Time  Nick         Message
00:11 rdococ       oyoo
00:28 rubenwardy   given a set of tiles generated by minetestmapper, how do I make it zoomable and pannable?
00:29 rubenwardy   and load things on demand
09:04 tenplus1     hi folks
09:05 Raven262     Hi ten
09:05 tenplus1     hi raven o/
09:06 Calinou      hi
09:06 Calinou      just got back from my driving exam (2nd try)
09:06 Calinou      I didn't do any mistake
09:06 Calinou      any big mistake
09:06 tenplus1     did ya pass ?
09:06 Calinou      I'll know in a few days
09:06 tenplus1     <fingers crossed> :) also hiiiii
09:10 Raven262     Hi Calinou
09:12 Raven262     tenplus1, my mod is almost finished.
09:12 Raven262     Just need to do the crafting recipes and items now.
09:13 tenplus1     sweet :P
09:14 Raven262     Ah, you don't know what the mod is about yet.
09:14 Raven262     GOtta keep that secret for now
09:14 Raven262     *o
09:16 tenplus1     https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1902
09:17 Raven262     that will be epic^
09:17 tenplus1     I hope so...  it will save many mods a lot of work, and add a new on_walk_over function for nodes to do special tasks
09:18 tenplus1     lets see what the devs think :P
09:22 tenplus1     wb tommy
09:28 Calinou      heh, I can't download Manjaro ISOs because SourceForge has 500 errors on project pages
09:28 Calinou      https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files
09:28 tenplus1     oof, what's up with sourceforge lately ?!?!?!
09:28 Calinou      even the homepage https://sourceforge.net/
09:28 tenplus1     try distrowatch.org cal
10:06 Calinou      setting up my local web server a bit… I created subdomains for each site, since it makes it easier to avoid URL errors
10:06 Calinou      (and makes browsers remember logins per-site, since the domains are different)
10:06 Calinou      eg. I have wordpress.dev set to 127.0.0.1 in my hosts file
10:06 tenplus1     ooh handy...
10:08 tenplus1     lol, the iPhone X and iOS 11 is getting blasted online... so many issues
10:14 tenplus1     hi Krock
10:14 Krock        hello tenplus1
10:14 Krock        someone please pinch me. Can't believe that Star Trek is finally back
10:14 tenplus1     its ok, nothing great
10:15 tenplus1     am pissed they changed the klingons tho
10:15 Krock        mhm.. new timeline
10:16 tenplus1     it takes place after Enterprise supposidly ? no
10:16 shivajiva    huh are they rewiting history to suit, again
10:17 tenplus1     hi shiva.... no, they are continuing the series after "Enterprise" and before the original 60's series
10:17 tenplus1     gap filler :P
10:18 shivajiva    so have they dropped quantum enterprise leap now?
10:18 tenplus1     they've gone from this: http://www.treknews.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/star-trek-discovery-klingons-750x480.jpg ... to this: http://media.comicbook.com/2017/06/star-trek-discovery-klingons-1002567-1280x0.jpg
10:18 tenplus1     why do they break things soooo....  *shakes fist*
10:21 tenplus1     brb, making noms
10:22 shivajiva    okay, they messed up bad, the klingons were quite normal in the original, we have an explanation of mutation for the change in appearance for later stuff, someone forgot the plot it seems
10:23 tenplus1     yup...  continuity is messed up now... and this isnt even an alternate universe
10:24 tenplus1     hi fixer
10:24 shivajiva    whatever brings the dollars in, that's what counts
10:25 Krock        shivajiva, now there are two mutations :<
10:27 tenplus1     hi paramat
10:29 shivajiva    Krock: you can't ask me to accept they mutated to homogeneous humans and back to ugly :P
10:29 tenplus1     also it messes up the klingons in later series that are half human...
10:31 shivajiva    I say bring back DS9 :P
10:32 tenplus1     heh... i liked ds9 :)
10:32 shivajiva    Quark was brilliant
10:32 tenplus1     yeah, and that ep. where his nephew took some crap he gave him and made a fortuine :PPPPPP
10:32 tenplus1     space soap opera :D
10:33 shivajiva    might have had the hots for curzon dax at one point, something about those spots xD
10:33 tenplus1     ehehehe
10:34 tenplus1     the docs assistant was cute,
10:37 shivajiva    who was that, Kira?
10:38 tenplus1     yeah
10:38 shivajiva    :)
10:38 tenplus1     although she did get into a lot of trouble :P
10:40 shivajiva    did you watch Farscape?
10:40 tenplus1     oh yeah :) farscape was great... andromeda also
10:41 tenplus1     *cough* firefly
10:41 shivajiva    andromeda is soooooo cheesey
10:41 tenplus1     definitely... it was a funny scifi... especially the ep. where he found his herculese wig and sword in one of hte ships holds :D
10:41 shivajiva    was Farscape before or after Trinity in the matrix?
10:42 shivajiva    trying to pin down the leather catsuit look
10:42 tenplus1     before
10:43 shivajiva    so they did copy the look
10:44 tenplus1     I miss the old scifi shows, they never took themselves seriously
10:44 shivajiva    shame they ran out of money for the series but it meant we got a movie instead :)
10:46 tenplus1     firefly was great, and the serenity movie was pretty good, least we got an ending
10:46 shivajiva    did you get chance to test sban, ten?
10:47 tenplus1     been playing with it on standalone server :) it's a good tool for use...  made TenPlus1 to TenPlus20 and banned myself...
10:47 tenplus1     ehehe
10:48 shivajiva    with sqlitestudio or similar you can alter the data whilst mt is offline and try different scenarios
10:50 shivajiva    I found a few more logic bugs but it's getting so I can't see the wood for the trees
10:50 tenplus1     what did you find ?
10:51 shivajiva    added the ability to unban from any username for the id and it will find the correct record
10:51 shivajiva    counter increment outside a conditional was one
10:51 shivajiva    caused record numbers to skip on import
10:52 shivajiva    I'll get it up on github so more people can test it and report issues
10:53 tenplus1     good idea
10:53 tenplus1     speaking of which: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1902  tidied code
10:55 shivajiva    sounds interesting but what can I do with it?
10:56 tenplus1     mods like playerplus, 3d_armor and ambiance all get the same nodes to check environment around player to do specific things
10:56 shivajiva    so it caches for speed
10:56 tenplus1     with the player_api doing it once only it will speed up the game by sharing it's information
10:56 shivajiva    :)
10:56 tenplus1     also on_walk_over function for nodes will allow you to do manyt things like footsteps, custom node functions etc
10:57 tenplus1     that in itself will save quite a few Abm's from running or nodetimers as well
10:57 tenplus1     so <fingers crossed> this one change will smooth out gameplay and lower lag a tad on server
10:58 shivajiva    cool, I'm all for that
10:58 tenplus1     :)
11:00 tenplus1     add your +1 to the gitpage :) would be most welcome
11:01 CWz          sban?
11:01 tenplus1     hi CWz
11:02 tenplus1     sban is shiva's new mod, it's pretty good :)
11:02 CWz          link?
11:02 CWz          is it like xban?
11:02 tenplus1     better
11:03 CWz          may link get I?
11:03 tenplus1     he's uploading now to git :)
11:03 CWz          k
11:03 CWz          what can it do that xban can't
11:03 tenplus1     uses proper databases for player storage.settings
11:04 * tenplus1   awaits documentation :DDD
11:06 CWz          can it ban subnets and ips a swell as only ban certain usersnames from said ip?
11:07 tenplus1     not sure about subnets, you'd have to ask shiva about tha tone
11:07 tenplus1     *that one
11:10 shivajiva    I have considered it CWz, currently it is fixed around a full ip but it shouldn't be difficult to expand it to subnets
11:11 shivajiva    also banning a single name in a group isn't possible, seems futile as they will just use another of their accounts
11:13 shivajiva    I can code the behaviour but I don't see the point
11:13 tenplus1     do we really want it that complicated ?
11:14 CWz          actually i was thinking about ipbanning with username exceptions incase of family members
11:14 CWz          xban has it
11:14 shivajiva    it adds autoban management, full player records with a display limit, ability to ban unknown ip's or names
11:14 tenplus1     that's why I use /limit command
11:14 shivajiva    it has a whitelist CWz
11:15 CWz          cool
11:15 shivajiva    it has all the features you know in xban2 and a few more ;)
11:17 shivajiva    you need ban_admin to see player IP's otherwise the record display omits them, you cannot see records for players with server priv unless you also have server priv
11:17 CWz          coool
11:18 tenplus1     :( game pull #1902 has been shot down already
11:18 shivajiva    only the whitelist is in memory, everything else is pulled as a record removing the overhead of the table in memory
11:19 shivajiva    no global functions exposed
11:19 tenplus1     hi Jordach
11:20 shivajiva    it's not all bad 10, you may have instigated it's addition to in the core
11:21 shivajiva    -in
11:21 shivajiva    o/
11:21 tenplus1     but in my comment to paramat, who's gonna do it ??
11:22 tenplus1     I dont know enough about c++ and everyone else is busy with their own thing
11:22 paramat      i will if i can work oout how
11:22 shivajiva    tell me about it
11:22 paramat      *out
11:22 tenplus1     it'll be like the line_of_sight pull for airlike nodes that just sits there
11:23 tenplus1     hi paramat...  it may not sound it, but this is a very handy feature, especially for modders to save on lag times
11:23 paramat      i know it is
11:23 shivajiva    if I could code the client prediction/ server reconciliation for movement I would have and put that farce to bed myself
11:23 tenplus1     and we already know how many times the engine gets nodes around player to check for many things,
11:24 paramat      i was actually already thinking about adding an 'on walk over' callback in the engine
11:24 tenplus1     sweet
11:24 tenplus1     footsteps mod and of course trap sand, pressure plates and cactus' that hurt
11:25 paramat      i'll put it on my todo list
11:25 tenplus1     thanks dude...
11:25 paramat      it will work much better done in core
11:25 tenplus1     the head, foot, standing level nodes list per player will be a great addition
11:26 * shivajiva  imagines paramat's list wrapped around the outside of his house, it's so big
11:26 tenplus1     hehehe yeah
11:26 paramat      not sure about head though, lower priority
11:26 tenplus1     another reason I'm trying to learn c++ .. so i can write my own engine pulls
11:27 tenplus1     there's already getnodes for head in engine, this just stores it for use...  e.g.  ambiance, underwater sounds when head submerged
11:27 shivajiva    so when you going to take up coding in C...lol got my answer before even asking
11:27 tenplus1     it's important
11:27 paramat      my todo list has 17 tasks
11:28 tenplus1     dare I ask what the are /
11:28 shivajiva    wow that's shorter than the list my wife has for me
11:28 tenplus1     hah
11:29 tenplus1     shiva, here's the line of sight change https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls/tenplus1
11:30 paramat      too many to list here, but most are mentioned in github discussions
11:32 tenplus1     krock, could I borrow your talent for resolving conflicts on https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5762
11:34 Krock        "talent"
11:34 tenplus1     yeah, your git talent
11:35 Krock        k
11:35 tenplus1     :)
11:35 tenplus1     thanks dude
11:37 paramat      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/247 5 years old request *sigh*
11:38 tenplus1     OMG, it's that old ????
11:38 * tenplus1   thumbed it up
11:38 tenplus1     eegege
11:39 tenplus1     jesus, I stated the exact same NODE get's in that post/pull also all those years back
11:40 tenplus1     well, 2016... hah
11:40 tenplus1     for a PULL all those years back :D
11:41 Krock        using https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6458 , this feature could be implemented in C++ side
11:41 Krock        at least for the standing node position
11:42 tenplus1     so it only lets you jump when standing on a solid node ?
11:42 shivajiva    seems like this has been in the loop forever
11:42 tenplus1     wb thomas
11:42 ThomasMonroe hey ten
11:42 shivajiva    o/
11:42 ThomasMonroe hi shiva
11:42 tenplus1     Krock: does this address the no_jump group when in liquids also ? no swimming upwards ?
11:43 shivajiva    Hi TM, I noted MMS is still down
11:43 * CWz        is going to replace xban with sban
11:43 tenplus1     :P
11:44 CWz          one i get link that is
11:44 Krock        tenplus1, no, jumping is for solid nodes
11:44 shivajiva    I'll give you the link soon as I upload it CWz
11:44 tenplus1     0.5.0 will be a very interesting release if allthis gets included :))) *eager*
11:45 rubenwardy   need to get as much cool features as possible, to encourage server owners to update
11:45 tenplus1     o/ ruben
11:45 tenplus1     you dont have to ask me twice, Xanadu will be updating on release
11:46 tenplus1     0.5.0 is a new base level where all mods should be built from
11:46 paramat      getting the standing node pos from the engine is no help because you would still have to do 'get node' in lua
11:47 tenplus1     ?
11:47 nerzhul      Krock, how can i test #6458 ?
11:47 Fixer        hello
11:47 tenplus1     paramat: is this for my feature or krocks ?
11:47 tenplus1     hi nrz
11:47 paramat      krock's
11:47 tenplus1     hi fixer
11:48 nerzhul      hi tenplus1
11:48 Krock        nerzhul, old binary and new binary. Add the disable_jump group to a slab and to a full node
11:48 nerzhul      after finishing my network PoC, and (if valid) published the PR i think i will do some client profiling on dgdc server as my FPS are low
11:49 Krock        if you sneak and jump on them, you'll see the difference between the wto versions
11:49 nerzhul      distance ?
11:49 Krock        works well if you set dirt_with_grass to disable_jump=1 and place a slab on it, where you want to jump on afterwards
11:49 tenplus1     so you ca only jump on a solid node when actually standing on the node, not floating
11:50 tenplus1     wb caleb
11:50 CalebDavis   thx
11:50 nerzhul      i don't understand the real problem ? the disable_jump is not working ? sorry i ask questions, i'm at work and i don't get time to compile both version to compare :)
11:50 nerzhul      code is good for me
11:50 nerzhul      i just need to understand what is the problem
11:50 Krock        nerzhul, see the linked issue. Wuzzy described the misbehaviour there
11:51 nerzhul      ok the problem is the getStandingNodePos accuracy
11:51 Krock        the sneak part itself is not an actual problem anymore due recent changes in the sneak code
11:51 Krock        yes. because you can stand on a node while actually being below another position
11:52 Krock        (large player collision box)
11:52 Krock        s/below/above
11:52 Fixer        i'm really glad sneak was sorted out (more or less)
11:52 tenplus1     :P
11:53 nerzhul      code seems okay to me
11:54 tenplus1     would be nice if disable_jump in liquids would also stop you swimming upwards...  quicksand dont ya know :P
11:56 CalebDavis   or MC-like cobwebs
11:57 tenplus1     yeah :) mob cobwebs really slow player down, but you can swim up out of them...
11:59 Krock        rubenwardy, congrats for your rank-up ^^
11:59 rubenwardy   thanks
11:59 tenplus1     rank up?
11:59 rubenwardy   I was doing my morning forum read today
11:59 Krock        yellowish font looks quite unusual, that's why I noticed it in first instance :P
11:59 rubenwardy   and saw loads more buttons
12:00 tenplus1     ooh. forum dev
12:00 rubenwardy   tenplus1, I'm now a moderator
12:00 tenplus1     schweet :) congrats
12:00 ThomasMonroe shivajiva: yeah its kind of complicated, the auth.txt was completely blank after the maintenance got done
12:00 Krock        I hope you enjoy deleting and locking shitpost topics :P
12:01 shivajiva    ouch TH :/
12:01 shivajiva    congrats ruben
12:02 ThomasMonroe yeah i think im going to go ahead with Legends Of Survival and take MM down, as was planned already
12:03 tenplus1     how's legends coming along thomas ?
12:04 ThomasMonroe actually its not up yet, im going to have sc3k host it instead of ManElevation, bcs idk if i can control the server well with him being the host
12:04 tenplus1     ah, hope it goes to plan dude
12:04 ThomasMonroe it should be up in the next couple of weeks though
12:05 tenplus1     did you add anymore survival changes?#
12:05 ThomasMonroe im going to see ifi can enlist TommyTreasure to help build spawn
12:05 ThomasMonroe not much
12:05 tenplus1     lol, spawn should be a tree with instructiong telling players to get on with it and survive :) ahahahaha
12:06 ThomasMonroe actually that's not very far from what i had planned
12:06 tenplus1     ooh, a world tree :)
12:06 ThomasMonroe i was going to do a giant tree house
12:06 tenplus1     nice :D
12:08 ThomasMonroe maybe even do ethereal
12:09 tenplus1     heh :)
12:09 CalebDavis   then makt the treehouse in a redwood
12:09 CalebDavis   make^
12:09 ThomasMonroe XD
12:09 ThomasMonroe possibly
12:10 tenplus1     I was thinking of making ethereal into a realm for floatlands for the weirder biomes and slip in the normal one's alongside default
12:10 ThomasMonroe nice
12:10 tenplus1     kinda like mc's Aether mod
12:11 ThomasMonroe i actually havent seen that one
12:11 ThomasMonroe i had the idea to make a bedwars mod, but i quit XD
12:11 tenplus1     bedwars ?
12:12 ThomasMonroe i dont particularly like modding in minetest for some reason
12:12 ThomasMonroe you srsly dont know what bedwars is?
12:12 tenplus1     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmwBVnERWKc Aether 2
12:14 tenplus1     I watched a youtube about bedwars, jsut looks like players attacking each other
12:18 ThomasMonroe watch one that preston playz puts out
12:18 ThomasMonroe that explains it pretty well
12:18 tenplus1     kewl thanks, got it queued for after I watch this darkmatter vid
12:19 tenplus1     it was YogsCast that got me excited about Lucky Blocks... those vids were so funny I had to add it to minetest :D
12:34 shivajiva    https://github.com/shivajiva101/sban
12:34 tenplus1     w000t!
12:35 Krock        Usage: /ban <name_or_ip>
12:35 Krock        Example: /ban Steve Some reason.
12:35 Krock        either one of them is incomplete or wrong
12:36 shivajiva    oops :)
12:36 Krock        same for /unban
12:36 Krock        the example doesn't need a reason, dose it?
12:37 shivajiva    eh Usage: /ban <name_or_ip> <reason>
12:37 Krock        yes
12:38 shivajiva    that's what it states
12:39 shivajiva    so the example does need a reason
12:39 Krock        also for the /unban command?
12:39 shivajiva    same as unban, it needs a reason
12:40 Krock        oh. that's special. okay :)
12:40 Krock        a GUI would have potential here to manage all the bans, but that's perhaps too early to request
12:41 shivajiva    whitelist param match is screwed, only fault I can see
12:41 tenplus1     back in a bit
12:41 shivajiva    a gui????!!!!
12:41 shivajiva    when formspec is safe let me know :P
12:43 Krock        formspec == gui, or did I miss something?
12:43 shivajiva    formspec ~= safe or did I miss something
12:45 Krock        yeah, I think so. If the callback explicitly checks for the player's privileges, then it's fine
12:46 shivajiva    obv gui is possible if this floats but I have reservasions about it, jeez I even closed the mod, not a global in sight
12:47 nerzhul      Krock, i validated #6558
12:47 nerzhul      6458*
12:47 shivajiva    *reservations
12:47 Krock        nerzhul, so, works as expected?
12:53 nerzhul      code side it seems good
12:57 shivajiva    Krock, what do I need to add to make the markdown display it properly?
12:57 Krock        rename to .md
12:58 Krock        or what do you mean?
12:58 shivajiva    hmm no I mean the fact it doesn't show <blah> <blah>
12:58 Krock        displays fine here
12:59 shivajiva    you noticed it's in the file just not displayed on the repo page?
13:00 Krock        oh lol. I didn't notice that. Putting inside inline code: ` code here ` might work
13:00 shivajiva    ty
13:04 Raven262     I have released yet another mod! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18562
13:06 Krock        https://i.redd.it/xe5c392ki7mz.jpg
13:07 Krock        came in my mind right after reading "magic and stuff"
13:07 Raven262     EXACTLY
13:07 Raven262     xD
13:07 Raven262     Check the github link really
13:07 Raven262     magic
13:07 Raven262     (I also have no idea how i made it work)
13:08 Krock        license and a nice readme is missing
13:08 Krock        there's nothing like magic. code is logical
13:08 Raven262     Yea, i had to make a repo really fast
13:08 Raven262     Well, to you and me, yea it is
13:09 Raven262     And most of the other people
13:09 Raven262     Damn, i made it up all wrong!
13:09 Raven262     Gotta add a readme and a license
13:12 Raven262     How do i add a license after i have created a repo?
13:15 Krock        you could note it in the readme and add the license file to your repo
13:16 shivajiva    create new file and call it LICENSE
13:16 shivajiva    button appears on the right to select template
13:16 tenplus1     am back
13:16 Raven262     Okay, thanks
13:16 Raven262     wb, tenplus1
13:16 CalebDavis   wb ten
13:16 tenplus1     :) thx
13:16 tenplus1     was testing enlightenment 19
13:17 shivajiva    Krock: had to use ``` blah ```
13:17 Krock        ok
13:17 shivajiva    :)
13:18 Krock        I used ``` in my project too, where I used HTML-like tags but wasn't sure if it didn't work with ``
13:19 shivajiva    but thanks for bringing it to my attention
13:20 tenplus1     edi looked quite interesting:https://www.enlightenment.org/about-edi
13:21 Raven262     Okay, I've managed to add a license. :D
13:22 shivajiva    :)
13:28 tenplus1     what license you using shiva?
13:28 tenplus1     MIT ?
13:28 shivajiva    yes
13:29 tenplus1     kewl
13:29 tenplus1     I kinda wish someone did an e22 version of ubuntu... the enlightenment desktop is really amazing to say the least
13:31 Raven262     Whats this enlightenment you are speaking of?
13:31 Raven262     DE?
13:31 tenplus1     https://www.enlightenment.org/start
13:32 tenplus1     yeah, it's a desktop environment built atop EFI which is a very light manager, has built in compositor and many fancy effects that run even on small spec pc's...
13:32 Raven262     Not bad
13:32 Raven262     Wait, this is lightweight?
13:32 shivajiva    shades of grey with a bit of neon
13:32 tenplus1     the last time I ran it was version 17 and my desktop took up 130mb memory in total
13:33 tenplus1     it's amazingly configurable and you can customize it to be anything you want
13:33 Raven262     Well, it looks good for a lightweight DE
13:33 tenplus1     sadly ubuntu repo's only has e17... so I cant play with latest e22 version :9
13:33 Raven262     And i'm still on KDE, should have made some different choices.
13:34 tenplus1     kde is nice but heavy for me... am looking more towards lxqt and e22 since they wanna move to wayland
13:41 shivajiva    Manjaro KDE for me next I think
13:41 tenplus1     nice... am still on LXDE at the moment...
13:53 benrob0329   Bspwm for me :PP
13:53 tenplus1     heh, ya like your tiling window managers :D
14:04 Bobr2        hello
14:04 tenplus1     hi bob
14:04 Bobr2        hows it going
14:04 tenplus1     not bad ta. you /
14:04 tenplus1     ?
14:04 Bobr2        meh
14:05 tenplus1     ehe, that good
14:05 Bobr2        yeh
14:06 tenplus1     what kinda desktop you running bob ?
14:06 Bobr2        linux
14:06 Bobr2        ubuntu mate
14:06 tenplus1     ahh, mate... that's a good flavour to the bunch :)
14:06 Bobr2        aha its annoying
14:06 tenplus1     really ? thought that was quite easy to use
14:07 Bobr2        nah
14:07 tenplus1     you tried Lubuntu ?
14:07 Bobr2        nah
14:07 tenplus1     a worthy and quite light desktop... nice n simple
14:08 Bobr2        aha
14:16 * CWz        wonders what's the point in ubuntu mate if we have linux mint
14:17 tenplus1     mint is based on ubuntu and it's repo's... only the settings differ and some default progs
14:19 benrob0329   Void is nice on my laptop
14:19 tenplus1     https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1903
14:20 benrob0329   I legit have <10 second boot times atm
14:20 tenplus1     that's pretty good, you have an ssd ?
14:26 shivajiva    CWz did you catch the link I posted before?
14:27 CWz          Sadly i don't have sudo privs on my server
14:28 * tenplus1   sneaks on CWz's server and does:  sudo apt-get install roblox
14:33 benrob0329   tenplus1: I do, which helps with initramfs loading
14:34 tenplus1     nice...  havent timed my startup here, but it's <10 as well... ehe
14:35 benrob0329   A lot of startup time it spent starting services and such, but my init time is >5 seconds, though I need to time it
14:36 benrob0329   Runit wasn't kidding when they put "run" in-it :P
14:37 tenplus1     lolol
14:37 CalebDavis   mine is @45 seconds XD
14:37 tenplus1     :P
14:38 benrob0329   My desktop is slower, OpenRC can't keep up XD
14:38 tenplus1     my moms laptop has an m.2 drive in it... from pressing power to Xubuntu appearing is around 5 seconds
14:38 CalebDavis   i am working on portals for athermensia should i have it generate a miror portal at the destination or not?
14:39 benrob0329   I would, how else do you get out?
14:40 CalebDavis   you build a return portal but yea i think it should generate a return portal
14:41 benrob0329   If the user is required to build one, then the materials to do so should be in the dimention
14:41 benrob0329   (Even if rare)
14:41 CalebDavis   right that is what i was thinking
14:41 benrob0329   And home + teleporting should be disabled
14:42 CalebDavis   but maybe place a beacon-like thing so you know where you teleported in
14:43 benrob0329   Eh, perhaps that should be left to the player
14:43 CalebDavis   ok sounds good :)
14:43 tenplus1     would be funny if you could craft an unstable portal that sent the player to a random location
14:43 CalebDavis   ohh but in the same dimension
14:44 CWz          shivajiva, is there away to use sban without luarocks?
14:44 CalebDavis   or it just spits you back out XD
14:44 CalebDavis   with half the health
14:44 benrob0329   What if the portal exploded (tier one portal, built from normal materials) after one use, but tier two was stable (build from dimentional materials)
14:45 tenplus1     ooh, interesting
14:45 benrob0329   And when you die, you get tossed back out of the broken portal
14:46 benrob0329   To continue your hornet back home
14:46 tenplus1     sounds like Aether mod :P
14:46 benrob0329   *journey
14:46 CalebDavis   maybe that sounds cool but ill just work on the stable portal rn but i might add the unstable later
14:46 benrob0329   K
14:47 benrob0329   Just ideas :-)
14:47 benrob0329   I wish we could make a smooth glow effect
14:48 benrob0329   Like if something was transforming, we could hide it behind a bright glow
14:49 CalebDavis   like a halo effect
14:49 CalebDavis   bloom^
14:53 shivajiva    CWz: luarocks is the recommended way to install but I see it has a make file https://github.com/LuaDist/lsqlite3
15:00 Krock        ^ can confirm working when compiled with CMakeLists/make too
15:01 Krock        but the performance of lsqlite3 wasn't too great tbh
15:22 shivajiva    I checked the performance and on a 500 record db it was under 3 ms for the join events
15:23 shivajiva    never more than 5ms
15:27 shivajiva    and the storage of a 5.5MB xban2 db takes 2.5MB of space
15:45 * tenplus1   watches Zorba The Greek
15:45 shivajiva    lol, try not to fall asleep
15:45 tenplus1     ehehe, suppose to be quite funny :)
15:50 shivajiva    talking of Greek, I watched a Greek guy tell Gorden Ramsay that his take on Greek food was the best he'd ever tasted...I mean what's the world coming to when an English chef can do Greek food better than a native...
15:50 ThomasMonroe heh
15:50 tenplus1     depends who the native learned from... could be a bad recipe indeed
15:51 tenplus1     I've had a south indian friend make me an amazing curry better than a resto
15:51 shivajiva    he learnt from his mother :)
15:51 tenplus1     ehehe
15:51 tenplus1     hi RobbieF
15:51 shivajiva    real Indian food doesn't resemble the gravies they make for the UK
15:51 RobbieF      Hi tenplus1! How you been?
15:52 shivajiva    Hi RobbieF :)
15:52 tenplus1     good thx, you?
15:53 shivajiva    RobbieF: https://github.com/shivajiva101/sban
15:53 RobbieF      very well thanks. Finally have the 10th anniversary behind me! Gonna take a break for a long weekend at the cottage, and then get back on track and try to get my head on straight as we begin Season 11.
15:53 RobbieF      Hey shivajiva!
15:54 RobbieF      Oh that's smart shivajiva! Be great to coordinate an API connecting to the same db!
15:54 RobbieF      (eg., if I block a user, it blocks it on your server as well)  :)
15:54 RobbieF      I like collaboration
15:54 RobbieF      hehe
15:54 tenplus1     ooh, that would be interesting indeed
15:55 RobbieF      among trusted hosts, it sure would.
15:55 RobbieF      Or also if a new server admin wants to quickly ban all known bad players they could tap into the api
15:55 tenplus1     am sure you could sent a client setting that only sban reads so when they connect to another server it can check for current bans and the reason :)))
15:56 RobbieF      yes you could easily do that, or even just a cronjob that syncs the tables.
15:56 RobbieF      that way it's not affected if someone is offline
16:00 shivajiva    :)
16:01 tenplus1     if someone had a server that would accept messages between game servers with the ability to share info like that for bans etc
16:01 tenplus1     even skins
16:20 CalebDavis   i am running a minetest.emerge then a minetest.get_node but it still returns "ignore" not what is there
16:21 CalebDavis   is there a reason for this?
16:22 tenplus1     wb nrz
16:35 sfan5        CalebDavis: emerges are not instant
16:35 CalebDavis   so how would i get the lua to wait for it
16:36 tenplus1     minetest.after(1.0, function()   stuff here )
16:36 CalebDavis   ok ill try to get that to work
16:43 tenplus1     wb paramat
16:43 sfan5        doesn't minetest.emerge have a callback
16:44 tenplus1     to let you know when area is done ?
16:44 sfan5        ye
16:44 tenplus1     would be a good idea...
16:45 tenplus1     could do a while loopuntil emerged then place node when needed
16:45 CalebDavis   but that would freeze all other lua
16:45 CalebDavis   paramat is there a way to automaticaly generate the mapgen biomes in a lua mapgen
16:45 tenplus1     if you are only emerging a few nodes to place something then it shouldnt take long at all
16:46 tenplus1     how does worldedit do it when copying nodes to an area unloaded ?
16:46 CalebDavis   i am trying to find the node that is on the surface of the world
16:46 rubenwardy   it probably gets the blocks to load, and waits until they do
16:47 CalebDavis   ik how do do it with a custom mapgen
16:47 rubenwardy   I had to do this to place the center barrier in CTF
16:47 rubenwardy   and remove it
16:47 tenplus1     find_nodes_in_area_under_air and look for group:soil or group:stone to find position
16:47 CalebDavis   ohh duh XD
16:47 * CalebDavis facepalm
16:50 tenplus1     a 2x2 column around 30 high will find a position :)
16:50 tenplus1     wb nrz
16:58 nerzhul      ty
16:59 nerzhul      gnome 3.26 in arch yeah, it's nice, dont forget to install topicons plus or update
16:59 nerzhul      new settings panel is nice
16:59 tenplus1     sweet, you seen the ubuntu addon's for gnome 3.26 ?
17:00 nerzhul      i'm on arch, i don't care about ubuntu :D
17:00 tenplus1     lol, it's an addon... gives it a little bit of extra functionality
17:00 nerzhul      like ?
17:00 tenplus1     kinda like unity had...  launcher statbars inside icons and such
17:01 tenplus1     http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/09/ubuntu-dock-now-supports-progress-bars-badge-counts
17:01 tenplus1     gnome desktop with additional features :P
17:03 CalebDavis   it still isnt working in unload chuncks
17:03 CalebDavis   unloaded^
17:16 tenplus1     Caleb: try this:   keep_loaded(pos1, pos2) minetest.get_voxel_manip():read_from_map(pos1, pos2) end
17:19 tenplus1     oh wait... he's gone :PPP
17:25 tenplus1     hi unk
17:32 Guest61482   hi tenplus1
17:33 tenplus1     o/
17:34 paramat      ~tell CalebDavis sort of, if you place the correct surface nodes (dirt, dirt with grass et.) you can then use minetest.generate_ores() and minetest.generate_decorations() https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2700
17:34 ShadowBot    paramat: O.K.
17:41 paramat      how about we close 2 of shadowninjas commits? #2604 #3653 both have many conflicts and the author has told me they have no time for MT currently. these would probably be best started again
17:41 paramat      oops
17:41 tenplus1     game or engine ?
17:41 Shara        Hello all
17:41 paramat      wrong channel
17:41 shivajiva    o/
17:41 Raven262     Hi Shara
17:41 Shara        :)
17:42 Guest61482   hi Shara
17:42 tenplus1     hi shara
17:42 Shara        Hi unk the guest :P
17:44 Guest61482   lol...server problems:)
17:44 Shara        Stop having those already :P
17:45 Guest61482   working on it:)
17:45 Shara        But please, give me a poke if I can be any help :)
17:45 Guest61482   will do...thanks
17:49 tenplus1     wb CalebDavis
17:49 tenplus1     Caleb: try this:   keep_loaded(pos1, pos2) minetest.get_voxel_manip():read_from_map(pos1, pos2) end
17:49 tenplus1     a quick function to load an area of map so you can do stuff to it
17:50 tenplus1     put local function at front
17:51 Guest61482   I have been having issues with my game server after adding villages mods...when i disable the villages mods the server returns to normal operatioon...the problme is that the cpu is maxed out when vilage generation occurs and it crashes the server...is there any way to make the villages mods stable to use on my server? Is anyone else having issues with them?
17:52 tenplus1     It hink villages mod uses voxelmanip to generate structures that messes with luajit memory
17:54 paramat      what's the error message?
17:55 Guest61482   no error message was recorded in the log file...server just hangs and I have to kill the game
17:56 paramat      hangs, not good
17:56 tenplus1     hi Megaf
17:57 tenplus1     abm issue with villages prolly... had the hanging thing before with furnaces on abm's... no meta so broke it
17:57 Shara        I can confirm the error, as I've been joining to try and see what it is that causes the issue.
17:57 tenplus1     Guest61482: are you using a vustom villages mod ? can u link me to git page plz
17:57 Shara        Can't identify anything other than villages as the cause, but... noe rror message.
17:57 paramat      the mod is quite intensive, low power server?
17:57 Shara        no error*
17:58 Guest61482   looking up the links...
17:58 tenplus1     link me and I'll check abm's
17:58 Shara        It's a slightly edited version of mg_villages, but otherwise no changes I think
17:58 tenplus1     hi behalebabo
17:59 Shara        But the edits were mine, just to cut out one check and let players claim more than one plot :P
17:59 behalebabo   hello
17:59 Shara        Hi behalebabo
18:00 Megaf        Hey tenplus1
18:00 Megaf        nice PR man
18:00 Megaf        :+1:
18:00 tenplus1     which one ?
18:00 tenplus1     :P
18:00 Megaf        ah
18:00 Megaf        no idea
18:00 Megaf        the one I thumbs upped
18:00 tenplus1     ahaha, the tnt one ?
18:00 Megaf        yep
18:01 tenplus1     ah.. thx :D
18:01 Megaf        not for the code... But to come forward and change that, finally
18:01 Megaf        nice adition
18:01 tenplus1     if there's an issue I can fix, I'll gladly do so
18:02 Megaf        Meh, Im not testing it, I dont even use TNT :P
18:02 tenplus1     hehehe
18:02 Megaf        but Im glad you added that
18:09 Guest61482   ok...5 villages mods:https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
18:09 Guest61482   https://github.com/Sokomine/village_modern_houses
18:09 Guest61482   https://github.com/Sokomine/village_towntest
18:09 Guest61482   https://github.com/Sokomine/village_gambit
18:09 Guest61482   https://github.com/Sokomine/village_spawn
18:10 tenplus1     you must also have handle_schematics installed ?
18:11 Guest61482   yes
18:13 tenplus1     did you also install villagers ??? the mobs
18:14 Guest61482   no...I didn't install the villagers
18:14 tenplus1     mobf_trader I think it's valled
18:15 Calinou      https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/game-developer-atlus-issues-a-dmca-takedown-against-open-source-ps3-emulator.10426
18:15 Calinou      :thinking:
18:16 tenplus1     lol...
18:17 tenplus1     if they make games and players are buying their games, does it really matter if it runs on a hardware ps3 or software ps3
18:17 * Krock      gives Calinou 🤔
18:22 tenplus1     ooh, humble bundle has been running for 7 years and has raised over $100 million for charity :) yay
18:23 Calinou      you can donate to the Software Freedom Conservancy with Humble Bundle
18:23 Calinou      I always 100% them, and give 0% to developers and other charities :P
18:23 tenplus1     heh
18:23 Calinou      but, they get a tiny part as I usually buy games for free (:D) or very cheap, there
18:24 tenplus1     considering I get around 6 games and some of them pretty good, I give double the average price
18:43 CalebDavis   does minetest.after send all local variables or do i have to do that
18:44 tenplus1     it shoudl let you use local vars in the same function
18:50 tenplus1     wb
18:51 Raven262     This is weird.
18:51 tenplus1     ?
18:52 Raven262     I'm being disconnected lots of times but only when on windows.
18:52 tenplus1     windows network driver...  you on wifi or cable ?
18:52 Raven262     cable
18:52 tenplus1     weird indeed... you'd expect that from wifi, not a cable connection
18:53 Raven262     Could it be cause of high lag spikes that seem to happen on my network?
18:53 tenplus1     what else you got connected?
18:53 Raven262     There are two more PC's on this network
18:54 tenplus1     only that one disconnected ? but only when using windows ?
18:54 Raven262     lisac can tell you more though, we are on the same network
18:54 Raven262     I'm the only one who has windows.
18:54 tenplus1     try disabling the QoS service... then reboot, see if that helps
18:55 tenplus1     it reserves bandwidth for windows services/.. might be messing around
18:55 Raven262     Okay, will try.
18:55 lisac        Raven is an idiot
18:55 tenplus1     typically on a windows install I remove netbios and qos leaving tcpip
18:55 tenplus1     lol, hi lisac
18:56 lisac        He is playing DOTA2, TF2, and MB:Warband 90% of the time
18:56 lisac        all three Linux native games
18:56 lisac        and he is using Windows to play them
18:56 lisac        Hey ten :D
18:56 Raven262     Hey, i'm playing dawn of war too
18:56 Raven262     And skyrim
18:56 Raven262     I do need windows
18:56 tenplus1     lol, if they are on steam install via linux :)
18:56 lisac        Dawn of War II is also linux native
18:56 lisac        tell me, when did you open Skyrim last time, Raven?
18:57 Raven262     That torrent doesn't work, lisac.
18:57 tenplus1     skyrim works using wine
18:57 Raven262     A few minutes ago?
18:57 Raven262     Nah, wine can't even run oblivion here
18:57 tenplus1     try the QoS service disabling 1st
19:00 Raven262     I disabled it, now to reboot.
19:01 tenplus1     wb
19:01 Raven262     thx
19:02 CalebDavis   i got the portals working :) :) :) :) :) :)
19:03 tenplus1     nice one caleb :) did you solve the map lad issue ?
19:03 CalebDavis   yep i uses emerge and mt.after(1.0,...)
19:04 tenplus1     nice...  remember the mini function I posted as well, that also workd
19:04 CalebDavis   yea but it wont work on un-generated map
19:05 CalebDavis   well i gtg do spanish ill be back in 30 mins
19:05 tenplus1     the mini function is how worldedit can copy bloks from one area to an unloaded area
19:05 CalebDavis   unloaded not ungenerated
19:14 tenplus1     wb
19:15 Krock        ty. router needed a connection queue flush.. or something like that. Maybe it only overheated, dunno :3
19:16 tenplus1     overheated ? how high is the temp in your area ? :P
19:17 Krock        right now it's about -273°C  ;)
19:18 tenplus1     sweet, perfect scottish weather :D
19:18 Krock        not really no. rain doesn't work with this temperature
19:18 * tenplus1   does a rain dance
19:18 tenplus1     hows't hat ?
19:19 Krock        "I'm singing in the rain ... " ^^
19:19 tenplus1     ehehehe
19:32 tenplus1     :P nice quote
19:41 Calinou      lisac: do you play Doom by the way? :P
19:43 tenplus1     hi Aerozoic
19:43 Aerozoic     wazup tenplus1
19:43 tenplus1     o/
19:48 * KaadmY     pokes everyone that plays Doom
19:58 tenplus1     nite folks o/
21:12 rdococ       Krock: my blanket/duvet/whatever keeps warming up on the side facing down, so I turn it over every few minutes :P
21:14 Krock        make it so.
21:14 Krock        engage!
21:19 lisac        Calinou, aye I play Doom :)
21:19 lisac        sorry for late response
21:19 Calinou      lisac: that's cool, we could play on my coop server if you want
21:19 Calinou      not tonight, though, I'm going to sleep
21:19 lisac        lol was about to say the same
21:20 lisac        23:19 here
21:20 lisac        goodnight everyone
21:20 Calinou      same, yeah
21:20 Calinou      night :)
21:22 rdococ       Poll: What are your favorite web browsers?
21:23 rubenwardy   let's not
21:25 rdococ       Aw.
21:41 benrob0329   #minetest-random
21:41 benrob0329   (doesn't exist, but some days it'd be a better name for the channel)
22:24 Jordach      thonk
23:31 Fixer        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qaEJkUaOpc
23:45 Fixer        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6XeGOS7L88