Time  Nick         Message
00:38 Sokomine     great..placed building spawner instead of chest....
09:31 Krock        I think Minetest is haunted. http://krock-works.16mb.com/u/selecting_the_right_server.mp4
11:12 nerzhul      Krock: nice bug
11:54 IhrFussel    If I set a global table of another mod that I depend on to something in a certain callback ... will the other mod 100% read my table value before it runs the same callback??
11:55 IhrFussel    Example: mod2 sets table[name] = 1 in a callback ... mod2 checks content of table[name] in the same callback ... will mod1 have the 1 mod2 set?
11:56 IhrFussel    mod1 checks*
11:59 IhrFussel    And if so will it *always* have the value mod2 sets when reading the table value?
12:00 sfan5        callback order is not guaranteed
12:05 IhrFussel    Is there anything I can do make it guaranteed? Maybe minetest.after() in mod1 callback?
12:06 Krock        Not guaranteed but in practice, if you depend mod2 on mod1, then it'll work
12:06 IhrFussel    Krock, but it can fail? rarely?
12:06 Krock        since new callbacks are inserted at the end of the table (using the official API functions)
12:07 Krock        it's a thing of when the callbacks are registered. mod1 which defines the global table for mod2 must register the callback first
12:07 Krock        which means that mod2 must depend on mod1 so that mod1 is loaded before mod2
12:08 rubenwardy   You can use table.insert
12:08 Krock        it will work, but nobody guarantees that it doesn't break in a new Minetest release
12:08 IhrFussel    So depending on the mod does guarantee the the order of callbacks between those 2 mods?
12:08 Krock        if both use the official callback register function, yes.
12:09 Krock        otherwise, table.insert(core.registered_something, 1, whatever_function)
12:10 Krock        doing the same with my Lua mapgen so that other Lua mods can rely on that the terrain is generated when they load
12:11 IhrFussel    Well I'm thinking about adding death reasons to 0.4.17.1 and I know that it is hacky but I *could* just depend on mods that cause player deaths and set the reason there for my 'deathreason' mod to read and display in chat
12:11 Krock        damage reasons (including death) is already available in 5.0-dev
12:11 IhrFussel    I know that but 5.0.0 is next year...maybe
12:12 rubenwardy   Cherry pick
12:14 Krock        oh well, the side-effect of my exploit tests is now that default chests never close
12:14 Krock        digging them seems to be impossible to in 0.4.17
12:15 IhrFussel    Cannot dig opened chests, correct
12:16 IhrFussel    Which is why I always hope that player don't log off while moving stuff in chests
12:16 IhrFussel    Not sure if logging off still causes it...one sec
12:17 IhrFussel    It seems that was fixed
12:18 IhrFussel    Or it only happens when I kill the client via kill -9
12:20 IhrFussel    Nope seems fixed...maybe it could still happen when the server crashes while moving stuff in chests, but that should be relatively rare
13:47 rubenwardy   !seen ShadowNinja
13:47 MinetestBot  rubenwardy: shadowninja was last seen at 2018-05-30 14:09:21 UTC on #minetest-hub
14:53 rubenwardy   IcyDiamond: #7469 merged
14:53 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7469 -- Formspecs: Add tooltip element for area by rubenwardy
14:56 ANAND        :hooray:
14:57 * rubenwardy kicks ANAND
14:57 rubenwardy   this aint Discord
14:57 rubenwardy   y'know
14:57 * ANAND      yays
14:57 ANAND        better? :)
15:06 rubenwardy   don't let paramat catch you
15:48 IhrFussel    So there is no way to damage players directly in 0.4.17.1 when they are attached to something? Maybe I could add in the punch function of mobs to check for get_luaentity().driver and cause the damage that way...could that work?
15:58 Krock        attached entities cannot be damaged in 0.4.x by a Lua function call
15:59 Krock        if working around, then you'd have to call set_hp
15:59 Krock        also: get_attach() is more general than just .driver
16:00 IhrFussel    I just need it to work for cars on my server and all cars have .driver and .passenger
16:01 IhrFussel    Krock, this should work I think https://pastebin.com/NyZuvFwH
16:03 IhrFussel    That code is right before self.attack:punch() of api.lua (mobs redo)
16:05 Krock        my eyes hurt. where are the indents? :(
16:06 Krock        I don't know what kind of API you're using there but I guess 20 should be replaced by get_hp
16:07 IhrFussel    No cause I use custom HP...the 20 never changes (unless the player dies)
16:12 Fixer        "The Web Monkey Academy" lel
16:12 Fixer        literally
16:21 IhrFussel    It works
16:21 IhrFussel    Now I have to code the same hack for PvP
16:24 paramat      oi, language :)
16:33 IhrFussel    So this should work in the defininition of the cars I guess https://pastebin.com/f8BtWyEu
16:33 IhrFussel    Oops...is_player() is missing
16:41 IhrFussel    What happens if a player dies while attached to something?
16:41 IhrFussel    Could it crash in 0.4.X?
16:54 Krock        maybe.
16:55 IhrFussel    Nope
16:56 IhrFussel    Bones appear inside the car but that's it
17:39 IhrFussel    How can I do a "contains_item" on a detahced inv? is the list name "main" then?
17:39 IhrFussel    detached*
17:40 rubenwardy   the list name is what you make it
17:40 IhrFussel    I want to check if the detached 3d_armor inv contains a certain armor
17:40 rubenwardy   there's nothing special about main, except it's the list name that the engine uses for players
17:40 rubenwardy   then you need to check how 3d armor is coded
17:41 IhrFussel    I found local dinv = minetest.get_inventory({type="detached", name=name.."_armor"})
17:41 rubenwardy   that's the inventory name
17:41 rubenwardy   not the list name
17:41 rubenwardy   there will be a set_size() somewhere
17:43 IhrFussel    So dinv:contains_item("armor",stackname) I guess
17:51 IhrFussel    Is it slow to check a detached inventory on every attack (mostly once per sec)?
17:54 Krock        do some profiling, but I wouldn't think so
19:34 Krock        aww.. Sokomine! You really disappointed me. I thought your mod would also include Pirate NPCs
19:35 Krock        just kidding. It looks amazing :)
19:38 IhrFussel    YES!! I implemented attached player damage in 0.4.17.1
19:38 IhrFussel    Works both with monsters and players
19:38 Krock        Since when do monsters ride carts or cars?
19:39 IhrFussel    I mean monsters attacking players in cars...that didn't work in 0.4.X
19:40 IhrFussel    Entities can only punch the parent of the player when attached...and if that parent has no HP defined then the player is basically invincible
19:59 Sokomine     Krock: the pirates are busy stealing blocks from other ships so that the new flotilla can be built. that's why you can't see them
20:00 Sokomine     besides...you need to complain to aspiremint :) his one is the pirate ship. mine is a peaceful trader :) (crew currently...er...missing, somehow)
20:00 Krock        hah :)
20:30 paramat      IhrFussel halting vehicles now fixed in engine
23:22 garywhite    welcome e-mail
23:27 Bobr         lol