Time Nick Message 05:29 VanessaE rubenwardy: *poke* 05:29 VanessaE or anyone else: 05:30 VanessaE we had a minetest "mod store" at one point. not sure why it doesn't appear for me, but isn't the stuff in content.minetest.net supposed to appear there? 05:52 VanessaE meh, just left that bit out for now. 05:53 VanessaE https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12718342&cid=57441142 05:56 VanessaE Calinou: will you puh-leaze fix the wrong orientation on-place for wood (I think all default wood kinds), and bricks (and their cut shapes) 06:01 VanessaE I mean where placing bricks, wood, etc puts the sides of the block pointing vertically, and slabs/slopes/etc keep getting forced to flat-on-floor orientation, and always facing one particular way. 06:01 VanessaE it affects stone, and sandstone brick, too 06:02 VanessaE in fact, it seems to affect all mtg nodes that can be cut with the table saw, but things like streets asphalt, technic concrete slabs, etc work exactly like they should. 06:03 CWz Hello 06:04 VanessaE hi,. 06:45 rubenwardy VanessaE: yes, in latest Dev 06:46 VanessaE ok. 06:46 rubenwardy Also, it's games 06:46 rubenwardy Not subgamed 06:46 VanessaE see the above links for my general MT commentary 06:47 VanessaE games? when did we stop calling them subgames? 06:48 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19808 06:48 jas_ probably about a year ago by now. it's the important things, like calling it Minetest Game and not minetest_game lool 06:53 jas_ nice plug for minetest 06:53 jas_ tastes great, less filling 06:56 VanessaE heh 06:57 VanessaE just expanding on what the other two wrote before me. 07:01 VanessaE G*d I hate the fact that you can't edit a slashdot post. 07:06 jas_ i hadn't been there in a loooonngg time heh, bet its still a great place for people in that field but i just reddit now :'( 07:06 VanessaE not really. slashdot is trolls all the way down 07:06 VanessaE :P 07:07 jas_ too bad i heard about rob leaving and who bought it? was it sourceforge? 07:07 VanessaE Dice, who owns SF, but then someone else bought it later 07:07 jas_ weird 07:07 * jas_ checks his subscription to wired magazine 07:08 jas_ (the things i do for a child's fundraiser) 07:08 VanessaE heh 07:09 * rubenwardy thinks it should be dotslash 07:09 jas_ oh that reminds me of that fatboy slim song 07:09 VanessaE I think one of the offshoots from the "fuck beta" era is called dot-slash.. 07:10 VanessaE and there's a pipedot 07:10 VanessaE I frequent soylent news. 07:10 jas_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1SpFt7zJUM 07:11 jas_ heh cool thanks i'll check em out (it's made of peeeoooppplllleee!!!) 07:12 VanessaE heh 07:12 VanessaE rubenwardy: nu? gonna chime in on that thread? :) 07:13 rubenwardy What's the fuck beta era? 07:17 VanessaE some time after Dice bought slashdot they started making UI changes 07:17 VanessaE stuff that many geeks opposed 07:17 VanessaE in short, it made the site much less usable 07:18 VanessaE it just kept getting worse, until one day sine Dice corporate muckamuck referred to us all as the "audience" 07:19 VanessaE that was the last straw, and a number of prominent Slashdot users forked the old pre-UI-changes slash code, and soylent, pipedot, and others were born 07:20 VanessaE those UI changes were "beta", and were being forced on us even though the old UI was available, which prompted a lot of "fuck beta" posts (in so many words) on the site.. 07:21 VanessaE I'm sure that's all an oversimplification, but it's to the best of my recollection 07:22 VanessaE that was some 4 years ago, I think 07:25 VanessaE (the forking, I mean) 07:26 VanessaE pipedot, when I last looked at it, was about as close as one can get to the pre-fuck-beta era, color scheme aside. soylent is close, but they've evolved a bit since then 07:27 VanessaE hm, pipedot isn't so close anymore, seems they've evolved a bit too. 12:41 tenplus1 hi folks 12:41 tenplus1 Bees Mod has been updated (fixed global check, added 9x lucky blocks, smoker has 200 uses) 12:41 VanessaE hi 12:42 tenplus1 hi Vanessa 12:42 tenplus1 hey aerozoic 12:42 * tenplus1 added an oprah meme to the lucky blocks :DDD 12:42 aerozoic wazup tenplus1 ! 12:46 tenplus1 just updated bees mod aerozoic :P 12:47 aerozoic that reminds me, i still need to pull updates from all ur mods XD 12:51 tenplus1 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6743&p=332752#p332752 12:58 tenplus1 huh ? 12:59 tenplus1 o.O howwww ? dammit 13:00 tenplus1 I usually remove my addy when adding comment before git update... dammit 13:01 tenplus1 so much for anonimity 13:01 rubenwardy essentiall 13:03 tenplus1 thanks for letting me know 13:03 VanessaE meh, that's what spam filters are for :P 13:05 tenplus1 *shakes fist at git* 13:06 T4im hey everyone o/ 13:06 T4im :) 13:07 tenplus1 hi T4im 13:07 Megaf lol 13:07 Megaf thats why I have different email addresses for different stuff 13:07 Megaf (and different personas) 13:07 Megaf (not sure who I am anymore) 13:07 tenplus1 if I knew that git would broadcast it I would have made one specifically for it... 13:08 Megaf (last time I check I was a tiger) 13:08 tenplus1 was so sure it was anonymouis to all... also hi :P 13:08 Megaf hi :) 13:08 VanessaE "different personas"......... Megaf is OC? ;) 13:09 T4im well you can configure git to commit with @users.no-reply.github.com locally already; then it'd be anonymous more or less :) 13:09 Megaf VanessaE: there was no need to offend me... 13:09 Megaf :P 13:09 tenplus1 too late if all my previous commits already have email :P 13:09 VanessaE Megaf: just kidding :) 13:10 T4im always count on spambots being lazy; theres a chance that they just check your latest used email and try to spam that one 13:11 tenplus1 VanessaE: changed smokers to have 200 uses, they always felt quite cheaty being unlimited 13:11 VanessaE 200 seems about right 13:12 tenplus1 and added that Oprah meme about bees! bees for all!:P as a bad block... 13:12 VanessaE oh G*d 13:13 VanessaE that thing 13:13 tenplus1 every player within 15 block radius of the LB opening gets bees in the face :LD 13:14 VanessaE oh brother... 13:15 VanessaE I hope I can disable those :P 13:15 tenplus1 unless you can think of any other bad blocks I could add :D 13:15 Shara Ewww, do we really need such memes showing up in MT now? :P 13:16 tenplus1 was the perfect lucky block for that mod :D sorry... ehehe 13:16 * Shara sends all the bees back to 11 :P 13:16 tenplus1 hi shara :P 13:16 Shara Hi :P 13:16 VanessaE Shara: oh please, look up minetest troll pack I think it's called 13:17 Shara I'd rather not :P 13:17 VanessaE it's an ollllllllllllllllllllllld texture pack that turns many nodes into memes 13:17 VanessaE the "I can count to potato" girl comes to mind for some reason 13:17 Shara haha 13:18 tenplus1 there's so many old memes I could have added :P 13:21 tenplus1 should add the troll face to the halloween pack 13:21 VanessaE wow, old is right, looks like it dates back to 0.3.x but there's no download or screenshot anymore of it. 13:21 VanessaE found it on minetest.com (how is that site still in operation?) 13:22 tenplus1 still has some mese in it's furnace 13:33 tenplus1 added bees to contentdb 13:33 rubenwardy woo 13:34 VanessaE :+1: 13:34 tenplus1 bas80 made a good mod, has to be shared :D 13:34 VanessaE you made it better :) 13:34 tenplus1 I fixed some issues and added a few new features 13:35 * tenplus1 still thinks that moreores should be included in default 13:35 VanessaE it practically is. all that's missing is, what, silver and mithril? :) 13:36 tenplus1 yeah... would make the underground more interesting to explore in def. 13:37 tenplus1 I managed to speed up biome_lib as well Vanessa, is a wee bit hacky tho 13:37 VanessaE oh? 13:38 tenplus1 changed an IF priority and changed a few remove_node's to swap_node with 'air' 13:38 tenplus1 runs smoother on my old dual core 1.8 :P 13:40 VanessaE swap_node() is faster than set_node() ? 13:40 tenplus1 yup, much since it doesnt need to handle metadata 13:41 tenplus1 wherever you do a minetest.remove_node() you can change to minetest.swap_node(pos, {name = "air"}) and it's a lot quicker on map updates 13:41 T4im doesn't delete it either; so should probably not be used with things that have inventories or so :) 13:41 T4im but when appropriate it should indeed be faster yea :D 13:41 tenplus1 this is for biomes_lib mod though, so all it's basically removing is stone/dirt/grass on generation 13:41 T4im yea, seems good for that :D 13:41 tenplus1 and the init.lua line 243: and (not checkair or minetest.get_node(p_top).name == "air") 13:42 tenplus1 I moved it down the IF chain to allow for quicker checks to be done first and heavier near the end 13:42 T4im nice :D 13:42 tenplus1 those 2 changes alone really speed up mapgen 13:43 T4im that reminds me, that we never really profiled mapgen code properly, huh? 13:48 T4im i mean added to the mod profiler* 14:01 tenplus1 am sure their would be a way to improve mapgen performance also 14:01 tenplus1 hi chimney 14:03 ChimneySwift hi tenplus1 14:11 rubenwardy tenplus1: please may you make you own mod topics rather than doing this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=332752#p332752 14:11 tenplus1 it's not my mod though, all I did was update it so it's still Bas80's mod 14:11 rubenwardy it's technically a fork 14:12 VanessaE rubenwardy: also, bees is abandoned. 14:12 tenplus1 I feel bad doing so 14:12 VanessaE so it's not really a fork as much as picking up the mantle. 14:12 rubenwardy it's still technically a fork as you 14:12 rubenwardy you're not bas080 14:12 VanessaE fair enough.. 14:13 rubenwardy it's just a bit weird to have those announcements but the OP being the same 14:13 rubenwardy I don't care too much 14:18 Shara tenplus1: it's made it difficult for me to find YOUR fork in tyhe past though, when I have specifically wanted yours, not the original 14:18 Shara the* 14:19 tenplus1 k, will add new forum page 14:19 Shara There is nothing bad about posting your own topic, especially if the original is unmaintained 14:19 tenplus1 yeah cause it bnrings up 2 diff mods that are essentially the same 14:19 Shara You can always credit the original in the first post and link back to it 14:20 Shara that removes any confusion 14:20 VanessaE what I usually did in the past, when I took over maintenance of a mod, is post a mention in the original topic that I maintain it, with a link directing visitors to my topic. 14:20 tenplus1 will change the last post I added to point to the new page then 14:21 VanessaE at least I think that's what I did :P 14:22 VanessaE the problem is, the original topic never fades from view, even if the original copy of the mod and its images are no longer obtainable (dead repo/site, like when omploader died) 14:22 VanessaE google will keep showing the old topic in search results. 14:22 tenplus1 yup,and that further confuses users since they dont automatically go to last entry 14:23 rubenwardy contentdb 14:23 rubenwardy also, the original OP can be edited 14:23 tenplus1 unless it werepossible to transfer ownership of thread or add link to newer download 14:58 tenplus1 o/ tumeninodes 14:59 tumeninodes tenplus1 /o 14:59 tenplus1 :P 14:59 tumeninodes that's on-a them there saluty things 14:59 tenplus1 heh 15:00 tumeninodes I sure wish you Brits would come get your grey/drizzly weather and take it back with you 15:00 tenplus1 already have some here thx :P 15:01 tumeninodes well just so you know... it's 'ok' to not share 15:01 tenplus1 eheheheh 16:08 tenplus1 wb 16:19 tenplus1 hi gary 16:23 twoelk o/ to all 16:23 tenplus1 hi twoelk 16:25 twoelk what is it with your country? first a friend from work and now my brother and family roam scotland and the borderlands 16:26 * twoelk should have never taken this fulltime job - it's so fulltime 16:26 garywhite hi 16:26 tenplus1 it's a nice place to roam :D 16:26 twoelk o/ 16:26 twoelk from what I remember it indeed is :-D 16:34 twoelk hmm, actually the only 'scottish band' I somewhat activily follow in the recent years is Saor Patrol - just love them drums - they do sound life a lot better than on media though, a lot better 16:35 tenplus1 heh 16:49 tenplus1 hi bwarden 16:49 tumeninodes ... Slade 16:49 tumeninodes :P 16:56 Krock hi tenplus1 16:56 tenplus1 hi Krock :) 17:07 longerstaff13 it's a Krock odile! 17:07 longerstaff13 :P 17:08 Krock it's a long staff 17:08 tenplus1 lol, hi longer 17:10 longerstaff13 o/ 17:10 longerstaff13 Krock: lol 17:11 longerstaff13 oh, a player on my server has noticed that the travelnet boxes can't be removed so easily anymore, and I have noticed it too (plus they won't stop bugging me about it :P) 17:11 Krock since when were they easy to remove? 17:12 tenplus1 hah 17:12 longerstaff13 used to be able to remove them easily, but now they come up with a new box that says you need to create a new Tnet station or some shit like that 17:12 longerstaff13 lemme try wth an admin pick (gimmea few minutes) 17:13 tumeninodes meseomite would do the trick 17:15 longerstaff13 doesn't work with admin pick either, used to though 17:15 longerstaff13 (unless my internet's lagging) 17:15 longerstaff13 nope, didn't work 17:16 tenplus1 that's no good, gotta be an easy way to disable/remove travelnets 17:16 longerstaff13 a normal player has to ask me or an admin to worldedit it away 17:16 longerstaff13 another admin* 17:17 longerstaff13 but even then the listing on the other Tnet doesn't go away 17:18 xerox123 use a diamond pick 17:18 xerox123 it's some stupid new thing 17:18 xerox123 longerstaff13: ^ 17:18 longerstaff13 alright 17:19 Shara That sounds annoying 17:19 Shara But never really liked travelnets much anyway 17:19 xerox123 mhm, needing a tool to destroy them, even in creative 17:19 longerstaff13 lol 17:19 tenplus1 that sucks 17:20 longerstaff13 yeah that is pretty bad, I agree 17:20 xerox123 it worked? 17:20 longerstaff13 yeah 17:20 Shara Yea.. player puts it in the wrong place, and they are stuck 17:20 longerstaff13 who made the mod anyway? 17:20 xerox123 you could put it in the random_messages cycle 17:20 Shara Sokomine I think 17:20 tenplus1 sokomine made travelnet 17:20 longerstaff13 xerox123: if I knew how, I would :P 17:20 xerox123 "USE A DIAMOND PICK TO BREAK TRAVELNETS!" 17:20 longerstaff13 XD 17:21 xerox123 random_message/init.lua 17:21 longerstaff13 ah 17:22 tumeninodes again... mese-a-mite 17:23 longerstaff13 Shara, tenplus1: ah 17:23 tenplus1 ? 17:25 longerstaff13 [18:20:45] <tenplus1> sokomine made travelnet 17:25 tenplus1 oh :P 17:25 longerstaff13 lol 17:37 garywhite It's true, travelnets don't seem to want to be removed anymore 17:37 tenplus1 that needs to befixed 17:39 tenplus1 even adding a REMOVE button for the owner in the formspec would be handy 18:10 tumeninodes just make them breakable by hand in creative 18:11 tenplus1 https://github.com/Sokomine/travelnet/blob/master/init.lua#L139 18:12 tenplus1 that whole function could be whittled down to - can it dig cracky ? yup ? then dig it up 18:13 tenplus1 that way you need pick or creative hand to dig 18:13 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/BURcc.png 18:13 tenplus1 you making badges ruben ? 18:14 tumeninodes found the culprit... let's gitem! (wasn't merges but still.. this dude's nuts) :D https://github.com/Sokomine/travelnet/pull/30 18:14 rubenwardy stickers! 18:14 tumeninodes hmm, that's an interesting perspective going on there 18:15 tenplus1 the can_ya_dig function is overcomplicated 18:15 tumeninodes ya it is.. 18:21 tenplus1 replace that function with this: https://pastebin.com/w3QQ3EwT 18:21 tenplus1 then all you need is a pick or the creative hand to dig up a travelnet 18:22 rubenwardy it's £3.50 for the square version (above) and £8.50 for the rectangle version ( https://i.rubenwardy.com/1LEsD.png ) 18:22 tenplus1 nice :P 18:22 rubenwardy for 25 18:22 rubenwardy the image is a square 18:24 tenplus1 it's like the creeper face for mc, a known item that signifies mt :D 18:26 Krock tenplus1: maybe try to replace that with "puncher and return". Maybe Lua will deal with it 18:26 tenplus1 wut ? 18:27 Krock hmm this mindblow actually doesn't work out as expected 18:27 tenplus1 you mean the local toolcaps 18:27 tenplus1 local tool_caps = puncher and puncher:get_wielded blahg b;lah 18:27 Krock I meant to abuse the "ternary" Lua operator with return 18:27 tenplus1 oh, heh... 18:28 rubenwardy i'll get the rect one, it's much nicer 18:28 tenplus1 this was just a quick draft to replace it and get it working 18:33 tenplus1 hi Jordach 18:34 Jordach meow 18:43 rubenwardy 42p per sticker 18:43 rubenwardy bluddy 'ell 18:43 tenplus1 for how many ? 18:43 tumeninodes funny how it costs $ to give stuff away 18:44 rubenwardy 75 18:44 rubenwardy the leaflets were about £20 for 100 - so 20p each 18:44 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/fn3bd.png 18:44 tumeninodes make anyone who takes a sticker sign a contract of loyalty 18:44 Jordach rubenwardy: i legit have like several ink carts for my inkjet 18:44 tenplus1 lololk 19:22 tenplus1 o/ paramat 19:32 rubenwardy "Ohk. Just wanted to say though, it looks out of place. IMO the icon is unique enough and looks good enough that you'd probably be safe to rely on interested people asking about the icon, rather than trying to integrate the name into the icon" 19:32 rubenwardy Regarding the text on the minetest logo sticker 19:32 rubenwardy Shara 19:33 tenplus1 no text, logo only would suffice 19:33 Shara I think text is needed 19:34 tenplus1 nuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 19:34 Shara people can ask about the logo only when there's somewhere around who will know 19:34 rubenwardy "I'd be a lot more happy putting just the plain logo on the back of a laptop. With the link in there it just seems a little too complex, it just feels like it's trying too hard to me..." 19:34 Shara during the event they won't need to ask, since leaflets and so on will be there... but if they stick it somewhere and forget about it, then see it later... there is no one to ask 19:35 Shara and small unobtrusive link is trying too hard? 19:35 tenplus1 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Minetest-logo.svg/2000px-Minetest-logo.svg.png looks better and will go with more items without teext 19:35 Shara go with more items? What does that mean? 19:36 Shara (I still don't really like the mese ones either) 19:36 tenplus1 pins, stickers etc. a simple logo looks better, kinda like the lootbox pins, so many ppl complained about the text on them they finally caved in 19:37 Shara I'm not in favour of huge eyecatching text, but small and unobtrusive 19:38 tenplus1 0.005pt at the bottom :D 19:40 tenplus1 hi benrob 19:40 rubenwardy "Hmm. OTOH if someone puts it somewhere and forgets about it, another who came across it might have their curiosity sparked such as to take the time to search more diligently to find what the logo related to. And when they did discover it, they might be more inclined to spend more time with it." 19:40 rubenwardy Oh, before that 19:40 Shara People are lazy 19:41 rubenwardy "Maybe have some of both. But more without :P. 19:41 rubenwardy One could also argue that something that is more mysterious, more unknown, might draw the increased attention of more." 19:41 rubenwardy Minetest could be written on the back of the sticker 19:41 Shara Which is not helpful when it is stuck somewhere 19:41 paramat lol 19:42 rubenwardy If you stick it somewhere, usually you know what it is 19:42 rubenwardy Like: if it's on a laptop 19:42 rubenwardy Less so if it's a public place 19:42 Shara I'm not going to comment about the experience of my niece and her sticker collection, really. :D 19:42 benrob0329 I'm not one to sticker a laptop, but I'd probably put a Minetest sticker on mine 19:43 benrob0329 hello tenplus1 19:45 tenplus1 handy :P 19:47 benrob0329 Game Idea: A Tech-Tree based game that uses rails and minecarts for everything 19:48 tenplus1 :P 19:49 tenplus1 thatis handy 19:53 rubenwardy Looool 19:53 rubenwardy Google+ is being shut down 19:53 tenplus1 was a simple desktop 19:53 tenplus1 wiat wut ? really ruben ? 19:53 sofar yep 19:54 tenplus1 you got a link saying why ? 19:54 sofar they were entirely vulnerable to leaking private customer data for years 19:55 sofar decided that user base does not warrant fixing and keeping it fixed 19:55 tenplus1 google at it's best... it doesnt make them cash so lets ditch it mentality 19:55 tenplus1 let it go, am on minds.com anyway 20:01 benrob0329 nooo, mastodon :P 20:01 benrob0329 its actually self hostable :-) 20:01 sofar I'm still on gopher 20:01 tenplus1 never tried gopher 20:03 paramat small unobtrusive text below the logo seems good to me 20:21 tenplus1 nite all o/ 20:25 Fixer [oof] hey, little drums!