Time Nick Message 00:10 VanessaE even NF 00:10 VanessaE evening, too 00:11 vortexlabs hello 00:11 NakedFury hey 00:11 VanessaE hey 00:12 khonkhortisan git pull; cd make; make; http://pastebin.com/d2wKgdat 00:12 khonkhortisan now I can't play anymore 00:12 VanessaE pull from an older commit or grab 0.4.1-stable 00:13 VanessaE c55's implementing some kind of rollback feature right now 00:13 VanessaE commits won't be stable for a bit 00:16 OWNSyouAll VanessaE: like rolling back changes a player made? 00:16 VanessaE yes 00:17 VanessaE anti-griefing stuff 00:17 OWNSyouAll D: 00:17 OWNSyouAll thats awesome 00:43 khonkhortisan 21:29 15:29:17: ERROR[main]: Could not find or load game "minetest" 00:43 khonkhortisan what did you rename to fix that? 00:52 VanessaE did you download the minetest_game repository also? 00:52 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game 00:53 VanessaE download the zip of that ^^, unzip it, rename the resultant folder to "minetest_game" and put it in celeron55-minetest-blahblah/games 00:53 khonkhortisan I have it in git in the correct location 00:56 VanessaE but is it named correctly? 00:56 khonkhortisan yes, unless the naming style changed recently 00:56 khonkhortisan games/minetest_game 00:57 VanessaE right 00:57 VanessaE but what's inside? 00:57 khonkhortisan game.conf .git .gitignore mods README.txt 00:57 VanessaE huh. it should work? 01:00 VanessaE otherwise I really don't know what would be wrong 02:27 GTRsdk I get like 30 FPS on my N450 now :D 02:27 GTRsdk as a max though 02:38 OWNSuAll how do you unlimit your fps? 02:38 GTRsdk unlimit it? 02:38 GTRsdk you need unlimited hardware 02:39 OWNSuAll no minetest locks it at 60fps max 02:40 GTRsdk hmm... I think VanessaE heard of some 70-something FPS 02:41 VanessaE some hardware can do 75 Hz 02:41 VanessaE some less common monitors can max out at 120 02:41 GTRsdk hmm... I'm no longer using 100% CPU (definitely hitting a GPU limit now) 02:41 vortexlabs When I play minetest, i use 100% cpu 02:42 vortexlabs dem pentium 4's 02:42 VanessaE as for minetest peaking at 60 fps, why care? no one but a select few can see more than that anyway 02:43 GTRsdk vortexlabs: which OS?: 02:43 vortexlabs winxp home 02:43 GTRsdk woah... I got like 48 FPS max when looking at the sky 02:43 vortexlabs I got upto 02:43 vortexlabs 60 02:43 vortexlabs when looking at the sky 02:43 GTRsdk woah... 60 FPS looking at the sky :D 02:43 GTRsdk (though not at the clouds) 02:44 GTRsdk and at like 50% CPU 02:44 vortexlabs oh i was looking at clouds 02:44 GTRsdk wait I was lookign at the ground with fog enabled 02:45 GTRsdk looking at the clouds got me a max of 48 02:45 SmugLeaf i used to get 200 FPS 02:45 GTRsdk walking around brings me to 3 - 15 02:45 vortexlabs i have fog disbled and low sight range or whatever its called 02:45 SmugLeaf in minetest 02:45 GTRsdk if I have fog enabled while walking/exploring, I can do 15 - 30 FPS 02:47 GTRsdk with CPU usage of like 75% - 100% 02:48 GTRsdk so I think I've gained about +5 FPS 03:12 vortexlabs gtg 03:12 vortexlabs bye 03:38 GTRsdk strange... only now did I get the minetest server to shut down randomly 03:40 VanessaE yay, my texture packs are updated for the latest unifieddyes and vessels. 03:40 * VanessaE <-- bored. 03:50 vicscandl VanessaE: so i've not really played on any multiuser systems... suggestions? 03:50 vicscandl (or anyone else for that matter) 03:50 VanessaE redcrab.suret.net 30401 (need to ask on the forums for build privs) 03:50 VanessaE that one's fun to play on 03:52 vicscandl thx 03:52 vicscandl i'll try that one now. 03:54 vicscandl :( no workie 4.1-latest 03:54 VanessaE it's not 4.1, its 0.4.1 03:54 VanessaE and no, his doesn't work with anything over 0.4.0 03:54 VanessaE sorry, forgot to say that 03:54 vicscandl no worries, i'm learnin... :) 03:55 VanessaE actually 0.4.1-stable should work come to think of it 03:55 VanessaE just not 0.4.x from recent git 03:55 VanessaE (because of changes in the server<->client protocol) 03:55 vicscandl saw that update to snow biomes today... 03:55 vicscandl nice work on the blending! 03:56 VanessaE blending? 03:56 vicscandl changing the biome borders from blocky to "smooth" 03:56 VanessaE I haven't tried that mod yet, I'm waiting for a standard to emerge..there are like 3 competing mods 03:56 vicscandl sorry, thought i saw a response from you on the forums on that one... 03:57 * GTRsdk makes note to git checkout stable-0.4 03:57 VanessaE (mauvebic's 4seasons, the one you mentioned, and I forget what the third was) 03:57 VanessaE haha, you think I remember what I comment on anymore? :-) 03:58 vicscandl yea, i had 4seasons loaded a bit ago, but i'm waiting for him to end his forking and start using a spork or something... 03:58 VanessaE haha 03:58 vicscandl VanessaE: i'm old, i forget faster 03:58 * VanessaE <- 38. old enough to forget this morning's breakfast :-) 03:58 vicscandl notch! same age, perfect 03:59 VanessaE NOOO! 03:59 VanessaE G*d no 03:59 VanessaE (he's 38?) 03:59 vicscandl aye, i am 03:59 vicscandl funny shit 03:59 VanessaE oh, notch != Notch :-) 04:00 vicscandl aye notch != Notch 04:00 vicscandl s/notch/sweet/ 04:00 VanessaE ah better :-) 04:02 vicscandl going to use minetest and modding it to get my kid into programming... this is so effing perfect 04:02 VanessaE absolutely 04:02 VanessaE easy to see your results 04:02 vicscandl 100% 04:02 vicscandl not hard to spawn a new server or world in seconds 04:03 VanessaE you should have him play around with some of my code. it ain't perfect by c55's standards, but the work :-) 04:03 VanessaE the/they -> the mods 04:03 vicscandl oooo c55 a code-lint hooker? 04:03 VanessaE eh? 04:03 vicscandl [hooker != bad meaning] 04:04 vicscandl code-lint (old unix cli that cleans code to a specific set of standards, mostly sed/awk scripts) 04:04 VanessaE ohhh 04:04 * vicscandl is an old school nerd... 04:04 VanessaE well it's not quite that picky, more like my coding style and what I make my mods do isn't up to his preference :-) 04:05 vicscandl i'm hard on clean ass code here at the office... 04:05 vicscandl if i can't read it, you ain't gettin paid. 04:05 VanessaE yeah but what about clean *program* code? 04:05 VanessaE I mean, ass code has to be clean or it'll stink 04:06 vicscandl readability, proper commenting, use of some sort of repository 04:06 VanessaE but unclean *program* code can cause data loss ;-) 04:06 VanessaE all my textures and mods are on github :-) 04:06 vicscandl standards, in basic. 04:06 vicscandl VanessaE: lol, ass code 04:07 vicscandl s/clean\sass/clean-ass/ 04:07 GTRsdk what are the reasons a server woudl just start randomly shutting down? 04:07 vicscandl oh, i love the heck out of that... single script with all your git refs, full update of code in seconds? 04:07 vicscandl i'll take two, please. 04:07 VanessaE GTRsdk: corrupted map, broken entities (/clearobjects), poor mod code 04:08 VanessaE heh, I actually type my commands out by hand still. too lazy to make a proper script :-) 04:08 VanessaE brb, I need to restart. keyboard driver is pissed off. 04:10 VanessaE there. 04:11 VanessaE I like having a SSD for my boot/home drive :D 04:23 vicscandl ssd is so effing rad... 04:23 vicscandl well, finally getting slotable ssd "hard drives" 04:23 VanessaE you can have my SSD when you pry it from my cold, dead computer :-) 04:24 vicscandl VanessaE: you turn your computer off? wtf? 04:24 vicscandl i've got enough ups here so my shit will go like 2 weeks after i die 04:26 VanessaE of course. I don't like to waste electricity :-) 04:27 VanessaE I think my UPS will keep both machines and associated hardware running for about 15 mins 04:27 VanessaE which is enough 04:28 vicscandl company servers installed at house. :( 04:28 VanessaE wow 04:29 vicscandl no place safer i say.. :) 04:44 VanessaE zzz 04:54 cornernote hi VanessaE, can you help me make a graphic for my craft_guide ? 04:54 VanessaE oh, possibly :-) 04:54 cornernote doesnt have to be a sign either 04:54 VanessaE I take it the default sign isn't good enough? :-) 04:55 cornernote im also going to update it to use the new formspec 04:55 cornernote with buttons 04:55 VanessaE do me a favor? 04:55 VanessaE port c55's 'creative mode inventory' over to survival mode? 04:56 cornernote survival mode ? 04:56 VanessaE having it or something just like it in survival mode would be really nice - list only the things the user has actually picked up, crafted, etc 04:56 VanessaE survival - you know, the "regular" mode when "creative" isn't selected 04:56 cornernote i havent used the new creative mode 04:56 cornernote loading now 04:57 cornernote oh, nice 04:57 VanessaE yeah, see how he did that? 04:57 cornernote yeah, i was looking at the code last night 04:57 VanessaE I'd love to see that left-hand menu replace the survival-mode inventory entirely. 04:57 VanessaE (save for the hotbar of course) 04:57 cornernote compiled latest 04:57 cornernote did everything 04:57 cornernote then forgot to look at it ingame lol 04:57 VanessaE haha 04:58 vicscandl having the creative mode menu available should be a granted priv (imho) 04:58 cornernote why do you want that in normal mode ? 04:58 cornernote ahh, i see 04:58 VanessaE cornernote: because the existing inventory is too small. 04:58 cornernote so an admin can do whatever they want, but users are limited 04:58 VanessaE 32 slots ain't enough sometimes :-) 04:59 vicscandl oh.... i totally misinterpreted your request V 04:59 VanessaE I've had to resort to storing stuff in my crafting grid also :-) 04:59 vicscandl ie: the normal inv works like the creative add on 04:59 cornernote why not use big chests ? 04:59 VanessaE right - but only showing items you've actually earned/crafted/mined 04:59 * vicscandl likes big chests. 04:59 cornernote oh, we can have paginated chests 05:00 cornernote vanessa, how about how WoW do it... 05:00 cornernote you have bag slots 05:00 vicscandl VanessaE: ok, so like if you have never gotten a nyancat, it would not be in the left 05:00 VanessaE vicscandl: because I might be down in a mine somewhere 2000m below sea level while such a chest is up above in my house or so 05:00 cornernote depending on the bags you have in your slots, you can store more things 05:00 VanessaE vicscandl: exactly.]' 05:00 vicscandl VanessaE: merit badges 05:00 vicscandl per se 05:00 VanessaE merit badges? as in earned skills. Interesting idea I guess 05:01 cornernote i think limited inventory is part of the fin of the game 05:01 cornernote fun too 05:01 vicscandl cornernote: agreed, as well 05:01 VanessaE mm.. maybe 05:01 VanessaE I dunno 05:01 cornernote like the bones mod =) 05:01 vicscandl cornernote: link? 05:01 khonkhortisan bones are the bane of my existence 05:01 VanessaE bones mod? do not want. :-) 05:02 cornernote http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minetest+bones+mod 05:02 vicscandl was thinking a desc, should have been clear.. sorry 05:02 khonkhortisan ah, the good old lmgtfy 05:02 vicscandl i'll go search it in the forum 05:02 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2206 05:03 vicscandl koo 05:04 cornernote if anyone uses vines, i did a fix so the rope_block removal doesnt kill the server 05:04 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=34113 05:05 cornernote works really well, can clear out old ropes too just by putting the rope block on them then removing it 05:05 VanessaE I eventually uninstalled the old vines mod, got tired of having to chop down 40-50m tall vines :-) 05:05 VanessaE I haven't tried the recent one with the ropeblock 05:06 cornernote ropeblock is really cool 05:06 cornernote i found another one called ed:earth_driller 05:06 cornernote tweaked it a bit... 05:07 cornernote put it down and it makes a 50 deep hole, then after 4 deep it makes the hole a 3x3 wide instead of a 1x1 tunnel 05:07 cornernote great for making connecting tunnels, cos u know they all go to the same depth 05:08 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/tree/master/mods/ed 05:08 cornernote dunno where it came from :S 05:08 cornernote sec, let me apply my change 05:09 VanessaE cornernote: oh yeah, I saw that one in a youtube video 05:10 cornernote ok, updated - https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/blob/master/mods/ed/init.lua 05:25 GTRsdk Hi Jeija 05:25 VanessaE wb Jeija 05:25 khonkhortisan hello mesecons: 05:33 VanessaE cornernote: why for you no render block-shapes on the demo page for MTGW? :-) 05:33 VanessaE (and nodeboxes) 05:42 VanessaE also, your nyancat textures are coming from some leftover texture pack - they look like grey blocks of some kind. Suggest deleting the entire texture cache and re-populating it from mine or whatever like before 05:43 khonkhortisan silly me I was running git reset --hard HEAD~1 then HEAD~2 then HEAD~3 so I was actually at ~1 then ~3 then ~6 05:45 vicscandl nice work jeija 05:45 khonkhortisan my textures are all weird now that I updated my source 05:47 khonkhortisan I get free stuff now even out of creative mode 05:50 Nemo08 morning all! 05:51 VanessaE hey Nemo 05:53 khonkhortisan I have a Tester Tool 1 05:53 Nemo08 cool! 05:56 khonkhortisan my ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/* mods don't load anymore, anyone know where it moved to? 05:57 VanessaE are you using a run-in-place build? 05:57 khonkhortisan yes, and I updated it 05:57 VanessaE that's why 05:57 VanessaE look in celeron55-minetest-blahblah/mods/minetest 05:58 VanessaE mods go there when you use a run-in-place build. system-wide installs use ~/.minetest/mods/minetest 05:58 khonkhortisan then an ln -s for me 06:10 VanessaE cornernote: hm, forget my previous comment, I was looking at the older "fasthost" address (which btw shows more mods than the cornernote.net address) 06:13 VanessaE hey jin 06:22 jin_xi morning vanessae 06:46 VanessaE bbl, time to (try to )sleep. 07:00 Anelisa hi ! 07:01 Calinou hi 07:03 Anelisa (bon je parle en français comme ça ça seras plus simple pour la phrase) Je suis passée en 0.4.1 totue seule hier ! ^^' 07:03 Anelisa *toute 07:03 Calinou :D 07:03 Calinou dans la prochaine version, il y aura de la laine... 07:03 Calinou et des colorants 07:03 Calinou et un menu "mode créatif" amélioré 07:03 Anelisa youpii 07:03 Calinou http://c55.me/random/2012-07/tscrot-2012-07-25_18-29-37.png 07:04 Calinou les forums de minetest ont 2500 members! 07:04 Calinou :D 07:04 Anelisa ah mais dans ma version je l'ai ça ! ^^ 07:04 Anelisa (la poudre et tout ^^') 07:05 Calinou ah cool 07:05 Calinou t'as une version de développement alors... pas la 0.4.1 07:05 Calinou (une version mise à jour tous les jours) 07:05 Calinou enfin, recompilée automatiquement 07:06 Anelisa aah... ben tant mieux xD 07:06 Anelisa j'ai fait la commande de l'autre fois : sudo apt-get install et sudo apt-get upgrade 07:07 Anelisa On pourras personaliser aussi son personnage ou pas ? *-* 07:09 Calinou Anelisa, c'est sudo apt-get update pas install ^^ 07:09 Calinou update = mettre à jour les listes de paquets 07:09 Anelisa ah oui ^^' 07:09 Calinou upgrade = faire une mise à jour des paquets 07:09 Calinou On pourras personaliser aussi son personnage ou pas ? *-* 07:09 Calinou pas prévu avant un moment... 07:09 Calinou c'est secondaire 07:10 Anelisa aah mais c'est prévu ! *u* 07:12 Anelisa omg un de ces bugs dans un mod ! @_@ 07:14 Anelisa la poudre sert à quoi pour le craft ? 07:39 Anelisa ... 07:46 Calinou Anelisa, la poudre permet de faire de la laine colorée ^^ 07:46 Calinou poudre + laine blanche dans le craft je crois 07:46 Anelisa aah ! ^^ 07:48 Anelisa ça fait que me donner plus de laine.. ^^" 07:48 Anelisa ou ça change de couleur ma laine xD 07:50 Anelisa petite question avant que je brule ma forêt, comment j'éteind le feu ?? lol 07:50 Calinou clic gauche le feu ^^ 07:50 Calinou ou avec des seaux d'eau 07:53 Anelisa aah ok ^^ 07:59 * Anelisa reviens dans 20 minutes.. /! \ 08:00 * Anelisa not work in computer.. she's join 20 minuts (i have try to translate.. u_u) 08:12 * Anelisa is here. 08:18 Anelisa @_@ 08:22 Anelisa Acced denied. Reason : Your client's version is not supported. Server version is 0.4.0. server's PROTOCOL_VERSION is 11. client's PROTOCOL_VERSION is 12. 08:23 Anelisa He's saied that's when i want connect with a server ! :/ 08:47 Anelisa ... 09:02 sfan5_ Anelisa: you have 0.4.1 the server has 0.4.0 09:03 Anelisa argh 09:03 sfan5 or any newer version than 0.4.1 09:03 Anelisa but in the page is said : 0.4.0/0.4.1 u_u 09:03 sfan5 ... 09:03 sfan5 i think you have the latest git then 09:04 sfan5 the latest git is not backward compatible with 0.4.0/0.4.1 09:06 Anelisa oh... 09:09 Anelisa thanks 09:09 sfan5 no problem 09:40 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/0190f9b077dcb2b8cb41c622dd91ffc1e04dacac 09:40 Calinou :D 09:42 Anelisa ?? 09:43 Anelisa Pas compris/ I don't understand... 09:43 thexyz awesome 09:43 Anelisa A person can tell me why it's awesome or Calinou happy ? 09:44 Calinou also: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x_changelog.txt 09:44 Calinou Anelisa, ça permet de voir qui a griefé quelque chose... et d'annuler le grief 09:44 jordach|tablet sup ninjas 09:45 Calinou hi 09:45 Anelisa Calinou, mais avec quel commande, j'ai pas compris ! :s 09:45 Calinou /rollback (il faut le privilège "rollback") 09:45 Calinou cette commande est dispo uniquement sur la toute dernière version 09:46 * Calinou doit y aller 09:46 Anelisa .. ah okayy bye 09:48 Anelisa hi 09:48 jordach|tablet VanessaE: now booting the monster 09:54 Anelisa i have install the new version but she's doen't work ! 10:10 jordach AHA 10:10 jordach fianlly 10:10 jordach finally 10:11 jordach i can share music between xubuntu and my xbox now :D 7.1 sound here we come :) 10:11 thexyz that's so minetest-related 10:12 jordach it can bge chit-chat here 10:12 jordach s/bge/be 10:18 Anelisa u_u 10:27 cornernote new craft_guide -- coming soon -- http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2enaqf8&s=6 10:36 Anelisa ^^ 11:22 Calinou adding wool/dye support to MCE... :) 11:22 mauvebic which dyes? jordachs or vanessas? 11:26 darkrose probably the official ones 11:26 mauvebic there are no official dyes yet lol 11:27 mauvebic just got 5-6 dye packs 11:27 darkrose https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/tree/master/mods/dye oh look, official dyes 11:29 mauvebic thats in 0.4.1? 11:30 mauvebic and which pack did they finally go with? 11:34 Calinou the official one 11:34 Calinou of course :) 11:34 Calinou jordach's wool mod is also supported, for backwards compat 11:34 Calinou (in misa's pack, it uses more "uniform" textures, which is probably more suitable for pixel art) 11:35 Calinou the textures for the official wool in misa pack are more suitable for carpets/etc 11:35 Anelisa re 11:36 mauvebic what i meant was: who wrote the official one? 11:37 darkrose celeron did, it's a bit of a meld of the others 11:37 mauvebic ha, so why do the others bother to maintain seperate dye packs? lol 11:38 darkrose I think VanessaE's is just going to be an extension to the standard dye mod, for more colours 11:40 Anelisa .. 11:41 Anelisa darkrose, super !!! 11:41 mauvebic maybe the next versions will simply have real RGB color wheels in the crafting windows 11:43 * Calinou is trying minecraft 1.3 pre-release... 11:43 Calinou it has horizontal trees, but I just beat mojang 8 months ago about that 11:44 Anelisa translation for me ?_? x) 11:46 jordach Calinou, sfan5 must be a Mojang spy!! 11:46 Calinou why? 11:47 jordach how would they know about horzontal trees 11:52 Anelisa plop 11:55 * Anelisa part 11:57 sfan5 jordach: what? 11:57 jordach its a TF2 reference 12:01 Calinou the sfan is a spy 12:03 sfan5 the calinou is a lie 13:04 cornernote [craft_guide] - updated - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2334 13:04 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/30zcn.png 13:05 cornernote google maps for minetest ? 13:05 thexyz googlemap-like mapper 13:06 thexyz written by Nemo08 13:07 cornernote is it available to share ? 13:07 thexyz ? 13:08 cornernote the code 13:08 thexyz yes, but it is not-release-version 13:08 thexyz https://github.com/Nemo08/hxmtmapper 13:11 thexyz and it is slooooooow 13:13 Calinou thexyz, are you in private nav? 13:14 Calinou why is it some robot and not a spy-ish guy? 13:14 Calinou at the top left 13:18 thexyz that's user icon 13:20 Calinou oh, ok 13:22 Fixer redcrab@30401 is down? 13:23 jordach PROBABLY 13:23 Fixer it works 13:26 Calinou NOT REALLY SURE, BUT I LIKE WRITING IN ALLCAPS. 13:28 Fixer don't 13:28 jordach Calinou, i wan organizing my media library 13:29 Calinou k :P 13:30 jordach like CD1, CD2, because disc names screw gmusicbrowser in the ass at times 13:36 * jordach hates java on linux 13:36 jordach Y U HAVE TO GO THROUGH /media (THEN MOUNT) THEN SELECT FILES, Y CANT U HAVE A DRIVE LINK AT THE TOP, IS IT THAT HARD? 13:39 Calinou red eclipse runs at 95-400FPS, 1920x1080 no AA 16x AF, without shaders 13:39 Calinou free drivers 13:39 Calinou :3 13:40 Fixer last cave was at -110, now i'm at -240 and no cave... 13:42 Fixer pfff 13:42 Fixer -270 13:42 Fixer come on 13:56 Fixer any advice about finding a cave? 13:59 jordach Fixer, dig down 13:59 jordach litterally 13:59 Fixer no 14:01 thexyz use fly mode 14:02 Fixer cheat 14:02 Fixer i will resume later 14:30 Calinou hi NakedFury 14:50 Calinou https://twitter.com/jeb_/status/228829830731427840 14:50 Calinou we need this for minetest D: 14:53 NakedFury a block that can be programmed in game to run commands and do things 14:53 NakedFury I like it 14:54 thexyz that can be done in minetest 14:55 thexyz but i don't see there clear explanation of what this thing does 14:55 NakedFury for adventure modes 14:55 NakedFury you reach a goal or some special place, you are healed up or given xp or given items 14:56 NakedFury like in other games 15:25 thefamilygrog66 Hey all, I'd like to compile a version minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508 for gnu/linux - any ideas where I can download the tarball for that (the newest version doesn't play well with the servers I use) 15:30 Calinou github tags are you friend 15:30 thefamilygrog66 I think I've found it... 15:30 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/zipball/0.4.dev-20120606 15:30 thexyz http://github.com/celeron55/minetest 15:30 Calinou ^ 15:30 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tarball/0.4.dev-20120606 15:30 Calinou ^ tarball 15:30 thefamilygrog66 thanks calinou 15:30 Calinou erm, not sure if there's a tarball 15:30 jordach Calinou: finally out of his waters 15:31 Calinou there should be 15:31 Calinou jordach, what 15:31 thefamilygrog66 seems to be, yes 15:31 thefamilygrog66 thanks again 15:44 VanessaE good morning all. 15:51 jordach o hai VanessaE 15:51 VanessaE hey 15:51 * jordach aint gonna update 15:51 jordach and im coding C++ like hell 15:56 * jordach has added wool to minetest classic 16:03 VanessaE cool 16:03 jordach VanessaE, there are only 4 errors so far 16:03 jordach its either my misspellings (correct) or the DAMN LUA COMMA 16:04 thexyz Calinou: you know, quotes should look differently 16:15 Calinou what quotes? 16:15 thexyz in minetest wiki 16:16 Calinou ik... better than nothing 16:17 Calinou \o/ 703ms ping 16:17 jordach \o/ a kick 16:18 * jordach loves unicode ╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮ 16:18 Calinou dicks and a face 16:19 jordach middle fingers actually 16:19 OWNS last time i checked we didint have 3 fingers 16:19 jordach look, no matter what I suggest, no matter HOW detailed I get (not in this case obviously), there is always SOMETHING you don't like about my suggestions. So why bother? 16:19 jordach that line was completely rubbish 16:19 jordach oh you. 16:21 VanessaE *sigh* 16:21 VanessaE he's starting to piss me off now. 16:21 jordach yep 16:21 jordach thats why im SILENT 16:21 jordach i watch, see click link, compile 16:22 jordach comment, if nessescary 16:22 OWNSyouAll make -j 999 cause fuck it 16:22 jordach OWNSyouAll, make -j 16:22 jin_xi as a matter of fact im making a j, yes ;) 16:23 jordach here 999 j's 16:23 jordach jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 16:23 jordach jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 16:23 jordach jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 16:23 jordach jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 16:23 jordach jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 16:23 OWNSyouAll inb4 jordach gets kicked 16:27 VanessaE THERE/ 16:27 VanessaE read that, jordach. 16:27 VanessaE damn it 16:45 Calinou tweaking grass/grass side/leaves color is P A I N F U L. 16:45 Calinou ._. 16:45 Calinou make -j 999 cause fuck it 16:45 Calinou make -j :p 17:06 * Calinou added support for junglegrass mod in misa pack 17:06 Calinou almost finished grass/leaves color tweaking 17:07 Calinou I don't want to do that again. ._. 17:10 VanessaE yay \o/ :-) 17:14 Calinou misa pack update get! 17:14 Calinou embrace yourselves - prepare for "THE NEW COLORS ARE FUGLY" posts 17:14 VanessaE linky? 17:14 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=274 17:14 Calinou still uploading the packs :P 17:15 VanessaE Merci. 17:16 * Calinou should add support for xpanes 17:16 * Calinou is tired 17:16 VanessaE don't forget cotton and unifieddyes ;-) 17:17 VanessaE by the way, 17:17 VanessaE what *exactly* is the status of the sponge and obsidian mods? 17:18 VanessaE (the last two in the list, which my tex packs also 'support') 17:23 Calinou these are pretty much dead; but the textures are still available 17:23 Calinou VanessaE> don't forget cotton and unifieddyes ;-) 17:23 VanessaE that's what I thought. 17:23 Calinou how many textures? :p 17:23 VanessaE Calinou: use gentextures.sh 17:24 Calinou yeah, I'll try later ;) going to dinner for now, bye 17:24 VanessaE 10 seconds from 2 textures to hundreds. :-) 17:24 VanessaE ok, ciao. 17:24 VanessaE (or should I say, chow?) 17:24 Calinou ciao not chow 17:24 VanessaE chow -> dinner :-) 17:24 * Calinou is now using his minetest wallpaper 17:24 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2432 < :) 19:06 rsiska hi. is the redcrab:30401 down? I haven't been able to connect for 5 days now, but forum looks, like nobody has problem. I'm confused 19:06 VanessaE rsiska: works for me. 19:06 * VanessaE looks around her house 19:07 rsiska could you please tell me, what version/build you have? 19:07 rsiska resp. did you update in the recent time? 19:08 VanessaE 0.4.1 linux AMD64 (built myself) 19:09 VanessaE the very latest git and daily builds don't work with most servers because the servers are out of date 19:09 VanessaE and latest git is not considered "stable" 19:11 rsiska I'll build 0.4 branch from git... 19:11 VanessaE don't 19:11 VanessaE get a 0.4.0 or 0.4.1 stable build 19:13 rsiska ok. thanks 19:24 rsiska didn't work... I'll have to investigate a bit more, I guess... 19:35 rsiska oh, nice! I set up verbose and noticed, that the game resolves redcrab.sure.net on different IP! (66.114.124.140) 19:35 rsiska With real IP it works, of course. I have no idea, why does it resolve badly :D 19:37 rsiska ah, it's because I'm idiot. problem saved. sorry for spamming this board :D 20:11 VanessaE hey cn 21:02 sfan5 lol http://imgur.com/gallery/pzKJb 21:06 VanessaE heh 21:47 jin_xi vanessa, can you please move http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2367 to old mods? thanks 21:47 VanessaE moved. :-) 21:48 jin_xi thanks. done a complete rewrite and will make new topic soon. 21:48 VanessaE ah, ok 21:55 VanessaE you know, there is a separate "pigments" item in the craft chain in unifieddyes now. Maybe you could use those to directly mix "paint" for your paintings mod 21:56 VanessaE make them into something that would require fewer resources overall to create a painting 21:58 VanessaE (like one blob of red pigment + some other ingredient = 5 pixels or something) 22:00 VanessaE is it possible to read a user' 22:01 VanessaE is it possible to read a user's inventory and see if they have a particular item on hand? 22:02 VanessaE jin_xi: ^^ 22:02 VanessaE I'm thinking mix a few of the pigment powders together to make the 17 base colors, and use those directly like watercolors, as long as the user has a bucket of water in their inventory. 22:11 khonkhortisan what about when buckets are banned? 22:12 VanessaE dunno then.. have the admin give you a block of water? :-) 22:13 VanessaE with the rollback mod c55 just added, banning buckets is kinda pointless. 22:20 khonkhortisan how do I restart make? make clean doesn't work 22:21 VanessaE good question; make distclean? 22:22 jin_xi vanessa: get_wielded_item():get_name() 22:23 VanessaE nono, not wielding it - just having it in your inventory somewhere. 22:23 VanessaE (because obviously you'll need to wield a paintbrush :-) ) 22:25 bas080 If I would want to make a tool that performs certain action when i hit a node. where you should this code be placed? is minetest.register_on_punchnode(...) good enough?? If so, how do i get the tool i am wielding? Or is there a special on hit function for tools which is defined in the tools registration? 22:25 khonkhortisan is it based on the node you punch or the tool doing the punching? 22:26 FreeFull Maybe both 22:28 bas080 Both. trying to make a farming mod... So basicly making the hoe function. 22:28 bas080 Shoul;d only work on dirt and dirt with grass blocks 22:29 khonkhortisan so you turn it into farming:dirt_hoed? 22:30 khonkhortisan haha my client turned that into a smiley face 22:30 bas080 lol. that's the idea. 22:30 bas080 and there should be tool wear and tear 22:30 jin_xi do it in your nodes on_punch 22:31 khonkhortisan to put it in the node you'd have to redefine dirt 22:31 jin_xi oh 22:32 khonkhortisan it can be done, you'd just have to make sure you didn't lose any variables/functions the dirt already has 22:36 bas080 copy paste the dirt node... Not my most favorite thing to do. But it would be the most efficient for the game i guess... but what function reduces the tool hp? 22:37 khonkhortisan uses=10 22:38 khonkhortisan doc/lua_api,txt line 505 22:38 khonkhortisan ,->. 22:47 khonkhortisan dirt = minetest.env:registered_items['default:dirt'] minetest.register_node(':default:dirt', { description = dirt.description, groups = dirt.groups, sounds = dirt.sounds... 22:54 bas080 But ok. then i have the on_dig event in the dirt node but i can still not check if dug with hoe.. how can i do that? 23:30 VanessaE zzz 23:34 jordan4ibanez this freakin train mod is AWESOME! 23:34 jordan4ibanez someone add onto it and give it a train "skin" or whatever it's called 23:35 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2451 23:44 jin_xi thinking about painting ui 23:45 jin_xi i'd like to give access to colors like hotbar 23:45 jin_xi ideas anyone? 23:47 VanessaE not sure 23:47 VanessaE is it possible to create a color wheel? 23:48 jin_xi from textures? 23:48 VanessaE well I was thinking more like inventory spots, but only a circle of them, one each with a color swatch 23:49 VanessaE hm, seeing a pretty clear performance issue with 0.4.1 (wonder if it's since been fixed?) 23:49 jin_xi my thoughts so far: craft palette from 8 dyes. wield palette -> colors hotbar 23:49 jin_xi but where you put the brush :) 23:50 VanessaE um..... 23:50 VanessaE detect the presence of the palette in the inventory - if it exists, give the user a brush? 23:53 jin_xi hmm, you craft palette and get brush? idk 23:53 VanessaE you get both, but can only wield the brush maybe? 23:53 VanessaE no, that won't work 23:53 jin_xi also i wonder if i should store palette with pic and use indexed colors 23:54 jin_xi or if i should allow all colors on all pics 23:54 VanessaE definitely all colors. 23:55 VanessaE then again there are "only" 89 colors, so it's not like indexing would lose anything 23:55 jin_xi i dislike naming my one pixel textures 1.png and so on, but it would really shorten the image string. i wonder if thats an issue 23:55 VanessaE can you alias them somehow? 23:56 VanessaE or ... 23:56 VanessaE hmm 23:57 jin_xi brush would be nice to have as in a tool which never digs the canvas 23:57 VanessaE right 23:57 jin_xi need left hand 23:57 VanessaE exactly my thought 23:57 VanessaE ? 23:58 jin_xi on a side node, i started reading pil book. i think its really good. 23:58 jin_xi very concise