Time Nick Message 01:22 * rubenwardy has been waiting for the last 2 hours for his job to run on the super computer 01:22 * rubenwardy isn't even sure if the job will actually work 01:28 * rdococ watches rubenwardy wait for his job to run on the supercomputer, while simultaneously playing Minetest 0.8.4 on his time travelling hypercomputer 01:30 rubenwardy it's now running 01:30 rubenwardy that took 3.5 hours to start 01:30 rdococ what does it do? 01:30 rubenwardy fluid dynamics 01:31 rdococ Ooh, super-realistic finite water physics 01:31 rubenwardy yeah 01:31 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/bYAY4.png 01:31 rubenwardy outputs that, you can see the fluid being driven into a vortex/spiral 01:58 * rdococ sends some inputs to A NAND gate 02:22 rdococ I'm bored, so I'm imagining custom control flow structures 03:18 rdococ flight is tasty 03:29 rdococ I wonder if anyone's seen Snap! ( https://snap.berkeley.edu/ ) - imagine mixing Scratch ( https://scratch.mit.edu/ ) with Scheme 03:41 sofar 7+ million files served by the public remote media server 03:42 sofar 21gb of data in the last 2 months 03:47 rdococ Hm, I just thought: an interesting experiment would be creating a visual drag-and-drop language for Minetest modding 03:52 rdococ You would have a 'set node' block, a 'get node' block, etc. 06:03 rdococ Yay, I'm flooding in people! 08:21 tenplus1 hi folks 08:48 tenplus1 hi longer 08:49 longerstaff13-m Hi 08:53 tenplus1 Pova 0.5 and Mobs Redo API updated 09:06 Megaf tenplus1: 09:06 Megaf :D 09:06 tenplus1 hi Megaf :)) 09:06 Megaf I'm back 09:06 Megaf :) 09:07 Megaf Hows things mate? 09:07 tenplus1 not bad thanks, you ?? 09:07 tenplus1 Regrow 0.3 released 09:07 Megaf Pretty bad :) 09:08 Megaf well, college wise at least 09:08 Megaf Lifewise I'm quite alright 09:08 tenplus1 college taking it outta ya 09:10 tenplus1 you'll be glad when it's over :) 09:19 tenplus1 hi nerzhul 09:20 Megaf Dat latency (tiny) 09:20 tenplus1 :P 09:20 Megaf tenplus1: your hi and his join poped up at the same instant here 09:20 tenplus1 ehehe 09:20 nerzhul hi 09:21 Megaf test 09:21 Megaf 10:19:43.000 *** Mode #minetest-hub +o nerzhul by ChanServ 09:21 Megaf 10:19:46.000 hi nerzhul 09:21 Megaf actually there was 3 seconds delay, lol 09:21 tenplus1 :PPPPP 09:22 Megaf maybe Quassel Client just too a while to get messages from Quassel Core 09:22 Megaf colleges wifi is not amazingly fast 09:22 Megaf right now I have 14 ms ping only. 09:22 Megaf tho 09:22 Megaf from my client in Dublin to Core running in Paris 09:22 Megaf !server Megaf 09:22 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.17-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 13ms 09:22 Megaf Paris ^ 09:23 tenplus1 Mobs Redo API has better pathfinging now :) 09:24 Megaf Define better 09:25 tenplus1 has line of sight inoperation, better at finding paths 09:25 tenplus1 mobs get stuck less :D 09:27 tenplus1 Pova mod upated to use minetest.after rather than globalstep :) and Regrow mod now has global function for other mods to use 09:41 tenplus1 hi red 09:53 tenplus1 wb sfan 10:16 tenplus1 I take it the only fallback when using globalstep is using your own lua timer isntead of the minetest.after using the engine timer instead ??? 10:23 tenplus1 wait a sec, minetest.after uses it's own globalstep in lua... dammit!"!!!! 10:43 longerstaff13-m sfan5: meow 10:44 * sfan5 meows at longerstaff13-m 10:44 * longerstaff13-m purrs back 10:44 longerstaff13-m Lol 10:44 tenplus1 :P 10:49 longerstaff13-m Any British people in here? It's fine if you don't wanna say if you are, just wanna know if I am the only British here or not XD 10:55 rubenwardy o/ 10:55 rubenwardy where abouts? 10:55 tenplus1 hi ruben 10:55 * tenplus1 is Scottish 10:56 longerstaff13-m rubenwardy: middle of the UK, Halifax 10:58 longerstaff13-m Brb 11:02 rubenwardy Bristol, UK for me 11:04 longerstaff13-m Nice 11:04 Megaf Importand exam on Business Infomation Systems in some minutes here 11:04 Megaf Important* 11:04 Megaf gonna be fun 11:04 tenplus1 good luck dude 11:04 longerstaff13-m Good luck 11:05 Megaf longerstaff13-m: I ain't Brittish, tho I'm wearing a shirt with the UK flag right now and I live in Dublin, ROI. I think is close enough 11:05 tenplus1 lol 11:05 Megaf thanks for good luck folks 11:06 longerstaff13-m Lol 11:06 longerstaff13-m Yw 11:06 Megaf I mean, if you really wish I do well, I appreciate that 11:06 longerstaff13-m I wish 11:07 longerstaff13-m That you do* 11:07 Megaf I just wonder why I still so hyper active now, I had 5 ritalins already 11:07 Megaf since 8:30 11:07 tenplus1 erk... 11:07 Megaf I'm supposed to have 1 every 4 or 5 hours 11:08 longerstaff13-m O.o 11:08 Megaf maybe because coffee + monster + 85% cocoa chocolate 11:08 Megaf I feel awesome tho 11:08 longerstaff13-m I am currently sat in a church using its free wifi as I am running out of data XD 11:08 tenplus1 be careful dude 11:09 longerstaff13-m Monster is bad because of the tourine(?) 11:09 Megaf well, let me close IRC, brb later folks 11:09 longerstaff13-m Cya 11:09 Megaf starting 12:15, 12:09 no 11:09 Megaf now 11:09 tenplus1 laters 11:09 Megaf end 12:55 11:09 longerstaff13-m o/ 11:09 * Megaf leaves 11:09 longerstaff13-m 40 minutes 11:11 longerstaff13-m Brb 11:32 tenplus1 hi lisac 11:33 longerstaff13-m Back 11:33 tenplus1 wb 11:33 longerstaff13-m Ty 11:38 tenplus1 hi raven 11:42 Megaf Well, finished the axam at 12:36 11:42 Raven262 Hi ten 11:42 tenplus1 how'd it go ? 11:43 Megaf I think I will get at least 55% r 11:43 tenplus1 whats the passing grade ? 11:43 Megaf This exam is worth 15% of total marks 11:43 Megaf Overall I think I will do well enough to pass 11:44 tenplus1 kewl... 11:44 * tenplus1 is guessing 76% :D 11:44 tenplus1 lol 11:47 Megaf passing grade is 40% 11:47 Megaf (not as easy as it looks) 11:47 Megaf there's a reason is so low... 11:49 tenplus1 hi fixer 11:59 Fixer ni 11:59 Fixer hi 11:59 tenplus1 thought you were going monty python there :P 12:01 tenplus1 hi aerozoic 12:01 aerozoic wazup tenplus1! 12:02 tenplus1 just tinkering as always :D 12:02 tenplus1 you ? 12:02 aerozoic just wasting time managing a server XD 12:02 tenplus1 ehehe 12:03 aerozoic i'm glad you added sliced bread to farming 12:03 tenplus1 updated mobs api, has better pathfinding now... also regrow mod has it's own api 12:04 aerozoic i updated my mobs clone about 12 hours ago :) 12:04 tenplus1 ooh, link plz :P 12:05 tenplus1 oh wait, your local git clone... ahaha, thought you meant you forked it 12:05 tenplus1 this was updated a few hours ago 12:20 aerozoic yeah i had to do an urgent server update last night so i updated mobs and farming. 12:21 tenplus1 ahh you got the beetroot update :) nice 12:21 aerozoic yea :) 12:22 tenplus1 you using etherael by any chance ? 12:22 aerozoic nope 12:22 tenplus1 ehehe, was wondering if you'd like to test the 'regrow' mod... it regrows apples, oranges, bananas, coconuts on trees 12:22 aerozoic the only major mapgen mod i use is Caverealms 12:23 tenplus1 P 12:25 aerozoic I created my server to replace the old AMHI server so it needs to resemble AMHI somewhat. 12:26 tenplus1 ahh, kewl 12:28 aerozoic know any good daily reboot mods? 12:28 tenplus1 not something I've had to use sadly 12:29 tenplus1 We only run a reset script to re-run server and test for stalls 12:30 aerozoic I'd rather do a script but script writing is above my pay grade. 12:30 tenplus1 lol 12:31 shivajiva I've got one for you aerozoic :P 12:31 shivajiva Hiya tenplus :) 12:32 aerozoic oh? 12:32 tenplus1 hi shiva :PPP 12:32 aerozoic btw hi shivajiva 12:34 shivajiva https://www.zerobin.net/?0ebfec8ee91921df#qeF1B9H+xmX1pVXtpHPeGYqvDXrn9rJmr3s28GYd540= 12:35 shivajiva put it in an init.lua file under whatever you want to call it 12:36 IcyDiamond Hello guys! Anyone remember my face? 12:36 IcyDiamond :D 12:36 tenplus1 hi diamond 12:36 IcyDiamond I was away for a while :P 12:36 tenplus1 hi sniper 12:37 sniper338 ohayo tenplus1 12:38 ThomasMonroe thanks shiva! :D 12:38 tenplus1 hi thomas 12:38 ThomasMonroe I've been looking around for this :) 12:38 shivajiva happy to help :D 12:39 sniper338 shivajiva! ;D 12:39 shivajiva Hiya sniper :) 12:39 ThomasMonroe bw how ya doin'? 12:39 ThomasMonroe btw* 12:39 shivajiva be better without this abscess in my gum, otherwise fine thanks 12:40 tenplus1 erk 12:40 Mr_Pardison \o 12:40 tenplus1 hi mister 12:41 shivajiva immune system has kicked in and is dealing with it so I'm on the mend, just need to get the tooth extracted when it's settled 12:41 ThomasMonroe ouch, that's not fun 12:41 ThomasMonroe heya Mr_Pardison 12:42 Mr_Pardison Happy Star Wars day. 12:42 shivajiva don't worry I'm long in the tooth :') 12:43 ThomasMonroe lol 12:44 ThomasMonroe hmm could you make a new mod for it, or does it have to run inside of an existing one? 12:44 shivajiva I just created a folder called ts and dropped in in an init.lua file 12:44 ThomasMonroe yeah that's what I was gonna do :) 12:45 Mr_Pardison I always seem to join in the middle of a conversation... 12:45 Mr_Pardison Pardison me for interrupting. 12:46 shivajiva lol Hi Mr_P 12:46 aerozoic Is the period in "ts.duration" significant or can i change it to something without the period? 12:46 shivajiva the period is irrelevant 12:46 aerozoic thanks :) 12:47 shivajiva just nicely identifies what mod it belongs to 12:47 tenplus1 Xanadu has it's own mod 'xanadu' where we place any additions, overrides or special features like this :D 12:48 shivajiva use minetest.settings:get() though for 0.4.16 12:49 shivajiva it will work but sooner or later it will be deprecated 12:51 shivajiva I have a minetest-shiva mod for my 'additions' 12:51 ThomasMonroe okay it works :D 12:51 shivajiva ofc it works :P 12:51 ThomasMonroe ;P 12:52 shivajiva it's been running for years so I'd have caught any bugs by now =) 12:54 ThomasMonroe oh, btw how safe is sauth to use? 12:55 shivajiva sauth is pretty solid, I haven't had any issues with it 13:14 * tenplus1 wonders about snipers ISP 13:15 tenplus1 hi Krock 13:15 Krock hi tenplus1 13:15 Krock heyy sup? 13:15 tenplus1 o/ 13:16 Mr_Pardison the Krockodile lives 13:16 tenplus1 heh 13:16 Krock Pardon is Mr? 13:17 Krock time to abuse the "hand" slot in CTF as long it's possible >:) 13:19 tenplus1 hand slot ? 13:38 Mr_Pardison might be the hand that they bit off when a hooman tried to pet them. 13:40 * tenplus1 wears diamond gloves 13:42 Krock err yes. exactly what Mr_Pardison said. 13:47 tenplus1 wb aerozoic 13:48 aerozoic thx 13:49 longerstaff13-m Hi 13:50 tenplus1 o/ 13:50 longerstaff13-m o/ 13:50 Mr_Pardison \o/ 13:50 aerozoic oh tenplus1 i was wondering if you intend to add vegetable soup to farming? 13:50 longerstaff13-m Lol 13:50 tenplus1 if you do a texture and recipe I'll add /D 13:52 tenplus1 already got pea soup in there @ 13:52 tenplus1 D 13:52 aerozoic i can't do textures :P 13:53 ThomasMonroe heya longerstaff13-m :D 13:53 Mr_Pardison aerozoic: neither can I which is why I elected to farm out the work :) 13:53 longerstaff13-m Hry ThomasMonroe 13:53 longerstaff13-m Hey* 13:53 tenplus1 ehehe, I add items with crappy textures which eventually get replaced by players :D 13:53 aerozoic exactly, but if it will soon be in farming redo then i would rather just wait. 13:54 tenplus1 :P 13:57 tenplus1 back later... need to go shopping :D 13:59 longerstaff13-m A late bye o/ 14:02 ThomasMonroe lol 14:38 IcyDiamond while i was away i was coming up for ideas for a minetest game 14:40 IcyDiamond oh boy this is going to be really difficult 14:41 Mr-Pardison IcyDiamond: when are things not? 14:41 IcyDiamond indeed 14:42 IcyDiamond also i caught the cold 14:42 IcyDiamond fever and all that jazz 14:43 paramat longerstaff13-m i'm british too (england) 14:43 longerstaff13-m Nice man :D 15:01 IcyDiamond say I were to take a mod from minetest_game and put it in my own game, how do i credit it properly? 15:02 rubenwardy if it has a license, use that license 15:02 rubenwardy also look through the list of textures and extract any that apply to that mod 15:02 rubenwardy so for say doors, you'd look in the folder for a LICENSE.txt file or whatever 15:03 rubenwardy if there is none then it's LGPL2.1 15:03 rubenwardy + 15:03 rubenwardy LGPLv2.1+ 15:03 IcyDiamond okay 15:03 rubenwardy then look in the file in the root folder and extract any textures 15:03 rubenwardy really this should be summarised in each mod 15:03 rubenwardy PRs accepted ;) 15:03 IcyDiamond what do you mean by extract any textures 15:04 rubenwardy things like: 15:04 rubenwardy PilzAdam (WTFPL): default_wood.png 15:04 rubenwardy in the license file 15:04 IcyDiamond ah ok 15:14 Tenplus1 hi folks 15:14 Mr-Pardison wb 15:14 Tenplus1 :P thx 15:16 Krock wb Tenplus1 15:16 Tenplus1 thx Krock 15:21 Tenplus1 wb aerozoic 15:22 * aerozoic is havin a bad internet day 15:22 longerstaff13-m Heh 15:22 Tenplus1 same with sniper too 15:23 longerstaff13-m My sim card keeps losing signal 15:24 sniper338 Tenplus1: ¿Huh? Nah was testin startup scripts on ma machine! ;P 15:24 longerstaff13-m Lol 15:24 Tenplus1 ehehe 15:24 sniper338 :D 15:29 Tenplus1 wb lisac 15:36 rdococ Yayayayay 15:36 Tenplus1 hi rdococ :P 15:39 rdococ I can't wait for lexical gotos to be added to Lua (so you can go to a label from a closure, essentially allowing call/cc) 15:40 rdococ Lua has so many almost-continuations that it's maddening 15:40 Tenplus1 lol 15:44 Tenplus1 scarey 15:45 rdococ Scareyay™ 15:45 Tenplus1 lol 15:47 rdococ Call/cc would actually be very intuitive, and easy to implement, if Lua's gotos could jump out of closures 15:47 Tenplus1 do you have a use-case for goto ? 15:48 rdococ Lua already has gotos as of a recent version 15:48 rdococ I want them to be more flexible so that you can implement continuations with them in an intuitive manner 15:49 Tenplus1 heh 15:52 Tenplus1 +100 16:03 Mr-Pardison h for all they do). 16:09 Krock rubenwardy, does ctf use the "craft" list in any case? It seems to fully have switched to a custom craft method 16:11 paramat enough offtopic, thanks 16:11 rubenwardy no, it doesn't 16:11 Krock so setting that one to size 0 would be possible too :) 16:11 aerozoic May the 4th be with you! 16:12 Tenplus1 lol 16:12 rdococ Yay the Force say yay with you 16:15 Krock nice. Minetest crashes when setting the hand slot to size 0 :D 16:16 * Mr-Pardison groans 16:16 Tenplus1 lol, hi fixer 16:16 rubenwardy Krock: client or server? 16:16 Krock s/hand/craft/ 16:17 Krock rubenwardy, the server 16:18 rdococ wait, you mean the hand inventory? 16:18 rubenwardy I can patch the server if needed 16:18 Krock no, craft. I was mistaken 16:18 rdococ I'm confused as to how the hand inventory works 16:18 rubenwardy I already run 0.4.17-dev with some 0.5.0 features 16:18 Krock rubenwardy, patching the official repo yes. 16:18 rdococ rubenwardy: ooh, what 0.5.0 features are those? 16:19 rubenwardy minetest.register_can_bypass_userlimit and HP damage reasons 16:20 rdococ ah 16:21 Tenplus1 wb xerox 16:22 Tenplus1 thought you had a twin for a moment there xerox 16:22 Tenplus1 o.O triplets 16:22 Grandolf tumani xerox's :P 16:22 Tenplus1 eheheh 16:23 Grandolf is it possible to access a worldpath with a mod, and hows it done? 16:23 Tenplus1 minetest.get_worldpath() 16:24 Grandolf kk 16:24 Grandolf ty 16:26 Grandolf hm 16:27 Grandolf how about a diffrent worldpath? 16:27 Grandolf like can i access 2 worlds with one mod? 16:27 Tenplus1 you would have to specify that manually... 16:28 Grandolf i want to get in world x and y 16:29 Grandolf *worlds 16:29 Grandolf so how to i tell it to go to both? 16:29 Tenplus1 never tried using separate worlds before 16:30 Grandolf im trying to make a mod that will hopefully act like an ender chest, except it can transfer items between servers 16:30 Tenplus1 if minetest.get_worldpath() returns "/world1" then force var to use "/world2" I suppose 16:31 Mr-Pardison I see a slight problem with that. 16:31 rubenwardy mod security will stop you from accessing another world 16:32 Tenplus1 ahh, you would have to add mod to security settings or disable it 16:32 Mr-Pardison What if someone puts an item in the chest from a mod that is on one server but is not on the other server? It would show as an unknown node and/or item. 16:32 rubenwardy don't disable mod security 16:32 [ERROR]ID-10T That could be an issue 16:32 Mr-Pardison rubenwardy: just for the sake of argument, let's say security can be bypassed. 16:32 Grandolf what if you made a file in the worlds folder? 16:33 Tenplus1 what if you made an inbetween mod that runs on both worlds 16:33 [ERROR]ID-10T You are on to something there . . . 16:33 [ERROR]ID-10T You could make the mod run on both servers, and access the same file 16:33 [ERROR]ID-10T (I think) 16:33 Grandolf yea 16:33 Tenplus1 you write a file with say the line: "w1-chest-add-default:stone" and the mod only loads it for the respective w1 or w2 16:34 Tenplus1 it could poll for the file every 10 seconds and if found process command line within 16:35 [ERROR]ID-10T Only issue is that could be abused. 16:35 [ERROR]ID-10T If it was between, say, a survival server and a creative server 16:35 Tenplus1 the servers themselves would need to be running on the same machine for it to work 16:35 Tenplus1 using same mods 16:35 [ERROR]ID-10T that as well 16:36 [ERROR]ID-10T otherwise it would have to go to webpages 16:36 [ERROR]ID-10T And then heaven knows what could happen. 16:37 Grandolf its abusable, but server owners have to add the mod to every server they want it on 16:37 [ERROR]ID-10T True 16:37 [ERROR]ID-10T You could put a disclaimer on it 16:37 [ERROR]ID-10T "Not for use by n00bz" 16:37 Tenplus1 specific server use only for that feature between worlds 16:37 Mr-Pardison or Plebz. 16:38 Tenplus1 lol 16:38 BillyS Heh, yep 16:38 Grandolf a mod like this would allow server owners to redo their maps w/o players losing everything they own 16:38 BillyS In a wierd way, yes 16:38 Tenplus1 transfer chests across the easy way :D 16:38 Grandolf :P 16:39 Grandolf hm 16:39 Grandolf an issue would be if jimmy in server 1 puts a diamond in the chest, then goes to server 2 and realizes theres already a jimmy there, who can take his diamonds 16:41 Tenplus1 true, you gotta have same usernames setup each side 16:41 Grandolf could do passcodes... 16:41 Mr-Pardison pull list of player names from one and reserve those on the other one. 16:41 Grandolf prob 16:42 Tenplus1 yeah, passworded chests 16:42 Tenplus1 then player is the only one to be able to open and remove chest 16:43 Grandolf but then you get the players useing 123 as a passcode :P 16:44 Tenplus1 if they are that dumb then they deserver to lose items :@D 16:44 Grandolf or people who use their age as a passcode 16:44 Grandolf or birth date 16:44 Grandolf or name 16:44 Grandolf hm 16:47 Grandolf copying player files between servers seems like the best way 16:47 Tenplus1 yeah... 16:58 Tenplus1 laters o// 17:08 rdococ ITV news showing their pro-Conservative bias again 17:08 rdococ "blah blah blah, got tired of Labour failures 2 years ago" hm, I wonder which party was trying to form a minority government 2 years ago... hint: not Labour 17:09 rdococ at least UKIP collapsed, I guess that's a plus, I think 17:09 rdococ well, "collapsed", I think they're still technically a party 17:23 Fixer rdococ: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/090/178/9bd.png 17:35 Krock !tell Fixer But this statue/face looks better: https://wcerfgba.github.io/AESTHETIC.css/memes/roman-statue.png 17:35 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when Fixer is around 17:37 Krock rubenwardy, this is the most I can do at the moment: https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/pull/157/files see also: #7297 17:37 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7297 -- Fix builtin inventory list crash when size = 0 by SmallJoker 17:38 rubenwardy thanks 17:38 rubenwardy have you tested the CTF PR? 17:39 Krock I used that PR to fix the bug so yeah.. 17:39 Krock PR HEAD~1 ofc 17:41 Krock works with 0.5.0-dev and 0.4.17-dev 17:44 Krock well great, once I've attached it to gdb I find some other segfaults 17:54 IcyDiamond Could I somehow have lakes have a different water source from sea 17:54 IcyDiamond I want to implement thirst in that way 18:00 Krock rubenwardy, neither crafting without craftresult nor the missing hand slot causes problems. Feel free to test :) 18:01 Krock but it's mergeable already 18:02 Krock sweet. thanks :) 18:02 paramat differentiating lakes from sea is roughly impossible 18:02 paramat as it's all water at y = 1 18:03 Krock well IRL this would be a problem too if the lakes were salty 18:04 paramat but mgvalleys has river water above y = 1 that is considered fresh water 18:06 paramat or rather, detecting a pool of water surrounded on all sides would be very intensive code that would slow down mapgen 18:27 Shara IcyDiamond: Depends what you mean by lakes 18:29 Shara It's possible to easily get pools using a different liquid like this: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/7035183/38304715-3fa9f4ee-3802-11e8-81cb-94cad64ee012.png 18:29 Shara But getting them big enough/at the right frequency for what you want would be another issue 18:40 paramat yes those are pools added as decorations (cleverly too) 20:28 xerox123 hello 20:34 rubenwardy o/ 20:36 xerox123 any humans in here? https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/348vlx/what_bot_accounts_on_reddit_should_people_know/ 20:38 Krock WhoaItsAFactorial 20:39 Krock Every account on IRC is a bot except you. 20:56 MinetestBot Fixer: May-04 17:35 UTC But this statue/face looks better: https://wcerfgba.github.io/AESTHETIC.css/memes/roman-statue.png 22:38 Fixer Low-end people (c)