and then 6-7 hrs of coding time 17:44 RealBadAngel that is planne 17:44 RealBadAngel d 17:45 NekoGloop 2 beers == 2 seconds? :3 17:48 RealBadAngel no,it assumes: wear, get ur bike, ride the shop, plunder it an go back again 17:49 RealBadAngel 2s is not enough simply 17:51 RealBadAngel im not FTL 17:51 NekoGloop what? 17:52 RealBadAngel Fater Then Light 17:52 RealBadAngel Faster 17:52 RealBadAngel brb 17:53 GTRsdk lol 17:54 RealBadAngel dont lol at drunk one :P 17:54 NekoGloop lol 17:55 RealBadAngel may the power of dark shovel fall upon you 17:56 RealBadAngel hit in da head and sleep :p 17:56 RealBadAngel meanwhile going to get that beer 17:57 NekoGloop Anyone tried my gloopblocks mod yet? (of who's here) 18:20 NekoGloop ohai pilzadam. again 18:20 PilzAdam Ive changed from webchat to XCHat 18:21 NekoGloop cool... i think... 18:21 NekoGloop I'm gonna make an ore that only generates above sea level! :D 18:21 PilzAdam name? 18:22 NekoGloop uhm... dont have one yet 18:22 NekoGloop :P 18:23 NekoGloop any ideas? 18:23 NekoGloop could even jsut be random letters as far as I care 18:23 PilzAdam lost gold 18:23 NekoGloop lolno 18:23 NekoGloop one word please 18:24 PilzAdam coalstone 18:24 NekoGloop sounds too... coal-y :P 18:24 PilzAdam stoneore 18:25 PilzAdam bone_of_dinosaur 18:25 NekoGloop lets see... may there be a suggestion that does not contain the name of a block in the game already? 18:25 NekoGloop ooooh, fossil :3 18:26 NekoGloop doesnt make sense being only above sea level thoguh 18:26 jin_xi drystone? 18:26 PilzAdam maybe the fossils arent that old 18:26 PilzAdam so they arent deep in the ground 18:27 NekoGloop Maybe make them generate only above -100 18:27 NekoGloop but I want something to only generate above sea level 18:28 PilzAdam sun_burned_stone 18:28 jin_xi this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepiolite 18:28 NekoGloop Some kind of ore. 18:30 NekoGloop dare i say it, nickel? 18:31 NekoGloop oh screw it, not making it generate only above sea level 18:31 PilzAdam i think we dont need more ores 18:32 NekoGloop I do :3 18:32 PilzAdam even moreores is too much for me 18:33 PilzAdam I like the way it is in the default game 18:33 NekoGloop too bad for you 18:33 PilzAdam nope 18:34 PilzAdam btw XChat is nice 18:34 servvs so how do I connect to servers? 18:35 NekoGloop use your ~magic~ 18:35 servvs lol 18:35 NekoGloop what are you having a problem with, exactly? 18:36 servvs nevermind, I see that i need to register with the specific server first 18:36 NekoGloop lol 18:36 servvs any good servers that I should join? 18:37 NekoGloop uh... 18:37 PilzAdam everyone has build privs on minetest.freedns.in port 30000 18:37 NekoGloop You arent actually allowed to advertise that server 18:37 NekoGloop hush hush 18:38 PilzAdam ? 18:38 NekoGloop The owner has enough problems with it lagging 18:38 PilzAdam its the only server with protokoll version 12 and everyone build privs 18:40 NekoGloop but Muad doesnt want it advertised 18:41 PilzAdam okay 18:41 PilzAdam but its still on servers.minetest.ru so everyone can read it... 18:41 NekoGloop I know. 18:41 NekoGloop But noone every reads that -_- 18:41 NekoGloop ever* 18:42 PilzAdam i have to go 18:42 PilzAdam bye 18:42 NekoGloop bye 18:44 RealBadAngel i think i am, since i play there 18:44 RealBadAngel join minetest.freedns.in port 30000 18:44 RealBadAngel money is for nothing and the chips for free 18:45 NekoGloop ohai rba, you got more beer I take it? 18:45 RealBadAngel wanna one? 18:45 RealBadAngel on me 18:45 RealBadAngel here u go 18:46 NekoGloop Well there is a beer mod *cough-cough* 18:46 * VanessaE wanders in for a minute 18:46 RealBadAngel hey ho, vanessa 18:46 * NekoGloop pokes vanessae 18:46 RealBadAngel moved a bit further 18:47 NekoGloop wat 18:48 RealBadAngel she know what ;) 18:48 RealBadAngel s 18:48 RealBadAngel my kb is hungry, eating letters dammit 18:49 VanessaE coolies 18:49 Volt|apostrophe Could be worse... 18:49 Volt|apostrophe ...could be eating fish fingers. 18:49 NekoGloop Well RBA is drunk, for those of you having trouble figuring out 18:49 VanessaE heh 18:50 VanessaE I've known a lot of people over the years whose creativity only increases when they're drunk or stoned :-) 18:50 * NekoGloop hits vanessae over the head with an evil shovel 18:50 VanessaE ow. 18:50 NekoGloop That's why I told him to work on his mod. 18:50 NekoGloop :3 19:02 VanessaE bbl, gotta run' 19:06 RealBadAngel well, im not such drunk 19:06 RealBadAngel tired, yes 19:07 RealBadAngel sittin there and talkin to the force. will it move even a single finger? 19:12 jin_xi uuuuse the fffoooorce 19:12 RealBadAngel luuuukeee 19:14 RealBadAngel btw, any1 saw StarCrash? 19:14 RealBadAngel with David Haselhoff 19:15 RealBadAngel when he was oung 19:15 jin_xi no 19:15 RealBadAngel macaroni parody of starwars 19:15 RealBadAngel from 80's 19:15 RealBadAngel worth to see 19:16 RealBadAngel and to train your laugh muscles 19:16 RealBadAngel review of it was called like: 19:17 RealBadAngel "..ck you spielerg! we can also make starwars:P" 19:17 RealBadAngel movie is great with its stupidity 19:19 RealBadAngel but most funny think they wasnt ooin a parody 19:19 RealBadAngel they wanted to beat starwars with it 19:19 RealBadAngel and that makes result even more funny 19:20 jin_xi will look later 19:20 jin_xi watching dexter atm 19:20 RealBadAngel download it 19:20 RealBadAngel really worth seeing 19:21 RealBadAngel not for story line, or effects 19:21 RealBadAngel you will got it once saw it 19:22 RealBadAngel kinda like monthy pythons sense of humour 19:22 RealBadAngel but they were serious when makin it lol 19:27 Voltaire In debug what is drawtime? 20:12 * mrtux is back (gone 03:01:16) 20:29 thexyz anybody care to test my signs mod? http://i.imgur.com/DWYXo.png 20:32 thexyz https://github.com/downloads/xyzz/minetest-mods/signs.zip 20:32 thexyz you also need to /giveme signs:sign 20:33 mrtux nice xyz 20:37 mrtux hey 20:39 Jeija hi mrtux 20:46 jin_xi it seems i can't dig the signs 20:46 jin_xi ? 20:46 thexyz yes, it's still more WIP than release 20:46 thexyz but most of work is already done 20:47 jin_xi also random texture artefacts 20:47 thexyz yes, and i don't know how to solve them 20:47 thexyz any ideas? 20:48 thexyz also, is there a way to set pitch for lua entity? 20:48 jin_xi no, not that i know of 20:49 thexyz that's bad =( 20:49 thexyz because i already made hack to support wallmounted-like positions 20:49 thexyz and now there is no need in it 20:50 jin_xi i had similar artefacts in painting when size of texture was off 20:51 thexyz what do you mean by "off"? not defined? 20:53 jin_xi image string not right in some way but don't remember precisely 20:53 thexyz hm.. 20:54 jin_xi i had to use more :'s and file extensions in that imagestring than tile.cpp's comments made me believe 20:56 thexyz ok, time to sleep 20:56 NekoGloop D: 20:56 NekoGloop BUT I JUST GOT HERE D: 20:56 NekoGloop I DUN WANNA SLEEP NOW!!! 20:56 thexyz NO. YOU. MUST. 20:57 * NekoGloop zzzzz... 20:58 jin_xi hmm, on relogin sign looks ok 21:00 jin_xi i think if you make transparent texture for sign entity instead of leaving textures empty it will look good 21:00 jin_xi or only put entity there after first edit 21:03 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 21:19 NekoGloop Hello...? 21:21 NekoGloop Let's see... RealBadAngel, u there? :3 21:28 Voltaire Im going to go with...no. 21:30 NekoGloop Me too. o.o 21:30 NekoGloop Did he get THAT drunk? :P 21:31 Voltaire He is going to wake up infront of someone elses keyboard. 21:32 NekoGloop lolwat 21:33 Voltaire Hey BanessaE 21:34 Voltaire Hi VanessaE. 21:34 Voltaire Yay! Second time luky. 21:34 VanessaE hey 21:35 Voltaire Rooster Halo fails is soooo funnny! 21:43 NekoGloop Meow~! :3 21:45 * NekoGloop kicks Voltaire 21:46 VanessaE now now 21:47 * Voltaire starts to cry. 21:47 * NekoGloop hugs Voltaire :3 21:51 JamieWill can someone try to get on my server, it is new and for me and a friend so im not sure of it works? 21:52 NekoGloop lol what is it? 21:52 JamieWill Minetest Version 0.4.1 IP is 2.96.20.23 and Port is 30050 21:52 JamieWill Thanxs 21:53 * NekoGloop doesnt feel like booting up 0.4.1 21:53 NekoGloop I'm having too much fun with 0.4.2-rc1, and I'm modding atm 21:54 JamieWill is there a .4.2? 21:54 NekoGloop yes, check the blog 21:54 JamieWill oh ok 21:54 JamieWill is there a server or more than one? 21:55 NekoGloop well there's a few servers, yes. 21:55 NekoGloop would help to have one more ;) 21:55 JamieWill Ill try? 21:56 JamieWill Will anyone else try my 0.4.1 server? 22:05 JamieWill krayon can u try my server? 22:09 JamieWill Who wants to see if my 0.4.2 server is working? 22:11 VanessaE address? 22:12 JamieWill Minetest Version 0.4.2 IP is 2.96.20.23 and Port is 30049 22:12 VanessaE ok 22:12 VanessaE trying..... 22:13 VanessaE wait.. 22:13 VanessaE may have something 22:13 VanessaE *chime* 22:13 VanessaE it works 22:16 JamieWill How do you reduce lag would connecting directly to router/modem via cat5 work? 22:17 VanessaE no 22:18 VanessaE I'm not sure how to fix such issues, except to say it's most likely the game, not your hardware 22:19 VanessaE all I know about it is the game sends data to the clients, they send data back, and there's too much time being taken to interpret that data before each end can respond 22:19 VanessaE so the only solution is to send smaller quantities of data, more often 22:20 VanessaE how that's done, I don't know. 22:20 JamieWill so what about backup time? 22:20 VanessaE backup time? 23:17 JamieWill how do you let people know about your server? 23:17 jin_xi announce it on the forum 23:17 VanessaE post in the servers section of the forums. One thread only, 23:19 JamieWill ok