Time  Nick            Message
00:01 zorman2000      I'm (very) slightly tempted to tour the HUD code... but I know it will not be pleasant :)
00:03 zorman2000      Well, thanks all for your help, need to go, bye!
00:03 zorman2000      Keep up the good work!
08:33 MinetestBot     tenplus1: Sep-29 20:37 UTC <VanessaE> That ABM is causing lag spikes.  "5 to 30" seconds meaning the server deadlocks for that time.
08:34 tenplus1        o/ folks
08:36 VanessaE        greetings
08:37 tenplus1        hi fussel
08:39 tenplus1        Mobs_NPC updated, added self.npc_drops and self.igor_drops for trade items so they can be changed within mods
08:43 IhrFussel       Hello tenplus1 and the others
08:59 tenplus1        wb calcul0n
09:37 Krock           hi tenplus1
09:37 Krock           good morning btw :D
09:37 tenplus1        hey Krock, how's you ?
09:38 Krock           fine, thanks :D successfully migrated the website now
09:38 tenplus1        which one ?
09:38 Krock           http://krock-works.16mb.com/ -> https://krock-works.uk.to/
09:38 Krock           setting up redirects now
09:39 tenplus1        nice one :)  wait, there's a flash decompiler ??? how's that work
09:39 Krock           it parses the bytecode
09:40 Krock           and uses debug symbols to resolve variable names. then it injects new code by translating it back to bytecode
09:40 tenplus1        would be creat if we had a flash > html5 converter :D
09:40 Krock           there is..
09:41 tenplus1        o.O
09:42 Krock           https://developers.google.com/swiffy/
09:42 tenplus1        hehy
09:42 Krock           err
09:43 Krock           well, there are also surely other applications which attempt to do it
09:44 tenplus1        a flash standalone player would be handy for the many games online
09:51 Krock           there is.. at least for Windows
09:53 tenplus1        I think Samorost2 tgame has a standalone player in linux :D
10:33 tenplus1        wb chimney
10:36 xerox123_       Slept in >•<
10:37 tenplus1        -10 points for xerox, tardiness :P   heyas
10:38 xerox123_       Got maths hw to do now
10:38 tenplus1        eek, have fun
10:39 ANAND           maths hw = Great way to start a Sunday :D
10:48 xerox123_       ?
10:52 longerstaff13   lol
10:52 tenplus1        hi longer
10:52 longerstaff13   mornin tenplus1
10:53 longerstaff13   I see a ChimneySwift!
11:17 tenplus1        wb
11:18 longerstaff13   what's Fixer fixing now then? :P
11:52 ChimneySwift    i see a longerstaff
11:52 longerstaff13   meow
11:52 tenplus1        lol
11:54 ChimneySwift    lol
12:00 longerstaff13   http://www.speedtest.net/result/7678936760 <- what happened to my speed :(
12:00 * tenplus1      spreads longer's speed on his bagel and adds salmon
12:01 longerstaff13   lol
12:01 tenplus1        what was it before ?
12:01 longerstaff13   50 down, 9 up
12:19 Krock           longerstaff13: still nice spesc
12:19 Krock           *specs
12:34 longerstaff13   Krock: lol
12:48 tenplus1        hi aerozoic
12:48 aerozoic        hey tenplus1
12:56 ChimneySwift    better than my occasionally 4KB/s down XD
12:56 tenplus1        4kb down ? you on a 56k modem ?
12:56 ChimneySwift    nope
12:56 longerstaff13   lol
12:57 ChimneySwift    I have 4G in a suburban area with coverage from 3 surrounding towers
12:57 ChimneySwift    goes to show how fantastic those towers are
12:57 longerstaff13   :P
12:57 ChimneySwift    granted, it's not all the time, but still lol
12:59 Krock           TIL 4G stands for 4kb/s      /s
12:59 longerstaff13   ChimneySwift: move to the UK, many towers for different networks here :P
13:00 tenplus1        I can typically get 18mb down using mobile data
13:00 longerstaff13   I'm on Vodafone UK, can get 20 Mbps down and 16 Mbps up from that
13:01 longerstaff13   apparently anyway
13:01 ChimneySwift    what a great idea longer why didn't I think of that before
13:01 longerstaff13   lol
13:01 tenplus1        if the plan was unlimited I would be easier using my mobile as a hotspot :D
13:02 longerstaff13   :P
13:02 ChimneySwift    we're on Vodafone AU and the service is trash lol. we have about 20GB/month
13:02 ChimneySwift    lol
13:03 ChimneySwift    we have ~350ms pings, which is to be expected I guess. one of my friends is in the NT and has ~800ms pings
13:04 longerstaff13   oof
13:04 ChimneySwift    yay lol
13:09 longerstaff13   I'm still registered on my old sim card provider, EE
13:10 * longerstaff13 messes around with it on his old phone
13:10 tenplus1        am on GiffGaff, pay as ya go monthly for £5... am happy with them
13:10 longerstaff13   not bad
13:27 tenplus1        o/
14:00 Peppy           hi
14:00 tenplus1        o/ Peppy
14:01 Peppy           i'm working on a public mines auto reset mod
14:02 tenplus1        have an admin switch, a node that can be punched by certain players or privs only that regenerates a point below it
14:04 Peppy           i'm trying to do this with no admin interaction
14:04 tenplus1        if you put it on a timer then players could easily get trapped and die
14:05 Peppy           ho, I didn't think about that :/
14:05 tenplus1        and they would get pretty pissed losing all their stuff by getting trapped :D
14:06 Peppy           maybe get players in the zone and delay reset if any
14:06 tenplus1        you could easily make a button and a special priv to give to your trusted players/admin that can be punches to eithe regen area or place a huge schematic full of stone/ores
14:06 Peppy           I was planning to us /deleteblocks
14:06 Peppy           use*
14:07 Peppy           i'll stick to the button if i can't find anything else
14:07 tenplus1        :P
14:15 Peppy           mmm, getting players that are in the area sounds bad too
14:16 Peppy           the button will do the trick, thanks !
14:16 tenplus1        plus you could build a proper mine and have layers with smaller /deleteblocks to handle... less laggy :D
14:18 Peppy           those players do empty giant mines so fast, this would require huge building
14:19 tenplus1        I use the button method to regenerate the lucky block arena and have 4x differnet arena schematics that can be placed... they're quite huge and only players with 'limit' priv can punch it
14:20 Peppy           we use the same :)
14:20 Peppy           but /deleteblocks is not about placing schems, it's way faster :)
14:21 tenplus1        true
14:22 calcul0n        but with deleteblocks won't the mine be exactly the same each time?
14:23 tenplus1        you'd be easier teleporting (as admin) to a specific spot and regenerating the mines every month
14:23 Peppy           it will, but that's supposed to be newbies mine, so, it's not a problem...
14:23 calcul0n        i see
14:24 Peppy           tenplus1, we do that untill now, it's a pain
14:24 Peppy           as it requires to place a schem for the mine's spawn house every time
14:25 tenplus1        how big an area do you regen ?
14:26 Peppy           i don't regen anything yet, i guess this would be at least 200 blocs in each direction
14:26 tenplus1        that would lag the game for a bit and prolly end up kicking players
14:27 Peppy           i'll try local but i guess deleteblocks is not hungry
14:31 tenplus1        hi raven
14:31 Raven262        Hi ten
14:32 tenplus1        :P
14:40 IcyDiamond      why cant we use wallmounted on mesh drawtype
14:40 IcyDiamond      at least i cant get it to work
14:43 IcyDiamond      wait nvm
14:43 IcyDiamond      i think there was something else wrong
14:43 IcyDiamond      whatever
14:43 tenplus1        make paramtype2 = "facedir",   and on_place = minetest.rotate_node,   that wortks
14:45 IcyDiamond      is there a way to generate nodes in caves only and make them cling to the nearest wall
14:46 Peppy           tested, "/deleteblocks here 200" is  far less CPU intensive than "/emerge here 200" and only takes a few seconds
14:46 tenplus1        5.0dev has new mapgen decorations that could prolly do that, but you could always use on_generate to scan for nodes, check for a space and place an item
14:47 Peppy           at first, I thought it wasn't working since the cpu was not stressed
14:50 Peppy           I wish rollback were as fast :D
14:50 tenplus1        that's why I disable it
14:52 Peppy           well too bad, this prevents games from using it in the gameplay
14:52 Peppy           I guess this would require RAM loaded rollback database
14:53 IcyDiamond      https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-30-17:52:58.png not exactly what i wanted
14:53 IcyDiamond      XD
14:53 tenplus1        you would have to add a facedir check in there also for walls :D
14:54 IcyDiamond      using decorations here
14:55 tenplus1        ohh
14:55 IcyDiamond      https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-30-17:55:10.png oops
14:55 tenplus1        looks like mardi gras has come early to the caves :D
14:56 IcyDiamond      XD
14:56 IcyDiamond      how do i get param2 on these things
14:56 Peppy           ...or mosquito attack xD
14:57 tenplus1        what kinda crystals are they ?
14:58 IcyDiamond      well it seems i can have random param2 but not.. what i want
14:58 Peppy           they quite look like our axinite crystals, they're from mese_crystals I guess ;)
14:59 IcyDiamond      they are magic crystals from magicalities
14:59 IcyDiamond      a semi secret project of mine
14:59 IcyDiamond      XD
14:59 tenplus1        jello crystals, with ALL the flavours :D
15:01 IcyDiamond      dammit
15:01 tenplus1        om nom nom's his way underground :D
15:04 IcyDiamond      can i use minetest.find_nodes_in_area in on_generate?
15:05 tenplus1        https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/ethereal/src/master/mapgen.lua#L740
15:05 tenplus1        that's how I generate illumishrooms in Ethereal mod
15:17 IcyDiamond      is the radius param in find_node_near nodes or what
15:17 IcyDiamond      cuz it aint work
15:17 IcyDiamond      XD
15:19 IcyDiamond      wait it does work
15:19 IcyDiamond      just other if statement failed
15:19 IcyDiamond      yay!
15:19 IcyDiamond      awesome
15:20 tenplus1        eehehe
15:30 tenplus1        wb
15:31 IcyDiamond      can i add hud only when a tool is selected
15:33 tenplus1        you would need a constant check to see what player is holding and use that
15:33 tenplus1        globlastep, every 1 second, check get_wield_item and show/remove hud
15:33 IcyDiamond      oh jeez
15:33 IcyDiamond      that doesnt sound pretty
15:35 tenplus1        unless you select the tool and on first use set the hud and start a timer... if not used within 30 seconds remove hud
15:41 tenplus1        wb Krock
15:41 Krock           ty
16:12 tenplus1        hi gael
16:12 Gael-de-Sailly  hi tenplus1
16:13 Gael-de-Sailly  you could replace me by a bot that answers "hi tenplus1" each time you greet me XD
16:13 tenplus1        lol
16:14 tenplus1        hows your weekend coming along ?
16:15 Gael-de-Sailly  oh very nice
16:15 tenplus1        kewl :)  has been a quiet day here
16:19 rdococ          meow
16:19 tenplus1        wb fixer
16:20 tenplus1        ashaha, plugin not supported :)  hi rdococ
16:22 rdococ          tenplus1: if you don't have flash player then I suppose you could try to run it in the 3.0 beta, but that might have compatibility issues
16:22 tenplus1        is ok :P
16:23 rdococ          https://beta.scratch.mit.edu/#246917461 <- There are issues with how the blocks appear because of differences in font, but it still seems to work fine
16:23 ShadowBot       rdococ: Error: Delimiter not found in "HTTP Error 404: Not Found"
16:29 IcyDiamond      https://i.lunasqu.ee/replacement-focus-test.mp4
16:30 tenplus1        replacement wand, nice :D
16:33 IcyDiamond      im gonna attempt to do the tunneling wand focus that thaumcraft had
16:33 IcyDiamond      XD
16:34 tenplus1        is thatthe one that digs a 3x3 flat area ?
16:34 IcyDiamond      no, it creates a temporary tunnel through the ground
16:34 IcyDiamond      xD
16:34 IcyDiamond      or walls
16:35 tenplus1        oh, how long does that last ?
16:35 IcyDiamond      i dont know what it was called there
16:35 IcyDiamond      a few seconds
16:35 tenplus1        phasing through solid objects :D
16:35 IcyDiamond      ye
16:35 IcyDiamond      i guess ill have to use voxelmanip
16:35 IcyDiamond      it preserves metadatas right?
16:36 IcyDiamond      if i set to air using voxelmanip
16:36 tenplus1        I think you have to save metadata seperately
16:38 tenplus1        worldedit doesnt handle metadata when copying areas or moving
16:44 Krock           yes, it preserves metadata
16:45 Krock           also param1 and 2
16:45 tenplus1        is this a 5.0 thing ?
16:45 Krock           huh
16:45 Krock           it preserves the data at the *old position* in case you thought otherwise
16:46 tenplus1        just curious why worldedit can clone an area but wont copy across metadata contasined within
16:46 Krock           well, it takes a lot of time
16:50 xerox123        seems servers at the top of the list always have a duplicate entry
16:50 xerox123        LS-W has 2, Blocky Survival has two every now and then, CTF had two earlier
16:55 Krock           xerox123: no dupes on the HTTP page
16:56 Shara           The duplicates can be anywhere. You are just more likely to notice them when they are at the top
16:58 tenplus1        o/ shara
16:59 Shara           Hi Ten
17:06 IcyDiamond      shit, lua panic
17:06 IcyDiamond      lmao
17:10 IcyDiamond      area:iterp(minp, maxp) makes me run out of mem huh
17:10 IcyDiamond      why
17:10 IcyDiamond      the difference between minp and maxp is not significant at all
17:10 IcyDiamond      how odd
17:11 tenplus1        you running any other voxelmanip mods?
17:11 IcyDiamond      uh no?
17:11 tenplus1        can u show me current code
17:17 IcyDiamond      aha, so when minp and maxp are reversed, it starts infinitely looping
17:18 IcyDiamond      need to improve my direction based code
17:18 Krock           for x=maxp.x,minp.x,-1 do   works for me
17:45 IcyDiamond      i dont understand why set_data isnt working
18:05 tenplus1        laters all
20:06 rubenwardy      !tell Krock https://i.rubenwardy.com/thX9X.png
20:06 MinetestBot     rubenwardy: I'll pass that on when Krock is around