Time Nick Message 00:05 cy1 VanessaE: just use my fork :D 00:05 cy1 lol 00:05 VanessaE why? 00:05 cy1 b/c I'm not in absentia 00:06 VanessaE too many forks, I get confused as to whose does what 00:06 cy1 and git is awesome about forks 00:06 cy1 they're all the same thing just different people's versions of it 00:06 cy1 anyway I can make fixes maybe and c55 can pull them later 00:06 cy1 and throw away all my hard earned PGP stuff too 00:07 cy1 the question is not which fork is official. the question is which fork is some masochist compiling to work in windows 00:08 marktraceur cy1: PGP is nice, but probably not for hop-on-hop-off-style games 00:09 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/148 00:09 VanessaE there. 00:12 cy1 VanessaE: fixed 00:12 cy1 xD 00:12 VanessaE fixed? 00:12 marktraceur WHOOSH 00:13 VanessaE heh 00:13 marktraceur Look, over there! It's some guy coding! No, it's some other guy coding! NOPE, IT'S CY1! 00:13 marktraceur ....that's really not very suspenseful. 00:13 * marktraceur goes back to human coding 00:14 VanessaE damn you're quick. 00:16 VanessaE + if purging == true then 00:16 VanessaE 10 00:16 VanessaE + error("stupid programmer wants the last spot in line.") 00:16 VanessaE 11 00:16 VanessaE + end 00:16 VanessaE haha 00:19 * marktraceur nods solemnly 00:19 VanessaE think you can fix the other current bugs? :-) 00:21 khonkhortisan I don't think I can make a sundial 00:22 VanessaE you can, but the shadows won't follow the sun I don't think :-) 00:24 VanessaE besides, there's no inclination to the sun's path through the sky, so a sundial would have to be built kinda weird (with an elevated, horizontal element to cast the shadow) 00:24 khonkhortisan just build it on the edge of the world 00:24 VanessaE (or if you prefer, it has an inclination of 0 degrees :-) ) 00:25 khonkhortisan as compared to null, nil, nan, inf... 00:25 khonkhortisan or rad 00:25 VanessaE greetz, cisoun. 00:26 cisoun sup 00:27 VanessaE cy1: *poke* 00:28 khonkhortisan error: unknown problem with network: Your poke was not delivered. Possible loss of finger(s) in-transit. 00:29 VanessaE haha 00:29 cisoun lol 00:30 cy1 so pistons can only push one block... so how to make a movable door two blocks wide... 00:31 cy1 if only they could pull 00:31 cy1 sticky pistons? 00:31 khonkhortisan sticky piston on both sides 00:31 khonkhortisan mesecons 00:31 khonkhortisan 4 junglegrass = glue 00:31 khonkhortisan be careful with pistons pushing pistons 00:34 VanessaE cy1: feel like attacking this one? 00:34 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/144 00:34 VanessaE the workaround for this causes the bug you just fixed ;-) 00:37 marktraceur Alllll righty then 00:37 marktraceur Trapping mod 00:37 VanessaE ? 00:37 marktraceur VanessaE: Kill me some rabbits for me dinner 00:38 VanessaE heh 00:38 marktraceur Big ol' spiky traps an' all 00:38 marktraceur But first, a test run of the rafting mod 00:38 VanessaE bobblocks has something like that 00:39 marktraceur VanessaE: Nope, darkrose was kind enough to link me to hers 00:39 VanessaE dunno if they'll activate in the presence of a mob (e.g. animals) but they will harm/kill the player. 00:52 NakedFury so is the raft moving smoothly? 00:52 NakedFury as if it was another player? 00:52 marktraceur Not even close 00:52 khonkhortisan is this it? https://github.com/darkrose/minetest_mods/tree/master/raft 00:53 marktraceur Yes 00:53 marktraceur It's one node at a time 00:53 khonkhortisan took me a while to find it 00:53 marktraceur Which isn't perfect, but meh 00:53 NakedFury it needs new code into the source to move smoothly 00:54 NakedFury doing it lua would be like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S0XhAT64Ug 00:55 NakedFury sry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S0XhAT64Ug 00:57 VanessaE does anyone have the patch that fixes the (ridiculously small) font size for player names? 00:58 cy1 yeaaaaah sticky pistons 01:01 marktraceur NakedFury: I would be happy with that 01:01 marktraceur This is only one node, as far as I've tested 01:02 marktraceur Yeah, one node 01:02 marktraceur Needs some work, but it's a good start 01:03 VanessaE nevermind, I found it. 01:05 NakedFury so do you think it will ever come to a point of smooth super smooth navigating? 01:05 marktraceur NakedFury: Currently, there's a trade-off to be made: Customizable boats, or smooth navigation 01:05 marktraceur I want to carry chests and shit on my boat 01:06 marktraceur So smoothness loses if I make the mod 01:08 NakedFury so a train to use with rails could work well? 01:09 NakedFury when I say smooth I use minecraft boats and minecarts as comparisons 01:16 marktraceur NakedFury: Right now, that's impossible, unless I misunderstand something in the code 01:20 VanessaE looks like gameboom is down :( 01:21 VanessaE (maybe someone shut it down to stop the griefing from getting any worse) 01:22 khonkhortisan how do I use the raft? 01:22 khonkhortisan oh. My mod is slowing it down 01:24 khonkhortisan the raft needs some artwork 01:24 VanessaE ahaha had the address wrong, but it still doesn't work - their server version is too old :-) 01:36 NakedFury could this be possible in the future? its for mesecons 01:36 VanessaE what? 01:36 NakedFury http://imgur.com/DPUW5 01:36 NakedFury sry forgot link 01:36 VanessaE not a chance. 01:36 VanessaE well 01:36 VanessaE actually maybe 01:37 VanessaE but the total number of defined objects would increase geometrically. 01:37 NakedFury the mini tunnels would be created when the block is placed on top of the mesecon 01:38 VanessaE first you'd need one mesecon wire for every possible orientation. That would require 10 nodes (see my pipeworks mod). Then you'd need one copy of each for each type of node you want them to go "through" 01:38 VanessaE (where the node being passed through is just another nodebox as part of the mesecon wire node) 01:39 VanessaE so you'd probably need somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 or so total objects 01:39 VanessaE (10 plain, and 10 each passing through dirt, stone, glass, and maybe wood) 01:40 NakedFury would have been nice for a type = option that "cuts" the holes automaticly when placed on the object with this property 01:40 VanessaE that won't work 01:40 VanessaE it would require two nodes in the same node space. 01:41 VanessaE so the only way to do it is with nodeboxes and a shitload of textures that mimic the effect 01:41 VanessaE I mention my pipeworks mod because it contains enough nodes that, when combined with facedir, can connect any number of directions together, from any orientation to any other, including verticalds. 01:42 VanessaE verticals. 01:43 VanessaE the same method, by the way, would allow for the appearance of two different slabs in the same node space, by using specially-prepated textures on normal full 1x1x1 blocks, drawn to look like two different types of materials 01:44 NakedFury ok so for now it is very hard to do so 01:44 NakedFury an "easy" way would require extensive source code editing 01:45 VanessaE but that would require 3 textures for each combination, and there would be something like 12 or so combinations using just the materials that can currently be used for slabs 01:46 VanessaE (wood on stone, stone on wood, wood on cobble, cobble on wood, cobble on stone, stone on cobble, and continuing with brick, sandstone, and whatever else one wants to add) 01:47 NakedFury why so many textures? 01:48 VanessaE because you have N^2 possible combinations of N unique materials 01:48 VanessaE and you have to account for one material on the top half and one on the bottom half, and the inverse as well 01:49 VanessaE that means drawing a side texture for each possible combination (you could use the existing whole-node textures for top/bottom) 01:50 NakedFury http://imgur.com/UPax9 01:50 VanessaE nodeboxes can achieve that effect ^^ 01:51 VanessaE but again, you need lots of different nodes to account for every possible connection that could be made with 2 or more wires and every possible material that those wires should appear to pass through. 01:51 NakedFury that would need 5 different versions of each possible block 01:51 VanessaE 5? 01:52 VanessaE you need to be able to connect from any axis, any direction, to any other axis/axes, any direction(s). 01:52 VanessaE That needs 10 nodes just for the wires passing through air. 01:53 VanessaE facedir can be used to rotate them around as needed to cover all possible combinations of directions (my pipeworks does this) 01:53 NakedFury 7 not 5 01:53 VanessaE so 10 nodes passing through air, then you need 10 more that pass through say stone, another 10 for dirt, another 10 passing through glass, and so on for as many materials as you want the wires to pass through. 01:58 VanessaE 10. 2 straight sections: horizontal (X or Z) and vertical (Y). 3 bends: X/Z -> Y up, X/Z -> Y down, X -> Z. 3 T-junctions: X/Z to the middle of Y, and any two horizontals to a third two four-way junctions: X <-> Z, X/Z <-> Y. One 6-way junction (all three axes connected together) 01:59 VanessaE facedir to rotate them means any connection can be made from any number of any of the 6 directions to any others. 02:00 VanessaE mesecons would need the same thing, plus four more: the sloping ones. 02:01 VanessaE so that's 14 wire forms, multiplied by the total number of material types you want to give the appearance of passing through. 02:02 NakedFury first set of 7. remembered that I need for going up mesecons. 02:02 NakedFury http://imgur.com/hI4h4 02:02 VanessaE where are your T-junctions? 02:03 NakedFury yes missing some 02:03 NakedFury 8 with t and adding a going up to each one 02:03 VanessaE if you didn't have to account for verticals, you could do all this with just the usual 4, times however many materials you want to pass throguh. 02:04 VanessaE (remember, mesecons rotates them already, so one "curved" object covers those upper four corner objects you pictured) 02:04 VanessaE (one 3-way t-junction does the same, one vertical wire can also become horizontal, and a 4-way crossing of course doesn't need to rotate) 02:05 VanessaE s/vertical/north-south/; s/horizontal/east-west/ 02:08 VanessaE can you tell I already did all this before? ;-) 02:13 VanessaE I just realized, it would take more than 10 - you have to account for all four vertical sides for each object that can connect vertically. So that could expand to a hundred or more unique bjects 02:14 VanessaE objects* 02:14 VanessaE that is, unless you make the wires always enter/exit from the center of a face. 02:14 VanessaE like...wait for it...... 02:14 VanessaE ....... 02:14 VanessaE ......my pipeworks mod ;-) 02:17 * VanessaE pokes at NakedFury for signs of life 02:19 VanessaE then there's the secondary issue of how do decide whether two vertically-adjacent layers should electrically connect in the first place. 02:19 VanessaE (in other words, when to draw in the vertical Y wire that connects them and to treat them as such) 02:28 VanessaE in a schematic editor, this is usually done by explicitly ending a wire right in the middle of another and then starting a new one and continuing on from there 02:28 VanessaE (just drawing one wire, and then a second wire crossing over it, but not stopping on the other wire, usually results in the two not connecting) 02:30 NakedFury sry tv series Perception started today and got drawn in 02:33 NakedFury http://imgur.com/sUPG6 02:34 VanessaE no, you need one object for each combination of vertical legs 02:34 VanessaE as there are 4 verticals, that object needs 16 variations. 02:36 VanessaE (N/S/E/W, each could be vertical or not. 4 bits = 16 possibilities) 02:37 VanessaE a 3-way T junction would need 8 possibilities, a regular horizontal wire would need 4. 02:39 VanessaE plus you'd need 16 more for the little bits that can connect a top horizontal surface with an adjacent vertical (again, four faces to connect to = 16 possibilities) 02:40 VanessaE so that's 44 objects, and that's without making them pass through some solid material like dirt. 02:40 marktraceur VanessaE: I can see why you get errors alla time 02:40 VanessaE mark? 02:40 marktraceur You define a lot of things :) 02:41 VanessaE because I push the game to the design limits? ;-) 02:41 VanessaE OH, 02:42 VanessaE and you need 2 variants of each node, for powered and not-powered. 02:42 VanessaE so that's 88 objects just to run up/down/around solid nodes, without passing through the, 02:42 VanessaE them* 02:43 * marktraceur starts to wonder how much of this stuff could be handled by storing data per node 02:43 VanessaE dunno 02:43 marktraceur Binary switch for each node? Nah, let's just define double the amount of nodes. 02:44 VanessaE heh 02:44 VanessaE well minecraft does it by using greyscale textures and just colorizing them to indicate their power level. 02:44 VanessaE (I just read up on the subject) 02:44 marktraceur Like, "hey, how much storage do you need? 0? OK, awesome, no storage for you. 1 bit? Easy peasy. 4 bits? Have an integer." 02:45 VanessaE good luck getting c55 to accept the necessary patches - it won't be "interesting" ;-) 02:45 marktraceur What's the extra storage? Well, none of the default mod stuff will use it 02:45 marktraceur Dirt, stone, ores, all of that can be static 02:45 marktraceur Only crafted items will need this 02:46 marktraceur *maybe* cy1 decides to use it for wet dirt 02:46 marktraceur But even that isn't all that big 02:46 VanessaE I can think of one item the game should have for an added bit of realism: torches that eventually burn out and have to be collected and re-crafted with a new piece of coal to re-light them. 02:46 marktraceur Might be 02:46 VanessaE that would probably need the data storage you're talkign about 02:47 marktraceur But again, that's crafted 02:47 VanessaE yes 02:47 marktraceur So it would be relatively small 02:47 marktraceur Not like, ALL THE BLOCKS MUST NOW BE ONE BYTE LARGER 02:47 marktraceur No 02:47 marktraceur That would suck 02:47 marktraceur But let's think about this 02:47 VanessaE oh horrors. one byte larger ;-) 02:47 marktraceur You go to the absolute limite 02:47 marktraceur limits* 02:48 * marktraceur pull out a python prompt 02:49 marktraceur If all of the nodes had one extra byte, they would need 1906 extra terabytes 02:50 VanessaE yeah but how much space do they take now? :-) 02:50 marktraceur But of course that will never happen--someone doing 31000 in all directions 02:50 marktraceur So let's take my server, just as an example 02:50 marktraceur I'm at roughly -790, so let's make a safe call of 800 in all directions 02:51 marktraceur 32 extra gigabytes to give _all the nodes_ one extra byte 02:51 marktraceur And that was a liberal estimate 02:52 marktraceur Especially since most of those (over half) would be air, at least 75% of the remainder would be dirt or stone. 02:52 VanessaE well sure, but I'm guessing the game doesn't store every single node generated in the area 02:52 VanessaE (I would think it would only store the changes) 02:55 VanessaE "However, if the block on which the Redstone wire is placed becomes powered in any way, so does the Redstone wire. " 02:55 VanessaE ok, if we want to stick to redstone-style circuits, any mesecons wires that are adjacent in any direction must be treated as an electrical junction 02:56 VanessaE so vertical wires have to be drawn in that case 02:56 VanessaE (which is how they work now of course) 02:56 VanessaE (minus the vertical interconnects) 02:58 VanessaE wait, no.. 02:59 VanessaE "Redstone wire and signal strength 02:59 VanessaE Whether a block is weakly or normally (strongly) powered affects how Redstone wires interact with it. Blocks are strongly powered by Redstone power sources; torches (from below), repeaters, levers, pressure plates etc. If a block is powered only by Redstone wire then it is weakly powered. Redstone wire which is adjacent to, on top of, or below a block that is strongly powered will become active. It will not become active if tha 02:59 VanessaE t block is weakly powered. " 02:59 VanessaE mesecons presently act as if everything is "strongly" powered, right? 03:00 marktraceur Yeah, I believe so 03:00 VanessaE ok 03:01 VanessaE so if we ignore the strong/weak designation, then vertical wires must always be drawn between vertically-adjacent mesecons wires. 03:03 VanessaE personally I like the idea of having weak/strong levels, since it would allow for vertically-stacked wires that carry different signals, but then no vertical wires would be possible between vertically-adjacent nodes 03:04 VanessaE but it does mean denser circuits are possible. 03:08 VanessaE it's a trade-off I guess - more work to adapt the behavior of the mode means a generally better mod, but it would break existing circuits. 03:08 VanessaE s/mode/mod/ 03:10 VanessaE maybe it's better to deprecate all existing mesecons and just write a whole new mod from scratch, with new mod and node names. 03:10 NakedFury circuits could use a new setting option and not use rail like 03:11 VanessaE they wouldn't use raillike anymore - they'd have to use nodeboxes 03:11 NakedFury too much to draw and the code would be huge 03:11 VanessaE yup. 03:12 NakedFury and they still need a way to be used without needing too much space 03:12 VanessaE that's where one would have to implement strong/weak power 03:12 VanessaE this is all better suited for a new mod 03:13 VanessaE new crafting recipes, the whole bit (that way old mesecons could still be used alongside) 03:14 NakedFury http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5dfoMVzAs&feature=related 03:14 NakedFury that video shows a keycode door for minecraft using redstone 03:14 NakedFury at the middle he starts showing how he made it 03:15 NakedFury that cant be used in the game because it takes a stupid huge amount of space 03:15 NakedFury there has to be a way to create that with maybe half or less the space it uses 03:18 NakedFury there are many cool things that can be made with mesecons/redstone but the space needed for them makes them sort of useless in multiplayer. secret base with secret door? hard since the door would take a lot of space making it easier for landmine types to find it 03:18 VanessaE part of the problem is the guy's using decimal to set the code instead of octal 03:18 NakedFury same deal, huge contraption 03:19 VanessaE yeah but with octal, it could just be made with a shitload of AND gates. 03:21 NakedFury http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gTokclW25s&feature=player_embedded 03:22 NakedFury shows a super amazing secret base where alamost everything is automated with redstones 03:24 NakedFury if you made that in minetest you would need a huge amount of game world protected 03:27 VanessaE indeed it would be huge 03:28 NakedFury even making something simple as 2 normal doors opening with a button push takes space 03:29 NakedFury mostly possible basement space directly below normal floor 03:29 VanessaE naw, it's simpler than you think 03:29 VanessaE button wire 03:29 VanessaE piston piston 03:29 NakedFury http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuPRnmNBh-M&feature=related 03:29 VanessaE (assuming the pistons point toward the bottom of the screen in this case) 03:30 NakedFury I meant double doors like when you go to shopping mall the open as you approach 03:30 VanessaE right 03:30 VanessaE doors aren't mesecons-activated at all in minetest are they? 03:31 NakedFury dont know 03:58 VanessaE doors are not responsive to mesecons signals. 04:04 VanessaE also just checked, mesecons try to connect vertical layers together when placed, they just lack straight vertical wires 04:05 VanessaE (so they are electrically connected, they're just a little vague about it) 04:06 VanessaE I figured that was the case, just had to check it. 04:22 khonkhortisan how do I craft/use the furnace without losing my infinite supplies? 04:22 NakedFury you dont, if the suplies are infinite then you dont lose them 04:25 VanessaE since you're in creative mode, just /giveme default:furnace or whatever :-) 04:28 khonkhortisan I guess I have to actually chase out the Segmentation fault then 04:41 VanessaE night all 04:44 khonkhortisan I dropped some of that rotating wood and it slid away 05:12 khonkhortisan the bow mod is cool 05:21 khonkhortisan newbie question: what server should I join? 05:21 marktraceur khonkhortisan: All the servers! 05:22 marktraceur khonkhortisan: What are you looking for in a server? 05:22 khonkhortisan other people 05:23 khonkhortisan I haven't found anyone online yet, but I've seen impressive maps 05:23 marktraceur thexyz has a big server, minetest.ru port 30001 05:23 marktraceur Gameboom is also pretty populated, join #gameboom for that 05:43 Ririshi Hey guys 05:45 marktraceur Ririshi: Hi! How goes? 07:18 T_A_N_K blokkeren 07:18 T_A_N_K ooops 09:12 emspri brobostigon is homedecore installed ?? 09:12 Calinou no 09:32 brobostigon good morning everyone. 09:43 ChatHeure Hi ! 09:43 Calinou hi 09:43 Calinou frenchie :P 09:44 ChatHeure moi aussi ^^ 09:45 ChatHeure Le wiki n'a pas de module de traduction comme sur le wiki d'OpenStreetMap, c'est dommage... 09:45 Calinou le wiki officiel http://wiki.minetest.com? 09:45 Calinou non, pas d'interwiki/etc pour le moment 09:46 Calinou le problème, c'est qu'il faut du monde pour traduire le wiki 09:46 Calinou pour le moment, la seule personne intéressée serait moi ^^ 09:46 Calinou en plus je travaille déjà sur une traduction de la doc de l'API lua pour les mods 09:46 Calinou (j'en suis à 40%) 09:48 ChatHeure Ah ok, moi j'aimerai participer, mais ce serait ponctuellement malheureusement... 09:48 ChatHeure Mais je pense que ce serait plus engageant si tout était en place ! 09:48 Calinou on pourrait faire un système similaire à celui du wiki de debian: 09:49 Calinou sur la page d'accueil du wiki on peut choisir une langue. 09:49 Calinou et les liens pointent vers des versions françaises, qui serait nommés par exemple: Cobblestone/fr 09:49 Calinou et on mettrait une catégorie "français" 09:50 ChatHeure Oui, je ne me souviens plus du Wiki de Debian, mais apparemment, c'est comme celui D'OSM 09:50 ChatHeure Peut-être plus pratique celui de Debian 09:51 * Calinou utilise debian testing dans une machine virtuelle 09:51 Calinou en remerciant windows 7 pour l'UEFI 09:51 ChatHeure Sur OSM on démarre forcément sur une page EN, je crois 09:51 Calinou :c 09:51 Calinou oui, mais après les gens sont pas (si) bêtes; ils vont voir qu'il y a un lien pour aller sur la page en français 09:51 ChatHeure l'UEFI ? c'est l'EFIBIOS ? 09:52 Calinou UEFI = "unified" extensible firmware interface 09:52 ChatHeure Calinou: oui, on s'y fait vite :) En plus, on bascule assez facilement de l'un à l'autre pour vérifier les traduction 09:52 ChatHeure s 09:52 Calinou en gros, un truc de microsoft pour améliorer leur satanisme 09:53 oerkii hello 09:53 ChatHeure unified ? :D 09:53 Calinou j'ai rien contre une machine virtuelle, j'ai un bon ordi... 09:53 Calinou oerkii, hi monster 09:53 Calinou :P 09:53 ChatHeure Ah, ben oui, avant il y avait différent bios ^^ 09:53 Calinou it's oerkki not oerkii 09:53 oerkii :D 09:53 ChatHeure lu oerkii 09:53 oerkii i'm having problems with MineTest 09:54 Calinou what problems? 09:54 oerkii the default textures aren't loading correctly 09:55 oerkii i checked in the .conf file to see what's happening and tried to change some lines but didn't work 09:55 Calinou enable_texture_atlas = false 09:55 Calinou (uncomment the line first) 09:56 oerkii i'll do that and i'll tell you 09:56 ChatHeure C'est moi ou le wiki a méchament évolué en quelques jours !!? (O_o) 09:56 ChatHeure Je suis en train de me demander si je regardais le bon wiki avant... 09:57 Calinou ChatHeure, oui 09:57 Calinou nouveau template de crafting 09:57 Calinou je suis co-admin sur le wiki au fait ^^ 09:57 ChatHeure ah ok ^^ 09:57 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting 09:57 Calinou todo: traductions, plus de documentation sur les mods 09:57 ChatHeure super :) 09:58 ChatHeure et le nyancat, il est par défaut dans la 0.3 ? 09:58 ChatHeure je ne l'ai jamais vu encore... (je joue en local) 09:59 emspri Calinou do you know how to make mossy cobble stone 09:59 emspri ?? 09:59 Calinou no, you can't 09:59 emspri ow ok 09:59 Calinou however, the more blocks mod lets you craft mossy cobble 10:00 Calinou ChatHeure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084197/ 10:00 Calinou ^ structure prévue pour la doc des mods 10:00 Calinou ChatHeure, oui, il y a des nyancats très très rares dans la 0.3 et la 0.4 10:01 oerkii hey, didn't work 10:02 ChatHeure ah ok, j'ai pas beaucoup joué pour l'instant, c'est pour ça... 10:02 emspri is the moreblocks installed now ?? 10:02 ChatHeure Tout le monde parle de Minecraft et je ne connaissais pas, donc j'ai installé Minetest pour me donner une idée :D 10:03 Calinou emspri, no 10:03 Calinou not on brobostigon's server 10:03 Calinou ChatHeure, je joue à minecraft et à minetest ^^ 10:03 Calinou au fait tu peux essayer la dernière 0.4; plus de fonctionnalités 10:03 Calinou (git/nightly) 10:03 ChatHeure Je voulais voir (Terrasology?), mais il n'est pas présent dans les dépôt Ubuntu, alors j'ai pris Minetest 10:04 brobostigon emspri: ok, put a page on my wiki, and add a list of things i need to do, please. things are busy, and need some planning, please. 10:05 ChatHeure Calinou: oui, j'ai vu que pour jouer en ligne, tout le monde prend la 0.4 10:05 emspri ok 10:06 ChatHeure Calinou: et tu répond sur #minetest-fr aussi ? 10:06 ChatHeure *s 10:07 ChatHeure Ah ben non, il n'y a personne ^^ 10:08 Calinou personne 10:08 Calinou j'ai enregistré le channel mais y a personne 10:08 Calinou minetest n'est pas assez populaire ^^ 10:08 brobostigon emspri: then send me a link to it, please. 10:08 ChatHeure ^^ 10:09 Calinou ChatHeure> Je voulais voir (Terrasology?), mais il n'est pas présent dans les dépôt Ubuntu, alors j'ai pris Minetest 10:09 ChatHeure Et toi qui joue au 2, tu préfères quoi dans chacun ? 10:09 Calinou lol, ubuntu :P 10:09 Calinou au fait: mieux vaut compiler soi même 10:09 Calinou les dépots sont souvent pas à jour, ou encore pire 10:09 Calinou minecraft: plus "fini", mobs, etc 10:09 Calinou minetest: modding, plus léger :D 10:09 ChatHeure Calinou: oui, mais je ne suis sur Linux et kfreebsd que depuis peu... 10:10 Calinou freebsd, pheh 10:10 ChatHeure Ubuntu, je l'ai installé pour ma copine, et moi je teste Squeeze en kfreebsd 10:10 Calinou linux > n'importe quel autre unix 10:11 ChatHeure donc compiler les sources, je serais forcé d'y passer ^^ 10:11 ChatHeure troll :P 10:11 Calinou :P 10:11 ChatHeure ^^ 10:11 Calinou ubuntu ça pue depuis la 11.10... c'est pour ça, j'ai switché vers debian testing 10:12 Calinou testing a l'avantage d'être en rolling-release (si tu édites /etc/apt/sources.list en remplaçant "wheezy" par "testing" évidemment) 10:12 Calinou et les paquets sont mis à jour 10:12 ChatHeure Calinou: je l'ai installé en natty, puis je suis passé en Oneiric et enfin en Precise 10:13 Calinou natty = ok, oneiric = unity, precise = wifi buggé 10:13 ChatHeure ah ok, faudra que je me penche sur ça 10:13 ChatHeure precise = wifi buggé ??? 10:13 Calinou j'ai installé testing directement perso... avec le netinst amd64 10:14 Calinou oui, beaucoup de gens se plaignent que le wifi se déconnecte de façon intempestive 10:14 ChatHeure Calinou: Ah ok, pas eu ce problème et je suis en wifi avec une carte Asus un peu pérave pourtant... 10:16 ChatHeure Sur Debian, je me suis mis IceWeasel car il conserve la fonctionnalité pour les moteur de recherche, mais il est très en retard... je me demande si il est toujours mis à jour.... 10:16 Calinou lol sur le wiki: 10:16 Calinou (diff | hist) . . Stone‎; 13:48 . . (+777) . . Calinou (Talk | contribs | block)‎ (Undo revision 2009 by 128.208.2.82 (talk)) [rollback] 10:16 ChatHeure il est au niveau de Firefox 3.5 10:16 Calinou 777 10:16 Calinou chromium > chrome > firefox > IE 10:17 ChatHeure peut-être mais je suis fidèle à Gecko :P 10:18 ChatHeure Tu as eu le jackpot ? ^^ 10:19 ChatHeure oups, déjà + de midi ! je file ! 10:19 Calinou ++ bon app 10:19 ChatHeure Bye, à bientôt certainement ;) 10:19 ChatHeure merci, toi aussi 15:48 marktraceur Protip: Circles are hard. Spheres are even harder. 15:52 NakedFury are you making a circle structure in game? 15:52 marktraceur NakedFury: A sphere structure, actually 15:52 marktraceur In a few minutes I'll have a map 15:56 FreeFull Disks are easy, circle outlines are harder 15:56 FreeFull discs* 15:57 marktraceur Well, it's definitely an outline 15:57 marktraceur http://marktraceur.info/shared/images/minetest/map.png 15:57 marktraceur There's a cross shape on the left, with some outline of circle 15:59 * darkrose notices a circular fountain :p 16:00 marktraceur darkrose: It is pretty awesome! :) 16:00 marktraceur Spheres are t3h hard, though, is my point 16:02 * darkrose would probably start with 3 circles, then fill it in till pissed off... do something else... try again 16:02 marktraceur darkrose: Basically, yes. 16:05 NakedFury marktraceur: use this links for your circle related projects: http://www.plotz.co.uk/ http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8838/eb7w50.png 16:08 Calinou nice 16:08 darkrose build a dirt cube, detonate tnt in the middle, fill with cobble, remove dirt = sphere 16:09 marktraceur NakedFury: Not helpful for sphere 16:09 marktraceur darkrose: Do not has TNT 16:09 Calinou or use gimp 16:09 NakedFury lies! 16:09 Calinou worldedit has a /sphere tool, no? 16:09 NakedFury the first link works perfect 16:09 NakedFury http://www.plotz.co.uk/ 16:09 marktraceur Calinou: Yeah, if you wanted to cheat.... 16:10 marktraceur NakedFury: Oh, sorry, forgot there were two 16:10 marktraceur NakedFury: Flash. 16:10 NakedFury that link is interactive 16:10 marktraceur I'll just do the math 16:10 NakedFury linux cant have flash? 16:11 marktraceur NakedFury: It can, but I try to avoid supporting stupid, outdated formats 16:11 marktraceur Forget non-free, this is a question of it being totally useless in comparison with others 16:12 NakedFury what diameter you need? 16:12 marktraceur NakedFury: That's not how it works 16:20 Calinou flash is stupid, +1 16:20 Calinou (and non-free, yes) 16:42 marktraceur NakedFury: Maybe tonight I will whip up a free shape-plotter for minetest 17:50 NakedFury gonna play some minetest 17:51 Calinou :D 17:54 marktraceur NakedFury: Good plan! 17:54 Calinou what server? 17:55 NakedFury well I have cy server since I lost my file with the others 17:55 Calinou "lost my file" ??? 17:55 NakedFury I had a txt with marks server and a few others 17:57 marktraceur NakedFury: marktraceur.info port 30000 17:58 NakedFury thanks will enter once I set up my controller 17:58 marktraceur *nod* K 18:12 NakedFury controller working 18:12 NakedFury playing now 18:12 marktraceur Welcome! 18:12 NakedFury ok I need to ask why is there so much shrubs? 18:12 marktraceur NakedFury: Bug in the code 18:13 marktraceur I have to fix that tonight 18:13 marktraceur er.... 18:13 marktraceur Maybe tomorrow 18:14 NakedFury you might want to add to the jungle grass the option to not build from it 18:15 marktraceur NakedFury: You mean not allowing place-on-junglegrass? 18:15 NakedFury yeah 18:15 NakedFury I can do that now 18:15 marktraceur OK 18:20 jordach hello PEOPLE, IM BACK 18:20 NakedFury hi 18:21 * jordach feels out of place already 18:21 * Calinou is still banned 18:22 NakedFury from where? 18:23 Calinou mark's server 18:23 Calinou c55 18:23 Calinou Y U NO ADD BAN REASONS? 18:23 Calinou :< I feel like I got an iptables ban, because I stay stuck at "connecting to server" 18:24 marktraceur Calinou: You just got a normal ban 18:24 marktraceur Reason: You've been a dick to me far too often 18:25 jordach marktraceur, thanks, i pointed this out long ago 18:26 marktraceur *nod* this is not to say that he's beyond redemption, I firmly believe in second chances, but he hasn't taken it just yet 18:26 VanessaE jeez, did I walk into a hornet's nest or something? 18:26 Calinou hi VanessaE 18:27 VanessaE hi all 18:27 jordach VanessaE, im back from my 2 days on a theme park trip 18:27 VanessaE cool, jordach 18:28 jordach HEY EVERYONE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=30618#p30618 CHECK ME POSTS 18:28 Anelisa salut ! :) 18:28 marktraceur Anelisa: Salut! How goes? :) 18:28 VanessaE jeez 18:28 VanessaE you're a postin' fool :-) 18:29 Calinou hi Anelisa 18:29 VanessaE hi Anelisa 18:29 Anelisa ^^ 18:29 Anelisa marktraceur, i'm fine. 18:29 marktraceur Anelisa: Good to hear. Are you new hereabouts? 18:30 Anelisa Just a little bit, i have join the community of Minetest 1 week ! ^^' 18:31 Anelisa sorry for my verry bad english but i try to write the best i can, beceause i'm french... ;o; 18:31 VanessaE seems readable to me :-) 18:31 Calinou rule 0 of the internet: never say you're french or russian 18:31 Calinou both lead to carnage 18:31 marktraceur Oh, I dunno 18:32 jordach Calinou, no, 18:32 Anelisa why never saying ? 18:32 marktraceur Anelisa: Your English is rather good 18:32 Anelisa thanks 18:32 marktraceur Anelisa: Rule 0 of this IRC, coincidentally, is "Calinou lies a lot, don't listen to him" 18:32 Anelisa But you can see, may be you don't understand... x) 18:32 * Calinou is french, and he has a better english than Anelisa 18:33 Anelisa lol 18:33 marktraceur Calinou: Here's a cookie 18:33 Calinou no, I want a cake. 18:33 Anelisa OKay, take the cake 18:33 Anelisa xDD 18:33 marktraceur Calinou: You didn't do anything to merit even a cookie! 18:34 Anelisa *in the head of Calinou it's the cake* 18:34 VanessaE oh he takes the cake all right. 18:34 VanessaE ;) 18:34 Anelisa lol 18:34 Anelisa We have a lovely server ? I cherch one. 18:35 VanessaE cherch -> am searching for 18:35 Anelisa thanks, and not grief ! ;) 18:35 NakedFury marktraceur.info port 30000 18:35 marktraceur Hmm 18:36 Anelisa okay i try 18:36 marktraceur I'd need to hop on and give build privileges 18:36 NakedFury what is the flourecent green shrubs that grow in the server? they dont have names 18:36 marktraceur NakedFury: tallgrass 18:36 Anelisa don't work... 18:36 marktraceur I'll add names....sometime 18:36 marktraceur Anelisa: You need to set a password 18:37 darkrose tallgrass, also known as 'annoying plant #2' 18:37 Anelisa A minute... 18:37 Calinou lol darkrose 18:37 Calinou what's #1 18:37 VanessaE ok I'll bite... 18:37 Anelisa I have write my password !! 18:37 * Calinou bites VanessaE 18:37 marktraceur Calinou: Junglesgrass 18:37 darkrose jungle grass is #1 18:37 VanessaE looks like junglegrass to me 18:38 Calinou it isn't generated in 0.4 18:38 marktraceur VanessaE: It basically is. 18:38 Calinou except due to VanessaE's mod :P 18:38 VanessaE looks like MY mod in fact 18:38 * Anelisa understand nothing now ! >__< 18:38 Calinou in moreblocks, junglegrass lets you craft grass blocks or mossy cobble 18:38 Calinou (or you can use mese as a remplacement) 18:38 VanessaE holy crap 18:38 Calinou replacement* 18:38 VanessaE mark, your copy is out of date :-) 18:38 marktraceur VanessaE: I know....I've been lazy for a day, and it will go on until at least tonight 18:38 VanessaE I already added the radius limit to keep the density under control ;-) 18:38 Anelisa marktracteur.info it's taht's marktracteur ?? 18:39 Anelisa sorry, that's 18:39 VanessaE how long did you leave this running? :-) 18:39 NakedFury weird. if I look towards vanessas name in the game my FPS lowers to 10 18:39 Calinou > lots of terrain to draw, it isn't VanessaE's fault 18:40 marktraceur Anelisa: marktraceur.info 18:40 Anelisa oh, okay 18:40 VanessaE no, see? I'm just that important - the server dedicates more resources to rendering my name ;-) 18:40 marktraceur Anelisa: "traceur", c'est francais! 18:40 Calinou :} 18:41 Anelisa beceause tracteur it's a french word ! lol 18:41 Calinou traceur = "parkourer" iirc 18:41 marktraceur Calinou: Well, in very crude terms 18:41 Calinou crudism FTW 18:41 marktraceur You would say that 18:41 Calinou "you don't say?" 18:41 VanessaE *looks around the landscape* 18:42 VanessaE damn, I never knew my mod would dump so much grass all over :-) 18:42 marktraceur VanessaE: Yeah. 18:42 marktraceur I'll fix it, not to worry 18:42 jordach VanessaE, my wool flower has the same bug, abms suck for spawning 18:42 marktraceur Also, cy1's fire solved a large portion of the problem 18:43 * marktraceur is considering setting huge fires 18:43 darkrose NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooo! 18:43 marktraceur Anelisa: You don't have build privs 18:43 marktraceur darkrose: I'm on another continent! 18:43 Calinou marktraceur, btw, with your more ores improvements, people said their ores turned into unknown nodes 18:43 Calinou this has not happened to me. 18:43 marktraceur Calinou: I've seen 18:43 Anelisa oh can i have, marktraceur ? 18:43 darkrose oh, well sure, set fire to other continents! 18:43 marktraceur Anelisa: 18:43 marktraceur Yes 18:43 VanessaE jordach: there's a built-in function that you can use to check the surroundings of a given node - check for more of the same in say a radius of 10 or 15. 18:43 Anelisa thanks !! 18:43 Calinou I included and pushed your latest moreores improvements btw 18:43 VanessaE if found, don't spawn. 18:44 VanessaE if not found, spawn 18:44 VanessaE whether found or not, allow the plants to grow too. 18:44 jordach VanessaE, FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK 18:44 VanessaE that's how the current version of junglegrass works. 18:44 VanessaE what what what what what what> 18:45 jordach okay, i just made a checkerboard texture pack for 0.3 18:45 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=30606#p30606 18:45 Calinou -_- 18:45 Calinou THIS IS NOT A SERVER 18:45 Calinou reporting 18:45 VanessaE 0.3? bleah 18:46 jordach oh, btw: mod on the way bridging 0.4 abd 0.3 for etxture alliance 18:47 VanessaE symlinks ftw ;-) 18:48 Anelisa ... 18:48 marktraceur Anelisa: You cannot fly because fly is disabled on this server 18:48 jordach hm 18:49 Anelisa marktraceur, oh... okay. ;o; 18:49 Calinou marktraceur, hacks FTW 18:49 Calinou there is no anticheat about flying, only about going too fast :D 18:49 Calinou (plus, you can go very fast downwards) 18:50 marktraceur Calinou: And if I find out someone uses that unduly, I will ban them. *That* is my anticheat. 18:50 jordach Calinou, found a way to detect freecam 18:50 Calinou :} yeah 18:51 Calinou cheaters are very rare on minetest 18:51 jordach [land][mine] 18:51 Anelisa Calinou, comment je fait pour mettre des mods en singleplayer ? 18:52 emspri VanessaE are you brave enough to test my labyrint ?? :D 18:52 VanessaE odd, I just saw some of that neon green grass... 18:52 VanessaE then it disappeared. 18:52 emspri brobostigon my sis wants to build a swiming pool somewhere (dont know the name of it) 18:53 VanessaE I'll pass, emspri :-) 18:53 emspri VanessaE : my labyrint is in my piramide 18:53 Calinou Anelisa, tu mets les dossiers des mods dans mods/minetest 18:54 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084981/ 18:54 Calinou (structure) 18:55 Anelisa je trouve pas le dossier... 18:55 emspri bro are you here ?? 18:59 VanessaE I see moreores is installed on this server. good. homedecor would benefit from it ;-) 19:00 marktraceur Oh my gods, can we please learn to highlight? brobostigon, emspri wants you 19:00 marktraceur emspri: You have been on and off here for far too long to not know how to look up whether someone is online, and _much_ too long to still expect immediate responses. 19:01 marktraceur emspri: Please use /whois to find someone's state, /msg for private messaging, and don't ask to ask a question. 19:01 emspri ok 19:01 MiJyn marktraceur, can I please ask to ask a question? 19:01 MiJyn :P 19:01 * marktraceur sighs 19:01 marktraceur Advice, not taken 19:01 MiJyn nope xD 19:04 VanessaE could be worse, mark..... 19:04 VanessaE it could be noob you're dealing with 19:04 VanessaE :) 19:05 marktraceur I don't mind talking to people 19:05 marktraceur I mind it when people don't listen 19:05 Anelisa i cherch a another server. 19:05 VanessaE even when they spew insults at you and warn you to shut up? ;-) 19:06 marktraceur Anelisa: #gameboom is also a good spot for finding a server 19:06 marktraceur VanessaE: At least he was honest; I can deal with that 19:06 VanessaE gameboom's server is outdated - doesn't work with clients using the latest git 19:06 marktraceur My intent later in that conversation was to get him to be contrite; it didn't work 19:06 Anelisa marktraceur, and he's say what ? in the canal. 19:07 VanessaE marktraceur: so what IS this neon green stuff for anyway? :-) 19:10 marktraceur VanessaE: It's like junglegrass, I suppose. Farming uses it. 19:10 marktraceur If you harvest junglegrass, or tallgrass, it gives you seeds 19:10 VanessaE ahhh 19:11 VanessaE obviously acquiring seeds in this present state is... well covered. ;-) 19:11 Anelisa . 19:12 marktraceur Yuuup 19:12 marktraceur I've definitely fulfilled that need 19:12 VanessaE hehhe 19:12 marktraceur Though I can see a future where I need more 19:12 marktraceur I suppose I'll figure that out when I come to it 19:12 marktraceur (I say that a lot these days) 19:13 jordach marktraceur, that must be a lot of thoughts 19:13 marktraceur jordach: Sort of, yeah 19:13 jordach then get evernote and write them down 19:14 marktraceur Evernote? 19:14 * marktraceur stops caring 19:15 marktraceur TiddlyWiki for the win 19:15 VanessaE I read that as "tiddly winkie" for some reason 19:15 jordach VanessaE, you need glasses. period. 19:15 Anelisa I have to go, bye guys ! :) 19:16 VanessaE jordach: oh no, the eyes see fine - I need a new sight -> word translation plugin for my brain :-) 19:17 marktraceur Hm. Lunch. But what form? 19:17 marktraceur Oh right 19:17 marktraceur I'm at home 19:17 VanessaE subway. 19:17 marktraceur Pizza Rolls 19:17 jordach VanessaE, KFC 19:17 VanessaE thin or thick? 19:17 jordach HOT ZINGER BOX 19:21 VanessaE guess he didn't get the reference. :-) 19:21 VanessaE (the correct answer, "Chicago.") 19:24 marktraceur VanessaE: Ha! Not New York? 19:24 VanessaE nope. 19:24 VanessaE Ghostbusters II reference. :-) 19:24 * marktraceur loves the duality in this: Skinny pizza in New York, fat pizza in the Midwest 19:25 VanessaE actually I prefer thin crust :-) 19:25 VanessaE (better toppings:carbs ratio :-) ) 19:25 marktraceur Ha, ha! Self-fulfilling prophecy. 19:26 marktraceur Or rather 19:26 marktraceur Ha, ha! Cookies on dowels. 19:26 VanessaE wha? 19:26 marktraceur Harvey Birdman reference! 19:26 marktraceur I had to fire back, you stumped me 19:26 VanessaE hah! 19:27 VanessaE never liked those Birdman and Space Ghost mashups :-) 19:27 VanessaE I used to watch the originals before they were....bastardized. :-) 19:27 marktraceur That, I haven't seen 19:27 marktraceur But Birdman is awesome. 19:27 VanessaE Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law is one 19:27 VanessaE Space Ghost, Coast to Coast is the other 19:28 marktraceur Oh, that's a bastardization? I'm a bad person. 19:28 VanessaE *nod* 19:28 VanessaE those are most definitely NOT the original cartoons :-) 19:28 marktraceur But...but...Colbert! 19:28 VanessaE haha 19:28 marktraceur And Dr. Spaceman! (Chris Parnell) 19:28 marktraceur I think he was in that 19:28 marktraceur .... 19:29 marktraceur Maybe I'm imagining things 19:29 VanessaE heh 19:29 marktraceur Yep, imagining things, totally 19:30 marktraceur Though he was in some form of animated series, I don't remember which one 19:30 * marktraceur stops being off-topic 19:30 jordach marktraceur, VanessaE, id say get a room, but....you know 19:32 marktraceur jordach: I think we've been over this, her husband might have something to say about it 19:32 jordach thats the joke 19:32 VanessaE I plead the 5th, your honor. :) 19:33 marktraceur Well, considering that was, to my recollection, *one* conversation some weeks ago, I reiterated 19:33 jordach marktraceur, dont re-gurgitate works 19:33 marktraceur jordach: I didn't re-gurgitate because of the joke, but rather because of your face 19:33 marktraceur Oh, yes. Immolation. 19:34 jordach hey marktraceur, want me to tell landmine of your server? 19:34 marktraceur Haha, go ahead! Privs are turned off by default, shouldn't be an issue 19:34 jordach lol 19:34 marktraceur Of course, you'd get banned in the process, though I'm not sure you care 19:34 jordach im joking 19:35 jordach i like to piss around 19:35 marktraceur jordach: Try using a toilet, much cleaner :P 19:35 jordach no 19:35 marktraceur (now we enter the "potty humour" portion of the evening) 19:36 VanessaE eh, he'll find it on his own eventually anyway\ 19:36 marktraceur VanessaE: Here's hoping *not* 19:36 marktraceur Though again, it probably won't matter 19:36 VanessaE amen to that\ 19:38 * marktraceur is being stupid 19:39 * jordach finally reset my twitter pass 19:40 marktraceur HA 19:40 marktraceur YES 19:40 marktraceur BITCH 19:40 marktraceur I hate programming sometimes 19:40 marktraceur But it's worth it for those moments 19:41 marktraceur Wow, someone explored more 19:42 VanessaE why now? 19:42 marktraceur VanessaE: Why now what? 19:42 VanessaE "I hate programming sometimes" 19:43 marktraceur I spent the last ~4 hours working on a problem 19:43 marktraceur And maybe 3 hours yesterday 19:43 marktraceur (maybe not the best use of my time, in retrospect) 19:43 marktraceur Finally solved it 19:44 VanessaE ah, I know how that is 19:44 VanessaE especially when it turns out to be some dinky little one-line change, or worse, one word. 19:45 marktraceur Yeah 19:45 marktraceur Exactly 19:45 marktraceur For example 19:45 marktraceur This problem was, I kept getting gaps in between "groups" of things inside of a 2D array 19:45 marktraceur And I finally realized that it was because my offset variables always were at least 1 space away 19:46 marktraceur So just manually throwing in an extra element fixed it 19:47 VanessaE sounds like a kludge but if it works, so be it 19:50 marktraceur And it did work, that's the great thing :P 19:51 marktraceur ....maybe 19:51 marktraceur OK, no, I screwed up 19:51 VanessaE ha! 19:51 marktraceur It fixed the immediate problem, but the chart's still represented wrong 19:53 nonporous i'm really interested in contributing to minetest through mods or core code, but I have limited programming experience (that of a physicist). can anyone point me in the right direction in terms of learning to navigate the code? 19:54 * VanessaE watches her ISP drop packets like mad 19:54 VanessaE (storms in the region) 19:54 nonporous in particular i'm looking for whatever references would be useful to understanding either the code, or how to write mods 19:54 nonporous (the developer wiki is still quite limited) 19:55 marktraceur nonporous: http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=dev_index is what we have 19:55 marktraceur nonporous: I'd suggest hanging around here, #minetest-delta, and #minetest-mods 19:55 marktraceur All are pretty awesome for helping 19:55 tapo hi 19:56 nonporous ok thanks marktraceur, I will check out those other channels too 20:09 marktraceur Hm, nonporous_, you appear to have switched 20:09 marktraceur Oh, I see what happened 20:09 marktraceur You preserved the nonporous_ with underscore 20:10 nonporous_ marktraceur yes i'm not too familiar with irc 20:11 marktraceur nonporous_: /nick nonporous 20:11 nonporous thanks 20:12 marktraceur nonporous: And you've figured out /join 20:12 marktraceur nonporous: /me says something 20:13 marktraceur For example 20:13 * marktraceur is enjoying this intractable problem he's working on 20:13 marktraceur nonporous: Also, /whois will give you information about that person 20:14 marktraceur nonporous: /whois marktraceur should tell you my real name, my hostname, and some other stuff 20:14 * nonporous appreciates the advice 20:14 marktraceur nonporous: Everyone has to learn somehow :) and nice use of /me! 20:28 tapo there's still no automaticly updated server list? 20:32 marktraceur tapo: Why would there be? Anyone can run a server. 20:34 jordach tapo: id make something like that, but im too figgin lazy 20:36 VanessaE thexyz already has one, though it only tracks servers he knows about 20:36 marktraceur tapo: Probably the best way is to make a standalone system that does it, and a nice script wrapper that not only informs the central list, but also makes the minetest server easier to manage (backup, restart, map commands to start) 20:38 tapo hm hm 20:44 jordach night all: see ya tomorrow 20:44 emspri tapo are you comming to brobostigon's server ?? 20:45 MiJyn I think jordach /asmg'd that :P 20:46 marktraceur MiJyn: He does, frequently 20:46 marktraceur emspri: Please use /msg for private messages 20:46 emspri ok sorry -,- 20:47 marktraceur Not to worry, but you should get in the habit 20:47 jahmke hey vanessa did you find an other server?? 20:48 VanessaE I didn't look for any 20:48 tapo emspri: what was address/port? 20:48 jahmke oh oke 20:48 emspri mine.taylorworld.me.uk 20:49 emspri ask brobostigon for interact privs 21:01 tapo no, I won't 21:01 emspri ok 21:01 tapo rm -rf minetest. 21:02 VanessaE better a server should require that first 21:02 tapo what meand nothing. I always can checkput and compile again 21:02 VanessaE much easier to control griefing that way 21:02 tapo ,-) 21:02 tapo p/o 21:03 jahmke hey people who play minetest you have to come to this server: mine.taylorworld.me.uk!!! plz 21:04 marktraceur jahmke: No, we don't 21:04 marktraceur And it is, in fact, spelled "please" 21:05 marktraceur Seriously, if you want us to believe your courtesy, why would you cut corners in expressing it? 21:12 jahmke ok sory mark 21:13 jahmke wiseguy 21:13 tapo +r :-) 21:14 marktraceur jahmke: Somehow your apology seems a bit insincere, but I accept it nonetheless 21:14 jk__ jolly snobby there 21:14 jahmke wat is your problem wiseguy 21:15 marktraceur jahmke: You are. You, and your pathetic attempts at caveman English. You dilute and ultimately negate the intelligence of any channel you join by your total lack of interest in proper communication. 21:16 emspri ??? 21:16 marktraceur emspri: Good question! 21:16 emspri what question ??? 21:17 marktraceur emspri: Exactly 21:17 jk__ status: still communicating 21:18 emspri what is caveman english ??? 21:18 jahmke hey thats not trua wiseguy 21:18 VanessaE jeez mark, don't sugar-coat it. say what you *really* mean ;-) 21:18 marktraceur emspri: English which appears to have been spoken by a caveman. 21:19 emspri so im a caveman too ?? 21:19 emspri now thats fair :) 21:19 marktraceur emspri: No, but your English could be classified as being "caveman English" 21:19 marktraceur emspri: I'd say you're often a little more original, though 21:19 marktraceur jahmke: Could you perhaps come up with a new moniker for me, at least? 21:19 emspri jahmke is my sis ya know XD 21:20 marktraceur emspri: I didn't, no 21:20 emspri and we dont speack so good english cuz we are dutch 21:20 jk_ lol the gemmination of punctuation would suggest so i'm afraid 21:20 jahmke but i am not english, I am Dutch, and I would like to see how you would do in a language that is not your mothers' 21:20 emspri i mean speak 21:20 VanessaE GOALD!!!!! 21:21 emspri XD 21:21 marktraceur I agree; I have very little success even with French. However, not abbreviating is not a question of grammar or vocabulary, you have to actively choose it. 21:21 VanessaE Interjection /in' tuhr jek'' shun/ (n.) 1. a sudden statement or outburst meant to signify surprise, horror, pain, or some other emotion. 21:21 jahmke withoutbraaging I think I'm doning quite allright 21:21 VanessaE (in this case, digging around on mark's server ;-) ) 21:22 marktraceur VanessaE: Gratz! 21:22 marktraceur Ha, hypocrisy. 21:24 jahmke concerning abbreviating: that's something the youth nowadays do, especially on a forum where the lines fly by at a high rate 21:24 marktraceur jahmke: Typing full words makes you type faster; it's good training :) 21:24 marktraceur And reinforces your English, which is already quite good apart from the abbreviating 21:24 jahmke hey i am just a kid so shut up 21:25 emspri why are you worrieing about spelling foults :( thats weird 21:25 marktraceur jahmke: You're absolutely right, how *dare* I try to help you type faster! 21:25 jk_ stfu is a good one 21:25 marktraceur I'm going to go turn myself in now, the police will be very interested in my misdeeds 21:25 marktraceur "Community service? Cultural exchange? Helping people improve skills? Twenty years for you!" 21:26 jahmke typing faster is a good idea, but I lack the vocabulary to do so 21:26 jahmke however, my typing speed is quite allright, better than my father anyway 21:27 emspri XD 21:27 jk_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_prescription 21:28 jahmke well, good night at the police station mark 21:29 emspri is it possible that someone can make a server for me ?? i mean with that that someone makes a server and gives me all privs there are ?? 21:33 NakedFury join an existing server, more fun 21:34 VanessaE marktraceur: btw, if you just upgrade to the newer version of junglegrass, all of that which has been spawned will slowly die off. you don't need to do anything to clean it up 21:35 emspri NakedFury: but it is more fun if you have all privs :D like /giveme 21:35 NakedFury play single player then 21:38 emspri brb 21:44 emspri does someone knows a popular server ?? 21:44 NakedFury marktraceur.info port 30000 21:44 emspri ok 21:45 emspri are there many people on ?? 21:45 emspri and what mods are installed are there buckets ?? 21:46 VanessaE there are two people online 21:46 emspri ok 21:46 emspri more than mine.taylorworld.me.uk 21:46 VanessaE make that 4. :-) 21:48 emspri mark can i have interact privs ?? im no griefer and i dont mes with others stuf 21:50 marktraceur emspri: Meh. I grant to people I trust and like. You have met neither qualification so far. 21:50 emspri i was not rude to you but my sis <:( 21:51 marktraceur True, but absence of rudeness is not enough for me to trust and like you 21:51 emspri ok 21:51 jahmke hey mark you have a nice server 21:52 emspri he wont trust you 21:52 emspri you better dont try cuz its hopeles 21:53 VanessaE I can voice for emspri on one count: he's trustworthy. 21:53 VanessaE can't say I approve of your style of artwork - minecraft characters and all 21:53 emspri are there other servers with many people on it ?? 21:53 VanessaE but that aside.... :-) 21:53 VanessaE voice? vouch. 21:54 marktraceur emspri: Hanging around here will do a lot in your favor, same with jahmke 21:54 emspri servers where you dont have to ask interact privs ?? 21:54 jahmke why mark?? 21:55 VanessaE as far as I'm concerned, all servers should be that way, with the proviso that the person tasked with assigning said privileges is easy to reach (obviously the case here) 21:55 marktraceur jahmke: It's good to have community, positive community, that lasts and doesn't log out when they get bored or frustrated *cough* c55 21:55 VanessaE haha 21:56 jahmke okay :) 21:56 VanessaE got a little something caught in your throat there mark? ;-) 21:56 jahmke i think that you are verry smart, are you? 21:57 VanessaE Well, I know I like to think so. 21:58 emspri van do u know if i am banned from minetest.ru cuz im not allowed to log in ?? 21:58 VanessaE minetest.ru:30001 is down for me 21:58 VanessaE or was last time I tried it 21:58 VanessaE (earlier today) 22:00 emspri does anyone have a server where i can have some privs ?? im not a griefer i promise 22:00 VanessaE nope, it's still down for me. 22:03 Bad_Command mt1.gameboom.net 30000 22:04 VanessaE Bad_Command: did you fix Landmine's vandalism? 22:04 Bad_Command landmine doesn't really vandalize on mt1 22:04 VanessaE yesterday, word has it be did a real number on the map. 22:04 Bad_Command He didn't do anything 22:04 Bad_Command He just slaughtered everyone 22:04 Bad_Command Anything to the map, that is 22:04 Bad_Command You know, bones mod, etc. 22:04 VanessaE hm 22:06 emspri Bad_Command can i have privs there ??? 22:06 Bad_Command emspri, yes, you just have to register on gameboom.net (accounts are linked to minetest) 22:06 Bad_Command Then I can swear you in 22:07 jahmke can i come 2 22:07 jahmke ?? 22:07 Bad_Command sure jahmke 22:07 emspri brb i have to sleap 22:07 jahmke i have to go 22:07 emspri i mean sleep 22:08 marktraceur In one ear, etc. 22:16 emspri Bad_Command im now making an account on gameboom , il add my wii code later 22:18 Bad_Command ok, not sure what the wii code stuff is 23:21 marktraceur Hm. I seem to have miscalculated my sphere. 23:21 VanessaE is that bad? ;-) 23:21 marktraceur It's an off-by-one error 23:21 marktraceur I'll just live with it 23:32 marktraceur Yeah, messed it all the way up 23:32 marktraceur Freakin' spheres 23:48 NakedFury ok just noticed why it was dropping in FPS when I looked at player names. I had pressed R in game to toggle viewing all loaded chunks and in that direction it rendered them all 23:48 VanessaE I figured that's what happened. 23:48 marktraceur Gorram it, sphere is all wrong 23:48 * marktraceur starts removing all his work 23:49 marktraceur http://www.hardijzer.nl/MinecraftSpheres.html 23:51 VanessaE damn, no sethome mod eh :-) 23:51 NakedFury that link crashed when I typed 320 as radius 23:51 marktraceur NakedFury: Doctor, it hurts when I do this 23:51 * marktraceur slaps self 23:55 marktraceur Oh, god damn it 23:55 marktraceur It won't do odd numbers 23:55 NakedFury which number? 23:56 marktraceur My current sphere has radius of 15.5 nodes 23:56 marktraceur Sooooo gotta start all over again 23:57 VanessaE damn :( 23:57 NakedFury radius is from center to side or border right? 23:57 marktraceur Yes