Time  Nick           Message
10:28 BuckarooBanzai o/ T4im
10:28 T4im           hey o/
10:30 BuckarooBanzai i added some sounds to the scifi-nodes mod, it sounds really "spacey" now :) https://github.com/pandorabox-io/scifi_nodes
10:37 T4im           :D
14:46 tenplus1       hi folks
14:47 tenplus1       Ambience Lite updated (better sound set detection), Wine mod updated (agave needs like to grow), Mobs Animals updated (replaced demonic chicken sound)
14:51 twoelk         o/
14:51 tenplus1       hi twoelk
14:52 twoelk         hm, I have to like agave to make it grow?   cool
14:52 tenplus1       blue agave is used to make tequila in wine mod :D
14:53 twoelk         just refering to your announcement text
14:53 tenplus1       ohh *light  ahahahaha
14:53 tenplus1       typo
14:54 * twoelk       remembers the astonishing taste of grapes grown in his area this year
14:55 tenplus1       ooh, I like grapes :)
14:56 twoelk         normally they don't get past barelly edible up here, that is if you like sour fruits
14:57 twoelk         this year there was even a hint of sweetness in some types
14:57 tenplus1       nice :)
14:57 tenplus1       wish I had the space to grow my own fruits :D
15:02 twoelk         for me it's more a time related problem - I'm often away, sometimes for weeks
15:03 tenplus1       ahh, so you would need something you could just leave to grow on it's own :D
15:03 twoelk         yep, was difficult with this dry summer
15:04 * tenplus1     plants donut seeds
15:07 twoelk         still waiting for a small chocolate bush that would grow on my desk
15:08 tenplus1       ooh, that'd be awesome... kinda like the mini orange or lemon bushels you can get
15:10 twoelk         I usually don't get much more than the random watercress or chives, which I love though
15:10 tenplus1       egg mayonnaise and watercress is really nice :D
15:10 twoelk         Tropaeolum are also pretty tasty and nice looking
15:11 tenplus1       never tried that (or yheard of it :)
15:12 twoelk         Kapuzinerkresse in german, the common name in english might be something else
15:13 tenplus1       mustard ?
15:14 twoelk         I don't like mayonnaise much but a bread with watercress spread thickly on it  can be wonderfull
15:14 tenplus1       now I'm hungry... ehe :P
15:14 twoelk         hmm, these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropaeolum
15:15 tenplus1       o/ benrob
15:16 benrob0329     hello tenplus1
15:21 tenplus1       :P
15:22 tenplus1       hi fixer
15:23 Fixer          hello
15:27 tenplus1       hi Jordach, new phone ?
15:27 JordachNote8   Same old note8
15:27 tenplus1       heh
15:28 JordachNote8   I'm almost at the cottage now
15:28 tenplus1       weekend away ?
15:28 JordachNote8   Freenode Live ;)
15:28 tenplus1       oh yeah... duh... forgot :P
15:32 benrob0329     JordachNote8, you'll have to let me know how it goes :P
15:32 tenplus1       hope it goes well :P
15:32 JordachNote8   Updates will be periodic
15:32 JordachNote8   And perhaps a shitpost tomorrow for giggles
15:32 tenplus1       mwhehehe
15:37 rubenwardy     Lol
15:37 tenplus1       hi ruben
15:37 rubenwardy     I'll be tweeting from there on here: https://twitter.com/MinetestProject
15:38 * tenplus1     logs into twitter
16:18 * twoelk       decides even minetest may not lure him to sign up at twitter
16:20 tenplus1       lol... I never actually use it
16:31 rubenwardy     Twitter is my second favourite social thingy
16:31 rubenwardy     First is Reddit
16:31 Calinou        reddit is the anti-imperialist resistance to Facebook :P
16:32 tenplus1       lol, just joined reddit the other day... hah, for the memes
16:32 rubenwardy     I'm subscribed to way too many cat subs
16:35 tenplus1       the only site I actually post on is minetest forum
16:37 Calinou        I mostly visit and participate to /r/godot these days
16:37 Calinou        and not really anything else
16:37 tenplus1       nice, what do you use godot for ?
16:37 Calinou        working in the GitHub Game Off jam right now :)
16:37 Calinou        it started yesterday
16:38 Calinou        https://itch.io/jam/game-off-2018
16:38 tenplus1       ooh, interesting
16:45 twoelk         argh, timed out on xanadu, luckily in a safe place
16:45 tenplus1       hah...  the bamboo blocks were added last night :) and new mob api
16:45 twoelk         are those white spiders supposed to jump through dirt walls?
16:45 tenplus1       that's the mt engine in effect
16:45 tenplus1       the entity glitch
16:46 tenplus1       they really need to fix that
16:46 twoelk         had to fight a dozen monsters to travel through my tunnels from one base to another
16:46 tenplus1       even dropped items glitch into walls
16:47 twoelk         mese-monsters seem easier to block shooting
16:48 tenplus1       maybe I should increase arrow speed
16:48 twoelk         nooo
16:49 twoelk         I barely made it
16:49 tenplus1       eheh
16:49 twoelk         mesemonsters from the front while white spiders kreep up from behind
16:49 tenplus1       yay, sounds perfect
16:50 twoelk         glad I had some baked potatos
16:51 tenplus1       I still want to add an obsidian beast that fires shards at you at high speed and can break through blocoks
16:51 twoelk         guess I'll have to protect more of my tunnels and caverns so that I might invest more in lighting
16:52 twoelk         don't like the idea :-O
16:52 twoelk         I have to run and fight more than I spend time to build :-P
16:53 tenplus1       it's a survival world, so long as you have good armor :P
16:53 twoelk         but in ernest, I'd rather have monsters do different things than just one being stronger than the other
16:54 tenplus1       ideas are more than welcome :D
16:55 * twoelk       looks into his attic and notices that it's the end of the week and most ideas have been spend for surviving work
16:55 tenplus1       ehehe
16:56 tenplus1       thinking of living flames that follow you around and are hard to hit
16:57 twoelk         did have something interesting to calculate the other day though - as someone posed the problem of getting rid of accumilating hydrogen without using fans or turbines
17:02 tenplus1       use it to burn and create high temp alloys like titanium
17:03 twoelk         hmm,  ignite it and watch the roof melt to unknown alloys?
17:04 tenplus1       from what I read titanium doesnt like an oxygen rich atmos when burning, so pumping in hydrogen will increase temps and make it alloy better :D
17:06 twoelk         actually something the technic mod could address
17:06 tenplus1       yeah :P
17:07 twoelk         do we have lithium yet to manufacture lithiom-oin accumulators?
17:07 twoelk         er *ion
17:08 twoelk         although onion accumulaters might be a thing
17:09 tenplus1       sounds like things are getting techincal :D
17:11 tenplus1       hi andrey
17:11 Andrey01       hi
17:12 Andrey01       is there planned date of 5.0.0 coming? or no yet?
17:12 twoelk         maybe before xmas maybe not
17:13 tenplus1       can only wait and see,is 5.0 even stable yet ?
17:14 Andrey01       and how many features and changes are remained to release for this?
17:15 twoelk         compared to what?
17:16 Andrey01       i say how many still changes they will release in future before coming, e.g. all what they have not made yet for that now
17:17 tenplus1       I suppose 5.0 will be released when it's ready and stable
17:17 twoelk         oh, z-fighting in glaslike has been fixed?
17:18 Andrey01       i hope over half of a work they have already made?
17:18 tenplus1       5.0 already has many new additions and features and bug fixes
17:18 twoelk         yep, only the hard stuff left :-P
17:23 twoelk         you could study https://dev.minetest.net/Changelog for some not quite uptodate info
17:26 Andrey01       i`ve already read the changelog
17:26 Andrey01       before
17:30 twoelk         well, then you know more than most :-D
17:35 Andrey01       i can not know all changes because there are a lot of them and i asked how many stuff is missed for 5.0.0?
17:38 tenplus1       hi gary
17:38 garywhite      hi
17:41 Andrey01       still time a question: how many changes/features is missed for 5.0.0? will devs add still blocks, items or anything else?
17:41 tenplus1       check the github page and see what issues remain for minetest and minetest-game
17:43 Andrey01       i don`t know what github page is
17:43 tenplus1       https://github.com/minetest/
17:43 tenplus1       go there, you have 2 sections, minetest is the engine, minetest_game is what you play when you make a new world
17:44 tenplus1       issues are bugs and problems/ideas, pull requests are additions... check them out and that's what is still to be done
17:44 Andrey01       ok
17:53 tenplus1       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7833
17:53 tenplus1       !title
17:53 MinetestBot    tenplus1: falling entity rewrite by tenplus1 · Pull Request #7833 · minetest/minetest · GitHub
18:05 twoelk         @Andrey01 look for things labelled or taged as <blocker>, those need to be fixed before a release is possible
18:07 tenplus1       o//
18:07 twoelk         both arms to one side? - don't fall over
18:08 tenplus1       *flop*
18:09 tenplus1       finally added the falling entity fix, it can sometimes replace smaller nodes it shouldnt.. have been running it on xanadu for 2 months now so it works :D
18:10 twoelk         oh? you tested it with your arms?
18:10 tenplus1       yep, fell no problem :D
18:11 twoelk         wish these could be fixed with arm waving https://github.com/minetest/minetest/labels/Blocker
18:11 tenplus1       so many fireworks already
18:12 * twoelk       frantickiliousously waves his arms
18:12 twoelk         o/
18:12 twoelk         \o
18:12 twoelk         o//
18:12 twoelk         \\o
18:13 * twoelk       heads over to list
18:13 tenplus1       checking out what's there :P
18:13 twoelk         oh, a rubenwardy icon plopped up
18:14 twoelk         :D
18:19 tenplus1       hi Xenon
18:19 _Xenon         Hello
18:19 * tenplus1     remembers Xenon and Xenon II on the Amiga, best games :)
18:56 * twoelk       looks at some Bristol stuff and suddenly realizes he's been there before and had totally forgotten
18:57 tenplus1       the tourism division blanked your memory for a return visit
19:00 twoelk         I think I attended some scooter event with my then scooter-modding sister
19:02 twoelk         oh dear, must have been the late nineties
19:03 tenplus1       now scooters are back and electric :D
19:04 twoelk         my brother still has an old vespa stored at our mothers place
19:05 tenplus1       never had a scooter but had a bmx :D
19:05 twoelk         the beautifull Lambretta my sister had ... uhm, got destroyed
19:06 tenplus1       aww, how'd that happen
19:06 twoelk         some wierd accident
19:06 twoelk         she can't remember much
19:07 tenplus1       too long ago :D
19:07 twoelk         else managed to not get hurt much
19:08 twoelk         oh, she had lots of accidents she can't remember how she managed to survive
19:08 tenplus1       lol, pure luck if you survive past childhood with all the crazy things we do :D
19:08 twoelk         definetly
19:08 twoelk         done some crazy shit
19:09 twoelk         and been to places I only learned later how dangerous they where
19:09 tenplus1       climbed many trees :) made bogeys, swings etc
19:10 Andrey01       why is a texture of mesh model black though i`ve actually laid on this needed texture?
19:10 twoelk         we where the at the time youngest kids to attempt to climb mt. Kinabalu on Borneo
19:10 Andrey01       and paramtype = "light" is available
19:11 twoelk         maybe warped?
19:12 * twoelk       doesn't know what he is talking about
19:12 tenplus1       spent most of my childhood wandering the local burn, never been up a mountain ytet :P
19:12 Andrey01       http://www.imageup.ru/img143/3204425/screenshot_20181102_221128.jpg
19:12 tenplus1       burn = forest with river
19:13 tenplus1       andrey: add paramtype = "light",   to the node
19:13 Andrey01       why is the model black at the screenshot above?
19:13 Andrey01       it`s available
19:13 tenplus1       show code
19:13 twoelk         nice modell
19:14 Andrey01       https://pastebin.com/HpEanDpu
19:15 Andrey01       twoelk:thx))
19:17 twoelk         maybe replace the texture with default:wood and see what happens
19:18 tenplus1       try   tiles = {"default_wood.png", "default_stone.png", "default_sand.png"},  and see what appears
19:19 Andrey01       here is what happens with default:wood texture: http://www.imageup.ru/img143/3204430/screenshot_20181102_221801.jpg
19:20 Andrey01       ok
19:20 twoelk         check spelling of your original code and file
19:22 twoelk         ooh, I want that mirror effect
19:22 Andrey01       twoelk: it can not lay more 1 texture when this is mesh drawtype
19:22 Andrey01       nothing is changed
19:23 tenplus1       remember to dig and replace chair to make sure
19:23 Andrey01       well it doesn`t work
19:25 Andrey01       interestingly and why does it lay strange texture of wood? it should not look like so
19:26 Andrey01       well how it is on the screenshot  above
19:26 tenplus1       if it works with wood texture then double check the texture file you are trying to wrap around it
19:26 twoelk         if another texture works (like default_wood does) you may be referencing wrong, such as a spelling mistake
19:27 twoelk         or maybe your png is saved wrong
19:28 twoelk         wasn't there some type of png minetest didn't like?
19:30 Andrey01       and also strangely when i am punching this node around breaking particles are emiting with MY texture
19:32 Andrey01       here see: http://www.imageup.ru/img143/3204441/screenshot_20181102_223112.jpg
19:33 Andrey01       the texture is black itself however it is emiting particles with needed texture
19:34 tenplus1       did you dig and replace the chair after changing textures ?
19:36 twoelk         I would even suggest to restart minetest everytime and maybe clear the cache between starts
19:36 Andrey01       tenplus1:yes
19:37 tenplus1       package upthe files as a .zip archive and let us see
19:37 Andrey01       now...
19:38 tenplus1       hi Krock
19:38 Krock          hi tenplus1
19:38 tenplus1       :P
19:38 Krock          what. my channel tree did not even finish displaying and you already greeted
19:38 tenplus1       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7833
19:38 Andrey01       https://ufile.io/z6uhy -- model
19:38 Krock          superfast dude
19:39 Andrey01       https://ufile.io/ag61p and texture
19:41 tenplus1       the model you attached is the .blend file, not the .obj
19:42 Andrey01       ok, now obj...
19:43 Andrey01       https://ufile.io/w9qz3
19:46 twoelk         maybe make an all brown texture and try it. you might have mapped it wrong
19:48 tenplus1       look carefully, the texture is being stretched/zoomed on top of the chair
19:48 tenplus1       your original texture is being stratchedso much that the black is the only part appearing
19:49 tenplus1       texture is being drawn using the right file, just not placing it 100% on the model
19:51 Andrey01       i think this happens of texture is 32x32 pixels
19:51 tenplus1       it shouldnt matter what size texture is, so long as you've told the model to wrap is properly it can be any size (same with mobs using hd textures)
19:54 Andrey01       and how to lay a texture in Blender to view how this looks like with a texture?
19:55 tenplus1       no clue, I never use blender
19:55 twoelk         hm, does it matter that the blender file refers to a file called luxury_chair_with_cushion.png? (note the missing word <wood>)
19:55 tenplus1       there's a way to create a pixmap so that any texture displays properly on your model when you save it
19:56 tenplus1       try watching this, it's the boat model being cleaned up so may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQit9BK_Dc0
20:05 tenplus1       wb Jordach
20:13 twoelk         Andrey01, you might need to edit your UV mapping as I can detect none
20:17 Andrey01       how to edit?
20:19 tenplus1       check the youtuibe link I posted, shows sofar editing the boat model and tedxures
20:21 tenplus1       nite all
20:21 tenplus1       o/
20:22 Fixer          \\o
20:32 paramat        hey big drum!
20:42 benrob0329     New cinematic: https://share.tube/videos/watch/8984391f-ca2c-416a-bd43-dba5f9fc8cac
20:51 luk3yx         Is there any way I can get a signlike object to rotate horizontally (on its side)?
20:52 Krock          screwdriver
20:52 luk3yx         No, it changes the node it is attached to.
20:52 luk3yx         I want to rotate it without changing the node it's attached to.
20:53 Krock          huh? the screwdriver rotates whatever you point at
20:53 luk3yx         Signlike objects are different.
20:53 luk3yx         The node they're attached to is different for every rotation.
20:53 Krock          please explain
20:54 benrob0329     luk3yx, you mean rotate around an axis in the middle of the sign?
20:54 Krock          signlike nodes are like nodebox-drawtype nodes. You can rotate them the same way
20:54 luk3yx         Yeah, horizontally.
20:54 benrob0329     use the other click
20:55 * luk3yx       screenshots
20:55 benrob0329     or shift-click even, if that does anything anymore
20:55 Krock          so, spin along the Y axis?
20:55 Krock          or what's horizontally
20:55 luk3yx         https://0x0.st/sIjr.png
20:55 luk3yx         Those are all the rotations I can find.
20:56 Krock          looks about right, yes
20:56 luk3yx         I want to put a signlike object on its side while still being attached to the same node.
20:56 benrob0329     right click I would think
20:56 benrob0329     but I could be very wrong
20:56 luk3yx         That does those ones down the bottom
20:56 benrob0329     shift?
20:57 luk3yx         Is there another drawtype I could use or should I just register 4 nodes?
20:57 luk3yx         Shift seems to do the same as left-clicks
20:57 Krock          uhm.. register a nodebox?
20:57 benrob0329     a normal nodebox probably, or override the param2 defaults
21:01 ircSparky      it is possible for a csm to run a dll?
21:01 ircSparky      is there any security.trusted_mods for csms?
21:03 Krock          https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/eef62c82a2e58700fc1216b0b8c03e421bc77995/src/script/cpp_api/s_security.cpp#L228
21:03 Krock          there's no switch to turn security off for CSMs
21:03 Krock          compile your own Minetest binary
21:03 paramat        i think signlike has 'wallmounted' rotations, so only 6 rotations
21:04 Krock          paramat: yes, but that should be changeable by paramtype2
21:04 paramat        so no signlike cannot be rotated in any other way
21:05 paramat        so yeah create a nodebox with paramtype2 = "facedir"
21:07 paramat        hm i'm not sure signlike drawtype supports facedir ..
21:07 Krock          there should be enough free bits to allow that, but I think the engine forces wallmounted on that drawtype
21:10 luk3yx         Is there any way to stop nodeboxes repeating textures if they are over 1 block wide/tall?
21:10 luk3yx         (I want the texture to be scaled up)
21:13 * luk3yx       gives up on that, 4 smaller nodes are easier
21:15 luk3yx         It worked, thanks.
21:16 paramat        there isn't currently
22:32 xerox123       freenode live is tomorrow, wow, a year has gone too quickly :P
22:32 xerox123       good luck to those exhibiting :D
22:32 Jordach        xerox123: i know right, :D
22:32 sofar          xerox123: you mean 93.132.0.0/15 ;)
22:33 xerox123       ah, that makes the 2 also be a 3?
22:33 Jordach        yes
22:33 sofar          one more bit, yes
22:48 * VanessaE     pokes sofar with a couple of pull requests
22:48 VanessaE       (actually 3)
22:55 sofar          I might have time later
22:56 sofar          shoot
22:59 VanessaE       bang?
23:01 sofar          ouch, direct hit