Time Nick Message 00:16 GloopMaster Went off because Minetest was lagging a lot. Wasnt the IRC connection though. 00:17 VanessaE lag is a problem lately with the game 00:17 GloopMaster HL me if you're talking to me, not likely to look at the chat otherwise. 00:17 GloopMaster And, no, it was the fact I had youtube open. :3 00:17 VanessaE haha 00:17 VanessaE that would do it! 00:18 GloopMaster Made a new world btw. Spawned in a desert xD 00:22 GloopMaster btw, VanessaE, your coloreddyes only made minetest crash. I read somewhere about a node limit, is this still in effect? If it is, that's probably the problem. 00:22 VanessaE it's not dyes that did it, it's the overall number-of-nodes limit as you figured. 00:22 VanessaE solution is to get 0.4.2-rc1 00:22 GloopMaster How do I get that? 00:23 VanessaE that issue was partly a buffer size issue and partly a number of node indexes issue, both have since been fixed. 00:23 VanessaE http://c55.me/blog/ 00:23 VanessaE grab the release in the top post 00:23 VanessaE or built the latest git 00:23 VanessaE build* 00:23 GloopMaster I think I did that and got 0.4.1... 00:24 VanessaE nope, the latest release therein is 0.4.2-rc1 :-) 00:24 GloopMaster I mean with the git thing. 00:24 VanessaE ah, well no git also has 0.4.2 00:25 VanessaE I have a copy of it on hand for testing purposes until the servers I play upgrade 00:25 * GloopMaster assumes the download link on the website is this "git" 00:25 VanessaE nope 00:25 GloopMaster Ah. 00:25 GloopMaster That would be the problem xD 00:25 VanessaE git = the gihub link under "source code" 00:25 GloopMaster Gonna just copy my mods folder over, will that work? 00:26 VanessaE besides, the c55.me link is c55's blog :-) 00:26 VanessaE there's a 0.4.2 zip there (for windows) 00:26 VanessaE yeah, you can just copy whatever you need to 00:26 GloopMaster I know. I downloaded it :3 00:26 VanessaE textures, mods, settings 00:26 GloopMaster worlds? Or no? 00:26 VanessaE those too 00:27 GloopMaster Ah, but I think I want to start fresh. 00:27 VanessaE exception is a couple of mods don't work in 0.4.2 due to changes in the modding API 00:27 GloopMaster Oh, so I'm screwed if something fails? 00:27 VanessaE like creative inventory - but that's been superseded 00:27 GloopMaster Ah, I dont use that. 00:28 VanessaE naw, just uninstall the offending mod. eventually the author thereof will update it, if there's a point to :-) 00:28 GloopMaster How do i know which one is offending? 00:28 VanessaE there'll be some kind of error message that makes it clear 00:28 GloopMaster Oh yeah, I size up my window to cover that thing. :3 00:29 VanessaE heh 00:29 VanessaE the console is quite handy though 00:29 VanessaE (or controlling terminal in my case; I use Linux) 00:29 GloopMaster I was expecting it to crash instantly, given my track record of computer-related problems that are just "flukes". 00:30 VanessaE haha 00:30 VanessaE oh be careful of the F10 key, speaking of crashes. that's the chat/command console inside the game, but sometimes it segfaults. Irrlicht bug. 00:31 GloopMaster oh my god. This mob mod is lag incarnate. 00:31 VanessaE which one? 00:31 VanessaE the one that adds DMs? 00:31 GloopMaster The one in the blog post. 00:31 VanessaE thought so. that bad huh? 00:32 GloopMaster Yesh. 00:32 VanessaE and c55 insists that lua should be enough to make fast, low-CPU-load mobs 00:32 VanessaE :-) 00:32 Tekk_ didn't even realize ttk was in here.. 00:32 GloopMaster And I spawned next to some kind of desert valley thing. Just made me nostagic for zelda 64. :3 00:32 VanessaE heh 00:32 VanessaE you want nostalgic? 00:33 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1912 00:33 GloopMaster :3 00:33 GloopMaster Meow~ 00:34 VanessaE heh 00:34 GloopMaster Now I uninstall the mobs mod. brb 00:34 GloopMaster Made my computer get freakin blazing hot. o.o 00:34 VanessaE oh my 00:34 GloopMaster Too much processing. 00:35 GloopMaster Although my hands were getting cold... 00:36 GloopMaster What is the task you all usually do first? 00:36 GloopMaster In minetest, I mean. 00:36 Tekk_ punch trees 00:36 VanessaE gather wood to make basic tools 00:36 Tekk_ followed by mining stone, then either coal or getting bored and stopping 00:36 VanessaE e.g. wood axes, picks, shovels, swords 00:37 GloopMaster lol 00:37 VanessaE Tekk_: that's why you install a shitload of mods and start building stuff 00:37 GloopMaster I have moreores, so I get a varied amount of... things. 00:37 Tekk_ more ores seems like it'd be helpful 00:37 GloopMaster Cant seem to make bronze though D: 00:37 VanessaE (that's why every mod I make has some kind of crafting recipe so that it can be used in a server/non-creative-mode setting 00:38 VanessaE gloop: copper ingot + tin ingot 00:38 Tekk_ I'd be way more interested if I made some mobs though, I think 00:38 VanessaE (and you have to place them just right in the grid) 00:38 Tekk_ so I should look entities up 00:38 VanessaE Tekk_: someone on the forums has some initial 3d mobs going now 00:38 Tekk_ cool. I'm okay with the 2d ones at the second though 00:39 VanessaE he put up a video of a pterodactyl flying around over a minetest landscape 00:39 Tekk_ just don't know how to define entities well yet 00:39 GloopMaster How do I place them? 1-9, going from top-left to the bottom-right, example: 00:39 GloopMaster 123 00:39 GloopMaster 456 00:39 GloopMaster 789 00:39 VanessaE I think tin in 5 and copper in 8 00:39 VanessaE or vice versa 00:39 VanessaE calinou really should make recipes like that shapeless. 00:39 GloopMaster Oh, I must have has them flipped. 00:40 GloopMaster I never play multiplayer lol 00:40 GloopMaster So I could go edit the mod if I so wished. 00:40 VanessaE oh sure 00:40 GloopMaster But I know very little about LUA programming. 00:40 VanessaE lua is easy to get a grasp of 00:40 GloopMaster In fact, I know nothing about it xD 00:40 Tekk_ yeah, just try it. it's really easy 00:40 GloopMaster Might take it up later. 00:41 Tekk_ C api is really easy too 00:41 Tekk_ but you won't be in there 00:41 GloopMaster Oh wow, good thing I deleted the mobs thing or I'd be dead, it's nighttime lol 00:41 VanessaE those mobs are harmless :-) 00:42 GloopMaster lol "LuaEntity name 'mobs:dungeon_master' not found" everytime I load a new chunk. 00:42 VanessaE heh 00:42 * GloopMaster assumes it uses a chunking system like minecraft 00:42 Tekk_ VanessaE: yeah, when you install a mod with entities it keeps trying to spawn them if you use that map 00:42 Tekk_ it's annoying 00:42 VanessaE sounds like the mod doesn't clean up after itself 00:43 GloopMaster It cant lol. 00:43 GloopMaster Not capable of doing so. 00:43 VanessaE or rather, the game doesn't anyway 00:43 Tekk_ yeah, it'd have to be in the game itself 00:43 VanessaE if a mod isn't installed, the game shouldn't try to spawn things the mod supplied 00:43 GloopMaster oh, screw it, /giveme mese 99 >:D 00:44 Tekk_ I was a bit disappointed to find out that the console isn't a lua console 00:44 GloopMaster This chat is more active than a -chat- channel. :3 00:45 GloopMaster Oh look, my leaves still look like lava. 00:45 * GloopMaster has LAVA LEAVES!! FEAR ME!! 00:45 VanessaE GloopMaster: very strange - are you using the direct3d renderer or opengl? 00:45 VanessaE (or was it directx? I forget) 00:45 GloopMaster Yes, it is using opengl. 00:45 * GloopMaster has no idea what this means but ok 00:45 Tekk_ VanessaE: direct3d is the portion of directx that gives 3d rendering 00:45 Tekk_ I think the driver is direct3d though 00:46 VanessaE try disabling the texture atlas 00:46 VanessaE else I'm out of ideas :-) 00:46 GloopMaster Placed leaf blocks still look like leaves, but in the inventory thumbnail it renders lava. 00:47 GloopMaster Well no duh, I'm lagging. Didnt turn off the fancy-dancy graphics options. 00:47 VanessaE it probably won't help, but add this line to your minetest.conf file: enable_texture_atlas = false 00:47 VanessaE see if it does anything 00:48 GloopMaster Nope. :3 00:49 GloopMaster Cactus, y u no harmful? 00:49 VanessaE we don't want them to be :-) 00:49 Tekk_ GloopMaster: because there's no on collision callback for nodes 00:49 GloopMaster also, what tool is needed for cactus? 00:49 Tekk_ swords work 00:50 GloopMaster Tekk_: Then what about pressure plates, hm? 00:50 VanessaE mesecons mod. 00:50 Tekk_ GloopMaster: are there pressure plates? 00:50 GloopMaster I think so. At least in the mesecons mod. 00:50 Tekk_ all I know is that I looked into implementing hurting with cacti, couldn't find an on collision callback so gave up 00:51 GloopMaster not sure if they are included yet, but since mesecons arent I'm assuming no. 00:51 VanessaE oh wait, are you having trouble removing a pressure plate? 00:51 GloopMaster No, not that. *facepalm* 00:51 GloopMaster I'm having trouble removing a cactus :3 00:51 VanessaE well duh :-) 00:52 GloopMaster Too pokey. :3 00:52 VanessaE just trying to figure out how you segued from cactus to pressure plates ;-) 00:52 Tekk_ VanessaE: GloopMaster was using them as an example of an on_collide 00:52 VanessaE oh that 00:52 GloopMaster Because of node-based collisions. 00:52 * VanessaE is clearly getting tired :-/ 00:53 GloopMaster lol cactus renders as brick block. 00:53 * GloopMaster hugs VanessaE* Is that a problem? :3 00:54 VanessaE haha 00:54 * GloopMaster is also tired, so? 00:55 GloopMaster This coalmod is sooo unbalanced. What with iron-power weapons? I recommended averaging the stone and iron values, seems like a good idea. 00:55 VanessaE my mind gets all twisted when I'm tired :-) 00:55 [JJ]Albert Haha, yes! My new computer is awesome! 00:55 GloopMaster lol 00:55 GloopMaster @ both of you 00:56 GloopMaster WHEEEEE~ *splat* 00:56 VanessaE wait a minute, what am I saying? my mind is *already* twisted 00:56 [JJ]Albert I never sleep. I'm a robot. :E00 00:56 GloopMaster Oh man, the fall was a little too high. 00:56 VanessaE AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEE!!!!! *splat* 00:56 GloopMaster lmao vanessae 00:57 GloopMaster there needs to be a cactus mod that makes them harmful :3 00:57 VanessaE noooo 00:57 Tekk_ I'll probably implement it if it's possible in the future 00:57 Tekk_ it's a trivial mod 00:57 GloopMaster Cant be THAT hard, no? 00:57 VanessaE unifieddyes uses them to make green, as does moreblocks, don't want to make it hurt at the same time :( 00:57 [JJ]Albert Whelp anyways, I'm excited. The first time I've succesfully built a computer on my own. :p 00:58 Tekk_ right now it's impossible 00:58 Tekk_ because there's no way to detect a collision with the player 00:58 GloopMaster Would help with making adventure maps. 00:58 Tekk_ afaict at least 00:58 GloopMaster Check the code for the mesecons pressure plates. 00:58 Tekk_ oh, I think I know how the plates work 00:58 GloopMaster See if it can be ported to a 3d object. 00:58 VanessaE Tekk_: you sure about that? with all the work c55 did on the collision system recently, surely there's something one can use 00:59 Tekk_ they'll just be an object you can walk through, then it checks the player position against itself 00:59 Tekk_ if player position == plate position then tri 00:59 Tekk_ p 00:59 Tekk_ VanessaE: I didn't see anything in a search for collisions in the lua api. 00:59 GloopMaster Oh my god, first time I've seen tin so soon after looking. 01:00 VanessaE hm, I guess not then. bummer 01:01 GloopMaster And copper too. w00t! 01:01 VanessaE well, 01:01 [JJ]Albert Lol 01:01 VanessaE it's easy to check a radius form a certain spot for the presence of a particular node 01:02 [JJ]Albert GloopMaster: Your one to laugh. I've got a brand-spanking new computer that I built by hand, and you've got some randomly generated piece of game metal. 01:02 [JJ]Albert But, to each his onw, 01:02 VanessaE so, assuming radius can be fractional, just check every 10th of a second or something, if cactus < 0.5 nodes from the player's position, deal some damage 01:02 [JJ]Albert *own 01:02 VanessaE or at least set a flag 01:02 GloopMaster No, 0.25 01:02 GloopMaster 0.5 is too close. 01:02 VanessaE ok, 0.25 then 01:02 GloopMaster half a node away 01:02 [JJ]Albert But, I won't brag for too long. :p 01:02 [JJ]Albert Just wanna throw in, I got it built for under 200. 01:03 VanessaE nice 01:03 VanessaE mine cost around $600 or so 01:03 [JJ]Albert Well the HDD is a bit iffy ATM. 01:03 VanessaE actually closer to 700, but it's fairly high-end or was at the time 01:03 GloopMaster Mine cost about 450 or so, but was paid over almost two years. Refitted just before shipping, with no extra charge :3 01:03 [JJ]Albert It was a 6 dollar toss SATA at a rummage. I see the sectors are half-gone. It was 500GB. But now it's effectively 200 or so. 01:04 VanessaE (AMD Phenom II X6 1055T with 4GB RAM, 60GB OCZ Vertex2 SSD, 500GB of spinning rust, ATI Radeon HD6870 video with 1GB, running dual 1280x1024 panels) 01:04 GloopMaster Meow 01:04 GloopMaster Meow~* 01:05 GloopMaster Is there a fence gate mod or am I just doing the crafting recipe wrong? 01:05 * GloopMaster has only played minecraft pocket edition 01:05 VanessaE there is, but I don't know the recipe offhand 01:05 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=896 01:05 VanessaE that's th eone 01:06 GloopMaster Oooh, I dont have xfences either... 01:06 GloopMaster And they work with mesecons. Sweet. 01:06 VanessaE GloopMaster: don't forget to get my photorealistic texture pack :-) 01:07 GloopMaster I'm just using the default because it usually blends well with mods' textures. 01:07 VanessaE mine supports roughly four metric assloads* of mods. 01:08 VanessaE (*one assload is approximately two shitloads) 01:09 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=19702 01:10 GloopMaster Lets see. Mesecons, colored stuff (as soon as I reinstall it), moreores, moreblocks, a particular bedmod that is on the first page of the mod forum atm, locked_sign, infinitytools, and doors+ 01:10 GloopMaster as well as the gate mod as soon as I download and install 01:11 VanessaE hey cornernote. 01:12 GloopMaster all of them but infinitytools, doors+, locked_sign, and the bedmod are supported. I might as well install it. 01:13 GloopMaster That picture is part of a map that you have to showcase texture packs? 01:13 GloopMaster How does one get mese tools other than a pickaxe? O.o 01:14 VanessaE indeed it is. 01:14 VanessaE there is only one mese tool in the default 01:14 VanessaE I think you need a mod called mese starter pack? 01:14 GloopMaster Hm. 01:15 GloopMaster Oh god, 2 min download. At least it isnt 46min like touhou retardedly took. 01:15 GloopMaster 46 mins for each part of 4. 01:16 GloopMaster That was a long 3 1/2 hours. 01:16 VanessaE eek 01:16 VanessaE oh what size are you getting? 01:17 GloopMaster 512 px because I can 01:17 VanessaE you'll need a pretty beefy system to use the 512px one :-) 01:17 GloopMaster Oh, now you tell me. 01:17 VanessaE get the 64px one if your machine's lower-end :-) 01:17 GloopMaster I dont even know how to use texture packs xD 01:18 GloopMaster That should be in the next update, an in-game texture pack and/or mod changer. 01:18 VanessaE also note that the game will take WAY longer to start up 01:18 GloopMaster So? 01:18 VanessaE just letting you know :-) 01:18 GloopMaster i get load time patience from minecraft, I can take it. 01:19 VanessaE on my box, it takes a good 60+ seconds with my default mod set 01:19 GloopMaster And you use which res? 01:20 VanessaE 512 01:20 GloopMaster Oh, so I'm fine :P 01:21 GloopMaster how to edit texture path? *clueless face here* 01:21 VanessaE edit your minetest.conf 01:21 VanessaE texture_path = /path/to/texture/files 01:22 VanessaE or, you can copy the png's to /textures/all 01:22 GloopMaster Nah. Too simple. :3 01:23 GloopMaster xD the inventory still renders wrong 01:23 VanessaE but it looks better now! ;-) 01:24 GloopMaster And now we wait for daytime. 01:24 GloopMaster Too actually SEE these things. 01:24 VanessaE /time 6000 01:24 * GloopMaster tries not to use commands as much as he can 01:24 GloopMaster One problem: I dont recognise anything now. :( 01:24 VanessaE ? 01:25 GloopMaster Everything looks too different. :( 01:25 GloopMaster Sword looks like a knife xD 01:26 VanessaE heh 01:26 VanessaE once you get used to it, the default textures look...ugly :-) 01:26 GloopMaster Woah, epic lag spike of randomness as I stand still. *derpface* 01:27 VanessaE using 3dforniture by chance? 01:27 GloopMaster Nope. Conflicts with the bedmod I use. 01:27 VanessaE oh ok 01:28 * GloopMaster pokes VanessaE 01:28 VanessaE OW! 01:28 GloopMaster :3 01:29 VanessaE those are sensitive 01:29 GloopMaster What are? O.o 01:30 VanessaE ;-) 01:30 GloopMaster Seriously? 01:31 GloopMaster No answer, just a face hm? 01:31 VanessaE yup :-) 01:32 GloopMaster What do you think I poked on your body? O_o 01:33 VanessaE nevermind, just joking :-) 01:33 GloopMaster Oh, you meant... O_O 01:34 GloopMaster Well, gates mod is failing. Any ideas? 01:35 VanessaE no clue, I've never used it 01:35 GloopMaster Anyone else on this long list of users online even looking at the chat? 01:35 Tekk_ I am 01:36 GloopMaster All it registers as is "File". 01:36 GloopMaster Not folder, "File" 01:37 GloopMaster Oh, and, thanks for the offer VanessaE, but ima use the default one now. 01:37 VanessaE ok 01:38 * GloopMaster pokes VanessaE's arm 01:39 VanessaE heh 01:39 Tekk_ oh yeah, being specific NOW 01:39 GloopMaster :3 Hi~ 01:39 Tekk_ hello =3 01:39 GloopMaster Not you... 01:40 GloopMaster Meow~? Pet the kitty~? 01:40 VanessaE only my two cats here get petted, and my hubby of course :-) 01:41 * GloopMaster sad neko face .m. 01:42 VanessaE hey BC 01:42 GloopMaster Meow~! 01:42 Bad_Command hi 01:43 * GloopMaster perks up a bit :3 01:44 * GloopMaster still wants to get petted .m. 01:44 * Tekk_ petcs GloopMaster 01:44 Tekk_ pets* 01:44 * GloopMaster purrs :3 01:44 leo_rockway what's going on in here? o.o 01:45 * GloopMaster is a nekoboy :3 01:45 leo_rockway I have no idea what that is. 01:45 GloopMaster neko = cat in japanese, in otaku culture often means catboy/girl though 01:45 GloopMaster :3 01:46 leo_rockway huh 01:46 GloopMaster :3 01:48 Tekk_ leo_rockway: cat ears + cat tail, otherwise human 01:48 GloopMaster And I have claws too, but they retract so no worries. :3 01:49 leo_rockway o.o 01:49 Tekk_ that one's a bit more rare, generally it's just fangs in addition =3 01:49 GloopMaster Well I'm not exactly your normal human boy either. 01:49 GloopMaster :3 01:49 GloopMaster and I have the fangs too. 01:50 GloopMaster So how the heck do I get a bucket? 01:50 Tekk_ same recipe as in minecrav 01:50 Tekk_ a v of 3 iron 01:50 Tekk_ if I remember the recipe right 01:50 GloopMaster thankies 01:50 GloopMaster :3 01:50 Tekk_ no problem 01:51 GloopMaster Any more really important mods? (excluding mobs cuz we all know that turns my computer hot as hell) 01:51 Tekk_ dunno 01:51 Tekk_ timber style mods are helpful 01:52 GloopMaster "timber"? 01:52 GloopMaster something to do with trees? :3 01:53 Tekk_ hit a wood block, all the wood above it in the tree goes to you 01:54 GloopMaster Oh those. Cheating, imo 01:54 Tekk_ not really 01:54 GloopMaster :3 01:55 Tekk_ it brings trees in line with the other plants in minecraft 01:55 Tekk_ and the timber mod is basically just a plain minecraft port :P 01:55 GloopMaster And I'm getting some funky things from slow as hell chunk rendering. :3 01:57 GloopMaster mini rave party with coloredwood when its loading lol 01:58 Tekk_ sounds cool :3 01:58 * GloopMaster neko-cuddles Tekk_ :3 01:58 * Tekk_ cuddles GloopMaster 01:58 * GloopMaster purrs :3 01:59 Tekk_ leo_rockway: any progress on the ideal api? 01:59 Tekk_ obviously most of it won't go into the core engine but it'll probably have quite a bit of influence on the modules 02:00 Tekk_ well, parts will go into the core engeine to allow the foundation for something like that, but you won't see it as much until modules 02:01 GloopMaster Oh look, it's mr. ICanBuildAComputer again. 02:01 GloopMaster Hello~ :3 02:02 GloopMaster MINETEST. STOP LAGGING. NAO. 02:08 GloopMaster lol furnace looks like a grassy dirt block. 02:14 GloopMaster gtg 02:25 leo_rockway Tekk_: no, I'm working on my inscription to a race. 02:26 Tekk_ okay 02:26 leo_rockway bicycleeeee RACE! 02:37 cornernote hey 02:37 leo_rockway hallo 02:38 cornernote anyone made any cool piston things? or other mesecons things ? 02:38 cornernote i made a 4 high x 2 wide automatic door 02:38 cornernote it was the first time i played with mesecons 02:39 cornernote i watching piston invetions of minetest and mt-like games on youtube 02:39 cornernote some cool things in other games, wonder if i can make them in mt 02:40 VanessaE mesecons should be able to do all the same things that MC/redstone can 02:40 VanessaE but the circuits will probably have to be structured a little differently 02:40 cornernote i saw the half-adder in the forums 02:41 cornernote and someone said they made a full-adder 02:41 cornernote pretty amazing 02:41 leo_rockway mc sounds interesting and complicated at the same time 02:42 cornernote i think mc mods are more powerful and faster because they are not lua 02:42 Tekk_ cornernote: well 02:42 leo_rockway luajit o.o 02:42 Tekk_ yeah 02:42 cornernote at the same time i think minetest only just has mods in 0.4, so hopefully things get better 02:42 Tekk_ I think luajit supports the lua C api 02:42 Tekk_ and luajit is probably faster than java 02:42 Tekk_ or at least close to it in speed 02:43 leo_rockway Tekk_: what was your objection to luajit when I mentioned it? 02:43 Tekk_ the powerful thing is merely a function of exposing more things to the mods 02:43 cornernote luajit is what mt uses ? 02:43 leo_rockway portability? 02:43 Tekk_ leo_rockway: yeah, I want to be compatible with plain lua by default 02:43 Tekk_ and we can switch to luajit later if we need the speed 02:43 leo_rockway cornernote: mt uses plain Lua 02:43 VanessaE thexyz tried using luajit with minetest and apparently it was...not useful. 02:43 leo_rockway :S 02:43 Tekk_ VanessaE: probably not for smaller mods 02:43 Tekk_ but a big one would benefit 02:43 VanessaE what about compiled lua? .luac? didn't someone mention those also work? 02:44 Tekk_ VanessaE: wouldn't make a difference 02:44 VanessaE oh 02:44 Tekk_ lua already compiles to bytecode on load anyway 02:44 Tekk_ all you'd save is a bit of startup time 02:44 VanessaE damn 02:44 leo_rockway I'm guessing luac is like pyc 02:44 VanessaE well so much for that idea 02:46 cornernote >> LuaJIT implements the full set of language features defined by Lua 5.1. The virtual machine (VM) is API- and ABI-compatible to the standard Lua interpreter and can be deployed as a drop-in replacement. 02:46 cornernote so it didnt work as a "drop-in" replacement ? 02:49 VanessaE it worked but it was slower I guees 02:49 VanessaE guess 02:49 Tekk_ cornernote: no, I think it was just that it had no performance benefit 02:50 VanessaE you know, back in the day we had compilers that would take a high level language and turn it into actual machine code. 02:51 VanessaE why doesn't that exist for lua? bytecode != machine code 02:51 VanessaE I mean, it works for C/C++/etc 02:52 Tekk_ VanessaE: some people still bother with that 02:52 Tekk_ there are a few scheme compilers 02:52 VanessaE I mean for traditionally-interpreted languages that is 02:52 VanessaE BASIC typically 02:53 Tekk_ scheme is traditionally interpreted 02:53 VanessaE ah 02:53 VanessaE never messed with scheme 02:54 Tekk_ lisp dialect, almost as old as basic :) 02:55 Tekk_ also jit has some advantages 02:55 Tekk_ there are some cases where jit can be faster than native 02:55 Tekk_ because of optimizations you can't catch at compile time 02:55 Tekk_ they're pretty rare though. 02:56 leo_rockway Tekk_: so... how about getting us that UDP port? o.o 02:57 Tekk_ leo_rockway: be a man and tunnel X over ssh 02:57 Tekk_ 0.01 fps isn't good enough for you? 02:57 leo_rockway how would that help to set up a minetest server? 02:57 leo_rockway or mosh? 02:57 Tekk_ minetest server runs on the server, you run a minetest client on the server 02:59 leo_rockway -.- 02:59 leo_rockway that'd be single player 02:59 cornernote and other than textures, is there any api to mod the client ? 02:59 Tekk_ nah, I'll connect from my machine 02:59 Tekk_ and we'll play over my lan 03:00 leo_rockway :S 03:00 Tekk_ cornernote: no 03:00 Tekk_ minetest explicitly has NO way to mod the client 03:00 cornernote thats what i thought 03:00 Tekk_ though you don't need it 03:00 cornernote but in these early days its not needed 03:01 Tekk_ why would you need it later on? 03:01 cornernote client mods ? 03:01 cornernote all kinds of reasons 03:01 cornernote people who want to make helpers for other players 03:01 cornernote GPS 03:02 cornernote inventory info 03:02 cornernote craft helpers 03:02 cornernote bookmark systems 03:02 Tekk_ could a minimap not be implemented in the current system? 03:02 cornernote build automaters 03:02 Tekk_ I don't know to what extend you can send stuff over 03:03 cornernote i think that as the community grows and evolves, core stuff will start as mods and community stuff 03:03 Tekk_ that's already happened 03:03 cornernote yep 03:04 cornernote so the point of client mods is to get ideas for improvement from the community 03:04 Tekk_ but the server mods seem to be doing that pretty well already 03:04 cornernote yes, i agree 03:04 Tekk_ and they make implementation way easier for both parties 03:04 cornernote and they are far more important than a client modding system 03:04 Tekk_ you DON'T want to be stuck where minecraft is right now, where a bunch of awesome mods are stuck in single player only 03:05 cornernote its when we have some big mmorpg minetest servers running, then i think client mods will be in demand 03:05 cornernote if thats the direction mt goes 03:05 Tekk_ hmm, ttk isn't around for me to annoy about that :p 03:05 cornernote ? 03:06 Tekk_ ttk runs the best minecraft server ever 03:06 Tekk_ it's kinda mmorpg 03:06 cornernote ip ? 03:06 cornernote oh, mc 03:06 cornernote nevermind 03:06 Tekk_ he wants to move to mt once it's capable of handling it, from what I've heard 03:06 Tekk_ which explains why he's here 03:07 cornernote ahh, cool 03:07 cornernote id love a mmorpg minetest game 03:08 cornernote im trying to collect mods and put things together that are fun to play, but i dont think i could make a whole game even if i had all the mods in teh world =) 03:08 cornernote there are so many elements that need to be hand-tweaked 03:09 leo_rockway Tekk_: is that civcraft? 03:09 Tekk_ leo_rockway: yes 03:09 cornernote from tools/weapons, leveling systems, really good organisation of craft recipies, mobs, dungeons, clans, etc, etc 03:10 Tekk_ cornernote: in addition I've found that bumping movement speed up to 6 makes the game way better 03:10 Tekk_ normal mt feels so slow 03:10 Tekk_ GloopMaster: welcome back 03:10 * GloopMaster pokes #minetest :3 03:11 GloopMaster I have a "Bronze Ppick"! 03:11 GloopMaster :D 03:11 Tekk_ awesome, you got it working :D 03:11 GloopMaster 3 copper ingots and a tin ingot. 03:11 GloopMaster Looked at the changelog lol 03:11 Tekk_ ah, does that mean there's pewter now too? 03:11 GloopMaster And that was meant more for the typo. 03:12 GloopMaster And no, I dont think so. 03:12 Tekk_ odd that the recipe would be changed for that then 03:12 leo_rockway Tekk_: where did you tweak the speed? 03:12 GloopMaster Not in Calinou's mod anyways 03:12 Tekk_ leo_rockway: localplayer.cpp 03:12 leo_rockway thanks 03:12 Tekk_ let me look up the line 03:13 * GloopMaster pokes VanessaE's arm again :3 03:13 Tekk_ oh wait, nevermind 03:13 Tekk_ I'm on the wrong computer :P 03:13 leo_rockway position += m_speed * dtime; 03:13 Tekk_ yeah 03:13 Tekk_ you need to set m_speed 03:13 leo_rockway I'll add + 9k! 03:13 leo_rockway xD 03:13 GloopMaster OVER NINE THOUSAND?!!? 03:13 GloopMaster :D 03:14 Tekk_ try 10 and work your way down from there 03:14 Tekk_ that's what I did until I found my sweet spot 03:14 * GloopMaster wants to be petted :3 03:14 * Tekk_ pets GloopMaster 03:14 * GloopMaster purrs :3 03:15 * GloopMaster pokes whoever is reading this but not talking 03:15 GloopMaster Oh, I have an idea. DIRT tools. :3 03:16 GloopMaster Plentiful supply, so weaker than wood slightly. 03:16 Tekk_ I've briefly considered gravel tools in minecraft 03:16 Tekk_ one use stone tool, basically 03:16 GloopMaster Nah, make it like 3 or 4. 1 use is waste of materials for e.g. pickaxe or axe that use 3 of the material to make. 03:17 Tekk_ actually no 03:17 Tekk_ flint tools 03:17 Tekk_ wood durability, iron speed 03:17 GloopMaster FIYAH! 03:17 GloopMaster :D 03:17 Tekk_ does mt even have flint? 03:17 GloopMaster no. 03:17 Tekk_ guess I'd have to add that as well then 03:17 Tekk_ any good at art, GloopMaster? :3 03:18 leo_rockway Sten o.o 03:18 GloopMaster I could make something to suffice. Getting the image to you is another story. 03:18 Tekk_ leo_rockway: you think he'd be interested in minetest mod art? 03:18 Tekk_ he doesn't seem to work well in style constraints 03:18 leo_rockway you can always ask 03:18 Tekk_ or do you think it was more time that was the issue? 03:19 GloopMaster I could make 8-bit based graphics... probably not have the patience to make a full texture pack though. 03:19 GloopMaster Or retro, rather, not 8-bit. 03:19 Tekk_ GloopMaster: it'd just be flint and a toolset, if I got it working 03:19 GloopMaster Need me to link my game? 03:19 Tekk_ sure 03:19 Tekk_ I'd link mine but I'm still working on the engine :P 03:19 Tekk_ so there is no game 03:20 GloopMaster C:\Documents and Settings\Tommy\My Documents\Minecraft Mods and stuff\Minetest\minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32\minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32\textures\realistic\Vanessa_64 03:20 GloopMaster Ooops. 03:20 GloopMaster Didnt copy the link *facepalm* 03:20 GloopMaster http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/179288-gloop 03:20 GloopMaster There. :3 03:21 GloopMaster Made all the graphics myself, I did. 03:21 GloopMaster :3 03:21 Tekk_ how's gm8? 03:22 GloopMaster gm8 is decent. Not as buggy as 8.1 03:22 GloopMaster I use the free version. No online games for me. :3 03:22 Tekk_ I used 7 pro, way back :3 03:23 Tekk_ actually not really that way back 03:23 Tekk_ but still before 8, obviously 03:23 GloopMaster I started with 7.3. Put it down for a bit, came back later when 8 was released. 03:23 GloopMaster Never purchased :3 03:23 Tekk_ don't remember what 7 version I had 03:23 Tekk_ have you played with the historical versions? 03:24 GloopMaster No. :3 03:24 Tekk_ 1.1 is pretty cool 03:24 VanessaE there, now I'm back 03:24 VanessaE (yay.) 03:24 Tekk_ welcome back 03:24 GloopMaster What? 03:24 GloopMaster What happened to VanessaE? 03:25 VanessaE I wandered off for a bit to clean up a little around my desk 03:25 VanessaE put a couple of old computer cases away 03:25 VanessaE etc 03:26 * GloopMaster cute lil neko face :3 03:26 * VanessaE <-- geek. :P 03:27 * GloopMaster still cute lil neko face :3 03:28 * GloopMaster wanna be petted :3 03:28 * Tekk_ pets GloopMaster again 03:29 * GloopMaster purrs :3 again 03:34 * GloopMaster pokes VanessaE :3 03:34 * VanessaE scruffs GloopMaster 03:34 GloopMaster What? 03:34 cy1 VanessaE is the ferretmaster 03:35 GloopMaster But what did she just do...? 03:36 Tekk_ GloopMaster: cats basically have extra skin on the back of their neck, called the scruff 03:36 VanessaE to 'scruff' a cat means to grab it by the scruff of the neck 03:36 Tekk_ that's how cats carry kittens around 03:37 GloopMaster I doubt you would be able to pick me up, assuming that little detail is kept in my nekoform 03:37 VanessaE usually what you do when a cat misbehaves, you either use said scruff to remove the cat from the room, or you hold him or her down for several seconds (a way of saying "I'm the boss.") 03:38 leo_rockway I pick my cat up from the scruff 03:38 Tekk_ may not work so well for holding the kitten down to discourage, considering the endorphin release.. 03:38 Tekk_ I don't need to bother with the scruff, my cat will climb up me and sit on my shoulder o.o 03:38 GloopMaster Meow~! 03:38 GloopMaster :3 03:39 VanessaE my cats are ...unruly.. 03:39 VanessaE but at least they're potty trained :-) 03:39 Tekk_ hopefully at least better than eat your hand off unruly? 03:39 VanessaE (seriously, I trained them to 'go' in a regular people toilet. saves me a LOT of work and a fair bit of money) 03:40 GloopMaster ... :3 03:40 GloopMaster Ew. 03:40 Tekk_ VanessaE: did you teach them to flush too? 03:40 Tekk_ when they're done I mean, they'll flush for fun anyway.. 03:40 VanessaE Tekk_: no, but there are ways to train a cat to do that also. 03:40 GloopMaster lol ya right 03:40 Tekk_ yeah 03:40 cornernote did you teach them the rule, if its brown flush it down, if its yellow let it mellow 03:40 GloopMaster Ew. 03:41 GloopMaster Just... Ew. 03:41 VanessaE GloopMaster: what ew? it's a mechiah not having to deal with a litter box. 03:41 GloopMaster Just... Dont need this much detial. 03:41 VanessaE hey, at least I'm not describing the quality and quantity of their poop :-) 03:42 Tekk_ cornernote: serious reply to unserious question: probably want to refrain from that one, given how much ammonia is in cat urine 03:42 * GloopMaster scratches VanessaE's arm w/ claws out 03:42 VanessaE Tekk_: a friend of mine, years and years ago, used to do Tie Dye. Says processed cat urine was, at the time, the best source of ammonia around for that purpose 03:43 * VanessaE clips GloopMaster's claws 03:43 Tekk_ VanessaE: I'm not surprised 03:43 GloopMaster ;_; 03:43 Tekk_ GloopMaster: at least she's sane enough to not declaw 03:43 * GloopMaster is now clawless, until they grow back at the same rate which my nails do irl 03:43 VanessaE heh 03:43 GloopMaster Well, the claws arent doing anything. 03:44 Tekk_ GloopMaster: declawing a cat is equivalent to cutting off your fingers at the last knuckle out 03:44 Tekk_ physiologically, not metaphorically 03:44 GloopMaster I know. 03:46 GloopMaster I just jumped INSIDE a block xD 03:46 Tekk_ you can cover yourself in blocks as well 03:46 GloopMaster I know. 03:47 GloopMaster Placing a block doesnt check if you are at the current position of the block being placed 03:47 Tekk_ yeah, which I didn't know before I tried fixing cacti 03:47 cy1 GloopMaster: unlike minecraft, you can't kill people with sand :p 03:47 Tekk_ I thought that the damage while inside thing was on collision 03:47 Tekk_ which is a bit of a shame. sand traps are nice 03:48 * GloopMaster still has not played full pc version of minecraft, only pocket edition :3 03:48 NekoGloop There we go. :3 03:50 * NekoGloop pokes VanessaE :3 03:52 GTRsdk I've seen Minecraft Pocket Edition, but I think Minetest pocket edition (or full edition on tablet) would be better 03:52 Tekk_ I'd love a minetest pocket edition 03:52 Tekk_ minetest would probably run really well on even old phones if view distance was turned down more and other stuff was simplified a bit 03:53 NekoGloop Well but then you get no mods unless those are IAP or DLC or something. 03:53 Tekk_ nah, you could do mods 03:53 GTRsdk connect to server capabilities! :D 03:54 NekoGloop I dont see a problem with a minetest pocket edition, just let them finish the pc version first. :3 04:02 NekoGloop Hi tango_ and ecube :3 04:03 GTRsdk though it probably would just be Minetest mobile or something 04:03 Tekk_ the biggest obstacle would be irrlicht 04:05 NekoGloop Assuming you mean on iDevices, mods would only work thru DLC/IAP's. Modding internal game files directly I believe is actually checked by the core software of the iDevice. 04:05 Tekk_ android would be far preferable 04:06 NekoGloop I know 04:08 NekoGloop Why so dead at midnight, #minetest? 04:08 Tekk_ midnight is the ideal minetest time, everyone is playing 04:08 NekoGloop Oh. Any good servers that dont require sh*tloads of mods to be installed? 04:09 VanessaE none do 04:09 VanessaE server supply their own mods :-) 04:09 GTRsdk iDevices == nightmare * 7^5 04:09 VanessaE servers* 04:10 NekoGloop o rly? 04:10 * NekoGloop goes to find one then :3 04:10 VanessaE you mean routine minetest servers right? 04:11 NekoGloop Any minetest server with a decent amount of people on atm 04:11 Tekk_ I should probably stop being so lazy and join the network for finnish minetest 04:11 Tekk_ maybe I can pick some up 04:11 VanessaE not sure which has the most people or friendliest community, but I play on redcrab.suret.net 30401 (note the area near the spawn is griefed and redcrab isn't on hand to clean it up) 04:11 NekoGloop gtg 04:12 GTRsdk here's an idea... bots for minetest so servers are never truly dead 04:12 GTRsdk or something 04:13 Tekk_ could be cool to have them doing minetesty stuff and then giving it to new players 04:13 Tekk_ resources, that is 04:16 VanessaE morning wow. 04:17 wowiamdiamonds afternoon VanessaE 04:35 wowiamdiamonds i think i remember somebody made a mod that drops stuff like in minecraft and makes you pick up dropped things when you walk over them, does anyone know where that is? (I can't find it) 04:35 Tekk_ wowiamdiamonds: it'd be trivial as far as difficulty, but it'd take forever to do 04:35 Tekk_ since you'd have to override all the default blocks 04:35 VanessaE item_drop partly works that way 04:36 VanessaE but I haven't played with it extensively 04:36 VanessaE at least it works well alongside the timber mod.a 04:36 VanessaE and no patching of the game source is necessary 04:36 Tekk_ yeah, item_drop does exactly that 04:36 Tekk_ except you have to click on the item to use it 04:36 wowiamdiamonds hmmm.. maybe i'm imagining things 04:36 leo_rockway click on what item? 04:36 VanessaE uh, no 04:37 Tekk_ my timber mod originally used it. I liked the effect but dropped it because it didn't integrate with the rest of the inventory stuff 04:37 VanessaE I chop down a tree and timber drops it out as a bunch of entities 04:37 VanessaE then i walk up to them and they just "suck in". 04:37 Tekk_ leo_rockway: when you do item_drop it drops the cube on the ground, you click on the cube and you grab it 04:37 Tekk_ VanessaE: oh, you have a nicer timber mod than me then 04:37 Tekk_ when I used item_drop I had to click 04:37 leo_rockway Tekk_: not with the nicer timber mod that was in github 04:37 leo_rockway I linked you to it 04:51 Tekk_ oh, probably something really basic 04:51 Tekk_ the dropped entity checks player position, if the player is close enough destroy itself and add to the inventory 04:51 leo_rockway it checks ownership of the fallen bits and gives them acceleration towards you within a radius 04:52 Tekk_ ah 04:59 leo_rockway oh, I was going to add speed to my client, then forgot... 05:02 leo_rockway Tekk_: are you back on your other comp? My C++ skills are nil. 05:02 Tekk_ leo_rockway: no, I'm not on my other comp 05:02 Tekk_ have you opened localplayer.cpp? 05:03 leo_rockway mhm 05:03 Tekk_ you're looking for something like max_speed = 4.0 * BS 05:03 Tekk_ iirc 05:03 Tekk_ so search * BS and *BS 05:03 cy1 antispeedhax screws that up 05:03 Tekk_ that should narrow it down 05:03 cy1 you'll be backported like crazy 05:03 leo_rockway yes, I'm there, towards the end. 05:04 Tekk_ leo_rockway: change the 4 to a 6 or whatever you want 05:04 Tekk_ cy1: yeah, but it makes it so much more playable 05:04 Tekk_ you're painfully slow in vanilla 05:04 leo_rockway f32 walkspeed_max = 6.0 * BS; 05:04 Tekk_ yep 05:04 Tekk_ now a quick recompile and you're good 05:04 leo_rockway mhm 05:05 cy1 Tekk_: well, just get fast privileges. then it doesn't check 05:05 leo_rockway I keep the sources 05:05 cy1 ...I think 05:05 cy1 what I hate is the auto-unbuilding 05:05 cy1 like you break 5 blocks and the server is all LOLNOPE 05:05 cy1 because it's lagge 05:05 Tekk_ I hate that too 05:05 leo_rockway yes! 05:05 cy1 so it thinks you did it all at once 05:05 leo_rockway that happens to me _all_ the time 05:05 cy1 they've modded it to even be picky about what you're holding 05:06 cy1 it's like, trying to count along, which increases lag because the server's micromanaging diggers 05:06 cy1 the server doesn't even just un-dig your blocks. it tries to repeat your digging process itself, which takes even more cpu 05:07 cy1 so you get to watch your ghost digging and your inventory slowly filling up on its own 05:07 cy1 aka fucking stupid 05:08 leo_rockway mhm 05:08 cy1 so what if I want to dig the entire map at once? >:o 05:10 leo_rockway wii! Tekk_ I set it on 8 05:10 cy1 zoooooom 05:10 Tekk_ I started on 10 05:10 cy1 server should keep stats on player speeds so that you can find the ones speedhacking and b& them 05:10 cy1 or just warn them if they are doing no harm 05:11 cy1 or thank them for building great stuff really fast 05:11 leo_rockway I only play single, because of the problem you just described. 05:11 leo_rockway I don't actually play. I'm adding mods to my local install so that when we finally get mobs I can play survival. 05:12 cy1 the problem's one of trying to patch up the dam with duct tape 05:12 cy1 when someone is griefing, you take away interact. problem solved. 05:12 cy1 no need to let griefers stay if they just follow "the rules" 05:12 cy1 like backporting them and undigging their blocks 05:13 cy1 that's the server griefing >:( 05:13 cy1 I'd rather have to reload a backup than have people not enjoy themselves. 05:33 GTRsdk Do you need 0.4.2 for the mobs mod? 05:33 VanessaE doubt it, c55 has been working on it for "months" as I recall him writing 05:33 VanessaE it'll probably work with 0.4.0/1 also 05:37 GTRsdk okay 05:37 GTRsdk I put it on my gtr2.mooo.com:30000 server (runs 0.4.1), and now to see how it works... 05:46 leo_rockway the mobs don't do anything, really 05:52 GTRsdk if it works to some point (allowing mob death, but not able to kill players), it coudl be fun 05:53 cy1 are there 3D player models yet 05:53 GTRsdk Has anyone had Minetest crash on a Windows 7 system after it freezing? (my friend just had that issue) 05:54 crimsonmane how do we save progress on minetest? 05:55 GTRsdk Single player, or multiplayer? 05:55 GTRsdk on multiplayer, the server keeps everything safe 05:56 GTRsdk so as long as you ^C before shutting the server down (or shut it down ingame), you should be okay 05:57 SegFault22 hmm... 05:58 SegFault22 ha ha, Menche is what one would call ''furious'' as I executed wave 2 of my attack on his server on port #30002 05:58 SegFault22 so much for a ''new world'' xD 05:59 GTRsdk attacking minetest servers? 06:00 SegFault22 not all of them 06:00 SegFault22 ONLY menche's 06:00 GTRsdk Why are you doing that? 06:00 SegFault22 he banned me for trying to take down an evil griefing invasive dictator 06:00 GTRsdk and how are you doing that? 06:00 SegFault22 that's classified. 06:01 SegFault22 GriefNET won't let me tell you any more. Have a nice day. 06:01 crimsonmane so you're throwing a tantrum because someone doesn't wanna play with you... 06:01 crimsonmane anyway, how does one save their progress in minetest? 06:01 VanessaE you just close the game 06:01 GTRsdk crimsonmane: single player or multi player? 06:01 VanessaE it's automatic 06:01 crimsonmane single player 06:02 GTRsdk then it would be just automatic and you can safely close it 06:02 crimsonmane ok. thank you 06:02 crimsonmane do i "reload" by logging in with same username? or will any username bring up the previous stuff? 06:03 VanessaE in single player mode the username doesn't matter as far as I know - you're just "singleplayer". 06:03 VanessaE on a server, it matters - must be exactly the same, capitals and lower case matter too 06:04 crimsonmane alright. thanks again. 06:05 GTRsdk Is it possible to customize what people start out with in multiplayer minetest? 06:05 Tekk_ GTRsdk: yeah, check your mods/default 06:06 VanessaE isn't that what the give_initial_stuff thing is for? 06:07 Tekk_ I think so 06:11 VanessaE gah who knew this would be such a pain 06:12 VanessaE I want to replace the 'green thing' (player) image with something that fits in with my photorealistic texture pack, but I can't find anything that's even remotely suitable as a basis 06:15 leo_rockway a Chilean miner 06:15 VanessaE something generic - could fit a man or woman 06:15 VanessaE I'd even go for a furry if I could find a suitable image 06:15 leo_rockway a Chilean miner o.o 06:16 GTRsdk Super Tux? 06:16 GTRsdk with the construction hat 06:16 GTRsdk would that fit? 06:16 VanessaE heh 06:17 leo_rockway neat 06:18 VanessaE no, don't think so 06:18 VanessaE needs to be something out of the real world 06:18 Tekk_ yet you'd go for a furry? :P 06:18 VanessaE (e.g. not cartoonish) 06:18 Tekk_ eh, guess fursuit maybe 06:22 VanessaE would be too narcissistic to just use a photo of myself (heavily altered)? :-) 06:22 Tekk_ nope 06:22 Tekk_ if you can't find anything else suitable there's no problem with that 06:23 GTRsdk What about a droid like C3PO? (might be legal issues using the photo, but an idea) 06:35 VanessaE *sigh* why do people feel the need to constantly make trouble? :-/ 06:36 darkrose >.> 06:36 Tekk_ exploring what's possible is natural human behaviour, in this care just perverted to being annoying 06:36 VanessaE oh ho ho and troublemaker deluxe shows up just in time :D 06:36 VanessaE hey darkrose. :-) 06:36 darkrose :p 06:36 darkrose hi 06:40 VanessaE actually ^^ that was the troublemaker. 07:59 VanessaE bbl 08:59 * Calinou wonders how can he hide joins/parts/quits in xchat 11:19 DJCal Are there certain ports that need forwarding when connecting a to a server? I've looked around the wiki and can't find anything about not being able to resolve when connecting. Anyone have any ideas? 11:58 NekoGloop Hi people of #minetest 11:58 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 12:03 NekoGloop Meow~? 12:07 * NekoGloop wonders why noone is here.... 12:11 NekoGloop Everyone playing minetest? I'll go do that too :3 12:13 PilzAdam Hi NekoGloop 12:13 NekoGloop Meow~! 12:13 NekoGloop :3 12:13 NekoGloop Hi. 12:14 PilzAdam Are you new? 12:15 NekoGloop I'm new-ish. 12:15 NekoGloop Meaning i joined yesterday. 12:15 PilzAdam When did you start playing Minetest? 12:16 NekoGloop Yesterday. 12:16 NekoGloop :3 12:16 PilzAdam What do you think about this game? 12:17 NekoGloop It's good. Lags a bit too much for my liking but meh. Good core game, made thousands times better by the twenty or so mods i have installed. 12:18 PilzAdam mods are awesome! 12:18 NekoGloop Yes they are! 12:18 PilzAdam I made some by myself 12:19 PilzAdam its pretty easy to make simple mods 12:19 NekoGloop My only gripe: The mobs mod for 0.4.2 kinda overheats my computer. 12:20 PilzAdam thats only a expiremental mod from celeron 12:20 NekoGloop I know. :3 12:21 PilzAdam there were mobs in 0.3 but in the deveolepment of 0.4 they get lost 12:21 PilzAdam .( 12:21 NekoGloop There were rats, right? 12:22 PilzAdam Yes rats, oerkis (ghosts) and dungeon masters 12:22 NekoGloop No, in 0.3 :3 12:22 PilzAdam ? 12:23 NekoGloop There were the ghosts in 0.3? 12:23 PilzAdam yes 12:23 PilzAdam they were no "real" ghosts but looked like that 12:24 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 12:24 PilzAdam wich mods do you use? 12:25 NekoGloop Too many. :3 (means let me check) 12:29 NekoGloop Had to go on my actual computer, was on my iPad. :3 12:30 PilzAdam so what ybout your mods? 12:30 PilzAdam *about 12:32 NekoGloop animatedtorches, beds, coalmod, coloredwood, doorsplus, flowers, infinitytools, junglegrass, locked_sign, mesecons, money, moreblocks, moreores, sethome, stairsplus, throwing (bows), unifieddyes, vessels 12:32 * VanessaE sees a few of hers in there (through bleary eyes) 12:33 NekoGloop Yes you do :3 12:33 PilzAdam wich bed mod? (there are some different out there) 12:33 NekoGloop Gimme a sec. 12:33 VanessaE (no homedecor? :( ) 12:33 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2625 This one. Thanks for making me look it up, they updated :3 12:33 PilzAdam Thats the right mod! 12:34 NekoGloop Sorry, dont have homedecor... YET. 12:34 VanessaE get it. it's "epic" :-) 12:35 NekoGloop Hmmm... VanessaE, could you make it so cotton can be crafted into wool? Will make it accessible. 12:35 VanessaE use the cotton mod instead :-) 12:35 PilzAdam i have "AdBlockPlus" for my firefox but still see your message... strange! 12:35 NekoGloop Like, for example, 9 cotton on the grid = 1 wool or something. 12:35 VanessaE besides, wool is built into the game 12:35 PilzAdam i mean your message VanessaE 12:35 NekoGloop I know. But I dont like using /give or /giveme. They feel too much like cheating. 12:36 VanessaE my message? 12:36 NekoGloop Ugh, I have "Who killed U.N. Owen" stuck in my head. Wait... why am I complainging? :3 12:36 PilzAdam "get it. it's "epic" :-)" 12:37 VanessaE shameless plug ;-) 12:37 NekoGloop What VanessaE? 12:38 PilzAdam shes advertising her own mods 12:38 PilzAdam [ironic] I would never do something like that! 12:38 NekoGloop Oh lol. I dont mind. :3 12:38 VanessaE haha 12:38 NekoGloop What's funny is I'm looking at the post she said "shameless plug" in :3 12:39 NekoGloop Wow. Homedecor depends only on mods I already have. :3 12:39 PilzAdam i dont like mods that depending on other mods 12:39 PilzAdam unless there are in a modpack 12:40 NekoGloop :3 At least they are all made by the same person (excluding mesecons but everyone has that) :3 12:40 VanessaE well think of the ones being depended on as "base" mods, things everyone should probably have anyway 12:41 PilzAdam my global mod folder is empty. I only use worldmods because i have worlds with different themes: survival, dev... etc. 12:42 PilzAdam so i always have to download all dependencies 12:42 VanessaE global because I'm always stress-testing the game 12:42 PilzAdam :) 12:44 PilzAdam because of im using the mods like this i wrote this topic in the forum: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2626 12:44 NekoGloop :3 I use all my mods global. 12:45 VanessaE I can agree with your sentiment there, but the problem is everyone's usage of minetest is a little different 12:45 PilzAdam i know 12:45 VanessaE now, 12:45 NekoGloop Dont you just hate it when minetest cant read a mod and doesnt just start up not using that mod? 12:45 PilzAdam but we should support everyones use 12:45 VanessaE c55 has stated that he will be adding "a bunch more content" to the default game 12:46 VanessaE what all that will consist of, I'm not sure, except that he's focused on survival 12:46 NekoGloop Oooh, maybe some of the best mods will get integrated. 12:47 VanessaE it would be nice 12:47 NekoGloop I have enough mods that the atlas actually tells me it refuses to load them all lol 12:47 VanessaE the simpler mods are best to include. of mine, vessels, flowers, animatedtorches are pretty lightweight 12:47 NekoGloop The testure atlas. 12:48 NekoGloop texture* 12:48 PilzAdam when c55 brings the default game to a survival game it is more important than yet to publich different games 12:48 PilzAdam *publish 12:48 VanessaE PilzAdam: agreed. 12:48 VanessaE I don't want a true "survival" game 12:49 NekoGloop I do :3 12:49 PilzAdam a "Game releases" section in the forum would be great. 12:49 VanessaE someone hopefully will package up the existing minetest_game and make it available as a standard "classic" modpack or so 12:49 NekoGloop I already backed it up. :3 12:50 NekoGloop Someone SOOO needs to make weaker-than-wood dirt tools :3 12:51 VanessaE no. just no. :-) 12:51 NekoGloop Yes. Just yes. :3 12:52 PilzAdam i like the game as it is now 12:52 NekoGloop My only problem with the coalmod: I cant make coal ingots because I get carbon black instead, the dye. :3 12:52 VanessaE what's coalmod supposed to do? 12:53 PilzAdam i think it adds coal tools 12:53 VanessaE oh, coal tools. 12:53 VanessaE meh 12:53 PilzAdam i dont like it 12:53 NekoGloop coal tools and a placeable coal block. 12:53 VanessaE we have enough tools already 12:53 PilzAdam yes 12:53 NekoGloop coal tools = iron tools though :3 12:54 PilzAdam i dont see any need in more tools 12:54 NekoGloop Since we also have moreores, yes. 12:54 NekoGloop :3 12:55 PilzAdam i mean in the default game 12:55 NekoGloop :3 12:55 VanessaE looking at the init.lua for coal mod, 12:55 VanessaE it shouldn't conflict with unifieddyes 12:55 NekoGloop Hm? How does one make the tools for it then? 12:55 VanessaE put lumps of coal into the crafting grid, like: 12:55 VanessaE C C C 12:55 VanessaE - S - 12:56 VanessaE - S - 12:56 VanessaE coal pick axe. 12:56 VanessaE S = stick, C = coal 12:56 NekoGloop Whatever. I already deleted it. :3 12:56 PilzAdam what we should add are more thinks that make the world "living" 12:56 VanessaE these recipes look like the standard crafts for various tools 12:56 NekoGloop Flowers. Oh wait, those are there. :3 12:57 NekoGloop Grow like weeds too :3 12:57 VanessaE PilzAdam: flowers, junglegrass, bushes :-) 12:57 NekoGloop Oh yes, junglegrass. But what bushes? 12:57 PilzAdam the importants thing is: mobs 12:58 PilzAdam pigs, sheeps, birds... 12:58 NekoGloop Yet those are a lot harder than nodes. :3 12:58 PilzAdam i know 12:59 Calinou redcrab, which mod provides the /spawn command on your server? 12:59 PilzAdam i made the cart mod -> i know how dificult it is to make working objects 12:59 VanessaE greetz, Calinou. 12:59 VanessaE NekoGloop: bushes gives strawberry plants 12:59 VanessaE from which pies can be manufactured 13:00 NekoGloop Oh, a part of the nature mod that I have no inclination to install. :3 13:00 VanessaE I think they can be eaten to restore hp, no? 13:01 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 13:02 * NekoGloop wanna be petted :3 13:05 NekoGloop Cool. The crafting guide made minetest crash. :3 13:06 * NekoGloop pokes Tekk_ who is here but not doing anything 13:11 redcrab Calinou : /spawn was a part of copy paste of a skyblock stuff (mod? can't remind ) designed by sfan5 13:11 redcrab minetest.register_on_chat_message(function(name, message, playername, player) 13:11 redcrab local cmd = "/spawn" 13:11 redcrab if message:sub(0, #cmd) == cmd then 13:11 redcrab if message == '/spawn' then 13:11 redcrab local player = minetest.env:get_player_by_name(name) 13:11 redcrab minetest.chat_send_player(player:get_player_name(), "Teleporting to spawn...") 13:11 redcrab player:setpos(skyblockstart.startpos) 13:11 redcrab return true 13:12 NekoGloop Ohai person of red crabby-ness. :3 13:12 VanessaE hey redcrab 13:13 sfan5 hi redcrab 13:15 NekoGloop Is there anyone on the Zenoheld the Backstab server or am I alone? 13:16 NekoGloop minetest.freedns.in 30000 NOT MY SERVER. :3 13:16 NekoGloop port 30000. :3 13:17 NekoGloop How does one make a sign? 13:17 VanessaE W W W 13:17 VanessaE W W W 13:17 VanessaE - S - 13:17 VanessaE W = Wood, S = Stick 13:17 NekoGloop Thankies :3 13:19 NekoGloop Hello PilzAdam. :3 13:19 NekoGloop Again. :3 13:20 PilzAdam internet fail 13:20 * VanessaE resets PilzAdam's ping timer 13:20 VanessaE you forgot to wind it again ;-) 13:20 NekoGloop :3 13:21 NekoGloop Someone come to this server? minetest.freedns.in, port 30000, lots of mods. :3 0.4.2-rc2 server. 13:21 NekoGloop 0.4.2-rc1, I mean. 13:22 sfan5 :/ 13:22 sfan5 the capchta on http://minetest.ru/nyansearch/ is not solveable 13:23 VanessaE found at: -1595 -1558 -509, rainbow length: 15 13:23 VanessaE found at: -1589 -1549 -868, rainbow length: 10 13:23 VanessaE found at: -1590 -1435 1093, rainbow length: 3 13:23 VanessaE [...] 13:23 VanessaE (didn't enter a seed) 13:23 sfan5 lol 13:23 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 Someone come to the server? 13:23 sfan5 maybe 13:23 thexyz sfan5: you are a bot, stop it! 13:23 VanessaE besides, that doesn't work for recent minetest mapgen versions :-) 13:24 VanessaE greetz, xyz. 13:24 sfan5 hi xyz 13:25 NekoGloop no, abc. :3 13:26 NekoGloop on this server, drowning isnt in effect. Underwater house, here I come. :3 13:27 sfan5 did i solve the captcha right? http://i.imgur.com/UIyTV.png 13:27 thexyz seems so 13:27 VanessaE looks like it to me 13:27 sfan5 "Wrong captcha!" 13:28 VanessaE javascript/adblock in your way? 13:28 thexyz try refreshing page 13:28 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 13:28 thexyz don't use "back" browser button 13:28 * NekoGloop wanna be petted :3 13:28 thexyz because it doesn't update captcha 13:28 thexyz but server updates it 13:29 sfan5 still doesn't work 13:30 sfan5 wtf?! 13:30 sfan5 it works in firefox but not in chrome 13:31 NekoGloop Use IE. Problem solved. :3 13:32 VanessaE byte your tongue 13:32 NekoGloop No. :3 13:32 sfan5 NekoGloop: give me IE for linux 13:32 sfan5 holy... it found 3999 nyan cats 13:32 NekoGloop Get a windows emulation thingy. :3 13:32 VanessaE windows *barf* 13:33 sfan5 NekoGloop: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG 13:33 thexyz sfan5: but it doesn't work for latest version 13:33 sfan5 thats sad 13:33 thexyz i maybe will update it 13:33 thexyz some day 13:33 sfan5 why don't you update it right now? 13:33 thexyz because who needs that? 13:33 sfan5 umm.. 13:34 thexyz and, anyway, i have some other projects 13:34 thexyz even minetest-related projects 13:36 NekoGloop Any good multiplayer servers that are active atm? 13:38 thexyz NekoGloop: http://servers.minetest.ru/ 13:38 thexyz strange, 4 servers are down 13:41 NekoGloop Maybe they got thirsty and went to go get a drink of water. :3 13:43 VanessaE bbl 13:46 Fixer redcrab is up hmm 13:47 Fixer sfan5: IE4linux 13:48 sfan5 i don't really want ie for linux lol 13:48 Fixer ok 13:48 Fixer IE crap is no longer a standard 13:53 NekoGloop Any 0.4.2-rc1 servers out there that are both up and active? 13:54 sfan5 idk 13:55 NekoGloop Well then I'm on this one: Globis server 176.31.175.144:30000. Come to it and choose the Deep Sea teleport. I'm there trying to mine, could use some help I gues.. 13:55 NekoGloop guess.* 13:59 NekoGloop Oh, my pickaxe just broke. No more mining. Now to make some kind of house. 14:13 * NekoGloop pokes those who are now here :3 14:18 * NekoGloop pokes VanesaaE out of boredom :3 14:27 NekoGloop I've lost my house. Great. 14:29 NekoGloop Hello leo_rockway and wb to #minetest 14:33 Calinou how can I use worldedit to copy stuff to the NEGATIVE X axis? 14:33 Calinou it can only copy to positive x 14:34 Calinou tried //copy x 9, //copy -x -9, //copy -x 9 and //copy x -9 14:34 Calinou none of these work 14:39 bas080 Finally have the on generate plant spawning funcion is done. I'm going on vacation tommorrow so I won't be working on it for a week. But for the modders out there. You could check out my generate function in the plants and crops mod aka harvest. When i'm back i'll do the rest so it's also a fun mod for the minetesters 14:40 bas080 VanessaE, could be something nice for the flowers mod. Does not respawn digged plants. So you could theoretically dig all the plants till there is none. 14:42 NekoGloop But that would be impossible, considering the size of the world. Therefore, such code would be redundant. 14:42 PilzAdam everyone: what do you think about this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=35549#p35549 14:43 bas080 PilzAdam, am checking! 14:43 NekoGloop Might check later. 14:43 NekoGloop How does one go DOWN a ladder? 14:44 PilzAdam "e" 14:44 NekoGloop Ah, ok. 14:45 NekoGloop This silver vein is huge! 14:46 bas080 NekoGloop. One presses the E button 14:46 NekoGloop :3 14:47 bas080 PilzAdam, No adnimation but they are 3d and move! The legs do glitch.. maybe because of my laggy computer. 14:47 NekoGloop Trying now at the mention of 3d. :3 14:47 PilzAdam no they lag on my intel i7 to 14:47 bas080 hehe 14:48 bas080 Maybe make a smaller animal which consists out of one node.. 14:48 bas080 A chicken or duck maybe? 14:49 PilzAdam ive fixed the lag a bit 14:50 NekoGloop My god. The LAAAAAG of having 1000 of those out at once. :3 14:51 bas080 PilzAdam, Thnx for the advice on the plants mod. 14:54 NekoGloop what does the 'fast' priv do? 14:56 PilzAdam NekoGloop: if you press "J" and then hold "E" while walking the player moves fast 14:57 PilzAdam if you press "J" there is a message "Fast move enabled" 14:57 NekoGloop I know. :3 14:57 PilzAdam you need the fast priv for that 14:58 NekoGloop I know :3 14:59 PilzAdam why are you asking? 14:59 NekoGloop Because I didnt know the FIRST part of what you said. :3 15:00 PilzAdam k 15:00 PilzAdam ive updated the version of my mob conception in the forum 15:01 PilzAdam there is know leg lag anymore 15:01 NekoGloop :3 15:06 NekoGloop How does one edit a .lua file? 15:07 bas080 I have decapitated sheep 15:07 thexyz NekoGloop: vim init.lua 15:07 bas080 The head just fly's of into the dark cave :P 15:07 bas080 nano? 15:07 NekoGloop Uhh... what program? 15:07 bas080 gedit, notepad++ notepad 15:08 NekoGloop Oh ok. :3 15:09 NekoGloop "urgh"? 15:09 PilzAdam bas080: "The head just fly's of into the dark cave :P" are you talking about my mob? 15:09 bas080 Yes. i'm calling them sheep 15:10 PilzAdam what do you mean with flying away 15:10 MilanFIN wtf 0.4.1 out??????? 15:11 PilzAdam ?? 15:11 bas080 Literally the head node proceeds. The body stays stuck after a node. And in the case of my world there was a cave where the head continued progressing into it. It was lol. 15:11 MilanFIN I think I have lived under a rock :D 15:11 PilzAdam 0.4.2 rc1 is out! 15:12 bas080 MilanFIN. Be prepared to be spoiled! :P 15:14 PilzAdam bas080: fixed that 15:14 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 15:19 * NekoGloop pokes PilzAdam :3 15:19 sfan5 18<bas080> gedit, notepad++ notepad 15:19 sfan5 notepad is shit 15:19 PilzAdam NekoGloop: Whats wrong with you? 15:20 NekoGloop I'm a neko :3 15:24 bas080 hehe, just so NekoGloop knows that we ae reffering to a texteditor. 15:24 bas080 notepad++ is ok 15:24 sfan5 yes 15:24 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 15:24 sfan5 geany is even better 15:24 bas080 I preffer gedit 15:24 thexyz vim 15:24 PilzAdam kate 15:24 bas080 and nano for in the terminal 15:25 thexyz no exceptions 15:25 sfan5 i prefer nano for command line @thexyz 15:25 NekoGloop What are the "groups"? 15:25 NekoGloop In minetest mod blocks things. 15:25 thexyz sfan5: vim is more powerful 15:25 thexyz can nano into undo? redo? 15:25 sfan5 no 15:25 thexyz or even "copy block of code" 15:25 bas080 NekoGloop, i advice you to look stuff like that up in the api documentation https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt 15:26 thexyz that's bad 15:26 sfan5 but its easier to use e.g. visudo with nano 15:26 NekoGloop Thanks, didnt know that was there :3 15:26 PilzAdam if you use KDE kate is the best you can use 15:26 thexyz maybe it is 15:26 thexyz vim is easy too 15:26 Calinou protip: xfce 15:26 Calinou vim is meh 15:26 Calinou nano is meh too 15:26 thexyz if you don't need to do extraordinary things 15:26 Calinou GUI editors are far better because they don't whine when you use mouse 15:27 NekoGloop Uh... I cant view it... Help? "For security reasons, framing is not allowed" 15:27 thexyz Calinou: you can use mouse with vim 15:27 thexyz also, show me gui editor that can do something like :split/:vsplit 15:27 sfan5 NekoGloop: https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/doc/lua_api.txt 15:27 sfan5 thexyz: what does that "script" do? 15:28 PilzAdam Calinou: your protip is for noobs, right? 15:28 thexyz sfan5: what script? 15:28 sfan5 :split/:vsplit 15:28 thexyz let me show you.. 15:28 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 15:29 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/30sB8.png 15:29 thexyz something like this 15:30 bas080 NekoGloop, kind of syays it already. It's a way of reffering to a group of nodes. 15:30 bas080 For example all burnable nodes are part of the burn group. 15:31 NekoGloop I might fool around with making flint, as Tekk_ suggested yesterday. 15:31 NekoGloop If I can do it, maybe also make it start fires... But no. :3 15:33 bas080 NekoGloop, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1683 15:34 bas080 never forget to check if someone else hasn't done what you think of doing. It's always easier and effecient to use the work of others and build and improve on it. 15:35 NekoGloop :3 but I was thinking of more along the lines of flint being another material e.g. iron 15:36 bas080 cool, and is it dug out of gravel? ;) 15:37 NekoGloop Well, that's too minecraft-y. :3 15:37 NekoGloop Was thinking of actually making new veins, building upon the moreores mod. 15:40 thexyz anybody care to test new minetest mapper? 15:40 NekoGloop You lost me at "care". :3 15:42 thexyz all that you need to do is just to connect to minetest.ru:50000 15:44 NekoGloop Is that server down xD 15:44 thexyz no it isn't 15:45 NekoGloop nvm, my comp is just being retarded as usual. 15:48 thexyz see map here http://minetest.ru/map/ 15:48 PilzAdam bas080: you called my mob sheep so add sheep textures: http://www.file-upload.net/download-4627218/mob_test.zip.html 15:48 PilzAdam *i added 15:49 * NekoGloop pokes xyz 15:49 thexyz i'm here 15:49 NekoGloop Well get over to minetest :3 15:50 bas080 PilzAdam, :-) 15:50 Tekk_ morning 15:51 * NekoGloop pokes Tekk_ :s 15:51 NekoGloop :3* 15:51 * Tekk_ pokes back =3 15:52 bas080 Web interface?! FOr map awesome! 15:52 Calinou all that you need to do is just to connect to minetest.ru:50000 15:52 Calinou will do 15:54 thexyz bas080: it also displays ingame chat and players 16:08 * NekoGloop pokes thexyz as I fly around the void :3 16:08 thexyz it crashed =( 16:09 NekoGloop :3 16:10 Tekk_` hey, minetest doesn't have the void 16:10 Tekk_` (as far as I know) 16:11 NekoGloop When a server shuts down and you keep flying around it does. :3 16:48 * NekoGloop pokes whoever isnt chatting :3 17:20 NekoGloop Hello? Anyone still her? xD 17:20 NekoGloop here* 17:21 sfan5 yes 17:33 * Calinou is about to release a HUGE misa pack update 17:33 * Calinou pokes sfan5 because he added worldedit support 17:33 * Calinou pokes the absent tonyka because he added partial 3dforniture support 17:33 Calinou less crappy textures finally :D 17:35 sfan5 Calinou: i added worldedit support to what? 17:42 NekoGloop How does one make slabs in a mod? 17:44 khonkhortisan slabs are already made in the stairs mod. When you minetest.register_node add in paramtype='light', drawtype = 'nodebox', node_box = {6 ints per box}, 17:45 NekoGloop I did not understand any of that. Was hoping to make slabs and stairs in my mod. :P 17:45 khonkhortisan have you registered a node yet? 17:45 NekoGloop No. :3 17:46 NekoGloop PilzAdam, could you help me with my mod? :3 17:46 PilzAdam wich mod? 17:46 NekoGloop Unreleased. :P 17:46 khonkhortisan what's the mod name? 17:46 NekoGloop Because there is no mod yet. 17:47 khonkhortisan I mean, what folder is the init.lua in? 17:47 NekoGloop I want to make one but have no clue how to start. Folder name = "gloopblocks" 17:47 PilzAdam i cant help you without any idea what you want to do 17:48 NekoGloop Make some blocks. :P having trouble with slabs/stairs 17:48 PilzAdam is there any code yet? 17:48 NekoGloop Not that works. 17:49 PilzAdam did you read this https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt ? 17:49 NekoGloop Yesh. actually still have it open from the LAST time it was linked. :P 17:50 PilzAdam k 17:50 PilzAdam did you read the init.lua of the default mod? 17:50 khonkhortisan try this: wood = minetest.registered_items['wood'] (press enter) minetest.register_node('gloopblocks:stair', {description = 'Stairs!', tiles = {'default_wood.png'}, drawtype = 'nodebox', paramtype = 'light', paramtype2 = 'facedir', groups = wood.groups, node_box = { type = 'fixed', fixed = {-0.5, -0.5, -0.5, 0.5, 0, 0.5}, }, }) 17:50 khonkhortisan that's about the minimum you need for a slab 17:52 NekoGloop 'gloopblocks.stair' "that's about the minimum you need for a slab" Dafuq? 17:52 khonkhortisan no gloopblocks:stair 17:52 khonkhortisan it has to be a colon 17:53 NekoGloop I know. But it's gloopblocks:stair and you said "slab" 17:53 khonkhortisan the first part is your mod name which has to be the same as the folder name, the second part is the name of the node 17:53 khonkhortisan oops 17:53 * NekoGloop mistyped 17:53 khonkhortisan I messed up the description too, but the nodebox is a slab 17:53 khonkhortisan it's my fault for looking at stair code while writing that 17:55 PilzAdam why dont you use "function stairs.register_slab(subname, recipeitem, groups, images, description)", NekoGloop 17:56 NekoGloop Do what with what now? 17:56 khonkhortisan it would make the slab be prefixed with stairs: 17:57 khonkhortisan look at the init.lua in the stairs mod 17:58 PilzAdam could you please tell me what you want to do 17:59 NekoGloop Hold on, lemme test that thing. 17:59 PilzAdam when i know what block you want to add it easier for me to help you 18:00 NekoGloop I want dirt stairs. For a earthen house. :3 18:01 NekoGloop The "description" is the name that appears when you mouse over the item in the inventory, correct? 18:01 khonkhortisan yes 18:01 NekoGloop Thankies :3 18:02 Calinou stairsplus update get! 18:02 Calinou moreblocks update get! 18:02 Calinou misa pack update get! 18:02 khonkhortisan what's misa pack? 18:02 NekoGloop How do I link to the dirt graphic? 18:02 Calinou PilzAdam, see my Stairs+ mod 18:03 Calinou if you want to PROPERLY add stairs/slabs & stuff 18:03 Calinou NekoGloop, set default_dirt.png as texture 18:03 khonkhortisan tiles = {'default_dirt.png'}, 18:03 NekoGloop I'm the one trying to add stairs and slabs and stuff :3 18:04 PilzAdam NekoGloop: in the default stair mod there is a function that you can add stairs of different materials: stairs.register_stair_and_slab("dirt", "default:dirt", {crumbly=3}, {"default_dirt.png"}, "Dirt stair", "Dirt slab") 18:05 NekoGloop And I just use stairsplus.register_stair_and_slab with the same parameters. :3 18:06 NekoGloop Well, stairsplus.register_stair_and_slab_and_panel. With another thing. :3 18:12 NekoGloop What "groups" is gravel in? 18:15 PilzAdam you can see it in init.lua from the default mod 18:16 khonkhortisan or you can steal the gravel groups: gravel = minetest.registered_items['default:gravel'] then groups = gravel.groups 18:20 NekoGloop why is there no "register_doors" in doorsplus? :3 18:20 khonkhortisan because. 18:20 NekoGloop And doorsplus and xdoors need to be combined SOOOO badly. 18:20 Calinou xdoors look like shit and are glitchy 18:20 Calinou so no 18:21 Calinou (their nodebox goes outside the actual block) 18:21 NekoGloop Too bad, i like them. 18:21 thexyz wat? 18:21 thexyz glitchy? 18:21 Calinou if they had a different texture and used TWO actual blocks, yes maybe 18:21 thexyz nodebox? 18:21 Calinou thexyz, your nodebox goes outside the block 18:21 thexyz screenshot, please 18:21 NekoGloop Well then when you splice the code, fix the nodebox. 18:21 thexyz oh 18:21 Calinou thexyz, this makes it impossible to mine the top space of the door in most conditions 18:21 thexyz i understood what you mean 18:21 Calinou and also: specific texture pl0x 18:22 NekoGloop Is that a problem, Alinou? 18:22 NekoGloop Calinou* 18:22 Calinou also: you can make double doors with xdoors 18:22 Calinou just place them in some special way 18:22 thexyz what do you mean by "mine the top space of the door" 18:22 Calinou also: we need someone to make xtrapdoors. :D 18:22 Calinou thexyz, the upper space of the door 18:22 Calinou the door is 2 blocks high 18:22 thexyz yes 18:22 NekoGloop I dont even have trap doors yet :D 18:22 Calinou try to stand "inside" the door then mine the top space. you can't, sometimes 18:22 NekoGloop Calinou, easy fix: Dont try to. 18:23 Calinou not a fix; it's a workaround 18:23 thexyz inside the door? 18:23 Calinou it's like if you told me "lava sometimes doesn't cause damage" > "easy fix: don't jump into lava" 18:23 Calinou :3 18:23 Calinou thexyz, DIAGRAM TIME! 18:24 thexyz just make screencast for me ^^ 18:24 NekoGloop But glitches like that you have to try to do :P 18:24 thexyz or film a video 18:24 NekoGloop lava not causing damage needs to be fixed. 18:24 NekoGloop a door not mining when you are standing in it doesnt. 18:24 Calinou http://ompldr.org/vZXltNg/door.png 18:25 Calinou lolvideo 18:25 Calinou black "grid": actual block space 18:25 Calinou brown: the door (top view) 18:25 NekoGloop P.S. Calinou, you incorporated stairsplus into moreblocks? SWEEEEEEET~ 18:25 Calinou if you stand INSIDE the block space, you cannot hit the top space of the door 18:25 Calinou NekoGloop, nopez 18:25 Calinou you can use them independantly 18:25 Calinou you can install them both of course 18:25 Calinou however, moreblocks stairs/slabs/panels have stairsplus's features, as in: 18:25 Calinou - sounds 18:25 NekoGloop I know... I mean that you used the code... 18:26 Calinou - fixed tooltips 18:26 Calinou and more 18:26 * Calinou should add cactusbrick/cactuschecker/ironchecker/coalchecker/coalstone/ironstone stairs/slabs/panels. :3 18:26 * NekoGloop just also realized you mad both of the mods :P 18:26 NekoGloop made* 18:27 NekoGloop I need to install morefences brb 18:35 NekoGloop There isnt a morefences, is there? 18:36 khonkhortisan I could've guessed clouds were at +100y 18:39 khonkhortisan is there a way to get information about the clouds' locations? 18:41 NekoGloop Sooooo... Corel WordPerfect X4 doesnt like to save unknown file extensions like .lua. 18:41 khonkhortisan what, it does filename.lua.txt? 18:42 NekoGloop No, doesnt even let me put the .lua 18:42 NekoGloop Can rename it afterward though. 18:42 NekoGloop ... or not... "file init.lua unable to be read" 18:48 thexyz Calinou, no, i can 18:49 NekoGloop lol he's gon xyz 18:49 NekoGloop gone* 18:49 thexyz that's bad 18:50 NekoGloop He's OFF. :3 18:52 khonkhortisan warning: testing a rain mod causes flooding 18:53 NekoGloop :3 18:53 NekoGloop Swin little khonkhorisan, SWIM~! 18:58 NekoGloop ttk2, welcome to #miecraft, enjoy your stay. :3 18:59 khonkhortisan I want rain to leave a full cube of evaporating water. If I use water_source it doesn't evaporate, if I use water_flowing it just barely appears on the ground 18:59 ttk2 meinkraft thank you very much :P 18:59 NekoGloop Ooops, wrong thing. 18:59 NekoGloop Whatever. 18:59 NekoGloop At least you know I'm human and not a welcomebot. :D 19:00 khonkhortisan so you say 19:00 NekoGloop Derp. 19:02 khonkhortisan oops I can't get the position of an object after I remove it 19:13 NekoGloop wowiamdiamonds: Love the gems mod :3 19:13 wowiamdiamonds :D do you think it's balanced correctly? should it be more powerful? 19:14 * NekoGloop hasnt gotten enough yet to make tools :P 19:15 khonkhortisan there aren't any plantlike lua entities? 19:18 NekoGloop I like the idea of the 3x3/4x4/5x5 workbenches. 19:20 Tekk_ NekoGloop: 3x3 is the inventory size 19:20 Tekk_ so no need for those 19:20 NekoGloop I know. There's a mod already in place for those sizes though. :3 19:21 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2000 19:21 NekoGloop That's the workbench thing. 19:26 Matsetes Hi! 19:27 Matsetes Where I can find Clay Ball in the game? 19:27 NekoGloop Clay blocks. Dont ask me what they look like, I dont know myself. 19:28 wowiamdiamonds I think clay blocks spawn in deserts 19:28 wowiamdiamonds underwater 19:28 thexyz they spawn near water 19:28 NekoGloop "deserts" "underwater" o rly? 19:28 khonkhortisan does anyone have an example of the correct use of minetest.after(time, func, param)? 19:29 wowiamdiamonds not sure about the deserts part, but that's he only place i've seen them 19:29 khonkhortisan it seems to be run instantly instead of the time I say 19:30 khonkhortisan haha I broke minetest 19:30 NekoGloop You need to ask the almighty gods of gaming to grant you the power to comprehend the minetest.after function. 19:31 khonkhortisan ServerError: LuaError: error: minetest/bin/../builtin/misc.lua:17: attempt to call field 'func' (a nil value) 19:32 NekoGloop What does "is_ground_content" do? 19:32 Matsetes Clay bloks are not the gravel... Right? 19:32 NekoGloop No matsetes 19:32 khonkhortisan correct, they're gray 19:32 NekoGloop Oh. 19:32 * NekoGloop is wrong :l 19:32 NekoGloop But who knows what "is_ground_content" does? 19:33 Tekk_ NekoGloop: not used yet 19:33 Matsetes So gravel are clay bloks? 19:33 NekoGloop So just dont set it? 19:33 Tekk_ Matsetes: no 19:33 Tekk_ gravel != clay 19:33 Matsetes Sorry... 19:33 Matsetes Ok 19:34 khonkhortisan 4 sand = 1 sand 19:34 khonkhortisan don't believe me? just make some sandstone 19:35 NekoGloop Place it and break it, we know. 19:36 Matsetes The clay bloks are under the terrain? 19:36 Tekk_ they tend to be on the surface of the ground underwater 19:39 wowiamdiamonds looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/XVRiP.png 19:39 NekoGloop OH, THOSE BLOCKS xD 19:40 Matsetes I found them!! Thx!! 19:40 wowiamdiamonds yay :D 19:42 khonkhortisan cool my rain makes a puddle. minetest.after doesn't work so well if the function is defined outside of it 19:44 Tekk_ khonkhortisan: I think it's meant to use a lambda 19:44 NekoGloop No, use a lamb. 19:44 NekoGloop :D 19:45 khonkhortisan we only have sheep 19:45 Tekk_ after(time, function(foo, bar) minetest.whatever(foo) end, lastparam) 19:45 khonkhortisan yeah it only worked after I did it that way 19:45 khonkhortisan now I have to make the rain turn into water_source when it hits the ground, not after a time limit 19:46 Tekk_ khonkhortisan: the time should just be 0 in that case 19:46 Tekk_ I think 19:46 Matsetes And where can I find apples or rats? 19:46 Tekk_ I haven't seen either in stable, sadly 19:47 khonkhortisan the rain turns into water_source, then I use minetest.after to remove the source after it's flowed a little 19:47 Tekk_ ah 19:47 khonkhortisan no rats, no fireball-throwing monsters, no forests anymore 19:47 Tekk_ so set the rain collision after to 0 and spawn the water source. then set an after on the source to remove it 19:48 NekoGloop Apples are in trees semi-randomly. 19:50 khonkhortisan how do I know when my entity has hit the ground? 19:51 khonkhortisan just when it stops moving? 19:51 NekoGloop Magic. 19:51 Tekk_ khonkhortisan: from what I can tell. there's no on_collide callback :/ 19:53 NekoGloop alright, time to attempt to make this code RUN! 19:57 NekoGloop ... Derp. How do I make it work? 19:57 khonkhortisan put it in .minetest/mods/minetest/modname 19:58 khonkhortisan or minetest/mods 19:58 NekoGloop I did that. 19:58 NekoGloop :3 19:58 khonkhortisan did you get an error? 19:58 NekoGloop But it tells me it failed to load my init.lua file. 19:58 khonkhortisan and what does it say in the terminal? 19:59 NekoGloop That is failed to load my init.lua. 19:59 NekoGloop it* 19:59 khonkhortisan do you have a line number? a nil value? 19:59 Tekk_ NekoGloop: above that it'll give you a real error 20:01 NekoGloop Looking at the giant heap of test that is my debug.txt 20:01 NekoGloop text* 20:01 NekoGloop 15:52:13: VERBOSE[main]: error_message = ModError: Failed to load and run C:\Documents and Settings\Tommy\My Documents\Minecraft Mods and stuff\Minetest\minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32\minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\gloopblocks\init.lua 20:02 Tekk_ weird 20:02 Tekk_ can you dpaste the entire debug.txt? 20:02 Tekk_ http://dpaste.com 20:04 NekoGloop I'll crop everything that was before I tried, just to save upload times for me and loading times for you guys. 20:06 NekoGloop Never mind, found it :P Forgot a "}" 20:06 Tekk_ ah 20:06 Tekk_ you should look into a "real" text editor 20:07 Tekk_ it'll either autoclose your parens, highlight matching parens, or both 20:07 * NekoGloop has Notepad++ 20:07 Tekk_ I suggest emacs, but I'm evil like that... 20:08 Tekk_ hmm, I should reimplement my paren placement 20:08 khonkhortisan vi here 20:09 khonkhortisan but I use vi, kate, and eclipse, so I'm not editorist 20:09 thexyz vi? not vim? 20:09 Tekk_ I use emacs pretty much everywhere 20:09 khonkhortisan yes vi, even though I have vim. Unless it is a link to vim 20:09 khonkhortisan yep it's a link 20:09 khonkhortisan I use vim 20:11 khonkhortisan my rain now hits the ground, now I have to make it spawn from the clouds 20:12 Tekk_ khonkhortisan: maybe have a special cloud that spawns more rarely that has rain 20:12 Tekk_ and looks a bit darker 20:12 khonkhortisan if I had information about every cloud I could give each one a different water level 20:13 NekoGloop But then 3d clouds would be a requirement, no? 20:13 khonkhortisan they are 34 20:13 khonkhortisan 3d 20:14 NekoGloop 3d clouds is an option... 20:14 khonkhortisan it should work with flat clouds too 20:15 NekoGloop http://dpaste.com/780209/ alright, this is my derpy code. 20:16 khonkhortisan registering the slabs doesn't automatically make it have your modname 20:16 khonkhortisan try stairsplus:cement 20:16 NekoGloop I get an error at line 25... 20:17 khonkhortisan your recipe needs another {}? 20:17 khonkhortisan oh. missing comma line 26 20:17 NekoGloop How about you try it? Just put some random image as "gloopblocks_cement" and depends.txt needs "default" and "stairsplus". 20:18 khonkhortisan raindrops make huge puddles 20:25 khonkhortisan if you shut down the server in the middle of a minetest.after it doesn't get run after you start it back up again 20:25 khonkhortisan and I don't want rain to remove preexisting water 20:25 NekoGloop Then make another liquid in your mod. Make it look like water. 20:26 Tekk_ khonkhortisan: store what "ground" block you run into, if it's water don't delete the block 20:27 khonkhortisan that's the problem, the rain lands into water I should've deleted, so I can't delete it 20:28 khonkhortisan yeah I should make a rain liquid 20:30 SegFault22 20:30 NekoGloop 20:30 NekoGloop ? 20:30 NekoGloop :D 20:32 SegFault22 why is this channel so inactive...? 20:33 NekoGloop Because you ate the cake that was a lie and caused the world to be destroyed. :D 20:33 SegFault22 But I'm still here...on solid ground... 20:34 SegFault22 oh you mean, a server map like the one in Menche's server on port 30002 (it's been ruined) 20:34 SegFault22 -.- 20:37 SegFault22 and I don't eat cake... 20:37 NekoGloop :D 20:38 SegFault22 it was menche's fault that I ruined his world on port #30002, he banned me! xD 20:38 SegFault22 er, banned me on port 30001 so I took out my wrath on 30002... 20:38 NekoGloop You gave it a try, but I poisoned the cake with a memory destroyer. :D 20:40 khonkhortisan I can be eeyore now, with the rain following me everywhere 20:40 NekoGloop xD 20:58 khonkhortisan anyone want to be eeyore? 20:59 NekoGloop Me! Me! 21:00 khonkhortisan rain: http://pastebin.com/vTBdzpVw 21:03 khonkhortisan don't use it on a world you want to keep 21:03 khonkhortisan if you leave before the water is gone it'll still be there 21:03 NekoGloop any depends.txt? 21:03 khonkhortisan make one 21:03 khonkhortisan no dependencies 21:08 khonkhortisan does it work? 21:12 * NekoGloop is a bit busy atm 21:13 khonkhortisan that's right, I need an atm so the rain puddle goes away 21:34 NekoGloop Derpy code: http://dpaste.com/780247/ 21:37 NekoGloop Noone wants to help with my derpy code? 21:39 khonkhortisan .minetest/mods/minetest/gloopblocks/init.lua:147: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 145) near '{' 21:39 NekoGloop I know. But I've checked there and there are no problems. 21:40 khonkhortisan there are problems, you can't just do recipe = {{''}{''}{''}} you have to do recipe = {{''},{''},{''}} 21:40 NekoGloop I did that didnt I? O.o 21:41 khonkhortisan {"default:dirt","",""}, <- comma 21:41 NekoGloop Oh. :3 21:50 NekoGloop Meow~ 21:50 NekoGloop IT WORKS! 21:50 NekoGloop BUT IT DIDNT LOAD MY TEXTURE CORRECTLY! 21:50 NekoGloop BUT IT WORKS! 21:50 NekoGloop :D 21:51 NekoGloop Oh, I named my thing gloopblocks_gravel instead of gloopblocks_cement... 21:53 NekoGloop Only thing now, is getting an account somewhere for file hosting. :3 21:59 Matsetes I am lost! 21:59 khonkhortisan press F5 21:59 Matsetes I'm not able to find my house... 21:59 NekoGloop Debug info == not very good locationing. :3 22:02 NekoGloop There's no map, unless Chuck Norris has made a mod recently. 22:02 Tekk_ a rei's for minetest would be amazing 22:04 NekoGloop At least a compass. Maybe not as helpful but something. 22:04 NekoGloop Might even be possible with the current modding API, though I doubt it. 22:06 NekoGloop OH I KNOW!! Make there be a "pole" block that can be placed and the compass points to it! Put it on your house, never lose it! 22:06 Tekk_ bed mods tend to set your spawn 22:06 khonkhortisan gray bobpole 22:06 Tekk_ that's how minecraft compasses work, it points to your spawn 22:07 NekoGloop Well, I dont think the bed mod I have does that, but let's not copy minecraft here, shall we? 22:07 Tekk_ leo_rockway's bed mod does tha 22:07 Tekk_ t 22:08 khonkhortisan if I use minetest.after it doesn't work if the server restarts. If I use register_abm the timing isn't based on when the node was created. 22:09 khonkhortisan I know, I'll add a neighbor 22:09 NekoGloop I might download his. The mod I have currently uses wool, so it's a no-no. :3 22:10 NekoGloop Does he have the same name on the forums? 22:10 Tekk_ don't know if he's posted it 22:10 NekoGloop Oh. 22:10 NekoGloop :( 22:13 Tekk_ what's the default mt port again? 22:13 Tekk_ I'm going to see if I can get a server set up 22:14 NekoGloop 30000 22:14 NekoGloop I'm soooo joining your server btw. :3 22:16 Matsetes Damn! I spent 3 afternoons to build the house... And now I'm not able to find it... 22:17 NekoGloop xD 22:20 Tekk_ let's see 22:20 Tekk_ leo_rockway: what mods do you think we'd need? 22:20 Tekk_ your beds, lumber, mesecons, carts, stairs+(?) 22:20 Tekk_ nether 22:21 Tekk_ probably more ores 22:21 leo_rockway Tekk_: I haven't published the beds mod. I told the guy who already made the beds mod to include the spawn code. 22:22 leo_rockway commands is my own stuff: 22:22 leo_rockway animatedfluids/ commands/ craft_guide/ doorsplus/ falling_items/ item_drop/ moreores/ nature_pack_controlled/ poisonivy/ snow/ unifieddyes/ 22:22 leo_rockway animatedtorches/ conifers/ death/ drippingwater/ growing_trees/ mobs/ musicmod/ particles/ raft/ timber/ vessels/ 22:22 leo_rockway feel free to ask me what each are 22:22 leo_rockway musicmod doesn't work 22:22 leo_rockway conifers doesn't seem to work on latest 22:23 Tekk_ what's the difference between falling items and item drop? 22:23 Tekk_ could be cool to have oil too 22:23 NekoGloop item_drop is minecraft styled item dropping. 22:23 leo_rockway item drop is item drop. Falling items makes torches fall when you remove the block that's holding it. 22:23 Tekk_ ah 22:24 leo_rockway death is a mixture of the deathsound mod and I added code to make you lose your inventory on death 22:24 Tekk_ oh, good 22:24 leo_rockway not drop, but delete 22:24 NekoGloop Oh my god no. 22:24 Tekk_ no, we want drop 22:24 Tekk_ I can fix that though 22:24 leo_rockway Tekk_: there is a bones mod 22:24 Tekk_ lose is just sadistic 22:24 leo_rockway like nethack 22:24 Tekk_ oh, nice 22:25 leo_rockway so you can use that 22:25 Tekk_ oh 22:25 leo_rockway it's not sadistic 22:25 Tekk_ does mt have signs? 22:25 leo_rockway what's the point of dying if there's no penalty? 22:25 leo_rockway yes 22:25 Tekk_ could be cool to let you drop and edit a gravestone when you die 22:25 Tekk_ and there IS a penalty 22:25 Tekk_ your items despawn if you don't get there in time 22:25 Tekk_ (at least in mc, don't know about mt) 22:25 leo_rockway oh... that doesn't happen 22:25 Tekk_ oh, destroy works then 22:26 leo_rockway there's a drowning mod, but I don't know if it works on latest 22:26 leo_rockway and a suffocation mod 22:26 leo_rockway Tekk_: I replaced the sound of the item_drop mod with blockplanet's 22:26 leo_rockway item_drop or timber, or whichever was that had the sound. 22:27 leo_rockway blockplanet's sounds were better. 22:27 leo_rockway snow mod is particularly good 22:27 leo_rockway moreores too 22:27 NekoGloop You cant put signs on the ground like in minecraft though. They wind up facing toward the sky in an ugly fashion. 22:28 leo_rockway NekoGloop: that didn't happen last time I tried. But I never really put up signs 22:28 leo_rockway I'll check it out now 22:28 NekoGloop Snow mod makes me lag/overheat for some reason. But only when installed and running from my mods folder, servers are fine though. 22:28 NekoGloop Is there a mod that fixes the signs? 22:28 NekoGloop Or is my computer screwing with me and just not doing it right? 22:29 NekoGloop What is the name of the wool object, including what's needed for the modname part. 22:29 leo_rockway what's the recipe? o.o 22:29 NekoGloop W W W 22:29 NekoGloop W W W 22:29 leo_rockway wool is in default 22:30 NekoGloop - S - 22:30 NekoGloop It's called wool? 22:30 leo_rockway so it should be default:wool 22:30 NekoGloop Ok. 22:30 NekoGloop W W W 22:30 NekoGloop W W W 22:30 leo_rockway there's no way to get it in game, though 22:30 NekoGloop - S - 22:30 leo_rockway thanks 22:30 NekoGloop fdsajkflndasjklfnjk STOP POSTING! YOURE SCREWING UP MY WONDERFUL ASCII! 22:30 leo_rockway I was doing a wooden pickaxe before 22:30 leo_rockway W W W 22:30 leo_rockway W W W 22:30 leo_rockway S 22:30 leo_rockway o.o 22:30 NekoGloop W W W 22:31 NekoGloop W W W 22:31 NekoGloop - S - 22:31 NekoGloop :D 22:31 leo_rockway oh, yes, they look ugly 22:31 leo_rockway they used to have a stick, didn't they? 22:31 NekoGloop No idea. 22:31 * NekoGloop started playing yesterday. :3 22:31 leo_rockway I think they did 22:31 leo_rockway I've been trying minetest since 0.2 or 0.3 22:31 NekoGloop In my mod wool is craftable from 9 cottons. :3 22:31 leo_rockway since Tekk_ tried to make me play MC 22:32 leo_rockway wool can be taken from sheep using animals mod 22:32 leo_rockway but I don't like that mod 22:32 leo_rockway Tekk_: animals mod is GPLv2 + NC 22:32 leo_rockway O.O 22:32 leo_rockway music mod suddenly started working 22:32 leo_rockway I think there's an issue with the time function in minetest 22:33 NekoGloop Well I have dirt and gravel stairs/slabs, as well as my own cement, and matching stairs/slabs :3 22:33 leo_rockway time is supposed to go from 0 to 1 22:33 leo_rockway 0.1xxx, 0,2xxxx etc 22:33 leo_rockway sometimes it shows up as 0.01xxx, 0.02xxxxxx 22:33 leo_rockway etc 22:33 NekoGloop Time goes from 1 to 360000 or something. :3 22:33 leo_rockway but now I have music playing 22:33 leo_rockway NekoGloop: not for the API 22:33 NekoGloop Oh. :3 22:34 NekoGloop Tell me, what music mod do you have? 22:34 leo_rockway I took it from github... I don't remember the link. One moment. 22:34 NekoGloop D: github hates me for some reason. 22:35 leo_rockway https://github.com/kddekadenz/minetest/tree/06cf9770e8bd67382f55a0612e1381a3191afed5/games/emptyness/mods 22:35 leo_rockway musicmod 22:35 leo_rockway music is not playing now >.< 22:36 NekoGloop Hmmm... well since all I get is "For security reasons, framing is not allowed" from github, could you put it on a different file hoster? 22:36 leo_rockway one moment 22:36 leo_rockway just the music mod? 22:37 NekoGloop Yes~ :3 22:37 leo_rockway okay, one moment. 22:38 leo_rockway it doesn't work all the time 22:38 leo_rockway only sometimes 22:38 leo_rockway probably because of the time probluem I just mentioned 22:38 NekoGloop Augh, minetest, stop lagging. Nao. >:3 22:38 leo_rockway the music mode changes the music according to the time of the day 22:38 leo_rockway so you get darker music at night 22:39 * Tekk_ is tweaking various things.. 22:39 leo_rockway http://leorockway.com.ar/musicmod.tar.gz 22:39 leo_rockway Tekk_: we can't make people faster. They'd have to recompile their clients. 22:39 leo_rockway NekoGloop: ^ 22:39 Tekk_ leo_rockway: in my case it was the size of the stuff you hold 22:40 Tekk_ it's all so tiny 22:40 leo_rockway Tekk_: that's what she said 22:40 NekoGloop xD 22:40 Tekk_ however, bizarrely, I can only find the setting for my hand 22:40 leo_rockway Tekk_: jordan4ibanez fork of minetest (blockplanet) has a hunger bar and an oxygen bar 22:40 leo_rockway it also has bobbing animation when you walk 22:40 leo_rockway and double tap running like MC 22:41 leo_rockway and particles and item drop by default 22:41 leo_rockway and a better digging animation 22:41 Tekk_ leo_rockway: animals mod sucks 22:41 leo_rockway it doesn't have stairs or slabs 22:41 Tekk_ imo 22:41 leo_rockway Tekk_: yes, it does. 22:41 leo_rockway but it's not the fault of the modder 22:43 Tekk_ leo_rockway: should be forwarded 22:43 Tekk_ can you get the server compiling 22:43 Tekk_ ? 22:43 Tekk_ -j 5 22:44 leo_rockway I think I already compiled it 22:44 leo_rockway about a month ago 22:44 leo_rockway so it should go faster this time 22:45 leo_rockway /usr/local/games okay? 22:45 Tekk_ sure 22:46 Tekk_ default walk speed is 4 right? 22:46 Tekk_ and the acceleration is? 22:46 leo_rockway making 22:46 leo_rockway no idea 22:47 Tekk_ sec 22:47 leo_rockway Tekk_: we need money for better internets :S 22:47 Tekk_ since we both have to mod our client :P 22:47 Tekk_ yep, 4.0, 4.0 22:47 leo_rockway I already have my client with maxwalk_speed at 8 22:47 Tekk_ yeah, it'll yell at us for that 22:47 Tekk_ I had mine at 6 22:48 leo_rockway what will yell at us? 22:48 leo_rockway the server doesn't do a sanity check 22:48 leo_rockway I connected to a server today to check that 22:48 Tekk_ ah 22:49 Tekk_ leo_rockway: stop the build 22:49 Tekk_ we need -j, you're just abusing 1 cpu 22:49 leo_rockway yes 22:49 Tekk_ unless you want to wait a while 22:49 leo_rockway it's already halfway through 22:50 leo_rockway I already built this the other day 22:50 Tekk_ still, it'll be way faster 22:50 leo_rockway so it's going faster this time 22:50 Tekk_ okay then 22:50 leo_rockway are you in a hurry? 22:50 Tekk_ yeah, I want to make sure it works so that we can get hacking :P 22:50 leo_rockway also, how many physical cores do you have? 22:50 leo_rockway we shouldn't hack on this. Lusu o.o 22:50 Tekk_ 4 physical cpus 22:50 leo_rockway plus 4 virtual ones? 22:50 Tekk_ so -j 5 22:51 leo_rockway did you get as an udp port? 22:51 Tekk_ they're all single core, though I guess if it has hyperthreading we have another 4 virtual 22:51 Tekk_ yeah, udp 30k 22:51 leo_rockway can you get another one for mosh? 22:51 Tekk_ what's that? 22:51 leo_rockway http://mosh.mit.edu/ 22:51 leo_rockway mobile shell 22:51 Tekk_ oh 22:51 Tekk_ didn't we decide that it wasn't really worth it? 22:51 leo_rockway Remote terminal application that allows roaming, supports intermittent connectivity, and provides intelligent local echo and line editing of user keystrokes. 22:51 Tekk_ it had a lot of shortcomings 22:52 leo_rockway well, if people will start connecting to the server, chatting in here it's going to be complicated for me o.o 22:52 leo_rockway mosh has local echo 22:52 Tekk_ we won't have many on the server 22:52 leo_rockway okay 22:52 Tekk_ we'll have the user cap at like 3-5 22:52 leo_rockway 70% 22:52 leo_rockway oh, alright 22:53 Tekk_ maybe use it to convince some of ##valix-offtopic that it has a future 22:53 leo_rockway it does 22:53 leo_rockway it really needs mobs, though 22:53 Tekk_ yeah 22:53 Tekk_ real mobs, not 2d ones 22:53 leo_rockway yeah, I don't mind 2D too much 22:53 Tekk_ it could be kinda cool 22:53 Tekk_ but I don't know how flexible it is 22:53 Tekk_ leo_rockway: o.o 22:54 leo_rockway Irrlicht supports 3D, obviously 22:54 Tekk_ are you thinking what I'm thinking? 22:54 leo_rockway yes, but where will we get blue cheese in a pharmacy? 22:54 Tekk_ just go to a french one 22:54 leo_rockway narf 22:54 Tekk_ I was thinking more mmo doom 22:54 leo_rockway Pinky & The Brain <3 22:54 Tekk_ well, mo doom 22:54 Tekk_ not very massive 22:55 leo_rockway doom has 2D mobs, true 22:55 leo_rockway but... 22:55 Tekk_ wolf3d had better ones though 22:55 Tekk_ technologically 22:55 leo_rockway prboom already does that 22:55 leo_rockway why go for minetest? 22:55 leo_rockway prboom allows multiplayer doom 22:55 Tekk_ prboom has deathmatch 22:55 Tekk_ not multiplayer doom 22:55 leo_rockway yes 22:55 leo_rockway oh, you mean humans vs mobs? 22:55 Tekk_ mhm 22:55 leo_rockway hack prboom then o.0 22:56 Tekk_ I'd rather do lua o.o 22:56 NekoGloop :3 Meow~ 22:56 Tekk_ actually I was starting on a gargoyle mob 22:56 leo_rockway Tekk_: it's done 22:56 Tekk_ but I couldn't find any resources that worked well for defining entities 22:56 leo_rockway /usr/local/games/bin/minetestserver 22:56 Tekk_ it was just lua_api.txt, which is kinda annoying to use 22:56 leo_rockway Tekk_: you do the magic 22:56 * NekoGloop wants to be petted~ :3 22:57 Tekk_ ooh 22:57 * leo_rockway throws a Pre-intermediate English Test at NekoGloop 22:57 Tekk_ leo_rockway: I like tcsh's way of exporting path 22:57 leo_rockway Tekk_: how does it do it? 22:58 Tekk_ leo_rockway: it treats path as an array 22:58 leo_rockway export PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin" 22:58 Tekk_ so it's set PATH = ($PATH /foo) 22:58 leo_rockway I have that in my zshrc. I don't know if there's a different way. 22:58 leo_rockway but since zsh has BASH compatibility, that works. 22:59 * NekoGloop finishes the test 100% :3 22:59 Tekk_ trying to connect to it via local 22:59 leo_rockway I'm connecting now 23:00 Tekk_ ah, that's the problem 23:00 Tekk_ lost my dhcp lease 23:00 leo_rockway [0%] media 23:00 leo_rockway I canceled 23:00 Tekk_ O.o 23:00 Tekk_ leo_rockway: what version are you using? 23:00 leo_rockway Connecting to server... 23:00 leo_rockway Tekk_: latest 23:00 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 23:00 leo_rockway so is the server 23:01 Tekk_ the server should run stable.. 23:01 leo_rockway server is git latest 23:01 leo_rockway 4.2rc1 23:01 khonkhortisan client is git latest 23:01 leo_rockway okay, I'm in 23:01 leo_rockway Tekk_: are you there? 23:01 Tekk_ no 23:01 Tekk_ I'm running stable 23:01 leo_rockway Tekk_: did you seriously think I'd be running stable? 23:01 leo_rockway o.0 23:01 Tekk_ touché 23:02 leo_rockway I'm not seeing digging animations :S 23:03 Tekk_ leo_rockway: hold on, compiling 23:03 Tekk_ I'm kind of disappointed that mtserver doesn't have a console 23:03 Tekk_ it's always fun messing with the players 23:03 leo_rockway Tekk_: you can do that from the game itself 23:03 leo_rockway you can define admins 23:03 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 23:03 Tekk_ back in the minecraft betas whoever was in the server at the time would play god o.o 23:04 Tekk_ smite some people, reward others 23:04 * NekoGloop wants to be petted :3 23:04 Tekk_ 60% 23:04 leo_rockway I don't know why I can't see digging animations. 23:04 leo_rockway that's so weird 23:04 Tekk_ I'll be there soon to confirm/deny 23:04 leo_rockway okay 23:05 Tekk_ leo_rockway: another thing I think we want to mod is digging time 23:05 leo_rockway why? 23:05 Tekk_ jumping between minecraft and minetest EVERYTHING feels slow in minetest 23:05 leo_rockway :S 23:05 Tekk_ but the digging especially 23:05 leo_rockway I'm going to look for nyancat 23:05 Tekk_ I mean, is it just me or does the wooden axe not cut any faster than your hands? 23:06 NekoGloop Nope, Tekk_, it does not. :3 23:06 leo_rockway it does for me 23:06 leo_rockway Tekk_: you're playing a different version, though 23:06 Tekk_ leo_rockway: I think I'll throw lumber on there 23:07 leo_rockway timber? 23:07 Tekk_ maybe later on I'll extend it to allow more types of wood, more things to do with it, etc. 23:07 Tekk_ it's a timber mod, but to avoid conflicts I called it lumber 23:07 leo_rockway okay 23:08 leo_rockway I'm planting trees 23:09 Tekk_ leo_rockway: moving too fast 23:09 Tekk_ you're ruining everything :P 23:09 leo_rockway how so? 23:09 Tekk_ you're not actually 23:09 Tekk_ it's just that I caught you moving too fast 23:09 Tekk_ and it rubberbanded you 23:10 leo_rockway what? o.0 23:10 Tekk_ it moved you to where you "should" be 23:10 leo_rockway no, it didn't 23:10 Tekk_ okay, down for a sec 23:10 leo_rockway what makes you think that? 23:10 khonkhortisan jitter can cause that, or sneak jumping 23:10 Tekk_ leo_rockway: 19:08:39: ACTION[ServerThread]: Player leo_rockway moved too fast; resetting position 23:10 Tekk_ that made me think that 23:11 leo_rockway huh 23:11 khonkhortisan I get that a lot climbing my mine shaft using the sneak key 23:11 khonkhortisan it's annoying 23:11 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: well, in this case it is true. I changed the source. 23:11 Tekk_ aand we're back up with lumber 23:11 leo_rockway I move twice as fast. 23:11 leo_rockway Tekk_: so maybe we want to update the limitation... 23:12 Tekk_ I'll change myself to 8 too 23:12 leo_rockway oh, there's an image missing 23:12 Tekk_ ... 23:12 Tekk_ probably helps to compile 23:12 leo_rockway crack_anylength.png 23:12 leo_rockway that's why I can't see the animation 23:12 leo_rockway why is it missing? o.0 23:12 Tekk_ dunno 23:13 Tekk_ it missing in your local? 23:13 Tekk_ we could just upload it 23:13 leo_rockway I hear you 23:14 Tekk_ yeah, 8 feels a bit fast to me 23:14 Tekk_ 6 was a natural speed 23:15 leo_rockway ha! 23:15 leo_rockway I have half a heart o.o 23:17 Tekk_ agh, I missed ttk again? D: 23:21 leo_rockway Tekk_: let me know when it's back 23:22 Tekk_ leo_rockway: actually I think that we could save even more compile time 23:22 Tekk_ if we didn't compile the client 23:22 leo_rockway mhm 23:23 Tekk_ we're bactk 23:23 khonkhortisan what variable says how high water_flowing is? 23:23 leo_rockway I don't remember if I pulled the client 23:23 leo_rockway I guess I did 23:23 leo_rockway I just replicated the PKGBUILD 23:23 Tekk_ we have minetest and minetestserver 23:24 Tekk_ oh, hold on 23:24 Tekk_ leo_rockway: what's the missing texture 23:25 leo_rockway this one /usr/local/games/share/minetest/games/minimal/mods/default/textures/crack_anylength.png 23:25 leo_rockway it's in minimal only, for some reason 23:26 Tekk_ fixed 23:26 leo_rockway is the server back up? 23:26 Tekk_ yep 23:26 leo_rockway -.- I could check that myself o.o 23:27 Tekk_ yeah you could 23:27 Tekk_ paux minetest 23:27 leo_rockway paux? 23:27 Tekk_ paska.. 23:27 leo_rockway o.0 23:27 leo_rockway oh 23:27 Tekk_ leo_rockway: are you working? 23:27 leo_rockway ps aux 23:27 leo_rockway yes 23:27 leo_rockway yes, I am 23:27 leo_rockway but no tickets 23:27 leo_rockway and I'm WFH 23:27 Tekk_ yeah, I have paux aliased to ps aux | grep 23:27 leo_rockway I'm in bed, with my cat on my feet 23:28 Tekk_ least I thouhgt I did.. 23:28 Tekk_ yep, it works 23:28 leo_rockway I can't connect :S 23:28 leo_rockway probably because it's sending me all the mesecons stuff 23:28 Tekk_ I thought you could connect 23:28 leo_rockway I can't now 23:28 Tekk_ hold on 23:28 leo_rockway my internet is very slow today 23:29 leo_rockway and I'm connected to the work VPN on the work laptop 23:29 Tekk_ it says you time out 23:29 leo_rockway I'm at 30KB/s today 23:29 Tekk_ okay, mesecons says it loads 23:29 Tekk_ servere reloaded 23:29 leo_rockway Waiting content... (pres Escape to cancel) 23:29 leo_rockway [X] Item definitions 23:30 leo_rockway [X] Node definitions 23:30 leo_rockway [0%] Media 23:30 Tekk_ you're here for me. no errors on the server 23:30 leo_rockway it's my internets 23:30 Tekk_ try reconnecting? 23:30 leo_rockway I'm there for you! <3 (?) 23:31 leo_rockway yeah, I tried. Many times 23:31 leo_rockway perhaps the server is keeping me out because of that? 23:31 leo_rockway oh, nevermind 23:31 leo_rockway thereI am 23:31 leo_rockway and I can see the digging animation just fine 23:31 leo_rockway alright, time to get some mese 23:31 Tekk_ yeah, because I fixed it :P 23:31 NekoGloop How would I go about getting on this server? :3 23:31 cornernote hey 23:32 cornernote im going to have a whinge 23:32 cornernote minetest is really crap... and i'll explain why 23:32 cornernote its too addictive and its making me spend more time playing games than working!!! 23:33 NekoGloop xD 23:34 leo_rockway hey, I'm working! 23:34 NekoGloop Working on getting mese. 23:34 cornernote so, i came up with an idea to fix it 23:34 leo_rockway no, I'm actually working o.o 23:34 cornernote see, i am currently working on an ecommerce app for a client, written in php/mysql/etc 23:34 cornernote now, the progress is really slow (because of minetest) 23:35 leo_rockway I work at the second biggest consulting company in the world 23:35 leo_rockway I hate it o.o 23:35 cornernote i should write the ecommerce app in minetest 23:35 RealBadAngel hi 23:35 cornernote that way it would get a lot more development time from me 23:35 NekoGloop Write the app in mesecons! :D 23:35 khonkhortisan 16:36:17: ERROR[ServerThread]: ServerEnvironment::addActiveObjectRaw(): could not find block for storing id=4 statically 23:35 cornernote think customers would mind downloading minetest in order to shop online ? 23:35 khonkhortisan I think I'm trying to create rain where there's nothing 23:35 NekoGloop Hey, Tekk_, what's the server address and port? 23:36 Tekk_ NekoGloop: hold on, we don't have the servere ready 23:36 NekoGloop D: 23:36 Tekk_ figuring out our mods 23:37 khonkhortisan hahaha I moved around a lot and no rain fell. Then when I went up it all fell at the same time 23:37 NekoGloop Let me upload my mod, you'll like it :3 23:40 leo_rockway 20 more minutes and I'm off work 23:40 leo_rockway I hope I don't get any incident within the next 20 minutes -.- 23:42 cornernote 20 mins, just enough time for a 30 min game of MT 23:44 NekoGloop lol 23:44 NekoGloop Well, I'm gonna upload my mod in like 10 mins here. 23:44 leo_rockway chest aren't working o.o 23:45 NekoGloop Really? I never have problems with those :3 23:45 Tekk_ furnaces are broken too 23:45 Tekk_ can anyone on latest git confirm? 23:45 leo_rockway I am on latest git 23:45 leo_rockway it works on my comp 23:45 leo_rockway I'll rebuild on the server 23:46 Tekk_ leo_rockway: no reason to take it down while we build o.o 23:46 Tekk_ just tell me before it installs 23:47 Tekk_ yeah, playing through this 23:47 Tekk_ the walk speed should be the default swim speed 23:50 khonkhortisan If I spawn my rain too high, it won't fall. What's the furthest away from a player an entity will move? 23:51 leo_rockway well, I didn't take it down, but I deleted the directories 23:51 leo_rockway 40% built 23:51 Tekk_ I took it down 23:52 Tekk_ yeah, chests work in my single player too 23:52 leo_rockway 62% 23:52 Tekk_ are you using -j? 23:52 leo_rockway 5 23:52 Tekk_ good boy 23:52 leo_rockway =] 23:53 leo_rockway 6 minutes 23:53 leo_rockway and I'm done with work \o/ 23:54 leo_rockway yesterday a guy talked to me on the IM... it was 8:43pm 23:54 leo_rockway I'm like... yeah, I'm leaving, call India. 23:57 leo_rockway Tekk_: oh, I built in /usr/share/games instead of /usr/local/games 23:57 leo_rockway :S 23:58 Tekk_ okay 23:58 Tekk_ no problem 23:58 leo_rockway also, server doesn't start with the game part 23:58 leo_rockway without* 23:58 Tekk_ okay 23:58 leo_rockway so I'll have to rebuild 23:59 leo_rockway but I'll have dinner now o.o 23:59 Tekk_ okay, I'll probably just su and install once it's done 23:59 leo_rockway it is installed 23:59 leo_rockway but only server, not game 23:59 Tekk_ ah 23:59 Tekk_ yeah, so I'll so to you and get it running