Time Nick Message 12:44 IhrFussel He doesn't learn https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=345872#p345872 12:45 IhrFussel Still claiming that clients can access any item they want...well yes they can IF your inventory mods are missing player action checks 12:53 jas_ hi IhrFussel 12:56 IhrFussel Hello jas_ 13:29 IhrFussel Does on_place() require returning an itemstack if I want to cancel it? 13:30 jas_ Shall place item and return the leftover itemstack." 13:31 jas_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L5886 13:31 jas_ so yes, it needs to return an itemstack 13:32 jas_ whether it actually places the item is up to you; by default it runs minetest.item_place, but not necessarily 13:32 IhrFussel Hm...cause I see code that only uses 'return' and it seems to work 13:32 jas_ hm, ok, well i am just guessing, based on the text there. 13:32 IhrFussel It's inside a register_craftitem() if that makes a difference 13:32 jas_ i don't think it makes a difference 13:33 jas_ i would try right now but am watching fifth wave and eating pizza 13:34 IhrFussel Well I see if pointed_thing.type ~= "node" then return end 13:34 jas_ (then ice cream, i have a plan.) 13:34 jas_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L5812 13:34 jas_ tool/craftitem/node 13:35 IhrFussel Just 'return' seems to behave the same as 'return itemstack' 13:35 jas_ oh, interesting 13:35 IhrFussel Cause nothing is lost when I try placing it in air for example 13:36 jas_ makes sense, i guess, per this wording: "shall return itemstack" 13:36 jas_ i'm also drinking a guiness 13:36 IhrFussel Maybe they mean 'if you want to handle the taking manually it needs to return an itemstack' 13:37 IhrFussel Like 'itemstack:take_item() return itemstack' 13:37 jas_ i wonder what happens if you return true/false/nil -- i prolly tried before, don't recall now 13:37 jas_ i recently quit smoking, and am packing on the weight 15:38 sofar rubenwardy: if you have a sec, can you change the contentdb owner for pixel perfection to tacotexmex? 16:53 benrob0329 o/ red-045 17:03 red-045 \o benrob0329 17:20 Fixer \\o 17:50 Fixer "In the Minecraft: PE application, all chunks are stored in Mojang’s fork of LevelDB (a ZLib compressed LevelDB database" 17:50 Fixer interesting.png 17:51 tenplus1 hi folks :) 17:52 twoelk o/ 17:52 Fixer \\o 17:52 tenplus1 hey twoelk o/ fixer \o 17:52 tenplus1 what's new ? 17:52 twoelk winter was back but left again :D 17:52 Fixer .... 17:52 tenplus1 snuck in there for a bit huh ? 17:53 * twoelk seems a day late 17:54 tenplus1 I updated my Os to Kubuntu 19.04 (daily) running linux kernel 5.0 and Minetest 5.0 stable :) is niiiiiiiiice! 17:54 twoelk stable? are you sure? 17:55 tenplus1 very much so 17:55 tenplus1 am even using open-source noveau for mynvidia gfx and it's pretty good 17:56 twoelk I seem to get random crashes but might be simply that the minimum requirements of minetest have gone up a wee bit 17:57 jas_ i think i'm gonna be sick 17:57 tenplus1 hi jas 17:57 * jas_ moans 17:57 tenplus1 twoelk: I can run my desktop and minetest 5 and it only uses around 600mb total 17:57 jas_ i ate so much. hi tenplus1 17:57 tenplus1 what did you nom ? 17:57 * twoelk had been sick last week 17:58 jas_ pizza, and beer, and ice cream, and i just downed a bunch of milk. mmm, milk. 17:58 jas_ oh and chicks and cheese dip. oh god what have i done 17:58 twoelk tried something heavier tenplus1 17:58 tenplus1 ooh, sounds like it's curdling in your tummy :P 17:58 tenplus1 what did you run twoelk? 17:59 twoelk beer+icecream+milk sounds like a bubbly connection to mix and shakewell before ... PURP 17:59 tenplus1 if you added that to a fgood mod the player would quickly spew right after :P 18:00 twoelk dreambuilder, bogart, mymillionsofflowers and such :D 18:00 tenplus1 hi Unarelith 18:01 Unarelith hi 10+1 o/ 18:01 tenplus1 so far Xanadu (standalone) runs fine in 5.0, had to tweak horse so player doesnt float above it :D 18:01 twoelk tried to study plant spawning, so flew around a lot 18:02 tenplus1 I may tweak Farming Redo so that each crop has it's own rarety value 18:03 tenplus1 if only there was a way to change decoration values in-game and regenerate the same area for testing 18:04 twoelk might be interesting if you had different crops to provide similar resources but according to biome 18:05 tenplus1 it sorta does, bamboo = (wood, paper), papyrus = (wood, paper, sugar), hemp = (wood, paper, string, oil) :P 18:05 tenplus1 although it could use some tweaking... ideas welcome twoelk :P 18:05 twoelk so barley in cold places, wheat in dry places and rice in warm and wet places all provide flour or along them lines 18:06 tenplus1 yeah the granary bread can be made from all 3 :) but not as nutritious as wheat bread 18:07 twoelk I would keep the same nutrition but differ the harvest yeald according to biome 18:07 tenplus1 even the snow biome has firethorn bushels in Ethereal that can be made into a jelly when prepared 18:09 twoelk yeah every biome should offer something, even though resources in some biomes would be rarer in generall - a desert simply is a desert 18:10 tenplus1 cactus pulp made into juice, nasty but nutritious :D 18:11 twoelk so have you extended your alcoholic effects to toxic effects yet? 18:12 twoelk I wonder if distorting the view with a color overlay after eating some shrooms would work 18:12 tenplus1 when you drink/eat 4x alcoholic drinks from wine mod it changes your hunger bar to green, makes you stagger for 60 seconds and prints a messag e:) players find it fun 18:12 tenplus1 that would be a fun addition also :) 18:13 tenplus1 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8494&hilit=xanadu&start=3525#p345876 18:14 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13642&p=344600#p344600 18:14 tenplus1 5.0 lets you adjust fog levels, so going blind in a sense would work 18:15 twoelk ooh moonlighting with consquences - cool 18:15 tenplus1 heh, only used {alcohol=1} cause it's the only effect :) and easy to remember 18:16 tenplus1 we really need player:set_velocity player:set_acceleration to be able to do most of thos eeffects 18:16 tenplus1 but thankfully player knockback on playerplus mod will work fine now on 5.0 since the detach bug is fixed 18:17 twoelk trying to jump a block or go up stairs could be translated to stagering back a few steps 18:18 tenplus1 yeh, or slowing player down on purpose and lack of jumping ability :D 18:18 tenplus1 ehehehe 18:19 benrob0329 Hello tenplus1 18:19 tenplus1 good news, the lucky block "Pint Sized Player" works a lot better in 5.0 :) midget sized players 18:19 tenplus1 hi benrob o/// 18:20 tenplus1 and we can now change player collisionbox, so walking into 1x1 spaces will work :D yuay 18:20 twoelk blockmens adventuretest had spiders that sort of immobilezed the player for some time - enough to let me starve often after beating spiders 18:21 tenplus1 that's a good idea, have a specific spider in mobs redo poison the player and if POVA or player_monoids active immobalize them 18:21 twoelk hm, so letting the player crawl on all fours should be possible now as effect :o 18:21 tenplus1 yeh :) just need a model for that... would be handy for flying/swimming 18:27 tenplus1 the player model could do with some additional effects :D 18:27 tenplus1 animations 18:29 twoelk I was quite surprised how popular the avatar dance moves became in WoW 18:29 tenplus1 ehehe, give it time and someone will do a player dance contest 18:30 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEz8dlR9H3I 18:30 twoelk lol, beenthere, donethat, didntgettheprize 18:34 tenplus1 :P 18:34 twoelk someone did let sam dance in a minecart in mt once - just can't find the link 18:36 tenplus1 lol, never seen that one :D 18:43 tenplus1 all the ideas for 5.1 :P heh 18:48 * tenplus1 wonders if the mapgen layers are in 5.0 as yet ?!"?! 18:55 tenplus1 hi ssieb 18:55 ssieb hi 18:55 tenplus1 :P 18:56 twoelk hrmpf, crashed bogart again 18:56 tenplus1 bogart ? 18:57 twoelk the mt-game 18:57 tenplus1 ahh, dont think I've tried that one... what crashed (mod) ? 18:57 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=21712 18:58 twoelk seems I lack memory :P 18:58 tenplus1 oom error ? 18:58 twoelk sort of 18:58 tenplus1 how much memory you got ? 18:59 twoelk but there are quite a few games I still want to test with mt5 18:59 twoelk 4gb ram or thereabouts 19:00 tenplus1 that's more than enough I would imagine 19:00 twoelk but win32 19:00 tenplus1 win 7 ? 19:00 twoelk no win 10 on 32bitsystem 19:00 tenplus1 ahhh, gotcha... 19:01 tenplus1 many things you can disable in w10 to save ram that may help 19:02 twoelk office machine, so I rather not change much - maybe minetest doesn't like runing from a portable hdd as much anymore 19:03 tenplus1 shouldnt make a difference, just slower load times 19:03 twoelk running from usb stick worked better in the past iirc 19:05 tenplus1 am wondering if I should keep 0.4.17 versions of my mods or switch them over to 5.0 ?!?! 19:08 twoelk definitly keep some copies in a safe place 19:08 tenplus1 yeah, I do want to implement some newer features into them though, and of course the new biomes into Ethereal 19:09 twoelk might also be usefull for debuging 19:10 tenplus1 I really like notabug.org :P 19:10 * twoelk prepares to drive home 19:10 tenplus1 o/ safe journey 19:12 twoelk snow's all gone so should be easier than yesterday 19:12 tenplus1 *shiver* sounds cold 19:19 tenplus1 coffee time, laters all o/ 19:29 twoelk bye 19:29 twoelk o/ 19:50 kaeza whoami 19:50 kaeza k 19:50 kaeza Client keeps disconnecting for reasons. 19:51 * kaeza considers installing some IRC client under Termux. 19:52 kaeza Any recommendations? 20:01 luk3yx If you have a physical keyboard, WeeChat. 20:02 benrob0329 If you don't, there are other front ends for it 20:03 kaeza I think I've seen one in F-Droid. 20:03 kaeza WeeChat frontend I mean. 20:04 kaeza https://f-droid.org/app/com.ubergeek42.WeechatAndroid 20:05 kaeza USB keyboard seems to be broken :( 20:11 rubenwardy Quassel is objectively the best 20:11 rubenwardy :D 20:13 luk3yx You could install WeeChat (or probably Quassel) onto a server and set the relay module up, then connect WeeChat Android to that. 20:14 luk3yx You could install WeeChat (or probably Quassel) onto a server and set the relay module up, then connect WeeChat Android to that. 20:20 Calinou the Quasseldroid app is much better now 20:20 Calinou it's probably worth trying Quassel :) the desktop client is still nice too 20:21 rubenwardy I'm a patron of the Quasseldroid dev 20:21 rubenwardy she's awesome 20:21 rubenwardy #quasseldroid 20:21 rubenwardy Quassel is modern IRC 20:22 rubenwardy your messages are stored on a server - called a quassel-core 20:22 rubenwardy then clients request messages from the server 20:22 rubenwardy it means that all clients have consistent unlimited scrollback 20:22 rubenwardy unlike with ZNC 20:23 rubenwardy fun fact: the people who make IrcCloud used to Quassel contributors 20:23 rubenwardy so IrcCloud is basically a proprietary Quassel :) 20:28 sofar quassel is awesome 20:28 sofar and, it's in clearlinux too :) 20:28 rubenwardy what is clearlinux 20:28 rubenwardy someone keeps mentioning 20:28 rubenwardy it 20:28 VanessaE bah. znc + hexchat or gtfo :) 20:29 rubenwardy ZNC really sucks with multiple clients 20:29 sofar quassel does a lot better with backlog 20:29 rubenwardy ^ 20:29 sofar plus mobile phone client that works 20:29 rubenwardy yes 20:29 rubenwardy Quasseldroid is the only IRC Android client that I like 20:29 rubenwardy except IRCCloud, but: proprietary 20:31 IcyDiamond Pfft peasants, weechat ftw :) 20:31 kaeza Hmm, no Quassel core under Termux :/ 20:32 kaeza The WeeChat version there also send to be quite old (?) 20:32 kaeza Seems* 20:33 kaeza Bah, staying with this POC it is. 20:40 Calinou rubenwardy: Clear Linux is a Linux distribution developed by Intel, it drops support for old hardware to build better-performing packages 20:40 Calinou the difference is small, but it's there 20:40 Calinou (Phoronix benchmarks it regularly) 20:42 sofar Calinou: he knows :) 20:42 sofar the sarcasm is currently being mopped up 20:43 rubenwardy it's like that fortnite thing, never quite got it 20:43 rubenwardy is it twice a week or every two weeks? 20:43 rubenwardy no one knows 20:43 Calinou heh 20:44 Calinou sorry, I don't always understand sarcasm over text 20:44 sofar yeah, right 20:51 rubenwardy TIL there's an XKCD IRC channel 21:34 jas_ Longtime ago 21:55 * rubenwardy braces himself for bad food regulation, Scottish independence, the reunification of Ireland, privatisation of the NHS, "religious freedom", removal of anti-discrimination laws, more austerity 22:01 sofar and global warming 22:01 Fixer you will like that warming 22:01 Fixer don't youuuu 22:02 sofar honestly I loved having the snow around 22:02 sofar but global warming creates extreme weather so there is a larger chance of heavy snowfall 22:03 sofar but yeah, summer is going to suck if we're stuck in forest fire smoke for 2+ months each year and summer temperatures go from unbearable to thebeariscoockedable 22:10 * xerox123 high fives rubenwardy 22:19 Fixer my summers sucked before it went mainstream 22:19 Fixer i will miss snow :( 22:19 Fixer it was already too little of it 23:12 paramat Emerald2 "what would be really helpful is to have a basic lua mapgen" see https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19836 23:13 * red-045 checks time till brexit 23:14 Emerald2 Hey paramat! 23:16 IhrFussel Brexit might not even happen anymore, but who knows if they think they can handle a no-deal one 23:25 Emerald2 Thanks paramat. Funny, sofar linked me to that code yesterday. :)