Time  Nick         Message
02:04 bigfoot547   How profound Aerozoic
02:05 CalebDavis   hi bigfoot
02:05 bigfoot547   hey CalebDavis
02:11 * paramat    is now set up at Patreon https://www.patreon.com/paramat
03:30 rdococ       hi
03:30 rdococ       does patreon have a patreon page?
04:41 rdococ       on april fools, vectors should have a 'mootness' property. if you set it to true, it becomes a moot point. :P
05:53 rdococ       hi
07:41 tenplus1     hi folks
07:46 rdococ       hi eleven
07:46 lisac        hey tenplus1
07:46 tenplus1     hi rdococ
07:47 rdococ       onfg
07:47 rdococ       do people not know what tenplus1 evaluates to
07:47 tenplus1     :P
07:47 rdococ       it evaluates to [ERROR: Cannot perform arithmetic with undefined variable]
07:47 tenplus1     only bots have issue with fuzzy logic...  we can tell the bots amongst us now :D
07:48 rdococ       who are the bots?
07:48 tenplus1     we shall see :P
07:48 * rdococ     crashes
07:48 * rdococ     has stopped working. Please send all of your personal data and money to Microsoft.
07:49 tenplus1     lol
07:50 * rdococ     farts.
07:58 tenplus1     wb raven
08:06 rdococ       raven is a bird
08:19 IhrFussel    Hi guys...is swap_node() more efficient compared to remove_node() then set_node()?
08:20 tenplus1     swap_node is efficient in that it doesnt remove metadata
08:20 tenplus1     or run on_place or after_place functions
08:21 IhrFussel    So it skips ALL node callbacks + metadata check?
08:21 tenplus1     yup, which is why it's faster to use... :)
08:21 tenplus1     also doesnt do timers
08:22 tenplus1     gotta set them manually after swap
08:22 IhrFussel    Well in my case I got a playerlight players can enable which triggers a "following" node above their heads...currently it uses remove/set node
08:23 IhrFussel    So swap_node() might speed it up
08:23 tenplus1     yeah it will...  I used the same method :P
08:24 tenplus1     faster but still laggy , especially on server
08:24 IhrFussel    Well I don't update the node pos on every step...I check once every 1.5 secs ... should be enough
08:25 tenplus1     and only if pos is different?
08:26 tenplus1     hi nrz
08:26 IhrFussel    Yes every 1.5 secs I compare the current pso to the old one...if different I update the nodes
08:26 IhrFussel    pos*
08:28 IhrFussel    hi nerzhul ... thanks for coding the callback but since it's 0.5.0-dev it's not really useful right now for me
08:29 nerzhul      hi IhrFussel
08:30 nerzhul      hi tenplus1
08:30 IhrFussel    tenplus1, is swap_node() still faster even if I just replce air?
08:30 tenplus1     yes
08:30 nerzhul      yes i know, but it's not there, now you just need to have a release, also if you really need it, backport it to your 0.4.17 tree, it should be easy to cherry pick
08:39 rdococ       hi
08:40 rdococ       I ended up adding an on_swap callback in Lua so that I could monitor mesecon device state transitions.
08:51 rdococ       I'm guessing nodetimerref:get_timeout() gets the number of seconds remaining
08:53 tenplus1     yeh
08:57 rdococ       does get_elapsed() keep increasing after a timer ends?
09:00 tenplus1     if on_timer function returns nil it stops timer, if it returns true it restarts (I think)
09:01 rdococ       does on_timer have access to the number of seconds the timer was set to?
09:02 tenplus1     http://dev.minetest.net/NodeTimerRef only these
09:05 rdococ       well, I want the timer to restart, but at a different timeout
09:05 rdococ       so I'm using :start()
09:05 tenplus1     yes
09:06 rdococ       okay, good
09:06 rdococ       I've got the delayer block to be able to delay multiple things at once
09:06 rdococ       s/things/signals/
09:22 tenplus1     wb raven
09:22 Raven262     thanks tenplus1
09:22 Raven262     And hi
09:23 Raven262     Gotta go to school in a few minutes though.
09:23 tenplus1     aw
09:23 Raven262     At least i installed GZDoom on my phone and copied the wads, gonna have some fun too :D
09:23 tenplus1     nice one :D
09:36 rdococ       hi eleven
09:37 tenplus1     o/
09:40 tenplus1     back laters
09:41 IhrFussel    Is the last login timestamp in the auth file only used for the /last-login command?
09:42 IhrFussel    If that's the case I can remove the updating since I use my own last login system
09:50 rdococ       hi
10:09 rdococ       does swap_node keep param2?
10:29 rdococ       hi IhrFussel
10:30 rdococ       I'm having trouble connecting to either of the two 0.5.0-dev servers.
10:32 IhrFussel    Hi there rdococ ... are you using 0.4.16(-dev)?
10:33 rdococ       no, I'm using 0.5.0-dev
10:33 rdococ       I compiled 0.5.0 again, this time with -DRUN_IN_PLACE, so I can have both at once.
10:34 rdococ       Fiver!
10:34 rdococ       Fixer*
10:35 rdococ       nvm
10:35 rdococ       I seem to be able to connect now
10:41 * rdococ     hugs people
10:44 Fixer        hi
10:44 DS-minetest  hi
10:48 rdococ       hi
10:50 nerzhul      hey Fixer , don't hesitate to tell me if the patch is okay for you in 8 hours
10:50 nerzhul      if it's okay i push it to master
10:51 Fixer        nerzhul: i did played with it for 2hrs30min on DCBL and had no crashes
10:51 Fixer        yesterday
10:51 rdococ       yey
10:51 nerzhul      nice, dcbl owner should apply it too
10:51 nerzhul      but i'm pretty sure it fixes the problem, nice to see that
11:04 rdococ       yay
11:04 rdococ       nerzhul
11:08 IhrFussel    Is this correct English? "You must NOT talk publicly or build about sex, politics, drugs or racism."
11:10 Megaf        build about?
11:10 Megaf        what's the context?
11:10 Megaf        al
11:10 Megaf        Minetest
11:10 IhrFussel    Build on the server
11:10 Megaf        for a second I thought this was ##English
11:11 Megaf        ##English a s channel about English,.. for people who want to improve their languange skill
11:11 IhrFussel    Ok then I'll try there
11:11 Megaf        IhrFussel, so, instead of or, use nor
11:11 Megaf        then it will be ok
11:12 nerzhul      IhrFussel, it's correct in EN-GB because they don't like to talk sex, if you are a nudist you can talk about sex :p
11:19 IhrFussel    nerzhul, haha =P ... ##English seems to be very slow compared to this channel even though there are 6x as many users
11:23 nerzhul      due to the brexit they cannot join us
11:26 rdococ       You must make sure to avoid communicating to fellow humans interacting with a program connected to this server, or using the aforementioned program to create geometric constructions relating or resembling the process of reproduction, the art of confusing people, substances which may modify your physical and/or mental state, or discerning people by race in a derogatory manner..
11:28 rdococ       s/race/chemicals on or in the skin layer of humans that determine which frequencies of photons that the layer reflects, and how many are reflected/
11:28 rdococ       (I mean, race isn't all about skin color, of course, but that is a part in it.)
11:38 rdococ       YAY
11:40 IhrFussel    One of my players is surprised that racism is not allowed
11:40 IhrFussel    ...
11:40 rdococ       ...
11:40 rdococ       wait, seriously?
11:42 IhrFussel    I don't think he's joking
11:43 rdococ       I'm joining in a sec.
11:43 IhrFussel    You know him^^
11:45 IhrFussel    rdococ, Someone told me he made a nazi symbol in his base
11:46 IhrFussel    What's up with people and their nazi symbols...is it a running gag?
11:46 rdococ       IhrFussel: who is it?
11:46 IhrFussel    The one you're talking to right now
11:46 rdococ       ?
11:46 rdococ       I left
11:46 IhrFussel    Starts with h
11:47 rdococ       oh
11:49 IhrFussel    rdococ, he doesn't seem to really *know* what it even means...I mean he's still young but kinda weird that no one explained to him yet
11:50 rdococ       you mean hijenavuk?
11:52 IhrFussel    Yes, I didn't want to call him out though
11:55 rdococ       k
12:18 tenplus1     hi folks
12:19 DS-minetest  hi
12:19 tenplus1     hi DS
12:25 CalebDavis   hi ten
12:25 tenplus1     hi Caleb
12:26 tenplus1     o/ Fixer
12:37 cx384        hi tenplus1
12:38 tenplus1     hi cx384
12:38 rdococ       hi eleven
12:38 rdococ       hi cx384
12:42 tenplus1     hi thomas
12:42 ThomasMonroe hi ten
12:43 rdococ       Does worldedit have an "on_move" callback when a node is moved or copied or something?
12:43 tenplus1     nope
12:43 rdococ       aw.
12:43 tenplus1     when moving/copying nodes it SHOULD copy metadata inside them as well
12:44 rdococ       of course it does.......I think
12:44 tenplus1     although placing schematics has no callbacks active inside node
12:44 CalebDavis   hi tre
12:59 tenplus1     hi robbie
13:06 RobbieF      hello, tenplus1, my friend. How was your weekend?
13:07 tenplus1     too quiet...
13:07 tenplus1     am about to catalogue all the hardware and pc bits I've found while tidying back room :P
13:08 tenplus1     hows you ?
13:42 IhrFussel    !tell tenplus1 Is there a way for Mobs Redo monsters to damage players attached to vehicles?
13:42 ShadowBot    IhrFussel: O.K.
13:51 * rdococ     accidentally superglues himself to a car
14:35 nerzhul      Fixer_, are you there ?
14:35 rdococ       hihihi
14:55 tenplus1     back
14:55 rdococ       hi eleven
14:56 tenplus1     o/
14:56 tenplus1     finished cataloguing all my old HW... found some interesting items :D
14:57 rdococ       HW?
14:57 tenplus1     old pc hardware
15:04 tenplus1     hi srifqi
15:07 srifqi       hi tenplus1
15:08 srifqi       "/mnt/c/ubuntu/minetest/build/minetest/src/client/clientlauncher.cpp:595:3: error: ‘mutex’ is not a member of ‘std’"
15:09 srifqi       Uh, anybody?
15:09 srifqi       (^_^")\
15:09 tenplus1     ??????
15:09 sfan5        no c++11 support?
15:09 srifqi       "g++ (Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4) 5.4.0 20160609"
15:10 srifqi       cross-compiling to Windows
15:12 sfan5        are you using cygwin? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3414834/gcc-stdthread-not-found-in-namespace-std#answer-3417007
15:13 sfan5        if not just download the mingw toolchain used by the buildbot
15:13 IhrFussel    tenplus1, did you see my question?
15:13 srifqi       I run buildbot64.sh and got this error.
15:13 tenplus1     no, what was it ?
15:14 IhrFussel    I did a !tell hm...I asked if it#s possible for monsters to NOT ignore players in vehicles
15:14 sfan5        srifqi: that's impossible, the buildbot has either used gcc 4.8.1 or 7.1.1
15:14 tenplus1     since the player is attached to the vehicle it makes a whole new entity, but monsters will attack the vehicle/horse/boat etc. first and once destroyed start on the player
15:14 IhrFussel    My players abuse the current fact that they are immune to damage when attached to a car
15:15 IhrFussel    Cars have no HP...
15:15 sfan5        srifqi: well not exactly, but i suggest you to use the same mingw toolchain used by travis
15:15 sfan5        srifqi: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/util/travis/before_install.sh#L30
15:16 tenplus1     in which case the mobs cannot attack player inside...
15:16 tenplus1     but will look into it
15:17 IhrFussel    Isn't there a simple check I need to comment out to attack the player instead?
15:17 rdococ       lol
15:17 tenplus1     like I said, if the player is attached to a vehicle it's a whole new object that the mob attacks
15:18 rdococ       omfg just decrease its hp :P
15:18 rdococ       jk
15:18 IhrFussel    So the only way would be to destroy the vehicle via remove()...or can you detach a player from another mod?
15:19 tenplus1     rdococ: sethp is one way but then punch callbacks arent called
15:19 IhrFussel    So that the player leaves the car when a monster attacks
15:19 tenplus1     once player leaves car then monster will go straight for player
15:20 IhrFussel    Yes but can Mobs Redo make the player leave the vehicle?
15:20 tenplus1     no, only WHEN the vehicle is destroyed
15:20 tenplus1     give the car an HP limit
15:21 IhrFussel    Okay then...and is there a way to give monsters nametags in their definition? I'd like their names to appear over their heads
15:22 tenplus1     you can use the new on_spawn function to set nametags
15:22 tenplus1     but yes, I'll add a way to make it simpler
15:22 rdococ       I have considered a wiring system which uses a head wire and a tail wire node before
15:22 srifqi       network hiccup
15:23 srifqi       sfan5: So, I just need to do wget, sed, and unpack?
15:24 IhrFussel    tenplus1, so just on_spawn = function(self) ?
15:24 * rdococ     hiccups
15:25 IhrFussel    And inside self.nametag = blah ?
15:25 tenplus1     yeh
15:26 srifqi       sfan5: It says ubuntu 14.04, will it work on ubuntu 16.04?
15:27 rdococ       self.blah = blah
15:28 rdococ       yay, my blah is now blah
15:32 Megaf        Hi tenplus1
15:33 tenplus1     hi Megaf, wb DS
15:33 tenplus1     fussel, I've updated mobs api, you can have   nametag = "whateva",    in mob definition now
15:33 DS-minetest  hi
15:33 DS-minetest  thx 10+1
15:37 Megaf        Hum, Onetyfive minus 4.
15:38 IhrFussel    tenplus1, the on_spawn() method doesn't seem to work
15:38 IhrFussel    on_spawn = function(self)
15:38 IhrFussel    self.nametag = "Dirt Monster"
15:38 IhrFussel    end,
15:39 IhrFussel    Any errors in that code?
15:39 tenplus1     gotta udpate entity for it to show, but like I said above, in the mob registry you can add:    nametag = "Dirt MOnsterr",
15:40 IhrFussel    But I use a custom version of mobs redo..is the fix simple?
15:40 tenplus1     custom as in how ?
15:40 IhrFussel    So that the mod understands my level system and quest system
15:41 tenplus1     check last commit to mobs redo and it'll show you what was added, it's an easy insert
15:55 IhrFussel    tenplus1, seems to work awesome!
15:56 tenplus1     kewl
15:56 tenplus1     am surprised I never added it before
15:58 tenplus1     also the CMI mod was meant to link all mobs mods with  feedback for mods... this was added to mobs redo so that mob punches would report back and you could do stuff with it
16:04 srifqi       Finally, it compiles! :D
16:05 srifqi       It's still compiling, though.
16:05 srifqi       34% .-.
16:12 IhrFussel    tenplus1, THANK YOU so much...players started to annoy with their questions "which monster is xy, I need it for my quest"
16:12 tenplus1     hehehe
16:28 rdococ       nee
16:29 tenplus1     " we are the knight who say.... NI!"
16:31 sfan5        srifqi: porbably, just try it
16:35 tenplus1     wb Krock
16:35 Krock        hi tenplus1
16:36 tenplus1     hi lisac
16:36 lisac        hey tenplus1
16:37 tenplus1     this is what I found in my spare room: https://pastebin.com/gCQDbCD0
16:44 lisac        tenplus1, you could probably sell the monitors
16:44 tenplus1     not monitors, actual LCD panels inside laptops :)
16:51 tenplus1     just gotta figure out what to do with all this :P
16:53 sofar        ... recycle ...
16:54 lisac        or wait a few years and sell it in Serbia as new technology
16:54 * lisac      is learning pascal in school, in 2017
16:56 rdococ       hm.
16:57 tenplus1     nice
16:57 rdococ       from regular MT wiki: "Ignited gun powder ignites neighboring (including diagonals) gun powder and TNT blocks. "
16:57 rdococ       pretty sure it doesn't ignite diagonals anymore
16:57 tenplus1     lisac:  old dos version or windows "delphi" /
16:57 benrob0329   lisac: Object Pascal is a modern language
16:57 benrob0329   Free Pascal is pretty neat, actually
16:57 * tenplus1   wrote a GUI interface for pascal in college (dos version
16:59 lisac        tenplus1, benrob0329: It's delphi pascal
16:59 benrob0329   Good
16:59 tenplus1     :P
16:59 lisac        I'm wondering how do they expect me to do homework without giving me a licensed version, though
17:00 lisac        I'll also put in that I don't have licensed windows, either. :P
17:00 benrob0329   lisac: Free Pascal in Delphi mode?
17:00 lisac        Not sure if that would work
17:00 * lisac      downloads free pascal
17:00 CWz          who uses pascal dis day in age
17:01 tenplus1     it's an old language but shows structure like c :)
17:03 benrob0329   CWz: lots of people
17:05 tenplus1     I may give LUA a chance outwith minetest and see what I can do with it on a linux desktop :)
17:06 lisac        tenplus1, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/awesome
17:06 lisac        if you want to give Lua a chance on a Linux Desktop...
17:07 tenplus1     ooh!
17:08 benrob0329   I tried Awesome, wasn't a fan but lots of other people are
17:09 tenplus1     I use LXDE which is quite light already :)
17:13 lisac        how do I make guis in pascal?
17:13 lisac        freepascal
17:13 lisac        not even this IDE is actual gui. Just some ascii art
17:13 tenplus1     are you using a dos/console based pascal or windows version ?
17:14 lisac        freepascal, whichever that is
17:14 tenplus1     here's an example program I wrote ages ago for graphics: https://pastebin.com/dChq4523
17:30 lisac        tenplus1, https://pastebin.com/vwXYiCw3
17:30 lisac        my progress so far
17:30 tenplus1     ehe, that's always the best test for any language
17:31 tenplus1     I hated Cobol in college, same example: https://pastebin.com/kKkHF3gf
17:31 rdococ       has there been a change in biome registration recently?
17:32 rdococ       hell, even carbone seems to have lost all its biomes
17:32 rdococ       if it had any, that is
17:33 rdococ       heh, good thing the v6 mapgen comes with biomes
17:33 * tenplus1   hasnt tested 0.5.0-dev
17:33 tenplus1     v6 biomes are hardcoded
17:36 Calinou      hi
17:36 rdococ       ik
17:36 tenplus1     hi Cal
17:36 rdococ       cal!
17:37 rdococ       yay, it's eleven and calories
17:37 tenplus1     :P
17:37 lisac        hey Calinou, wanna join me in hating pascal?
17:37 tenplus1     lol lisac
17:37 rdococ       depends, is pascal bad?
17:38 lisac        verrry bad
17:38 * lisac      was a click close to opening WoW again now
17:39 benrob0329   Pascal isnt bad, its just not as popular as it once was
17:39 Calinou      lisac: MaybeButOnlyIfItInvolvesHatingLispAsWell
17:39 tenplus1     to think schools use tot each basic, then pascal, then c... why are they going b ackwards
17:39 lisac        tenplus1, we had basic in elementary school
17:39 rdococ       omfg just use python already
17:40 lisac        I don't get a choice lol
17:40 Calinou      https://hastebin.com/macafujiru.xml
17:40 lisac        for the record, I made some stuff in python
17:40 Calinou      kids these days…
17:40 tenplus1     python is fun, as is Lua
17:40 Calinou      they were told not to use Enter as punctuation ;)
17:40 rdococ       Lua is kinda fun, but it's also pretty weird :P
17:40 Calinou      and they didn't; instead, they used Enter as character separator
17:40 lisac        Arrays start at 1.
17:40 rdococ       I mean, in Lua you can have recursive tables which contain themselves. tell me THAT'S not weird.
17:41 Calinou      oh by the way, is there a subreddit dedicated to "funny" GitHub issues? :D
17:41 Calinou      I was thinking about that when I saw https://github.com/freedoom/freedoom/issues/486 yesterday
17:41 benrob0329   Lua is...idek what
17:41 lisac        Calinou, if you find it, add this http://i.imgur.com/WOwOmKj.jpg
17:41 rdococ       and even weirder is that while you can use tables as keys, each table is a separate object
17:41 lisac        That should've been two separate commits.
17:42 rdococ       as in "local a = {}; local b = {}; return a == b;" will return false
17:42 tenplus1     since lua and python are both interpreters both are good, although lua is a LOT smaller
17:42 Calinou      relevant: https://github.com/search?q=fuck&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93 and https://github.com/search?q=fuck&type=Commits&utf8=%E2%9C%93
17:42 benrob0329   Abomination might be a good start to describing it...
17:42 Calinou      GitHub searches :^)
17:42 rdococ       benrob0329: I code with an abomination every day >:D
17:43 tenplus1     lolol
17:43 benrob0329   Technically JS is more of an abomination do your good
17:43 benrob0329   *so
17:44 rdococ       heh
17:46 benrob0329   I definitely prefer python, and you have cython for compiled stuff
17:47 rdococ       cython :P
17:47 rdococ       benrob0329: compromise solution: lython
17:47 benrob0329   Also PyPy for a JIT
17:48 benrob0329   rdococ: nooo, that'd be an even bigger abomination
17:48 tenplus1     lol
17:49 rdococ       heh
18:01 tenplus1     http://chemaguerra.com/lua-vs-python/
18:03 Krock        I suppose GitHub is trying to tell me something: https://i.imgur.com/KWs6cQV.png
18:03 rdococ       oh, nice
18:03 rdococ       lol
18:03 rdococ       Krock: O_o
18:03 Krock        *clears cache*
18:04 Krock        hmm.. that didn't help
18:05 sfan5        they broke their css
18:05 tenplus1     o/ sfan
18:05 Krock        yeah, but only the header/background specific one. labels seem to use another css file
18:07 rdococ       ...yeah, github looks ill
18:07 Calinou      https://media.hugo.pro/chrome_2017-09-05_20-07-37.png
18:07 Calinou      gg wp no re, GitHub
18:07 Calinou      their CSS is failing to load or something
18:08 Calinou      a Ctrl+F5 doesn't fix it :P
18:08 rdococ       lol
18:08 rdococ       my browser's dev. tools gives an error message which references CORS
18:09 Calinou      same
18:09 rdococ       wonder what CORSed it :P
18:19 rdococ       dammit, my queue thing is broken
18:21 rdococ       wait, I am an actual idiot
18:21 rdococ       the main execution queue doesn't persist
18:21 rdococ       why would any other queue
18:42 tenplus1     hi raven
18:42 Raven262     hi tenplus1
18:42 Raven262     Almost...
18:44 rubenwardy   Hi all o/
18:45 tenplus1     hi ruben
18:45 rubenwardy   what's occuring
18:45 tenplus1     playing with lua in terminal :P
18:45 lisac        hey rubenwardy, join me in my quest to hate pascal!
18:45 tenplus1     ooh, is anyone using an intel baytrail cpu on linux ? I have a fix for cstates until latest kernel sorts it
18:45 Raven262     Hi rubenwardy
18:47 rubenwardy   urgh
18:47 rubenwardy   my tutor at college loved pascal
18:47 rubenwardy   for no other reason that it was the first language he learnt
18:47 tenplus1     same, and for some odd reason Cobol also
18:47 Raven262     And so does lisac's, as i have heard.
18:50 rubenwardy   Lua is a pretty cool language
18:50 * lisac      has to learn pascal in school this year.
18:50 rubenwardy   so many features just from tables
18:52 lisac        arrays start at 1.
18:52 lisac        :P
18:53 rdococ       lua is kinda strange
18:53 rdococ       specifically the whole "tables being references" thing
18:55 rubenwardy   that's annoying, lisac, but there are bigger language issues
19:02 tenplus1     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6379 such a weird issue
19:03 rdococ       wat
19:03 rdococ       tbh, I kind of remember that happening, idk where though
19:03 rdococ       "WOAH! My item entity became my hand! Ew!"
19:03 tenplus1     never had it happen myself, but then again I use a custom builtin_item
19:04 tenplus1     hi paramat
19:05 rdococ       hi
19:10 rdococ       hi eleven and raven
19:10 Raven262     Hi rdococ
19:10 Raven262     Hi twelveminusone :)
19:11 Raven262     Actually
19:11 Raven262     twelveminus1
19:11 Raven262     like that
19:11 Raven262     matches the original better.
19:11 rubenwardy   "Guess what? If you become a patron to Paramat, you’ll immediately get access to as many as 1 patron-only posts."
19:12 paramat      you lucky people :]
19:13 paramat      https://www.patreon.com/paramat
19:14 * tenplus1   is test driving FriendUP os... is pretty good
19:17 rdococ       hi ninetynineminus88
19:17 tenplus1     lol
19:27 tenplus1     hi tommy
19:39 rubenwardy   Windows 2000 in a VM written only in JS: https://i.rubenwardy.com/dAUWKGv2vB.png
19:40 tenplus1     ?
19:40 rubenwardy   that's IE running on Windows 2000 in Firefox running on Ubuntu 17.04
19:40 rubenwardy   https://bellard.org/jslinux/vm.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbellard.org%2Fjslinux%2Fwin2k.cfg&mem=192&graphic=1&w=1024&h=768
19:40 tenplus1     woah
19:40 tenplus1     can it properly run windows software /
19:41 rubenwardy   it's a VM so yes
19:41 rubenwardy   it is an emulator
19:41 rubenwardy   unlike WINE
19:41 tenplus1     is it running vm from server side or client browser ?
19:41 rubenwardy   <rubenwardy> Windows 2000 in a VM written only in JS
19:42 rubenwardy   it's written in JS
19:42 rubenwardy   it runs in the browser
19:42 tenplus1     damn, is there nothing you cant do with JS :P
19:42 rubenwardy   use it to make mods for
19:42 rubenwardy   use it to make mods for FOSS Voxel Games
19:43 tenplus1     omg, its so damned slow
19:43 rubenwardy   tenplus1, surprisingly fast for me
19:43 rubenwardy   reminds me of my laptop I had then
19:43 tenplus1     heh, you have a better pc I dare say... I have an intel atmo
19:43 rubenwardy   He's a linux one: https://bellard.org/jslinux/vm.html?url=https://bellard.org/jslinux/buildroot-x86-xwin.cfg&graphic=1
19:43 tenplus1     *atom
19:44 rubenwardy   *Here's
19:44 tenplus1     this is the aim of FriendUP Os... to run everything you need within a browser session, even run windows programs BUT at full speed using other pc resources
19:45 tenplus1     nite all o/
19:54 nerzhul      !tell Krock thanks
19:54 ShadowBot    nerzhul: O.K.
20:40 Aerozoic     Just curious... Will a MT 5.0 client be able to play on a 4.X server?
20:42 nerzhul      no
20:43 Aerozoic     :(
20:43 nerzhul      it's why it's a major version
20:46 Aerozoic     I just thought that meant mods needed to comply with the new version. I had no idea the client wouldn't be compatible.
20:52 paramat      other way around, mods will work but old clients won't
20:52 paramat      we're not breaking mods or existing worlds, as that would be much more disruptive
20:55 rdococ       lo
20:55 Aerozoic     hmm ok, i'm thoroughly confused now XD
20:55 rdococ       what are the changes to the core anyway?
20:57 Aerozoic     I'm not a coder so you don't have to explain, i'll figure it out eventually.  Thanks for the response though paramat :)
21:02 paramat      rdococ see changelog or commits
21:35 Megaf        Hi all
21:35 Megaf        how do I tell cmake where luajit and irrlich are?
21:36 sfan5        i suggest reading the README
21:36 nerzhul      +1
21:41 Megaf        Common
21:41 Megaf        if you know by heart just say
21:42 Megaf        if the readme was in a real format, universal, like .md... But it is in this stupid txt format because stupid windows
21:43 Megaf        What!?
21:43 Megaf        it was changed
21:43 Megaf        to md
21:43 Megaf        lol
21:43 Megaf        I suggested changing to .md years ago, even submited a PR
21:43 Megaf        and it was not merged because windows
21:45 rubenwardy   that was a stupid decision
21:53 Calinou      https://blogs.kde.org/2017/09/05/konversation-2x-2018-new-user-interface-matrix-support-mobile-version
21:53 Calinou      a modern IRC client, and soon Matrix!
21:53 Calinou      no word on Windows/macOS support though :(
21:53 Calinou      (as with anything KDE)
21:53 Calinou      (KDE is supposed to have a Windows initiative at least, but it's dead and really bad)
21:54 Calinou      no word on a dark theme either :P
21:55 Megaf        I didnt actually send a PR, according to GitHub, but I did make at least the suggestion
21:55 rubenwardy   PPA, Calinou?
21:56 Calinou      rubenwardy: PPA for what?
21:56 rubenwardy   oh right, it's not released yet
21:56 rubenwardy   misread
21:56 Calinou      it's 2017, Linux users are still expected to build most things from source 8)
21:57 rubenwardy   :P
21:57 Calinou      reminds me that I should contribute AppImage builds to Minetest's GitLab CI
21:57 Calinou      nerzhul: also, the automatic builds should be uploaded to something like Bintray (or just a SFTP server)
21:57 Calinou      GitLab CI isn't made for mass downloading, the interface isn't user-friendly
21:57 Calinou      it's pretty easy to do
21:58 Calinou      (Bintray offers 10 GB of storage, and 1 TB of bandwidth per month for free, to open source projects)
22:11 Calinou      KaadmY: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI38Kl4UMAATIo-.jpg:large
22:11 Calinou      come see Evilution!
22:11 Calinou      of course, this wouldn't be complete without "Come see Plutonia": https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIz5fOWUwAEwI73.jpg:large
22:14 Calinou      also Raven262 ^ :P
22:26 nerzhul      gitlab ci is for building on many many platform, mass dl is not a regular dl
22:28 Megaf        How great
22:28 Megaf        make fails on luajit and make install fails on irrlicht
22:28 Megaf        splendid
22:31 Calinou      nerzhul didn't understand what I wanted :|
22:31 Calinou      users have trouble understanding the GitLab CI interface for downloading binaries
22:31 Calinou      they just want a binary
22:31 Calinou      Bintray does this okay, a SFTP does this better
22:37 red-001      lol looks like bots are scraping github for emails
22:43 red-001      and apparently people who are as persistent as a badly designed bot
22:44 rubenwardy   red-001, ?
22:45 red-001      getting spam mail from that guy that runs minetest.org
22:45 rubenwardy   oh right
22:45 rubenwardy   he's now got my rubenwardy.com email
22:45 rubenwardy   heh
22:45 Megaf        I'm dying here, haha https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/ajN7Ye0_460sv.mp4
22:48 rubenwardy   wait, the email I have is some business opportunity from a guy called Mohammed
22:48 red-001      wait a minute
22:48 red-001      I got the same spam
22:48 red-001      let me see if I permentaly deleted it yet
22:49 red-001      well oc is using questionable domains to send his spam
22:49 red-001      as in domains that send spam
22:50 red-001      so I wouldn't be surprised if people running this domains scrapped emails going through them for addresses and then sold those lists
22:53 benrob0329   weeew https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/751935372572762112
22:54 red-001      anyone else get a 419 scam sent to them?
23:00 srifqi       sfan5, when I run minetest, I got error message: "This application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b).".
23:01 sfan5        probably missing dll
23:01 srifqi       Let me copy those dlls.
23:02 srifqi       Where could I find libgcc_s_seh-1.dll?
23:02 sfan5        <mingw installation>/x86_64-w64-mingw32/bin/
23:04 srifqi       sfan5, it works!
23:05 srifqi       But, do we really need 25 dll files?
23:34 benrob0329   !seen Shara
23:34 ShadowBot    benrob0329: I saw Shara in #minetest-hub 1 day, 12 hours, 21 minutes, and 56 seconds ago saying "Best of luck Calinou :)"
23:49 rubenwardy   that was very odd