Time  Nick            Message
09:49 atorian37       hi all, testing ethereal NG right now (found it great!) - I am looking for a mod for mobs (monsters and animals) in a ethereal world. wich one do you suggest? using 0.4.17.1 (newest stable)
10:10 Shara           mobs-redo, mobs-animal, mobs-monster are a good start
10:22 atorian37       Shara: tnx! do they need to be aproved for ethereal NG or are they anyway?
10:23 Shara           They are maintained by the same person. So they will work with Ethereal
10:24 atorian37       oh ok, great, will give it a try...
10:24 Shara           :)
11:07 atorian37       ouch...tried to use mg_villages with ethereal NG - does not work, right? got an error when connecting to server and server crashes...
11:12 Shara           villages mod always makes me crash
11:41 atorian37       Shara: makes YOU crash, or the server? :)
11:44 Shara           Both
11:44 Shara           It gave OOM errors, for me in singleplayer, and on a server I helped with
12:30 Fixer           please post a bugreport
12:32 ChimneySwift    ^ might not be handling memory properly
12:32 Shara           OOM isn't a specific bug. It's just OOM
12:33 Fixer           out of memory
12:33 Fixer           means mod owner should work on mem usage optimisations for the mod
12:33 Shara           not a specific bug though
12:34 Shara           Plus the one issue I opened there, over a year ago now, has yet to get a reply... so not motivated to add more
12:34 Fixer           Shara: just ping Sokomine_
12:36 ChimneySwift    OOM might be an optimization issue or a Lua issue
12:36 Shara           Issues from april 2017 on have not been replied to, and she said before that she's busy. I'm also pretty busy, so again, not motivated to chase it
12:36 Shara           If you care, you can make an issue about it
12:36 ChimneySwift    yup
12:38 Shara           I provide a lot of feedback on mods already (did one review via email this morning), but have to limit it to where people are responsive or actually asking me for feedback
12:40 ChimneySwift    yeah, its not encouraging if they haven't replied to issues from 2017. I probably wouldn't worry about it. I was saying that atorian37 should submit the issue anyway, if they want to use it
12:40 ChimneySwift    that's a long quit message
12:42 Shara           villages is a nice mod, but it's pretty common for large scale mapgen mods to have issues, including OOM. Sometimes it's a case of deciding for yourself if the issues are worth working with, or not.
12:42 Shara           In the case of villages, I decided not, because there're a lot of issues in addition to the OOM and I didn't feel like trying to rewrite it
12:43 Shara           And the main attraction of villages to me was the idea of trying to slowly take over a full town... and you can't
12:44 ChimneySwift    yeah
12:44 Shara           Buy a tiny plot and you can never expand more in that village... kind of boring.
12:45 Shara           It also makes survival way to easy because it's filled with containers with all kinds of items you can just take
12:47 Shara           too*
12:48 ChimneySwift    yeah, there isn't a whole lot in them but yeah
12:48 ChimneySwift    I wish there was a loot mod like the loot in Terraria (if anyone's played that) that would be cool
12:49 Shara           Well, MTG dungeons have chests now, but I don't really like the contents of them
12:49 Shara           And I've seena couple of loot mods in use on servers, but again, the content is usually pretty unexciting
12:49 ChimneySwift    yeah agreed
12:50 Shara           Maybe because in general there are very few items, in games or standalone mods, that you can't just dig a few ores and make
12:50 * longerstaff13 peers around the invisible door
12:50 Shara           "Yay, a diamond pickaxe!"
12:50 * Shara         tosses it in the chest with 20 others.
12:50 longerstaff13   lol
12:51 ChimneySwift    LOL
12:51 ChimneySwift    seems legit
12:51 Shara           I want a loot mod that responds to depth and biome, and pobably some other things as well
12:51 Shara           probably*
12:52 ChimneySwift    yeah, that's what I was thinking
12:52 Shara           Anyone want to write it for me? :)
12:52 ChimneySwift    ya know
12:52 Shara           I'd like it for the game I'm working on
12:52 ChimneySwift    this is giving me ideas I might just give it a shot XD
12:53 Shara           MTG doesn't have distinct underground biomes lower than... -113 it seems, so the biome part doesn't really apply there
12:54 ChimneySwift    true
12:54 Shara           But the game I'm working on does.
12:54 ChimneySwift    but there should still be depth
12:54 ChimneySwift    I see
14:15 jas_            the zoom/map disabled messages are unfortunate.  i'd prefer nothing shown at all.
15:14 tumeninodes     https://imgur.com/a/LATQ2Ek
15:14 tumeninodes     !title
15:14 MinetestBot     tumeninodes: well, this is a good start to the day - Album on Imgur
17:09 Krock           o/
17:10 BillyS          \o
17:11 longerstaff13   \o/
17:33 tumeninodes     \|0|/
17:35 tumeninodes     friendly 4 armed cyclops
17:36 tumeninodes     1 appt no-show and 2 short notice cancellations... I dislike 'people'
17:39 Shara           You fed them to the cyclops and that's why he/she is now friendly?
17:40 tumeninodes     yep, I'll go with that
17:40 tumeninodes     no-shows happen... a lot
22:43 paramat         bad connection + autojoin perhaps
22:45 tumeninodes     freenode is bottlenecking ha