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02:26 Megaf I'm quite sure I'm Autistic
02:26 Megaf hopefully I am
02:40 Megaf Yep, after analizing a lot of stuff I decided to read mroe and even do a test online
02:40 Megaf result was 37 out of 50
02:41 Megaf 0-11 low result – indicating no tendency at all towards autistic traits.
02:41 Megaf 11-21 is the average result that people get (many women average around 15 and men around 17)
02:41 Megaf 22-25 shows autistic tendencies slightly above the population average
02:41 Megaf 26-31 gives a borderline indication of an autism spectrum disorder. It is also possible to have aspergers or mild autism within this range.
02:41 Megaf 32-50 indicates a strong likelihood of Asperger syndrome or autism.
02:41 Megaf I am, hopefuly, meeting a psychologist on Monday
02:41 Megaf that test was for Asperger by the way
02:41 Megaf @paramat, how was school and college for you?
02:42 Megaf lol, "@" thing, too use to Discord...
02:42 Megaf Anyway, so it very like that I have ADHD and Asperger,
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08:50 tenplus1 hi folks
08:50 tenplus1 hey krock, you got a sec
08:50 Krock hi tenplus1
08:51 tenplus1 this pull: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2141  I have changes to add, but it wont let me edit it even though I posted it ?!?!?! any ideas
08:51 Krock heh, I can't greet you first when you join after me :(
08:51 Krock tenplus1 wants to merge 2 commits into minetest:master from unknown repository
08:51 Krock > unknown repository
08:51 tenplus1 ?
08:51 Krock you deleted minetest_game
08:52 Krock "oops"
08:52 tenplus1 wait, how ?
08:52 tenplus1 only mods I removed were my own which ended up on notabug /!?!/!
08:52 Krock well, the patch branches are gone https://github.com/tenplus1/minetest_game
08:53 Krock and the history tells me that you re-created the repo about 11 days ago
08:53 tenplus1 o.O
08:53 tenplus1 I dunno what's going on there, prolly easier to remove that pull and re-add a new one
08:54 Krock yes, you'd have to do that anyway
08:54 tenplus1 dammit, git is being weird now
08:55 VanessaE this is news? :P
08:55 tenplus1 hi Vanessa
08:55 VanessaE hi hi
08:56 tenplus1 VanessaE: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2186 <-- kept unicolors, works well with unifieddye mods
08:59 IcyDiamond o/
08:59 tenplus1 hey IcyDiamond
08:59 IcyDiamond hello hello
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09:01 tenplus1 hi lum
09:01 tenplus1 hi lumberJ
09:01 lumberJ hey ten
09:01 lumberJ tenplus1
09:02 tenplus1 ehehe
09:02 lumberJ :P
09:02 * tenplus1 needs to get a full sized keyboard... :) palm too close to return key
09:03 lumberJ does it make you feel giant?
09:03 tenplus1 yeah, feel like Andre
09:05 tenplus1 previous dye mod only used colours as names "Red" "Blue", never actually said it was a dye :)  added " Dye" to the end of descriptions also
09:05 * Krock slaps tenplus1 for not using a mechanical keyboard
09:06 * tenplus1 wants one but they are pricey...  this was 4 quid :D
09:06 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-07-28-12:06:29.png wish there was a way to hide these air pockets
09:07 tenplus1 ooh, nice indeed... also yeah Icy, I had same issues with coral/seaweed on ethereal
09:08 IcyDiamond the-game-you-shall-not-name's latest update fixed just that
09:08 IcyDiamond xD
09:09 tenplus1 only ssd
09:10 IcyDiamond lol
09:10 tenplus1 Travis liked my changes, all works well: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2186
09:10 IcyDiamond my pc is a modified hp 8300 elite
09:11 tenplus1 nice
09:11 IcyDiamond added a custom psu, a GTX 750 Ti and a 1TB hdd
09:11 IcyDiamond also ordered 16G of ram yestersay
09:11 IcyDiamond yesterday
09:11 tenplus1 oof, nice...   am still on 4gb with nvidia ion v.2
09:12 IcyDiamond GTX 750 Ti is a bit of an overkill for playing minetest though
09:12 IcyDiamond XD
09:12 IcyDiamond it reports my opengl version as 4.6 which is awesome
09:13 tenplus1 wow, all the features :) 3.3.0 is best I get but still happy with it
09:14 Krock don't worry, Irrlicht doesn't even use recent OpenGL advantages
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09:33 tenplus1 o/ fixer
09:34 Fixer \o
09:40 Krock hi Fixer
09:54 tenplus1 Krock: pull 2187, whaddya mean create a core PR ?
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09:55 Krock get_node_drops needs fixing
09:55 tenplus1 hi ANAND
09:55 tenplus1 get_core_drops specifically says use {} and not ""...  it's the usage that's wrong
09:55 tenplus1 am just fixing usage
09:57 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/item.lua#L202
09:59 ANAND Hello tenplus1 :)
09:59 tenplus1 o/
10:01 Krock get_node_drops()  for drop = ""  returns {""}
10:01 Krock and that case is also mentioned as an example in the deocs
10:01 Krock *the docs
10:01 tenplus1 returns empty string instead of empty table...
10:03 Krock yes, empty strings are valid ItemStacks
10:03 tenplus1 could always make it   return {drop ~= ""}   for either string drop or nil
10:04 Krock I think you mean  drop ~= "" and {drop} or {}  ---- or  {drop ~= "" and drop}
10:04 tenplus1 all I know is that when dropping tnt:tnt_burning it would sometimes drop the node as the actual item which we cant have, instead of nothing
10:04 tenplus1 yeh, that works :D
10:04 Krock ehm.. in falling.lua?
10:04 tenplus1 yup
10:05 tenplus1 the new one I'm working on checks the node to see if it can be replaced with what's falling
10:05 tenplus1 if it can then it places falling node, if it cant it drops falling node's drops...
10:06 tenplus1 in tnt_burning's case it shoudl be "" empty, but it sometimes dropped the node as an actual item which is weird
10:06 tenplus1 and it was getting drops from the return of minetest.get_node_drops
10:06 tenplus1 which led me to this issue
10:07 tenplus1 shoudl I add the:   drop ~= "" and {drop} or {}    as a pull ?
10:08 Krock so  core.add_item(np, "") does spawn a burning tnt node? hard to believe
10:09 tenplus1 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/falling_item/src/master/init.lua#L238
10:09 tenplus1 yup, it shouldnt, but it has on Xanadu when I was testing...
10:09 tenplus1 and I checked everything from overrides to core functions and the "" to {} worked
10:09 tenplus1 I dont get it
10:11 tenplus1 if a player opens a lucky block and it spawns tnt:tnt_burning and falls on a carpet the wrong way it would sometimes drop as an item, and I really dont want players using tnt on server
10:13 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/7592
10:13 Krock well, I don't see any reason why it would spawn a dropped tnt node anywhere
10:14 tenplus1 strangely neither do I, but it did and has happened a few times...
10:15 Krock "I don't know why it happens but let's change something that it might not happen anymore"
10:15 tenplus1 the {} worked
10:16 tenplus1 it hasnt happened anymore since changing that one thing
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10:36 tenplus1 hi Darcidride
11:14 Darcidride Hi tenplus1
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11:15 tenplus1 o/ aerozoic
11:15 aerozoic wazup!
11:16 rud0lf aerozoic: :)
11:16 rud0lf been a long time
11:16 rud0lf :)
11:16 tenplus1 hi rud0lf
11:16 aerozoic hey rud0lf!
11:16 rud0lf hi 10+one
11:16 rud0lf :D
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11:21 tenplus1 wb DI3HARD139
11:21 DI3HARD139 Thanks!
11:21 tenplus1 are many people using 0.5 on server yet ?
11:22 Krock scroll to the bottom of the server list
11:22 tenplus1 checknig :) thx
11:23 tenplus1 12 servers on 0.5 dev
11:24 Shara tenplus1: 12 empty servers
11:24 tenplus1 lol, hi Sha
11:24 tenplus1 *damn return key*
11:24 tenplus1 hi shara :P
11:24 Shara :D
11:24 Shara How's it going?
11:24 Krock hi sha1
11:25 tenplus1 tinkering, amended dye pull and added drops ones
11:25 Shara Krock: wouldn't I need to be dead then?
11:25 Krock no no, you're used in Minetest
11:25 Shara Hehehe
11:26 Shara tenplus1: I need to bully myself into looking at that. I find dye and wool in MTG nothing short of depressive though
11:26 tenplus1 lol, I've tidied it up and removed the mass of exo/base colours... just kept what's needed
11:27 Shara Do any mods use those?
11:27 Shara That's my worry
11:27 tenplus1 nope, only the unicolors which are kept
11:28 tenplus1 tested on unifieddyes, stained glass, wood etc
11:28 Shara That doesn't mean no mods use them.
11:28 Shara Just none of the main well known ones do
11:29 tenplus1 true, I've searched github and forums for one's that might use them, so far so good
11:29 Shara Okay. I will probably do some of my own searching at some point
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11:30 Krock grep -r "color_"
11:30 Shara Considering I removed dye requirement from just about all mods on my server...
11:31 tenplus1 how do you colour wool ?
11:31 Shara It's creative.
11:31 tenplus1 ohh right, thought you meant the survival one :D
11:31 Shara That only has mods using the basic MTG dyes
11:32 tenplus1 that's all ya really need tbh
11:32 tenplus1 15 colours are all ya really need, and if you really wanna be artistic 32 at most
11:33 tenplus1 that's why I had wool for vivid shades, bakedclay for darker shades etc.
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12:12 tenplus1 o/ CWz
12:12 CWz hello 10+1
12:24 Krock !up ente.kak.si 34617
12:24 MinetestBot ente.kak.si:34617 is up (149ms)
12:25 Krock old public world of mine. needs a 5.0.0-dev client
12:25 Krock since there's no readonly map possible in 0.4.x
12:26 Krock ^ Sokomine
12:26 Krock It's horrifying how many custom mods I had there. Some unknown nodes I'd need to re-add
12:27 tenplus1 :P
12:34 Krock okay, the server is announced now :)
12:35 Krock err.. pipeworks? why do you crash?
12:37 tenplus1 what's the error ?
12:38 Krock core.add_item returned nil
12:38 Krock it was not handled properly
12:38 tenplus1 ahh
12:42 BillyS *zzt*
12:42 tenplus1 hi billy
12:42 BillyS hi
13:35 xerox123_ !tell rdococ https://pastebin.com/DvE3AeX6
13:35 MinetestBot xerox123_: I'll pass that on when rdococ is around
13:36 tenplus1 hi xerox
13:42 xerox123_ Hi
13:44 BillyS [WARNING] Beware of rouge xerox
13:55 xerox123_ [May randomly explode]
14:03 IcyDiamond ok i got my heat exchangers and turbines working
14:03 IcyDiamond my energy cells are too tiny to contain all this power
14:03 IcyDiamond XD
14:06 IcyDiamond guess its about time i implemented machine upgrades
14:08 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-07-28-17:08:09.png heat exchanger is just stuck because i dont have a place to put all the energy generated from the steam
14:08 IcyDiamond XD
14:09 IcyDiamond (the pinkish liquid is hot coolant)
14:12 IcyDiamond the reactor is just spending fuel doing nothing pretty much
14:12 IcyDiamond XD
14:54 Sokomine Krock: why didn't it get highlighted when you mentionned my name?
14:57 Krock dunno
15:07 rubenwardy fixed the thumbnails on CDB
15:07 tenplus1 hi ruben...  cdb ??
15:07 rubenwardy :'(
15:08 rubenwardy also added the ability to create and view threads after approval
15:08 rubenwardy ContentDB :P
15:08 tenplus1 ohhhh
15:21 Krock Cannabis Disillusionary Banner
15:26 IcyDiamond :D
15:27 IcyDiamond rubenwardy: CDB doesn't accept WIP stuff, right?
15:27 rubenwardy it does
15:27 rubenwardy I'm changing that rule
15:27 IcyDiamond oh, really?
15:27 rubenwardy basically, it's aimed at end users
15:27 rubenwardy so the stuff you add should be useful to end users
15:27 IcyDiamond can i put elepower and fluid_lib on it?
15:27 rubenwardy directly or indirectly
15:27 rubenwardy if they don't crash immediately and has sufficient content to be playable, then use
15:28 rubenwardy *yes
15:28 rubenwardy argh, grammar
15:28 IcyDiamond might do after i add some more recipes and create crafting docs
15:28 IcyDiamond xD
15:28 rubenwardy sounds good
15:29 IcyDiamond fluid_lib is a library and it doesnt really add anything but its a dep of elepower, can i still add it?
15:30 rubenwardy yes
15:30 rubenwardy it's for libraries too
15:30 IcyDiamond okay
15:31 IcyDiamond oh, right, fluid_lib is a dep of melterns too
15:31 IcyDiamond I should continue working on melterns at some point
15:31 IcyDiamond XD
15:33 rubenwardy :D
15:36 Megaf Hi tenplus1
15:36 tenplus1 hi Megaf o/
15:53 xerox123 \o/
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15:54 tenplus1 pie!
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16:26 tenplus1 wb
16:26 xerox123 thx
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17:32 tenplus1 hi raven, wb Darcidride
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17:56 xerox123 o.o
17:56 xerox123 these people are always coming up with new ways to spam
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17:56 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&amp;t=20174&amp;p=327110#p327110
17:56 rubenwardy CDb change log
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18:09 Krock ...why's there water in my glass windows?!
18:09 tenplus1 condensation
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18:10 Krock might be errorous param2 values
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18:11 tenplus1 Krock: how would ya feel if carts were placable like nodes ?
18:11 Krock weird
18:12 tenplus1 lol
18:12 IcyDiamond Krock: yeah i was confused as why theres a liquid level in my glass nodes as well
18:16 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-07-28-21:15:52.png
18:16 IcyDiamond i have no idea how they even got a param2
18:24 Krock mine was caused by alias
18:25 Krock !up ente.kak.si 34617
18:25 MinetestBot ente.kak.si:34617 is up (30ms)
18:25 Krock ^ Minetest Museum world (2013/2014)
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18:29 Krock an LBM on every second non-terrain node because they're all deprecated -- nice
18:33 IcyDiamond lol
18:33 IcyDiamond #smart
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18:42 Krock "stampy" was very popular by that time. And no weird Nicknames143
18:45 Krock rubenwardy: I hope your JSON dump is cached
18:46 rubenwardy It should be
18:46 rubenwardy At the nginx level
18:46 rubenwardy Not sure why it takes so long for that, and also the main packages list
18:46 Krock so you can specify a maximal age for pages there? sounds interesting
18:47 sofar <3 nginx
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18:47 rubenwardy It's cached using a proxy cache in nginx
18:47 rubenwardy And there's a max age, yeah
18:47 rubenwardy Which the client can't effect
18:48 IcyDiamond https://gitlab.icynet.eu/evert/elepower/raw/master/screenshot.png updated screenshot
18:48 IcyDiamond also added more recipes
18:48 IcyDiamond :)
18:48 rubenwardy Nice
18:49 IcyDiamond bump mapping really makes my nodes pop
18:50 IcyDiamond XD
18:50 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-07-28-21:50:39.png some mapping thing causes these weird edges though
18:51 IcyDiamond like, those are not there on the texture
18:53 Krock Ship: lets fite. https://i.imgur.com/3tOqNQg.png
18:54 tenplus1 ooh nice
18:55 Krock meanwhile, in the plane: https://i.imgur.com/Nn4usmx.png
18:59 Fixer nice
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19:25 Sokomine krock: too large. still searching for a ship to spawn on mt's oceans
19:25 Krock maybe a boat?
19:26 Krock that ship requires about 10 nodes deep water
19:38 Sokomine a boat would be better. a sailing ship would be best
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19:55 BillyS My logs are being spammed by this message:
19:55 BillyS 2018-07-28 15:55:05: WARNING[Server]: ServerEnv: Trying to store id = 0 statically but block (-5,2,-33) already contains 72 objects.
19:58 Krock raise the limit or punish pipeworks
19:58 Krock or signs_lib
19:59 Krock that's a limit to not fill a single mapblock with an insane amount of data (entities). It might also indicate a mod bug, where entities are spawned but not deleted
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20:00 tenplus1 o/ gary
20:01 garywhite o/
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20:14 tenplus1 o/ andro
20:29 tenplus1 nite folks
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21:13 BillyS !server Blocky Survival
21:13 MinetestBot BillyS: Blocky Survival | mt.packets4hire.com:30005 | Clients: 6/50, 0/10 | Version: 0.4.17 / minetest_game_modified | Ping: 89ms
21:13 BillyS Hmmm .... its working with teh serverlist now
21:29 VanessaE Krock: it'll be signs_lib or item frames if he uses homedecor.  pipeworks' entities are not statically stored.
21:29 VanessaE (afaik)
21:30 VanessaE also 72 is ridiculously low.  200+ is more realistic (my servers' limit is set to 500)
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21:46 Krock wow. 500 per 4096 nodes. not bad.
21:46 Krock night
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23:53 aerozoic Anybody know what would cause the IRC bot to stop sending PM's but still respond normally in the channel?
23:54 aerozoic the irc bot from the irc mod for servers.

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