Time Nick Message 02:24 paramat !tell IhrFussel, 5.0.0 will have a good official MT app, better than any forked app, good chance to move players onto it. "the 3rd-party apps don't intend to upgrade at release" they probably will. also, many servers are desperate for CSM restrictions 02:24 MinetestBot paramat: yeah, sure, whatever 07:23 nerzhul not sure about all arguments but we should release it to ensure it's real 08:58 Peppy hi 09:04 shivajiva Hello Peppy 09:04 Peppy hi shivajiva 14:13 longerstaff13 https://i.imgur.com/3prFYdG.png <- caught the bastard in the act 14:14 longerstaff13 I went undercover to check something on Ls-Wonderland 14:14 longerstaff13 LS* 14:15 longerstaff13 14:14:58 Players for IP address 92.217.18.121: pleasedonotreportme 16:09 DI3HARD139 To click download or to not click download........ https://prnt.sc/lfityj 19:03 GreenDimond Cleanup on aisle forum, someone opened a few cans of Spam. 19:05 * GreenDimond pokes VanessaE or Shara 19:18 Shara Ewwww 19:20 * Shara pulls out the mop and a few other things as well 20:49 tumeninodes !tell Krock , I love the new glass... but you should have fixed obsidian glass door at the same time ;) giddyup :D 20:49 MinetestBot tumeninodes: yeah, sure, whatever 20:50 tumeninodes Don't be like that MinetestBot, I meant to call you but it just got too late 21:41 tumeninodes rubenwardy, I seem to be having trouble adding texture packs to contentdb 21:41 rubenwardy What specifically? 21:42 tumeninodes everytime I go to add new content, the page goes right to VCS Repository URL page and keeps stating it is unable to detect what sort of pckg 21:43 rubenwardy Is it on git? 21:43 rubenwardy If not, leave that blank 21:43 tumeninodes yes, 21:43 rubenwardy What URL are you giving? 21:43 tumeninodes https://github.com/TumeniNodes/16px-ambiguity 21:43 rubenwardy Ah, it may be because of the - 21:44 tumeninodes well I just literally added that 21:44 tumeninodes after trying a couple times 21:44 tumeninodes because it mentions doing so in the guidelines in the help section 21:45 rubenwardy What is the error exactly? 21:46 tumeninodes 'unable to detect package type 21:47 rubenwardy Ah, I know why 21:47 rubenwardy Leave the repo field blank for now and click next 21:47 rubenwardy You'll then see a full form where you can fill it in manually 21:47 tumeninodes yep, that's what I'm doing right now 21:47 rubenwardy And add the repo field again 21:47 rubenwardy Cool 21:48 tumeninodes just thought I'd mention it as the program seems unable to read TPs from a repo 21:48 tumeninodes or decipher what they are 21:49 rubenwardy Yeah, it's because TPs don't have an equivalent to init.lua or modpack.txt 21:52 tumeninodes hmmm, 21:53 tumeninodes might be nice to also add an option for "mixed free" to the media license drop down choices 21:54 tumeninodes I know there is "other free" but, mixed would be nice too 21:55 rubenwardy It's best to just choose the most restrictive license 21:55 tumeninodes ? 21:56 tumeninodes did you drop this 'un' ? 21:58 T4im he probably means taking the most restrictive one among the mixed ones and categorize it under that 21:59 tumeninodes ahhh, possibly 21:59 T4im the "MIT licensed, except that one file,.. not even the author is allowed to edit that one" would then be proprietary 22:06 ChimneySwift LOL not even the author can edit XDD 22:45 tumeninodes heh, I should probably finish my other TPs so I can add them as well :P 23:13 rubenwardy What T4im said 23:13 rubenwardy Another example: if there's lgpl things and MIT things, put lgpl 23:13 rubenwardy So it's in either direction 23:14 rubenwardy I'm not sure how legally ok this is 23:14 Jordach cross that bridge when you get there 23:15 tumeninodes yeh, I'm not sure either. Since the default textures for MTG all fall under various licenses... I feel stating a 'mix of free licenses' is the proper channel but that's just me 23:18 tumeninodes not sure about the situation used as an example either... Parts of MIT can be floated into LGPL, but not the other way around... so if the 2 are mixed, makes me think MIT is supposed to take precedence, at least from a legal standpoint, regardless of any individual's feelings that lgpl is a better license 23:19 T4im lgpl restricts your right more than MIT, which is very permissive 23:21 tumeninodes what I meant is, regardless of any personal feelings on the matter... from a legal standpoint, MIT should probably be the one listed, if both are used. (if only one option is avail) 23:23 T4im from a legal standpoint, mit is restricting you less than lgpl 23:23 * T4im just keeps saying the same thing, too 23:23 T4im :p 23:24 paramat MTG textures are mostly CC BY-SA and we try to keep as many as possible as that licence 23:24 T4im look at it this way.. we put you in prison and you are allowed to vote.. would you categorize yourself as free or not-free? 23:24 tumeninodes wait... did I say that wardsback??? "Parts of MIT can be floated into LGPL, but not the other way around..." :P I can't remember now 23:25 tumeninodes right but, just because they are 'mostly', does not mean that it should just be considered that they 'all' are 23:27 tumeninodes so, if I take all the default textures, and make some technical tweaks, as in setting them all to greyscale, this is not something I consider my own, as no actual talent is required (just time) it is still the same textures. 23:28 tumeninodes so, if I then release said TP and just place it all under CC BY-SA, I am in fact violating the terms of the other licenses in use throughout the TP 23:28 T4im well if you combined gpl+mit you are even required to consider the whole thing gpl due to the additional restriction 23:29 T4im you sort by restriction, because you are assuming that the restrictive part is the more relevant one.. the bottleneck 23:30 T4im when you are in prison it doesn't matter if you are allowed to fly free on any airline you choose, because you simply can't use all those additional options 23:30 * T4im will only get sillier in examples 23:30 tumeninodes and that may work fine related to those two, but the fact is, media licenses are completely different. 23:31 tumeninodes T4im seems to be missing or curious about prison :D 23:31 T4im :D well, add a NC and you make it more restrictive, now you can't distribute the whole commerically anymore 23:31 T4im without stepping on the more restrictive license-toes 23:32 tumeninodes tomatoes? 23:32 T4im tomatoes* 23:33 tumeninodes I'm going to draw up a license which does not even allow someone to look at art they bought... it has to be hung by others... facing the wall... backside/out ;) 23:34 tumeninodes maybe they should not even be allowed to have the artwork in their possession... just to be ultra restrictive... kinda like Ferrari does to it's high end customers :D 23:34 tumeninodes I will call it the "UltraNO' license 23:34 T4im hehe 23:35 tumeninodes rubenwardy, also spotted as typo on contentdb 23:37 tumeninodes "Don't put promotions are advertisements in package listings, except for donation and personal website links which are permitted in the long description." Should be "Don't put promotions OR advertisements..." 23:37 tumeninodes it;s ok... I guts ur Inglish right heah