Time Nick Message 00:00 VanessaE no 00:00 VanessaE but it'll make it possible to dig them again 00:12 MiJyn DANG 00:12 MiJyn MySDLD is taking 146% of CPU 00:17 MiJyn ok gotta reboot :( 00:51 VanessaE there. 00:52 VanessaE interesting - when did mese get reverted back to the old bright-yellow-with-black-text texture? 00:56 cy1 since its awesomeness overcame any shackles of time 00:56 VanessaE hm, back on the 7th. Why why it took so long for my machine to pick it up 00:56 VanessaE s/why why/wonder why/ 01:11 NakedFury anyone know why connecting to a channel would not work? 01:11 VanessaE no clue 01:11 NakedFury im connected but its frozen in the server channel, esperNet and cant join any #channels 01:12 VanessaE never used that network 01:17 NakedFury why? 01:27 VanessaE why what? 01:28 NakedFury never use that wetwork 01:28 VanessaE never useD :-) 01:28 VanessaE as in I've never been ther 01:28 VanessaE there* 02:06 NoXzema I was trying mintest 0.4 and found it rather laggy 02:06 NoXzema I also found that when removing a block, you could temporarily see space underneath it 02:07 NakedFury yes 02:07 NoXzema And I can't figure out how to get into fullscreen mode 02:07 NakedFury what do you mean? 02:08 NoXzema When I start up minetest, it's windowed. I'd like it to take up my whole screen 02:08 NakedFury press the maximize button 02:08 NoXzema That's still windowed, just a larger window lol 02:09 NakedFury its a maximized full screen window then 02:09 NoXzema ... 02:09 NakedFury I dont know of any other way 02:09 NoXzema Then one should possibly be added lol 02:10 NoXzema A fullscreen option is a big deal for some people lol 06:22 MiJyn hey 07:41 Calinou spam on wiki :c 07:45 T_A_N_K oh calinou! 07:46 Calinou still fixing it up 07:46 Calinou inb4 T_A_N_K sent it 07:46 T_A_N_K time to EXPLODE the wiki 07:46 T_A_N_K lulz4ever 07:46 sfan5 cookie tnt! 07:49 Calinou lol 07:49 Calinou vandalism undo'd and vandals blocked, pages protected 07:51 T_A_N_K i remember when the owner was so angry that i asked him if i could copy the wiki, even though i helped him make it lmao 07:53 Calinou *10 blocks done* 07:55 T_A_N_K http://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/test 07:56 Calinou lol 08:24 marktraceur cy1: Server's back up 08:33 Calinou suggestion for xpanes mod: do not draw the top face if the pane is fully surrounded by other panes 08:33 Calinou "* marktraceur (~marktrace@fsf/member/marktraceur) joined #minetest" 08:33 Calinou :o 08:33 marktraceur Calinou: Yes? 08:33 Calinou didn't knew you were a fsf member 08:33 Calinou s/knew/know 08:33 marktraceur Is it really so shocking? 09:07 cy1 thanks marktraceur 09:07 cy1 about my bedtime tohugh 09:09 Calinou marktraceur, no 09:29 * Calinou is playing 0.3.1 - I miss mobs. :( 09:29 Calinou mining was scarier :P 09:34 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2212 < spam, sfan5, thexyz 09:35 sfan5 deleted 09:36 Calinou thanks 09:36 sfan5 np 12:19 thexyz http://servers.minetest.ru/ 12:20 thexyz also, Calinou, what do you mean by "top face" of pane? 12:20 Calinou the texture on the top should be hidden, if there is another pane on top 12:34 * VanessaE peeks in 12:35 sfan5 hi VanessaE 12:35 VanessaE hey hey 12:37 VanessaE measuring uptime to five 9's eh? optimistic ;-) 12:37 thexyz why no? 12:39 VanessaE nevermind, calculated in my head wrong :-) 12:44 VanessaE thexyz: can you generate a new overview map? I'm curious :-) 13:10 thexyz VanessaE: http://minetest.ru/smap2.png 13:11 VanessaE thanks 13:11 VanessaE wow, that third level of emspri's castle is huge, and it ain't eben done yet 13:12 VanessaE even 13:13 VanessaE I still can't figure out what that round structure is south of my house across the lake... it's big and interesting, but wtf is it? 13:14 Calinou http://minetest.ru/smap2.png 13:14 Calinou it's sad how EVERY SINGLE FUCKING MAP has these gray lines as roads 13:14 Calinou every single fucking map has those 13:14 Calinou random stone squares 13:14 VanessaE well sure, they're usually made of cobble, what else did you expect? 13:15 thexyz it's sad that minetest generates fucking flying islands 13:15 thexyz at ~7000-8000 heigh 13:15 thexyz t 13:15 FreeFull Shush, Flying islands are cool 13:15 thexyz they make shadow 13:15 thexyz that's not cool 13:15 VanessaE I've been clearing those out when I find 'em 13:15 VanessaE OH 13:15 VanessaE not the ones at 7000+ though 13:16 VanessaE I always wondered what was causing those shadows 13:16 thexyz http://plasmon.rghost.ru/38958741/image.png 13:16 thexyz see that 13:16 thexyz 8533 13:16 VanessaE weird 13:17 FreeFull =P 13:17 thexyz yes 13:17 VanessaE Oh I see how it is. moreores on your private machine but not on the server. fine :-) 13:17 thexyz even with trees 13:17 thexyz that's main minetest.ru server 13:17 thexyz and this screenshot is not mine 13:17 VanessaE I was kidding anyway :-) 13:17 thexyz another one — http://plasmon.rghost.ru/38958755/image.png 13:18 VanessaE one does have to wonder why the mapgen does that 13:18 VanessaE should be easy to add a cutoff though - if it tries to generate something higher than +75, just don't generate 13:18 VanessaE it's a kludge but it'll work 13:19 Calinou lol, almost MC 13:19 jordach Calinou, STOP 13:19 Calinou should be easy to add a cutoff though - if it tries to generate something higher than +75, just don't generate < yeah 13:19 jordach interesting skyblocks 13:19 VanessaE jordach: too late :) 13:20 jordach never too late 13:26 Calinou hmm, compressing the map render using OptiPNG reduces size by 34% 13:26 Calinou takes time though 13:31 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/143 13:31 Calinou HI ARCHLINUXIAN 13:33 Calinou my debug.txt is 82MB; removed it 13:34 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges 13:34 Calinou -_- more spam 13:35 jordach then lock some pages 13:35 MiJyn hey guys 13:37 VanessaE hey mijyn 13:39 jordach i just added my wool to the wiki 13:40 MiJyn nice! 13:41 VanessaE ADS ON THE WIKI!? 13:41 MiJyn yeah... 13:42 jordach VanessaE, you might have a virus 13:42 jordach just go give yerself a scan 13:43 VanessaE a virus on a linux box? hah 13:44 Calinou ADS ON THE WIKI!? 13:44 Calinou adblock 13:46 Calinou 10 spammers banned. 13:46 Calinou wb thexyz 13:47 Calinou Number of edits: 420 13:47 Calinou Registration time: 17:01, 13 April 2012 13:47 Calinou :D 13:47 MiJyn lol 13:47 MiJyn hi thexyz 13:48 jordach VanessaE, stranger things can happen 13:48 MiJyn jordach, but a virus is quite unlikely 13:48 jordach Been running Windows 7 for two months now, no VIRUSES so far 13:48 jordach yet im always watching... 13:49 MiJyn yeah, but you are gonna get a virus sometime. Also, linux boxes don't get viruses 13:49 jordach O RLY 13:49 thexyz jordach: you meant, "no viruses that presence i can clearly identify" so far? 13:50 jordach nope, i run boot time scans 13:50 jordach every week 13:50 jordach so no WIN DRIVER GEST GOING 13:50 thexyz s/ i / me and my antivirus / 13:51 VanessaE there. my adblockplus install musta been bugged. re-installed and the ads are toast :-) 13:51 thexyz i used to have windows on my pc 13:51 jordach USED 13:52 thexyz but then i took a virus in the knee =( 13:52 MiJyn yeah 13:52 jordach HA 13:52 MiJyn and windows is so doggone slow 13:52 jordach o rly 13:52 MiJyn plus impossible to develop with 13:52 jordach again 13:52 jordach not hard 13:52 MiJyn compared to linux, yeah 13:52 thexyz what is not hard? 13:52 thexyz developing? 13:52 jordach see ace of spades dev team 13:52 thexyz developing on WINDOWS? 13:52 thexyz are you fucking kidding me? 13:52 MiJyn thexyz, yeah 13:52 jordach MiJyn, get out 13:52 thexyz does windows, at least, has console? 13:52 MiJyn seriously, there are no packages 13:53 MiJyn console is nearly impossible to use 13:53 thexyz (not that 90-like cmd) 13:53 thexyz or whatever 13:53 jordach WHO NEEDS PACKAGES...OH WAIT, WHATS A /XIP FILE 13:53 MiJyn ok, powershell exists 13:53 thexyz oh, and you can't resize it 13:53 MiJyn but that is dumb 13:53 thexyz i don't know anything about powershell 13:53 thexyz can it cat, tail, head, less, vim, wget, curl? 13:53 MiJyn powershell? 13:53 MiJyn no it can't 13:53 thexyz just its existance 13:54 MiJyn yerp 13:54 thexyz mm.. i think i can have cygwin installed 13:54 jordach d: 13:54 jordach D: 13:54 thexyz so, what is powershell used for? 13:54 jordach a 12 GiB install BAH 13:55 thexyz is it like "terminal emulator"? 13:55 jordach yes 13:55 MiJyn it's like a .net shell made by M$ 13:55 jordach Cygwin is FAT 13:55 thexyz jordach: no, it isn't 13:55 jordach er yes 13:56 thexyz jordach: you're using it wrong then 13:56 MiJyn finally apt is upgrading! 13:56 jordach wait what 13:56 thexyz or what do you mean by "FAT"? 13:56 Calinou he's fat 13:56 Calinou and windows is so doggone slow 13:56 Calinou plus impossible to develop with 13:56 Calinou compared to linux, yeah 13:56 * jordach and Calinou dislike Linux for one reason: too many libraries (C) 13:57 thexyz btw, can i run cygwin's bash in powershell? 13:57 Calinou windows isn't slow, talking about drivers, and has bugless drivers with correct power saving 13:57 Calinou thexyz, try? 13:57 Calinou lol 13:57 Calinou developing on WINDOWS? 13:57 Calinou that's how you gain money 13:57 thexyz lol 13:57 * Calinou points to notch 13:57 thexyz no-no 13:57 * jordach also points to notch 13:57 thexyz i mean "developing" 13:57 jordach MSVC 13:57 thexyz you see that" 13:57 thexyz ? 13:57 thexyz jordach: is it free? 13:57 jordach yes 13:58 Calinou lol 13:58 jordach depends if you like fucking copyrights in the mouth 13:58 * MiJyn and nearly everyone else like Linux for many reasons: stable, fast, easy, no BSOD, everything fixable, evertyhing free, no patents, no M$, you can make your own distro for free, etc... 13:58 Calinou can it cat, tail, head, less, vim, wget, curl? 13:58 thexyz for developing commercial software 13:58 Calinou vim *_* 13:58 Calinou * MiJyn and nearly everyone else like Linux for many reasons: stable, fast, easy, no BSOD, everything fixable, evertyhing free, no patents, no M$, you can make your own distro for free, etc... 13:58 Calinou NEVER got a BSOD with this computer 13:58 MiJyn lol 13:58 jordach neither do i 13:58 MiJyn you will 13:58 Calinou stable... meh, except drivers 13:58 Calinou everything fixable > not the drivers 13:58 jordach the only reason why they happen is bad driver makers 13:58 Calinou "no M$" good thing though 13:58 thexyz ok, so i can freely use msvc to develop commercial software, right? 13:58 Calinou free? YAY DELETING WINDOWS 13:58 Calinou as in price 13:59 Calinou thexyz, huh 13:59 MiJyn Calinou, even the drivers 13:59 jordach and this happens with bad coders of progeams to SEE IMVU on a dell optiplex 13:59 Calinou you will < no 13:59 MiJyn I fixed the drivers many times 13:59 Calinou yeah, the free drivers 13:59 Calinou horrible performance and opengl 13:59 MiJyn FGLRX 13:59 MiJyn I fixed that 13:59 thexyz isn't that express version is for educational purposes only? 13:59 Calinou MiJyn, by hacking RAM around? 14:00 thexyz Calinou: oh nice, after >15 years of development windows has no random BSODS 14:00 thexyz so sweet 14:00 thexyz does powershell support colors? 14:01 jordach probably not 14:01 Calinou -_- 14:01 thexyz oh, nice 14:01 Calinou go ahead and try to refund windows and try to install linux, you'll see 14:01 Calinou today's computers prevent linux installation, news to you? 14:01 Calinou you can't even boot a live CD 14:01 MiJyn Calinou, NO lol, I just edited the source! 14:01 Calinou tried on two computers bought in 2011 14:01 thexyz Calinou: you seems to live in different world 14:01 Calinou MiJyn, thought FGLRX was proprietary 14:01 Calinou not russia 14:01 MiJyn Calinou, yep 14:01 MiJyn it is 14:01 thexyz Calinou: what about russia there? are they euro champions? 14:01 MiJyn but you can edit the source 14:02 MiJyn easily 14:02 thexyz i can hardly find PCs where you can't install linux on 14:02 jordach actually 14:02 thexyz and, anyway, that's problem created by microsoft 14:02 jordach DELL optiplexes are known for thisx 14:02 MiJyn yeah 14:02 thexyz not by linux 14:02 Calinou not really microsoft, the manufacturers 14:02 Calinou are putting so-called "piracy" preventions 14:02 thexyz no, microsoft 14:02 Calinou also, PCs without OS === expensive 14:03 Calinou more expensive than computers with windows from my experience 14:03 thexyz do you think that manufacturers could themselves make that vendorlock? 14:03 thexyz nobody likes vendorlocks 14:03 thexyz except microsoft/apple 14:03 Calinou "you can make your own distro for free" < has bad sides 14:03 thexyz and what? 14:03 Calinou "WHAT DISTRO SHOULD I CHOOSE" question, always always 14:03 thexyz you are free not to use that distro 14:03 Calinou was easier back in 2010 obviously 14:03 MiJyn Calinou, nope 14:03 thexyz simply answer ubuntu/mint 14:03 Calinou (because ubuntu didn't suck that much) 14:03 thexyz for new users 14:03 MiJyn I wrote a tool that lets you write your own distro 14:03 * Calinou is not a new user 14:04 thexyz Calinou: really? 14:04 thexyz it seems so 14:04 Calinou no 14:04 thexyz because all console things are hard for you 14:04 thexyz oh, i forgot 14:04 VanessaE ubuntu if you're a noob, debian if you're experienced, slackware if you're a hardcore hacker, gentoo if you're a masochist 14:04 VanessaE simple. :-) 14:04 thexyz you're windows fanboy 14:04 Calinou ubuntu is for the people that cannot use a command line at all or whatever 14:04 thexyz console is not for windows 14:04 Calinou it has a command line :P 14:04 thexyz ^ fanboys 14:04 Calinou nevermind. 14:04 thexyz Calinou: can you resize it? 14:04 Calinou not really 14:04 thexyz lol 14:04 Calinou I'm not a windows fanboy 14:04 MiJyn Calinou, Ubuntu is for everyone 14:04 thexyz 2012, windows cmd.exe cannot into resizing 14:05 MiJyn and I can use a commandline (had to use it for 6 hours on-end) 14:05 Calinou if I found the same comp for 100 euros cheaper without windows I'd certainly buy it 14:05 Calinou ._. 14:05 Calinou CBA to ask refund 14:05 VanessaE build your own 14:05 thexyz Calinou: as i already said, ask for refund 14:05 VanessaE $500 or so gets you a nice decent box without windows on it 14:05 thexyz oh, yes 14:05 Calinou also: all my data 14:05 thexyz (06:05:17 PM) VanessaE: build your own << 14:05 VanessaE (I think I paid closer to $700 for mine, including the SSD and video card) 14:05 thexyz see that 14:05 Calinou *will have to reinstall ALL the things* 14:05 Calinou surely fast with 2.4/0.4mbits connection 14:05 thexyz what do you mean? 14:05 thexyz by "all my data"? 14:06 Calinou I have a faster connection than the dudes who wrote the debian doc at least 14:06 Calinou thexyz, well, the stuff I downloaded etc... games, will have to be redownloaded 14:06 Calinou takes long 14:06 thexyz why? 14:06 VanessaE Calinou: when you use linux, these days you can just re-use the hard drive, without re-installing 14:06 VanessaE most linux installs will auto-adapt to the new hardware 14:06 thexyz can't you put your hdd in new PC? 14:06 Calinou because they are windows versions? 14:06 Calinou thexyz, I have good specs 14:06 Calinou let's not waste them 14:06 thexyz i still can't understand, what is the problem? 14:07 thexyz you don't need to delete everything 14:07 thexyz you can still use your ntfs partitions with linux 14:07 MiJyn yes 14:07 thexyz just shrink them and create tiny root partiton for linux 14:08 Calinou you can still use your ntfs partitions with linux 14:08 Calinou - you're limited to 4 physical partitions 14:08 Calinou - multiboot + UEFI? NEVAH 14:08 thexyz really? 14:08 thexyz i am not 14:08 Calinou well maybe this has changed 14:08 * thexyz has GPT 14:08 Calinou logical partitions are an hack 14:08 MiJyn Calinou, sure, but 4 partitions is well enough to put in 2 OSs 14:08 thexyz Calinou: read about gpt 14:08 thexyz one time more 14:08 Calinou windows + "recovery" + linux + swap... maybe 14:09 MiJyn yeah 14:09 Calinou my computer has some recovery partition for some reason 14:09 MiJyn you can always fit both 14:09 VanessaE use logical partitions? 14:09 thexyz oh, i'll even link it here 14:09 thexyz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table 14:09 VanessaE or whatever they call the non primary ones 14:09 Calinou also I do have a computer with linux. :P 14:09 VanessaE I forget now 14:10 Calinou nobody likes vendorlocks 14:10 Calinou except microsoft/apple 14:10 Calinou I don't even know why do they put vendorlocks, too 14:10 Calinou still annoying 14:11 VanessaE because they can? OMG COMPETITION 14:11 thexyz VanessaE: using logical partitions is bad practice 14:11 thexyz YES, WE WON! 14:12 VanessaE thexyz: I tend to agree; I use only primary partitions because I just don't need the logical ones, but I can see an argument for using them 14:12 thexyz i think he's going to delete windows and install linux right now 14:12 MiJyn thexyz, YAY! 14:12 MiJyn xD 14:12 jordach WHO KNOWS 14:12 thexyz VanessaE: why don't you use gpt? 14:12 jordach could be windows 2000 14:12 VanessaE don't need it 14:12 thexyz why not? 14:13 VanessaE my machine has one OS using two drives and a grand total of four partitions :-) 14:13 VanessaE (three on the SSD, one on the HDD) 14:13 thexyz ok 14:13 thexyz also, mbr's max partiton size is 2.19 TB 14:13 thexyz that's already can be not enough 14:14 VanessaE that's more than I have :-) 14:14 thexyz yes, i remember that 14:15 VanessaE lesse... 60 + 500 on one box, 60 + 640 on the other, and a 1TB backup disk (since the main storage drives aren't anywhere near full yet) 14:18 VanessaE oh, and 4GB + 128MB on my Commodore 128 ;-) 14:21 VanessaE what's the spare box got...250GB? I forget; it never gets used anyway 15:13 whiskers75 why can other people on my server open my locked chests? 15:15 Calinou whiskers75, if they log in with your username they can - set a password 15:15 whiskers75 they are not - they are logging as seperate players 15:15 Calinou empty locked chests can be removed by anyone 15:15 whiskers75 they are not empty 15:15 FreeFull Can they actually take stuff out/put stuff in? 15:16 Calinou MOAR spam on wiki. 15:17 whiskers75 no 15:17 thexyz Calinou: of course there will be much spam 15:17 thexyz there is even no captcha 15:18 whiskers75 thexyz: Calinou: or a little "What is the current Minetest stable version?" question :) 15:18 Calinou thexyz, the cat photos thingie... but the bots are not putting external URLs 15:18 Calinou I already protected some pages from guests 15:19 thexyz Calinou: cat photos? 15:19 NakedFury stable would be 3.1 15:19 whiskers75 Calinou: thexyz: yeah../ 15:19 whiskers75 ? 15:19 Calinou 0.3.1 15:19 Calinou celeron55 15:19 thexyz Calinou: try editing random pages when not logged in 15:19 Calinou stable version/the developer 15:19 Calinou thexyz, ik it works 15:19 Calinou the cat photos captcha only appears when putting external URLs 15:20 thexyz ask administrator to make it permanent 15:21 thexyz also, i think that you should better create pages like moreblocks/item_codes instead of item_codes/moreblocks 15:21 thexyz and i don't see reason to do that 15:21 thexyz except copying minecraftwiki structure 15:21 thexyz oh, i remember, you asked me for some templates 15:21 whiskers75 thexyz: what about a link from moreblocks/item_codes -> item_codes/moreblocks? 15:23 thexyz time to register then.. 15:23 whiskers75 thexyz: :) 15:23 thexyz whiskers75: i think that item_codes/moreblocks is wrong in any way 15:23 Calinou http://pastebin.com/d08kxrb0 15:23 Calinou suggestion 15:23 thexyz Calinou: agree 15:24 thexyz that "codes" thing is too minecrafty 15:24 thexyz and it makes no sense in minetest now 15:24 whiskers75 Calinou: AGREE :P 15:24 thexyz because nodes names are strings 15:24 whiskers75 not codes 15:25 Calinou kay... restructuration time 15:25 Calinou also: Mod_list for a mod list 15:25 Calinou afaik there is already a mod list, yes 15:25 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mod_list 15:25 thexyz why not make "mods" a mods list? 15:26 Calinou because 15:26 thexyz because…? 15:26 Calinou "mods" should be INFO about mods in a general way; not info about mods themselves 15:27 Calinou keep in mind: length 15:29 thexyz also 15:29 * Calinou is too lazy to restructure everything 15:29 Calinou maybe later 15:29 thexyz who is administrator? 15:29 thexyz of that wiki 15:29 thexyz is he here? 15:31 Calinou saxony is the admin/host 15:31 Calinou I'm admin too :P 15:31 Calinou he isn't here 15:32 thexyz Calinou: can you install wiki plugins? 15:32 Calinou nope, don't think so 15:32 thexyz then you aren't TRUE admin :P 15:32 thexyz could you ask him to install that thing? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor 15:34 thexyz also the easiest way to create templates is to copy them from minecraft wiki 15:34 thexyz because they are licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 15:34 Calinou oh, ok 15:34 MiJyn hi 15:35 thexyz but that's not the best way 15:35 Calinou I'm (re-)making JS animations for stair/slab :D 15:36 Calinou done! 15:37 MiJyn JS? 15:37 Calinou javascript. ._. 15:37 Calinou not je suck 15:38 MiJyn JE? 15:38 MiJyn I know javascript 15:38 MiJyn how can you make animations for minetest using JS? 15:42 MiJyn hey LM 15:42 LandMine hi 15:42 LandMine hey i need some more help lol 15:42 LandMine how can i add another inv 15:42 LandMine for example 15:42 LandMine context;main <-----thats one 15:42 LandMine context;main 15:43 LandMine context;main_2 <-----what i wanna make 15:43 Calinou MiJyn, "je" > "I" in french... 15:43 Calinou was a joke 15:43 Calinou LandMine, huh? 15:43 Calinou adding another inv isn't possible AFAIK 15:43 MiJyn Calinou, OH, I get it now x 15:43 Calinou hi marktraceur 15:43 MiJyn *xD 15:44 LandMine yeah so lets say i have this 15:44 LandMine invsize[8,9;] list[context;main;0,0;8,4;] list[current_player;main;0,5;8,4;] 15:44 LandMine if i add another row of list[context;main 15:44 LandMine i will be the same 15:44 LandMine i want them to be different 15:44 Calinou inventory size has to be edited in C++ not lua 15:44 LandMine so i want to add list[context;main_2 15:45 LandMine its not inventory size 15:45 LandMine just wanna add another list 15:46 LandMine do you understand? 15:52 thexyz oh, awesome 15:52 thexyz that wiki has parserfunctions disabled 15:52 thexyz NO MORE TEMPLATES FOR YOU 15:53 thexyz Calinou: ask admin to enable http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions 15:53 thexyz NOW! 15:54 jordach afternoon cisoun 15:54 cisoun1 wazzup 15:57 LandMine cisoun you know how to add another list type? 15:57 LandMine like current_name;main 16:07 whiskers75 Hello, I am making some changes to the rollback mod, what is wrong wih this code? http://pastebin.com/vMxj8NyK 16:07 thexyz cast Calinou 16:08 whiskers75 cast? 16:11 whiskers75 what does cast mean, thexyz? 16:11 thexyz whiskers75: some dark magic 16:11 whiskers75 thexyz: but... why cast calinou? 16:11 thexyz that should bring Calinou there 16:12 whiskers75 oh i get it 16:20 NakedFury its the other way around 16:20 NakedFury Calinou 16:20 NakedFury Calinou 16:20 NakedFury Calinou 16:20 NakedFury beetlejuice style 16:23 cisoun1 rofl 16:23 cisoun1 Say "Beer" 3 times and I will come. 16:27 Calinou lol 16:27 Calinou thexyz, you could ask him on talk page... I'll do that 16:27 thexyz ok 16:28 Calinou done 16:34 VanessaE thexyz: 30001 needs a restart 16:35 VanessaE is that anything like saying "betelgeuse" three times? :-) 16:35 VanessaE oh yeah, you said it already 16:35 Calinou is that a french word? :c 16:35 VanessaE (see, even my brain is lagging) 16:37 marktraceur Calinou: "Betelgeuse" is the name of a star, "Beetlejuice" is a fictional character from a movie (and animated TV show) who appeared when you said his name three times. HTH 16:38 VanessaE that I think is how it was spelled on that print add the Maitlans find 16:38 VanessaE in the movie 16:38 VanessaE s/add/ad/ 16:38 marktraceur Hm 16:38 marktraceur Didn't know that 16:38 VanessaE yeah 16:38 * marktraceur hasn't seen the movie in years 16:39 VanessaE right after they disover they're dead, they're looking through something in the attic, I forget what, and a newspaper ad falls out, written on it is that spelling (3x of course), with a picture of a beetle-like caricature of the antagonist in question 16:40 VanessaE followed shortly thereafter by a TV ad, fast-talking-car-salesman style 16:43 whiskers75 does anyone know what the Lua function is to set the time of day? 16:43 thexyz read. the. docs 16:44 whiskers75 does it say there? 16:44 whiskers75 ok, ill go check 16:59 whiskers75 the docs say to use set_timeofday(0.5) but that does not work. 17:00 thexyz that's strange 17:00 whiskers75 minetest.set_timeofsay(0.5) fails too 17:01 whiskers75 the both fail with the error: cannot index (field or global) set_timeofday (a nil value) 17:01 thexyz that's because you should use minetest.env:set_timeofday 17:01 whiskers75 ahhhh 17:01 whiskers75 thx 17:02 whiskers75 -/faceplm 17:02 whiskers75 */facepalm 17:02 whiskers75 it works! 17:06 VanessaE thexyz: can you restart 30001 please? it's unplayably lagged now :( 17:06 thexyz ok 17:07 VanessaE (c55 chose the worst possible time to take a break) 17:07 thexyz done 17:07 VanessaE thanks 17:07 thexyz i guess my server monitoring system didn't see that 17:08 VanessaE well it was "up" 17:08 VanessaE just lagged too badly to play anymore 17:08 thexyz yes, it checks every 1 minute 17:21 Calinou "HTH"? 17:21 whiskers75 The Dayblock Mod (https://github.com/whiskers75/minetest-dayblock) is now up and running! 17:21 VanessaE "hope That Helps 17:21 VanessaE " 17:21 Calinou whiskers75, make a forum thread too... 17:21 Calinou :P 17:21 Calinou also the command is /giveme not /giveyourself 17:22 whiskers75 Calinou: it's a pun 17:22 Calinou noone will get it 17:22 Calinou noone = the newbs 17:22 whiskers75 OK... 17:22 whiskers75 There. Happy? 17:23 Calinou yeah 17:23 Calinou :D 17:23 whiskers75 ill go make a forum thread now 17:24 whiskers75 here: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=29228 17:25 Calinou also ask a moderator to move it 17:25 Calinou erm 17:25 Calinou you have to put a PROPER description and recipes/etc before requesting move 17:25 Calinou and also: license 17:26 whiskers75 My Tictactoe mod has also been updated - your textures (calinou) have been made seethrough 17:27 whiskers75 changed post about dayblock 17:27 Calinou k... 17:27 Calinou why? :o 17:28 Calinou you mean: the blocks are now transparent? 17:40 whiskers75 yes 17:41 whiskers75 where did Calinou go? 17:54 whiskers75 New version of Dayblock released - with night blocks now! http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=29228#p29228 17:55 VanessaE dayblock? 17:55 whiskers75 new mod 17:56 VanessaE interesting idea 17:56 VanessaE fwiw, you can also /time 6000 or /time 18000 :-) 17:56 whiskers75 useful for servers and people going "Ahh! I can't see! Make it day!" 17:57 whiskers75 it also saves typing :P 17:57 VanessaE good point 17:58 whiskers75 The textures are see-through (have transparencies) so the blocks look really cool :) 17:59 thexyz wiki is spammed again 17:59 VanessaE that didn't take long.. 18:00 whiskers75 here's a pic: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46333495/dayblock.png 18:03 whiskers75 like it? 18:03 VanessaE nice 18:04 marktraceur whiskers75: There are far better ways to host images 18:04 whiskers75 Yeah, well Dropbox was quick and I was in a hurry 18:04 VanessaE I'm glad I have a personal web space for this stuff 18:04 VanessaE unlimited bandwidth usage, unlimited storage, and cheap enough 18:04 NakedFury photobucket 18:05 * marktraceur considers setting up MediaGoblin 18:05 thexyz VanessaE: that can't be real 18:05 VanessaE well, 18:05 whiskers75 Dayblock is good for strobe lighting :) (punch day, then night.................) 18:05 VanessaE "unlimited" then. 18:05 VanessaE :-) 18:05 thexyz like "unlimited*" ? 18:05 thexyz * some shit will happen when you'll exceed our limit 18:05 * whiskers75 doesn't mind Dropbox 18:06 VanessaE well all I know is my site sources about 20 GB/month and they haven't complained :-) 18:06 VanessaE (yeah yeah, low end, etc) 18:06 whiskers75 Dropbox is great for servers. (the handy "Restore previous versions" feature") 18:06 VanessaE of course since I moved my texture packs off to github, that number has dropped by now I'm sure 18:07 whiskers75 cisoun1: what happened to cisoun? 18:07 NakedFury died 18:07 jordach that is him 18:07 cisoun1 I killed him 18:08 whiskers75 I *know* but *why* is he logged in as cisoun1? 18:08 cisoun1 I don't know, Pidgin has maybe smoked too much pot 18:08 cisoun1 let me see 18:08 VanessaE a lot of irc clients give you 2 or 3 alternate nicknames 18:08 whiskers75 ah. 18:08 cisoun1 Pidgin tells me that "cisoun" is already taken here but I don't see it 18:09 cisoun1 dafuq pidgin 18:09 whiskers75 cisoun1: use ubuntu? 18:09 VanessaE * [cisoun] (~cisoun@231-105.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch): Cyriaque Skrapits 18:09 VanessaE * [cisoun] adams.freenode.net :Budapest, HU, EU 18:09 VanessaE * [cisoun] is using a secure connection 18:09 VanessaE * [cisoun] End of WHOIS list. 18:09 cisoun1 archlinux 18:09 whiskers75 ah 18:09 cisoun1 !whois cisoun 18:10 MiJyn /whois cisoun 18:10 cisoun1 im so dumb... 18:10 whiskers75 i am on ubuntu 12.04, using irssi (STILL haven't got the hang of the channel switcher) 18:11 cisoun1 Where the f... did he take my real name... 18:12 whiskers75 maybe he IS you 18:12 whiskers75 just still logged in 18:12 whiskers75 you can try rebooting 18:12 VanessaE you didn't regisyer cisoun? 18:12 VanessaE register* 18:12 cisoun1 oh pidgin y u so silly 18:12 whiskers75 how do u register...........................................? 18:12 whiskers75 'cos I haven't 18:13 whiskers75 :0 18:13 cisoun1 i don't see any cisoun out here 18:13 VanessaE cisoun1: use /whois 18:13 cisoun1 whois cisoun works for me 18:13 VanessaE a person can be on a server without being in a channel after all :-) 18:13 marktraceur cisoun1: /msg NickServ ghost 18:13 thexyz yes 18:13 thexyz just wanted to say same 18:13 cisoun1 DAMMIT GNOME 3 18:13 marktraceur cisoun1: It logs out other sessions 18:14 cisoun1 EMPATHY U SILLY MOFO 18:14 thexyz lol 18:14 thexyz use mate 18:14 VanessaE haha 18:14 VanessaE xchat ftw :-) 18:14 whiskers75 no, irssi! (can someone tell me how to change acts?) 18:14 cisoun1 I will never leave pidgin and I hate the history system of empathy 18:15 whiskers75 (I'm not making a good Irssi impression here..) 18:15 thexyz lol 18:16 * thexyz enters Calinou mode 18:16 thexyz lolirssi 18:16 cisoun1 well, empathy doesn't want to show up 18:16 cisoun1 dafuq dude 18:16 thexyz u want to show ur skilz 18:16 * thexyz leaves Calinou mode 18:16 whiskers75 i found out! 18:16 whiskers75 its /window 18:16 cisoun1 f... yeah 18:17 whiskers75 ooh cisoun1... quick!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18:17 whiskers75 YAY!!!!!!!! 18:17 cisoun Sup bitcheez 18:17 whiskers75 * /msg NickServ ghost (username) (pass) didn't work for me 18:17 whiskers75 i got whiskers75 is not a registered nick 18:18 thexyz whiskers75: register it then 18:18 whiskers75 thexyz:*how*? 18:18 thexyz READ.THE.DOCS!! 18:19 whiskers75 docs? 18:19 thexyz http://freenode.net/faq.shtml 18:19 thexyz yes, docs 18:19 whiskers75 OH 18:19 thexyz http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 18:22 whiskers75 done! 18:22 whiskers75 cisoun: hav you registered? 18:23 cisoun nope 18:23 cisoun I'll think about it 18:27 whiskers75 you should - if anyone uses /umode +R you'll be filtered out as unregistered 18:27 whiskers75 bye folks 18:28 MESEPlaying Anyone know a bug in game? When on 1 computer, 1 minetest works, but with 2, 1 works, the other crashes. Know that from 0.3? 18:31 MESEPlaying q66 18:40 whiskers75 cisoun: registered? 18:41 * whiskers75 is wondering where Calinou went 18:42 NakedFury spam him with pings 18:47 cisoun nope 19:49 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges 19:49 Calinou AGAIN 19:49 Calinou FUCKING 19:49 Calinou SPAM 19:49 thexyz again 19:50 Calinou blocked & undo-d 19:50 thexyz make your MASTER to install antispam 19:50 Calinou he has 19:50 thexyz that's wrong antispam 19:50 Calinou I'd just tell him to disable guest edits imo 19:50 thexyz it doesn't prevent spam 19:50 thexyz no 19:50 thexyz just make it display captcha on any edit 19:50 Calinou the antispam is used to prevent account creation 19:50 thexyz that will be enough 19:50 Calinou any edit? just no 19:50 thexyz that's wrong antispam then 19:50 Calinou the antispam is pretty efficient 19:50 thexyz lol 19:50 Calinou but it is not triggered on guest edits 19:50 thexyz better to disable any edits? 19:50 Calinou -_- 19:50 thexyz that's how it should work 19:50 Calinou the antispam is triggered on account creation 19:51 Calinou that's why no bot creates an account 19:51 thexyz maybe, hide captcha after 1 successful edit 19:51 thexyz that's WRONG antispam then 19:51 thexyz as i already said 19:51 thexyz it should prevent bots 19:51 thexyz it doesn't 19:52 Calinou maybe, hide captcha after 1 successful edit 19:52 Calinou code it 19:52 Calinou well nevermind 19:52 Calinou I'd just disable guest edits imo 19:52 thexyz google is your friend 19:52 Calinou 99% of them are idiots 19:52 thexyz that's bad 19:52 Calinou why? 19:52 Calinou people should lrn2account 19:53 thexyz because some people (like marktraceur i think) don't like creating new accounts 19:53 Calinou or yes, the antispam should be triggered for every guest edit 19:53 thexyz so captcha-that-hides-after-successful-edit is the saniest solution 19:53 thexyz or every 5 edits 19:53 thexyz i think mediawiki should has some extensions for that 19:53 Calinou again I'm no real admin :( 19:54 thexyz i know, that's bad 19:54 thexyz when you has no control on thing 19:54 thexyz and creator of that thing does not care 19:54 thexyz umm… who said "minetest"? 19:54 Calinou huh 19:56 mrdragons Woot, just picked up a nice cheap vps, will be setting up a server. :D 19:56 marktraceur thexyz: /me doesn't mind creating accounts, it's creating accounts with non-free software that worries me more 19:56 thexyz mrdragons: what hoster? 19:57 mrdragons "dollarvps.com", I know the guy that hosts them 19:57 thexyz lol 19:57 thexyz Not Found 19:57 thexyz The requested URL /sharedhosting.php was not found on this server. 19:57 mrdragons Yeah lol 19:57 Calinou mrdragons> Woot, just picked up a nice cheap vps, will be setting up a server. :D 19:58 Calinou inb4 fucktons and griefing and noone connects 19:58 Calinou marktraceur> thexyz: /me doesn't mind creating accounts, it's creating accounts with non-free software that worries me more 19:58 Calinou mediawiki is proprietary? 19:58 Calinou why does wikipedia use it then, if they want to be free? 19:58 thexyz it isnt 19:58 marktraceur Calinou: No, I was only responding to thexyz's comment 19:58 Calinou k 19:58 thexyz but, still 19:58 thexyz don't like to create new accounts 19:59 marktraceur (though it's interesting to note that the Wikimedia Foundation, however good their ultimate goal is, uses many non-free tools) 19:59 thexyz marktraceur: OH HOW AWFUL! 19:59 marktraceur thexyz: Not awful, just suboptimal 19:59 marktraceur The important thing is that the product is free 20:00 thexyz mrdragons: that prices are too low 20:00 marktraceur If the tools are, that's a bonus, but not the priority 20:00 thexyz i don't trust them =( 20:00 mrdragons thexyz: Meh, okay then. :P 20:01 thexyz marktraceur: does he has any reviews? 20:02 marktraceur thexyz: Who? Of what? 20:02 thexyz oops 20:02 thexyz mrdragons: 20:03 thexyz mmm 20:03 thexyz > Creation Date: 22-apr-2012 20:03 marktraceur Guh, nasty. 20:03 mrdragons Sort of, they used to be hosted under another domain, but he split from it because he wanted to manage them himself 20:04 Calinou thexyz, beat you to it 20:04 Calinou account creation date on MT wiki for me: 2012-04-13 20:04 Calinou (if you were talking about MT wiki) 20:04 thexyz Calinou: about 1 dollar vps 20:04 marktraceur Calinou: registration records for this VPS service, methinks 20:04 thexyz not wiki 20:04 Calinou ooh 20:04 Calinou 1dollar vps... impossible 20:04 thexyz also, unrelated, marktraceur do you know any free p2p video streaming software? 20:05 thexyz something like sopcast 20:05 Calinou -_- 20:05 marktraceur thexyz: I just torrent, it's easiest 20:05 * Calinou joins #freenode 20:05 Calinou "hi, we have some guy that likes movies in #minetest, please talk with him" 20:05 thexyz marktraceur: do you also torrent online sports matches? 20:05 Calinou "also this channel is illegal and should be renamed ################minetest." 20:05 Calinou "thank you" 20:05 thexyz of course 20:06 marktraceur thexyz: I've had little interest in such things, but I suppose it might be possible 20:06 thexyz like any other channel 20:06 thexyz 95% of discussion is not about subject 20:07 thexyz Calinou: what's wrong with movies? 20:07 Calinou nothing :P 20:07 Calinou joke :) 20:07 marktraceur thexyz: With sports things, the problem is that the content is exclusively distributed to only a few sources 20:07 thexyz i think i prefer anime 20:07 jordach well here disscusion is never on topic 20:08 Calinou lmao 20:08 thexyz marktraceur: yes, but who cares? 20:08 Calinou hi jordach 20:08 jordach so, youve stopped ignoring me then 20:08 marktraceur thexyz: Your best bet would be to contact them and have them stream in, e.g., OGG formats 20:08 Calinou lol 20:08 thexyz marktraceur: contact who? 20:08 jordach marktraceur, movies should come in .ogv 20:08 Calinou marktraceur, you mean OGV :P 20:08 Calinou noone uses ogv :( 20:08 marktraceur thexyz: Whoever distributes the stuff 20:08 jordach because .avi works 20:08 Calinou dunno why; is it too heavy in size? or bad quality? 20:09 thexyz marktraceur: ok, how should i contact euro2012 staff? 20:09 jordach .avi is a container for video 20:09 thexyz HEY GUYZ! 20:09 Calinou lool 20:09 thexyz wouldn't you like to stream matches for free? 20:09 thexyz OH, WHY NO? 20:09 marktraceur jordach, Calinou, AFAIK OGV is just "OGG Video"; most people tend not to support it out of ignorance or lack of knowing how 20:09 Calinou wouldn't you like to stream matches for free? 20:09 Calinou - torrenting sucks 20:09 Calinou - surely legal 20:09 marktraceur thexyz: I'm sure they have an office or fifty, call one of them 20:09 Calinou - just watch the TV 20:09 Calinou - succer socks 20:10 thexyz Calinou: russian television sucks 20:10 thexyz 99% of time 20:10 thexyz so TV is useless 20:10 jordach except late at night ZOOM ZOOM 20:10 jordach :D 20:10 marktraceur Present the case for free formats, ask them to provide nice streaming video 20:10 thexyz btw, i was talking about p2p streaming 20:10 Calinou Present the case for free formats, ask them to provide nice streaming video 20:10 marktraceur Oh right 20:10 Calinou *** director has joined #minetest 20:11 Calinou whats a free format??????????? 20:11 Calinou anyone? :( 20:11 thexyz currently most of people just restream TV 20:11 Calinou *** director has left #minetest 20:11 Calinou thexyz, resulting in even worse quality :P 20:11 thexyz no 20:11 marktraceur Calinou: Do you actually talk, or have your alters all taken over? 20:11 thexyz 720p, i guess 20:12 Calinou I actually talk. 20:12 marktraceur thexyz: I haven't seen anything like that, maybe not looking hard enough 20:12 thexyz the worst thing is that sopcast bans unlicensed channels from time to time 20:12 thexyz usually during match 20:13 thexyz then you still can watch that channel (because it is p2p) untill reconnect 20:13 Calinou p2p: "hey, don't limit your upload to 0 kb/sec, but I can't tell him" 20:13 thexyz esp-ita 2-0, if anybody cares 20:13 * Calinou does not care 20:14 thexyz Calinou: why would somebody limit their upload? 20:15 Calinou because, faster download 20:15 VanessaE if you don't, depending on your OS, you'll find yourself without enough upstream left to do anything useful otherwise 20:15 Calinou if you upload, torrenting is slower than direct download 20:15 thexyz oh 20:15 Calinou what does this have to do with the OS? 20:15 VanessaE Calinou: because I could see the argument where one OS has better QoS than another 20:15 Calinou inb4 linux 20:15 VanessaE no, not really 20:15 VanessaE in fact linux sucks in that regard 20:16 VanessaE torrent will totally flood your upstream if you don't throttle it at the client 20:16 thexyz i guess that's called symmetric channel? 20:16 marktraceur Calinou: Linux was in by 1991, you're 21 years too slow 20:16 VanessaE symmetric, unless I miss your definition, means the same bandwidth up and down. 20:17 thexyz maybe i am wrong then 20:17 Calinou marktraceur, thought it was 1997... hmm 20:18 marktraceur December 1991 was the first public release, IIRC 20:24 mrdragons Slackware's been around since 93 I think 20:28 marktraceur Calinou: And Linus Torvalds, saying "inb4 GNU" in 1991, would have been 8 years too slow. Just saying. 20:28 mrdragons Unless he was talking about hurd. ;) 20:28 marktraceur mrdragons: Well, the GNU project :) 20:28 Calinou lol 20:28 Calinou and... richard stallman saying "inb4 computer" would be several decades too slow 20:29 marktraceur Very true 20:30 Calinou spain 3-0 italy 20:30 Calinou o_o 20:30 thexyz yes 20:30 thexyz but, remember, you don't care 20:30 Calinou ik 20:31 marktraceur Though I can't see why RMS would want to preempt discussions of computers, being a programmer 20:31 thexyz russia - greece was a funny match 20:31 thexyz i read that now english has one more verb 20:31 thexyz "to kerzhakov" 20:32 jordach night all 20:32 thexyz 4-0 20:32 thexyz lol 20:51 * VanessaE watches 30001 crash and burn 20:51 thexyz crash? 20:51 VanessaE go try to sign on (remotely) :-) 20:51 thexyz it still has 100% uptime 20:58 MiJyn yo 21:07 VanessaE hey 21:12 MiJyn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR2PHbvS3GQ 21:22 thexyz so ontopic 21:22 thexyz as everything else 21:23 thexyz btw, first song seems to be quite nice 21:23 thexyz if that can be called song, of course 21:39 VanessaE thexyz: server's b0rk3d again :-/ 21:40 MiJyn thexyz, yep 21:40 MiJyn thexyz, if you ended it (like I imagine you did), at least listen to Tristam's I remember. That one is awesome :D 21:53 thexyz also 21:53 thexyz shouldn't "3D Forniture" mod be named "3D Furniture"? 21:54 VanessaE language issue 22:30 thexyz oh, nice, now stresstest is the only server that has 100% uptime ^^ 22:34 MiJyn lol