Time  Nick         Message
11:21 sfan5        rubenwardy: https://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/ah3cl1/anyone_else_having_trouble_playing_this_in/
11:21 sfan5        since you seem to be somewhat involved in android
11:24 rubenwardy   This will be due to Monte's chabfes
15:59 IhrFussel    What kind of game server requires 55 GB RAM! I saw someone saying that... they said 200 players 55 GB memory usage... I can only imagine that the game must be extremely unoptimized
16:35 rubenwardy   that's 220MB per player
16:36 rubenwardy   bare in mind things like redundancy and caching
16:37 rubenwardy   is that a clusterised server? Because that would make more sense
16:37 rubenwardy   the 55GB would be over multiple servers
17:01 nerzhul      55GB wow it's more than the entire world database in memoery
17:01 nerzhul      i generated full MT map on my server 2 years ago it only take 14GB or ram
17:02 IhrFussel    Nope...so it happened in a discussion forum of a server hoster ... they said they currently got a server with 64 GB but asked for one with 128 GB cause 55 GB are already in use ... I'm not sure why a server would need 200+ MB RAM per player
17:04 rubenwardy   heh
17:04 rubenwardy   at that scale, they should parallelise
17:07 IhrFussel    MC servers don't require 50+ GB for 200 players right? Else how would they be able to handle thousands?
17:07 * rubenwardy is currently revising for cloud computing
17:07 rubenwardy   MC doesn't support thousands of players
17:07 rubenwardy   natively
17:07 rubenwardy   servers with thousands of players on them will be clusterised using proxies and such
17:08 IhrFussel    MC has a hard coded player limit?
17:08 rubenwardy   no, but like MT MC is majorly single threaded
17:09 IhrFussel    The new version too? Not sure what it#s called...the crossplay-version
17:09 rubenwardy   bedrock
17:09 rubenwardy   I'm not sure about that
17:09 rubenwardy   it's likely to be more performant
17:11 IhrFussel    It claims to be able to generate "truly infinite" worlds via storing map parts on MS servers or something...I think
17:12 IhrFussel    At least the mobile version of it is like that AFAIK...cause space is very limited
18:21 Calinou      Minecraft worlds can be really large already, storage space will be your limit before technical limits
18:22 Calinou      I think it behaves well past ±100,000 now (floating-point precision errors are less visible… maybe they switched to doubles?)
18:22 Calinou      in old versions, the game "worked" there but there were display issues with particles and such
19:56 Fixer        Calinou: played in beta on 100k, was okay
21:12 paramat      "truly infinite worlds" eh? i see ...
21:12 * paramat    para-lels
21:15 paramat      but then, not quite as silly as "almost infinite" =)
22:05 IhrFussel    Well before console versions had size limits... I think weaker consoles only had 800x800 or so...now they can (in theory) have unlimited size
22:07 rubenwardy   IcyDiamond: the background image in the jumbotron on the home page of https://icynet.eu doesn't appear to load
22:07 rubenwardy   not sure if intentional or not
22:08 rubenwardy   also, you have a github icon for your open source "feature" box
22:08 rubenwardy   https://i.rubenwardy.com/BGh7i.png
22:08 rubenwardy   lol
22:11 IcyDiamond   rubenwardy: there is no background image :P
22:11 IcyDiamond   Oh yeah, I never noticed that
22:11 IcyDiamond   XD
22:12 rubenwardy   nice :D
22:22 rubenwardy   I've think I've found a Discord server, but also not sure what I've found
22:26 rubenwardy   anyhow, I'm going to stop procastinating now
23:23 * Sokomine   abducts some npc mobs and tries to teach them to do something productive...
23:23 IcyDiamond   I made a POC that made them build schematics
23:24 IcyDiamond   Search for npcbuildqueue on forum
23:25 rubenwardy   !mod npcbuildqueue
23:25 MinetestBot  rubenwardy: NPC Build Queue API [npcbuildqueue] by IcyDiamond - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=20532
23:25 IcyDiamond   It should be renamed to a POC
23:25 rubenwardy   also, I've been meaning to get around to making an NPC library
23:25 rubenwardy   like, entities are quite low level
23:25 IcyDiamond   It's not intended to be a mod or api
23:25 rubenwardy   but heh, time
23:25 IcyDiamond   More of an example
23:25 rubenwardy   lol
23:26 IcyDiamond   Probably warrants topic moving to smth like modding discussions then
23:32 Sokomine     IcyDiamond: hmm. that's not exactly what i'm looking for. my mod places the schematics already. all i need are mobs that...pretend to build the houses. they're mostly supposed to run around, move to nodes where there's work to do, call a function, and move on to the next node
23:46 kaeza        Wasn't there a mood that did that?
23:47 kaeza        Maybe you can build on it.
23:47 kaeza        By cornernote, IIRC.
23:47 kaeza        Er, mod.
23:50 Sokomine     yes, towntest. and some other mods which do similar things. but in all these mods, the mobs are afaik "aware" of the build plan and steered accordingly. in my case, the mob doesn't know about the big plan. it can be much more stupid and just randomly work on those blocks next to it
23:54 Sokomine     where's ten? perhaps some of his mobs could be taught to do some work