Time  Nick           Message
10:14 tenplus1       hi folks
10:14 tenplus1       Hi Krock :)  https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/falling_item
10:14 Krock          hi tenplus1
10:14 Krock          nice
10:14 tenplus1       o/
10:15 tenplus1       few tweaks with how things work, but a lot better :)
10:15 Fixer          tidyman
10:15 tenplus1       hi fixer
10:18 tenplus1       was testing node level with snow mod :) works nicely
10:19 tenplus1       IcyDiamond: love the npc buildings
11:05 nerzhul        particle overlay PR updated !
11:05 tenplus1       :) hi nerzhul
11:05 nerzhul        we now have a nicer Lua API + texture scale factor
11:05 nerzhul        hi tenplus1
11:13 tenplus1       hi aerozoic
11:13 aerozoic       bonjour
11:14 tenplus1       Comment allez-vous
11:16 nerzhul        bien et toi ?
11:16 nerzhul        why do we speak french ? :p
11:16 tenplus1       no clue, am okie :PPP
11:16 nerzhul        is this due to the brexit, the new language should be french ?
11:17 tenplus1       *shudder* brexit
11:18 Krock          DEUTSCH
11:19 tenplus1       dunno any :P
11:20 tenplus1       Krock: since you are using 0.5, coudl you check to see if falling nodes hurt player when standing directly under them plz
11:20 Krock          sure
11:22 tenplus1       thanks :)
11:24 Krock          ouch owie my head
11:24 Fixer          tenplus1: you have outdated mods on github?
11:25 Krock          tenplus1: it works for the node which lands at the feet, but not for the one which actually covers the head
11:25 tenplus1       yeah, mobs hasnt been updated in a bit... using notabug mostly now... was only included on git for package links
11:26 Fixer          tenplus1: so notabug is main one and newest?
11:26 tenplus1       that's kinda weird Krock, I always thought get objects would find player since it uses 0.7 radius around check
11:27 Krock          it finds the played for the bottom node because the feet are where the player stands
11:27 Krock          in 0.4.x it's 1m above where the player stands
11:27 tenplus1       you sure ?
11:28 tenplus1       my playerplus mod gets pot of player and takes 0.1 from y position to find what they stand on ?!?!
11:28 tenplus1       and it works fine
11:28 Krock          just set the player model scale to something lower in default/player.lua and you'll notice that the player hovers over ground in 0.4.x and stays on the bottom in 5.0
11:29 Krock          that works because get_pos returns that value, yes.
11:29 tenplus1       the 5.0 model change will affect a lot of mods it seems...
11:29 tenplus1       does increasign the radius to 0.8 help ?
11:30 tenplus1       line 44
11:32 Krock          no, but   pos = vector.new(pos) pos.y = pos.y - 1  does
11:33 Krock          in combination with 0.7 radius.
11:33 tenplus1       that woudl affect mobs in that case and other entities
11:34 tenplus1       I can drop sand on a mob and hurt it, and player... but with this chance only player would be affected
11:38 Shara          tenplus1: fun fact: sometimes it's easier for me to check something by realising you must have used it in one of your mods and reading your code, than it is for me to try and find it in lua_api :D
11:40 tenplus1       hi Shara
11:40 Shara          Hi 11, how's it going?
11:40 tenplus1       ok apart from the 0.4.17 and 0.5 player model changes
11:41 Shara          Mod breakage?
11:42 tenplus1       for some reason I assumed minetest.get_objects_inside_radius would use collisionboxes and find anything touching, but nope
11:43 tenplus1       does anyone here actively link to mobs redo or farming redo on github ???
11:44 Shara          So you mean the player model change has broken mods?
11:44 tenplus1       this is more aimed at 0.4.16/17 https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/falling_item but wont work for players properly on 5.0
11:45 tenplus1       it fixes the falling item issues for replacing certain nodes
11:45 tenplus1       and simplifies the code
11:46 Shara          Just thought Krock has said that it wouldn't be an issue due to how well it's integrated, but I guess I was right to worry then
11:46 tenplus1       I suppose anything relying on obtaining objects at a position will be affected by new player models
11:47 Shara          Yea, that's kind of what I figured
11:47 Krock          Shara: even with the 1m offset it would be inconsistent with the other entities
11:47 Shara          I have a few mods that rely on player pos, so was struggling to see how it wouldn't be an issue
11:47 Krock          also was my comment regarding minetest_game and mods that use models
11:48 Krock          player models*
11:48 Shara          Krock: the conversation at the time was about more than MTG, so sorry if I misunderstood that then
11:48 Krock          no, I wasn't being clear enough, I think
11:48 Shara          I really want my servers on 5.0 due to all the extra features but managing to get my servers there is looking painful
12:46 tenplus1       hi Darcidride
12:49 nerzhul        Shara just wait for a release
12:49 Shara          nerzhul: Of course. I don't mean I want to update now
12:49 Shara          That would be server-suicide
12:50 Shara          But mod-updating issues won't go away when release happens
12:51 tenplus1       5.0 will be a huge upgrade and many mods will have to be rewritten
12:51 tenplus1       hi andro
12:51 xerox123       yay 5.0
12:51 xerox123       no yay rewriting mods
12:51 Krock          many old mods will just directly fly into the 0.4.x soup of unmaintained legacy code
12:52 Krock          "well it works"
12:52 Krock          well, that if there are going to be more API changes
13:26 tenplus1       wb
14:02 longerstaff13  o/
14:02 tenplus1       hi longer
14:04 longerstaff13  hello 11 :P
14:06 tenplus1       :P
14:13 tenplus1       o/ Gael-de-Sailly
14:13 Gael-de-Sailly hi tenplus1
14:15 xerox123       hello Gael
14:19 tenplus1       laters all :P
17:28 Tenplus1       hi folks
17:29 Krock          wb Tenplus1
17:29 Tenplus1       thx :P
18:15 Tenplus1       hi benrob
18:15 benrob0329     Hi Tenplus1
18:15 benrob0329     Capital day, isn't it?
18:16 Tenplus1       lol
18:16 Tenplus1       ooh, ncie vid
18:34 Tenplus1       o//
18:35 Krock          \\o
18:38 xerox123       o/
18:38 Tenplus1       hi xerox, cwz
18:39 CWz            hello
18:39 rdococ         \oo/
18:41 Tenplus1       hi rdococ
19:40 Tenplus1       hi gary.... nite all o///
21:22 IhrFussel      The map stalling seems to not happen anymore since I added max_simultaneous_block_sends_server_total = 80 ... but that makes no sense to me cause even with it missing it should be '40'
21:22 IhrFussel      Maybe just no one with such a bad client joined my server since
23:02 orbitaldecay   Greetings!
23:06 Fixer          hi!
23:45 rubenwardy     https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-weather-latest-heatwave-satellite-pictures-hottest-summer-met-office-a8453666.html
23:45 rubenwardy     I can believe it, all the grass is dying