Time  Nick       Message
18:12 PilzAdam   no activity for 21 days in this channel
18:14 VanessaE   heh
18:14 VanessaE   now you went and blew our record.
18:14 PilzAdam   *evil laugh*
18:14 * VanessaE adjusts the tote board.  "Days without activity:  0"
18:15 * PilzAdam hits VanessaE
18:15 VanessaE   ow.
18:15 PilzAdam   "Days without violence:  0"
20:34 MrDJK      Quick advice question: I've recently found minetest (approx 20-30 minutes ago), now I'm also a LUA newbie (again approx 20-30 minutes ago), but I'm tinkering around, by looking at this guide that's on the forums along with the default mods via Minetest, my little test mod, basically creates to blocks, marble and cracked marble (I like RedPower), now my plan was to check if "marble" is placed next to water, if so turn it into "cracked marble",
20:34 MrDJK      I have it working, I am just wondering if this is the correct way (or the most efficient way) to do it. Code: http://pastie.org/private/szwmqjfj1bss9xs9xwtrq
20:35 MrDJK      Thanks in advance to anyone that answers. :)
20:36 MrDJK      Ps: This is just me tinkering like I say, so it's not going to be an actual mod, which is why Marble has no use, other than to look pretty (though my texturing could use some work), and cracked can be just turned back into marble with 2 of them. :)
20:41 PilzAdam   you should read this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
20:41 MrDJK      I have it open. :)
20:45 PilzAdam   okay, what do you want exactly?
20:46 PilzAdam   and keep it short
20:46 MrDJK      Don't specifically want anything, was just wondering if I was on the right track. ;)
20:46 PilzAdam   is_ground_content has no effect to anything; you can just remove it
20:47 MrDJK      Okay thank you, I also notice flammable shouldn't be there (stone should be fire resisten) :)
20:47 MrDJK      resisten/resistent
20:49 PilzAdam   neighbors = { 'water', 'group:liquid' }, <- the name "water" does not exist
20:49 PilzAdam   it is default:water_source and default:water_flowinf
20:49 PilzAdam   *flowing
20:49 PilzAdam   but you dont need that if you have group:liquid
20:49 MrDJK      Oh, so it's working because in-game water is part of group:liquid.
20:50 PilzAdam   yep
20:50 MrDJK      I think I misunderstood neighbors.
20:50 PilzAdam   but also lava is in liquid
20:50 MrDJK      Ideally I just want water, rather than any liquid, flowing or still no preference there.
20:50 MrDJK      So anyway to achieve that? - water adjecent to the block.
20:51 MrDJK      Also thanks for the advice.
20:51 PilzAdam   neighbours means: one of the 8 surrounding nodes has one of this names/is in one of this groups
20:51 MrDJK      Right.
20:52 PilzAdam   neighbors = { 'default:water_source', 'default:water_flowing' },
20:52 PilzAdam   this would be correct
20:53 PilzAdam   wait... look here: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/init.lua#L1022
20:53 PilzAdam   the group "water" exists
20:53 PilzAdam   and the default water uses it
20:53 MrDJK      Okay, I assume this is just a list, rather than a placement (example recipe is mapped to the crafting slot), which is why I assumed this was the same, but this applies to all 8 surrounding.
20:53 PilzAdam   so you can use "group:water"
20:53 MrDJK      Oh great, thank you.
20:54 PilzAdam   do you want it to turn slowly into the cracked one?
20:54 MrDJK      Yes, I assumed with a 100 chance, it would turn slowly?
20:55 PilzAdam   i would rather use interval = 30; chance = 8
20:55 PilzAdam   this is less CPU intensive
20:56 MrDJK      I see, okay I shall do that, thank you.
20:56 PilzAdam   your code looks realy good
20:57 MrDJK      Thank you, experience, although none with Lua. :)
20:57 PilzAdam   what language?
20:59 MrDJK      I dabble really, so a little Python, little C# (.NET), To much PHP (I'm a web developer)
21:00 PilzAdam   have you visited the forums? http://minetest.net/forum/index.php
21:01 MrDJK      I have, yes and I've seen you're an active (real active) developer, so thanks for taking the time to help urm well a newbie like me. ;)
21:02 PilzAdam   thats why Im here :-)
21:03 MrDJK      :)
21:03 PilzAdam   and you have done all this in 20-30 minutes?
21:03 MrDJK      Maybe less.
21:03 MrDJK      Including poor textures.
21:04 PilzAdam   thats fast
21:04 MrDJK      But I really just opened up the init.lua file for default, and looked how it was done there (and assumed it was the way to go), along with that handy guide by urm...
21:04 MrDJK      'Jeija'
21:05 PilzAdam   hes a great modder
21:05 MrDJK      :)
21:06 PilzAdam   he made this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=628
21:06 PilzAdam   one of the best mods for MT
21:06 MrDJK      Awesome!
21:08 MrDJK      Those edits you suggested are working fine. :D
21:08 MrDJK      Time for more tinkering around. :D
21:09 PilzAdam   you should browse the forum and look at the code of other mods
21:09 PilzAdam   Lua has way more potential then most people think
21:09 PilzAdam   s/Lua/the Lua APO
21:09 PilzAdam   *API
21:09 MrDJK      I think I shall.
21:10 PilzAdam   and give you more time than 20 minutes ;-)
21:11 MrDJK      Hehe.
21:11 MrDJK      Like I say I've only just found it, and thought it looked cool, then started to tinker.
21:12 MrDJK      I like the fact this actually has a mod api, opposed to well community created apis.
21:12 PilzAdam   this is the only reason i stay here
21:13 PilzAdam   i code more than i play
21:13 MrDJK      Oooh, I play more than I code... :P
21:14 MrDJK      Which is probably why I get nothing done.
21:14 PilzAdam   the default game without mods it boring
21:15 PilzAdam   I and the other devs want to change that
21:15 MrDJK      I have one mod installed, that crafting-guide thing.
21:16 PilzAdam   you dont need that if you have this: http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=crafting
21:16 MrDJK      But either way, the whole idea of games is there's a community developing addons.
21:16 MrDJK      Well if a game has a modding community, it makes the game just that more fun and longer-lasting in terms of gameplay.
21:17 MrDJK      Oh that's handy, I didn't notice that. >_< thanks.
21:17 PilzAdam   this is from 0.3, but to get the basics its enough
21:17 PilzAdam   most people dont look at the developer wiki
21:18 MrDJK      I found it, I just didn't look at the crafting section >_< went straight to global functions.
21:19 PilzAdam   lol
21:19 PilzAdam   theres also a crafting page in the normal wiki: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting
21:20 PilzAdam   its up-to-date
21:20 PilzAdam   (more or less)
21:20 MrDJK      Okay, thanks.
21:20 MrDJK      lol
21:21 MrDJK      Brb