Time  Nick          Message
14:39 IhrFussel     I need HELP ... as soon as I try to start my server it just STOPS again with NO error in the log
14:40 IhrFussel     It only says announcing server and after biome_lib already does its cleaning for shutdown 2018-12-15 15:38:29: ACTION[Server]: Announcing to servers.minetest.net
14:40 IhrFussel     [biome_lib] Stand by, playing out the rest of the aircheck mapblock log
14:40 IhrFussel     (there are 0 entries)...
14:43 IhrFussel     If it was a corrupted DB it would say so in the log correct?
14:54 rubenwardy    try starting with gdb to see if there's a segfault
14:54 rubenwardy    gdb --args path/to/mt --any --args
14:54 rubenwardy    eg
14:54 rubenwardy    gdb --args path/to/mt --config-file=~/.minetest-ctf.conf
14:58 IhrFussel     It's solved... it was a corrupted areas.dat !
14:58 IhrFussel     And I added a .log call to log that but for some reason it didn't appear
15:09 rubenwardy    !mod [sareas]
15:09 MinetestBot   rubenwardy: Could not find anything.
15:09 rubenwardy    :(
15:16 IhrFussel     rubenwardy, you know what's even worse when the areas.dat is corrupted? the mod by default just starts a NEW file
15:16 IhrFussel     The server would start without protections
15:17 IhrFussel     I had to manually add the shutdown call to save my map
15:17 IhrFussel     from being griefed
15:23 IhrFussel     How do I use safe_file_write()? Just local success = minetest.safe_file_write(path,content) if success then -- YAY end ?
15:31 IhrFussel     Well luckily I do a backup of the areas.dat file on each server restart so I got plenty of working backups
18:41 tumeninodes   not good... it links people to a hostile site MT .org (perhaps this should be addressed quickly?)
18:43 tumeninodes   woops, I was referring to this, which was posted on #minetest http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Learn_to_program_with_Minetest_on_Debian.html
19:06 IcyDiamond    i still dont know the story of .org
19:11 IcyDiamond    it was fixed it seems
19:47 rubenwardy    https://i.redd.it/xch7r9l89b421.jpg
19:59 tumeninodes   thanks for that... I will not sleep for weeks now
20:01 shivajiva     sleep is overrated
20:01 * tumeninodes sleeps in 30 min intervals to avg approx 2 hrs of sleep per night
20:03 shivajiva     heh in that case you only lose about a 28 hours sleep, ruben just gave you an extra day :)
20:04 tumeninodes   ugh, so much work still left to be done, before I start working at either transitioning the entire crafting system over to steam or a complete rework
20:05 tumeninodes   hoping to get a couple animations done over the weekend (or what's left of it) and still deciding which way to go with my walls extension PR, hmmmmm
20:06 * tumeninodes wonders if ever time someone typs 'hmmm', if hmmm gets pinged xD
20:06 * shivajiva   passes over all the buckets of steam he has around
20:21 tumeninodes   what are the chances of adding subs to the texture pack section in the forums? 'wip' 'release' 'old' there are so many with dead links.
20:38 rubenwardy    +1
20:38 rubenwardy    Currently cdb ignores that section
20:38 rubenwardy    Because there's some much crap
20:41 tumeninodes   well, if time is a problem, I'm more than happy to offer to help clean it up
20:42 tumeninodes   too bad, early on some were shared via mediafire etc... and are now gone. there are a couple which had screenshots that looked kinda nice, ah well
21:16 Fixer         XFCE STRONK
22:12 tumeninodes   https://github.com/fltk/fltk
22:12 tumeninodes   !title
22:12 MinetestBot   tumeninodes: GitHub - fltk/fltk: FLTK - Fast Light Tool Kit - https://github.com/fltk/fltk - cross platform GUI development
22:18 tumeninodes   https://github.com/siffiejoe/lua-fltk4lua
22:18 tumeninodes   !title
22:18 MinetestBot   tumeninodes: GitHub - siffiejoe/lua-fltk4lua: Lua binding to the Fast Light Tool Kit (FLTK)
22:19 Fixer         fltk is that thing used in flightgear?
22:20 tumeninodes   not sure, never looked at flightgear
22:20 tumeninodes   can't be hard to find out
22:21 bobr          is there a new hacked client out there
22:24 tumeninodes   I think they use canvas
22:25 tumeninodes   ^ for imaging
22:26 tumeninodes   from one of flightgears pages "Note  FlightGear's existing GUI system is based on PLIB/PUI. The GUI system is currently in the process of being updated via Canvas, see Canvas GUI for details."
22:28 tumeninodes   need a way to integrate .SVG for the UI
22:32 bobr          new hacked client out there 100%
22:36 Fixer         that is okay for OSS, minecraft has tons of those due to java reasons as well, how to fight is another reason
22:36 Fixer         server side movement PR anyone?
22:36 Fixer         tl;dr it is dead again damned it
22:38 IhrFussel     Don't pretty much all "hacked clients" do the same? There is only so much cheats you can enable client side
22:38 IhrFussel     At least some stuff has been moved to server side in the recent years
22:39 IhrFussel     Like node damage and breathe I think
22:42 bobr          50 hackers in one hour on skywars all screenshotted for fly
22:47 nerzhul       IhrFussel yes, 5.0.0 has nice things
22:48 IhrFussel     nerzhul, 0.4.17.1 also has some things related to cheating 0.4.16 didn't have AFAIK
22:49 IhrFussel     No wait
22:49 IhrFussel     Rather 0.4.16 has stuff against cheating 0.4.15 didn't have
22:52 Peppy         isn't there something wrong with bobr asking "is there a new hacked client out there" ?
22:56 tumeninodes   Peppy, they are asking to see if anyone knows of any recent, due to seeing some hacked activity... they are not asking as in looking for one to use
22:57 Fixer         bobr: anticheat enabled?
22:57 Peppy         tumeninodes: this players was banned for using hacked clients....
22:57 bobr          firstly i have never hacked in my life
22:58 bobr          seconadly ikari made that up to have a reason to ban me anyways im not having any beef so let me put this straight im just warning the devs and server owners that there is more hackers out there than usual to make sure they have the right anti cheats enabled
22:59 bobr          lmao well it wont be my ip lmao
23:00 bobr          and u think its me?
23:02 bobr          lmao well i dont hack and im pretty sure everyone knows that soo end off
23:05 bobr          k
23:07 bobr          anyways i gtg for tonite so try to prove it but u wont because i dont hack soo come back to me tommorow XD
23:22 Unarelith     is there any way to protect player from fall damage?
23:22 Unarelith     or to enable fly mode for him via a mod? (not privs, making player actually fly)
23:41 BillyS        Can I override the default block-damaging-player method?
23:47 BillyS        OH OF COURSE
23:47 BillyS        What I'm trying to do is a new shiny feature in 5.0.0