Time  Nick           Message
03:03 VanessaE       !tell tenplus1 "which call is lagging in bees now" --"ABM #2, same as [before]"  i.e. wild hives take anywhere from 5 seconds to as much as 30 to spawn
03:03 MinetestBot    VanessaE: yeah, yeah
03:03 ShadowBot      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 -- Burned wood
10:36 IcyDiamond     https://gitlab.icynet.eu/evert/quick_harvest/blob/master/init.lua made a quick mod to harvest crops via right clicking
10:36 IcyDiamond     xD
10:36 IcyDiamond     super hax
10:39 IcyDiamond     i dont know which mod did that in minecraft, but i love it and need it
10:46 IcyDiamond     oh crud i forgot protection check
10:52 IcyDiamond     oh and it only works with farming_redo
11:43 Fixer          nice
11:43 Fixer          for lazy people
13:54 Peppy          hi
13:55 Fixer          hello
13:56 Peppy          a weird problem appeared on luckyblock mod, it's not really random
13:56 IcyDiamond     i tried building minetest for android but i couldn't do it
13:56 IcyDiamond     errors left and right
13:56 IcyDiamond     so i gave up
13:56 Peppy          it used to work fine, the problem appeared when we compiled minetest with LuaJIT support
13:58 Peppy          any advice ?
13:59 sfan5          and what is this "weird problem"?
14:00 Peppy          well luckblocks would  (almost)  throw the same items every time
14:00 Peppy          so, randomness problem
14:02 sfan5          where do you get your randomness?
14:03 Peppy          well, several luckyblocs placed in the area
14:04 Peppy          each one should throw different items when hit
14:05 Peppy          most of the time they would now throw the same items
14:16 Krock          Peppy: randomness is never good when calling without any user input in between the calls. A pseudo-RNG should improve that a bit
14:16 Krock          due to more or less equal distributed values
14:17 Peppy          well, I'm sorry, maybe I didn't clearly explain the issue. I didn't modify the mod.
14:22 IcyDiamond     Krock: I haven't gotten that since April fools
14:22 IcyDiamond     Well done
14:22 Krock          maybe try to modify and see whether it improves anything.
14:23 Krock          IcyDiamond: not sure what you're talking about
14:23 IcyDiamond     :P
14:23 Krock          *wink*
14:24 Peppy          Krock : thanks, i'll try removing custom added blocks ;)
14:30 MinetestBot    tenplus1: Sep-29 03:03 UTC <VanessaE> "which call is lagging in bees now" --"ABM #2, same as [before]"  i.e. wild hives take anywhere from 5 seconds to as much as 30 to spawn
14:30 tenplus1       hi folks
14:30 tenplus1       hey Krock
14:31 Krock          hi tenplus1
14:38 Peppy          I guess I found the issue, some files were modified at some point, my bad, solved  :)
14:38 Peppy          thanks for your help
14:40 Krock          !next
14:40 MinetestBot    Another satisfied customer. Next!
14:42 IcyDiamond     !previous
14:42 IcyDiamond     !prev
14:44 tenplus1       hi icy and Peppy
14:48 IcyDiamond     hi
14:48 IcyDiamond     tenplus1: https://gitlab.icynet.eu/evert/quick_harvest/blob/master/init.lua made a quick mod to harvest farming_redo crops via right clicking
14:48 IcyDiamond     look at the level of hax
14:48 IcyDiamond     XD
14:49 Peppy          hi tenplus1
14:50 tenplus1       lo0lol
14:51 IcyDiamond     tenplus1: also, you mention registered_plants in api.txt but there is no such thing in the mod itself
14:51 IcyDiamond     lol
14:52 IcyDiamond     i had to do SO much hacking to find last growth stage crops and the corresponding seed
14:52 IcyDiamond     it should be this ugly
14:52 IcyDiamond     shouldn't*
14:54 tenplus1       will look into that after I finish with bee's
14:54 IcyDiamond     why do you put an apostrophe in bees
14:54 IcyDiamond     XD
14:55 tenplus1       that's a tiny bee
14:55 IcyDiamond     lol ok
14:56 tenplus1       I really feel that lbm's need a neighbours table to be like abm's
15:00 IcyDiamond     tenplus1: also, you might want to change WTFPL to CC0
15:01 tenplus1       is this for bees?
15:01 IcyDiamond     yeah
15:01 tenplus1       I cannot... it's not my mod...
15:01 IcyDiamond     ?
15:02 tenplus1       Bas80 made the bee;s mod, all I've done if tidy code, fix issues and add a few things... it's still hismod
15:02 tenplus1       so he controls license
15:02 IcyDiamond     WTFPL has no restrictions
15:02 IcyDiamond     thats the point
15:02 tenplus1       will try and ask him if still around
15:04 tenplus1       VanessaE: you around ???
15:12 Krock          IcyDiamond: it has the restriction that you must rename the license when you want to "fork" it
15:13 IcyDiamond     haha
15:13 IcyDiamond     tenplus1: see? you're doing it wrong
15:13 IcyDiamond     XD
15:14 tenplus1       Krock: so I'm allowed to change the license ?
15:15 Krock          yes. CC0 and WTFPL are almost identical so it's fine to use either one of them
15:15 tenplus1       ahh kewl
15:15 tenplus1       thanks
15:15 Krock          WTFPL also allows removing credits and everything - but those should be kept because we're nice guys
15:18 tenplus1       icy, any plants added using register_plant() function will automatically add information to the farming.registered_plants[] table
15:18 tenplus1       usually with name, seed, minlight, maxlight and steps
15:18 tenplus1       just gotta add that same information to the other crops cause I never use it for redo :P
15:20 tenplus1       k, license changed...
15:20 tenplus1       bees git updated
15:20 Krock          bees BEES beees
15:22 tenplus1       as for wild beehives taking their time to appear, that's normal... they gotta build them first :D
15:22 tenplus1       I coudl change it to an lbm but scanning leaves would be super slow, so an abm running now and again is better immo
15:32 Peppy          i'd like to execute a Lua command twice a month (say, on 1 and 15) to reset public mines with /deleteblocks
15:32 Peppy          is there an easy way to do that ?
15:33 Peppy          hey, mod idea : minetest-cron !
15:38 Peppy          I could write to a file via cron in the world directory and let a mod read it, but this is not pure Lua
15:39 tenplus1       wb
15:39 Krock          ty
15:53 tenplus1       IcyDiamond: I've added crop information for each item in Farming Redo to the farming.registered_plants table
15:54 tenplus1       it's up to mod authors who dont use farming.register_plant to add information for each of theirs also
16:00 tenplus1       o/ calcul0n
16:00 calcul0n       hello :)
16:51 tenplus1       hi tim
16:52 timdorohin     tenplus1: hi
17:08 tenplus1       o/ CWz
17:18 rubenwardy     Don't use cc0
17:18 rubenwardy     It has no warranty disclaimer by default
17:18 tenplus1       am I allowed to change a fork to MIT ?
17:18 tenplus1       also hi
17:18 rubenwardy     Yes
17:19 tenplus1       ah ok, will change to MIT
17:21 IhrFussel      MT auto-complete is flawed... When there is a name "Wildberrry" and another "Wildberry300" then MT can only select Wildberrry
17:21 tenplus1       okies, changed license
17:22 tenplus1       keep hitting tab and it switches between them
17:22 IhrFussel      No it doesn't
17:22 tenplus1       hrm, strange
17:22 BillyS         A wild BillyS appeared!
17:22 tenplus1       hi billy :)
17:22 BillyS         hi
17:22 IhrFussel      The 3 R's seem to confuse MT
17:38 tenplus1       Levio-sah!
18:06 tenplus1       o/
19:30 tenplus1       hi Cal
19:37 Fixer          hello tidyman
19:38 tenplus1       wb ffixer
19:56 tenplus1       nite all
20:36 VanessaE       bah, missed tenplus1
20:37 VanessaE       !tell tenplus1 That ABM is causing lag spikes.  "5 to 30" seconds meaning the server deadlocks for that time.
20:37 MinetestBot    VanessaE: I'll pass that on when tenplus1 is around
20:46 VanessaE       on a more positive note, I'll just point out that my street signs mod has seen a lot of dev over the last couple of days.
20:47 Krock          oh nice. what has changed?
20:50 VanessaE       Fixer: my street signs combines the two principles. :)
20:52 PsychoVision   Hello Everyone :)
20:54 VanessaE       Fixer: why are we using [off]? :P
20:54 PsychoVision   I am here with a simple yet complex maybe question.. Is there a NON BLENDER definitive guide book explaining how to texture mesh Obj's?
20:55 VanessaE       PsychoVision: I'm sure there is, but blender or bust :P
20:55 PsychoVision   moo
20:55 PsychoVision   OK!
20:55 Krock          PsychoVision: many have tried, many have asked. Yet you'll have to google/DDG it
20:56 PsychoVision   I have many many times but every answer I seem to creep up on lands me in the same pot.. where Minetest only displays one solid exported texture or the overlay tiles like crazy
20:56 VanessaE       ok, that's simple
20:57 VanessaE       you know how to UV map in blender right?
20:57 PsychoVision   Not yet
20:57 PsychoVision   But I will learn if thats a starting point I should be
20:57 VanessaE       it is.
20:57 PsychoVision   I Build Models in Adobe Photoshop
20:58 PsychoVision   ^ I Use this for work A LOT so I am familiar
20:58 PsychoVision   So UV map needs to be flat I take it
20:58 VanessaE       it's just a matter of select a face, then go into the UV editor screen, load an image, and adjust the shape that's there representing the face you selected to make it fit the texture.
20:59 VanessaE       UV's are totally free-form, a UV map image can be any size, any shape, and apply to any number of faces/polys.
20:59 PsychoVision   OK!
20:59 VanessaE       one material per texture image file.
20:59 PsychoVision   GOOD Answer YAY!
20:59 VanessaE       does that make sense?
20:59 VanessaE       NOW.
20:59 PsychoVision   I Can understand that
20:59 VanessaE       ok, you have a model that looks pretty in blender.  it has 6 texture files or less.
21:00 VanessaE       right?
21:00 PsychoVision   Yes
21:00 PsychoVision   Flat actually Flat white ATM
21:00 PsychoVision   Hold On
21:00 VanessaE       it's fully UV mapped now.  NOW, make sure the material names are sensible instead of just "Material.001" and so on.
21:00 PsychoVision   https://pasteboard.co/HGbhMGI.png
21:00 PsychoVision   There it is
21:01 VanessaE       ok now show me blender
21:01 PsychoVision   One Moo
21:02 PsychoVision   I Have to export from Adobe and Import again
21:02 VanessaE       well just show me in Aadobe.
21:02 VanessaE       Adobe*
21:04 VanessaE       ok just tell me... is it fully textured in the modeling program?
21:07 PsychoVision   Says It need to be repaird -_- And Yes it is
21:08 IcyDiamond     Earth in Minetest is flat
21:08 IcyDiamond     Change my mind.tiff
21:08 PsychoVision   What you would Normally see as black has one texture.. the Keys Ivory texture the peddles are brass and so on
21:09 VanessaE       that's perfect.
21:09 VanessaE       6 or fewer textures?
21:09 Krock          IcyDiamond: at least there are no map distortions
21:10 VanessaE       Krock: Gall-Peters FTW ;)
21:10 IcyDiamond     Krock: was that a jab at jeija?
21:10 IcyDiamond     XD
21:10 Krock          IcyDiamond: yes. but it was still a cube
21:10 PsychoVision   Yes 4 Textures
21:11 IcyDiamond     Where has Jeija disappeared to
21:11 IcyDiamond     All of his stuff is ded
21:11 PsychoVision   Exports as 4
21:11 VanessaE       good.
21:12 PsychoVision   :}
21:12 VanessaE       now in blender, or in Adobe if you can figure out the equivalents, export to OBJ with these settings:
21:12 VanessaE       http://i.imgur.com/E0mRov3.png
21:13 PsychoVision   I THink so :D
21:13 PsychoVision   I've seen these B 4
21:13 VanessaE       ok.
21:13 IcyDiamond     I know that mesecons is not maintained by him anymore either
21:14 VanessaE       once you export,  grep "g " yourfile.obj    or open in a text editor and search for "g "  (that's lower g and a space).  the results will tell you the texture order in the file.
21:14 VanessaE       then you just do tiles = { the texture files in the order shown by that grep)
21:14 VanessaE       }
21:15 PsychoVision   NICE!
21:15 VanessaE       see?  it's dead simple ;)
21:15 PsychoVision   Okokokokokokkokkokokokokok I will try this
21:15 * PsychoVision Hugs
21:16 PsychoVision   Thank You so Very much for the walkthru
21:16 VanessaE       models + textures into blender, OBJ out with those settings, then specify the model and texture list in your code :)
21:16 IcyDiamond     VanessaE: do you happen to know Jeija? What's he up to these days
21:16 VanessaE       you're quite welcome.
21:16 PsychoVision   I will try to get this going so my steampunk Mods will finally come to be
21:16 VanessaE       IcyDiamond: I sorta know him, he's still doing mesecons afaik.
21:17 IcyDiamond     Hmm.
21:17 Krock          IcyDiamond: probably just busy with IRL stuff
21:17 IcyDiamond     Most likely
21:20 VanessaE       Krock: nah, he already did that :)
22:48 zorman2000     Hi all, I'm having a small problem... want to hide the health bar, however, hard as a I try I still see it
22:48 zorman2000     I'm trying to use the following: local flags = player:hud_get_flags() flags.healthbar = false player:hud_set_flags(flags)
22:59 Shara          At a guess, player:hud_set_flags({healthbar = false}) might do it
22:59 paramat        just what i was about to suggest, no need to 'get'
23:07 zorman2000     It doesn't work either way
23:07 zorman2000     I tried that because that was what hudbars mod did
23:07 zorman2000     But I also tried Shara's suggestion at the beginning
23:07 zorman2000     Btw, it is working in 0.4.16
23:07 zorman2000     I suspect a bug
23:07 paramat        doing this in-game, not on mod load?
23:08 zorman2000     Doing it on the player_api mod, inside a minetest.register_on_joinplayer
23:09 paramat        yeah seems correct
23:09 Shara          So this is only an issue for 5.0.0?
23:10 zorman2000     It seems so... will checkout the most latest version and check
23:10 Shara          I can test in a bit
23:10 paramat        https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/24900f7da571f9851e50be35753c091f11b7be1e/mods/map/init.lua#L23 map mod does it this way
23:11 paramat        .. but not for wielditem
23:11 Shara          I've only ever played around with disabling map before, not the healthbar
23:11 zorman2000     I just want to disable healthbar and breathbar (was trying healthbar first)
23:11 zorman2000     Writing a custom HUD mod so wanted to do that
23:12 paramat        sorry, 'healthbar'
23:12 zorman2000     Yeah, I saw the code, I definitely tried player:hud_set_flags({healthbar = false}) first thing
23:13 zorman2000     Compiling latest 0.5.0...
23:14 zorman2000     Also, while that happens, had a question about hotbar. Noticed the background image is 596 pixels long
23:14 zorman2000     So I tried to place a HUD image of 596 pixels long on top of it, and it was like 128 pixels longer
23:15 zorman2000     Scale of the image was 1,1, so not sure if Minetest is drawing the hotbar smaller or the images larger
23:18 Shara          Okay, so I can confirm using a simple test mod that player:hud_set_flags({healthbar = false}) works in current stable, but not in 5.0.0
23:19 zorman2000     Yeah, and probably because of the same, adding a HUD image right on top of the hotbar doesn't gets rendered
23:19 zorman2000     Only the healthbar
23:19 Shara          Disabling the map still works
23:21 zorman2000     Should I open an issue?
23:21 Shara          I can also disable breathbar and wielditem fine; it's really just health
23:21 Shara          If there's not one yet, yes :)
23:24 Shara          Looks like it's been reported
23:25 zorman2000     I was looking and can't find... can you please give me the link?
23:25 Shara          moment.. reading a few threads here
23:26 zorman2000     Sure!
23:26 Shara          It was reported here, but looks like this was closed because devs didn't understand at the time: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7191
23:28 Shara          (the person reporting it didn't help by mixing up other issues)
23:29 zorman2000     Yes, true, added a comment there about the specific healthbar issue
23:31 Shara          Added comment
23:31 zorman2000     Thanks for the help!
23:31 Shara          paramat: can we reopen that? There's definitely something up with it
23:31 paramat        yeah sure
23:31 paramat        is this in singleplayer or multiplayer?
23:31 Shara          I would, but technically shouldn't :P
23:31 Shara          I've only tested singleplayer
23:31 zorman2000     I was hosting game
23:31 zorman2000     So multiplayer
23:32 Shara          So both
23:32 paramat        wondering if 'on joinplayer' is too early in singleplayer and a 'minetest.after()' is needed for the healthbar. just a random thought
23:32 paramat        ah
23:33 paramat        reopened
23:33 zorman2000     I can certainly trying adding the minetest.after for the sake of it
23:33 Shara          well, it's already bad enough that minetest.after is needed for max hp setting... but I'll drop one in in a sec just to be completely sure
23:34 paramat        well if it fails in multiplayer the environment is already up and running
23:35 Shara          Only here's the thing... with .after it works
23:36 zorman2000     I just added a minetest.after like this: minetest.after(1, function() player:hud_set_flags({healthbar=false}) end)
23:36 zorman2000     I can still see the healthbar... but! It doesn't update anymore
23:36 zorman2000     I got hurt and it didn't update
23:36 Shara          It's removed the healthbar for me on singleplayer
23:38 zorman2000     Ok, created new world and it removed it now
23:38 zorman2000     But just logged in/out and it is back...
23:39 Shara          I've had issues with on join while setting up other things
23:39 Shara          In my case the problem was max hp
23:39 zorman2000     So, what is the recommendation? Should I do it outside on_join?
23:40 zorman2000     Doing it inside a globalstep certainly helps
23:41 paramat        heh
23:42 zorman2000     Ok, did a minetest.after(2), not inside any other code, it works
23:42 zorman2000     Crazy
23:42 Shara          I only needed 0.1 to make it work
23:42 zorman2000     Let me try
23:43 zorman2000     Yes, I can confirm 0.1 works too
23:43 zorman2000     Thanks for the workaround... I really needed to continue on 0.5.0 (using player metadata)
23:44 paramat        so lowered issue to 'low priority' hope this is ok
23:44 Shara          paramat: it will break mods
23:44 paramat        oh
23:44 paramat        reverted
23:45 Shara          There's clearly a change somewhere that's affected register_on_joinplayer. You shouldn't need to drop in .afters even on multiplayer
23:46 Shara          It's kind of funny... I was tempted to start looking at hud mods today as well, and didn't get around to it
23:46 zorman2000     Now you did :)
23:46 Shara          Now I just want to hide from them more :)
23:48 zorman2000     HUD is hard indeed, things don't behave as one would expect
23:53 paramat        oh and the hotbar textures are indeed scaled
23:53 paramat        that is, the 8 slot frame and the selector frame
23:54 zorman2000     Right
23:54 zorman2000     It is like 0.8 of the original size
23:54 zorman2000     Is this documented somewhere?
23:55 VanessaE       I wish hotbar textures were only scaled to react to gui scaling et. al, but cropped or tiled horizontally so that one could just provide a single image for all possible hotbar lengths.
23:56 VanessaE       you know, crop the width to #slots*height
23:56 VanessaE       (so assume square slot images)
23:57 paramat        not documented no