Time Nick Message 00:00 RoaryTiger 24 immortal manics killing each other over a box canyon in the desert and every so often dancing in a conga line... 00:00 Mr_Pardison busy doing stuff on RC. 00:00 RoaryTiger that's a whole new level of manics 00:00 Mr_Pardison could I answer your quetions? 00:00 RoaryTiger immortal and getting killed and killing other immortals 00:00 RoaryTiger maniac 00:00 Mr_Pardison just wait until you see r4. 00:00 Raven262 Wait, they CAN die 00:00 * Jordach starts playing the TF2 theme 00:01 RoaryTiger meh 00:01 RoaryTiger Minetest much betta® 00:01 Mr_Pardison one mo' time: mo' betta! 00:02 RoaryTiger Minetest much betta™ 00:02 * RoaryTiger writes in English accent 00:02 Raven262 It might be better, but it doesn't have pyroland! I seem to have found myself a job, eh? 00:02 Calinou RoaryTiger: 24 immortal spies* 00:02 Calinou a good team is 12 spies, if not more! 00:02 Calinou or 12 snipers 00:02 Mr_Pardison cagey snipers. 00:02 Calinou hi Raven262 :) 00:03 Raven262 And medics pocketing snipers... 00:03 RoaryTiger my old nick used to be =IML=Megaf=Sniper= 00:03 Calinou heh 00:03 Raven262 Hi Calinou :) 00:03 Calinou I sometimes pocket Scouts with the Quick-Fix 00:03 Calinou it works well if the Scout plays well and you do as well 00:03 Calinou (in some cases) 00:03 Calinou the speed bonus makes it much easier 00:03 Raven262 But snipers are a whole new level. 00:03 Mr_Pardison games I play, we consider them to be useless campers unless they actually know how to cover your 12 (or your 6 if you are taking the flag in a CTF match) 00:03 Calinou I rarely play sniper, but I do love the SMG and Classical :D 00:03 Calinou 00:04 Calinou always fun to see people rage when they get killed 00:04 Raven262 Well, there are bad snipers, good snipers... and there is that guy in CTF Turbine who stands in front of your team killing everyone :P 00:04 Calinou I've had my share of Heavies killed using only the MG 00:04 Mr_Pardison fraggers/mults. 00:04 Calinou or Soldiers/Pyros 00:04 Mr_Pardison grrrrr 00:04 Raven262 Random crits on flamethrower FTW 00:04 Calinou I also main the Force-a-Nature as Scout 00:05 Calinou and I wear a gibus on all classes for added effect 00:05 Raven262 F2P 00:05 Raven262 xD 00:05 Calinou (I have a party hat too, but it's not nearly as efficient, if you know what I mean) 00:05 Mr_Pardison gibbon? 00:05 Calinou the black top hat with a small skeleton thing emerging from it 00:05 Raven262 I had my gibus painted pink, and i scrapped it. 00:05 Raven262 I now regret that. 00:19 RoaryTiger cya 00:44 garywhite in 0.5.0-dev, why are almost all the servers greyed except for the 4 or 5 that are on 0.5.0? 00:45 benrob0329 garywhite: incompatibilities? 00:45 garywhite idk 00:46 garywhite It says protocol version mismatch 00:46 garywhite Server supports protocol versions between 24 & 34. We only support version 36. 00:47 benrob0329 Makes sense 00:48 garywhite Only downside is now you can't connect to any servers running lower than 0.5.0 with a 0.5.0 client 00:49 garywhite is that a bug or is that just something that we'll have to deal with? 00:51 Jordach bug 00:55 garywhite Does that mean I have to report it as an issue? 01:28 sofar compat with 0.4.16 will take extra work. you can file an issue if it's not already filed 01:35 * garywhite hopes there is an issue already filed cause he hates filing issues 02:27 Roger9 Apparently 0.5.0 will drop support for LozeXP? 03:04 paramat what is LozeXP? 07:12 benrob0329 Krock, garywhite, RobbieF: redid TARDIS models and textures, should look much better now 09:07 tenplus1 hi folks 09:09 tenplus1 wb greeter 10:22 tenplus1 wb nrz 11:39 shivajiva Hi tenplus1 11:39 tenplus1 hi shiva, wb sniper 11:40 shivajiva what's new tenlus? 11:40 tenplus1 xanadu updated with latest simple skins, /setskin works fine again :D 11:41 tenplus1 0.4.16 compliant and uses player attributes for skins now 11:41 shivajiva what's changed? 11:41 shivajiva ah 11:42 tenplus1 still loads simple_skins.mt player skins for backwards compatibility tho :) but wont save 11:42 shivajiva better than a file holding all the player skin choices for sure 11:42 tenplus1 definitely... only issue is that player MUST be online for me to set skin using /setskin command 11:42 tenplus1 or any player attributs 11:43 CWz i have idea on how mt could supass mc 11:43 tenplus1 hi CWz, how's that ? 11:43 shivajiva hi Cwz 11:43 CWz with figitspinners 11:43 tenplus1 lolol 11:43 Raven262 No. 11:43 Raven262 Just no. 11:44 shivajiva lol 11:44 tenplus1 hi raven 11:44 Raven262 Hi tenplus1 11:44 Raven262 Hi shivajiva, CWz 11:44 shivajiva hi Raven :) 11:45 shivajiva what's the deal with the player needing to be online? 11:45 CWz Also having minetest youtubers would also help 11:46 tenplus1 agree'd... we need more minetest lets play and games/adventures on youtube 11:46 CWz We need masscot that appeals to wide variety if people like Steve does for minecraft 11:46 tenplus1 the Bald Nerd hasn't been up for some time, but I did like his shows 11:46 CWz never heard of him 11:47 tenplus1 heh 11:47 CWz Anyway, we need to make "Sam" hip with the crowd 11:47 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K97uXmMqr3Q 11:47 tenplus1 check that one dude 11:47 CWz Green flannelshirt and bluepants won't cut it 11:48 tenplus1 we dont need a character but a host... someone ppl will watch that's exciting 11:48 CWz Office Guy doesn't appeal to many people 11:48 CWz that too 11:49 tenplus1 I did ask Yogscast, PopularMMO's and Bajan Canadian to do an mt vid at one point, no answer :( 11:49 Raven262 I have managed to recreate a few textures that i have lost this summer. Its somewhat hard to recreate them from screenshots though. https://i.imgur.com/ZYpO8fT.png 11:49 tenplus1 robbie's cat5tv did one and I liked that :D was funny (link above) 11:49 tenplus1 ouch 11:51 CWz but Steve for example; he appeals to a lot of minecrafters because they feel a connection with someone like him. either a deadbeat dad, someone who works a minimum wage job; which pretty much everyone nowadays, a older jock brother, the guy who works at an auto repair shop, and much more 11:51 CWz who does sam appeal too. 11:52 shivajiva does xanadu use player db? 11:52 tenplus1 this is why we have skin mods :P so players can change the initial sam... same way they change the initial steve in mc 11:52 tenplus1 shiva, how you mean player db? 11:52 CWz still those both sam and steve are the default skin, and the mascot of their own games 11:53 shivajiva optional sqlite db for player data 11:53 tenplus1 sam is fine :) 11:53 CWz It's like if SEGA used one of their office guys as mascot 11:53 tenplus1 nah shiva, too many mods patched into ip_for_names for me to switch 11:54 shivajiva ah okay, I was going to suggest you access the db and write the skin for offline players 11:54 CWz sadly, fine isn't good enough nowadays, people want hip, people want pazzazz, people want- a forget it. 11:55 CWz Sam just doesn't have the same swag as steve 11:55 tenplus1 I dont like steve, but think sam is ok 11:55 tenplus1 steve looks like he has a tumor on his face 11:55 CWz then sam appeals to you more. 11:55 tenplus1 yet my skin texture is a goblin :P 11:56 CWz I never said steve was a good skin, it just appeals to more people it seems 11:56 CWz just like how catch(click) the clown appeals to the game maker community noobs 11:56 tenplus1 ? 11:57 CWz i was referring to gamemaker studio and the noobs from it's community 11:57 tenplus1 ohh 11:59 CWz anyway on another subject i wonder who'd win in fight to the death; Steve or Sam 12:00 tenplus1 Sam 12:00 CWz how come? 12:00 tenplus1 cause steve is such a noob 12:01 CWz at the end of the day both steve and sam look like they do drugs, i blame the low rez 12:01 tenplus1 if someone creates a higher res skin then maybe it would get in :D 12:01 CWz there's still the issue with greenshit+bluepants 12:02 tenplus1 looks fine... 12:02 tenplus1 who has issue ? 12:04 CWz we should either make sam cuter, like kawaii cute, or make him more cooler. then everyone will see ours mascot is better then minecraft's and then will will over take their sales 12:05 CWz Hahaha! 12:06 CWz anyway, that just a theory 12:06 tenplus1 look how suave this guy is: https://s24.postimg.org/9ytdaekg3/render_Minetest2.png 12:07 shivajiva that's quite a good image 12:07 CWz yes, but that not how sam looks in game 12:08 tenplus1 lol, how about a smiley system where chat changes the facial expression of your character 12:08 CWz That could work 12:08 tenplus1 then you could add character to the character :) 12:08 CWz genius 12:09 CWz I vote you for head of department of mascot affairs. 12:09 Raven262 That is gonna look creepy. 12:09 tenplus1 lol, sam winky face while digging 12:10 CWz Next, we need better animation for sam. robot walking is so 80s 12:10 CWz we need something more upbeats and cheerful 12:11 Raven262 The movement is not in sync with player's input. 12:11 Raven262 There is lag 12:26 tenplus1 o/ fixer 12:28 tenplus1 hi Jordach 12:29 Fixer hello 12:32 tenplus1 hey lisac 12:38 lisac hey tenplus1 12:38 tenplus1 o/ 12:38 lisac tenplus1, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/7eb0g3/did_you_hear_about_minetest_a_foss_nearinfinite/dq4yhuu/ 12:39 tenplus1 ooh, thanks dude :) 12:40 tenplus1 we were talking about more youtube personalities playing minetest, would be a good way to promote game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K97uXmMqr3Q 13:16 Jordach >sets reddit flair to that solar plains dude 13:16 tenplus1 :P 13:31 jas_ hi 13:31 tenplus1 hi jas 13:31 jas_ hi tenplus1 you marvelous individual you! how are things? 13:31 tenplus1 quiet today but okie :) you ? 13:32 jas_ oh not quite as good as that 13:32 jas_ turns out the dig animation is on player:get_player_controls().RMB 13:32 jas_ i gotta comment on this bindable mouse buttons PR, dunno what can be done. 13:32 jas_ but also want to try to get it to stop spamming on activate (right clicking air) 13:33 jas_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6537 13:33 tenplus1 sometimes you want animation to happen when in air... 13:33 jas_ i can't go back to spacebar for jumping, man 13:34 jas_ i may argue that since it's an engine, mtg doesn't apply here 13:35 jas_ but it's not fair, there's not a way to determine whether jumping or placing or sneaking buttons are clicked without doing the command itself? 13:35 jas_ /:D/ 13:35 jas_ thanks for asking. 13:36 tenplus1 hrmmm 13:36 jas_ again with this!? https://pastebin.com/hZ1Q1TTw 13:37 jas_ can't be a coincidence. odd to see it suddenly twice in as many days. i don't get a lot of connects.. 13:38 tenplus1 I feel that on join all nicks should be saved to database as lowercase so that case doesnt matter 13:40 jas_ i haven't looked or tested, but i think that may be a new bug 13:40 jas_ fresh 13:41 tenplus1 we already have a check so that Connor and connor are same on server... 13:41 tenplus1 that's what brings up the error you see 13:42 jas_ it must error with a 0.4.16 client before the mismatched message i guess 13:42 jas_ i never seen it before yesterday 14:04 jas_ testing showing coords and direction when wielding walkie:talkie. gonna make it (eventually) show last place of death as waypoint mm 14:04 jas_ https://twitch.tv/jastvn 14:05 jas_ wanna make a image elem type that changes to the 8 positions heh, is it 8? hrm 14:05 jas_ i just did math.round(player:get_look_horizontal()) and that seemed to work 14:06 tenplus1 hi thomas 14:06 ThomasMonroe hi tenplus1 14:09 benrob0329 CWz: whats wrong with flannel? Its comfy and cozy 14:10 tenplus1 soft 14:11 benrob0329 tenplus1: redid the tardis models and textures last night 14:11 * CWz wishes presidents will stop doing the 100 miles stare 14:12 tenplus1 ooh, tardis mod is kewl :D 14:12 CWz Yay for tardis 14:13 * CWz chants the doctor who theme 14:13 benrob0329 Also fixed it so that you don't get teleported into the door 14:14 tenplus1 glitch fest :) fix em all :D 14:14 CWz too bad we could have made an episode out of that 14:15 tenplus1 the doctor needs wd-40 to solve his problem that a sonic screwdriver couldnt fix 14:15 benrob0329 I think most of the bugs are fixed, its just lacking features 14:15 tenplus1 itll happen :P 14:16 benrob0329 Need to redo the demat lever model, its a bit bland 14:17 benrob0329 But I'm pretty happy with now the new exterior model looks, much better than that converted model thing 14:17 benrob0329 *how 14:20 Megaf ChocolateMann, lol 14:20 Megaf Hi tenplus1 14:20 Megaf ^ owned 14:20 tenplus1 hi Megaf :P 14:21 benrob0329 Hi Megaf 14:21 Megaf Man, I will stop trolling, I give up. People simply wont ban me from IRC channels for some reason. 14:21 tenplus1 ehehe 14:21 Megaf Look how I behaved yesterday here 14:21 benrob0329 Lol 14:22 Megaf I do not believe I was right in the way I was acting 14:22 Megaf was I right yesterday sofar? I don't think so 14:22 benrob0329 We all say stuff we regret 14:23 benrob0329 Its realizing and apologizing that counts 14:24 Megaf I don't regret... Don't think it was right wither 14:24 Megaf either* 14:27 shivajiva hi RoaryT, 14:27 Megaf I find this video hilarious. I hope I'm not the only one. https://9gag.com/gag/ajNjgqx 14:27 tenplus1 lol 14:28 Megaf If you dont understand the gif, here is an explanation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVxaL8CAO4M 14:29 Megaf Thats the guy in space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdMRoMi8F0I 14:29 tenplus1 it's ok, I get it :P 14:30 shivajiva guess he forgot he wasn't in the zero-g plane??? 14:33 Megaf lol 14:34 shivajiva I love the way the doors open outwards for a craft in a negative atmosphere and they put wiring on the outside in a micro meteor environ...how daft am I supposed to be... 14:35 shivajiva I think the asparagus eating vid is the best example of the editing they use to splice this crap together 14:36 shivajiva watch the scissors top right for the edits if you are interested 14:37 Megaf Jordach, watched already? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdMRoMi8F0I 14:43 tenplus1 hi caleb 14:44 CalebDavis hi ten 14:49 tenplus1 hi twoelk 14:49 twoelk o/ 14:55 CWz I wonder did MegaF ever finish that bottle 14:56 * twoelk gets thirsty at the thought of an unfinished bottle of wine 14:56 Raven262 Or did it finish HIM... 14:58 * benrob0329 ponders making a forum post about the tardis mod 14:58 tenplus1 you should 14:59 benrob0329 Testing And Relative Dimensions In (3D) Space 15:00 Wayward_One hi all :) 15:00 tenplus1 hey wayward 15:00 benrob0329 Hi Wayward_One 15:01 Raven262 Hi Wayward_One 15:03 Megaf CWz, I did :) 15:03 twoelk benrob0329: a new tardis mod? do list all the other Dr.Who themed threads, there should be quite a few by now 15:03 Megaf Now I'm having a pint of coffee 15:05 * twoelk raises his pot of coffee in greeting 15:10 Megaf same here 15:10 Megaf twoelk, what kind you having? espresso? latte? Mocca? 15:11 Megaf I'm having a latte made from espresso 15:11 twoelk lungo 15:13 twoelk we got this stupid machine, so to fill the pot I make two lungo ad some hot water and finish with some milk 15:13 Megaf hah 15:13 Megaf that's alright 15:13 twoelk I must confess I'm no fan of these machines you usually find in offices nowadays 15:14 Megaf from the machine I used to take mocachino 15:16 twoelk somehow I miss the freshly hand roasted coffee's of arabia - always different - exciting - and often an adventure 15:19 twoelk some needed full concentration to smile and not offend the host - but even so after a while with the tastebuds aligned for the new sensations they left you craving for more 15:20 twoelk technically I guess those coffees would be sortet as mocca 15:20 Megaf I only drink fresh coffee 15:20 twoelk define fresh :-) 15:21 Megaf buy the ground coffee in vacuum and make it fresh myself 15:21 Megaf But I rather by roasted coffee beans and grind them myself 15:21 Megaf just before brewing 15:22 twoelk well, I used to watch the host roast the beans, grind them and then make the coffee, on a little open fire in the sitting room 15:25 tenplus1 back laters :D 15:27 Megaf Whos 4w? 15:30 benrob0329 twoelk: same tardis mod as before, I just haven't posted yet as it wasn't the least bit stable when I started 15:30 Megaf !tell paramat Hi paramat, I do not agree with my behavior myself and agree with you that it was incorrect. However, I think it is not necessary to bring that to GitHub and I would greatly appreciate if you removed that 15:30 ShadowBot Megaf: O.K. 15:32 Megaf (memoserv limits messages to 300 characters) 15:33 Megaf Need to buy more wine 15:41 CWz well look no further then crossover 15:43 Megaf I need some love https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6654#issuecomment-346066557 15:47 Megaf welcome back oOChainLynxOo 15:48 oOChainLynxOo hello Megaf :) 15:48 benrob0329 Wb oOChainLynxOo 15:53 Megaf ok, here we go again, building SQLite, LuaJIT, IRRLicht and Minetest 15:54 Megaf setting lua thing to legacy hides the flood of messages indeed, at least that allows me to work on the server 15:54 jas_ i just use the libs in debian stable 15:54 Megaf I used to do that too, but I got some nice performance gains compiling myself 15:54 jas_ in irrlicht? 15:55 Megaf the major performance gains seem to have come from sqlite regarding world generation and access 15:55 Megaf I havent tested about luajit and irrlicht yet 15:55 Megaf since I tested only single player without mods 15:55 jas_ stable releases of those libs? 15:55 Megaf yep 15:56 jas_ huh cool 15:56 Megaf I made a script to build everything if you want to try http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/Minetest_Irrlicht_LuaJIT_SQLite_For_Linux_Builder/src/Unstable/Build.sh 15:56 jas_ someday, i don't worry too much about performance yet 15:56 Megaf hah 15:56 Megaf that's ok 15:56 jas_ i actually had fps capped at 30 :O 15:57 jas_ have* 15:58 Megaf ok, the build script failed for some reason 16:01 Megaf not, script did not fail :) 16:01 Megaf s/not/nope 16:09 Megaf Oh boy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_tYrnv_o6A "Your Amazing Molecular Machines" 16:18 Megaf Yay! -- *** Will build version 0.4.16 *** 16:18 Megaf tag name on GitHub is fixed 16:18 Megaf sfan5, ^ 16:19 Megaf I used stable-0.4 tho. Should I really change to backport? 16:40 Megaf If you ever wandered how is a Minetest world without a subgame wonder no further and see mt.megaf.info 30003 16:40 Megaf no mods at all 16:41 Megaf (just areas) 16:41 Megaf it's a world of unknown blocks 16:42 Sokomine yes, i've seen those before. it does look strange at first 16:47 Megaf ok, server crashed 16:47 Raven262 I see 16:48 Megaf not Minetest faults 16:48 Megaf I ran out of space in the HD 16:48 Raven262 lol 16:48 Megaf interesting experience regardless 16:49 Megaf will be back much later 16:49 Megaf cya 18:00 Fixer *,,,,,* 18:19 CWz This just in, uber extremists attack a taxidriver preserve 18:20 CWz heh 18:25 Fixer five stars 18:26 CWz ? 18:34 Fixer that was a meme 18:35 IhrFussel Hi guys 18:40 Fixer IhrFussel: hi, minetest is doing 18:47 Raven262 Hi IhrFussel 19:49 benrob0329 RobbieF, tenplus1: 19:51 * benrob0329 uploaded an image: screenshot_20171121_140738.png (331KB) 19:51 RobbieF hi benrob0329 19:51 RobbieF Oooh, nice TARDIS :) 19:51 RobbieF how's that coming? 19:52 benrob0329 RobbieF: slowly, but its should be stable as is 19:53 Krock Doctor! 19:55 benrob0329 Krock: little better than the last model? :P 19:56 Krock "Are you alright?" ".. can't with the TARDIS from the time corridor. Hold on." "What is it?" "A Duck!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpoXlWbzY-M 19:57 Krock benrob0329, looks good already. however, the texture needs reworking 19:58 benrob0329 Most likely, I might try to add some shading to it tonight 19:59 Jordach i wonder what this is used for 19:59 Jordach https://jordach.net/images/hqtxtjuciolunrjgj.png 20:00 benrob0329 Jordach: clearly, the the thing out of a 70s SciFi series :^) 20:01 Jordach the blend name is the biggest clue 20:01 Fixer *,,,,,,* 20:02 Jordach except, it's not a model 20:02 Jordach it's nodebox refenrece 20:02 Jordach reference* 20:07 benrob0329 I like how no one but me noticed that I didn't do the windows correctly 20:15 RobbieF good to hear benrob0329! Can't wait to be "back in Minetest mode" and can try it out! 20:22 benrob0329 I wonder if I can manage to make the scanner.. 20:22 benrob0329 What ways do we have of displaying a map? 20:26 benrob0329 Ohh, I could set the player's camera straight down, and have them move above the ground (being made invisible ofc) 20:27 benrob0329 Can you replace the hand on a per-player level? 20:28 RoaryTiger and where is Megaf connected from now? Oo 20:28 RoaryTiger it must be my toshiba laptop 20:28 RoaryTiger oh well 20:29 Calinou RoaryTiger: which distro do you use? and which graphics card model? 20:30 RoaryTiger welcome back Jordach_ 20:30 Calinou it's easy on pretty much any distro today 20:30 Calinou *but* on Arch Linux derivatives, you need to make sure to use a DKMS driver, so that it doesn't break when the kernel updates 20:30 Calinou (it may not always default to a DKMS one) 20:30 RoaryTiger It's not difficult actually, but it does involves downloading a number of backages, compiling modules and rebooting 20:30 RoaryTiger whereas Radeon just works 20:31 Calinou it does everything for you 20:31 Calinou yes, you need to reboot, except on Manjaro where the live media has it :) 20:31 Calinou Antergos can also install it from the live media (where it'll be immediately effective on the installed system) 20:31 Calinou (except on laptops with hybrid graphics) 20:31 RoaryTiger brb, reboot 20:45 Fixer mmmm, hybrid graphics 20:50 benrob0329 Are there any mods which override the hand per player, so that I can see an example? 21:08 Fixer i suspect there is 21:34 Jordach_ https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/newhand 21:48 Megaf Calinou, I'm still trying to get this to work 21:48 Megaf it seems to be working, but when X comes up the display backlight is turned off 21:54 Megaf With Debian Stretch nouveau works great but b43 keeps crashing. With Debian Buster b43 works great but nouveau keeps crashing 21:54 Megaf you cant win with Linux 21:56 Megaf I will give a last chance to Debian, will try Sid 21:59 RoaryTiger lol, I try again too boot Debian, this time after starting mac and shuttting it down again. And it works 22:01 Calinou Megaf: I may switch to Linux again, but I'm not sure… 22:01 Calinou I never keep my OS installs more than 6 months, lol 22:01 Calinou though I may also stay on Windows for now 22:01 RoaryTiger neither do I 22:01 rubenwardy I never keep my OS installs more than 6 months, lol 22:01 RoaryTiger just on servers... 22:01 rubenwardy sounds like Linux would be good for you 22:02 rubenwardy I haven't used Windows in about 2 years 22:02 rubenwardy before then I used it for 3 months due to new laptop, and before then it was 2 years again 22:02 RoaryTiger rubenwardy, I quite windows in 2003 :) 22:02 RoaryTiger quit* 22:02 rubenwardy congrats :D 22:02 Calinou thing is, Windows works really well for me 22:02 Calinou so it wouldn't be for practical reasons 22:03 Calinou I have (almost) no technical issues with it 22:03 rubenwardy Windows sucked and was incredibly unstable when I had used it last 22:03 Calinou I'm on Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 22:03 rubenwardy plus it sucks for C++ development 22:03 Calinou note: the WSL breaks over if you manually upgrade Ubuntu 16.04 to 17.10 22:03 rubenwardy and Minetest 22:03 Calinou this is apparently fixed in the Insider builds 22:03 Calinou but I don't want to use Insider builds, with mandatory Full telemetry and feedback dialogs :( 22:03 rubenwardy plus I prefer my operating systems to be free of spyware and candy crush 22:04 Calinou same 22:07 benrob0329 Calinou: enter the Void (linux) 22:08 benrob0329 We have stupidly fast boot times :^) 22:10 benrob0329 Thanks Jordach_ 22:13 RoaryTiger can confirm fast boot times 22:13 RoaryTiger and the crazy thing, Linux can do a full regular cold boot quicker than a windows fast hot boot 22:14 RoaryTiger My unknown blocks server is back 22:14 RoaryTiger mt.megaf.info 22:14 RoaryTiger mt.megaf.info 30003 22:20 Megaf running clearobjects 22:31 benrob0329 RoaryTiger: I meant Void Linux specifically 22:32 Megaf benrob0329, Iḿ here. Tiger is sleeping :P 22:32 benrob0329 Megaf: ah, so RoaryTiger is an alt name? 22:34 Megaf its a nick I use when I'm feeling playful or when Megaf nick is busy in another computer 22:34 Megaf benrob0329, These are my nicks -> Megaf Megaf_ Megaf__ }[-_-]{ LittleRoaryTiger RoaryTiger ImNotHere ImNotThere Megaf[College] 22:36 Megaf benrob0329, and about void, it is cool and all But I've been planing my own OS for years already 22:36 Megaf and doing some research 22:39 Fixer my win 7 boot time is abysmall 22:40 Fixer win xp boots much faster under VM under said win7 22:40 Fixer io trashing is usual 22:41 benrob0329 Megaf: good luck, hope it uses Runit :PP 22:42 Megaf benrob0329, I dont really want to use any init system 22:42 Megaf just a very clean and small shell script to load what has to be loaded 22:42 Megaf I need a tiny shell too 22:43 Megaf I was thinking using kernels builtin busybox as shell 22:43 benrob0329 Megaf: so you want to create what people have been trying to move away from for years? 22:44 Mr_Pardison the horror. 22:44 benrob0329 Shell scripts and everything-in-a-kernel 22:44 Megaf benrob0329, I want the tiniest thing possible yet as fast as possible 22:45 Megaf benrob0329, but I will read about runit 22:45 benrob0329 To be honest, some kind of init is necessary nowadays to keep daemons running 22:45 benrob0329 Please do, its very small and very simple 22:45 Megaf benrob0329, my OS is for a very specific and dedicated use case ;) 22:46 Megaf It's a firmware actually