Time Nick Message 00:01 CalebDavis https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16526 is it this one 00:01 LazyJ Found it! "Cute Cubic Mobs" by RHR: 00:01 LazyJ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=9472 00:02 CalebDavis ok XD i just found it too :) 00:02 LazyJ Probably too cutesy for all the ultra epic-awesome, too-cool-for-everyone players but very simple. 00:02 CalebDavis i gtg help fix dinner cyall later 00:03 Fixer i think sofar did some cubic mobs recently 00:09 LazyJ A player over on Craig's server asked if there is a way to revert mossy cobble back into regular cobble. 00:09 LazyJ Cook it? 00:10 LazyJ I added a tool for that on LG but adding a single purpose tool isn't a good idea in my experience. 00:20 benrob0329 Cuboid mobs with good animations 00:20 benrob0329 (The Dungeon Master shall return!) 00:35 paramat yes 'simple mobs' is too old to refer too 00:37 benrob0329 KaadmY: please dont let kilbith run you down, he's full of it and everyone knows it. We all love your work and would hate to see it stop because someone decided to be an ass :-) 00:39 paramat cute cubic mods 2 has good and suitable models, that's rare for a MT mob mod 00:40 paramat no way in MTG to revert mossycobble to cobble, but cooking it is a good idea, feel free to open an issue 00:42 LazyJ I recommended to SG to open a suggestion Issue on MTG's GitHub. 00:42 LazyJ I've already come-up with a work-around for LG so it is less critical for me. 00:43 LazyJ Just thought I'd ask here in case I missed a mossy cobble change (easy to do these days; buried under a todo-list). 00:44 paramat ah CCM2 is perfect because that shows how to use nodeboxes for mobs, i didn't want to make models 02:50 * paramat adds azekill_DIABLO as a forum foe, to ignore their excessive posts 11:48 * shivajiva roars at Megaf 11:49 Megaf hah 11:49 * Megaf likes 11:49 shivajiva ;) 11:51 * Krock roars at shivajiva and Megaf 11:53 shivajiva Hey Krock :) 11:54 Megaf Hi Krock 11:54 Megaf any Android expert present? I could do with some help. https://imgur.com/gallery/jJGFr 12:14 Krock Calinou's belt: http://www.overclockers.com.au/images/newspics/17nov17/11.jpg 12:43 Megaf ok, I managed to get it working again 16:21 Aerozoic Is there a way to give a single priv to all existing accounts on a server? 16:23 jas_ in auth.txt, you can add it with sed 16:23 jas_ or was it awk? i forget, lol.. 16:23 Aerozoic sed awk? are those terminal commands? 16:24 jas_ yes. or do you not use auth.txt? i didn't notice if it's default or what's up with that now 16:24 jas_ something something db 16:24 Aerozoic Pretty sure i setup sqlite for player backend 16:24 Aerozoic i need to check, lol.. just a sec 16:24 jas_ oh, maybe then it's a SQL command? i dunno those even more 16:25 sfan5 auth data will always be in auth.txt (unless you're using e.g. sauth) 16:25 Aerozoic yep player backend=sqlite3 16:31 jas_ ok so it is different then 16:32 jas_ try sed s/interact,/interact,newpriv/g auth.txt, and if it looks right throw an -i in between... ? 16:33 jas_ i'm sure that's not the best way tho. i dunno why i thought awk. that's what i did when i needed to add one priv to a bunch of names anyway 16:33 jas_ i think i made bindable mouse PR not spam usable items on dig button... still does on place button pointing at air tho. fun playing with that file 16:33 Aerozoic welp, messing with auth.txt is dangerous. I wanna be absolutely sure before i do anything. 16:34 jas_ doing it without -i shows what it will does, and then adding -i makes it replace the file 16:35 sfan5 Aerozoic: you can create a backup 16:35 Aerozoic absolutely :) 16:37 Aerozoic i wish there was a priv manager mod 16:43 jas_ i wish i could tear frames 16:46 Aerozoic How many wishes do we get? XD 16:47 jas_ still fairly convinced movement is faster at a diagonal 16:47 jas_ ...at least. 16:48 Aerozoic ha, i've always wondered that. Should be easy to test. 16:48 jas_ one would think. i never dared, though. 16:48 jas_ physics, it's a tricky thing haha 16:48 Aerozoic d=rt 16:48 jas_ oh? 16:49 Aerozoic distance=(rate)(time) 16:49 jas_ i made a grenade tnt thing once, that was fun. still need to turn egg into a spear tool 16:50 jas_ would be nice to have that for snowball in stock minetest_game, and drop snow node wherever it lands. 16:50 Aerozoic just to make sure i understood, by diagonal, you meant holding both "W" and "A"? 16:50 jas_ i use ESDF 16:50 Megaf Hi 16:51 Aerozoic so e and s 16:51 jas_ esdf txcvargb <-- hotbar 16:51 jas_ shift is use, z is sneak, space is place, alt is zoom, RMB jump, LMB dig 16:51 jas_ q is drop, w is inventory. 16:51 jas_ yep, e and s and proper yaw 16:52 Aerozoic oh that reminds me, ever tried changing the default key for zoom? 16:52 jas_ yes 16:52 Aerozoic it's not in the change key menu and when i tried to change minetest.conf it absolutely refused to work. 16:53 jas_ it is for me 16:53 jas_ the only keys that aren't in the change keys menu are the hotbar slots 16:53 jas_ i have to change those in the .conf 16:53 jas_ what version do you use? 16:53 Aerozoic 16 stable 16:53 jas_ i dunno then 16:53 Aerozoic zoom is in the menu? maybe i missed it 16:53 jas_ on 0.5.0-dev 16:55 Aerozoic oh i see it now way off on the right by itself. I previously had adjusted the GUI size which had cut it off so i couldn't see it. 16:56 jas_ if you try out 0.5.0-dev, you can come to dcbl sometime 16:56 jas_ it's based off the same thing amhi was 16:56 jas_ buggy though, stamina bar doesn't always show up first thing new user? gah, reminds me of hud_hunger 16:57 Aerozoic Yeah i saw the forum post :) I should try it sometime. I'm having major issues with linux right now though. The only way i can even play MT is using the windows version on WINE -_- 16:58 jas_ (hud is actually in dcbl_default/ui.lua, used for armor lol) 16:58 jas_ wow 16:58 jas_ that's extreme! haha 16:58 jas_ better than an ipad tho 16:58 jas_ : D 16:58 Aerozoic lol, yep! 16:58 jas_ i wish android 0.5.0 worked D': 16:59 jas_ that's ok, i guess it doesn't even work on windows? or some versions, or some such thing 16:59 jas_ works great here on debian 9.. oh well 17:00 Aerozoic idek how you would get 5.0 on windows 17:00 jas_ haha 17:00 jas_ i think ubuntu is in windows store, problem solved! 17:01 Aerozoic XD 17:02 jas_ it doesn't bother me, but eventually it might bother others not to be able to use certain features 17:02 jas_ dinosaur mods are coming 17:03 jas_ honey i shrunk the minetest. i wanna try this feature now 17:03 jas_ i just played with itemstack:get_meta():set_tool_capabilities() and that was very fun 17:03 jas_ a lot of stuff is/will be backported to 0.4.1x tho haha 17:03 jas_ (i joke, i mean 0.4.17 ahem) 17:08 Roger9 Ello. 17:11 jas_ hi Roger9 17:16 jas_ but it's not just about x+z+yaw it's also about pitch, and how i move one in relation to the other, it seems. 17:17 jas_ i always thought it felt good anyway. mt is an interesting beast! 17:54 Jordach OwO 17:54 Jordach *notices your Minecon stream* 18:22 Calinou Jordach: whose stream? 18:23 Jordach Calinou, BTM Moon 18:23 Jordach :^) 18:48 Roger9 I have officially installed Debian 9. 18:48 Roger9 And with less help than I had last time. 19:53 Calinou Roger9: my WSL now runs Ubuntu 17.10, I upgraded it (16.04 → 17.04 then 17.04 → 17.10) 19:53 Calinou it's not supported, but seems to work so far 19:53 Calinou (even though the 2nd upgrade had a failure) 19:53 Calinou (there was no need to go through 16.10, as it's EOL now) 20:58 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18838 20:59 rubenwardy amazing github repo for that server ^ 20:59 rubenwardy lots of innotive content 20:59 rubenwardy https://github.com/Enrikoo/enricocraft 21:01 * paramat looked 21:01 Jordach :thonk: 21:02 Calinou rubenwardy: ROTY 2018 21:03 Calinou Repo of the Year 21:05 Krock *clones innovative content* 21:11 Krock https://i.imgur.com/ue1M4wU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tfDem5L.png 21:11 Krock ^ some real content made today 21:12 rubenwardy nice 21:12 Krock the upper roof looks quite cut-off, but I couldn't find a better matching solution yet :/ 21:22 Roger9 'Ello! 21:22 Roger9 Krock, rubenwardy, you have reason to celebrate. 21:25 Krock why? 21:27 Krock rubenwardy, seen the pasted server configuration here yet? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18843 21:27 Fixer Krock: BETA DAYS 21:27 Fixer oh wait 21:28 Fixer oh man 21:28 Krock the server is enabled twice, default_privs seems to be an invalid setting line and max_users is .. apparently 40?! 21:28 Fixer technic SSP for MC 1.2.5 - has nice ambience and has that feel, when I moved back 6 years ._. 21:28 Krock Fixer, beta? where? 21:28 rubenwardy jesus christ 21:28 Shara Yea... but it's minetesthosting, so everything is meaningless :D 21:28 Fixer it's SPARTA 21:35 rubenwardy what even https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18581 and https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18700 21:36 Jordach >old cisoun textures 21:36 Jordach you're a mad man 21:36 rubenwardy ah, they have different titles 21:37 rubenwardy never mind 21:47 Krock rubenwardy, yet two servers that use the areas + protector combination 21:47 Krock even if these aren't thought to be used together 21:48 rubenwardy I don't like protectors very much - it encourages players to spam these ugly blocks through out the sky to protect the sky, and means you have to hide them in you buildings 21:48 rubenwardy plus turning the player around is bad UX 21:49 rubenwardy and also completely unpredictable as until recently there was no HUD 21:49 Roger9 Back. 21:49 Roger9 Anyway, the reason is that I've switched back to Linux! Yay! 21:49 Shara Krock: Plenty of servers have used both mods 21:50 Shara I even have both running on DL (though I don't like having both) 21:50 Shara protectors has problems, especially for large scale admin created areas 21:50 Krock as soon areas can be used by regular players, there will be dead zones, where both protection mods can cancel access to a place 21:50 Fixer rubenwardy: it sucks but it was mitigated by those logos, but they still visible pretty much 21:51 Krock not a fan of protectors either tbh 21:51 Shara Krock: protectors can create dead zones all by itself anyway 21:51 Fixer i hate protectors with usual reason - it is not eye pleasent to see sky full of them 21:51 Krock oh, isn't there a range check for them? 21:51 Shara Only reason I use it is because on a survival server, it feels like protection should be earned 21:51 Krock inb4 landrush :3 21:52 rubenwardy there's better ways to add cost 21:52 Shara Krock, protectors from different players can leave you with situations where it's impossible to place one 21:52 rubenwardy like making area protection use a consumable item 21:52 Shara Sadly I am not made of time 21:52 rubenwardy or having a protector node, but allowing it to be placed (and so hidden) anywhere inside the protection area 21:52 Krock "protection powered by 2 stacks of bread" 21:53 Shara I've considered making the protectors invisible though 21:53 Krock (consumable item) 21:53 Krock but invisible ones will also block your building plans sometimes 21:53 Shara But at least players know how to use the things 21:54 Roger9 Maybe they should be semitransparent? 21:54 Shara Roger9: pretty sure that would make it worse, not better 21:54 rubenwardy Sadly I am not made of time regrettably 21:54 Roger9 What would it even feel like to be made of time? 21:55 Shara I'm not sure if it would feel like anything 22:05 Roger9 Meh, it might feel kinda timey. 22:06 Roger9 Granted, time isn't even a physical substance. 22:07 Raven262 Ah, so is your soul made out of physical substance? 22:07 Raven262 And yet you say it exists. 22:07 Roger9 I didn't remember saying that souls exist. 22:08 Roger9 And still don't. 22:08 Raven262 Oh nice. 22:08 Raven262 Self awareness then? 22:08 Roger9 ? 22:08 Roger9 Self awareness is a concept, not a physical substance, if you mean that. 22:08 Raven262 You can't really think you are a simple machine, can you? 22:08 Roger9 No, I'm a complicated machine. 22:09 Raven262 Same. 22:09 Raven262 It doesn't really matter, you do know what you are. How? 22:10 Roger9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain 22:10 Raven262 I don't have one of those. 22:10 Raven262 In my collection, I mean. 22:11 Roger9 We all have one in our head, though. 22:11 Roger9 We most likely first found that out, ages ago, by examining corpses. 22:13 Raven262 Its interesting though, not long ago I would easily accept the fact that we are actually only complex machines. Its getting harder to think that way more the time flows. 22:14 Raven262 Hmm, thats getting offtopic. 22:14 Raven262 ...and then, there is minetest. 22:14 sfan5 have you tested some mines today? 22:14 Raven262 Some, you? 22:14 sfan5 none 22:14 Roger9 Not really. 22:16 Krock oh yes! let's go on an adventure, my princess! 22:17 Raven262 Well, that escalated quickly. 22:18 Raven262 I'm kind of terrified by the absence of unicorns here though. 22:21 * Roger9 generates a unicorn 22:23 Donbatman https://twitter.com/farfadet46/status/716324617506398208 22:24 Raven262 Damn, now I am terrified. 22:25 Krock https://pastebin.com/raw/KMtWnkiG 22:25 Krock ^ Roger9, no need to generate one. here's it. 22:26 Raven262 :) 22:27 Roger9 lol 22:27 Roger9 I'm once again fiddling with the MATE panel system. 22:34 Fixer to make invisible protectors just make a tool that by right or left clicking changes protector textures to invisible ;) 22:34 Fixer it is possible in 2017 minetest, right? right??767 22:35 Raven262 The markers are a better option IMO 22:35 Roger9 Right??767. 22:39 Fixer simple protection / landrush is better option 22:39 Fixer very build friendly 22:39 Fixer no hassle 22:39 Fixer no flying crap 22:39 Fixer you get 16x16x1XX area 22:39 Fixer server is divided in 16x16 chunks basicly 22:40 paramat per-mapblock protection, much better 22:40 Fixer this system is used on Landrush/LibertyLand/Fozland and is very good 22:40 Fixer proven itself 22:40 Fixer yet very few servers use it 22:40 Fixer they end up with protectors clogging up everything, sometimes in ridiculous ways 22:40 paramat protector nodes are crude and ugly 22:41 Raven262 ^ 22:41 Raven262 This is exactly what i thought 22:42 Raven262 There are protection mods that don't require protector nodes. 22:42 Fixer paramat: landrush protection is pretty much that (it should use mapchunks but i'm not sure, it uses more of vertical space too) 22:42 Fixer i'm tired of those protectors everywhere 22:42 Fixer it is good mod 22:42 Fixer but 22:42 Fixer not for OCD people 22:42 Fixer not for building 22:43 Fixer for survival? probably 22:43 Fixer you need to incorporate those protectors into your house and it is big pain in the ASS 22:43 Fixer or worse 22:43 Fixer into landscape 22:43 Raven262 They made a lighter version where the protection node looks like a lock. 22:43 Fixer horro 22:43 Fixer r 22:44 Raven262 But same thing still. 22:44 Fixer yeah, still, good luck building anything bigger then simple house with protectors 22:44 Raven262 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7239 this one though is nice 22:44 Raven262 With the markers mod, it makes a better alternative. 22:45 Raven262 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124128 22:46 Donbatman With mysoundblocks I made them hidden with a chat command to show them again 22:46 Donbatman https://github.com/minetest-mods/mysoundblocks/blob/master/init.lua#L149 22:47 Donbatman Protection blocks could do the same 22:55 Shara Built using protectors: http://rc.minetest.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Cap_Palace.png 22:55 Shara I don't think that was really luck. 22:55 Shara Inside is quite nicely decorated too 22:56 Donbatman cool 22:56 Shara Was built by a player who wanted to make something for me. 22:56 Shara I didn't know he was building it until it was finished :) 22:57 Donbatman You have your players wrapped around your little finger 22:57 Shara Protectors certainly have some problems, but it's completely possible to build nice things with a little planning 23:00 Shara Fixer: is landrush protection mod even maintained? I tried to find info on it before and it just didn't seem that great really. 23:00 Shara No flexibility 23:01 Fixer Shara: there is one by brandonreese, and there is fork by Krock (simple protection), mod has proved itself (work on few big servers for years) 23:01 Shara But seems like it has strict limits in terms of height of protections 23:01 Shara And that's kind of useless to me 23:04 Shara Krock's mod looks a bit better 23:05 Shara But looks like no underground protections? 23:05 Shara These mods feel like they are great for city-building type servers 23:05 Shara But not everyone wants to be forced to a nice neat grid 23:27 Fixer Shara: you can customise it 23:27 Fixer Shara: you can claim all height 23:28 Shara And what if players make flats and want to give floors to different people? 23:28 Shara It doesn't work 23:33 Fixer iirc sharing is possible 23:34 Shara I didn't meanf or sharing. 23:34 Shara for* 23:34 Shara One person makes a big building then gives fllors to different people, who just get that floor. I've seen it done often. 23:34 Shara floors* 23:34 Donbatman Or apartments 23:41 Fixer Shara: i don't think it is possible, iirc there is separate mod for appartments 23:41 Shara areas and protectors work 23:42 Fixer in what sense? 23:42 Shara But I'm just pointing this out to show you why you can't say one specifc mod is perfect and others are automatically bad 23:42 Fixer i don't remember such feature 23:42 Fixer i have not said that, but in my experience, it is much easier to build with landrush mod 23:42 Shara You don't need a feature. They work simply because they are not limited to specific sized areas in this way. Placement is more flexible 23:43 Shara It's a bit more tricky with protectors than with areas, but even then it can be done 23:43 Roger9 Using the wrong type of text hinting (wrong subpixel order) looks really weird. The text looks just sliiiightly out of focus. 23:44 Roger9 Having no subpixel hinting on text achieves a similar, albeit slightly weaker, effect. 23:44 Roger9 Well, by that I mean "having no subpixel tinting". 23:46 Calinou I now use this on Windows, btw: https://github.com/snowie2000/mactype 23:47 Calinou smoother font rendering :) it's updated for Windows 10, I didn't use it for a while 23:49 Roger9 A better solution would be "don't use Windows". 23:49 Raven262 ^ 23:49 Raven262 Except when you have to play Skyrim. You do need windows for that. 23:50 Roger9 That's no excuse - I recently gave up Roblox so I wouldn't have to use a terrible OS every day.