Time  Nick           Message
01:41 ircSparky      was there a minetest setting that had nodes init only when they are needed?
02:33 bobr           lots of netwsplits tonite
02:46 paramat        not that i know of
02:48 VanessaE       https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2178&start=75#p329030
02:48 VanessaE       \o/
02:55 VanessaE       all mod maintainers:  please check for pull requests.
05:25 nerzhul        rubenwardy when do we got a such shader?  :p
05:26 VanessaE       maybe when the Lua API allows it :)
05:35 nerzhul        VanessaE no relation
05:36 VanessaE       so? :)
09:24 MinetestBot    tenplus1: Aug-22 22:23 UTC <paramat> please can you edit https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2142 as requested, then both PRs wil be merged
09:24 tenplus1       hi folks
09:28 VanessaE       hey tenplus1
09:28 tenplus1       hi Vanessa, how's things ?
09:29 VanessaE       things is okay :)
09:29 tenplus1       heh... testing my new keyboard, works!
09:33 tenplus1       hrm, github really wont let me edit a pull request... is so weird
09:35 tenplus1       'lo bob
09:35 bobr           hiya ten
09:38 tenplus1       Lucky Blocks and Fire Redo updated...
10:03 tenplus1       wb
10:07 tenplus1       o/ Gael-de-Sailly
10:07 Gael-de-Sailly hi tenplus1
10:09 tenplus1       wb chimney
10:11 ChimneySwift   ty tenplus1
10:37 tenplus1       lol
10:41 tenplus1       hi andrey
10:41 tenplus1       hey fussel
10:41 Andrey01       Hi everyone
10:42 Andrey01       does minetest have "/setspawn" command? If no, could you, devs, add it for 5.0.0?
10:42 rubenwardy     No
10:42 rubenwardy     /set
10:42 tenplus1       it already has /sethome /home and sleeping in a bed sets respawn position...  static_spawnpoint exists in minetest.conf
10:43 IhrFussel      Hello tenplus1 and others^^ Okay so player cout on servers is indeed completely random...I did NOT change a damn thing on my server that could lead to players leaving, yet suddenly I only get 3 (yesterday 15) right now
10:43 IhrFussel      count*
10:44 tenplus1       it happens :)
10:44 IhrFussel      MT userbase is simply too small for the many servers
10:44 Andrey01       and other request: i would like to create new "home decor-like" mod that adds new furniture and could you add a chance to make mirrors?
10:45 tenplus1       without changing engine grabbing a 3d scene as a texture is currently impossible
10:46 Andrey01       yeah, yes, but i would like devs to add that chance
10:46 IhrFussel      You mean feature
10:46 IhrFussel      Chance makes no sense
10:47 tenplus1       seems very overcomplicated and specialised just for a mirror... just add a nice mirror texture instead
10:48 Andrey01       and still: i noticed in Content DB installer it doesn`t display dependencies, releases, tags and short description on trying to view, why?
10:49 Andrey01       it displays only description
10:49 Andrey01       and screenshots it doesn`t display
10:50 Andrey01       http://www.imageup.ru/img190/3153846/screenshot_20180823_135011.png
10:50 Andrey01       ^^ example above
10:51 tenplus1       not my area
10:52 Andrey01       what?
10:52 tenplus1       content db and how it works isnt my area, I only upload my mods there
10:54 Andrey01       btw, what to do with this: http://www.imageup.ru/img190/3153849/screenshot_20180823_135334.jpg
10:54 Andrey01       i mean is this possible to reduce the size of wielded item?
10:55 tenplus1       visual_scale = 0.5,  in node registry
10:56 Andrey01       then reduce the size of node that will be set in world
10:56 Andrey01       i have already checked it
10:56 Andrey01       and inventory image, too
10:57 tenplus1       then why not add a separate inventory image or wield texture that appears nortmal
10:58 Andrey01       and how to add inventory image for so complicated mesh? just paint it in Gimp? i am not painter, though
10:59 tenplus1       just add a simple version, doesnt have to be great
11:01 xerox123       got my GCSE results today :D
11:01 tenplus1       hi xerox, good news I hope :)
11:01 xerox123       yeah
11:02 xerox123       9 in maths and physics, 8 and chem and bio and French, 7 in geography and English Language, 6 in RS, 5 in English lit LOL (luckily they count the 7 and not the 5 :P), A in Statistics and B in graphic design
11:02 tenplus1       w00t, nice
11:04 xerox123       </off-topic> before paramat sends me messages in !tell :P
11:04 rubenwardy     What are those numbers in a* a b c d e   etc
11:04 xerox123       https://ofqual.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/02/gcse-9-to-1-grades-a-brief-guide-for-parents/
11:05 xerox123       new grading system
11:05 xerox123       https://ofqual.blog.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/137/2018/01/Grading-2018-1.png
11:05 xerox123       that explains it a bit better I think ^
11:05 rubenwardy     Sounds stupid
11:05 rubenwardy     XD
11:05 xerox123       you'd be right
11:06 rubenwardy     Congrats though
11:06 xerox123       thanks :D
11:06 rubenwardy     Are you going to college? Which A levels?
11:07 xerox123       maths, further maths, graphic design and physics
11:07 xerox123       staying at my school for their sixth form
11:07 rubenwardy     Nice
11:07 rubenwardy     I did that but computing instead of graphic design
11:08 rubenwardy     Maths at a level is so much more fun than GCSE
11:08 xerox123       every uni Ive looked into doesn't have computing as a requirement, just maths, physics and sometimes further maths
11:09 rubenwardy     Don't do computing lol
11:09 xerox123       and this sixth form doesn't offer it anyways
11:10 rubenwardy     It's useless
11:10 rubenwardy     With hindsight, I probably would have done the killer combo of maths, further maths, physics, and chemistry
11:10 xerox123       I guess now would be a good time to write up a CV
11:10 rubenwardy     Lol
11:16 rubenwardy     Nah, time to relax
11:16 xerox123       now I have my vector to be able to attend freenode live this year
11:16 xerox123       #battletactics
11:17 tenplus1       :)
12:00 Fixer          #battletoads
12:00 tenplus1       hi fixer
12:02 Andrey01       i have a question: if player has a data that saves in PlayerMeta in during of the game and if he restarts the game that data will be lost?
12:03 rubenwardy     No, it's persisted
12:05 Fixer          jello
12:09 Andrey01       and btw, the size of particles always small even if try to increase them in size element, for exmaple if size = 10 they will be small no matter
12:09 tenplus1       are you adding a partcle or a particlespawner ???
12:09 Andrey01       i`ve just made new API for particlespawner and spawns particlespawners with samll particles
12:09 Andrey01       small*
12:10 tenplus1       thery work fine for me
12:10 tenplus1       show your code
12:11 tenplus1       if you use particlespawner then you need minsize and maxsize set
12:16 Andrey01       here it adds particlespawner when player joins the game: https://ufile.io/mi9hb
12:16 tenplus1       use pastebin to show code, not a paid download site plz
12:16 tenplus1       https://pastebin.com/
12:17 Andrey01       ok
12:23 Andrey01       i can not upload my code there, it is uploading for a long time and then it writes: "Can not access site", probably i have bad internet connection
12:23 Andrey01       now
12:26 Andrey01       or may i need to log in?
12:26 tenplus1       you dont need to login, just paste in the box and hit submit at bottom and paste quick link it gives you
12:28 IhrFussel      Anyone here knows a font you can simply specify in MT on Windows that supports Japanese?
12:30 ChimneySwift   I think the fallback font has Japanese
12:31 IhrFussel      But that's not the default right? I need to explain to Japanese players how to specify it
12:31 ChimneySwift   otherwise there are many fonts with extensive unicorn support online, Google has an entire font library designed to cover all characters I forgot the name of
12:32 ChimneySwift   ah
12:32 ChimneySwift   lmao unicorn
12:32 ChimneySwift   *unicode
12:32 ChimneySwift   it's not default
12:32 ChimneySwift   but it is in the default client, it's just not enabled as the main font by default
12:33 ChimneySwift   in the fonts folder of their Mt installation there should be a font with fallback in the name, that's the one they should enable
12:34 Andrey01       now i can not upload my code, either :(
12:35 Andrey01       "Can not access site" it says
12:35 tenplus1       try this one instead:@ https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
12:37 IhrFussel      Maybe this one? DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf
12:37 ChimneySwift   teas that's the one, try that
12:38 ChimneySwift   *yeah
12:39 Andrey01       https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/jJHp5SsDmF/
12:41 rdococ         for some reason, my menu shortcut for updating Minetest doesn't work
12:41 tenplus1       hi rdococ
12:42 rdococ         the menu shortcut links to "git pull; make -j$(nproc)" in my minetest folder
12:42 rdococ         so idk why it doesn't work
12:42 tenplus1       andrey, why not simplemake minsize and maxsize = 5 to see if itworks without referring to table
12:42 rdococ         doing the exact same thing manually from the command line *does* work, which confuses me further
12:42 tenplus1       then you know it's the table to fault and not the spawner
12:44 rdococ         even weirder, "git pull" alone seems to work
12:46 Jordach        rdococ: are you sure you're changing directories
12:47 bobr           guys help me out big servers have map resets right
12:47 tenplus1       bob, how do you mean, what's the issue ?
12:47 bobr           well im thinking about los having a map reset
12:48 tenplus1       then remove world and create new one
12:48 bobr           but plebs moaning that players wont like it needs a map resest
12:48 rdococ         Jordach: I set up the shortcut via the menu editor, which allows me to specify a specific working directory to run the shortcut in. It only seems to work for one command, though.
12:49 rdococ         I just decided to split the process into two shortcuts for each build of Minetest I have.
12:49 rdococ         hmm, make -j$(nproc) doesn't seem to work
12:50 rdococ         (I mean, the shortcut for it I made)
12:50 Andrey01       minsize and maxsize are tables
12:51 tenplus1       andrey, for testing only, set them both to 5 to see if the partivles are bigger
12:51 tenplus1       if so then there's something up with the table values
12:51 Andrey01       each of those tables has numbers of each particlespawner
12:51 Jordach        rdococ: try git pull && make -j(nproc)
12:51 Andrey01       that is its size
12:51 rubenwardy     Map resets are a bad idea
12:52 rubenwardy     Just change the spawn
12:52 Jordach        you can also try git pull && make -j$(nproc) && ./bin/minetest
12:52 rubenwardy     Maybe use the unexplore script
12:52 tenplus1       depends in the map is corrupt, why the reset bob ???
12:53 rdococ         My laptop is a quadcore so I assume I have 4 processors, so maybe I could just do "make -j 4" after the pull
12:56 IhrFussel      Does Minetest support Microsoft IME? https://www.coscom.co.jp/learnjapanese801/msime_win10_en2.html
12:58 rdococ         can confirm, 'nproc' command says 4
12:59 rdococ         and that seems to work as a shortcut
13:06 tenplus1       Fire Redo updated with Parmat's new changes and a few extra's
14:40 tenplus1       o/ aerozoic
14:42 aerozoic       look!  I see a 10 + 1 !
14:42 tenplus1       :P
14:42 aerozoic       Does it annoy you when people mess with ur name?
14:42 tenplus1       nah, just a name :P
14:42 aerozoic       ok XD
14:43 Fixer          tidyman
14:43 tenplus1       o/ fixer
14:43 aerozoic       My server is always soooo busy and the weirdest times!
14:43 tenplus1       players from all around the world :)
14:44 aerozoic       I'm rank 1 btw :P
14:44 tenplus1       sweet :D
14:44 aerozoic       that is rare
14:45 aerozoic       i wonder if ctf is down
14:45 tenplus1       ppl tend to try out servers and hang around with the one's they like :)
14:45 tenplus1       you may have an influx
14:46 aerozoic       Welp, i don't see CTF in the list. That the only way any other server can get the top spot XD
14:46 aerozoic       imma join in stealth mode to see what all those peeps are doin.
14:46 tenplus1       does the ranking still give minus points for guest names ?
14:46 aerozoic       yes
14:47 tenplus1       if the names are allowed I'd still count as players
14:47 tenplus1       wb ruben
14:48 aerozoic       hi rubenwardy, did CTF go down?
14:49 aerozoic       well i have 14 players just wondering aimlessly in spawn.
14:50 tenplus1       !server xanadu
14:50 MinetestBot    tenplus1: Xanadu | 98.166.127.241 | Clients: 10/40, 4/12 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 113ms
14:50 tenplus1       10 players, not bad...  wonder what the 4/12 is ?
14:53 aerozoic       average/max perhaps?
14:53 tenplus1       hrm
14:53 aerozoic       !server UGX
14:53 MinetestBot    aerozoic: UGX Realms | 69.195.136.26:33151 | Clients: 27/30, 12/27 | Version: 0.4.16 / UGXrealms | Ping: 100ms
14:53 rubenwardy     aerozoic: my server meaning my dedicated server
14:53 rubenwardy     Which includes CTF
14:53 rubenwardy     And also IRC
14:53 rubenwardy     ?
14:54 aerozoic       I just didn't see CTF in the list after a quick visual scan.
14:55 rud0lf         !server *
14:55 MinetestBot    rud0lf: *** SkyWars *** by Telesight | skywars.telesight.nl:30010 | Clients: 12/50, 13/29 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 7ms
14:56 aerozoic       It seems that chinese app that spawns all those guest accounts has adapted, only uses 2 numbers at the end now.
14:57 tenplus1       that's ok, mines still blocks 2+ numbers
14:57 aerozoic       Mine doesn't. Half my player right now are Xxxxx12 format
14:57 aerozoic       I do block 3+
14:58 tenplus1       hey Krock
14:58 Krock          hi tenplus1
14:58 aerozoic       lets see what other servers have right now
14:59 aerozoic       if i include the 2+ players i have 7 right now.
15:02 tenplus1       same :P
15:03 Krock          VanessaE: seen the PRs. It's the same API call all over again so once it's proven that it works how it should, merging the other small PRs isn't a big deal ^^
15:03 Krock          hi tenplus1
15:03 tenplus1       hi twoelk
15:03 Krock          * twoelk
15:03 tenplus1       ehehehe
15:03 twoelk         o/
15:03 twoelk         o/
15:03 aerozoic       I see CTF in the list now
15:03 tenplus1       Krock:  what pr ?
15:03 Krock          tenplus1: unifieddyes PRs across minetest-mods
15:03 tenplus1       ohhh
15:04 Krock          https://github.com/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+archived%3Afalse+user%3Aminetest-mods+
15:13 tenplus1       heh
15:15 aerozoic       and now CTF is at the top LOL
15:20 aerozoic       Here's something interesting... My server allows 1 out of 100 "guest accounts" and i currently have 3 guests.
15:20 tenplus1       lol
15:20 aerozoic       That means my server is being pounded by connection requests.
15:20 tenplus1       nuuu
15:21 Krock          aerozoic: so by chance or string.match ?
15:21 tenplus1       inc. devlice
15:23 aerozoic       Krock, by chance
15:23 Krock          aerozoic: then you might want to also allow those who are already registered
15:24 Krock          otherwise they'll be upset not having access to their stuff
15:24 IhrFussel      There is no "single Chinese app" that generates the random names...it's several popular apps on iOS
15:24 aerozoic       Krock, yes that is part of the mod :)
15:25 Krock          tenplus1: the format is  Clients: [current]/[max] [avg]/[peak]
15:25 IhrFussel      We should finally accept them as regular accounts and not punish them anymore
15:25 aerozoic       So it's 1 percent chance only for new accounts.
15:25 tenplus1       ahh kewl, thanks dude
15:25 Krock          just like in the HTML server list version
15:25 Krock          !next
15:25 MinetestBot    Another satisfied customer. Next!
15:26 Krock          IhrFussel: well, my shameless reply on that would be that they 1) are rather low-quality players and 2) should install the official app or one that allows a custom name
15:26 tenplus1       now tokick gits ass for not lettingmeupdate pull
15:26 IhrFussel      Almost every server that doesn't restrict the app names is flooded with them
15:27 aerozoic       It's a slightly modified version of Shadowninja's name_restrictions mod.
15:27 IhrFussel      Krock, I don't think we should judge people by their names or app they use ... until we have no official MT app (NEVER) on iOS we also cannot tell them to switch to the real app
15:28 Krock          it's up to the servers to chose their player base
15:28 Krock          and to add restrictions for the names
15:29 Krock          if the players cannot match the pattern, they can join another server instead
15:29 IhrFussel      Yes but the server list punishes servers that don't restrict names which is some kind of discrimination in my eyes
15:30 Krock          they're weighted less rather than punished
15:30 aerozoic       I don't know about "discrimination" but it is surely an incentive to filter them out.
15:30 IhrFussel      No it can be a real punishment depending on how many app users are online vs "good" ones
15:30 Krock          a bunch of guests still push your server upwards
15:32 IhrFussel      My issue from long ago is still open on github and the last replies were "yeah we should reduce the punishing" but nothing happened since
15:32 IhrFussel      penalty*
15:32 Krock          propose a change
15:35 Krock          +1/4 points per guest acc and change start dealing a penalty of -16 when there are more than 24 players (previously 16)
15:36 Krock          -> https://github.com/minetest/master-server/blob/master/server.py#L337
15:57 IhrFussel      tenplus1, is my mobs redo version bugged or do monsters still attack players through walls?
15:57 IhrFussel      I mean they seem to still see the player and follow him
15:58 tenplus1       are the walls made of stairs ?
15:58 IhrFussel      Nope solids
15:58 tenplus1       the line_of_sight we use works through water, plantlike and slabs so it would need to be a solid node wall for it to block monster from seeing you
15:59 IhrFussel      My version isn't the newest cause I made some custom changes...so it definitely works in the current version and is likely a bug in my older version?
15:59 tenplus1       what changes did you make ?
16:00 IhrFussel      I added genders to animals, ratings and more
16:00 tenplus1       ratings ????
16:00 IhrFussel      Yes rating...the better the more HP/damage they do
16:00 tenplus1       how exactly do you rate them ?
16:00 IhrFussel      Random at the moment of taming
16:00 IhrFussel      Basic MMO element
16:01 tenplus1       is your edited api on git ?
16:01 IhrFussel      Nope, but I didn't edit line_of_sight() so it must be something else
16:02 tenplus1       the new line of sight isnt that old, could just be your api is quite old
16:02 rubenwardy     Genders are a social construct, man
16:02 tenplus1       that's why if you can, dont edit the api, use do_custom and on_spawn and on_breed to do the things you want without tinkering with it
16:05 IhrFussel      This my line_of_sight() https://pastebin.com/kptH8eXT
16:05 tenplus1       yup, out of date
16:05 IhrFussel      Can I just paste the newer line_of_sight() without breaking anything?
16:06 tenplus1       give it a go and see
16:06 tenplus1       I have no clue how far edited your api is
16:06 Krock          version control to revert in case of an emergency .. anyone?
16:06 tenplus1       Krock: huh ??
16:08 Krock          <IhrFussel> Can I just paste the newer line_of_sight() without breaking anything?
16:08 tenplus1       mobs redo has a version string to compare against
16:08 Krock          this is why you use proper version control. "save" your old code, overwrite and use the old code when smoething goes wrong
16:08 tenplus1       fussel, paste me the WHOLE api with changes and let me see if we can find a way to implement your changes without changing the actiual api
16:25 IhrFussel      Thwt won't work, I would have to edit every single mob file and I have 30+ on my server
16:25 tenplus1       not necessarily
16:37 tenplus1       could easily do a for loop through mobs.spawning_mobs and add a self.after_activate() function to setup everything ya need
16:42 tenplus1       wb gael
16:43 Gael-de-Sailly Hi again :)
16:43 tenplus1       :P
16:46 tenplus1       hi gary
16:48 VanessaE       just a reminder... all mod maintainers:  please check for pull requests.  especially the minetest-mods group.
16:48 VanessaE       also hi.
16:48 VanessaE       :)
16:48 tenplus1       o/ Vanessa
16:51 IhrFussel      tenplus1, can it be that you're missing a line_of_sight() inside the "stop attacking if player not visible" part??
16:51 IhrFussel      I mean when the mob already attacks the player and should stop to attack
16:52 IhrFussel      https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/mobs_redo/src/master/api.lua#L1892
16:53 tenplus1       yesm on purpose
16:54 tenplus1       if a mod see's you and attacks then it'll keep doing so until you are out of range and only then will it ignore you
16:54 IhrFussel      Why? That is exactly what I complained about...without the check mobs attack players behind walls even if they hide
16:54 tenplus1       if you are still in range it knows ytou are there already so will try to find you if pathfinding enabled, or hurt arrows ar you etc
16:54 IhrFussel      That doesn't sound that logical
16:54 IhrFussel      I will change it
16:55 tenplus1       if you go out in public and hit someone and hide behing a bin, they arent gonna stop looking for ya :)
16:55 tenplus1       it's mob behaviour until you are out of range
16:55 IhrFussel      Noo it looks stupid to see the mobs jumping and jumping and trying to attack the wall
16:56 tenplus1       well, they are angry... ehehe...
16:56 tenplus1       suppose I coudl add anattack timer where they give up after a certain time
17:02 IhrFussel      tenplus1, the problem is that the mobs can SEE through the walls
17:02 tenplus1       before attack or after ??
17:02 IhrFussel      They follow you behind solid walls, that is illogicalk as heck
17:02 IhrFussel      While they attack
17:03 tenplus1       just dumb movement, pathfinding mobs find you properly, dumb one's just point and try to go for ya...
17:03 tenplus1       will add giveup timer
17:04 tenplus1       hi Darcidride
17:06 rud0lf         is minetest (4.x) font same for every platform?
17:06 rud0lf         i mean formspec font, the one that's in table
17:07 tenplus1       dunno
17:09 aerozoic       rubenwardy, just curious i'm using your script but it doesn't add up. I did this just now: https://pastebin.qbuissondebon.info/?179be7c5313c153f#XE1bhMWtdjQESeqYs71/V/EJy9EzUd3Yc797Zd/PVDc=
17:09 rubenwardy     Try python2
17:09 rubenwardy     Maybe
17:09 rubenwardy     Can't remember which works
17:09 tenplus1       lol
17:10 aerozoic       rubenwardy, python2 just gives errors
17:12 rubenwardy     ,Heh
17:12 rubenwardy     I don't know
17:14 Jordach        OH NO
17:14 Jordach        i'm addicted to developing MT
17:14 Jordach        under C++
17:14 tenplus1       lol, hi Jordach... whassup
17:14 Jordach        i'm reviving a long missed RBA skybox feature
17:15 tenplus1       :)
17:15 * twoelk       gets excited
17:15 rubenwardy     Lol
17:15 rubenwardy     Pls finish the current first
17:15 Jordach        it all works barring get_sky at the moment
17:15 Jordach        i might as well add a bonus what should've been there to begin with
17:15 aerozoic       rubenwardy, oh well, even if it doesn't add up, it's consistent so #1 server will always show more than #2
17:15 ShadowBot      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
17:15 ShadowBot      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 -- Burned wood
17:16 * Jordach      laughs at ShadowBot
17:16 tenplus1       shouldnt old issues be closed by now
17:16 rubenwardy     They are
17:16 tenplus1       shadowbot should nkow this :P
17:16 twoelk         sattelite api with individual orbits for all?  (declaring moon and sun as satellites to simplify things)
17:17 tenplus1       how many satellites can we add ?
17:17 * twoelk       throws some more random t's and l's in
17:17 Jordach        twoelk: eventually yes
17:17 Jordach        currently you can now retexture them on the fly
17:18 Jordach        (but changing tonemaps to me is literally nogo, just use ^[multiply:#RRGGBBAA)
17:20 rud0lf         any idea about characters out of ascii 32..127 range that may be used as name in minetest?
17:20 rud0lf         i'm talking about minetest 4.x
17:20 Jordach        there, a skybox that rotates and is universal complete
17:21 Jordach        ie, it can contain something like a galaxy in the background behind the stars
17:22 tenplus1       nice
17:23 Jordach        i just need to figure out a nice neat way of making it work in sync with the dynamic skybox
17:24 twoelk         hm, only 4 years ago https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9140
17:24 tenplus1       got there eventually :D
17:24 Jordach        at least the textures can be rebound to whatever you want with texture modifiers
17:25 Jordach        https://i.imgur.com/1nzKTTu.png
17:26 longerstaff13  lol
17:27 tenplus1       the mese god awakens :D
17:27 IhrFussel      Is it heavy to call minetest.line_of_sight() every second with a maximum distance of 16?
17:27 Jordach        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UO_8U39qIM but this will return instead of as that, it'll look more like the stars at night rotating instead :D
17:27 twoelk         is resizing of the moon possible yet? so I can enlarge my old saturn texture from that thread
17:27 tenplus1       which is why I'm adding an attack timer
17:28 tenplus1       lighter option
17:28 Jordach        i have a better way
17:28 Andrey01       hi, again, why this code doesn`t work correct:https://gist.github.com/Andrey2470T/c00b4b94d60afa225a9d73580f036baa
17:28 tenplus1       whassat Jordach?
17:28 Jordach        something something smarter
17:28 Andrey01       this creates inventory that repeats those items that have player in his inventory
17:29 Jordach        it doesn't rely on first attacker advantage or latency or even device used
17:29 tenplus1       do tell ?
17:30 Andrey01       http://www.imageup.ru/img74/3154070/screenshot_20180823_202914.jpg
17:30 Andrey01       why does it happen so?
17:31 Jordach        depends on the order
17:32 Andrey01       what`s an order?
17:32 Andrey01       i want to create simple inventory without any repeated items in it on default
17:33 Andrey01       once it repeats, how do i need to make correctly?
17:33 aerozoic       Are there any plans to add account deletion as a feature?
17:34 aerozoic       for MT servers
17:34 tenplus1       admin command to remove all player references ???
17:34 aerozoic       Anything is better than the current nothing.
17:35 Jordach        obliterate the player fields
17:38 Andrey01       i have other question: how to check whether an item is passed for moving it to certain inventory? because sfinv.register_page() doesn`t have any callbacks
17:39 Andrey01       like allow_metadata_inventory_put()
17:41 Andrey01       does anybody know how to do that?
17:43 Andrey01       Krock: you remember did you tell me i need to write stack:get_count() to return a value from allow_metadata_inventory_put()? It calls an error!
17:44 Andrey01       ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: allow_metadata_inventory_put should return a number, guilty node: medicine:medical_bag
17:44 Andrey01       so what should allow_metadata_inventory_put() return?
17:45 tenplus1       Andrey01: https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/inventories/inventories.html
17:48 bobr           any one know which axis is up lol
17:48 tenplus1       pitch
17:48 tenplus1       or Y
17:48 Andrey01       tenplus1, i need to check whether an item can be put in certain inventory. It does allow_metadata_inventory_put(). Only what a value should it return on success of putting?
17:49 tenplus1       have you looked at examples like 3d_armor and smartshops to give you an idea how it works ?
17:49 Andrey01       no
17:49 tenplus1       e.g. 3d_armor only lets you put armor into the slots, so checking how it works will help you out
17:50 tenplus1       githib.com/stujones11/3d_armor
17:50 tenplus1       *github :P
17:52 rdococ         githib is the new alternative to github
17:52 tenplus1       lol
17:52 Andrey01       3d armor has huge code, what a folder is it in?
17:54 tenplus1       https://github.com/stujones11/minetest-3d_armor/blob/master/3d_armor/init.lua#L167
17:55 Andrey01       ah, detached_inventory...
18:10 tenplus1       o/
18:24 Andrey01       what is a value should allow_metadata_inventory_put() return on success of putting an item?
18:24 sfan5          read the documentation
18:25 Andrey01       i read! only it doesn`t work! the documentation says i need to return -1, is this true?
18:26 Andrey01       and i get grey screen if i return that!
18:27 Andrey01       true?
18:27 tenplus1       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L6093
18:27 sfan5          that's not correct, read the docs again
18:28 tenplus1       https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/money/src/master/init.lua#L114 <-- example
18:31 tenplus1       hi ssieb
18:34 rdococ         hi twelveminus1
18:35 tenplus1       o/
18:44 tenplus1       https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/falling_item has been running on server for a while now and seems to fix a few issues with default falling.lua
18:44 tenplus1       if anyone wants to check it out and try it :)
19:15 rdococ         Travelnets don't seem to update in VE-Building.
19:22 paramat        tenplus1 game PR 2142 is broken unfortunately, new PR needed
19:23 tenplus1       broken ???
19:24 paramat        see PR thread
19:25 tenplus1       https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2202
19:26 paramat        that was quick!
19:26 tenplus1       had a little help from coffee
19:26 paramat        anyway thanks
19:27 tenplus1       that's twice that github has broken my pull requests...  what's microsoft up to ?!?!?!
19:28 paramat        lol
19:28 paramat        will check it then merge
19:28 tenplus1       thx
19:34 paramat        +2
19:36 tenplus1       if you have the time, coudl you check out the above falling.lua replacement, I feel it's ready for pull but want a dev to test
19:43 paramat        maybe
19:50 tenplus1       :P
19:50 tenplus1       nite all
21:30 VanessaE       sofar: *poke*
21:32 sofar          ?
21:32 VanessaE       sofar: https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-steel/issues/8  <-- since Zeg9 never replied to this in over a year, would you mind at least forking at least this steel mod, and merging the outstanding PRs?  I'd rather not maintain my own fork.
21:32 sofar          yeahhhh
21:32 VanessaE       (fork to minetest-mods that is)
21:33 sofar          yeah we really ought to, yes
21:33 sofar          can you @sofar me in the thread, I need to do that later from home?
21:33 VanessaE       sure.
21:33 sofar          ty
21:35 VanessaE       I'll submit a ' vs " cleanup to it later, after outstanding PRs are merged
21:41 bigfoot547     Yo, does anyone know where the mobile client logs are?
21:41 VanessaE       sofar: also, you should fork/import https://github.com/andersje/stained_glass  no activity in a year, and mine is the only PR outstanding.  doyousketch2 is the originator, and his upstream is dead since 2013.
21:41 bigfoot547     The debug.txt equivolent for mobile minetest*
21:49 Fixer          text on signs in minetest, when?
21:49 Fixer          to be or not to be?
21:49 VanessaE       Juvember 41st. :)
21:51 Fixer          it is fun to explore those mc beta maps from 2011... feels like not 7 years ago, but 70...
21:55 Jordach        VanessaE: i've actually got a much more efficient way to render sign texts
21:55 Fixer          Jordach: make a move, then
21:55 Jordach        i'll get to it later
21:55 Jordach        at the moment i'm adding shinies to the skybox
21:55 VanessaE       ...
21:58 Jordach        you might have to use monospaced fonts
21:59 Jordach        think of how a 80x40 column display works for a moment
21:59 Jordach        then scale it down a bit
21:59 Jordach        monospace is technically important here
22:00 Jordach        more specifically, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L430
22:01 Jordach        just use one entity with one fatass texture over several small entities with single textures
22:01 VanessaE       um
22:01 Jordach        it's not like signs are constantly updating
22:01 VanessaE       signs DO use a single entity.
22:01 Jordach        hm?
22:01 VanessaE       and the text is composited onto the entity texture similar to your proposal.
22:02 Jordach        there is probably a super simple way to render it too
22:02 Jordach        in the way that i'm thinking, very straight forwards
22:03 VanessaE       where is kaeza when we need him..
22:04 Jordach        VanessaE: at the rate i'm going, i could probably reimplement xcom in MT
22:06 VanessaE       heh
22:07 Jordach        in fact i might change combat for SP to resemble xcom and probably battle network
22:18 ChimneySwift   I think it's a common misconception that signs_lib has one entity per character, I used to think that XD
22:19 VanessaE       yeah, the client's just slow at rendering entities, and at handling compositing.
23:42 aerozoic       shivajiva u awake?
23:43 Fixer          damn, is it just me, or minetest eat/take/place-water clicking mechanic is confusing?
23:43 aerozoic       lol, it's not obvious for sure. I always left/right click a few times to get it right
23:46 aerozoic       If the server lags for more than a second it really makes it fun XD
23:48 aerozoic       Anybody know the way to log a chat command using a separate mod?
23:50 aerozoic       For example, logging the /rollback command without messing with the game files.
23:56 Fixer          we need better footstep sounds
23:56 Fixer          walking on stone feels like you are a girl on high heels
23:58 ChimneySwift   lol agreed
23:58 ChimneySwift   maybe some actual sounds... of doing those things
23:59 ChimneySwift   it's a shame I don't have a decent recording setup, there's some nice dry grass around here lol