Time  Nick             Message
14:31 tenplus1         Hi folks
14:31 tenplus1         hey Krock
14:32 Krock            hi tenplus1
14:32 tenplus1         how's things ?
14:43 Krock            normal. nothing interesting
14:43 tenplus1         heh, same...  psyching myself up to deal with all the deprecation messages in mods
14:56 tenplus1         thanks devs (and contributers) for Minetest 5.1 stable :P
15:02 tenplus1         hi Buckaroo
15:04 BuckarooBanzai07 oh hi, my irc app decided to reconnect again :/
15:04 BuckarooBanzai07 how are things tenplus1?
15:04 tenplus1         good thanks, yourself ?
15:05 BuckarooBanzai07 not bad, too little time for minetest but otherwise ok :)
15:05 tenplus1         I hear ya, real life beckons most times
15:11 tenplus1         wb
15:38 tenplus1         hi aerozoic
15:39 aerozoic         wazup tenplus1 !
15:39 tenplus1         :P how's you dude ?
15:40 tenplus1         working here and trying to find time to tinker with mods really
15:46 aerozoic         i'm doin ok, wasting time on twitch XD
15:46 tenplus1         heh, never actually tried twitch
15:47 aerozoic         you should, i'm sure you find something interesting!
15:47 aerozoic         you will*
15:47 tenplus1         thanks, will give it a look see :P
15:47 aerozoic         ;)
15:48 tenplus1         catch ya'll later :) nom time
15:48 aerozoic         cyaz
16:02 Krock            using 4 interrupts with shared variables. what could possibly go wrong?
18:14 IhrFussel        Krock, did something happen?
18:17 Krock            IhrFussel: nah, just the protection and my house's door is gone
18:17 Krock            fixed it
18:17 IhrFussel        Oh I thought you joined for testing or to tell me a bug/exploit xP
18:18 Krock            that's a bug
18:18 Krock            nah, just saw it on the server list and checked it out
19:00 IhrFussel        How can MT 5.1.0 load a mapblock from a 65 GB in under 0.2 secs? IIRC my server often spiked to 0.3 in 0.4.17.1 when traveling quickly
19:00 IhrFussel        65 GB map*
19:08 Krock            IhrFussel: had to tell what happened in >1000 commits
19:12 IhrFussel        Well I wonder why sauth causes 30-40 ms lag with just 200,000 rows in the DB and MT with way more likely is faster ... is it really just 2 vs 4 columns?
19:13 sfan5            loading a mapblock from your db is also sqlite's job
19:13 sfan5            or postgres, whatever you use
19:14 IhrFussel        1 row in map.sqlite is 16 KB right? Or was it 4?
19:16 Krock            depends on zlib compression and metadata
19:17 Krock            but you can roughly estimate the size. 16³ * 5 bytes, plus node name string to ID lookup, object metadata, timer data and node metadata
19:18 Krock            * 4 bytes
19:19 Krock            so yes, it could be around 16 KiB, but also way larger (metadata and objects) or a bit smaller (air only)
19:19 IhrFussel        So is 10 a good average?
19:20 Krock            In average I'd rather assume 20 KiB or so
19:20 IhrFussel        ok then I'll try 20
19:20 sfan5            you'd be surprised with how much metadata some mods store
19:20 Krock            yet there are also many regular nodes without any metadata
19:20 IhrFussel        I get 3.5 million mapblocks then
19:21 IhrFussel        Not sure if that math sounds right
19:22 Krock            that's 28k mapchunks. not bad.
19:22 Krock            ~46.6 minutes spent in total on map generation (could be in parallel, though)
19:22 sfan5            > sqlite3 map.sqlite 'select avg(length(data)) / 1024 from blocks;'
19:23 sfan5            returns average size of mapblock in KiB (requires sqlite tools installed)
21:00 VanessaE         ^ that sequence of quit messages is just too perfect. :)
21:58 TommyTreasure    still no 5.1.0 debian ppa?  :(
23:16 VanessaE         debian.... ppa....  Parse error on line 0, aborted.
23:19 TommyTreasure    well darn
23:20 TommyTreasure    line 0 = ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/stable  :)
23:21 TommyTreasure    or am i using an incorrect repo?
23:21 VanessaE         yep
23:21 VanessaE         PPAs are only meant for Ubuntu, not Debian.
23:22 VanessaE         (even though it's Debian-based, it ain't pure Debian)
23:22 TommyTreasure    :)
23:22 VanessaE         still, stop being lazy and just 'build it from source. :)
23:22 VanessaE         -'
23:23 TommyTreasure    i really should. after all, my first build was on a slackware box