Time Nick Message 00:15 Fixer 5 mins ago: https://i.imgur.com/4Lwksi1.png 00:15 Fixer gn 02:58 ThomasMonroe well i gtg to bed cyall tomorrow 08:34 Atorian37 hi all, i wonder why the android client takes up to 5 minutes to connect to my server while the windows client has about 20 seks until it is loaded to play? it is on the same network... any idea where i have to dig for that? 08:50 CWz holy crap the is a 0.4.12 server on the serverlist 08:51 tenplus1 hi folks 08:51 Atorian37 ...a mt-museum maybe ;-)... hi tenplus1 08:52 tenplus1 hi Atorian 08:53 Atorian37 maybe youv got an idea tenplus1, why my server takes up to 5 mins when i connect with android..., it stops by "media"...with linux/win all ok 08:53 tenplus1 stops altogether or just loads really slowly ?? 08:53 Atorian37 it seems to "pause" 08:54 tenplus1 and you've ruled out the usual memory restraints, out of space, network connection speed ?? 08:54 Atorian37 i am not really into mobile devices... but after this 5 mins it works... 08:54 Raven262 Hello tenplus1 08:54 tenplus1 do you have a virus/spyware scanner on mobile ? 08:54 tenplus1 hi raven 08:54 Atorian37 network is ok.... 08:55 Atorian37 hmmm i will check again but not as far as i remember... 08:55 Atorian37 space is also ok, the memory is 1gb, should be ok? 08:56 tenplus1 1gb is ok but all depends what android is taking up and apps running in background... 08:56 CWz cool a evil mobed give my cart a push 08:57 tenplus1 ehehe, hi CWz 08:58 Atorian37 as i realise upon your reaction, it is nothing known... I will check the memory, too 08:58 tenplus1 those are the first port of call when checking if a game doesnt load properly... 08:59 tenplus1 also how much media does the actual server have, on a mobile device it could load and save to cache real slow 08:59 tenplus1 hi sniper 09:00 Atorian37 is there a setting to make this media caching faster for mobile devices? I think intuitively, that could be the cause... 09:00 tenplus1 it caches to your internal memory or sd card, so having a faster sd card would help 09:01 Atorian37 can i set somewhere where it caches to? 09:01 Atorian37 it should be in the cleint? 09:01 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example 09:02 tenplus1 that shows all of the settings for minetest.conf file that you can change which may help 09:04 Shara Morning all 09:04 tenplus1 hi shara :P 09:04 Shara Atorian37: do you get the same issue on all servers, or just that one? 09:05 Atorian37 hi Shara, I am testing right now, get back in a few secs 09:05 tenplus1 is it helps, try Xanadu server... it's light on media (1.5mb) 09:06 Shara Yup, Xanadu is usper light :) 09:06 Shara super* 09:07 CWz How do mob spawners work? 09:07 tenplus1 in mobs redo / 09:08 CWz yes 09:08 tenplus1 place and right click, will appear with a string like this: mobs_animal:pumba 10 15 0 0 09:09 tenplus1 09:09 tenplus1 runs every 10 seconds with 1 in 4 chance of spawning 09:11 Atorian37 its the same on other servers...not only on mine. i tried the apple tree survival pve & build, it took about 2 mins... but not 5 like mine. where do i reduce the "media" load? 09:12 Shara media is server side 09:12 tenplus1 yup, you either optimize all of the media (shrink images and sounds) or get a faster sd card for your mobile 09:13 Shara Just be aware that most servers with a high number of mods, or that use speciial textures, might have a very slow connection for you as things are 09:14 Shara Not that many admins seem to take steps to reduce media 09:14 tenplus1 *cough* 09:14 * Shara hands tenplus1 a throat sweet 09:14 tenplus1 ehehehe 09:14 tenplus1 ta! 09:14 Shara :D 09:15 Atorian37 :) ok... thanks, i will check what i can reduce on my server... 09:16 Shara Most images can be reduced 09:16 tenplus1 what's your server name Atorian ? 09:22 tenplus1 o.O 09:25 tenplus1 Atorian37: what's your server called ??? 09:25 CWz Time to create the Dungeon slave mob 09:26 CWz ... 09:26 CWz eh next week 09:26 Atorian37 sorry had a phone call. my server is that one: minetest.homelinux.net:30005 0/10 0/2 0.4.15, minetest, v6 09:26 Atorian37 > G R Ü E Z I ! 09:26 tenplus1 ooh, dungeon slave :P beats the silverfish I have there already :D 09:26 tenplus1 connecting 09:33 tenplus1 hi twoelk 09:33 twoelk hi 09:36 tenplus1 'nice server :P 09:36 Atorian37 thank you :)) 09:36 tenplus1 if you try Xanadu you'll see ambience lite in action... even has jungle sounds for night/day :D 09:37 tenplus1 Q. if I place sound files inside a texture pack will minetest use those instead of existing one's on server ??? 09:37 tenplus1 was that update added alread y? 09:39 twoelk pff, I just checked my screenshots folder and noticed I have subfolders for some 50 different public servers I have visited 09:39 tenplus1 lol 09:40 twoelk now if I built on only half of them . . . 09:43 * Shara liked the little cottage :P 09:43 CWz great weild hand is glitching out 09:45 twoelk thx, first time I used or rather missused them bookcase doors 09:47 twoelk btw, Shara, I was just organizing some irc channels. what was the one for redcatcreative? 09:49 CWz bug with the wield view 09:49 CWz https://youtu.be/2xrDmT7YaIo 09:53 * twoelk thinks KVIrc could do better with organizing channels by user preferences 10:05 tenplus1 hi paramat 10:06 Shara Hi paramat 10:08 tenplus1 hi Jordach 10:11 Jordach eeeeee 10:11 Jordach 4 days to prime day 10:11 CWz anyone know of an CSM mod that displays the irl time on the hud 10:12 Jordach that's a piece of cake 10:12 Jordach for anyone 10:14 * Jordach is testing out a friends ATH-M50X 10:26 tenplus1 hrm... wasn't there a change added to allow local sounds to be used like texture packs ????? 10:26 tenplus1 am I missing something here 10:27 Shara I thin it was talked about, not sure if it ever happened 10:27 tenplus1 could have sworn something was added within last month 10:27 * tenplus1 is going nuts 10:27 twoelk don't sounds go into the sounds folder? 10:29 tenplus1 ooh, checking 10:30 tenplus1 sounds folder is in .minetest folder ? 10:30 tenplus1 or is that withint texture pack ? 10:34 twoelk hm, I have my main_menu.ogg in sounds parallel to the bin folder 10:34 Jordach fun fact, main menu loads lua relative to bin 10:34 tenplus1 wait, it has to go in bin folder ? 10:35 Jordach twoelk, tenplus1: the main menu expects /minetest_dir/bin/ as the lua file path 10:35 tenplus1 I want users to add sound packs for ambience mod so supply music 10:35 tenplus1 http://wiki.minetest.net/Sound_Packs 10:35 twoelk oh, and ambience in testsounds, wonder wether that still works 10:35 Jordach however, you can do /minetest_dir/bin/../builtin/mainmenu 10:36 tenplus1 nup, sounds folder or testsounds folder inside .minetest doesntwork 10:36 tenplus1 still plays old sound 10:37 twoelk strange, my mainmenu tune still works 10:38 tenplus1 files are names ambience_song.1.ogg to .6.ogg and was hoping the silent files would be replaced by the actual music files locally 10:39 twoelk wasn't local overriding the base idea of the sounds folder? 10:39 tenplus1 that's what I was hoping... 10:40 tenplus1 ah ok, it works now 10:40 twoelk you could rename one to main_menu.ogg to see if minetest finds the folder 10:40 tenplus1 I had to delete original audio files from mod itself for it to force load them from sounds folder 10:40 twoelk ah 10:41 tenplus1 but... it stalls minetest while loading in media 10:41 twoelk still loads the local media into the cache? 10:41 tenplus1 nothing in cache 10:42 tenplus1 prolly cause media is 1.2mb on it's won 10:42 tenplus1 *own 10:43 tenplus1 hi calcul0n 10:44 twoelk some time ago I had experimented with market sounds that change as you wander over the market. as mt sort of kept loosing sounds I somewhat lost interest 10:45 tenplus1 I have added a timer to ambience lite mod and when it hits a certain number of seconds (10 mins) it'll play "ambience_music" and select from .1 .2 .3 .4 etc 10:46 tenplus1 I coudl make it the same as minecraft though and have random tune play at sunset, noon or sunrise 10:47 tenplus1 in fact, yeah... that soundsbetter than the timer :DDD 10:47 Shara I sort of dislike sounds at a given time of day unless there is a gameplay related reason to need to knwo the precise time 10:47 Shara know* 10:47 Shara For example, know when night starts/ends could help players on DL, but on most servers it seems needless 10:47 tenplus1 ambience music can be disabled 10:47 twoelk well mining deep could be a reason 10:48 tenplus1 but if I have it play a random song at sunrise and sunset then it's all good :D 10:48 Shara twoelk: But if you are mining, why does knowing the time actually matter? 10:48 Shara It doesn't change the gameplay for you 10:48 twoelk underground activity of mobs on some servers is still related to daytime 10:48 twoelk *time of day 10:49 Shara Hmm, that's not the norm though 10:49 Shara Liek I said, if the server has done something to make it matter, it's a good thing 10:49 twoelk don't tha bad npc change behaviour at night on xanadu? 10:50 tenplus1 spiders are daytime docile, so at night they attack players 10:50 Shara Light level related only I think, so meaningless underground 10:50 tenplus1 certain mobs spawn at night, yes 10:50 Shara But yea, it's something 10:50 Shara I just really want sound effects/music that is more subtle than "plays tune at a set time" :( 10:56 twoelk the minimal use of music and the very unhectic tunes was one of the things that I really liked in mc - might be different today though 10:56 calcul0n hello 10:56 twoelk o/ 10:57 tenplus1 works surprisingly well... plays music at midnight and noon 10:57 tenplus1 wish I could get a hold of RBA's techno music, link doesnt work :( 10:58 twoelk that was a little too exiting for my liking 10:58 * twoelk looks if he still has a copy 10:58 tenplus1 ? 10:59 tenplus1 gonan change it to midnight only :D 11:00 twoelk hm I have zip called mtmusic-rba worth 386mb 11:00 tenplus1 oof 11:00 tenplus1 was the pack he used on original ambiance mod forumn page... 11:02 twoelk technic-ambience with 18mb? 11:02 tenplus1 yeah :DD 11:02 tenplus1 that's the one 11:03 twoelk I'll upload it this afternoon to dropbox or something - remind me again 11:03 tenplus1 thankies :PP 11:04 twoelk maybe vanessa has a version on her media server? 11:04 paramat yes MC's use of music is good, no over-deliberate connection with environment or time 11:04 tenplus1 k, it's changed so that it plays at midnight each day... 11:04 tenplus1 1 song a day :D 11:07 Atorian37 tenplus1, the ambience light does not play any music right? 11:07 tenplus1 nope, sounds only... but... if you have music files available in your local sounds folder then it will :D 11:08 Atorian37 ahh thats the piont, tnx 11:08 Atorian37 *point 11:14 tenplus1 the only annoying part is the loading of the audio file, it stalls game until done 11:20 Atorian37 but it stalls it only for the player login in? 11:20 tenplus1 no, when it loads music file for the first time in the middle of a game it stalls client 11:22 Atorian37 ok but not the server for all players, thats ok 11:22 tenplus1 server is fine, yes 11:23 Atorian37 but the light version is now loaded within 1 minute on the android, thats fine .) 11:23 Atorian37 :) 11:23 tenplus1 sweet :P 11:23 tenplus1 will update shortly to new version, final testing 11:34 twoelk lol, I seem to have frozen my dropbox, should have waited until I'm on a faster connection 11:34 tenplus1 heh 11:35 tenplus1 hithomas 11:35 ThomasMonroe hey ten 11:37 tenplus1 Ambience Redo 0.9 released, can now play music files on server or local client (not included) https://github.com/tenplus1/ambience 11:41 ThomasMonroe thats neat 11:53 tenplus1 wb 12:01 JordachL hm] 12:02 tenplus1 :P 12:02 tenplus1 Ambience Redo 0.9 released, can now play music files on server or local client (not included) https://github.com/tenplus1/ambience 12:02 JordachL dropouts are related to marvell wifi being literally worse than aetheros on ubuntu 12:02 paramat new mapgen added! 12:02 JordachL i like the sound of that 12:03 JordachL tempted to eventually disable the option to use other mapgens in Solar Plains 12:04 tenplus1 w00t, has it layers paramat? 12:05 JordachL links pls 12:10 red-001 oh btw have you see my port of your mod to CSM tenplus1 ? 12:10 tenplus1 which mod ? 12:15 tenplus1 hi NathanS21 12:15 NathanS21 hi tenplus1 12:15 tenplus1 what's new ? :P 12:16 NathanS21 Maybe getting my house today, after waiting for three months 12:16 tenplus1 ooh nice one :) 12:17 tenplus1 is it in a nice area ? 12:17 NathanS21 My closing has been pushed back so many times already. 12:17 NathanS21 A very nice area 12:17 tenplus1 +100 :P 12:17 NathanS21 street on two sides, and then an alley behind 12:17 NathanS21 so I have one neighbor 12:17 tenplus1 incase you need to evade cops :D ehehe 12:17 NathanS21 funeral home across the street to the one side 12:18 NathanS21 and a small business district on the opposite side of my one neighbor, 12:18 NathanS21 very quiet area 12:18 tenplus1 sounds good :D 12:19 NathanS21 hardwood floors, it's really nice 12:19 NathanS21 needs some work, but nothing I shouldn't be able to handle with some time 12:20 tenplus1 *cough* gaming room 12:20 NathanS21 Well that will be my bedroom 12:20 Atorian37 thank you tenplus1, second "update" on the same day... looks good 12:21 paramat onety-one, no layers, it's not by me 12:21 tenplus1 paramat: what kinda mapgen is it ? 12:21 tenplus1 Atorian37: you can copy the music files from the original ambience mod and place them inside your sounds folder locally for them to work still :P 12:22 * tenplus1 is testing RBA's techno mix 12:23 Atorian37 ok, I will chec k that right now... could serve them for players on a webserver for dl maybe... 12:23 tenplus1 yeah :P this way they can choose music to their own tastes 12:23 tenplus1 even minecraft tunes :P ehehe 12:26 tenplus1 hi RobbieF 12:27 Atorian37 tenplus1, what is the default sounds folder on the clientside? (actually using win7) 12:28 tenplus1 the minetest folder you place texture packs inside, make a sounds folder and plop them in there 12:31 paramat onety-one see the PR thread 12:32 tenplus1 am on git and see no new commits for mapgen apart from mgv6 ores 12:32 tenplus1 hi Fixer 12:36 tenplus1 wb celeron 12:38 RobbieF hi tenplus1 12:38 RobbieF catch the show? 12:38 tenplus1 not yet :P was working on mobs and ambience... will check now :DDD 12:39 tenplus1 ep 510 ? 12:42 tenplus1 w00t LXDE :PPP mah fav. 12:43 JordachL gahk 12:43 JordachL i feel like total shit 12:43 tenplus1 whassup dude ? 12:43 JordachL something something i should eT 12:43 JordachL eat 12:44 tenplus1 that extra spring roll was dodgy huh? 12:44 tenplus1 RobbieF: is 510 the show that has the VR stuff innit ? 12:48 Atorian37 tnx tenplus1, "sounds" great ;) 12:48 tenplus1 working ok ? 12:49 Calinou hi 12:49 tenplus1 hi Cal 12:51 Atorian37 checking right now 12:51 tenplus1 will update Xanadu later tonight and test some local music on client for it :P 13:00 red-001 https://stackoverflow.blog/2017/05/23/stack-overflow-helping-one-million-developers-exit-vim/ 13:00 red-001 {off} it seems that ukraine is the worst at exiting VIM 13:00 tenplus1 lololol 13:01 Fixer at least we tried vim 13:01 JordachL LMAO 13:01 JordachL >CSS 13:02 JordachL you're using the wrong shit jquery dev 13:02 JordachL go install brackets.io] 13:02 JordachL then call it an evening :sunglasses: 13:03 JordachL don't you just love stupid webdevs who don't realise that C/++ runs everything 13:03 JordachL when confronted with those tools, >how to exit vim# 13:04 Calinou C/C++ don't quite run everything today 13:04 Calinou they run a lot of system tools and basically all games except Minecraft 13:04 Calinou but... most web back-ends are not C or C++ 13:05 JordachL Calinou, Java is just still C at it's core 13:05 Calinou yes, in fact LWJGL is mostly C 13:05 tenplus1 *shudder* java 13:05 Calinou Minecraft uses LWJGL, so it uses native code indirectly 13:07 tenplus1 wait... I isntalled that for linux as well when testing minecraft... 13:07 tenplus1 hi lisac 13:08 lisac Hey tenplus1 13:08 lisac local store is selling apricots 1kg for ~1/3€ 13:09 lisac I didn't know I could eat this many of them 13:09 tenplus1 ehehehe 13:09 ThomasMonroe lol apricots are good 13:09 ThomasMonroe i dont get alot of those in Texas 13:09 Calinou Minecraft used to ship with a very outdated LWJGL version (from like, 2009) 13:09 Calinou updating it brought you slight performance improvements and bug fixes 13:09 Calinou (since it's unmodified, you could do this) 13:09 ThomasMonroe woah that is old 13:09 Calinou but now it's up-to-date 13:10 * Calinou will upgrade his Debian 8 VM to Debian 9 13:10 Calinou I use it only for testing AppImages anyway, I also have a Fedora 25 one 13:10 * tenplus1 wonders if ubuntu 17.10 is built with debian 9 packages 13:10 Calinou testing on latest Debian + latest Fedora + latest Ubuntu should be a fairly safe bet 13:10 Calinou Ubuntu 17.10 will have more recent software than Debian 9 13:11 Calinou since Ubuntu bases itself on either Testing or Unstable 13:11 tenplus1 ooh, even better :DDD 13:11 JordachL https://open.spotify.com/track/0oSyI05eexswATGWa0qGRR :D 13:11 tenplus1 the Lubuntu 17.10 alpha 1 flash drive I booted from was really smooth, even noveau graphics 13:13 * Calinou edited the sources.list, time to dist-upgrade 13:14 JordachL Calinou, fucking catn.com 404ing me 13:14 tenplus1 what distro you using cal ??? 13:14 tenplus1 wb thomas 13:14 JordachL manjaro 13:14 JordachL :^) 13:14 Calinou tenplus1: Debian in a VM 13:14 Calinou my native OS is still Windows 10 13:14 JordachL ^^^ 13:15 tenplus1 dont they have an update manager to handle dist upgrades ? 13:17 Calinou they do 13:17 Calinou you edit sources.list, then "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" 13:17 tenplus1 heh, so manually then :PPP 13:17 Calinou Ubuntu has "do-release-upgrade", which does that + a few more things 13:17 tenplus1 I moved from 16.10 to 17.04 using: sudo update-manager -d 13:18 Fixer *,..,,,* 13:20 RobbieF tenplus1 no 511 is the Virtual Reality show 13:20 tenplus1 I dont see 511 on the site dude 13:20 tenplus1 510 is the latest 13:20 RobbieF no, 511 was live last night. It goes up on-demand later today. 13:20 RobbieF you'd have had to catch it live. 13:20 RobbieF or wait till it's up on the site :D 13:20 tenplus1 ooh, will get it tonight in that case :DDD 13:21 Calinou tenplus1: yes, you can upgrade either with GUI or CLI in Ubuntu 13:21 Calinou Debian is CLI-only, and they call themselves "ready for the desktop", lol 13:21 Calinou (nobody takes Debian seriously as a desktop distro) 13:21 Calinou (even the developers sometimes, I'd say) 13:21 tenplus1 the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is what I do every few days to install updates normally 13:22 Calinou "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" is a shorter version, which works since Ubuntu 14.04 and Debian 8 13:22 Calinou (read: literally anywhere) 13:22 Calinou apt is nice, but doesn't have autocompletion IIRC 13:22 Calinou but for updates you don't need it 13:22 Calinou it also provides a persistent progress bar and colors the output a bit 13:23 JordachL Calinou, still no support for the surface pro :( 13:24 tenplus1 ?? Ubuntu can be installed on surface pro without issue 13:24 Calinou Linux works like crap on Surface Pros really 13:24 Calinou (coincidence, I think not, whatever) 13:24 JordachL i bought a copy of win 10 pro 13:24 JordachL the license cost the same as the machine, so i got a surface for free lmao 13:24 Calinou tons of things don't work or are buggy 13:24 Calinou >buying Windows 13:24 JordachL it's even got the sticker :D 13:24 Calinou our friend whose name starts with a K and ends with an o does it for you, you know 13:24 RobbieF K tenplus1 - sure hope you enjoy! 13:25 RobbieF was a great show 13:25 RobbieF Calinou are you kidding me? 13:25 tenplus1 :PPP 13:25 RobbieF http://category5.tv/shows/clips_tech/episode/509-debian-stretch-stable/ 13:25 JordachL Calinou, my desktops win 10 pro key was a dreamspark key before the restrictions :DDDDDD 13:26 JordachL so it ended up become a retail key 13:26 JordachL -become 13:26 Calinou RobbieF: no :D 13:26 tenplus1 hrm, volume buttons and webcam have issue, but everything else runs ok 13:26 RobbieF Then you are very, very wrong Calinou. 13:26 JordachL tenplus1, i boot to windows in 2 seconds :D 13:26 RobbieF You're subscribing yourself to a 10 year old view of Debian 13:27 Calinou oh, the desktop thing 13:27 RobbieF Which is described in the video above 13:27 Calinou well, it still has a terrible desktop experience 13:27 Calinou compared to, well Ubuntu or even Fedora 13:27 Calinou (source: I have run Debian testing on my desktop back in 2015) 13:27 Calinou (a bit after Jessie's release) 13:27 Calinou it was stable, nothing really broke 13:28 Calinou but god, the issues that were never fixed... 13:28 Calinou (it was on Xfce) 13:31 JordachL tenplus1, Calinou http://i.imgur.com/PFO01d6.jpg 13:31 Atorian37 tenplus1, there is no local sound playing from the sounds folder, is it called sounds or sound...the folder? 13:31 Calinou isn't it called testsounds? 13:31 Calinou or was it renamed 13:32 tenplus1 sounds 13:32 Calinou JordachL: thanks for using compact taskbar and non-compact icons 13:32 Calinou that's how you're supposed to use it :D 13:32 tenplus1 the same folder you keep textures, worlds and game inside, make 'sounds' folder and place them in there 13:32 Calinou heh, I'm using 13.1 GB of RAM out of 32 GB right now 13:32 nerzhul it is not recommended to do full upgrade on apt. apt-get upgrade + dist-upgrade 13:32 Calinou with three VMs open 13:32 nerzhul Calinou, bad 13:33 Calinou nerzhul: "apt full-upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade") is an alias for "apt-get dist-upgrade" 13:33 nerzhul with KSM on KVM i can run 10 debian with 256Mo ram :D 13:33 Calinou get your facts straight 13:33 Calinou it works exactly the same 13:33 JordachL Calinou, Intel i5 3317U, 4GB DDR3 :D 13:33 nerzhul full-upgrade = dist-upgrade then you don't skip upgrade 13:33 Atorian37 in textures setting i see sounds and in the sounds folder, there are some ogg sound files, but i don't hear any sound while gaming... 13:33 nerzhul you skip* 13:33 Calinou also, my VMs have 2 GB of RAM allocated (if not 4, I don't remember) 13:33 Calinou and two of them have GUIs 13:33 JordachL (Not using the battery optimised iGPU drivers, gib frame rate above a slideshow) 13:33 tenplus1 Jordach https://imgur.com/a/mnUg1 13:33 Calinou so far my upgrade is doing fine... 13:34 JordachL tenplus1, i can actually make the taskbar even more transparent 13:34 Calinou also, Fedora makes the guest additions installation very easy, which is nice 13:34 Calinou (with GNOME) 13:34 JordachL (thanks, classic shell) 13:34 Calinou Debian Xfce is "go figure lol" 13:35 JordachL tenplus1, 17 years ago a 2 second boot time would be literal witchcraft to all IT departments 13:35 Atorian37 for local sound files, is it ok to place the ogg files in the folder /mt dir/textures/sounds/? 13:36 tenplus1 you gotta rename them remember... e.g. "ambience_music.1.ogg" "ambience_music.2.ogg" etc 13:36 tenplus1 those are waht mod looks for 13:36 tenplus1 if it cannot find it on server then it'll look client-side 13:36 Atorian37 ahhh ok 13:37 tenplus1 hi DS 13:37 DS-minetest hi tenplus1 and all others 13:42 tenplus1 o/ 13:46 Fixer JordachL: lies... 17 years ago DOS booted pretty much within seconds 13:46 JordachL Fixer, but a full windows system? 13:47 Fixer win 3.11 was loading quite fast 13:49 Atorian37 77schatz 13:51 tenplus1 windows 10 doesnt really boot that fast though, it uses fast startup which is kinda like hibernation 13:53 tenplus1 https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/ 14:00 shivajiva Hi folks, ten I added your border code to a repo I created, hope that's okay? 14:01 shivajiva tenplus1 ^ 14:03 JordachL *autistic screeching* 14:04 tenplus1 hi shiva :) that's fine 14:04 JordachL goddamn marvell wifi 14:04 shivajiva https://github.com/shivajiva101/border 14:04 * benrob0329 pops in for a few 14:05 tenplus1 hi benrob 14:05 benrob0329 Hi tenplus1 14:05 shivajiva thanks, I added mod storage for persistence of state across server restarts in case it's desired to have it open at times 14:05 tenplus1 good idea... xanadu defaults to closed incase of attack :P 14:06 shivajiva yea, I like it installed but don't always need it refusing new players, just nice to have the option ;) 14:07 benrob0329 Calinou: upgrades are easy with a rolling release distro :PP 14:07 shivajiva if your looking in my repos check player_clean 14:08 tenplus1 Ambience Redo 0.9 was released, can play music from server or locally to save connection time :D 14:09 JordachL https://open.spotify.com/track/1TOLkkkpfEBojytMPAE9Pp 14:09 JordachL LMAO 14:09 shivajiva :D 14:10 JordachL Pistorius Rhapsody 14:10 JordachL i'm dying with laughter 14:11 tenplus1 hi cx384 14:11 cx384 o/ tenplus1 14:16 benrob0329 I think both of my bash.org quotes were rejected :-/ 14:20 JordachL rekt 14:21 benrob0329 #rejected 14:22 tenplus1 run minetest on 8k screen, found a nice snowy biome: http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/2183782/84932194.jpg 14:22 JordachL >EBAUMS 14:22 JordachL WHAT YEAR IS IT 14:26 tenplus1 wb twoelk 14:26 twoelk hi 14:27 * twoelk needs a coffee after 2 hours in a traffic jam 14:27 tenplus1 (_)P 14:29 tenplus1 back laters o/ 14:38 Fixer THE FINEST 14:40 JordachL i turned off wifi power saving 14:40 JordachL meow 14:50 Calinou benrob0329: yes... I think rolling release makes more sense on the desktop overall 14:51 Calinou but unfortunately, neither Ubuntu nor Fedora are fully rolling right now 14:51 Calinou Fedora is somehow half-rolling, many packages aren't frozen in their versions 14:51 Calinou (but not all) 14:51 Calinou Ubuntu only really unfreezes the web browsers and nothing else 15:15 JordachL i think thats fixed the wifi issue plaging the Marvell wifi chipset 15:19 JordachL_ nope# 15:19 JordachL_ reeeeee 15:21 JordachL changed the registry settings o 5ghz 15:22 JordachL (the asus router provides both) 15:45 Calinou just went to see the Tour de France in my street, you can see the Maillot Jaune on the picture (he has a LCL shirt): https://lut.im/uvV2Oj9Biv/YOgSZ74EdX0Y18qA.jpg 15:49 JordachL_ REEEEEEE 15:49 JordachL_ Calinou, is that sponsored sperm shooting past> 15:53 Calinou JordachL_: ? 15:53 JordachL_ think about itr 15:57 Calinou https://letsencrypt.org//2017/07/06/wildcard-certificates-coming-jan-2018.html 16:23 Calinou KaadmY: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/911/037/e65.jpg 16:23 Calinou 1v1 me in quack 16:23 KaadmY Noplz 16:23 KaadmY Seen that like years ago too :P 16:24 Calinou one day we'll have Quack 3 Arena, with The Longest Duck 16:24 Calinou and Quack Champions 17:06 KaadmY Quick suggestion: make wieldhand change FOV while zooming 17:12 DS-minetest change fov on zooming is very good idea but what has the wieldhand to do with it? 17:14 KaadmY DS-minetest: It just looks really wrong 17:16 DS-minetest hm, true, it should be made bigger and positioned more to the right and down 17:16 KaadmY Yeah 17:16 KaadmY That's called a lower FOV.. 17:17 DS-minetest oh 17:18 DS-minetest ah, oops, i confused fov and viewing range 17:18 KaadmY Ah :P 17:18 DS-minetest => viewing range should also be increased on zoom 17:19 KaadmY Maybe 17:20 Calinou Quick suggestion: make wieldhand change FOV while zooming 17:20 Calinou haha, yeah 17:20 Calinou some games don't do that (or didn't) and it looks silly 17:20 KaadmY Calinou: like Minetest >.> 17:22 Calinou reminds me... Quake Live sets the FOV of the player when you spectate a player 17:22 Calinou it looks terrible sometimes :( 17:22 Calinou many people play with fov 90 or 100 17:22 Calinou some with 130 17:22 KaadmY TF2 does something similar 17:22 Calinou and it looks like you can't change t hat 17:22 Calinou yeah, 99% of people play with low FOV in TF2, lol 17:22 KaadmY Spectating people has horribly low FOV 17:22 Calinou mine is on the max setting (in the GUI) 17:22 KaadmY Like 60 or something 17:22 KaadmY Yep, 90 17:22 KaadmY It's a hard max now 17:22 Calinou the default FOV setting is probably for 4:3 17:22 KaadmY Can't go above 90 17:23 Calinou that sucks for 21:9 17:24 Calinou playing some Warsow CA 17:24 Calinou does it run for you? 17:24 KaadmY Yep 17:24 KaadmY Might not have it installed RN, lemme check 17:24 KaadmY Also offtopic; Quakenet #warsow plz 17:25 Calinou heh 17:26 Raven262 You guys play warsow too? 17:26 KaadmY Yap 17:26 Raven262 Nice 17:26 Raven262 I'm only on instagib servers though 17:26 KaadmY Not much, the pickup community's a bit toxic in my experience 17:27 Raven262 Yea there are some rather toxic players there 17:27 Raven262 The game is missing an ignore player function 17:48 Calinou read: Puffdar and his alts 17:48 Calinou that guy is French... too bad 18:42 Fixer JUST ONE MORE YEAR AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY 18:43 red-001 Is this déjà vu? 18:43 red-001 or does Fixer just say that every so often 18:43 Fixer red-001: singing MTG motto 20:17 red-001 {off}https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScRsfRHXPTuEXdNvUcI8DzJIU5iazqlpksWucPF0d8l2ztkkA/viewform?fbzx=4233219096757318294 20:29 Jordach red-001, it fucking cheats 20:29 Jordach using the japanese names instead of the english / US release names 20:34 Dumbeldor red-001: i know only french name xD 21:15 RobbieF Anybody seen this before and know how to quickfix? Runtime error from mod 'technic' in callback LuaABM::trigger(): ...ds/technic/technic/machines/register/battery_box.lua:137: attempt to index upvalue 'fs_helpers' (a nil value) 21:16 RobbieF might be pipeworks.... 21:17 RobbieF yup; was pipeworks. Always misleading when the error says it's technic :D 23:48 Fixer cel was clearly trying to rip off mc beta 1.7.3, so lets make it beta 1.7.3-like :trollface: 23:57 Fixer not exactly 1.7.3 but close enough