Time Nick Message 01:00 Calinou happy DST! :D 01:20 VanessaE LazyJ: actually, that's my late husband's hand, not mine. 01:21 * LazyJ is getting forgetful and senile. 01:23 VanessaE (we went with his hand because it was more gnarled and beat-up than mine. 01:23 VanessaE (and yeah, the extrusion "stripes" on the right look ugly. can't fix. 01:23 VanessaE ) 01:24 benrob0329 If I let my hand's go without lotion in the winter, they'll look pretty bad :P 01:25 benrob0329 if we had animations (like frames to be gone through as you punch) we could fix some of the issues 01:26 benrob0329 (like having a gun shoot, or a fist punch) 09:16 Raven262 !ping 09:16 ShadowBot pong 09:16 Raven262 !c 3 + 8 09:16 ShadowBot Raven262: math calc 09:17 Raven262 !c 3+8 09:17 ShadowBot Raven262: math calc 09:17 Raven262 Odd 09:19 Krock Raven262, MTB isn't here. SB likes another command format: 09:19 Krock ~math calc 2 + 5 09:19 ShadowBot Krock: 7 09:19 Krock now that's odd. 09:20 Raven262 So thats how it works 09:20 Raven262 ~math calc 3 ^ 8 09:20 ShadowBot Raven262: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. 09:20 Raven262 ~math calc 3 * 8 09:20 ShadowBot Raven262: 24 09:20 Raven262 ~math calc 3 ** 8 09:20 ShadowBot Raven262: 6561 09:20 Raven262 Ah. 09:21 Krock ~math calc ln(20 + 31 ** (1/3)) 09:21 ShadowBot Krock: Error: 'ln' is not a defined function. 09:22 Krock ~math calc math.log(20 + 31 ** (1/3)) 09:22 ShadowBot Krock: Error: 'math' is not a defined function. 09:23 Raven262 ~math calc 3 ** (1/2) 09:23 ShadowBot Raven262: 1.7320508075688772 09:23 Raven262 ~math calc -1 ** (1/2) 09:23 ShadowBot Raven262: -1 09:25 nerzhul !c 7589 ** 447778899554 09:25 ShadowBot nerzhul: math calc 09:26 nerzhul ~math calc 7589 ** 447778899554 09:26 ShadowBot nerzhul: Error: The answer exceeded 1.7976931348623157e+308 or so. 09:26 nerzhul ~math calc 0 / 0 09:26 ShadowBot nerzhul: Error: float division by zero 09:26 nerzhul ~math calc 789 ** 998753 / 0 09:26 ShadowBot nerzhul: Error: The answer exceeded 1.7976931348623157e+308 or so. 09:26 nerzhul WRONG 09:27 Krock ~math calc log(20 + 31 ** (1/3)) 09:27 ShadowBot Krock: 3.141622385171088 09:29 Raven262 ~math calc 1/0 09:29 ShadowBot Raven262: Error: float division by zero 09:30 Raven262 ~math calc 6 ** 3/0 09:30 ShadowBot Raven262: Error: float division by zero 09:30 Krock * #minetest-hub is now know as #minetest-shadowbot-testing 09:31 Krock ~math calc log(0) 09:31 ShadowBot Krock: Error: math domain error 09:31 Krock ah, too bad. 09:33 Raven262 ~math calc (-1 ** (1/2)) ** 2 09:33 ShadowBot Raven262: 1 09:33 Raven262 Well, this contradicts the first one. 09:33 Raven262 ~math calc -1 ** (1/2) 09:33 ShadowBot Raven262: -1 09:33 Raven262 Or not 09:34 Krock ~math calc (-1) ** (1/2) 09:34 ShadowBot Krock: i 09:35 Krock FTFY 09:35 Raven262 Ahhhhh 09:35 Raven262 Forgot a bracket, heh 09:35 Krock but I'm surprised that ShadowBot/python knows about imaginary numbers 09:36 Krock s/imaginary/complex/ 09:36 Raven262 Last time i checked it didn't. 09:36 Krock maybe it's bluffing 09:37 Raven262 ~math calc ((-1) ** (1/2)) ** 4 09:37 ShadowBot Raven262: 1 09:37 Raven262 ~math calc ((-1) ** (1/2)) ** 3 09:37 Krock ~math calc 1 / (2 * pi * sqrt(-1)) 09:37 ShadowBot Krock: -0.15915494309189535i 09:37 ShadowBot Raven262: -i 09:37 Raven262 Nope, it knows. 09:38 Krock heh, not bad :3 11:25 Krock well done, programmers. https://i.redd.it/qnbomgmlgnuz.jpg 11:30 Raven262 *insert relevant xkcd* 11:31 Fixer i still have those so called 3icons o 11:32 Fixer i still have those so called 3'5 icons on my shelf* 11:32 Fixer 3.5"* 11:32 Fixer 3,5"** 12:21 Megaf There's Microsoft Edge for Android npw 12:21 Krock Internet Explorer, the 2nd generation 12:29 Megaf https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.emmx 12:29 Megaf Microsoft Edge for Android ^ 12:30 Megaf They must be really desperate to get more adopters in the desktop 12:51 Fixer Megaf: does it have AD BLOCK? 12:53 Krock not sure but it has telemetry! 12:58 Megaf 5 letters nicknames are for the greatest only. However, only if starts with a capital letter 12:59 ThomasMonroe :O, what about my other Nick? 12:59 Megaf Fixer, Krock, Megaf, Shara, all good geeks :P 12:59 Megaf Tre, is your name actually Thomas Monroe? 13:00 Tre to an extent yes 13:01 Megaf Tre, theres's two letters missing from this name... 13:01 Tre your's or mine? 13:02 Megaf [Off topic, very off topic] <- If you are Christian you might want to join #Jesus [/end of Off Topic] 13:02 Megaf Dont want to convert anyone, it's just public information 13:02 Megaf ThomasMonroe, I like "ThomasMonroe" nick 13:03 Megaf or any well written nick using capitals 13:03 ThomasMonroe the other one I made was: TMcSquared 13:03 Megaf That'd be too "messy" for me 13:04 Megaf messy is a terrible choice of word for that by the way 13:04 Megaf TMcSquared is not smooth... 13:04 Megaf the angles are too sharp 13:04 Megaf that's what I mean 13:04 ThomasMonroe ah ok, well I like it bcs it uses my initials and it is a variation of E=mc^2 13:04 ThomasMonroe yeah I see where you're coming from 13:05 Megaf E=MxC² 13:05 ThomasMonroe E=m*c^2 13:05 Megaf not sure about the capitals, just wanted to write ² 13:05 ThomasMonroe X) 13:05 Megaf alt gr + shift + 2 13:11 Megaf I'm quite curious about Edge on Android 13:11 Megaf I think I will install it 13:12 Megaf lol, it wants to read my SMS, location and contacts 13:12 ThomasMonroe lol 13:12 Calinou Firefox on Android is still the only one which can block all ads/trackers without root 13:12 Megaf of course, I have Skype already reading all my data... 13:13 Megaf Calinou, I have Firefox Nightly on Android 13:13 Calinou it's slower than the competition, but I prefer slow ad-free browsing to fast browsing with ads 13:13 Calinou me too 13:13 ThomasMonroe Calinou I accidentally left the Minetest team, could you send me an invite again? 13:14 Calinou ThomasMonroe: can't you request an invite again? 13:16 Megaf DuckDuckGo, Firefox Nightly and Google Chrome are the browsers I have now 13:16 Megaf on my phone 13:16 Megaf Used to use Opera Mini and Opera a lot 13:16 Megaf that is, the Opera "Classic* 13:16 Megaf before they got bloated with ads and adnotifications 13:17 Megaf Opera Mini now a days it's as slow as Firefox on my phone 13:18 Calinou Opera Mini lacks a ton of HTML5 support features 13:18 Calinou just look at caniuse, it's depressing 13:19 ThomasMonroe hmm it says I am already on the team, but I don't know if I am in it on your end 13:20 Megaf Microsoft Edge on my Android phone https://imgur.com/gallery/qgybB 13:23 Calinou yeah, The Edge is better :P 13:35 Calinou https://media.hugo.pro/xonotic20171029142600-00.png 13:35 Calinou professional Xonotic deathmatching 13:35 Calinou heh, I just noticed the PNG screenshots Xonotic takes are progressive 13:38 Megaf Calinou, slightly addicted you are, are you not? 13:39 Megaf Calinou, don't you prefer UT2004? 13:39 Megaf for me UT 2004 is one of the best games ever 13:41 Megaf Calinou, If I do apt search xonotic the package manager says... 13:42 Megaf "darkplaces/testing,unstable,unstable 0~20140513+svn12208-5 amd64 13:42 Megaf Game engine for Quake and similar 3D first person shooter games 13:42 Megaf " 13:42 Megaf darkplaces? 13:43 Megaf anyway, isntalling Nexuiz 13:44 * jas_ shudders 13:44 jas_ i liked xonotic alright, i got a kick outta the vehicles 13:46 jas_ and saw some great matches during some online tourney 13:46 jas_ (duel.) 13:48 Fixer on android - use firefox + ublock origin 13:48 jas_ i don't believe i ever once tried unreal, probably avoided it heavily 13:49 Calinou Megaf: I only played a bit of UT2004 13:49 Calinou also, Xonotic is cool :p 13:49 Calinou Megaf: Xonotic isn't in Debian packages because of politics :P 13:49 Calinou so you gotta download from xonotic.org 13:49 jas_ still active i take it? mmm, xonotic. i love quake and i played qtest in 95, but i prefer idtech3 13:50 * jas_ looks down at quake3 t-shirt current on 13:50 jas_ yep 13:50 jas_ i quit video games when quake2 came out, though. and didn't played quake3 until quakelive beta was available for linux 14:00 Calinou I wasn't born in 1995 :P 14:00 Calinou I never played QTest 14:01 Calinou I'd get a Quake tshirt if I found one that wasn't too expensive 14:01 Calinou jas_: QL no longer supports Linux natively :( 14:01 Calinou it works OK on WINE 14:02 Calinou but sound quality is worse, and sound latency is higher, for some reason 14:07 jas_ as you know, lag kills quake 14:07 jas_ it was pretty bad when i last tested, not playable imo. i forget what, but it was frustrating. probably input lag. 14:07 jas_ i have a couple of them, they were gifts 14:09 jas_ or, lag at least kills duels. spikes, i mean, or jitters. i can do 50-100 ms net lag alright 14:09 IhrFussel Regarding ad-block on Android: There are many browser that can block any kind of ads on websites... I personally use XBrowser 14:10 IhrFussel It's very small, lightweight an fast 14:10 IhrFussel and* 14:10 IhrFussel I don't care about all those features the big browsers offer on phone...it just makes them extremely fat (15+ MB) 14:12 Krock wget and read the source code. No rendering cost 14:13 Calinou jas_: I've always had more input lag/stuttering on Linux, compared to Windows :( 14:14 Calinou also I couldn't disable mouse acceleration entirely on Manjaro KDE 14:14 Calinou (I never understood why) 14:14 jas_ not me, i used a custom kernel and a flat profile when that was introduced, and before that zero accel anyway (not counting the hardware in the mouse) 14:14 jas_ you can use a "flat" profile in xorg now 14:15 jas_ and i would do straight quakelive, not a window manager or at least openbox 14:15 Calinou "xset m 0 0" didn't work for me 14:16 Calinou I can't live without compositing now :( 14:16 Calinou desktops are really ugly without it 14:16 Calinou unfortunately, that introduces a lot of latency on Linux 14:16 Calinou but on Windows it's fine (compositing cannot be disabled there anymore) 14:19 jas_ well you can have the program take the screen over, which disabled compositing (depending on the software, ezquake does this i believe) 14:19 jas_ i like a little mouse accel 14:20 jas_ i do alt-f11 for fullscreen in gnome. i believe the compositing is disabled when a program is fullscreen, as it feels smoother. dunno tho ; D 14:22 shivajiva Gnome Shell & Cinnamon still have issues with performance. They don't disable compositing and unredirect much of the time unless I'm mistaken 14:22 jas_ it feels that it works in minetest, but i dunno really i have to test 14:22 Calinou compositing suspension doesn't work that well in my experience 14:23 Calinou Xonotic does it, but when you alt-tab away, compositing is still disabled 14:23 jas_ i'm just using this gnome that came with debian 9 :O 14:23 Calinou which makes for a bad desktop experience 14:23 jas_ oh. 14:23 Calinou we've had hype about Linux gaming for 5 years now, and this is still not solved :( 14:23 Calinou ~~Wayland, come save us~~ 14:23 jas_ i dunno, i just ran quakelive on my quakebox and nothing els 14:24 jas_ well when i went to steam i was excited, because of steamos... but it didn't matter, bethesda had no interest 14:25 jas_ i don't know about linux gaming, anymore than a linux desktop 14:25 * jas_ whistles along 14:27 IhrFussel I get the feeling quite a few players are trying to fool me...my server has a "1 account per person" rule and several IPs now have new accounts stating they are "brother" or "sister" 14:28 Krock >= two children per family aren't that rare 14:28 IhrFussel Really not easy to enforce such a rule with MT's auth system 14:29 IhrFussel Yes but some players now suddenly have siblings apparently...after months 15:16 Fixer Calinou: Wayland: I will save you in next 10 years, I promise 16:05 benrob0329 Fixer: Wayland: I'll leave out what was good about my predecessor but make the same mistakes 17:10 Megaf Will totally buy a "new" Motorola Razr V3 as soon as start working again. 17:10 Megaf https://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15&_nkw=%22motorola%20razr%22&_dcat=9355&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=1000%7C1500%7C2000&Model=Motorola%2520RAZR%2520V3%7CMotorola%2520RAZR%2520V3i 17:11 Megaf Maybe a green one, or Pink, or Purple 17:11 Megaf Purple 17:11 Megaf http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Motorola-Razr-V3-Factory-Unlock-Classic-Retro-Flip-Cellular-Phone-9-colors/272481714034?hash=item3f712cff72:m:mNeia5GMW2POwRWDkCzkDow 17:11 Megaf look at that! 17:13 benrob0329 Megaf: do those things still work? 17:14 benrob0329 I suppose they were after the digital switchover..but dang they are old at this point 17:14 Megaf they still work yep 17:14 Megaf they support GPRS 17:14 Megaf and they are Quadband, that means it will works mostly anywhere 17:15 Megaf I had a V3 Black, with Opera Mini 17:15 Megaf it was just perfect 17:16 benrob0329 If by perfect you mean slow, sure 17:17 Megaf by perfect I mean, works all the time 17:17 Megaf no crashes, no slow downs 17:18 benrob0329 How can you slow down when your processor is already pinned? 17:19 benrob0329 Its going to be 2G, outdated and will have barely enough RAM to load Google 17:20 Megaf As I say to everybody. It all depends on what you want 17:21 Krock Rbwy, swap b and w and you'd be a web animation project 17:21 Rbnwy Megaf, like this? 17:21 Megaf I want several days of battery, I want music, I want to make and receive calls and texts, I want it to be slim and stylish. I want it to work, 100% of the time. 17:21 Rbnwy brb, registering the domain] 17:21 Megaf V3 tickes all boxes 17:22 Shara He wants to be counted among the greatest :) 17:22 rBNWY or like this? 17:22 Shara No comment 17:22 Megaf Rubey would be just optimal 17:22 Krock why not rueay 17:23 benrob0329 Megaf: I don't think you'll be real happy with its music capabilities 17:23 Megaf benrob0329, play, pouse, skip fwd, and back 17:23 Megaf that's it 17:23 benrob0329 Space 17:23 benrob0329 Quality 17:23 Megaf And, it wouldn't be my main phone, of couse 17:23 Megaf course* 17:24 benrob0329 Headphones that arent using a 2.5mm jack 17:24 Megaf I'd have another phone with me 17:24 rubenwardy right, I'm done 17:24 Krock inb4 _xX_Ruben_Xx_ 17:24 benrob0329 Its your money, obviously, but i'm just trying to say its not as blissful as you remember 17:24 Megaf benrob0329, V3i has micro sdcard 17:25 benrob0329 Very well 17:25 Megaf And there was a version that shipped with iTunes... 17:26 benrob0329 Lets not forget SprintTV :-) 17:28 Megaf I'm not sure which phone will be my next main phone tho 17:28 benrob0329 Megaf: I have a Razer sitting in a box in the garage 17:28 benrob0329 Librem 5 ;-) 17:28 Megaf If it was 2014 it'd be some from the line Moto Droid 17:29 Megaf I have a XT890 currently 17:29 Megaf that's the Razr I 17:29 Megaf I just love it's design and durability 17:30 Megaf battery still lasts a day or two. Survived 3 Bike vs car crashes, survived been thrown on purpose to concrete floor, twice 17:30 Megaf Survived getting hit by a car door several times, when trying to close the door with phone hanging in the jacket pocket 17:31 Megaf I had at least 3 nokias and other phones, all died/broken in the same time frame 17:31 Megaf and My XT890 has Intel CPU, is rooter and I can run Debian on it 17:31 Megaf rooted* 17:33 Megaf Maybe I will get a Motorola DROID 4 XT894 17:33 Megaf it has full Querty keyboard and can run Android 7 17:40 Natechip Megaf: ODROID is nice 17:40 Natechip wait 17:40 Natechip wrong topic here nvm 17:41 Megaf Natechip, Agree, I have an ODroid U3 :) 17:42 Natechip Megaf: i still cant set up an os on it! XD 17:44 Megaf Oo 17:44 Natechip its kinda weird 17:44 Megaf you just download the image, dd to the sd card and boot 17:44 Natechip yes but u cant do an iso which stucks 17:45 Megaf of course not, it's not a computer 17:45 Megaf Natechip, and it's not x86 either 17:45 Natechip ik 17:46 Natechip but still 17:46 Natechip i plan on running a minetest server on it maybe 17:46 Megaf whats the odroid you have? 17:47 Megaf Hi Jordach 17:48 Natechip XU4 Megadf 17:48 Natechip Megaf* 17:49 Megaf That's a good one 17:49 Megaf Natechip, you can use the community images from the forum 17:49 Megaf for Debian 17:49 Megaf and other distros 17:49 Megaf or 17:49 Megaf https://www.armbian.com/odroid-xu4/ 17:50 Natechip ubuntu server would be nice 17:50 Natechip ill see if i can find 17:50 Natechip and ya i have the maxed out spec one 17:55 Megaf Natechip, one cool thing to do is getting some XU4s, like 20 or so. And making a build farm with them, to compile software 18:05 Natechip they arelike 50$ us 18:05 Natechip US* 18:05 Natechip that would be $1000 :P 18:06 Natechip im ganna run a mySQL server on one I think, and a data server on a HC1 18:09 Natechip Megaf ^ 18:12 Natechip eh im out 18:26 Megaf Where can I upload a mp3 I just made and have no rights on it? 18:26 Megaf is there a pastebin like thing? 18:27 sfan5 just any file host 18:27 Megaf sfan5, lol, indeed 18:27 Megaf sometimes I forget I have my private git server 18:27 VanessaE dropbox or the like 18:27 VanessaE or git, or torrent 18:28 Megaf Thinking about using this as ringtone http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPaste/raw/master/Hello%20Moto%20New.mp3 18:28 VanessaE soundcloud if you have the legal right to share the file 18:29 Megaf I don't :) 18:30 Megaf I think I dont 18:31 Megaf I extracted the audio from a Motorola ad and converted to mp3 using audacity 18:31 VanessaE depends on how much you used, might be "fair use" or "fair dealing", as your country's laws may apply 18:32 VanessaE (I don't remember where you are) 18:32 Megaf right in the feelings 18:33 Megaf just kidding 18:33 Megaf I'm in Ireland 18:33 Megaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoiHLMgpmJ8 18:33 Megaf that's the video 18:34 Megaf But I'm actually searching for a high quality Hello Moto ringtone 18:37 Megaf maybe this is my next primary phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZOfYo4JDIw 18:39 Megaf Or the new version of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2l7sXhT540 18:43 Megaf Nah, Motorola G5 Plus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DlNrCZFNGo 18:44 Megaf That'd be my main phone 18:48 Megaf Oh, no NFC 18:48 Megaf no way 18:48 Megaf My old Razr I has NFC and Android Pay 18:49 rubenwardy monzo got Android Pay the other day 18:49 rubenwardy was well excited 18:49 Megaf I cant actually use Android Pay, it detects my phone is rooted... 18:51 Megaf Moto X4 looks like a nice phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpXO4d6prj0 18:51 Megaf Too bad all these flagships now a days look the same 18:52 Megaf 2 TB microSD card support, wow 19:09 Megaf I have absolutelly no idea what's my Facebook password 19:09 Megaf I'm not even sure what's my username 19:34 Fixer KILLER FEATURE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6568 19:36 Fixer rubenwardy: how is that conference? 19:36 Krock An support Initial support... 19:36 Krock A Haiku Minetestinto the Haiku, 19:36 Krock Haiku! Haiku again. 19:36 Krock weird haiku generators.. 19:50 rubenwardy Fixer: very good 19:51 rubenwardy The Freenode staff were very nicw 19:51 rubenwardy Much of the visitors too 19:51 rubenwardy That Shara however.... 19:52 Krock Did Shara happened? 19:53 rubenwardy She did 19:54 rubenwardy And has now stolen the phone 19:54 rubenwardy As for that rubenwardy... 19:55 shivajiva lol o/ 19:55 rubenwardy It has been good 22:24 Fixer noice schtoile "The BBC is reporting a security probe after security data about Heathrow was discovered on a USB found on the street" 22:28 nerzhul sfan5, i think linter wants to align \ with max line chars 22:29 sfan5 o.O 22:29 nerzhul it's not crazy but i never see a such thing 22:48 Fixer activity *,,,,* 23:10 benrob0329 Megaf: You can upload files directly to rooms on matrix :P 23:50 Megaf hah 23:51 * benrob0329 uploaded an image: file1509321099353.jpg (164KB) 23:51 benrob0329 See? 23:54 Megaf lol 23:54 Megaf technically it's not uploaded to the room 23:54 benrob0329 It is for matrix 23:54 benrob0329 IRC just gets the link to the file in the room 23:55 sofar rubenwardy: stolen the phone? lol