Time Nick Message 01:42 twoelk maybe Luigi512 has gotten offspring https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=127828#p127828 12:52 tenplus1 hi folks 12:56 rubenwardy hi 12:56 NathanS21 hi 12:57 tenplus1 hi ruben, hi nathan :D 12:58 Krock hi tenplus1 12:58 tenplus1 o/ krock :P 12:58 tenplus1 added 3 new settings to mob api that may prove useful 12:58 rubenwardy coursework I'm working on, water simulation running on 6 GPUs: https://i.rubenwardy.com/mbh1TMRqZu.mp4 12:58 rubenwardy err 12:58 rubenwardy *8 GPUs 12:59 tenplus1 ooh 13:00 Krock the true story behind that video: 100 individual graphs in LibreOffice calc 13:00 rubenwardy lol 13:00 tenplus1 ehehe 13:00 Krock added together with some tool to make a gif, then converted to an mp4 13:00 Krock it's devilish 13:01 rubenwardy the code dumps the state to a file every so often 13:01 tenplus1 would be nice if LO5 had an export to animgif feature 13:01 rubenwardy I then use a bash script to convert those state files to a png using GNUPlot 13:01 rubenwardy and then combine into a .mp4 with ffmpeg 13:03 Krock heh nice :) The title could however either be bold or larger. Loks like an axis 13:04 Krock or is it the name of the right scale? I don't see any description for that one 13:04 rubenwardy it's the name of the right scale 13:04 rubenwardy may be a title actually 13:04 rubenwardy yeah, it's the title in the .plt 13:06 Krock something's wrong if you have to look up the source file :P 13:06 Krock s/wrong/suboptimal/ 13:06 rubenwardy well, the right key is velocity 13:06 rubenwardy I was wondering if it's the render being weird (unlikely) 13:07 rubenwardy I didn't write the .plt, just the bash script 13:14 tenplus1 hi Jordach 13:29 Raven262 Hi ten 13:29 tenplus1 hey raven :) 13:29 tenplus1 hi mister 13:29 Mr-Pardison morning tenplus1 13:34 tenplus1 o/ 13:34 tenplus1 anyone got any sweet textures for mutton in mobs_animal ? 13:34 aerozoic hi tenplus1 13:34 tenplus1 hi aerozoic 13:35 Mr-Pardison what kind of mutton? 13:35 tenplus1 and rabbit meat / fur 13:35 tenplus1 was thinking of adding raw mutton, cooked mutton, raw rabbit, cooked rabbit, rabbit pelt 13:36 aerozoic That just triggered a thought, have you ever considered adding game animals like deer and elk? 13:37 tenplus1 kpgmobs has deer/elk 13:37 Mr-Pardison if we had those, I'd like to have a rifle to hunt them with. 13:37 aerozoic oh it's already done? XD 13:37 tenplus1 kpg did many of the animals :) we just never included them all 13:38 tenplus1 at present all animals drop the standard mobs:meat_raw, so would be nice to have specific meats now that cooking mods and more food mods area appearing 13:39 aerozoic Variety is always better :) 13:39 tenplus1 also grizzly's bbq mod is pretty good :) so would help with compativility 13:40 aerozoic Unless ur an indecisive person XD 13:41 tenplus1 will cehck deviantart for free textures 13:45 Mr-Pardison afk for a bit 13:45 tenplus1 lol 13:52 tenplus1 hit homas 13:52 tenplus1 *hi thomas 13:53 Mr-Pardison ten forgets his t's :P 13:53 tenplus1 :P 13:53 rubenwardy please don't hit people thnks 13:53 rubenwardy *thxs 13:53 ThomasMonroe hiya enplus1 13:53 tenplus1 :P 13:53 ThomasMonroe :P 13:54 tenplus1 Q. is freehand drawing a texture based on an already existing texture cheating ? copyright ? 13:54 rubenwardy yeah 13:55 tenplus1 damn 13:55 tenplus1 hi robbie 13:55 RobbieF hi tenplus1! 13:55 RobbieF how are you? 13:55 rubenwardy it's a grey area 13:55 rubenwardy IANAL 13:55 tenplus1 ok ta, attempting to draw textures 13:56 RobbieF I just walked in on this conversation, but am I to understand Apple is making sex toys now? 13:56 aerozoic hey tenplus1, i'm curious why the HUD feature of protectors is set for 5 second updates? 13:56 tenplus1 I drew a nice raw rabbit that is only similar to orig, but dunno 13:56 tenplus1 hi CWz 13:56 tenplus1 RobbieF: wut ????? 13:56 rubenwardy RobbieF, I Am Not A Lawyer :P 13:56 RobbieF I dunno, but rubenwardy mentioned something about iAnal 13:56 rubenwardy also, it would be iAnal 13:56 rubenwardy lol snap 13:57 RobbieF Yeah, you were yelling it 13:57 tenplus1 aerozoic: so it doesnt cause any lag and still updates at a reasonable rate :) 13:57 tenplus1 lololol 13:57 Mr-Pardison I'm just going to be keeping overwatch on some other channels now..... 13:57 RobbieF Ahh, I get it now. But FYI, from here forward you will be typing it iAnal. :D 13:58 CWz Hello 13:58 RobbieF hey CWz 14:02 aerozoic tenplus1, sorry if i'm bothering you, i not a coder so i'm gonna ask noob questions... I just don't understand the lag issue. I do know that areas mod updates it's HUD feature instantly, seemingly without lag. 14:03 ThomasMonroe heya RobbieF 14:03 aerozoic Idk if protector mod and areas mod uses the same method for updating the HUD. 14:04 tenplus1 hi evergreen 14:04 ThomasMonroe hiya EvergreenTree 14:05 tenplus1 it's ok aerozoic, basically if too many get_node's happen per player is can lag a server filled with players, so I gave it a 5 second delay so it wouldnt do that 14:05 tenplus1 hi sniper 14:06 tenplus1 areas mod doesnt need get_node cause it's all stored in a file and tables... it does it a different way, but if file/table is corrupt you lose ALL protection 14:06 aerozoic oh, that makes sense, thanks! 14:06 ThomasMonroe I updated the screenshot for #6965 14:06 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6965 -- [WIP] Basic pause menu settings by ThomasMonroe314 14:09 RobbieF Hi ThomasMonroe 14:10 ThomasMonroe how goes the development? 14:12 tenplus1 shoudl I add a recipe to convert rabbit hides into leather for crafting (2x2 rabbit = 1x leather) ?? 14:13 aerozoic tenplus1, that sounds good to me. 14:13 tenplus1 :P 14:14 ThomasMonroe aerozoic, how'd you like the screenshot? 14:14 aerozoic Wow, that looks great! 14:15 aerozoic That gives me an idea 14:15 ThomasMonroe now onto adding the Gamma/Brightness 14:15 aerozoic I've had to explain fast/fly/noclip to so many people on touch screens and they can never find it. 14:16 ThomasMonroe idk if the pause menu is the same on there, but I could add those 14:16 aerozoic idk if that's within the scope of your pause menu idea 14:16 Mr-Pardison perfect as I have had to do the same thing. 14:17 ThomasMonroe but idk if those are actual settings that I can adjust 14:17 aerozoic i sometimes think those other non-MT clients don't even have the buttons for it XD 14:17 ThomasMonroe I actually learned that pressing the F3 key doesn't actually turn off the fog 14:18 ThomasMonroe aerozoic, I wouldn't be surprised XD 14:18 jas_ yeah you can just leave anticheat on and deal with the issues, or turn it off and play, because anticheat is indeed strict. my case was modifying gravity/speed/jump combinations and triggering it that way. 14:18 ThomasMonroe ??? 14:18 jas_ enchanted chicken feather. 14:18 jas_ re: physics_override triggering anticheat. 14:19 jas_ (1500-1700 i believe) 14:19 ThomasMonroe what are you talking about jas_? 14:19 jas_ what are you talking about, ThomasMonroe? 14:20 jas_ i'm talking about physics override triggering anticheat, like i said, referring to timestamp 1500 to 1700 or so, from yesterday? scroll up a bit, man 14:20 jas_ i can link u a log line if it's that important 14:23 ThomasMonroe oh, sorry np 14:23 ThomasMonroe I was just wondering how that fit with what the current convo was XD 14:26 Wayward_One hi all :) 14:26 tenplus1 hi wayward 14:27 ThomasMonroe hi Wayward_One 14:29 tenplus1 Mobs_Animal updated - added raw/cooked mutton and rabbit, also rabbit hide, changed certain jump heights 14:31 tenplus1 excuse the crappy textures 14:34 CWz Wayward_One, have you played animel crossing. if so what is it about; is it about helping animels cross the street, a game like frogger, a game like pokemon snap, or game where you piss off animels which makes them crossed with you? 14:35 jas_ sorry. i should have been more clear, and nicer! http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-hub/2018-01-25#i_5210699 14:35 Wayward_One lol, i haven't, so idk xD 14:36 CWz wouldn't be suprised if it the first 14:37 CWz i mean the normals seemed to have enjoyed farmvil, and fappybird 14:37 CWz *flappy 14:37 aerozoic maybe it's like simcity but with animals, so.... simfarm? 14:37 tenplus1 lol fappy 14:38 CWz Tottaly wouldn't have guessed that 14:38 CWz hmm. *lightbulb moment* 14:44 CWz i checked it out 14:44 CWz i am double suprised 14:46 CWz I thought it would be game where you cross animals and create freaks 14:46 CWz eh missed opportunity on nintendos part 14:47 Wayward_One lol xD 14:49 CWz just stick to your fat plumber games, nintendo. 14:50 CWz at least that game has important life lessons 14:50 ThomasMonroe enable_3d_clouds has been added 14:50 ThomasMonroe YAY! 14:50 CWz wasn't that always in minetest 14:51 ThomasMonroe no to my WIP PR #6965 14:51 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6965 -- [WIP] Basic pause menu settings by ThomasMonroe314 15:05 rubenwardy <@rubenwardy> !cmd tempban Lajoie22 5D don't grief or trap players! 15:05 rubenwardy Failed to ban Lajoie22 15:05 rubenwardy *** Lajoie22 left the game 15:05 rubenwardy huh 15:06 rubenwardy lol shivajiva 15:06 Mr-Pardison hate those kind of players. 15:08 shivajiva rubenwardy: if you check the ban record did it ban or not? 15:08 rubenwardy they then rejoined 15:08 shivajiva so not 15:09 red-001 huh failed to ban 15:10 rubenwardy just grepping for log 15:11 rubenwardy also, up to date 15:22 IhrFussel sallee seems to have increased my map size as well now...by far less than Shara's but 20-30 MB in a day 15:23 IhrFussel I recommend all server owners to grep thei debug.txt for "sallee" and watch that account if it exists 15:23 IhrFussel their* 15:23 tenplus1 hi and thx fussel 15:23 Jordach >is running 0.5-dev on a hidden server 15:23 tenplus1 hi red 15:23 tenplus1 hi shiva :P 15:24 Jordach they can try 15:24 shivajiva Hiya tenplus 15:24 Jordach and as usual, solar plains is already ready 15:24 ThomasMonroe hey shiva 15:24 tenplus1 lol jordach 15:25 IhrFussel And hello^^ sallee is either a bot or some script kiddie that just wants to annoy server owners...on servers with anticheat disabled (for valid reasons) this can be critical 15:25 rubenwardy l33t haxor 15:26 IhrFussel Since they typed their password wrong once I lean more towards someone who starts a certain script after joining 15:27 red-001 Jordach, remember someone running a minetest server on a darknet before, just to prove they could 15:27 Jordach ^ 15:27 red-001 so you are not the first 15:28 red-001 I think it was more of a research sort of network then an anonymising one 15:29 IhrFussel I also find it weird that the player always stays at the exact same height and never goes up/down ... it's 24.5 15:30 Mr-Pardison very weird. 15:30 Mr-Pardison are they AFK? 15:31 IhrFussel My server kicks inactive players idling for 2+ hours and yes the player moved without pressing any keys it seems cause he got auto kicked 15:31 Mr-Pardison huh. 15:32 rubenwardy 2 hours is a long time 15:32 ThomasMonroe ^ 15:32 rubenwardy even for a building server 15:32 rubenwardy CTF is 1 minute, due to the limited slots 15:34 red-001 maybe it's a similar bot for saving server maps 15:36 IhrFussel I just checked...24.5 is the height of the spawn so the player just moves in some direction ignoring any kind of obstacles 15:36 red-001 IhrFussel, how was the player moving, if they were trying to scrap the map I would expect them to move in a spiral or something of that sort 15:36 tenplus1 hi benrob 15:36 rubenwardy omg 15:36 rubenwardy is map limit in map_meta? 15:36 red-001 decent chance 15:36 benrob0329 I'm gonna record todaaaaay! \o/ 15:36 rubenwardy ffs 15:36 rubenwardy red-001, found the issue 15:37 red-001 seems that want file something is in is mostly decided by rolling a dice 15:37 red-001 what* 15:37 benrob0329 Hi tenplus1 15:37 tenplus1 Mobs Redo updated to 1.41: runaway_from setting added to mob registry :) 15:37 rubenwardy I reused the old map meta which had the map limit in the world meta 15:37 rubenwardy which overrode the settings 15:37 * benrob0329 is going to do a cinematic of illuna today 15:38 rubenwardy fml 15:38 red-001 is there even any use for that file for a server without a presistent map? 15:38 rubenwardy not really, as the mapgen for old ctf was in settings anyway 15:38 tenplus1 nice one ben, look forward to seeing it 15:39 benrob0329 Can we move mapgen setting to world creation, rather than minetest.conf? 15:40 red-001 not like forward,backward? 15:41 Megaf_ HexChat for the win! 15:41 rubenwardy red-001, fixed aha 15:41 tenplus1 hi Megaf 15:41 Mr-Pardison Megaf_: totally. 15:41 Megaf_ I must be the most random person ever 15:41 tenplus1 o/ paramat 15:41 Mr-Pardison greetings, fellow hoomans. 15:41 Megaf_ tenplus1, ambiance mod is crashy 15:41 Megaf_ fix it 15:41 tenplus1 crashy ??? show me error plz 15:42 Megaf_ yep 15:42 IhrFussel Nope, just forward AFAIK ... I didn't watch them all the time though ... but that type of movement is very weird PLUS not triggering the "hey im active" function in globalstep() while moving is impossible unless keys are unused 15:42 Megaf_ tenplus1, man, it somewhere in the backlog 15:42 tenplus1 lol 15:42 Megaf_ lemme see if I can find it 15:43 ThomasMonroe Megaf_ I added enable_3d_clouds to the PR 15:43 Megaf_ interesting 15:43 Mr-Pardison IhrFussel: seems like a bot like thing if they are active but not triggering the active function in globalstep() 15:44 Megaf_ tenplus1, http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-hub/2018-01-24#i_5209958 15:45 Megaf_ tenplus1, I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at Minetest, as usual 15:45 benrob0329 Lol, Fireflies 15:45 benrob0329 Megaf_: its like most Linux distros 15:45 tenplus1 :P checking 15:45 IhrFussel Mr-Pardison, Everything about the player screams "bot" or "some script" at me... he plays on my server since Jan 21 and the only message he sent was /spawn a few times 15:45 Krock benrob0329, it's simple. Arch users <---> non-Arch users :P 15:46 ThomasMonroe Megaf_, I literally just added fast YAY! 15:46 Megaf_ hah 15:46 Megaf_ benrob0329, eh, what do you mean? 15:46 ThomasMonroe I gtg for now cyall laters 15:46 Megaf_ Debian works 15:46 Megaf_ cya ThomasMonroe 15:46 * Megaf_ has several years of Arch Linux 15:46 benrob0329 When you haphazardly gather a bunch of components and glue them together and then we're all supprised when something breaks 15:46 Megaf_ it's the third distro I most used 15:47 Megaf_ and no matter how good you think your mod or piece of software is, I will find a bug and break it 15:47 benrob0329 Arch is nice, gonna install it on my laptop eventually 15:48 benrob0329 I could do it in an hour most likely, its not hard 15:48 Megaf_ Don't bother 15:48 Megaf_ Arch had a meaning back in the 686 era 15:48 tenplus1 Megaf: it's fixed, git updated 15:48 benrob0329 Encryption is going to be interesting 15:48 Megaf_ now ClearLinux took it's place and the distro optmized for modern CPUs 15:48 Megaf_ sofar, ^ 15:48 Megaf_ They dropped support even fore Core2Duos 15:49 red-001 Krock, feels fear when running sudo pacman -Syu <---> feels fear when running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade 15:49 tenplus1 if clearlinux shares their optimizations am sure many other distros can follow suit 15:49 benrob0329 Hahaha, a distro only for intel 15:50 benrob0329 Thats some good memes as of late 15:50 rubenwardy well, that's slightly odd: https://i.rubenwardy.com/MS6oIMWdGf.png 15:50 Megaf_ tenplus1, I didnt see much optimization, it's more about dropping legacy stuff and improving the little things it has 15:50 Megaf_ they do the very opposite of Minetest 15:50 rubenwardy attached entities ending up at 0,0,0 15:50 tenplus1 well, 64-bit is the new standard now, I wonder how many ppl are still using 32-bit setups 15:50 Megaf_ Minetest bloats and bloats and bloats, and little to no time is put into fixing existing stuff and cleaning up 15:50 Krock rubenwardy, old news 15:50 Megaf_ ClearLinux gets slimmer and slimmer 15:51 Megaf_ and they optimize what they have the best they can 15:51 rubenwardy is there a work around for this? 15:51 rubenwardy other than making 0,0,0 not visible XD 15:51 * red-001 waits for people to complain about dropping support for their old clients 15:51 benrob0329 My setup gets slimmer and slimmer 15:51 rubenwardy lol 15:51 Megaf_  HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-rt-amd64 x86_64 ** Distro: Debian 8.10 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5450 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.9GiB, 78.4% free ** Disk: Total: 231.2GiB, 97.3% free ** VGA: 8086:2a02 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: 11ab:4353 ** Uptime: 17m 33s ** 15:51 Krock rubenwardy, detach & attach whenever someone joins 15:51 Krock attachment handling is a mess 15:51 benrob0329 I install fewer things every time I setup a desktop 15:52 Megaf_ 600 MB used here. With two Chromium opened 15:52 benrob0329 Not even a file manager anymore 15:52 Megaf_ yet, if I open Minetest and login to my server my laptop WILL CRASH 15:52 tenplus1 eek! that aint good 15:53 Megaf_ partly because a Minetest client needs at least 3 GB of RAM to log in to my server and partialy because there's a bug on Linux causing IO trashing, even before touching swap 15:53 Megaf_ !server Megaf 15:53 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server V4.17 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/10, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 10ms 15:53 tenplus1 763mb here with lubuntu(lxde), chromium playing youtube, pidgin and surfing toons :D 15:53 Megaf_ log in at your own risk 15:54 Megaf_ tenplus1, I'm using Mate :) 15:54 benrob0329 I'll have to go look once I boot my desktop 15:54 Megaf_ oh, and my tmp and .cache folders are ram disks 15:54 benrob0329 i3 and Pale Moon 15:54 tenplus1 mate is good but tends to slow games down 15:55 rubenwardy Krock, on_leavplayer removes the entity 15:55 rubenwardy is that not enough? 15:55 rubenwardy hmmm, maybe there's duplicates 15:57 Krock rubenwardy, oh, I thought that were red-001's entities.. but he left before taking the screenie 15:58 Krock perhaps these are yours. try changing the wielded item :3 15:58 Krock ...or hurt yourself 15:58 rubenwardy it definitely says red-001 15:58 rubenwardy for the player tag 15:59 rubenwardy yet the player tag should be removed when leaveplayer 15:59 rubenwardy so just added some code to delete if duplicates, and log an error 16:00 red-001 Fuchs, huh what does the new cloak mean? 16:00 Megaf_ Oh boi, dat A-10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZvkhtfnAxs 16:00 Megaf_ !title 16:00 MinetestBot Megaf_: TOP 8 RC JETS LOWPASS AND FAST OVERFLIGHTS RECORD BY RCHELIJET - YouTube 16:00 Fuchs red-001: ex-staff, it means I resigned 16:00 red-001 ah 16:00 rubenwardy oh wow 16:00 rubenwardy does that mean you won't be at #live this year? :'( 16:01 Fuchs rubenwardy: I'm rather positive I will be 16:01 red-001 just not as staff? 16:01 Fuchs at least I already marked it as holidays (+1 week, to go to wales or Scotland or whatever) at work 16:01 Fuchs red-001: I might still help out, I might even be staff again by then, who knows. 16:02 rubenwardy ah that's good to hear 16:02 red-001 ^ 16:03 Megaf_ Fuchs, I know you from somewhere, no idea where tho 16:03 Fuchs Megaf_: in here would be my best guess, or we were in contact for something related freenode 16:03 rubenwardy ah, now that's interesting 16:04 red-001 Megaf_, this channel? 16:04 Fuchs I could grep logs, but I'm about to head for a shower and do laundry 16:04 rubenwardy two players, rubenwardy and bob 16:04 rubenwardy rubenwardy can't see anything at 0,0,0, and can see bob's guage and tag 16:04 Megaf_ I have no idea, I think I saw him several years ago 16:04 rubenwardy bob can see rubenwardy's entities at 0,0,0 but can't see any on rubenwardy 16:04 Megaf_ must be freenode related 16:04 Krock this means bob joined after rubenwardy 16:04 red-001 poor bob, only thing left of him is this tag 16:04 rubenwardy actually, the exception is playertags are in the right place 16:05 rubenwardy yeah, bob joined after 16:05 rubenwardy might just make it so 0,0,0 is never seen 16:05 rubenwardy ie: in ignore 16:05 Megaf_ I hate when I run commands in my dedicated when I meant to run them on my laptop 16:05 rubenwardy doesn't fix disappearing guages though 16:06 rubenwardy ah! 16:06 rubenwardy player tag must work because it reattaches the tag every 10 seconds 16:06 rubenwardy are attachments sent when players join the world? 16:07 rubenwardy side note, is attached player damaging been merged yet 16:07 * rubenwardy looks 16:09 tenplus1 that's an important one 16:10 rubenwardy also adds callbacks 16:10 tenplus1 hi cx384 16:10 cx384 hello tenplus1 16:13 rubenwardy ha 16:16 Krock rubenwardy, yes they're sent but somehow broken 16:16 shivajiva Hey Thomas 16:16 Krock perhaps handled too early? no idea 16:16 paramat Megaf actually you should be mad at tenplus not MT because your crash is a mod error =) 16:16 paramat and lots of effort is put into bugfixes and cleaning up, we're drowning under refactor PRs 16:18 rubenwardy in terms of maintenance, there's bug fixes and refactors 16:18 cx384 Does anyone know when minetest 0.5 will be released? 16:18 rubenwardy bug fixes fix bugs 16:18 rubenwardy XD 16:19 rubenwardy refactors make the code simpler and easier to maintain, but introduce bugs 16:19 rubenwardy cx384, may/june 16:19 IhrFussel "head-admin", "half-moderator", "supporter", "vip" ... who needs all these ranks? 16:19 rubenwardy lol 16:20 IhrFussel That's in addition to admins, moderators and helpers 16:20 Krock IhrFussel, you forgot "supporting moderator" and "co-admin" and "vice supporter" 16:20 * tenplus1 is confuzzled 16:21 IhrFussel Where is the CEO, COO etc? 16:21 Krock tenplus1, here a non-relevant smoking ticket for the airplane: https://i.imgur.com/lz3P8qv.mp4 16:21 rubenwardy Krock: https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/pull/83/commits/82330ba0e994e8d0fcc69bcbc93f2b439388a929 16:21 rubenwardy !title 16:21 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Add multimap support by rubenwardy · Pull Request #83 · rubenwardy/capturetheflag · GitHub 16:21 cx384 hm ok it takes a really long time 16:21 rubenwardy ew 16:21 Mr-Pardison rubenwardy: I havethat movie on DVD at home. 16:21 Mr-Pardison *have that 16:21 rubenwardy what? 16:22 Krock rubenwardy, forgot to add a file? that doesn't look like an entity fix 16:22 rubenwardy XD 16:22 rubenwardy it makes it so 0,0,0 is never seen 16:22 rubenwardy it's not actually a fix aha 16:23 Mr-Pardison lol wrong person 16:23 rubenwardy brb, renaming commit to "Hide entity issue 16:23 Mr-Pardison Krock: I have that movie on DVD at home. 16:23 IhrFussel You just know that server x is run by a kid when the rules state "no stealing server" 16:24 Mr-Pardison that's sad. 16:24 Krock Mr-Pardison, found on imgur while browsing. no idea what movie it is actually 16:24 rubenwardy yup 16:24 Krock rubenwardy, eww. little dirty workarounds 16:24 Mr-Pardison the movie is called Airplane! 16:24 Krock ok 16:25 rubenwardy XD 16:25 rubenwardy it's fiiinnnnneee 16:25 rubenwardy this has been a bug ever since I added guages and 3d wield items 16:26 tenplus1 lol Krock 16:27 rubenwardy I'll fix it later 16:32 paramat Megaf the memory use due to joining your server is probably from mods, you do have hundreds and lots of intensive and unoptimised ones: mesecons, darkage, homedecor, plantlife, moretrees etc. so it's your fault =) 16:36 benrob0329 paramat: I dont think he said it wasn't, its pretty obvious that a lot of mods == a lot of ram 16:37 tenplus1 wb Dargod 16:39 paramat it's implied from context and Megaf has blamed MT for that before 16:39 paramat looking at the list of mods i'm suprised the server works at all, even moretrees alone is enough to ruin a server 16:40 Megaf_ looking at the list of mods i'm suprised the server works at all 16:40 Megaf_ lol 16:40 Megaf_ And I added lots of mobs too 16:40 Megaf_ still working very well 16:41 Megaf_ paramat, I think one of the things that causes big RAM usage are actually the textures 16:41 paramat it's the usual problem: a server owner adds 200 mods, many excessively intensive on their own, then wonders why they have problems, then blames MT and the devs 16:42 benrob0329 I try to keep my server as minimal as possible while still having what we (my friends and i) need to build 16:42 Megaf_ paramat, I don't blame for that, I don't like the word blame. I'm not saying I don't understand the dev side. I'm saying, my point is. MT still getting more features, not saying this is bad, yet, little time is going on removing legacy and old stuff. It's just an observation. 16:43 benrob0329 Oh and also turtles, because why not 16:43 paramat yes textures 16:43 Megaf_ benrob0329, I used to try to keep it as minimal as possible. Then I noticed it changes almost nothing. It more of a matter of configuration and compilation optimzations 16:43 Megaf_ I think now my server is running in one of the weakest hardwares it has ever ran 16:44 Megaf_ still working fine, apart from reading the world and mapgen, problem I always had... 16:44 benrob0329 Flying carts :^) 16:45 paramat Megaf you have blamed MT for everything, it's a habit you have =) 16:46 Megaf_ I can't deny 16:46 Megaf_ paramat, oh, by the way, hold on. I need help with an actual bug 16:46 paramat any server with moretrees i don't consider to be 'working very well', unfortunately almost everyone adds it :} 16:48 paramat anyway. ok we can help 16:48 Megaf_ I modified moretrees a bit so it runs better 16:49 Megaf_ paramat, #2408 16:49 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2408 -- Server's clock seems to change acording to dedicated_server_step 16:50 Megaf_ my server time speed is set to 1, that should be 24 hours 16:50 Megaf_ but the in game clock never matches the real world clock 16:50 Megaf_ I have no idea why or how the time is kept/counted 16:51 paramat no idea 16:52 Megaf_ and is #4564 ever going to be looked at: 16:52 Megaf_ ? 16:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4564 -- [Request] Make client timeout if RTT < 0. 16:52 Megaf_ This is a simple fix for every day issues... 16:52 tenplus1 +1 16:54 Megaf_ rubenwardy, made a good suggestion there that is valid too. To just inform the client server haven't replied in x seconds. 16:55 tenplus1 wb evergreen 16:56 Megaf_ red-001, you mem use will grow much more as you explore the map... 1.3 GB is just after hte login 16:58 Mr-Pardison just a thing that I wanted to put out there: what do y'all think of making hydras tamable animals? 17:04 tenplus1 ooh, then someone can pick them up and drop inside another players house... eek 17:12 paramat Megaf_ the funny thing is, i make a big effort to resist unnecessary fancy features and code bloat, but this actually makes me unpopular because i have to say no so much =) 17:13 Mr-Pardison fight the machine! join the resistance! 17:16 paramat dev fact of life: the more active you are the more unpopular you become 17:16 tenplus1 o.O 17:17 sofar you're not poettering just yet paramat :P 17:17 tenplus1 o/ so 17:17 tenplus1 *sofar :P 17:19 rubenwardy right, bugs fixed (?) 17:19 rubenwardy come to ctf.rubenwardy.com:30001 for some fun new CTF gameplay 17:20 Sokomine paramat: i'm glad for all the work the devs do. so thank you for all you did and will do in the future 17:20 rubenwardy xerox123 ^ 17:21 Sokomine paramat: mtg also became a very nice game. when i flew above generated landscape recently i enjoyed what became of it. other dirt below jungletrees, fallen tree logs, decorative mushrooms, very nice bushes, very nice new biomes (that one with the acacia trees, snow biomes, ...) 17:22 tenplus1 if random tree schems for each type get included that'll be awesome too sokomine :P 17:23 Sokomine the trouble with creating something is that there's always so much more that can be done and that comes to mind and so little time to do it all 17:24 rubenwardy sfan5, code 410 17:24 rubenwardy guess I need whitelisting? 17:25 Sokomine Mr-Pardison: [off] cobble *can* be acceptable for paths. one of the very few uses of it. even gravel may look good there 17:25 sofar rubenwardy: probably, 2 hosts on the same IP 17:25 tenplus1 cobble/stone/stonebrick can make good buildings if done right 17:26 Mr-Pardison Sokomine: this was not a build. it was s simple pathway the intruded upon the airspace around the town on DL. 17:27 Sokomine tenplus1: make leather available through killing hostile mobs. not friendly rabbits who have done nothing apart from sitting around 17:28 tenplus1 lol, 4x rabbit pelts = 1x leather: P 17:29 paramat sweet 17:29 Mr-Pardison pointless unless you breed them and let them propagate enough for you to gather enough. 17:29 Mr-Pardison given the number required for just 1 leather. 17:30 tenplus1 wild rabbits will run away from player now (also hogs) 17:30 Mr-Pardison then I'll just have to chase after them. 17:30 paramat back later 17:33 Sokomine benrob0329: if you do visit illuna - feel free to visit my hotel and mini-settlement as well :-) even if it's not really finished 17:33 tenplus1 IhrFussel: what was the nick to look out for on server btw ??? 17:35 IhrFussel sallee 17:35 IhrFussel Not sure if there are more of those but that's the only one I caught doing that 17:36 tenplus1 *phew* not on Xanadu thankfully 17:36 rubenwardy sofar, yeah 17:36 tenplus1 wb Darcidride 17:38 Megaf_ ok, changed settings in my server, minetest client seems stable at 1.2 GB of RAM used 17:39 Megaf_ been mining for a while 17:39 tenplus1 hi sfan 17:39 sfan5 hello 17:39 Megaf_ and server using around 400 MB of RAM 17:42 Sokomine paramat: oh :-( moretrees are fine :-) i love those tree giants. sadly, they're expensive when generating and when looking at, so there can't be too many of those big trees around. still...a moretrees tree here and there is very nice :-) 17:45 Sokomine tenplus1: cobble very very rarely will make up a good house. the texture is not so nice. stone and in particular stonebrick are diffrent. my first house on redcrabs server was a stonebrick house 17:46 tenplus1 my first house was dirt :) I built into a hillside... was cute 17:47 Mr-Pardison tenplus1: wise move. build in and you had access to resources literally right outside your house. 17:47 Sokomine building a good house with dirt is even more tricky. i saw one successful application and used it for a gingerbread house once. but in general dirt is not...suitable. not all textures look good for houses 17:48 tenplus1 yup, and some junglegrass hid the entrance so no-one would spot me :D 17:48 tenplus1 loved my wee dirt house 17:48 Sokomine those are not homes but storage areas you're talking about. yes, dig a hole in a hill, store some chests, furnace etc. in there - landscape can remain intact and ressources gathered 17:50 red-001 Megaf_, grew to 1.4 by the time I killed the process 17:51 tenplus1 am thinking of changing chests so that once dug it drops all items inside 17:51 red-001 does anyone know if the new translation system can be used for chat and formspecs?? 17:52 red-001 s/??/? 17:53 Sokomine tenplus1: hmm. that sounds rather annoying 17:54 tenplus1 would help admin when removing player chests etc 17:55 sofar just TNT them 17:55 tenplus1 lol true, although things like shops etc. I want to drop all items inside to save me removing them 17:55 IhrFussel The gray screen bug is only server-side? Or can old clients still be affected even if the server code was fixed? 17:57 sfan5 you mean the 0,0,0 bug? 17:58 tenplus1 *shudder* 17:59 IhrFussel Not sure if it's the 0,0,0 one...some player complain about sometimes being stuck in a gray screen and only rejoining fixes it 17:59 Mr-Pardison speaking of that. 17:59 Mr-Pardison am having that problem right now. 18:00 IhrFussel I didn't have that bug for many months now on PC so maybe it's about the client/app they use? 18:04 Megaf_ red-001, 1.250 GB stable here 18:04 Megaf_ my server is actually quite friendly to old computer once away from spawn 18:04 Megaf_ and once all textures are loaded 18:11 Thomas-S Is there a reason why I'm not allowed to view the forum topic of the currency mod? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7002 18:12 tenplus1 ? weird 18:12 cx384 if anyone is bored can he or she take a look on my new mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19524 and tell me whether it is useful or what I should change. 18:13 tenplus1 nice n simple :) I ilke it 18:14 cx384 thank you <3 18:16 Sokomine tenplus1: add admin tool for that. don't want all that rubbish lying around when removing chests 18:17 tenplus1 I do use admin stick for that 18:20 IhrFussel "when do i get the grant priv" uhh....not even my moderators have that priv lol 18:22 aerozoic I don't give privs priv because there's no way to manage privs. I'm surprised there isn't a privs management mod out there. 18:22 tenplus1 lol, only shinji and I hold that priv on xanadu, gotta be thankful for what ya have 18:28 Megaf_ was this fixed already or this bug still there? 18:28 Megaf_ !title http://paste.debian.net/plain/1007375 18:28 MinetestBot No title found. 18:29 Megaf_ 2018-01-26 18:27:06: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: Runtime error from mod 'moretrees' in callback node_on_timer(): ...erver/BinMegafServer/bin/../mods/moretrees/date_palm.lua:235: find_nodes_in_area(): area volume exceeds allowed value of 551368 18:29 tenplus1 damn, that's a LOT of nodes 18:38 Sokomine moretrees and other plants are very demanding regarding their environment. a lot of the time it takes in mapgen is spent searching for the right conditions (light, water sources, ...) 18:40 tenplus1 yeah, it's quite a heavy albeit beautiful mod 18:42 Megaf_ Time to make some coffee 18:43 tenplus1 we could see what moretrees does that is so intensive and break it down to see if it is possible to have a new feature that would handle it better 18:43 _Megaf problem is just the date palm 18:44 tenplus1 do they really have to grow ? have the sapling grow a tree with dates and chop it down, re-grow for more dates... 18:45 tenplus1 personally I'd remove that feature 18:45 _Megaf date palms keep getting larger 18:45 _Megaf so every step of the grow includes calculations I think 18:45 Sokomine tenplus1: i've taken a look at the spawning some time ago. there really are so many conditions regarding when to place which plant that i wasn't able to find anything more efficient. vanessae has spread the spawning functions over several steps so that mapgen reacts faster now 18:45 tenplus1 yeah globalstep really helps it a lot 18:46 Sokomine oh? do they really grow now? intresting. never observed that. i thought growing trees was a diffrent mod (by sapier?). those special growing trees kept chaning all the time 18:49 Shara Hi all 18:49 _Megaf Hi Shara 18:49 tenplus1 hey Shara 18:50 Raven262 Hi Shara 18:50 Mr-Pardison hi 18:50 _Megaf Sokomine, yep, they get taller and taller 18:50 tenplus1 those tree's are massive enough, do they really have to grow ?!?!?! 18:50 tenplus1 realism is great, but if it affects performance in a huge way to make it happen... hrm 18:51 _Megaf how can I increase the area volume thing? 18:52 tenplus1 split the checks into quadrants 18:52 tenplus1 hi ssieb 18:55 IhrFussel tenplus1, apparently the player meant "priv to grant another player in his protection" 18:56 tenplus1 ohh, dont they have that already if they own the area ? 18:57 IhrFussel I guess their English is not that good... yes players can just add any other without any particular priv 18:57 tenplus1 :P 18:58 IhrFussel Such misunderstandings can cause bans xP 18:59 tenplus1 I had a player the other week sign on for the first time and demand 'fly' and 50 diamonds, lol... that got banned :P 18:59 Shara RC map may well be fixed... though I doubt it goes live again until tomorrow or sunday at the soonest 19:00 tenplus1 did you get the size down shara ? 19:01 _Megaf I'm glad in hearing that Shara 19:01 Shara It's currently sitting at around 16GB 19:02 Shara Problem is finding the best way for the person who has been working on it to get it back to the server 19:02 Shara SLow upload, so it might take quite some time 19:03 * IhrFussel is now a bit paranoid and checks "du map.sqlite" every few hours 19:03 Sokomine last time i played with them moretrees did not grow. i'm surprised to hear that they appear to do so now? 19:04 Sokomine Shara: that's good news! 19:05 * Mr-Pardison hands Shara a big warm mug of tea 19:05 tenplus1 :P 19:05 Shara Thanks Mr P. Was just thinking of making some 19:07 * Sokomine secretly abuses IhrFussels map to store some of her maps local maps that sum up in taking disk space :-) 19:07 Mr-Pardison ! 19:09 benrob0329 Minetest, OBS, and Pale Moon open and its only using 526m of ram 19:09 benrob0329 My setup is ridiculously lightweight 19:10 Sokomine ah. good. free ram. i'm sure we can find a use for that as well :) 19:10 IhrFussel "sudo ufw deny from Sokomine to any" 19:15 _Megaf Anyone wants Amnesia Collection (Dark Descent and something pigs) for free? 19:15 _Megaf " Amnesia Collection includes the following products: Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs Amnesia: The Dark Descent " 19:16 _Megaf It's for Linux, Mac, Steam, Playstation and Windows 19:16 tenplus1 did you get a spare copy with humble bundle ? 19:16 _Megaf Maybe no playstation 19:16 _Megaf tenplus1, they are giving for everybody for free 19:16 _Megaf https://www.humblebundle.com/store/amnesia-collection 19:16 _Megaf 22 hours left of free game 19:17 tenplus1 wow, must be a new one coming out shortly :P 19:18 _Megaf Heh, maybe 19:18 Calinou Amnesia is notable for supporting Linux before Steam was available on Linux, in 2011 19:18 _Megaf Quite a nice discount of 30+ EUR is the actually real price 19:18 _Megaf Calinou, correct 19:19 Mr-Pardison have to go now. 19:19 Mr-Pardison will brb 19:19 _Megaf cya Mr-Pardison 19:19 _Megaf red-001, I'm in two channel now :) 19:19 _Megaf two on Freenode and two on OFCT xP 19:20 tenplus1 lol, turns out I already have them both :) ahahaha 19:20 _Megaf tenplus1, hahahahah 19:20 tenplus1 they tend to include them in humble bundles to pad it out 19:20 * Calinou claimed it, even though he'll probably never play them 19:20 Calinou I'm not much into horror games 19:20 Calinou (to not say "not at all") 19:20 _Megaf I will play I think, if I upgrade the CPU of this laptop 19:21 tenplus1 what spec ? 19:21 _Megaf AFAIK I can replace this 1,6 GHz Core2Duo to a 2,5 GHz Core2Duo with more cache, more FSB and same TDP 19:21 _Megaf it was the highest spec for this line 19:21 tenplus1 not too bad 19:22 _Megaf However, the socket does support a Core2Quad with even higher clock. Tho I don't know if the motherboard/BIOS will support 19:25 _Megaf I could add a Core 2 Extreme QX9300, 4 cores at 2,53GHz 19:25 _Megaf that would be a very nice upgrade 19:25 _Megaf It's only 10 Watts TDP above the current CPU 19:27 _Megaf If it wasnt so expensive I would try the quad core version http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Original-Intel-Core-2-Extreme-QX9300-2-53-GHz-AW80581ZH061003-Processor-CPU/282051283432?hash=item41ab9109e8:g:gS0AAOSwepZXSQgH 19:28 tenplus1 not bad, so long as it works :) what gpu you got ? 19:28 _Megaf tenplus1, what you'd take, 4 cores at 2,53 GHz or 2 cores at 3,07 GHz? 19:29 _Megaf the GPU is... well.. old intel integrated GPU 19:29 tenplus1 depending on the game 4 cores would give better results 19:30 Shara Estimated 24 hours until (hopefully) fixed map is back on the server! 19:30 shivajiva excellent news! 19:30 tenplus1 w00t! 19:30 _Megaf Shara, was vacuum ran on the map? 19:30 Shara Don't think he bothered. (no one seems to think it's really worth it) 19:30 _Megaf that *could* decrease the size 19:31 _Megaf tenplus1, I kinda like having 4 cores because compiling and stuff and multi tasking 19:31 _Megaf tenplus1, tho Minetest likes high clock 19:31 tenplus1 the decision has been made :PPP 19:31 Shara Been a long time since my server had so much free space 19:32 _Megaf I only play two games, Minetest and Flightgear, both are terrible at handling multithread 19:32 tenplus1 if it's 1.6 just now then 2.53 will surely give you a speed boost :) 19:32 tenplus1 and quad will help with Os running alongside 19:33 _Megaf https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Intel-Core-2-Duo-Mobile-T9900-SLGEE-3-06-GHz-6MB-1066MHz-Processor-Dual-Core-CPU/141868021390?hash=item2107fe368e:g:8HQAAOSwGotWiXO3 19:33 _Megaf http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Original-Intel-Core-2-Extreme-QX9300-2-53-GHz-AW80581ZH061003-Processor-CPU/282051283432?hash=item41ab9109e8:g:gS0AAOSwepZXSQgH 19:33 _Megaf These are my options 19:34 IhrFussel Modern CPUs have more power at lower clocks right? That explains why a 2016 Xeon *core* with 2.5 Ghz wins against an AMD Opteron 2.6 Ghz core 19:34 _Megaf They are more efficient at some tasks yes 19:34 _Megaf Opteron still king in some tasks 19:35 _Megaf lets say that Opterons can run lots of things at the same time 19:35 _Megaf you just keep throwing things at them and they will not hang 19:35 _Megaf other CPUs would die 19:35 _Megaf Opteron will still keep going, slowly but no stop 19:35 tenplus1 wow, 3ghz option has a huge cache :P 19:35 IhrFussel max_lag on my old Opteron: 1.5 ... max_lag on this lower clocked Xeon: 0.5 19:36 IhrFussel Same world, same mods, same settings 19:36 _Megaf IhrFussel, now, if you run several servers there, Opteron my perform faster 19:36 _Megaf tenplus1, the quad core has 12 MB L3 19:36 _Megaf and 12 L2 too 19:37 tenplus1 personally I'd go for quad 19:37 _Megaf me too 19:37 _Megaf tho I have no idea if it would work 19:37 tenplus1 the problem with buying from ebay 19:37 tenplus1 dont you have buyer protection ? 19:38 _Megaf no, I dont know if it works because I dont know if this laptop would support it 19:38 _Megaf Mr-Pardison, welcome back 19:38 tenplus1 gotta research into mobo 19:39 Mr-Pardison ty _Megaf 19:39 tenplus1 could buy an Asus Tinkerboard for the same money with better gfx :D 19:40 Raven262 Another soul for my collection! 19:40 Raven262 Oh wait, I mean a game for my collection. 19:40 Raven262 Eh 19:40 Raven262 Thanks, _Megaf. 19:41 _Megaf :D 19:41 _Megaf tenplus1, hah, but it doesnt have screen, nor battery, nor keyboard, nor dvd burner, nor hard disk 19:41 tenplus1 ehehe 19:45 _Megaf that's the lappy. http://paste.debian.net/plain/1007389 19:46 tenplus1 not bad 19:46 _Megaf meh, it's old 19:47 _Megaf tho I find it quite good looking, and the keyboard is amazing 19:47 _Megaf long travel 19:47 tenplus1 :) 19:48 _Megaf and has all port you want, firewire, usb, pcmcia, sdcard, expansions, modem, network, vga, infrared, fingerprint reader, and so on 19:48 tenplus1 I had an old Compaq m2000 (1.6ghz single core, 1gb mem, 40gb hdd, intel 915 gfx) 19:48 _Megaf it has even s-video... 19:48 tenplus1 had to retire it when internal wifi died :( 19:49 tenplus1 is good to have a favourite pc :P 19:50 _Megaf This laptop is basically a 2008 MacBook Pro from HP 19:51 Jordach IhrFussel: Minetest loves Instructions Per Clock 19:51 Jordach minetest by design is cpu bound 19:51 Krock also using a laptop from 2008 here (dual-core pentium somewhat).. but not as main computer. Works still good enough to run Minetest and LibreOffice 19:51 Jordach it's why i get a fuck off 450fps 19:52 tenplus1 sweet, I get 60fps if I'm lucky :P 19:53 Mr-Pardison on my older lappy, I can get an average of 35 fps w/out shaders 19:53 Mr-Pardison with shaders, it's 10-12 fps 19:53 Jordach my view range is above 300 19:53 Jordach usually about 360 19:54 Jordach and still pushing above 100fps 19:54 Jordach obviously i have performance loss from meltdown 19:55 Jordach thanks ~~s o f a r~~ Intel 19:55 _Megaf hah 19:55 Jordach >tfw there's a crypto mining boom and you have an RX 480 19:55 Jordach >tfw you've got no income 20:02 Krock >tfw everybody on earth has the same problem 20:02 _Megaf tenplus1, you dont want to see a big date tree do you? Im about to chop down the offending date tree 20:02 tenplus1 lol 20:03 _Megaf and no idea whats >tfw is supposed to mean 20:03 Krock "the face when" 20:03 * tenplus1 hands you a super axe 20:03 * Krock gives _Megaf a chainsaw 20:03 * tenplus1 gives you world killing asteroid 20:04 Krock "Thanks For Watching 20:04 Krock Internet » Chat" sauce: https://www.abbreviations.com/TFW 20:05 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13157&p=309834#p309834 20:05 rubenwardy multiple maps released! 20:05 Krock aagh... red-001! I thought we fixed a bug.. another appeared 20:06 rubenwardy thanks red-001 for helping 20:06 tenplus1 what bug ? 20:07 Krock builtin HUDs don't update anymore 20:07 tenplus1 o.O it got worse 20:11 _Megaf well, I've just done a /clearobjects instead of a //clearobjects 20:12 _Megaf RIP server 20:12 _Megaf !server Megaf 20:12 MinetestBot _Megaf: Megaf Server V4.17 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/8, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 10ms 20:12 _Megaf that must be a cached response... 20:14 Krock fix seems easy. just two new table lookups and that stuff is fixed 20:17 IhrFussel Megaf, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6918 20:18 tenplus1 +1 20:18 _Megaf Oh boy 20:18 tenplus1 quick isnt so bad, but having to wait through a whole map is painful 20:18 _Megaf so much win if that gets merged 20:18 _Megaf I like the please idea too 20:18 IhrFussel tenplus1, quick will also delete all objects from DB just not right away but once every mapblock got loaded 1 time 20:19 _Megaf sfan5, Krock, you could write a solution for #6918 in about 134 seconds and merge it in 540 seconds. 20:19 tenplus1 wait, doesnt quick only remove objects from the already loaded areas ?!?! 20:19 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6918 -- Add a confirmation prompt to /clearobjects and /clearobjects quick 20:20 Krock _Megaf, interesting attempt in speeding the process up but the chances to fail are high 20:20 IhrFussel No, many read it wrong or ignore the 2nd line in the docs 20:20 IhrFussel "* mode = `"quick"`: Clear objects immediately in loaded mapblocks; 20:20 IhrFussel clear objects in unloaded mapblocks only when the mapblocks are next activated." 20:24 IhrFussel /clearobjects quick will basically update a timestamp in env_meta.txt "last_clear_objects_time = 23845738" and each mapblock that gets loaded contains a "last cleared" timestamp if I understood it correctly...if that last cleared time < last_clear_objects_time then the engine will delete all objects of it 20:24 _Megaf 2018-01-26 20:10:00: [Server] Megaf clears all objects (full mode). 20:24 _Megaf This will take up to 24 hours to finish 20:24 _Megaf lets see which server gets back online first, Shara's or Megaf's 20:24 tenplus1 damn 20:25 Mr-Pardison _Megaf: talking about RC and when it will get back up versus yours? 20:27 IhrFussel Megaf, not sure how safe it is to kill minetest while it's clearing objects 20:27 _Megaf well, he tried, he died... 20:27 _Megaf :P 20:27 _Megaf xerox123, ! 20:27 tenplus1 hi xer 20:28 _Megaf tenplus1, I beat you 3 times today in saying high for people 20:28 tenplus1 :P 20:28 tenplus1 your on da ball :) 20:28 * tenplus1 watches dank memes 20:28 tenplus1 hi Wa 20:28 tenplus1 k, it's oficial, need new kb 20:29 tenplus1 ded keys 20:29 ThomasMonroe lol 20:29 Wayward_One eww 20:29 _Megaf lol tenplus1 20:31 Shara _Megaf: good luck :( 20:32 tenplus1 hi nerzhul 20:36 _Megaf Don't know if I should remove office from my computer and just use cloud based office instead 20:36 sfan5 ｃｌｏｕｄ 20:36 _Megaf I quite like the office software I have 20:36 tenplus1 what office sw you got on hdd ? 20:36 _Megaf !server Megaf 20:36 MinetestBot _Megaf: No results 20:36 _Megaf yep, down, due clearobjects 20:38 _Megaf tenplus1, this https://i.imgur.com/yT0opg3.png 20:39 tenplus1 ahh, used that a while back, not bad :) closed source tho isnt it ? 20:39 _Megaf Hi xerox123 20:39 _Megaf tenplus1, unfortunately 20:39 xerox123 hello 20:39 _Megaf xerox123, what's that sweet stats page again? 20:39 xerox123 having some issues with my ZNC/IRCd etc. 20:40 tenplus1 doesnt the latest libreoffice have the ribbon bar as well ?!?! 20:40 xerox123 it's down rn. wait 10 minutes 20:40 xerox123 www.xeroxirc.net:81/minetest-hub when it's up 20:40 _Megaf tenplus1, it does, and it's ugly and broken as heck 20:41 tenplus1 aww 20:42 tenplus1 wb paramat 20:43 ThomasMonroe wb paramat 20:44 * _Megaf removes wps-office 20:44 _Megaf I could have beaten both of you... 20:45 tenplus1 only problem with web based office is that when internet is down for any reason you cant edit anything or view 20:45 paramat _Megaf "find_nodes_in_area(): area volume exceeds allowed value of 551368" we added a check to avoid excessively large areas (larger than a mapchunk), moretrees uses excessively large areas so needs to be altered 20:45 Shara Hi paramat 20:45 Jordach tenplus1: *laughs in office 365* 20:45 paramat hello all 20:45 tenplus1 o/ 20:45 _Megaf Jordach, lol 20:45 Jordach paramat: you're not the only one fucked over by DWP :^) 20:46 _Megaf paramat, well, the problem there was a bung of date palms in close proximity 20:46 Jordach except if they try again, lawsuit 20:46 _Megaf bunch* 20:48 Jordach someone who works locally reviewed my medical history and said they should've never took it away 20:49 _Megaf /dev/sda5 237056 137448 99608 58% / 20:49 _Megaf don't use large blocks in your ext4 FS 20:49 _Megaf just dont 20:50 _Megaf it doesnt matter if your system will be 3x faster 20:50 _Megaf you will run out of inodes all the time 20:50 _Megaf /dev/sda5 236737 3524 230828 2% / 20:50 _Megaf I have used 2% of MBs and 58% of inodes 20:50 Jordach the hell are inodes 20:51 tenplus1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode 20:52 Megaf_ Hi tenplus1 20:52 Megaf_ :) 20:52 ThomasMonroe lol 20:53 tenplus1 wb :P 20:55 _Megaf 725M /var/log 20:55 _Megaf that's a lot of log for a system less than a week old 20:56 tenplus1 indeed... mines is in tmpfs 20:56 _Megaf 236M /var/log/messages 20:56 _Megaf 15M /var/log/installer 20:56 _Megaf 236M /var/log/kern.log 20:56 _Megaf [10598.469711] [drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915]] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe B (start=633008 end=633009) time 345 us, min 795, max 799, scanline start 791, end 808 20:56 _Megaf [11081.654140] [drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915]] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe B (start=661923 end=661924) time 721 us, min 795, max 799, scanline start 774, end 810 20:56 _Megaf I hate intel 20:56 _Megaf And nvidia 20:57 _Megaf there's lots of ugly stuff in the messages, oh my 20:57 _Megaf [ 335.150905] EXT4-fs (sda4): unable to read superblock 20:57 _Megaf [ 335.187468] XFS (sda4): Invalid superblock magic number 20:57 _Megaf [ 335.194220] FAT-fs (sda4): bogus number of reserved sectors 20:57 _Megaf look at that 20:58 tenplus1 check S.M.A.R.T logs, see if drive is failing 20:58 _Megaf /dev/sda4 491522046 976771071 485249026 231.4G 5 Extended 20:58 sofar does it still boot? 20:58 _Megaf That's just Linux doing shi** 20:58 _Megaf sda4 is not XFS 20:59 _Megaf is just an extended partition for sda5 20:59 sofar what fs is sda4? 20:59 sofar ah 20:59 _Megaf /dev/sda5 491522048 976771071 485249024 231.4G 83 Linux 20:59 _Megaf That's ext4 20:59 sofar just autodetection going wrong 20:59 sofar everyone is doing gpt nowadays 20:59 _Megaf [ 346.545584] FAT-fs (sda4): Can't find a valid FAT filesystem 20:59 sofar well duh 20:59 _Megaf sda4 WAS a NTFS partition 21:00 _Megaf but because windows had used all primary partitons and had no logical partitions I had to delete that partition and create an extended 21:01 tenplus1 what distro ? 21:01 _Megaf and the feck is this? http://paste.debian.net/plain/1007399 21:01 _Megaf sofar, ^ 21:01 _Megaf tenplus1, Debian 8 21:02 sofar vblank timed out 21:02 sofar is there a display attached? 21:02 sofar 4.9 kernel, probably old stuff 21:02 sofar update your kernel :) 21:03 sfan5 but he's using debian 21:03 tenplus1 try Lubuntu 17.10, it's light and has 4.13 kernel 21:03 sofar sure, they've backported retpoline to 4.9, right :) 21:04 sofar sorry, I'm biased ;) 21:04 _Megaf tenplus1, I can just upgrade to Debian 9... 21:04 paramat Jordach sorry to hear it, i wish you well 21:04 Jordach paramat: not a worry, there's a worker willing to legal battle 21:04 tenplus1 that too :P 21:04 Jordach he read my medical crap 21:05 Shara Yet I have relatives who basically lie so they can claim... 21:05 * tenplus1 notices that lubuntu 17.10 is built on debian 9 :PP 21:05 Shara They get more in handouts than I can actually earn... 21:05 * Shara doesn't like certain things in this country :P 21:06 * Jordach doesn't like liberal immigration 21:06 tenplus1 true shara, I know someone who gets almost 26k of handouts PA where I made half that if lucky 21:07 Shara Let's just say I'm deeply ashamed of some of my own family members 21:07 Jordach ^ 21:07 * _Megaf starts upgrade to Debian 9 21:07 Jordach my older brothers work, my younger? total chav 21:07 tenplus1 wb fussel 21:07 _Megaf welcome back IhrFussel 21:07 _Megaf tenplus1, lol, I wrote more stuff 21:07 Jordach put it like this, my dad wondered enough about my condition he had my genetics analysed 21:07 _Megaf =/ 21:07 IhrFussel Is there a way to get meta of an item from the stack? 21:07 tenplus1 ehehe 21:08 IhrFussel Thanks guys^^ 21:08 Jordach local meta = itemstack:get_meta() 21:08 tenplus1 if an item is in a stack then meta will be copied to them all I think 21:08 Jordach treat itemstack meta like player attributes 21:08 Jordach they work identically 21:08 Jordach except the description and color tags 21:10 IhrFussel Jordach, I'm trying to copy the meta of the purchased item so that the added item has the same meta as the one in the shop... any easy way to do that? Relevant lines are pinv:remove_item("main", pay) 21:10 IhrFussel pinv:add_item("main", stack) 21:11 Jordach IhrFussel: figure out what slot the item went into, load the itemstack 21:11 red-001 Krock, huh? 21:11 Jordach then set meta 21:11 red-001 I tested the changes and didn't see that 21:11 Jordach or use ItemStack() 21:11 Jordach then add ItemStack() to the player inv 21:12 red-001 oh I see I messed up on types 21:12 _Megaf closing hexchat here to free RAM, ping me at Megaf 21:12 _Megaf cya 21:12 * Mr-Pardison tosses a ping at Megaf 21:13 tenplus1 lol 21:13 tenplus1 nite folks :) 21:14 Megaf Mr-Pardison: :) 21:15 Megaf had to free ram because packages cache is ramdisk and im doing a dist upgrade 21:19 Sokomine Raven262: thanks to your model, the plasterwork mod is now ready :-) 21:23 Sokomine paramat: will that "excessively large areas" also affect mg_villages? after all it does read the mapblock plus shell in order to be able to do repairs 21:28 paramat the check is only for 'minetest.find nodes in area' not LVM 21:30 Sokomine aah. thanks 21:31 xerox123 Megaf: the stats page is not up :) 21:31 xerox123 now 21:31 Megaf link again 21:32 paramat Sokomine see end of https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6965#issuecomment-360907810 21:32 Megaf please 21:33 Megaf wb Thomas-S 21:33 Megaf ThomasMonroe: 21:33 Megaf =/ 21:33 Megaf Hi Thomas-S 21:33 Megaf streets working well by the way, with one little problem 21:33 Megaf if I type sign to search for streets signs, none show up 21:37 xerox123 www.xeroxirc.net:81/minetest-hub 21:39 Megaf lol, now CWz is the most talktive of all time 21:39 Megaf that is a lie 21:39 Megaf ah 21:39 Megaf less talktive 21:39 Megaf ok, my bad 21:40 Megaf CWz: you talk too little 21:40 Megaf I like the "Most Talkative People by Time of Day"part 21:40 Mr-Pardison Megaf: you talk too much 21:40 Mr-Pardison compared to CWz ofc. 21:41 ThomasMonroe lol 21:41 Megaf Mr-Pardison: I'm hyper-active, I'm supposed to talk a lot 21:41 ThomasMonroe Megaf just talks in short sentences 21:41 Megaf ThomasMonroe: That is not correct. Sometimes I do indeed. But often I write proper sentences, Like this one 21:41 Jordach >Most Referenced Domain Names 21:41 Jordach >54 | 9 | http://jordach.net 21:41 Jordach make that 55 pls 21:41 Megaf Jordach: hah 21:42 ThomasMonroe lol 21:42 Jordach >Words of 7 Characters 21:42 Jordach players \n because \n servers \n already \n problem 21:42 Megaf hah! I LMAO 21:43 Megaf that is so perfect 21:43 Megaf and server \n should \n player \n really \n people is nice too Jordach 21:43 Megaf all lists are cool 21:44 Megaf !server Megaf 21:44 MinetestBot Megaf: No results 21:44 Megaf = 21:44 Megaf =/ 21:46 Jordach also, !(a==a) won't work with fast-math 21:46 Jordach when did Lua hire Big Shaq? 21:46 rubenwardy ? 21:46 Jordach (i'm referencing Man's Not Hot) 21:46 ThomasMonroe longet monologue: Megaf 29 21:46 rubenwardy ? 21:46 ThomasMonroe longest* 21:46 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M_5oYU-IsU 21:47 Megaf moddiest people: tenplus1 21:47 Megaf moodiest* 21:47 * Megaf slaps ThomasMonroe 21:47 * Megaf slaps Jordach 21:48 * Mr-Pardison throws the kitchen sink at Jordach 21:48 * Jordach makes diamond tools take an extra 10% of total wear at random 21:48 Jordach 8k durability 21:48 Megaf Oo 21:48 ThomasMonroe :O ow 21:48 Jordach they break entirely in about 9 cracks 21:49 Megaf IhrFussel and rubenwardy are the most kicked people of this channel 21:49 Raven262 Sokomine, Nice. 21:49 Jordach kektus 21:49 rubenwardy that's because I usually kick myself as a joke XD 21:49 rubenwardy usually, as in a few times 21:49 Raven262 Sorry for the late response, blame Megaf for showing me that game :) 21:50 Raven262 Its so hard to type after playing that thing 21:50 Mr-Pardison I kick myself from DL if I'm online and am going to be afk for my own safety even tho I keep my name hidden. 21:50 Megaf Raven262: hah, that's an amazing game isnt it 21:50 Megaf which one were you playing? 21:50 xerox123 maybe put the link in the topic 21:51 * Jordach is tempted to hide a skkkrraatttt for MESE levelling 21:51 Jordach i have a meme problem 21:51 Raven262 The first one, descent into the darkness 21:51 Shara Better to leave only official links in the topic 21:52 Raven262 "Dark Descent" 21:52 Raven262 Well damn, I was sure it was the other way around :P 21:53 Megaf "Megaf typed 9,533 lines on #minetest-hub – an average of 68 lines per day. 21:53 Megaf Most active day was Dec 15, 2017 with a total of 369 lines typed" 21:53 Mr-Pardison Megaf: I'm also hyper-active but you see I don't type much. 21:54 Megaf Because you are not in holidays 21:54 Megaf :P 21:58 Megaf # uptime 21:58 Megaf 21:58:34 up 5 days, 1:40, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.29, 0.64 21:58 Megaf time to reboot because kernel update 22:05 Megaf_ Wow! Did MATE get fancy on Debian 9 22:05 Megaf_ with these animations and fade stuff 22:19 Megaf there 23:05 Megaf !server Megaf 23:05 MinetestBot Megaf: No results 23:43 ThomasMonroe Bye all