Time  Nick          Message
14:57 Jordach       VanessaE - FreeBSD or Ubuntu 12.10 64-Bit
14:58 PilzAdam      Ubuntu +1
14:58 thexyz        wtf
14:59 thexyz        why you aren't comparing ubuntu with stone?
15:00 thexyz        i guess that comparsion would has as much sense as yours
15:01 Jordach       thexyz - hey, its just make for updates
15:02 VanessaE      beats me, I haven't used freebsd since the 90's I think it was
15:02 thexyz        ?
15:02 thexyz        nobody uses freebsd
15:04 Jordach       feckin linuxarians
15:09 VanessaE      change of subject:  what's the image order for textures= in an entity?
15:09 VanessaE      same as a regular cube, right?
15:09 VanessaE      (+y, -y, +x, -x, +z, -z  ?)
15:09 Jordach       yes
15:10 VanessaE      ok
15:10 PilzAdam      depends on drawtyoe
15:10 PilzAdam      *drawtype
15:10 VanessaE      these are drawn as a cube.
15:10 VanessaE      (I'm adding textures to something jeija is working on)
15:14 Jordach       PilzAdam - embrace something other than craziness
15:14 Jordach       thexyz - no i want to be free and not attached to gpl
15:14 Jordach       VanessaE - bsd is almost wtfpl
15:15 thexyz        lol
15:15 VanessaE      heh
15:15 thexyz        in which way are you attached to gpl?
15:15 Jordach       no distributing bins
15:15 Jordach       it sucks
15:15 thexyz        what?
15:15 Jordach       binaries
15:16 Jordach       bleh
15:16 Jordach       esp. if im going to do coding
15:16 thexyz        and what's problem here?
15:16 Jordach       and open source my stuff
15:16 thexyz        aaaand?
15:16 Jordach       i want to provide a already done binary without having to goto downloads on github
15:17 Jordach       (and provide a win bin for them)
15:17 thexyz        aaaaand why can't you do that?
15:17 Jordach       because fuck gpl
15:17 thexyz        it seems you don't understand gpl
15:17 Jordach       bas is approx 100x faster - NO DRIVERS IN KERNEL
15:18 Jordach       s/bas/bsd
15:18 thexyz        yes, you are right here
15:18 thexyz        BSD = no drivers
15:18 thexyz        period
15:18 Jordach       noinononononono
15:18 Jordach       you do not understand bsd
15:19 Jordach       i can start with stable v1 and go straight to current without problems
15:19 thexyz        maybe
15:19 Jordach       can your linux do that?
15:19 Jordach       without dying?
15:19 thexyz        do what?
15:19 Jordach       update from v1 to the -dev without failing
15:19 thexyz        umm...
15:19 Jordach       im talking of the 1990 kernel
15:19 thexyz        my gentoo does not have any -dev packages
15:20 Jordach       gentoo is alright
15:20 thexyz        oh, nice
15:20 thexyz        let's talk about features nobody will use
15:20 Jordach       alright
15:20 thexyz        anyway, that's up to you to choose your OS
15:20 thexyz        i just wanted to say that you don't understand gpl
15:20 thexyz        gpl doesn't stop you from releasing binaries
15:21 thexyz        and you don't have to use gpl if you're coding your project in linux-based distro
15:22 Jordach       no i mean the os if i fix something major and wish to release
15:23 thexyz        and what's problem here?
15:24 Jordach       no idea maybe im just a little cloudy
15:24 Jordach       VanessaE - would 64bit ubuntu work on a p4?
15:24 VanessaE      if newer than 2004 I guess yeah
15:25 Jordach       2006 cedar mill (i think)
15:25 VanessaE      dunno for sure, I use AMD.
15:25 VanessaE      2006 is probably fine...try it? :-)
15:25 Jordach       lga775
15:26 thexyz        Jordach: do cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags
15:27 Jordach       WIN32
15:27 Jordach       DUH
15:27 thexyz        lol
15:28 Jordach       VanessaE INTEL P4 Presscott
15:29 VanessaE      just try it :-)
15:29 Jordach       em64t
15:30 * Jordach     waits for download of ubuntu to finish
15:30 VanessaE      I *assume* you grabbed 12.04 AMD64. :-()
15:30 VanessaE      :-)
15:30 Jordach       AMD?
15:30 VanessaE      yeah
15:30 VanessaE      x86_64
15:30 Jordach       ohhh
15:30 VanessaE      (same thing now, AMD64 is the same thing now)
15:30 VanessaE      HAH!
15:30 Jordach       yeah my gpu is 64bit on a 32 os so yep, im 64bit cpu
15:31 Jordach       why didnt MS go x64 when it came out?
15:31 VanessaE      Oh did I mention that I work for the Department of Redundancy Department?  I'm in charge of dealing with excess overages and surplus extras.
15:31 VanessaE      eh, too much i386/x86 legacy
15:31 VanessaE      too much inertia, you know
15:33 Jordach       yep
15:46 Jordach       VanessaE - redundancy?
15:57 Jordach       96%done
15:59 Jordach       verifying
16:02 Jordach       i as right about em64t
16:02 Jordach       thats 64birt
16:04 Jordach       VanessaE http://pastebin.com/hbbMB9JX
16:07 VanessaE      *shrug* I ain't no expert on CPUs :-)
16:07 VanessaE      yet another reason to avoid intel ;)
16:08 Jordach       my last tower was amd
16:08 Jordach       blew the psu
16:08 Jordach       sse1 running sse2 instructions bridghe
16:08 Jordach       at 1.2ghz (duron)
16:08 Jordach       bbl
16:09 Jordach       (testing)
16:16 jordach-tab   almost there :-)
16:52 jordach-tab   vanessae, installed fine unity3d is laggin me out
16:53 VanessaE      solution:  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
16:53 VanessaE      then log out and back in with XFCE
16:53 VanessaE      traditional desktop metaphor restored. :-)
16:54 thexyz        jordach-tab: time to download debian
16:55 jordach-tab   no. :-)
16:56 * jordach-tab stays smug about bsd being better :-)
16:57 thexyz        have you tried it?
16:57 thexyz        (because i haven't)
16:57 jordach-tab   now, we find out.
16:59 jordach-tab   bsd is kde but better
16:59 thexyz        wtf
17:00 jordach-tab   kernel is way different, but the ui is kde :-)
17:01 jordach-tab   FUCK.
17:02 jordach-tab   one reboot later, the ui appears :-)
17:02 jordach-tab   damn you unity
17:09 jordach       better
17:10 VanessaE      what is?
17:11 jordach       its all working now
17:12 VanessaE      and "all" is..what?
17:12 VanessaE      some kde knockoff, or XFCE goodness? ;-)
17:15 jordach       unity works
17:15 VanessaE      ew.
17:21 jordach       aaaaaaaannnnndddddd?
17:22 VanessaE      I'm strictly a desktop user.  the tablet metaphor of unity just does not work on the desktop IMHO.
17:22 VanessaE      on tablets/phones, sure I guess
17:22 jordach       I OWN A TABLET
17:24 * jordach     tries minetest - HOLY SHIT
17:26 VanessaE      oh.
17:27 jordach       oh christ 64bit is fast
17:27 * jordach     needs to get used to this
17:29 jordach       64 is like red bull
17:29 jordach       s/64/64bit
17:33 jordach       VanessaE - my server will be up in a min :D
17:34 VanessaE      busy right now..
17:34 jordach       just saying
17:58 jordach       mt runs at a rock steady 40fpd
17:59 VanessaE      yes, significant improvement in 0.4.3
17:59 VanessaE      I saw a 10 or 15fps gain
17:59 VanessaE      with 521px textures yet
18:08 jordach       521 ?
18:09 VanessaE      512
18:12 jordach       lol
18:12 jordach       just messin'.
19:12 jordach       server works
19:12 jordach       girlfriend tested